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Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration NUMBER 003 2nd SESSION 39th PARLIAMENT Thursday, November 22, 2007 Le jeudi 22 novembre 2007 Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration CANADA [Recorded by Electronic Apparatus] EVIDENCE November 22, 2007 Committee Edited Evidence * Table of Contents * Number 003 (Official Version) Official Report * Table of Contents * Number 003 (Official Version) Témoignages * Table des matières * Numéro 003 (Version officielle) 03 22 11 2007 2007/11/22 15:30:00 House of Commons Comité permanent de la citoyenneté et de l'immigration Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration CIMM Chair Mr. Norman Doyle 39 2 PUBLIC PART ONLY -

PARTIE PUBLIQUE SEULEMENT

(1555) [ English ] The Chair (Mr. Norman Doyle (St. John's East, CPC)) : Order. We are now in public session. Could we have Ms. Faille give us the motion again, please? Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Souris—Moose Mountain, CPC) : Mr. Chair, we've had some discussion and I think we will end up supporting the motion as it is, but reluctantly. I want it on the record that notwithstanding that I think it's unreasonable, given our agenda and the fact that we'll be doing it on December 13, we will support the motion. The Chair : Are you ready for the vote? Hon. Jim Karygiannis (Scarborough—Agincourt, Lib.) : Do you want to read the motion? The Chair : Madam Faille, would you read the motion again, please?

[ Translation ] Ms. Meili Faille (Vaudreuil-Soulanges, BQ) : The motion reads as follows: That official representatives of Citizenship and Immigration Canada appear before the committee on December 13, 2007 and submit, by December 11, 2007, a history of regularization programs, statistics and a detailed report on undocumented workers. [ English ] The Chair : Thank you, Madam Faille. (Motion agreed to) Mr. Ed Komarnicki : Was that in camera? The Chair : That was public. We will now go in camera again. [ Proceedings continue in camera ] [ Public proceedings resume ]

(1605) The Chair : We're no longer in camera. Let's try to get this amendment done. Hon. Jim Karygiannis : Mr. Chair, I would ask that you take us back in camera or I'm going to challenge your ruling. I don't think you can, at the whim of one member, end our in camera proceedings. I don't think so, sir. The Chair : I'll get direction from the clerk here. The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Andrew Chaplin) : On a motion to sit in public or to sit in camera, the question is put without debate. It's put immediately and it's decided by a majority of the committee.

The Chair : Does that apply to going in camera or to public? The Clerk : It applies to both. Whether you're going in or out, it's done with the consent of the committee. The Chair : You're saying this committee has to give consent to move in camera or to resume public proceedings. Hon. Jim Karygiannis : You've got to move us back in camera. Are we in camera right now or not? The Chair : Is there consent to resume public proceedings? Some hon. members: No. The Chair: There's no consent.

Ms. Olivia Chow (Trinity—Spadina, NDP) : I'll withdraw the amendment at this point.

The Chair : Order, please. Do you wish to withdraw the amendment? Ms. Olivia Chow : I'll withdraw it and I'll place it as a notice of motion when we become public, which is totally in order. The Chair : We will proceed in camera. [ Proceedings continue in camera ]