MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OTTAWA, Thursday, September 19, 2024 (111) [English] The Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology met this day at 11:31 a.m., in room B45, Senate of Canada Building, the chair, the Honourable Ratna Omidvar, presiding. Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Bernar d, Brazeau, Burey, Cordy, Cormier, Dasko, Mégie, Moodie, Omidvar, Osler and Seidman (11). Other senators present: The Honourable Senators Boudreau, Cardozo, Kingston and Senior (4). Participating in the meeting: Mayra Perez -Leclerc and Diana Ambrozas, analysts, Library of Parliament.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the Senate on Tuesday, June 18, 2024, the committee continued its study of Bill C-64,

An Act respecting pharmacare. WITNESSES: Council of Canadians: Nikolas Barry-Shaw, Trade and Privatization Campaigner. Montreal Economic Institute: Emmanuelle B. Faubert, Economist (by videoconference); Daniel Dufort, President and Chief Executive Officer (by videoconference). The Conference Board of Canada: Eddy Nason, Director, Health. As individuals: Steven G.

Morgan, Professor, School of Population and Public Health, University of British Columbia (by videoconference); Marc-André Gagnon, Associate Professor, School of Public Policy and Administration, Carleton University; Matthew Herder, Professor of Law and Medicine; Director, Dalhousie Health Justice Institute, Dalhousie University (by videoconference). Steven G. Morgan, Marc-André Gagnon and Matthew Herder each made a statement and answered questions. At 12:28 p.m., the committee suspended. At 12:32 p.m., the committee resumed.

Nikolas Barry -Shaw, Daniel Dufort and Eddy Nason each made a statement and, together with Emmanuelle B. Faubert, answered questions. At 1:23 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the chair. ATTEST: Emily Barrette Clerk of the Committee