MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS OTTAWA, Monday, October 7, 2024 (61) [English] The Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs met this day at 4:03 p.m., in room W120, 1 Wellington St., the chair, the Honourable Tony Dean, presiding. Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Boehm, Cardozo, Carignan, P .C., Dagenais, Dalphond, Dasko, Deacon (Ontario), Dean, Patterson, Richards and Yussuff (11). Other senators present: The Honourable Senators Al Zaibak, McNair and Omidvar (3). Participating in the meeting: Ariel Shapiro, Analyst, Library of Parliament.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, June 20, 2024, the committee continued its consideration of Bill C-20,

An Act establishing the Public Complaints and Review Commission and amending certain Acts and statutory instruments. WITNESSES: National Police Federation: Brian Sauvé, President and Chief Executive Officer. Customs and Immigration Union: Mark Weber, National President (by videoconference). Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami: Natan Obed, President; Elizabeth Zarpa, Legal Counsel. Assembly of First Nations: Andrew Bisson, Chief Executive Officer; Julie McGregor, Legal Counsel. Amnesty International Canada: Julia Sande, Campaigner, Human Rights Law and Policy (by videoconference).

Canadian Civil Liberties Association: Shakir Rahim, Director, Criminal Justice Program (by videoconference); Harini Sivalingam, Director, Equality Program (by videoconference). National Council of Canadian Muslims: Mustafa Farooq, Member, Advisory Committee; Amad Al Qadi, Advocacy Officer. As an individual: Mel Cappe, Distinguished Fellow, Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy. Mel Cappe, Brian Sauvé and Mark Weber each made a statement and answered questions. At 4:58 p.m., the committee suspended. At 5:10 p.m., the committee resumed.

Natan Obed and Andrew Bisson each made a statement, and together with Julie McGregor, answered questions. At 6:13 p.m., the committee suspended. At 6:24 p.m., the committee resumed. Mustafa Farooq, Julia Sande, Shakir Rahim and Harini Sivalingam each made a statement and answered questions. At 7:13 p.m., the committee suspended. At 7:16 p.m., the committee, pursuant to rule 12-16(1)(d), resumed in camera for the consideration of a draft agenda (future business). At 7:32 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the chair. ATTEST: Ericka Paajanen Clerk of the Committee