Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 26 November 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 35)

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Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 26 November 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 35)

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Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

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November 26, 2013

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS Vol. XLVII No. 35

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman): Order, please!

Admit strangers.

Statements by Members

MR. SPEAKER: Today we will have members' statements from the Member for

the District of Lake Melville; the Member for the District of Bellevue; the

Member for the District of Humber Valley; the Member for the District of

Conception Bay East Bell Island; the Member for the District of Placentia

St. Mary's; and the Member for the District of St. Barbe.

The hon. the Member for the District of Lake Melville.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. RUSSELL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to recognize the passing of Eliza Edmunds, my grandmother.

Eliza Edmunds (nee Broomfield) passed peacefully away on September 16, 2013

surrounded by her family after a long battle with Alzheimer's. Born in Big Bay,

Labrador, her and my grandfather moved to Happy Valley as one of the three

founding families of our community, moving to seek a better life for them and

their families.

She was a great influence on my family and the community as a whole for her

work within the church community. She was famous for her laugh, her hospitality,

her cooking, her musical abilities, and her traditional Inuit clothing.

For anyone who met Eliza can confirm that she was the most wonderful and

selfless person you could ever meet, a truly beautiful and strong Labrador woman

who embraced her Inuit heritage, and her faith in God as she raised her family

and became the most caring mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother anyone

could ask for.

I ask all hon. members of this House to join me in recognizing the passing of

Eliza Edmunds, a true woman of Labrador.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Bellevue.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. PEACH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On September 14 and 15, 2013, the New Harbour Youth and Recreation Committee

was very instrumental in bringing the community spirit alive with the first New

Harbour Days.

There were many events that took place, but the highlight during the

celebrations was Violet Newhook. Violet had owned and operated the local takeout

in New Harbour for thirty-plus years, and it was commonly known as Violet's

Takeout.

Violet retired in 1996; however, at the age of eighty-three years, Violet

decided to come out of retirement and volunteer her time to the New Harbour

Youth and Recreation Committee during the New Harbour Days celebrations. On that

day, Violet's Takeout came back to life and was very much alive, bringing back

many memories for everyone.

It was good to see Violet working in uniform, putting the fries in a brown

paper bag and serving people as she had done years ago, and I might add with a

great big smile and a thank you. Violet said it brought back great childhood and

teenage memories for everyone.

I ask all members to join me in thanking Violet Newhook for volunteering her

time to a great cause and helping out with a great fundraiser for New Harbour

Youth and Recreation.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Conception Bay East

Bell Island.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. BRAZIL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I stand today to recognize a sports team in my district who recently made

their community and school extremely proud by winning a gold medal in the Tier 1

division at the Provincial Volley Fest Tournament held in St. John's. I speak of

St. Michael's High School Girls' Volleyball Team of Bell Island.

While Bell Island teams historically have been renowned for success in sports

such as hockey, soccer, and track, the recent surge of success in the sport of

volleyball by local teams is a testament to the support of the community and the

leadership of the coaching staff who commit countless hours to develop the

athletic skills of our young ladies.

I would like to acknowledge Coach Eric Hiscock, an inductee to the Provincial

Volleyball Hall of Fame, and Coach Kathy Mitchell for their continuous support.

Also, the administration of St. Michael's High must be recognized for

outstanding encouragement of the girls' team.

Team members include Breanna Bickford, Tara Bourque, Kayla Ford, Sarah

Madden, Morgan Mitchell, Ashley Neary, Sandra Parsons, Vanessa Penny, and

Chelsea Tremblett.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all members here to join me in congratulating the St.

Michael's High Girls' Volleyball Team on their success.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Humber Valley.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise in this hon. House today to congratulate Mr. Claude Jones of Jackson's

Arm on his recent retirement as Mayor. Claude has spent twenty-five years

serving the people of Jackson's Arm, first as a councillor elected in 1980.

Claude then went on to be elected as both Mayor and Deputy Mayor.

Claude's retirement from the Mayor's bench at age seventy-seven is a

testament to his dedication to the people of Jackson's Arm. He was elected Mayor

of the town thirteen years ago, and also served in many roles as a volunteer

with the town. Claude also served on the White Bay South Development Association

Board and the White Bay Waste Management Committee. His dedication to his

residents was clear in his role as Chair of the Jackson's Arm Hospital

Foundation.

Mr. Speaker, Claude Jones has been a steady hand and a strong voice for the

people of Jackson's Arm. During his years on council, Claude has represented the

needs of rural Newfoundland and Labrador. I am honoured to know such a committed

and dedicated man, and feel privileged to call him a friend.

I ask all members of this House to rise with me in honouring Claude Jones for

his dedication to Jackson's Arm and his unwavering commitment to his friends and

colleagues in this community. As he moves forward in this next

chapter of this

life, may he enjoy his well-deserved retirement.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Placentia St. Mary's.

MR. F. COLLINS: Mr. Speaker, on November 16, I had the pleasure of

attending the Placentia Fire Brigade's Annual Dinner and Dance, an event which I

have attended regularly for the past forty years.

It was a pleasure and a privilege to bring greetings and participate in the

granting of service awards to several firefighters, including a thirty-year

service award to Val Careen and a forty-year service award to Chief Wayne Power.

Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, I did not get the forty-year service award.

I was pleased to see several honourary firefighters and spouses of deceased

firefighters in attendance and recognized for their service. It was also

encouraging, Mr. Speaker, to see that the Brigade has a good core of relatively

young but well trained firefighters. I also want to recognize the firettes who

also offer so much support to the brigade.

Mr. Speaker, Placentia Fire Brigade has a long legacy of outstanding service

to the Placentia region and have every reason to be proud of its

accomplishments.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all colleagues in joining me in thanking the Placentia

Fire Brigade for its tremendous service to the area.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, the Gros Morne Fall Festival and Craft Fair has

grown from a one-day craft fair seven years ago to a full fall festival in 2013,

thanks to a group of dedicated volunteers, the Cow Head Conservation and

Heritage Committee.

This year's first annual event extended over four days and was a great

weekend of craft, culture and music. Workshops took place on moose tufting,

basket weaving, fly tying, painting and fiddle. The craft fair was a full day,

and included demonstrations and a kiddie's corner. Local music was provided by

many musicians, including Daniel Payne.

The weekend featured fine dining, a kitchen party, and nightly entertainment

showcasing the traditions of the Province in an exciting new way.

Events such as the Gros Morne Fall Festival and Craft Fair are economic

generators extending our tourism to the shoulder season, supporting community

development and forging partnerships.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all members in the House to join me in congratulating the

partners, and especially the Cow Head Conservation and Heritage Committee on

this successful event.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Statements by Ministers.

Statements by Ministers

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, I rise in this hon. House today to highlight

Mineral Resources Review, the annual international conference and trade show

that took place from October 31 to November 2 here in St. John's.

Events such as Mineral Resources Review and the Women in Mining forum

continue to grow with the industry. A record 800 delegates attended the

conference and trade show, which is hailed as the main venue for networking and

business development among all sectors of the Province's mining industry. Five

years since the inception of the Women in Mining forum, the session has grown

from fifty to close to 500 participants.

Throughout the week, I had the privilege to speak with industry leaders and

meet with representatives from Mining Industry NL and the Newfoundland and

Labrador Prospectors Association. We discussed the industry's long-term outlook

and how we can work together to capitalize on the momentum currently being felt

throughout all regions of the Province to ensure future growth and success.

I wanted to thank the conference organizers, staff with my department's mines

branch and the local branch of the Canadian Institute of Mining, Metallurgy and

Petroleum. Through their hard work, this year's conference featured a

comprehensive program that included a special session dedicated to Voisey's Bay

in recognition of the twenty year anniversary of its discovery.

Mr. Speaker, Newfoundland and Labrador is an internationally-renowned

exploration destination with significant mineral potential and diverse geology.

The industry is an economic powerhouse with mineral shipments of $3.9 billion in

2013 and employment at a record high of more than 11,500 individuals.

Canadian and overseas investors recognize that this is an exciting time to be

doing business in Newfoundland and Labrador. An estimated $10 billion of

investment in the mining industry may be realized over the next decade with

tremendous development expected in Labrador where the industry is booming.

Mr. Speaker, mineral development is transforming the face of Newfoundland and

Labrador and we are on the cusp of a whole new era for the Province's mining

industry. It is time to seize the opportunity to ensure a strong, sustainable

resource future in the best interest of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for the advance copy of his statement.

I had the privilege actually of attending the Mineral Resources Review

conference. It was a great conference and I look forward to going back again

next year. It is a great opportunity for networking in the Province, I will say.

Mr. Speaker, speaking of the mining industry, the minister did point out

about the $3.9 billion in mineral shipments in 2013. That is certainly good, and

overall it is a significant impact on the finances of our Province. One concern

is that over the next ten years, over the next decade with the anticipated $10

billion in investments in the mining industry, particularly in Lab West, one of

the things that have been glaringly absent right now is the availability of a

transmission line that leads from Muskrat Falls into Lab West.

I ask the minister, I look forward to the discussion in the next few days

because as we all know, it was a significant part of the Muskrat Falls Project,

yet we have not seen any power lines or any transmission going into Lab West.

Initially, what we are seeing, however, is a 25 per cent increase application to

the PUB for residents of Labrador.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I, too, thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement. There is no

doubt that there are good things going on in terms of the growth of mining in

the Province, and especially in Labrador. Congratulations to all those who are

involved.

I caution the minister on a few points, Mr. Speaker. With more mining

development it is really important that we make sure we are doing comprehensive

environmental assessments for the major developments. We want to make sure that

our environment and our communities are a priority, and we really do not want

another Sandy Pond happening because of mining.

As well, in the face of increased international ownership and involvement we

want to make sure that we have our labour standards paid attention to because a

lot of international companies come from countries where they do not have the

same labour standards. So I encourage this government and the minister to look

at anti-scab legislation to protect our workers.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Does the hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North

have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: Leave.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I, too, thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement. I welcome

mining exploration and development. It can certainly change an economy. I would

encourage the minister to look at further commercialization activities with the

marble mine in Roddickton and potential copper and other valuable minerals in

Goose Cove and Croque on the Great Northern Peninsula. There is certainly lots

of opportunity.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Municipal and Intergovernmental

Affairs.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am pleased to rise today in this hon. House to speak about the important

work we are doing to improve municipal infrastructure across Newfoundland and

Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENT: The Department of Municipal and Intergovernmental Affairs has

made tremendous investments in the last few years to improve infrastructure in

our communities. Since 2008, we have invested over $650 million in municipal

capital works projects which has resulted in improved municipal infrastructure

across the Province. When federal and municipal contributions are included the

total investment is in excess of $1 billion.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENT: Mr. Speaker, since April 1 of this year the department has

approved over 112 new municipal infrastructure projects under its Municipal

Capital Works and Multi-Year Capital Works Programs with a provincial

contribution of approximately $31.3 million. Including all projects at various

stages of development, there are currently more than 500 projects underway.

These projects will provide our municipalities with the opportunity to

secure, develop, and improve infrastructure for residents and support the

long-term sustainability of growth and development of communities throughout the

Province. We recognize there is an increased demand for infrastructure and we

have been making progress in addressing infrastructure needs through our

Municipal Capital Works Program.

Mr. Speaker, Budget 2013 included the second year of a two-year Municipal

Capital Works Program. This funding has allowed us to continue to fund projects

all over Newfoundland and Labrador. Projects such as: new potable water

dispensing units in Wabana and Pacquet, road improvements in

Centreville-Wareham-Trinity, and upgrade work for the community centre in Grand

bank, just to name a few.

In addition, Budget 2013 included funding for a one-time $25 million capital

works program for our seven largest municipalities, allocated using a base plus

per capita methodology. The department is currently reviewing plans for future

municipal capital works funding to inform the upcoming Budget progress.

Mr. Speaker, we will continue to work with municipalities and the federal

government to address key infrastructure priorities, and make our communities

better places for children and families.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement, but once again

thank God for polling periods because once again we get another statement here.

That is about the third or fourth one that we heard during the polling period.

Mr. Speaker, there is no doubt there has been money spent in the Province and

a fair number

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JOYCE: I always admitted that, Mr. Speaker, and I always acknowledge

that; but when you have 160 boil orders in the Province, I would not be up

bragging too much. When you put in infrastructure for communities to have water

and sewer but you do not give them the fiscal arrangement, which you promised in

2008 so they can use their water system, it is nothing to brag about, Mr.

Speaker.

Here we look at the $25 million for the larger municipalities, but they

forget that they had to give up the MOGs to get that. The City of Corner, up to

two months, did not have a project that fit under this, Mr. Speaker.

So it is easy to stand up and say it but when you actually look at the facts

when I look at Lark Harbour who were committed Phase II of the water and never

got it. Look at Humber Arm South looking for money. Look at the Town of

Irishtown-Summerside. It is great news; but let's not get up and say everything

is done, because it is not done. It is easy to get up and make statements during

polling periods, but let's look at the reality. There are still 160 with boil

orders across the Province who cannot have safe drinking water in this Province,

Mr. Speaker.

Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for an advanced copy of his statement. Regardless,

municipalities are struggling to keep basic services and infrastructure in

place. Municipalities need staff to maintain the infrastructure and need

sustainable funds to pay staff fair wages.

Government needs a new fiscal arrangement with municipalities. Government

should divert a percentage of the provincial gasoline tax to municipalities.

This could be done quickly. It is a sustainable revenue source that is steadily

growing.

After ten years in power, in March of this year, there were still more than

160 communities under boil water advisories

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS ROGERS: and more than 150 with potentially harmful levels of

trihalomethane in their drinking water. Mr. Speaker, when will this be fixed?

MR. SPEAKER: Does the Member for St. John's North have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: Leave.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thanks to the minister for an advance copy of his statement. These are good

investments, but I would also encourage the government to continue to invest in

Newfoundland and Labrador Housing retrofits in our communities and

neighbourhoods.

For a long time very little was done and there are many units that need work.

Improvements to these dwellings in our communities are investments in the

dwellings themselves, but they are also investments in public assets that

increase the value of private homes in all of our neighbourhoods and

communities.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Oral Questions.

Oral Questions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday, the World Trade Organization upheld a 2010 ruling to ban seal

products from this Province going to Europe. The minister revealed that the

government did not pressure the federal government to include the European ban

on seal products in the CETA talks as their federal counterparts were addressing

this already with the WTO.

I ask the Premier: Was the European ban on seal products not important enough

to address with CETA? Is that why it was dropped from the discussions in 2012?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, our record in terms of the sealing industry is unprecedented

since coming into power and the importance that we have placed on the industry

and supporting it. It is true work with the harvesters. The industry itself is

the most humane in the world in terms of what we have done in terms of working

with the industry.

Our investment in a company like Carino in terms of giving that capital to

allow them to operate, we see the growth of the industry from approximately

60,000 harvested a few years ago to 90,000 last year. We continue to work with

Carino, and continue to work with the industry.

In regard to CETA, it was an issue that was before the protocol of the WTO.

It was in place. The federal government, we encourage them to go back and appeal

that. We believe it is a humane hunt, as does many in the industry believe it.

We are going to continue to fight for the sealing industry in Newfoundland and

Labrador, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The question was more about the CETA negotiations at this point. We had an

opportunity there.

I ask the minister: Why was it that he did not include the seal ban in the

CETA negotiations?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, this issue, as I said, is important to

Newfoundland and Labrador. There were numerous issues, as you can imagine, in

terms of an international trade agreement between Canada and twenty-six states

of the EU; ten provinces, three territories in terms of a whole range of issues

in terms of getting access to that market, in terms of promoting free trade.

As I said, we are very pleased with what we have achieved through CETA. It is

unprecedented in terms of the fishing industry we talked about here in the

Province. Outside of that, we have always supported the sealing industry. We are

going to continue to support it.

We believe the ban is not accurate, it is incorrect. We encourage the federal

government to go forward in appealing it. They are doing that now. We will

continue to support the industry, and we are going to continue to grow our

fishing industry based on CETA.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday, the Minister of Natural Resources again refused to release details

of a multi-million dollar contract that Nalcor awarded without a Request for

Proposal. The minister said that releasing this would be commercially sensitive

and influence the bidding into future processes.

I ask the minister: If that is true, why is it that Nalcor has already

released 150 contracts, the amounts of those 150 contracts that they have

awarded since June?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, I certainly appreciate the member opposite

acknowledging the fact that what Nalcor can reveal and show to the people of the

Province they are more than willing to do so. That takes away that secrecy

argument they are always pushing at us, Mr. Speaker.

The reality is what can be shown to the people of the Province, what can be

made public, Mr. Speaker, it absolutely will be, but there are situations where

there is information that is commercially sensitive and until it is not

commercially sensitive it will not be released.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: I ask the minister. There cannot be any commercially sensitive

information here. This is a forestry contract about brush clearing at the

Muskrat Falls Project. What is it about this project that could be commercially

sensitive that cannot be released? We have released 150 contracts, the amounts.

I ask the minister: Why is it so commercially sensitive that this cannot be

released?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, just to reiterate what I said yesterday, and I

thought I was clear. In this particular case, it is deemed to be commercially

sensitive, Mr. Speaker, because it does impact in terms of brush clearing and

the right of way clearing for the transmission line. There is other work that is

going to be involved, working with other contractors as well in the very same

nature, very same type of work. So, as a result of that, in releasing prices now

it could possibly have an impact on bids, Mr. Speaker, and on prices and working

with contractors.

Ultimately, Mr. Speaker, that will have an impact on the cost of the project.

Nalcor and our government are firmly committed to make sure that this project is

the least cost option for the people of the Province to ensure that we have a

power supply into the future, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister knows that most of those quotes and most of those tenders are

only good for sixty days. What happened in this case is there was an extension

on that.

Mr. Speaker, government has signed a new contract to lease the former

Hamilton Sound until the end of March at $5,787 a day. We have asked the

government to table this contract. They have refused to do that.

I ask the minister: Will you now table that contract so the people of

Newfoundland and Labrador can see the details?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have no problem at all tabling that contract. That is the first time you

asked to have the contract tabled. They did ask for the information that was in

the contract and I would not release that information at the time when the

Member for St. John's South had requested it, because it was not finalized.

Mr. Speaker, I would not release information that is in a contract that is

not finalized, for sensitive reasons, but I have no problem at all tabling that

contract.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, I hope the contract has some details; that is what we are looking for

here, Mr. Speaker. We have also asked for a copy of the financial analysis that

has been done on the Hamilton Sound before it was sold.

Yesterday, the minister said that they analyze every movement. So, I ask the

Premier: Will you release the details of the financial analysis that was

completed on the Hamilton Sound?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I said in the House yesterday, we have a strategy in place to

replace all of the ferries in the Province right now. As those vessels are being

replaced, other vessels will come out of service. That is exactly what happened

with the Hamilton Sound . There were two ferries that went into service

and the Hamilton Sound at the time came out.

Mr. Speaker, I find it a little bit confusing as to what the Opposition Party

want. At one point last week or the week before when we announced the $51

million contract of a new ferry coming in, the next day the Member for

Cartwright L'Anse au Clair was standing up complaining about that. Then, they

are telling us that we were not putting in any service for Newfoundlanders and

Labradorians and their companies. Now they are telling us that we are giving

them business and we should not be.

What do you want: service or no service?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, what we are looking for is typically if you are going to take a piece

of equipment out of service, you would do an analysis on the value of it.

Will you table here in this House the analysis on that vessel that was taken

out of the system?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you very much Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, when we sold the Hamilton Sound we sold it to a company,

and it was up to them what they decided to do with it. They decided to sell it

to another company. That particular company that bought it, the Norcon Marine

Services, decided that they own their own shipyard and saw an opportunity not

only to retain their employees, but at a cost price they could do repairs to a

ship that they could put back in service.

So, while you hear of a price of $1.2 million that was paid out to do repairs

to the Hamilton Sound, in actual fact the cost was about $2 million that

was spent on the Hamilton Sound . That was at a shipyard owner's own cost,

so he could retain his employees and take an opportunity that he has seen fit to

do.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, I ask the minister one more time: Did your strategy include a financial

analysis of the value of that vessel, yes or no?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I told the Opposition yesterday, we have a strategy in place

for replacement of some of the marine vessels in our system right now, and we

feel our strategy is working.

At the time we sold the Hamilton Sound it did not fit into our

feasibility study, nor does it today we think we made the right decision.

Another company saw an opportunity to make a profit on that, and more power to

them if they can do it.

We, as a government, will continue, Mr. Speaker, to deal with Newfoundland

and Labrador companies such as Norcon, bringing economy into the Province and

using their services to give a reliable service to the people of Newfoundland

and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, I would like to see a copy of this strategy. A year ago it did not fit

in, so why does it fit into your strategy now?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, obviously the member of the Opposition is not listening, because

what I said is that our strategy did work a year ago, and two years ago, and it

is still working today.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaking of strategies, residents along the South Coast of Newfoundland have

been promised new ferries by this government. So on January 11, 2011, government

stated that a design contract was awarded to Fleetway Inc. for six new ferries

that would service the South Coast of the Province.

So I ask the minister: What is the status of this design contract with

Fleetway, and when can we expect delivery of those vessels?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, we are in a process right now of hoping to

replace or have a strategy put together to replace the ferry system in

Newfoundland and Labrador. We realize it is an aging fleet, and we will one by

one replace those ferries.

We are not going to put the government back into a deficit as it was in

before and end up with a deficit of another $11 billion. We will take it one at

a time and as we see fit, then we will replace the ferries.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, my question to the minister was what is the status of the design

contract? So will the minister please give us an update on that design contract?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we are still looking at the design contract that we have. If and

when we see that that is the design that we will go with, then we will have no

problem releasing that design contract.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, yesterday the Minister of Health said it is

costing $40 million to put a PET scanner in the Health Sciences Centre. The $40

million she quoted not only covers the cost of the PET scanner and the

cyclotron, but also the renovations required to install the unit. Given the

Corner Brook hospital is still in the design stage, it would be not near that

cost to install a PET scanner.

I ask the minister: What is the real cost of a PET scanner for the Corner

Brook hospital?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we have been really clear on the cost of a PET scanner and that

cost has come to us from very good authority. It is $40 million. We do need a

cyclotron because we do need to be able to produce the isotopes that are

required.

Mr. Speaker, when it comes to taking advice with regard to PET scanners, my

source of advice is the World Health Organization. I am not going to take it

from across the hall there. I am going to take it from the WHO, the World Health

Organization.

Mr. Speaker, what they are telling us is that we need two PET scanners for

every million population. In Newfoundland and Labrador, we are going to have a

PET scanner. We have a 500,000 population. We are meeting all of the standards

set.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: The minister just stated that you need a new cyclotron in

Corner Brook for the isotopes. I ask you a question

MR. SPEAKER: Please direct your comments to the Chair.

MR. JOYCE: I ask the Speaker to ask the minister: Where are the isotopes

coming from that are used here now?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we do not have a PET scanner right now so we do not need the

isotopes. He is referring, I am assuming, to isotopes for nuclear medicine,

which are different all together.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Just for the minister, Mr. Speaker, they are being shipped

from Chalk River. If you can ship them from Chalk River to Newfoundland, you can

bring them from St. John's to Corner Brook. That number is inflated so the

people of Corner Brook and Western Newfoundland cannot have those services.

Mr. Speaker, the PET scanner can be used to diagnose neurological disorders,

cardiovascular disease, infection, and many other conditions and diseases. The

use of PET scanners for the detection and treatment of disease is rapidly

growing.

I ask the minister: Many smaller hospitals in Canada are putting in PET

scanners, why is your government refusing to put a PET scanner in the new

regional hospital for Corner Brook?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, once again I have to correct the misinformation over there. When

we are talking about isotopes for nuclear medicine, we are talking about

something completely different when we are talking about a PET scanner. The only

part he has right is that the isotopes we use for nuclear medicine we are

getting from Chalk River.

Mr. Speaker, in terms of isotopes for PET scanners, they are made and used

within a particular period of time. Transporting them across the Province is not

something that is recommended. Therefore, it is not something that we are

prepared to do because we are not going to endanger the people of the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: I ask the minister: How many PET scanners are in Quebec? How

many cyclotrons are there in Quebec where there is shipment on a daily basis of

these isotopes? On a daily basis they are shipping from PET scanner from the

isotopes, I ask the minister.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, I do not speak for the Province of Quebec. What

I will talk about is the information that the member opposite has given us

before. He told us there are twelve PET scanners in Quebec. Mr. Speaker, if that

is the case then they are short four. They really need sixteen in order to

accommodate the population of Quebec at 8 million, if you go by the WHO

recommendations.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, it was reported in the news yesterday

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, it was reported in the news yesterday that the

Fisheries Minister stated, I as fisheries critic did not seek information with

CETA. The facts are, I wrote letters, I asked in this House, and I issued press

releases.

I ask the minister: How many times and how many ways must the same questions

be asked, or is the real problem that the department changes ministers so often

nobody knows what is going on?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, my reference yesterday was to the fact that

there is significant information available in regard to CETA. It has been

released by the federal government. I think there are four particular documents

on the Web site. I have them here. I will certainly present them in the House

for the hon. member if he needs the information.

One is a Technical

Summary of Final Negotiated Outcomes; one is the opening

new markets; the other is an overview of Opening New Markets in Europe; How CETA

Will Benefit Canada's Key Economic Sectors. They deal with fisheries, and all

industries in Canada are to be affected by the CETA agreement.

I reference the hon. member, I am not aware of him calling me asking for a

briefing on the technical requirements of CETA related to the fisheries in

Newfoundland and Labrador. I am pleased to give him the information and give him

a briefing. Make the call, and we will do what we can for him, Mr. Speaker, to

inform him.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, on January 29, 2013 I wrote the former Minister

of Fisheries on the challenges facing the sealing industry, specifically how the

industry figures in the CETA negotiations. He did not respond.

I ask the current minister: Will he respond to my eight-point letter on the

sealing industry that I sent to his predecessor ten months ago?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I will certainly endeavour to seek out the letter and provide what

information I can to the hon. member.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, twice now I have asked when the new poverty

reduction action plan will be released. Either the minister responsible is

unwilling or unable to answer the question.

I ask the minister: Which is it? Do you just not know enough to get into the

specifics, or do you think it is okay to be unaccountable to the people living

in poverty in this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, in regard to the Poverty Reduction Strategy

that is exactly what it is; it is all about action. We have invested about $148

million on poverty reduction in this Province, annually, over the last four or

five years or so, each and every year.

We invest in various things. As a matter of fact, in my hand here I have a

list of items that are probably about thirteen or fourteen pages long in regard

to those initiatives right across government departments, Justice, Health,

Advanced Education and Skills, and various other departments in exactly that.

Certainly, we will keep investing in poverty in this Province. As a matter of

fact, it has been hailed across this country as being the best strategy that has

been developed to date.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, we have been waiting two years. I am just

asking: When will the plan be released?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Certainly, Mr. Speaker, I will table the plan and the

updates when we have done the proper evaluations.

We will continue to invest in school fees, free textbooks, drug cards, social

services benefits, and on and on and on. We will keep doing that. We do not need

an actual plan because this government has been very cognizant of the most

vulnerable people in this Province and we have invested heavily, I say to the

hon. members.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the government's own consultant, John Noseworthy, reflected

concerns expressed by AES staff that the maximum rental rates for Income Support

do not jive with today's rental market. Noseworthy also recommended government

consider implementing a rental rate structure based on regional market rates,

citing St. John's and Piccadilly as examples of two communities with very

different housing costs.

I ask the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills: Will you consider

implementing a regional rental rate structure as your own consultant

recommended?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, as the hon. member clearly knows, or at least

he should know, that due to the economy that this government has created over

the last number of years, rental rates have certainly increased in the City of

St. John's and Corner Brook and the growth areas of this Province.

I will tell you what we have done. We have invested heavily in affordable

housing in this Province. We have invested right through Newfoundland and

Labrador Housing in the rental supplements and a suite of programs that we have

within Newfoundland and Labrador Housing, as well as Advanced Education and

Skills.

We will continue to do that, I say to the hon. member. We will do whatever we

can as a government to alleviate the added burden to our most vulnerable people

in this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The government did not put any additional money into the Rental Supplement

Program this year and for people who are not living in Newfoundland and Labrador

Housing, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing does not help somebody who is renting

privately.

Mr. Speaker, constituents who are on Income Support in my district are

struggling to maintain shelter, given the restrictive rental rates under the

Income Support Program. The maximum rate of $522 per month will not secure an

apartment in many areas of the Province.

I ask the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills: Do you intend to

increase the rental rate under Income Support to help the most vulnerable keep a

roof over their heads?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, when I reflect, and certainly in my past life,

poverty was always an issue in regard to affordable housing or whatever it may

be; it was always a concern of mine in the pharmacy profession.

We have invested heavily in regard to our most vulnerable people, people on

Income Support. We are seeing less people on Income Support now than we ever did

in our Province. People are moving into meaningful work and meaningful careers,

coming off Income Support because of the opportunities that we are creating.

Certainly, my officials and I will be working diligently in regard to

alleviating any other hardships that a person would have, as a vulnerable person

in this Province, as we have

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The 2011-2012 Annual Report of the Department of Advanced Education and

Skills described the Poverty Reduction Strategy activities and said the strategy

was moving into a next phase, but this year's report says nothing about the next

phase and only mentions the strategy in passing.

I ask the Premier: What is government's plan for the Poverty Reduction

Strategy, if indeed there is one?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, the Poverty Reduction Strategy plan has been

the hallmark of this government. When we took government in 2003, one of the

MS SHEA: We had the highest rate of poverty in Canada.

MR. O'BRIEN: Absolutely, we had one of the highest rates of poverty in

Canada. Now we are seeing people move into meaningful jobs. We are seeing people

who are able to take advantage of the opportunities that have been created in

this Province, Mr. Speaker, and we continue to invest $148 million annually,

each and every year for the last number of years, across a suite of departments.

All was cognizant and all was addressing the issues in regard to poverty in this

Province. We will continue to action that and we will continue to improve on to

it as we move forward.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In Estimates we were told that out of seven positions in the Poverty

Reduction office, the director and two policy positions were vacant, and a

client services officer position was eliminated.

I ask the minister: What is the current status of staffing in the Poverty

Reduction Strategy division?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, poverty is not about the number of staff who

are in a particular office in AES. This is about investing in the most

vulnerable people of our Province and getting the money to the people who need

it the most. That is what this is all about. This is all about affordable

housing. It is about addressing the issues these people face.

It is giving them opportunity, Mr. Speaker, and we create the opportunity. We

move them into skilled labour. We give them opportunity to go back to school. We

give them opportunity to have meaningful lives. That is what the Poverty

Reduction Strategy is all about.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

So they do not need a plan, and now they do not need staff to do anything

because there is no plan.

I am asking the minister to tell this House, Mr. Speaker, how many staff are

currently working in the division of Poverty Reduction Strategy?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: I am sorry to tell the hon. member, but she does not

understand exactly how the Poverty Reduction Strategy works. It works across all

departments by a lot of staff, I say to the hon. member, who are doing some

great, great work on behalf of those vulnerable people, Mr. Speaker. We will

continue to invest in the vulnerable people of this Province. We will continue

to see the impact we are seeing right across this land, as one of the best

poverty reduction strategies ever implemented in Canada.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Since the minister will not tell the public how many, we will just have to go

further to find out that information.

Yesterday the minister stated we have fewer people on Income Support and more

people working. He said it again today, but we still have 35,000 people on

Income Support, 26,000 going to food banks, and 24 per cent of children in

poverty compared to 18 per cent in Canada. Our unemployment is twice the

national average and there are fifteen people for every job compared to six for

every job in Canada.

I ask the minister: With these realities, why is this department downsizing

the Poverty Reduction Strategy?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: This is all about getting the investment to the people who

need it the most, Mr. Speaker. I commend the people in my department, Advanced

Education and Skills, as well as Justice, and Health, who are delivering that

strategy and delivering the programs that help the most vulnerable of our

Province. That is exactly what this government has been doing right from the

get-go in 2004 when we implemented that strategy.

We will continue to do that, I say to the hon. member, because it is not

about people listen, they deliver it well in regard to the public service that

is here in this building and across Newfoundland and Labrador. We will continue

to invest in the people who need it the most.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Lucy is a sixty-six-year-old homeless woman who has been couch surfing for

two years. She has worked all her life and is on a very limited pension. She

applied to Newfoundland and Labrador Housing two years in a row. She has a

doctor's note urging housing to help her. They keep saying there is nothing

available. Lucy is not the only senior in this situation.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: What is he going to do today for seniors

like Lucy who cannot afford basic shelter?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing have invested

heavily right across this Province. As a matter of fact, we have over 1,700

units in St. John's alone. They have invested heavily in regard to the

maintenance of those units as well.

If the hon. member has a particular case, I have not seen it yet. She has not

forwarded it to me, as I know of it. If she wants me to have a look at that case

in particular, I will have a look at it, absolutely, and see can we find a

solution.

I would say here, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing is always seeking

solutions for people who are vulnerable, people who need the service, and they

do a great job in doing so, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: That is two years for Lucy, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, Sarah's husband died five months ago. She lost his pension, hers

is small, and now she cannot afford the rent. Housing says they have nothing to

offer her. She has to move by January and has nowhere to go.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: What is he going to do today to help Sarah

and others like her?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, what we are going to do is continue to invest.

We are going to continue to invest in regard to affordable housing, rental

supplements.

As a matter of fact, something that is usually forgotten is we invested in

new residences for Memorial University that freed up about 500 rooms in the City

of St. John's for affordable housing. That took those people out of that

category, freed up those rentals, gave us more housing available, and that is

what we will continue to do.

We will continue to invest and we will continue to address the issue.

Hopefully, in time, as we grow with our economy, we will be able to bring it

down as low as possible, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The time for Question Period has expired.

Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.

Tabling of Documents.

Notices of Motion.

Notices of Motion

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I move pursuant to Standing Order 11 that this House not adjourn

at 5:30 p.m. today, Tuesday, November 26, 2013.

I further move Motion 3, pursuant to Standing Order 11 that the House not

adjourn 10:00 p.m. today, Tuesday, November 26, 2013.

MR. SPEAKER: Could we defer that to Orders of the Day? This is Notices of

Motion.

MR. KING: I am sorry.

MR. SPEAKER: The notice was given yesterday on those, if you would.

Are there any further notices of motion?

The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: I read the wrong one, sorry.

Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I give notice under Standing Order 11, I shall move the House

not adjourn at 5:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 28, 2013.

Further, I give notice under Standing Order 11 that I shall move the House

not adjourn at 10:00 p.m., Thursday, November 28, 2013.

MR. SPEAKER: Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.

Petitions.

Petitions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

A petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and

Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned humbly

sheweth:

WHEREAS the offshore of the West Coast of the Island of Newfoundland is

recognized as a region containing potentially billions of barrels of oil; and

WHEREAS hydraulic fracturing could be an accepted and effective method of

petroleum discovery and exploration, and it is compatible with the protection of

the natural environment and water sources when executed within the context of a

comprehensive regulatory framework; and

WHEREAS the petroleum exploration sector needs the certainty and confidence

of a stable regulatory regime; and

WHEREAS with that regulatory regime oil discovery and industry development

could provide unprecedented economic opportunity and bring people home to a

currently economically challenged area; and

WHEREAS the undersigned support properly regulated exploration and

development of the oil and gas resource in the Province;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to

introduce a regulatory framework immediately under which hydraulic fracturing

could proceed safely, and move this industry forward in Western Newfoundland.

Mr. Speaker, this region of the Province all up and down the West Coast of

the Province has been shown to have potentially unprecedented oil reserves.

These oil reserves stretch in the north in my district from Bellburns all the

way to the south down to Cape St. George. Recently, a company started to

proceed. They wanted to do horizontal drilling from onshore to offshore and this

would require hydraulic fracturing.

Hydraulic fracturing, Mr. Speaker, has been used for approximately sixty

years without significant incidents in this country. Over the years the process

has been improved, regulated, and upgraded. This government has backed away from

dealing with this issue. This is an issue that requires courage on the part of

the government, courage and insight. Other jurisdictions have proceeded forward.

We have an opportunity here, but it requires leadership from government to

introduce the regulatory regime so this could proceed safely.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS government has a responsibility to ensure that Internet access is

broadly available so people have the right to be able to access the Internet in

order to exercise and enjoy their rights to freedom of expression and opinion

and other fundamental human rights; and

WHEREAS Bide Arm was bypassed under the Broadband for Rural and Northern

Development initiative, which saw high-speed Internet added to thirty-six

communities on the Great Northern Peninsula in 2004; and

WHEREAS nearly a decade later, Bide Arm still remains without broadband

services, despite being amalgamated with the Town of Roddickton; and

WHEREAS residents rely on Internet services for education, business,

communication, and social activity; and

WHEREAS wireless and wired technologies exist to provide broadband service to

rural communities to replace slower dial-up services;

We, the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge the government to

assist providers to ensure Bide Arm is in receipt of broadband Internet service

in Newfoundland and Labrador.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, it would be very interesting to know, of the close to 200

communities throughout Newfoundland and Labrador that do not have access to

broadband Internet, how many of them are municipalities? I have two in my

district: the Town of Goose Cove and the Town of Roddickton-Bide Arm.

Bide Arm was a municipality before it amalgamated. Now the other part of the

town, Roddickton, has the high-speed Internet and Bide Arm does not. It is

creating such a difficulty when you are trying to provide equitable services to

people when it comes to education, when it comes to business opportunity, and

when it comes to communication and social activities to really look at the

development that needs to happen.

There is a significant opportunity to use varying technologies. The Town of

Roddickton is only about eight kilometres away so, even in very archaic form,

copper wire would be able to reach eight kilometres. There are technologies that

can exist. We have more advanced technologies. We could be using wireless as a

form. There are various backhauls through the fibre lines that are there.

I had some very good conversations with the Department of Innovation,

Business and Rural Development and their officials. I look forward to working

with the minister, as I have with the past minister, to see if we can find a

solution to providing broadband Internet to the town that includes Bide Arm at

this point.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a petition. To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS residents of the Southwest Coast must travel the Trans-Canada Highway

between Channel-Port aux Basques and Corner Brook for work, medical,

educational, and social reasons; and

WHEREAS Marine Atlantic ferries dock at Channel-Port aux Basques at various

hours on a daily basis resulting in extremely high volumes of commercial and

residential travellers using this

section of the TCH; and

WHEREAS the world-renowned Wreckhouse area is situate along this

section of

the TCH; and

WHEREAS the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador initiated a

twenty-four-hour snow clearing pilot project in 2008 that excluded the

section

of the Trans-Canada Highway from Channel-Port aux Basques to Stephenville.

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to include

the

section of the TCH from Channel-Port aux Basques to Stephenville in the

twenty-four-hour snow clearing project.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I am very happy to stand here again in this House, for the sixth

day running, and put this petition on the table. Some might question why I do

that, and the reason is I take my orders from the people of Burgeo La Poile.

One of the major concerns that they have is that they are not getting proper

snow clearing after 9:00 at night on this

section of the roadway. It is very

dangerous. I have made it known. There is no reason that this is not done. I

have heard from so many people on it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. A. PARSONS: That is the beauty of petitions is that you can continue

doing it. It is a known, tried and tested parliamentary format for putting this

in, and I am going to continue doing so.

I have sent a request off to the minister's staff to sit down and discuss

this issue. I know that the minister has been very accommodating with any other

requests that I have made. I know he is going to make sure that it is done so we

can discuss this and make sure that the right thing will get done. Until that

time, I will continue putting in these petitions on behalf of the people of

Burgeo La Poile.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS the residents of the Pynn's Brook area are facing dangers in turning

their vehicles safely off the Trans-Canada Highway Route 1 into their own

driveways; and

WHEREAS it is common practice among TCH Route 1 to impose speed reductions

for traffic travelling through communities such as Badger, Deer Lake, Bishop's

Falls, Gander, Clarenville and Whitbourne; and

WHEREAS highway traffic accidents along the stretch of TCH Route 1 through

Pynn's Brook have caused deaths and injuries;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to reduce the maximum speed limit on TCH

Route 1 through the Pynn's Brook area from the present 100 kilometres an hour to

sixty kilometres an hour.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I am very honoured to be able to stand today and present this

petition on behalf of dozens of people from the Pynn's Brook community, people

who have faced what happens because of the dangers of having to turn off the

Trans-Canada Highway. As the petition points out, they have had both deaths and

injuries because of the fact that cars are zooming by at a minimum of 100

kilometres an hour as they are trying to go in and out of their community.

In the House this past couple of days we have passed legislation some we

have passed and some we are still discussing with regard to safety on the

highways. The government is showing itself to be concerned about safety on the

highways; the move-over law, for example, for emergency vehicles and other

vehicles that are described in that piece of legislation; the discussions that

are ongoing right now, we are still discussing the legislation with regard to

speed limits in school zones, with regard to slow- moving traffic, et cetera, to

make our highways safer.

I find it very difficult to understand why government, both the Department of

Justice and the Department of Transportation and Works, would not look at this

petition and realize it makes all the sense in the world to do for Pynn's Brook

what has been done for other communities. To make sure that they can feel safe,

that they know they are not going to have other members of their community

maimed or killed, or anybody else maimed or killed because of the traffic going

through their community.

Mr. Speaker, I just ask the ministers involved to look at this petition with

justice and with concern. A very simple thing, it will not cost any money except

for putting up a new speed limit sign. I really beg them on behalf of the people

to pay attention to this petition.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS the Family Violence Intervention Court provided a comprehensive

approach to domestic violence in a court setting that fully understood and dealt

with the complex issues of domestic violence; and

WHEREAS domestic violence continues to be one of the most serious issues

facing our Province today, and the cost of the impact of domestic violence is

great both economically and in human suffering; and

WHEREAS the Family Violence Intervention Court was welcomed and endorsed by

all aspects of the justice system including the police, the courts, prosecutors,

defence counsel, Child, Youth and Family Services, as well as victims,

offenders, community agencies and women's groups; and

WHEREAS the recidivism rate for offenders going through the court was 10 per

cent compared to 40 per cent for those who did not; and

WHEREAS the budget for the court was only 0.2 per cent of the entire budget

of the Department of Justice;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to reinstate the Family Violence

Intervention Court.

Mr. Speaker, I was not sure whether or not I should be up here doing the

Family Violence Intervention Court petition or a petition that has also been

handed to me repeatedly about Bill 29, because repeatedly I have asked the

minister

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Repeatedly, I have asked the Minister of Justice to table the review of the

Family Violence Intervention Court and that was refused, saying that we have

also asked, Mr. Speaker, for the review of the Family Violence Intervention

Court. We have tried to get access to it through ATIPP and we have been told it

is a Cabinet document and therefore protected as Cabinet secrecy.

Mr. Speaker, no one has given us a viable reason as to why the Family

Violence Intervention Court was cut. A program that was so vital, so crucial, as

part of working against family violence; supporting women and children, victims

of family violence. The review that was done, we know that review was positive;

that the court was totally supported by all stakeholders who were involved in

the justice system around family violence.

We have repeatedly asked for that, and I ask the minister again: Will he

table that review? Because there is no justifiable reason for having cut that

program; a program that was working well, that was fulfilling its mandate as was

reported in the review of the Family Violence Intervention Court.

Mr. Speaker, again, I am not sure whether I should be presenting a petition

on Bill 29 or on the Family Violence Intervention Court, because they are

intersecting at this point. I think that it is crucial, Mr. Speaker. If this

government says it is committed to family violence, they have to show why they

closed this court.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province

of Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS most communities in the District of Cartwright L'Anse au Clair do

not have cellphone coverage; and

WHEREAS residents of Coastal Labrador require cell coverage to ensure safety

and communication abilities; and

WHEREAS the opening of the Trans-Labrador Highway has increased our

dependency on mobile communication;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to work

with the appropriate agencies to provide cellphone coverage along the

Trans-Labrador Highway and to all communities in Coastal Labrador.

As in duty bound your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I spoke to this petition yesterday. I will continue to speak to

it until I see some progress and some action, and at least until we see an

interim plan. As I said yesterday, I did speak with department officials. There

seems to be a plan in place for 2016. We are still only into 2013.

We need an interim plan. We cannot wait. There are twenty communities in my

district, and there are three that have some patchy cell service. We have had

private groups come in and say the cost would not be big to put a tower into the

region. That could go a long way in serving the district.

Mr. Speaker, I want to reiterate the harsh winter conditions that we live

with in our remote communities. What cell coverage would do for the safety of so

many residents, especially our youth, Mr. Speaker, who are travelling on buses,

and at night, for school and sporting events, things like that. With our snow

plows going off the road at 9 o'clock at night, we are talking eight, nine

hours, lives could be lost. Hopefully, that is not the case, Mr. Speaker.

Medical emergencies happening in storms and things like that. Yes, we do have

satellite phones.

I want to say, Mr. Speaker, the Department of Transportation has satellite

phones that you can pick up in each community to help with this in the event of

not having cellphones; however, every time I went to pick up a phone last year,

because I am travelling a lot on the road myself, no phone was available. I did

address this at Combined Councils and talked about how simple it is to make sure

that one store in every community has a stock of satellite phones. There are

people on the road every single day transportation workers who could ensure

that there are, but this problem still exists as well. So we not only do not

have cell coverage, but the backup plan that is in place clearly is not working

either.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland

and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents

of Newfoundland and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS autism spectrum disorder has been estimated to occur in as many as

one in eighty-eight children; and

WHEREAS individualized and intensive early interventions are important for

improving outcomes for children with autism; and

WHEREAS long wait lists are forcing many parents to wait up to two years

before their children receive needed pediatric assessments and diagnostic

services; and

WHEREAS the Intensive Applied Behavioural Analysis Program is not available

for children after Grade 3 while research supports the use of Applied

Behavioural Analysis throughout the lifespan; and

WHEREAS a coordinated multi-agency approach among key government departments

and agencies is needed to ensure that individuals with autism spectrum disorder

are provided with services that will promote independent living; and

WHEREAS a comprehensive Province-wide strategy for autism spectrum disorder

will decrease the lifetime costs of treating and providing services for persons

with autism;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to develop a comprehensive Province-wide

strategy for autism spectrum disorder in consultation with parents, advocates,

educators, health care providers, and experts in the autism community.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this is a petition that people all around the Province have

signed today. We have people from Carbonear, Bristol's Hope, Harbour Grace,

Victoria, all around the Province. There are people from the West Coast on this

one as well, and Paradise. It is an issue that affects families all across

Newfoundland and Labrador.

Members will recall that yesterday I gave notice of a motion with respect to

a comprehensive strategy for autism spectrum disorder. This is something that

families and experts in the field, advocates for individuals with autism

spectrum disorder, have been asking for for a number of years now. Several

Ministers of Health and Community Services ago, I would suggest, this issue

started to come to a head.

We do have ABA now up until the end of Grade 3. I certainly recognize that is

really a latter day thing for Newfoundland and Labrador, but there is lots of

evidence to suggest that is useful later in life. I think the key here is to

bring together all of the expertise among government agencies, departments,

everything from schools to health care providers, government departments and so

on, to bring this strategy

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I remind the member that his time has expired.

MR. KIRBY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Orders of the Day.

Orders of the Day

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I move Motion 2, pursuant to Standing Order 11, that the House

not adjourn 5:30 p.m. today, Tuesday, November 26, 2013.

Further, I move Motion 3, pursuant Standing Order 11, that the House not

adjourn 10:00 p.m. today, Tuesday, November 26, 2013.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded that this House do not

adjourn at 5:30 p.m. Tuesday, November 26, and it has been further moved and

seconded that this House do not adjourn at 10:00 p.m. on Tuesday, November 26.

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Health and Community

Services, that Bill 10,

An Act To Amend The Pharmaceutical Services Act, be now

read a third time.

MR. SPEAKER: It is moved and seconded that the said bill be now read a

third time.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion that Bill 10 be now read

a third time?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend The Pharmaceutical Services Act. (Bill 10)

MR. SPEAKER: This bill is now read a third time and it is ordered that

the bill do pass and its title be as on the Order Paper.

On motion, a bill, "An Act To Amend The Pharmaceutical Services Act", read a

third time, ordered passed and its title be as on the Order Paper. (Bill 10)

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Service Newfoundland and

Labrador, to ask leave to introduce a bill entitled

An Act To Amend The

Insurance Adjusters, Agents And Brokers Act, Bill 21, and that the said bill be

now read the first time.

MR. SPEAKER: It is moved and seconded that the hon. the Minister of

Service NL shall have leave to introduce a bill,

An Act To Amend The Insurance

Adjusters, Agents And Brokers Act, Bill 21, and that the said bill be now read a

first time.

Is it the pleasure of the House that the minister shall have leave to

introduce Bill 21 and that the said bill be now read a first time?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

Motion, the hon. the Minister of Service Newfoundland and Labrador to

introduce a bill, "An Act To Amend The Insurance Adjusters, Agents And Brokers

Act", carried. (Bill 21)

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend The Insurance Adjusters, Agents And

Brokers Act. (Bill 21)

MR. SPEAKER: This bill has now been read a first time.

When shall the bill be read a second time?

MR. KING: On tomorrow.

MR. SPEAKER: On tomorrow.

On motion, Bill 21 read a first time, ordered read a second time on tomorrow.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I call from the Order Paper, Order 4, second reading of a bill,

An Act To Amend The Highway Traffic Act No. 2, Bill 13.

MR. SPEAKER: It is moved and seconded that Bill 13,

An Act To Amend The

Highway Traffic Act No. 2, be now read a second time.

AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible).

MR. SPEAKER: Oh, it is continuing from yesterday.

The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KIRBY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is the second time now when we were getting towards the end of the day

that I think I accidentally tried to close the Legislature instead of ending the

debate. I apologize to the members if anybody was as confused as I was. We

certainly managed to conclude the debate on time. That is good. It is always

good to find ways to co-operate.

I will just have a few more words to say about Bill 13,

An Act to Amend the

Highway Traffic Act No. 2. One of the things that are accomplished here in the

legislation is to limit the number of occupants in a vehicle to the number of

seat belts in a vehicle. That is logical; there is no question about that.

I was a bit surprised to hear from the minister's officials in Transportation

and Works that there was a technicality at present that permits four people to

travel in the back of a vehicle, if you will, where there are only three seat

belts in the vehicle. That will not be a problem any longer because this will

limit the number of passengers to the number of seat belts that are actually in

a vehicle.

It seems like it was not a whole long time ago that seat belt usage was not

really the norm in the Province. I think it is important to bring this change in

to ensure that there are not any loopholes, that people do remain safe.

There was a great tragedy in our Province just recently where a young man

lost his life in a vehicle accident and he was not wearing a seat belt at the

time. His family has been out there publicly, quite courageously I think,

cautioning people in the Province around seat belt usage.

I hope people will heed their call to make sure that whenever you get in a

vehicle you put that seat belt on and remain safe. I think this is an important

issue, and I think recent events shine a light on just how important and vital

this change can be. That was one thing.

Another thing I just wanted to comment on is the issue of people riding on

parts of a vehicle not intended for seating, for example, riding in the back of

pickup trucks. I know the Member for Cape St. Francis gave us sort of humorous

anecdotes from his life when people would customarily ride in the back of a

vehicle. It could be a dozen people jump in the back and go up to the store, the

bank, or what have you.

We certainly do not see a whole lot of that any more, but I was a bit I

grew up on a small farm and when we were doing things like making hay or hauling

kelp for fertilizer, or we were doing various things around, trying to deal with

livestock and those sorts of things, when you are slaughtering large numbers of

animals, there are often times where there was reason to ride in the back of a

pickup truck, and to have a number of people there.

If you were just more or less trying to keep animals, like I said, that have

been slaughtered, or vegetables, or hay, or equipment, there was certainly cause

to ride in the back of a truck, if not only just to secure what it is you are

carrying there. Sometimes, it is really not practical in agriculture to be

strapping everything down tightly, because you are not driving a long distance.

The way it was for my family's farm, and it still is, the place where my

father hauls his kelp from, and the place where he hauls his hay from, and the

place where he hauls a lot of his vegetables from, all require him to travel

over a short portion of road between the communities of Taylor's Bay and Lord's

Cove in order to transport whatever it is he happens to be transporting.

This extends to other things as well not only agriculture, there are still

lots of people out there who transport turf, peat, wood, and so on. I am just

wondering if there are any exemptions to this, maybe only with respect to

agricultural vehicles that are used in agriculture situations, whether the

minister or his officials have thought much about the implications here for

those who are working in agricultural industries, or, as in the case of my

family, working in farming on a relatively small scale. Like I said, sometimes

having to travel in the back of not only a pickup truck, but other sort of farm

vehicles and so on.

So I think it is something that is worth considering. Beyond that, I do not

have any other concerns about this bill on the whole. As I have said earlier, I

am happy to support this because I think these are really positive changes.

It really goes to show that as the Province changes, as vehicles change, as

the nature of our use of vehicles change over time, it is important for us to be

in here in the fall sitting of the Legislature to have an opportunity on the

legislative calendar to bring in these sorts of things and deal with it, outside

of all of the machinations that go on in the House of Assembly after Christmas,

in the spring sitting, where we are very occupied with dealing with issues

related to the Budget and any associated legislation that sort of falls out of

major changes that government decides to proceed with.

I think it is a really good lesson in why we are here and why we need to be

here to do this sort of work in the fall.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER (Verge): I recognize the hon. the Member for St. John's or

for Bonavista North.

MR. CROSS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thought my population just went up.

It certainly is indeed great to stand today, no matter which district one

might be from, to talk about this bill,

An Act to Amend the Highway Traffic Act

No. 2. Again, it is one of these bills where most people who speak are speaking

to support it, but each of us brings a distinct point of view to this as well.

When we were talking to the officials at the department, they talked about

this amendment as closing gaps or harmonizing and clarifying certain sections of

this bill. Believe it or not, there are probably 215 provisions in the act in

total, and they are always needing to be revised.

There are particularly six sections referred to by most of the members when

we talk about this, and most of us have talked about them in the same order. We

talk about the school zones, the slow-moving vehicles that is from sections

110 and 111 the ambulance and fire trucks, emergency vehicles at the stop

signs, in

section 123. There are two sections here from

section 178, subsections

on seatbelts and riding in non-passenger parts of vehicles; and

section 170(1),

the threshold for insurance. There is quite a gamut of ideas or information that

can be addressed in looking at this.

In the old act, we understand that they did have some provisions made for

doubling of the fines for speeding in school zones, but the act was vague in

what they referred to as these zones. Even with some of the thoughts that we

might have in the last couple of days, when you are referring to a school zone

the old

section referred to buildings and grounds around the school buildings

and referred to times between 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. in the old act. The new

time reflects the wider use of school hours and the fact that it is now from

7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

We all realize there are even times outside of these hours that school is

probably in session in some way. I know two of the high schools in my district,

Pearson Academy and Phoenix Academy I know because I spoke to their

administrators gym practices in the morning start at 6:30. The gym is usually

booked for school teams, right up to 9:00 at night. By extending it the amount

of time we did, it takes into account some of the extensions of the hours that

may exist.

The other thing is you might even have a very, very small community. I know

Heritage Academy in Greenspond is a very small school, one of the smallest

populations of any school in the Island probably, or even in Labrador. They

would need more than two signs to designate the school zone because there are

two roads that pass the school, one behind and one in front. You cannot just

look at a couple of signs.

In different situations there may need to be more signage around, or there

might be a lane coming down by the side of the school where you have to

recognize the school zone. Even when we are trying to clarify and tighten this

language up, we still know that there are times when it might not fit all

situations.

The

section that deals with slow-moving vehicles is

section 111. Most of the

ideas that have been talked about

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. CROSS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

A couple of comments are all I would really like to add here and these are

comments from the officials. Most of our hon. members when they spoke, they

spoke about antique motor vehicles receiving an exemption for the slow-moving

act.

One thing is most people who have the antique cars, they are for show. They

are not on the street in the busiest of times and they are mostly for Sunday

drives. It is a recognition in the act that these vehicles cannot maintain

eighty kilometres an hour. They are allowed on the highway in the lane, not

driving on the shoulder but driving in the lane, unless they are really

obstructing traffic. At that point I understand any of our enforcement officers

can approach them and either ask them to move off the road or to ask them to

speed up. If they cannot speed up then they can receive a fine or they will be

recognized but it is an odd sense.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. CROSS: The other peculiarity about the antique cars is that they also

fit in with the seat belt legislation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I would ask all members for their co-operation, please, as the Member for

Bonavista North continues with his speaking time.

The hon. the Member for Bonavista North.

MR. CROSS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The other peculiarity about the antique vehicles is that many of them do not

have seatbelts at all. If we had to strictly go by saying you can only carry

your passengers where you have seatbelts, then some of these vehicles have to

receive an exemption for that part of the act as well. That has been omitted or

no one else has referred to that. So, I am just looking at my notes.

If I jump right quickly ahead again I will go to

section 178(5), riding in a

non-passenger section. The hon. Member for Cape St. Francis referred to it

yesterday about carrying a full ball team in his Chevette. I never, ever thought

I would get the time to mention my uncle Eldon's name here, but when we were

kids we would travel to the swimming hole on Sunday afternoon in the back of the

dump truck. It was the only dump truck in the town and he would take about

twenty to thirty of us in the back of his dump truck. Believe it or not, the

small kids, Mr. Speaker, would get on the shoulders of some of the others who

were standing up in the dump just to see out over. It was really, really safe at

that point.

We talk about the good old days, but there are times that there can be

exemptions and exceptions. When we look at that today, the only exception to

people riding in a non-seat belted

section of a vehicle, or a portion of a

vehicle that is not designed to carry passengers is on private property. The

officials at the department, the questions asked a few days ago when we were

there, it was said that if they are on farm, you are off the regular highway

the highway is anything that is officiated by the police and recognized as a

driveable section, but if you are on a farm and going across the back road of a

farm, you can still actually carry people in the back of your pickup. Again, it

is on private land and it is not on regulated highway.

Again, safety is still an issue there. It certainly suggests that they not do

that, but they still have that ability on private property on a farm.

The other

section that was referred to is when you have your emergency

vehicles approaching a stop sign or a red light. There was no comment or no

reference to that in any legislation before. In fact, the official said the

legislation was quiet on that effect, meaning if there is nothing written then

you just go by your good common sense approach.

Right now, it shall be written in there and the wording says: a driver of an

emergency vehicle shall not proceed past a red light or a stop sign unless the

vehicle yields the intersection to someone who is already in it, or someone who

did not see them coming, or a pedestrian. At that point, then they proceed.

Now, that is a new thing. Apparently, Eastern Health was requiring all of

their drivers to do this all along. Now it is uniform across the Province when

it is put into this legislation.

I intended to stand just to bring up the things that the perspective that I

would have brought to this from my thoughts at the briefings. I do not want to

take up much more time of the Legislature on this because all of these points

have been handled.

I would say at this point, most of the loose ends that can be tied up, are

tied up here, Mr. Speaker, and this is a good piece of legislation that we will

all support, I would hope.

Thank you very much.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I am happy to stand and speak to Bill 13,

An Act to Amend the Highway Traffic

Act No 2.

I specifically want to spend a few minutes speaking about clause 3, "The Act

is amended by adding immediately after

section 110.1 the following:

"110.2

(1) Except where a lower maximum speed limit is prescribed by this

Act, a person shall not drive a vehicle at a speed greater than 50 kilometres an

hour in a school zone.

"

(2) In this section, school zone' means the portion or length of highway

between the two posted signs indicating a school zone.

"(3) Subsection (1) only applies between the hours of 7 a.m. and 5 p.m. on

days when school is regularly held."

Mr. Speaker, I know this is about increasing safety. As we have evolved as a

car and automobile culture we have had to amend our laws. We have had to amend

our regulations to update them to the increasing use of vehicles, the increasing

traffic on our roadways all over the Province, and this is a good thing. It is

important to amend our regulations and our laws to accommodate the demographics

and the modes of transportation in our communities.

I am concerned, and I would think that it would make sense to have our school

zones in effect twenty-four seven, and why not? This is about safety. It is

about the safety of our children. It simply means reducing speeds through

communities where there is a school on a roadway. Simply reducing speed for a

very short period of time. Why would we not do that?

One of the reasons I would push for this, Mr. Speaker, is that in schools we

have extracurricular activities. Perhaps not as many extracurricular activities

as we did have years ago, with that in and of itself is a shame, but we have

drama, we have sports. We have all kinds of extracurricular in schools, and it

would make sense that a school zone be designated as a school zone to cover all

possibilities.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS ROGERS: The other thing is that we see an increasingly mixed use of

schools, that other groups use schools. Hopefully, we will see that increasing

as well in a number of communities, Mr. Speaker, where the schools are used by

groups that are not specifically students or teachers.

We know that people know how they are to act when they come to a stop sign.

People know what the laws and regulations are when they come to a yield sign.

Why would we not extend that same kind of conditioning and automatic response to

a school zone?

I am thinking not even of the road traffic, Mr. Speaker, because in road

traffic drivers have to become used to new regulations and legislation in terms

of directions on how to use a zone, the roads where there are speed zones, where

there are slower areas, but also then for the people in the schools, whether it

be students or parents, so that students and parents, and anybody who uses a

school knows that automatically drivers have to slow down in those zones.

It is a win-win situation, Mr. Speaker. Nobody loses on this. By making our

school zones in effect twenty-four seven, everybody is safer. Then again, not

only are we conditioning drivers, but we are also conditioning people who are

using the schools, again, students and teachers. Students have an expectation.

Parents or drivers coming out of the schools have an expectation that the school

zone is a slower speed zone.

The other thing, is this in effect just during the school year? What about

the summer? In summer we know that schools are used for community activities. In

the summer we also know that schools are used for summer school. So why

complicate it?

One would think that simplifying it and making it automatically a school zone

twenty-four seven imprints on people that they slow down at all times entering a

school zone and throughout the school zone. There is no negative by-effect of

doing this. I believe it would be safer to have a school zone as a constant.

Again, it is about the safety of our children. It is about the safety of

people who use the school zone. Then it takes the ambiguity out there. There is

no need to have ambiguity around this. All it is, is a very short piece of road

that is designated at the school zone. We set the parameters and people have

expectations that they would approach a school zone, no matter what time of year

it is, no matter what time of day or evening it is, that one has to slow down

for that particular piece of road.

I would think, Mr. Speaker, in fact, what this would do is it would enhance

safety for the drivers. It would enhance safety for students. It would enhance

safety for those who are coming in and out of schools, for everybody who is

using a school.

I would like to highly recommend the minister look at this, because what we

are doing let's take the guess work out of it. Let's make it across board.

There are no losers if we do this. The school zone then would be imprinted on

people's driving habits the same way that a yield sign would be or a stop sign

would be. It would be constant and it would take the guess work out of it,

thereby increasing the safety for everyone concerned. I see no valid reason why

not to do this, only the pluses of increasing safety for all concerned.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to thank you for the opportunity to speak on Bill 13,

An Act to

Amend the Highway Traffic Act No. 2.

I am going to take a few minutes of my time this afternoon to mention just a

few matters in regard to this particular bill. First of all, I would like to

respond and mention a matter that was brought up by the hon. member opposite a

few moments ago regarding her suggestion that school zones be twenty-four hours

a day instead of what has been proposed in the legislation as applying between

the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.

I appreciate her suggestion, but I would point out to her that in most all,

probably all school zones there are posted speed signs that go along with school

zone signs. Quite frequently you will see that. You will see school zone signs,

A speed sign is in effect twenty-four hours a day. A school zone sign is

being recommended from 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. They are the normal hours; 7:00

a.m. to 5:00 p.m. is the normal hours during which school is sitting, when

school is in place, in session. That is the normal hours for when that would

take place.

The problem with expanding that beyond those normal school hours is a similar

problem as we have seen, as a government, in construction zones. It is a

frustration. I have heard it many, many times from people in the Province when a

construction zone is set up, a work zone on a highway, either a Transportation

and Works highway or a municipal roadway throughout the Province, and it is set

up after hours when there is no action taking place and no activity, no work

taking place in that construction, or there is no danger that exists.

Now, there are times when a construction zone is erected and left up

overnight to identify, maybe there has been a crosscut in the road and there is

a portion of gravel there, or the asphalt has been cut or is creating a danger,

or some other aspect of that construction zone after hours could create a danger

or concern for motorists, and they still have to reduce their speed in that

construction zone and function as if people were working there.

There are also times when construction zone signs have been left up. When the

workers leave, there is no obstruction; there is no issue in the area. That is

not allowed under the Highway Traffic Act. That is not permitted. In those types

of circumstances, a construction company is required to take them down. For the

very reason that when those types of circumstances happen and a person drives

through a construction zone where they see the signage up and the warning signs

and there is no construction, and they go through it and there is no

construction, and the next day they go through it and there is no construction,

and the next day they come through and they say, ah, there is no construction, I

am just going to keep driving normally because those signs should not be up

there, then it creates a danger, because that may be the very time that

construction is happening.

So, under the act it requires construction zones to be properly marked and

posted on a highway when construction is taking place, or when some work on the

road after hours is still a danger to the motoring public; but if none of that

exists, for the signs to be removed.

I would suggest to the member opposite that school zones should be treated a

similar way. If you expect to see, or could see, or could be a time when

children are coming to or leaving the school between 7:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.,

that is when the school zone should be in effect, during the times that the

children are coming and going from the school, and that is the whole intent of

it. Other than that, there is the opportunity, as in my colleague, the Minister

of Service NL, believes that if not all, pretty much most all of the schools in

the Province have both a school zone sign and a speed sign the speed sign is

in effect twenty-four hours a day anyway.

Mr. Speaker, I also wanted to just mention on reference to slow-moving

vehicles, and it is under the

section for slow-moving vehicles. It indicates

that the act is amended by adding immediately after

Section 111 the following,

and then it refers to a person shall not operate a slow-moving vehicle on a

highway with a speed limit of greater than eighty kilometres an hour, and it

goes on to say that it does not apply to a bicycle, snow clearing equipment and

so on. Also, that the minister may issue permits to people for agricultural

purposes and farming and those types of things as well.

What is important on this particular

section is that we see from time to time

on our highways, ninety kilometre zones, 100 kilometre zones, vehicles that are

not designed or able to reach the speed of eighty kilometres an hour and sustain

the speed of eighty kilometres an hour and operate in a safe manner under those

speeds.

That is what this is getting at here. That is what this legislation is

getting at here, quite commonly seen on the Outer Ring Road. I drive across the

Outer Ring Road every day, most every day, back and forth to work. I use the

Outer Ring Road early mornings. Quite often 6:30, 7:00, 7:30 in the morning, you

will see a piece of slow-moving heavy equipment travelling on the Outer Ring

Road and you will see the same thing in the evening. It is a traffic hazard, Mr.

Speaker. I say it is a traffic hazard; it is a serious hazard.

I have seen times when collisions have occurred with slow-moving vehicles

like that on highway speeds, and we have to assure the safety of the public,

assure the safety of the operator of such vehicles, and also of other vehicles

that are trying to manoeuvre around these slow-moving vehicles in a highway

situation.

I go back to what it says, it is amended immediately after

section 111 and

it would be important to just take a second to look at

section 111, because 111

is still going to exist in the Highway Traffic Act. What

section 111 says now

is, "A driver shall not drive a vehicle at such a slow rate of speed as to

impede or block the normal reasonable movement of traffic then existing on a

highway, except where it is necessary to do so for safe operation".

When a person does that, that particular

section goes on to say that a

traffic officer can order a person to speed up or take your vehicle off the

road. It actually says under paragraph (2) "A traffic officer may order a diver

referred to in subsection (1) to increase his or her rate of speed, pull into

the curb to allow other vehicles to pass or remove the vehicle from the

highway."

Then if a person fails to abide by the orders of a traffic officer, then a

charge could be laid. That currently exists in the Highway Traffic Act. This is

in addition to that.

I know that members opposite yesterday raised a point regarding concern about

antique vehicles or other slow-moving vehicles such as an antique vehicle,

because an antique vehicle is one of the exceptions here. In a case where that

antique vehicle is causing a disruption on traffic, the police still have the

option under

section 111 to order that vehicle off the highway or off the

roadway.

I just wanted to highlight for the members opposite who raised those concerns

yesterday that still does exist in the Highway Traffic Act.

Mr. Speaker, this piece of legislation and I heard members opposite earlier

say that they believed that everyone would be supporting this; I hope they

certainly do. There are a number of other pieces involved with this, one other

that I want to mention before I finish up my time this afternoon. It is a good

piece of legislation, and that is the one regarding increasing the reportable

accident damage threshold to $2,000.

Under the current legislation, under the current Highway Traffic Act, persons

are required to report accidents where there is damage. What this

section is

doing is increasing that liability or increasing that responsibility to report

accidents when there is a damage of $2,000 or greater. That does a couple of

things. One is there are a lot of accidents or collisions that occur now where

you may have $1,200, $1,300, $1,400, $1,500 damage; it can be a very minor

collision. Under that circumstance the person is required to report that to the

police. It is a very time-consuming process for police officers throughout

Newfoundland and Labrador. It is also time consuming for the people involved.

When there is a collision of a lesser amount, $800 or $900, $950 of total

value, people have the right to sort that out between themselves without

reporting it to the police and without reporting it to their insurance company.

What we are doing here is we are raising that threshold to $2,000. The damage

now is greater so a fewer number of those minor accidents will now be reported

to the police.

It is going to reduce the burden on police services in taking reports of

minor collisions. It is going to reduce the burden on the people of Newfoundland

and Labrador who find themselves in circumstances where they have had a minor

collision, no injuries, and a small amount of damage. It also decreases their

responsibility as far as their insurance responsibilities go.

Mr. Speaker, I think this again is a good piece of legislation for the people

of Newfoundland and Labrador. I have received favourable responses on it. I have

received some inquiries from people after the debate yesterday and I was quite

pleased to respond to some of those. It is a good piece of legislation to make

our highways safer and also good for the people who use our highways and the

motoring public, the people of the Province.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I agree a lot with the member opposite, to the Minister of Child, Youth and

Family Services in his statement, especially around the school zones. It is a

great opportunity to speak to the amendments in the Highway Traffic Act because

they are all about enhancing the safety mechanisms.

I will try not to go back and repeat what other members said, but just to

raise a few additional points or concerns that I have based on these amendments.

One in particular with the Schools Act amendment, which I think is great to see,

you are changing the hours now for reducing speed from 7:00 a.m. down previously

from 8:00 a.m. in recognizing that students can be arriving at school before the

8:00 a.m. hour. That is really positive to see that expanded.

One thing I would like to know from the Minister of Service Newfoundland and

Labrador, how are people going to be informed about this particular change? When

drivers' licences are renewed or when plates are renewed? Will there be may be

something sent out in the mail highlighting this particular change so the

general population knows that they would indeed have to slow down an hour

earlier?

That is a good way to inform them and not necessarily have to increase costs

because these mail outs will be happening anyway on a periodic basis, beyond

what we are doing when it comes to how the media, public, and the advisories

that are put out there. That could be a cost-effective way of getting these

changes out there to the general public.

When it comes to looking at prohibiting slow-moving vehicles from being

driven on a highway at a speed limit that would be greater than eighty

kilometres an hour, my district in particular has Route 430, which is the Viking

Trail. It is the primary highway going up the Great Northern Peninsula. In many

cases, sometimes a slow-moving vehicle may have to drive on that main highway

just because there is no alternative. There is no secondary route they could go

to get to their destination.

In it, it does state a notwithstanding clause, "the minister or a person

authorized by him or her may issue a special permit" I would hope, and I

believe it was mentioned in the briefing, there would be a mail out for

commercial operators or those who would be operating this type of heavy

equipment, a backhoe or whatnot, who potentially could be using the highway

would get a letter or something directly in the mail. That would be important

for people to be aware of this amendment and this change, that there is an

option in cases where they would have to be driving on the particular highway.

It does not limit them, but there may be a process of which they have to use it.

Maybe in some situations there is an exception. Maybe the minister could

further explain that. If, indeed, that is the only option for something like

Route 430, that those users would not have to have a special permit because

there is no other alternative to get to their particular destination. I would

like to have that clarified because this may increase red tape. If there is a

fee associated with it, it could slow down progress of getting work done by a

particular construction company, or of that nature if they are doing a

particular job.

There is a limited window of opportunity to get work done, especially in

rural communities. I would not want this legislation to hinder rural economic

development and construction and things like that which would be happening. I do

not think that is the intent of this legislation, but I do want to put my

concerns into the debate here on Bill 13.

Also, one of the other points that was raised in the briefing was around

limiting the number of occupants in a vehicle to the number of seatbelts. I

think it is important to recognize the safety of wearing seatbelts to the

occupants. I was a little surprised that the current legislation did not have

that built into it. I did acknowledge and did make the point that there may be

some situations or circumstances, given the lack of public transportation that

exists in many of our rural communities, for an ability where there may be a

situation where someone could not drive and they may need to have additional

members in a vehicle.

I think it is important to acknowledge, when you make legislation, that this

is meant to be the overall rule. There may be an exception that would happen,

but it would be dealt with on a case-by-case basis and upon the discretion of an

enforcement officer as to how strongly they want to enforce the legislation that

is there. As we see in many cases when people are maybe doing higher than the

prescribed maximum limit, in some situations officers do issue warning tickets

and things like that. There may be a period of which a warning or whatnot,

depending on the situation, would be issued. It is important to have legislation

that does protect and enhance safety of lives of people in Newfoundland and

Labrador.

I am also pleased to see the threshold for reportable accident damage

increased to $2,000, given that in many cases accidents even those that have

no injuries can significantly have over $2,000 of damage. Previously, it was at

$1,000. In most cases you are going to be well over $1,000. If it is a fender

bender, you likely can fall under that. It can reduce the resources that are

needed when it comes to dealing with other more relevant and pressing issues

when it comes to our traffic enforcement and how those resources are being

utilized.

One of the things that is not in this particular amendment to the Highway

Traffic Act, but it is kind of alluded to, is looking at slow-moving traffic. I

think it is something for the government to maybe consider is to also look at

we have highway maximums. What about minimum travelling speeds?

Slow drivers are likely among the most dangerous on our roads. They should be

treated as well as speeders because in many cases slow drivers cause people to

overtake. It can, in many cases, cause people to make very poor decisions and

put lives at risk. We have maximum speeds. In other jurisdictions they also have

minimum speeds. That might be a road we would want to go down and to look at and

pursue as we debate and develop legislation in Newfoundland and Labrador.

I thank the minister for putting this forward, and it is something that I can

support.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

If the Minister of Service NL speaks now he will close the debate.

The hon. the Minister of Service NL.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

These amendments to the Highway Traffic Act are very important pieces of

legislation. It is great to hear the commentary that has happened over the last

couple of day. I would like to thank all of the speakers on both sides of the

House. I think we are all unanimous that this is a good piece of legislation.

There were a few questions that were asked. I am going to get into that in a

few minutes, not in too much detail because we will go into Committee shortly;

that is my understanding. I just want to say it is a solid piece of legislation.

I would like to thank my staff at Service NL who helped draft this legislation,

for putting this together.

A couple of questions, Mr. Speaker, and I have my notes here in front of me.

The school zone questions, it came up a couple of times from members opposite.

There seems to be some confusion there. I would like to make a few

clarifications. Again, it might come up in Committee but I would like to call it

out here now.

We are including a more specific definition of a school zone. It will clearly

define it as a portion of highway between the posted signs that indicate a

school zone. Before, in the old act, it was not clearly defined. That is the

first thing we have done is clearly define in the act exactly what a school zone

is.

Secondly, Mr. Speaker, a new subsection states that expect were a lower speed

limit is prescribed you have to keep that in mind except where a lower speed

limit is prescribed, a person shall not travel at more than fifty kilometres an

hour in a school zone.

I have heard some commentary on the other side that perhaps and we talk

about the hours of operation as well, Mr. Speaker - that this subsection shall

only apply between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. on days when school is

in session.

There is a reality to what is happening here, Mr. Speaker. Basically, what we

are doing here now is putting what pretty much already exists and is happening

out there in practice on our roadways, in our municipalities, in legislation, in

black and white legislation.

The maximum is normally fifty kilometres an hour that is happening right now.

That is posted in school zones, on our roadways, and throughout the Province. In

many municipalities actually the posted speeds are lower than fifty kilometres

an hour and there are many of examples of that, certainly in my district, in the

City of St. John's, in St. John's West.

Again, in putting together this legislation, we looked at what is happening

outside in other rural areas. I have yet to find an example I had my officials

looking into it as of yesterday that we do not have signs that are posted in

rural areas with the maximum speed limits.

This is just again to put it in legislation, to make sure that we are

following our own legislation, Mr. Speaker, and that municipalities are

following legislation as well when they do post the speed limits.

Again, these speed limits that are in place in school zones that are posted

there are in effect twenty-four seven, 365 days a year. To say that we should

make this legislation 365 days a year, Mr. Speaker, we are there. Truly, we are

there. There are not many areas that we do not see this happening and we have

yet to find them, to be honest with you.

Mr. Speaker, I just want to talk about the antique cars and the new

slow-driving legislation. I just want to give a definition of what is in our

regulations of what an antique vehicle really is. An antique vehicle means a

motor vehicle twenty-five years or older, maintained as nearly as possible with

original components, certified by the Newfoundland Antique and Classic Car Club

and owned as a collector's item and operated solely for the use in exhibitions,

club activities, parades and other similar functions and used for occasional

family pleasure, but in no event used for general transportation or business

purposes.

Mr. Speaker, we also know that a lot of antique cars do drive at regular

speeds and there are no issues around them, but this references certainly the

antique cars that are often slower moving, they drive infrequently, and I think

a few of the members over here had mentioned that they are only used in good

weather, in spring and summer, they are much valued by the owners, and they take

them out on a nice sunny day for a bit of motoring, as they used to say back in

days gone by.

It is important to note as well that in

section 111, which still exists in

the act that we have made some amendments to but still exist, and this applies

to antique cars and other vehicles, it must be noted as well, "

(1) A driver

shall not drive a vehicle at such a slow rate of speed as to impede or block the

normal and reasonable movement of traffic then existing on a highway, except

where it is necessary to do so for safe operation or to comply with this Part.

"

(2) A traffic officer may order a driver referred to in subsection (1) to

increase his or her rate of speed, pull into the curb to allow other vehicles to

pass or remove the vehicle from the highway.

"

(3) A person who fails to comply with an order given under subsection (2) is

guilty of an offence."

So, that exists in legislation right now. In practical purposes most people

who are on our roadways, on our highways, and on our streets, if they are in an

antique vehicle that is moving slowly, and I have witnessed it, they will pull

over and let faster moving traffic by. Most of these people are very responsible

car owners. They understand the rules of the road. They love the vehicle that

they are in, and they certainly do not want to be a hindrance to the free flow

of traffic. Those are my experiences. We feel that this is common-sense

legislation, a common-sense amendment, and a common-sense application.

Mr. Speaker, I just quickly want to touch about questions around enforcement.

In Newfoundland and Labrador we have highway enforcement officers, we have weigh

scale inspectors, we have RNC officers, we have RCMP officers, and we have

municipal police. We have more enforcement officers in our Province today than

any time in our history. We have I think it is almost 200 160 more RNC

officers alone in our communities and in our Province versus just a few short

years ago.

Just for a little example I have a few stats to throw out there. In the

Northeast Avalon in 2012 there were 18,000 hazardous moving violations that were

given out just in 2012. Last

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