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July 19, 2018

42nd Parliament, 1st Session

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L006 - Thu 19 Jul 2018 / Jeu 19 jui 2018

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO

ASSEMBLÉE LÉGISLATIVE DE L’ONTARIO

Thursday 19 July 2018 Jeudi 19 juillet 2018

Orders of the Day

Throne speech debate / Débat sur le discours du trône

Members’ expenditures

Introduction of Visitors

Independent members

Oral Questions

Minister’s comments

Curriculum

Minister’s comments

Community safety

Community safety

Refugees

Community safety

Climate change

Plan d’action du gouvernement

School facilities

Government spending and accounting practices

Social assistance

Taxation

Labour dispute

Government spending and accounting practices

Public transit

Taxation

Visitor

Deferred Votes

Throne speech debate

Introduction of Visitors

Members’ Statements

Canal Days

Robert “Bob” Nixon

Decorum in chamber

Canadian Open golf tournament

Automotive industry

Guild Festival Theatre

City of Markham

Jane and Finch community

Frank Edward Graham

Hate crimes

Petitions

Indigenous affairs

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Air quality

Energy policies

Curriculum

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Prévention du tabagisme chez les jeunes

Health care funding

Normes d’emploi

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Visitor

Orders of the Day

Urgent Priorities Act, 2018 / Loi de 2018 portant sur les priorités urgentes

The House met at 0900.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Let us pray.

Prayers.

Orders of the Day

Throne speech debate / Débat sur le discours du trône

Resuming the debate adjourned on July 18, 2018, on the motion for an address in reply to the speech of Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor at the opening of the session.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): It’s my understanding that when this item was last called, the member for Markham–Unionville had the floor, and we’re now doing questions and comments related to his presentation. Is that correct? Yes? Okay.

Questions and comments? The member for Timmins.

Mr. Gilles Bisson: This entire throne speech debate has actually been interesting as we’re winding down to the last parts of the debate. It was obviously a good opportunity for members who just recently were elected to give their inaugural speeches in the House. I have to comment that there are a lot of really interesting people in this place who come with a lifetime of experience and come from experiences that I think lend themselves well to helping to reflect what Ontario is all about in this Legislature.

Everything from what we see when it comes to where people came from—we heard some very touching stories in regard to people who came here, literally, without a suitcase, $50 in their back pocket, ended up in our country, came here as asylum seekers, and lookit, they’re members of provincial Parliament today. I think that speaks to the greatness of our nation and the greatness of our province.

I think we should reflect on that because there’s a debate in this province on the part of some—I’m not necessarily disparaging anybody in this House—but there’s a debate in this House that somehow asylum seekers are a terrible thing and a scourge to our economy and our nation, as we see, especially in the United States when it comes to that type of debate.

But I think those members who stood in this House and talked about where they came from and the fact that their parents did what had to be done when they got here and worked hard, raised their families, sent their kids to school—those people became young adults who eventually ran for office and are now decision-makers in this Legislature. That, I think, just speaks volumes to the reality of what this nation is all about.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Rick Nicholls): Further questions and comments? The member from—hold on—Aurora–Oak Ridges–Richmond Hill.

Mr. Stephen Lecce: Mr. Speaker, I’ve learned to always defer to your judgment and wisdom. However, I must correct the record: King–Vaughan is the name of the constituency, proudly.

I will say, Mr. Speaker, to the honourable member across: I certainly accept the premise that we, as parliamentarians, are strengthened by the diversity of thought, of heritage, of faith, of orientation, of people of different experiences coming to this Legislature with the singular purpose to advance public policy for the people of Ontario.

In that vein, it is the exact reason why we brought forth the speech from the throne that focuses on creating an opportunity society in Ontario. After 15 years of great difficulty imposed by government, imposed on the people of Ontario, we obviously have a mission to unleash the economic potential in every single person and in every single region of this province. That starts with getting our economy on track and reducing taxes for those who work hard and seek to achieve their full potential.

We’re moving forward three initiatives that will ultimately put more money back in the pockets of people and put the students and the next generation of this province first.

We are introducing legislation to finally end the strike at York University after more than 100 days. I say that as a matter of contrast, because there is a singular political party in this Legislature that is putting students first. It is the Progressive Conservative Party under the leadership of our Premier.

We’re also reducing the cost of hydro by 12%. We are taking immediate action. We’ve recalled this Legislature with the purpose to reduce the cost for working families—

Interjection.

Mr. Stephen Lecce: I know that the honourable member, notwithstanding his heckling, agrees that we must reduce hydro rates in Ontario, after 300% by the former Liberal government.

We’re taking action to reduce gasoline prices under the very strong leadership of the Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks, who happens to be my seatmate. He is taking action to reduce costs so that we can reduce gasoline prices for consumers and for small businesses in this province.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Rick Nicholls): I’d like to thank the member from King–Vaughan for that.

Further questions and comments? The member from the Nickel Belt.

M me France Gélinas: Thank you, Speaker. You don’t have any problem with that riding, do you? I thank you for that.

It was an honour and a privilege to listen to the speeches that were made. I know that we’re coming to the 12 hours, where debates will end.

I was pleased to see how many of my colleagues here in the House took the opportunity of their inaugural speech to say a few words in French. This is very much appreciated. French is a recognized language in this Legislative Assembly. Many of us have brought forward the fact that the speech from the throne did not have a single word in French. I think we’ve all learned from that.

The French-language commissioner, an officer of the assembly—all of you should give him a call and get familiar with what the officers of the assembly do. He can explain to you why it was important, and that you have to have French in the speech from the throne. That was a mistake, a mistake that was noticed throughout our province and will probably have some consequences, as complaints have been made that are now being investigated by the French-language commissioner.

The same thing with acknowledging that we are on the territory of First Nations—this is something that we should all learn. When you start a speech, acknowledge. It is part of truth and reconciliation. It’s part of reconciliations to admit that we are on territories from First Nations. Once you get into the habit of doing it, it becomes quite easy. It is noticed and it is appreciated when it’s there. But it is also noticed when it is not there.

So I appreciated—many of you did your inaugural speeches. Congratulations. Welcome and let’s all move together.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Rick Nicholls): Further questions and comments?

Mrs. Gila Martow: During the speech from the throne—the last speaker was actually the new member, the newly elected member, from Markham–Thornhill, who took over—

Interjection: Markham–Unionville.

Mrs. Gila Martow: Markham–Unionville? Sorry. I get mixed up.

He was a trustee before. I met him in York region at an event just about a year ago and I was really impressed with his drive. Right away, we became Facebook friends and I started following him. He really worked hard to get here and I really want to thank him for joining the ranks of the PC caucus. We are a much-expanded caucus, we’re a very vibrant caucus, and I’m really enjoying getting to know some of the new members.

I like to remind myself, especially when we hear things about the speech from the throne, that we are a Commonwealth country. One of the women politicians that I greatly admire—no big surprise, I think—is Margaret Thatcher. She was called the Iron Lady. She said that the ship isn’t turning, that she was staying steady on the course. Well, if we think of Ontario as a ship, it’s time to turn this ship around. We need to be the driving force of the country economically.

Obviously, we accept people from all over the world into our political system and into our economic system. I think it’s really reflected here in the Legislature, and certainly in the PC caucus, how many people have been coming from all over the world to one of the best provinces and one of the best countries.

We can do better, and I think that’s what we’re all here to do. Because we know, for all our constituents and for all the residents of Ontario, that we can do better. We’ve come here in the summer—we weren’t supposed to be sitting—but we’re here to get the ship turned around, to get legislation passed, to get things better, certainly for the students at York University. A lot of them were celebrating this week. A lot of them live in my riding of Thornhill. So we’re happy, and we’re looking for many, many more celebrations.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Rick Nicholls): Now we will turn back to the member from Markham–Unionville for final comments.

Mr. Billy Pang: Thank you for the comments from our fellow members from Timmins, King–Vaughan, Nickel Belt and Thornhill.

I arrived here 18 years ago from Hong Kong, as I mentioned yesterday. Canada and Ontario allowed me to pursue my goals and dreams. I was elected as a school board trustee in 2014, and as the member of provincial Parliament for Markham–Unionville on June 7 of this year.

I stand here today as an example that all Canadians have the same and equal opportunity, and can achieve anything that they set their minds to. I am so humbled and so honoured to be a part of this “promise made, promise kept” government. When I stand at the door of my constituents, they are so delighted that we are going to put more money back into their pockets.

It is my honour to be here today to stand for my constituents and all people from Ontario.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Rick Nicholls): Pursuant to standing order 42(a), there have been 12 hours of debate on the motion for an address in reply to the speech from the throne. I am

now, therefore, required to put the question.

On July 16, 2018, Mr. Downey moved, seconded by Ms. Ghamari, that an humble address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor as follows:

“To the Honourable Elizabeth Dowdeswell, Lieutenant Governor of Ontario:

“We, Her Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of the province of Ontario, now assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious speech Your Honour has been pleased to address to us at the opening of the present session.”

Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? I believe I heard a no.

All those in favour of the motion will please say “aye.”

All those opposed to the motion will please say “nay.”

In my opinion, the ayes have it.

A recorded vote will be required. It will be deferred until after question period today.

Vote deferred.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Rick Nicholls): Orders of the day?

Hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy: No further business, Mr. Speaker.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Rick Nicholls): No further business. This House stands recessed until 10:30.

The House recessed from 0915 to 1030.

Members’ expenditures

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I beg to inform the House that today, laid upon the table, we have the individual members’ expenditures for the fiscal year 2017-18.

Introduction of Visitors

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I’m very pleased to introduce guests in the Speaker’s gallery who are with us today. Would the members please join me in welcoming Norm Sterling—he served as MPP for 34 years; his wife, Joan Sterling; Peter and Betsy Partington—Peter served for many years in this House as well—and their friends Steve and Sally Haliburton.

Welcome to the Ontario Legislature.

Hon. Lisa MacLeod: It’s a delight to have Norm and Joan Sterling in the assembly today.

I’d also like to recognize that my long-suffering husband, Joe Varner, has arrived here from Ottawa. My husband ran for our party in 2003, in Ottawa Centre, a very tough riding for the Conservatives. And he’s joined by Colleen McCleery, who just recently ran for our party in that riding as well.

Welcome.

Ms. Catherine Fife: I’d like to welcome Claudette Porter and her son Michael Porter to the Legislature, good friends from Nova Scotia—really, one of my best friends. Welcome to Queen’s Park, Claudette.

Mr. Jim McDonell: Today I’d like to introduce Ben Hendry, the president of PEGO. Welcome to Queen’s Park.

Ms. Marit Stiles: Today I’d like to welcome and introduce a young volunteer from my riding of Davenport. Her name is Ana Kraljevic. She is also a recent graduate of St. Mary Catholic Academy, where she was awarded the Lieutenant Governor’s award for volunteerism. Welcome, Ana.

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: Today it’s my pleasure to introduce leaders from the Ontario policing community: Bruce Chapman from the Police Association of Ontario and Rob Jamieson from the Ontario Provincial Police Association.

Mr. Faisal Hassan: I would like to welcome to Queen’s Park our returning page Eric’s grandfather Bob Churchill, who is a board member of the Learning Enrichment Foundation; and also Eric’s father, Dirk Albishausen. Welcome to Queen’s Park.

Mr. Deepak Anand: I’m pleased to introduce guests from my riding of Mississauga–Malton: Mr. Rajinder Saini, president and CEO of Parvasi Media Group; Mr. Avinash Pandey, chief operating officer, ABP News Network, India—one of the biggest networks; Mr. Abhishek Kaul, international business head; Mr. Jagwinder Patial, executive editor; Mr. Madan Gopal Dhingra; and Mr. Ashwani Aggarwal.

Ms. Jessica Bell: I’d like to welcome Jed Sears and his father today. Jed Sears was recently awarded the principals’ award, and he graduated from King Edward public school.

Thank you so much for coming, Jed.

Mr. Michael Coteau: I’d like to introduce page Adam Omarali’s family: Zenobia Omarali, James Velos, Phirosa Omarali, and Mina Shukla.

Welcome to the Legislature.

Ms. Sandy Shaw: I, like many of you also, have a long-suffering spouse. I’d like to introduce Ted Hoyle. Thank you for everything that you’ve done for me—he’s in the House. And also my remarkable first, eldest child, Madeline Wilson: Thank you very much for all that you’ve done for me.

Independent members

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I would like to take a few moments now to address the House on the issue of the participation of independent members in the debates of this House on government bills and substantive motions, and their participation in members’ statements.

Standing order 22(

d) states as follows: “Subject to the standing orders and any other order of the House, nothing prevents the Speaker or Chair of the Committee of the Whole House from recognizing an independent member to speak.”

When presented with a request from an independent member to speak in a regular debate which they are not otherwise excluded by standing order from participating in, it falls to the Speaker to determine whether and to what extent the independent member may participate. Generally speaking, the Speaker will want to accommodate such requests, but only to the extent that an independent member’s ability to participate in the House is no more generous over time than that of any other member of the assembly.

Historically and numerically speaking, having an independent member in the House is a relative rarity and, when it has occurred, it has generally been for relatively short periods of time. The present situation is not customary and there is scant precedent to assist me in guiding my decision on this matter.

In the current Parliament, there is one Green Party independent member, who has no party colleagues in the House, and there are seven independent members who are affiliated with the Liberal Party, although it is not, for procedural purposes, a recognized party under the standing orders. Since the outset of this Parliament, the group of seven Liberal members has been presenting itself to me as a cohesive group, seeking to coordinate its parliamentary work as a caucus to the degree that it will be possible for them.

Both the Green and Liberal Party independents have given me requests, in writing, seeking the opportunity to participate in the two items of business that have been or are expected to be subject to debate during this summer sitting, namely, the throne speech debate and Bill 2.

The Liberal group asked to be given a global amount of 50 minutes for them to allot among themselves for the throne speech debate. I have acceded to this request, in the belief that 50 minutes for the seven members was a reasonable amount of time, given that the debate is 720 minutes in duration. On this formula, the Green independent member was allotted seven minutes, which he used.

I now have to decide how to exercise my discretion in permitting the independent members to participate during the other proceedings such as second reading debates on government bills, which historically have represented the lion’s share of overall debate time, and debates on government substantive motions. I believe that making a definitive, proactive decision will be of most benefit to the House, because it will provide clarity and predictability for both the independent members and the rest of the House on an ongoing basis, rather than being done on a case-by-case basis. To do this, I have had to make certain assumptions.

In the case of second reading debates on government bills and debates on substantive government motions, I feel it is reasonable to calculate that the total amount of open debate time available for all members to participate will typically be at least 6.5 hours, or 390 minutes, since that is the point at which the government is able to make use of the procedural tool available to it, under standing order 47, to allocate time to remaining stages of the proceedings.

Among 123 eligible members, 390 minutes represents approximately three minutes each. I am therefore prepared to permit a single one of the seven Liberal independent members to speak for up to 20 minutes during the debate on second reading of any government bill or any substantive government motion. This 20-minute slot has to be used before speaking times reduce to 10 minutes under standing order 24(c); otherwise, only 10 minutes is permitted, as for everyone else.

I will permit the Green independent member to speak for up to three minutes during the debate on second reading debate of any government bill, or on a substantive government motion; however, I will let that member forgo participation in any single debate and save that unused time in a virtual “time bank” to accumulate to larger amounts of time, available to be used in debates in which he wants to make a more substantial contribution. However, the member may not speak for more than 20 minutes in any debate and, as with the Liberal independents, for not more than 10 minutes after standing order 24(

c) has come into effect.

Under this admittedly mathematically blunt approach, independent members will have a reasonable opportunity to meaningfully participate in a way that will be more predictable for the House to anticipate and for the Chair to facilitate, and to a degree that is proportional to their overall representation in the House.

I will leave it to the presiding officer in the chair at the time to decide when to add these independent speaking slots into the normal rotation, albeit with as much relevant consultation among, and notice to, the players as is reasonably possible.

Dealing now with members’ statements, standing order 31(

c) states:

“The Speaker has the discretion to permit an independent member to make a statement for no longer than one and one-half minutes. In exercising his or her discretion, the Speaker shall have regard to the opportunities that members of recognized parties have to make such statements. An independent member shall notify the Speaker of his or her intention to make a statement.”

For the duration of this summer sitting, I will permit one independent member, in turn each day, to make a member’s statement. When the House resumes sitting in the fall sessional period, I will be exercising my discretion with respect to members’ statements under standing order 31(

c) by following a repeating cycle that allows one members’ statement per day for eight consecutive days to be given in turn by each of the independent members if they advise me of their wish to do so, followed by a gap of one sitting week, during which only members of recognized parties may make a members’ statement.

While the standing orders give me the discretion to arrange the participation of independent members in the way I’ve described, the House of course is master of its own proceedings, and I would welcome any recommendations the House might have in this regard if it feels that a different scheme to provide for participation by the independent members would suit it better.

I thank the members for your attention. Thank you very much.

Time for oral questions.

Oral Questions

Minister’s comments

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Speaker, my first question is to the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services. The Conservatives are refusing to say why they slammed the brakes on the new police oversight rules. Yesterday, we asked the minister whether he will allow even more carding to take place instead of doing the right thing and stamping out carding once and for all. In response, he stigmatized an entire community. He used awful stereotypes to describe that community and he made comments that were deeply offensive to many people.

Will the minister apologize to racialized Ontarians for his racist remarks?

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: First off, nobody, not one person on this side of the House, is going to be silenced from speaking out on behalf of or fighting for the families—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Please stop the clock. Restart.

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: Mr. Speaker, the families that are at risk because of gang and gun violence will be looked after and will be listened to.

People are dying every single week. The NDP continues to insult and undermine our men and women in uniform, and they continue to do everything they can to block action to give our police more resources to improve enforcement to protect those communities.

If we do nothing, the number of victims will continue to grow. The NDP want to do nothing because, to them, it’s not about public safety; it’s about public opinion.

We’re the only party in this House prepared to do something about it. We’re going to get those resources to our police—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart.

Supplementary?

Ms. Andrea Horwath: This has nothing to do with policing resources; this has to do with an unacceptable remark made by a minister of the crown in this House. We will challenge him on those remarks and challenge this government on their attitudes when it comes to racialized communities. It is unacceptable for the minister to refuse to answer questions day after day about why they slammed the brakes on the special investigations unit act. It is unacceptable for the minister to stigmatize an entire community using racist stereotypes, and it is unacceptable for the minister to care so little about the discriminatory, unconstitutional and ongoing use of carding in our communities.

How can this minister honestly want to allow more carding on our streets when he should be stamping it out for good?

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: We have been clear from day one. We are going to make sure we are giving our front-line officers the tools they need to do their job. We are committed to fixing Bill 175 and treating our front-line officers with respect. This includes a full and thorough review of the legislation governing police services and police oversight. This will be done by consulting experts, police services and the public.

It’s been stated and it’s been restated. This is our position.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Final supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: All week, this minister has demonstrated an appalling lack of knowledge on the most pressing issues in his portfolio and a lack of respect for the people that he serves. He has failed to answer simple questions about his own decisions. He has offended the people that he works for—the people of Ontario—with racist remarks, and he actually has the ridiculous idea that carding works.

How can this minister think that Ontario needs more carding and more arbitrary police street checks when the people have been saying the exact opposite for many, many years?

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: We have been clear with respect to giving police officers the tools they need to do their work. The police have tools in their hands. And specifically on carding: Carding is not something that we have endorsed.

I’m not a police officer, but I will listen to our front-line officers and ensure that they have the resources they need to do their jobs. I’ll make sure we’re working with communities, listening to the communities to ensure that we’re building trust between our police and the communities that they’re in.

Curriculum

Ms. Andrea Horwath: My next question is for the Deputy Premier. But I just have to say that you don’t build trust with racist slurs.

This government is dragging Ontario backwards—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Come to order.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: This government is dragging Ontario backwards. Scrapping the updated sexual health curriculum and imposing the outdated 1998 curriculum hurts all of our students. It denies kids the crucial information that they need to learn about consent, it’s silent on cyber safety and it fails to ensure that queer youth are fully supported in our schools.

Why is this Deputy Premier, the member for Newmarket–Aurora, putting kids at risk to appease the Premier’s radical social conservative friends?

Hon. Christine Elliott: Thank you, again, for the question on the sex ed curriculum.

What we want to do is listen to parents and protect students. We were very clear about that through the course of the election. We heard from parents that they were concerned about the curriculum that was brought forward by the previous Liberal government. They were concerned about the age that children were being taught about certain subjects. We want to conduct a full public consultation with parents to make sure that we understand what parents are comfortable with—with having their children learning in schools—and to make sure that we update it to deal with all of the issues that they need to learn about.

But it is important to note that we are moving forward, that we will continue in the fall with the 2014 curriculum and that we are starting those consultations in the fall so we can get a new curriculum in place as soon as possible.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Just to be clear for those Ontarians here in the gallery and folks at home: There is no 2014 curriculum. It is the 1998 curriculum, straight up, and this government needs to be honest about that.

The current education minister, in 2015, said this: “Our education critic was very forthcoming in saying the Minister of Education has done a lot of consulting around this.” “A lot of consulting.” That was the minister before the Premier cut his backroom deal with Tanya Granic Allen and Charles McVety. Now she’s ripping up that work and imposing a curriculum on students that ignores consent and LGBTQ communities and families.

Why is this Deputy Premier okay with the Premier making backroom deals with radical, far-right extremists that will only hurt Ontario’s kids?

Hon. Christine Elliott: I would say to the leader of the official opposition that the people that Premier Ford is listening to, and that members of our government are listening to, are the people of Ontario who elected us, 76 members, here.

We all heard the same thing. We’ve heard from parents that they were not given an adequate opportunity to be consulted. Four thousand parents got a link to the survey by the previous government; 1,638 responses were received—0.001% of the elementary school population. That is not a full consultation. We are going to do a thorough, comprehensive, end-to-end consultation that takes into account the views of parents and protects our students in our schools.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

Final supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Well, I guess the voices of queer youth and LGBTQ families are not very important to this government.

At the start of this week, Speaker, the Minister of Education said that she would allow consent to remain in the curriculum this September. Then she put out a statement reversing that comment and saying that the whole curriculum is being scrapped. Someone told the minister to get in line and backtrack fast.

The people of Ontario deserve to know who’s really in the driver’s seat here—whether it’s Charles McVety, Tanya Granic Allen or any other radical extremist who’s owed favours by our Premier. Who is making the decision, behind closed doors, to deny our kids the information that they need?

Hon. Christine Elliott: I would say to the leader of the official opposition that we’ve been very clear from the beginning. Premier Ford has been very clear from the beginning. That’s what he talked about during the election campaign: that we are going to take a look, listen to parents and develop a new sex ed curriculum that is inclusive of everyone. We want to make sure that everyone gets included in the discussion. That’s why we are going to take the time, beginning this fall—we’re not wasting any time with it—to have that full consultation with all parents, all students, to make sure that we take into account the needs of all of the students in our schools.

Minister’s comments

Mr. Kevin Yarde: My question is for the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services. Yesterday I asked whether this government would work to stamp out carding. The question was not answered. The disturbing response instead painted an alarming picture of Jane and Finch as a community in which people have to wear bulletproof vests because it “previously had bullet-ridden people killed in the middle of the night.”

This comment was completely unacceptable. Jane and Finch is a community where families go on walks to Topcliff Park, a community where friends hang out at the Oakdale Community Centre, and Jane and Finch is certainly a community where kids attend Firgrove Public School. Now, these stories have to be told. The Conservative government cannot go around, and should not get away with, spewing racist stereotypes.

My question is—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you. Response?

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: The purpose of my visit to that particular area was because of concerns in the area. I’m very well aware of the area and the multicultural nature of that particular community. But let me be clear about something: The reason I wore a bulletproof vest was because the police of 31 division advised me to wear it.

The Toronto police commented yesterday that a vest is standard procedure on any ride-alongs. The real insult here is not that I wore the vest; it’s the fact that I needed a vest in the first place. It was that little eight-year-old girl that I was concerned about, wondering how she could have a safe community, because it’s not something that, at eight years old, anyone should be worried about. The status quo is falling apart and I think we all know that.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Please start the clock.

Supplementary?

Mr. Kevin Yarde: The NDP are fully aware—my leader, myself and everyone here all agree—that there is a problem out there and something has to be done. We understand that. Carding is not the way to go, Mr. Speaker. The two girls shot in Scarborough was appalling and that’s something that we want to stop as well, but as I mentioned before, carding is not the way to go.

Now, yesterday during the late show, the member from Brampton South, Prabmeet Sarkaria, was adamantly in support of carding. Just a few years ago, Mr. Sarkaria, who was then Ontario vice-president—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I would advise the member that when you’re talking about another MPP, you mention them by their riding name and not by their personal name.

Mr. Kevin Yarde: The member from Brampton South, who was then the Ontario vice-president of the World Sikh Organization of Canada said, “Canada has an international reputation as a champion of human rights. Many young people in Ontario, including Sikhs, have been negatively impacted by carding”—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Time’s up. Response?

Hon. Michael Tibollo: Mr. Speaker, I’m going to state it and I’m going to be very clear. The Premier was very clear about this. We are not bringing back carding.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

Next question.

Community safety

Mr. Amarjot Sandhu: As this is my first time rising in this House, I’d like to take a second and thank my family, friends and all my constituents in Brampton West for their trust in me as their representative.

Congratulations to you, Mr. Speaker, on your new role. It is well deserved.

My question is to the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services. Yesterday, the Leader of the Opposition and her caucus spent the day making petty, partisan, political attacks about the minister. They accused the minister of being racist because he told a story about participating in a ride-along with 31 division.

Now, we know this is a party that doesn’t support police officers. But, Mr. Speaker, can the minister tell us more about the NDP’s shameless reaction?

Hon. Michael Tibollo: First of all, I’d like to welcome and congratulate the member from—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I’ll ask the minister to sit down. So, of course, question period has to raise issues that refer to the government’s policy. I don’t believe that question met that standard.

I think we can give the member a chance to rephrase the question, if he chooses to do so.

Mr. Amarjot Sandhu: What’s your policy on carding? Back to the minister.

Hon. Michael Tibollo: Thank you very much for the question, and once again welcome and congratulations.

We have been clear from the very beginning with respect to where we stand, wanting to have safe communities and to ensure that police have the proper tools to do their jobs. But I would like to make a statement with respect to wearing a police vest and make it very, very clear that this is a standard that happens throughout the province of Ontario.

I’d like to point out for the record that the member, for example, from Niagara Falls wore a bulletproof vest on July 29 with the Niagara regional police. The member for Durham, who spent 12 hours on April 20 of this year with Durham regional police, wore a vest. I was also surprised by the member from Toronto–St. Paul’s, who, on April 14, 2015, tweeted, “Bulletproof vest. Yes!!!yes!!! Yes!!! Safety and security first. We should all have 1 under” our beds.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

Next question. The member from Brampton Centre.

Community safety

Ms. Sara Singh: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Since this is my first time rising, I’d like to congratulate all members on their election, and especially you, on this magnificent post.

My question is to the Acting Premier. My community of Brampton has been suffering under increased violence, as much of the GTA has been. These events are not new but are evidence of a major urban community growing faster than its needs are being met. And while the violence continues, it is clear that racialized, often young Bramptonians have been routinely carded.

Yesterday the Acting Premier said this government would no longer use carding, while the Minister of Community Safety said—

Hon. Lisa MacLeod: Also just said five seconds ago.

Ms. Sara Singh: Excuse me. I’m not done. Let me finish the question. Thank you.

While he doesn’t like the term “carding,” street checks are a tool used by police.

My question to the Acting Premier: Who is right?

Hon. Christine Elliott: Thank you for the question. I believe it has already been answered. Both the minister and I have indicated that carding is not going to come back into play. But we do support our police. We do support the need to give them all the tools they need in order to combat violence, increasing gang violence, in communities like yours, mine, everywhere else in Ontario. We want to make sure that they have the tools that are going to be effective, that will allow them to do their job.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary?

Ms. Sara Singh: Acting Premier, while we understand that there are many ways to address the problem and police are one aspect of addressing many of the root causes of violence in our communities, the violence in my community did not just happen overnight.

We are not against the police. We are here to have constructive dialogue about—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Take your seat for a second.

I would ask the government members to please come to order and allow the member to place her question. I have to be able to hear her.

I return to the member for Brampton Centre.

Ms. Sara Singh: As I was saying, the violence in my community did not just happen overnight. There is evidence of a growing community here that is in great need of services and supports for young people.

We have over 700,000 people and growing and yet only one hospital, thereby not enough services for our young people to access—for example, mental health services—when needed. Brampton needs more schools and anti-violence intervention programs in our schools. We need better and more affordable housing options.

What our young people don’t need is to be further stigmatized and criminalized. The people experiencing violence—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you. Response?

Hon. Christine Elliott: I’m not sure what question I’m supposed to answer here. It’s about young people. It’s about schools. It’s about hospitals. Could you be a bit more specific? Because it’s unclear to me what the response is that you’re looking for.

Refugees

Mr. Parm Gill: My question today is for the Minister of Children, Community and Social Services with responsibility for immigration.

I know that Premier Ford and the minister have stood up strongly to protect Ontario taxpayers from the federal Liberals’ inaction on illegal border crossers. It has put massive strain on the social safety net meant to help vulnerable Ontarians. The results of the federal failed policy are a strained temporary shelter system from Ottawa to Toronto, a strained welfare system, a strained legal aid system.

I also note that the government’s efforts by Prime Minister Trudeau have had a massive strain on our social safety net and caused a federal cabinet shuffle. I draw your attention to the appointment of Bill Blair as minister responsible for border security and organized crime.

My question is about the shift in strategy by Trudeau. Has the Prime Minister acknowledged through his appointment that organized crime is involved in the broken border and tens of thousands of illegal border—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you. Minister of Children, Community and Social Services.

Hon. Lisa MacLeod: I congratulate the member for his election to this place, as well as his distinguished service in the federal Parliament, where he has experience with this issue.

I note that Ontario is a welcoming place. Each year we receive about 40% of all immigrants to Canada. And we are very proud that in 1974, you not only chose Canada but Ontario to settle in this country.

The member also recognized that the federal government has sole jurisdiction of border management and Canada’s refugee and asylum programs. I simply asked the federal government to do a couple of things. One is to pay its bills. They owe Ontario $175 million, $90 million of which is from our social assistance program.

I was heartened to see that the federal government understands that there is a border crisis in the appointment of Bill Blair yesterday. I had the opportunity to speak to Mr. Blair on the weekend, and I know that he is going to take our concerns very seriously. I think it’s a significant win for the province of Ontario that not only have they appointed a minister responsible for border control, but that they are starting to talk to our municipalities about paying their bills. We’re just going to keep doing that.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary.

Mr. Parm Gill: I thank the minister for her answer.

With this failure by the federal government to take action, the city of Toronto and the province of Ontario are now on the hook for massive costs, millions of dollars, Mr. Speaker.

Can the minister tell us the cost to the Ontario taxpayers for this wrong-headed open-border policy by the federal Liberal government and tell this House whether there is any hope that the Trudeau Liberals will ever pay their bills?

Hon. Lisa MacLeod: Mr. Trudeau says budgets balance themselves, and we haven’t seen that, so they’re not very good at the math curriculum over in the federal Liberal Party. I think Kathleen Wynne may have taught them how to do that math.

Let me be perfectly clear: The cost that we’ve incurred in the province of Ontario as a result of this federal program is $3 million that we’ve already given to the Red Cross. Right now we have 800 dormitory beds that we have given to these asylum seekers in making sure that there is a place for them to stay, but we need that space back as of August 9 because we do have students coming back into the classroom.

We do have some costs that have been incurred. I want to reiterate this—it’s very serious. The city of Toronto has upwards of $74 million in shelter costs above and beyond their normal capacity. The city of Ottawa is over and above their normal capacity by about $11 million. In addition to that, my own department, which is responsible for social assistance, requires about $90 million to make us whole.

I can assure you, this side of the House, the Progressive Conservative caucus, will stand up to the Trudeau government—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you very much.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Restart the clock. I recognize the member for Spadina–Fort York.

Community safety

Mr. Chris Glover: Speaker, as it’s the first time I rise in the House, I would like to congratulate you on your election as Speaker, and I would like to thank the people of Spadina–Fort York for the trust they’ve put in me. Thank you.

My question is to the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services. Over the past five years, I have investigated gun violence through research and community consultations. Time and again, community members have unwaveringly shared that the solution to the root causes of gun violence in our communities requires addressing issues like poverty, access to housing, access to education, and mental health. The solution to gun violence is not bulletproof vests. Rather, addressing the roots of gun violence requires community-based and community-informed solutions.

So my question is: Will this government listen to the voices of our communities, who call for addressing the deeper social issues that lead to the increasing level of gun violence in Toronto?

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: Thank you for the question.

Public safety is our primary concern, and we’re committed to examining current community funding programs and their effectiveness in reducing gun violence and gang-related activity in Ontario. We remain committed to working with our policing partners to provide resources and tools that will ensure community safety across the entire province.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary?

Mr. Chris Glover: Up to this point, the response has been about the police. The Conservatives’ response to gun violence, which has involved only the police in Ontario, does more harm than good.

While the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services believes that bulletproof vests will address the root causes of gun violence, community members are calling for real long-term solutions. Band-aid solutions simply do not cut it. Even Mayor John Tory has recognized this and has expanded funding to community programs. So my question is: What initiatives will the Conservative government create to address the roots of violence?

Hon. Michael A. Tibollo: Thank you again for the question.

Mr. Speaker, public safety is our primary concern, especially the protection of innocent children. With the rise in gun violence on our streets, it’s clear that the status quo is failing, and we’re the only party in this House prepared to do something about it.

I’m committed to working with our police officers and services, our communities and everyone in this province to find solutions that will keep our communities safe and protect Ontarians from being the victims of senseless violence.

Climate change

M me Nathalie Des Rosiers: Ma question est pour la vice-première ministre. The elimination of cap-and-trade will have significant impacts on many people, because one of the key aspects of cap-and-trade was to redistribute money from polluters to initiatives that reduce gas emissions and save energy.

Several very important programs were funded by the revenues of cap-and-trade, among them the Social Housing Apartment Improvement Program and the Social Housing Apartment Retrofit Program, which allowed social housing in different municipalities to get money to retrofit their buildings to save energy costs, improve tenants’ comfort and reduce their emissions. I know that in Ottawa, it made a big difference for social housing to be able to replace windows and improve ventilation and heating efficiency.

I want to know what is going to happen to these programs. What is the plan and can it be shared with Ontarians?

Hon. Christine Elliott: Thank you very much to the member for the question.

We were very clear during the election campaign that we were going to scrap the cap-and-trade program and not introduce a carbon tax. That is one of the reasons why people elected us.

This is going to result in saving the average family $285 a year. It is going to help us as we move towards reducing gas prices and so on and reducing prices for Ontario families. We promised that. We know that it’s hard for families to pay their bills these days, to be able to pay their hydro bills and to feed their families.

What we are going to do, though, is that although we’ve scrapped cap-and-trade and we’ve scrapped the funding that came from that, we are going to look at those programs where funding will continue to be necessary and we will continue to fund it, but it won’t be through cap-and-trade and it won’t be through that program.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary.

M me Nathalie Des Rosiers: The elimination of cap-and-trade has also had other consequences. I’d like to just name a few.

In a recent

article by Goodmans LLP, which is a reputable business law firm for more than 30 years, it says the following: “The cancellation by Premier-designate Ford of the Ontario cap-and-trade program did not comply with the withdrawal procedure under Ontario’s” Western Climate Initiative “agreement with Quebec and California, which specifies that a ‘party that intends to withdraw’” must “‘give 12 months’ notice....’”

It goes on to say, “The province of Ontario’s abrupt withdrawal resulted in the immediate cessation of the trading of allowances with Ontario entities.” The

article continues that the cancellation will set back the Ontario clean-tech industry.

So there are reputational risks to the province of Ontario to behave in such a cavalier way and not to respect this international agreement. This is particularly worrisome in the context of a period of international trade uncertainty.

My question is: Did the government of Ontario do an economic analysis of the cost of this abrupt cancellation of cap-and-trade?

Hon. Christine Elliott: We have considered all of the arguments, but we are listening to the people of Ontario. The people of Ontario cannot bear the cost of this cap-and-trade program, nor of a carbon tax. We have listened to them. We got elected on a promise. Promise made, promise kept.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

Next question.

Plan d’action du gouvernement

M. Jeremy Roberts: Ma question s’adresse à la procureure générale et ministre déléguée aux Affaires francophones. Dans ma circonscription d’Ottawa-Ouest–Nepean, je représente l’une des régions avec le plus de Franco-Ontariens de toute la province. Mes électeurs sont extrêmement fiers de leurs racines, qui remontent à plus de 400 ans, et célèbrent le fait d’être membres d’une communauté de plus de 600 000 personnes.

L’honorable procureure générale peut-elle informer les Franco-Ontariens de ma circonscription d’Ottawa-Ouest–Nepean et de toute la province de ce que leur gouvernement fera exactement pour eux au cours des quatre prochaines années?

L’hon. Caroline Mulroney: J’aimerais remercier le député de sa question et le féliciter pour son élection à

titre de représentant de la circonscription d’Ottawa-Ouest–Nepean.

Ce gouvernement est un gouvernement pour la population de l’Ontario, pour tous les Ontariens et les Ontariennes. Le discours du trône a mis en lumière un bon nombre des engagements que notre gouvernement entend respecter au cours de son mandat pour le bénéfice de tous les Ontariens et Ontariennes. Ce sont des choses qui ont un impact positif pour tous partout dans la province, des rives des Grand Lacs à la baie d’Hudson au nord et à Ottawa et Cornwall à l’est.

Notre gouvernement réduira les factures d’électricité, réduira le prix de l’essence, offrira un allègement fiscal aux entreprises et aux familles, abandonnera le système de plafonnement et d’échange et s’opposera au système fédéral de tarification du carbone. On ramènera des emplois à l’Ontario, et nous allons guérir notre système de santé en difficulté.

Notre gouvernement travaille d’arrache-pied pour assurer la prospérité des Ontariens—

Le Président (L’hon. Ted Arnott): Merci beaucoup. Supplementary?

M. Jeremy Roberts: Monsieur le Président, par votre entremise, j’aimerais remercier l’honorable procureure générale et la féliciter pour son élection par les électeurs de York–Simcoe. Je sais que l’honorable procureure générale représentera l’identité des Franco-Ontariens au plus haut degré et sera attentive aux affaires concernant les francophones de cette province.

Monsieur le Président, l’honorable procureure générale pourrait-elle faire part à la Chambre de certaines choses que le gouvernement fera pour représenter les Franco-Ontariennes et les Franco-Ontariens?

L’hon. Caroline Mulroney: En tant qu’Ontarienne et Canadienne qui parle les deux langues officielles, c’est un honneur pour moi de servir comme ministre déléguée aux Affaires francophones.

Notre gouvernement est pleinement engagé à servir la population francophone et à veiller à ce que les voix des Franco-Ontariens soient entendues. Notre gouvernement reconnaît l’apport culturel de la population francophone et est déterminé à appuyer le mandat important de l’Office des affaires francophones. Nous sommes engagés à faire en sorte que les Franco-Ontariens et Franco-Ontariennes aient accès aux soutiens et aux services gouvernementaux dont ils ont besoin dans une langue qu’ils connaissent et avec laquelle ils se sentent à l’aise.

Le Président (L’hon. Ted Arnott): Merci beaucoup. Next question?

School facilities

Ms. Jessica Bell: My question is for the Minister of Education.

I’d like to tell everyone about a very special student from my riding, Principal’s Award winner Jed Sears. Jed attends King Edward public school, where the repair backlog is $8.9 million. In his own words: “King Edward has washrooms that are closed because they can’t afford to fix the bathrooms. There are stalls that have no toilet paper or ... soap for days. King Edward ... has problems with mice.”

Jed also says the thermometer in his classroom reaches occasionally over 30 degrees. He says his classmates have had to miss school days, and he has found that his learning and his test performance have been dramatically impacted by the extreme heat.

When will students like Jed get answers from his government about their plan to fix Ontario’s schools?

Hon. Lisa M. Thompson: To Jed and all of his classmates, I say that I appreciate their frustrations because over the last 15 years, the previous Liberal government has allowed schools across this province to crumble and actually deteriorate in front of students’ eyes, and it’s unacceptable.

I have to also share with you, and clarify, that the GGRF slush fund, if you will, would not do anything towards the renovations and the fixes that Jed was describing in his message to the member opposite.

To Jed and all the students across Ontario: We’re working very hard with our ministry officials, as well as our school boards, to make sure that we can bring forward renovations in a timely and cost-effective manner.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary?

Ms. Jessica Bell: To the Minister of Education again: In a hurried response to public outrage over the $100-million cut to school funding, the Minister of Education says the government will fix and address the issues facing our crumbling schools. The people of Ontario have made it clear: The issue is repair funding. If this government expects teachers and parents to trust them, then earn it.

When will the minister confirm that this government will provide the $100 million for repair funding to replace the amount they gutted from schools last week?

Hon. Lisa M. Thompson: The people of Ontario were very clear that they wanted our government, the PC government of Ontario under the leadership of Premier Doug Ford, to fix the issue at hand, and that was the previous government having their hand in their pocket every time they turned around—much like the GGRF slush fund.

Again, the reality check is here, Speaker, that the slush fund would not have done anything for the renovation that the member opposite described. I’m very, very happy to share with her and everyone across this province that I’m working with ministry officials, as well as our local school boards, to identify the priorities, and we will move forward in addressing the renovations in a timely manner.

Government spending and accounting practices

Ms. Christina Mitas: Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Finance, but as it is my first time rising, I would like to congratulate you on your new role, thank the people of Scarborough Centre for electing me and congratulate the minister on his new post. The people of Ontario are very lucky to have you.

I’m pleased to see our Premier, Doug Ford, and our government following through on our commitment to restore trust and accountability to the province’s books through the establishment of the commission of inquiry. Despite the innuendo and fearmongering projected by the members opposite, the fact of the matter is that there are clearly defined terms of reference for this commission. This will ensure that taxpayers can trust that they will get a true picture of the state of our province’s finances as they were left by the previous Liberal government.

We truly do owe a debt of gratitude towards people like our Auditor General and the Financial Accountability Officer who helped reveal the Liberals’ finances and inaccurate financial reporting. Minister, can you tell us how—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you.

Response: Minister of Finance.

Hon. Victor Fedeli: Thank you to the member from Scarborough Centre for your first question in the Legislature.

I agree that the opposition seems to have taken a “let’s throw it against the wall and see what sticks” approach. Of course, that’s how they ended up with a $7-billion glitch in their alleged platform.

Here’s what will stick with our government: respect for the taxpayer and restoring trust and accountability with our finances. This is a government for the people.

No one is a bigger supporter of the work of the Auditor General and the Financial Accountability Officer than this government. The commission of inquiry has, as part of its mandate, the ability to reach out to the auditor and the FAO as it does its work and formulates its report. It’s the first step towards returning Ontario back to financial health—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Time.

Hon. Victor Fedeli: Speaker, thank you.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary?

Ms. Christina Mitas: Back to the minister: Again, I must agree that it was very disconcerting to hear the innuendo and personal attacks from the members opposite yesterday surrounding the commission of inquiry. It’s clear that former BC Premier Gordon Campbell, who will chair the commission, and Michael Horgan and Dr. Al Rosen, who are renowned experts in their fields, will provide Ontario taxpayers with the expertise needed to conduct this type of review.

It is reassuring, however, to hear that we are asking the commission to hit the ground running and issue a report in time for it to be considered as part of Ontario’s public accounts and in time for our fall economic statement.

Minister, can you please tell the House how the commission of inquiry will have access to the resources it needs to fulfill its mandate?

Hon. Victor Fedeli: Speaker, to the member: Despite what the opposition is asserting, the commission of inquiry will have the right tools and the right resources to get Ontario taxpayers the answers they deserve about our finances.

The commission has the latitude to reach out to the Auditor General, and she is ready to collaborate. I’m going to repeat the words of the Auditor General that she sent yesterday: “The Office of the Auditor General appreciates the government’s intent, as part of the financial commission of inquiry, to address the accounting practices we have previously expressed concerns about. Our office will work co-operatively with the commission.”

The opposition can spin all the theories and cast all the aspersions they want. We, on this side of the House, will continue to do the hard work needed to restore trust.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Restart the clock.

Next question.

Social assistance

Mr. Joel Harden: Mr. Speaker, this is my first occasion rising with you in the chair, so I want to congratulate you on your election.

My question is to the Minister of Children, Community and Social Services, a fellow Ottawa resident. The 2018 Ontario budget included a commitment to increase support for Ontario Works and the Ontario Disability Support Program recipients by 3% annually, starting this fall. One of my constituents asked me to confirm that these increases were planned to go ahead. When we checked with the ministry through my office, no one had the answer.

Will the minister confirm that Ontario Works and ODSP recipients will receive the increases in support that they’re counting on?

Hon. Lisa MacLeod: Thanks very much to the member from Ottawa Centre. I want to convey my heartfelt congratulations to him for his election to this place. I’m looking forward to working with him as a fellow Ottawa member, along with some of the Liberal members and, of course, our Ottawa team from our nation’s capital. I appreciated the opportunity to have a discussion with you earlier in the week and to encourage you actually to ask a question on this.

As you are well aware, I’ve got five ministries coming into one. I’ve been spending the last number of weeks doing briefings and working hard to make sure that that happens. But I want to reiterate that our social assistance programs are an important part of the safety net designed to assist our most vulnerable, and I take that to heart and I take that very seriously. I’m still being briefed, as I mentioned, on all aspects of my portfolio, but this is a very important one and I want to make sure that the people, particularly the most vulnerable, in our province and in our city are looked after.

I will answer more in the supplemental.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary.

Mr. Joel Harden: Minister, thank you for that response to the question.

As someone who lived in my formative years in a family that survived on social assistance with a single mom, I just want to remind—through you, Speaker—the House that we need to make sure that what matters in this province are the most marginalized and vulnerable people.

When the government goes over the ledger of this province line by line, I want them to remember the people we met in our election campaign suffering on meagre incomes, who have been held back for far too long. We need to invest in those who need a decent shot at a decent life, and I hope to hear that commitment from this government.

Hon. Lisa MacLeod: Thanks again to the member opposite. I do appreciate it.

I must say I agree with him. For far too long, people have been held down by the previous Liberal government, where life became so expensive and unaffordable, particularly with heating and eating and the price of gas.

With that said, I will say that when I was getting my briefings, I was dismayed to learn that more and more people are staying on Ontario Works for longer. Let’s face it, true income security in this province will be a job, and we will continue to make sure that people are getting the supports they need in order to work and keep more money that they have. Our focus will be bringing prosperity and more jobs to Ontario, but I take the member opposite’s point.

We want to make sure that Ontario is open for business, more people are working in this province and life is more affordable when they drive their car, when they buy their house or when they send their kid off to university. That’s what our focus is going to be—but I can assure you of one thing: Ontario’s back.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock.

Next question.

Taxation

Mr. Kaleed Rasheed: As this is my first time rising, I would like to take a moment and thank my family, friends and all of my constituents of Mississauga East–Cooksville for their trust in me.

Speaker, my question today is to the Minister of the Environment. Yesterday, the minister rose in this House to advise us of the meeting he had with the federal Minister of Environment. He reported to this House that he had stood up for Ontario taxpayers, telling the federal minister what so many of us have heard loud and clear from our constituents: Ontario cannot afford a carbon tax.

Following that meeting, Minister McKenna stated: “We are the federal government, and we need to work with everyone,” which sounded rather encouraging. My question to the minister is, does the Minister of the Environment really believe that—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you.

Minister of the Environment?

Hon. Rod Phillips: Thank you to the member from Mississauga East–Cooksville, and again, welcome to the House. I know you’ll serve your constituents well.

I was rather disheartened, Mr. Speaker, by our meeting yesterday. I was very clear with my federal counterpart that this government was elected to eliminate the former Liberal government’s cap-and-trade program and that we would not accept a replacement federal Liberal carbon tax. In return, she was very clear that the only version of a climate plan that she would accept was one that taxes the people. This is something that we do not agree with.

In her statement that Minister McKenna put out following the meeting, she said: “Climate change doesn’t stop with a change in government.” Well, Mr. Speaker, we agree. Climate change doesn’t stop, but the taxes do. Our government will not support a Liberal carbon tax.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary?

Mr. Kaleed Rasheed: Back to the minister: Speaker, I thank the Minister of the Environment for his answer. However, judging by his response and that of the federal minister, it doesn’t really sound like she is, as she said, truly willing to “work with everyone.”

My question to the Minister of the Environment: Will he commit to fighting for our province, so that more people can afford to live, work and raise their families right here in Ontario?

Hon. Rod Phillips: I appreciate the question from the member. That’s the question Ontarians are asking: Who will fight for Ontarians when it comes to protecting their wallets and their environment?

Mr. Speaker, the reality is that the Trudeau carbon tax is no more palatable than the former Liberal government’s cap-and-trade program. A carbon tax is a carbon tax is a carbon tax. I know the Premier understands this, which is why he’s working hard to build a team with his provincial counterparts to build a coalition to let the Prime Minister know this.

As was reported today, the Premier has joined with Premier Scott Moe of Saskatchewan and announced that our government will do whatever is necessary to get the message through to Ottawa that Ontario, Saskatchewan and a growing number of provinces will not support the Trudeau carbon tax.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

The member for Nickel Belt.

Labour dispute

M me France Gélinas: Merci, monsieur le Président. Ma question est pour la ministre de la Santé et des Soins de longue durée. Primary care providers at the Owen Sound family health organization and the Port Arthur Health Centre in Thunder Bay have been on strike for weeks. In two different communities, in two different family health clinics, patients lost access to their primary care providers because these workers cannot continue to put up with the toxic working conditions that undermine their ability to provide good care: low pay, precarious contracts, favouritism, bullying and extremely high turnover.

Minister, on behalf of the patients of Owen Sound and Thunder Bay: How can they count on quality care when their primary health care providers face these working conditions?

Hon. Christine Elliott: Thank you to the member for the question.

Patient care and safety, of course, are a primary concern for all of us. I am aware of the situation in both Thunder Bay and Owen Sound. I think it’s reflective of the situation that has grown up over 15 years of Liberal neglect and mismanagement, but we are going to try and fix that.

Having said that, this particular situation in these two locations is a private discussion between the operators of the clinics and the support staff. I am very hopeful that they will be able to reach a decision soon. I’m very confident in the bargaining process that they’ve entered into. We are following it closely, but it is a private matter between those two organizations.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary question.

M me France Gélinas: At the Port Arthur Health Centre in Thunder Bay, there are lifelong employees. We’re talking of somebody who’s worked there for 30 years and makes less than $15 an hour. In Owen Sound, the talks have broken off because the owners want to lay off their nurses. These are health care professionals. They shouldn’t have to be on strike to protect public health care, to stop nursing cuts, and to demand respect and dignity on the job.

What will this government do to help these front-line health care workers and to ensure that people, not profit, come first in our health care system?

Hon. Christine Elliott: As the member will know, the ministry is not a party to these negotiations. This is a private matter between the clinics and their employees. We know that there is great dispute resolution that happens in Ontario. We are hopeful that they will be able to come to a conclusion very soon. We cannot interfere in that process. It is not appropriate for us to do that. We are monitoring the situation because patient care and safety are of course of paramount concern to us.

Government spending and accounting practices

Mrs. Nina Tangri: My question is to the President of the Treasury Board. Mr. Speaker, many people across the province, including members of this House, have questions about the state of Ontario’s finances, in particular about the deficit and the many different opinions about the size of that number. After hearing about the dispute between the previous government and the Auditor General, people aren’t sure who to trust. Would the President of the Treasury Board please update the House on steps the government is taking to ensure the people of Ontario not only have a true picture of the province’s finances, but also a clear understanding of this urgent and complex issue?

Hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy: Mr. Speaker, to the member from Mississauga–Streetsville, thank you for the question.

We have heard a lot from the party opposite this week about the Auditor General and the important work she and her team do. We could not agree more. This Auditor General performed a valuable public service and uncovered one of the largest financial disagreements in Canadian history. Let me be clear: It is because we hold the Auditor General in such high regard that we are opening up the province’s books.

We ran on a promise to restore public trust. The people of Ontario deserve answers. A comprehensive line-by-line audit of government spending will fulfill that commitment. The era of obfuscation is over. The era of accountability is back.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

Supplementary question.

Mrs. Nina Tangri: Back to the President of the Treasury Board: It is reassuring to hear that the government is taking swift action to build a strong relationship with an independent officer of the Legislature, and to restore public trust. Would the President of the Treasury Board expand on how the government will work with the Auditor General during the line-by-line audit process?

Hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy: What a terrific question, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to the member from Mississauga–Streetsville.

This government is well aware that Ontario has the highest subnational debt of any jurisdiction in the world. It took 15 years for the previous government to create this mess, and it will not be solved overnight. A critical component of our plan will be to work closely with the Office of the Auditor General. We look forward to continued co-operation.

Mr. Speaker, I was pleased to read the statement from the Office of the Auditor General yesterday confirming that they appreciate “the government’s intent, as part of the financial commission of inquiry, to address the accounting practices we have previously expressed concerns about.”

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock.

The minister can conclude.

Hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy: Speaker, we will not tire and we will not stop until we have uncovered all the waste, all the excess and all the mismanagement of the previous—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you.

Next question: the member for Niagara Falls.

Public transit

Mr. Wayne Gates: Speaker, you had to find me there. I saw that.

My question is to the Acting Premier. Last month, the Premier went to Pickering to outline his transit vision for the area. He didn’t talk about expanding GO rail service; he didn’t talk about improving local bus services. No, he promised the people of Pickering a brand new subway. The people of Pickering definitely want better transit, but they did not ask the Premier to spend billions to dig a tunnel under the Rouge River and run a subway beneath the GO train.

The people of Pickering didn’t ask for this subway. Will the Premier tell us which of his lobbyist friends did?

Hon. Christine Elliott: To the Minister of Transportation.

Hon. John Yakabuski: I want to congratulate the member from Niagara Falls on his re-election as well.

Transit is an absolute priority for Doug Ford and the PC Party here in Ontario. If we can’t move people and goods, our economy will not flourish. It is an absolute necessity to ensure that we have an operational, efficient and effective transit system throughout the GTA and beyond. Doug Ford has made commitments that we will absolutely ensure, going into the future, that this will be a first-class transit system serving the people of Ontario.

There are many, many areas that are seeking transit. We are currently reviewing and we’ve said we’re sitting down with Metrolinx and the other partners to ensure that transit in Ontario will be first class—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you. Supplementary question?

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

Supplementary?

Mr. Wayne Gates: Back to the Acting Premier: The last government was all too happy to spend public dollars on multi-billion dollar mega-projects to benefit their friends and themselves. The voters sent that government packing, but this Premier is picking up right where the last Premier left off.

The Premier’s subway scheme won’t make transit more reliable or affordable for the thousands of Pickering residents who already take the GO train to downtown Toronto every single day.

So my question is, which lobbyist or Tory insider is the Premier pandering to?

Hon. John Yakabuski: I thank the member for the question. I say to the member that the commitment to transit is one that we didn’t arrive at cavalierly; we arrived at it because the people all across this area and the GTA have said, “We need to move better, we need to get around the city, and we need to get in from other areas around the city.”

Doug Ford will be remembered as the Premier who brought transit to Ontario because—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. Restart the clock.

Hon. John Yakabuski: We’re not going to sit idly by while others sit idly by in their cars, idling on the streets in gridlock. The unproductivity of gridlock is something that he has absolutely said we will not tolerate as—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you. Will the member please take his seat?

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock.

Next question?

Taxation

Mr. Stephen Lecce: Yesterday, the Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks met with his federal counterpart to defend the interests of this province. Today, our Premier met with the Premier of Saskatchewan to build a national consensus to oppose higher taxes on working people. Together these leaders are standing up for Ontario families, for taxpayers and for small businesses in every region of this province.

Mr. Speaker, this is leadership. This is leadership for the economy, leadership for taxpayers and leadership for the people of this province.

I have a difficult question for my seatmate this morning: Can the Minister of the Environment continue to stand up with every fibre in him to oppose this regressive, job-killing carbon tax?

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock.

Minister of the Environment.

Hon. Rod Phillips: I thank the member from King–Vaughan for his tough but fair question. The answer, of course, is yes. Not only will I stand up and our Premier stand up, this party will stand up for taxpayers. We will ensure not only the repeal of the regressive former Liberal government’s cap-and-trade carbon tax program, but we will ensure and we will do everything we can, the Premier and every member of this government, to stop a Liberal carbon tax.

Visitor

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member for Don Valley East on a point of order.

Mr. Michael Coteau: I just want to take a moment to introduce one of my number one volunteers, Sasha Pessos—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I have to remind the members that when they rise to speak, they have to be in their actual seats.

Deferred Votes

Throne speech debate

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): We have a deferred vote on the motion for an address in reply to the speech from the throne.

Call in the members. This will be a five-minute bell.

The division bells rang from 1146 to 1152.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I hate to interrupt this discussion, but it’s time for you to take your seats. Is everyone in their own seat? That’s important.

On July 16, 2018, Mr. Downey moved, seconded by Ms. Ghamari, that an humble address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor as follows:

“To the Honourable Elizabeth Dowdeswell, Lieutenant Governor of Ontario:

“We, Her Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of the province of Ontario, now assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious speech Your Honour has been pleased to address to us at the opening of the present session.”

All those in favour of the motion will please rise one at a time and be recorded by the Clerk.

Ayes

Anand, Deepak

Baber, Roman

Babikian, Aris

Bailey, Robert

Barrett, Toby

Bethlenfalvy, Peter

Bouma, Will

Calandra, Paul

Cho, Raymond Sung Joon

Cho, Stan

Coe, Lorne

Crawford, Stephen

Cuzzetto, Rudy

Downey, Doug

Dunlop, Jill

Elliott, Christine

Fedeli, Victor

Fee, Amy

Fullerton, Merrilee

Ghamari, Goldie

Gill, Parm

Harris, Mike

Jones, Sylvia

Karahalios, Belinda

Ke, Vincent

Khanjin, Andrea

Kramp, Daryl

Lecce, Stephen

MacLeod, Lisa

Martin, Robin

Martow, Gila

McDonell, Jim

McKenna, Jane

McNaughton, Monte

Miller, Norman

Mitas, Christina

Mulroney, Caroline

Nicholls, Rick

Oosterhoff, Sam

Pang, Billy

Park, Lindsey

Parsa, Michael

Pettapiece, Randy

Phillips, Rod

Piccini, David

Rasheed, Kaleed

Rickford, Greg

Roberts, Jeremy

Romano, Ross

Sabawy, Sheref

Sandhu, Amarjot

Sarkaria, Prabmeet Singh

Simard, Amanda

Skelly, Donna

Smith, Dave

Smith, Todd

Surma, Kinga

Tangri, Nina

Thanigasalam, Vijay

Thompson, Lisa M.

Tibollo, Michael A.

Triantafilopoulos, Effie J.

Wai, Daisy

Walker, Bill

Yakabuski, John

Yurek, Jeff

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): All those opposed to the motion will please rise one at a time and be recorded by the Clerk.

Nays

Andrew, Jill

Armstrong, Teresa J.

Arthur, Ian

Begum, Doly

Bell, Jessica

Berns-McGown, Rima

Bisson, Gilles

Bourgouin, Guy

Burch, Jeff

Coteau, Michael

Des Rosiers, Nathalie

Fife, Catherine

Fraser, John

French, Jennifer K.

Gates, Wayne

Gélinas, France

Glover, Chris

Gretzky, Lisa

Harden, Joel

Hassan, Faisal

Horwath, Andrea

Hunter, Mitzie

Karpoche, Bhutila

Kernaghan, Terence

Lalonde, Marie-France

Mamakwa, Sol

Mantha, Michael

Miller, Paul

Monteith-Farrell, Judith

Morrison, Suze

Rakocevic, Tom

Sattler, Peggy

Schreiner, Mike

Shaw, Sandy

Singh, Gurratan

Singh, Sara

Stevens, Jennifer (Jennie)

Stiles, Marit

Tabuns, Peter

Taylor, Monique

Vanthof, John

West, Jamie

Yarde, Kevin

The Clerk of the Assembly (Mr. Todd Decker): The ayes are 66; the nays are 43.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I declare the motion carried.

Motion agreed to.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott):

Be it resolved that an humble address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor as follows:

“To the Honourable Elizabeth Dowdeswell, Lieutenant Governor of Ontario:

“We, Her Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of the province of Ontario, now assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious speech Your Honour has been pleased to address to us at the opening of the present session.”

It being almost noon, this House stands in recess until 1 o’clock this afternoon.

The House recessed from 1157 to 1300.

Introduction of Visitors

Mr. Stephen Crawford: I would like to pay my tributes to the former federal MP from Oakville and the former provincial member from Halton Centre, Mr. Terence Young.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): We’re very pleased to welcome Mr. Terence Young, the member for Halton Centre in the 36th Parliament. Once again, welcome.

Ms. Jill Dunlop: I would like to introduce my intern student, Julie Baron. She’s a second-year University of Toronto political science and criminology student, and she’s in the gallery with us today.

Mrs. Lisa Gretzky: It’s my pleasure to introduce my husband, Tyler, who came up to watch my swearing-in but also to watch me in the chair this afternoon.

Members’ Statements

Canal Days

Mr. Jeff Burch: I am honoured to rise in the House today to deliver my first member’s statement, and I would like to take a moment to say congratulations to the Speaker on his election.

It’s a privilege to be here to represent the people of Niagara Centre, formerly Welland riding, who have entrusted their faith in me to advocate for them here at Queen’s Park. I am humbled by the opportunity to carry on the NDP legacy in Welland, Port Colborne, Thorold and south St. Catharines, following in the very large footsteps of Mel Swart, Peter Kormos and Cindy Forster. With hard work, dedication and the mentorship of my colleagues and predecessors, I trust their faith will not be misplaced.

I’m very happy, Mr. Speaker, to introduce in this Legislature one of Ontario’s favourite festivals, Canal Days in Port Colborne. Canal Days is a marine heritage festival hosted by the Port Colborne Historical and Marine Museum, celebrating their 40th anniversary this year. Every year, Canal Days has become more popular, and it is now a four-day event hosting over 400,000 visitors, with vendors, buskers, food merchants, live entertainment and one of the best fireworks displays in Ontario. Come sail on the Empire Sandy, one of the many tall ships gathered at the mouth of the Welland Canal, and experience Ontario’s largest outdoor classic car and international kite show.

Mr. Speaker, we invite everyone to the beautiful lakeside city of Port Colborne this August 3 to 6 for this incredible holiday weekend.

Robert “Bob” Nixon

Mr. Will Bouma: I would like to pay tribute today to Brantford–Brant’s very own Bob Nixon. Robert Fletcher Nixon was born on July 17, 1928. On Tuesday of this past week, he turned 90 years old. Mr. Nixon is the former leader of the Ontario Liberal Party and former member of provincial Parliament serving the people of Brant–Haldimand. Bob is the son of former Premier of Ontario Harry Nixon.

He was first elected to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario in the 1962 by-election following his father’s death. The younger Nixon was elected leader of the Ontario Liberal Party in 1967 and led them through three provincial elections, the first two where the Liberals retained their standing as the second-largest party and the official opposition in the Legislature.

Nixon resigned as party leader in 1976 and was succeeded by Stuart Smith after a leadership convention. Mr. Nixon remained a prominent member of the Liberal caucus after standing down from the party leadership, including two stints as interim opposition leader, and served as provincial Treasurer and Deputy Premier in the government of David Peterson from 1985 to 1990.

After leaving politics, he took a term as the official agent for Ontario in the United Kingdom and then served as the chair of Atomic Energy of Canada.

Truly, Bob is a great Ontarian and a great Canadian. But I don’t say all this, Mr. Speaker, to give honour to a family that held the same seat from 1919 to 1991 or to list Bob’s accomplishments. Rather, since he has become a patient in my practice, Bob has become a friend and mentor.

Decorum in chamber

Ms. Laura Mae Lindo: During the election, I had the pleasure of meeting one of my constituents in Kitchener Centre, who had me make her a promise: She asked me if I would work alongside my colleagues to change the culture of the discourse that’s happening right here in the House. She was upset about the fighting, the anger and the animosity. So I would like to use this moment to honour that.

I’m going to do that, though, by being very clear about the kinds of things that have been happening right here in the last few days that I’ve been here. One of those things is, actually, racism.

The way that racism operates under normal circumstances—people usually think that the issue is that it’s an individual who is racist. But based on my experiences, it’s not that; it’s about systems. It’s about laws and decisions and regulations that we make that perpetuate a myth of neutrality when they’re actually harming particular people—particular people more than others.

The reason that the NDP stands up against carding is because carding has been found to harm Black, brown and Indigenous people more than others. As a consequence, it is our job, it is our duty to our residents, to stand straight, to stand firm and to stand tall and say no. There are other ways that we can make use of the police. I think that we have to do that as part of our challenge.

Canadian Open golf tournament

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member for Oakville.

Mr. Stephen Crawford: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and my congratulations to you. I know you weren’t in the House when I gave my inaugural speech on Monday, so my congratulations.

Next Thursday, July 26, will mark the start of four rounds of play of golf for the 109th Canadian Open tournament. Once again, the Glen Abbey golf course has the pleasure of hosting the Canadian Open in Oakville. The Open is a rallying point for Canadian golf and an opportunity for Canada’s top golf talent to challenge the world’s best.

Glen Abbey is so much more than just a golf course. The course was designed by the world-famous golfer Jack Nicklaus in his first solo design. History has been made there: One of Tiger Woods’s best shots of all time occurred on the 18th hole of Glen Abbey in the Canadian Open in 2000. It was a 216-yard shot out of a bunker over a pond that clinched the Canadian Open for Woods that year. The course is also home to the Canadian Golf Hall of Fame and the head office for Golf Canada.

The Canadian Open is one of Canada’s greatest sporting events, and the tournament attracts tourists from all around the world. The Open is the third-oldest tournament on the PGA tour and was recently named the most fan-friendly by the PGA tour.

Oakville is truly fortunate to host this world-class Open, and I hope that everybody here has the opportunity to visit Oakville and visit this great event. Children and youth under the age of 17 have complimentary admission.

As the member from Oakville, my humble suggestion to the PGA players is that they do remember to bring a second pair of pants in case they get a hole in one.

Automotive industry

Mrs. Lisa Gretzky: Yesterday I asked the Conservative government about their plans for Ontario’s automotive sector. I asked why they had not once mentioned the auto sector in their election plan or in their throne speech.

My constituents don’t understand why the Conservatives want to cancel the Jobs and Prosperity Fund, which contributed millions in necessary investments to Windsor’s auto sector, supporting jobs and our local economy.

Over 200 business owners, local representatives and industry executives met in Windsor yesterday to discuss the tariffs that President Trump is threatening to impose on our auto sector, tariffs that undoubtedly would decimate our economy and the livelihood of the people in Windsor.

Despite this looming threat, just four days ago the Conservatives fired Ontario’s trade representative in Washington. What that says to me and my constituents is that this Conservative government is not prioritizing our economy and our workers. My constituents are rightly concerned that this government won’t fight for them in the way they need them to during this uncertain time.

We need to continue to hold the Conservative government’s feet to the fire and let them know loudly and clearly that we need them to do so much better. We need them to fight fiercely for our jobs, and we need them to develop a comprehensive auto strategy to guarantee the future prosperity of the industry. Windsorites and Ontarians deserve nothing less from their government.

Guild Festival Theatre

Ms. Mitzie Hunter: It’s my pleasure to rise in this House and invite everyone to the Guild Festival Theatre. Guild Park is a special place in my riding of Scarborough–Guildwood, a park atop the Scarborough Bluffs where nature, art, culture, heritage and the rich history of Scarborough are on full display.

The Guild Festival Theatre has enhanced this experience through their modern take on classical theatre production since 2011. I attended the opening night show of Shaw’s Pygmalion, along with many members of the community. All three levels of government were present, demonstrating the importance of art and culture to Scarborough. The Guild Festival Theatre is the only one of its kind in Canada. It is a point where nature and culture meet and where past and present come together.

The Guild Festival Theatre has become a pathway for vocational and educational opportunities for young artists. This would not be possible without the strong vision of the founders of the Guild of All Arts, Rosa and Spencer Clark—of course, we know our former Premier Bill Davis visited Guild Park and was hosted by the Clarks—as well as the ongoing hard work and dedication of the volunteers and those who serve on the board: Janet Heise, Jeannette Lambermont-Morey, John Mason, Friends of Guild Park and Gardens; the artistic director, Jamie Robinson; and, of course, the rest of the Guild Festival Theatre team.

It’s time to re-establish the Guild for a new age. I encourage the province to recognize the historic significance of Guild Park. Please visit the performance of Pygmalion. It runs until August 12, and I know you’ll enjoy it.

City of Markham

Mrs. Gila Martow: Last week, it was kind of monumental. We had a meeting with the mayor of Markham, Mayor Frank Scarpitti.

For four years, I was the lonely PC member in York region, and I was joined by the members from Richmond Hill, Markham–Stouffville, Markham–Unionville and Markham–Thornhill, because we all either border Markham or we represent parts of Markham. Of course, all the members now of York region for the Legislative Assembly of Ontario are PC members, so I’m going to have a lot of company. Hopefully, we’re going to make the rounds and meet some of the other mayors as well.

We spoke about issues of importance, key issues to the region and to the city of Markham, specifically getting the Yonge subway further north, increased freight train traffic coming through the region; and of specific importance—and what I wanted to share with all of you here today—is that Markham is a really strong economic player in Ontario.

In fact, I just wanted to share with you, in terms of Canada’s high-tech capital—we have that high-tech corridor from Kitchener-Waterloo, GTA and Markham. Markham has 1,500 tech firms, with 37,000 tech employees,

whereas the GTA has 11,700 tech firms—I think that’s 14,000; it’s hard to read this—with 286,000 employees. Kitchener-Waterloo has 500 tech firms and 23,300 employees.

So, you see that Markham is a really strong economic player in Ontario. I’m looking forward to representing their interests here at the Legislature.

Jane and Finch community

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member for Humber River–Black Creek.

Mr. Tom Rakocevic: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I congratulate you and all members on your election to this prestigious House. I would also like to thank my family, friends, team and the great people of Humber River–Black Creek. It is an honour and a dream to represent my lifelong home.

Within Humber River–Black Creek is the Jane and Finch community, where I grew up. It is a place where over a hundred languages are spoken and the hospitality of people is second to none. It’s a place of active young people, eager students and caring teachers, thriving businesses and brilliant entrepreneurs. We are a community of hard-working parents, educated professionals, inspired artists, amazing athletes, active seniors and passionate activists. We have beautiful naturalized areas and parks, and annual events and festivals where families gather and children play.

Yesterday, however, it was with great disappointment that a government minister named my community only to describe it as a place of crime, as he dodged a question from my esteemed colleague MPP Kevin Yarde, who was calling for an end to the discriminatory practice of police carding. Unfortunately, this stigmatization is nothing new to Jane and Finch, but it is especially hurtful and callous to hear it in this House. Words spoken here carry great weight and, as such, must be weighed carefully.

Rather than apologize, the Conservative minister sent a representative here last night to read a mean-spirited and insensitive statement. Jane and Finch and Humber River–Black Creek deserve better than this.

Frank Edward Graham

Ms. Jill Dunlop: It’s a privilege to stand before the House today to pay tribute to a local World War II hero, Mr. Frank Edward Graham. Mr. Graham passed away July 13, just shy of 96 years old. He had so many wonderful accomplishments, it’s difficult to mention them all in a minute and a half.

Mr. Graham served in the 1st Canadian Survey Corps, Royal Canadian Artillery Regiment. He enlisted, because it was the right thing to do, in 1941. He saw action 1942 through 1945 in Africa, Sicily, Italy, France, Belgium and the Netherlands.

He was wounded in the early spring of 1945 and was sent to England to recover and eventually home to Toronto, finally residing in Midland, Ontario. He became “Mr. Veteran Markelo,” after having travelled to Holland with many Canadian veterans at the invitation of the Queen and the Dutch Parliament to help celebrate the 45th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands in 1990.

In 2010, it was announced that it would be the last invitation to veterans to celebrate Holland’s liberation. Mr. Graham expressed his concern about keeping the memories of war alive so that children wouldn’t forget. Gert-Jan Oplaat, chair of the Welcome Again Veterans committee, took it to heart and the following year came to Canada to celebrate Mr. Graham’s birthday and announce that his group was organizing the Frank Graham Cycle Liberation Tour, a 10-day bicycle trip from Juno Beach to Markelo for Dutch and Canadian students.

There were two more tours in 2015 and 2017. Last year, the Dutch government announced the Frank Graham tulip, the colour of a poppy. He will be sadly missed by his wife and family, our community and the Branch 80 Legion family, even the BS table.

Hate crimes

Mr. Kaleed Rasheed: I was prepared to discuss the activities and great achievements that my constituents are working towards today. However, I must speak about the horrific and tragic event that occurred in a Mississauga community centre parking lot on Sunday, July 15, where a husband was viciously beaten and his wife, Diana, was also assaulted in front of their two young children. A friend, Fuat Yucel, who tried to intervene was also attacked.

Yesterday, I visited the family at St. Michael’s Hospital, where Mr. Muhammed Abu Marzouk had just regained consciousness and is bravely fighting for recovery. With great courage, his wife and children remain strong.

Thanks to the work of Peel police and first responders for addressing this incident urgently and professionally. Also, thanks to the witnesses, the two alleged attackers were apprehended and this horrific incident is now being investigated as a hate crime.

Mr. Speaker, I believe I speak on behalf of all parliamentarians when I say that hate will not be accepted in this society and that we must continue to work collectively in order to eradicate hate and intolerance in all forms within our beautiful province and country.

Petitions

Indigenous affairs

Ms. Bhutila Karpoche: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas Ontario is situated on the traditional territory of Indigenous peoples, many who have been on this land for at least 12,000 years;

“Whereas reconciliation must be at the centre of all government decision-making;

“Therefore we, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to act to:

“—continue the reconciliation work in Ontario by implementing the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission;

“—reinstate the Ministry of Indigenous Relations and Reconciliation;

“—work with First Nations leaders to sign co-operative government-to-government accords;

“—support TRC education and community development (e.g. TRC summer writing sessions);

“—support Indigenous communities across the province (e.g. cleaning up Grassy Narrows).”

I fully endorse this petition and will be affixing my signature to it and giving it to page Bavan.

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Ms. Jill Dunlop: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas the poppy is a traditional symbol of courage under fire and valour for Canadian veterans; and

“Whereas the current government campaigned on removing property taxes for Legion halls; and

“Whereas members of the New Democratic Party during the campaign were found to have made disparaging comments about both the use of the poppy and Canada’s veterans;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly as follows:

“That the government follow through on all efforts to support Legion halls as important parts of Ontario communities.”

I fully endorse this petition, sign my name, and give it to page Adam.

Air quality

Ms. Goldie Ghamari: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas Ontario is the most overregulated province in Canada, with over 300,000 unnecessary regulations; and

“Whereas there is absolutely no evidence that the Drive Clean test has delivered on its promise to reduce air pollution in Ontario; and

“Whereas forcing Ontario drivers to waste their time and hard-earned money on the unnecessary Drive Clean test is not about the environment, but was about creating another excuse for the previous Liberal government to unfairly tax the hard-working people of Ontario; and

“Whereas the cost associated with the Drive Clean test unfairly and unnecessarily disadvantages low-income families, especially those who are driving in vehicles older than seven years and cannot afford to purchase newer vehicles; and

“Whereas a similar, costly and unnecessary program in British Columbia was phased out in 2014 by the provincial government due to lack of evidence supporting its existence; and

“Whereas this government is committed to reducing red tape, respecting taxpayer dollars and putting more money back in people’s pockets;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:

“That the Ontario Ministry of the Environment, Conservation and Parks continue to respect taxpayer dollars by taking immediate action to eliminate the unnecessary, costly and burdensome Drive Clean test in order to help put more money back in the pockets of Ontarians, especially Ontario’s low-income families.”

I fully endorse this petition and will be affixing my signature to it.

Energy policies

The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Lisa Gretzky): Further petitions? The member from Algoma–Manitoulin.

Mr. Michael Mantha: Thank you, Speaker. You are looking quite comfortable in that chair. Congratulations to you.

This petition is from the great people of Blind River and Elliot Lake.

“To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas hydro bills in Ontario have become unaffordable for too many people;

“Whereas reducing hydro bills by up to 30% for families and businesses is an ambitious but realistic target;

“Whereas the only way to fix the hydro system is to address the root causes of high prices including privatization, excessive profit margins, oversupply, unfavourable net export practices and more;

“Whereas Ontario families should not have to pay time-of-use premiums, and those living in a rural or northern region should not have to pay higher, punitive delivery charges;

“Whereas changing the financing of private contracts and the global adjustment fails to reduce the long-term cost of hydro for families and businesses, does not fix the system and, in fact, will cost billions of dollars extra in borrowing costs;

“Whereas Hydro One can be returned to public ownership and management without increasing rates;

“Whereas returning Hydro One to public ownership would deliver over $7 billion back to the province and the people of Ontario;

“Therefore we, the undersigned, express our support for reducing hydro bills for businesses and families by up to 30%, eliminating mandatory time-of-use, ending unfair rural delivery costs, and restoring public ownership of Hydro One.”

I wholeheartedly agree with this petition and present it to page Medha, who will bring it down to the Clerks’ table.

Curriculum

Ms. Bhutila Karpoche: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas the health and physical education curriculum empowers young people to make informed decisions about relationships and their bodies;

“Whereas gender-based violence, gender inequality, unintended pregnancies, ‘sexting,’ and HIV and other sexually transmitted infections (STIs) pose serious risks to the safety and well-being of young people;

“Whereas one in three women and one in six men experience sexual violence in Canada, and a lack of age-appropriate education about sexual health and healthy relationships leaves children and youth vulnerable to exploitation;

“Whereas one in five parents reported their own child being a victim of cyber-bullying; and

“Whereas Doug Ford and the Conservative government is dragging Ontario backward, requiring students to learn an outdated sex ed curriculum that excludes information about consent, sexual orientation, gender identity, sexting, cyber-bullying and safe and healthy relationships;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to direct the Ministry of Education to continue the use of the 2015 health and physical education curriculum in schools and move Ontario forward, not backward.”

I wholeheartedly agree with this and will be giving this petition to page Eric.

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Mrs. Robin Martin: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas the poppy is a traditional symbol of courage under fire and valour for Canadian veterans; and

“Whereas the current government campaigned on removing property taxes for Legion halls; and

“Whereas members of the New Democratic Party during the campaign were found to have made disparaging comments about both the use of the poppy and Canada’s veterans;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly as follows:

“That the government follow through on all efforts to support Legion halls as important parts of Ontario communities.”

I support the petition, have affixed my name and will sign here and give it to page Tamsyn.

Prévention du tabagisme chez les jeunes

« À l’Assemblée législative de l’Ontario :

« Entendu que, au cours des 10 dernières années en Ontario, 86 % de tous les films montrant des fumeurs étaient accessibles aux jeunes et le fait que l’industrie du tabac se sert du grand écran pour promouvoir l’usage du tabac est bien documenté; et

« Entendu qu’un rapport scientifique rendu public par l’Unité de recherche sur le tabac de l’Ontario, environ 185 000 enfants de l’Ontario commenceront à fumer après avoir vu des personnages fumer dans des films, et que plus que 59 000 fumeurs ainsi recrutés finiront par mourir de maladies liées à l’usage du tabac, lesquelles entraîneront des coûts de soins de santé de l’ordre d’au moins 1,1 milliard de dollars; et

« Entendu que le gouvernement de l’Ontario s’est fixé comme objectif d’atteindre le taux de tabagisme le plus faible au Canada, et que 79 % ... des Ontariens et Ontariennes appuient l’interdiction de l’usage du tabac dans les films classés dans les catégories G, PG, 14A; et

« Entendu que la ministre des Services gouvernementaux et des Services aux consommateurs a le pouvoir de modifier, par l’entremise du Conseil des ministres, les règlements pris en application de la

Loi sur le classement des films;

« Nous, soussignés, adressons à l’Assemblée législative de l’Ontario la pétition suivante :

« Que le gouvernement examine les façons dont on pourrait modifier la

Loi sur le classement des films pour réduire l’usage du tabac dans les films classés dans les catégories qui conviennent aux enfants et aux adolescents, et diffusés en Ontario. »

Je suis complètement d’accord avec cette pétition et je la présente à la page Medha pour l’apporter à la table des greffiers.

Health care funding

Mr. Norman Miller: I have a petition with regard to hospitals and health care in Muskoka. It reads:

“To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas Muskoka Algonquin Healthcare has been considering the future of the Huntsville District Memorial and South Muskoka Memorial hospitals since 2012; and

“Whereas accessible health care services are of critical importance to all Ontarians, including those living in rural areas; and

“Whereas patients currently travel significant distances to access acute in-patient care, emergency, diagnostic and surgical services available at these hospitals; and

“Whereas the funding for small and medium-sized hospitals has not kept up with increasing costs including hydro rates and collective bargaining agreements made by the province; and

“Whereas the residents of Muskoka and surrounding areas feel that MAHC has not been listening to them; and

“Whereas the board of MAHC has yet to take the single-site proposal from 2015 off its books;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:

“That the Legislative Assembly of Ontario request the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care commits to maintaining core hospital services at both Huntsville District Memorial Hospital and South Muskoka Memorial Hospital and ensure small and medium-sized hospitals receive enough funding to maintain core services.”

I support this petition, have signed it and will give it to Bavan.

Normes d’emploi

M. Michael Mantha: Merci encore une fois, madame la Présidente.

« À l’Assemblée législative de l’Ontario

« Considérant que nombre de travailleurs et travailleuses ontariens sont touchés par la croissance des bas salaires et du travail à temps partiel, occasionnel et temporaire; et

« Considérant que trop de travailleurs et travailleuses ne sont pas protégés par les normes minimales actuelles décrites dans les lois de l’emploi et du travail; et

« Considérant que gouvernement de l’Ontario tient une consultation publique afin d’examiner les lois d’emploi et de travail de la province;

« Nous, signataires de cette pétition, demandons à l’Assemblée législative de l’Ontario de mettre en place un salaire minimum de 15 $ l’heure. »

Je suis complètement d’accord avec cette pétition et je la présente à Medha pour l’apporter à la table des greffiers.

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Mr. Dave Smith: I have a petition to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.

“Whereas the poppy is a traditional symbol of courage under fire and valour for Canadian veterans; and

“Whereas the current government campaigned on removing property taxes for Legion halls; and

“Whereas members of the New Democratic Party during the campaign were found to have made disparaging comments about both the use of the poppy and” our Canadian veterans;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly as follows:

“That the government follow through on all efforts to support Legion halls as important parts of Ontario communities.”

I emphatically endorse this petition, and will sign my name to it and give it to page Tamsyn.

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Ms. Goldie Ghamari: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas the poppy is a traditional symbol of courage under fire and valour for Canadian veterans; and

“Whereas the current government campaigned on removing property taxes for Legion halls; and

“Whereas members of the New Democratic Party during the campaign were found to have made disparaging comments about both the use of the poppy and Canada’s veterans;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly as follows:

“That the government follow through on all efforts to support Legion halls as important parts of Ontario communities.”

I fully endorse this petition and will be affixing my signature to it, and I will be giving it to page Justin.

Royal Canadian Legion halls

Mr. Logan Kanapathi: A petition to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

“Whereas the poppy is a traditional symbol of courage under fire and valour for Canadian veterans; and

“Whereas the current government campaigned on removing property taxes for Legion halls; and

“Whereas members of the New Democratic Party during the campaign were found to have made disparaging comments about both the use of the poppy and Canada’s veterans;

“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly as follows:

“That the government follow through on all efforts to support Legion halls as important parts of Ontario communities.”

I fully support this petition. I am fully endorsing this petition and am going to hand it over to Tamsyn.

The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Lisa Gretzky): The time for petitions has expired. Orders of the day.

Visitor

Mr. Rick Nicholls: A point of order, Madam Speaker, and it’s nice to see you in the chair this afternoon.

It gives me great pleasure to introduce to the Legislature today, sitting in the members’ gallery, the 2018 Canadian gospel music award winner, female vocalist of the year and new artist of the year, my daughter Brooke Nicholls Lensink.

Orders of the Day

Urgent Priorities Act, 2018 / Loi de 2018 portant sur les priorités urgentes

Mr. Rickford moved second reading of the following bill:

Bill 2,

An Act respecting Hydro One Limited, the termination of the White Pines Wind Project and the labour disputes between York University and Canadian Union of Public Employees, Local 3903 / Projet de loi 2, Loi concernant Hydro One Limited, l’annulation du projet de parc éolien White Pines et les conflits de travail entre l’Université York et la

section locale 3903 du Syndicat canadien de la fonction publique.

The Acting Speaker (Mrs. Lisa Gretzky): I will now recognize the minister to lead off the debate.

Hon. Greg Rickford: Earlier this week, I had the pleasure of introducing, on behalf of the entire government, the Urgent Priorities Act, 2018. Madam Speaker, our government has made a commitment to the people of Ontario, and we’ve done so since day one. We explained it in certain detail with real commitments in the speech from the throne last week.

Our commitment is to responsibility and accountability. The people of Ontario expect it. That’s what they voted for, and the government must and will deliver it. Public confidence is earned, not once, but again and again and again in every action that we take. Where we can move quickly to show the people of Ontario that their trust is well placed, we’re going to do that.

Nowhere has the public’s trust been so tested as with our province’s electricity system. We’ve heard it on the doorstep time and time again. We’ve heard it at town halls. We’ve read it in every community newspaper. The public’s faith in the management of this province’s electricity system has fallen and fallen. In recent years, they have been given little reason to hope that things would change.

Our government has listened, and we’re acting swiftly. We can restore the public faith in our electricity system not through one gesture, but through many other actions.

Similarly, we’ve watched students and parents stand by, forced to watch from the sidelines as the York University strike played out like a bad spectacle before their very eyes and classroom time was missed. When a student and their family make a decision as important as where to attend university, they have the right to expect that their education will not be used as a bargaining chip.

And so today we are here to debate draft legislation that speaks to three early commitments of our government. This act would enact or amend various other acts, and those items are:

—the Hydro One Accountability Act, 2018;

—the White Pines Wind Project Termination Act, 2018; and

—the Back to Class Act (York University), 2018.

If you’ll permit me, Madam Speaker, I’d like to speak to them in that order.

Notre gouvernement a été élu sur la promesse de réduire la facture d’électricité des gens de l’Ontario.

Our government was elected on a promise to lower electricity bills for the people of Ontario. This included a promise to address and renew governance at Hydro One. On July 11, we were pleased to accept a proposal from the board of directors of Hydro One that will see the board step down and be replaced by August 15 and that saw the CEO retire effective as of that day.

Now, there has been much debate in this Legislature about what this means for the people of Ontario, so I’m going to use this opportunity, through you, colleagues, to reiterate. Under the previous government, Hydro One executive compensation reached unprecedented levels. Mayo Schmidt was given $6.2 million in 2017. About $3.5 million of that compensation was in the form of stock-based incentives. In total, he retained the right to about $8 million in stock-based compensation that was previously granted. We can’t change the fact that the CEO has all those stock incentives.

However, Madam Speaker, what we are able to do is find a negotiated solution at Hydro One that would help minimize the costs to Ontario ratepayers.

If the board had terminated the CEO, Mr. Schmidt would have retained all of that stock-based compensation, along with an additional severance payment in excess of $5 million. In fact, Hydro One advised that Mr. Schmidt’s termination could have led to the resignation of other executives, which could have resulted in severance and additional entitlements. This would have been disruptive to Hydro One’s operations and could have led to millions of dollars in additional payments.

Our government believes that by engaging constructively with Hydro One’s board and Mr. Schmidt, we have delivered on our commitment, our promise to the people of Ontario. We have kept the company stable and we have found a lower-cost result by avoiding substantial severance payments. Promise made, promise kept.

Now we move, Madam Speaker, to what happens next for Hydro One. How will our ongoing relationship with the company work? Given the critical importance of Hydro One to our province’s electricity system, our government will be closely engaging in the leadership transition of Hydro One to ensure that the stability of the system is preserved and, most importantly, that consumers are protected. We will play a key role in appointing the new board and will expect it to act in the public’s interest.

The province and Hydro One have a governance agreement. It’s generally a strong document, and a good guide for the province’s role as the company’s largest shareholder. We will implement the actions in the legislation, should it pass, but the governance agreement will continue to be an important guiding tool in our relationship with Hydro One.

But, Madam Speaker, we also need to be certain that our intentions for Hydro One are well understood. We do not want to leave room for

interpretation that could see executive compensation grow beyond what is reasonable. That’s why our government has prepared legislation that, if passed, will ensure greater transparency and accountability at Hydro One. Everyone benefits when expectations are clear.

This act would require the board to establish, within six months of this requirement coming into force, a new compensation framework for the board, the CEO and other executives, in consultation with the province and the other five largest shareholders. It would also provide the management board of cabinet with the authority to approve the board, CEO and executive compensation framework and any future amendments to it before being put into effect, and to issue directives related to compensation for such persons for a specified period of time.

Public accountability is critical to this proposed legislation. Securities regulations only require a publicly traded company to report on the compensation of its five highest-paid employees. Our legislation goes further. We propose to require Hydro One to publish on its website any proposed changes to its compensation policies for the board, CEO and executives 30 days prior to seeking management board of cabinet approval for such changes. Furthermore, we would require Hydro One to annually publish on its website a record of the total annual compensation of executives, as prescribed by regulation.

Madam Speaker, if Hydro One needs to pay for repairs or system upgrades, or the sort of investments that provide long-term value to its customers, it’s reasonable to include that in the costs passed on to ratepayers. What we do not support is the customers having to foot the bill and pay the tab for executive salaries. By this act, we propose to amend the Ontario Energy Board Act, 1998, to provide that the rates charged by Hydro One Ltd. and its subsidiaries exclude amounts paid for CEO and other executive compensation. This act would also provide the crown and Hydro One with immunity from civil liability.

Now, Hydro One is an important company and a vital part of our province’s electricity system. It controls 95% of the transmission wires that cross our great province; it is also the local distributor for over five million customers. It has far more rural and remote customers than any other distributor in the province. These customers are often the most vulnerable, the people struggling the hardest to make ends meet.

To successfully operate a company like Hydro One, you need a great deal of