t ·, ' ' Volume 1 PROVINCE OF NEWFOUNDLAND THIRTY-SEVENTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NEWFOUNDLAND 1st. Session VERBATIM REPORT WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1975 SPEAKER; THE HONOURABLE GERALD RYAN OTTENHEIMER • ' ! Number 1

November 19. 1975, Tape 1, Page 1 -- apb Thf' House met n.t ):00 of the clock in the afternoon, pursuant to ad1ournment. ~r. Speaker in the Chair. SERGEANT-AT-ARMS: Hr. Speaker~ 1 have the honour to inform you His Honour, the Lieutenant- Governor has just arrived to open the First Session of the Thirty-Seventh General Assembly of Newfoundland. ~m. SPEAKER: Admit His Honour the Lieutenant Governor. Mr. Speaker leaves the Chair.

His Honour~ the Lieutenant-Governor takes the Chair. liON, F .O.HOORES (Premier): May it please Your Honour, the House of Assembly anreeable to Your Honour's Command, have proceeded to the choice of a Speaker, and have elected Gerald Ryan Ottenheimer, Esquire, Member for the Oistrict of Waterford-Kenmount ,to that office, and by their direction I present him for the approbation of Your Honour. _HIS HONOUR, THE LIEUTENANT~·C'.OVERNOR: On hehalf of Her Majesty I assure you of my sense of your efficiency and I do most fully approve and confirm vou as Speaker. ~PEAKER :_ Your Honour having approved of the choice of this House in constitutinr. me as Speaker~it now becomes my duty in the name of the representatives of Her Majesty's loyal sub_1ects, the people of this Province, to claim respectfully of Your Honour their accustomed rights and privlleges, ~specially that they shall have freedom from arrest during their attendance in Parliament and that 1 as Speaker, may have full access to Your Honour's presence at all reasonable times and that they hav<~ confirmed to them all their ancient rights and privileges which have bpen rnnfirnwd to them hy Your Honour's predecessors. !liS HONOUR THE LTEUTENANT-r.OVF.RNOR: On behalf of Her Majesty I do confirm this House ln the enjoyment of all its ancient and undoubted rights and nrivile,ges.

His Honour then delivered the Speech from the Throne. 1

MR, SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: I have the honour to welcome you to the First Session of the Thirty·Sevcnth General Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland. LJ.st August, through the courtesy of the Royal Canadian Navy \,';as enabled 10 further my trave!s in our Province. H .M.C.S. Algonquin took me on an official vtsit to the Governor of St.

Pierre and thence to more than thirty towns nnd settlements along our South Coast My wife and ! received the warmest of welcomes wherever we went and l wish to acknowledge with gratitude the addresses of loyalty which were read to me by the Mayors and other officials who greeted me and to say that these have since been forwarded to Her Majesty, The Queen. We are facing a challenge in the development of our Province, a challenge which must be met by this House of Assembly and the Government.

The national and international climate is uncertain and we must strive valiantly to continue and advance the progress of the last four years. It has been a difficult year for the Canadian economy. Inflation became n major disruptive force threatening our competitive position and weakening the purchasing power of fixed income groups in our society, It is now clear that we must deal with the causes of inflation, and not w1th ils symptoms alone.

The responsibility for inflation must be shared by labour, management and government and each group must be prepared to exercise self-discipline_ The Federal Government has proposed a program of nat!ona! action and My Government has r:greed in principle with the approach taken.

The new policy established guidelines for prices and incomes and created mJchinery for administration and enforcement, My Government believes that these guidelines will be eflc .!uP only if the major Interest groups in the community cooperate fully_ When my Government first tOL 'ffice in 1972 its main priority was to introduce programs to meet Ilk: needs of our people. My Government recognized that the services available to our people were inclt.lequate compared to the standards of other provinces, In many of our service areas, such as health and education, these disparities have almost disappeared.

We have accomplished a great deal in health, education, recreation, highways and municipal servl.ces. While My Government has made the improvement of public services 2

a matter of high priority, it recognizes that a strong economic base is essential 1f the progress we have mc~dc Is to be continued. My Government has taken decisive action to strennthen our economy in the knowledge that the continued economic growth of Newfoundland will depend upon the development and wise management of our natural and hurnan resources. Resource management has therefore been a high priority and in the future will become even more important. I would like briefly to review the achievements made by My Government to date, and to outline some of the plans now being implemented.

My Government !s making substantinl progress in its commitment to ensure that a comprehensive range of health care is available to all the people of the Province. Since 1972 the number of medical doctors has increased by 30 percent and an exciting new program which provides incentives to doctors to locate in isolated areas of the Province has been introduced. This represents the first step in developing a community oriented approach to the delivery of health care. Further steps in this new plan provide for the establishment of community health clinics and the expanding of the nursing role.

The emphasis in future will be on preventative health measures. In the past year My Government has introduced a new incentive program to alleviate the shortage of dentists, especially in isolated areas. My Government ls pleased to report that the Mobile Dental Clinic which was begun as a pilot project last Spring has been a tremendous success and plans are underway to expand the service. My Government was concerned with the severe shortage of ambulance services throughout the Province, as weH as the high cost to patients.

Therefore My Government introduced a new Program, which encoumges the establishment of ambulance services throughout the Provmce nnd ensures that costs are not prohibitive.

L)urlng the past year considerable progress was made on conS!rudion of the new hospitals at Twillingate and Carbonear, and the Extensi0t!'; to Waterford Hospital and the Western Memorial Hospital in Corner Brook_ Considerable progress was made toward completion of the Health Sciences Complex, and certain sections are now in operotion, It is expected that when the Health Sciences Complex is completed in the Spring of 1977, it will runk with the finest teaching hospitals in Canada.

My Government is concerned that the practice of acupuncture be s.-1fe and ethicaL You will be asked to consider legislation to ensure that 3

only qualified persons will provide that service to our people, Since 1972 My Government has provided expunded Social Services and endeavoured to place as many Social Assistance recipients as possible into jobs or vocational training, Phenomenal results have been achieved Thirty eight hundred recipients have been placed in employment or training and the ub!e-bodied Socia\ Assistance caseload has been reduced drarn<ltically. Another major step was to introduce a completely new Social Assistance program which provided adequate support for everyone in need of assistance.

My Government is satisfied that lt has now laid a solid foundation for Socia! Services in this Province. MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: We are in the midst of a most critical era in Labour Relations. My Government is continually seeking to promote industrial peace and harmony. A program has recently been started to upgrade and expand conciliation and mediation services for labour and management.

We intend to increase our efforts in this direction and plan to institute a Consultative Service to provide, for management and labour, a forum for rliscussing and identifying emerging problems. My Government will continue to seek new measures to cope with the ever increasing difficulties in this field, My Government has been distressed at the high rate of unemployment ln this Province. Despite the numbers of unemployed it is disturbing that many jobs are unfilled because skilled men and women are not always able to take the available jobs. My Government is aware that in addition to provincial funds, substantia!

Federal funds are spent unnua!ly in traininB, retraining, counseOing and job placement. My Government is not satisfied that vocational requirements are being served ndequJtely under Federal-Provincial programs. In the coming months My Government intends to develop a delinitive policy to ensure not only that adequate training and upgrading courses are available but also that there is Provincial involvement in counsel!ing and job placement.

My Government continues to meet the educatlonal challenges of the 70's A rnaior effort in the education field has been the construction of a Regional College at Corner Brook as an extension of Memorial Univt;rsity The College which opened ln September now accommodates more than 400 students. l t will offer the first two years of a University 4 •

degree program and at the same time will be co operating with other post-secondary institutions to serve students who are taking vocational or technological. courses. My Government is committed to amalgamating the major functions of the College of Trades and Technology and the Fisheries College and to extending the programs now offered< Legislation will be introduced in this Session to fnci!itate this amalgamation nnd to provide for a completely new facllity in Post·Secondary Education.

During the past four years, to meet the needs of a rapidly changing social order, My Government has placed considerable emphasis on Adult and Continuing Education. We are studying the broad question of adult education with a view to developing a community college concept which will provide a more comprehensive learning program as well as better use of facilities. My Government has taken a major step forward by forming a Division of Adult Co'ff6tt1bns,-1md for the first time will provide an Adult Probation Service.

My Government has been instrumental in expanding Legal Aid and, in 1975, placed it under the direction of the Newfoundland Legal Aid Commission, The Supreme Court of Newfoundland in 1975 wus radically altered with the setting up of a Court of Appeal and a Trial Division. My Government has been considering reform of the present method of finnncing elections, and during this Session, legislation will be introduced to control spending on political campaigns, to require disclosure of contributions to political parties, and to provide for a measure of public funding of election costs. MR.

SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: My Government recognizes the special problems faced by our senior citizens and will be placing greater emphasis on the important area of geriatric care, and, 1here will be continued emphasis upon rehabilitation of the n;;:ntal!y and physically handicapped. My Government has also embarked upon an investigation of the problems of alcohol and drug abuse and has established an Alcohol and Drug Directorate to advise Government on prevention, treatment and rehabiHtation.

The needs of Newfoundland Youth have been foremost in our minds and my Government has formed a Youth Services Division to co"ordinate and initiate activities for youth. In particular the 4-H 5

Program is thriving and the Young Voyageur Program last year made it poss1ble for 400 young Ne~vfoundlanders to travel to other provinces. My Government has continued to expcmd its involvement in sport and recreation~ Major expenditures have been made under the Rncreiltionul Capita! Grants Program to provide facilities throughout the Province, ln this past year My Government has been involved in five hundred and forty (540) projects in three hundred and thirty-seven (337) communities.

These projects cover the construction and upgrading of lac iIi ties from playgrounds to full scale arenas and heated indoor swimming pools. My Government has already announced its intention to form a new Department of Consumer Affairs.

A report wil! be received shortly as to how the Department should be organized, and the report will recommend courses of action to be taken by the new Department to benefit consumers, My Government has already introduced several new statutes which give greater consumer protection and in particular the Real Estate Trilding Act wit! be amended to improve the degree of control over that industry. A Mortgage Brokers Act will be introduced which will regulate that business and require mortgage brokers to make complete disclosure of all charges to customers.

The Automobile Dealers Act will be proclaimed on December 1, 1975. That Act provides for the registration of all automobile dealers, the establishment of trust accounts, and the mediation of disputes by a Registrar. Automobile dealers will be required to provide full disclosure a:; to the date of m.:mufacture and, in the case of used vehicles, the name of the previous owner, and any previous damages to the vehicle.

My Government is also preparing a Trade Practices Act which will for the first time enable class octions to be taken in the courts by Government on behalf of groups of uffected persons as a means of protecting consumers against unfair busiw:ss practices. The Landlord·Tenant Relations Division established in 1973 has acted on hundreds of complaints and inquiries, and the Tenancies Boards have heard more than 270 cases. The jurisdiction of these Boards may soon be extended to incorporate rent controls in accordance with the Anti·lnf!ation Program.

During the coming fiscal year My Government w111 continue its program of upgrading and paving main and trunk roads though the pace of the last three years will be reduced somewhat because of financial 6

restmints. Road building and paving under the DREE Agreement will Ci.lrry on and permit us to continue and compfete the projects already approved und negotiations are progressin!} for a new highways agreement. My Government will be placing even greater emphasis on highway safety and driver education and has set up a Highway Safety Advisory Board to conduct investigations, receive briefs and make recommendations to Government on a!! aspects of highway safety. !n February of this year, My Government established the Government Purchasing Agency to buy goods on behalf of all Government departments and agencies.

This Agency will ensure equal access to Government business throughout the Province and particular care will be taken to ensure that locally produced materials are purchased whenever possible. MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: My Government's municipal affairs policy is now under review in tight of the report of The Royal Commission on Municipal Government.

To this end fulf discussion wit! be held with municipalities to determine their reaction to the proposals contained in the report In the past three years building of new homes in this Province has reached record levels in contrast with declining housing starts in the rest of Canada. In Newfoundland 5000 homes are being built annually as compared to fewer than 4000 before 1972. My Ministers are nonetheless aware, that despite these advances, too many of our people are poorly housed.

My Government therefore intends a more intensified attack on the problem of housing for the poor and also to give relief to those of middle income. My Government, with the aid of Federal loans and shared cost prourams, will continue to increase its already heavy involvement in servicing building lots, in the construction of subsidized rental units and in rhe making of roans to those in rural areas. It will support the repair and remodelling of existing rural houses and will help to provide housing for those who can least afford it. My Government is fully conscious of the Provincial role in housing.

Whereas Federal assistance is important, it is only through Provincial initiative that many programs can be implemented. It is the Province that is most keenly aware of local differences and is most sensitive to the individual needs of our people and it is the Province that can most successfully blend contemporary concepts with our cultural traditions. 7

MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: The future of Newfoundland depends on its people and resources, My Government is confident that Newfoundland has the resources and that our people have the Initiative, to make this a very wealthy Province. With proper development we can enjoy a high standard of living without sacrificing our unique way of life.

My Government is committed to an intensive program of resource development which will build a stronger economic base and wilf require an individual and collective commitment to work for the common good, My Government will caB upon the initiative of Newfoundlanders and will ask people from every walk of life to bring forward ideas and proposals for growth and deve!opmenL Pilot projects will be initiated with groups and individuals, whereby these development opportunities will be realized. Special emphasis will be given to developing all aspects of the Handicraft industry.

Every effort will be made to attain a high stundard of quality in order to ensure continuity of markets, and the greatest return to the producer. Pilot projects will also be initiated to develop opportunities in fish farming. My Government will provide substantial assistance to enlarge the specialty food industry with particular emphasis on our berry crop and, realizing the importance of further processing involving cooking, freezing and canning, will devise special programs to encourage entrepreneurs in this Held.

The Community Consolidation Program is now under review, and recommendations for a change of emphasis and direction wilt be brought forward during this Session. My Government's Rural Development programs have been successful in creating some three thousand jobs in rural areas. These programs have been a motivating force in encouraging self--help. The programs will be made more responsive to the increasing involvement of our people in their economic development. Overfishing continues to be the most serious problem facing the fishery.

My Government has continued to press Ottawa for decisive action on fishery management, Failure of the law of the Sea Conference to reach agreement on the extension of national management rights has been a disappointment. The 40 percent reduction of effort agreed to by members of ICNAF in September represents a measure of success, though 8

our optim!sn1 with respect to this agreement must be tempered by our concern «s to whether this reduction can successfu!ly be monitored and enforced_ My Government feels that the only !ong term solution to the dilcmm\1 ol the fishing industry is a we!f-enforced system of national management_ My Government has strongly urged the Federal Government to change the Unemployment Insurance System as it affects our fishermen and we have made a number of strong representations to Ottawa on this matter. Resource depletion has accentuated the great imbalance between our capacity to harvest and our capacity to process.

The problem of inadequate landings is most acute on the East Coast and is reflected by unused plant capacity and high unemployment. Restoration of fish stocks wit! help to resolve this imbalance, but My Government is now pursuing a more immediate solution through joint ventures with large fishing interests in other countries. These joint ventures would permit agreements whereby fish catches would be landed and processed in Newfoundland, thereby providing ful! employment and guaranteed markets. A major new thrust of My Government will be to formulate and implement regional plans for fisheries development.

These plans will introduce catching methods and technology for underexploited species and wt!l improve fish handling and holding facilities designed for specific regions, Such initiHtives, co·ordinated on a Federal/Provincia! basis, will create new opportunities for our fishery to diversify, increase employment in plants and generally bring more stability to the regional economy.

The Food Herring Program successfully implemented on the Northwest Coast and Southern Labrador during the past season is an example of a regional strategy for the development of the herring resource in that area, My Government fully recognizes the immediate need for improved quality, with special emphasis on the primary leveL lrt order to develop such programs for eventual introduction in all regions of the Province, My Government ~viii undertake a major pilot project to promote quality.

A community wH! be selected and an intensive effort made in this community to eliminate outdated and unsatisfactory methods of fish handling, The project wlf! become a major vehicle to test and develop adequate methods of transportation by way of containerization, icing or rcfriUDration, as may be required and My Government wi!! encourage the 9

provision of ice~making facilities in major fishing ports throughout the Province. My Government will continue to recover lost or abandoned fishing gear. This program has already been highly successful in retrieving lost gill nets, Knowing that many of our fishing boats are obsolete My Government will take action to develop new designs for fishing vessels, based on regional needs. This will be done in co·operation with our exr>ert fishermen and boat builders, to arrive at the best designs possible. My Govmnment will also seek to obtain Federal co-operation to subsidize the conversion of boats for other fisheries.

In this coming year we propose to finalize agreements with the Federal Government, which will result in Provincial management of all Federally owned fish holding and handling facilities and their upgrading to inspection standards, As another positive step towards the development of regional strategies the current construction program for marine service centers will be expanded to provide a center in Southern Labrador and a second center for the Northwest Coast. It is hoped that the program will eventually lead to marine service centers in all major fishing regions of the Province.

My Government recognizes the need for a Fishing Gear Insurance program and negotiations towards a Federai,Provincial Gear Loss Insurance program are now proceeding with the Federal Government and !he Maritime Provinces. Such a program would be jointly funded by the Federal Government, the Provinces and the fishermen. The Fishing Industry Advisory Board will become fully operative in the new year and will be able to contribute to the rational settlement of disputes in the industry.

My Government has amended the regulations of the Fisheries Loan Board to reduce the down payment required to purchase new engines, electronic equipment, and used f1s~ling vessels. These amendments concur with the recommendations of the Select Committee on the Inshore Fishery and the membership of the Fisheries Loan Board will be increused to include fishermen. MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: The past year has been difficult for our forest industries. World markets have been weak and the three large mitis were forced to close for short periods.

Prospects are good for the improvement of paper and 10

I umber markets and My Government wit! continue to support and encourage ttwse important resource industries:. Last yenr saw the introduction of a policy which required Government departments and agencies to use Newfoundland lumber. Graded !umber is now stamped to identify it as a Newfoundland product nnd we look forward to further marketing arrangements that will assure our sawmillers of a good market. My Government intends to promote centralized lumber yards for buying and selling lumber. These yards would upgrade lumber and work to raise quality and impose uniform standards.

The yards will be strategically located and will promote the orderly growth of the industry by ensuring greater price stability and continuity of demand. The forest management system introduced in the The Thirty-Sixth General Assembly continues to make good progress. The first management plans have been received from the two major companies and My Government is presently reviewing these. Management plans have been prepared also for most of the Crown forest area, and intensive forest inventories are being completed.

These formal plans, to be approved by Government, provide for maximum sustained use of our forests< My Government is confident that as this work is completed over the next few years, our forest industries will be more efficiently supplied with raw materials. I am pleased to report that a spirit of co·operation exists between My Government and the paper cori.panies and it is evident that the new forest policy will bring long term benefits to this Province.

Our Forest Access Road Program is continuing at a fast pace, bringing greater employment for construction workers and providing necessary access to Crown forests for woods contractors, Last year saw a test of the new Forestry field organization. The forest fire hazard was more extreme than in 1961 when major fires deva~!nted forest lands across the Province. My Government is happy to report that the new organization worked welL For the first time we had taken fun responsibility for fire protection on all forest lands, including company limits, and losses were minimal despite the grave hazard.

The spruce budworm continues to destroy coniferous forests in Eastern N onh America, and our forests have been hit hard. My Government has so far avoided the large expenditures necessary for chemical controls and has instead developed a program to build access roads to harvest infested forest stands. 11

Last year three pilot projects were begun to provide small garden plots for Ci!y residents who do not have access to suitable land. These projects were well received and over 400 families participated, My Government is also pleased to report that this program is self-sustaining, for the modest rental fees from the plot holders have been sufficient to cover direct operating costs. Our livestock industries continue to expand toward self-sufficiency. Swine production and broiler production continue to increase and this year should see a substantial increase in production on the West Coast.

My Government Is now preparing a comprehensive Swine Raising Program which will be adopted this coming year, and we hope that the program will in a few years make the Province an exporter of disease-free breeding stock. A similar program exists for sheep raising and a sheep breeding station was started last year. Carefully selected breeding stock will be made available to sheep producers as the first move to re"establish sheep raising as an expanding and profitable enterprise for our farmers. My Government began in the past year, a system of equipment banks for farmers.

This program will be assessed next year in consultation with the farmers to assure its effectiveness, An intensive survey of blueberry lands has been completed and My Government proposes tO Introduce a comprehensive management plan next year. Our blueberry production can be doubled under good rnanagement and the processing of these fruits into gourmet foods must be done within the Province.

Natural, wild fruits such as our blueberries, which are not subject to any chemical treatments, can and will command a premium price in a world market that is becoming more and more appreciative of uncontaminated foods of high quality. The Province's vegetable producers encountered some difficulties last year in marketing their produce.

My Government undertook a program to promote the use of locally grown produce, and the response of our people was encouraging, Our marketing and distribution system has been identified as one cause for high food costs and we plan to solve this problem by developing a processing and marketing system that will effectively place our own produce on the market My Government will promote centralized storage facilities for agricultural products and will provide further support to the industry through its purchasing policy.

The mining industry has made great strides in Newfoundland and Labrador and this progress has been due, in large measure, to My 12

Government's new policies in a!l areas of mineral resource management. Then: is still a great tleul to be done before we achieve al! that we have set out to do, but the rapid growth in production, and the expansion of exploration activity have proven that the approach is correct We have long expected additional mineral development in Labrador and it now appears that uranium deposits hold great promise for early development ! am pleased to say that My Government will be introducing legislation to make labradorite the official mineral emblem of the Prov'1nce.

Early in 1973 My Government adopted an interim policy which abolished the granting of mining concessions on the Island of Newfoundland. It also eliminated the practice of extending such agreements, and provided that subsequent acquisitions of mineral rights wHl be in accordance with the claiming provisions of The Crown Lands (Mines and Quarries) Act. As a result, 22,000 square miles, or approximately half the Island of Newfoundland has already been opened up to competitive exploration and the number of claims being staked is rising rapidly.

My Government wHI introduce new legislation to make permanent the successful new policy for mineral rights acquisition. The Mineral Act and The Quarry Mater'1a!s Act will provide us with long overdue legislation on mineral land tenure. In order to encourage the surrender of long term mineral rights to lands,on which little or no exploration work is being done, My Government is considering the introduction of a Mineral Acreage Tax Act.

Recognizing the need for a thorough examination of the Province's rmneral revenue structure and the comparatively smatf return to the Treasury from that source My Government appointed a Royal Commission in 1974 to examine this area.

With the valuable assistance p1 uJided by the Comm'1sslon's Report the Min'~ng and Mineral Rights Tax Acr was passed in the last Session, That new legislation will result in a gn>JUy increased return to the Province's Treasury and will nonetheless maintain ;z fuvourabfe tax climate for the industry, My Government is placing high priority on protecting the health of, and 'msurlng safe working conditions for, our 7000 miners.

Additional steps are being taken to see that acceptnbfe levels for such hazards as dust and radiation are appropriately defined and that al! necessary facilities are installed in mining operations. 13

MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF HIE HONOURABlE HOUSE OF ASSEMBlY: !n Jurw 1974 My Government acquired dfective ownership of the Churchill Falls (Labrador} Corpomtion throuuh the purchase of Brinco's interest in CFLCo. and at the same tirne acquired Brinco's water rights in La!mldor. Since then rnaior efforts have been made to bring about the development of the Gull Island project on the Lower Churchill River.

My Governrw~nt 1s at present Involved in negotiations for the financing of this project and a Ministerial Statement on the undertaking will be made in the neJr future, Over the past five years, expenditures estimated at close to $200 million have been made on exploration for oil and gas in the offshore areas of our Province, ln 1974 Eastcan Exploration Limited made two highly significant discoveries of natural gas on the Labrador Continental SheiL These discoveries were followed this year by two further wells in the Labrndor area when significant evidence of hydrocarbons was encountered during drilling.

The hydrocarbon potential of this area will be further evaluated during the 1976 drilling season, My Government has recently completed a thorough reassessment of the offshore resource potential and its possible monetary value to the Province_ It is estimated that the offshore area contains some 40 trillion cubic feet of fJ<lS and 35 billion barrels of oH which will likely be !i~ocovered, produced and sold on a profitable basis.

The probability of a < llfn:\H;rcial find being made within the next five years is estimated at 70 percuH My Government is committed to the implementation of a proper resource rnamqunr:nt policy for oil and gas development which will ensure that in the explo1 :~tion, development and production stages, there will be a maximum economic return to the Province. At the same time, My Government is anxious to ensure that these activities cause minimal social and economic disruption nnd fully protect the environment.

Discussions have begun with representatives of the communities most likely to be affected by offshore development with a view to involving loci.ll residents in the planning. These efforts of My Government will be futile !f our moral and legal rights to develop our offshore oil and gas resources are denied. These rights are part of the Province's heritage and must be recognized by the Federal Government. In the area of the pricing of petroleum products My Government has noted with concern the extremely heavy burden being placed on 14

consumers by rapid increases in gaso!ine and heating ol! prices. In addition, the action of some Canadian provinces in controlling prices has jeopardized the principle of equal petroleum prices In the country. In response to these factors, it is My Government's intention to 1ntroduce lc~JiS!ation which will p!nce petroleum product prices under Government corrtrol. Complementary to the actions on price control, My Government intends to place increasing emphasis on the conservation of energy.

Actton wiH be taken in the public sector to ensure that energy conservation is practiced in all public buildings and vehicles. One of the most exciting areas for future development is the field of marine technology. The exploration for, and extraction of, resources In the Eastern Arctic and off the Coast of Newfoundland will require not only high expenditure but a high !eve! of technological competence. We have only begun to develop efficient methods of extracting resources in Northern latitudes, ln cold oceans where water depths are extreme and where ice and climatic conditions are rigorous.

The Province of Newfoundland has committed itself to become a leader in technological advances to solve these problems. My Government has created the Newfoundland Oceans Research and Development Corporation (NORDCO) in order to develop the technological competence which is required to overcome tile physical burriers which impede development in these waters.

NOROCO will undertake applied research projects relate{l to exploration, development, transportation and processing of resources found in Northern waters and wi!! encourage the growtll of marine,orlented industry in Newfoundland, An example of an industry of this type is the construction of concrete production platforms for offshore oil and gas wells, Newfoundland has the on!y harbours on the Eastern Seaboard of North Arnertt.il which arc suitable to build these massive structures.

My Gove · 1ent is convinced that, wfth proper preparation, these new opporh 1lies in the field of marine industry will contribute greatly to the lndu~t<aJ growth of this Province. !n the twld of Tourism, My Government has undertaken research projects to enable us to understand better our tourist potential and methods of attaining it A Mobile Hospitality Training Program is now in progress and, for the past two years, a Hospitality Homes Program has cncouru!Jed private dtizens to open their homes to tourists. The tourist industry is increasingly important to the Provinciat economy and the 15

tHJmbtr of non ICSidcnt tourists IS growin~J rapidly. There has been increasing pressure on parks and camping facilities and there is a clear need for improvement to, and expansion of our present park system. In view of the need for new facilities and in reco(Jnition of high ernpfoyrnent associated with park construction My Govt:rnrncnt wi1! be continuing its park expansion program. My Government i:, mvare of the general dissatisfaction with the is~;tllnU of big qamc licences. As u first step towards the resolution of this problem it 1s planned to expand and increase hunter safety training.

It is planned to inc.rew:e the number of instructors and to prepare range facd!tles to implement and accelerute the announced program of mandatory qualifying and testing of big game hunters. Hunting regulations as they apply to Northern Labrador wll! be reviewed to correct inequities for permanent residents of that area. MR, SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABlE HOUSE OF ASSEMBlY: The Federal Government has requested that the Province sign an agreement to participate in the proposed anti-inflation program.

My Government intends to sign this agreemenr provided it is satisfied that the Fedcrnl system of price controls will operate effectively. As part of tile program to control inflation My Government will introduce legislation which will impose limits on increases of rents. Any increase which cannot be justified by cost increases will not be allowed. This legislation wll! be complementary to the Federal legislation now before ParliamenL The Federal Government has proposed changes in policy to restrict the growth of public spending.

My Government has agreed to the need to restrict government spending but has argued strenuously against any curtailment o! Federal spending which would reduce our rate of economic development. The rapid growth of our labour force makes it imperative thut the rate of job creation in Newfoundland continue to increase in order to uvoid increased unemployment.

My Government has agreed to restrict its own spending in the social field and to exercise all reasonable economies" My Government will be taking firm action to bring costs under tighter controL Finn leadership will be required it we are to reduce the rate of inflation and to achieve a high rate of growth at the same time, 16

The key to the future lies in our people and our resources. We shall continue our program of manpower training to ensure that our people have the skills to participate in a growing economy, While My Government will be exercising restraint in spending, priority wif! be given to resource development and creating new jobs. My Government recognizes that unemployment remains the major problem in this Province and that the only solution is to encourage the growth of resource based industries. MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: Jt has been four years since My Government took office.

In that time it has faced and accomplished the imposition of order in our economic development; programs of sound management of our resources; of compassion and justice in our social policies; of realism in our finances and above all shown a determination to achieve rational development consistent with maintaining our quality of fife. To that end My Government is prepared to stand firm on the control of inflation, which includes control of Government spending and, where necessary, the control by legislation of excessive demands upon our economy.

My Government recognizes that for our Province to become strong and viable, people must be prepared to work hard and to make sacrifices. There are no easy solutions and no hope of progress without a commitment on the part of our people to force this Province ahead by individual and collective effort. My Government will take atr necessary steps, whether popular or unpoputar, to achieve these ends, but Newfoundlanders must join with us in that commitment, for our progress is not the progress of a government but the progress of a Province.

My Government has faith that Newfoundlanders will rise to the call of leadership, the call to work and thP call to sacrifice. The acceptance of this challenge will determine our rigln to n sound and prosperous future. 17

November 19, 1975, Tape 4, Page 1 -- aph '·1H. SPF.AKF.R: The hon, the l!ous£> Lt~ader. On motion, the hon. the !louse Lender (Mr. Wells) to introduce n bill, "An Act To Ratify, Confirm And Adopt Tt.to Indentures Of Hortgage: Governing The Repayment To The Government Of All Monies Originally Advanced By Government For The Establishment And Operation Of A Mill At Hawkes Bay • Newfoundland And To Make Provision Respecting Matters Connected Therewith." On motion, said bill read a first time, ordered read a second time on tomorrow. }\R.

SPEAKER: His Honour, the Lieutenant Governor has been pleased to make a speech to the members met in General Assembly, and for greater accuracy I have obtained a copy. HR. J. GOUDIE: Hr. Speaker! :.tR. SPEAKER: The hon. the member for Naskaupi. NR. r.oUDIE: Mr. Speaker, it is my honour and privilege today to move that a committee of this hon. House be appointed to draft an Address in Reply to the Throne Speech.

However • before makinp: this motion I feel it is important at this time to reflect upon some of the accomplishments of this ndministratfon, and upon the course th~C'_ p.overnment has chosen for th!~~ Province over the next year. This administration when it first took office had the responsibility of restorinr, faith in a government and establishin~ a sound base on which to huild a stron~ economic and social future for and with the people of Newfoundland and Lnhrador.

The people of this Province can continue to rest assured that the !'-!oores Administration is sympathetic to the views and feelings of all the people.not just a select few. There need he no fear of recrimination in speaking out if you disagree with the views of government. With the potential which th:l s Province enjoys in terms of resources • it is mandatory thnt w~ utilize to the fullest our human resources.

This view was reflected by the Moores Administration in the field of education, the basic tool which will he used to train the people of Newfoundland and L.,brador to actively participate in and take advantage of present resource and social developments and those to come. The construction of the Regional College at Corner Brook to serve the West Coast and Labrador as an extension of Memorial University is an important step in the field of continuing education. Other post-secondary 18

November 19, 1975, Tape 4, Page 2 -- apb Pducntion and continuing adult education schemes will continue to provide vounp, and old tllike with the option of upgrading and refreshimt their education tn cope- with the demands of today's skill and technology, This government has also shown it cares for the elderly and will contintw to e>nsure that they receive the consideration and respect they deserve. Mr.

Speaker, through its youth programme, the Moores Administration has shown that it has confidence in the young people of this Province and wlll continue with the idea that young people should also have a voice in the decisions which affect this Province through youth forums and resultant recommendations. In the areas of consumer affairs, housing, public and private transportation. resource development, and indeed the social fibre of this Province, the ~oores Administration has shown that it cares for the people of this Province. Hr.

Speaker, with recently announced aUBterity measures it ts obvious that the government and the people of this Province will have to he more cautious in spending. A trwitching of emphasis from development of our major resources alone. to include the development of all aspects of industrv in Newfoundland and Labrador. will be essential, not only under austerity measure~ hut during the good times as well. 19

November 19, 1975 Tape 5 PK - 1 !'he sk i1] 5 developed in an age when it was necessary for our forebears to hurvcst the natural treasures of this land coupled with their skill of mind and hand is an indication that handicrafts and natural foods should still be a part of the economic in the Province. FtHure experimental programmes in this area will not onlv prn'lide us with an idea of what exactly the land and people have to offer, but \/ill also restore in us the concept that it is not only l~rge developments which will benefit the pr0v!nce but the smaller industries as well.

During the weeks and months ahead the government will be dealing l-tith all aspects of our fishing industries with strong emphasis on federal-provincial relationships and agreements, The forest industry will continue to receive support and encouragement, ensuring that the thousands of people now involved in that industry will -continue to do so especially with encouragement by the government that this Province make full use of its domestic supplies. Mr.

Speakt~r t everyone realizes the importance of our mineral rnt'>ources and the upcoming introduction of legislation to make labradorite the official mineral emblem of the Province is not only appropriate at this time in our history, but it is also a tribute to that part of the FrvJitE:e from which its name is derived. Utilizing proper resource mangement policy in terms of minerals. wood, oil and gas and hydro development, this government will ensure maximum economic return to the Province. Hr.

Speaker, by your leave I wish at this time to bring to this honourable House of Assembly the grectJngs and good wishes of the district of Naskaupi. In terms of communities it is composed of Happy Valley-Goose Bay, Churchill Falls, North West River· and Mud Lake. The resources of my district and its central location to Labrador makeR it the pivot around which most of Labrador's future and indeed the future of the Province will revolve. The district of Naskaupi is also rich in terms of heritage and ethnic culture.

I feel it can be instrumental in promoting the concept that there should be more local level input into decisions of government thereby ensuring that development 20

~ovemher 19, 1975 Tape 5 PK - 2 does not come ;n the expense of the land and its people, but rather for the mutual benefit of both. This government should also ensure that its natural beauty and its wildlife should not suffer too greatly by establishing provincial parks and by recommending national parks as well. Hr. Speaker, Labrador is a vast area encompassing in the vicinity of 120,000 square miles. The people have a tradition of living in harmony with the land, welcoming its changing facades with the seasons.

There are three basic ethnic groups -Indian, Inuit and settlers -and with changes taking place because of military operations, mineral, wood and hydro developments our lifestyles are changing. That change is evident as one travels from Wabush and La.hrador City in the west through Naskaupi district and on to communities on the coast. The communities in the northern and southern sectors of the coast are about to go through a transition with subsequent development of coastal industries and changes in the fishing technology.

The people, of Jabrador have made many significant contributions to the Province ln the past. but one of the most significant was the sworn afftdavits of the trappers, hunters and fishermen of Labrador. all three ethnic groups combined, presented at the hearings of the Privy Council of 1927 which was instrumental in establishing the boundaries in favour of this Province. In building a more secure future let us not forget our past.

Th·~ land vhich provided the men. women and children with the very sustenance o.i life is now being readied to provide this Province wtth t:he basi• LH·•"edients for a sound and nrosnerous future. Mr. Sneaker, with careful plann -1 t>; and decisions based on sound judgement and common- sense we can be leaders not only in combatting and defeating the disease of inflation but in utilizing to the fullest our human resources. We in this Province have a proud and noble heritage. Let us now claim that heritage and look to the future not in consternation hut with pride and assurance. Hr.

Speaker, as the member for the District of Naskaupi I have the distinguished pleasure of moving that a committee of this han. House be appointed to draft a reply to the gracious Speech from the Throne, 21

November 19, 1975 Tnpe No, 6 IB-1 "-fJ!. SPEAKER: The hon. memlH~r for Plncentin. \11?. PATTERSON: "r. Sne<~ker, I eomdder it a gn~at honour and privilege tn Aecnnd the motion ~n ably -rrnpnserl hy my co11eaglle, the hon. member for Nasknupi. Fven though the arens nf the Province that we represent are so vnstly different gengrnphically, cultnrally, and ton Jn:rr;e extent econ<'mfc:<lly, the hon. member and t share a great many things in comrrrm.

He nre both outport Newfoundlanders 1 each with a firm commf tnent tn the preservation of onr Newfoundland way of life, the futt1re direction in vhich the development of our Province shn11ld tnke plncc,and the undaunted faith in the future destiny of our people and our Province. The bon, member for Naskaupt and I represent the geographic extremities of this Province~ his being one of the Northernmost districts,anrl the district of Placentia which I have the honour tn represent being nne of the most Southern areas of the Island part of our Province, Be th~t as it may, Mr.

Speaker, irrespective of these dt fferences, we are all NewfoundlR.nders and share the same determination tn make our Province nn economically viable partner in Confederation. 1 commend our Premier and hi" colleagues, Mr. Speaker, for the position that they have adopted and for the direction in l<hich we are headed •.dth respect to futt1re development as outlined in the Speech from the Throne.

His Honour today confirmed what most Newfoundlanders have knm.11 for a long time, and that is that the time has come for us to take stock of ourselves and decide exactly where- we intend to go hath as 11 people and as a Province. 1t Ls obvious now that the time has arrived for all of us to re-establish some of the basic V<< tJes that are the cornerstone of our democratic free enterprise system vhich despite its shortcomings remains the best system thnt man has been able to devise both individually and collectively. All of us, Hr.

Speaker, are guilty of overlooking one very basic fact, and that is thnt we ~et out of life only as much as we are prepared to put into it ourselves. The new direction in which we are headed together with the 22

November 19, 1975 Tape No. 6 lB-2 courageous stand that has been taken by our government wi.ll, we believe~help all of us to recapture that strong and indelible sense of independence for which our forefathers were noted and which was their fortress as they courageously and with determination set out to lay the foundation for the Newfoundland that ve love and enjoy today.

I have enough faith in my fellow Newfoundlanders to be able to say with the utmost confidence that working together we will overcome the problems we are facing because of inflation. 1 have enough confidence in our government to know that under their guidance our Province will continue to grow and prosper and that our Newfoundland way of life will be preserved. Historically, !-l'r. Speaker, in th:l.s Province the wheel has gone the full circle.

After years of flirtations with pie in the sky schemes and schemers, we must now realize that the soci.al and economic future of our Province and the future well-being of our people does not lie in the establishment of multimillion dollar pipe dreams but rather in tl1e things that we have and know best. 1 am sure that I express the views of most Newfoundlanders when 1 say how pleased I am that our government is placing so much emphasis on the development of our basic natural resources and our human resources.

Get-rich-quick schemes of the past have not worked, and there Is ample evidence to prove that they will not work in the future. The only real and lasting economic base for Newfoundland is in the development of the resources we have,not the least of which is our fisheries. 1 believe, Hr. Speaker, that bold new initiatives must be taken in the area of fisheries if it is to achieve its full potential and lts rightful place in the social and economic lives of our people, our Province and our nation. These initiatives must be undertaken by the industry and by the provincial and federal governments.

The federal government must become more responsive to the problems of the industry. They must place far greater emphasis on 23

November 19, 1975 Tape No. fi the absolute need for the establishment of a 200 mile limit as well as a long-term prog~amme of conservation and where necessary rehahilitation of existing fish stocks. As a Province we must not allow the federal government to continue to abdicate its responsibility to our fishermen in the matter of income support, IB-3 price stabilization and in the provision of harbour and wharf facilities. We must never allow them to forget that our Newfoundland fishermen are an important factor in the economy of our country and tn the provision of badly needed protein food for the world.

I am happy to report, "1r. Speaker, that in my district of Placentia there has been a renewed interest in the fishery in recent years and 1 am convinced that with a little help on the part of the government at both levels and some direction it will once egain play a major role in the future of Placentia district. l am sure that the 24

November 19, 1975 Tape no. 7 Page 1 - mw people of my district share my enthusiasm with respect to the development potential of the Argcntia area. Certain buildings and support facilities built by the U. s. Government at considerable cost are being vacated by that government at Argentia. I am extremely pleased to learn that their future use and economic value will be carefully assessed by our government. Ironic as it may sound, I firmly believe that Argentia has the potential to once again become a major factor in the social and economic life of the people in the Placentia area.

Its ice free and relatively deep-water port, together with its geographic position offers unlimited possibility, and in many areas of development, including fisheries. I am looking to our new Minister of Fisheries and to my colleague, the Minister of Rural and Industrial Development for some action in that regard in the not too distant future. There are a great many other areas of deep concern to the people of my district, Mr.

Speaker, Canadian National's operation in Argentia and their obviouS indifferent and short-sighted approach to the transportation needs of our Province, and their reluctance to fully utilize their facilities at Argentia. There is absolutely no reason, Mr. Speaker. why the passenger and freight handling facilities at Argentia should be allowed to lie dormant for eight months of the year.

Ferry service between Argentia and North Sydney should be operating on a year­ round basis and i( properly promoted would provide a much better service, not to mention a number of full-time jobs that could be ·provided in the area. New initiatives in the area of fisheries, financial and moral support by the government in the development of other resources and expanded Canadian National ferry service in Argentia, together with our great human resources, are an important ingredient in the future social and economic development of our district and our Province, and I firmly believe, Mr.

Speaker, that we are sufficiently endowed in the Placentia area with these attributes to ensure a bright future for our people. In closingt Mr. Speaker, I know that my constituents would want me to express their sincere thanks and appreciation to government for the many services that have been provided in the area since they 25

November 19, 1975 Tape no. 7 2 11ssumed office. New road construction, paving,provisions of water and sewerage facilities and other benefits too numerous to mention have been provided by the Moores Administration for which the people and 1 are very grateful. I am not suggesting for a moment, however, f-ir. Speaker, that all of our needs have been met.

Despite all that bas l>nen done in the past four years, a great deal more requires to be done* and I can assure the people of Placentia that during my term of office I shall endeavour to keep their needs before government, and I feel confident that they will be s:ympathetlcally considered. Also, Mr. Speaker, I ~ish to congratulate you on your election as Speaker of this han. House and wish you well. Your Honour has many friends in my district. and I am sure they would vant to associate themselves with my sentiments in that regard. I take great pleasure in seconding the motion. MR. SPEAKER: The hon.

Leader of the Opposition. liON. E. M. ROBERTS (Leader of the Opposition): Mr. Speaker. may my first words, Sir, be words of congratulations to you on your unanimous r l~'ction to the Chair of the House. Sir, the Chair in this Chamber over tlw 140 years that this House has been in existence has established a noble reputation for impartiality, one which has been jealously guarded and onewhich 1 believe to be of the essence of this very House.

I believe, Sir, I know I speak for every member of the House, that you will uphold this and enhance it • and I know that you Yill add much to the prestige and the lustre which has accrued to the Chair of this Chamber over the years. t am pleased, Sir, to notice here today, among our guests. Hr. Speaker Clarke and Mr. Speaker Russell, one of whom already hangs in the Chamber and the other of whom flhortly I have no doubt vill hang by him, and in due course 1 hope Your Honour hangs with Your Honour's peers.

May I congratulate the mover and the seconder of the motion to appoint the committee to draft the Address in Reply. I thought each of them spoke very well, Sir. The hon. gentleman from Naskaupi, who I believe is the first native -born Labradorian to take a seat in this House, 26

Novemhrr 19. 1975 Tape No. S NM - 1 ~1R. ROBERTS: certainly, Sir, spoke eloque:ntly and from his heart. w~ listened attentively and with great care. The han. gentleman from Placentia I thought spoke equally eloquently and equally from the heart and T am very glad to see him here, Sir. His entry into the House is a triumph to persistence and 1 think we should all admire and pay tribute to that. Hay I also, Sir. draw attention to and welcome my colleague the member for St.

George's who is the first lady to take her seat in this House in over forty years since Lady Squires was elected and I believe only the second lady ever to be elected in the thirty-seven General Assemblies which this Province and this Country have known. I think it is both fitting and appropriate, Sir, that in International Women's Year the women of Newfoundland should be represented in this House by one of their own. I am honoured and pleased that we have her sitting as our colleague on this side and I believe she will add greatly to the debates of the House and to the work of the House.

And I also welcome the return of the han. gentleman from Twillingate and the hon. Rentleman from Placentia West, both of whom have returned to the House following a four year absence, Each, Sir, has been elected by a constituency for the eighth time.

I believe each of them, Sir, will have a new experience because although the han. gentleman from Twillingate did sit for one day in Opposition, he did not have an opportunity there to show his work in Opposition nor did my colleague the han. gentleman from Burin-Placentia West who equally has s:It for just one day in Opposition, each of them for twenty- three yet!:: to Hr. Speaker 1 s left, I thim all of us, Sir, in this House and throughout this Province, Sir, are very eagerly looking forward to their participation in the work of the House. Mr.

Speaker, although we normally do not take notice of guests in the Bouse, not because we are not honoured to have guests in the 27

November 19 ~ 1975 Tape No. 8 NM - 2 Chamb0r but becausl!' in tht!' parliamentary tradition, the traditions exemplified by Your Honour demanding of His Honour the Governor our traditional privileges, a ceremony which I believe goes back JOO or 400 years, r think that the Bouse should take note of the fact that a very distinguished resident of our Province has recently been honoured in an exemplary and significant way and refer to the Lord Archbishop of Newfoundland, Archbishop Seaborn. do not think it is appropriate but in due course I would hope the Premier would move a resolution to signify the approval with which I know every member of the House greeted the news that the Archbishop had been made the Metropolitan of the Ecclesiastical Province of Canada, I know, Sir, we on this side would subscribe with pleasure to such a resolution.

Now. Sir, this a new House~ a new beginning, this is the Thirty-Seventh Gen~ral Assembly of this Province. There are no less than tventy-three new members in this House, Of the fifty-one of us. twenty-three have never before sat in this House. Only eleven of us have sat since 1966 and only seven of those eleven have sat without interruption over the four General Assemblies which have met since then. This is the largest House we have ever had in this Province. The fify-one mt!mbenJ returned in the general election are the largest number the people of Newfoundland and Labrador were ever asked to elect.

I think that is fitting. Sir, because I hope and I believe that we are equal to the challen{}e which we as members of this House must meet. These are difficult times~ Sir~ for Net.·foundland and Labrador. Our ship of state is afloat on storm-tossed seas and the voyage is all thl! more dangerous because in large measures we are now, Sir, in unchartered waters. Let me say ~oday~ Sir, clearly and unequivocally, that those of us in the official Opposition, and I think 1 speak for the other gentlemen who sit to your right, Hr.

Speaker, that we are deeply conscious of this and that we stand ready ~o do our part to help to solve these problems and to meet these difficulties. I say 28

November 19, 1975. Tape No. 9 RH - 1 that, Sir, t¥ith conviction and with fervor 1 and I believe with equal conviction and equal fervor that this House, this House, Sir, is the place where these problems should be discussed and solutions sought. The House is not the government~ Sir. Rut the government are only the government because. and as long as~they possess the confidence of this House. That is the British system. That is the basic principle of responsible government.

The government, Sir, are responsible to this House and we in turn, each of us.answera to the people, the men and the women who sent us here to speak for them. At any time, Sir, the government should come before the House with their assessment of the Province's needs and their proposals to solve those problems but. Sir, even more so now in these difficult times and these troubled times. Sir, the government have the undoubted right to govern. There are more members, Mr. Speaker, sitting to your left than there are sitting to your right.

But it is a matter or record, Sir, that throughout this Province on September 16 more people voted against the government candidates than voted for the government candidates. It is a matter of record candidates supporting the government party, Sir, got a far lesser vote this time than they did in the election of 1972,or for that matter in the election of 1971. It is the first time in our history~ Mr. Speaker, as far as I r<>n lenrn that a government has taken office with less than a majority of the popular vote.

And that, Sir, is reflected in the fact that the Oppositi.on, the members sitting to your right, Sir, are the largest group ever to sit in Opposition in this Province. 1 'lr nt say that, Sir, in any partisan sense but simply to show further '•Be if any be needed why this government must come before this House, must put their faith in this House. Sir, I believe the government must be absolutely frank and candid with the people. I have no doubt, Sir, that Newfoundland and Labrador will weather the storm. We are a tough and a hardy race. We have been tested often and I 29

November 19, 11J75. Tape No. 9 RH - 2 h~lieve that we can meet this test too and 1 urge the government to put themr,clves in the hands of the House. lt i.s easy. Hr. Speaker, in government - and T know whereof 1 speak - It is easy to feel that the House of Assembly is not the place where the action is. It is easy, Sir, to dispense with the House or to ignore it, to feel that we have a rna 1orHy to our backs and we wi 11 carry the day. Sir, that would be a mistake, a ~rave and a great mistake in the public climate tnday in this Province. The people of Newfoundland and Labrador, Hr.

Speaker, look to this government for leadership. They expect leadership and they have a right to leadership. Sir, I think that is what this session will be all about. The government must provide leadership. There is no solution, there ls no hope to our difficulties, there is no way out of our dHf iculties without leadership by the government. I beli.eve, Sir, that the people of Newfoundland and Labrador will respond to that leadership if it is given in candor, if it ls given with realism and with full and complete and perfect honesty. It is time, Sir, that the government took the people into their confidence.

I believe, Sir, those art> the hallmarks, those qualities are the hallmarks of leadership and l 1wlievr the people of this Province, Sir, will respond to leadership offered in that way. Sir, this is not the time to go over the record of the last few years. There will he nmple opportunity for it.

But, Sir, to show the dimensions of the problem we face let it be noted that in the last four yenrs 1 from November. 1971 until October, 1975 Statistics Canada tell me that our work force in thi.s Province increased by 30,000 people but only 20,000 new jobs, one out of every three young Newfoundlanders coming into the work force, Sir, 10,000 -z,sc,:, people a yrar without jobs, Sir. The number employed went up, yes, from 158)000 to 188,000. The number unemployed - 1 am sorry - the number employed, Sir, went up from 140,000 to HiO,fiOO, The number unemployed went up from 18.000 to 28,000. That, Hr.

Speaker, is just but one indication of the 30

November 19. 1975. Tape No. 9 RH - 3 dimensions of the problem which today confronts this Province. We are falling further and further and further behind. It is not now the time to go into who is responsible or what should be done. This House is the place and this session is the time. 31

November 19, 1975, Tnpc 10, Page 1 -- aph Hut, Sir, the issue now in this Provine<', the issue before our neople now. the issue whit"h must he beforP us ifl what does the future hold for this Province. What can it hold for Newfoundland and J.abrador? What must we do to make this Province of ours what we want her to be rmd \Jhat we know she can be and what we can make her? These are the fssw:•!t, 'ir.

Speaker, .1nd i.t is here that the government must provide the lead~rship. lVe, Sir, for our side, and I speak for the sixteen who sit in the official Opposition, we, Sir, will do our share and co-operate and respond. Now let me say a word about inflation. Mr. Speaker, because it is much on everybody's lips and everybody's mind these days. There can he no doubt at all that it is a serious problem, and there can equally be no doubt that action must be taken.

But, Sir, the people of Newfoundland and Labrador-nor the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador, I venture to say- did not cause inflation in Canada, and we must not suffer because of it. There is nothing, Sir, in the programme announced by the Prime Minister in October, or as elaborated since by the Prime Minister and by other spokesmen for the Government of Canada that requires drastic cutbacks In our expenditure. It would be a very inappropriate way to meet the prohJems of this Province.

There may he other reasons for cutbacks, Sir, :tnd if there are let u~ hear them. but there is nothing in the anti­ inflation programme that requires drastic cutbacks in expenditure. Sir. on this side we shall support any measures that are necessary for the economic and social health of this Province. But it is up to the government, Hr. Spenker, it is up to the government to show the House and the people of this Province that measures are.necessary. That is one of the places where leadership must be shown. Just to say something is necessary, Sir, does not make it so.

The people must be taken into the government's confidence. tf there is a problem, if there are difficulties, they affect each and every one of us, every soul, Sir, living between Trepassey - the most southerly community in this Province - and Na~n. the home of my friend from Eagle River, the most northerly community in this Province. We must be r"onvinced, Sir, before we shall support them that measures are fair and equitable as well as necessary, that they protect those who most need protection, the peoPle on lower incomes, the people with 34

November 19~ 1975, Tape 10, Page 2 -- apb fixed incomes. We believe that price control is essential. Subject to that we will co-operate in any measures to benefit the people of this Province and we shall do so gladly. Mr.

Speaker, I was disappointed that there was so little in the Speech from the Throne about labour-management matters in view of the fact that is an inextricable part of the anit-inflation policy and programme, that we must have co-operation of labour and we will get co-operation only if it is willingly given~ only if the labour movement are convinced that the cause is just and that they are being asked to bear only their fair share of any sac~ifices that may be involved, but particularly so, Mr. Speaker, in light of the current situation. The Price mill is on strike for the first time in fifty years.

I am told that today in Stephenville the employees of the Linerboard mill are voting and the expectation is that they too will vote to go on strike. And I might add while we while we speak of candor and disclosure, the people of Newfoundland who own the Linerboard mill, Sir, and have owned it since 1972, have yet to be given any financial statements at all- profit and loss sheets or balance sheets to show the condition of our investment, the $200 million or $300 million that we have put into that mill.

The Bowaters mill is in conciliation~ I am told, but there is an expectation there may be a strike there, a.nd all these, Sir, coMing atop the fact that each of these mills took down time earlier in the year. The fish plants: the workers in the fish plants are in negotiations for new wage and working agreements and many of those, Sir, are apparently not going well. Conciliation boards are being sought. The situation at St. Lawrence where the people of that community, Sir, who have ~ived through tragedy,and tragedy upon tragedy, are now in the midst of anothPr tragedy.

They have been locked out for some six months and there is no siRn of a settlement. I am not say:tng the government are responsible for these strikes, Mr. Speaker, nobody would say that. But, Sir, it is their duty to provide leadership to help to resolve these situations and the people expect it. The Throne Speech had a great deal to say about fishery and resource develoPment. We welcome that. We believe that the future of the 33

November 19, 1975, Tape 10, Page 3 -- apb Province is linked closely as anything can be linked to the development of our natural resources. We Yill support the government's measures to get these developments and we hope that

November 19, 1975 Tape No, 11 IB-1 the events support the promise in the Throne Speech. Your Honour will pardon me for saying that we shall reserve judgement because much if not all of what we heard in the Throne Speech has been said before and said often and has yet to be accomplished. We hope it will he accomplished and the quicker the better. I noticed with some regret, Sir- and I do not understand this. It must be an oversip;ht,and perhaps when the Premier speaks he could clear it up - for the first time in my eleven sessions in the House the Governor did not tell us we would be asked to vote supply. ilON.

J.C. CROSBIE (MINISTER OF MINES AND ENERGY): Second. HF. ROBERTS: It is the second time,the hon. gentleman for St. John's West tells me. Why? We keep hearing rumors of a mini~budget. Is there something to it? Are the government going to govern without attempting to get supply from the House? 1 do not think so. Is it just an omission? Could the matter be set straight? Normally as Your Honour knows the governor reads a

section which says something to the effect that hon. members will be asked to vote supply onto Her Hajesty. It is not in this year's Throne Speech. Election financing and the plans to control gas and oil prices - of course we welcome those, Mr. Speaker. It is said that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. If that is so, Sir, we nn this side are highly flattered for we have long advocated these reforms-it the House several years ago,and throughout the Province. I was dJsro nfnted that there is no reference to Marystown, the difficulties vtth the shipyard there which have now become public.

There must be considerable discussion of this, Sir. There must be frank and full disclosure of all the circumstances, everything that has happened and exactly what is going to happen. There must be some discussion of the situation with respect to the Department of Fisheries. I do not wish to put any terms on it but obviou~;ly there is something there that causes grave concern and T wrmlfl hnpc at an early date the minister or one of the spokesmen 35

November 19, 1975 Tape No. ll IB-2 fnr the government t.•iJl tell the !louse exactly what is involved. As it now stands, Sir, apparently many of the fishermen of this Province or many of the Pusinesses of this Province.Sir, are apparently involved in some sort of skulduggery. If there is skulduggery let lt he exnoserl nnd Jet it be dealt ¥.rith.,hut let us be told l<lhat Is involved.

I am r,lnd there is p;nfng to be 11 ministerial statement on the Lower ClwrchU 11 but 1 would hope, Sir, and I would ask the l'rem.!er tn nssure us when he speaks that we lJill be given an early opportunity to dehate the Lower Churchill project. The government obviously, Sir, are not getting ahead with it very quickly. We were told in this House last session~in the Spring,that by the end of October a full project release would have to be given. Today, Sir, is the nineteenth of November. three weeks after the end of October. If such a full project release has been given, it has not been made public.

What is the situation with respect to the Lower Churchill? In fact, is it going ahead? There are twenty-eight people working nn the proJect in Forteau- no, 1 am sorry, not in Forteau, on the •;t>\./fnundland side of the Straits, this day, twenty-eight. That is the extent r>f the work on that side of the Straits. There are a few more than that working in Forteau. What else is being done and how much is it cnstinr, u~? Hr. Speaker, let rr.e mention just one other thing that I should have mentioned in opening.

Since the House last met 1 we have lost, death has taken frnr' us, a fanner member of the House, my friend and my colleague, the dend and colleague of every man in thi.s House. I refer to nr. Jarn2"'• ~cGrath. Again our procedure does not provide for the normal resolution on opening day 1 but I would hope that Dr. McGrath,who was four times elected as the member for the old district of St.

Marys and served with distinction as Hinister of Health and then for a brief period as Minister of Finance, that the appropriate resolution will be moved as quickly ns possible and sent forward as a mark of the tribute and respect 36

November 19, 1975 Tape No. 11 IB-3 which this House feels for the service which Dr. t-lcGrath gave this !louse nnd this Province. Let me conclude, Sir, by saying that we on this side speak and hope for a productive session, one which is productive for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. We expect it to be one and, Hr. Speaker, we shall work hard to make it one. Thank you very much. ){R, SPEAKER: The hon. the member for Twillingate. HON. J. SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker, I have genuine pleasure in extending to you, Your flonour, !'dncere 37

November 19, 1975 Tape 12 PK - 1 conp,ratulations on Your Honour's elevation to the Chair of this House. You have arrived there by a route taken, I helieve~ by no predecessor of yours. You were in the House as a private mernber, you were here .1s teader of your party, you were here also as a Hinister of the Crown. Now these, of course, were partisan jobs, and you, Your Honour, were reasonably but not terribly partisan 1 as I can testify. Now you nn: Hr. Speaker, and you have joined this illustrious company whose portraits I had the great pleasure to have made and placed in position.

There are twenty-eip,ht of them here. Of the tuenty-eight I personally knew precisely one-half and I can assure you~ Your Honour. that you have joined very distinguished company indeed. I know that as Speaker all your training in education and in public life and by instinct, by your very nature, Your Honour, you will be one of the best Speakers this House has ever known. and that is saying a lot. I offer my congratulations to the two han. members who moved and seconded the motion that is before us. The Premier must have been a proud Premier as he heard these two new colleagues of his speak here todav.

I would have been proud had I been in that position. 1 know a 't-rle ahout it because in my own time I had the privilege of choosing some forty-four members of this House to do what those two hon. gentlemen did here today. to move and to second that motion. I congratulate all hon. members who have been elected to this House, the Liberal Reform memhers, the Libernl Party members and the Tories ~ and the Independent Liberal, above all. You know. we got here one way or another but in the words of the poe ''What matter how we reach the land so we all reached it. n We all got n :: somehow or other.

I am myself personally extremely glad over the prec nee of - I am especially glad of a number of han. members. The Member for Henihek - I am charmed and delighted that we have here in this House today a man from Labrador who represents a very ancient, a very ancient and honourable ethnic group in Labrador, the first time that that group has been represented here and I am sure we are all happy and proud about it. You have the names mixed up. 38

November 19, 1975 Tape 12, 1975 PK- 2 HR~ __ _?MA~ Well, yes, I will reverse the order. I intended to speak of the han. member from Naskaupi for whom I have immense admiration. Now that admiration,! confess,is maHe all the livelier from the fact that he was once a very ardent Liberal,and not only was he an ardent Liberal but he was a Joey Liberal,which was the final acid test of it all in days gone by.

He has commanded,and rightly commanded._ the respect of the whole public of this Province and the affection of all who have come in touch with him; a straight shooter, decent, sincere. and extraordinarily able, the workhorse of my hon. friend the Premier because he has put him into virtually every department of his administration. I am delighted too that the bon. Member for Eagle River is here. The name was not familiar to me when I first read it, until someone who knew said to me,"Of course, you know him. He had meetings with you.

He had conferences with you to discuss some problems of fishery development~ Possibly the hon. gentleman will recall as I do myself. 39

November 19, 1972 Tape no. 13 Page 1 - mw I have to say, however, that in expressing this very special welcome to the member for Eagle River, 1 am sorry that his friend and comrade and colleague and fellow Labradorian, Winston Churchill White, was not elected. I, a Liberal~ saying 1 am sorry from the defeat of a Tory? Yes! That particular Tory would have made a magnificent addition to this House, and I am sorry that he did not get in here. I am very happy to see the member for Windsor-Buchans. I am happy that he got here.

I am happy that I did Y~hat I 'COuld to help him,which was to do nothing. and that did help to some extent. 1 am glad to see here in the Chamber now, at last, the bon. member and now minister, the member for Grand Falls. Now he, of course, as we all knoYJ, is a very able han. member, but he has been an oppositionist. Since he has been in politics, he has been in opposition. I give him a friendly warning. Forget opposition and be a minister. Be a Minister of the Crown.

Be one of the Queen 1 s Ministers and forget these intemperate years of opposition up in Uncle Ottawa 1s House. 1 am delighted, too, that another professional oppositionist, uw bon. member for Bonavista South, got in here again. He is now a minister. By his very nature he is an oppositionist, and I warn the hon. the Premier, keep a sharp eye on that new minister, and keep reminding him thnt he is a Minister Of the Crown now, not a member of the opposition. and then maybe he will turn out to be an excellent lninister indeed.

I am more pleased than 1 can say over the presence here in the Chamber of the bon. member for Trinity-Bay de Verde, first for his own sake, for his own qualities,'but, if I may be permitted to say it, because he is the son of a dc·;r friend of mine, Senator Dr. Fredrick W. Rowe. I am delighted, too, though 1 should not say it, that an old friend and opponent of mine, the hon. member for St. Mary 1 s­ The Capes, who once sat in this Chamber with me on that side, on the government side, when it was a Liberal side, the present Minister of Fisheries, 40

November 19, 1975 Tape no, 13 Page 2 He~ too, has the habit of opposition, and I hope he can divest himself, shed that hnbit of opposition, which I would like to do too by the way. And the honourable gentleman will doubtless make a good member. Now a special word to one who spoke today, the han. member for Placentia. I believe that this was his seventh attempt at being elected. The only one I ever heard of to equal that record was Abraham Lincoln.

Abraham Lincoln, before he was elected, tried, I think.some twenty, twenty-five times and was defeated every time but finally became Abraham Lincoln and the martyred President of the United States. An~ my hon. friend I welcome here all the more because ( I cannot see where he is. I see him nov~ he was such an ardent Confederate. He was one of my most ardent friends and supporters and of Greg Power. out around Placentia. He worked like a Trojan to bring Confederation. and he never did a better thing than that since he was born. I am very happy to see here again with me the hon. member for Burin - Placentia West.

Is that what it is called? He and I have taken the oath and signed the roll eight times in this Chamber. We did it this morning for the eighth time • each of us. We are the co­ fathers of the House, and I am so happy that he is here. I heard him make a speech in this Chamber that was, I believe, one of the most moving speeches ever delivered, certainly one of the most moving since the coming of Confederation. I am delighted, as we all must be delighted, at the presence here of the hon. member for LaPoile.

What would this House be without him and what would the Opposition have been without him in the past three and three-quarter years. 41

November 19, 1975 Tnpe No. 14 RH - 1 ns we nll are 1 plensed, and deeply pleased, by the success of the honourable lady. the Member for St. Georges. As the Leader of the Opposition has said, she is the second woman ever to sit in this Chamber. The first was Lndy Squires, who \>as a dear friend of mine as her husband was, a dear friend indeed. Lady Squires was elected. And I am rather proud of the fact that the only two women that have ever been in here as members were in here as Liberals and were elected as Liberals.

But I am heartily .'lshamed of the fact that the Liberal Party in its day did not hring woman suffrage to Newfoundland. It was the one great mistake they made in the history of political reform. They did not bring woman suffrage. But in spite of that the only two women that have ever been here have come in here under the Liberal banner. Of course, I congratulate my three colleagues here. But I have to say that the election had some sad results, sad for me. The defeat of Bren Power- I think he ~auld have been an excellent addition, probably as good as the honourable gentleman, the minister who was elected.

However, only one is allowed from that constituency. Bob Lewis would have brought something to this Chamber but he did not make it and my honourable friend from that constituency was re-elected, I am terribly sorry that Graham Woods was not elected on the Liberal ticket, Liberal Party ticket in one of the St. John's constituencies. The House loses something by his defeat. I do not begrudge the honourable gentleman who did get elected. t cannot identify him to be honest with you. I am just sorry that Graham Woods was defeated. I am terribly sorry that Gerald Panting was defeated, He ran on the N.n.P. ticket.

And I believe, I verily believe that here in this Chamber Gerald Panting would have brought something that perhaps no one else will bring to the deliberations in thts Chamber. I am sorry he is not here. I am sorry that Hugh Shea did not make it. I am sorry that young - MR. NEARY: What about Tom Burgess1 HR. SHALI.WOOD: Yea, if he had only got here and sat here beside the honourable member for LaPoile life would never be the same again. 42

November 19, 1975 Tape No. 14 RH - 2 nm sorry that young Ken Carew, tYenty, twenty-one, did not make it though I do not begrudge the honourable gentleman his seat who did make it, I am sorry that John Devereaux is not here, though, of course, if he were then my honourable friend the minister would not be here. But John nevereaux is a loss to this Province, to this House. Robert Field; the ~inister of Justice is privately congratulating everybody concerned that Rohert Field was not sent here. William Brown, John Wiseman - a distinct loss to this House. I hope one day he will be here.

And loss of losses, Geoff Sterling. SOHE HON, MEMBERS: Oh, oh! 'ffi. SPEAKER: Order, order! MR. SMALLWOOD: What a House this would be, what a Chamber this would be, what new life and vitality Geoff Sterling could have brought in here. This House has lost severely indeed. Well, while I am on this theme, will you permit me to say it, Hr. Speaker, that as r signed the role this morning and took the oath how much T miss some of the fine men that sat in this House with me, Doctor Jim McGrath, whose name was mentioned, a dear, dear friend of mine; Leslie R.. Curtis, Philip J, Lewis, Doctor Alain Frecker, W, J.

E.eough, Charles H. Ballam, W. R. Callahan, George Mackinson, Alec Moores, Max Lane, Gerald Hill, Gregory Power, James R. Chalker, Steve Smith - splendid men, splendid Newfoundlanders - and Hermnn Quinton and Reg Sparks and John P. Courage and George Clarke and Llewellyn Strange and Josh O'Dr!scon and W, r.. Adams, Charles R. Granger, Nathaniel Noel - good Ne-vfottn wders, all- E.P. Spencer, Roland Starkes, John T.

Cheeseman, Beaton Ahhott, Rupert Bartlett, John Mahoney, Aiden Maloney, most of them here tvPlve, fifteen, eighteen, even as much as twenty years in thls House, all of them my friends and supporters. nne of them became a senator. Six went to the bench. Two of those from the bench were here today in the House. One is Chancellor of the University, and twelve are gone to their last great reward. 43

November 19, 1975 Tape 15 PK- 1 In all of these years I was fortunate in most of the men I had with me, and 1 had a total in those twenty-three years of three-quarters of a hundred different individuals, many of them being sent here four, five, six and seven times in as many general elections. Before I go further may I say a word to the bon. the Premier, a word of appreciation for his gracious kindness in providing me with an office here in this building. I am grateful.

At the same time I avail myself of this first opportunity I havehad in this Chamber to congratulate the government on the really splendid way, I was really delighted and proud, and,if I may say so,grateful for the splendid way in which they organi:ted the celebrations of the Twenty-Fifth Anniversary of Confederation. And, Mr.(the man from Harbour Grace who vas head of it) - Mr. Nuthpern. Mr.

Nutbeem did a magnificent job, and I think Newfoundlanders should be long grateful,certainly Confederates should be long grateful and, of course, the bon. the Premier was, I helieve}a Confederate, and 1 believe his father was a very ardent Confederate and friend and supporter of mine. Now, Mr. Speaker, we in the Liberal Reform Party have started off this first sitting of the first session of the Thirty-seventh General Assembly vith around 600 questions that we have addressed to the Premier and some of his ministers. We will have a good many more.

May I say to the government that we know very well from past experience that the information that we have requested in those 600 questions is not going to be given to us 1 n the ne:.ct fev days. Some of it will not come to us for a few weeks, tel of course the ministers and their deputies and staff have lots of other work to do. That is why we are putting our questions in good and early to make sure that we get the nnsl<lers. May I suggest to the Premier that every answer given by him and his ministers he published in the daily Hansard. MR. NEAR~: They are.

HR. _SHALL\,JOOD: Well I am glad to hear that because this would make - this will make Hansard one of the most valuable publications in all our history, even more valuable than than the six volumes with which I have 44

Novemb~r 19, 197~ Tape 15 PK - 2 been connected LJr Speaker, the Premier told his friends <tt the recent Tory Convention in St. John's on Saturday nif!ht that Newfoundland is no Jonp,er a Liheral Province. He based his statement of course on the fact that he still sits on Your Honour's left, while we Liberals sit on Your Honour's right. Well it so happens that I agree with him. thour,h not for the same reasons. For, of course, the Premier could just a~ truthfully have reminded his friends Saturday night. if they needed reminding that Newfoundland iB not a Tory Province either.

How could it be, when in fact we Liberals on thill 11driP of the House received more votes from the Nevfoundland people than did all of those on that side. This is the first minority government Newfoundland has had in seventy-five years. The hon. the Premier might reflect on that. He has the honour of being Leader of the first minority government in Newfoundland's history in three-quarters of a century. When Adam delved~ and Eve span. I Who then the gentleman?" Whnt is this Province,Liberal or Tory?

When more Newfound­ landers vote Liberal than vote Tory. it is certainly not a Tory Province although indeed this may be a Tory House. And in passing it is not to be forgotten that well over one-quarter of all the members of this General Assembly are here as representatives not of a majority of the Newfoundlanders in their respective districts, but a minority­ one-quarter of us. The truth, Mr.

Speaker, and bitter truth it is, is. that the general election on September 16 was not decided by Llhe-raJ s voting as Liberals for Liberal or Liberal Reform. or Independent Lihf't That i' old-time nndidates or by Tories voting as Tories for Tory candidates. ot how the election was decided. A few did, of course, old-timers, '·,~ral s and old-time Tories. 45

November 19, 1975 Tape no. 16 Page 1 - mv But the great majority of Newfoundlanders voted on other grounds altogether. Some wanted the administration led by my hon. friend the Premier returned to power, some did not. Some wanted my hon, friend the lender of the Liberal Party to become Premier, some did not. Some wanted this or that popular candidate to be their member, while some did not. Some voted on purely local issues, some on much larger issues; personalities, not principles; faces, not philosophy; pressures. not platforms; life~long habits of people whose lives were somewhat long, all kinds of reasons and motives. But I suspect that for the greater

part it was only the NDP vote that was cast on the basis of political ideas, political ideology, political philosophy. A storm that, Mr. Speaker, no bigger than a man's hand, but keep a sharp eye on it. Let the Tory Party be truly Tory, the Liberal Party truly Liberal and then maybe the Liberal Party will not disappear almost from the face of the earth in Newfoundland as it has largely and lamentably done in England and in all but three of Canada's provinces, in one of which it recently lost the proud position of opposition.

It fell from opposition to a state below that,and lost it to the NDP, as the Liberals in Britain lost it and lost everything to Britain's NDP, which is called the Labour Party. For most people today, Mr. Speakert the names or titles Liberal and Tory mean almost nothing, They are just tags. just labels. just historical survivals. The parties could almost as well be called, number ten, number twenty, or now and thentor out and in, The words Liberal and Tory in the minds o£ most people no longer conjure up a philosophy, a way of thought or a system of politics.

No longer do the people instinctively turn to the Liberal Party as the party of the common people and away from the Tory Party as the Merchant Party, the Water Street Party. It _just is not like that any more. In political philosophy the difference today between the Liberal Party and the Tory Party is insignificant. Most candidates of both parties are common people. Socially, financially, they are almost identical, much of a 46

November 19, 1975 Tape no. 16 Page 2 muchness. In personal capacity, education, skill, there is precious little to choose between them in their approach to the day~to~day problems of government they are twins -roads. pavi.ng, water and sewerage, hospitals, doctors, nurses, civil servants, town councils, income tax, schools, industrial development, 200 mile limit, offshore mineral rights, guidelines. You would need a good microscope to see nny difference between the two parties on these issues. The Liberal Party is opposed to the school tax,as I am.

That is one difference~ hut is that enough to justify the existence of two separate, expensive, competing political parties? Is that enough difference? Approximately equal in patriotism, in personal capacity, in political philosophy, in attitude, to day-to-day governmental problems as they are on both sides. It is the simple unadorned truth today that those two historic parties if they continue to be so very similar, almost identical, might as well amalgamate and become one party. But is there an alternative to such a calamity?

Does the historic Liberal Party have to disappear into the Tory Party and the historic Tory Party disappear into the Liberal Party and the two become an aaalgam,bland and undistinguished and undistinguishable. If the Tory Party refuses to become once again truly and genuinely Tory, why should not the Liberal Party become once again truly and genuinely Liberal? To become truly and genuinely Liberal by adopting Liberalism, adopting it ardently, unashamedly, proudly, the short form 47

November 19. 1975 Tape No. 17 IB-l of the word Liber<:~l ism is reform. Reform was the original name of the p.1rty. The Liberals were not knovn as Liberals at first. That name ~as a later innovation. Liberals were known as reformers, only subsequently as Liberals, fairly recently. But never did the word reform disappear from the dynamics of Liberalism. The biggest Liberal club fn C:anadn is still called the Reform Club. Never did the philosophy of reform disappear from Liberalism in theory or in practice.

Indeed the history of reform in England. in Canada, in Newfoundland, is the history of Liberalism, and the history of Liberalism is the history of reform. wnen reform goes out of the Liberal Party what you have left is something but it is not Liberalism. I have been a Liberal all my life, my long life,and a Liberal I shall live and die. My greatest remaining ambition is to see the Liberal Party become again the ardent, sincere, crusading instrument and weapon of true Liberalism and I have the ambition to help make it so. Mr.

Speaker, the moment has not yet come when people in Newfoundland hurst out laughing at public men calling themselves l.iheral or Tory. It is rather remarkable that they have not. In the last House in n total of forty-two members some thirty-one of them sat on Hr. Spenker Russell's left. That is the government, the Tory Government so~callecl. But look closely, Mr. Speaker, at those thirty-one vho sat over there. Sixteen of them were Liberals. Exactly one-half the Tories, one-half of the thirty-one Tories, thirty­ two Tories over there in the last House were Liberals, :i.n fact, Liberals very thinly disguised.

What we saw for the last four years lotas the capture of the Tory Party by Liberals. One of them, the present Minister of Mines and Energy, the "Cromwell" of the present government, the strong man, vas a three vay Liberal. For he had sat in this House as a Liberal, then as an Independent Liberal, then ns a Reform Liberal before becoming a Tory. That is if indeed he ever did become a Tory. Actually I hnve recollection of his making puhlic remarks despistng the whole 48

Novemher 19. 1975 Tape No. 17 IB-2 idea of members calling themselves Liberal or Tory or anything else. and perhaps he spoke better than he knew, better anyway than l knew at that time. Look closely at those twenty-nine members, ~r. Speaker, on Your Honour's left here today. Look closely at them, twenty­ nine alleged Tories that form or support the present so-called Tory Government. Look closely at them and you are left with twelve Liberals. Now, sitting over there now, twelve of twenty-nine, again nearly half of those serried ranks of pseudo Tories, imitation Tories, pretending Tories. Mr.

Speaker, I believe that of all the mistakes that have been made. ever made by a Newfoundland government in the past 143 years. the greatest mistake, the most colossal blunder was the present admintstration 1 s nationalization of Churchill Falls. I said so at the time and what I said was loud and clear. The only other Newfoundlander who denounced that blunder publicly was Mr. Andrew Crosbie. 1 did not hear him myself but he tells me that he did so. that he did so publicly on television and radio. Newfoundland has paid dearly for that mistake and will pay much more dearly yet, mark my words.

I believe that it was a blunder to nationalize the linerboard paper mill at Stephenville. I believe it was a blunder to nationalize the frozen fish plant at Burgeo. I think it would be a utterly fatal blunder to nationalize Come By Chance. 49

NovPmber 19, 1975 Tape No. 18 NM- 1 PR. SPAJ,LWOOD: We have a public debt today. direct and indirect, of $1.6 hillian, $1,600 million. lt iH costing us nov $100 million a yedr ju5t to service that debt. That is $185 a year for every soul in the Province 1 or $700 a year for every family in the Province just to service the debt, just to pay that $100 million a year and that $100 million n year becol'!!es $1 billion every ten years. We had hetter watch out, ~r. Speaker, we had better watch out! Hr.

Speaker, t have to sayjand sorry I am that I have to say it< that I believe our Province is in a bad vay, bad financially, bad economically. While I agree that this condition of our Province is at least partly caused by a country-wide, indeed vorld-vide state of affairs, I am quite sure that our own Newfoundland condition is very largely brought on ourselves by our own doing.

If no guidelines had ever been heard of, if Prime Minister Trudeau had not opened his mouth, if no programme of belt tightening had been announced by Ottawa, Newfoundland was in any case under dire and urgent necessity to retrench, to economize, to pull in the belt violently, to stop or at any rate drastically reduce borrowing, to have three or four years of painful austerity.

T say painful not in the literal sense and not really that I think it would be too terribly painful, but only in the sense that the high,wide and handsome expansion of the past quarter of a century, beginning with Confederation, must now stop for a period whether we like it or not, whether the public likes it or not, whether the government likes it or not, whether we Liberals over here like it or not, this has got to stop for two years, three years. I W( 'd not say as many as five, not fewer than two, probably not more tkm three or four years.

We have got to bring ourselves us by a round turn and the Premier has got to show a degree and a quality of courage as a Newfoundlander, as Leader of an Administration, t.eader of the Queen's Government in this Province, the Premier has got to display a degree and quality of courage, of fearlessness, the kind of fearlessness that a man would have if he says, "Well I have been elected now, this is three times, or twice directly elected and I will be here for three or four years and maybe I will go out and never even ask to be elected again and so I do not 50

November 19. 1975 Tape No. 18 NM - 2 care. r am going to do what needs to be done." And what needs to be be done, ~r. Speaker, is the most drastic effort to be made to get Newfoundland on an even keel again because we are in a mast precarious condition with a debt that is enough to chill your blood, $1.6 billion, direct and indirect debt, $1,600 million, costing us $100 million a year, The first year I was Premier the whole budget was $35 million for everything under the sun - $35 million the first year of Confederation, Today it is $100 million just to service the public debt and our budget in the last budget was $1,000 million, $1 billion budget. There is not 51

Novemher 19, 1975. Tape No, 19 RH - 1 goiHR to he a hill Jon dollar hudget now, Mr. Speaker. I say to the Premier when the next budget comes ~ $700 million. $750 million? He said himself the other day on T.V. that he would have to lop, this House will have to lop, led by the government to do it, lop $100 mi!Hon or $150 million off. Not enough, Hr.

Speaker, not enough. $200 million, $250 million and the people of the Province had just as well know it, that the wide. high, handsome programme of road buildinp,, paving, water and severage, hospital construction, all kinds of goodies, all kinds of good things, that has to stop, not perhaps completely but abruptly and drastically so that the Premier and his colleagues, especially vith his Cromwellian colleague, the strong man will get things in balance once again. I believe that every member of this House on both sides will back the Premier. I pledge my support.

My colleagues have authorized me to pledge their support. There are only four of us, and the day may come when the Premier will be glad to have the support of we four herP - we will see what happens in the next year or two over there - to pet the Province on an even keel again. This is no time to play partisan rolitics. You see, Newfoundland cannot afford it. Neither inside nor outside this House should there be the least hesitation to back. support every fair and practical step proposed by the government to insure the solvency of the Province.

We must assume a strong and determined desire on the government's part to get Newfoundland financially on an even keel and we must assume a determined intention on their part to do it. We must assume that they <J((i moved not by partisan but only decc,Jt 1 patriotic motives. Given that determination on their part and that motivation 'We on this side of the House,and I believe the Newfoundland pcople,dare not withhold our glad and willing support.

So if the Premier never had support before it is offered to him now to do what he knows in his heart must be done and what evt>ry mlnister of the Crown knows must be done and perhaps most of 52

November 19, 1975. Tape No. 19 RH - 2 the private members on the other side know must be done and an increasing number of people, a widening circle of our Newfoundland popuL1tion realize must be done. So, let UG have it Mr. -"Frank". MR. SPEAKER: The hnn. the Premier. PREMIER F.D. MOORES: Mr. Speaker, first of all.

Sir, I would like to join the Leader of the Opposition and the honourable Member from Twillingate in congratulating you - I am speaking for all members on the government side, and once again for all members of the House­ in being elevated to a position which 1 think is going to be of critical importance to the future affairs of this Province and of this legislature. 1. Sir, pass on my congratulations as I do to the Member from Nasknupi (Mr. Joe Goudie) who proposed the motion today. The Hember from N"askaupi (Mr. J. Goudie) was a person 1 met .1ust a few years ago.

He is a person I have come to know to represent the finer things a.bout the native people of Labrador, If there is anyone who illustrates it better than he himself is a person I also met at that time who I had the pleasure to be with in Cornor Brook last week and who I see in the gallery 53

Novrmher 19, 1975 Tape No. 20 IB-1 today, a living example of what determination, courage can do in the progression of any family, and that is his mother, Mrs. C.oud:.t.e. I would also like to congratulate the member for Placentia, from n district that has traditions in this Province which we all know, and his seconding this motion, I think, was appropriate today. Sir, first of all T would also like to welcome the clergy who are here today, distinguished persons from state, especially at this critical time in our history.

Host particularly I would like to refer back to what the Leader of the Opposition said when he mentioned the congratulations to the most Reverend the Archbishop Seaborn in his appointment, elevation to Hetropolitan of the Ecclesiastical Province of Canada. This will be in the form of a formal motion which I will only too gladly make on the next sitting day of the House. Sir, as has heen mentioned in some detail by the bon. memhcr for Twillingate, there has been some seating rearranged in the House since the last time we were here. There are some new faces, some familiar faces back again.

The responsibility is probably greater this time than ever before. I can not help, Sir~ but reply to the Leader of the Opposition when he says that we hnve the 1 owest percentage of any government in Newfoundland's history - I think that is rir,ht. It is approximately six per cent greater than the Prime Minister of Canada's and his party's. We also have four parties plus the distinguished gentleman from LaPoile. That being the case, I think, Sir, the percentage of the vote speaks for itself.

I would also like to comment, of course, before getting f.nto the meat of what I want to say, on the remarks of the hon. memher for Twilli.ngate. I l.l'aS delighted to hear the review of the philosophy and the problems of the Liberal Party as I am sure everyone here was. I appreciate, Si.r, your astuteness out of office and particularly appreciate your support for us in office, 1 think, Mr. Speaker, he may really be a Tory at heart. I never realized, Sir, that there were so many Liberals 54

November 19, 1975 Tape No. 20 TB-2 scattered so far afield ns there are in this small assembly until today. The fact is, Sir, that I was a little nervous when the hon. me-mher for Twillingate (Mr. Sma:Hwood) spoke about your very circuitous route getting to the Chair because whilst his was probably just as circuitous, it was no less spectacular. Equally, Sir, the member for Henihek (Mr. Rousseau) must have been in somewhat of a worry for a while being such an ardent Liberal but then again, Sir, so was the hon. member for Twillingate (Mr.

Smallwood) at one time. 1 am sorry that like the hon. member for Twillingate (Mr. Smallwood) there were so many people defeated. I am also very happy that there were so many people elected. Particularly, Sir, 1 dirl not feel his degree of being upset about Jonathan Livingston Seagull or? 1 am sorry, Mr. Sterling from Carbonear, because even thm1gh 1 Sir, this House is open for several hours a day, too many late shows in a row with the rest of our responsibilities I think would be a bit heavy. The fact is, Sir, that it is with a feeling of deep commitment that I arise and address this han. Bouse this afternoon.

Translated into words, this commitment is to our Province and to enacting in the weeks ahead the best possible measures to deal with our current economic situation. The decisions which will be made in this chamber are critical to each and every Newfoundlander and Labradorian. With this in mind, this bon. House must act with courage and wisdom in its decision making role. ~'r. Speaker, I have listened attentively to the hon. Leattf'r of the Opposition and to the hon. Leader of the Liberal Refonn Party P·fr.

Smallwood) and 1 wish to say that my government vel comes their views, particularly their constructive opinions during debates on the matters presented in this House. I know that the support of all members tsi.ll be forthcoming i.f reason and logic is applied. Tn fact, every 55

November 19, 1975 Tape No. 21 NM- 1 HR. MOORES: member of this honourable House will undoubtedly play his or her

part in the crucial discussions that will take place as we wrestle with the problema of the day. I am optimistic that the debate we will be entering into will be germane for 1 think we all know the gravity of the situation and it is our first responsibility to tackle the problems head-on, not with political f anLHe but with intelligent comment. We must never forget that we are here as representatives of all the people of Newfoundland and Labrador and they have placed their faith in us, in us the elected members.

People today want some answers and will not be satisfied with parliamentary gamesmanship for its sake alone. Thus in'our deliberations as we express our own views and the views of those we represent let us do so in a manner befitting this bon. Rouse and in turn the people who elected us. It is critical, Mr. Speaker, that we do not tarry for this is a time of reckoning for Newfoundland and Labrador. The Speech from the Throne ably outlines some of the many programmes my government has undertaken over the past four years and explained as well some of the many plans ve have for the coming year.

I am proud of our record and of my colleagues who have worked so hard to maintain economic and social order in Newfoundland and Labrador. But having achieved order ve are now faced with combating inflation for it has reared its ugly head and threatens the very fibre of the economic life of our community in this Province and in the Canadian nation and for that matter, Sir, in the world community. It is not an 0asy thing to overcome as we are learning every day of our lives.

It took ye?rs for inflation to overtake us in Canada, it will take considerable time for us to control it and virtun.lly every country in the world is learning this. We are not alone in our crusade. It involves the whole human race and we l<fill win the fight eventually, but not, and 1 repeat, Sir, not vithout considerable restraint and sacrifice on the part of evrry individual in our society.

It reminds one I suppose of the words of Churchill when he addressed the Canadian House of Commons, 11 We have not journeyed all this way across the centuries, across the oceans, across the mountains, across the Prairies because we nre made of sugar candy." 56

November 19. 19i5 Tape No. 21 NM- 2 MR. f-IOORES! Indeed, Hr. Speaker, we in this Province could never be accused of having the soft life in our heritage and that is why we will do what is necessary to wage wnr on the inflation that is eating into our economic life. Newfoundland and Labrador has seen far worst days than the present~and we have survived and we have prospered. The struggle against adversity is not new to our people. For centuries adversity is all our people knew. It ts in our make up to battle the odds and to come out ahead.

Our history is full of examples of this and I feel that Newfoundlanders and Labradorians of today will face the challenge with equal strength of purpose, My government and indeed this bon. House of Assembly can only show the way through wise legislation and proper guidelines. Then it is up to the different segments of society and to the individual to augment our efforts as best they can. This must be an era of co-operation, co-operation amongst government, business and labour, amongst professional and non-professional groups alike, amongst the people in general.

We have to want to co-op~rate for the secret of success is constancy to purpose. ~r. Speaker, Neqfoundland and Labrador cannot afford any less of an effort hy our people. My government's ne¥1 programmes as outlined in the Throne Speech will set the direction of our particular efforts. The emphasis must be on resource development and job creation with limits placed on public spending. At the same time we are initiating nf!:v projects geared to challenge the initiative of our people and to stimulnte the work ethic in our people.

It can so easily be lost in our lH•nd it filled society ~and this is not what we have struggled to be, Hr. Yet this ,~aker~ a pl•ce where the handout has replaced hard work. 57

November 19, 1975 Tape 22 PK - 1 is ~hat we were fast becoming until the economy could stand no more of our excesses and succumbed to the inflation which we have today. 1 am confident that the people of this Province what to shed the yoke of dependency on government that it has become all too much a part of our way of life, and my government has committed to acting in this regnrd. Mr. Speaker, I suppose for the last t~enty-five years the principle of work as we kne~ it for so long has slowly but surely been wavering to the point where it is not as we once knew it. We live in a world of difficult times.

We live in a world, as the Prime Hinister of Canada said,~here expectations are our right 1 where we had to have a wrenching re-adjustment to accept the fact that today thinRs are not as good as we always thought or accepted they would be. t.Je have got to come to the realization that we as a people must live within our means and not always for governments to encourage,to aid and abet excessive spending or excessive expectations. The agreement we will be signing with Ottawa. Mr.

Speaker, even though '--"<' may say that it is not necessarily the best way to fight inflation 1 the fact is that now that the federal government has taken the lead it is the only option that the provinces of Canada have available, and that agreement will be put before this House for the agreement or not of all members in it. Mr. Speaker, in the area of services to meet the health, educational and other needs of the people of Ne~foundland and Labrador~my government's plans will augment the progress we have already made over the past four years.

There will not be lavish spending in these areas, but the needs will be met in the social and other fields where people's well-being is concerned. As we are forced to limit the growth of public spending the expansion of these services uill be kept in line for we must combat inflation at every possible turn. It is not an ideal situation either in which to govern or to be governed but reality must be met. We want to be fair and just in what We do, and we will seek the guidance of this hon. House and all those in it as we proceed. Ideally, Mr.

Speaker, nothing would please us more today than to see every Newfoundlander and 58

Novermher 19, 1975 Tape 22 PK - 2 Lnhradodan with n high standard of living and the best possible quality of life, but Rome was not built in a day and neither will our Province he economically secure without the actions we shall be taking including legislative controls where necessary. We are working towards the ideal l'owever with all of our energies tor we know the future is ours with the proper management of our Province. Hr.

Speaker. a tremendous amount has been done in the past twenty-six years regarding the expansion of services in our Province, the upgrading of services, but the fact is that service and social programmes now will have to be deferred in the main. There will have to be a cut-back on spending by government that will mean freezes on hiring, it will mean less travel, it will mean the fact that government today must put its priorities and money spend into the areas ~here it ib most essential, and in our opinion that is in resource development.

The Leader of the Opposition mentioned that government spending, the Ottawa policy, this should not affect spending of this nature. I disagree absolutely, Hr. Speaker, because if we expect unions and management to be guided by the guidelines that are going to be laid down by the federal government we in government, both provincially and federally, must show the example of curtailing excess of spending and expectations because, Sir, I say that no group in Canada or anywhere else has been more responsible for the excesses in spending and the excesses of expectation more than government itself.

Sir, housing, food, clothing, shelter these are the major emphasis that we still have to be concerned about. We must also be concernPd, Sir, that in the years ahead we preserve the quality of life we have in this Province. We have a quality of life now and we will in the future that is unique by North American standards. We have small communities all around our coast where the way of life is still unique compared to most places in this world.

The fact is that it is almost an advantage that we at this time have to face reality, and reality we have to face. but is it not better to face it now when ue can do something about it than to take the extreme example of the people of New York who today,even if they wanted to face it,cannot. 59

November 19, 1975 Tape 22 PK - 3 They have no escape, they are locked in, they have an environment that they can never change. They cannot go to a garden plot and grow vegetables if food is expensive. They cannot raise cattle. They cannot do any of these things. They must go through the strict routine that that sort of society dictates in that they will never be able to change. We are very fortunate, 60

November 19, 1975. Tape 23 RH - I Hr. Speaker, in this Province that that is not the case. We still have the opportunity for values and the establishment of values and the appreciation of values. Mr. Speaker, proper management,as this House knows. revolves around the development of our resource-based industries. And this development is the key to the overcoming, not only of our economi.c problems but along with that our unemployment si.tUation. My government is committed to this and will not he deterred.

My government, Sir, through the Speech from the Throne discussed our natural resources in some detail and outlined our approach to their future development. There will be other ways and means consi