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.,. INDEX OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA STANDING and - SPECIAL COMMITTEES - 36 Elizabeth II, 1987 Second Session - Thirty-Third Legislature which opened the 26th of February, 1987 and prorogued by proclamation the 10th of February, 1988 Volume XXXV Published under the euthority of the Honourable M. Phillips, Speeker. Printed by the Office of the OuBBns Printer, Province of Manitoba

TABLE OF CONTENTS Legislative Assembly of Manitoba STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES Second Session - Thirty-Third Legislature Table of Contents ......................................................................................................... i Agriculture ........................................................................................... ........................ 1 Economic Development .............................................................................................. 2 Industrial Relations..................................................................................................... 3 Municipal Affairs.................................................. ....................................................... 4 Private Bills................................................................................................................. 5 Privileges and Elections............................................................................................. 6 Public Accounts.......................................................................................................... 7 Public Utilities and Natural Resources ....... ... ... .... ................. ........ ... ........... ............. 8 St atutory Regulations and Orders ................... ... ... .................. .... ... .......................... 9

MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Third Legislature Members, Constituencies and Political Affiliation NAM E ASHTON, Steve BAKER, Clarence BlAT, Charles T. BLAKE, David A. (Dave) BROWN, Arnold BUCKLASCHUK, Hon. John M. CARSTAIRS, Sharon CONNERY, Edward J. COWAN, Hon. Jay CUMMINGS, J. Glen DERKACH, Len DESJARDINS, Hon. Laurent L. DOER, Hon. Gary DOLIN, Marty DOWNEY, James E. DREDGER, Albert DUCHARME, Gerry ENNS, HarrJ J. ERNST, Jim EVANS, Hon. Leonard S. FILMON, Gary FINDLAY, Glen II. HAMMOND, Gerrie HARAPIAK, Hon. Harry II. HARAPIAK, Hon. Leonard E. HARPER, Hon. EUjah HEMPHILL, Hon. Maureen JOHNSTON, J.

Frank KOSTYRA, Hon. Eugene KOVNATS, Abe LECUYER,Hon.Gjnud MACKLING, Q.C., Hon. AI IIIAI.OWAY, Jim IIANNE SS, ClaJton McCRAE, James C. MERCIER, Q.C., G.M.J. (Gerry) MITCHELSON, Bonnie �N,Rurik (R�) OLESON, Charlotte L. ORCHARD, Donald W PANKRATZ, Helmut PARAStUK, Hon. Wilson PAWLEY, Q.C., Hon. Howard A. PENNER, Q.C., Hon. Roland PHtLUPS, Hon.llyma A. PI.OHIIAN, Hon. John ROCAN, C. Denis AOCH, Gillee (GU) SANTOS, Conrad SCHROEDER, Q.C., Hon. V"ICtor SCOTT, Don SMITH, Harvey SMITH, Hon. Muriel STORtE, Hon. Jeny T. URUSKI, Hon. Bill WALDING, D, Jamea WASYLYCIA-LEIS, Hon.

Judy CONSTITUENCY Thompson Lac du Bonnet Fort Garry Minnedosa Rhineland Gimli River Heights Portage Ia Prairie Churchill Ste. Rose Roblin- Russell St. Boniface Concordia Kildonan Arthur Emerson Riel Lakeside Charleswood Brandon East Tuxedo Virden Kirldield Park The Pas Swan River Rupertsland Logan Sturgeon Creek Seven Oaks Niakwa Radisson St. James Elmwood Morris Brandon West St. Norbert River East Assiniboia Gladstone Pembina La Verendrye Transcona Selkirk Fort Rouge Wolseley Dauphin Turtle Mountain Springfield Burrows Rossmere Inkster Ellice Osborne Flin Flon Interlake St. Vital St.

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SIT TIN G THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE CHAIRMAN Mr. C. Baker, M.L.A. Constituency of Lac du Bonnet TIME DAY DATE LOCATION 10:00 a. m. Tuesday 7 July, 1987 Winnipeg BILLS, CONSIDERAnON OF Milk Prices Review Act PAGES 1 - 22

An Act to amend The (Bill 14) ................................................................................•..................... Crop Insurance Act The (Bill 15)...... ............................... ........ ............................... ........ ........ ..... ......... ........ ........ .... ..... 11 Animal Husbandry Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 41) ..... ............ ....... ......... ......... ..... ............ ............... ............. ............. 15 BRIEFS, PRESENTAnON OF Milk Prices Review Act,

An Act to amend The (BiH 14) Bruce, Archie - Manco Dairies ........ ....... ...... .............. ....... ..... .............. ....... ...................... .............. .. 1 Gadora, Mike - People's Cooperative Ltd .. ....... ... ....... .......... .. ... . · ......... ....... .. ........ .. .......... .. .. .......... 3 Finnie, Craig - Manitoba Milk Producers' Marketing Board ..... ...... .......... ....... ......... ......... .... .. ...... 8 1

SITTING 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAIRMAN Mr. C. Santos, M.L.A. Constituency of Burrows TIME DAY DATE LOCATION 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 21 April, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 28 April, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 5 May, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 7 May, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 14 May, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 23 June, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m.

Tuesday 14 July, 1987 Winnipeg REPORTS, CONSIDERATION OF PAGES 1 - 19 20 - 41 42 - 64 65 - 77 78 - 94 95 - 104 105 - 122 Channel Area Loggers Ltd., Annual Report................ ................................................................... 36 Kemp, George - Manager.................................................. ... ....................................................... 36 Trithart, Gordon P.-Secretary-Treasurer ... ...................................... ............................................ 37 Communities Economic Development Fund, Annual Report. ............................................... 20, 105 Bruce, Ms.

Bernice - Chairpers on..................................... ................ .................... ................ ...... 20 Jones, H.- General Manager .................... .......................... ....... .......... ................................ 21, 105 Flyer Industries Limited, Annual Report ...... ...................... .... ......................................................... 66 Jones, Hugh - Chairman.................................. ..................................... ....................................... 66 Manfor Ltd, Annual Report....... ............................................................. ......................................... 78 Harvey, Murray 0.- Chairman of the Board ........ ......................................................... ....... ....... 78 Manitoba Development Corporation, Annual Report .. .. . .. . . .. . .. . . . .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . ...... ...... ...... .... ... .... 65 Jones, Hugh - Chairman and General Manager............................... ......................................... 65 Goodwin, Greg.- Ass't General Manager ................... ............................... ................ ............. .... 68 Manitoba Mineral Resources Ltd., Annual Report .................................. ..... ................................... 1 Brockington, P.R.- Chairperson .................................. ................................ ........ .................. ......... 1 Wright, C.

Malcolm - President ................... ...................................................... ................ ............ 2 Manitoba Oil and Gas Corporation, Annual Report ..................................... ............. ...................... 6 Silver, Robert M.- Chairperson of the Board ............. ............................... ................................... 7 Sadler, John R.- President ......................... .......... ........................................................................ 12 A.E. McKenzie Seeds Co.

Ltd., Auditor's Report ......................................... ........................... 42, 95 Kives, Ray mond - Chairman of the Board . ... . . . .. . .. ... ... . .. ... . .. . .. . . .. . . .. . . . . .. . .. . . .. . . . .. ... ... . ... . .. . ... ... ..... 42 Guelpa, Keith - President .............................................. .... ...................................... .............. 42, 96 Robinson, Ken - Vice-President of Finance.. .......................... ............................... ..... ............... 62 McCrae, J.- MLA for Brandon West .......... ...................................................................... ........... 96 Kovnats, A.- MLA for Niakwa ................................. .. .................................. ................................. 98 Moose Lake Loggers Ltd., Annual Report ..... ................................................................................ 39 Jones, Clement - President ... .. . . . . . ... .... ... ... ... ... ..... .. .... ... ... ... . . . ..... .. . . . . . . . ... . .. . ... . .... .. . ... .... ... ... . ... . ... 39 Kivisto, R.J.- General Manager .................................................................. ................................. 40 William Clare (Manitoba) Limited, Annual Report .. ...................................... ................. ................ 65 Jones, Hugh - Chairman............................................................................. ................................. 65 2

SITTING 1 2 3 THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON INDUST RI AL RELATIONS TIME 8:00 p.m. 8:00 p.m. 8:00 p.m. CHAIRMAN Mr. H. Smith, M.L.A. Constituency of Ellice DAY Tuesday Thursday Thursday DATE 23 June, 1987 25 June, 1987 2 July, 1987 LOCATION Winnipeg Winnipeg Winnipeg BILLS, CONSIDERATION OF Retail Businesses Holiday Closing Act PAGES 1 - 37 38 - 61 62 - 75 The (Bill 32) .............................. ................... .......................................................................... 1, 7, 57 Labour Relations Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 61) ....... .......... ...... ..... ....... .... ............ .... ............ ............ 2, 8, 38, 61, 62 BRIEFS, PRESENTATION OF Retail Businesses Holiday Closing Act,

An Act to amend The (Bill 32) Hull, Bruce - Canadian Federation of Independent Grocers... ..................... ................. ................. 1 James, Rev. Don - East Kildonan Pastors' Fellowship........ .................. .................... ...... ............... 7 Labour Relations Act,

An Act to amend The (Bill 61) Ages, Robert - Machinists Local 484 . ... . .. .... ... .... ... ... . .. . .•. ..... ..... ... ... .... .. . ... . ... .... ...... ....... .. .... .... ..... 41 Blackman, Ed - Canadian Union of Public Employees....... ....... ................ ........ ... ...... .................. 11 Chernecki, Mrs.

Vera - President, Manitoba Organization of Nurses Association ....... .............. 22 Gajdosik, Kam - The Construction Labour Relations Association of Manitoba ...... ..... -.............. 52 Gardner, Bill - Winnipeg Chamber of Commerce... ....... ....... ..... ..... ...... .................... ........... .......... 45 Goldspink, Frank - The Communist Party....... ........... ...... ............. .................... ........... ...... ........... 44 Green, Sidney - Manitoba Progressive Party........ ..... ........... ........ .... ..... ........................ ..... ............ 2 Hudson, Wilfred - Manitoba Federation of Labour........... ........... ............... ........... .......... ............. 15 Lang, John - Confederation of Canadian Unions..... .............. ....... ......... ...... .... ....... ...................... 24 Machan, Douglas - Manitoba Health Organizations Inc. .............. ........... ....... ..... ........... .... .......... 12 Moist, Paul-Canadian Union of Public Employees................. ..................... ...... .... ........ ...... .... ....... 9 Pepper, Miles- Legislative Counsel ............ ........ ............ ............ ...... ............. ......... .... ..... ...... .... ..... 70 Quesnel, Daniel - Private Citizen ........ ........ ............... .... ....................... .................. ......... ............... 39 Raper, Howard - National Representative, Communications and Electrical Workers of Canada.... .... .................. ....... ...... ........ ...... ............. .... .......... ..... ...... ........ ... 55 Rose, Jeff - Canadian Union of Public Employees ........ ............ ..... ............. ....... ......... ..... .............. 8 Samphir, Marvin - City of Winnipeg, Law Department .......... .... ...... .............. ....... .............. ............ 6 Spillett, Ms.

Leslie - International Ladies Garment Workers Union.......... ....... .............. .............. 26 Stevens, Len - United Steel Workers Union. ......... .................. ..... .......... ... ........... ...... .... .......... ..... 27 Tudiver, Professor Neil -University of Manitoba Faculty Association .... ...... .......... ...... .......... ..... 13 Wally, Ron - Manitoba Association of Health Care Professionals........... .............. ...... ............ ..... 38 Zimmer, Bruno - Union of Food and Commercial Workers ......... ...... ....... ....... ................. ..... ....... 33 3

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECIAL COMMITTEES WRITTEN SUBMISSION PRESENTED BUT NOT READ Retail Businesses Holiday Closing Act The (Bill 32) Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties ... ................... ......... ...... ....... ...... ....... ......... ........... 37 4

SITTING 1 2 3 4 5 6 THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS CHAIRMAN Mr. S. Ashton, M.L.A. Constituency of Thompson TIME DAY DATE LOCATION 8:00 p.m. Tuesday 7 April, 1987 Winnipeg 8:00 p.m. Wednesday 8 April, 1987 Winnipeg 8:00 p.m. Thursday 11 June, 1987 Winnipeg 8:00 p.m. Tuesday 7 July, 1987 Winnipeg 8:00 p.m. Thursday 9 July, 1987 Winnipeg 8:00 p.m. Wednesday 15 July, 1987 Winnipeg BILLS, CONSIDERATION OF

An Act respecting Accountability of Crown Corporations and PAGES 1 - 23 24 - 48 49- 69 70 - 103 104 - 135 136 - 192 to amend other Acts in consequence thereof (Bill 58}.............. ..... .... ...... ..... ....... ................... 185 Brandon University Foundation

An Act to Continue (Bill 73) ......... ........ ............................ ..................... ............ ................ ...... .. 193 City of Winnipeg Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 8) ...................... ........ .......................................................................... 1 City of Winnipeg Act

(2) An Act to amend The (Bill 39) ............. .......... .............................. ............................... 98, 104, 128 Discriminatory Business Practices Act The (Bill 25) ............. ..... ................................... ............... .... ........... ..... ....... .......................... 137, 150 Electoral Divisions Act

(2) An Act to amend The (Bill 66) ..................... ...................... ....... ..... .................... ......... ....... ....... 136 Emergency Measures Act The (Bill 6)............................. ........... ..... ....... ......................................................... .... .... ...... .......... 49 Environment Act The (Bill 26) .................... ...... ....... ................... ............................................ ............ ........ 75, 107, 115 High-Level Radiation Waste Act The (Bill 28) .............. ........ ...... .......... .......... ...... ................................... ....... .... ..... ... ............. 142, 151 Highway Traffic Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 23) ............... .................. .............................................. ......... ............ 57 Highway Traffic Act

(2) An Act to amend The (Bill 64) .......... ........ .............. ................ ................. .......... ....................... 130 Highways and Transportation Department Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 12) ...... ........... .............. .................. ............................. .... ....... ..... ...... 56 Municipal Assessment Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 13) ........... ................... ....... .......... .................. ............... ........ .............. 1 Off-Road Vehicles Act The (Bill 67) ............................................... .................... ..................... .... ................. ...... ........ 70, 131 Supply of Natural Gas in Manitoba and to amend The Public Utilities Board Act

An Act to Govern The (Bill 68)........... ................ ...... ............................. ............ ................ 173, 189 Surface Rights Act The (Bill 65) ........ ........ ................... ........... ........ ....... ....... .... ......... ............... .......... ............... 152, 188 Water Resources Administration Act and The Real Property Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 22) ................ .... ......... ............ ....... ......................... ........... .......... 57, 69 5

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECIAL COMMITTEES BRIEFS, PRESENTATION OF City of Winnipeg Act The (Bill 8) Municipal Assessment Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 13) Adamek, Don - St.

Germaine Community Ass'n .................. .............. ......... .............................•.... 16 Bantle, Victor - Private Citizen .. .......... .... .. .. .. .. .... .... .. .... .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .... .. .... .. .... .. .... .. . 31 Boychuk, Nelson - Private Citizen .. .. ...... .... .. ...... .... ...... .. .... .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. 41 Chrol, Zen an - Private Citizen..... ..................... ......... ....... ..... ...... ....... ..................................... ........ 30 Corey, Fred - St.

Germaine Community Ass'n ............... ......... ..... ..... .......... ................... ............... 17 Crozier, Gordon - North Kildonan Citizens ..... ......................... ..... ...... ......... .............. ............... .... 24 Devos, William - Private Citizen....... ...... ................... ............. ........... ............ ....... ..... .... ..... ............ . 36 Fleming, Don - Private Citizen........... ............. ..................... .......................... ....... .......... ....... ..... .... 19 Fossey, Grant, for Gordon Fossey - Private Citizen............... ...... .......... ..... ... .......... ..... ........ ..... ... 37 Glavin, Dr.

Gary - Private Citizen ........ ..... ........ ............. ............... ........ ..... ............... ..... .... ............. 27 Jablonski, Roman - Private Citizen ............. ...... ........................ ..... ........ ....... .... ........ ...... ........... .... 39 Johner, Jarl -Private Citizen........ .... ..... .............. .......... ......... .... ....... ...... ....... ....... .... ......... ............. 39 MacDonald, Harold - City of Winnipeg .......... ..... .............................. .......................... .......... ....... .... 4 Madden, Gerry - Private Citizen .. .. ...... ...... ... ... ...... .... ... .. ...... .. . .. . .... . .. .. . .. .... .. . .. .. ... . .. .... . .. .... .. .. . .... . .. 43 Norrie, William - Mayor, City of Winnipeg.......... ...... ............ ..... ..... ............. ..... ....... .... ........ ......... .... 1 Ritchot, Roger - Private Citizen......... .................. .......... ....... ...... ............. ........... ........ .............. ...... 26 Shapiro, Dr.

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Germaine Community Ass'n ........ ...... .............. ....... ..... ....... .... .......... 12 Smith, Gary - South Charleswood Community Committee....... ........ ............ ........ ................. ...... 34 Stark ell, Raymond - Private Citizen ... .. .... ...... .. .... .. .. .. .. .... .. .... .... ....... ...... ..... ... .... ....... .......... ....... ... 35 Taillieu, Marcel - Private Citizen .. .. . .. . ...... ...... ... .. . .... .. ...... ...... . .. .. .... .... .... .. . .. ... .... .......... .......... ........ 33 Tomlinson, Michael -Private Citizen ........ ...... .................. .......... ...... ..... ........ .......................... ....... 38 Urbanowicz, Marjan - Old Kildonan Residents Ass'n .... ............. .... .... ......... ........... .... .......... ..... ... 20 Wiebe, Mrs.

Lily - Private Citizen ............ ....... .............. ........... ............. ......... ........... ..... .... ............. 40 Emergency Measures Act The (Bill 8) Klapecki, R.-City of Winnipeg........................ ................. .......... ... ..... ........ .... ........... ....... ............... 49 OH-Road Vehicles Act The (Bill 87) Delaine, AI - Sno-Man of Manitoba Inc.............. ............. ...... .... ........... .... ........ .... ...... ................... 70 McKenzie, Dr.

Ken - Manitoba Medical Association....... ...... ... ..................... ................ ........ ........ 73 Environment Act The (Bill 26) Collis, Gordon - Canadian Manufacturers Association......... ....... .............. ...... ........... .... ....... ....... 94 Driedger, H. for lan M.

Rollo - Manitoba Environmental Council............ ...... .......... ......... ......... 114 Eadie, Jae - City of Winnipeg.................... ....................... ........ ....... ....... ........ .... ...... ...... ... ............. 75 Emberley, Kenneth - Crossroads Resource Group and Manitoba Environmental Council...... 110 Hilliard, Rob - Manitoba Federation of Labour.............. .... ............ .......... ...... ..... ........ ...... ........ .. 100 Jarand, Bill - Manitoba Heavy Construction Ass'n ........ .... ........ .... ....... ... ....... .... .... .......... ..... ..... 107 Muldrew, Dennis - The Naturalists Society ..... ................. .... ....... ........... ............. ........ ............... .. 102 Oliver, Bud - Town of Selkirk .... .... .. .. .. ... .. . ...... ...... .... ...... .. .... .. . .. . .. .. ... .. .... .. . .. . ...... .. . .. .......... ... ...... ... 90 Pannell, Brian - Manitoba Environmentalists Inc........... ......... ......... ........ ............ ....... ................... 79 Penner, Jack - Keystone Agricultural Producers Inc. .. .. .. ... .. ...... .. .. .. . .. . .... .. .. .. .. ........ .... . .. ... ... ....... 96 Scarth, Alan - Private Citizen . .. ... ... . ... . . . ... .. . ... .. . .. . ... . .. . . . ... . .. . . . . . . .. . ... . .. . ... . .. . .. . ... ... .... . ... .. . .. . ... ... .. . .. .. 83 Wlchenko, Grant - Private Citizen ................ ...... ........... ....... .... .............................. .......... ............ 107 Yassi, Ms.

Anna-Lee - Manitoba Medical Association ...... ...................... .... ......... ...... ........ ........ ... 99 City of Winnipeg Act

(2) The (Bill 39) Taylor, Reeh - Downtown Winnipeg Association ....... ............... .... .......... ....... ........ ................. 99, 104 Thompson, Ms. Susan - Downtown Business Improvement Zone Task Force ........... ......... ....... 98 6

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECI AL COMMITTEES Discriminatory Business Practices Act The (Bill 25) Matas, David - M.A.R.L. ................................................................................................................ 137 Smordin, Lyle - League for Human Rights of B'nai B'rith ............................ ................. ...... ... .. .. 141 High Level Radioactive Waste Act The (Bill 28) Hancox, Dr.

W.T.- Vice-President Waste Management Atomic Energy of Canada ............ ....... 145 Robbins, Walter - Concerned Citizens of Manitoba............................................... ..................... 142 Ylonen, George - Private Ci tizen, Lac du Bonnet................................ ................... ............... ..... 142 Surface Rights Act The (Bill 65) Brown, Rick - Chevron Canada Resources Limited .. ...... ... ...... ................ ... ..... ..... .... ....... .......... . 167 Douglas, Bob - Keystone Agricultural Producers Inc ....... .. ... ......... ...... .... ......... .... .... ..... ...... .. ..... 170 Frances, Phillip -Private Citizen .... ... ........... .... ... ....... ... ... .... ............... ............. .... ........ ... ...... ........ 161 McNeill, Rene - Manitoba Surface Rights Association .............. ....... ........ ..... .... ... ... ......... .. .... .... 152 Puchniak, Robert - Tundra Oil and Gas........ ............................................................................... 172 Turbak, Adam- Private Citizen .. ...... ........ ....... ... ....... ...... ...... .... ........ .................. ........ ............ ...... 165

An Act to Govern the Supply of Natural Gas in Manitoba and to amend The Public Utilities Board Act (Bill 88) Frew, Craig R.- Vice-President Operations, Western Gas Marketing Ltd. ... .............. .. ...... ...... . 173 Hudson, Wilfred- Manitoba Federation of Labour . .... ... ....... .......... ....... .... .... .. ............... .... ........ 185 Young, Robert A.M.- TransCanada Pipelines.................... .............. ...................................... ....... 173 7

THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON PRIVATE BILLS CHAIRMAN Mr. M. Dolin, II.L.A. Constituency of Klldonan SITIING TIME DAY DATE LOCATION 10:00 a.m. Thursday 9 July, 1987 Winnipeg BILLS, CONSIDERATION OF Municipal Assessment Act

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An Act to amend The (Bill 17) ........................................ .................................... .......................... . "Pine Ridge Golf Club"

An Act to amend

An Act to Incorporate The (Bill 30) ...... ..... .......... ...... .... ......................... ........ 3 By-law No. 3678 of the Rural Municipality of St. Andrews

An Act to validate (Bill 54) ............................................................................................................ 3 Southwood Golf and Country Club

An Act to amend

An Act to Incorporate (Bill 55} ........................................................................ 3 8

SITTING 1 2 3 4 5 6 THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS CHAIRMAN Mr. C. Santos, M.L.A. Constituency of Burrows TIME DAY DATE LOCATION 10:00 a.m. Thursday 9 July, 1987 Winnipeg 7:00 p.m. Thursday 9 July, 1987 Winnipeg 1:00 p.m. Friday 10 July, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Monday 13 July, 1987 Winnipeg 2:30 p.m. Monday 13 July, 1987 Winnipeg 7:00p.m.

Monday 13 July, 1987 Winnipeg BILLS, CONSIDERATION OF Human Rights Code PAGES 1 - 19 20 - 76 77 - 109 110 - 128 129 - 154 154 - 218 The (Bill 47) ............... ..... ... ................ ......... ...... ......... ........ ................ 1, 20, 77, 110, 129, 155, 205 BRIEFS, PRESENTAnON OF Hum.n Rights Code The (Bill 47) Adrien, Mrs.

Dora - Private Citizen........ ....... ............... ...... ............................ .............. ..... ....... .... 198 Adrien, Pastor Ron - Winkler and District Ministerial Ass'n ............ ........ .......... ........... ....... ...... 198 Alexiuk, Len - Private Citizen..... .............. ............ ............. ...... ............ ............ ......... ...... ........ ....... 132 Anderson, Eric - Private Citizen ........ ................... ........... ... ...... ... ........ ........................................... 64 Aquin, Michel - Private Citizen ....... ..... ...... ......... ..... ... ...... .......... ........... ....... ... ....... ........ ..... ...... ..... 67 Armstrong, Mrs.

Nancy - Private Citizen ............... ..... .... ......... ........ ........ ........ ........ ........... ......... 165 Arnold, Abe - Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties....... ............ ..... ........... ....... ........... 32 Backe, Horst - Winnipeg Gay Community Health Centre Inc. ............ ..... ............ ...... ........ ...... .... 46 Balabas, Ms. Judy - Manitoba Teachers' Society .............. ...... ............... ................. .... ........ ......... 51 Barton, Ms.

Mary - Private Citizen .......... .......... ......... ................... ............ .............. ..... ........ ........ 191 Beauchamp, Ms. Debra - Private Citizen .............. ...... ................. ......... ..... ............ ....... ...... ..... .... 156 Beck, Mrs. Ethel- The Lydia Fellowship Inc. of Canada ......... .... ............. .... .......... .... .................. 67 Beckwith, Dr.

Lois - Planned Parenthood of Canada ....... ... ... . .... ... ... ........ ........... ......... ......... ...... 88 Bergen, Jake - Private Citizen ........... ................... .............. ... ... ... .... ......................... ... .... ...... ......... 63 Bergstresser, Lorne - Private Citizen ........ ............ ..................... .............. ................. ........... ......... 171 Bloom, David - Private Citizen........ ................ ....... ................................... .......... ..... ..... ............ .... 110 Bloomer, Lloyd - Private Citizen ... .......... ....... ............................ ........................ ........ ...... ...... ....... 136 Bouchard, Ms.

Francine - Private Ci tizen ....... ....... .......... ..... .................. ...... ............................... 147 Boville, Arden - Private Citizen ........ ...... ..... ............. ............ .............. ....... ........ ...... ...................... 121 Bromley, Mrs. Louise - Private Citizen........ .................. ........ .............. .... ....... ..... ................... ........ 98 Brown, Ms.

Mona - Manitoba Ass'n of Women and the Law......... ...... .......... .......... ...... ...... ....... 48 Brydon, Gerry - Private Citizen... ....... ............. ......... ................ ... ........ ........ .......... .... ...................... 85 Buchko, Walter - Private Citizen ........ ........... ........ ...... .................................... .......... .................. .... 57 Bugan, Ms.

Rozalia - Private Citizen ............ ..... ......... ... ......... ........................ .... ........ .... .............. 158 Carbone, Alphanne - Private Citizen...... ..... ....... ..... ....... ...... ....... .... ............ ................ ..... ............ 138 Casey, Geoff - Private Citizen....... ......... ... ........... ......... ............. ........... ........ ............ .................... 146 9

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECI AL COMMITTEES Caulfield, Joseph - Christian Council and Service................... ................................................... 102 Charski, Wayne - Private Citizen ................................................................... ................................. 72 Chesley, Ms. Joanne- Private Citizen ......................................... ................................................. 184 Chroney, Ms. Rhonda - Lesbian Phone Line ... . .. . .... ... .. . .. ... . .. ... ... .. .. . .. . ... ... . .. .. .. .............................. 87 Coghill, Ms.

Margaret - Private Citizen......................................................... ............................... 203 Cohoe, Tom - Private Citizen . ..... ............. ... ... ... ... .... ... ... ... .. ... . .. ... . . . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . . .......... .......... ..... . 94 Cornelson, Art - Private Citizen .................................................................................................... 171 Davidson, Ross - Gay Fathers of Winnipeg....................... ............................................................. 87 Delisle, Ken - Private Citizen ........................................................................ ......................... 69, 104 Dean, John - Private Citizen ................................................ ........................................................... 65 Derksen, Dave- Private Citizen .............................................. ................................... ................... 195 Dias, Ms.

Manuela- University of Manitoba Women's Studies Ass'n ................ .................... ..... 61 Dick, Lyle - Project LAMBDA Inc. ................................ ......................................... ......................... 28 Dubois, Rose and Paul - Private Citizens ..................................................... ....................... ........ 162 Durksen, Jake - Private Citizen .......................... ............................................ ............................... 167 Dworan, Ms.

Deborah- Private Citizen ......................................................... ............................... 183 Emerawa, Ms. Chi- Univers ity of Winnipeg Students' Ass'n ....................................................... 60 Enns, Ed.- Private Citizen ...................................................... ............................. ........................... 133 Enyingi, Ms.

Julie - Planned Parenthood of Canada......... ........................................................... 89 Epp, Ron - Private Citizen......................................... .................................................................... 200 Esau, Miss Debra- Private Citizen ........................................ ....................... ................................ 196 Fedorowich, Stefan -W innipeg Gay/Lesbian Youth ..................................... ................................... 5 Feenstra, George - Private Citizen . ......... ........ .... ....... ... .. ... ...... .. ..... ...... .... ..... .... .... ... .... .. ............... 97 Feldbusch, Will - Private Citizen.................... ............................................................................... 117 Fetterly, Mrs.

Mary - Private Citizen .......................................... ..................... .............................. 142 Fetterly-Wiebe, Mrs.

June - Private Citizen ................... ...................................... ........................ 139 Fewster, Mark - Private Citizen .................. ........................... ........... .............. ............................... 203 Frandsen, Kell - Private Citizen..... ............................................................................................... 162 Friesen, Cornie - Private Citizen ........ ...... .. ...... ....... .... .. ..... ...... ... .. .. . .... .. .... ... .......... .... ........... ....... 99 Friesen, Mrs.

Gretta - Private Citizen .......................................................................................... 135 Fulton, Ms. Keith-Louise - Private Citizen ...................................................... ............................. 116 Gamble, Mrs.

Ruth - Private Citizen . ......... ... ...... .... .... .. ... ........ ... . . ... . .. ... .. .. ...... ... .. ... ... ...... ........... 204 Gamey, Tye and Nancy- Private Citizens ........ .................................. ............................................ 77 Genaille, John- Private Citizen .......................................................... ........... ............................... 153 Graham, Phillip - Oscar Wilde Memorial Society .......................................................................... 20 Gray, Gordon- Private Citizen ........................ .............................................................................. 179 Green, Sidney - Progressive Conservative Party ... .......... ...... .. .. .... .. ... . .. . ... ... .. . . .... ... ... . ............ ....... 9 Gross, Mrs.

Betty- Private Citizen ............................................................ ..................................... 44 Gross, Ms. Kim - Private Citizen ........ ... .. ... ...... ... .... ...... ......... .... .. .... .. . ... ... ... .. .. . ......... .... ..... ... ... ... 177 Hagenlocher, Peter - Private Citizen ...... ... . ........ .. .. ...... ...... .. ...... .... ... ... . ... ... ... ... ....... ... .. .. ...... . .. ...... 68 Hanan, Kathy - Private Citizen........................................................................................................ 69 Harms, Ms.

Marietta - Private Citizen....................... .................................................................. . 112 Harris, Ron - Village Clinic........................................................................ ...................................... 52 Haverluck, Rev.

Bob- Private Citizen ...................................... ................................................... . 122 Hebert, Rheal - Private Citizen .... . .... ... ... . ... .. .. . .... ... . ..... ... .. . .. . .. ... . .... ... .. . .. . . .. .. . . ....... ... . ... ......... ... .. ... 78 Hafford, Rick - Private Citizen....... ............................................................................................... 192 Hennessay, Dennis - Private Citizen ... ........ ...... .................. ...... ........... ... ... ... .... .. .. ............. ... ... ....... 93 Heppner, Rev.

Kenneth - Pastors' Evangelical Fellowship ........................................................... 100 Hildebrand, George- Private Citizen ...................... ..................................................................... 199 Hildebrandt, Corney - Private Citizen ............ ............................................................................... 201 Hill, Ms.

Judy- Klinic Community Health Centre ...................... .................................................... 58 Hughes, Mark - Private Citizen.......................... .......................................... ................................... 60 Johnston, Ms. Margot - Private Citizen ........................................................................ ............... 203 Johnstone, Mrs.

Una - Private Citizen ............................. ................................ ............................ 166 Jones, Nick - Private Citizen ...................................... ............................................. ...................... 184 Kent, Ms.

Ann - Private Citizen.................................................................................................... 134 Kippen, Darryl - Private Citizen .. ...... .... ...... .. . .. . .. .... .... .. . .. .. . .. . .. . . . ... .. . .. . ... .. .... ... ........ .... ... ... ... ...... .. .. 50 Klassen, Robert - Winkler Evangelical Mennonite Mission Church............................................ 202 Kolteck, Mrs. Eva, presented by K.

Gross - Private Citizen...... .................................... ............ 176 Koop, Harry - Private Citizen ..................................................................... ....... ............................ 173 Kowal, Ms. Bonnie- Private Citizen ........................... ............................................... ............ ....... 201 Kulik, Mrs. Joy - Private Citizen................................................................................................... 139 10

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECIAL COMMITTEES Labalu, Ms. Brenda - Private Citizen ...................... ..... ......... ..... ................................ .......... ........ 137 Licharson, Larry - Big Brothers Ass'n of Winnipeg.......... ..... ........ ......................... ....... .... ............ 80 Lion, Mrs. Terry - Private Citizen ............. .................. ......... .... .... .............. .............. ......... ............... 78 Lippmann, Ms.

Shirley- Private Citizen .......... ........ .... ...... .... ....... .... ....... ..................................... 180 �!S:��.E�;,a�: : :��=tt: g��=�.::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::·· 1�� MacDonald, Ms. Dolly- Metropolitan Community Churches of Winnipeg ............ ......... ........... 112 MacKenzie, Mrs.

Bertha - Private Citizen........... ........ .............. .......................... ...... ................... 166 Maclean, David - Morality in the Nation ....... .......... .............. .... ....... .... ..... ........ ........... ........ .... ... 193 Maclean, Davie - Private Citizen ............... .... ..... ................ ....... ..... ........ ..... .... ................ ........... ... 65 Maclean, Mrs.

Anne - Private Citizen ........................................................................................... 71 Maclean, Ron - Private Citizen ... ..... ... ... . .. .... ....... ... ... ... . .. . .. . .. . ... .... ... ... . .. . ... ... . .... .... ... . ... ... ... ... ... .. .. 63 MacQueen, Ms.

Bonnie - Manitoba Action Committee on the Status of Women............ .... ...... 38 Martens, John - Private Citizen ............. .............................. ....... ............. ................. .... ....... ......... 188 McCrady, Larry - Private Citizen .... .... .... ....... .... ............. ....... ..... ........ ...... .............. ......... .......... .... 169 McDermott, Michael- Private Citizen ............. ............ ............... ........ ................ ........... ............ ... 197 McDonald, John - Private Citizen ............ ......... ................................. ............... .............. .............. 201 McGhie, Ken - Private Citizen....... ............ ........ ............. ...... ....... ............... ..... ................... ....... ...... 93 McGifford, Kurt - Private Citizen ................. ............ ......... ............ ....... ....... ......... .................. ....... 190 McGinn, Pastor Garth - Grant Memorial Baptist Church..................... ............ .............. ............ 185 McKelvie, Stuart - Private Citizen ........... ........... ........ ....... ............ ....... ............... ................. ......... 174 McKenzie, Dr.

John - Private Citizen ...............................................•............................................ 156 Mclennan, Mrs. Audrey - The United Church of Canada; The Conference of Manitoba and Northwestern Ontario ........ ................... ....... ..... ............ ..... .. 42 Mcleod, Lee - Private Citizen .... ........... ......... .... ...... .............. ........ ...................... .............. .......... 138 Miller, Ms. Joan - Private Citizen ...... ....................... ......... ......... .... .... ................ ................. .......... 174 Millward, Dr.

A.E.- The Council on Homosexuality and Religion .......... ....... .......... .......... ....... ..... 26 Milne, Mrs. Joy - Private Citizen ..... ...... ..... ............ ........... ..... ...... .......... .......................... ..... ....... 144 Much, Jonathan - Private Citizen .......... ................................ ....................... ..... .............. ............... 71 Mueller, Mrs. Lieselotte - Private Citizen . ... .................... ... .. ....... .................. ............. .... .... .......... 117 Munech, Ms.

Heidi - Private Citizen .............. .................. ........... ........ ..... ....... .............................. 196 Murray, Glen - Village Clinic.......................... ..... ..... ..... ........... ................................ ........ ................ 52 Nachtigal!, Ervin - Private Citizen............................ ........ ............................... .............. ................ 145 Neufeld, David - Private Citizen .................. ..... ........... ..... ..... .......................................... ......... ....... 72 Neufeld, John - Private Citizen............... ......................... ..................... .... ......... .............. ........ ....... 73 Neufeld, Karl - Private Citizen ...................................... ............ .............. ..... ....... ................. ........... 73 Neufeld, Mrs.

Evangeline - Private Citizen......... ................... ....... ....................... .......... ............... 115 Neufeld, Ms. Rhoda - Private Citizen........ ........... ...................... ........ ...... ..................... ........ ......... 73 Neufeld, Pastor Dan - Glencross EMMC Church................. ........ ......... ..... ............... ....... ........... 111 Neufeld, Reinhard - Private Citizen ....... .................. .................... ............. ........ ................. ............. 73 Norberg, Ms.

Alison - Charter of Rights Coalition...... ........ ............. ..................... .......... .............. 80 North, Rick - Winnipeg Gay Media Collective ............ ....... .. .... .... ... ... ............... .... ... ............. ..... .... 24 O'Rourke, Tim - Private Citizen ...... ....... ............................... ................................ ..... ................... 167 Oldham, Rev. John - Private Citizen ............... ........... ....................... ............ .................. :............ 148 Papso, Ms.

Sally - Private Citizen ... ... ... . .. ...... .... .... .... ...... ... ... ... ........ ............. ......... ....... ...... ........ 177 Parker, Mrs.

Gwen - Manitoba Women's Institute.... ........ .... ............... ...... .... ............ ..... ............ 187 Perry, Dave - Private Citizen ........ ............ ............ .... .......... ....... .................................................... 191 Peters, Abe - Private Citizen ....... .................... ........... .... ...... .... .............................. ....... ........ ....... 199 Peters, Harry - Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties........ ..... ...... ........ ............... ......... 33 Peters, Lloyd - Private Citizen......... .............. .................... .......... ............... ............. .............. ....... 188 Peters, Pastor Lloyd - Steinbach Ministerial Ass'n.. ................. ....... ........... ........ .... .... ................ 188 Pifer, Rev.

Robin - Waverley Fellowship Baptist Church ...... ...... ........ ..................... .................... 142 Plett, Ed - Private Citizen ............ ......... .................. .......... ....... ..... .......... .......... ...... ....... ................ 119 Purdy, Ms. Kris - Private Citizen .................. ............. ..... ...... .......... ........ ........ ............ .................. 113 Quappe, Charles - Private Citizen............................ ....................... .............. ............ .......... ......... 136 Rankin, Ms.

Joyce - Lobby for the Inclusion of Sexual Orientation in the Human Rights Code .. ... ... . . ... . .. .... ......... ..... ... ... ... ... ... . .. . .... ... . ... ... ................... .... ... ............... 3 Reid, Ms. Lynette - Winnipeg Gay/Lesbian Youth............. ....... ..................... ........ ............... ........... 6 Reimer, Mrs. Margaret - Private Citizen.... .......... ................ ..... ......................... .......... .......... ....... 135 Robertson, Ms.

Marilyn - ·Private Citizen . ... ... ... . ........ ... ... . .. .... ... .. ... ... ... .... ... .... .... ....... ........ ... ... ... 180 Romeyn, Dr. James - Private Citizen ....... ............... ........... .................. ....... ............ ....... ..... .......... 120 Samoiloff, Rob - Winnipeg Gay/Lesbian Youth .............. ........ ......... ................ ............. ................... 7 11

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECIAL COMMITTEES Sancan, Ms. Denise - Private Citizen...................... ....................... ............. ..... ............ ..... ...... ..... 164 Schmidt, Ray - Private Citizen ................. ........ ......... ............. ................... ................. ...... ........ ..... 158 Schmidt, Rick - Private Citizen......... ................ ........ ......... ................... ........... ........ ........ ........ ....... 69 Shavin, Ms.

Denise - Private Citizen..... ..... .......... .............. ...... ........................ .......... .................... 79 Smiel, Ms. Susan - University of Winnipeg Women's Centre ........................ ........ ......... .............. 59 Smith, Allen - Private Citizen ..................... .......... .... ...... ....... .................. ........ ......... ....... .............. 183 Smith, Dr.

J.R.M.- Private Citizen ..................................... ............................................. ...........•..... 74 Smith, William - Private Citizen ........ .......... .................. ....... ........... ..... .... ...... ............. .......... ........ 140 Snowdon, Dr.

Tom - Social Concerns Committee of the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada-Manitoba and Northwest Ontario....... .... ..... ..... .................................... .... .... ............... 193 Stephens, Kelly - Private Citizen .......... ....... ..... ......... ............. ..... ............... ... ... ........... ....... .... ........ 67 Stephens, Mrs. Eva - Private Citizen .......... ... ...... .... ........ ...................... ............... ..... .................... 73 Stevens, Mrs.

Noreen - Private Citizen .......... .......... ........... ............... ........... ......... ....... ....... .... .... 151 Suek, Ms. Bev - Manitoba Advisory Council on the Status of Women... .... ........ ........ ................ 50 Swan, David - Private Citizen ............. ................ ....... ............... .... ........................................ ............ 1 Swan David - AFFIRM ................. ................................................................ ............................ ........ 44 Szakacs, Ms.

Shellyse - University of Manitoba Womyn Centre.................. ........ ............... ......... 62 Taylor, Joe - Private Citizen .......... ....... ........ .... .... ....... ...... ............................. ...... .... ........... ..... ..... 101 Taylor, Ms. Susan - Private Citizen...... ....... ........ ....................................... ....................... ....... ..... 153 Ternette, Nick - Urban Resource Centre Inc. .......... ..... ... ...................... ................................. ....... 30 Tervo, Ms.

Shirley - Klinic Community Health Centre..................... .......... ...... ............. .......... ....... 59 Tetrault, Edward - Private Citizen ........... ...... ........... .... ............ ............ ........ ....... ...... .... .... .... ........ 129 Toews, Peter - Private Citizen ..... ........ ..... ..... ..... .... .... ..... ..... ........ ..... ..................... .......... ............. 198 Toogood, Bob - Springs of Living Water Centre ..... ....... ................ .............. ......... ......... ..... .... .... 202 Tozeland, Ms.

Judy - Manitoba Ass'n of Social Workers...................... ................. ....... ............... 43 Tyson, Rev. Graham - Private Citizen ..... ............... ...... .............. ................... ............. ...... ..... ....... 182 Van Leewen, Don - Private Citizen ....... ...... ......... ...... ........... ....... ... .............. ............ ...... ..... ......... 120 Vogel, Chris - Gays for Equality ..... ..... .... ..... ......... .... ........ ... ........................... ............ ........ ........... 15 Voth, Rev.

Ken - Private Citizen......... .................... ...... ......... ................. .... ......... ... .... .... ...... ........ 124 Walford, Ms. Pamela - Private Citizen .... ..... .... .... ...... ...... ............................ ........................ ........ 112 Wengel, Randy - Private Citizen ... ............... ......... ........................................ ..................... ............. 98 Williams, Peter - Private Citizen . ........... ..... ..... .... .............................. ....................................... .... 152 Williams, Rev.

Peter - The United Church of Canada; The Conference of Manitoba and Northwestern Ontario..... ...... ......... ..... ............. .................... 42 Wiptenberg, Darlene - Private Citizen...... ........ ....... .............. .... ............ .......... ..................... ........ 132 Wolovick, Ms. Marilyn - Manitoba Action Committee on the Status of Women ....... ................. 37 Woodcock, Mrs.

Wendy - REAL Women of Canada ..... ... ........................... .................................. 90 Woodcock, Wes - Private Citizen .......................... ........ ........ ...... ............... ................................... 157 BRIEFS PRESENTED BUT NOT READ Human Rights Code The (Bill 47) Alexander, John - Private Citizen ........ ...... ............ ...... ................... .............. ............ ................ .... 127 Bjornson, Ms. Jeraldine and Norberg, Ms.

Alison -Charter of Rights Coalition (Manitoba). ......... ......... ................................... .... ................... ........ 104 Carson, Mrs.

S.- Private Citizen .............. ............. .................................... ........ ........ .................... 215 Clague, R.E.- Private Citizen...... ........ ..... ..... .... .......... ...... .............................. ............. ...... ............. 215 Friesen, Doris - Private Citizen........... .......... .................. .................... ........... ............................... 107 Grahn, R.- Private Citizen ........ ..... ....... .......... ................... ........... .............. ...... ................ ......... .... 217 Lipsett, Edward - Private Citizen . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... 126 McGinn, Mrs.

Jean - Private Citizen ............. ......... ....................... ..... .......... .............. .................. 217 Nemez, Mr. and Mrs. J. (Swan River) - Private Citizens........ ...... ................... ............................ 154 Nemez, Mr. and Mrs. K. (Inkster) - Private Citizens........................... ................ ............. ...... ...... 154 Renton, G. (Charleswood) - Private Citizen ....................... .......................................................... 154 Renton, Mr. and Mrs.

A. (Charleswood - Private Citizens ........ .............. .... ................................ 154 Renton, Mrs. J.- Private Citizen.................... ............ .......... .......................... ........................... ..... 154 Scott, Ms.

Beverley - On behalf of Families of Gays.................. ............ .... ............................... 108 Smith, Linda M.- Private Citizen........... ....... ............... .................................. ................................ 153 Toews, Claire - Private Citizen.... .......... ............................................. .................................. ......... 109 Zell, Mr. and Mrs. R. (Swan River) - Private Citizens .............. .......... .................. ............... ........ 154 12

SITTING 1 2 3 4 5 6 THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON PU BLIC ACCOUNTS CHAIRMAN Mr. David Blake, M.L.A. Constituency of Minnedosa TIME DAY DATE LOCATION 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 2 June, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 9 June, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 11 June, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 26 June, 1987 Winnipeg 2:00 p.m. Tuesday 26 January, 1988 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m.

Thursday 28 January, 1988 Winnipeg REPORTS, CONSIDERATION OF Provincial Auditor's Report PAGES 1 - 17 18 - 38 39 - 56 57 - 75 76 - 99 100 - 117 Bothe, J.- Director of Public Accounts .... ...... ... .... ... ... ... ... ..... ... ...... ... .... .................. .. .. . 12, 39, 116 Connery, E.- MLA for Portage Ia Prairie ... .... .... ... ... ..... .... ... ..... ... ... ... ................... ........ 44, 63, 105 Curtis, C.E.- Deputy Minister, Finance ........ .............. .......... .......... ........ ................... 1, 34, 64, 111 Downey, J.- MLA for Arthur .................... ................................ .............................................. 23, 45 Jackson, F.H.- Provincial Auditor ............ ...... .... .... ... .............. .. .. .... ... .......... 1, 18, 39, 58, 76, 101 Mayer, Rick - Director, Special Audits .. ... ... .... .......... ... .. .... ... .................. ................. ................. 106 Orchard, D.- MLA for Pembina ...... ..... ....... ..... ........ ...... ... .............. .... ... ................. ....... 26, 90, 103 Singleton, J.- Assistant Provincial Auditor............................. .................... 9, 29, 45, 63, 89, 102 Public Accounts Rosenhek, E.- Comptroller, Dept of Finances............................................................................ 54 13

SITTING 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON PU BLIC UTILITIES AND NATUR AL RESOURCES CHAIRMAN Mr. C. Santos, M.L.A. Constituency of Burrows TIME DAY DATE LOCATION 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 24 March, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 26 March, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 9 April, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 14 April, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 16 April, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 23 April, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 21 May, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 28 May, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 4 June, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m.

Thursday 18 June, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Thursday 25 June, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 7 July, 1987 Winnipeg 10:00 a.m. Tuesday 14 July, 1987 Winnipeg 8:00 p.m.

Tuesday 14 July, 1987 Winniepg REPORTS, CONSIDERATION OF PAGES 1 - 18 19 - 35 36 - 47 48 - 63 64 - 79 80 - 94 95 - 11 1 11 2 - 129 130 - 150 151 - 166 167 - 188 189 - 205 206 - 226 227 - 242 Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation, Annual Report ....... ............. ............. 1, 19, 167, 206, 227 Manitoba Energy Authority, Annual Report .......... ......... ...... ..... ........ .... ......... .......... ....... .......... ..... 36 Manitoba Hydro-Electric Board, Annual Report.. ..... ......... ...... ........ ...... ......... ...... ............. 48, 64, 80 Manitoba Telephone System, Annual Report.. ......... ....... .... ........ ....... ........... 95, 11 2, 130, 151, 189 BRIEFS, PRESENTATION OF Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation Bucklaschuck, Hon.

John - Minister responsiuble for MPIC ....... .................... ................... 167, 206 Carstairs, Mrs.

S.- MLA for River Heights ........ ......................... ....................... ...... .................. ... 215 Jackson, F.-Provincial Auditor ................................................................ ...................... 176, 224, 227 Mayer, R.- Special Audits, Internal Audit Department ........ ........................................ 174, 224, 228 Silver, R.- Pres. and General Manager, MPIC ............... .......... ............... .......... 6, 23, 171, 213, 230 Manitoba Energy Authority Eliesen, Marc - Chairperson and Executive Director, Manitoba Energy Authority........ ............. 36 Ferris, Peter J.- Executive Officer and Chairperson, Employment Services, Limestone Training and Employment Agency ... ...... ........... ........ ... ... .... .......... ............................ 43 Manitoba Hydro-Electric Board Beatty, G.H. (Garry) - President and Chief Executive Officer, Manitoba Hydro......... ............ ..... 65 Brennan, Bob - Vice-President of Finance, Manitoba Hydro.................................... ..... .............. 54 14

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECIAL COMMITTEES Derry, A.- Vice-President of Business Development, Manitoba Hydro .... .. .... ...... .. .. .... ............ .... 7 4 Downey, J.- MLA for Arthur ............................................................................................................ 82 Eliesen, Marc - Chairperson, Board of Directors, Manitoba Hydro-Electric Board........ 48, 64, 80 Goodwin, C.- Senior Advisor to the President, Manitoba Hydro.... ....... ................................ ...... 68 Jolson, Ms.

Linda - Vice-President of Corporate Relations, Manitoba Hydro............................ 55 Lambert, R.O.- Senior Vice-President Customer Services and Marketing, Manitoba Hydro . ............ .............. .. .... ................ ........... ..................... .................. 62, 80 Tishinski, Will -Vice-President of Operations, Manitoba Hydro........................................... ....... 63 Thompson, P.-Division Manager, Marketing, Manitoba Hydro ... ..... .... ............... ..... ... ...... ...... ..... 76 Manitoba Telephone System Beatty, K.- Vice-President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary, Manitoba Telephone System......... ......................................................... 113 Carstairs, Mrs.

S.- MLA for River Heights.. ...... ...... ...... ....... ................................................ 110, 120 Curtis, Charles E.- Acting Chief Executive Officer ................ .... .... ....................... 99, 131, 151, 205 Delgatty, D.- General Regional Manager, Western Region, Manitoba Telephone System . ...... . 200 Edmonds, Mrs.

Jean - Chairperson, Manitoba Telephone System..................................... ....... 125 Fraser, William - Vice-President, Finance........ ..................................... ................. .......... ............. 195 McKenzie, G.- Managing Partner, The Coopers and Lybrand Consulting Group..................... 155 Robertson, Edward J.- Acting President... ....................... ................................... ........... 97, 120, 197 Tinkler, Ed.- General Regional Manager, Eastern Region, Manitoba Telephone System.... ..... 201 15

THE STANDING COMMITTEE ON STATUTORY REGUL ATIONS AND ORDERS CHAIRMAN Mr. D. Scott, M.L.A. Constituency of Inkster SITIING TIME DAY DATE LOCATION PAGES 1 8:00 p.m. Thursday 11 June, 1987 Winnipeg 1- 25 2 8:00 p.m. Tuesday 23 June, 1987 Winnipeg 26 - 44 3 8:00 p.m. Tuesday 14 July, 1987 Winnipeg 45 - 122 BILLS, CONSIDERATION OF Anatomy Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 60) ...... ......... .... ................ ........... ................. ...... ...... ..... .................... 95 Certain Statutes Relating to Education and Other Matters

An Act to repeal (Bill 5) ......... ..... ........................... ........ .... ................... .......... ............. ................ 19 Certain Statutes relating to Hospitals, Hospital Districts and Nursing Unit Districts and other matters

An Act to repeal (Bill 63) ..... .......... .... .... .............. ................ ...... ...................... .... ................ ........ 24 Certain Unrepealed and Unconsolidated Public General Statutes and Parts of Statutes (1871 -1969)

An Act to repeal (Bill 48) ........... ............. ...................... ................ ....... ....... ................................. 48 Change of Name Act The (Bill 11) ......... ................ ................. ....... .......... ........... ... ........... .... ..... ..... ................ .......... ....... 37 Charter Compliance Statute Amendment Act, 1987 The (Bill 46)..... ............. ..................... ......................... ....... ............ .......... ... ........... ..... .... ............... 97 Child and Family Services Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 35) ............. ................. ................ ....... ....... ................. .............. ......... 87 Child and Family Services Act

(2) An Act to amend The (Bill 72) ........... .......... ...... ......... .................... ....... ....... ..... .... ............. 49, 104 Coat of Arms, Floral Emblem and Tartan Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 44) ........ ........ ..... ........ .................. .............. ..... .... .... .............. ..... ....... 42 Community Child Day Care Standards Act

An Act to amend The (Bill31) .... ............ ......... ....... ............... ........ ........... ............... ...... ....... 30, 41 Condominium Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 29) ........ ............ ...... ............. ............ ...... ..... ............ ....... ............. 27, 39 Construction Industry Wages Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 42) ............ ........ ... .......... ........ .... ........... .... ..... . ............ ............ ...... .... 95 Consumer Protection Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 50) .................... ............... ................ .... ........... .... ........... ........... ....... 43 Corporations Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 24) ........... ... ....... .......... .................. ............. ..... .............. .... ..... .... 87, 88 Crime Prevention Foundation Act The (Bill 20).............. .......... ....... ...... ...... ....... ..... ....... ................ ........ ............... ........... ........ ........... 19 Family Law Amendment Act The (Bill 21) .... .................. .......... ....... .... ....... ............... .......... ........... ..................... ..... ............. 12, 19 Human Tissue Act The (Bill 40)................. ...... ... ......... .......... ....... ....... ........ ... ..... ........... ............ ...... ............ ..... .......... 88 16

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An Act to amend The (Bill 62) ...................... ....... ...... ........ ........................ ...... ................ ... ........ 99 Law Society Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 38) . . .. ... . .. . .. . ... ... . ... .. ... . ... ... . .. . ... . ... . ... ... . . . . . .. . .. . .. . ... ...... .. . ... .... ....... .. .. .. 88 Limitation of Actions Act and The Highway Traffic Act and to repeal The Unsatisfied Judgment Fund Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 19) .......... .......... ........ .... ........ ...... ...... ........ .......... ........ .... .......... ........ 19 Liquor Control Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 37) ........ ................ .............. ...... ...... .......... ........ ....... ....... ........ ......... . 21 Lotteries Foundation Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 45) ............. ................ ............... ........ ......... ............ ...... ......... ........ .... 42 Manitoba Advisory Council on the Status of Women Act The (Bill 3) .......... .... ......... ............ ............... ............. ... ....... .... ...... .............. ....... ...... ................. 26, 33 Mental Health Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 59) ....... ............. ............... ....... ............. ....... ............... ............... 54, 109 Public Schools Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 70) ..... .............. ......... .......... ......... .............. .............. ................. 48, 103 Queen's Bench Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 10) ..... ......... ............ ............... ...... ........... ........ .................. ........... ..... 19 Re-enacted Statutes of Manitoba, 1987 Act The (Bill 4) ................................ ......... ....... .......... ....... ................. ......... ............ ........ .................. 1, 16 Real Estate Brokers Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 49) .......... ....... .............. .............. ............. ............ ........... ..... .... .... 46, 49 Real Property Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 34) ................ ........... .................. .......... .................. ........ ...... ....... ...... 20 Real Property Act and Various Other Acts Amendment Act The (Bill 27) ................................. ......... ...... ........... ...... ........... ................. ........... ..... ........ ........ 14, 20 Registry Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 33) ...... ............ ............ .............. ......... ........... ............... ..................... 20 Religious Societies' Lands Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 36) . . . ....... ... ....... ... ........... ...... ...... ........ .... ........ .. ...... ... ... .................. .. 42 Securities Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 18) .................... ...... ..................... .............. ........................... ..... ....... 37 Statute Law Amendment Act (1 987) The (Bill 69)........ .......... ................ ...... ............. ............... ........ ......... .......... .............. ................. ..... 99 BRIEFS, PRESENTATION OF Re-enacted Statutes of Manitoba, 1987 Act The (Bill 4) Lepieszo, Ed - Private Citizen ............. .......... ................... ..... ...... ...... ................ ........... ........ ............. 9 Macinnes, Alan, Q.C.- Manitoba Catholic School Trustees Association ................. ......... ............... .

Simpson, Ms. Linda - Sooter Studios .... ..... ............... ..................................... ............... ......... ......... 6 Family Law Amendment Act The (Bill 21) Rosenbaum, Norman - Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties ........ ...... ......... ...... ......... 12 Real Properly Act and Various Other Acts Amendment Act The (Bill 27) Real Property Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 34) Cvitkovitch, Frank - Legal Counsel for the Mortgage Loans Association of Manitoba ..... ........ 14 Manitoba Advisory Council on the Status of Women Act The (Bill 3) Butcher, Ms. Joan - Provincial Council of Women of Manitoba ..... ....... ..... ....... ......... .... ....... ...... 26 Cogill, Ms. Margaret -Manitoba Action Committee on the Status of Women ........ ................... 27 17

INDEX OF STANDING & SPECIAL COMMITTEES Condominium Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 29) Breurkens, Fred - Winnipeg Condominium Corporation No. 6 .. ... . .. . .. . .. . .. . ... . ............ ... ..... .. . ..... .. 30 Thawani, Anand L.- Private Citizen ...... ............ ....... .................... ................. ...................... ....... ..... 28 Community Child Day Care Standards Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 31) Arnold, Abe - Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties ............ ..... ....... ....... ........... ........... 30 Hnatiuk, Ms. Rosemary - Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties . .. . ..... ........ ..... ... ..... .... 30 Real Estate Brokers Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 49) Burns, W.G.- Manitoba Real Estate Association ..... ...................... ........ .............. .... ............ .......... 49 Public Schools Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 70) Reimer, Art - Manitoba Teachers' Society ... . ... .. .. ... ...... .. ....... ... . ... .... .. . . .. .... .... ....... .......... ...... ... ..... 48 Child and Family Services Act

(2) An Act to amend The (Bill 72) Dolman, Mary - Private Citizen .......... ............................. ..... ........ .... ............. .................................. 53 Hogue, Darlene - Private Citizen ......... ... ... ... ... ..... ........ .... .. . .. . . . . ....... .. . ... .... ... .... ...... ...... ... . .. . ... ..... .. 52 Peters, Harry - President, Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties................. ................ 49 St. Hilaire, Lee and Agnes - Victims of Child Abuse Laws.......................... ....... ... ...... ..... ........... 50 Mental Health Act

An Act to amend The (BiU 59) Brolund, Dr. Jay - Psychological Association of Manitoba .................... ......... ...................... ........ 78 Brown, Dr.

Jim - Group of General Hospital Heads of Psychiatry . . .. . ... . ... . .. . .... .... ... ... .... ... ... ...... 82 Cohoe, Tom - Private Citizen ....... ..... .... .. ...... ...... .... . ...... ..... ... ... . .... .... .. . .. . ... . .. . . ....... .. . .... ...... ........... 54 Dalmyn, Tony - The Canadian Mental Health Ass'n (Manitoba Division) ......... ...................... ..... 65 Elias, Henry - Private Citizen . ... ....... ... .......... ..... ... ..... ...... ....... .. ... ...... .. . .. . .. . .. .. ... ........ .......... ... ..... ... 69 Greenberg, Ms.

Shawn - Legal Aid Manitoba............... ............. ..... .... ......... .... ....... ..... ....... .......... 62 Higgs, Ms. Denise - Private Citizen....... ........... .... ...... ....... ........... ....... ........ ........ .......... ........ ......... 86 Hunzinger, Dr. Werner - Grace Hospital, Head of Psychiatry..... ..... .............. ........................ ..... .. 85 McKay, Dr.

Marilyn - Manitoba Psychiatry Association........ ....... ....... ............. ....... ....... ...... ..... ..... 76 Peters, Harry - Manitoba Association for Rights and Liberties......... ...... ........... ....... ........ ..... ..... 72 BRIEFS PRESENTED BUT NOT READ Re-enacted Statutes of Manitoba, 1987 Act The (Bill 4) Catholic Minority in Manitoba ................... ..................................................... ................................. 24 Condominium Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 29) Young, Mark - Winnipeg Condominium Corporation No. 71 ......... .... ................. .......................... 43 Mental Health Act

An Act to amend The (Bill 59) Manitoba Health Organizations Inc .. ............ ........... ........... ..... .......... ........ .............. ....... ..... .... ..... 11 9 18

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Collection	Manitoba — Debates (Hansard)
Citation	33rd 2nd hansardpdf 33rd 2nd committee index
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Language	en
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