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May 15, 2007

38th Parliament, 2nd Session

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LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO

ASSEMBLÉE LÉGISLATIVE DE L'ONTARIO

Tuesday 15 May 2007 Mardi 15 mai 2007

MEMBERS' STATEMENTS

APPRENTICESHIP TRAINING

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

FOREST FIREFIGHTING

CONSUMER PROTECTION

JACK BURROWS

OTTAWA SENATORS

HEALTH CARE

ONTARIO ECONOMY

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

PAYDAY LOANS ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR

LES PRÊTS SUR SALAIRE

BONE MARROW AWARENESS

MONTH ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR LE MOIS

DE LA SENSIBILISATION

AU DON DE MOELLE OSSEUSE

MOTIONS

HOUSE SITTINGS

STATEMENTS BY THE MINISTRY

AND RESPONSES

ELECTORAL REFORM /

RÉFORME ÉLECTORALE

IMPAIRED DRIVERS

AMATEUR SPORT /

LE SPORT AMATEUR

ELECTORAL REFORM

IMPAIRED DRIVERS

AMATEUR SPORT

ELECTORAL REFORM

VISITOR

ORAL QUESTIONS

YEAR-END GRANTS

NORTHERN ECONOMY

IMMIGRANT SERVICES

ACQUIRED BRAIN INJURIES

ELECTRICITY SUPPLY

IMMIGRANT SERVICES

EDUCATION FUNDING

ABORIGINAL EDUCATION

ELECTRICITY SUPPLY

CONSUMER PROTECTION

FOREST FIREFIGHTING

VISITORS

PETITIONS

MINISTRY OF

TRANSPORTATION OFFICE

DISABLED PERSONS

PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

SOCIAL SERVICES FUNDING

POPE JOHN PAUL II

DISABLED PERSONS

PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM

POPE JOHN PAUL II

DISABLED PERSONS

PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM

GASOLINE PRICES

PARENTING EDUCATION

ONTARIO SOCIETY

FOR THE PREVENTION

OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

ORDERS OF THE DAY

INDEPENDENT POLICE

REVIEW ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR L'EXAMEN

INDÉPENDANT DE LA POLICE

LONG-TERM CARE HOMES ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR LES FOYERS DE SOINS DE LONGUE DURÉE

The House met at 1330.

Prayers.

MEMBERS' STATEMENTS

APPRENTICESHIP TRAINING

Mr. Robert W. Runciman (Leeds–Grenville): A few weeks ago, I met with a number of electrical contractors in my riding who want to provide training opportunities for young Ontarians to become electricians but are stopped from doing so by the McGuinty government's unfair restrictions.

The McGuinty government, in a sop to unions that contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to their 2003 election, has refused to accept a one-to-one ratio between journeymen and electrical apprentices, thereby eliminating the number of apprentices that smaller, non-unionized companies can hire.

All other provinces and territories have accepted a one-to-one ratio, but the McGuinty government, in an unseemly quid pro quo with the unions, has claimed its implementation would be unsafe, despite the absence of any documentation to back up that claim.

This McGuinty government is using an unsupportable claim—lack of safety—to justify a politically motivated and harmful policy. As a result, many small businesses are hurt and, most importantly, many young Ontarians are losing opportunities to become members of a well-respected trade that can provide a rewarding career.

The time is long overdue for the McGuinty Liberal government to do the right thing: Join all other provinces and territories and adopt the one-to-one ratio.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): The member for Davenport.

Applause.

Mr. Tony Ruprecht (Davenport): I rise in the House today to discuss the issue of the York subway line and the third party's desire to kill the progress that the McGuinty Liberals have made for GTA and York region commuters and students—and thank you for clapping for this.

The McGuinty Liberals have recognized the need for a more efficient transit plan, and we are moving in the right direction. We know that the subway extension will provide a much-anticipated and much-needed service to those travelling in and out of the region. As a result, we have come to the table with the funds and the plan to do so.

The NDP claims to be an advocate for the environment, but instead of providing an inexpensive, clean mode of transportation for commuters, the leader of the third party intends to keep Ontarians in their cars and away from their families.

The McGuinty Liberals believe that the York subway line will provide more opportunities for not just those in the GTA and York region, but also those in the north, through creating jobs for northern workers at the Bombardier plant. We understand that Ontarians want to see a healthy Ontario with less gridlock, clean air and ever-expanding opportunities.

FOREST FIREFIGHTING

Mr. Norm Miller (Parry Sound—Muskoka): I rise today to draw attention to the forest fires that are raging in northwestern Ontario and threatening surrounding communities. The central line of defence against forest fires in Ontario is the Ministry of Natural Resources's fire crews. This poses a problem, however, as recently both the Environmental Commissioner, Gord Miller, and Andy Houser, the former MNR director of fish and wildlife, confirmed that the ministry is severely underfunded and understaffed.

The recent Liberal budget chose to slash the MNR by $36 million—from $762 million last year to $726 million this year. It now looks like this year's forest fires will be worse than last year's.

The MNR does not have the resources to properly deal with the fires that are currently blazing through northern Ontario. On site, MNR firefighting crews have been getting support from 130 firefighters from BC, and another 100 firefighters and water bombers are expected from Alberta. Newspaper headlines all point to the severity of the current situation: "Wildfires Sweeping Province's Northwest," "Lightning Threatens to Spark New Blazes" and "Northern Infernos" are just a few. Minister, rather than continuing to spin the MNR budget, please just confirm that the MNR budget was slashed by $36 million and explain to Ontario residents how you intend to meet your mandate.

CONSUMER PROTECTION

Ms. Cheri DiNovo (Parkdale—High Park): Today I'll be bringing forth a bill limiting the interest a payday loan company can charge to 35% and also requiring them to be regulated. The McGuinty Liberals have only asked payday loan companies to post rates, which is adding insult to injury for those who are preyed upon by these so-called businesses.

I'm delighted to welcome ACORN, an anti-poverty activist organization, and Sharon Shrieve, who's here in the members' gallery. She is the president of their west-end chapter. They've done extensive work on payday loan companies. Many of my constituents who are among the most needy, those who are on ODSP or OW, those who try to pay their rent and feed their children on minimum wage, are kept in a state of perpetual debt simply so that they might have a small advance on their pay.

"One thousand per cent interest is 1,000% wrong," wrote Carol Goar in the Toronto Star, and I absolutely agree. I urge this House to pass the Payday Loans Act, 2007, as soon as possible. Stop legalized loansharking in Ontario.

JACK BURROWS

Ms. Monique M. Smith (Nipissing): On Thursday night, the Kiwanis Club of North Bay honoured the former mayor of North Bay, Jack Burrows, as the citizen of the year. Jack is without a doubt a true community leader, and over 250 people from our community came out to celebrate his contributions to the North Bay area and those of his wife of 51 years, Elaine.

Jack served on North Bay city council for 15 years, eight of those as mayor. During his time as mayor, he helped to ensure that our Canadian Forces base did not leave North Bay, and he moved our waterfront redevelopment forward—two of many lasting legacies.

Jack was the chair of the North Bay Civic Hospital board for five years and served on the board for 12. He's a long-time member of the Rotary Club, he's on the board of the Sports Hall of Fame, the WKP Kennedy gallery and the northern Ontario heritage fund.

He was born and raised in North Bay and has run his business there for over 40 years.

At the dinner on Thursday night, words such as "classy," "a man with integrity," "friendly," "wise" and "gracious" were used repeatedly in describing Jack. I had the opportunity to congratulate Jack on behalf of the province, to thank him for being so gracious to me when I was first elected and for all the work that he's done for our community.

Not one to rest on his laurels, the very next day, on Friday, Jack Burrows and a group of community leaders launched the North Bay community foundation, a foundation that will raise money locally, invest the funds and spend the interest on projects in our area. I was delighted to be at the launch of the foundation and to announce that the foundation has received Trillium funding to help it get off the ground.

Congratulations to Jack and Elaine, and thank you for all the time, energy, enthusiasm and lasting legacies you have given to the North Bay community.

OTTAWA SENATORS

Mr. Norman W. Sterling (Lanark—Carleton): Yesterday, many government members commented on Mr. Tory's visit to Ottawa. They accused the former Harris government of mistreating Ottawa. I want to bring that to the present, and I want to present a memento of the series between the Ottawa Senators and the Buffalo Sabres to my friend Jim Bradley. From time to time, Jim likes to explain or spin excuses for underperformance of the teams he supports. I want to help him out.

The Buffalo Sabres are down 3 to zip in the Stanley Cup playoffs because of—wait for it—Mike Harris, Jim Bradley's favourite excuse. If Mike Harris had not come to the assistance and rescue of the Ottawa Senators in his time as Premier when times were tough, the Ottawa Senators wouldn't be in Ottawa; they'd be in the United States. The Sabres wouldn't be facing the 20,000-plus fans who avidly support their hockey team. Canada wouldn't have a team in the playoffs.

Jim, here's a T-shirt to help you with the spin: "Blame Ottawa's success on Mike Harris."

HEALTH CARE

Mr. Jim Brownell (Stormont—Dundas—Charlottenburgh): When I was elected as MPP for Stormont—Dundas—Charlottenburgh in 2003, I had the redevelopment of my riding's three hospitals as my top priority. For too long, the people of Cornwall and Winchester and points between had been promised development for the St. Joseph's Complex Continuing Care Centre, the Cornwall Community Hospital and the Winchester District Memorial Hospital that never materialized.

The citizens in my riding and I had found a good friend in Health Minister George Smitherman, who understood what those hospitals meant to our community. St. Joseph's centre is now well under construction. I had the opportunity yesterday to cut the ribbon on the first phase of the early works development at the Cornwall Community Hospital, with the rest of the project slated to start in 2008. And it was my privilege to announce yesterday that the Winchester District Memorial Hospital is going to tender, looking toward the first shovel in the ground this summer.

With these three hospital projects, a new community health centre and other health care supports, my riding is undergoing a health care renaissance that will ensure that my constituents have access to some of the finest health care facilities anywhere in Ontario. These redeveloped hospitals will serve as another attraction to businesses and families looking for a place to settle.

The McGuinty government has demonstrated that it understands the needs of eastern Ontario and is willing to act on them. I want to thank my friend the Minister of Health and all the staff, volunteers and board members of the three hospitals for the work they have done in reshaping the health care landscape in Stormont—Dundas—Charlottenburgh.

ONTARIO ECONOMY

Mr. Bruce Crozier (Essex): I rise in the House today to talk about the economic capacity of this great province of Ontario. We have a plan and it's working. We're investing in schools, in apprenticeships and job skills training, and in our colleges and universities, because a highly skilled labour force is a highly competitive labour force.

We're improving our health care system every day. This makes us a more attractive location to set up business.

We're also investing in research and innovation to ensure our place in the economy and the future. While our manufacturing sector faces stiff international competition, we will stay the course on our strategy to support projects expected to yield the greatest results for Ontario.

Unfortunately, when the leader of the third party sat at the cabinet table, job prospects in Ontario were almost non-existent. You were more likely to have your contract ripped up than renewed. He now wants to create a jobs commissioner, the same position that was cancelled in British Columbia.

We prefer to put money into proven programs that help retain and create jobs in Ontario, such as our AMIS and OAIS programs. Through AMIS, or advanced manufacturing investment strategy, we've supported eight innovative projects that will generate almost $370 million in new investments and support the creation or retention of about 3,000 jobs.

Unlike the leader of the third party—

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Thank you.

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

Mr. David Orazietti (Sault Ste. Marie): I would like to comment on the NDP's dismal and regressive stance on the environment. As discussed in yesterday's Toronto Star column, environmental groups are now speaking out against some of the third party's environmental stances, including their contradictory position on coal—come on, make up your mind.

The leader of the third party's embarrassing display during a press conference on his climate change plan also served as further proof that the NDP are putting their partisan agenda above Ontarians' needs. It's clear that the NDP are not serious about the environment or tackling climate change; they're only interested in scoring cheap political points.

The leader of the third party continues his constant flip-flopping on coal plants and his belief that they should be shut down in the south and kept open in the north. The NDP also voted against the Energy Conservation Responsibility Act, which would put mechanisms in place to give Ontarians greater control over their energy use and cost.

Their record while in government was abysmal. They cut $500 million out of the Ministry of the Environment budget, cancelled conservation programs that would have saved 5,200 megawatts, and pledged to enact a safe drinking water act but never did.

The McGuinty government has shown real leadership on the environment. We have passed the Clean Water Act and the Greenbelt Act and updated the parks act for the first time in 50 years. We have increased water inspection staff by 25%, implemented a deposit-return system at the LCBO and brought in hundreds of new megawatts of clean energy. That's real leadership.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

PAYDAY LOANS ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR

LES PRÊTS SUR SALAIRE

Ms. DiNovo moved first reading of the following bill:

Bill 224,

An Act respecting payday loans / Projet de loi 224, Loi traitant des prêts sur salaire.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.

The member may wish to make a brief statement.

Ms. Cheri DiNovo (Parkdale—High Park): In an editorial on Wednesday, May 2, the Toronto Star wrote: "Crack Down on Payday Gouging"

"When Kim Elliott first borrowed $250 from a payday lender after her partner lost his job, she had no idea that the couple would entangle themselves in an escalating series of loans that would ultimately cost them $20,000 in interest and fees in less than three years….

"Queen's Park should now use the powers Ottawa has conferred"—

The Speaker: The member needs to just describe the bill.

Ms. DiNovo: Sorry, I was setting it up. What I'm trying to do in this bill is cap at 35% the interest rate charged by legalized loansharking companies, called payday loan companies. This is what Quebec has done; this is what we should do. This is what the federal government has asked us to do, and yet this government refuses to do it. All they in fact have done—

The Speaker: Thank you.

BONE MARROW AWARENESS

MONTH ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR LE MOIS

DE LA SENSIBILISATION

AU DON DE MOELLE OSSEUSE

Mr. Crozier moved first reading of the following bill:

Bill 225,

An Act to make the month of November Bone Marrow Awareness Month / Projet de loi 225, Loi visant à désigner le mois de novembre Mois de la sensibilisation au don de moelle osseuse.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.

The member may wish to make a brief statement.

Mr. Bruce Crozier (Essex): Making the month of November Bone Marrow Awareness Month supports the work of both the Canadian Blood Services and the Katelyn Bedard Bone Marrow Association by raising awareness of the need to increase the size of the volunteer donor pool in order to better the chances of finding a matching bone marrow donor for every patient in need of a transplant.

MOTIONS

HOUSE SITTINGS

Hon. David Caplan (Minister of Public Infrastructure Renewal, Deputy Government House Leader): I move that, notwithstanding any other order of the House, pursuant to standing order 9(c)(i), the House shall meet from 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on Tuesday, May 15, 2007, for the purpose of considering government business.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Mr. Caplan has moved government notice of motion 355. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry?

All those in favour will say "aye."

All those opposed will say "nay."

In my opinion, the ayes have it.

Call in the members. This will be a five-minute bell.

The division bells rang from 1351 to 1356.

The Speaker: All those in favour will please rise one at a time and be recognized by the Clerk.

Ayes

The Speaker: All those opposed will please rise and be recognized by the Clerk.

Nays

The Clerk of the Assembly (Ms. Deborah Deller): The ayes are 47; the nays are 22.

The Speaker: I declare the motion carried.

STATEMENTS BY THE MINISTRY

AND RESPONSES

ELECTORAL REFORM /

RÉFORME ÉLECTORALE

Hon. Marie Bountrogianni (Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, minister responsible for democratic renewal): I'm pleased to rise today to announce that this morning I received the final report and recommendation from Ontario's Citizens' Assembly on Electoral Reform. This report marks the success of the most ambitious and far-reaching democratic renewal initiative in Ontario's history.

Au cours des huit derniers mois, 103 Ontariens et Ontariennes se sont réunis presque tous les deux week-ends pour se renseigner sur les systèmes électoraux, délibérer et, finalement, présenter une recommandation à la population ontarienne.

These individuals also led public consultations in their own communities across the province. They wanted all Ontarians to have a chance to voice their opinion on the way we elect our MPPs. In total, over 30 public consultation meetings were held across the province. I had the chance to attend the meeting held in Hamilton and was very impressed by the level of discourse, understanding and passion on this important topic.

I've also been impressed by the sense of commitment and enthusiasm by the members of the citizens' assembly. When I met with the assembly members two weeks ago, they told me this experience had been a privilege. They undertook their responsibility to consider this important decision on behalf of their fellow Ontarians with all due respect and seriousness.

I'm sure all members on both sides of the aisle can agree that this has truly been democracy in action; a democracy that belongs to Ontarians, not just their elected officials.

This is the McGuinty government's vision of Ontario's democracy. It's a democracy where each citizen participates in building a better society and each elected official takes responsibility for strengthening the voice of the citizens they serve.

Accepting this task did not come without its sacrifices. For some assembly members, it meant previous time away from their families, their children, spouses and friends. For others, it meant postponing holidays and vacations such as March break. It also meant long hours of travel from all across the province to get to the Toronto meetings. Work schedules and child care responsibilities had to be juggled.

I'm really proud and honoured to say that some of the assembly members are with us here today. Please show your appreciation for the work they have done.

Some of the members even continued to work through tragic personal loss and illness.

Pour tout cela et leur dur travail, je désire remercier les membres de l'Assemblée des citoyens.

Mr. Speaker, I'm pleased to tell you that there are a number of members here today—I just thanked you again. So there we go again. Sorry.

I'd also like to acknowledge the citizens' assembly secretariat for their contribution and once again point to a number who are in the gallery today. Where's the secretariat? Wherever they are, thank you very much.

I'd like to extend a special thanks to George Thomson, chair of the citizens' assembly. His steadfast belief in the process and exceptional leadership were essential to the success of this assembly.

In the months ahead, I invite all Ontarians to participate in this unprecedented examination of our electoral system. I look forward to reading this report and reviewing its recommendation.

L'Assemblée des citoyens a proposé un autre système électoral sur lequel la population sera appelée à se prononcer. En effet, tous les citoyens de la province auront la possibilité de faire un choix en votant au référendum, qui coïncidera avec les prochaines élections provinciales, le 10 octobre 2007.

Bill 218, if passed, requires the Chief Electoral Officer, an independent officer of the Legislative Assembly, to undertake this education campaign. If this legislation is passed, Elections Ontario will deliver a neutral public education campaign to raise awareness of the referendum and to educate the public about the alternatives under consideration.

On behalf of all Ontarians and all the members of this House, once again, thank you to the citizens' assembly for all your hard work and dedication.

IMPAIRED DRIVERS

Hon. Donna H. Cansfield (Minister of Transportation): I rise in the House today to speak about the Ontario Community Council on Impaired Driving's Arrive Alive—Drive Sober campaign. This campaign is a great tool to raise awareness and to remind drivers that drinking and driving do not mix. This year, the campaign is also focusing on the fact that drinking and boating is just as dangerous.

In 2006, alcohol was a factor in approximately 38% of the fatal boating incidents in Ontario. In fact, 36 people died in boating incidents that year. That's why, last year, I was pleased to see the passage of legislation that tackles drinking and boating.

In the very first boating season after the new laws were passed, 40 boat operators were charged with impaired operation of a vessel and also received an immediate 90-day administrative driver's licence suspension. So, if you're caught drinking and operating a motorized or non-motorized boat, you will be subject to the same penalties as drinking and driving. These include an immediate 12-hour suspension of your driver's licence if you register in the "warn" range—that's .05 to .08 blood alcohol concentration, or the BAC, and a 90-day suspension of your driver's licence if you register over the .08 BAC.

You'll have a one-year suspension of your driver's licence the first time you are convicted of an alcohol-related Criminal Code charge, and you will be hit with a large increase in your insurance premiums.

These programs apply to anyone convicted of operating a boat while impaired, including power boats, jet skis, dinghies, canoes and sailboats. Depending on the number of times they've been convicted of driving while impaired, a person could lose their driver's licence for life.

Ontario has some of the toughest drinking and driving laws in Canada. On top of the driver's licence suspensions I've just mentioned, we have a mandatory ignition interlock program, mandatory alcohol assessment, education or treatment and follow-up, and a vehicle can be impounded if a person is caught driving while their driver's licence is under suspension for a Criminal Code driving-related offence.

Our government wants to make our laws even tougher. Last month, I introduced legislation in this House to protect Ontarians from drinking drivers. If passed, this legislation would increase roadside driver's licence suspensions for drunk drivers, allowing the courts to take vehicles away from repeated drinking and driving offenders and establish an early ignition interlock program for Criminal Code offenders.

With this proposed legislation, the McGuinty government is delivering on its commitment to ensure that Ontario builds upon its successful record as a leader in road safety by keeping our communities safe and by keeping our families safe. But we need more than legislation; keeping people's feet to the fire on this issue is critical. That's why I was so pleased to note that Phil McNeely, my parliamentary assistant, was with the council this morning to help launch their campaign and their passport to safety—a long advocate of ensuring that we have safety on our roads.

This passport, which is nice and small and folds neatly anywhere, has some great tips for having fun responsibly. As well, it also has a clear reminder of the costs of drinking and driving. The council's message is simple: Drunk drivers have no place on Ontario's roads or Ontario's waterways.

Before I conclude, I would especially like to thank our police and fire and paramedics for the hard work that they do in keeping Ontarians safe on our roads. We will continue to raise public awareness among young people and among all drivers on this issue. Let's work together to convince people to make responsible choices this summer, be it on land or on water.

AMATEUR SPORT /

LE SPORT AMATEUR

Hon. Jim Watson (Minister of Health Promotion): I had the pleasure today of hosting a reception honouring the achievements of Team Ontario and its first-place win at the 2007 Canada Winter Games in Whitehorse, Yukon.

I'd like to draw to the attention, in the members' galleries on both sides, athletes, coaches, managers and mission staff who did this province very proud and won the Canada Winter Games flag. Please give a warm welcome to our athletes and our coaches. Stand up.

I was especially pleased that parents, friends and supporters of our Team Ontario members also joined the reception to celebrate the achievement of these fine ambassadors for sport and healthy living. We just have a fraction of the number of individuals who were able to join us. We had about 150 athletes in the Macdonald Block earlier today, out of about 300 from all of Team Ontario. I was pleased that a number of MPPs from all parties were able to attend, including Premier McGuinty, who came by to wish the young people the very best. I was also pleased that they were joined by many coaches and managers and supporters of Team Ontario.

L'année 2007 était la huitième année où Équipe Ontario rapportait le drapeau des Jeux d'hiver du Canada, une réalisation extraordinaire, d'autant plus extraordinaire avec un grand total de 112 médailles, dont 37 médailles d'or, 35 d'argent et 40 de bronze, sans compter la réalisation d'exploits personnels pour beaucoup d'athlètes.

Tous les Ontariens sont fiers de ces réalisations. Les membres d'Équipe Ontario sont des modèles qui inspirent les Ontariens et Ontariennes, peu importe leur âge et leurs aptitudes, à être physiquement actifs et à pratiquer des sports.

Mr. Speaker, 2007 was the eighth time that Team Ontario has brought home the Canada Winter Games flag, an outstanding achievement this year, with a total of 37 gold medals, 35 silver medals and 40 bronze medals, for an amazing 112 medals in all and many new personal bests.

All Ontarians are proud of these achievements. Team Ontario members are role models and inspire Ontarians of all ages and abilities to be physically active and to participate in sport. These athletes are shining examples of youth reaching their full potential. All of them are balancing school, work and athletic excellence.

Just this morning I received an e-mail from a father of an athlete who left yesterday for Amsterdam to represent Canada as part of our national women's rugby team. He wrote, "I am reminded that I have been remiss in not writing to the minister to thank the government" of Ontario "for the Quest for Gold program. It has made a real difference in helping her to participate." He also passed along his best wishes and sincere thanks to our Premier and the finance minister.

I also want to congratulate Team Ontario's chef de mission, Blair McIntosh from the Sport Alliance of Ontario, and an employee of the Ministry of Health Promotion, Anita Comella, the assistant chef de mission, for a job well done. The Ontario mission was presented with the Claude Hardy Award, which recognizes the talent and dedication of a mission team at a given Canada Games. Congratulations to those very fine individuals and all of the volunteers.

Le gouvernement McGuinty, par le biais du ministère de la Promotion de la santé, accorde une grande importance aux sports amateurs, car nous reconnaissons le rôle important du sport dans nos collectivités et ses bienfaits pour la santé physique et mentale des gens.

Cette année, un certain nombre de programmes et services de financement offriront un appui de 23,5 $ millions au sport amateur.

The government, through the Ministry of Health Promotion, is committed to amateur athletics because we recognize the significant role that sport plays in our communities and the contribution it makes to people's physical and mental health. This year, the number of funding programs and services we will provide to amateur sport includes $23.5 million in financial assistance.

We marked a notable achievement just this past February. I had the pleasure of announcing an impressive and substantial milestone for Ontario's athlete funding. In 2006-07, funding for the Quest for Gold program was close to $10 million. This represents the single largest funding announcement in support of athletes in Ontario sport history. Approximately $7 million of the Quest for Gold funding was provided directly to Ontario athletes through the Ontario athlete assistance program.

This means that more than 950 of Ontario's amateur athletes received between $3,500 and $8,000 to cover living, training and post-secondary tuition costs from the program. The balance of the funding was directed to enhance coaching and training and competitive opportunities.

I am equally excited about the fact that Minister Sorbara, on behalf of Premier McGuinty, announced an additional $10 million for the Quest for Gold program for the next fiscal year. This investment sends a signal to the athletic community that we are in the business of supporting amateur sport. We'll continue to work with our provincial and multisport organizations.

I thank Jim Bradley—not the Jim Bradley we know, but Jim Bradley the president of the Sport Alliance of Ontario—and Doug Rosser, the chair of the Sport Alliance of Ontario, for the work they do to help our ministry to develop our athletes from playground to podium and provide resources and training opportunities for coaches and sport leaders.

We want to make physical activity fun and accessible for all. I'm proud of the action this government is taking to improve participation in amateur sports throughout the province of Ontario, but we certainly recognize that there is much more work to be done.

In conclusion, these athletes, coaches and managers have done all of Ontario proud. I'm particularly proud I have Ms. Kreviazuk, a member my riding, here today. She has a famous cousin, Chantal Kreviazuk, but today she is the famous Kreviazuk because she went out and won a gold medal for Ottawa from the riding of Ottawa West—Nepean.

At an early age, these young athletes and their supporters dedicated themselves to the pursuit of high-level physical performance and excellence. They are here today in the Legislative Assembly as role models for all Ontarians.

I want to sincerely thank you for taking time out of your schedules. Thank you to the mission staff and thank you to the parents, as Premier McGuinty said earlier today. They wouldn't be able to succeed without the financial, emotional and passionate support of the parents and family members. We're very, very proud of you. Thank you for being here, and continued success. Merci beaucoup.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Responses?

Mr. Norman W. Sterling (Lanark—Carleton): First of all, on behalf of John Tory and the Progressive Conservative caucus of Ontario, I'd like to congratulate the Team Ontario athletes. I'm particularly proud that I had 11 representatives on those teams from the area I represent, Lanark—Carleton. In particular, I would like to congratulate both Jennifer Dunev and Jennifer Klowak, who are both bronze and silver medal winners in fencing. I want to tell them that I will be calling them tomorrow to use their skills in the upcoming provincial campaign.

I want to thank all of the athletes and their parents for their dedication.

ELECTORAL REFORM

Mr. Norman W. Sterling (Lanark—Carleton): Next, I want to briefly respond to the minister responsible for democratic renewal. It's somewhat illustrative that many members of the citizens' assembly who were here for the minister's statement have left at this particular time. That is a show of exactly how this process has gone from start to finish, and that has been that it's a Liberal government process from the beginning, through the legislation to the end.

The ability of the Legislature to alter this process, to have input into this process, has been limited at best. Look at the last three pieces of legislation for democratic renewal. One bill, former Bill 62, was pulled by the government and put into

schedule 11 of the budget bill, buried way, way back in the—what has democratic renewal got to do with the budget bill? Nothing, yet it's hidden in there.

Debate on Bill 155, which sets out the referendum rule: guillotined by the government, limiting debate in the Legislature on a democratic renewal forum. What's going to happen to Bill 218, another one dealing with our election process? It was time-allocated, guillotined in terms of debate in this Legislature.

We congratulate all the members of the citizens' assembly for what they did for the government of Ontario. We know they worked hard to come up with their proposals. But they should know that this is a Liberal government initiative. The question they are going to put to the people of Ontario will not be approved by the Legislative Assembly of Ontario; it will be approved by the Liberal cabinet only. We find that distasteful and it puts great question into the whole process.

IMPAIRED DRIVERS

Mr. John O'Toole (Durham): It's my privilege to respond to the Minister of Transportation on behalf of the opposition and our leader, John Tory. We would like to pay tribute to the members of the community who have worked hard to prevent impaired driving and to commend the Ontario Community Council on Impaired Driving for their leadership and programs they have delivered to reduce—or eliminate, indeed—impaired driving in Ontario. Through its Arrive Alive program, there is an increased awareness in death and injury caused by impaired driving.

Impaired driving, people should know, is Canada's number one criminal cause of death. On average, over four Canadians each day are killed.

Unfortunately, the McGuinty government has cut the funding to OCCID, along with that of the Ontario Safety League, which they have continued to argue—it is about time they finally recognized the member from Oak Ridges, Frank Klees, for the work he has done on Bill 203, which is being debated in this House as we speak, to make our roadways safer in Ontario, and also to recognize the good work done by the member from Simcoe North, Garfield Dunlop, on his initiative on ignition interlock, which again is part of the defence against impaired driving.

It's very clear, in response to the minister, that preventing impaired driving is a community responsibility. It takes police, parents and all civil-minded people to work together to get this right. Finally, after some time, they have recognized the work done by the previous Minister of Transportation, Frank Klees.

AMATEUR SPORT

Mr. John O'Toole (Durham): In the little time I have left I also want to pay respect to the citizens of the 2007 Canada Winter Games from my riding, great youth role models: Tyler Cuma, Colin Fish, Jerome Gabriel, Caitlyn Hellingman, Andrea Madgett, Kyle Matuk, Robert Nelson, Robert Scott, and Tara Watchorn. Thank you for your leadership and youth in action program.

Ms. Shelley Martel (Nickel Belt): On behalf of New Democrats, I congratulate the Team Ontario athletes for their outstanding performance and victories at the 2007 Canada Winter Games in Whitehorse.

I'm sorry to see that some of the athletes were ushered out before the opposition had a chance to make their comments, so I hope that the Hansards will be sent to them because we did want all of them to hear what we had to say.

We are thrilled to see you here; we are very glad that many more of you were also here earlier on to be publicly acknowledged in a very formal way: the athletes, coaches, managers and supporters.

To our youth athletes who are here, I want you to know that we are very proud of your ability, your talents, your dedication and your commitment—most of all for your incredible energy to balance your work, school and athletic abilities all at the same time. I'm not sure how all of you do that.

Secondly, to the coaches and managers who serve as mentors to these young athletes, we thank you for your tremendous work in inspiring these athletes to be the best they can be and to still have fun.

Finally, last but not least, to the parents who sacrifice a great deal of time and money to support your sons and daughters: There isn't a more important job that you could do as parents to help your child realize their goals, and we thank you for that very important work that you do.

We say to all of the athletes who are still here, we know that we will hear many great things about all of you in the future and we look forward to that. Thank you for being here today.

ELECTORAL REFORM

Mr. Michael Prue (Beaches—East York): In response to the minister for democratic renewal, I had the opportunity this morning to be at Hart House and to meet 60 or so of the members of the citizens' assembly, 60 out of the 104 who actually participated.

I want to preface all of my remarks by thanking them from the bottom of our hearts for what they did over all these weekends, what they did over all of this period of time—the time they spent away from their families, the time that they spent studying and working, the time that they spent trying to come up with a new system, perhaps a better system, for the people of the province of Ontario.

I am mindful about what I saw on page 16 of the report. I have had a chance to read it in its fullness, not once but twice. The people came from all over the country: 66 from Ontario, 11 from other provinces and a remarkable 27 from outside of Canada, where they were born. They speak many languages; they have many, many occupations, but they came together as one group, and they came together to make a difference.

They came together, in the end, perhaps, to challenge the orthodoxy of an institution which has, remarkably and justifiably, served Ontarians and Canadians well throughout our entire history, but in fact an institution that is now 750-plus years old and which perhaps is in need of change. There is no doubt that they have served us well, but time and expectations change and so did the attitudes of these 104 people.

The minister has said in her speech, "I look forward to reading the citizens' assembly's report and reviewing its recommendations." I don't know, maybe I'm a faster reader, but I've already had a chance to do that and I'd just like to say that the opportunity today is upon us.

I had an opportunity to meet Catherine Baquero, who was the representative from Beaches—East York. In fact, it was my first opportunity to meet her. She was a delightful young citizen. I had an opportunity to hear George Thomson, as the chair, outline the process. I had an opportunity to meet the secretariat and the people who worked so hard, and I had the an opportunity to read the 27-page report.

The recommendations are found near the end of the report, I believe on page 25 or thereabouts, and there are 10. The fundamental one, of course, is the institution of a mixed member proportional system, and there are 10 sub-recommendations which will take us to that recommendation, and perhaps—and I hope—a better system. The citizens are to be commended.

But in the 49 seconds I have left, I have to ask about the government and their commitment. We have three bills before us. We have a question which has yet to be decided and which is the sole prerogative of the minister and not of this Legislature—the only Legislature in Canada that has not had an opportunity to debate the question. No amount of money has been apportioned. The citizens recommended some $13 million; there is no budgeted amount. And last but not least, there is the 60% threshold, which in our view is unconscionable. Some of the citizens today told me that the 60% was perhaps too high a threshold to actually see change.

I commend them for giving us voter choice, fair election results and local representation in their recommendations.

VISITOR

Hon. Harinder S. Takhar (Minister of Small Business and Entrepreneurship): On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: One of our pages, Sridaya, has her mother, Sandhya Srivatsan, here in the Legislature. I would like to welcome her because the page is very proud of her.

ORAL QUESTIONS

YEAR-END GRANTS

Mr. John Tory (Leader of the Opposition): My question is for the Premier and it concerns the McGuinty government's year-end spending. The Minister of Finance provided us with a list last Thursday that shows that over the last two years, the Premier's government has spent nearly $4 billion in a last-minute mad rush: $2.4 billion in 2005-06 and $1.4 billion in 2006-07. This past December, the Auditor General slapped the McGuinty government's wrists for this practice, but the government continues to do it.

My question for the Premier is this: So we can all see just how fast this money was rushed out the door, and knowing the government has an obligation under the standing orders to publish these treasury orders eventually in any event, will the Premier make public the treasury board orders or other spending orders authorizing this mad rush, year-end spending?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty (Premier, Minister of Research and Innovation): I'll refer this to the Minister of Finance.

Hon. Greg Sorbara (Minister of Finance, Chair of the Management Board of Cabinet): Let me just tell my friend what he already knows, that all expenditures of the government occurring any time during the year become part of the public accounts of the province of Ontario, and those are published every year within 180 days of the presentation of the budget. That's a new provision, part of our program of transparency, and indeed, the expenditures for 2005-06 were published in last year's public accounts.

But let me tell him that every single one of those expenditures supports the programs of this government, whether it's in the area of education, post-secondary education, community and social services, energy, government services or any other ministry.

Mr. Tory: As is the custom, that was not an answer to the question. We all know that the public accounts ultimately contain all of the expenditures of the government, six months later. We also know, however, that many of these expenditures made in a big rush at the end of the year were authorized by treasury board or other authorizations. All we're asking is, why don't you show us those so we can see how fast you spent the money, when you spent it and so on?

The Auditor General, in his report this past December, said, "In many cases, normal accountability and control provisions were reduced or eliminated to ensure the transfers would qualify for immediate expensing prior to the ... fiscal year-end." He also went on to say, "We continue to have concerns specifically regarding the relaxing of normal controls shortly before the fiscal year-end for unplanned transfers the government makes to its service delivery partners."

This is taxpayers' money. The McGuinty government spends it in a mad rush, and all we have right now to show for it is that you're telling us to wait six or eight months. We want to know how mad the rush was. If you don't have anything to hide, if the minister doesn't, why don't you make those treasury board orders public right now?

Hon. Mr. Sorbara: I'm absolutely fascinated by the way in which the leader of the official opposition frames a question to which he already knows the answer, because he has actually spent quite a bit of time here. He knows that all treasury board orders are gazetted. The Ontario Gazette is a public document. Those become available to every member of the House, to every political party, to every citizen. He knows that.

He should know as well that year-end expenditures for 2006-07 represented, in the main, a flow through of federal revenues for public housing and social housing around the province. He also knows, because I read it in my budget, that the year-end spending also provided some $400 million in infrastructure assistance to colleges and universities. If he wants to go on, I could go through this list all afternoon. I am very proud of those investments.

Mr. Tory: What I also know is that the McGuinty government will not publish those treasury board orders in the Ontario Gazette until months and months from now, well after the election, because they don't want anybody to see these details of how they rushed the taxpayers' money out the door—no controls, no formal process. To quote the Premier, "Just like that"—taxpayers' money.

So if there is nothing to hide, then I ask you this question: Last year, on March 23, you spent $3.5 million a minute. On March 30, you spent $1.5 million a minute in those cabinet meetings. The Auditor General said this kind of practice of rushing taxpayers' money out the door should stop, but you didn't stop; you kept doing it. All we're asking is: How big a slushy did you pour yourself with the taxpayers' money? If there's nothing to hide, then we ask the minister to make those treasury board orders public now—not six months or nine months from now—so the people can see what care you did or did not take with their money.

Hon. Mr. Sorbara: I would just put it back to my friend, the Leader of the Opposition, whether he thinks in those year-end expenditures, and I just want to get the figure correct here, that the $2 million that went to Bethel House in his riding—he himself asked for his name to be included on the press release because these funds were very much needed for that hospital.

I would just put it to you very simply: The good news is that in the last three months of the last fiscal year, the province saw additional revenues. Most of that went to reduce the deficits that we inherited from them. Some $1.4 million went to the priorities established by this government, and we're very proud of those expenditures.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Order. New question, the Leader of the Opposition.

Mr. Tory: My question is again for the Premier and again it concerns the government's year-end spending practices.

Methinks the minister doth protest a bit too much. We're just asking—by the way, I've never asked once to have my name on any of your press releases; I don't think I would want to. But having said that, we have $4 billion in year-end spending from this government spread out over two years.

The Auditor General, that officer of this Legislature, raised concerns about this last December, and the Premier said in response to that report, "We are implementing every single recommendation of the Auditor General." That's on December 5, and yet a few months later you guys are at it again, blowing money out the door like there's no tomorrow. The Premier confirmed on April 27, when he said the money went "out the door"—no application form, no formal process—"just like that," millions of dollars.

If the Premier took proper care and if there's nothing to hide, why won't the Premier make public those treasury board orders now so we can see exactly what he did with the taxpayers' money?

Hon. Mr. McGuinty: I know the Minister of Finance has provided a great deal of information on this.

The leader of the official opposition would have us believe that we should be providing more co-operation to the Auditor General and that he has a good deal of respect. Yet, when we broadened the powers available to the Auditor General and said that he should be able to look at universities, schools, hospitals and government agencies like children's aid societies, he and his party voted against that very measure. When we said that the Auditor General should have the authority to vet all government advertising, they voted against that particular measure.

When we said that the Auditor General should be given the responsibility to review public finances before an election in order to determine whether a government could ever again hide a deficit, they voted against that measure.

Clearly, we're all for ensuring that the Auditor General can do his job—

The Speaker: Supplementary?

Mr. Tory: I'll simply add to that list: When we on this side of the House—the New Democrats and ourselves—asked 286 questions for the Auditor General to be brought in to examine the spending done in this disgraceful slush fund scandal, it took three weeks for the Premier to finally agree to bring him in.

On December 6, 2006, the Premier said, "We have to be very careful when it comes to how we deal with taxpayer money." He made reference that day to more transparency and accountability. Then, weeks later, we see the slush machine working overtime, with 1.4 billion taxpayer dollars out the door in a mad rush.

The Premier claims this money just fell into his lap. He said that he and his finance minister knew about it just at the last minute, which is an incredible admission of bad management—they knew about $1 billion in extra money belonging to the taxpayers at the last minute.

I ask again, will the Premier make available to the taxpayers, to the media, to us and to the public the treasury board orders and other orders for this past year so we can see just how mad the rush was to blow taxpayers' money out the door at the last minute?

Hon. Mr. McGuinty: I think it's important to take a look at some of the year-end expenditures and investments that are now opposed by the leader of the official opposition.

We invested $670 million in a new subway expansion. We invested $82 million in Viva transit in York region. We invested $2.5 million in Durham transit; this is going to benefit the members from Whitby—Ajax, Oshawa and Durham. I would think they would be in support of that particular investment.

We've invested in sports centres as well. Port Colborne, for example, is going to build a new twin-pad hockey arena, pool, track and skate park as the result of a $3-million investment. I know the member opposite is very much going to support that investment we're making in Port Colborne.

When it comes to Brampton, there's the AcceleRide program. We've invested an additional $95 million through year-end expenditures.

I think those are important, worthwhile objectives. If the leader of the official opposition is saying he does not support those, then he should stand up and say so.

Mr. Tory: What the Leader of the Opposition will stand up and say is this: Surely you don't expect anybody to believe that you just found out about having this extra money, as you call it, from the taxpayers at the last minute. It's an incredible admission of bad management if you really expect anybody to believe that. And surely you don't also expect the taxpayers to believe you just came up with these ideas to support these worthy projects at the end of the year.

The point we're making is this: When it is the taxpayers' money, we believe you have an obligation to spend every cent with as much care, as much responsibility, as much scrutiny and as much accountability as you would any other day of the year, and we don't think that is being done.

All we've asked is that you help us by making available documents that, as the minister says, will be made available in due course anyway, months after the election, to show us just how much care was or was not taken in rushing this money out the door.

Why will the Premier not agree to make those documents available right now? Is there something being hidden here?

Hon. Mr. McGuinty: I know that Ontarians are entitled to know where the money went, but apparently the leader of the official opposition is unhappy with these kinds of investments.

Let me list a few more: $392 million into affordable housing; $390 million into our colleges and universities; $35 million into the new Niagara Falls convention centre; $28 million into the Ottawa Congress Centre; $50 million into the MaRS Discovery District.

When it comes to fixing connecting links to highways, $775,000 went into Barrie, $92,000 went into Renfrew, $85,000 went into Pembroke, $941,000 into Durham, $420,000 into Wellington and $410,000 into Timmins. Those, once again, I would argue, are eminently worthwhile, are in keeping with the greater public interest and are supported by the people of Ontario. I think the leader of the official opposition should just come out and say that he does not support these kinds of investments on behalf of Ontarians.

NORTHERN ECONOMY

Mr. Howard Hampton (Kenora—Rainy River): My question is for the Premier. Premier, under your government, Ontario has now lost 175,000 good-paying manufacturing jobs. What has become very clear is that your government is prepared to do virtually nothing in the face of this job loss.

My question is this: Can the Premier tell working families across Ontario why he has done virtually nothing to stop this hemorrhaging of good jobs when it took you only eight days to raise your own pay by $40,000 a year?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty (Premier, Minister of Research and Innovation): Obviously, I take issue with the entire premise of the leader of the NDP's question. I would argue that no government in the history of this province has been more activist when it comes to helping business, industry and labour cope with the difficult and challenging transition they've got to go through in order to be more productive and more competitive in a globalized economy.

Whether you're talking about our $500-million investment in the auto sector, which has leveraged $7 billion and 7,000 new jobs; whether you're talking about the close to $1 billion that we've invested in the forestry sector to help strengthen that particular part of our economy, which is so important to northern Ontario but especially northwestern Ontario; whether you're talking about the money that we're investing in the agriculture sector—again, close to $1 billion—we have done much, I would argue, by way of investment in and support for Ontario industry, Ontario workers, Ontario families and Ontario communities.

Mr. Hampton: It's amazing that the Premier would mention the forest sector. Everyone in northern Ontario knows that the only thing you've done there is destroy tens of thousands of jobs. But now the McGuinty government has its sights set on another industry. Diamond mining was set to become a major source of jobs and economic activity in northern Ontario, especially for First Nations communities. Once again, the McGuinty government has demonstrated how out of touch it is on this issue by almost tripling the diamond mining royalty and putting the big freeze on that part of the mining industry.

My question is this: Premier, First Nations leaders came here to Queen's Park to ask you to rethink your diamond royalty policy. Are you going to listen to those First Nation leaders?

Hon. Mr. McGuinty: To the Minister of Finance.

Hon. Greg Sorbara (Minister of Finance, Chair of the Management Board of Cabinet): Just to remind my friend that this Premier has not only visited the mine but visited with those First Nations communities.

This is the first time I have ever heard a leader of the NDP or anyone from the NDP argue against a fair level of taxation for resources that are coming out of this soil. The mining royalty represents a fair royalty on net profits that arise from the new mine in the north of this province.

He should know that the royalty that applies is the very same royalty that applies to all diamond mining in Canada, notably those mines across the northern part of this country in the territories—one royalty which applies to diamond mining wherever it takes place in Canada.

Mr. Hampton: The Minister of Finance leaves out the fact that there's only one other jurisdiction in Canada that has a diamond mine: the Northwest Territories.

But that is beside the issue. The First Nations leadership that came here represents some of the lowest-income communities in this province. Attawapiskat First Nation is one of those. It has a sky-high unemployment rate. In many cases, three and four families are living in three-bedroom bungalows because they can't afford housing. Yes, the Premier was very happy to go have his picture taken at the mine and in the community and then come back to Toronto and say, "Now we're going to triple the mining rate." It's the First Nations leadership. De Beers can look after itself.

These are some of the lowest-income communities in the province, and they say you're taking their economic future away from them. Are you going to listen to them or are you going to take their economic future away? Which is it?

Hon. Mr. Sorbara: I'm surprised and disappointed at the outrageous scaremongering tactics of my friend the leader of the NDP, as if somehow this royalty, which is a fair royalty applied anywhere in Canada, will somehow reduce new employment opportunities for aboriginal peoples in the north. In fact, the revenue that we raise from this royalty is the revenue that we are reinvesting in the northern part of the province and with those communities. In addition—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Order.

Interjections.

The Speaker: The member for Timmins—James Bay.

Interjections.

The Speaker: Member for Timmins—James Bay.

Mr. Gilles Bisson (Timmins—James Bay): Go visit those communities.

The Speaker: I will not warn the member for Timmins—James Bay again. Minister?

Hon. Mr. Sorbara: I know that De Beers, a very successful international mining company that mines diamonds all over the world, has lobbied just about everyone they can to get a lower tax rate. I just want to say publicly in this House that we have committed to De Beers that in this royalty, which is a royalty on net profit, to the extent that they are investing in aboriginal communities, the royalty will be less and be reduced and support—

The Speaker: New question.

Interjections.

The Speaker: Order.

Interjections.

The Speaker: I name the member for Timmins—James Bay, Mr. Bisson.

Mr. Bisson was escorted from the chamber.

The Speaker: New question. The leader of the third party.

Mr. Hampton: My question is to the Premier, because the Premier was only too happy to go to Attawapiskat First Nation and to go to this mine. What the First Nations are saying is this: They have an impact benefit agreement negotiated with De Beers. The First Nation's concern is that now that you've come in and tripled the mining royalty, you're going to deprive the First Nation of some of the revenue that they would have gotten through their impact benefit agreement. I want to ask the Premier this: Do you think it's fair that you should be taking money away from some of the lowest-income First Nations people in Ontario in order to make your own pocketbook look better?

Hon. Mr. McGuinty: To the Minister of Finance.

Hon. Mr. Sorbara: Let me just explain once again to my friend that the royalty on diamond mining in Ontario represents a royalty on net profit. As the net profit of De Beers grows, the royalty will grow from about 6% to 13%. It is a net profit royalty. We are now, as I said earlier, negotiating with De Beers to determine what can be deducted as an expense. And I'll tell my friends once again, including my friend from Timmins—James Bay, who has just left us, that part of that discussion involves specific investments by De Beers in the native community, which will be an expense that can be deducted from profit and therefore reduce the ultimate level of the royalty.

Mr. Hampton: The Premier and his Minister of Finance can talk all about their backroom discussions with De Beers. This is about the First Nations: First Nations that have a terrible situation with youth suicide; First Nations that have unbelievable unemployment rates; First Nations where people are looking for a future. And for the first time, they were saying, "Some of our people have an opportunity to get a job. Some of us have an opportunity to start a business." What they see is the McGuinty government coming in and scooping up the revenue, which has a direct and an indirect impact on them.

I'm simply saying that you can tell the media all you want about your discussions with De Beers. What about the aboriginal people, the First Nations people, who wanted a job and wanted a future, and see that you're taking that away from them? What about them?

Hon. Mr. Sorbara: The diamonds in the north part of this province belong to the people of this province, including those communities that my friend thinks he's arguing on behalf of. There's no doubt that De Beers—a very successful international company—would like to have a much lower tax rate, but there's an interest in those resources that belongs to all the people of this province. I want to tell my friend that the way in which those native communities, who are going to benefit tremendously from this initiative, are being used to further the interests of De Beers gives me great disappointment, and I am sorry to see the leader of the third party participate in it.

Mr. Hampton: We've heard a lot of hot air from the finance minister. I want to quote some of those First Nation leaders. Mushkegowuk Grand Chief Stan Louttit: "Northern Ontario generally is benefiting from this mine. We need to continue doing that. This tax hike jeopardizes future development. What's going to happen...? Are we going to continue wallowing in Third World conditions...?" Or the chief of Attawapiskat, Mike Carpenter: "We weren't aware of this. We were never consulted, so it came as a surprise to us. We've already negotiated an impact benefit agreement with De Beers.

We don't know how this tax hike is going to affect us." This is not De Beers speaking; these are First Nation leaders speaking, First Nations who are struggling with 85% and 90% unemployment rates.

My question to the Premier: You are happy, Premier, to go to the First Nations and smile for the cameras. Are you now going to listen to these First Nation leaders and their plight for jobs and a chance at economic activity?

Hon. Mr. Sorbara: I'm aware of the fact that the owners of this company have made some suggestions that it is going to be First Nations communities that are going to suffer as a result of this tax, and I regret that, because it is not true.

Three things you need to know, sir: First of all, this level of taxation is the same royalty rate as applies to the other major diamond mines in Canada in the Northwest Territories. Second, you need to know that 13 million people in Ontario have an ownership interest in those diamonds. The third thing you need to know is that our negotiations with De Beers are designed to ensure that the benefit of that mine is shared most particularly with the aboriginal communities in that part of the province. In all three areas, we are going to be successful.

IMMIGRANT SERVICES

Mr. Frank Klees (Oak Ridges): My question is to the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, and it does not refer to the year-end slush fund. In defending his indefensible actions relating to the trust fund, though, the minister repeatedly referred to two agreements signed in 2005, the Ontario-Canada labour market agreement and the Ontario-Canada immigration agreement, under which some $300 million was transferred from the federal government to the provincial government to provide very specific services, many of which the minister was responsible for delivering.

I would like to know from the minister if in fact RFPs were issued for the provision of those services that he oversaw, and I would like him to clarify if he would table those RFPs with the House.

Hon. Mike Colle (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration): I think the member doesn't understand the basic premise of the Canada-Ontario immigration agreement. The basic premise is that, rather than the federal money flowing into the treasury of Ontario and then providing services, the agreement specifically says that the federal programs that are already in place will be enhanced so that the money goes directly into expanding programs and services that for 20 years Ontario newcomers were being shortchanged on. So the money flows directly to the service providers and the programs that the federal government is already running and expanding in Ontario.

Mr. Klees: Perhaps the minister should read the agreement that he himself signed in November 2005, because that agreement makes very specific references to the services that the province is responsible for delivering, and

section 7.2, which is headed "Accountability," if the minister has not read it, refers specifically to two things that the minister has responsibility to do: one is to share information on program investments and results with respect to the respective settlement and language programs on a fiscal-year basis; and second, that that information be made public as to accountability and reporting.

What I will ask the minister to do now is to tell us whether he has complied with

section 7.2 of the agreement that he wrote—and if he has, where is the tabling of that report?

Hon. Mr. Colle: This is incredible coming from that member, who sat in this chamber as a minister for nine years and never once raised the issue of the shortchanging of newcomers in Ontario—never raised it once. I ask him to stand up on his feet and tell me one time that he raised the fact that Ontario newcomers were being shortchanged and tell me what his government did to ensure that shortchanging had to end. We're proud that we stood up for newcomers and got the resources in Ontario. They never even mentioned it once when they were in government.

ACQUIRED BRAIN INJURIES

Ms. Shelley Martel (Nickel Belt): My question is to the Minister of Health. Adam Crabtree of Hamilton has an acquired brain injury. After receiving three months of hospital treatment, Adam was discharged from Chedoke's acquired brain injury program. On April 17, he was transferred to St. Joseph's Villa, a long-term-care home in Hamilton. Adam is 20 years old. Minister, do you think it's appropriate for 20-year-old Adam to be placed in a long-term-care home?

Hon. George Smitherman (Deputy Premier, Minister of Health and Long-Term Care): I know that the matter at hand is one that the local community care access centre and the local health integration network have been involved in, in helping to ensure that the individual receives a good deal of quality care. There are numerous younger people across the province of Ontario who are finding that the level of care offered in a long-term-care home is the appropriate one.

I have one of these individuals in my family, from the member for Lanark—Carleton's riding—if I've got the riding right—and I can attest to a very high quality of care for that individual, who similarly is of a very young age. But if the honourable member has more that she would like to inquire about with respect to the nature of the care that's being provided, I'd be very happy to follow up.

Ms. Martel: Adam's in a long-term-care home because there were no community services for him, and he's not the only one in that position. Ken Vandelight has an acquired brain injury. He's been at the Elizabeth Centre long-term-care home in Val Caron in my riding since October 2006. He's 27. After three months in Chedoke's ABI program, Travis Bailey of Hamilton was also destined for a long-term-care home, but his parents intervened. He lives at home with his parents but without all of the brain injury services that he needs. He is 23.

The Ontario Brain Injury Association says this is a major crisis that your ministry has been aware of since 2005; that 449 brain injury survivors are waiting up to 14 years for proper ABI services. Minister, what are you going to do today for young people like Adam, Ken and Travis so they're not forced into a long-term-care home?

Hon. Mr. Smitherman: First off is to acknowledge that from time to time, the level of care that is appropriate will be found for our residents' long-term care. And I do say that I believe, based on what I've seen, that for some this is appropriate. Of course, we depend on clinicians to be able to give the appropriate advice.

I can tell the honourable member that, standing in very sharp contrast to the record she performed while her party was in office, we've made very substantial increases in the resources available to support people with ABI. As people continue to acquire brain injuries, one would assume of course that it's necessary to continue to make funding enhancements to support more people in the community, and I would be very happy to look into these particular cases that the honourable member brings forward.

ELECTRICITY SUPPLY

Mrs. Carol Mitchell (Huron—Bruce): My question is to the Minister of Energy. Since day one, this government has been committed to bringing more clean and renewable power on line than any government before us. We understand the importance of giving Ontario homes and businesses the power they need when they need it without compromising the environment.

While we have been clear when it comes to the need to combat climate change and smog, it's unfortunate that the member from Kenora—Rainy River hasn't. Even Jack Gibbons of the Ontario Clean Air Alliance says, "We're surprised that Hampton hasn't taken a very strong leadership role on climate change and the coal phase-out." When asked about the NDP's position on coal, Mark Winfield of the Pembina Institute says, "There are moments when that could be clearer."

Minister, can you reassure this House that the government will remain steadfast in its commitment to closing our coal plants and bring more clean and renewable energy on line to ensure that Ontario has the sustainable energy—

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): The question's been asked. Minister?

Laughter.

Hon. Dwight Duncan (Minister of Energy): The members of the third party laugh, but when they're in northern Ontario, they say, "Keep the coal plants open," and when they're in southern Ontario, they say "Close the coal plants." The Pembina Institute and the Ontario Clean Air Alliance have all said what's abundantly clear, and that is that the NDP is anything but clear on climate change.

Emissions are down 32% in our coal plants, even though the New Democrats opposed those measures. I'd also remind my colleague who asked the question that it was the New Democrats who cancelled the Conawapa project, which would have brought clean, green, renewable hydroelectric power—

The Speaker: Thank you.

Mrs. Mitchell: Minister, I can't stress the importance of our commitment—

Interjections.

The Speaker: Order. I need to be able to hear the member for Huron—Bruce.

Mrs. Mitchell: Minister, I can't stress the importance of our commitment to clean, renewable, affordable and reliable power enough. We must also be committed to conservation. It must play a key role in keeping our energy system affordable and reliable.

It was a proud day when the Energy Conservation Responsibility Act was given royal assent, the first of its kind in Canada. It was unfortunate, however, that the NDP, including the member from Kenora—Rainy River, voted against it.

Through conservation, we can all work to reduce peak demand during the winter and summer months, and we should be exploring every opportunity to do it. While the NDP chooses to play politics with conservation, this government owes it to Ontarians to move forward aggressively on conservation. Minister, what is our government doing to ensure that Ontarians have the tools they need to help Ontario build a culture of conservation?

Laughter.

Hon. Mr. Duncan: Again the NDP laugh about this.

Hon. Gerry Phillips (Minister of Government Services): Yes, they are; they're laughing.

Hon. Mr. Duncan: They're laughing. Let's just look at the record. This summer, five new province-wide conservation programs will come online that every Ontario resident can participate in. Let's compare that to what happened in the 1990s during the government that Mr. Hampton was part of.

Power saver month, which encouraged customers to purchase more energy-efficient products at local retailers with reduced prices, was cancelled. The refrigerator cashback program, which we are putting back into place province-wide this summer—the New Democrats cancelled it. Energy-efficient lighting, incentives for renovation retrofit—was it the Tories that cancelled that? No, it was the New Democrats. They try to be all things to all people. They've got no record—

The Speaker: Thank you. New question.

IMMIGRANT SERVICES

Mr. Frank Klees (Oak Ridges): To the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration: I'm not sure that the minister fully understands the agreement that he signed on November 21, 2005. I have it here, and I can deliver it to him if he likes. But it does make very specific reference to funding that is transferred from the federal government to the Ontario government. It specifically speaks to the kinds of services that are to be delivered, and it talks about settlement services, language training, immigrant and labour market integration—the same kinds of services the minister has been telling us he has been providing.

My question is very straightforward: In funding the agencies that are delivering these services, has he issued RFPs so that we know the services that are being provided are being done so in the most efficient and cost-effective way?

Hon. Mike Colle (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration): I think the member from Oak Ridges is confused. Let me tell him again. The programs that have been provided by the federal government for a number of years were programs that were underfunded. The immigrant who came to Ontario was getting $800, on average, from the federal government—programs like LINC for languages or ISAP for settlement services or host programs. These programs were underfunded because if an immigrant went to Quebec, they would get about $3,400 to $3,800.

So when the agreement was signed, it meant that the Ontario programs would start to reach those Quebec levels. They're finally doing that. They're slow—maybe that's what the member should be talking about—because the government in Ottawa isn't funding as fast as it said it would in the agreement. Maybe that's what he should be raising rather than the fact that the Ontario taxpayers have been funding this for years by themselves.

Mr. Klees: I would then like to redirect the minister's attention to the agreement that he signed under

section 7.2, which speaks about accountability. Under that section, he is required as the minister to file annually a report that deals with the services being provided and the accountability issues. If he's saying it's slow, we all need to know about that.

My question to the minister is very straightforward: Has he filed, as required, his annual accountability report under the terms of this agreement, and if so, where is it?

Hon. Mr. Colle: Again, this just demonstrates how out of touch that member has been. We said emphatically to the previous Liberal government, we've said it to this government, that that agreement had to be signed quickly because the underservicing was doing great damage to our newcomer communities. We finally signed the agreement, and that money started to flow into the programs. We in Ontario have been doing this by ourselves for too long. We provide our own ESL programs, $50 million a year; we provide great programs for internationally trained doctors; we provide bridge training programs for nurses and dietitians. We've been doing this by ourselves.

Now the member stands up and says, "Who's accounting?" He should be asking for the accounting of the feds—the past government or this government: Why hasn't the money ever been invested here? At least we're thankful we're finally seeing the money where it should be in Ontario. Thank God for that.

EDUCATION FUNDING

Mr. Rosario Marchese (Trinity—Spadina): My question is to the Minister of Education. Minister, in the Halton area, parents and educators are forced to raise money from the community to purchase reading materials for students with special needs. It seems to me that the minister has subcontracted her responsibilities to parents by forcing them to raise funds for school essentials. The question is this: Does the minister find it acceptable that parents and teachers raise funds to purchase reading materials for students with special needs?

Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne (Minister of Education): It's very interesting that the party opposite has not once acknowledged that the funding that has gone into the publicly funded education system under this government is beyond imagining, given what the previous government did: $2 billion out of education; $3.5 billion into education in the province.

As I have said previously in this House, the issue of fundraising is one that I take very seriously. I understand that it's an issue that we have to pay attention to. Fundraising is much more than just the dollars and cents that communities raise for projects. It is about community cohesion. It is about community-building. It's something that has been around for a very, very long time—under that member's watch as a school trustee as well. It is the responsibility of school boards to make sure that resources are allocated equitably. We've put more money into education to deal with the basics.

Mr. Marchese: The minister is absolutely right: The lack of funding is beyond imagining. Minister, ponder the following: In Huron—Bruce, parents have to fundraise to buy math books. In Hamilton, Ancaster High School is forced to fundraise to purchase computers and technical equipment. St. Sofia school in Mississauga raises funds to purchase books and gym equipment.

The minister may find this question oversimplified, but parents demand a simple answer. Does the minister believe it is okay for parents to be forced to raise funds for math books, computers and gym equipment?

Hon. Ms. Wynne: Does the member opposite believe that it was appropriate, when he was in office in 1991, for people in Toronto to be raising money for computers? The member opposite—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): Order. We're wasting time. Order.

Minister?

Hon. Ms. Wynne: The member opposite claims that there has been no money for the things that parents are fundraising for. In fact, we have put in $32 million for school libraries. That's $6,600 for every school library. There are 7,600 new support staff under this government, including librarians, including library technicians. The member opposite has claimed publicly that there's only $25 million that has been spent on repairs in our schools. That is ridiculous. Boards have had access to $4 billion under Good Places to Learn.

The member opposite finds it impossible to look at what's happening in publicly funded education and understand that we are rebuilding where the previous government tore down. He should be supporting us at every step of the way if he believes in publicly funded education.

ABORIGINAL EDUCATION

Mr. Bill Mauro (Thunder Bay—Atikokan): My question is for the Minister of Education. When we announced more changes to the funding formula, specifically the First Nations, Metis and Inuit education supplement, the leader of the third party stood in his place and said, "The McGuinty government boasts that it is going to provide $177,000 in funding for aboriginal education for the Lakehead District School Board this year. However, when you look at the big numbers, the ... board is now receiving ... less ... funding from the government as compared to two years ago."

This is the same leader whose party ignores the fact that we have made an additional investment of $3.5 billion in our public schools, won't mention the fact that class sizes increased under his party's mandate, won't bring up the fact that the NDP promised to increase provincial funding of education but didn't, and won't talk about the social contract or how they legislated striking teachers back to work three times.

Minister, can you please clarify for my constituents and this House the investments we've made in this particular board?

Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne (Minister of Education): What the member for Kenora—Rainy River should have said is that it's about time an Ontario government stood up to the challenge of funding education for aboriginal students in our provincially funded schools. In the Lakehead District School Board, there are almost 3,000 fewer students than in 2003. That's a 23% decrease in students. But even with declining enrolment, even in the face of declining enrolment, we have invested in the Lakehead District School Board. We put $3.1 million more into the Lakehead District School Board.

That's $68,000 per school, a 33% increase over what the board had. So in the face of declining enrolment, we've recognized that the board needs support. They've got bricks and mortar and residual costs, and we have invested in them. We're increasing funding so that boards across the province, including in Kenora—Rainy River, can run their schools.

Mr. Mauro: Minister, I'm certain that my constituents now understand the connection between our investments in publicly funded education and the results of those investments, like smaller class sizes and higher test scores.

I understand that in our continued refinements and changes to the funding formula, we introduced the First Nations, Metis and Inuit education supplement. This grant is extremely beneficial to northern Ontario schools, as many of our First Nations, Metis and Inuit reside in the north. It is also a change to the formula that the leader of the third party dismisses as "tinkering around the edges" of the funding formula.

Minister, can you please inform this House as to why this is an important change and how it will benefit our students in the north?

Hon. Ms. Wynne: I don't think we can overstate the importance of this new grant to aboriginal students across the province. It's really shocking to me that the members opposite would take that tack.

I want to quote from the Daily Miner and News, which stated, "Pride streamed across the faces of Keewatin-Patricia District School Board members and administration April 10 upon reporting their hard work in a province-wide initiative." It's that pride that was confronting us when we introduced this new grant.

The advocate for the province-wide initiative was none other than Ms. Janet Wilkinson, the director of education for the Keewatin-Patricia District School Board. She has been advocating for this exact change. In fact, here's what she said: "I am so proud of what this government has done by acknowledging for the first time that education for aboriginal students has to be recognized. There is recognition for the first time in the funding model for aboriginal students, and the projects being supported will generate new approaches to ensuring aboriginal students have equal opportunity."

ELECTRICITY SUPPLY

Mr. John Yakabuski (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke): My question is for the Minister of Energy. Energy stakeholders, business leaders and citizens across this province are expressing grave concern that we won't have an adequate supply of energy this summer. They tell me that last year you caught a break. It was a much cooler summer, and we had adequate rainfall. But with forecasters calling for a hot, dry summer this year, and very little in the way of spring freshet, and your failure to bring new, adequate supply online, our supply is tenuous.

Can the minister assure this House and the people of Ontario that as a result of his mismanagement, we won't see rolling blackouts this summer in the province?

Hon. Dwight Duncan (Minister of Energy): This is a very serious matter that this government has taken a number of steps on. I would point out that the Independent Electricity System Operator's report projects our ability to meet our power needs this summer as being very good, something that did not happen when the member opposite's party was in. In addition, the IESO will be releasing a further report in June. We are now in the process of making sure all routine maintenance on our various nuclear reactors, coal plants and so on is being looked after.

That does not preclude that we could run into trouble this summer in the event of some kind of unanticipated situation. It's a serious matter. I remind the member opposite that last summer, everyone had the same blessings. Alberta, California and New York had voltage reductions; Ontario did not. And last year, for the first time in almost a generation, Ontario was a net exporter of power.

Mr. Yakabuski: Minister, as they say to me, we're one bad break away from a blackout. I would like to bring to your attention—which the minister has not let the House know—the delays with regard to the Sithe Goreway project in Brampton, which you guaranteed would be online and offering interim power this summer. We now know that that project has been further delayed and will not be available this summer. That's 875 megawatts. From time to time we hear an announcement here and an announcement there about a megawatt there or a megawatt there, or 10 megawatts here, all going long into the future.

But you assured us last year that this project would be online to supply the needs of the western GTA. We know now that it won't be online. Minister, what have you got as a contingency when your plan is shown to have failed?

Hon. Mr. Duncan: Actually, in terms of the IESO's planning forecast, they didn't take that plant into consideration, so the 3,300 megawatts that's online doesn't include that.

I will agree with the member on one statement: We are one bad break away from a problem, and that's another Tory government. That's the bad break that could happen. Under that member's watch, this province lost a net equivalent of 1,800 megawatts of power. That's the equivalent of Niagara Falls running dry. And all the while they had secret slush funds for former Tory staffers, $400,000—it's like a rogue's gallery of old Tories: Paul Rhodes, for one. A whole bunch of them all got money. They hid it from public view.

They wanted to privatize the sector—and in fact the member is right; it was Sithe Goreway that agreed to have power online this summer, and it's they who haven't met their undertaking, not the government. This government has set back on track the power system that that party single-handedly destroyed in just eight short years.

CONSUMER PROTECTION

Ms. Cheri DiNovo (Parkdale—High Park): My question is for the Minister of Government Services. The most vulnerable in our community, including those on your $8 minimum wage and low-income families, are barely getting by and have limited access to reasonable financial services. They find themselves as repeat customers of payday loan sharks who charge criminal rates. The CBC cited one woman whose $500 loan took five years to retire, paying an additional $9,500 in interest and other fees.

With federal Bill C-26, Ontario now has the capacity to regulate the industry. The bill I've introduced actually sets an interest rate limit of 35%, to end the criminal rates that you would rather see just advertised with posters on the windows of loan sharks. Minister, will you stop these payday loan companies and support my bill to license and cap interest rates at 35%?

Hon. Gerry Phillips (Minister of Government Services): The member, I think, should know that we advocated the right move, which was that the federal government should have been responsible for regulating this industry. The consumer groups advocated that as well, as you know.

It was, I guess, two weeks ago that the federal government passed legislation saying they're not going to do that. What we then did was to move—and we're the first province to do this—to ensure that the consumer at least knows exactly what is happening in terms of interest rates. The second thing we did was, we're now asking for advice on how we should proceed going forward with payday lending. I look forward to that advice. I've yet to see the member's bill, but I look forward to seeing the bill.

Over the next few weeks we will be getting input from the public on exactly how, long-term, we should be responding to payday loans. But, as I said, I would have preferred that the federal government act; they didn't, and we're moving forward now.

Ms. DiNovo: My question is to the minister. Discussion papers, reports, Ernst and Young, ACORN, Statistics Canada and the financial industry have already given you all the information you know. You've been doing nothing since your government first brought up the issue in 2005. Carol Goar said it best in the Toronto Star. She said, "1,000% interest 1,000% wrong." When will you actually work to do something to stop this criminal gouging of our most vulnerable citizens? When will you work to cap the interest rates, as Quebec has done and as other provinces have moved to do, at 35%?

Hon. Mr. Phillips: Again, I'm looking forward to the public having some input in this. I would just say to the member that one of the challenges is that there is competing advice. I have, from the NDP, Mr. Kormos's private member's bill, which is very different than your private member's bill and proposes a very different approach. So you can appreciate that as we are getting advice, we do have competing advice. Until today, I had Mr. Kormos's bill, which took a different approach than your bill.

But I look forward to examining your bill, his bill and other advice even though they may conflict with each other, and we will go forward in a way that represents the best possible interest for the public.

FOREST FIREFIGHTING

Ms. Monique M. Smith (Nipissing): My question is for the Minister of Natural Resources. We're all familiar with the challenges that the MNR is facing with the current forest fire situation. I note that last week the member for Kenora—Rainy River wrote a letter about the forest fire situation. This letter was nothing more than fearmongering. I quote: "Given the serious understaffing that exists in MNR district and area offices across the north, how does the McGuinty government plan to protect northern Ontario forests, industries and communities from potentially devastating forest fires this season?"

Minister, can you please explain to this House the current forest fire situation and, more importantly, why the comments made by the leader of the third party are so irresponsible and nothing more than the politics of fear?

Hon. David Ramsay (Minister of Natural Resources, minister responsible for aboriginal affairs): I was very disturbed by the fearmongering that was put on by the leader of the third party last week. We've got a very challenging fire season ahead. But as a former Minister of Natural Resources, the leader of the third party should understand that there's a limited capacity when it comes to firefighting in the province of Ontario. We have 700 firefighters who are actively going there, and 160 of them are on standby.

We have already responses in with our agreements from BC and Wisconsin, from Alberta and the Northwest Territories. We're on top of this. It's a challenging year, but we've got the capacity to do it.

Ms. Smith: Thank you, Minister, for those assurances for the people of northern Ontario and all of Ontario. The leader of the third party's fearmongering tactics are not acceptable. His letter went on to state that "as a result of repeated cutbacks by the McGuinty government, MNR district and area offices are severely understaffed and under-resourced across northern Ontario."

Today in this House the member for Parry Sound—Muskoka also chimed in with his point of view. I want to point out to you that within this House there are members of former governments and former ministers who, when given the chance to show leadership on these issues, chose reckless cuts over making investments and protecting our resources for future generations.

I have seen first-hand that the McGuinty government is taking action and that we've made some headway in correcting these problems. Can you share with this House the measures our government has taken to improve your ministry?

Hon. Mr. Ramsay: Over the term of our office, we have increased the budget of the Ministry of Natural Resources by 23%, 6.45% this year alone. That's an extra $44 million we've got to put into capacity, unlike the leader of the third party, who cut $144 million from the MNR budget when he was minister. So we're acting here, we're building up the ministry, unlike that member, who cut down the MNR years ago.

VISITORS

Hon. Michael Bryant (Attorney General): On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: One of the great, great chief justices, really, in the history of the Commonwealth, a great Canadian, our former Chief Justice of the Superior Court, the Honourable Patrick LeSage, is in the members' gallery.

We're having a vote today on Bill 103. Without the Honourable Patrick LeSage, Bill 103 would never have happened. I know all members of this House and the public owe the Honourable Patrick LeSage a great debt of gratitude. We thank you, sir.

Mr. Rosario Marchese (Trinity—Spadina): Another quick point of order, Mr. Speaker: I'd like to welcome the students of Rick Hansen Secondary School and their teacher Angelo Kontos to this question period.

Mr. Bob Delaney (Mississauga West): On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: I recognize my colleague from Trinity—Spadina in trumping my point of order to say to the gang that I hope you enjoyed the show.

Mr. Michael Prue (Beaches—East York): On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: I would just like to remind the members that the OLIP reception is today. All of the people who have worked here so very hard this year—our interns—would like to see you very much. Show up at 5:30. I hope all members can attend.

Mr. Bruce Crozier (Essex): On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: I want to remind the members as well that there will be a reception in the Legislature for the independent insurance brokers of Ontario, of which I was a member for three short years, and I'm pleased now that I'm here rather than there.

The Speaker (Hon. Michael A. Brown): That is not a point of order. It is time for petitions.

PETITIONS

MINISTRY OF

TRANSPORTATION OFFICE

Mr. Tim Hudak (Erie—Lincoln): I present a petition about reopening the Grimsby MTO office. It reads as follows:

"To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

"Whereas Grimsby is a growing community with an increasing demand for government services; and

"Whereas people want and deserve to have a real person providing friendly and knowledgeable assistance to citizens rather than a computer terminal; and

"Whereas the Dalton McGuinty government doubled fees for drivers' licences, meaning Grimsby residents are paying more but could be receiving less in services;

"We, the undersigned, request as follows:

"That the McGuinty government immediately seek to find a permanent operator for the Grimsby MTO office to provide in-person, friendly customer service to the people of Grimsby; and

"Furthermore, that the McGuinty government should accelerate this process and reopen the MTO office without any further delay."

Beneath the signatures of Lynn and Hilbert Vanderplaat, I assign my signature.

DISABLED PERSONS

PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM

Mr. Bruce Crozier (Essex): I'm presenting a petition to the Legislature of Ontario on behalf of the member for Algoma—Manitoulin.

"To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

"Whereas there currently exist problems of exposure to theft and the weather when displaying a disabled person parking permit on a motorcycle while parked in a disabled parking space;

"We, the undersigned, petition our members of Parliament to promote the development of a special, fixed permit as proposed by the Bikers Rights Organization, for use by disabled persons who ride or are passengers on motorcycles, even if that requires an amendment to the Highway Traffic Act."

I put my signature to this petition as well.

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

Mr. Toby Barrett (Haldimand—Norfolk—Brant): These petitions are titled Rural Ontario Needs Transit Support Too. There are 1,075 names from the Dunnville area, gathered by Dianne Scott from Dunnville.

"To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

"Whereas public transit services in the communities of Haldimand and Norfolk counties have declined to the point of virtual nonexistence;

"Whereas people in these communities require bus service just as much as those in urban areas to access medical services, get to appointments at nearby towns and visit family;

"Whereas communities in Haldimand and Norfolk counties have received no substantial money to support any form of public transit from the provincial government;

"Whereas the McGuinty government has allocated a two-cents-a-litre gas tax initiative to support public transportation in urban areas of the province; and

"Whereas despite paying into the province's two-cents-a-litre gas tax initiative, residents of rural municipalities like Haldimand and Norfolk counties are effectively shut out of this growing source of cash support for transit;

"We, the undersigned, ask the Ontario government to investigate the establishment of connecting public transit links between Haldimand county and Norfolk county communities and outlying municipalities, as well as to establish a mechanism to ensure rural municipalities receive the full benefit of the gas tax transit initiative."

I agree with these sentiments, and I affix my signature to these petitions.

SOCIAL SERVICES FUNDING

Mr. Bob Delaney (Mississauga West): I have a petition to the Ontario Legislative Assembly, and I'd like to thank Catholic Family Services of Peel for having sent it in. It's entitled Fairness for Families in the 905 Belt. It reads as follows:

"Whereas the population of the Greater Toronto region will increase by an estimated four million more people in the next generation, with the bulk of that growth coming in the 905 belt of fast-growing cities located north, east and west of Metro Toronto; and

"Whereas these cities are already large and dynamic population units, with big-city issues and big-city needs, requiring big-city resources to implement big-city solutions to social issues and human services needs;

"Whereas the 2007-08 Ontario budget proposes aggressive and badly needed increases in operating funding to build and strengthen capacity in developmental and social services agencies and to invest in helping the young, the weak, the needy and the vulnerable; and

"Whereas the social and human services sectors in the 905 belt have historically received per capita funding far below that of other regions despite facing far greater growth in the populations they serve, and this per capita funding gap has increased in the last four years;

"We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:

"That the 2007-08 Ontario budget implementing measures to strengthen Ontario's families be passed without delay, and that the first priority for the allocation of new funding in meeting the government of Ontario's commitment to fairness for families flow to the social services agencies serving cities within the 905 belt, and that funding for programs to serve the 905 belt be allocated to established or growing agencies located within the 905 belt."

I think this perfectly encapsulates a very commonly held sentiment in the 905 belt, and I'll ask page Sridaya to carry it.

POPE JOHN PAUL II

Mr. Garfield Dunlop (Simcoe North): "Petition to the Parliament of Ontario:

"Whereas the legacy of Pope John Paul II reflects his lifelong commitment to international understanding, peace and the defence of equality and human rights;

"Whereas his legacy has an all-embracing meaning that is particularly relevant to Canada's multi-faith and multicultural traditions;

"Whereas, as one of the great spiritual leaders of contemporary times, Pope John Paul II visited Ontario during his pontificate of more than 25 years and, on his visits, was enthusiastically greeted by Ontario's diverse religious and cultural communities;

"Therefore we, the undersigned, petition the Parliament of Ontario to grant speedy passage into law of the private member's bill by Oak Ridges MPP Frank Klees entitled

An Act to proclaim Pope John Paul II Day."

DISABLED PERSONS

PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM

Mr. Dave Levac (Brant): On behalf of the member from Manitoulin.

"To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

"Whereas there currently exist problems of exposure to theft and the weather when displaying a disabled person parking permit on a motorcycle while parked in a disabled parking space;

"We, the undersigned, petition our members of Parliament to promote the development of a special, fixed permit as proposed by the Bikers Rights Organization, for use by disabled persons who ride or are passengers on motorcycles, even if that requires an amendment to the Highway Traffic Act."

I sign my name to this petition in support of such an action.

POPE JOHN PAUL II

Mr. John Yakabuski (Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke): I have a petition to the Parliament of Ontario:

"Whereas the legacy of Pope John Paul II reflects his lifelong commitment to international understanding, peace and the defence of equality and human rights;

"Whereas his legacy has an all-embracing meaning that is particularly relevant to Canada's multi-faith and multicultural traditions;

"Whereas, as one of the great spiritual leaders of contemporary times, Pope John Paul II visited Ontario during his pontificate of more than 25 years and, on his visits, was enthusiastically greeted by Ontario's diverse religious and cultural communities;

"Therefore we, the undersigned, petition the Parliament of Ontario to grant speedy passage into law of the private member's bill by Oak Ridges MPP Frank Klees entitled

An Act to proclaim Pope John Paul II Day."

I support this petition and affix my name to it, and send it down with page Doug.

DISABLED PERSONS

PARKING PERMIT PROGRAM

Mr. Ernie Parsons (Prince Edward—Hastings): I'm presenting this petition on behalf of the member for Algoma—Manitoulin.

"To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

"Whereas there currently exist problems of exposure to theft and the weather when displaying a disabled person parking permit on a motorcycle while parked in a disabled parking space;

"We, the undersigned, petition our members of Parliament to promote the development of a special, fixed permit as proposed by the Bikers Rights Organization, for use by disabled persons who ride or are passengers on motorcycles, even if that requires an amendment to the Highway Traffic Act."

I'm pleased to add my signature to this petition.

GASOLINE PRICES

Mr. Joseph N. Tascona (Barrie—Simcoe—Bradford): I'm very pleased to rise today and present a petition to the Legislature which reads as follows:

"Whereas the price of gas is reaching historic price levels; and

"Whereas provincial and federal governments have done nothing to protect consumers from high gas prices; and

"Whereas provincial tax on gas is 14 cents per litre and federal tax is 10 cents per litre, plus 6% GST; and

"Whereas these taxes have a detrimental impact on the economy and are unfair to commuters who rely on vehicles to travel to work; and

"Whereas the province has the power to set the price of gas and has taken responsibility for energy prices in other areas, such as hydro and natural gas; and

"Whereas we call on the province to remove the 14.7-cents-per-litre gas tax and on the federal government to eliminate the 10-cent gas tax, plus 6% GST, which amounts to 30% or more;

"We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario and urge the Premier to take action and to also persuade the federal government to remove its gas taxes."

I support the petition and affix my signature.

PARENTING EDUCATION

Mr. Kevin Daniel Flynn (Oakville): I have a petition to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario that reads:

"Whereas effective parenting practices do not come instinctively and parenting is our most crucial social role, parenting and human development courses need to be taught to all secondary school students. Parenting education will: reduce teen pregnancies; reduce the rate of costly fetal alcohol spectrum disorders and increase the number of healthy pregnancies; reduce the number of costly social problems related to ineffective parenting practices; and improve the 'social fabric' of Ontario to create a more civil society.

Parenting education for students is considered to be socially valuable by a majority of adults of voting age and should be included as a mandatory credit course within the Ontario curriculum;

"We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to amend the requirements for the Ontario secondary school diploma to include one senior-level ... credit course in parenting education ... as a compulsory credit."

I agree with the petition and will affix my signature thereto, and pass it to Julie.

ONTARIO SOCIETY

FOR THE PREVENTION

OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

Mr. Ernie Hardeman (Oxford): I have a petition here to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

"Whereas the Ontario Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (OSPCA) is a registered charity and private police force autonomously enforcing federal, provincial and municipal animal laws under the provincial animal act without any type of provincial oversight or accountability mechanism in place; and

"Whereas, in 2006, resigned OSPCA director and treasurer Garnet Lasby stated, 'Government, not the humane society, should be in charge of enforcing laws to protect animals and to prosecute offenders'; and

"Whereas, in 1989, the Ontario Federation of Agriculture (OFA) formally requested the province step in to remove police powers from the OSPCA; and

"Whereas, in 2006, the Ontario Farm Animal Council (OFAC) stated, 'The number of questions and complaints from the farm community about specific cases and the current enforcement system continues to increase'; and

"Whereas the Animal Care Review Board, a tribunal staffed by volunteers, is the only OSPCA appeals mechanism available outside the court system; and

"Whereas the OSPCA recently received $1.8 million from the province and is lobbying for additional long-term stable funding;

"We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:

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(1) That the Legislative Assembly direct the provincial government to ensure that members of the Animal Care Review Board tribunal are adequately trained in accepted provincial livestock practices and have some legal training to rule competently on issues brought before them;

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(2) That the Legislative Assembly direct the provincial government to investigate the resignation of 29 OSPCA directors (including the chair and the treasurer) who in May 2006 urged 'the province to step in and investigate insane abuse and animal cruelty charges'; and

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(3) That the Legislative Assembly direct the provincial government to appoint an ombudsman to investigate allegations of abuses of police powers against the OSPCA."

I present this petition on behalf of many concerned citizens who have signed it from my constituency.

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

Mr. Jean-Marc Lalonde (Glengarry—Prescott—Russell): I have a petition from the people of Pendleton and Curran.

"To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:

"Whereas we, the concerned citizens of Pendleton, oppose construction of an ethanol plant/biodigester 500 metres from the village;

"Whereas concerns about ecological disasters with the usage of two pipelines five kilometres each, containing manure, commercial greases and fats piped over two waterways and then to be spread over the lands;

"Whereas water consumption and protection when utilizing approximately 16 million litres per year, elevated nitrate levels and land erosion;

"Whereas health and safety concerns, putting a slow-burning gas tank (biodigester) right beside a highly explosive tank (ethanol plant), non-existent fire resources in case of such disaster, adverse effects of gases permeating the air downwind to the village;

"Whereas economic development concerns for our three campgrounds, golf course, restaurant, recreational trail;

"Whereas social development concerns for our two churches and school affiliation to Pope John Paul II;

"Whereas increased financial concerns, as we will all need a water filtration system....

"We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:

"That the provincial government introduce legislation requiring that all construction of mega hog operations, biodigesters and ethanol plants be restricted to a proximity of a minimum of three kilometres of any village."

I do support this petition.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

INDEPENDENT POLICE

REVIEW ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR L'EXAMEN

INDÉPENDANT DE LA POLICE

Resuming the debate adjourned on May 10, 2007, on the motion for third reading of Bill 103,

An Act to establish an Independent Police Review Director and create a new public complaints process by amending the Police Services Act / Projet de loi 103, Loi visant à créer le poste de directeur indépendant d'examen de la police et à créer une nouvelle procédure de traitement des plaintes du public en modifiant la

Loi sur les services policiers.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Ted Arnott): Pursuant to the order of the House dated May 14, 2007, I am now required to put the question.

On April 3, 2007, Mr. Zimmer moved third reading of Bill 103,

An Act to establish an Independent Police Review Director and create a new public complaints process by amending the Police Services Act. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry?

All those in favour of the motion will please say "aye."

All those opposed will please say "nay."

In my opinion, the ayes have it.

Call in the members. This will be a 10-minute bell.

The division bells rang from 1549 to 1559.

The Acting Speaker: All those in favour of the motion will please rise one at a time and be counted by the table.

Ayes

The Acting Speaker: I'm required to ask if anyone's opposed to the motion.

The Clerk of the Assembly (Ms. Deborah Deller): The ayes are 74; the nays are 0.

The Acting Speaker: I declare the motion carried.

Be it resolved that the bill do now pass and be entitled as in the motion.

LONG-TERM CARE HOMES ACT, 2007 /

LOI DE 2007 SUR LES FOYERS DE SOINS DE LONGUE DURÉE

Resuming the debate adjourned on March 29, 2007, on the motion for third reading of Bill 140,

An Act respecting long-term care homes / Projet de loi 140, Loi concernant les foyers de soins de longue durée.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Ted Arnott): When the House last debated Bill 140 at third reading, the member for Nickel Belt had the floor. I'm pleased to recognize the member for Nickel Belt.

Ms. Shelley Martel (Nickel Belt): Speaker, before I begin my remarks, I want to introduce some of my friends who are up in the public gallery today: Lawrence Walter, the government relations officer for the Ontario Nurses' Association; Shalom Schachter, interest arbitration and long-term-care regulation league for the Ontario Nurses' Association; and in the members' gallery I've got Sharleen Stewart, international Canadian vice-president, Service Employees International Union, Local 1.on, Cathy Carroll, secretary-treasurer, SEIU, Local 1.on, and Emanuel Carvalho, SEIU.

Interjections.

The Acting Speaker: Could I ask the House to come to order so that I can hear the member from Nickel Belt. There are quite a number of private conversations going on.

The member for Nickel Belt.

Ms. Martel: Thank you, Speaker. When I was last speaking to this bill on March 29, 2007, I had just gone through the concerns the New Democrats have with the fact that at that time, as we spoke, there still was not a standard in place for care hours per resident per day in Ontario. Here we are, a number of weeks later, and there still isn't a standard with respect to the hands-on care that residents in Ontario long-term-care homes can receive every day. That's one of a number of reasons that we are not supporting this bill.

The second reason is the fact that the government has refused to put into the bill Ombudsman oversight for long-term care. Since as long ago as April 22, 2005, there has been a move among seniors' organizations in particular to have the current Ombudsman have oversight of long-term care. I want to read into the record a letter that was sent to Ministers Smitherman and Bradley from the seniors' advisory committee on long-term care. This is a committee, I should point out, of seniors' organizations that was appointed by this government to give advice and counsel to the government on issues affecting seniors. They said as follows:

"At its March 22, 2005, meeting, a motion was passed by we, the members of the seniors' advisory committee on long-term care in support of the government appointing a seniors' ombudsman for long-term-care home residents and people receiving home care services."

Some members also supported expanding the mandate of the seniors' ombudsman to include all provincially funded programs serving seniors: "This approach will contribute significantly to the health and well-being of older Ontarians; in fact, all Ontarians. Moreover, we believe that establishing the seniors' ombudsman aligns with the government's vision of ensuring seniors live safely and with dignity and receive the appropriate care where they choose to live." That was March 22, 2005.

On February 17, 2006, the Royal Canadian Legion, Ontario command, wrote to Premier McGuinty and said the following:

"I am writing on behalf of the Royal Canadian Legion, Ontario command, to request the expansion of the mandate of the Ombudsman of Ontario to include long-term-care issues. We are supported in this request by our provincial veterans services and seniors committee, our officers, our membership and many of your colleagues in the Ontario Legislature.

"To our chagrin, Minister Smitherman, who once supported the notion, is now suggesting that those who are not comfortable or satisfied with government mechanisms to resolve an issue may direct their issues to community-based channels that exist. None of these community-based groups has the teeth of an ombudsman and we do not even recommend a separate ombudsman. A mere expansion of the jurisdiction and mandate of the office of the Ontario ombudsman is what is needed."

The Legion felt very strongly that, in a meeting that they had with the Minister of Health in 2005, it was communicated to them that the minister was in fact going to establish an ombudsman provision for long-term care. That was why, when the bill was finally introduced in October 2006, they were very disappointed with the fact that there is no provision in the bill for an independent ombudsman or for the mandate of the current Ombudsman to be extended. So they put out a press release dated October 5, 2006, and said the following:

"The announcements made by the Minister of Health, George Smitherman, fall far short of protecting our seniors by not announcing an ombudsman to oversee long-term-care homes and investigate complaints of care. The Legion has received many letters of support from members of the Legislature, including many Liberal MPPs, for the creation of an ombudsman for long-term care. At a meeting in March 2005, the minister asked the Legion to be patient and wait for this legislation"—long-term-care legislation—"to be introduced.

He indicated that his government would have a solution and create an ombudsman to oversee long-term-care homes and investigate complaints of care." Regrettably, that promise was not kept and nowhere in Bill 140 is there a provision for oversight, and the government of course didn't accept my amendment for that same oversight.

Let me tell you what some others who came to the committee had to say about an ombudsman. This is from the presentation made by the Registered Nurses Association of Ontario. The recommendation is the following:

"Create an independent elder health ombudsman's office to receive and process complaints, both from long-term-care residents and from other seniors."

Here's the submission from the Canadian autoworkers: "We join in urging the committee to reconsider the decision to not provide for an ombudsman for residents under this proposed bill, but rather only provide for the possibility of an adviser to the minister and assistant to residents and their families. An ombudsman office is commonplace in the United States as an integral component of their broad regulatory regime for the nursing home industry, and an independent seniors' advocate or ombudsperson office would be a welcome reform for Ontario that fosters integration in service delivery."

The government tried to peddle its proposal in the bill of an office of the long-term-care resident and family adviser as the office that would respond to complaints from those folks who really wanted an independent ombudsman. As hard as they tried to peddle that office as the solution, and the response to those many organizations who wanted ombudsman's oversight, it's clear that they didn't get very far in that spin. Let me read into the record from a number of organizations again that are not satisfied with what the government has offered up and that indeed want an independent person to deal with long-term care. This goes back to the seniors' advisory committee, that same committee