Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 7 November 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 26)

2013-11-07

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 7 November 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 26)

2013-11-07

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

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November 7, 2013 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS

Vol. XLVII No. 26

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman): Order, please!

Admit strangers.

Before we start today's proceedings, I want to welcome a couple of special

guests to our gallery. We are joined today by the Mayor of Bishop's Falls, Bob

Hobbs, together with the Deputy Mayor, Doreen Tremblett, from Bishop's Falls.

Welcome to our gallery.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

Statements by Members

MR. SPEAKER: Today we have members' statements from: the Member for the

District of Bonavista North; the Member for the District of Cartwright L'Anse

au Clair; the Member for the District of Kilbride; the Member for the District

of Torngat Mountains; the Member for the District of Exploits; and the Member

for the District of Humber West.

The hon. the Member for the District of Bonavista North.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CROSS: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I stand today with jubilation to inform all assembled that the

volleyball season is well underway at Pearson Academy.

On the weekend of October 9-13 the Pearson Astros Junior High Male Team was

one of two schools from Newfoundland and Labrador to be invited to the

Scotiabank Classic Volleyball Tournament hosted at Dalhousie University in

Halifax.

The Astros served up a powerhouse attack and blocked with a stunning defence

to complete the tournament successfully and travel home with the gold medal in

their possession.

The Junior Astros, coached by Mr. Craig Loder and Mr. Duke Kelloway was

comprised of Kristopher Winter, Alex Kean, Lucas Hunt, Jonah Winter, Kyle

Gaulton, Zachary Dunn, Dylan Humphries, Alex Melindy, Cameron Gill, and

Mackenzie Landry.

These Grade 7-9 students were remarkable ambassadors for our Province, and

their skill did not outshine their good sportsmanship and congeniality. Coach

Loder looks to a great year of competition and says his team may leave their

mark in many more tournaments this season.

I request a united voice from all hon. members to congratulate the champion

Pearson Astros and recognize their stellar representation of our Province.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Cartwright L'Anse

au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, John F. Kennedy once said, "One man can make a

difference and everyone should try". I rise today to pay tribute to a man who is

certainly making a difference in the fight against diabetes.

While walking on a cold Labrador night and missing his wife Liz who had

passed away with complications from diabetes, he had a thought. He would walk

across Labrador to increase awareness of this disease, raise funds for research,

all the while educating people on the benefits of healthy living.

Mr. Speaker, eight years, 1,800 kilometres, and $40,000 later, Guy continues

his annual trek. This year, at the age of seventy, having covered Labrador from

L'Anse au Clair to Labrador City, he started his walk across the Island. His

most gruelling component will be the Labrador sea ice from Rigolet to Nain, once

he finishes the Island portion. His commitment to this endeavour is commendable,

and important, as this disease continues to escalate in our Province.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all members of this House to join me in paying tribute Guy

Poole, one man who is following his passion and making a difference.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Kilbride.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DINN: Mr. Speaker, Ruby Church in Goulds celebrated its one hundredth

anniversary on September 10, 2013. A group of about twenty-five members of the

Ruby family, the Goulds Historical Society, and other supporters marked the day

by inviting ninety-three-year-old Mrs. Violet Ruby, who was married at St.

Matthew's in 1944, to add a ceremonial dab of paint to the exterior of the

building to signify the work needed to spruce up the structure.

In 1913, a local farmer, George Ruby, built this church because the main

Anglican church was thought to be too far away. While St. Matthew's was never

consecrated as a church, the cemetery was. St. Matthew's was regularly used for

worship until 1964, when St. Paul's Anglican Church was completed just up the

road.

Since then, the Goulds Historical Society has worked very hard to preserve

this structure. In 1988, the building was designated as a registered heritage

structure, having great historical, cultural, and tourism potential. It is

probably the oldest building in Goulds.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all hon. members to join me in commending the Ruby family,

the Goulds Historical Society, and others, for their dedication in preserving

this historical gem.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, I rise in this hon. House today to pay tribute

to the Inuit of Northern Labrador who fought alongside the Royal Newfoundland

Regiment and sacrificed their lives in World War I. I pay particular respect to

Lance Corporal John Shiwak, Charles Mesher, and William Groves, who laid down

their lives at Beaumont Hamel.

Mr. Speaker, many of our Inuit ancestors saw action in World War II, as well.

Some of them included Frederick Frieda, Edward Webb and Thomas Flowers from

Hopedale, Abia Millie from Hebron, Edward Gear, George Budgell, Max Budgell from

Rigolet, Levi Pottle from Back Bay, Job Lane from Big Bay, Abraham Ford from

Black Island, Richard White from Kauk, William Winters from Kammasuk, Douglas

White and Peter Bright from Nain.

Mr. Speaker, many of these Inuit were immediately classified as snipers

because of their superior marksmanship. Mr. Speaker, those Inuit soldiers from

Nunatsiavut were proud to protect their homeland. They fought and died with

their fellow Newfoundlanders and Labradorians so that we can enjoy our freedom

today.

I ask all hon. members to join me in paying tribute to the Inuit soldiers

from Nunatsiavut.

Lest we forget!

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Exploits.

MR. FORSEY: Mr. Speaker, the Lions Clubs International foundation

presents the Melvin Jones Fellowship award to Lions members for the dedicated

humanitarian services to their town, province, and country. The two most recent

recipients of the award are Lloyd Thompson and Arthur Snow; both are members of

the Botwood Lions Club.

Mr. Speaker, criteria for the award includes contributions to the Lions Club

and community, work on projects, and working hard on a volunteer basis for your

community. It is the highest award you can receive in the Lions. The Melvin

Jones Fellowship is named for Melvin Jones, founder of the Lions Clubs

International.

Mr. Speaker, these two gentlemen have over 100 years combined of volunteer

service with Lions. I ask all members of this House to join me in congratulating

Lloyd Thompson and Arthur Snow on receiving this prestigious award.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Humber West.

MR. GRANTER: Mr. Speaker, I stand in this hon. House to congratulate Gary

Graham on receiving a Doctor of Laws degree at Grenfell Campus Memorial

University's spring convocation 2013.

Music teacher, organist, and choir director, Dr. Graham has been a force in

the musical, cultural, and artistic life of Corner Brook since 1966. He has

contributed much to the AIDS Committee of Western Newfoundland, the Status of

Women Anti-Violence Walk, Western Memorial Regional Hospital Foundation, the

Children's Wish Foundation, the Corner Brook Rotary Club, Theatre Newfoundland

and Labrador, and Gros Morne Summer Music. For his efforts and guidance, Dr.

Graham was recognized by the Province in 2004 as one of the first recipients of

the Order of Newfoundland and Labrador.

For his contributions, especially to the many young students he directed in

music and his contributions to the cultural and music fabric of Corner Brook and

Western Newfoundland, I ask all hon. members to join with me in congratulating

Mr. Gary Graham on the conferring of Honorary Doctor of Laws Degree from

Grenfell Campus, Memorial University.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Before we move into Ministerial Statements, I want to

acknowledge two councillors from the Town of Fortune. Dave Holloway and Yvonne

Harris are joining us in the gallery today as well.

Welcome.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Ministerial Statements.

Statements by Ministers

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I rise in this hon. House today to highlight what has been

gained through the recently signed Agreement-in-Principle on the Comprehensive

Economic and Trade Agreement between Canada and the European Union.

Mr. Speaker, years of tough negotiation by the provincial government has

achieved unrestricted access to the richest seafood market in the world, and

created a new era of opportunity for the provincial fishery. Tariff barriers as

high as 20 per cent and end use restrictions on our high quality seafood will be

no more. These gains are expected to generate $25 million for the provincial

fishing industry when the agreement comes into effect, and add as much as $100

million to the industry annually.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, we created an unprecedented cash infusion into the

provincial fishery when we successfully negotiated a new $400 million

federal-provincial industry enhancement fund. With this fund we will advance

research and development. We will explore new marketing initiatives. We will

increase fisheries science activity. We will enhance provincial fisheries

infrastructure. Mr. Speaker, with this fund we will make the industry more

competitive than any other time in its history, and the families that rely on

the fishery will benefit for generations to come.

Working in consultation with industry, we will seize the opportunities

emerging from this Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement by providing

support to processors, both large and small, to help them successfully enter new

markets. We will help harvesters pursue innovations and efficiencies with

harvesting technology. We will support the development of new value added

products that generate employment for plant workers, and we will engage in

promotion that differentiates our products throughout Europe.

Mr. Speaker, the terms negotiated by this Province through CETA are landmark

achievements that are good for the fishery, good for our nation-leading economy,

and good for communities in rural Newfoundland and Labrador. They were made

possible by the vision and tenacity of our Premier, and have the potential to

grow the production value of our fishery well beyond the $1 billion mark it has

already achieved to date.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement.

Mr. Speaker, when we look back on the tenure of this government, the

disasters and the boondoggles, the giveaways and the losses, it will not be the

loss of three paper mills, it will not be the disastrous expropriation of the

Grand Falls paper mill, it will not be the $12 million white elephant that the

Premier, when she was Minister of Natural Resources, approved in Roddickton, an

absolute throwaway; it will be the loss of our historic protein in the fishery.

When the Premier stood up last week, she honoured and said the key mover and

shaker, the key architect of this disaster, was the Deputy Minister of

Innovation, Business and Rural Development, Mr. O'Rielly. Mr. O'Rielly was

appointed February 23, 2006, as the Deputy Minister of Fisheries.

In his biography, as produced by the government, it said, "Mr. O'Rielly

served in management positions with the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador,

including assistant deputy minister with the Department of Fisheries and

Aquaculture." He also worked for Argosy Seafoods and Clearwater Fine Foods. "He

also worked as an independent fisheries development consultant" and he put

together a large clientele of industrial clients.

This is the same gentleman the Premier tasked with putting together the CETA

deal for her, six years in the Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture and now

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I remind the member that his time has expired.

MR. BENNETT: Thank you, Sir.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement, but it is time

government came clean on their plans for the $400 million they will be spending

to enhance the fishing industry.

Mr. Speaker, I ask them: What is their plan? How much will be spent on

marketing, and what will that marketing plan look like? What area of fisheries

science will see extra money? What infrastructure projects are in the works, and

who is going to be involved in the decision making? Will all of those who are

going to be affected be involved in the decision making?

Most important, Mr. Speaker, will the workers who are most going to be

affected by whatever the changes are, will they be involved? Will this

government tell us how they are going to benefit specifically?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the hon. the Member for the District of The Straits

White Bay North have leave?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: By leave.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of The Straits White

Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to thank the minister as well for an advance copy of his

statement.

The removal of the tariffs is certainly extremely positive

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MITCHELMORE: and I would encourage public consultations with

harvesters, processors, and community stakeholders. I also see opportunity for

small-scale fisheries to benefit, and will be sharing my views.

If we innovate, we can move forward with long-term sustainable fishery jobs,

which can offset and replace those that will be lost that are lower paid and

short term. So I look forward to hearing more on this.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to inform hon. members of the provincial government's ongoing

efforts to improve and strengthen the transportation network throughout

Newfoundland and Labrador.

Our Provincial Roads Improvement Program, with a budget of $59 million this

year, has delivered on a long list of upgrades this past construction season,

ranging from guide rail and culvert replacements to rehabilitation and

resurfacing of dozens of kilometres of asphalt on our highways.

Mr. Speaker, significant progress has been made this year on all three phases

of the Trans-Labrador Highway and construction continues on the Team Gushue

Highway with major underpass work now taking place. The Conception Bay South

Bypass project is nearing completion with a $4.4 million tender award for paving

and a $2.9 million contract for the construction of Scott's Road underpass. The

four-lane divided highway from the Massey Drive Interchange to the Corner Brook

Industrial Access Road is also close to completion with $6.5 million in contract

work invested this year.

Bridge replacements and repairs are also playing an important role in our

overall infrastructure improvements this year. We have invested more than $1.8

million in rehabilitation projects, including Sandy River Bridge, Horwood River

Bridge, Parsons Pond Bridge, North Harbour River Bridge, Little Salmonier River

Bridge and the Curtis Causeway Bridge. We have invested over $5.3 million in

bridge replacement projects including Main Point Bridge, Gull Island Bridge,

lift bridge in Placentia is well underway and construction has begun on the

approaches for the replacement of the Sir Robert Bond Bridge.

Emergency repairs played a crucial role in transportation upgrades this year.

Over $1.8 million in repairs were necessary on the Trans-Canada Highway near

Pasadena following damage after record water levels were experienced on the West

Coast. A berm was constructed at Exit 12 to reinstate the ramp and the

Trans-Canada Highway and further repairs to the Trans-Canada Highway and the

ramp at Exit 13 are now nearing completion. A rain storm on the Burin Peninsula

also caused damage requiring quick action. More than $675,000 was invested to

undertake emergency repairs in Lawn, Lord's Cove and near Cow Head Lookout.

Mr. Speaker, since 2004, we have invested more than $1.4 billion to upgrade

our roads and highways to enhance the transportation system here in our Province

and improve the safety for residents, tourists and businesses in Newfoundland

and Labrador.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for a copy of the Ministerial Statement.

Mr. Speaker, I urge government to ensure that when we do replacements of

infrastructure and upgrades on infrastructure that we look at climate change, we

look at the future, we look at stronger storm surges, and we look at extreme

weather conditions and flooding. Some of the work that has been carried out was

because the infrastructure was not able to handle these extreme weather

conditions. We need to start focusing on that when we put infrastructure in

place in the first place.

We are still having protests in areas like Conche, La Scie, and Harbour

Breton because of poor road conditions. Some of the secondary roads, Mr.

Speaker, are still not addressed.

We have a ferry replacement strategy that I will remind government is long

overdue. We need the ferry replacement strategy looked after, Mr. Speaker,

because this is something that people in coastal communities require. I ask

government to look at the ferry replacement strategy and deliver on their

promise.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would also like to thank the minister for the advance copy of his

statement. I would also like to reiterate, too, that some of these repairs that

he is talking about were due to extreme weather events. Yes, the government's

transportation plan if it has one and it should have one, it should have one

in the very near future should be readily adaptable to that, to climate

change.

At the same time, in order to have a transportation plan in place, government

would be able to save money in the long run by doing that, by having that

transportation plan in place so that we know what roads and everything are going

to be worked at in the future.

Government are projecting to collect close to $180 million in gasoline taxes

this year. To see that there was only $59 million put into roads, I think that

some more questions have to be asked about the distribution of the monies when

it comes to roads and indeed for our ferry transportation.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the Member for St. John's North have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: Leave.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Thanks to the minister for an advance copy of his statement.

Team Gushue Highway goes right through St. John's North. While it has been a

headache for some, we are certainly looking forward to its completion. It will

ease the morning commute, the evening commute, and also help relieve some

traffic pressure on neighbourhood roads.

Some suggestions for the hon. minister going forward; I think it is important

to get tenders out as early as possible so that companies can know and plan for

the work that has to be done. It is also important to partner more with

municipalities. We can package up municipal road building and infrastructure

projects with projects that are provincial to get a lower cost and a break.

We are always concerned about safety on our highways. We would like to see

more twinning and more of those rumble strips to make sure everybody is paying

attention and wide awake.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Oral Questions.

Oral Questions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, yesterday we asked the Premier about the cost of

internal and external renovations for the Confederation Building. The minister

replied and said it was around $50 million.

Government's own documents show that this is not true. The cost just for the

external renovations is expected to be $51.1 million, 150 per cent over the

original budget.

I ask the Premier: Now tell us, what is the total budgeted for the internal

renovations?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is almost embarrassing to stand here and have to answer a question in the

fourth day sitting in the Legislature and the Opposition has nothing better to

talk about, nothing more pressing with issues than to talk about the renovations

that are happening on the building.

If you check Hansard yesterday I said the renovations for the exterior of the

building, with the windows, was about $50 million. I think $51 million is about

$50 million. So, that is very close to where it is at, and a price has not been

put on the interior yet.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: I am not sure about the minister, but when it comes to $50

million of the taxpayers' money, Mr. Speaker, it is important to the Opposition,

and it is important to the people especially the ones struggling from day to

day to try to make a living.

Government's ATIPP documents show that the internal work on the eighth,

ninth, and tenth floors of the Confederation Building alone is expected to be

$6.52 million just for phase I, Mr. Speaker. The internal renovations are

expected to take four to six years.

I ask the Premier again: What is the total cost of the renovations for the

Confederation Building, and what assurances can you give the taxpayers that you

will not exceed the budgetary amount?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would like to correct the member from across the

House. It is not renovations that are being done to the eighth, ninth, and tenth

floors; it is repairs that are being done mechanical and electrical repairs

that are being done those floors.

It is very difficult to put a solid price tag on it until you get in and you

find out how much repairs need to be done there. So until we get that work done,

we really cannot put a final price tag on that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, this government has been promising a fiscal

framework with municipalities since 2008. This weekend is the MNL convention. It

will soon be 2014 and they are still waiting for government to fulfill the

promise.

I ask the Premier: What is the status of the fiscal framework negotiations,

and why have you failed to live up to your commitments?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Municipal and Intergovernmental

Affairs.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Very much looking forward to the next few days at the Municipalities

Newfoundland and Labrador Convention. Engaging in a new provincial-municipal

fiscal framework with our municipalities in this Province remains a very high

priority for the Department of Municipal and Intergovernmental Affairs.

In fact, in my first few weeks on the job I have already had two meetings

with the President of MNL to talk about that very issue. I look forward to

providing an update to the participants in the convention this weekend, and we

are on track to deliver on the new fiscal framework over the next couple of

years.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: I take the minister at his word, but the commitment was made

in 2008 and that is why we need to keep the government's feet to the fire.

Mr. Speaker, municipalities are facing new responsibilities and extra costs

on a daily basis. New sources of revenue are critical for the sustainability of

our cities and towns.

I ask the Premier: Budget 2014 is fast approaching; will the fiscal framework

be addressed in this Budget?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Municipal and Intergovernmental

Affairs.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENT: Mr. Speaker, we are well aware of the needs and concerns of

municipalities large and small in Newfoundland and Labrador. It is why we are

reviewing and working on a new fiscal framework. It is why we have arrived at a

new MOG formula, and I am pleased to say that for many communities in

Newfoundland and Labrador they will receive an increase in Municipal Operating

Grants in 2014.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENT: In addition to that, we have extensive consultation planned

over the next year with municipalities, with local service districts, with

people who live in unincorporated areas, with anybody in the Province who

receives municipal services. We want and need their input to ensure that we get

this right because it is important to all municipalities in Newfoundland and

Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, it is great talk but there is no commitment that

it will be done in 2014, as was committed in last year's Budget.

Mr. Speaker, in May 2012 government passed a new Animal Protection Act and

announced $50,000 for the SPCA to develop a public awareness campaign. We know

now government has reneged on this commitment, and I voted for this act with the

commitment of this funding.

I ask the minister: Will you commit today to work with the SPCA and provide

the $50,000 you promised?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, what the member refers to is obviously our

government's commitment and concern for the animal welfare in this Province and

our commitment and concern to work with those people who are committed, Mr.

Speaker, to work with communities and work with families who have pets, who have

animals that need the proper care.

Mr. Speaker, yes, I am more than willing to continue to work with the SPCA on

behalf of government and to do all we can to show our support for animal welfare

in this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: Will you reinstate the

$50,000 your government committed for education on the new act which you

introduced?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, I think it would be fair to say that our

government has shown our commitment. We have a new act. We have committed new

money. We have budgeted more money to the SPCA, Mr. Speaker, and we are trying

to work through a process with the SPCA to be able to help with issues in

communities.

Collectively, Mr. Speaker, we will work together to try to address those

issues. Certainly our funding that is needed to help support those issues, when

we get it right, Mr. Speaker, we are certainly going to be there to support the

SPCA.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, just on that note: Will the minister please

commit, because it is all of our responsibility to ensure animal protection in

this Province. It is a serious issue. I voted personally for this bill because

it is a great bill. We need the education.

I ask the minister: Will we do it collectively and do our duty right and

commit the $50,000 for a public awareness campaign to show who can enforce these

regulations and what the regulations are across the Province? Would the minister

please make that commitment for the sake of the animals in this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, I appreciate it when the Leader of the

Opposition acknowledges the good work of government, and acknowledges the work

that we have been doing on behalf of animal welfare in this Province. Obviously,

when we are talking money, those are budgetary decisions that will work through

a process.

Beyond that, Mr. Speaker, I think we are clear, and I think the people of the

SPCA are clear that we will continue to work with them. There are some issues,

in terms of enforcement issues and so on. We are aware of those, but we will

continue to work with the SPCA in the spirit of the act that we brought in, Mr.

Speaker, and in the spirit of commitment that this government has made to animal

welfare in the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I assume the $50,000 will be used, if necessary. I thank the minister for

that.

Mr. Speaker, in 2011, the Member for Humber East and Humber West said that

the construction of the new hospital would begin in 2012. This past August, the

Minister of Health said it would start in 2015. Just two weeks later, the

Minister of Transportation and Works said he did not know when the construction

would start and would not give a timeline on the construction.

I ask the Premier: Will one of you make a commitment to the people of Corner

Brook and Western Newfoundland, which they deserve, when can they expect a true

date of the construction of the hospital to begin?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, there is a commitment I can make to the people of Western

Newfoundland, and that is we are committed to building this hospital and that is

why we have invested or said we will invest $500 million to it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, the work that we committed to starting is

actually underway right now. There is a very interesting process that the member

opposite might want to know about, in the way that we are now working with the

consultant to map out and to actually, through lean processing, work out what

every single room in that facility is going to look like, how it can have the

best patient flow, and how it can work best for the people of Western

Newfoundland.

This is a state-of-the-art facility and we are really proud of the work that

we are doing there. We are moving forward as committed.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday, the Minister of Justice asked for examples in delays of justice in

Labrador. One docket case alone, Mr. Speaker, includes three assault charges,

one resisting arrest, seven failures to comply to a probation officer, twelve

breaches of undertaking, all while waiting for the initial charge of assault to

be put on the table.

I ask the minister: Given that the docket is full of similar cases, do you

believe that this is truly protection of victims' rights?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As I said to the member opposite yesterday, our primary focus is on

protecting victims. We are not about defending criminals, as was suggested by

the member yesterday.

As he would also recall, I talked yesterday at great length about the

significant investments we have made in the justice system in Labrador. I will

also remind the member that I sent him an e-mail twice asking him if he would

forward me some confidential information rather than raise it in this House. I

would gladly go and have a look at specific circumstances to see if it in fact

was an issue that the government could deal with, or were we talking about a

judiciary issue which is completely independent of government.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, I can gladly forward the docket. There are all

kinds of examples on there.

Mr. Speaker, by the time the offender makes it to court, breaches of

undertaking are often thrown out and the offender is once again put on

probation, all in the interest of the court's time. Clearly, Mr. Speaker, there

are a lack of resources.

I ask the minister: Given the existing backlog of the court's docket, will

you now provide the required resources to deal with the terrible delay of

justice?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, investment in the justice system and I am not

going to repeat everything I said yesterday and over the last number of days and

weeks. Clearly, if investments are required we are prepared to look at it.

It is shameful for any member of this House to stand up and question the

independence of a judge in this Province and expect that the Minister of Justice

is going to tell judges what to do. I am sorry, I do not have that authority nor

do I want that authority.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, following the public backlash from extensive

cuts to the justice system in the last Budget, the minister announced a review

of the Sheriff's Office. The minister said this review would be important in

helping to determine the optimal resourcing levels and structure of the office.

I ask the minister: What is the status of this important review?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The member is correct. We in fact did carry out an extensive review of not

only the Sheriff's Office, but of Legal Aid and many other parts of the Justice

Department. We did that upon the advice of a number of independent individuals,

and it was good advice. I believe you are going to see continued improvements in

the Justice system.

We made significant gains over the last eight to ten years, investments in

policing, investments in court services, investments in victim services,

investments in justice in Labrador. I expect that the report the member refers

to will be available to me in the very near future. Once I have had time to read

the report and assess the implications, including the financial implications to

government, the report will be made available to the member with a briefing, if

so desired.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, this review was to be completed and

submitted to government by September 13. Obviously, it has been delayed almost

two months now.

I ask the minister: Why was the report delayed, and when will it be

finalized?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: As I was saying, Mr. Speaker, from our perspective, it is not

about the timeline as much as making sure you have a quality report, and the

individual doing the work has travelled across the Province. As I understand it,

they have met with individuals in the system, in the Sheriff's Office system,

and talked to other people who are connected to the legal system, connected to

the judiciary. They have talked to people who use the system to seek advice and

input. They have visited facilities to look at whether there are structural

changes required.

I am anticipating a very comprehensive report, but unfortunately, Mr.

Speaker, since I am not the author of the report I cannot say why the report is

delayed. I can only say that I have been given good advice to expect a report in

the very near future.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, last spring I asked the minister about

implementing full-day kindergarten and he responded that his department was

investigating and looking at the numbers.

I ask the minister: What is the update on when we can expect implementation

of full-day kindergarten in our Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, we continue to look at the full-day

kindergarten. We have never ruled it out. Mr. Speaker, we have decided our

investments are where research would tell us to invest, in those earliest years.

It is why we are now on the third year of a $4.3 million investment in our zero

to three years, Mr. Speaker, and we look forward to that continued investment.

We do our decisions based on research, Mr. Speaker, and that is where exactly

we have invested our funding.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, the full-day kindergarten would come after the

baby blankets, not before.

Our Province lags behind in early childhood education and our children are

paying the price. The minister claims space is one of the challenges of adding

full-day kindergarten.

I ask the minister: With all the savings he claims from school board

amalgamation, could he not redirect some of the school board savings to help our

small children?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, let no one in this Province question our

investment in education. Let no one question it.

Mr. Speaker, we still have the best student-teacher ratio of all provinces in

Canada.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Since 2003, we have increased the per pupil investment by 70

per cent. Never question our commitment to education and if he has a further

question, I will continue my list.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has recently upped its

predication on how much sea levels are rising. Government's current policy only

allows a fifty-metre buffer from the coast. While this may be appropriate for

development in some areas, it is clearly inadequate in others.

I ask the minister: We have seen communities affected by coastal erosion such

as Daniel's Harbour; are you prepared to revisit the department's policy on

coastline development to better reflect the recent findings of the

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As the Minister of Environment, I am confident with the legislation that we

have in place regarding our coastlines. Mr. Speaker, further to that, this

Province has always taken climate change very seriously. We have the office

established. We certainly make sure that we are aware of the research. We want

to make sure that our policies and the way we do business in this Province and

the way we look at industry and we look at greenhouse gas emissions makes us a

leader within Canada, Mr. Speaker.

We have targets set for this Province. We continue to monitor our targets and

we want to make sure that as we move towards 2020 that this Province becomes the

leader within Canada for greenhouse gas emissions and to deal with the issues of

climate change.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: My question was about coastline development, not emissions.

We know that the Island of Newfoundland has been assessed for potential

coastal erosion; government has had that report for two-and-a-half years. Its

findings are startling, Mr. Speaker, concluding that over 250 communities are at

high sensitivity, twenty-five of those at extreme sensitivity, for coastal

erosion.

I ask the minister: When will you act on this report? Do you have any plans

for a similar study for the Coast of Labrador?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, climate change is not something that is unique to

Newfoundland and Labrador; it is something that all parts of the world are

dealing with.

Mr. Speaker, this is an issue that this Province identified since we took

government in 2003. We have set up our Climate Change office. We have experts in

that office who inform the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador. Our

investments speak for themselves. We have not closed the door on any

environmental issues in relation to climate change.

Actually, Mr. Speaker, we want to make sure that we continue to look at what

causes climate change in Newfoundland and Labrador, whether that is greenhouse

gas emissions, coastal erosion, or any other effects that we have to deal with.

It could be the weather changes. We want to make sure we are aware of these

issues and we have the proper investments to make sure we look after the health

and safety of the people of this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Mr. Speaker, government has had the report for

two-and-a-half years. They should be aware that over 250 communities are at high

sensitivity and twenty-five communities at extreme sensitivity.

Are you going to change the coastline development policy of fifty meters or

not, for the communities that are at extreme sensitivity?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, as I said, I am quite confident in the legislation

that we have in Newfoundland and Labrador. In addition to that, we have

information. We are more than willing to work with our communities to ensure

safety in these communities. I hope the member is not suggesting that we

resettle 250 communities in Newfoundland and Labrador.

The more information we have allows us more ways to consult, to deal with,

and to look at options to deal with issues. When a report outlines issues, it

does not mean we have to change everything, but it certainly means, Mr. Speaker,

we are aware of issues. We have to implement the necessary solutions when we are

dealing with particular problems.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, 696 safety directives have been issued to two

mining companies in Labrador West in the last year. Eleven of the twenty-six

workplace fatalities in the last year were in the mining sector, yet there have

not been any full-time occupational health and safety officers in Labrador West

for the past three years.

I ask the minister: Why has your government failed to fill these important

OHS positions in Labrador West?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Service NL.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, any discussion about safety is an opportunity. We currently have

two positions for inspectors in Labrador West, which have been vacant for about

three years. We have gone through several unsuccessful attempts to fill these

vacancies. The labour market conditions in Labrador are causing issues with

public and private sector organizations, and we are doing the best we can in

terms of fulfilling these vacancies. We are very confident in our protocols and

our inspection protocols with regard to inspecting the priority areas in

Labrador and the rest of the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair, for a

quick question.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, depriving people of standard services is unfair

and unjust. Many communities in our Province are doing without broadband or they

have substandard dial-up service.

I ask the minister: What is your plan to ensure our residents and business

leaders are treated fairly by providing them access now to high-speed Internet

service?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Business and Rural

Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS JOHNSON: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I appreciate the member's question because it gives me an opportunity to talk

about all the wonderful investments we have made in broadband in Newfoundland

and Labrador. Since coming into power in 2003, Mr. Speaker, we have spent $29

million which has leveraged $115 million.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS JOHNSON: Mr. Speaker, in 2003 we had 114 communities with broadband;

we are now over 500 communities, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS JOHNSON: Just recently this year in the Budget we announced another

$6.2 million for further investment, and that RFP will be coming soon.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday, the Minister of Health and Community Services said her department

is looking at increasing the hours of physicians and other health professionals

in ER departments during peak times.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: When will these additional physicians and

nursing professionals be in place to cope with emergency room congestion?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I indicated yesterday, we are exceptionally concerned about

wait times in all areas of health care, and that is why we have invested so much

money into ensuring that we improve our wait times right throughout the system.

In fact, we have seen some phenomenal improvements in our wait times, which

is a testament to how well we are doing the work. We have A plus ratings, where

once we had C ratings, Mr. Speaker. We have been acknowledged by CIHI. We have

been acknowledged by the Wait Time Alliance and so on for doing exceptional work

here. The people in our Clinical Efficiency Division, Mr. Speaker, really need

to be commended for the extraordinary work they have done in improving wait

times.

We have invested money now in our emergency departments, and I have every

confidence that we will see the same kind of good results there as a result of

those investments.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Too bad I did not ask a question about wait times.

We continue to hear about understaffing problems in our emergency rooms. One

senior I am aware of, and there are more than this one, was put in a room by

herself for several hours with no attention from staff, no water, no food, no

blankets.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: Does she realize the urgency of the need for

more ER staff in our hospitals?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, our mandate as a government in terms of health care is to

provide quality care. Mr. Speaker, we are delivering on that. We have seen that

through the accreditation process at Eastern Health which was 94.2 per cent, at

Central Health which was in excess of that, at about 95 per cent, and at

Labrador-Grenfell as well. The accreditation is currently underway now at

Western Health.

We are seeing that quality care is being provided in all of our health care

authorities, Mr. Speaker. That is our mandate. That is what we are going to

continue to do, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

The minister forgets what was said about ER in that accreditation report.

Since Budget 2012, government has promised to set up Rapid Response Teams at

hospitals to help seniors avoid long stays in the ER and return home with

short-term supports.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: When will these Rapid Response Teams be up

and running?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, she is quite right, we are actually leading the way here. This

is a very innovative process of putting in place rapid response. We committed to

doing two, but in actual fact we have decided now because of the success of the

two that we have started with that we are going to have four Rapid Response

Teams right throughout the Province. We are seeing incredible results with them.

The ones that she is asking about are in place, Mr. Speaker, and we are

continuing on through the Province. As I said, when we can look at CTAS or doing

the triage system and identify the patients who can be seen faster and take them

out of the emergency wait rooms and into other areas of the hospital, we really

do make huge improvements in the overall wait times in those emergency rooms.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Much of the emergency room congestion across the Province is due to people

not having access to a family doctor.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: Will the department look at establishing

primary health care clinics, a proven solution to ER congestion?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I am really happy to stand here today and talk about the

improvements that have happened in terms of being able to have access to family

physicians in Newfoundland and Labrador, and to specialists in Newfoundland and

Labrador. Mr. Speaker, right now we have more doctors practicing in this

Province than we have ever had in our history.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: We have 1,155 doctors, Mr. Speaker, more than we have ever

had in our history. We were also early adapters of nurse practitioners in this

Province, to the point now where we are 123 per cent better than anywhere else

in Canada in terms of the per population ratio on nurse practitioners. We are

seeing huge improvements there.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I think the minister needs to go down to Burin and look at the doctor

situation there because there is a chronic shortage already.

Mr. Speaker, the recent release of the Province's ambulance review speaks to

several changes and severe changes that are needed in order to have more

effective patient transfer and care. Paramedics were consulted on the matters

involved, as well as other public. Now government has started a new round of

consultations. We would like to know why?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I will respond to his

preamble first. I was in Burin two weeks

ago he was asking me if I should go down and had many conversations around

the doctors. We are working on recruitment. We have seen some improvements in

the recruitment in doctors down there, Mr. Speaker, and we are continuing to

work on that. Things are moving.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Now, Mr. Speaker, as to part two; in terms of the ambulance

review, we are very happy with the recommendations that have come forward

through that ambulance review. Our goal is to see a more patient centric

ambulance review.

We have the recommendations. Now that we have them we are going back to the

various stakeholders of the ambulance operations in this Province, that being

the ambulance operators, the ambulance health professionals, and those who use

them, Mr. Speaker, to see where they sit with those recommendations.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for St. John's East, time for a quick question without

preamble.

MR. MURPHY: Mr. Speaker, the new consultations spell yet a further delay

implementing a fix. Paramedics are getting tired of the delay, they want relief.

When are they going to get it?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I have no idea where the member opposite is getting that

information. I have been speaking with ambulance operators; I have been speaking

with the professionals. Mr. Speaker, they are very happy that we are consulting

them at this point in time. There will be no delay. We have committed to having

that done by early December and then moving on, as was suggested within the

recommendations that came to us.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The time for Question Period has expired.

Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.

Tabling of Documents.

Tabling of Documents

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

In accordance with

section 19.(5)(

a) of the House of Assembly Accountability,

Integrity and Administration Act, I hereby table the minutes of the House of

Assembly Management Commission meetings held on April 23, May 15, and July 16,

Further tabling of reports?

Notices of Motion.

Notices of Motion

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that I will ask leave to introduce a bill

entitled,

An Act to Amend the Law Society Act, 1999. (Bill 23)

MR. SPEAKER: Further notices of motion?

The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that the Minister of Finance and President of

Treasury Board will move that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the

Whole to consider a resolution relating to the advancing or guaranteeing of

certain loans made under the Loan and Guarantee Act, 1957. (Bill 24)

MR. SPEAKER: Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.

Petitions.

Petitions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS violent workplace incidents involving convenience store clerks and

gas station attendants are a serious health and safety issue; and

WHEREAS many public and private sector employees are being left in vulnerable

situations, especially in the opening and closing of their buildings and

establishments; and

WHEREAS all workers deserve protection from danger and harm; and

WHEREAS current government regulations are inadequate in providing even basic

protection for those vulnerable workers; and

WHEREAS it is the responsibility of employers to keep workers safe, and the

responsibility of government to ensure employers adhere to regulations;

We, the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge government to

immediately enact legislation and regulations to protect workers in hazardous

workplaces, including late shifts in convenience stores and gas stations. This

legislation must direct employers to have a minimum of two workers on site after

10:00 p.m. and before 6:00 a.m., or have a secure barrier between the worker and

customer in place before these hours.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

I say, Mr. Speaker, it is certainly troubling and concerning, if not

disturbing, that we have seen such an increase in the number of violent

incidents in workplaces in our city and other parts of the Province over the

past few years. Oftentimes this involves people working for minimum wage in the

service industry. A lot of those workers are younger workers. These are people

who are perhaps trying to earn a few bucks to go to university or college, or

people who have no other alternative. This is the only work they can find. So it

is increasingly dangerous for those workers because of these sorts of dangerous

incidents.

Certainly, lots of people have opined and hypothesized about why it is that

this is happening, some combination of our economic situation and social

conditions in the Province. I do not have an expert opinion on that, because I

am certainly not an expert in this area, but I think we need to try and do more

to protect those workers and ensure that their workplaces are safe. I think the

ideas in this petition are a good place to start.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS Labrador-Grenfell Health employs a nurse practitioner at St. Anthony,

able to take appointments and operate a full scope of practice for which nurse

practitioners are licensed to operate; and

WHEREAS Western Health at Port Saunders and Norris Point on the Great

Northern Peninsula has similar nurse practitioner practices; and

WHEREAS nurse practitioners have advanced education and training beyond the

registered nurse level and provide comprehensive care ranging from health

promotion and prevention to diagnostics and treatment, including ordering

diagnostic tests, prescribing pharmaceuticals, and performing procedures within

a legislated scope of practice, and

WHEREAS nurse practitioners are alleviating physician shortages in rural

areas across Canada and Newfoundland and Labrador by operating clinical

practices in collaboration with physicians and other health practitioners,

leading to better access to services and shorter wait times; and

WHEREAS residents from Eddies Cove East to Reefs Harbour deserve to have

regular nurse practitioner clinics that are available to other residents on the

Great Northern Peninsula;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to ensure that a nurse practitioner

clinical practice be established at The Strait of Belle Isle Health Centre to be

fully integrated with the clinical practices of physicians.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this petition is signed by residents of Blue Cove, St. Barbe,

Foresters Point, Reefs Harbour, Flower's Cove, Savage Cove, Pines Cove, and

Green Island Brook. It is highly important that when you have health care

professionals on staff, when you are able to recruit nurse practitioners, that

they be fully utilized and able to practice the full scope. It gives a better

value for our healthcare dollar, and certainly makes sure that healthcare

operates in a way that meets the needs of people.

So the residents of my area are certainly asking for nurse practitioner

clinics to be fully integrated at the Strait of Belle Isle Health Centre.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, to the hon. House of Assembly for the Province

of Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS home care allows the elderly and people with disabilities to remain

within the comfort and security of their own homes, home care also allows people

to be discharged from hospital earlier; and

WHEREAS many families find it very difficult to recruit and retain home care

workers for their loved ones; and

WHEREAS the PC Blue Book 2011 as well as the 2012 Speech from the Throne

committed that government would develop a new model of home care and give people

the option of receiving that care from family members; and

WHEREAS government has given no time commitment for when government plans to

implement paying family caregivers;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to

implement a new home care model to cover family caregivers.

As in duty bound your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, one example of one family who is really pressing this matter is

a family in Port Saunders. One of the family members has been regularly sending

e-mails and letters to the minister and to the Premier pleading. The situation

is that there is an elderly relative and she suffers from dementia. Because of

this, she does not really take to strangers very easily.

She is not easy for a home care worker to manage. People suffering dementia

have all sorts of issues. Certainly caregivers may have a difficult time dealing

with people who are stricken with dementia.

The issue is that there is a qualified family home care provider who could be

hired if the program were to be extended. The alternative is that strangers

provide the care. In the ordinary course that might not be much of a problem,

however, in the case of strangers because of her dementia it is very difficult

for her to adjust to a new person. Any turnover within every few months or so,

she is dealing with a stranger in her home and she is absolutely terrorized.

This is really cruel and inhumane that somebody would have to have that sort of

a fate in their advancing years, past eighty years of age.

This is the type of a patient and a person who could benefit from the

government making good on its promise in 2011 to fund this type of home care and

they are not doing it. It was recommitted in 2012, budgeted in 2013, and it

still is not being provided. Mr. Speaker, if the funds have been allocated, the

commitment has been made, the promise made, why is it, these people want to

know, that it still is not forthcoming?

I get calls on a regular basis. The last time around when funds were approved

in the Budget, my explanation was it looks like it is enough for three quarters

of the year. Maybe three months in the government is going to start with the

program and take it into next year. It has not happened and these people are

really pleading for relief in this situation.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a petition.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS hundreds of residents of the South Coast of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador, including residents of the communities of Burgeo,

Ramea, Grey River, and Franois, use Route 480 on a regular basis for work,

medical, educational, and social reasons; and

WHEREAS there is no cellphone coverage on Route 480; and

WHEREAS residents and users of Route 480 require cellphone coverage to ensure

their safety and communication abilities; and

WHEREAS the Department of IBRD recently announced funding to improve

broadband services in rural Newfoundland and Labrador; and

WHEREAS the residents and users of Route 480 feel that the Department of

Innovation, Business and Rural Development should also invest in cellphone

coverage for rural Newfoundland and Labrador;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to support

the users of Route 480 in their request to obtain cellphone coverage along Route

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, it is another opportunity for me to stand up and put in a

cellphone petition. Again, it is a huge issue in this Province. At this point it

is not really a want, it is a need. It is a necessity all over this Province. We

have very rugged terrain with a very large and different demographic everywhere.

It is an issue that affects us all. There are certainly plenty of members

across the way who have areas that just do not have cellphone coverage. My

district has two routes particularly, Route 470 and Route 480, that do not have

coverage. It is getting to the point now where it is a safety deterrent. It is a

tourism deterrent. It is an economic deterrent. It is just not acceptable in

this day and age.

I can understand government does not have the ability to do everything that

they need to do. However, government has no excuse not to at least have a

strategy put together to say how we are going to address this. I do not even

know if they can identify the areas that are not covered. I have asked for that,

and I have yet to receive it from the former minister.

I look forward to working with the new minister to discuss this issue. Again,

we cannot be reactive here; we need to be proactive. It is being done elsewhere.

We need to get this done. I will continue entering those petitions until such

time.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a petition and I will read the petition.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS the Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Act was introduced in the

House of Assembly of Newfoundland and Labrador, debated, approved by Members of

the House of Assembly, and received Royal Assent in June of 2007; and

WHEREAS this legislation has not be proclaimed into force; and

WHEREAS this legislation was intended to make our communities safer, and we

believe if the government proclaimed this legislation into law our communities

would indeed be safer;

WHEREUPON we, the undersigned petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to

proclaim into law the Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Act.

Mr. Speaker, the legislation that was voted on in this House of Assembly, I

do believe, would make our communities safer. I know that the minister has

recently announced a joint police taskforce, and I commend him for doing that. I

think it is actually a very good move. It is something that will, in fact,

provide results; but the reason for this legislation, Mr. Speaker, was because

law enforcement can only go so far unless they have enough evidence to get a

search warrant, make arrests, and take a case to trial.

This legislation, Mr. Speaker, would give the Department of Justice and peace

officers within the Department of Justice a little more ability to deal with

some issues; for example, on Tessier Place in my district where police had been

aware of a property on Tessier Place dealing in drugs and prostitution and other

very serious issues but, for two years, the police were unable to get enough

evidence to shut that property down or to make arrests. The Department of

Justice would have been able to do so. I firmly believe it would have made a

huge difference in that neighbourhood.

Mr. Speaker, I hope that government will reconsider the safer communities and

neighbourhoods legislation and proclaim it and put it into force and allow

communities to make the complaints to the department and for the department to

be able to investigate those complaints and make the community safer.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS government has a responsibility to ensure that Internet access is

broadly available so people have a right to be able to access the Internet in

order to exercise and enjoy their rights to freedom of expression and opinion

and other fundamental human rights; and

WHEREAS St. Carol's still remains without broadband services; and

WHEREAS residents rely on Internet services for education, business,

communication and social activity; and

WHEREAS wireless and wired technologies exist to provide broadband service to

rural communities to replace slower dial-up service;

We, the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge government to

assist providers to ensure St. Carol's is in receipt of broadband Internet

services in Newfoundland and Labrador.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I guess in Question Period today, it is to be acknowledged that

government has invested $29 million and levered over $100 million in funds to

create that infrastructure, that backbone into a number of communities.

What we need to do now is where we have about 200 communities still without

broadband is make sure that we do that mapping model. We know that there are

communities that are close together, that there are other solutions, whether it

be using wireless, or wireline, or other technologies to provide broadband and

expanding that service. It is so essential for our rural communities that we

have broadband so that we can grow the economy, that we can have more

educational opportunities, and that we can build vibrant rural economies in

Newfoundland and Labrador.

I am certainly looking forward to working with the minister and urging all

government members, let's press this issue, let's get behind broadband because

having an advanced economy is certainly important.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province

of Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS minimum wage is a provincial responsibility; and

WHEREAS minimum wage is intended to be a living wage, but experience from

minimum waged employees have proven different; and

WHEREAS because of this, these workers find it hard to support their

families, local businesses and the provincial economy;

WHEREUPON your petitioners call upon all Members of the House of Assembly to

urge government to increase the minimum wage and tie it to the Consumer Price

Index so individuals can afford to financially support themselves, their

families, local businesses, and the economy.

As is duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, earlier this week, on Sunday, I attended a youth leadership

function called RADHOC at Memorial University. The young people who participated

and this is the second petition; they provided two petitions to federal

representatives and two petitions to provincial representatives. I appreciate

that the government has addressed minimum wage over the past several years and I

appreciate that government has more recently addressed minimum wage and said

that the minimum wage will increase and there are set intervals.

The young people who have asked me to present this petition actually they

asked the Member for Mount Pearl South to present the petition and he thought it

would be more appropriate that I should present the petition, so he asked me to

do so.

The young people make a good point when they say: tie it to the Consumer

Price Index. Because by tying the minimum wage to the Consumer Price Index, that

would create certainty, certainly less administration, if it were tied to the

CPI every six months or whatever would be a reasonable time span, as government

pensions are and other government benefits are. It would be, in effect,

self-indexing so we would not have to come back as frequently and deal with

minimum wages.

Dealing with minimum wages every so often creates a conflict between

employers and employees and it certainly would be unnecessary if the government

would adopt the approach taken by these young people. That is the purpose of

this petition, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, very much.

MR. SPEAKER: Orders of the Day.

Orders of the Day

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I call from the Order Paper, Order 13, and I would like to move:

WHEREAS, in accordance with

section 45 of the House of Assembly Act and

section 39 of the House of Assembly Accountability, Integrity and Administration

Act, the Commissioner for Legislative Standards has recommended to this

Honourable House:

1) that MHA Brazil be reprimanded by the House of Assembly for failing to

file an accurate disclosure statement; and

2) that MHA Brazil be reprimanded by the House of Assembly for violating the

Members' Code of Conduct.

THEREFORE

BE IT RESOLVED that this House of Assembly concurs with the

findings and recommendations of the Commissioner for Legislative Standards and

asks that the Member for Conception Bay East Bell Island stand in his place in

this House and apologize to this Assembly for his failure and violation as cited

by the report of the Commissioner for Legislative Standards.

MR. SPEAKER: Is there a seconder for the motion, the hon. Government

House Leader?

MR. KING: The Member for Gander.

MR. SPEAKER: Thank you.

The hon. the Government House Leader, to the motion?

MR. KING: Yes, to the motion, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I have a few comments that I want to make, and I am not going to

be long, but just to recollect for a few moments. Upon learning that there might

be a possible problem or issue with respect to what we are talking about today,

I want to be very clear that our government and the Premier acted very quickly

to make sure that we demonstrated openness, transparency, and accountability in

trying to determine if in fact there was an issue. We took it very seriously.

There were a number of reports that were conducted. I think it is very clear

that the member realizes a mistake was made and has certainly been very openly

apologetic to members of his constituency and this House.

Mr. Speaker, I want to reiterate from government's perspective that we all

recognize there are expectations of us as Members of the House of Assembly, both

inside and out. Certainly, I am sure, on many days people question whether we

live up to their expectations in the House, particularly in Question Period when

we do have a little bit of sport and a bit of fun. The reality is people do hold

us to high standards. When it comes to the behaviours that we exhibit outside of

the House of Assembly in carrying out our daily duties, we recognize there is a

high standard and people have high expectations. We are responsible for living

up to those expectations.

What has happened here, Mr. Speaker, I submit, hopefully never will happen

but could conceivably happen to any one of us at any point in time. We have

standards that apply to us. We have a Code of Conduct, and I am sure all of us,

perhaps even right now, are wondering if there is something that unintentionally

or otherwise we have done or are doing that could put us in a conflicting

situation.

Many of us, as you would know, Mr. Speaker, are involved in our communities

outside of politics. We are involved because we live in the communities and we

want to stay connected with people and to reach out to the residents. We are

involved, frankly because, for many of us, it was involvement in the communities

such as the Member for Conception Bay East Bell Island that launched most

of our political careers. It got us engaged in working with the public and in

advocating on public issues, and garnered an interest in us to take that a step

forward.

We all recognize the issue we are talking about. We all recognize the

standards that we live by. We all recognize I think that there is close scrutiny

on our actions and on what we do. It is fair to say I am sure all members

would agree that whether a mistake was made, whether it was intentional or

whether it was innocent and unintentional, we have to take responsibility for

our actions. The motion that I have brought forward today on behalf of

government simply reflects that intent, that the member take responsibility for

the actions.

My wish, Mr. Speaker, coming out of this motion today, assuming that the

House will support the motion, would be three things; first of all that the

member will in fact stand in his place, do as the motion asks and apologize and

accept responsibility for the actions. I have every confidence that the member

did no ill harm here, did not intend to do anything wrong, and will apologize

and has learned from it.

My second hope, Mr. Speaker, is that all of us, besides the MHA for

Conception Bay East Bell Island, will also learn something from this incident.

Perhaps if nothing else, the Code of Conduct that perhaps many of us do not

often read, from time to time maybe we should read it and make sure that we are

not doing something to ourselves or putting ourselves in a situation

unintentionally that puts us in a breach of the code. As I said, I hope all of

us have learned something from this and perhaps develop a keener understanding

of the rules and the expectations.

Third, I would hope, Mr. Speaker, that the public will see in this a couple

of things; number one, perhaps a recognition that we are all human. Politicians

are no different than members of the public. We do things sometimes that cause

us to perhaps exercise bad judgment or perhaps make a mistake, oftentimes

unintentional.

We are no different and I say this a lot in my district when I talk to

people - the only difference in the forty-eight of us here is that our names

went on a ballot and we won and got the right to sit in here. We are no

different than the other people we represent. I would hope the public would see

today perhaps that there is a very human side to members of this House.

Secondly, I would hope that the public would have respect for this House of

Assembly and for the people in here in seeing that we are taking the issue very

seriously, all members here, and that we are holding one of our own members

accountable for the actions that have occurred. We are going to take the

appropriate action today.

With that, Mr. Speaker, I have made a few points that I thought were

important to make on behalf of government. I want to conclude my remarks and

invite my colleagues, whoever may wish to speak next.

Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I stand today as the House Leader for the Official Opposition and to speak to

the matter before us. I am speaking today on behalf of the entire Opposition

caucus.

Today, in front of us we have a motion that stems from a complaint and a

subsequent report by the Commissioner for Legislative Standards. The facts of

the matter have been laid out by Mr. Powers, and I certainly do not see any need

to reiterate or rehash these matters. I think the report speaks for itself and

lays out the situation very clearly.

In many ways, we are here basically because of serious events that impacted

this Legislature back in the mid-2000s. Again, the facts of that time have been

laid out very well, have been very well reported. What happened did lead to a

very comprehensive review and a report that was filed in 2007 by Chief Justice

Green, the Green Report that we all know very well.

It certainly was a dark period. The purpose of this was we needed to rebound

and we needed to restore confidence in us, members of the House of Assembly, as

public officials. That is what we need to do, is restore confidence in the

people that we represent. The Code of Conduct was born, legislation was created,

and a guide for members was created as well and established.

Being an elected member of the House of the Assembly carries with it a great

responsibility. We have a duty to those that we represent, and I am very

confident when I say that every single one of us in here takes that duty very

seriously, every single one of us. What happens, though, when it involves one

member of the House it really does have the effect, in some ways, of affecting

all of us as members.

One other thing that comes out of this as well is it is very hard for us, as

members, for one to judge another. Therefore, we did establish the position of a

Commissioner of Members' Interest, whose task was the duty of ensuring that

there are no conflicts of interest; ensuring that the confidence is maintained,

and to make sure that the people know we are in here and we are doing our job

and doing it well, and again, looking out to those we represent and whose trust

we are here to maintain.

We accept the findings of the Commissioner in this case. Looking at the

report, the Commissioner has found that the member breached the code due to an

oversight. To me, an oversight is similar to an absolute liability offence in

many ways. The lack of intent, even if there is no intent there, it does not

remove the responsibility or the wrongdoing. So the commission of the act alone

is enough to satisfy the wrongdoing, even if the offender or individual did not

intend to commit said act.

In the world that we live in, the political world, perception is reality. The

appearance of wrongdoing, or just being perceived to be involved in wrongdoing

can be fatal. It can be fatal to all of us. We have been entrusted by the public

to protect their interests. As members, we have to do everything to make sure

that this trust is maintained. I think that is the big, overarching theme here,

is that we have to ensure that trust is maintained. We have gone through a dark

period. We have learned from that. I think everybody has learned from that.

The situation itself, we are talking about disclosure statements. Again, it

is just another step that is vital in maintaining the confidence in our system.

Obviously, government acted very quickly on this. The fact that the matter was

referred to the RNC very quickly shows that it was taken serious and was looked

at as serious. I think everybody was satisfied and relieved when the RNC did

their due diligence, did the report and came back and the case was closed. We

are happy to see that.

We have reviewed this report and we have reviewed the motion made by the

Government House Leader. The legislation points to different penalties that can

be found or enforced upon a member who is found in breach. In this case, the

Commissioner recommended the penalty of a reprimand. We are satisfied with that

finding, and with the Government House Leader's motion. We will be supporting

that motion.

There is certainly no enjoyment to be found in having to deal with a matter

of this nature. Nobody is happy to have to deal with it, but it is necessary if

we are to ensure the confidence of the people is still there with us. Any breach

has to be treated as serious, which I think this has been.

Any breach, even when by a sole member, affects every single one of us.

Therefore, I am satisfied that this has been treated seriously, that due

diligence has been exercised, the matter has been dealt with in a public manner

and I am hoping this will satisfy the public and us all. Again, it is something

none of us wants to be here for, but we are here and I think it is being dealt

with in a satisfactory manner, and it is the only way to deal with it.

Those will conclude my remarks, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

As House Leader, I too represent our caucus and I think it is important to

speak to this motion because of its seriousness.

The report by the Commissioner for Legislative Standards gives us an

opportunity here today to reflect on our responsibilities under the House of

Assembly Act, the House of Assembly Accountability, Integrity and Administration

Act, and as well, the Members' Code of Conduct which was asked for by

Commissioner Greene, as has been mentioned already, and which is referred to in

our Accountability, Integrity and Administration Act.

As elected representatives, we are responsible to the people of the Province

for our conduct. That is why we have a Commissioner for Legislative Standards.

We have to be held accountable for all we do that relates to us in our role as

MHAs, and we all know how wide that accountability is. Our experience, if

nothing else, teaches us that once we become elected.

Part of that accountability is the individual responsibility. We all have to

make sure we understand our duties and responsibilities and the legislation that

covers the carrying out of them. We have to make every effort to ensure that we

understand fully the acts and the Code of Conduct. The fact that we are here

this afternoon and having this discussion I am sure is going to send all of us

into making sure that we do have clear understanding.

There is one thing I would like to focus on. The major finding of the

Commissioner deals with conflict of interest, which is referenced in our Code of

Conduct: "Members will base their conduct on a consideration of the public

interest. They are individually responsible for preventing conflicts of interest

and will endeavour to prevent them from arising. Members will take all

reasonable steps to resolve any such conflict quickly and in a manner which is

in the best interests of the public."

We, each one, shall need to read carefully the Commissioner's report where he

guides us in how to interpret conflict of interest, himself using a broader

interpretation than that found in the House of Assembly Act, in order to ensure

accountability, transparency, and public trust in the administration of our

offices as MHAs. I welcome the Commissioner's report since it offers us real

clarity in this area. Public trust can be lost in many ways, and we have had

other examples of public trust being lost in this House. That has been

referenced, too, by the Opposition House Leader. The report now gives us a

bigger picture in which to assess how that can happen and how we can act with

integrity, and that is the important thing.

Mr. Speaker, we will be happy as a caucus to vote to accept this report.

MR. SPEAKER: Is the House ready for the question?

AN HON. MEMBER: Yes.

MR. SPEAKER: All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

The hon. the Member for Conception Bay East Bell Island.

MR. BRAZIL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I apologize to the House of Assembly for my oversight.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I call from the Order Paper, Order 3, third reading of a bill,

An Act To

Amend The Services Charges Act, Bill 5.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Environment

and Conservation, that Bill 5,

An Act To Amend The Services Charges Act, be now

read a third time.

MR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded that this bill be now read a

third time.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion that Bill 5 be now read a

third time?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend The Services Charges Act. (Bill 5)

MR. SPEAKER: This bill has now been read a third time and it is ordered

that the bill do pass and that the title be as on the Order Paper.

On motion, a bill, "An Act To Amend The Services Charges Act", read a third

time, ordered passed and its title be as on the Order Paper. (Bill 5)

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I call from the Order Paper, Order 5, second reading of a bill,

An Act To Amend The Revenue Administration Act No. 4, Bill 12.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member of Advanced Education and Skills.

MR. O'BRIEN: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I am glad to get on my feet today to speak

to

An Act to Amend the Revenue Administration Act No. 4, Bill 12. This is a

piece that we need to get done

MR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded by?

MR. O'BRIEN: Oh, I am sorry, Mr. Speaker.

It is seconded by the Minister of Education.

MR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded that Bill 12,

An Act To Amend

The Revenue Administration Act No. 4, be now read a second time.

Motion, second reading of a bill, "An Act To Amend The Revenue Administration

Act No. 4". (Bill 6)

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

MR. O'BRIEN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Again, I am sorry for forgetting to mention the seconder, but I am on my feet

this afternoon to speak to

An Act to Amend the Revenue Administration No. 4,

Bill 12. This piece of work, Mr. Speaker, seeks the approval to amend the

Revenue Administration Act to make some minor technical details and a change

relating to the mining tax.

The mining tax, Mr. Speaker, is required once the operator achieves

commercial production. In other words, they have significant expenditures and

time may very well pass between the decision to move forward with a mine,

bringing the mine into production, and actually achieving commercial production.

So right now, Mr. Speaker, we have to rely on the first mining tax return

filed by the operator, which is filed when the commercial production is

achieved. Then we get the opportunity to review the expenditures to determine

their appropriateness and the deductibility. As well, due to the fact that

significant time may have passed, documents certainly may not be available, if

at all, so that makes it hard for the people in the Finance department to do a

proper evaluation on the commercial operation and what has transpired between

the time they first entered into the process to bring that mine to production.

So it is relative to these recent amendments in the Revenue Administration

regulations that now require a person that holds a mining lease to file a tax

return. This amendment that we propose today is to add a new provision that

would make

Part I,

Part II,

Part VII, and

Part X of the act apply to a person

who has been issued a mining lease, but who is not yet liable to pay tax under

the act, Mr. Speaker.

So I want to be clear on that. The person would not be liable to pay tax, but

they certainly would be liable to file a return. That way the Finance department

can do an evaluation.

To just explain a little bit further, Mr. Speaker,

Part I of the act contains

the general administration provisions, such as maintaining the books and

records, confidentiality, and penalties and offences under the act.

Part II of

the act is the Inspection and Compliance provisions which provide officials with

the necessary legislative authority to inspect a business and/or their books and

records.

Part VII of the act is specific provisions for the administration of

the Mining and Mineral Rights Tax Act.

Part X contains the Regulations,

Transitional and Commencement provisions.

The reason a new provision is required is because a person who only holds a

mining lease is not yet a taxpayer under the act. This amendment will make that

person subject to the provisions of the act as if they were a taxpayer.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, this is really a bit of housekeeping in regard to

the act. It would make the process more transparent and clear for the Department

of Finance to allow our people to actually evaluate the operation in its

entirety from its beginning to the actual time that it goes into

commercialization. The reason for that, to be clear on that as well, is this is

a long period of time we are talking about from the first start to going to

commercialization. Sometimes records get lost; sometimes records are not filed.

This way we will collect them all the way along, and it will make it a lot more

transparent in that process.

With that, Mr. Speaker, I will take my place in the House and listen to all

the comments of my hon. colleagues across the House. I will take any questions

or anything that they might provide in regard to their speaking. I certainly

consider this just a simple amendment to the act to come in-line with the

regulations to certainly enable our Finance officials to do their job more

effectively and provide a service that they provide to the people of the

Province.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is a pleasure to stand today and speak to Bill 12,

An Act to Amend the

Revenue Administration Act No. 4. Obviously, given the very meagre size of this

bill, it is a housekeeping bill. I hate to use the term that it has not much

substance because that is not the case; everything we change has substance to

it. However, it is not a large bill and it is more of a housekeeping nature.

My understanding of it is that it has to deal with regulations, and

regulations that are being gazetted. When we talk about the mining companies,

there is often a very long span of time in between the time they get their

leases and the time they actually go into production. During that period of

time, there is no payment and no taxation.

Basically what we are trying to do here is we are trying to amend this so

that mining companies will now have to file the tax returns on a yearly basis so

that the Province has a better handle on the amount of expenses that have been

incurred in relation to that project. That seems like a very sensible amendment,

obviously. The good news is, with everything going on, it seems like something

we might see more of because we do see a lot of news stories going on these days

with mining.

Actually, there was a story in the paper just this week about more

exploration going on, on the Burgeo highway, more finds on the Burgeo highway

near Stephenville. When you talk about what is going on, there are a lot of

districts all over the place certainly in my own I have seen some work, and it

is very exciting, very encouraging.

I do not think this provision is onerous on any company. I think it is

necessary. What we need to find out is that when the mining company actually

does go into production, what are the expenses being incurred by that company?

We need to know what these companies are expending and what it is costing.

Again, there could be a huge period of time between the time they get the lease

and the time they actually go into production.

Speaking to mining, again, I had an opportunity to speak to different

companies over the summer that were out in my district and just getting a handle

on the amount of time and the amount of money that goes into the process leading

up to production. It is absolutely amazing. You have no idea until you have sat

down with them.

This is basically formalizing this approach. It is timely and we need to find

out what these expenses are. This needs to be changed in the legislation because

the change in regulations was insufficient to mandate the mining companies to

file expenses in their tax returns annually. So it needs to be done. If we do

not do this, companies are able to forego that recommendation and obviously we

do not want that.

Again, I would love to stand here and continue on about mining because there

is a lot of good news in the mining industry. I am very happy to see that and

hopefully there will be lots of tax returns coming in that are identifying this.

Hopefully our goal is to reduce the amount of time in between mining lease and

production because once that production starts the revenues coming in are

certainly going to be great for this Province.

I am happy to speak to this amendment. We will be supporting this, obviously.

I may have some questions during Committee and look forward to hearing the rest

of the comments by members.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Signal Hill Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: (Inaudible) and I am happy to have the opportunity to speak

to Bill 12,

An Act to Amend the Revenue Administration Act No. 4. I thank the

department and the minister for the briefing that our staff received on this. We

feel quite comfortable with the fact that the change that is being suggested is

truly nothing more than strictly housekeeping and it actually makes legal a

practice that has been going on for a long time. Making sure that this practice

is put in legislation then becomes very important.

The amount of time, that has been pointed out already, but the amount of time

that lapses between somebody getting a lease and going through with a decision

to mine and then getting the mine into production is a long time; and it is

important, I think, to hold companies accountable for the fact that they are

using the land. I think that would be the rationale for the fact that they would

need to file tax reports, that they are using the land. Whether they have gone

into production or not, there is a responsibility for the fact they have been

given a lease and a responsibility for the fact that they are using the land and

the resource that belongs to the people of the Province.

It is extremely important that we have legalized this practice that has been

going on. The technical amendment allows tax officials the access to mining

properties and records from the issuance of the lease. That is really, really

important that the companies are being held accountable.

I think it is important, especially with companies coming in from outside of

our Province and outside of Canada that we have a legal document that is very,

very clear. They do not always come in knowing what our standards are here. They

may know it in some ways, but they come in with standards from the country where

they are coming from, whether those are environmental standards, labour

standards, standards around doing the business. So it is very important that we

are clear with them and that we make sure that anything that we want in practice

is legal, binding, and in our legislation.

That is why I would ask the government to think about other ways, especially

with the growth that is happening in mining in the Province, think about the

other ways in which government should also be looking at the companies that are

doing the mining and looking at legislation in other ways that we may need to

put in place.

We have had experiences here in the Province where mining companies coming in

from outside of the country do not seem to understand our labour standards, for

example. It would be very important for this government to do something that

they promised some years ago, and that was looking at anti-scab legislation.

Because we have had proof in this Province that you have companies coming in

that think it is quite all right to keep workers out on an eighteen-month picket

line, for example.

I do encourage this government to do more than housekeeping when it comes to

putting legislation in place dealing with mining companies. Housekeeping is

important, having correct legal language in there to cover practices that are

going on is important, but I ask the government to look more closely at the

other issues that they have to look at with regard to the influx of mining

companies into our Province and make sure that they do a little bit more work

than just housekeeping when it comes to looking at legislative change for the

people and for the workers, especially in the mining companies in this Province.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills. If

he speaks now, he will adjourn debate.

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, I am happy to adjourn debate in regard to the

amendments to the Revenue Administration Act, Bill 12. I am happy to see that my

colleagues across the House are in concurrence and in support of the proposed

bill. It certainly will not be a burden on the companies doing business in our

jurisdiction with regard to the mining industry.

As well, it will enable the Finance officials in the department to do their

work more effectively, to evaluate the expenditures that takes a company from

the period that they are given a lease to the actual time that they go into

production. This is all good. Again, I want to thank my colleagues across the

House for their comments and their support on the bill.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Is it the pleasure of the House that the said bill be now

read a second time?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend The Revenue Administration Act No. 4.

(Bill 12)

MR. SPEAKER: This bill has now been read a second time.

When shall the bill be referred to a Committee of the Whole?

MR. KING: Now.

MR. SPEAKER: Now.

On motion, a bill, "An Act To Amend The Revenue Administration Act No. 4",

read a second time, ordered referred to a Committee of the Whole presently, by

leave.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Advanced Education and

Skills, that the House do now resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole to

consider Bill 12.

MR. SPEAKER: It is moved and seconded that the House do now resolve

itself into Committee of the Whole and that I do now leave the Chair.

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

On motion, that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole, Mr.

Speaker left the Chair.

Committee of the Whole

CHAIR (Littlejohn): Order, please!

We are now considering Bill 12,

An Act To Amend The Revenue Administration

Act No. 4.

A bill, "An Act To Amend The Revenue Administration Act No. 4". (Bill 12)

CLERK: Clause 1.

CHAIR: Shall clause 1 carry?

The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The bill that was put forward is quite simple in nature, but I did have a

question for the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills because it talks

about when "issued a mining lease, but who is not liable to pay tax under the

Act."

Is there a timeline of which somebody could hold a lease? It may have

commercial value and they are just not producing, that could have impact where

they could be charged fees?

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

MR. O'BRIEN: Under the current legislation, Mr. Chair, there is no time

frame. It is hard to predict how much time it would take from the time that a

lease is actually issued to the time of production. There are a lot of variables

that have to come into play, including financing. These are usually big

operations, so that period of time is unpredictable. To put a time frame on it

would really hamper the growth in the industry on a go-forward basis.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Yes, Mr. Chair, I will be speaking in support of this bill;

my entire caucus, I think, is going to support this bill.

One of the points that have not been mentioned, which I think is probably

useful, is that one of the big challenges in government is estimating revenue.

Undoubtedly, estimating revenue from oil, from mining, and from all sorts of

resource development is a tricky process. If you have a company, such as a

mining company, for example, and they spend many years in development, they rack

up all sorts of expenses, losses that they have carried forward for three, five,

seven, or ten years.

The Finance department is expecting they are going to come ashore with maybe

a couple of hundred million dollars profit one of these days in their first

year; meanwhile, they have a couple of hundred dollars worth of losses they are

carrying forward, then the Treasury is trying to estimate a certain amount of

income based on when they will become profitable without having any real insight

into what their losses are.

I think, even though it is a very short bill and it seems like a relatively

minor bill, it probably seeks to do more. Maybe the original drafters in the

department would like to have some better view, a better idea of what the

revenue will be when whatever mining enterprise comes in and becomes profitable.

I think it is a useful bill, even though it is small. It is useful for

streamlining anticipated income. To do that you need to know what the losses

are. If the companies are filing tax returns, then at least the Province knows

what the losses are that are being carried forward. The losses have to be

recovered before we get any tax revenue.

That is my only point on this bill. I am happy to support it.

Thank you.

CHAIR: Shall clause 1 carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clause 1 carried.

CLERK:

Be it enacted by the Lieutenant Governor and House of Assembly in

Legislative Session convened, as follows.

On motion, enacting clause carried.

CHAIR: Shall I report the bill without amendment?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

Motion, that the Committee report having passed the bill without amendment,

carried.

CHAIR: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, I move that the Committee rise and report Bill 12.

CHAIR: The motion is that the Committee rise and report Bill 12.

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, that the Committee rise, report progress and ask leave to sit

again, Mr. Speaker returned to the Chair.

MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman): The hon. the Member for the District of Port de

Grave.

MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Speaker, the Committee of the Whole have considered

the matters to them referred and have directed me to report Bill 12 without

amendment.

MR. SPEAKER: The Chair of Committee of the Whole reports that the

Committee have considered the matters to them referred and have directed him to

report Bill 12 without amendment.

When shall the report be received?

MR. KING: Now.

MR. SPEAKER: Now.

When shall the bill be read a third time?

MR. KING: Tomorrow.

MR. SPEAKER: On tomorrow.

On motion, report received and adopted. Bill ordered read a third time on

tomorrow.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

This time I call Order 1, Committee of Supply: (

a) Resolution and Bill

No. 8 Respecting the Granting of Supplementary Supply to Her Majesty.

MR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded that I do now leave the

Chair.

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

On motion, that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole, Mr.

Speaker left the Chair.

Committee of the Whole

CHAIR (Littlejohn): We are considering the resolution, Bill 8,

An Act For

Granting To Her Majesty Certain Sums Of Money For Defraying Certain Additional

Expenses Of The Public Service For the Financial Year Ending March 31, 2014 And

For Other Purposes Relating To The Public Service.

A bill, "An Act For Granting To Her Majesty Certain Sums Of Money For

Defraying Certain Additional Expenses Of The Public Service For the Financial

Year Ending March 31, 2014 And For Other Purposes Relating To The Public

Service". (Bill 8)

CHAIR: Clause 1.

The hon. the Member for Humber West.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. GRANTER: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

It is a great opportunity this afternoon to stand and speak to the Address in

Reply bill, but before I do I just want to say congratulations to the Forget Me

Not Campaign in Corner Brook, that this morning unveiled another memorial to

those who laid down the ultimate sacrifice in the First World War and the Second

World War and the wars that have been fought since.

In particular, to Dave Higdon and Gudrid Hutchings, as Chair, persons of that

particular committee who have been working over the last little while on raising

funds. I want to wish them well tonight as they embark upon their second annual

gala in Corner Brook and wish them very much success in that this evening.

Mr. Chair, I, like many of my colleagues, have had the opportunity over the

last number of months, in particular over the summer, to travel around the

Province and chat on doorsteps and at family gatherings and at reunions and

barbecues; and, yes, Mr. Chair, probably too many barbecues over the summer.

Mr. Chair, if there is a theme that runs through all conversations, no matter

who I had a chance to speak to over the summer, was of great growth over the

past ten years, and great and vast opportunities that await this place.

I had the opportunity this past Saturday, while picking up my car at a garage

in Corner Brook, to have a conversation with a gentleman who had left

Newfoundland nearly forty years ago. With only a few holiday visits, he came

back a number of times, but came back a couple of years ago to retire. Without

me prompting him, his thoughts, or his dialogue, in the few minutes that I had a

chance to speak with him, he talked about and put into context the situation

that he found himself in returning to Newfoundland and how great of a change

that has taken place over the last number of years.

He recalled life nearly forty years ago when he left Newfoundland and

Labrador, with the lack of growth and the lack of opportunity, the reliance on

short-term seasonal employment, Mr. Chair. He recalled crumbling infrastructure,

little infrastructure investment, and only little bits of investment in our

people.

He said after working away for nearly forty years and returning to this place

he returned to a different Province; more importantly, Mr. Chair, he returned to

a different people, and he returned to a people who have vast opportunities

today and vast opportunities in the next number of years.

Very quickly he felt he was surrounded by a people and a place that believed,

a Province that had matured over the last forty years to take its rightful

place, plan, develop and implement its own destiny. He articulated to me

because he has only been back for two years that he said all of that from

someone who looked in from the outside, because he had spent so much time away

from Newfoundland, his own Province.

Mr. Chair, he said that he could not believe the changes in nearly

everything. He talked in a very frank way about politics in this Province and

spoke strongly of the good decisions made in Newfoundland and Labrador over the

last decade or so. I was interested when he spoke of the need to make tough

decisions, ones that will serve the Province well as we move forward.

Leadership, Mr. Chair, means the ability to make tough decisions. Not only the

ability, but the integrity to actually make them and carry them out.

He did not have all praise for the government, like no one should, but I felt

good that he recognized that making decisions based on principles and fact, not

on opinion, is the way to go.

Mr. Chair, like this man I spoke to last Saturday, many of us, myself

included, had many conversations this past summer and again, there is no doubt

in my mind, there is no doubt in the minds of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians,

that we as a people and we as a place feel better about where we are and we are

geared to move forward in a very position way. Newfoundlanders and Labradorians

feel good about where we are and about the destiny that we have before us.

Our communities are doing better, Mr. Chair, but there is still work to be

done and this government is up to the task. That does not mean that everything

is perfect and there is not more good work to take place. There is much more

work to do in Newfoundland and Labrador, but this government is up to the task

to deliver.

To the contrary, Mr. Chair, as a government we recognize the vast changes

that we have made for the betterment of people in this Province, but we are

equipped to make this place ever better in the next few years.

Mr. Chair, these things do not just appear; they do not just pop up before

our eyes. It requires planning, it requires determination, and, yes, decisions

that are based on principles. We know the state we can get ourselves into if we

make decisions that are not based on principles. All you have to do is go back

and look at the history of Newfoundland and Labrador and see what government did

and the state that this Province became when they started to make decisions that

were not based on principles.

Mr. Chair, this, I believe, is a golden opportunity in this Province in many

areas. I just ask the people who are listening at home to reflect on where we

were to where we are today and the potential that we have for the next four,

five, ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, thirty years out. We have a gold

opportunity in oil, in mining, and in tourism.

Yes, in the fishery, we have a golden opportunity and we have just laid some

groundwork for that. In forestry and agrifoods and in research and development

amazing things taking place in Newfoundland and Labrador in research and

development, monies that government has put into research and development has

garnered hundreds of millions of dollars from the investments that we have made

in research and development. Opportunities in education, and, yes, in private

business.

You only have to travel around the Province, all over the Province, in

Labrador, from the Northern Peninsula to the South Coast to the East Coast, to

see what opportunities we have in private business and the list goes on. Hebron

is an example; it will make a significant contribution to offshore production

and its royalties, garnered by the Province including $14 billion in capital

costs.

Work opportunities, as my colleague to my left spoke about a few days ago, in

Marystown, Bull Arm, Long Harbour, and recently with the announcement in

Argentia and Labrador and yes, Mr. Chair, in Western Newfoundland and

Labrador. Others will sustain and build upon the growth opportunities for this

and future generations. The North Amethyst site will produce an estimated 6

million to 8 million extra barrels of oil and, among other projects, will assist

in driving the economic engine as we move forward, Mr. Chair.

Just last week we celebrated Mining Week 2013 in the Province, and the

excitement associated with the current and future opportunities are numbing in

mining. The mining industry has played a significant role in positioning our

provincial economy on a strong footing, Mr. Chair.

The industry employs directly 11,500 lucrative paying jobs for

Newfoundlanders and Labradorians. The mines of Newfoundland and Labrador provide

the world with many key commodities. The industry in this Province, Mr. Chair,

produces more than a dozen mineral compositions that contribute to our economy

and our way of life. I will list just a few that we are producing in

Newfoundland: iron, nickel, copper, zinc, aggregates, cobalt, gold, and silver.

Last summer, Mr. Chair, I had the opportunity to visit the Port au Port

Peninsula where dolomite is being mined. That is an amazing facility out on the

Port au Port Peninsula, run by local Newfoundlanders and Labradorians a local

family from the West Coast, from Corner Brook who is providing nearly

year-round employment to 125-plus people. It is an amazing, amazing facility.

I was told last week that the value of mineral exports alone for this year is

estimated to be at $4.3 billion $4.3 billion. Last spring, Mr. Chair, I was

glad to go to the press release downstairs in this building, where we talked

about the agreement to mine underground in Voisey's Bay that will create

hundreds of jobs for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians, and also generate

millions of dollars for the economy of this Province.

Work on the Labrador Trough through Tata Steel represents our first new

producing iron ore mine in nearly fifty years in the Province. Alderon's Kami

Iron Ore Project is moving toward sanction and will create economic engines and

benefits and drive the economic growth in this Province.

Mr. Chair, I could speak on and on about this particular topic, and I might

get a chance to speak to it again; but what it means is that we are able to take

the economic engine that minerals and offshore oil is generating for the people

of the Province and invest in our communities, invest in our schools, invest in

hospitals, invest in new clinics, and invest in our highways. That is why it is

absolutely, critically important.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

CHAIR: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

It was strange to hear, where we are on Bill 8 about the funding, the $1,400

for the workers that they are trying to get out, the government workers, it is

strange that the Member for Humber West never mentioned them once. I guess after

laying off 1,400, I wouldn't blame you for not mentioning the 1,400 who were

laid off, and a lot from your own district and a lot from your own association.

When you want to stand up and speak about the bill, we should speak about the

workers, what this is for, instead of speaking about the bill but I would be

ashamed, too.

Mr. Chair, I would be ashamed, too, if you were walking in here now and

talking about how good the government is after just laying off 1,200 to 1,400

people. A lot from his own district, a lot he knows personally, a lot who are on

his own association, but he never had the courage to bring up what we are

discussing here today.

We are discussing here today the hard work of the civil servants in this

Province. That is what this bill is about. This is not here to tout government.

This is not up here to tout government. This is what this is all about, Mr.

Chair. This is what it is all about.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

CHAIR: Order, please!

MR. JOYCE: I heard a Parliamentary Assistant over there saying something

but I do not think he ever stood up yet on his feet to talk about the 1,400

people who were laid off, Mr. Chair, and I bet you he will not. He will not

stand up and talk about it because he was the one who helped to make the

decision to do that.

I say to the Member for Humber West, if you want to get up let's speak about

the bill. Let's speak about the people who were laid off. I think the civil

servants do a great job. I look down in the Bay of Islands; I look at the people

in Transportation and Works. I look at the work they do keeping the roads safe.

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