Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 14 March 2013 (47th General Assembly, 1st Session, Vol. XLVII No. 77)

2013-03-14

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 14 March 2013 (47th General Assembly, 1st Session, Vol. XLVII No. 77)

2013-03-14

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

March

14, 2013 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS Vol.

XLVII No. 77

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman): Order, please!

Admit strangers.

I am very pleased today to have some special guests in our gallery. We are

joined today by forty Level II students from the Botwood Community Youth Network

and Botwood Collegiate located in the District of Exploits. The students are

accompanied today by the chaperones Heather Brown, Darlene Rice, Gloria Cooper,

and Chris Laing.

Welcome.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: We are also joined by Meaghan Barnhill and Andrew Butler,

members of the One Billion Rising Committee of St. John's.

I also want to acknowledge an individual in the gallery today, she marks a

milestone in the history of one significant organization in our Province, but

also a significant movement for the skilled trades and females involved in the

skilled trades. Today we are very pleased to welcome Shauna Sutton, who is the

first female carpenter hired by the Newfoundland and Labrador Housing

Corporation.

Welcome.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

Statements by Members

MR. SPEAKER: Today, we have members' statements from the Member for the

District of Cape St. Francis, the Member for the District of Conception Bay East

Bell Island, the Member for the District of Bonavista South, the Member for

the District of St. John's Centre, the Member for the District of Baie Verte

Springdale, and the Member for the District of Port au Port.

The hon. the Member for the District of Cape St. Francis.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. K. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, I rise in this hon. House today to recognize

a wonderful person. Recently, I had the honour of presenting Mrs. Mary Power

with the Queen's Jubilee Medal.

Mary Power's passion and dedication truly impresses her peers, community

residents and everyone that has the pleasure of knowing her.

Mrs. Power is currently volunteering at Eastern Health where she is a health

care auxiliary lifetime member. Mary visits and serves lunch to patients at the

Miller Centre, and volunteers at Easter Seals and the Newfoundland and Labrador

Heart and Stroke Association. She also visits seniors' homes on a regular basis,

the Hoyles Escasoni and North Pond Nursing Home in Torbay, where she brings

Communion and leads the Rosary every Friday.

Mary is a Eucharistic Minister at the Holy Trinity Church and a Legion of

Mary member. At St. Thomas' Anglican Church, Mrs. Power serves Christmas Day

dinner.

Every day Mrs. Power gives time to someone in need, visiting seniors' homes

and advocating for the sick and needy. She always has a smile on her face, and

the warmth she gives people is unbelievable.

I ask all members in this House to join with me in congratulating Mrs. Power

on a lifetime of good work.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Conception Bay East Bell Island.

MR. BRAZIL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I stand in this House to recognize a community event I attended recently

which exemplifies the independence, resourcefulness and camaraderie of rural

Newfoundland and Labrador. I talk of the presentation of a $54,000,

sixteen-passenger van to the Wabana Boys and Girls Club.

This resource will ensure that the youth of the Island are not hindered from

participating in programs offered by the club. This asset will give the 380

members of the club the ability to participate in education, recreation, and

sporting events off the Island. This van will add pride and peace of mind for

staff, parents, and members who will travel in a safe, comfortable manner.

Through a sixteen-month initiative led by the local senior hockey team and

supported by the business community and residents, ticket draws, special

tournaments and personal donations were collected from alumni of the club from

as far away as Africa. Local club alumni members Bob Basha, Walter King, Terry

Yetman and Joe Somerton co-ordinated the campaign. No government money was

requested or required for the purchase of this community asset.

I ask all members to congratulate such an independent community.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Bonavista South.

MR. LITTLE: Mr. Speaker, hon. colleagues, I rise today to recognize Katie

and Shane Hayes, who were recently bestowed with the Restaurateur of the Year

award from the Restaurant Association of Newfoundland and Labrador. This

presentation was made at the 2013 Hospitality Newfoundland and Labrador Awards.

Katie and Shane are the owners and operators of the Bonavista Social Club, a

restaurant and a food production outlet located in Upper Amherst Cove, a small

rural community in the District of Bonavista South. They offer a truly unique

dining experience, promoting local food and culture, practicing agriculture and

animal farming to provide much of the products used in the foods prepared at the

Bonavista Social Club. A variety of breads are prepared daily in the only

commercial wood-fired bread oven in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Katie is a graduate of the Culinary Institute of Canada and a Red Seal Chef.

The couple has incorporated hands-on events such as an annual Garlic Festival

and a Harvest Work Weekend, making their business more about a lifestyle and not

just a business.

Mr. Speaker, hon. colleagues, please join me in congratulating Katie and

Shane Hayes on receiving such an honourable recognition in the short time since

they started business in May of 2012.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to celebrate an historic event in my District of St. John's

Centre.

Eve Ensler, the writer of The Vagina Monologues , created One Billion

Rising, a global call to action to end violence against women and a

celebration of the work done globally and locally. Eve called 1 billion people

to rise up. We sure did in St. John's Centre.

I was proud to sponsor One Billion Rising St. John's, along with the women

of the Newfoundland and Labrador Federation of Labour, NAPE, CUPE, the FFAW,

Marguerite's Place, the CLC, and MUN's Women's Resource Centre.

Together we organized a huge community event that was open to everyone in the

public. We had information booths, live music, and dancing. More than forty

social action community groups participated.

I want to single out the Multicultural Women's Organization of Newfoundland

and Labrador. They played a huge role; their members from all parts of the world

cooked food, danced, entertained, sang, and sold crafts.

One Billion Rising St. John's was an incredible success. Open to everyone

in the community, over 1,000 people came to our February 14 celebration at the

Knights of Columbus Hall to celebrate and to thank those who do such important

work in this area. We did it in style!

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for the District of Baie Verte Springdale.

MR. POLLARD: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

At the Atlantic Craft Trade Show in Halifax, attracting about 1,200 buyers

from across Canada and the Northeastern United States, representing more than

150 craft makers from the Atlantic Region, King's Point Pottery took home the

Outstanding Craft Retailer Award.

Mr. Speaker, I rise in this hon. House to congratulate owners David Hayashida

and Linda Yates for their immense dedication, unmatched hard work, and this

recent major achievement.

This award recognizes an individual, organization, or company that

demonstrates excellence in display, merchandising and service to the public and,

through retailing, represents their Province with quality craft and giftware

products.

Elated with capturing top honours, Yates says that this award will "take our

shop and gallery from being known mainly as a Newfoundland attraction and turns

it into an Atlantic Canadian destination."

Mr. Speaker, I invite all colleagues in this hon. House to join me in

applauding King's Point Pottery upon their outstanding accomplishment and wish

them every success as they continue to grow their business and promote the arts

and craft industry.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for the District of Port au Port.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CORNECT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to recognize Danny and Mary McCann for their untiring volunteer

work in the community of Port au Port West. They are a dynamic and creative

husband-and-wife team that truly exemplifies the heart of what volunteers are.

Recently, Danny and Mary each received the Queen's Diamond Jubilee Medal in

recognition of their great community work.

The value of Danny and Mary's contributions to the community over their

lifetime are immeasurable. This couple has been involved in several local and

provincial committees. They initiated the Gravels Development Group that created

a 3.5 kilometre hiking trail, the restoration of Our Lady of Mercy Gym, and the

maintaining of Our Lady of Mercy Church as a tourist attraction, and, Mr.

Speaker, the list just goes on of their accomplishments.

Volunteering is a selfless act that is motivated by a desire to help and

enrich the lives of others.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all hon. members to join with me in offering my

appreciation and to thank Danny and Mary McCann for their many, many hours of

endless volunteer work that has led to the betterment of our community, our

region, and our Province.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Statements by Ministers.

Statements by Ministers

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, I am honoured to rise today to highlight the

achievements of an employee of Newfoundland and Labrador Housing.

carpenter ever hired by the corporation. What sets Ms Sutton apart is not her

gender, but the example she puts forward as a mentor to other young women

wishing to pursue a career in the trades here in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Ms Sutton's record of achievement began while enrolled at the Carpenters

Millwright College in Paradise in 2008, where she won the school's Award of

Excellence for education, leadership, and safety skills. In 2009 she became the

first female apprentice registered with the Office to Advance Women Apprentices,

and the first to find employment with Newfoundland and Labrador Housing

Corporation.

Recently, she joined other female tradespersons selected from across North

America by the United Brotherhood of Carpenters to take

part in a three-day

female mentorship program in Las Vegas.

Ms Sutton is a committed mentor, volunteering time to appear at high schools

and as a demonstrator for Skills Canada intermediate competitions, and visiting

community centres to speak to female youth about her career path. She has also

been blessed with terrific mentors in her own life, including family,

co-workers, and instructors.

Mr. Speaker, a carpenter of Ms Sutton's experience and skills could likely

find employment abroad; however, she has made a conscious choice to stay and

contribute to the growth of our Province through affordable housing construction

and mentorship to young women pursuing careers in the trades.

Ms Sutton is a shining example of the incredible time of opportunity for

women in Newfoundland and Labrador, especially when it comes to opportunities in

the skilled trades. In fact, Mr. Speaker, since 2009, the number of women

enrolled in skilled trades in the Province has grown by 33 per cent.

Through innovative programs such as our Journeyperson Mentorship Program, we

are increasing job opportunities in the skilled trades, particularly for

under-represented groups, including women.

I invite my colleagues in this hon. House to join me in congratulating Ms

Sutton for her contributions and to wish her all the best on her upcoming

journeyperson exam.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for the last-minute copy of her statement.

Congratulations to Shauna Sutton for being the first female carpenter hired by

the Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation. As an award-winning student

and mentor, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing are fortunate for this addition.

I imagine it must be intimidating for women like Shauna, who are making their

way through traditionally male-dominated professions. It takes bravery and

courage to be a trailblazer for other women. With a labour shortage of 70,000,

encouraging women to try the trades, which are well-paying career paths, is a

positive step forward for both women and industry.

I would be remiss, Mr. Speaker, if I did not address the 226 EAS job losses

this minister instructed, many of whom are also women. All of these workers

encourage people to try the trades as well, although they were not given the

extension they needed. What seems to be lost on government is the means to this

end of labour shortage: EAS agencies.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, congratulations to Ms Sutton on her achievements and

on being such a pioneer.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Thanks to the minister for an advance copy of her statement.

I offer congratulations to Ms Sutton on her achievements. Women still

represent only a small proportion of those registered in the trades, so the

Journeyperson Mentorship Program may help to change that. It is important to

note that according to government's own research, family responsibilities are

the primary reason why women do not complete their trades and get their Red

Seal.

This research shows that 28 per cent of women in Newfoundland and Labrador

quit their training for family reasons, compared to only 8 per cent of men.

Addressing the lack of affordable child care in this Province will help us to

see more successes like this one.

Again, congratulations.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the hon. the Member for St. John's South have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: No.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Municipal Affairs.

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, I rise today in this hon. House to provide an

update on our milestones and successes as we move forward with the Provincial

Solid Waste Management Strategy.

The strategy aims to reduce the amount of materials in provincial landfill

sites by 50 per cent and to encourage residents of Newfoundland and Labrador to

participate in waste diversion programs such as recycling and composting.

The strategy also aims to reduce the total number of waste disposal sites by

80 per cent, eliminate open burning of waste at disposal sites, and phase out

incinerators and unlined landfills.

Mr. Speaker, this is an ambitious strategy, but one that is necessary as we

look ahead to a greener future in this Province. We have achieved a number of

key milestones in recent months as we move along the process of full

implementation of our strategy. In fact, last year we saw the opening of the

Central Newfoundland Waste Management Facility at Norris Arm, which represented

a total investment of $64.6 million.

We also continue to work closely with our colleagues in the Department of

Environment and Conservation and the Multi-Materials Stewardship Board, who are

working towards some very important projects that complement this strategy.

Examples include the paint recycling program as well as the new illegal dumping

surveillance program, which will see municipal enforcement staff from the Town

of Conception Bay South training other municipal colleagues across the Province

to develop skills and programs to combat illegal dumping.

Mr. Speaker, approximately two-thirds of the Province's population is now

disposing of its waste in a lined landfill at either Norris Arm or Robin Hood

Bay. Close to 50 per cent of the Province's population also have access to

recycling facilities. Throughout the Province, a number of disposal sites have

been reduced, with over 140 dumps closed to date, which represents a 58 per cent

reduction.

Mr. Speaker, through those many successes, the provincial government

continues to promote a modern and environmentally sound approach to waste

management. My department will continue these efforts as they work towards full

implementation of the Provincial Solid Waste Management Strategy.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for the advance copy. It was a bit late, but thank you

in advance anyway for the copy. Protecting our environment is everybody's

concern in the Province and everybody in this Legislature, also. It is an

aggressive strategy, one that we all hope we can achieve.

Mr. Speaker, I visited the site at Norris Arm last year and it is a very nice

site, a very great site. Ed and the group are doing a great job on the site

itself. Waste management is something which recycling also is a big part of and

illegal dumping is a big part of it. I am just glad that the Bay of Islands was

the first area in the Province to actually put surveillance in for illegal

dumping, and we did it through Google. Back years and years ago, it was the

first one to start it. I am glad that illegal dumping is a big issue.

Mr. Speaker, in Labrador we still have work to do on the strategy in Labrador

for waste management. I have to speak about the West Coast strategy for waste

management.

One of the first things we have to do with the waste management, in my

opinion, is put someone in who is qualified to do the job. I just do not think

the defeated PC candidate appointed is good enough to do the job. I do not think

he is qualified to do the job. He is making decisions without consultation. That

is something that we must as a group, ensure that all of the communities are

informed

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. JOYCE: they are all being respected, and their opinions.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I would also like to thank the minister for the fifteen-minute advance notice

of the statement. A couple of things came to mind, Mr. Speaker, when I got the

notice. One of the big concerns, of course, is that we have tough Budget times

coming up. We know the government has made it an issue by pouring dollars into

some of these programs, but we worry. I get phone calls every day talking about

the worry about whether these programs are going to be able to continue under

the austerity measures that government is probably going to have to carry out.

So the question remains about the carrying on of some of these recycling

programs.

As well as that, municipal recycling programs, of course, need funding. A lot

of the calls I get also deal with municipal funding, and municipal funding, of

course, is an integral part of recycling in this Province, Mr. Speaker. A lot of

these municipalities need money for that. Municipalities are certainly looking

forward to hearing what that new funding arrangement is going to be in the next

Budget.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the Member for St. John's South have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: No leave.

MR. SPEAKER: Oral Questions.

Oral Questions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, senior bureaucrats at Nalcor have a similar bonus program to the one

just suspended by government. When I asked the Premier about this on Tuesday she

completely avoided the question, so I will try it again.

I ask the Premier again: Will you now direct Nalcor, a 100 per cent

government-owned corporation by the taxpayers of this Province, to immediately

suspend the bonus program?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

When we created Nalcor it was created in the image of Statoil and trying to

duplicate what had been done so successfully in Norway, Mr. Speaker. A lot of

our management component was based on that. Nalcor's bonuses I think were

published last year. They were put on the Web site.

One thing I can say to the member opposite, that the CEO of Nalcor, no matter

what bonus he may get, no matter what salary he may get, it is a good deal for

us, Mr. Speaker, and it is a good deal for the people of this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We are not talking about the individuals. What we are talking about is having

the salary details, the bonus details, making that readily available to the

people who are actually paying their wages. So, Mr. Speaker, we have asked to

suspend the programs.

Mr. Speaker, working for government means getting your paycheque from the

public purse. Management should expect that remuneration is a matter of public

record.

I ask the Premier: Since your government is often hiding behind Bill 29, not

releasing the salary and bonus details, will you immediately change and make the

salary details, including bonuses, available to the public?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Again, we have the Leader of the Opposition attacking the members of the

public service again today, like he did yesterday with the officials in the

Department of Finance.

Mr. Speaker, the deputy ministers in these departments have a very onerous

role. They work tremendous hours, Mr. Speaker, in trying to run their

departments and assist our government. Mr. Speaker, the salary estimates outline

what we pay out in salaries. During the Estimates process you can certainly ask,

but they also have a right to privacy.

Mr. Speaker, what we have is a situation where there were a couple of

individuals asked about yesterday, we released the details. They provided their

consent, but twenty-six to thirty people in the various aspects in government

are entitled to this bonus provision that was in place. That has been suspended,

Mr. Speaker. That is another step we are taking in line with as we prepare to

deliver the Budget with the hiring freeze, the suspension of hiring, Mr.

Speaker, the retirement incentive bonus. These are all steps we are taking to

try to address the fiscal situation of the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Mr. Speaker, I cannot believe the Minister of Finance really

has the gall to stand here today and talk about attacking public sector workers.

This government itself, in the last few weeks, has often talked about it. We

have seen it with EAS. We have seen it with a number of employees who are

looking at going out the door.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. BALL: Mr. Speaker, our choice, as you know, is to repeal Bill 29.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. BALL: This request to amend Bill 29 is only reasonable and necessary.

The public deserve accountability from this government. It does not need to be

studied to death; it is really common sense.

I ask the Premier: Will you bring forward this amendment immediately?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, this government is highly accountable, unlike our friends

opposite. Mr. Speaker, the Liberals introduced the ATIPP, the access to

information legislation in this House; they brought it here. We supported it,

voted for it, Mr. Speaker, but they did not proclaim it.

Mr. Speaker, it is do as I say, not as I do. They did not want anyone to know

the details of any of their transactions with regard to salaries, with regard to

the operation of this House of Assembly, or anything that went on within

government, Mr. Speaker.

We proclaimed the access to information act. This government is more open

than any government in the history of Newfoundland and Labrador, and we are darn

proud of it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Now that the Premier is willing to be open and transparent, will you amend

Bill 29? Just get up and tell the people of the Province: will you amend Bill

29?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, in the words of the commissioner himself, he has stated publicly

that there is no more restriction or less access to information by the general

public of Newfoundland and Labrador after Bill 29 than there was before Bill 29.

Certain individuals do have a right to privacy, Mr. Speaker, even though they

might work for the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador. It does not matter

who those individuals are. We all have a right to privacy. Bill 29 protects that

right.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: It is interesting to listen to the Premier's comments when just

this week the commissioner was saying: Come to me and I will help you go to

court. That is what you are suggesting that the people of this Province should

do to get the accountability that you are saying your government has.

Mr. Speaker, SNC-Lavalin was given a multi-million dollar contract on Muskrat

Falls by this government. Since then, the company has repeatedly been in the

news with allegations of improper payments, money laundering, and even

corruption. Today, they are in the news again. This time, alleging that senior

executives were hiding commission fees.

I ask the Premier: Since the latest scandal involves SNC's hydro power

division, have any of those people involved had anything to do with Muskrat

Falls that you are aware of?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: No, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the hon. Leader of the Opposition indicated that these were

matters of allegation, matters under investigation. There is a process that

takes place; there is a process of due diligence. We should not be impugning the

integrity of certain people, unless that process is completed before the courts.

In this Province, Mr. Speaker, whether you are in this House or in the

private sector out there, we expect people to obey our laws and we will enforce

our laws. We are not the government for Africa. We are not the government for

North Africa. We are the Government for Newfoundland and Labrador. We have laws

and we expect the people to obey those laws.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, the current allegations of hiding commission fees are against the

former SNC Executive VP, Patrick Lamarre, who resigned from the company in

January. Mr. Lamarre is quoted in a press release from the company announcing

their work at Muskrat Falls.

I ask the Premier: Now that you know that there is a direct connection

between the former SNC executive and the Muskrat Falls Project, what are you

doing to investigate this issue?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, there have been allegations of wrongdoing in

Africa, and the Attorney Generals in Africa will look after that. We will look

after what is going on in Newfoundland and Labrador.

With respect to that, the contract to SNC-Lavalin was properly awarded, as

are all engineering and procurement contracts in the development industry.

Nalcor retains full ownership, full oversight, decision making, and financial

authority over all contracts that are awarded. We will continue to monitor the

situation very closely on behalf of the people of Newfoundland and Labrador, as

we have done in the past and we will continue to do so.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

What I am hearing here is not about the individual, what I am hearing here is

about the location. So, you are saying it is okay for these executives to do

what they want in Africa and that does not apply to Newfoundland and Labrador.

Well, it should apply. It is about the individual, the executives, which we are

talking about.

Mr. Speaker, with such a serious allegation against SNC, the Premier needs to

be fully transparent of her government's involvement with this company.

I ask the Premier: How much money has Nalcor paid SNC to date, and will you

release the contracts Nalcor has signed with this company?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, there are legal matters going on in other

jurisdictions. The Leader of the Opposition is disgraceful in the way that he is

getting up and trying and convicting these people when the trial has not been

held yet. Are you the judge, the jury, and the executioner? It is shameful what

you are doing here.

There is a process that has to take place, and we are going to respect that

process in another country. In this country, anybody doing work for Nalcor is

overseen by Nalcor. They are overseen by the Government of Newfoundland and

Labrador. They report to us. We will monitor the situation closely, and we will

continue to do so.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, in a time when people are losing their jobs

to make up for this government's out-of-control spending, the Minister of

Advanced Education doles out a minister's salary to failed Tory candidate John

Noseworthy to determine how best to organize her department and deliver

services.

So I ask the minister: Is this not your job?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, the Department of Advanced Education and Skills was

formed following the last General Election in this Province. The department came

together, which was the former HRLE Department with the Labour Relations Agency

taken out, as well as a division of the former Department of Education, how that

stood.

Mr. Speaker, we could have operated the department as silos that came

together, but we wanted to make sure we looked at the business transactions, a

business transformation project, to ensure that this department was set up to

look at how best to help Newfoundlanders and Labradorians attach to the labour

market. We are at an unprecedented time in our history and in our economy where

people have opportunities. This new department was formed to make sure we could

maximize that; in doing so, everything in the department had to be transformed,

including how we do our business transactions.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, I guess this explains why you hired him four

months after you created the department.

It is now over thirty days since our Access to Information request for John

Noseworthy's report was acknowledged, meaning the minister responsible is

breaking the ATIPP Act. In the Tory 2003 Blue Book, they committed to releasing

every government-commissioned report within thirty days of receiving it.

So I ask the minister: Why are you delaying access to the report, and will

you Table it in the House?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, as I was saying, we are at a point in time in the

history of this Province where people have opportunity to participate in our

labour market like never before.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: We wanted this new department established so that people can

take advantage of that opportunity, Mr. Speaker. Whether we reviewed the

operations before, four months after, or into the future, it did not matter as

long as we made sure that as this department is set up, the services that it

offers serve the people of Newfoundland and Labrador who truly need those

services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: The minister has said the cuts in her department have

nothing to do with the report commissioned by her Tory friend.

I ask the minister: How can you make such excessive cuts, laying off so many

people, without first considering the $150,000 report?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, there are two separate processes going on in

government today and in the Department of Advanced Education and Skills. As I

just outlined, as a new department it is incumbent upon us to ensure that the

processes of that department work for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

In a very separate exercise, Mr. Speaker, this government was facing a fiscal

situation where they had to deal with a deficit. With or without having formed a

new department, the minister of either the former HRLE and Education or the

newly formed department would be responsible to do whatever was necessary to

streamline functions within that department to ensure that services were

maintained, but yet be able to live within the new fiscal situation we have in

this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, fish plants are dropping like fish flies all

over this Province, twelve in the last fifteen months. Last week, the fisheries

minister admitted that he has no answers for rural communities losing their fish

plants.

So I ask the minister of rural development: Now that you have cleaned out all

the RED Boards, what is your plan for rural communities, or is this resettlement

by neglect?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, the fishing industry is a very important part of

the economy in this Province. Our government has provided strong support to the

fishing industry in a number of ways, whether it is technology, engineering,

development, or marketing, and we have been there to support the workers in the

fishery.

In this particular case, Mr. Speaker, with plant closures, private business,

some eighty-five years in this Province, have recognized some challenges well

beyond anyone's control. In terms of global market competition, market forces,

and the challenges with the Canadian dollar very unfortunately, we have seen

some plant closures. As we have in the past, and will continue in the future, we

will support the communities, we will support the people who are impacted by

this closure, and we will do all we can to ensure communities are

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, nine years ago this government set up the Rural

Secretariat for economic development in this Province. Currently, there is a $2

million budget and sixteen people employed.

I ask the minister of rural development: What is your plan for economic

development in this Province because I tried to ask you before, and the other

minister answered or are we witnessing resettlement by neglect?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Business and Rural

Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, the plan is very similar to the plan since we

came in 2003. It is to build schools, build hospitals, build rural Newfoundland

and Labrador, and continue to build and invest billions of dollars in

infrastructure, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Now, in regards to the Rural Secretariat, it was not set

up as an economic delivery unit. It was set up to basically engage people in

rural Newfoundland and Labrador over a hundred volunteers all throughout

Newfoundland and Labrador, on the ground, leaders in the community, volunteers

who are dialoguing with government and telling us what we need to know in terms

of driving economic and social policy. Sometimes it is not what we want to hear,

but we need to hear it, we are hearing it, and we are using it to drive economic

and social development in Newfoundland and Labrador, and we are going to

continue to do it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MS JONES: Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, I asked questions on the Strait of

Belle Isle ferry contract. April 1 is fast approaching and now we hear the

Ionian Spirit may be another Orlova saga.

I ask the minister: Will you confirm that this vessel is tied up in legal

wrangling with its crew in the Port of Brindisi.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am glad I get a chance to talk about this very important tender because I

can tell you that the service to the people of Labrador, to Southern Labrador,

Northern Labrador and right around the entire Island of Newfoundland is very

important. The ferry services are very important to those people. We have good

relations with those people, Mr. Speaker, I say to you and I say to the House.

We consult with those people on a regular basis and we are doing that.

With this tender, we have to follow the process. Unlike the member opposite

here, who would like for us to run out and throw away the Public Tender Act,

would just want to throw it away, and sending out e-mails to people in their

district saying disregard the Public Tender Act and disregard process. We are

going to follow process, Mr. Speaker, because that is what this government is

built on. It is built on principle, it is built on process, and it is built on

following the law, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In all the talk about process, maybe the minister does not even know what the

wrangling is that is going on over there with regard to this ship because he is

certainly not telling us.

Mr. Speaker, the Public Tender Act is one thing. It is another thing when

government is contemplating giving a contract to a company that has a ship they

are intending to put on the service that is tied up in legal wrangling, Mr.

Speaker, for one thing; and secondly, that is not meeting Transport Canada's

requirements to be operational in this Province.

I ask the minister today we are only days away from wanting to have this

ferry back in operation. I ask the minister: What he is going to do to serve the

needs of the people in that region of the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I can tell you what we are not going to do. We are not going to

race out and buy another Nonia like they did over there. That is what we

are not going to do.

We are going to follow the process. We are going to get all the information,

because that is what we are required to do. We have

an act to follow, we have a

tender process that we have to follow, and we are going to do that.

Unlike the member opposite who can be out and advocating for the highest

bidder for her friend, the highest bidder instead of doing that, what we are

going to do, Mr. Speaker, is we are going to follow the process. We will get all

the information, we will properly assess all the information, and then we will

make our decision to move forward.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

On Monday, the Premier talked about

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS MICHAEL: phase one and phase two of her core mandate review.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Speaker has recognized the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Premier talked about phase one and phase two of her core mandate review

and the fact that these phases had been completed. She said that they had talked

about this plan last fall, but this plan must exist in the Premier's head, Mr.

Speaker, since we cannot find anything of substance in writing.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

This is Question Period. Important questions are being asked. I ask members

to respect those asking those questions, and provide time for the member to

respond.

I recognize the Leader of the Third Party, and ask her now to conclude her

question.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I ask the Premier: Will she please reveal the details

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Speaker is quite serious when he brings attention to the fact that there

is disorder in the House. I expect members to respect the direction of the

Chair, and I have already acknowledged the Leader of the Third Party to ask her

question. I ask members to listen in silence until she poses that question.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I ask the Premier: Will she please reveal the details of what exactly were

the two phases that she says have been finished?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

What this core mandate review involves is a review of each department, all

aspects of the department, the jobs that are done in the department, and the

programs that are offered by each department. It has gone through all sixteen

departments in government and some of the agencies, Mr. Speaker.

It is, basically, the deputy ministers are instructed to go along with their

assistant deputy minister right through their department to determine: Is there

anything here that we do not need to do any more? Is there duplication of

effort? Is there duplication of jobs? Are we spending money that we do not need

to spend?

Mr. Speaker, that is the process that has been ongoing. If she does not like

the term review core mandate, it is simply a review of the processes of each

department in the extent to ensure that there is efficient and effective

delivery of services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

That is the closest to a plan that I have heard an answer from the other

side. I am glad the Minister of Finance could give some kind of an answer to me,

but, Mr. Speaker, all of these plans do not seem to be on paper.

So I am wondering, since we cannot get these plans, if the Premier can tell

this House which phase in her plan includes steps to reach a stable revenue

stream for the Province so government can avoid creating another fiscal mess

like the current one that they have put us in.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I can tell her what my plan does not include. My plan does not

include shutting down development in Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: It does not include shutting down projects like

Muskrat Falls, Mr. Speaker. It does not mean going out and imploding a tax on

offshore agreements that have already been negotiated and settled. It is not a

plan against firming up our oil reserves in Western Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, this Province is in the best economic shape it has been since

Confederation, and that is due in large part to the work of this government. It

is something we are very proud of and something we are going to continue.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you.

The plan obviously involves spending billions of dollars on that project that

she is talking about billions of dollars belonging to the people of the

Province.

I have been asking the Premier about her many plans for the past few days of

this sitting of the House. She has repeatedly told me to wait for the Budget

when all will be revealed a mantra that is also being used by the Finance

Minister. This government has shown they cannot properly budget the dental

program that they announced a year ago, let alone give us a balanced budget.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier: How can she expect the people of this

Province to trust them on big-ticket economic issues when they cannot even

accurately assess a small program like the dental program?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, it all depends on what day of the week you tune in to the House

of Assembly to listen to what criticism is coming from the other side.

Routinely, we are criticized for all of our strategies, Mr. Speaker, like our

Poverty Reduction Strategy, which is lauded from one end of this country to the

other, to our rural development strategy, from our aquaculture strategy, for our

infrastructure strategy.

We have increased the revenue of this Province by billions of dollars, Mr.

Speaker. We have done negotiations around Hebron. We have strengthened the Vale

Inco contract.

Mr. Speaker, this is a great place to be, there are more opportunities in

this place than ever before, and that is due to this Progressive Conservative

government.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Premier has repeatedly talked about their ten-year plan to reduce the

debt. In actual fact, she has talked about it many times over the past month and

told us it exists; but, other than a few references to bringing down the per

capita debt to some undefined national average, we can find no plan.

Mr. Speaker, a very simple question: Could we please see this plan in

writing?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Now, Mr. Speaker, earlier in the week we heard from the Leader of the NDP

that she did not know that there was going to be a deficit in 2013-2014. She did

not know, Mr. Speaker, because she did not read the Budget documents. On page 12

of last year's Budget, there is a prediction of a $400 million deficit for

2013-2014.

Mr. Speaker, she continues her long history of not doing the proper research

when she comes to this House to ask questions. Last year, we talked about a

ten-year plan to reduce our debt. That was to take one-third of our surpluses

and apply to the debt applauded by our bond rating agent.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Mr. Speaker, closure of Bayview Collegiate would mean up

to 1.5 hours on a bus for students from L'Anse aux Meadows over a dead zone

highway. These students will pass by another K-6 school that is part of their

town, able to accommodate them. A reasonable decision one would have one K-9 or

K-12 school retained in the community.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister why he operates his department and a board

that he controls like a dictatorship, which ignores the voice of the people and

denies presentations at public meetings.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, I am starting to get at wit's end. I think many

of the staff are getting at wit's end with the questions that are coming from

the Member for The Straits and the Member for St. Barbe.

You see a news release that came out this morning that says that he has the

final say on the final decision absolutely false, Mr. Speaker. It is

absolutely false. I will not say that they are lying, but they are playing

politics. They are playing politics with a situation here. Consultations were

held and an investment of $18.4 million in a new state-of-the-art school that

offers an array of programs, through a consultation process. The board has made

their decision, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Mr. Speaker, the Western School District has said it

never develops an implementation plan in advance for closures. It downloads this

responsibility on local administrators, so no programming is in place. A 2008

document included the option of alternative busing being provided. Years later,

still no plan.

Well, Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Education: Why would Bayview

students trust the board for after-hour buses for extracurricular activities

when other communities like Ship Cove, Raleigh, Goose Bay and Great Brehat were

never offered such service?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Education.

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, the closure of a school is a very emotional

thing. We have said that on several occasions here.

Mr. Speaker, if you look at the results in the education system in this

Province, not too long ago Newfoundland and Labrador had the highest dropout

rate in Canada. Today, Mr. Speaker, we are the second highest in retaining

students. We have a 92 per cent graduation rate.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, our system is working.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Mr. Speaker, three years ago the Auditor General identified

significant problems with the escalating costs of the Protective Intervention

Program which places children in alternative living arrangements. He also

identified an increased risk of harm to children due to long stays and uncertain

standards of care. Last month, government finally released a Request for

Proposals for staff residential placement resources with a commitment to best

practices.

Why did this government drag its heels and wait three years to finally act on

this issue?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, let me first acknowledge that this government did

not wait three years to move on issues in the area of child protection. This

government started the new Department of Child, Youth and Family Services to

respond to some very serious issues that were pervasive within the system.

Systemic issues, Mr. Speaker.

I also want to indicate as we look at these issues and there were concerns

about the placement of children, part of the plan was to ensure that children

had the appropriate environments. Mr. Speaker, in November of this year and as

many people who are watching today or in this House of Assembly understand that

there is a campaign underway to attract and to be able to have new foster homes

in this Province. To date, it has been a very successful campaign and it will

continue because the health and safety of children and the protection

intervention services has always been a priority of this government, Mr.

Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The time for Question Period has expired.

During Question Period, while the Leader of the Official Opposition was

posing a question to the hon. Minister of Natural Resources, in his response I

call upon the Minister of Natural Resources to apologize for his unparliamentary

comment when he accused the Member for Humber Valley of being disgraceful.

I ask the member to apologize for his comment.

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, if I have attacked the

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, I apologize unreservedly.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MS JONES: Yes, Mr. Speaker, I am

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I am rising on a point of privilege. I am just

looking for the

section because I lost it while I was getting up.

Mr. Speaker I am raising on a point of privilege based on a comment that was

made by the Minister of Transportation and Works during Question Period. I asked

a very legitimate question on behalf of my constituents and other people in the

Province of Newfoundland and Labrador who use a ferry service in this Province.

I was carrying out my duties as an MHA and as a member of the Official

Opposition.

I expected, Mr. Speaker, a response from the minister that would be

appropriate of a Minister of the Crown. However, the minister in question went

on to make commentary about where I spend my time outside of this House of

Assembly, where I may have been, accusingly saying I was in a certain place on a

Saturday evening. Mr. Speaker, that only leads me to believe that the minister

in question, or someone within the government, is keeping tabs now on where

Opposition MHAs may be

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Hear, hear!

MS JONES: and implying impropriety on the part of the MHA.

Mr. Speaker, I know the member opposite, in his previous life, was an RNC

officer

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

There is a point of privilege being raised. Breaches of privilege in this

House are a serious matter and I would ask members to recognize the member who

is on her feet raising a point of privilege, which is important for all of us to

appreciate the significance of a point of privilege in this House.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I cannot say unequivocally that there has been

anybody following me. I do not know. I do not know if there are squad cars

driving past my house. I do not know.

What I do know, Mr. Speaker, is that the minister today made a statement

implying where I spent my time and in doing so indicated impropriety of some

sort on my part. In fact, Mr. Speaker, it was a breach of privacy because what I

do in my private life is of no concern to the minister or to other members in

the House of Assembly when being posed a question here.

I feel, Mr. Speaker, that the remarks of the minister were obstructive, they

were interfering, and they were intimidating, in causing me to carry out the

responsibilities of my constituents and that of my job as a member of the

Opposition office.

I would ask that the member, Mr. Speaker, would withdraw the comments and I

ask that he would apologize for making such references in the House of Assembly

in responding to a question in Question Period.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader, to the point of

privilege.

MR. KING: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I listened intently to the points made by the member opposite

and I would first urge you to consider checking Hansard as to exactly what was

said and what was not.

In considering a point of privilege, Mr. Speaker, I think the rules that

guide our Parliament here in the House of Assembly are very clear that a point

of privilege would be raised on a basis where a member's ability to perform his

or her functions as a member of this House has been some way blocked, inhibited,

or prohibited. I would suggest to you, Mr. Speaker, that has not happened.

Mr. Speaker, further to that, I do believe in raising the point of privilege

that the member opposite has called into question the integrity of the position

of the Minister of Transportation and Works in this House, and in a broader

context, the member has raised the question of whether this government as a

whole has engaged in some secretive service or other to be following the member

or doing something that many would consider untoward.

Mr. Speaker, I would suggest for your consideration that in raising the point

of privilege she may actually have brought on another point of privilege against

the government as a whole, and the Minister of Transportation and Works in

particular.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader, to the point of

privilege.

MS JONES: Yes, Mr. Speaker. While I appreciate the input that anyone

would like to have into this matter, I think it is very clear for the record

what the minister said; it could be heard all throughout the House of Assembly,

absolutely no doubt about that.

Any time, Mr. Speaker, that there is a commentary made on the floor of the

House in response to me doing my job asking a question that is referring to

something I may or may not do on a Saturday night in my personal life, in my

mind is an implication, it is intimidation, and it is done primarily to

influence how I do my job. I take extreme offence to that, Mr. Speaker. It does

affect my ability to do my job. I ask for a ruling on this particular issue,

because I do believe it is indeed a breach of privilege, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader, to the point of

privilege.

MR. KING: Yes, Mr. Speaker, and thank you.

With greatest respect to the point being raised, it is my role as Government

House Leader to argue the same points on behalf of the Government of

Newfoundland. I am not challenging or suggesting that there was anything

untoward or not with respect to how the member received what was said, but I do

believe, on behalf of the government, in my capacity as House Leader, that I

have a responsibility to argue the point.

On a point of privilege, I believe it is very clear that the matter of

privilege here was not violated. Whatever may or may not have been said or

intimated, there was no infringement on the ability of a member to carry out

their particular function. I would suggest, Mr. Speaker, as it is stated in the

House of Commons Procedure and Practice , that what we have here is no

doubt a disagreement between two members, but that is the extent to what we have

here.

MR. SPEAKER: The House will take a brief recess while the Speaker reviews

the tape of the proceedings that the member references. We will recall the House

when I have had a chance to listen to the tape.

Recess

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Speaker has had an opportunity to review the tape from the Question

Period today, and there is nothing in the tape that speaks to any valid point of

privilege. There is a lot of background noise, and there is a lot of chatter

that is obviously taking place, but it is not a part of the official proceedings

of the House, and I am unable to distinguish the individuals who may be

speaking. Nor am I able to distinguish the comments that are being made.

It does, I believe, and it is an important point, and it is timely to raise

it: one of the challenges we have in this House is recognizing that only those

individuals who have been recognized by the Chair are permitted to speak in the

House. During Question Period, for example, today, on several occasions we had

to stop proceedings because individuals who were not recognized were continuing

to contribute to the conversation.

When we are in Question Period or when we are in debate, if members in

addition to those who have been recognized by the Chair continue to make comment

and continue to contribute to the debate while not being recognized, they do

have an influence on what takes place on the floor of the House but it is not

captured in Hansard; it does not form a part of the official transcript, but

members, as they speak, react and respond to it.

The issue that we saw unfold here this afternoon that gave rise to the point

of order is a good example of what happens when members of the House do not

abide by the rules of the House, and very specifically that rule which states

that only those members who are recognized by the Chair can stand in their place

and speak, and address the Assembly. When they do that, all others are to remain

in silence and listen to the comments being made.

Whenever we have multiple people not recognized in the debate contributing to

the conversation, it tends to be personal and it tends to be emotional and

detracting from the main focus of the debate, and we end up with disorder in the

House.

Inasmuch as there is no point of privilege with the issue being raised by the

Opposition House Leader, there is a valuable lesson for all members in what we

witness unfolding.

I ask members to be guided by my comments.

Thank you.

Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.

Tabling of Documents.

Tabling of Documents

MR. SPEAKER: In accordance with

Section 19(5) (

a) of the House of

Assembly Accountability, Integrity and Administration Act, I hereby table

minutes of the House of Assembly Management Commission meeting held on December

4 and December 5, 2012.

Notices of Motion.

Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.

Petitions.

Petitions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS there has been an agreement between the Federation of Newfoundland

Nation Band; and

WHEREAS persons submitted applications with the required documents for

registration from the Band up to the application deadline of November 30, 2012;

and

WHEREAS the reported number of applications received by the Qalipu Mi'kmaq

First Nation Band are in excess of 100,000; and

WHEREAS the reported number of applicants now registered as members is

approximately 22,000; and

WHEREAS the agreement between the Federation of Newfoundland Indians and the

scheduled to end on March 31, 2013; and

WHEREAS the Qalipu Mi'kmaq First Nation Band Chief has requested but not

received an extension to the agreement to process the remaining applications;

and

WHEREAS to date there is no decision on how to deal with the remaining

applications.

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to work

provide a fair and equal review of all applications.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this is a very important social issue across a large part of our

Province, particularly more so in Western Newfoundland, all up through the

Northern Peninsula, and to a large number of people in my district.

Mr. Speaker, for many years these individuals have worked towards

recognition, recognition as native status, and over the course of time they have

put together a substantial body of evidence, information, genealogical records,

and historical data. It was a tremendous amount of work and many, many people

who are of native ancestry had no idea they even were of native ancestry until

they were advised of their eligibility for native status.

Based on the agreement between the Federation of Newfoundland Indians and the

Qalipu First Nation Band, there is a possibility to have this as a recognized

Band in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. In addition to recognizing

people's ancestry, their genealogical background, there are significant social

advantages to be obtained by people.

Indian status. Consequently, it is to the advantage of all residents of the

Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, including our government, to press this

matter and to ensure that whatever benefits should accrue to these residents

actually does accrue to them. This petition is on their behalf.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. John's Centre.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS ROGERS: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS with the passage of Bill 29, the Access to Information and Protection

of Privacy (Amendment) Act, the Government of Newfoundland has weakened

citizens' access to information and has reduced government transparency; and

WHEREAS the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador has moved towards greater

secrecy and less openness; and

WHEREAS the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador is breaking its own

commitment for greater transparency, accountability, and freedom of information,

which it said at one time was the hallmark of its government;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to repeal

the passage of Bill 29.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I am happy to stand in the House today to present this petition

on behalf of the citizens who have signed it. Again, one keeps wondering and I

have been presenting this petition for a number of months now. People are

asking: In whose interest was the amendment to Bill 29? In whose interest was

that? Is it in the best interest of the people of Newfoundland and Labrador?

When we see the great human outcry on behalf of the people, people are

wondering why, Mr. Speaker. Why the particular amendments that happened in Bill

29 that appear to so limit access to information, that appear to affect

government transparency, and that appear to make it even more difficult to get

information.

We have seen time again when people have asked for access to information,

documents coming back with sometimes not only some of the information blackened

out, but all of the information blackened out. Does this limit access to

information? One cannot wonder, perhaps it does. That is the perception. That is

the unfortunate perception that we have seen out in the public.

The people of Newfoundland and Labrador are not happy about this amendment.

They are not happy with what they perceive as their right to access to

information. What I think has happened here, particularly at the timing of

introducing this amendment, is that it has weakened the people's trust and

confidence in the government, which does not make for a healthy citizenship in

terms of their understanding of the democracy that is their right.

I again would urge the government to reconsider this

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

Your time has expired.

The Member for The Straits White Bay North.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament Assembly, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS the Western School District is considering a multi-year plan to close

Bayview Regional Collegiate at St. Lunaire Griquet in June 2013; and

WHEREAS it has been proven from students that have graduated from Bayview

Regional Collegiate, they have excelled in their studies to prepare them to move

ahead and achieve their career choices; and

WHEREAS teachers and staff at Bayview Regional Collegiate are qualified and

continue to provide a strong academic program with a full curriculum to all

students attending; and

WHEREAS Bayview Regional Collegiate has developed a playground, library,

drama club, Kids Eat Smart Lunch Program, school council, and other activities

with exceptional community support; and

WHERAS Bayview Regional Collegiate housed a K-12 school in the past with

200-plus students who have access to science labs, cafeteria, art room, computer

lab, gymnasium, and extra-curricular activities; and

WHEREAS the parents, business operators, social groups, concerned citizens,

and students of the Municipality of St. Lunaire Griquet request to rescind

this proposal;

Since Bayview Regional Collegiate has met and exceeded all aspects set forth

for a viable school, we, the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge

the government to ensure that the Western School District is provided with

sufficient funding to keep Bayview Regional Collegiate at St. Lunaire Griquet

open.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this petition is put forward by constituents in my district from

Straitsview, as well from Noddy Bay, Quirpon, and Griquet. These are students

that will have to travel quite a far distance with the closure of this school.

It is important to recognize that there are two schools in this community. One

can be closed; the other can easily house a K-12 school. It would be the common

sense solution, Mr. Speaker, in doing so.

If we look at the public accounts, the public accounts state that the

departments of government, as well as boards such as the health boards and the

school boards, are controlled by and accountable for government. Ultimately, we

recognize, Mr. Speaker, that there are a lot of small rural schools, K-9s,

K-12s, with less than a hundred students. This decision does not make sense.

There are going to be a lot of concerned parents all across Newfoundland and

Labrador in this situation where they are going to be worried, is the Badger

school next? Is there another school less because there is a school closer where

we can bus students an hour-and-a-half and get them there? This is going to be a

real problem.

Many members across this House, who sit on this side and the other side, are

very concerned about this situation. So, we need to work together. We need to

urge and work towards change here, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, a petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the

Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of

the undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS there is no cellphone service in the Towns of St. Pauls, Cow Head,

Sally's Cove or Trout River, all of which are enclave communities of Gros Morne

National Park; and

WHEREAS there is either very poor service or no cellphone service in most of

Gros Morne National Park; and

WHEREAS visitors to Gros Morne National Park, more than 100,000 annually,

expect to use cellphones when they visit the park; and

WHEREAS cellphone service is an important safety feature for numerous

travellers, hikers and others in the park; and

WHEREAS cellphone service is necessary to modern business development;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to partner

with the private sector to extend cellphone coverage throughout Gros Morne

National Park, and enclave communities within the park.

Mr. Speaker, one might wonder, how do people come to sign a petition such as

this? Clearly, it is a prayer to the House of Assembly to impress on government,

to urge government to partner with the private sector, as the petition says.

You can see that typically, this type of petition would be left at a local

business. I can see by reading the names, many of whom I know, primarily people

from Cow Head, some from St. Pauls, a few from Parson's Pond, Three Mile Rock,

even Norris Point. They would have been going through, would have read the

petition and felt they supported it and wanted to sign the petition.

Mr. Speaker, this type of service, cellphone service, is no longer seen as a

luxury. In many places in Canada, individuals are no longer using hard lines.

Their traditional telephone they have abandoned, because they do not see the

need to have a cellphone plus the hard line service. A cellphone is instant

Even today in your observations about using BlackBerrys, all members of the

House of Assembly are issued these. They are communication devices. The

BlackBerry also features the telephone, as well as being able to send e-mails.

All these people are asking for is the same type of communication. Members of

the House of Assembly feel that these taxpayers should pay for us to do our

business for them.

The House of Assembly should impress on the government the importance that

everybody would like to have cellphone service, and start moving forward maybe

with a feasibility study, maybe with discussion, maybe with a 3P partnership.

Clearly, something needs to be done and that is the reason for this petition.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS Tordon 101 contains the chemicals 2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid

(2,4-

D) and Picloram; and

WHEREAS the chemical Picloram is a known cancer causing carcinogen; and

WHEREAS the provincial government has banned the cosmetic use of the

pesticide 2,4-D; and

WHEREAS safer alternatives are available to the provincial government for

brush clearance such as manual labour, alternative competitive seating methods

and/or mechanical removal of brush; and

WHEREAS the provincial government is responsible for ensuring the safety and

well-being of its citizens;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to cease the use of chemicals covered under

its own cosmetic pesticide ban and begin using safer methods of brush clearance

that will not place its citizens in harms way.

And as in duty bound your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, we are still going on with this petition. This petition is from

some residents of St. John's, from down around the St. Phillips area as well as

to the West Coast; Benoit's Cove and the Corner Brook area, as well as Deer

Lake.

At this time of the year now we are looking at the snow starting to melt and

spring is coming upon us. It is that time of the year where we are going to have

to seriously look at how we are going to be using pesticides on our roadsides

again.

The options are there for competitive growing methods. The options are there

to keep people at work at the same time by using safe cutting methods, cutting

brush back mechanically. We know of course that every year this time of the year

the conversation continues as well with the type of pesticides whenever they get

into water supplies and knowing that they can do some serious harm to some

people, if not youth particularly.

Mr. Speaker, we do hope that government gives this the utmost consideration.

We know that it is going to be a tough Budget and we know that they are going to

have some austerity programming. Certainly we hope this programming is not going

to be affected, the roadside brush clearing programs, but at the same time we do

hope that government saves money on pesticides by cutting out the pesticide use

itself. That is one way for government to save themselves a few dollars if they

want to do it.

Mr. Speaker, again, it gives me some pleasure to present this as part of a

voice for the citizens of Newfoundland and Labrador who are concerned with

pesticide use in this Province.

Thank you very much.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

Before I call Orders of the Day, I want to provide a response to a point of

order that was raised on Monday, March 11. This point of order was raised by the

Leader of the Third Party who stood in her place after Question Period to state

that the Premier had used unparliamentary language in response to a question

posed by the Leader of the Third Party.

Any statements made during debate must be considered within the context in

which they were made and the manner and tone in which they were delivered. Any

term in isolation is not necessarily unparliamentary. As stated in O'Brien and

Bosc on page 618, "the Speaker must rule on the basis of the context in which

the language was used". Also, on page 619, "the Speaker takes into account the

tone, the manner and intention of the Member speaking".

Narrowly construing a word or a list of words as always being unparliamentary

would not serve to promote the debate of issues in the House of Assembly.

Members cannot be totally constrained by such a convention. Consequently, there

is no point of order; it is simply a heated exchange between two members.

Orders of the Day.

Orders of the Day

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I call from the Order Paper, number 2, Committee of Supply,

Resolution and Bill No. 62 Respecting the Granting of Interim Supply to Her

Majesty.

MR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded that the House do resolve

itself into Committee of the Whole and that I do now leave the Chair.

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

On motion, that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole, Mr.

Speaker left the Chair.

Committee of the Whole

CHAIR (Littlejohn): Order, please!

Prior to beginning debate, I have a ruling on a point of order, on March 14.

I wish to rule on a point of order that was raised on Monday of this week. The

point of order was raised by the Government House Leader, who stood in his place

during Committee of the Whole to state that the Member for St. John's North had

used unparliamentary language during debate.

As it has been stated by the Speaker of this House in an earlier ruling

today, any statements made during debate must be considered within the context

in which they are made and the manner and tone in which they are delivered.

Any term in isolation is not necessarily unparliamentary. As found in O'Brien

and Bosc on page 618, the Speaker must rule on the basis of the context in which

the language is used. On page 619, the Speaker takes into account the tone,

manner, and intention of the member speaking.

Again, as stated earlier today by the Speaker, narrowly construing a word or

a list of words as always being unparliamentary would not serve to promote

debate of issues in this House. Members cannot be totally constrained by such a

convention.

The Speaker of the House of Commons on December 19, 1980 said the

characteristics of parliamentary language are good temper and moderation.

Members must always conduct themselves reasonably during debate. Good temper and

moderation are of the greatest importance.

There is no point of order. Again, this was simply a heated exchange between

two hon. members in the course of debate.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

CHAIR: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for Kilbride.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DINN: Mr. Chair, I am glad to have an opportunity to have a few words

here today. I had missed an opportunity before Christmas to have my say and my

opinion on Muskrat Falls so I am going to start off just giving you my opinion

on the rationale that I use to explain to people about approving Muskrat Falls.

As you all know, it is no secret that I totally support Muskrat Falls, but I

can tell you this: I can justify building Muskrat Falls simply as a replacement

for Holyrood, and I will explain to you.

We all know that the Holyrood Generating Station produces electricity by

burning oil. This oil we do not get for nothing. Oil that we use at Holyrood has

to be bought at today's prices. Mr. Chair, when Muskrat Falls is used at full

capacity and there are days when it has to be it burns 18,000 barrels of oil

a day. At $100 a barrel, that is $1.8 million for one day's use.

AN HON. MEMBER: Holyrood, not Muskrat Falls.

MR. DINN: Oh, Holyrood I meant. I am sorry; I got the two of them mixed

up.

Anyway, Holyrood Generating Station has to have oil. As long as Holyrood

Generating Station is in use, it will burn oil. Unless someone comes up with

some harebrained scheme to convert it to wood burning or something like that.

AN HON. MEMBER: Clam shells.

MR. DINN: Or clam shells or something, yes.

Anyway, as it is now, as it exists, it burns oil. We do not get oil for

nothing. So what I am going to do, I am going state a number as a reference

point. In 2011 this is a known fact, now; this is not something coming out of

my head. This has been stated lots of times, and we have all had wheelbarrows

full of information about Muskrat Falls over the last two years. I have heard

all kinds of information about it; everybody else has. Here is a simple little

exercise, a simple little rationale that I use with people who I talk to about

Muskrat Falls.

In 2011, $135 million was spent for oil for Holyrood $135 million. Now,

this is money we are spending every year. This is not money that comes out of

the Budget, or we have to budget for. This is part of the operating costs for

Holyrood Generating Station.

Does everybody have a pen and paper there? Just take a pen now especially

the NDP people. Do me a little favour. I am not playing with your minds or

anything, or belittling you in any way, but just do this. Take $135 million and

multiply it by ten $135 million that was spent for oil for Holyrood in 2011

and times it by ten.

AN HON. MEMBER: You are not allowed to bring a calculator into the House.

MR. DINN: I know, but that is only not hard to do.

That will give you $1,350,000,000 for oil for Holyrood for ten years. Now,

take $135 million and multiply it by twenty and you will come up with

$2,700,000,000. Do the same

AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible).

MR. DINN: Okay, I will give you a bit of time. That is a two, a seven and

so many knots. Okay, do you have your homework done yet? We carry on with that

assignment. You can do the same for thirty years, forty years

AN HON. MEMBER: Thirty years?

MR. DINN: You do not have to. I said you can do it after, and do it for

fifty years. I will tell you this when you can work it out if you do not

believe my number, you can work it out yourself.

One hundred and thirty-five million dollars in 2011 was spent for oil. Times

it by fifty and you have $6.750 billion that would be spent for oil for Holyrood

in fifty years. Guess what? That is money we are going to spend anyway. That is

money in order to keep that facility producing electricity. That is based on

2011 prices. If the price of oil goes down, it will be a bit less; if it goes

up, it will be more.

What I am getting at is this: If we keep Holyrood going for fifty more years

burning oil, we will use $6 billion or $7 billion for oil. Guess what we have

when it is all over? Nothing. It is like someone deciding I am not going to buy

a car, but I am going to get a taxi for the rest of my life. I am going to spend

thirty years or forty years using taxis. When the time is up, you have nothing

to show for it.

AN HON. MEMBER: Greenhouse gases.

MR. DINN: That is right.

I am not even talking about the fact that Holyrood Generating Station is

going to need to have refurbishing. I am not talking about the operation and the

maintenance costs for that facility. I am not talking about anything else. Mr.

Chair, $6.75 billion will be spent for oil for Holyrood for fifty years and you

will have nothing to show for it. Folks, the money is going to be spent anyway.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DINN: Do not go saying that we are going to affect our debt; we are

going to affect our deficits. The fact of the matter is that money has to be

spent to keep that facility going because we need it.

AN HON. MEMBER: What is it going to do for the atmosphere?

MR. DINN: I will get to that.

I have had people come to me over the last number of months talking about

Muskrat Falls, people who did not think we should go ahead with it. I sat them

down with a piece of paper just like I asked you to do. I used those numbers,

and something said it is sensible. It is like taking an old car and you keep

pouring money into it. It does not make sense.

To say that we are going to affect our deficit or we are going to affect the

debt of this Province by building that, it is not true. We will have to borrow

in the beginning because it is an investment, but when it is all over it will be

paid for. You are going to pay for it anyway.

Build Muskrat Falls, replace Holyrood, and this Province will be one of the

greenest energy producing places on earth.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DINN: Granted, there could be a greater cost than what we are saying.

That can happen any time. No matter what project you do today, the estimated

cost can go up.

I have yet, in the last ten or twelve years, seen contract prices come in

lower. Although at one time they did, today they do not. They do not come in

lower. Do not forget, if it takes another $500 million or $1 billion, add ten

more years to it and that is going to be paid for.

So, to say this is a bad project is foolishness. I do not even consider

selling the energy. If we sell energy from that, that is gravy. It will be paid

for over time just on the cost of the oil that we will have to buy for Holyrood,

so it is a no-brainer. It is a good investment.

If I decide tomorrow to have an investment, I will say I am going to build

another house somewhere in the Goulds or anywhere. I will go and get a mortgage

for it. I pay for this. I will probably put two apartments in it, rent the two

apartments. I take some of the money that I take in as revenue and I pay my

mortgage bill. I can put the rest aside or part of the rest aside, and I have

money left. We are doing the same thing, only on a larger scale.

I had to have my say about Muskrat Falls. I have said it to people

individually. I firmly, firmly believe this is a good decision, without a doubt.

When the future comes we will have it as a revenue source. Remember, we are not

building a wagon train factory. We are going to be building a facility that is

going to produce electricity, a commodity that will be in demand.

Talking about need or anything else, some people say we do not need it. The

fact of the matter is we are using Holyrood now. Do we need Holyrood now? We do.

CHAIR: Order, please!

I have to remind the hon. member his time is up.

MR. DINN: That quick? I had another four pages to go.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, before I begin, I would like to take this opportunity this is

the first opportunity I have had to offer my condolences to the Member for

Lewisporte, and to commend him on his member's statement. It was certainly very

moving, and I can appreciate how difficult it must have been for him.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Chair, also to the Member for Cape St. Francis; I am

very sorry for their loss, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, I have had the opportunity to sit and listen to some of the

comments. I have been battling the flu over the last week, so it will impact.

On Interim Supply, Mr. Chair, there are a lot of issues out there. I would

like to focus a little bit, if I may, on essential services. I will get to some

of the others later.

I have heard a lot of comments on education and busing, but I would like to

bring up something that is totally new. I would ask the Minister of Education,

the Minister of Labrador Affairs, and the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs to pay

close attention, Mr. Chair. Regulations in our Province state that students who

live outside of 1.6 kilometres require busing. There are also regulations around

temperatures and weather conditions. Certainly, my district is no stranger to

that.

I would like to point out that in the community of Nain, which is a small

isolated community, it is growing. The community of Hopedale is growing. Mr.

Chair, right now the furthest house from the school in the community of Nain is

right around 1.6 kilometres.

Mr. Chair, when you are looking at extreme temperatures, I think on the North

Coast it is minus forty-five, or in Labrador it is minus forty-five. A student

does not have to stand and wait for a school bus at minus forty-five because it

is too cold. Well, in the community of Nain, Mr. Chair, if it is minus

forty-four a kindergarten student is obligated to walk to school under those

same conditions, a one degree difference. I have been approached by members of

the community of Nain to look at transportation. They follow the media, Mr.

Chair, they realize the situation.

I know in Upper Lake Melville this past winter, Mr. Chair, there were

conditions that were so cold that the buses failed to start. I understand it was

the same in some cases in Labrador West. Mr. Chair, some of these kindergarten

students are wearing substandard clothing. It is because of provincial

regulations that have not been adapted that they have to walk to school.

Mr. Chair, if you have a wind chill of minus 50 with a temperature of minus

30, and you are walking against the wind, it can get bitterly cold. Even in my

own young years growing up, many of us have frozen our face walking to school,

but it was normal; it was considered normal, but by the standards of this

Province, Mr. Chair, that is not normal. I think this is something that

certainly has to be looked at, because it is an essential service. It is one

that is offered throughout this Province. I know that there are issues with

schools closing and students having to be bused farther away, but as long as

they are 1.6 kilometres from a school, they do not have to walk.

So that is just one issue that I bring up, because it is new. Certainly, if

the commitment from this government on the education system is what they say it

is, then I look forward to this being taken into consideration and the standards

being applied to all parts of this Province.

I fully realize that we live in the North and we are probably a little bit

tougher when it comes to extreme temperatures, but, Mr. Chair, when it comes to

kindergarten and elementary students, we must set the standard for everybody and

we must make allowances. This is not to say that there should be extra cost

given. This is the simple fact that we have young kids walking over 1.5

kilometres to school, Mr. Chair, in dangerous temperatures. I am sure the

Minister for Labrador Affairs can well attest to it, because the temperatures in

Labrador West are similar.

Mr. Chair, having said that, I would like to move on in the little bit of

time I have to talk about the ferries. I realize the commitment that this

government has said they have made, Mr. Chair, but we have to face the cold,

hard facts, and that is that our ferry system is in total disarray. I heard my

hon. colleague the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair talking about a

timeline and no ferry in place yet.

Mr. Chair, two years ago the government across the way came up with a

wonderful plan to improve the services on the North Coast of Labrador, the

district which I represent. Now, what we have gone to since then is what we had

prior to two years ago, Mr. Chair; this government, in their plan to change it,

has brought us back to the same thing that was not good enough.

Mr. Chair, you cannot come out and tell me that the Northern Ranger

and the Astron are a salvation when two years ago the very government

across the way made plans to improve it. I will not go into the Dutch Runner ,

because that is a memory none of us ever want to ever experience again.

Mr. Chair, the Northern Ranger , she broke down last fall and left us

without a ferry. Mr. Chair, the thing is that there was not even a contingency

plan other than an airplane. Now, the Northern Ranger can take

seventy-five, eighty passengers; a twin otter can take eighteen passengers with

no luggage. It was not a replacement. There was no replacement vessel, Mr.

Chair.

In the last four or five years, Mr. Chair, the Northern Ranger , when

she comes in service, has been plagued with troubles. The reason for this, Mr.

Chair, is because anything that is mechanical up to a point serves well, but it

is like a car or a snowmobile or anything that gets old: it breaks down and will

continue to break down.

I was glad to hear the minister last year, Mr. Chair, point out that in 2016

they are hoping to have a roll-on/roll-off vessel that will service the needs of

the people.

If you look around this Province, Mr. Chair Fogo Island, Bell Island, The

Straits at every turn there is trouble with the ferries. This government over

the last ten years has had ample time and ample revenue to look at this problem

and certainly not to bring us to the level we are now.

Mr. Chair, I would just like to move on. I am very pushed for time. I would

like to talk a little bit about housing, Mr. Chair. Housing has always been an

issue in Labrador and I do not just mean Northern Labrador. We are starting to

see problems in Labrador West, and we have already heard all about it. Now we

are starting to hear of problems in Upper Lake Melville.

I would like to make reference to an ad that came out just recently. Mr.

Chair, I will just read it off very quickly. It advertised for a two-bedroom

apartment available to rent to contractors for $3,000 a month; $4,000 if you

want the cleaning done.

Mr. Chair, that level may be affordable for someone who is coming in and

working, let us say at the Muskrat Falls Project. Mr. Chair, it does nothing for

the residents of Happy Valley-Goose Bay. Some of them I have already been

they cannot afford the rent.

In the communities of Nain and Hopedale, it is an ongoing problem with

housing. I would like to thank the government for the third announcement on

affordable housing in the community of Hopedale, Mr. Chair. Just this fall was

the third announcement on the very same housing project. I am looking forward to

the fourth announcement.

In closing, I would just like to say, Mr. Chair, that I commemorate the

government for their involvement. The only thing, Mr. Chair, when announcements

are made in Northern Labrador, a lot of times it is bilateral agreements of

which the Province is a part of, and not delivery of programs and services on

the whole. We have three levels of government up there. We will take one-third,

one-third, one-third, Mr. Chair. We will take it any way we can.

Thank you.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Baie Verte Springdale.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. POLLARD: First of all, Mr. Chair, I would like to thank the people of

my district again, the Baie Verte Springdale district, for placing me here in

this House of Assembly. It is a real pleasure, a treat and a privilege to get up

on Interim Supply and have a few words to say. I also would like to thank the

ministers, my colleagues, and the Premier for their support and their mentorship

in the past three or four years or so since I have been here. It has been a

great team support, and I thank them so much for that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. POLLARD: On a more personal level, Mr. Chair, I hope I do not

embarrass her, but it is a privilege as well to serve under our Premier's sound,

solid leadership. I would like to speak about her unmatched capacity to not only

govern the Province but to reach on a one-on-one basis when an individual is

going through some heartache, or pain or whatever, something in life we all

get sick sometimes, and we need that tender word and we need that encouraging

word.

She has that capacity and that compassion to get from up here and get down on

my level or your level and say those caring words. It comes from a caring and

compassionate heart. I just had to say that, Mr. Chair, because I have seen that

in action on a number of occasions.

Mr. Chair, I have been listening all week intently to what is happening in

the House here. One thing that bubbled up through discussion, and what the

Opposition was trying to say, was that we have mismanaged the public funds

because we spent it on infrastructure. I would just like to dwell on that for a

moment, and I want to go back in 2003, or prior to 2003, just for a moment when

we were nearly bankrupt, not much money to pay our own way, sluggish economic

activity, decrepit, dilapidating, aging infrastructure, and pretty stagnant

economy activity. People were sort of depressed, with not much hope.

When we assumed governance in 2003, we put a plan in place and some of these

features of that plan were to reduce debt. I am happy to say, roughly, we

reduced it from $12 billion and took it down to $8 billion, with a $4 billion

reduction, over 35 per cent. That put funds in our coffers so that we could

invest in education, social programs, or health.

Another feature of that plan, Mr. Chair, was to reduce taxes, so much so that

about a half a billion dollars reduction, and that put money back in people's

pockets again and they had money to spend. Another feature, the third feature,

Mr. Chair, was an aggressive, robust infrastructure spending plan so we could

deal with the dilapidated infrastructure.

Mr. Chair, we were lauded and we were applauded by none other than the man of

the year and the Governor of Canada at the time, Mark Carney, so much so that he

said that other parts of the country would do well to follow Newfoundland and

Labrador's example. If you listen to Dr. Warren Jestin, Scotiabank's senior

vice-president and chief economist. It is the same thing. They lauded and

applauded our fiscal management.

Again, bond rating agencies, chief economists, and others, Standard & Poor's,

gave us a resounding A + on our report card. They endorsed us because

of our fiscal management. They are independent people. They are independent

agencies. They have nothing political at stake. They are people who know

finances. They are people who understand fiscal responsibility.

So, over the last nine or ten years, we did make great strides. We made

tremendous strides, outstanding gains, in fact. I am here to say, and proudly

say, that the last few years or so we did change the face of this Province

because of unprecedented spending in public infrastructure. We laid a

foundation. We spent an unprecedented $5 billion in infrastructure: roads,

bridges, ferries, schools, water and sewer projects, water bombers, long-term

care facilities, fire and emergency services, vehicles, whatever, and we can go

on. That had a positive impact upon our Province, Mr. Chair.

The point I am trying to get at, Mr. Chair I was listening intently all

week. I was totally shocked, appalled, and flabbergasted, I suppose, to hear

that the Opposition and the Third Party would say, or insinuate, or imply that:

well, that infrastructure spending was sort of frivolous, mismanagement, and a

waste of money. I thought roads, hospitals, schools, bridges, ferries, water

bombers what a legacy to leave behind. That is not a waste of money to my

mind, Mr. Chair.

Needless to say, I was totally shocked, appalled, and quite frankly dismayed.

I ask everybody a question, Mr. Chair: whose report will we believe? Will we

believe the report of the Opposition or will we believe the report of

outstanding experts like Mark Carney, chief economist, or what have you?

What they are also saying, then, is that if I could rely upon my district

for some examples over the last six or seven years, over $100 million that was

invested into the District of Bay Verte Springdale, for example, was all

frivolous, a waste of money. That is what they are saying.

Mr. Chair, under no circumstances I repeat, under no circumstances will I

apologize to the people of the Baie Verte Springdale district for spending

$16.7 million dollars on the state-of-the-art K-12 school in Baie Verte.

We attended the opening ceremony, Mr. Chair: the Premier, the Minister of

Education, the school board trustees, Nova Central School District Director,

Charlie McCormack, students, parents, and teachers about 600 people packed in

that gymnasium, beaming with pride. You tell me that is mismanagement. That is

not mismanagement. That is a wise, wise investment, Mr. Chair, of the public

funds.

Under no circumstances will I stand here today and apologize to the people of

Baie Verte Springdale District for investing millions I say millions in

road upgrades, asphalt, or pavement in places such as King's Point, Springdale,

Silverdale, Harry's Harbour, Jackson's Cove, Westport, Brent's Cove, Fleur de

Lys, La Scie Highway, or, yes, even $1 million on an upgrade for the gravel road

to get to Nipper's Harbour so that children, at least when they are traveling on

the school bus, get a good gravel road to go over $1 million on a gravel road.

How about this one, Mr. Chair; how about the $6 million Springdale received

in the past few years for municipal capital works? Is that frivolous spending?

How about the $2 million we have put aside for a municipal complex for Baie

Verte; is that frivolous spending, Mr. Chair? How about the $500,000 that was

committed to the Green Bay Health Care facility, and more to come would that

be frivolous spending, Mr. Chair, on health care? Other examples: two brand-new

ferries, the Grace Sparkes and Hazel McIssac is that

mismanagement? Is that frivolous spending, Mr. Chair? I guess not not at all.

How about the free textbooks and the student aid packages? We can go on and

on, Mr. Chair. We are going to continue to support economic growth and create

jobs through investments in infrastructure. We are not going to stop because

they said so. We have a glowing report card, Mr. Chair. We will continue to

improve access to vital health care services. We will continue to invest in

education. For example, nine brand-new schools since 2004; is that frivolous

spending? Is that mismanagement of public funds? I guess not, Mr. Chair.

We are going to continue to make responsible investments for a sustainable

future. We will continue to support apprentices and foster a thriving skilled

labour force, Mr. Chair. We will continue to fuel business and economic growth

through innovation and a progressive tax regime. We will continue to invest in

strong social programs such as the Poverty Reduction Strategy, which was a model

right across this great nation of ours.

Because of these investments, Mr. Chair, we have become masters of our own

destiny. We are standing on our own two feet. We are paying our own way. In

fact, just listen to this, Mr. Chair: 80 per cent of total revenues are now

being generated from provincial sources; back in 2002, it was the other way

around, Mr. Chair.

We will stay the course so we can have a sustainable, bright, secure future

for years to come.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would like to take this opportunity before I get started to extend my

condolences to the Member for Lewisporte and to congratulate him on his

courageousness, and also to the Member for the District of Cape St. Francis on

the loss of his father.

Last night, Mr. Chair, I had the good pleasure of being with my constituents

at Kelly's Brook Apartments, and we had quite a time. We had the St. Pat's

Dancers and the Buccaneers and a lot of St. Patrick's Day entertainment. It is a

privilege for me to represent the District of St. John's North, which is more or

less just across the road from the Confederation Building. I have a great

privilege in being able to participate in district events because I reside

within the city and it is close proximity to me.

Having said that, Mr. Chair, I want to pick up where I left off the last time

I was speaking in debate on this motion. Of course, as we heard quite correctly

yesterday from the Member for the District of Bay of Islands, everyone from

esteemed MUN economist Dr. Wade Locke, to former Auditor General Mr. Noseworthy,

to the former Minister of Finance, to the Premier herself, everyone is in

agreement that this government has spent the funds, the revenues that have come

in recent years in an unsustained manner. This fiscal mismanagement and the

absence of any clear plan whatsoever has put us in the situation that we are in

today.

We do hear occasionally that there are plans, like the secret John Noseworthy

review of the Department of Advanced Education and Skills, like the secret $5

billion infrastructure strategy. Those documents have not come to light. So

neither the public nor members of the Opposition parties have any opportunity to

really scrutinize any plan because it is certainly not apparent that this

government has one.

It is unfortunate, Mr. Chair, because this is truly a situation in our

history where we have a government that is on the ropes, a government that is on

the ropes and in a state of disarray. I will give you an example, Mr. Chair, and

everybody who is listening will be acutely interested in this. Sometimes things

happen and you are not fully able to comprehend the gravity of the situation

because you are not as privileged as members of the House of Assembly are in

receiving information.

Just after 5:00 o'clock yesterday evening the Department of Justice, the

Minister Responsible for Labour Relations Agency, sent out a press release

basically bashing the Leader of the New Democratic Party for our position on

Muskrat Falls. Then before the hour was out, Mr. Chair, there was another press

release with the math corrected in it. I thought to myself, that gigantic gag

calculator I used to see across the way there that used to be brandished by

members across the way of course, that is gone.

MR. MURPHY: That is gone now, with the cutbacks.

MR. KIRBY: No, no, that is not where it is gone. That is gone because Dr.

Wade Locke has borrowed that, I think, to try and calculate the equally massive

deficit that we have and to try to figure out a way to use a proper

multiplication to dig us out of the hole that we have been burrowed down into.

Hopefully, Dr. Wade Locke, when he gets it all figured out he can give the

gigantic gag calculator back to the government so that at least the Minister

Responsible for the Labour Relations Agency can do the proper times tables.

I have to say, the Member for Kilbride should have been around 5:00 o'clock

yesterday to try to get some of that math straight. Hopefully, the Minister

Responsible for the Labour Relations Agency was watching, was paying attention

to the member when he was speaking and wrote down some of that arithmetic that

the member over there clearly understands better than the minister does.

I just want to go on to talk a little bit about this situation where we have

gone from our have status to what I would refer to as had status in the Dominion

of Canada. One of the things, of course, that we have heard a lot about, and I

am certainly hearing a lot about from constituents and from people who contact

my office, is the cuts to Employment Assistance Services Providers.

I know that the Y Enterprise, the Northeast Avalon YMCA Employment Enterprise

Services, they have lost twenty positions. Twenty people lost their jobs in one

fell swoop. Then there are five community centres around the City of St. John's,

including the Rabbittown Community Centre, that have also lost jobs; five of

them. That is twenty-five jobs gone there.

I have to say, the Minister Responsible for Newfoundland and Labrador Housing

Corporation was down in my district, down with Harper's new senator I cannot

remember the gentleman's name. I think he was an assistant to Mr. Wells. Yes,

the new senator was an assistant I believe, to Mr. Hearn, is it?

AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible).

MR. KIRBY: You have to say, anybody who has done service to Stephen

Harper is certainly making out quite well, I have to say, right. Of course, for

the rest of the people in the Province it is not so bright.

The minister was down in my district, down in the Rabbittown Community

Centre, just a week before these cuts, so you would think he would have had the

courtesy to inform the executive director there, and the young woman who is

going to lose her job now at the end of the June, that this was coming down. I

would say maybe the minister might want to do a little bit of advance the next

time before he goes down to Rabbittown Community Centre.

One of the things about this is these community centres serve hard-to-serve

populations, people who have chronic employment issues, and people who have

difficulty, once they get employment, maintaining that employment and keeping a

job. They have relationships with people in the community. People know people

who have low literacy skills through no fault of their own and people who have

limited computer skills through no fault of their own that they can go,

approach these people, and get the sort of help they need to get a job and keep

a job. That is all going to go away now and that is really unfortunate.

People with substance abuse problems, people with mental health issues, and

people with complex issues these agencies all across the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador were uniquely staffed to provide services to a diverse

group of job seekers in the Province. Unfortunately now that is all going to go

away. I think it is very unfortunate.

I just wanted to point out that I have received quite a number of letters,

e-mails, and phone calls about this. Somebody contacted me just on Wednesday and

personally this person said: I fear the direction that the Government of

Newfoundland and Labrador has taken. This person said they feel the direction

this government is going in is a detriment to Newfoundland and Labrador as a

whole. That is what this person says. I will not identify them. It would be

unparliamentary.

Another person said to me and this is a town in rural Newfoundland; someone

from the town e-mailed me and said: We believe this decision will have a

devastating, negative impact on the Province, particularly rural areas of

Newfoundland and Labrador. This Province has many small municipalities with

populations of less than 1,000 and less than 500, many communities of that size.

These small communities do not have the resources to hire the necessary

expertise to assist with career development and job-searching skills. This is a

letter from somebody who works for a town in rural Newfoundland.

I have to say, I could go on; I could go on and on because I have received so

much correspondence about this. The only thing that comes close to the amount of

correspondence that I have had from people all across this Province on the

closure of these Employment Assistance Services providers is last fall when the

Eastern School District was proposing to shut down schools.

Of course, we know now that they did succeed in closing Whitbourne

Elementary, or at least they are hoping they are going to succeed in that and

they also are planning to shut down Epiphany as well. That was the only time

since I have been a member of this House of Assembly that I have seen the sort

of public outcry that I have seen in the last two weeks.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Bonavista North.

AN HON. MEMBER: South.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Bonavista South.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: Bonavista South it is, Mr. Chair, and thank you very much for

giving me the opportunity to speak in this hon. House today.

I would like to take this opportunity as well to thank the constituents from

the beautiful District of Bonavista South for giving me the opportunity to be

your voice in this great House of Assembly that I am in today.

After listening to some of the comments across the way from the Third Party,

I have to disagree with some comments; unlike the comments made from the Member

for St. John's North the doom and gloom and all of the negativity we are a

government who definitely practice and certainly put the positive out there and

continue to make this Province grow in every part of this beautiful Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador.

If you happen to take time to come to the beautiful District of Bonavista

South, you would see first hand that rural Newfoundland is not dying. Rural

Newfoundland is growing a wonderful tourism industry; people are working

together. We have all kinds of development people who are out there working hand

in hand with community councils, the local service districts, working with this

government.

People of the world come to this beautiful Province and love to come back

again and visit Newfoundland and Labrador, and it is all because of the type of

people we are. I intend, every opportunity that I get a chance to speak, to

speak about the positive and how this government is working on behalf of the

people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: We definitely take a balanced approach. We have to pay off

the deficit. We have to deal with the debt. We have to deal with where we are

going in the future and we as a Province have a plan, a vision, and it is

highlighted. It has been highlighted and it is sustainable.

Muskrat Falls Project I have no problem standing in this House today

supporting that project. I will continue to support it. It is a wonderful

investment for the future of our children and their children, Mr. Chair.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: As I speak about the project, Muskrat Falls, without a plan

for the future, when the oil developments dry up and some of our mineral

resources dry up, we have to invest in projects like Muskrat Falls, a major

project that is very renewable, takes us into the future and is certainly going

to help pay for some of our infrastructure forever that our Opposition and our

Third Party continuously talks about.

Talking about the negativity: Where is the money going to come from for the

future to spend on different projects and so forth? I hear the Opposition and I

hear, in particular, the Third Party talking about spend, spend, and spend. I

hear it time after time, but we take a balanced approach, Mr. Chair. I have no

problem in saying that and I have no problem in backing up this government in

relation to the initiatives that we put forward. Also, I have no problem in

relation to the Minister of Finance when he puts forward a plan to take care of

our budgetary problems.

We definitely will, on this side of the House, work together in a positive

manner to make sure that the future of this Province is kept intact so our

children and their children can have a very positive future as well.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: I can back up with fact what we are doing. Look at how we

treated our public employees. I used to be a public employee and look how the

last round of negotiations went: eight, four, four, four; $500 million

AN HON. MEMBER: A year.

MR. LITTLE: a year, a half a billion dollars a year increase.

Listen, this government recognizes the importance of our public employees. We

appreciate and value the work that our public employees do, on this side of the

House, Mr. Chair, and we will continue to do that.

We, as a government, have proven with a strong track record that we will be

good fiscal managers of this Province in the past, today, and in the future

because we do have a vision. Right now, we are in a transition. We are in a

little bit of a transition. I can tell you right now that the future is going to

be bright, prosperous, and it is going to be bright and prosperous because of

what this Province has planned for the future, Mr. Chair. We are going to

continue on as a good, fiscal management government and that is what we are.

I would definitely like to take the opportunity to commend the minister who

represents Gander. He definitely puts infrastructure right throughout this

Province, funding, to help the towns, to help communities in Newfoundland and

Labrador and, in particular, rural parts of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: Also, when it comes to the Minister of Fisheries, as far as I

am concerned he is very involved in what is happening out there. We are all

concerned about the future of the fishery. A big part of my district is in the

fishery. It is still the number one place where job opportunities are occurring

and so forth.

I have been in consultation talks with the minister on numerous occasions

talking about the future of the fishery. I would like for some of the Opposition

to come out to the District of Bonavista South and look how vibrant things are

happening in the fishery out there today.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: In light of the negativity that comes from the Opposition, I

will tell you one thing: Come to the Town of Bonavista where a regional plant

is, where OCI, Ocean Choice International, is investing millions of dollars into

the future of the fishery creating employment actually created employment

there last year, 100-plus jobs. I can tell you right now that is positive. We

are working with different companies, different groups, and making sure that our

economy continues to grow in rural Newfoundland and Labrador, Mr. Chair.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: If you look at some of the comments made about reckless

spending, fiscal mismanagement, it is all coming from the Opposition, the Third

Party. As far as I am concerned, it is utterly ridiculous in my opinion. It is

unfounded, there are no facts, and it is just comments.

We are not going to take this serious. We are going to continue on the road

we are on; the road to prosperity is where we are going. We are going to show

the people of this Province that we are good leaders and we are going to

continue to be good leaders on their behalf.

We do have a vision; we do have a long-term plan. We do have a strategy, and

the strategy is outlined. It is not hidden; it is there for everybody to see. I

can guarantee you one thing that this government on this side will continue to

make this Province grow.

There are all kinds of development. If you look at Labrador West where some

of the people from my district go to work and you look at Bull Arm, some of the

sites in Long Harbour and so forth. I have people from my district every other

day helping these major projects. I am sure some of the people in my district

will work on the Muskrat Falls Project, which is a major development that is

going to occur. I will tell you this is very beneficial, not only to St. John's,

the capital city, this is very beneficial for all the Province, and in

particular rural Newfoundland and Labrador.

My son is a university student, and I am proud. He will be graduating within

a short time. The tuition fees that helped me out as a family member and my son,

and is going to give everybody else opportunities, are the lowest tuition fees

in the country. This government has made that happen, Mr. Chair.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: This government certainly is looking at other init

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