• Proceedings of the House of Assembly During the First Session of the Thirtieth General Assembly of Newfoundland l'RINTED IN CANADA BY GUAl'll)IAN LIMITIII), 8T, JOHN ' 8, Nl"LD.

PROCEEDINGS of the FIRST SESSION of the THIRTIETH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NEWFOUNDLAND WEDNESDAY, March 12, 1952. T'he House met a:t ,three of the clock in the afternoon, pursuant ito adjournment. HON. J R. SMALLWOOD (Prime Minister) : May it please Your Hon­ our, the House of Assembly, agreeable to Your Honour's Command, has pro­ ceeded to ,the selection of a Speaker and has elected Mr. Sparkes, -the Mem­ ber for the District of St. Barbe to that office and by •their direction I present him for the approbation of Your Honour.

HIS HO OUR : l assure you, Sfr, on behalf of Hei· Majesty of my high opinion of your sufficiency and fitness for the office of Speaker and on be­ half of Her Majesty gladly confer my approval of you as Speaker, of -this General Assembly. MR.

SPEAKER : Your Honour's ready approval of <the choice with which I •have been honoured by the House having constl,tuted me in due form ,the Speaker of <the House of Assembly it •has now 'become my duty in ,the name of the representatives of Her Majesty's loyal subjects, the people of •this Province, and respectfully to claim ·to Your Honour their accus­ tomed rigbts and privileges and that they shall have freedom of speech in their debates that <they may •be free from ansest during their auendance 'in Parliament and •that I, as Speaker, may have full access to Your Honour's presence and ,that they have confirmed to them all -their ancient rights and privileges which have been confirmed to them by Your Honour's predeces­ sors.

HIS HONOUR: On behalf of Her Majesty I do confirm this House in the enjoyment of all its ancient and undoubted rights and privileges. His Honour was •then pleased to open -the Session with a Speech from rhe Throne as follows : MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: 'I'he General Assembly which was dissolved in November was the last during ,the reign of His Majesty King George VI. A great King has gone out into the darkness and put his hand into the Hand of God.

He has laid down ·the immense burden of sceptre and crown which he bore so long, so uncomplainingly, and so well; he has relinquished at last the cares and responsibilities which fate had thrust into 'his unprepared ·hands but which he accepted as a divinely committed heritage and carried out with inesti­ mable courage. Now he lives at peace among his royal forebears at Windsor; and the sorrowing nations of the Commonwealth, realizing only in their

4 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS loss the true stature of his greatness, remember him fondly as "George rhe Good." The Imperial mantle which •he so bravely wore has fallen upon the slender shoulders of his young daught­ er. Shaken with grief at the sudden loss of a beloved father, she was at ,the time called upon to •take up his duties. The drapes of mourning were a momenL pa1·,ted for the glittering panoply of Lh.e Accession Ceremony and the Prodamation as Queen, Head of the Cornmonweallih and Defe.ndcr of the Faith of the High and Mighty Princess Elizabeth, now by -the Grace of God Queen Elizabeth II.

To Her Majesty the Queen, the recollection of whose v isi.t is still warm, d1is Lcgihlaturc records ·rts un­ swerving loyalty and deep and iucere devotion. God save the Queen I We pray that God may bless her and her Royal Consort, and the Natfons and Peoples over ·whom she reigns; and grant her and to them prosperity, pro­ gress and peace-such is the prayer of this Oldest Colony for its new Queen. Following closely after the dissolu­ tion of the Twenty-Ninth General Assembly last Autumn a General Election was held in the Province.

My Government sought from file people a fresh mandate for their policy of economic development, ai~d ,this man ­ date the people gave with nn unmis­ takable majority of their votes. My Ministers are determined to press for­ ward resolutely with ,this policy, and you will be asked 'lo ratify several pieces of legislation ,to give fur,ther effect to it. The present year promises to be the most prosperous in all our history, even more prosperous than 1951. More people will be employed for more ,wages than in any year be­ fore.

The prices paid ,to our fisher- men for salt-dried codfish will be better, from present indications, than those paid last year. Several new in­ dustries will get into full production, while others will commence and com­ plete construction. The great new machinery plant at the Octagon, in -the District of Harbour Main-Bell Island, will not only be constructed in 1952, but will get far ahead in its production programme. You will, I feel snre, be pleased to learn •that this pa1ticular plant has a fair chance of obtaining defence orders.

The year 1952 is ,to see the greatest drive for mineral development ever experienced in this Province, More geological and ,prospecting parties will search for minerals, more men will be employed at •this work, and more money will •be spent 011 iL than in any quarter of a century before. The year 1952 will in •these respects exceed even last year, which itself established new records in Newfoundland.

Information presently at hand from Exploration and Mining Companies indica-tes t.hat during •the forthcoming season not fewer than 300 men will be employed in various forms of field exploration of our mineral resources, and rhat two and a half million dol­ lars will be spent -in ·these investi­ gations. These men will work in ap­ proxima ,tely one hundred geological, geop·ltysical and prospecting rparties for eight different companies.

In additio-n to these efforts ·by priv­ ate interests, ,the Government of New­ foundland are continuing their polir.y of securing basic information on the geology and mineral resources of New­ foundland and Labrador, and plan ,to expand substantially •their activities in this direction, justifying this policy by the fact ,that the data obtained by Government in the past, are in no

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 5 small degree responsible for .the in­ creasing interest now being shown by private capital. The great iron ore development of Labrador proceeds with more acceler­ ation than ever. More than fifty mil­ lion dollars will he expended this year in the remarka ,ble drive ,to reach by railway ·the vast deposits of :high grade iron ore in Central Labrador and ad­ joining Quebec. Newfoundlanders in many hundreds played a very valuable

part in •this project last year, and will do so in even greater numbers ·this year. It is •the intention of the pro­ moters, by intensiEication of their drive, •to commence ·the shipment and sale of ore by the year after next. My Government have profound faivh in the mineral possibilities and pros­ pects of this Province, and will renew and intensify their efforts •to speed development in this branch of our Natural Resources. As part of ,these intensified efforts my Ministers have adopted a policy of abolishing the De­ partment of Natural Resources and crea,ting a Department of Mines and Resources in i:ts place.

Legislation to give effect to this Policy will be laid before you at the present Session. My Government have been instru­ mental in securing the interest of a prominent United States Financier, in the Oil possibilities of our West Coast. Mr. John Fox is carrying out a vigor­ ous campaign of exploration and drilling, and in his efforts :he will be followed by the lively i:nteres-ts of all our people.

Already :his activities in Newfoundland ·have attracted the attention of others interested in oil, and i.t is a safe prediction that his success in Newfoundland will touch off a,t least a minor boom in oil ex­ ploration in ,this Province. I am con­ fident that you will s·hare my M-inis- ters' hope for Mr. Fox's success in the months immediately ahead. Pursuant •to legislation enacted last year my Ministers proceeded with the organization of Newfoundland and Labrador Corporation. The first meet­ ing of the shareholders was held in St.

John's in the month of December pas-t, when the directors were elected and preliminary discussions 'held on the Corporation's programme. Several distinguished Canadians and Americans have accepted Directorship under the chairmanship of Sir William Stephen­ son, and my Ministers are confident that important developments will occur in Newfoundland and Labrador as a result of Corporation efforts. The Board of Directors will gather in St. John's after ·this present month for their second meeting.

My Government have retained t•he services of the well-known firm of Coverdale and Colpitts, consulting in­ dustrial engineers, to examine into the repor ,t upon ,the value and pros­ pects of :the rhree industrial plants established ·by the expenditure of pub­ lic fonds. These are ·the birch, cement and gypsum enterprises. The report of these engineers is expected •to be received ,toward ,the end of ,this month. It has been and is my Govemment's policy to dispose of .~hese three plants by sale, and legislation affecting such a sale will be laid before you at the present session.

An ,amount of over nine million dollars of •the Cash Sur­ plus has ,been spent -to esta·blish these plants and provide working capital for -them and thei!r sale would have the effect of restoring this sum to the Sur­ plus. It is the policy of my Minis-ters to employ the money s-o recovered mainly in fur-ther economic develop­ ment, -though not necessarily in the same manner.

6 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS More than a year ago the Govern­ ment of Newfoundland and -the Gov­ ernment of Canada joined in the crea-tion of a body krrown as the Fisheries Development Committee. This Committee, under ,the Chairman­ ship of Sir Albert Walsh, is made up of representatives of two Governments as well as the fishermen and mercantile firms engaged in the fisheries. They have been served by a corps of able technologists and economists, and since the investigation began considerable work has ·been accomplished.

The Commi-ttee are presently engaged upon the preparation of ·their report and recommendations to the .two Govern• ments, and my Ministers are awaiting these with great interest. l,t is my Ministers' hope that the report of the Fisheries Development Committee will constitute a foundation for sound and progressive fishery development policy for ·this Province.

My Government 'have lately appoint­ ed Mr James Thompson of Montreal, to be their financial advisor for the purpose of assisting in ,the preparation of NPwfounrlfanrl'.~ r~sP for the Royal Commission that is to be appointed, under the Terms of Union within eight ·years from the date of Union to review .this Province's financial pos1t1on. During the next few years, Mr. Thompson will collect and com­ pile data for Newfoundland's use be­ fore -rhat Royal Commission, for my Ministers are convinced that :the Pro­ vince must be adequately prepared for that important review of Newfound­ land's financial position. Mr.

Speaker and Members of the Honourable House of Assembly, the financial position of ,the Province con­ tinues -to •be sound, and my Ministers are confident that its soundness will be maintained and even improved. Full details will be laid -before you in the Budget Speech and Estimates later in the Session. I request you to provide Supply to Her Majesty. I congratulate all Honourable Mem­ bers upon their election to this Thirtieth General Assembly, and I in­ voke God's blessing upon your labours. MR.

SPEAKER : I have to inform the House that at three of -rhe clock ,this afterno 'on His Honour -the Ad­ ministrator was pleased to open this Thirtieth Session of ·the General Assembly of Newfoundland. His Hon­ our the Administrator delivered the Speech from the Throne which for purposes of accuracy I have obtained a copy and will read to the House. HON. L. R. CURTIS (Attorney General) : ~.,:fr. Speaker, before con­ sidering ,the Speech from t'he Throne, I would move that a Hill, enti-tled "A Bill to Amend the Newfoundland and Labrador Cor.poration Limited, Act, 1951," be read a first time.

Moved and seconded read a first time, ordered read a second ·time on tomorrow. MR. SPEAKER : New members to be introduc ed. MR. P. J. CASHIN (Leader of ·the Opposition) : Mr. Speaker, it gives me pleasure -to introduce to members of the House, Mr. Jackman, eleoted mem­ ber for the District of Harbour Main­ Bell Island. When we were sworn in yesterday afternoon, Mr. Jackman was unavoidably absent-Mr. Jackman- MR. SPEAKER : The honourable member may take his seat. MR. RROWN : Mr . Speaker, I rise to move that a Commit-tee of this House be appointed •to draf.t an ad­ dress in reply to the Speech from rhe

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 7 T,hrone. In so doing it is my very pleasant duty to congratulate you, Sir, upon your re-election as Speaker of this House. The pre sent session will be Your Honour's fifth so that we may safely describe you as a vet­ eran in your exalted office. You, Sir, are ,the embodiment of rules and regulations of the House. These rules and regulations and laws were made by the House hself and yours is the great responsibility of enforcing them.

When ,therefore you enforce them strictly and impartially without fear, favour or affection you are entitled to the mmplete and entire support of the House for in defying your enforcement of ,the House's rules a member is defy• ing the House itself. In Your Honour is vested the keeping of the honour of this House, the keeping of its honour and the preservation of its great democratic principles of orderly pro • cedure. 1f the peopl e lo ·e respect for this House it will come only because Your Honour allows membe r s to lower the dignity of the House.

I feel that I speak the sentiments of t'he House when I say .that there is every con­ fidence that you will maintain the dignity and authority of the House against any conceivable ·tendency 10 undermine them. :tt is a great and fa_r-reaching responsibilit y that the Speaker of fhe House must carry, but as the responsibility is great so too is the cause of orderly, decent debate and democra •tic decencies . The gracious Speech from the Throne expressed eloquently the mournful .feelings of all Newfound ­ landers over ,the dea-th of our beloved King, George the VI.

He ·was •truly a great man, a monarch indeed, -but a father, too, a father of his peoples. His was an example of public service that is an inspiration to us all through­ out the British Commonwealth and Empire and indeed -throughout the whole world. His death brought a pang of sorrow -to millions but no­ where more than his most ancien:t and loyal colony. We were all proud of the eloquence of the Honourable Premier when he joined with all the Premiers across Canada in a ,tribute to the la·te King and a welcome to our gracious young Queen.

No Premier in Canada spok e. for ·his people more sincerely or more movingly ,tban did our Premier on Lhnt occasion and we •were proud o f him for it. As the Princess Elizabeth, Heir to the Crown, she won our hearts completely, as our Queen she has our lov-e and commands our willing 'loyalty and devotion. We are proud to serve her.

We are proud to utter ,the prayer, "God Save ,the Queen, long may God spare Her 'lo ·rule over us." When the last General Assembly was dissovled and a General Election was ordered I was .happy to accept the invitation of the Leader of t-he Liberal Party to become Liberal candi­ da,te for the great district of Bonavista Sou-th. I say "great district," Mr. Speaker, for the -people of Bonavista South_ take second place to none in cwfouudland . They are .hard-work­ ing, frugal, sober and God-fearing. T hey fear God and •they honour the Queen.

It is a proud privilege •to be them: member and a proud privilege to serve them. I said I was happy to accept my Leader's invitation to ·be­ come the Liberal candidate for I could not possibly agree with anyt 'hing more than I agree with •the party policy of economic development. I am, as you can see, a young man. There are thousands like me in this Province to­ day, young men and women with most of there living still before them. What has fate in store for them? Is this Newfoundland going to ·be a place

8 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS where young men and women can earn a good living, where they can marry and have families, where they can thrive and prosper? Or is it going to be as it always was in the past, a place that tens of thousands of young people were forced to leave ·because there was no decent living in it for them? The policy of economic de­ velopment is a young man's policy; it is a policy which expresses our faith in Newfoundland's economic develop­ ment, with such a policy Newfound­ land must and will surge ahead, with­ out it Newfoundland must and will drop behind.

Newfoundland is a fair land and we love it, it is our home and we want to live in it, and to die in it, and if any of our young men leave it they want 'to do so not be­ cause they are forced to g,"l, hut freely and of =their ov-,n choice. Tvday, as I am speaking to you, there are more Newfoundlanders outside Newfound­ land than inside, tens of thousands, yes hundreds of thousands have been driven away by lack of opportunity. Economic development is a policy 'to challenge out loyalty and stimnlatP our imagination.

I was out to visit the grea.t birch indust-ry at Donovans, and I hope that every member of this House ,has been ou-t there. Like so many Newfound­ landers I have seen thousands of cords, millions of feet of prime birch slaughtered in the forests or just rotting away, I have seen it slashed in­ to •birch junks and selling for the pro­ verbial mess of pottage. In there in thot new induSL1i11l en'Lerprlse I •have seen our birch tm11ctl by modern machinery into beautjful and profit ­ able articles for sale.

Instead of birch junks you can see birch ply-wood and all sorts of beautiful hardwood floor­ ing, and inside the mill you can see Newfoundlanders learning new trades and earning wages, while outside around the Island you see ·hundreds cutting and transporting birch trees and earning their living at it . We have all heard of making two blades of grass grow where but one grew be­ fore. This new birch industry is making two blades of grass to grow where none grew before . 1:t is en­ tirely new and useful and profita:ble.

I have not yet had the privilege of seeing the great new cement plant on our West Coast nor our gypsum wall ­ board plant, but there again you have two new industries in Newfoundland, two new Newfoundland industries us­ ing Newfoundland raw materials being manned mostly by Newfoundlanders. ,vhen I was a student at Memorial College and even befure that at BiS'hop Feiid College 1, with other students, heard of great deposits of limestone and gypsum in Newfoundland. Every­ body knew of these great natural re­ sources that Divine Providence so bountifully :provided for us.

But what was done with them before •Vhis pro­ greSBive and energeLk Government turned their attention to them? Nolhing, Sir, nothing at a.II. Those vast deposits of naLural wealth lay there long before Jo·hn Cabot discov­ ered our Island but they hat.I to wait for the drive and energy of the present Liberal Government and the present Liberal Premier to be developed into jobs for Newfoundlanders and cash wealth for Newfoundland.

After all the criticism is spoken Sir, there are the facts that will remain, an<l thPy will remain long after the critics have gone and have been forgotten and it will •be remembered ·that these in- dustries did not exist until t·his pres ­ ent Government created them. These industries are facts and our Newfound­ land people want more such facts.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 9 It is a very remarkable ,thing in our Newfoundland history that there always were knockers. There were knockers and doubters when a New­ foundland Government built the rail­ way. The knockers are forgotten, the railway is here. There were knockers when a Liberal Government built the great Grand Falls Industry. The knockers are forgotten, Grand Falls is here. There were knockers when the great Humber Industry was started by a Liberal Government, they are gone too but the Humber remains. So will it be, I believe, with these birch, cement and gypsum industries.

They will be providing a good living for Newfoundlanders and strengthening Newfoundland's economy long after the knockers have been forgotten. This gospel of economic develop­ ment is a patriotic gospel to stir the blood of Newfoundlanders, to chal­ lenge loyalty and enthusiasm. Sir, the people are stirred and are enthusiastic. They did indeed, as the Speech from the Throne said, show their support in an unmistakable majority of their votes, in their very blood they feel that the Government's policy is the right policy for Newfoundland. The people do not expect perfection from any Government.

They know full well the Governmen.t has made mis­ takes and that they will make more mistakes, but they know also that the only man who makes no mistakes is the man who does nothing at all. For myself, Mr. Speaker, it is a great privilege and a grea.t 'honour to be a member of this House and a strong supporter of the Honourable Premier. In the first place I believe I share the aspirations and ambitions of all my generation in Newfoundland to­ day, I am anxious to see Newfound­ land develop and grow strong and I am anxious by my support of this Government to assist in that good work.

In -the second place I am very proud of the fact than an ancestor of mine William Brown, my great, great­ grandfather occupied a seat in the very first elected House of Assembly in Newfoundland under Represent­ ative Government. If his spirit hovers around here on this opening day of a new General Assembly, I pray that my conduct will merit 'his approbation. In the third place my revered .father occupied a seat in this House for many years. Words cannot express to you my sense of satisfaction a,t following in his footsteps.

It was in this very Chamber that he was stricken, and I am very conscious of that fact and that his thoughts are very much with me a.t this moment. My father, Sir, was always, and is today, a great be­ liever in Newfoundland's destiny. He believes in the development of New­ foundland. He was long associated with the great industry at Grand Falls and one of those in the Liberal Party who created the Humber Industry.

From him, on many occasions, I have heard ,the gospel of eoonomic develop­ ment and I would not be faithful to his teachings if I did not support this Government's great and constructive policy of economic development. I am a Liberal because I inherited Liberalism in my very blood, and be­ cause my mind leads me to it as well. My father, ·if he enjoyed his former heaLth and vitality would be here to­ day in support of this great policy of the present Government. I speak for him and for myself when I say that I can do no other, Mr.

Speaker, it is my very great privilege to move that a Committee of -this House be appoint­ ed to draft an Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne. MR. NORMAN : Mr. Speaker , I rise •to second the motion moved by I I I t

10 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS the honourable member for Bonavista South and in so doing would like to offer my sincere congTatulations on his maiden speech in this House. He is the worthy son of a worthy father and I can speak for him a very successful career in public life in this Province. The whole population of this Prov­ ince was stricken wiLh sorrow by the death of our •beloved King. He was a great and good man and we feel the poorer for his passing.

Our hea['tS go out in love and loyalty to our gracious Queen and as one we pray "God Save the Queen." As the Princ ess Elizabeth she won our hearts. vVe are proud to serve under her as Queen Elizabeth the Second. Before I proceed further, l\fr. Speaker, I should like to offer my siuu:n: c:ongramlacions co you upon your election as Speaker over this new General Assembly. I did not have the honour to 'hold a seat in the last General Assembly but even as an out­ sider I heard often of your great skill and fairness and I firmly believe that you will uphold the dignity and authority of the people's House. Mr.

Speaker, as the gracious speech declared, a General Election was held last Fall. The Liberal Government appealed to the people for a fresh mandate for their grea,t policy of economic development and the people responded with wonderful support in­ deed. How could they do otherwise? Here a,re a Government who have given every evidence of a straight siuc:ere desire to develop Newfound­ land. They do more than just preach economic development, they practise it. That is what our people have been praying and longing for all lheir livt:s, a strong Government that would throw itself into that great task.

The people also know their friends; they know rhat the Liberal Goveirnment are on their side; they know that the Liberal Government are determined to govern Newfoundland in their inter­ est. The people, Sir, are well aware that this Government are not perfect, well aware that ·they have made mis­ takes and will make mistakes in the future. They are prepared for that, so long as t.heir Government make these mistakes in a straight and manly effort to develop the Province.

I had the honour of canvassing the great and progressive District of Bur­ geo LaPoile in which I have lived and wurke<l for so many years, and I had a good opportunity to learn people's feelings. The people of Burgeo and LaPoile a,re very strong Confederates, as I am myself. They supported Con­ fe.rler~tjon in the referendun1, as I did .myself; they were very pleased that Confederaliuu won lhe <lay, as I am. They never for one moment thought that Confederation would put an end to all their problems but they did know that Confederation would bring grea.t benefits to ,them.

What fair-minded man or woman in Newfoundland today would deny that Confederation has been a great bless­ ing to ouT people. A few people still refuse to admit that Confederation brought a great blessing to Newfound­ land but in their hearts they know it. The people of Newfoundland have a very .high regard for the Leader of the Liberal Party, the Honourable the Premier, and in no district is that regard higher than in Burgeo-LaPoile.

The people know ·how the Honour­ able the Premier toiled day and night to bring this great Island into Con­ federation with Canada, they know he toiled day and night ever 5ince to develop t.his Province. There are some who bear a bitter hatred for him_ There are some who sneer at

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 11 him. But these aire only a small few out of our whole popula,tion. The great majority of Newfoundlanders are well aware that in the Leader of this House they have a leader who will give the last ounce of his strength, the last particle of his ability to make this Province lastingly prosperous for the common people.

For me person­ ally as a Confederate and a Liberal it will be an honour to serve under his leadership as a loyal supporter of the Liberal Government, for I know there is no man in Newfoundland today, in or out of this House, who can serve Newfoundland with the same energy and skill. Mr. Speaker, I ·have never been a politician . All my life to the very day I entered the General Election last Fall I have been a working man earning my living by work for wages.

I 'have for the past six years, as a member and Chairman of the Port aux Basques Town Council given my best to better conditions in that town, without remuneration . I know noth­ ing of ~he tr.icks of the politician, and I want to know nothing of them. My highest ambition is to serve the people of Newfoundland in general and the people o( Burgeo-Lal'oile in particu­ lar ,to the best of my ability, I shall always do my best to serve the people and it is my firm conviction to do that best is in being a supporter of the Liberal Government.

I am not a blind participant, and I have lived too long to think that a Government can­ not make mistakes. But we must all earn our living by principle and the sounder and truer the principle the sounder and truer our living will be. The principles of Liberalism appeal to my mind and to my heart and it is for this -reason before all else that I am a loyal supporter of the Liberal Government in this House and outside it. I have the honour, Mr. Speaker, to second the motion so ably moved by my colleague, the honourable member for Bonavista South. MR.

SPEAKER : Moved and sec­ onded, a Committee be appointed to draft an Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne. MR. CASHIN : Mr. Speaker, I rise as Leader of the Opposition in this House of Assembly to play my small

part in the functions of this afternoon. T-his is the sixteenth occasion on which I sat as a member in this House and witnessed the opening of the Legis­ lature by the Government. Therefore Sir, first let me express to you on be­ half of myself and I might add, the congratulations of the other members of the Opposition on your being elected to the highest office in the Land.

During two and a half years, or a little over, I sat on this side of the House in an Independent Seat and a.t all time your rulings were fair and I feel confident that in this session of the Legislatucr-e and the subsequent ones that will take place we will have the same fairness shown to members of both sides as you have displayed in previous Legislatures. Now, Sir, I also wish to express my personal congratulations to the mover and seconder of the Address in Reply to the Sp eech from the Throne . They have done well. One of these young gentlemen I happen to know person­ ally.

His father came into this House the same as I did twenty-nine yeacr-s ago this Spring. He was also a mem­ ber of the National Convention, as I was. Unfortunately a-t the time Mr. Brown suffered a very severe attack and he has since been unable w take ,-

12 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS his place either as a member of the House or ,to take any particular active :part in the affairs of the country. I feel confident, Mr. Speaker, that the young gentleman's revered father, if he had the opportunity to take his

part in -the administration of affairs on either side of this House during the past ·three years, he would have shown the same fairness and the same a•bility towards the people of New­ foundland as he did for the previous years when he stood as a member in -this House and administered the af­ fairs of Newfoundland. I ex,tend to that young gentleman particularly, my very great and sincere congratulations and from the manner in which he expressed himself this evening I feel confident we will hear much from him in the future.

I imagine I am proba ·bly the oldest member in t:he House, in both years and seniority as a member. I also wish to express my congratulations to the newly elected member for Burgeo­ LaPoile for the manner in whiGh he performed his duty here this evening. It is not my intention to make any lengthy address here this afternoon, that will remain for some future date. My only remarks will be directed in a very brief way, to first express on behalf of myself and my colleagues our very, very sincere sympathy in the death of our beloved King, George VI who passed away around the end of January last.

That is one :thing in this world we can all be sure of, we are going to die one day. Some day, we do not know what day, whether we be King or ordinary com­ moner, that one thing is going to happen, we are going to die and there is one thing, I, as ,Leader of the Op­ position in this House of Assembly, must say with respect to the Late Sovereign, King George VI.

He was an outstanding man a wonderful family man and this afternoon I take the opportunity of saying publicly in the Legislature Chamber of this oldest Crown Colony, "May the Lord Have Mercy on His Soul." To His young daughter who visited this Island as Princess Elizabeth, whom many of us met personally, I this afternoon, as well as my colleagues also pledge our loyalty and our affection, to that Sovereign. It was, I think, in the reign of Queen Eliza·beth the First that Great Britain prospered the greatest.

I hope and trust, and am confident, that in the reign of Queen Elizabeth the Second, some four hun­ dred and fifty years later, Britain will regain the same prestige and economic standing in the world as she did in the days of Elizabeth the Firsl. Now, Mr.

Speaker, with respect to other matters contained in the Speech from the Throne I have little to say this afternoon, with this exception : A General Election was held, as pointed out in the Speech from the Throne, and whether the Government likes i:t or not, whether they are dis­ appointed or not, there are six mem­ bers sitting in the Opposition today who join in pledging their loyalty to the Queen just the same as ·the mem­ bers did on the other side of the House.

I have listened, as I said, to some sixteen Speeches from the Throne in this Legislature and if we traced them all back to the fi:rst one I heard in 1923 we would find very little dif­ ference in any of them, either ones I was identified with or ones I edified as a member as the Opposition or as an Independent, they are always the same. There have -been many, many remarks made with respect to Speeches from the Throne by prominent mem­ bers of this House and who occupied seats in 'this Opposition in by-gone

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 13 days, remarks I do not intend making here this afternoon. However, I want to make it quite clear, Mr. Speaker, on listening to the mover and seconder of the Address in Reply, we, as mem­ bers of the Opposition, are just as much in favour of economic develop­ ment in this country, Island, Province, call it what you like, as a member occupying a seat on the Government side of the House . Our job in here­ we were elected on one platform and one only, if I might be permitted to use, Sir, the words of that great states­ man, Winston Churchill, a platform of blood, sweat and tears.

We had nothing personal to offer the elector­ ate but we told them we felt we should have an opposition in the House and if they elected us our job would ·be to assist the Government in its economic programme but at the same time we must find out the facts, facts referred to by the mover of this Address in Reply this afternoon. That is our job in here, Mr. Speaker, and as Leader of this Opposition and repre­ sentative of the District of St. John's West, I say we are going to carry out that job to the best of our ability. MR. SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker, I join in congratulating Your Honour as Speaker of the House.

Your Hon­ our, as far as I can recollect is ,the first member of the House in the present century to be elected Speaker of more than one General Assembly. Your Honour was Speaker throughout the whole of the 29th General Assem­ bly and is the Speaker of the House in the new 30th General Assembly. I have personally seen and heard and known every Speal«!r of th~s House since 1913 when the Chair was occupied •by the Late John R. Gadison of Carbon­ ear from whicii town we had another Speaker, the Late Judge Penney.

In that long line of Speakers from 1913 no man has occupied -the Chair with more ability, more knowledge, more fairness or impartiality as Speaker than Your Honour has shown in the four sessions we have had since Your Hon­ our first occupied the Chair. I am ha;ppy to hear the honou:rahle Leader of the Opposition express somewhat similar sentiments here this afternoon. I am perfectly confident that under Your Honour's guidance the affairs of the House of Assembly will be trans­ acted in an orderly and proper manner and in an orderly and proper atmos­ phere. Mr.

Speaker, I am very proud to be the Leader of a political party that can :produce such men as the two honourable gentlemen who have moved and seconded the motion now before you . Rarely in the history of this House has this motion been moved more impressively in a maiden speech than it was done today by the young honourable member for Bonavista South. His father will be a very proud man when he learns, as he will, of the very distinguished manner in whicii his son discharged that historic duty of the opening day of a new session.

I am sure that my honourable friend the Leader of the Opposition who knew Ken Brown, as some others of us did, listened with intense in­ terest •to his son today and with a vivid recollection of many speeches by Ken Brown in and out of this House, heard his son with great jntereilt and with some curiosity to see if this was to be a chip off the old block. I be­ lieve that the honourable member fur Bonavista South has a very fine career ahead of him.

I -have said that be­ fore of the honourable member for Green Bay, the ,honourable member for Fogo, the honourable member for Pla­ centia West and other honourable gentlemen on this side of the House

14 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS who have moved and seconded this same motion in other sessions of the House, because I am indeed very proud of the fact that this party has the vitality, the life and the policy to be able to attract such men, men such as the honourable member who seconded the motion today, the hon­ ournble member for Burgeo-LaPoile whose name in that District and whose name in t he Town of Port aux Basques and Channel is respected as no other is respected as one who has given himself, i.pent himself, his ability and energy for nothing in the creation of and the building up and financing of that town council which I am sure my honourable colleague, the Minister of Supply, will agree is one of the most -progressive and pros­ perous a nrl sn rnessfu 1 of all the thirty tcnvn ccuncifa in this rrovince today.

And so it goes with all my colleagues. I am very proud indeed that the Liberal Party could attract to its ranks as candidates such men as my hon­ ourable colleague, the Minister of Finance , the memb er for Placentia-St.

Mary's a ge,ntlPman who, in my opm1on, possesses one of the most brilliant minds that politics ·has ever seen in this Province, a man whose 3.Uthorship of the "Sacred Cow" arti­ cles in our Confederate newspaper, the "Confederate" marked him as one of the most brilliant political satirists Newfoundland has ever seen; proud that we could attract to our ranks so brilJ.iant a lawyer as the honour­ able member for Port de Grave and my honourable colleague in this Gov­ ernment, the honourable gentleman for Harbour Main-Bell Island.

Now my old friend across there, another member for Harbour Main-Bell Island objected once when I called his col­ league of that day, the senior member for Harbour Main-Bell Island. I -think he claimed he is the senior member and I was not too sure whether he claimed seniority on the grounds of age or the number of votes he got. MR. JACKMAN : I was senior in both. MR. SMALLWOOD: You are still sen ior in votes but I don't know about age, I hardly know.

The honourable gentlemen . should get together and sw;ip ages and compare notes on ages so that the House can know whether to address my honourable colleague as the honourable the senior member for Harbour Main-Bell Island or use that title for the honourable gentle­ man opposile. Rut 111y honourable colleag·ue in Cabinet, the honourable member for Harbour Main-Bell Islan<l is the only member on this siclc> of the House 'Nhc occupied a scat in the House before Confederation, as my honourable friend the Leader of the Opposition is the only member on that side of the House who occupied a seat.

Certainly the traditions of this House ;ire likely to be preserved when we have here two men, two honourable gentlemen who are well aware of Lhe traditions of the Hous e, such personal knowledge and experience in years gone by and we in the Government are very proud indeed to have as a col­ leag ue a brilliant Queen's Couns ellor iu the person of •the member for Har­ bour Main-Bell Island.

Taking the whole party, I see in the Chamb er Lo­ day, I will not say a "Stranger" it would seem strange to apply that term to the only Newfoundlander living to­ day who is an ex-Premier of New­ foundland, but I see here a gentleman who was Premier of Newfoundland, one I think of the greatest gentlemen who occupied th~ t office, and I do hope tha·t no one will take offense when I say this party as it sits here to­ day ranks high, ranks high in the Par-

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 15 Jiaments that have sat in this Chamber in the past. Few have reached as high as this party does in the quality of its personnel, and very few indeed ever reached higher, if any at all. So, Mr. Speaker, with great sincerity I con­ gratulate •the mover and seconder of this motion. I will not reply to anything my hon­ ourable friend the Leader of the Op­ position has said about the Speech from the Throne. It seems that the old practice has gone, the practice of criticising the Speech from the Throne 011 opening day.

It appears to have become the practice in the last General Assembly to say virtually nothing at all about the Speech from the Thron e and for the Leader of the Opposition and the Premier in reply to confine themselves entirely to some words of congratulations to Mr. Speaker and the Mover and Seconder of the motion and to some matters of State perhaps referred to in the Speech. So I canno t reply to anything my honourabl e friend has said. I am genuinely sorry that four of our colleagues on this side of the House are no longer with us. Mr. Spratt, Mr. Vardy, Mr. Horwood and Mr. Mackinson.

I am not so sorry yet sorry that we have not with us in the Chamber, Mr. J. G. Higgins and Mr. Fahey, neither of whom offered themselves as a candidate in the last General Election. I notice on the opposite side some new faces, good­ looking faces, intelligent-looking faces and I do hope that they will use all their ability to criticise the Govern­ ment, that they are anxious to crit• icise the Government's conduct and above all to criticise the Government's legislation. How the fairy-tale got into circulation last Fall that thi s Party and that I wanted no Opposi ­ tion is something, Sir, that I don't know.

I have no knowledge of how it originated. It was just a fairy-tale indeed, nevertheless it is one of these fairy-tales believed by children from seventy-five years of age down, a fairy­ tale that got wide cidculation in New­ foundland. "Tha·t the Leader of the IJiberal Party wanted no Opposition." From that fairy-tale ,it is easy to move on to the inference ,that the Leader of the Liberal Party is an insidious Hitler, a would-be dictator. •It was a very short step indeed and a justiliiable step to take. If a man wanted no Opposition then clearly he must be a would-be dictator.

I think, if I am a dictator, I am one in exactly the same sense as the late Franklyn Roosevelt was called a dicta,tor by his Opposition and as the Leader of any party desiring a strong working majority is apt to be called a dictator by the Opposition of his day.

I say: "I am glad ·that we have some opposition ." Time will tell if ~t is a better Opposition than the one that was here before; time will tell i.f their criticism of the Government, its actions, its legislation is more telling, more penetrating; time will tell if they will help Newfoundland by their criticism more than did the Opposi­ tion of the past three years. Time alone will tell-I can only wish them luck.

I don't think I can wish my hon­ ourable friend the Leader of the Op­ position very much luck in his ambi­ tion, the ambition he is alleged in recent weeks to have expressed on the Southern Shore, the ambition to be Premier by October. I don't think I can wish him much luck in that. I might be generous and wish him luck 1n that, and add that he will need the luck-he will need it- MR. CASHIN: I might need a lot of sympathy from you. ,.

16 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS MR. SMALLWOOD: Now, Mr. Speaker, I had made a note to draw the attention of the House to -the gift recently received by this House of Assembly from a sister Province, a new Treasury Table, but it is not in the Chamber at the moment, and so l will perhaps leave that to another more suitable occasion. I wish to close with a ve1·y brief reference to the first part of the Speech from the Throne.

Many hun­ dreds of Newfoundlanders met the late King on his visit to Newfoundland, some others met the King in England perhaps some met him in France dur ­ ing the first World War, I don't know.

To have met the Monarch is to give one more of a sense of a Monarch's reality than if the Monarch merely bore the name or is a picture one sees in the newspapers or on the motion pictures, and if the feeling I had when the King visited Newfoundland and when I had the great honour to be presented to him, was typical of the feelings of hundreds of others who met him, then I think the feeling would be that he was a good man, I think the feeling would be that there was something pathetic aboul him, something sad. I have always had the feeling that our late King was a man who was sad, he rarely smiled very much.

Many noticed that his daugh­ ter , our present Queen, when she was here last year rarely smiled as though she too seemed to have some of that same sadness which some of us at least noticed in our late King, her father. There was nothing gaudy about him, nothing spectacular about him, a simple man, plain and simple, a humble man, a good man.

The Hon­ ourable Leader of the Opposiliou said he was a good family man, known throughout the world for that, a good man, a good father, a good family man, a humble man, good living, plain decent, plain simple, about the last man you could pictm·e as a Monarch and I suppose no man ever expected so little to become a Monarch as he did. I have always had the feeling that his Monarchy, his Kingship, was a great burden, unwelcome, imposed on him by historic selection, that he fulfilled with a great sense of duty. I could almost feel, Sir, that his death was something of a release from a terrible burden.

The Gracious Queen that we love, all of us, all Newfound­ landers, young, beautiful, gracious and charming is now carrying that terrible burden, one of the greatest burdens in the world, Queen of England, Mon­ arch of this great Commonwealth . I would not wish it to my relative, nor to an enemy, l would not wish it on ~ny hu:nan to bear for the rest of lte1 life, as long as she lives, and I pray God it may be as long as Victoria did, for so long as she lives that terrible burden of sceptre and crown. Mr.

Speaker, I ask the House and every­ one present t.o st~nd and join with me in singing the "National Anthem." MR. SPEAKER : Moved and sec­ onded that a Committee be appointed to draft an Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne. Honourable members to constitute that Committee : The Mover and Seconder of the Motion, the Honour­ able Leader of the Opposition. MR. CURTIS : Mr. Speaker, I give notice l will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act Further to Amend the Newfoundland Corpora­ tion Tax Act, 1949." "A Bill to Amend

Chapter 125 of the Consolidated Statutes, 'Third Ser­ ies,' entitled 'Of Trustees'."

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 17 HON. P. S. FORSEY (Minister of Supply) : Mr. Speaker, I give notice I will on tomorrow ask leave to intro­ duce a Bill, "An Act to Amend the Local Government Election Act, 1951." A Bill, "An Act Relating to Desig­ nation of Certain Local Government Officials." HON. DR. H. L. POTTLE (Minis­ ter of Public Welfare) : I give notice Mr. Speaker, I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled "A Bill Further to Amend the Department of Public Welfare Act, 1949." MR. SMALLWOOD: Mr.

Speaker, I give notice I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act to Amend the Timber License Revision to Crown Act, 1951." "To Amend the Fire Patrol Act, 1948." MR. SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker, under Standing Order No. 88, it is provided that a Committee of five be named by the mover, shall be ap­ pointed on motion of the Leader or other member of the Government as early as possible in each session, whose duty it will be to prepare a list of members to compose the following Standing Committees of the House: ( 1) On Privileges and Elections.

(2) On Standing Orders and the Library.

(3) On Miscellaneous Private Bills .

(4) On Municipal Affairs. MR. SPEAKER : I move therefore in accordance with Standing Orders in question, The Honourable the At­ torney General, The Honourable Min­ ister of Finance, the Honourable Min­ ister for Education, the Honourable Minister for Supply, the Honourable Minister of Fisheries and Co-operatives be the Standing Committee under the Standing Order in question. MR. SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker, I ask leave of the House to have the Report of the Auditor General printed for submission to the House, the Pub­ lic Accounts in short. They may be ordererd by the House to be printed.

They are in fact ready to be printed when the House orders them to be printed. That is normal procedure. DR. POTTLE : Mr. Speaker, I lay on the Table of the House today a re­ ceipted regulation, "Old Age Assistance 1951 made on provisions of the Old Age Assistance Act, 1951." Notice of Question MR. FOGWILL: To ask the Honourable the Minister of Economic Development to lay on the table of the House information relative to the Machine Plant now being erected at the Octagon. 1. From whom did the Government acquire the property and what was the cost? 2. How many buildings are to be erected?

State dimension and classi­ fication of each building such as Pat­ tern Shops, Foundries, Machine and Fitting Shops, etc. Give details. 3. Inform the House in detail of the class or type of machinery it is proposed to manufacture, such as grinding and milling machines , farm­ ing machinery, factory and machine shop tools, etc. 4. Was there a market survey made in the areas where the products of the plant are to be sold? H so, who made the survey? What did it cost? and table survey.

18 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 5. Give an estimate of the total num­ ber of workers to be employed at the plant in the various classifications such as draughtsmen, pattern makers, moulders, machine operators and other technical skills. 6. From where is the skilled help obtained? 7. From the total number of work­ ers to be employed, what percentage will be Newfoundlanders? 8.

In respect to the proposal to seL up a vocational training school at the plant, give an estimate of the number of persons to be trained, the perioct of training, and the estimated cost to the Government per year. (2)-To ask the Honourable the Minister of Economic Development? l. Where is the proposed Textile Plant to be located? 2. From whom was the site for the Plant purchased and what amount was paid for the propeI1ty? 3.

I11fun11 lhe House uf the uumuer and dimensions of each building Lo be constructed; also the number of looms and spinning machines to be installed, including the type or class of textiles the Plant is designed to manufacture; also state where the product of this Plant is to be sold. 4. How many male and female work­ ers are to be employed and what percent of the total will be New­ foundlanders? (3)-To ask the Honourable the Premier: l. To inform the House of the re­ sult of the water power investigation made by the Power Corporation of Canada in the nay D'Espoir area. 2.

Wha•t ·is the completed survey ex­ pected to cost and what amount has been paid to date to the Corporation? 3. What is the estimated cost of developing this area per electrical horsepower? MR. FOGWILL: To ask the hon­ ourable rhe Minister of Public Works : (4) 1. To table a statement showing the total cost of the Trans-Canada Highway to February 29, 1952, state­ ment to include the number of miles of highway completed including pav­ ing, the number of miles of highway completed and ready for paving as well as the number of miles of high­ way presently under construction. 2.

How many contracts have been a,warded to construct portions of the highway, information to include the names of individuals or firms to whom contracts have been awarded, the num­ ber of miles completed and under construction and the amount paid to each contractor. 3. What progress has been made in the construction of bridges on the highway? State the number of bridges completed and under construction, the type of bridges, concrete or steel, the dimension and cost of each bridge to date; also state if this work has been contracted for or is being done by the Department of Public Works. 4.

Inform ,the House of the total amount paid to February 29, 1952, by the Federal Government of Canada to the Government of Newfoundland in respect of the Federal Government share in the cost of construction of the highway. 5. Give an estimate of what amount this Trans-Canada Highway plan will cost the Province when finished.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 19 MR. FOGWILL; To ask the honour­ able Minister of Supply to table the following information ; (5) 1. The total amount expended for printing and advertising by the Government since April 1st, 1951, to date, giving the names of the firms or indiv,iduals who rece,ived this business together with the amount paid to each. 2. The total amount expended for drugs and medicines supplied the various Government Hospitals in St.

John's and elsewhere since April ht, 1951, to date, giving the names of the firms or individuals who supplied these drugs and medicines as well as the amount each firm or individual was paid. 3. The total amount expended for dry goods and hospital equipment since April 1st, 1951, to date, give the names of the individuals or firms to whom this business was given, together with the amount each firm or in­ dividual was paid. 4. The total amount expended on office equipment, typewriters, station­ ery, etc., since April 1st, 1951, to date, this to include desks and furniture for (6) .

To ask the honourable the Minister of Public Works: 1. Inform the House of the nature of the reconstruction or repairs made to the residence recently vacated by the Chief of Police. 2. Give the names of the individuals or firms employed to do the plumb­ ing, heating, and woodwork, etc. 3. Were tenders called? If so, was the lowest tender accepted? 4. Is the building to be used as office quarters only? Give details. (7) . To ask the honourable the Minister of Public Works : 1. Is it the intention of the Govern­ ment to construct a bridge over Pla­ centia Gut? 2.

Is the design for a bridge over the Gut, which Colonel V. S. Thomp­ son of the Federal Department of Re­ construction and Supply had been working on in 1949, to be used as the plan for this Bridge? 3. What is the estimated cost of this bridge? (8) . To ask the honourable the offices. Give the name or names of Minister of Finance : individuals or firms who received this business as well as the amount paid each individual or firm for such goods. 5.

How many pounds of ham and bacon were supplied to the various Government institutions for August, September, October, November, Dec­ ember of 1951 and January and Feb­ ruary of 1952. Information to include the name of Government institutions in St. John's for the months of July, of the sup­ plier for each month as well as the brands and the price per pound. 1. To table a statement showing the total amount spent, committed to be spent, loaned, or loans guaranteed in respect to industrial development since April 1st, 1949. (9) . MR.

HOLLETT : To ask the honourable the Attorney General to lay on the table of the House the following information : 1. What member of the Newfound­ land Bar was appointed Assessor under the provisions of

Sec. 5, sub-sec. (4) of the Government-Seiglieitn (Agreement) Act, 1951?

20 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 2, Has Dr. Seigheim thus far pro­ moted under the laws of Switzerland a company know as "Latuco," and •has he assigned and transferred his rights, duties and obligations under the Agreement in accordance with

section 14 of ·the Government-Seigheim (Agree­ ment) Act. 3. W·hat law firm at St. John's represented the Seigheim Group in its various negotiations last summer and autumn with the Government, the R.C.A.F. and the Canadian Na~ional Telegraphs? 4. What steps have thus far been taken ,by the "Financier" named in the Government-Seigheim Agreement to train people from Labrador and Newfoundland -to become skilled work­ ers, officials and scientists in silvicul­ ture and agriculture as per agreement? Also ·have the Board of Regents of the Memorial University thus far given their consent for Dr.

Seigheim from East Germany to establish a chair of Foresty for the purpose of affording advanced education in mod­ ern silviculture?

(10) To ask the .honourable the Premier or appropriate Minister to lay on the ta•ble of the House the following information : l. A copy of the Agreement made bdween the Government and Dr. Sennewald relative to the setting up of an Optical Co. 2. Wha,t was the cost of the use of the R.C.A.F. plane used to intercept Dr. Sennawald at Gander last Fall and to bring him to St. John's. What German National went to Gander to intercept Dr. Sennawald? Was the cost of the plane a charge on the Newfoundland Treasury? 3. What, if any, negotiations were undertaken with Mr.

Forsyth, the President of D.O.S.C.O., relative to the steel plant promised for Bay Roberts? Is the Gennan firm of Krupps inter­ ested in ,this project? 4. Give a detailed statement showing the number of Beer and Wine Licenses presently at issue, ·the name of the taverns, clubs or hotels and the names of the Licensees to whom the Licenses were issued and ,the date of issue. Also state the fee charged for each License.

(11) To ask the honourable the Minister of Natural Resources -to ,table the following information : I. How many aerial photographs of the Seigheim concession were developed by the Department for Dr. Seigheim au<l/or his agems? 2. What was the cost of same, and was this cost borne by the Department at the request of Dr. Valdmanis and M:r. Graudin? 3. How much h10ney was loaned to the Stadium Co. Ltd. by the Govern­ ment, and under what conditions? Is it the intention of the Acting Minister to proceed with the erection of the Stadium as a Government project as promised during the recent by-election in St. John's West?

(12) To ask the honourable the Minister of Fisheries and Co-operatives to lay on the table of this House the following information : I. W·hat was ,the exact financial position of Richards Ltd. when taken over by the Government? 2. Who were the Directors at the time, and upon whose recommend­ ations were the four Icelandic Boats acquired by the Government? 3. What were the reasons why the Government assumed the Debt of $397,143.80, owed by Richards Ltd.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 21 4. Give a complete statement in de­ tail of monies advanced to Richards Ltd. from time to time, with dates of said advances; showing also Direotors' Fees, and to whom paid, lawyers' fees and to whom paid; also a statement as to earnings of these boats since they were acquired by the Government. 5. What wharfage and care-taking charges are presently ,being paid, and to whom? 6. What, if any, fees have been paid to Directors Keough, Chalker, Forsey and Curtis since the boats were taken over by the Government and what monies, if any, were pa.id to Messrs. Lewis, Bjarnason and Zoega, since the first arrival of these Icelandic Boats in Newfoundland?

(13) To ask ·the honourable the Minister of Economic Development ,to lay on the ,table of the House the fol­ lowing information : 1. The total cost up ,to the end of February, 1952, of the government owned Birch Plant, and the total amount of monies as of February 29th, 1952, paid 1by the Government to Newfoundland Hardwoods Ltd. 2. A copy of the Agreement or Agreements between the Government and Chester Dawe or Chester Dawe, Ltd.. and/or between Newfoundland Hardwoods and Chester Dawe or Ches­ ter Dawe, Ltd. 3.

The total number of men and women -now employed by Newfound­ land Hardwoods, Ltd., and total amount of monies per week presently being paid out in salaries and wages. 4. The total nett earnings to date of the Newfoundland Hardwoods, Ltd. 5. What quantities have been sold and to whom? 6. Give particulars of a recent break­ down in the machinery at this plant. Who is the plant Engineer and what salary is he being paid? 7. Who are the Directors of New­ foundland Hardwoods, Ltd., and what Directors' Fees are being paid to each? 8.

Have any offers yet been made for the purchase of this Plant and if so by whom, and price offered. (14)-MR. HOLLETT-To ask the Honourable the ·Minister of Finance to table the following information : 1. The amount of Travelling Ex­ penses incurred (

a) by the Premier and Minister of Economic Develop­ ment (

b) by the Director of Economic Development, Dr. Valdmanis, in detail since April 1st, 1949. 2. The number of dinnei-s given at \.\'oodstock during the past twelve months by Dr. Valdmanis as Director of Economic Development, the names of persons attending each dinner, and the cost of same. 3. The nature of Dr. Valdmanis's recent trip abroad and the cost of same. 4. The amount of legal fees paid out by the Government and/or Govern­ ment Departments to individual law­ yers and law firms since April 1st, 1949, stating services performed and the names of lawyers and solicitors concerned . 5.

What lawyers or law firms pre­ pared the necessary Agreements be­ tween the Government and the follow­ ing companies or individuals and what fees were paid in each instance? (

a) Dr. Arthur Seigheim, (

b) Latuco, (

c) Chester Dawe or Chester Dawe, Ltd., (

d) Newfoundland Hardwoods Ltd., (

e) Fishery Products, Ltd., (

f) North-

22 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS eastern Fish lndustnies, Ltd., (

g) Arc­ tic Fisheries Produots, Ltd., (

h) John Penny & Sons, Ltd., (

i) Northlantic Fisheries, Ltd., (

j) St. Lawrence Cor­ poration of Newfoundland, Ltd., (

k) Hollett Sons & Co., Ltd.,

(1) Falcon­ bridge Nickel Mines, Ltd., (

m) United Cotton M:ills, Ltd., (

n) Canadian Mac­ hinery and Industry Construction, Ltd., (

o) Frobisher, Ltd., (

p) Newfound­ land Tanneries Ltd., (

q) Dr. Senne­ wald, (

r) Newfuuudlaud-Labrador Corporation, Ltd., (

s) Newfoundland Fur Industries, Ltd., (

t) United En­ gineers and Contractors, Ltd. What fees were paid in each instance and to whom? Name the Government Direc­ tor on each of the companies to whom the Government has loaned money or made commitments, and what, if any, remuneration is being made to each?

(15) To ask the Honourable the Minister of Provincial Affairs OT ap­ propriate Minister to table the follow­ ing information : 1. What was ,the cost to the Treas­ ury of the November General Election and the cost by districts? 2. What was the cost to the Treas­ ury of the recent by-election in St. John's West?

(16) To ask the Honourable the Minister of Fisheries and Co-opera­ tives: l. Is it correct that the Government has decided to discontinue Experimen­ tal fishing? 2. Will the Honourable Minister lay on the table of the House a de­ tailed report of the Government's ex periments in (

a) long-lining, (

b) Dan­ ish seining, (

c) any other methods, showing costs of the various experi­ ments, on what basis the crews were paid, i.e. on shares or on wages, and the share of wages in each case. 3. ls the Minister prepared to make any recommendations to the fishermen of the Province as a result of the ex­ periments?

(17) To ask the Honourable the Premier to table the following infor­ mation: l. Has any action been taken to implement the recommendation of Mr. James C. Thompson of Peat, Mar­ wick, Mitchell 8c Co., made on January 20th, 1950, relative to the formation of a purchasing committee, consisting of the Deputy Ministers of Finance, Sup­ ply, Health and Public Works Depart­ ments, or responsible officers ap­ pointed by them? If not, why not? 2. Is it conect that the Birch Plant, Cement and Gypsum Mills are being handed over to the l~ewfuuntlland­ Labrador Corporation, Ltd.?

Who is the Managing Director of this Corpora­ tion, and is he receiving any salary for same? If so, how much? 3. Give a detailed statement of mon­ ies paid out of ,the Suplus Account to date to industrial companies of For­ eign origin, and how much is still due these several companies 01· account of Commitments made by the Govern­ ment? Is it still the intention of the Government to borrow against the crediit of the Province unlimited amounts to further finance these and other foreign industrialists?

(8) To ask •the Honourable the Minister of Public Works to table the following information: 1. The amount of money expended by the Government on Road ·work in each of the following periods by dis­ tricts: NovembPr 3rd, 1949 to Novem­ ber 26th, 1949; November 3rd, 1950 to November 26th, 1950; November 3rd, 1951, to November 26th, 1951.

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(19) To ask the Honourable the Minister of finance or other appro­ priate Minister to lay on the table of the House the following information : I. The numbers of Newfoundlanders apart from the House of Assembly who are employed in the Colonial Build­ ing? 2. The number of foreigners pres­ ently working in the Colonial Build­ ing. Give salaries of the individual Newfoundlanders and of the individ­ ual foreigners. 3. Relative to the Surplus Account as of Date of Union, how much is left to ,the credit of 1 /3rd Current and how much overdrawn is the 2/3rd for Ec­ onomic Development?

(20) MR. DUFFY : To ask the Hon­ ourable the Minister of Public Works to table the following information : I. How many individuals of Euro­ pean origin are employed by the De­ partment of Highroads. Give the names of such employees-the salaries they are being paid-the duties they are performing. Also inform the House whether or not the Government paid their transportation from Europe; and if so, is it the intention of the Government to deducL this amount from their salaries.

(21) MR. DUFFY: To ask the Hon­ ourable the Minister of Public Wel­ fare to lay on the table of the House the following information : I. How many Welfare Officers have been appointed to the various elec­ toral districts throughout the Province? 2. Give the names of the persons appointed to such position-the dis­ tricts to which they have been ap­ pointed and the salaries paid each Officer annually. 3. Also inform the House if travel­ ling and other expenses are being paid such Officers and if so, what amount has been paid to each individual of­ ficer? 4.

What was the cost annually for Relieving Officers throughout the Province prior to the appointment of these welfare officers . 5. What amount of money was ex­ pended by the Welfare Department for the fiscal year 1950-51 and the eleven months of 1951-52 for broad­ casting purposes over station CBN? , ,vhat is the purpose of such broadcast­ ing? Has any additional money been paid the Deputy Minister of Welfare for this broadcasting and if so what amount has he been paid for the per­ iod above mentioned?

(22) MR DUFFY : To ask the Hon­ ourable Minister of Public ·works to table the following information: I. What amount of money was ex­ pended on the construction of the new addition to the Mental Hospital dur­ ing the fiscal year 1951-52? 2. What has been the total amount of money expended on the construc­ tion of this new addition to the Men­ tal Hospital since construction began a few years ago? 3. Is the new addition to the Men­ tal Hospital now completed? If not, what further expenditure is necessary to complete the buildings? 4.

Give the names of the individuals or Contracting Companies who per­ formed the work of construction as well as the amount of money each in­ dividual or firm has received for work performed . This refers to the new wings on the Mental Hospital.

(23) MR. DUFFY: To ask the Hon­ ourable the Minister of Public ,vorks: r-

24 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS l. To inform the House what pro­ gress has been made with respect to the construction of the Nursing Sta ­ tion at Trepassey. 2. Also to lay on the table of the House the information relating to the awarding of the contract for the con­ struction of this Nursing Station at Trepassey. Were tenders called for the perfor­ mance of this particular job? If so, table a copy of all Tenders and in­ form the House if the lowest tender was accepted. Also advise the House the amount of such Tender. 3.

To inform the House the total amount of money expended on the re­ construction of Highroads in Ferry· land District from August 1st, 195l. to December 1st, 195L Is it the in­ tention of the Government to continue this st!aso11 wilh the reconditioning of the Ferryland Highway and what amount of money wil'l be expended in this respect? 4. Also inform the House the total amount of money allocatetl Lo Feny· land District in the way of local grants specifying the amount spent in each settlement.

(24) MR. HIGGINS: To ask the Honourable the Minister of Finance or the appropriate Minister to table the following information : 1. A statement showing the total amount advanced for the construction of the Gypsum Plant at Corner Brook, giving the total cost of this Plant to the Government. 2. A statement showing any con­ tracts made for the sale of the Gypsum procluct. 3. Whether the Plant is for sale and if negotiations have taken place or are taking place for the sale of this Plant. 4.

A sta<tement showing from whom the machinery for this Plant was pur­ chased; .the cost •thereof and whether a,ny inspection was made by anyone on behalf of the Government as to the condition of •this machinery.

(25) To ask the Minister of Finance and/or the appropriate Minister <to table the following information : 1. A statement showing the •total amount advanced for the construction of the Cement Plant at Corner Brook, giving the total cost of this Plant to the Government. 2. Is the Plant now operating at full capacity? 3. How many persons are employed at the said Plant and what are the nationalities of the employees? 4. What sales, if any, have been made of the finished products of the said Plant? 5.

A statement giving all the facts relative to any breakdown in the machinery and other equipment of the said Plant since the date of its formal opening, whether this trnubk ha,s been overcome, and whether there has been any cost to the Government in­ volved thereby.

(26) MR CASHIN : To ask the Honourable the Minister of Finance to table the following information : l. A Copy of the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for the fiscal year 1950-51. 2. Total amount of cash surplus re­ maining to the credit of the Exchequer in the Bank of Montreal at St. John's as ait February 29th, 1952; as well as the tot~l amount of cash to the Credit of the Province of Newfoundland on deposit with the Federal Government at Ottawa at the present time.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 25 3. The Cash surplus to the Credit of the Newfoundland Savings Bank at the end of December, 1951; also the total deposits in ,the Newfoundland Savings Bank at the present time, to• get.her ,with a statement showing the securities and Cash held by that Bank against these deposits. 4. The total Cash surplus to the Credit of the Board of Liquor Depart­ ment as at February 29th, 1952; to• gether with a statement showing the value of stock on hand by that De­ partment, as well as a statement show­ ing any outstanding debts that may be due by that Department for pur­ chase of liquor. 5.

The total Ordinary Revenue ex­ clusive of subsidies or grants from the Federal Government received ,by the Treasury from April 1st, 1951, to February 29th, 1952. This information to be given under the various Depart· mental headings. 6. The total subsidies and special grants received from the Federal Gov­ ernments from April 1st, 1951, ,to February 29th, 1952. This information to be given showing special grants for Health and Welfare Departments as well as subsidies and Transitional grants received under the Finance De­ partment.

In other words table all information covering the total amount of money received from the Federal Government over the period April 1st, 1951, to February 29th, 1952. 7. Table a statement showing the total Ordinary Expenditure by the Provincial Government under specific Departmental Headings from April 1st, 1951, to February 29th, 1952. 8. The total Capital Expenditure under the various Departmental Head­ ings from April 1st, 1951, to February 29th, 1952. 9.

The Grand total Expenditure of the Province of Newfoundland under •the va·rious Departmental Headings from April 1st, 1951, to February 29th, 1952; also the grand total :revenue for the same period under the various De­ partmental Headings.

(27) MR. CASHIN : To ask the honourable the Minister of Finance and/or appropriate Minister to table the following information : 1. A statement showing the actual Cash Loans made to various Industries and Companies for Fishery develop• ment-the amounts of the original loans-the rate of interest charged on such loans-and the amounts due by each Company a;t the present time. This information to include loans granted ,by the Commission Govern• ment prior to April 1st, 1949-giving the names of the various Corporations or individuals to whom such loans were made. 2.

A statement showing Bank guar­ antees given various Corporations or individuals by the present adminis­ tration from April 1st, 1949 to date­ together with the names of the corpor• ations- the dates the guarantees were given-and the amounts outstanding at the present time. With reference to ,these two ques­ tions give all details as to terms, etc.

(28) MR. CASHIN : To ask the honourable the Minister of Finance to talble the following information : 1. Under what Department do the Loan Boards under the Chairmanship of Mr. James Baxter function? 2. Table a statement showing the number and names of the various in­ dividuals work,ing in conjunction with these loan boards, showing •the salaries paid to each individual.

26 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 3. From what vote in the estimates for 1951-52 have these various salaries been paid? 4. What loans or advances have these loan boards made or recmn­ mended to be made since their in­ ception? 5. Give the names of the Corpor­ ations or individuals to whom such loans or advances have been made­ the dates the loans were made-and what security the Government has been given for such advances. 6. Give a detailed statement cover­ ing the administration of the three amounts voted by the House in the 1950-51 estimates amounting to $1,500.- 000.00 for the three Loan Boards un­ der Mr.

Baxter's chairmanship. In­ form the House if ,t.hese three amounts were passed over to custody of the Loan Iloards or deposited in a separ­ ate account in the Bank of Montreal at St. John's for administration by the Loan Boards. Give full particulars covering the administration of this particular amount of money. This question has reference to three specific amounts voted in 1950-51 estimates as follows : Industrial Loan Board $300.- 000.00, see page 2-Estimates. Fish­ eries Loan Board $1,000,000 .00, see page 57, Estimates. Co-operative Loan Board, $200,000.00 see page 58, Esti­ mates 1950-51.

(29) To ask the honourable the Minister of Finance to table a state­ ment showing the amount of money collected under the Social Security Act from A:pril 1st, 1951 to February 29th, 1952. To ask the honoura,b]e the Minister of Public Welfare to table a statement showing the amount of money paid out to persons all over the Province as outlined under

Section 2, sulb-seotion L of the Social Security Act. This in­ formation to be given in detail as applied to each classification.

(30) To ask the honourable the Minister of Economic Development to table the following informa•tion : 1. What amount of money has been advanced to the Canadian Machinery Construction Limited? 2. What progress has heen made in the construction of this plant at the Octagon on Topsail Road? 3. Give the names of permanent employees at present engaged and un­ der salary with this Company-together with the rates of sa!a,ry being paid each individual. 4.

Have any negotiations heen made either by official:; of the ~,1achincry Company or the Premier :and Attorney General on behalf of this particular Company to sell the Bond Issue of some .$2,500,000.00 which was guaran­ teed by the Government under an agreement enacted in the Legislature at its last session? 5. If any negotia•tions have taken place table the information requested and inform the House what the pros­ pects for selling the Bond Issue are and at what price it is anticipated such bond issue will be sold?

(31) To ask the honourable the Minister of Finance or the Minister of Economic Development to table the following information : 1. What amount of money has been advanced to the Newfoundland Tan­ ne:vies-William Dorn, Limited, •by the Government? 2. Ras the Company made any effort to sell its Bond Issue of .$300,000.00 which was guaranteed by the Govem­ merrt under an agreement entered into

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 27 last autumn and which was passed by the Legislature at its last session? If the Company has not been successful in selling this particular bond issue, what steps are being taken to recover any monies advanced by the Govern­ ment, or did ,the Premier and the Attorney General make any effort during theiJr visit to financial centres in the United States and Canada to negotiate 1the sale of these particular securities? If so, what progress was made?

(32) To ask the honourable the Minister of Finance and/or the Minis­ ter of Economic Development to table the following information : 1. What amount of money has been advanced to the United Cotton Mills, Limited~ 2. Has the Company made any ef­ fort to sell the Bond Issue of some $2,000,000.00 guaranteed by the Gov­ ernment, under an agreement entered into last autumn and which was passed by the Legislature at its last session?

If the Company has not been success­ ful in selling this particulaT Bond Issue, did the Premier and the Attor­ ney General make any effort to negotiate the sale of such Bond Issue during their visit to the Mainland and the U.S.A. in January last? What progress was made in this respect? 3. Give a statement showing the amounts paid to individuals or Com­ panies for properties purchased by ej,ther the Government or European Companies for the purpose of estab­ lishing certain new industries in New­ foundland.

For instance, what price was paid for the Octagon property on the Topsail Road-the property for the Cotton Mill in St. John's West­ the property for the Oil-hardening Plant in Harbour Grace and any other properties purchased for the estab- lishment of new industries. Give full particulars regarding the purchase of such properties. 33. To ask the honourable the Min­ ister of Economic Development to table the following information : I.

The report submitted by the Rockefeller Organization known as IBEC, which report presumably covers a survey of Labrador areas and the possibility of establishment of another pulp and paper mill. 2. Inform the House what was the charge made by ,the Rockefeller Or­ ganization for conducting this particu­ la,r survey. 3. Table a statement showing the names of all personnel employed in the Department, whose services have been acquired in Europe. 4. Give the specific position each individual occupies, together with salary paid. 5. Was free transportation provided to bring these people .from Europe? 6.

A statement showing the total amount expended by the Department of the Premier as well as the Economic Development for travelling expenses from April !st, 1951, to February 29th, 1952-to whom the amounts were paid and what services were rendered in connection with such tmvelling. 7. What machinery and/or equip­ ment has been imported from Europe for the fiscal year 1951-52 to be used in the establishment of certain new industries sponsored by the Govern­ ment-the value of such machinery­ who inspected the machinery on be­ half of the Government? If no in­ spection was made, why not? 8.

Inform the House what work is being done by the firm of Coverdale

28 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 8c Colpitts on behalf of the Govern­ ment, and what arrangements have been made with that firm regarding payment of their fees, etc.? 9. What is the present position of the Newfoundland-Labrador Corpor­ ation? Has the Government subscribed its $900,000.00 for sha,res in >this Cor­ poration? Have HaTriman-Ripley & Co., as well as Wood, Gundy Co., and others subscribed its $100,000.00 for shares in the Corporation? What in­ vestigations or surveys has the Com­ pany conducted? Give all particulars regarding the activities of the Corpor­ ation up 'to the present time.

(34) MR. CASHIN : To ask the honourable the Minister of Finance to table the following information : l. Why has it been necessary to ap­ point Mr. James Thompson as Finan­ cial Adviser to the Government? 2. What are Mr. Thompson's specific duties? 3. What salary or fee is Mr. Thomp­ son being paid for his services as Financial Adviser? 4. Has Mr. Thompson been engaged as a permanent employee of the Gov­ ernment or on a part-time basis? Does Mr. Thompson stHI remain a partner in his auditing firm? 5.

Table a statement showing what amount of money has been paid to the firm of Peet, Marwick, Mitchell 8c Company or to Mr. James Thompson for services rendered the Newfound­ land Government since April 1st, 1949, to date. 6. Table a statement showing what amount of money was paid the firm of Peat, Marwick, Mitchell, 8c Com­ pany or Mr. James Thompson for services rendered the Newfoundland Delegation, which negotiated the Terms of Union with Newfoundland and Canada in 1948-49. Also table -the financial Budget and recommend­ ations supplied the Newfoundland delegation to Ottawa and prepared by Mr.

Thompson or his firm during the negotiations of Union of Newfound­ land with Canada. 7. In view of Mr. Thompson's ap­ pointment to this important position in the Government, it is to be assumed that Mr. Allen the Auditor General and Mr. Marshall, the Comptroller of the Treasury a,re not considered com­ petent by the present administration?

(35) MR. CASHIN : To ask the honoura,ble the Premier or the Minis­ -tel' of Finance to table the following information : 1. When Union with Canada was consummated on April 1st, 1949, did Mr. James Thompson suggest to the Government or to the Delegation that negotiated the Terms of Union a Budget showing -the estimated revenues and expenditures of Newfoundland as a Province of Canada? Would the Premier or Minister of Finance table such Budget for the information of the House? 2.

What have been the ,total ex­ penditures of the Province of New­ foundland both Current and Capital for the fisoal years 1949-50 and 1950- 51. Table a statement showing such expenditures for each fiscal year. 3. What have lbeen the total rev­ enues for each fiscal year 1949-50 and 1950-51? Table a statement showing such revenue. 4. Table a statement showing what amount of actual Cash has been taken from the Cash Surplus which was on hand on April 1st, 1949 from Ordinary

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 29 Current Account Expenditures and for Capital Expenditures. Also in­ form the House what is the actual Cash surplus remaining ,to the Credit of the Province at the present time?

(36) To ask the honourable the Minister of Economic Development and/or the appropriate Minister to table the following information : I. What has been the total cost to the Province of Newfoundland for the Campaign "to buy Newfoundland Products" instituted during the fiscal year 1950-5 l? 2. Give a detailed sta•tement of the amounts paid; to whom they were paid; what particular services were rendered for such payments? 3. Give the names of the individuals who had charge of this particular campaign; as well as the amounts paid to each individual for services rend­ ered in connection with ,the campaign. 4.

It is requested that this inform­ ation covering this particular inform­ ation is to be certified by the Auditor General or the Comptroller of the Treasury. Orders of the Day MR. SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker, I move that the House at its rising do adjourn until Tuesday, March 18, at 3:00 of the clock, by which Hme, M·r. Speaker, I would hope that my honourable friends opposite will be prepared to proceed with the debate on the Address in Reply, if by then the Address in Reply has been brought clown by the Committee appointed by Your Honour this afternoon. MR.

CASHIN : In seconding the motion to adjourn until Tuesday next I would say to the Premier that the Opposition will be prepared to go ahead with the Address in Reply just as quickly as possible and particularly on the receipt of answers to questions which we have tabled here this evening. MR. SPEAKER : Order-I must say the motion to adjourn does not require a seconder . MR. SMALLWOOD: May I say the Government does not propose to postpone the debate until all the questions have been answered. We will undertake they will be answered before the debate on the •budget. MR.

SPEAKER : The House will be governed by parliamentary rules pertaining thereto. House is adjourned until tomorrow, Tuesday, March 18 at 3:00 of the clock. TUESDAY, March 18, 1952. The House met at three of the clock in the afternoon pursuant to ad­ journment. HON. DR. H. L. POTTLE (Minis­ ter of Public Welfare) : Mr. Speaker, as the House is aware, beginning Jan­ uary 1st, of this year under proclam­ ation, the Government of Canada ac­ cepted entire responsiobility for old age pensions at the rate of $40.00 per month for all persons over the age of seventy years.

Prior to January 1st, the cost was Dominionally and Provin­ cially shared, and the annual cost to the Newfoundland Treasury was ap­ proximately $1,300,000. It is also known to the House effective January 1st, of •this year under Provincial Old Age Assistance . . . (This Dr. Pottle read from report tabled) .

30 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS HON. E. S. SPENCER (Minister of Public ,-vorks) : Mr. Speaker, I would like to lay on the table of the House regulations which have been made by the Department of Public Works under the Public Works Act, 1950. These regulations were brought into force and published on the first day of May 1951 by the Lieutenant Governor in Council. I also beg leave to lay on the table, another copy of regulations published under the Department of Publ,ic Works Aot, 1950, brought into effect on the 31st, of May, 1951. HON. G. J. POWER (Minister of Finance) : Mr.

Speaker, in accordance with the rules, I beg leave to table the Public Accounts of the year end­ ting March 31, 1950, together with the Auditor General's Report thereof. HON. S. J. HEFFERTON (Minister of Education) : Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to table the annual report of the Department of Education for the year ending March 31, 1951. Honour­ able members will find a copy of this report on their desks. HON. J. R. SMALLWOOD (Prime Minister) : Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to lay on the table of the House, a rep01,t on the establishment of a cement mill in Newfoundland.

Copies of this report have been prepared for all members of the House. I also have a report prepared on the estab­ lishment of a gypsum and gypsum wallboard plant in Newfoundland.

Copies of this too, are available for all members of the House, and copies of a report on the establishment of a machinery plant in Newfoundland of which also copies are available for all members of the House; copy of a re­ port of the establishment of a gyp­ board or pressboard industry in New­ foundland with copies for all members of the House, copy of a report on the establishment of a leather tannery in Newfoundland with copies fur all members of the House.

I may say two things about these reports; first that for the most part these reports were prepared many months ago for the Government and are now issued after some revision in the light of add1tional information gathered since the original editions were prepared for pres entation to the Government; secondly, that other re­ ports on industries are in course of preparation and will be tabled very soon in this House. Presenting Petitions MR. DROVER : Mr.

Speaker, I beg leave to present a petition .from the people of Baie-Verte and White Bay, signec.l by 1,450 persons requesting tha,t a road from Raie-Verte be linked with the Trans-C:anada High­ way. The people from Seal Cove, Conche, Western Arm and several places in Green Bay sig·ned the peti­ tion. At the present time, there is a snow-trail for about two miles of road, approximately eighteen more miles are to be built in connection with the Trans-Canada Highway.

Baie-Verte is a central spot and in summer time, people from wide areas can get in to Baie-Verte by boat and during the winter time by snowmobile trail. I have much pleas­ ure, Sir, in supporting this petition and ask that it be tabled in the House and referred to the proper au thori,ties. Mr. Speaker, I have another peti­ tion from the people of Quirpon, Noddy Bay, Carpon Cove, Cape Bauld, and other settlements. IL is signed by three hundred fishermen and they are requesting the Government, or asking the co-operation of the Gov­ ernment to build an up-to-date Salt

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 31 Fish Curing and Drying Plant at Quirpon. They also would like for Len years guarantee to pay back such a loan, and for the plant to be oper­ ated forthwith. I have pleasure in supporting •this petition and ask that it be tabled in the House and for­ warded to the department concerned. MR. SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker , I rise to support the prayer of the pet1t10n just presented from the people of Quirpon, and on that matter, it might be well if I put on the record the facts of the case today.

There is already at Quirpon, as my honourable friend knows, such a plant as that mentioned in the petition. It was built there last year -by means of a loan granted by the Fisheries De­ velopment Loan Board made to three private business men. That decision was taken as a result of numerous conferences in my office between the three businessmen in qu estion , the Minister and Deputy Minister of Fisheries, and the Deputy Minister of Co-operatives, and certain delegates to the fishermen's convention and, I be­ lieve, the honourable member for Whi-te Bay.

The undertaking on the part of these businessmen was this : In return for a loan from the loan board, they would build and operate a plant in Quirpon and when the fishermen there were properly or­ ganized into a co-operative association and properly trained in the principles of that organizaotion for which pur­ pose a field worker was to go there and did go there to organize the fish­ ermen and conduct study clubs, then -the businessmen would pass the plant over to the fishermen's organization to ·be opera•ted on a co-operative basis .

Now my honourable friend, the member for W·hite Bay, is perfectly familiar with all this and it is not for his benefit I say it, but rather to get it on the record that othe businessmen in question undertook to pass the plant over at cost to the co-operative association, if and when such an or­ ganization came into existence, and could be approved by the Co-operative Department.

I have no doubt what­ soever that the three businessmen in question will do as they undertook to do as soon as conditions have been met, so that in fact, there will be no need for the fishermen in Quirpon .to build yet another fish plant, there is a fish plant already there for them the moment they are ready to take over and operate in their own interest. This is the deal that was made, but with the general sentiment of the petition I must, of course, express complete agreement and suppol't its prayer. MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of privilege.

Since the last sitting of this House, Sir, we have lost a man who represented Harbour Main-Bell Island District on this side of the House, in the person of Ron Fahey. If it is in order, Sir, I would like •to move a resolution that this House would record its sympathy and send a message of condolence to his wife and family. MR. CASHIN : Mr. Speaker, I rise for the purpose of seconding the motion made by the honourable mem­ ber for Harbour Main-Bell Island in respect of the death of the late Mr. Fahey who died last week. He has ·been very ill for the last year, and he passed away and was interred on Saoturday last.

I have great regrets really in supporting this resolution asking that the House forward the usual motion of condolence to the family of Mr. Fahey. MR: SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker, I had intended to move that motion

32 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS myself before the Orders of the Day were called and I suppO'l't the motion moved by the honourable gentleman with real sincerity. The late Mr. Fahey was regarded with affection by all members of the House, on both sides of it. We were all indeed sorry that the state of his health prevented him from •taking

part in the recent general election, and thereby de­ priving himself a seat, probably in the present general assembly. Mr. Fahey, I bave heard the deputy­ speaker of the last general assembly, and I have heard you, Sir, say adapted himself to the procedure and rules of the House more rapidly and probably more readily than did any other new member of the last General Assembly. He had not an evil bone in his body, he was perfectly decent, perfectly frank, perfectly fair, perfectly friendly.

He was a man you just could not help liking, and it was with great regret indeed, with real sorrow I think that all of us ,who were here last time heard of his sickness and finally of his death. It was for me personally a matter of very great :regret that on Saturday I found myself una•ble to aottend Mr. Fahey's funeral.

I left a Cabinet meeting at 1:30 p.m. on Saturday with the intention of getting a quick bite to eat and getting on to the funeral, forgetting completely that General WhdHen had already made an appointment to come to my office at 2:30, and other people from out of town, who had made appointments and I just could not leave and I was genuinely sorry I could not pay my last respects to an old friend, who was a friend of mine many long years be­ fore this House of Assembly elected us three years ago.

I think I speak for everyone in the House as did the honourable Leader of the Opposition and the mover of the motion, when I say we are all extremely sorry in the death of Ron Fahey, and all of us here today support the motion to ex­ tend condolence to his family. MR. FOGWILL : Mr. Speaker, in supporting the motion that this House send expressions of sympathy to the family of the late Ronald J. Fahey, I think, Sir, that I have known Mr. Fahey for a longer period and have been more clos!!ly in touch with him than anyone else in this House.

I have known Ron Fahey for the last quarter of a century, and to know Ron Fahey and know him well, as I did, to know of his work on behalf of his fellow workers in the trade unions and to know of his courage and deter­ mination in anything he undertook to clo along with his fellow workers, and to know him as I did know him, as a friend, I say, Si·r, that the community has lost a good citizen and this House has lost a good member. Thank you. Resolution that a letter of sympathy and condolence be forwarded to the widow of the late Ronald J. Fahey adopted. MR. MORGAN : Mr.

Speaker, I beg leave to present a ·petition signed hy the residents of Baie-Ve11te in the district of White Bay, Middle Arm, South Brook, Little Bay, etc., in the district of Green Bay praying that a road ,be constructed joining Burlington to the Baie-Verte Road. iln the Fall of 1950 some work was done on this road, but since that time nothing has been done. The road is being used hy practically all the residents of the North side of Green Bay, as it is their only connection to the Bowater logging camps at Baie-Verte.

In addition to that, there is a hospital at Baie-Verte and it happens quite often that urgenit cases have to be taken over this road. At the same

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 33 time, I !>hould also like to support the petition just presented by the honourable member for White Bay as this Burlington Road would connect with Baiie-Verte and so on to the Trans-Canada Highway. I have great pleasure in supporting this petition and move it be placed on the table of this House and referred to the Department concerned . MR. BROWN : M r. Speaker, I beg leave to present to this House a petition signed by twenty-nine resi­ dents of Birchy Cove in the district of Bonavista South, -requesting •that a school be built.

They request that this building be erected at that place at the earliest possible opportunity. There are thiry-five children iin the community, twenty of whom are of school age, and they are presently attending school at Newman's Cove, a little over a mile distant. The road between the settlements skirts the shoreline. It is open to the ,broad Atlantic and travel at the best of times is hazardous and dangerous. As a consequence the children are unable to attend school on many ocoasions .

The residents of the community are prepared to contribute on a fifty-fifty basis toward the erection of the school and I have much pleasure in support­ ing their demand and I request that the petition be tabled in rhe House and referred to the Department of Education concerned. Presenting Reports of Standing and Select Committees None. MR. SPEAKER : Motion is that the Address in Reply be adopted. MR. SMALLWOOD: I move the de bate be adjourned to a later hour this day. DR.

POTTLE : I beg leave to lay on the table of the House gazetted copies of regulations being the Blind Persons' Allowance Provisions, under the provisions of the Blind Persons' Allowance Act, 1951. MR. SMALL WOOD : Mr. Speaker, before you come to the Orders of the Day, I should like to call the attention of the House to rhe newest gifts re­ ceived by us from sister provinces of Canada. Since the las,t General Assem­ bly, a very beautiful table has been received as the gift of the Province and Legislature of Quebec.

It was made in the Provincial Handicraft Centre of Quebec, by hand, and is, I should think, a very fine example of Quebec handicraft. The top of the table has set into it in brass the crest of Newfoundland and on the end there is another plaque stating the fact that it is the gift of the Province of Quebec to the Legislature of New­ foundland. A,t the time that the Premier of Quebec suggested to me that his Province, his Government, his Administration of the Government would like to make a gift to New­ foundland the Premier of New Bruns­ wick was present.

He too declared the eagerness of New Brunswick to make a gift to the Legislature of Newfoundland and so it was arranged between them, Premier Duplessis and Premier McNair, to exchange de­ signs so that New Brunswick would make a set of chairs that would blend into the design of the treasury table. The chairs, two of which are in the Chamber at the moment, one occupied by the Clerk of the House, and the other, in rhe corner yonder, the third being out of the Chamber, are ,the gift of the Province and Legislature of New Brunswick.

Unfortunately, it appears that the measurement! of the table must have ,been a little astray

34 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS because instead of being a bit nar­ rower than the one it -replaces, it ap­ pears to be even a little wider leaving even less room than there was before for ,the passage of members between the Chair on dther side and rhe front desk, and so with great regret it has appeared necessary not to use these chairs on the side of the Treasury Table. Mr.

Speaker, I don't know if it is Jin order at th-is stage to make a 111oliu11 lo the e££ect that this Legis­ lature express to the Provinces and Governments and Legislatures of Que­ bec and New Brunswick its deep ap­ preciation of their brotherly feeling towards us in making these gifts. If that is in order, I would so move and if not I would so move on another more suitable occasion. There is left now in all of Canada only one Prov­ ince that has not made a gift co chis House , and tha•t is the Province of Nova Scotia.

That is an omission for which Nova Scotia cannot be blamed, as the Premier of that Province has already asked me wha•t I thought would ,be a suitable gift from his Province and the Legislature of Nova Scotia. As soon as we can find a suitable object for the House, I will be happy indeed to sug·gest to Mr. McDonald the Premier of Nova Scotia what would make an acceptable gift for this Chamber.

The clock is the gift of Manitoba, the beautiful sword of the Sergeant a,t Arms is the gift of the Province of Saskatchewan, the in­ comparably beautiful mace is the gift of ,the Province of British Columbia, the very beautiful throne or chair for Mr. Speaker, was handoarved in On­ tario and is the gift of -the Province and Legislature of Ontario. The gavel is -the gift of Prince Edward Island, the table of Quebec, the chairs of New Brunswick, and soon, I hope lhat all the Provinces of Canada will be represented physically here in this Chamber of ours. Could you advise me, Mr.

Speaker, if it is in order for me ,to move that at this stage. MR. SPEAKER : T'he motion is quite in order. MR. SMALLVl'OOD: I do so move and if it could be a motion of the whole House, which Mr.

Speaker would convey •to the honoura -ble Premier of Quebec and the honourable Speaker of the Legislature of Quebec and to the honourable Premier and the hon­ ourable Speaker of the Legislature of New Brunswick in warmest possible tones, an expression of the appreciation of the Legislature of Britain's oldest Colony, Newfoundland, the newest Province, for ~heir great kindness and brotherly feelings towards us which we hope ~vi!! continue.

I would no,.., sug·­ gesl this be added to the resolu,tions or the letter conveying our appreci­ ation, more especially lo ·these two Provinces which lie physically closest to the Province of. Newfoundland. MR. CASHIN : I have great pleas­ ure in seconding that motion, awl I don't think there is any necessity for me to comment at -this time in con­ nection with these gi.fts from the various Provinces of th e Dominion. I have grea-t pleasur e in seconding the resolution. MR. JACKMAN : Mr. Speaker, I loo, support the moti ·on in one part, and one part only .

I am prepared, Sir, to thank the Premier of New Brunswick for his gift to this House, but as far as I am concerned, I am not prepared to -thank the Premier Duplessis unless first of all he will agree to the boundary which was set down 1na.ny years ago by 1"-lc,v.found­ land. DR. POTTLE : Mr. Speaker, I pre­ sume that similar acknowledgements

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 35 have gone to other Provinces for their Honourable the Minister of Public respective gifts? Welfare asks leave to introduce a Bill, MR. SPEAKER: Yes. Giving Notice of Motions and Questions Mr. Cashin and Mr. Hollet!t give notice of questions on tomorrow. Honourable the Premier asks leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act to Amend the Fire Patrol Act, 1948." Bill read a first ,time, ordered read a second time on tomorrow.

Honourable the Premier asks leave -to introduce a Bill, "An Act to Amend the Timber License (Revision to Crown) Act, 1951." Bill read a first time, ordered read a second time on tomorrow. Honourable the Aaorney General asks leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act Further to Amend

Chapter 125 of the Consolidated Statutes (Third Series) entitled 'Of Trustees.' " Bill read a first ·time, ordered read a sec­ ond time on tomorrow. Honourable the Attorney General asks leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act Further to Amend the Newfound­ land Corporation Income Tax Act, 1949.'' Bill read a first time, ordered read a second time on ,tomorrow. Honourable the Minister of Supply asks leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act Relating to the Designation of Certain Local Government Officials.'' Bill read a first time, ordered -read a second ,time on tomorrow.

Honourable the Minister of Supply asks leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act to Amend the Local Government (Elections) Act, 1951." Bill read a first time, ordered read a second time on tomorrow. "An Act Further to Amend the Public Welfare Act, 1949.'' Bill read a first time, ordered read a second time on tomorrow. Notice of Question MR. SPEAKER : Questions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. MR. SMALLWOOD: Mr. Speaker, the property at the Octagon on which the Machine Plant is being constructed we purchased from the Spurrell Estate for $50,000.

The factory is proposed to be built in successive stages the first stage of which is presently in process of being realized with con­ struction of a warehouse and personnel barracks, both of which have been completed and a large factory build­ ing is now be-ing built. By September 30th, 1952, the first stage of the plarrt should be completed; production, how­ ever, can start even ,before com­ pletion, namely in June 1952. Description tabled. Question 1.

(3) Description . of type of machinery tabled.

(4) The survey was made by the owners of the plant on Lhe Continent of Canada and the United States of America. It cost the Government nothing, they did not make the sur­ vey, and we do not propose to have it ,ta,bled.

(5) Five hundred men will be em­ ployed in this plant from the first stage of the plant, the stage presently in process of being realized.

(6) Their expectation is to employ some thirty skilled men who will be brought in from the Continent of Europe, thirty Germans out of five hundred, four hundred and seventy

36 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS will be Newfoundlanders in New­ foundland or out of Newfoundland, if they are not to be in Newfoundland, and if not in or out then other Can­ adians will be employed, but only up to ~he limit ,that Newfoundlanders cannot be gotten. Four hundred and seventy in the first stage of develop­ ment will be Newfoundlanders. Four hundred and seventy out of the first five hundred.

(8) In respect to ,the proposal to set up vocational training schools there will be no cost whatsoever to the Government. The training will be carried on by the company which is erecting as part of the plant a vocational training school. How long exactly each worker will be trained I am afraid I don't know. I do know, however, that apprentices beginning from scratch will require much longer than men or older persons with some skill to begin with. This I do know that in every case where a complete case of training is offered and received by a worker, that worker is expected to undertake to work with the plant for a minimum of two years. Question No. 2.

(1) The proposed Textile Plant is to be located exactly at the corner of James' Lane and Blackmarsh Road.

(2) The si-te consisting of twenty acres purchased for $37,500 from Thomas James and the Cowan Estate.

(3) There will be eight hundred employees, sixty percent male, forty percent female, five percent European. Ninety-five percent Newfoundlanders. There are to be eight buildings, the main one .five hundred feet by seven hundred and fifty Feet. There will be two hundred and twenty-five looms and five thousand spindles manufac­ turing one million feet of cotton yarn and four million yards of cotton fabric. The products of the plant to be sold wherever the company can find sales. It is expected to be very largely in Canada, which includes Newfoundland.

(4) This I have already answered. Question No. 3. First I have pleasure in ,tabling the report of the Power Corpora,tion of Canada on their investigation into the Bay D'Espoir Watersheds. The report shows that there can be developed there, two hundred and eighty ,thou­ sand horsepower at one hundred and eighty-two dollars per horsepower. One thousand million working hours at 0.46c. per killowatt. That is almost half a cent. The total cost including the cost of installation is fifty-one million dollars. The cost to the Gov­ ernment. of having the survey made is $386,414.15. MR.

CASHIN : Did the honour­ able the Premier table the cost? MR. SMALL WOOD : All the in­ formation I ·have given is contained in the report with exception only of the work done for us by •the Power Corporation of Canada. That is not in the report, obviously. MR. FOGWILL : With respect to a question just answered by the hon­ ourable Premier-No. 2 of tha,t ques­ tion asks : What amount has been paid to date to the Corporation? MR. SMALLWOOD: I just gave that. $386,414.15. It has been paid. Question No. 4. MR. SPENCER : Mr. Speaker, the answer t.o No. 4 is in course of pre­ paration. Question No. 5.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 37 HON. P. S. FORSEY (Minister of Supply) : Mr. Speaker, I have part of the answer to number 5. (1). Answer tabled as follows : The following is a list of the firms with whom Orders for Advertising were placed during the period 1st. April, 1951 to 29th.

February, 1952, showing the amount paid to each firm and the ,total amount expended for advertising during that period : LOCAL FIRMS : Daily News ............. .................. $ 5.935.16 Evening Telegram .................. 6,144.62 Sunday Herald .... .. .................... 2,096.40 Newfoundland Gazet-te .......... 9,072.87 Fishermen's Advocate ............ 217 .80 Grand Falls Advertiser .......... 958.25 Western Star ............................ 1,740.62 Nfld.

Journal of Commerce .... 288.75 Cap & Gown (Memorial University) ........ ................... 18.00 Observers Weekly .................... 12.60 The Newfoundlander ............ 28.50 Local Firms ............................ $26.453.57 FOREIGN FIRMS : Maritime Advocate ................. S Canadian Medical Association Canadian Journal of Public Health .- ............................... . Sydney Post Record ............. .. Canadian Medical Association Journal ............. _ .................. . Halifax Herald ...................... .. St. John Telegraph·Journal.. Atlantic Guardian ................. .

Financial Post .................. ..... .. Canadian Dietetic Journal ... Globe & Mail ... _ ..................... .. Halifax Chronicle ................... .. Roads Engineering Construction ... - ... ,_ ........... .. Guardian Press ...................... .. Nova Scotia Agricultural College .... ............................. .. 162.00 183.26 20.00 46.54 37.73 187 .17 18.20 60.00 1,301.00 10.00 314.30 30.00 60.00 275.00 20.00 Canadian Association of French Speaking Education Financial Times .......... , ........ .. . Times Globe & Telegraph .. ..

Journal of the Canadian Association of Medical Students ............. ................. . Canada Gazet-te ..................... . The Postal Tribune ............ .. The Montreal Star ............... . Canadian Nurse .................... .. The Toronto Star ................ .. Fmeign Firms ......................... . $ 25.00 600.00 65.20 30.25 51.60 75.00 64.60 15.00 16.20 3,668.05 TOTAL .................................... $30,121.62 MR. HOLLETT: Mr.

Speaker , may I ask-a point or ord er- I am just a newcomer, I notice a question before the House asking the Minister to table this information, does -that mean he has to read 1it all out? I would like a decision on ·that , Sir. MR. SPEAKER : I would say in this respect, questions should be as short as possible and answers as brief as possible. However, it is impossible to confine Ministers to length of answers and it has been •the custom followed here that replies to almost every question except a very long one has been read and also tabled. MR.

SMALLWOOD: I may say the Government reserves the right to table the answers in writing or verbally as and when it pleases. MR. HOLLETT : Mr. Speaker, may I ask on what that reservabion is based. on what rule? The Premier said ~e reserved the right to answer, the Gov• ernment res erves the right, on what rule is that based ? MR. SPEAKER : I am afraid the Chair cannot answer. If it is a de• bate as to whether -the questions should be tabled and read, the custom here -is for Ministers to read and

38 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS table the answers. That is the course followed. As for what reservations the Government might make and whether it is based on parliamentary procedure.-In the present instance we are following procedure we have fol­ lowed for a number of years. MR. FORSEY : Mr.

Speaker, I am quite prepared to table the inform­ ation as far as I am concerned it is in Supply, if his statement amounts to this; anything anyone wants •to know in this House about any pr-ices the Government business is there ready for any member to see, all the requis­ itions made, all the contracts awarded, all the tenders submitted? MR. FORSEY: That is correct, Mr. Speaker. rather wearysome reading answers. I MR . CASHTN : That is not the am just about to the end of this, point. As I see it, an honourable Mr. Speaker, I have the answer to No. 5 (5) which I beg leave ,to table.

I have •the lists of ham and bacon for each month and, Mr. Speaker, I might say these questions were comparatively easy to schedule, but the other ques­ tions here for drugs and medicines and dry goods are not easy. It will involve ithe investigation of some thousands of tenders and I believe it would be necessary to have some of our staff back at nights to do the work and it would result in a cost to the Treasury. So, if the honourable member for St. John's East is agree­ able, I would suggest, Mr.

Speaker, that a Committee of the House be appointed to investigate on the spot in the Department of Supply these various tenders. We will have all the requisitions and correspondence and tenders relating ,to the drugs, medicines and hospi•tal equipment there for their investigation and I would ap­ point two of the senior officials of the Department to be there to give answers and/or help, and information they want and at their convenience, ei-ther morning, afternoon, or night. I think that would be much ,better.­ Any question on any subject? MR.

SMALL WOOD : May I ask the honourable Minister, my colleague, member on this side, or on either side for that matter, asks a question, and whilst it is realized sometimes, it is difficult to get information quickiy and sometimes it is most difficult to dig out from the accounts specific in­ formation, at the same •time when asked in the House, if they are going to hP ;in.1;wered1 members should not have to run back and forth to the various departments to see the ten­ ders and what prices have been paid. MR.

SPEAKER : On •the other hand, the Chair must remind honour­ able members a question is not pro­ perly in order if the answer is avail­ able to the general public. Further­ more, whilst almost any question within reason may be asked no hon­ ourable member may insist on an answer or the form of answer.

There­ fore, if the honourable Minister de­ cides to answer ques-tions No. 5 by making all the data and information available to •the inquciring member or a committee of the House, the1·e is no recourse to take, but to take that as an answer ,to the questions if the hon­ ourable members of the House decide to avail -themselves of the opportunity or not would be for themselves to de­ cide.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 39 Question No. 5 tabled as follows : The following sta'lement shows the total number pounds of Ham and Bacon supplied ovemment ln titulions fur the period 1st, April 1951, to 29th, February, 1952, ,together with the names of suppliers, brands and the price per pound: Total number of pounds of Ham and Bacon supplied Government Insti,tu tions : Ham 32,034 lbs.

Supplier of Ham Supplier of Bacon Months April, 1951 May June July August September October Novem1ber December January, 1952 February March Months April, 1951 May June July August September October November December January, 1952 February March Chalker & Co. Ltd. Peter Pan Sales Co. Chalker &: Co. Ltd. Peter Pan Sales Go. HAM Supplier Chalker &: Co. Ltd. Peter Pan Sales Co. Ohalker &: Co. Ltd. BACON Supplier Chalker &: Co. Ltd. Peter Pan Sales Go. Chalker &: Co. Ltd. Peter Pan Sales Co. Chalker &: Co. Ltd. Peter Pan Sales Co. Bacon 36,760 lbs. 26,744 lbs. 5,290 1bs. 29,410 lbs. 7,350 lbs.

Price Each Month 70c. per 1b. 69c. 69c. " 70c. " 71c. " 71c. 69c. " 67c. " " 66c. " 63c. " 63c. " 60c. " Price Each Month 60c. per lb. 56c. 57c. " 60c. " 60c. 65c. " 65c. " 60c. " 68c. " 58c. " 11 49c. 44c. "

40 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS MR. SPEAKER : Question No 6. MR. SPENCER: Mr. Speaker, in reply to question No. 6, Order Paper March 18th, 6

(1) Alterations are be­ ing made to the •house recently oc­ cupied by the Chief of Police for adoption for use as office building. Some additional windows have been fns-talled to provide additional light and minor operations to change the arrangement of the home; new light­ ing and a new heating plant as the existing installations are old and un­ suitable. 6

(2) The plumbing, heating and wood work and electric work, plumbing heating and wood work done by Wililam Tiller, electric work, Joseph Ashley, painting, Mr. R. J. Green, and all other work was done by the staff of the Public Works Department. 6

(3) Tenders were invited on plumbing and heating work from the only two local firms with staffs large enough to ·handle the job with dis­ patch and having on hand the neces­ sary materials to perform •the work, the lower tender was accepted. Owing to the nature of the work involved to make alteraitions to the existing build­ ing, it was not possible ,to determine [n advance the extent of the work to be done in electrical and painting and the trade smen named before were en­ gaged on a day's work basis. 6

(4) The building is to be rented to the Newfoundland Labrador Cor­ poration for offices. There is one bed-livingroom. MR. SPEAKER: Question No. 7. Question 7 (I), (2), (3), the answer is no. MR. SPEAKER : Qn~~,tion No. 8. MR. POWER: This requires clari­ fication. 'If the honourable member will submit the question in greater clarity, the matter will receive a<tten­ tion . MR. SPEAKER: Question No. 9. MR. SMALLWOOD : 9.

(1) No appointment has been re­ quested nor made under the provisions of

Section 5, sub. sec. (4) of the Gov­ ernment Seigheim (Agreement) Act, 1951.

(2) I have received no information and therefore , cannot answer this question.

(3) Dr. Seigheim was not represent­ ed by any lawyer or law firm when his agreement with the Government was negotiated. I know nothing of any negotiations with the RCAF and the Canadian National Telegraphs.

(4) I have received no information and, therefore, cannot answer this question. I would like to add that the Government has had no dealing s with any Dr. Seigheim from Eastern Ger­ many. MR. SPEAKER Question No. 10. MR. S'MALLWOOD: I would like to preface my answer first by saying with great emphasis what my honour­ able colleague has just said. We have no knowledge of any Dr. Seigheim from Eastern Germany, and have nothing to do whatsoever with any Dr. Seigheim from Eastern Germany. 10. (

I) It is in the Attorney Gen­ eral's Office, and I have asked my secretary to have it sent up here to me.

(2) No RCAF plane was used to in­ tercept, he was not intercept ed, no Germ~n or anyone else ·went to Gan ­ der to intercept Dr. Sennewald, there­ fore, there was no cost to the New­ foundland Treasury for the intercep-

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 41 tion of Dr. Sennewald at Gander which did not occur.

(3) I would suggest an enquiry dir­ ect to the German firm of Krupps which might, or might not ascertain whether or not they are intereste