OF THE ouse o ssem DURING THE . . THIRD SESSION • OF THE r-r wenty-seventh General Assembly OF Newfoundland 1931. lVIANNING & RABBITTS,. Printers, Prescott Street, St. Jo1hn's, Newfoundland, 1931. •

PROCEEDINGS OF THE House of Assembly during the Third Session of the Twenty-seventh General Assembly Begun and holden at St. John's, in the said Dominion on W ednesda)' the Eleventh Day of March, Anno Domini, Nineteen Hundred and Thirty-One being in the twenty-first Year of the Reign of • His Majesty, Our Sovereign Lord, George, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and of tlie British Dominions beyond the Seas, King Def ender of the F aitli, Empe1~or of India. • WEDNESDAY, March 11th, 1931. and the House in th· e Legislative C·oun,cil Cham 1ber.

His Excellen ·cy the GoV1er1I1-0r, having fixed the h1our at which ·he prop 1osed to open thi e present Session o.f fue Legisl'atu ,re at thr·ee o'·clock in· the a·fternoon of this Wedn ,esday, tlhe eleventh day of Mrurch, the ·Mem·bers of the House 1 01f .Ass·em bly m1et in the Assembly Rooims at a qiuiarter to three in the afternoo 1n. , when Mr. Spea1ker to·ok thi e Chai1r. At three o.f the clo1ck · a messa ·ge ilrom His Exc·ellen rcy the 1 Gover .nor was delivered by t:he Gen1tlem 1 an Uslher of the Black Rod, 1comm :an1di1111 g the im- 1nedi1ate atten 1 dance of Mr. Speruker Whereui>o · n Mr.

Speake 1 r and the Hou.se atten ided His Excelle 1ncy in the C·ou·nc11 ·Chamber; anid b·ein1 g returned to th. e Assembly Roo1m Mtr. Speaker in'fo1 r·med th· e House that, wihen iln at- te· nldance upon His E1xcellen ·cy the 1Go1V ·erno · r in tlhe C;ou· n·cil Ch,amber, His Excellency 'had ·be1en ple·ased to make a ~raieii ous S.peech rto b·oth. Br·an1ches of .the Legi1sl1ature, a c·opy of which f1o• r greater accur \acy he had obtaine 1d an1d then read to th· e House, as fo,1- lows:

4 HOUSE OF ASSE1\1BLY PROCEEDINGS SPEECH of His Excellency Sir John Middleton, Knight Comn1ander of tl1e Most Ex· cellent Order of the British Empire, Companio11 of the Most Disting11ish­ ed Order of St. Michael and St. George, Governor and Comn1ander­ in-Chief in and Over the Colony of Newfoundland, at the ope11ing of the T~ird Session of the Twenty-Seventh General Assembly of Newfoundland, begun a11d holden at St. John's, l\r ednesday, Ma1·ch 11, 1931. Mr. President and Honorable Members of the Legislative Co11ncil: ~Ir.

Speaker and Members of the Hon- 01·able House of Assembly: It gives me gre·at pleasure to greet you at the opening of the Third Ses­ sion of the present General Assembly. In the e·arly days of this year it was my . sad duty, on behalf of my Minis­ ters and the pe,op'le of Newfoundland, to present inost respectful and heart­ felt syr11pathy to Their M:ajesties the King and Queen on the death of her -late Royal Highness the Princess Royal. A gracious message of thanks was recei'ved from Their Majesties.

The effect of the world '"'ride depres­ sion that exists was shown in the low . price received in the market for our staple product. This fact, together with a sn1alJ shortage in the catch, re­ dt1ced the purchasing power of our people by a very considerable sum­ one sufficiently la~ ge to affect appreci­ ablj1 the general . business of the country. On tl1e other hand the ex­ porta .tion of salmon, smelts, cod and other fish in cold stora .ge has made ina.rked progress.

Attention to the cure of the salted codfish. standard­ ization cf quality \vhen exported. and development of Lhe cold storage n1ethod appear to be the points of . greatest value in dealing with our fishery products. During the fiscal year . which ended last June the exports of pulp and paper showed an increase of 32,000 tons, and an increased value of over $1,000,000.

For the same period, with the increased production at Bucl1ans. tl1ere sho,ved an in·creased export of 360,000 tons of minerals with an in­ creased value of three and a quarter million rloll~rR For thP l::l . ~t fo11~ fl~- cal years the total val11e of the ex- . ports exceeded that of the imports. In the fiscal year 1926-27 the excess of exports over imports was more than $5,000.000; in the following fiscal year the excess was over $6.000.000: in the next vear it wa.s over $7.500.000. anrl ~ in the year ending June, 1930. it was over $8,000,000.

These figures show the progress t11at is being · ma.de in the development of the Colony's resources. T'\venty yea.rs ago the fishery products constituted 90% of our exports. w:1ile in the last fisca.l year the value · of 011r fisher~' products did 11ot amo11nt to 50% of the value of 011r exports. While the loR!=l to ·our people, th rough the stortage in the catch a.nd the very low price re­ ceived for our codfish in the markets. has been considerable. it iR not felt in the same degree as wo11ld have been the case twenty years ago.

There has been so·n1e distress in the co,untry, for which my Ministers have had to provide. but 011r people have been able to secure employment in c,onnection with the various develop­ ment ·schemes that a.re in progress. an·d, providing for the necessities of their families in this way. the expend­ iture by the Government of large sums in relief has been ohvia .ted to a grea. t extent. The a.ctual facts "rould seem to indicate tha.t our people are not suf­ fering as are many in other countries.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 5 The co-operation of the Empire l\1arketing Board of London with the Government of this Colony, as ar­ ranged by my Prime Minister, having for its object an extended researcQ in connection with our fishery problems. is actively continuing. We had the adva .ntage last summer of the expert opinion of Dr. Ha.rold Thompson, of the Fishery Board for Scotland, and under his advice and guidance steps are being ta.ken that. in the course of time. will rF~ult in a greater know­ ledge of 011r fisheries and a more in­ telligent exploitation of the enormous values therein contained.

The re-railing of the line of railway has now been completed with heavier rails from St. Joh n's to Port aux Basques. ensuring greater regularity and increased comfort in the operation of this Service. . The erection of the l\Iachine Sl1ur> at the Dry Dock is now proceeding, ·and the installation of up­ t o--date n1achinery will ena.ble the Dr'' Dock to 11a:1dle effectively the repairs of a.ny disa"Jlf d ships that visit tl1is nort. It is n·ot anticipated that any further capital expenditure will be re­ quired by the Railway or the Dry Dock during the present year.

In the Autumn of last year my Prime Minister had the privilege of meeting the l\1inisters of the Home- 1 and, and the Prime Mi11isters fro 1m t.be other Dominions at the Imperial Conference held in London. Constitu­ tional and economic questions of grave importance affectin · g the whole Empire passed under review. The genius of the British race in Govern­ ment is shown in their powers of adaptability to circumstances as they 'l.rise.

The discussion of the intricate . ~, n·d often vexatious problen1 .j, the meeting of Ministers face to f}ace !:l.round the Conference Board, and the n1ore intimate realization of the dif­ ficulties confronting the respective Domi11ions of this great Empire will tend to a larger sympathy between the co1nponent members of the Empire, and lay foundation stones up· o· n which will be builded a greater and more tasting structure. It gives me pleasure to state that this Dominio · n was hon­ oured when His Majesty the King ap­ poi11ted the Prime Minister as a Mem­ ber of IIis Majesty's Privy Council. 1111·.

Stleaker and Members of the Hon­ orable House of Assembly: I am pleased to be in a position to inform you that · for the fisc.al year ending last ~une tl1e revenue exceeded the expenditure by a substantial sum. The figures in this connection will be lai 1 d before you in· due course. The estimates of expenditures and the B11dget for the next fiscal yeiar \vill be submitted to you. It is als· o proposed to submit a Loan Bill pro­ viding for the liquidation of the Eng­ lish War Loan, and for certain capital expenditures of the Public Service. 1\'f r.

President a.nd Honorable lllembers of the Legislative Council: ~Tr. S1leal\:er and Members of the Hon. ora.ble Ho11se of Assembly: In common · with the other parts of the Empire it is proposed to take a Census of tl1e people of this Dominion in the latter part of the present year. Preparation is now being m.ade for this work. and an amot1nt to meet the expenses that will be incurred in this connection during next fiscal year, has been placed in the Estimates.

In opening the Session of last year, T informed you that claim had been made ltpon my Ministers for the pay­ ment of interest under the guarantee as set forth in the Newfoundland Hotel Facilities Limited Acts of 1925 and

' 6 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 1926. I regret now to inform you that the said Hotel Facilities Limited is in course of liquidation, a Receiver has been appointed, and under the above qunted Acts my Ministers are respon­ sible for the payment of the principal and interest in respect of the Bonds which were guar ,anteed. Provision to meet this liability was made in the Loan Act of last year. My Ministers have made every effort possible to pre­ vent collapse of this enterprise, and they will continue to safeguard to the utmost the interests of this Colony in respect of this Hotel undertaking.

In view of the recognition at the re­ cent Imperial Conference of the status of Newfoundlan i d as a, sielf-g ·overning Dominion within the British Empire, and in view of the fact that it will in future be necessary fo1r Newfoundland Government Vessels and t:·e New­ foundland Mercantile Marine to wear at sea c·olours recognized by law and listinct from those of the United King­ dom and of the other Dominions, my l\'Iinisters will place before you a Bill for giving statutory recogn~tion for tb ese purp .oses to the accustomed flags worn by British ships of these classes with the addition of the his­ toric distinguishing badge of New-, foundland.

The flags with this badge, Norn in the past under Admiralty war­ rant by our ships as part of tbe gen­ eral shipping of the British Empire, will here ,after be worn by virtue of our own Statute as the flags of the distinct Official and Mercantile l\iarine of Newfoundland.

One of the outstanding needs of the n . 01minion for many years i.,ast has been a properly O 'rganized system for the c,are of Public Health and for the administration of the Public Charities and Charitable Institutions, and the establishment of such a system cannot but have the effect of increasing the efficiency of the public service in these respects, while ensuring a greater de­ gree of C1 0-ordinatio~ and economy than has hitherto been obtained There will, therefore, be placed before you a Bill, which has been drafted with the assistance of compete :nt professional opinion. both legal and medical.

My Ministers have long had under consideration the necessity of Legis­ lation to protect the people of the Dominion in respect to the sale of bonds and securities of fraudulent or doubtful character, and the necessity for this has been sharply emphasized by some of the unfortunate events, b·oth in this and other countries, dur­ ing the past two years.

There has, therefore, been drafted a Bill, follow­ ing the lines of the legislation lately introduced, or in process of introduc­ tion, in the va.rious Provinces of the neighbouring Dominion of Cana.da, which Bill it is h1oped will go far to ensure that our people shall have the necessary protectio , n in these reE!pects. During the past six years t~.e,..e has been adopted throughout the Provin­ ces of Canada, with tbe exception of Quebec.

an Act known as the Uniform Life Insurance Act, for renderi:cg uni­ for · m the law in relation to Life Insur­ ance thru ·out that country. The greater part of the life tnsurance business in this Dominio · n is carried on by Can­ adian Companies, whose policies and other documents are drawn up h.aving in view the Uniform Act. There \Vill . be placed before you a Bill brin .gi1ng our law in relation to life insur·ance int, o uniformity with that of th2 Pro­ vinces of our sister Dominion. My Ministers pr·opose to submit for your information the text of a pro·pos­ al mad· e by Mr. Ala'n S.

Butler to the Government in relation to the Gander timber areas and water p·owers. I feel sure that y· o· u will give to all measures subn~itted to you that earn-

- HOUSE . OF AS1SEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 7 est ·thou ight that will result in benefici­ al legislation, and. I trust the Almighty maY guide your counsels for the pro­ motion of the best interes-ts of the Country. HON. THE PRIME llIINISTER-Mr. Speaker, before we 'proceed with the regular business, I would ask your permission and the permission of thB members of this !Qh!amber to call v·our attention to the passing, since we last met , of the Hon. John Anderson a11d the Hon S. K. Bell, two senior a11ri distjnguished leaders ·of the Legisla­ tive Council. Hon.

John Anderson ·came to Ne\~r­ foundland ·over half 1 a c·entury ago from Scotland; ihe came to us for service in that outstanding Baird firm of Water ·Street, one of the leadin . g commercial houses which has carried · 011 the co·mn1erce of this country so successfully n1ow for a ·century or more. He was later ructively i'dentified with mercantile work himsel , f until the name i Anderson became almost a household word.

In later life he gave considerable active effort to Municipal affairs and was identified with 1Jhe Co-o;perative Building Plan so that we still have, and for many years will have, the Anderson Range ,of houses in con·nection with that activity. But it is not in connection with these activities alone that the niame of the Hon. John Anderson will be remem­ bered. As far 1ba1ck as 1909 he w.as iden1tified with promoters in Englan 'd of the Daylight Savings Bill and it was in 1917 that he successfully intro 'duced the law into this country.

The na.me Anderson has been in hon·or in New-_ foundland through his family as well -his iboys-the .senior is one of the outstandin · g dramatic critics oif the world I should say, :and his son, Mr. Hugh Anderson jr., who has recently :J prod11ced a successlful play ·on Broad­ way of New Y·o-rk, and has b·ro·ught cre·dit, not only to the family, b·ut to the whole country because of his i1n­ tellectual and artistic afbility. I would move, Sir, that this House desires to reco ·rd the expression 1 of its deep regret at the passing, since the last sessio · n of the Le:gislature, of the Hon.

John Anderson, Mem·ber of the Legislativ · e 1C·ouncil ·and some time Memiber of the House of Assem ·bly. Permit me to call attention, Sir, to the ,passing of the Hon. S. K. Bell. Identifie ·d, as he w1as, in the ,early days with the constructio , n of the origin ial dry dock, he did a job there which we all remember 1had to be blown out by dyna.mite when co·nstruction wa.s re­ un'dertaken a few years ag·o. He W 'aS a m·an of substance in work, solidity in character, of enduring reputation, good senise, 1commer 1cial albility a:n~d ship-1building acumen.

In this country he was regarded as an authority in co·nnection with matters appertaining to shi!)S. Not ·only did he do good wo.rk, but in the early days a ste!amship badly disabled came into this port for repairs, Mr. Bell repair· ~d this ship, working uirder difficulties. When the jo) b of repairin 1 g was completed t 1 he ship went back to En.glan ' d and was exa.mined by expert marine engineers. The owners put the steamship as re­ paired on exhibition ! a1 s an illustration of the outstandin 'g ability of New­ foundland workmen and marine en­ gineers to carry out SUiCCess·fully a re­ pair jo·b.

It is such men as Anderson and Bell, suc 1 h familfes as they have been identified with that su· c1ceeds in making Newfoundland strong and great in philantroplhy ani d industries. I consequently ~sk leave to move a similar resolution that this House de­ sires to record the expression 0 1f its deep regret at the death since the

- • 8 HOUSE OF ASSEMBL . Y PROC ·EEDINGS last session of the Legislature of the Hon. S. K. Bell. Before I take my seat I would like to refer to the passing of Mr. J. J. St. John, a gentleman well known to the community. There is successful com­ mercial enterprise behind that name. For many years ihe was associated with t1his · C'hamber as representative fo· r the ' distri ·ct of Harbor lVIain. His two ·parliamentary associates, Mr. Judge Morris o· f the Centr ·al District C·ourt and Mr. W. W. Wo·odford sur­ vive him, though not recently vvith hi1 n. associated with political and public ' life in· this community.

His years of active :association with public life have given him a record which is well "'Tort' h us to in:formally remember here this afternoon. T·hose of us who are the ·older men1- bers, who for nearly 25 years have been actively identifie · d with public life ren1ember with very great honor and esteem the name of J O rhn J. St. John. T· o his s·on, The Rev Fr. St. John anld the other memb ·ers 10f his family we would particularly convey our re­ gr1ets. HON. LEADER OF OPPOSITIO.N­ Mr. Speaker, H· O ·n. John Anderson vvas an exceptional man in many instancef:!.

He was enthusiastic, keen about everything he undertook. He was an exemplary ,citizen. He gave unsparin .g­ ly of his time and talents. He has left something behind ·him that will bear his memory for a time, .so far as we can say, hum.anly speaking, as long as the world will last. He brought in, thro ·ugh his persistency, the Daylight Saving Re.gulation, after ten years. He was identified with Mr. Willett of London with this movement. Mr. Wil­ lett was the promoter of the m·ovement in' England. l\ir. Anderson will be coupled with the Daylight Savings Regulation of Newfounaand.

He was Mayor of tlhe City for a term of years. He represented St. Jo·hn's West in this House for a full term. As the Prime lVIinjster has just stated, he was ass· o·ciated, in fact, he was the prime mover of the erection of the work­ men·'s cottages, and it is an unfortun-, ate thi'ng that they were not the fin- an1cial success they mig4t have been. I-Ie has left two distinguished sons w;ho are carrying on the name and re­ flecting credit on Newfoundland. In the ·case o.f Mr. Bell. He was born at Grand Bank in 1853.

In his early days he was asso 1ciate 1d with the shipbuilding in·dustry, he became one of our most outstan ·tlin . g s·hipwrights, l1e has done some very fine wor1lr, and, as the Prime Minister has already said, he was looked upon as an auth­ ority in this industry. His was a re­ tiring disposition, nevertheless, he did his duty as he saw it an· d served his country well as a ·member 0 1 f the Legislative Council. In later years, un­ fo·rtunately, 1h· e suffered from a very rain 'ful ailment, but h1e bore his suf­ ferings with christian resignation and great fortitude.

I had an opportunity of seeing h.im a short time befor • e his death and I was struck very forcibly how he stood up again 1 st the in tense agony he was going through. I desire also on behalf of the Oppo ·sition and mysel 1 f to as,sociate myself with th~ e~pressions of the Hon. the Prime Minister in relation · to· the late Mr. J. J. 1St. J·ohn. · He too was another very worthy and useful citizen ) . At one time he took a keen interest in a1ctive politics; but o, f later years he devoted his activities to his commercial bus­ iness.

He was another of that type of men w·ho ·Carried on hi.s business with- out any great show, but did it SU1CCess­ fully and well. I desire to say, Sir , that th· e relatives of those three gentlemen have our very great \

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 9 sympathy in the losses they have sus­ taine · dr . on motion of the Hon1 . the Prime Minister, seco ·nded by Ho·n. the Leader of the Opposition, the followi ,ng Re­ solutions were passed unantmously: RESOLVED: That thi1 s House 'de­ sires to record the exlpression of its deep regret at the death, since the last session o.f the Legislature of the Hon. John Anderso·n, i11.ember 0 1 f the Le­ o-islative ·Council ahd some time b 111e1niber of the House of .Aissen1·bly.

RESOI~VED: T'hat this House de­ sires to record the ex 1 ·pression ·of its deep regret at the death, ·since the last session o, f the Legislature ·Of the Hon. Samuel K. Bell, m1emb·er of th1e Le­ gislative Council. llIR. BINDON--Mr. Spe.aker, I have I the hon. o· r to m·ove that a Select Com- mittee be appointed to draft an Ad­ dress in Reply to the S1peech from the Throne so gracio · u1sly delivered by His Excellen ·CY the Governor at the open­ ing of this Legislature, an'd w,hich I an1 ,sure will be received not only by this · House, but ·by the ,country gen·­ erally, with sincerest respe ict.

I will crave your permission to first deal briefly with a few happeni11gs since the closing of the Legislat11~·· e last year. We, as loyal British sub­ jects, \Vere grieved to learn of the loss the Royal Family sustained in the death of H.R.H. the princess Royal. His Excellency the Governor cabled Their Majesties the he·artfelt sym- pathy of His Ministers and people, to \vhicl1 Their Majesties graciol1sly re­ plied. A well-lrnown personage and Mem­ ber of the Legislative Cou_ncil, the late Hon. John ~ Anderson, ha,s since our last meeting passe · d a"\vay. Mr.

""~nderson was well and favorably known tl1roughout the length and breadth of our country. For y8ars he carried on an extensive busi11t~~~ on v\'ater Street. He was a ma11 of ster­ ling worth and always and ever ga\'e of l1is best in the interests and · for t lie welfare of his adopted cot111 try, <:tnd I an1 s11re I an1 voicing the senti­ ments of the members4ip of this House wher1 I say tl1at we greatly regr .et his piassing and renew again our sy·n1- pa thy to his relatives and numerot1s frie11ds.

In tl1e Nevv Year's honors list Ne"\v­ !~011n dland "'n1 as not overlooked, ant! three of ou1~ E.--steemed citizens were i~­ cluded in the list of honors. Sir Tasl\:er Cook, who has filled with credit tl1e high position of Mayor of our City and has also acted in the capacity of Premier, was created a Knigl1t Bachelor. Inspector General I-Iutchings, head of our police and fi1·e department, was made a Con1panio!l of the Most Distinguished Order of St. Micl1ael and St. George, and the cause of education was also recognized whe11 Dr. V. P. Burke, Secretary of Educa­ tion, received the O.B.E.

To all three r take this opportunity of expressing Tn)r congratulations and I trust they will be spare · d us many years to carry on their good work and enjoy tl12 honors bestowed upon them. T woulcl like to offer m~r sincere antl hearty congratulations to the Prin1e Minister, Sir Richa .rd Squires, on the signal honor bestowed upon him re­ cently by His Most Gracious Majesty the King, in making him a member of the Privy Council. This honor, s:r, . is one of outstanding merit and a "Tell-deserved recognition.

The aver­ age pt1 blic ma:Q. is at all times open to the severest kind of criticisms, q_Tifl tl1is is especially· true of a Prime Min­ ister, and in a country such a.s ours vvi1ere political views are rather nar­ rr ,v, abilities of an outstanding man · are very often dwarfed by opposing

10 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS fa l'..tions, especially if that man is to the manor born. It is our just pride tben that the Ne,vfoundlander who r·=:­ presented England s Oldest Colt,n) 7 , or Ne,vest Dominion, call it what you \vill. to say the least measl1red up to tne tallest. T am sure. sir. the country will read 'vith pleasure tl1e statement tl1at our exports of Paper and Pulp shovv a very substantial increase over the figures for the previous year. The increase for 1929-30 is in the vicinity of 32,000 tons. This represents an additional value of one million dollars.

I may be permitted to remark here that this in­ dustry is due to the foresight and wis­ dom of previous Liberal administra~ tions. Grand Falls came into existence under the government of the late Sir Robert Bond, and the very extensive operations now being carried on at Corner Brook are the result of the efforts of our present Prime Minister, Sir Richard A Squires. Ile, too, like his illustrious predecessor, was oppos­ ed in 11is efforts to foster the paper and pulp industry in this country.

Both Corner Brook and Grand Falls have been of incalculable value to Newfoundland during the past few ~.rears, when, were it not for the splen­ did avenue of employment afforded our people, the depression felt the wide world over would have been brought home to us more forcibly than it has been. It is equally pleasing to note that tl1e output from Buchans has also in­ creased some 360,000 tons with an additional value of three and a quarter inillion of dollars. Th·ese industries are of material help to the country, and whilst occupying a prominent

part in our economic life will not, in my opinion, ever eclipse the fisheries, I notice in the Speech from the Throne that the fisheries today re­ present about fifty per cent of our exports. This is indeed a change from former years when the fishery comprised the major portion of our entire exports. Altho the actual value is down in dollars and cents the ma­ jority of 011r manhood is interested and will conti11ue to be interested for all time.

Our people should be encour­ aged to prose ·cu te the fishery to its fullest, as 11nder normal conditions the returns give satisfactory results for the length of time and effort devoted to its prosecution. Due to the special Pffort~ nf Rir Ri,-.h::irn Rn11irPc:i ~ littlP over a year ago, a new stimulus is be­ ing given our fisheries by the associa­ tio, n with this country of the British Empire Marketing Board.

Sir Richard in this cas· e displays again that vision and foresight for which he is noted, and today as we open this Third Ses­ sion of the 27th General Assembly of Newfoundland, we are assured of scientific research in all branches of our fisheries.

The immediate results, of course, will not be apparent for some time, but there can be no question that as an ultimate result of Sir Richard's efforts our whole problem of fishing, both th· e catching, curing, and market­ ing, will be immensely improved and enable us to make a successful com­ petition with other countries which of late have been getting the edge of the wedge into the markets formerly held almost exclusively by Newfoundland. Another good measure, Mr. Speaker, is outlined in the Speech from the Throne.

I refer, sir, to the proposed • legislation dealing with the selling of stocks and bonds in this country by irresponsible Canadian and American brokers. It would be illuminating to \vhich have made Newfoundland inter- know, Sir, just what amount of ready n2-tionally knoV\--1. cash has been filched from local in-

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 11 vestors during the past ten or fifteen years. Brokers have come in l1ere and sold 'vorthless stocks Gambling in n1ines, either gold or silver, is al­ 'vays of interest to people generally! but it is indeed time that Newfound­ land legislated against this practice. I venture to assert tl1at within the past twenty years millions of dollars have been taken frolll our people by foreign brokers who disposed of mines and lands and other speculative investments which for the most part were positively worthless, and in fact it may not be uncharitable to say, really never existed.

The surprising part of it is that shrewd business men have been victilllized by these outside sharpers who have made Newfound­ land a special hunting ground. · It is, therefore, but right and proper tbat such legislation be introduce · d as '\vill put a stop to this sort of trade, and thereby protect the country against the loss of large sums of money annually. The money thus spent would be far more profitably en1ploye.d in extending local industry or in developing some of the newer exports, such as the blueberry trade or frozen fish.

In common with the rest of the 'vorld, Newfoundland is suffering from commerical depression, and this de­ pression is the aftermath of the great war For three or four years during the war and for nine or ten years after the world was doing business on a rising commodity market; money was never more plentiful, the purchasing power of the people had greatly in­ creased and wages became very high and business generally was going at very high pressure, so much so that any ordinary intelligent man must have known that such conditions could rtot go on indefinitelJ".

The high standard of living exhausted the earn- ings of the people generally, and pro­ duction became more pronounced and it reached a stage where much more v-1as being produced than could be sold at a profit, and the structure toppled over, with the result that panic reign­ ed supreme, foodstuffs and merchan­ dise of every description was thrown on the market at a loss. Manufactur­ eres began at once to curtail and mil­ lions of workmen all over the world were thrown out of employment.

The effect that this state of affairs will 11ave on our revenue will be on account of the lower value of our fishery and the shortening of wages arid the tl1rowing out of employment of nu1nerous n1en in our industrial plants . has for the time being de·creased the purehasing power of our people. We cannot purchase as much in dollars a:nd cents as we did in former years and the natural result is that the rev­ eD ue is bound to be short. But that is nothing extraordinary.

All the Provinces of Canada, with the possible exception of Quebec, will be short in revenue this year, and the great Dominion of Australia is financially hard-strapped. Even the Mother Country will show a large deficit this year. There is no need for me to enumerate further. The whole world is faced with a like set of circum­ stances and we had to fall in line, although we are usually the last to be hit and the first to recover. We are, however, unfortunate in this country, in as much as the hardest knockers tl1at Newfoundland has are Newfoundlanders.

Our views and ideas are so narrow that just as soon as we meet "rith any little setback our press begins at once to preach blue ruin to the people. Whether this is done from personal animosity or poli­ tical spleen I }{now not, but I do know if it continues in the future as it has in the past, the day may co111e when

12 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS it will have a seriously damaging e·f­ fect on our credit abroad. This falling off in revenue has its compensating advantages and our people gen1erally will be in a better position, in as much as tl1e purchasing power of their dollar will have greatly increased. For instance, flour is three or four dollars a barrel cheaper than last year. Pork and beef have gone down in price eight or nine dollars a barrel. Provisions and groceries gen­ erally have declined in price, and with clothing and merchandise there is a substantial reduction all round.

I fully realise tl1at we are living in an industrial age and Ne,vfoundland, like our neighbors to the West, is slowly but surely beeoming indus­ trialized, and it appears in the course of time (bt1t i11 a very long time, in my estin1ation) the Newfoundland fisheries will not bulk as largely as formerly it has as our chief national asset. But this it not likely to occur in our time. The fishery is the greatest national asset we have, and is to us what wheat i~ to Canada; its chief source of in­ come.

It is a necessary of life, a pro­ duct that can always be disposed of, and is in general demand, but we nlust never forget that the consumer wants a good

article and it is up to us to give it to him. We are about the only ~-· ~ people in the world that seem to think that the consumers must take what we give them and not what they want. l have seen this delicacy-because fish if: a delicate food-handled as would be a cargo of white-ends, ancl some exporters are the greatest sinners in this respect. I have heard of fis!:1 reaching the nlarkets in such a f'O~di­ tion that part of it had to be sl1ovel led o"T1er the side of the vessel, carted a vvay and destroyed. The average buyer and seller has only his only interests at heart and buys and sells to make a profit.

This is alrigl1 t in certain ways and is only n4-.tural to expect, but with the fishery where seven-eights of our people are r.ot only interested but dependent, he should not be allowed to ship to mar­ ket fish not up to the standard and graded as the particular market de­ sires, because it is of national im­ portance. A cargo of fish may be shippe · d to Spain; some particular agent or ex­ porter may get a rush order for a car­ go while the market is good, and he rushes off that cargo and probably \\'-as not too particular as to tl1e qual­ ity of the fish.

It reacl1es the market and he realises a good profit, and if it turns out well it is not only a benefit to him hut to the country a8 w~ll. But, on the other hand, after that fish reaches the retail merchant and from 11im to the consumer, and turns out inferior or bad, it is not only not a. benefit but an absolute menace to the country and it is in cases such as I have just quoted that standardiza­ tion is absolutely necessary.

I need only cite for you the great paclcing houses of the U.S.A. that are making huge fortunes and from small beginnings, and if we look back on the early days of those houses we will find that the promoters or managers were nothing more nor less than ordinary butchers, but they had insight enough to call in expert advice and acted upon it, had their products standard­ ize.a, sent agents broadcast over the \vorld with neat and dainty samples of tl1eir goods seeking new markets and finding out what way the different buyers would want it put up and endeavored to please them in every way, with the result that they are an everlasting benefit to their country.

• HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 13 Now, sir, I ask you how many agents Iiave we abroad today with samples of our products seeking new markets and finding out what w.ay w· e ,could pack them to suit the would-be purchaser. The answer is obvious. The greater part of our catch is subject to the few buyers in Brazil. We ship them tl1e fisl1 · in the same old way and when the markets there are good we reap tlie benefit, but if like last year the market is poor, we get a knockout blow.

In other words, we depend largely upon Brazil for our livelihood, \vith the whole of .South America barely scratched, with Argenti·n'e and :V1exico, with its forty or fifty millions of people untoucl1ed, and their in­ l1a bitants are practically the same na­ tior1ality as Brazil-Spaniards and Portugese-and it is not at all un­ reasonable to believe that they eat the same ki11d of food. I fear, sir, we are n1ot to be comp 1limented on our aggressiveness in this respect.

With one or two exceptions where smelts, salmon and codfish are being exported in cold storage marked pro­ gress is being made, and the pro­ moters or exporters are to be highly complimented for their activity and general business acumen, and I trust, sir, that their venture will pay them far better than they ever anticipated.

But with these exceptions we are catching, curing and marketing our fisl1 in the same old way that our fore­ fatl1ers did, despite the fact that we are living in a technical age and need technical men to handle · our products, to advise us as to the habits of the fish, to advise fishermen as to the cur­ ing of their fish. There should be some sort of standardization between buyer and seller here and elsewhere. There should be a bureau of informa­ tion for our merchants.

People, poli­ ticians and men not interested may talk and shout all they like but the fact remains that some sort of stand- ardization or regulation is absolutely necessary for the greatest asset that Newfoundland has-the fishery . So much for standardization. Now let us look back the past twenty or tl1irty years and see what has been done in this country to protect and en­ courage the fisheries.

I am afraid, very little, Last year our fishermen v.rere faced with a very great hardship by the scarcity of bait, and we had the finest fisl1ermen the world can produce lying on their oars practically the \Vhole summer waiting for the bait that never came. It was so distressing to them that numbers of them chuck­ ed the fishery and sought any kind of en1ployment they could secure. I trust \Ve will never experience anything li~e that again, and I feel we will not.

Already, I understand, several bait depots are being started in several places, and the Government is aiding and encouraging the promote ·rs every way possible. • in Some years ago, Mr. Speaker, the farmers of Australia were suffering greatly by destruction to their crops by rabbits, and the governme ·nt placed a bounty on tl1e head of a rabbit, with the result that bunny had to go and the crops were saved the farmers.

Not very long ago the salmon fishers of the Pacific coast were seriously handicappe · d by the havoc the seals were doing to the salmon, and huge sums were voted for the killing of the seals, and even machine guns were brought to bear on them, and the sal­ mon fishery was saved. About twelve · or thirteen years ago dogfish came in small quantities to our waters, and did we then try and find out the meaning of their coming, if they were to be a bene ·fit or menace to our codfishery? No; we looked upon them as curious and would \Valk a mile to see one. Each sue-

' • 14 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS ceeding year th·ey came in greater numbers, until today they are the greatest curse and the greatest men­ ace that eve· r came near the shores of Newfoundland, and still nothing has been done. These brutes are fast breaking the spirit of the shore fisher­ men. We can only imagine and never describe the hardships our fishermen suffer from them. Is there anything more heartbreaking than for fishermen to go to their traps, nets or trawls and to find them not only fil1ed w iLl1 dogfish but their fishing gear J)Ut out of commission, for they actuaJly eat the · twine.

Now, 8~r, I have no doubt that a great maliy people will laugh at me for what I am going to say, but I will hold to my opinions till someone can convince me to the· contrary. I be­ lieve that the dogfish can be greatly lessened, if not exterminated. They are not a spawning fish, therefore they can be destroyed, and if some­ lhing is not soon done I make bold to say that our shore fishery will soon tJe a thing of the past. I believe if a bounty, which would need only to be very small, were paid the fishermen for the catching of the1n it would have the desired effect.

In fact a bounty would serve a threefold mission, inasmuch as it would in tue first place kill off this menace, i! would be the· means of keeping ">n r men at the fishery, because when the l:ogfish appear in gr2at numbers the n1cn get disheartened and leave the !lshel y to 'x,rork on the roads only to find that at the e o.d of the surn1ncr they are as bad off as when they start ed; it would encourage the merchant to supply the shore fishermen because their time would n·ot b· e· lost and if pre­ vented from catching the codfish they· would . at least make a day's pay with the dogfish which would be a great help in paying their supply bill.

I make bold to say, sir, that if a st1111 cf money could be voted for the kil 1i11g cf dogfish it would be the best v.1 ay possible for money to be spent in this country. Just at this time, Mr. Speaker, a great many of our hardy toilers are tramping the frozen pans prosecutir1£S the sealfishery-an important branc 1 1 of our fisheries-and I am sure I can take the liberty of speaking on behalf of every member on both sides of t:he Hous · e wh·en I say that we wish tl1en1 the best of h~alth, bumper trips, Godspeed and a safe return. I have much pleasure, Mr.

Speaker, in moving that a Select Committee be appointed to draft an address in reply to His Excellency's most gra­ cious Speech from the Throne. MR. STRONG___,Mr. Speaker, it is with much pleasure I rise to sec·ond th1e m·otion · made by my friend the ' Hon. mem·ber for St. Mary's who has so wbly proposed an Address in Re1ply to Hi's Excellency the :Governor's most graciou · s Speech. Reference · has been made to the fact, Mr.

Speaker, that His Excellency on behalf on his Ministers and people of Newfoundland presented our re­ spectful and heartfelt sympathy to their M.ajesties on the death of Her Royal Highness the Princess Royal, which was acknowledged by th9ir 1\ilajesties in a message of thanks. The people of this country, sir, are second to none in their love, loyalty and devotion to the persons of their Majesties, and in the loss that they have sustained we, in common with loyal subjects throughout the Empire, feel that touch of sympathy which, though felt by high or low, rich or poor, makes the whole world akin. •

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 15 Since we last met in session here the I111perial Economic Conference has met in London, wbicb, altb _ o criticised in so1ne quarters as not having accom­ plished all that could be desired, on the other band is in !tself an evidence of tbe ne"v spirit of the times, an evi­ dence of a recognition of the fact that economic and other problems with which our great comn1onwealth of na­ tions is face - d today can best be solved by a free and frank discussion of those pro1Jlen1s by representatives of the various don1inions \Vitbin the Empire; anti while it would he too much to expect that all that coulcl have been ciesi red by the participants In the Conference, could have been achieved in o·ne s·ession, it is mo.st ·Certainly fraught with great possibilities for the interest and welfare of the peoples of the countries represented.

Ne,,·foundland. lVTr. Speaker, was fortunate in bei11g represented at that Conference by the Prime Minister, the Rt. Hon. Sir Richard Squir ·es, and at this time, sir, I would like to avail n1yself of the opportunity presented 11ere of congratulating him on the dis­ tinguished honor conferred on him per­ sonally, and through him on this Dominion, by his having been appoint­ ed a me· m.ber oif His Majesty's Privy Council.

B€fore passi11g on t•o further comme ·nt on various matters mentioned in His Excellency's speech, I would also like to join with the hon. member for St. lVI:ary's in congratulations to the three distinguished gentlemen who have but recently been the recipients of 11onors conferred on them by His Most Gracious Majesty the King. I refer, Sir, to Sir Tas'.irer Cook, who vvas created a Knight Bachelor, Mr. C. H. Hutchings, who was made a Companion of the Most Distinguished Order of St. Michael and St. George, and Dr. V. P. Burke, who was elevated from the rank of M.B.E. to that of O.B.E.

All thre i e are gentleme · n. of whom Newfoundland may well be proud, \Vho undoubtedly merit the special recognition conferred on them. '¥e meet here today, 1\iir. Speaker, under an existing condition of world affairs which from the standpoint of its magnitude at least, is unparalleled in history. Millions of our fellow-men in all parts of the world are haunted by the grim spectre of unemployment 'with it~ ~ . c<~omnanving seQuence of hunger, misery and degradation.

Does life present any more tragic figure than that of a man, with his inherent God-given powers, trained for a task, skilled in the execution of the work demanded by his particular 'rocation, anxious to feel the tug on muscle and bone in the performance of constructive work, wife and child­ ren dependent on him for the nec,es­ sities of life, and the world saying to countless thousands of such me·n: You are not wanted. Death itself presents not nearly as great a tragedy as the situation I have outlined.

We are living under the dominance of a great and ruthless economic sys­ tem the inotto of which appears to be: Every man for himself and the devil take the hindmost; an economic .sys­ tem so sensitive that the cutting of wood in a forest in Russia affects the earning power of a Newfoundland 'voodsn1an; so sensitive that a de-fl.cit in the exchequer of a foreign govern­ ment, or a revolution in a foreign state, may mean the difference in price of a dollar on a quintal of fish to a Newfoundland fisherman.

An economic system full ,o.f ala.rming in­ consistencies: witness machines which remove tremendous burdens of toil f1 om the shoulders of men and at tb e same time by throwing them out or employment make it impossible for them to purchase the products turned

16 HOUSE OF · ASSEMBL 1 Y PROC ·EEDINGS out by machinery; an econ ·omic sys­ te· m full of absurd paradoxes, witness talk of overproduction in various lines, when thousa11ds of people are starving and clamoring for tl1ose things we claim have been over· produced.

This great economic system of tl"!e -v1orld stands on trial today before th~ bar of public opinion as never before. and millions of people who have nev~r raised a question regarding it are asking thems·e1ves if such a systen1! with its roots deeply buried in aelf­ interest, may not well be so recon­ structed or transformed that it shall work in closer harmony with t11e thought expressed by that great po~t who dreamed of that time when ea.ch shall find his own in all men's good, and all men live in noble brotherhood: so transformed that it shall be more in accord with the spirit of brother­ hood .envisioned by the inspired pro­ phets who foretold a day when men ' should throw their silver and gold in the streets, realizing tha.t a man's life is of more value than s~ I Vb r or gold.

A greater amount of intelligent thought is, as a consequence of the growing feeling of kindliness, abroad in the world today, being directed to­ wards th· e mitigation and ultimate elimination of the evils inherent in the economic system of the world, and is one of the bright spots in a somewhat dark picture • I trust you will pardon me, Sir, for this somewhat lengthy digression~ and I will proceed: Our own country, in common with the rest of the world, has during the past year suffered from the effects of the world-wide industrial depressiort. and with a decline in prices, in many cases below the actual cost of pro­ dt1ction, more espe~ially in the case of food stuffs, our fishermen recei"veJ lCt.st year such low prices for the pr(·­ tiuct of their toil that in great nl1m­ bers of cases they were without ti1e ineans to provide for themselves ~,~_ ti families during the "\VintJer, and in t,. <) many cases could not even pay their sur41n1er's accounts.

T· o ·aggravate a situation already grave on account of low prices in our markets, we ex­ perie11ced last year a period of hot sultry weather which resulted in thousands of quintals of fish being sun­ burnt and for wl1ich the producers did not receive sufficient returns to pay them for catching and curing it, and the fish that in ordinary seasons con­ stituted the ereater part of our No. 1 article, turned out to be of very in­ ferior quality. Here I w1ould like to make a few remarks, Sir, regarding t:_e necessity for everyone interested in our staple fJroduct to concentrate on curing a11d exporting the very best

article it is possible to turn out. We can allvays sell good fish, and often when foreig11 \Varehouses are carrying large stocks ot inferior quality, which even ,,-e • ourselves would not eat, the deman 'j \V ould be ample to allow of its sale a.t a profit if the quality were only up to the standard required. We are pleas · e· d to note, Mr. Speal.:er. tl1at although our fishery has not yielded the returns that we could so ardently wish, in other important en­ terprises the facts are most encour­ aging.

The export of pulp and paper shows an increased volume of 32,000 tons, as compared with the previous year, with a consequent increased value of one million dollars. The exports from Buchans Mine also shows an increase ·of 360;000 tons \\Tith a corresponding increased value 1of three a.nd a quarter million dollars.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 17 In these particular instances, as 'vell as in the fact that we ·have a ·,, ble trade balance for the year of f.,.,vora 6 million dollars, we have great over reason to be thanl{ful. Only al)out 20 years 1ago ninety pier nt of our exports were composed of ~:hery products, and it is qu~te evi­ dent to all that in that period we have made great strides along the way of indttstrial development.

The erection of an up-to-date machine shop and equipment in the west end of the city will, in co-opera­ tion with the dry dock, result, we feel assured, in greater efficiency and earning power for both, as well as producing very necessary employment for many men at a period when it is urgently necessary. · I feel certain, Mr. Speaker, that all will llP. nlea .seil t.o le::lrn th~.t the re­ railing of ·the rail way has been com­ pleted and that it is not anticipated th.at any capital expenditure on ac­ count of our railway will be necessary d ui·ing the coming year.

One has only to travel a short distance over the road today to realize the immense i1nprovement which has been brought about in recent years, both in regard to road bed and rolling stock. It only seems a few years ago since a trip by rail ir1 this country was a case of "off again, on again," while today such a revolutionary change has been brought about that this great public utility compares favorably from the standpoint of comfort and service with the great railways of Canada and the United States. Leaving otl).er points mentior.ed to come to our fisheries again fo!' a brief moment.

It is most gratifying to learn of the co-operation of the British Empire Marketing Board with our government, in the formation of a fisheries research commission for the purposfl of placing our :fisheries on a ~cientific basis. Tl1e latest scientific knowledge of their fisheries 11as been a'\railable for years past to the fis·hermen of France. England.

Scotland and Norway and other co11ntries, \Vbile we, primarily a fishing country have been content to pursue the same old methods fol­ lowed by the early pioneers in our fishir1g indt1stry, which . while good enough in their day need the addition­ al light which scientific rese ·arch can bring to bear on our ~roblems, an~ which may bring a new era of pros­ perity to the great industry on '\Vhich so many of ot1r people depend. ' Through the interest of the Prime Mi11ister in enlisting the co-operation of the Empire Marketing Board to the extent of financing the undertaking in the sum of $25,000 per year for five years, with a like sum to be provided ~ bv our own government, the country • will undoubtedly reap benefits of in- esti1nable value.

In conclusion, l\Tr. Spealrer, I wish to express my sincere conviction that although as a. result of a world-wide depression, we are passing througl1 troubleso1ne times, our position is very much better than that of many of our neighbors, and with ot:r ac­ lrno\vledgod qt1ick recovery in the J)ast from the effects of various financi.:tl reverses, we shall by the energy and persistence in the face of obstacles dis­ played by Newfoundlanders all the wor Id over, soon be ?-gain on the high­ road to prosperity.

I have pleasure, sir, in secondjng the n1otion now before the House fr.r the appointment of a committee to draft a. n Address in Reply to His Ex­ cellency's most gracious speech with which he has opened , this session of the Legislature. • •

18 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROC1EEDINGS HON. LE .. i\DER OF OPPOSITION~ Mr. Speaker, I desire most heartily to congratulate th· e Hon. Mover and the H·on. Seconder of the moti ·on that a Select ·Co111mittee 1be appointed to draift the Address in Reply to the Spee ch from the Throne. The Hon. Mem,ber for .st. Mary's sho·wed us that he 'has given very dili.ge·nt study to the preparation of his speech, and it is extren1ely creditable to him. The Hon. memiber for White Bay 'vas quite in­ teresti ·ng to·o.

He took rather another line, ino·re of general economi 1cs, b11t in my opini 10E. these two speeches are outstanding insofar as speake1 s for the movement for a ·committee to be appoi111ted t· o draft and Addre 1ss in Re­ ply. They a·re more fo·rtunate than I am; they 11ave ·had an ·opportunity of reading the S.peech through, of study­ in. ~ every line and every wo·rd. You know the procedure, Mr. Speaker.

We are called here from this House to· attend at the 'Bay of anoth ·er House. 'Ve listen to a Speec 'h; we hear it m·ore or less distinctly from the lips of Hi's Excellency, and we come do\vn 11 ere aqain, an1d, to use your own 'vords, for th· e ,purpose of gr1eater ac­ cur.acy, have it rea· d o·ver again. After it is read we are 'handed a copy of the Spee1ch; our manners p·revent llS from reading that Speech when Hon. m·em­ bers are speakrng. Conisequently one had v·ery little time or very little o·p­ portunity to analyse the Speech. It ~ eems to me, Mr. Spea ·ker, that it \vould .be no m·ore than

an act of courtesy and followin ; g out the tr·adi­ tions in other Houses of Parliament all over the Empire that th1e Leader of the Opposition mi:ght ·be han'ded or put in possessi ,on of a copy ·of th:e ST'eech. say. one hour be.fore the ope11ing of the House. Aft er all, why should it not b1e so? • A re we not here for the common good? \Ve prof.ess we are.

Surely the Govern- n1ent are anx'ious, h· o·ping for, lo· o· k'iJilg for hone ·st criticism, and tl1e only way we can criticis 1e fairly and honestly is by being given ample notice and the opportunity of ascertainin · g the f:a1cts, so that I say it is rather diffi·cult for me to· criticise as in1tellige 1ntly as I am able until one gets a chance to study i:he Speech. There is ·One oth·er ;matter and that is the date this House is met. The pr1o·rogation was to th1e 18th of March, ·with the indication t..liat th·ere would be a further prorogatio11.

The Government for som· e very .grave ce.ason, for one, of which I arn quite sure that the Hon· . Leader of the Gov­ ernm .en t will inform us on the first op­ portunity, brought fo·r,vard the date to to-day. It disconcerted a good many men.

They were fully of the 01ryinion that this House wo·uld not ·meet be.fore the last week of the m·onth or the first week of April, co·nsequently they will feel that they m.ay appe .ar r·emiss in their duties towards the country by niot 1being 1he·re wl1en tl1e Legi ·sla­ tive ·Coun 1cil is in ses1sion. • 1Coming to the Speech, on1 e does not like to ·criticise it harshly, but it i.s a very long Speech, and it se.ems to me that the co·mplier of this S1peech said "I can't give them much in q11ality, but I will give th1em lots in quantity." It does ·not seem to me that there is much in this Speech that calls for con· struc. t~ve thought.

O·ne can't se_ e very mu1ch. 10· f a ray of hope ·in any part. In the second last paragraph is the only line that gives us hope that there is something comin .g. I was sur­ prised to see that after the gr·eat ' hurrah made a)bout t'he standardization of fish; wh.at a pana·ceq, it was going to be for the country; h·ow it was go­ ing to make every fisherman · hap·py, comforta ·ble and co'nltent, I a1n sur­ prf.sed t· o· ·see ft relegate · d into the centre of a . paragraph. I don 1 t kno· w 1nuch about the standardization of

HOUSE OF AS1SElVIBLY PROCEEDINGS 19 fish. I will grve it some tho·ught when the time comes. I understand the Bill will reach the House before the close; it will be time enough then to discuss it. It is i1npo1ssi,ble for the Government to run a fishing industry; all it caTI do is t10' place scientific facts befor · e the people, but it .·can enact law 1 s and see that they are enforced; t'he most of that industry 'is from the fisherman to the merchants who are going to make that industry a success.

If I were asked to put in three words the three things most essential to the prosperity of the fishery, I should say Rationalization 1, Standardizati 1on and Centralization. I'f these three things could be put into operation, it would go a long way to·wards solving our fisher y problems. I would like to be able to think lilke the Ho·n. gentlem an who wrot · e this Speech from the Throne 1that distress is not prevalent in our midst.

Now this Speech must .have 1been written many months ago, lbecau ,se we all know that poverty and destitutio · n is stalking throug ,hout the land apd poor telief is being given out all over the country. For exam ,ple: , a n1ember of the Q J o,vernment party told m, e that niot for thi1rty years has there /been such call for poor relief as there has been for the past year. Then why s·ho,uld the Government be afratd to admi1t that there has ·been and is at the 'present time destitution .an· d distres 1s prevail­ ing in the 1country.

Is it because of the outrageous promises made by th1e Government in, the Fall of 1928 an 1 d Which pron1ises 1brought the present Government into pi o.wer. Then the people were tol1 d that milk an, d honey would flo, w thr1oughout the land and that they would never see another poor day, and now the Government an1d the members thereof are afraid to admit that there is any depression Bxisting. Why, vve hear it from every distrlct that ba· d times are 1 0,btaining.

Even at Corner Broo 1 k, the Prime Min­ ister's o,,,.n conistituency, which is sup­ posed to be a hive of indu 1stry, we are in'formecl of de1pression and hard tin1e~ exi1sting and relief is being given 011t there. I thin · k the Government is afraid to admit this fact, and, consequently, I think it is a confes ·sion of weakness and a co·nfessio · n of failure on tl1e part o· f the Government. I notice in the Speech fro , m the T·hrone that the rerai 1ling of the rail­ \vay line from St. John's to Port aux Basques has been completed.

No dou:bt this will be very beneficial and I h· o.pe : , ~ -\vill mean , a great saving i'n the operation of the road an1d. th.at gradually 've will be aible to, bring down the cost of o.peratin 1 g the rail way to one-half of what it costs today. It is also gratifying to hear that there will be no necessi 1ty for any further expenditure on capital account in con­ nection \Vith the railway, after the co1npletion · : o, f the n'ew Machine Sho , p at the Dry Doc1k.

Of course, la 1 st year there was a large expend'iture o· n capital account for the railway and I s1111p,ose that acco11n1ts for the antici­ pated reduction this ye· a.r. Regar 'ding the erection of the new machine shops, I am in enti1re accord.

T;here is n· o use having an up-to-date Dry Dock if o,ur mac·hine sh1ops do n1ot gilve accurate workn1an 1ship, and I hope that when our new machine shops are fin.jshed and in proper wor'king order we will be able to give a good substantial job, that there will be no more repairs of a ten1porary character done to shi'ps calling here and that all repair work will be of a permanent n,ature. An1other paragraph in the Spee ,ch fron1 the Throne deals w'ith the Im­ perial 'Con:ference held in Lo·ndon last year. This is very interestin , g an: d I a1n in hopes that -later on tl1e Prime •

20 HOUSE OF ASSE1\1BL 1 Y PROC 'EEDINGS ~'Iin ister will give more details in con1- 11ection with the busisness transacted by tl1e Prime lVIiniBters ·of t he differen t Dominion 1 s of the En1pire. I believ · e that .the getting togetl1 er of tl1e different Prime Ministers ·around the table is the proper way to d10· busines ·s. vVe were told this afternoon by the mem.ber for St. l\1ary's that tb e re­ venu 1 e for this year will be s.hort and 11e comfo ·rte1d 11imself with the thought that that was brought a.bot1t be·cause \Ve collected m·ost of our duty 011 an ad valo · r'em basis.

I think it iR very clisc iomforting, 1 b1ecause even if you buy goods which have redt1c 1ed in pri1ce. you mu1st have the inoney t0 buy them. T. h1e great trouble is the great ·scarcity of rea·dy money among our people. What is needed is increase · i rurchasing power in the country, but that is not in sight and so we are to go on ·borr1 0.win· g mor· e money. I un.derstand that the loan to· be retired is for two million dollars borr ·owed during the war.

I an1 afra,id the G·ov­ ernm 1ent ar~ n1ot takin , g all the steps tl1ey might to reduce the n.ecessity of tl1i's borrowing of money and it is time we st1o·pped this borrowing. There is no attempt 1 bein~ inade by the p·res­ ent Goviern i m·ent to e·conomize, b11t rather is ther · e every indication to ke1ep on borrowin 1g. It is like a inan borrowing to pay the interest on the mo11ey he owes. The Sneec11 fr·om th1e Th 1 rone also tells us tl1at tl1e ·Census will be taken this year.

T'hat is interesting, . but it is regrettable in the sense that · o·ur popt1la 1tion is increasin . g so slovvly 8.11d that is account 1eU for 1by the P.1umb·er of 011r young n1en and won1en who are leaving the country .·because they ar1 e a.ble to get better conditions t11an they are able to get at hom·e. I think that is also a problem that sh1oulcl be tackl ·ed. I would like to see a,11 effort i11ade to make life more • livaJble in the outports.

I do n·ot blame the younger fol1{S for leavin 1 g the out­ rorts where there is nothing to oc­ cupy their spar · e time and I believe th.at s·ome pleasures s11ch as radios, movi ,es, etc., should 1be priovided. I am pl·eas1ed indeed to learn that the Governmen \ t are continuing to operat · e the Newfou11dland Hotel. I do not think we ·could very well get alo~g witho .ut it now and I thin · k it is now rieally ai public utility. I am glad to say to· o that under the new manage­ ment .giood progress has been made to\vards getting pe·ople to .stay th·ere. .

Wtth regard to· the Publi 1 c Health Bill mention t e· d in th· e Speech, I thinl{ this is a necessity and '\\-.,.e sho·ul1d have had it enact 1ed into law la·st year wh·en the Bill was introduced here. I con. ­ gratulate the gentleman who w1ent to su·ch i'rou lble in having the Bill drafte · d and I can assure him that we, on this side of th· e House, will us-e our b·est endeavours to get the Bill tl1rougl1 a.n1rl inal{1 e it w1 0.rkable and beneficial to the c·ountry at large.

Resp 1ecting the Securities Bill, I think, Sir, this Bill sl1ould hav; e be·en in 0 1-v'\eration here yea· r· s ago· , as too ofte11 11ave our people · b1een fleeced by i11vestin . g their mon1ey in oil w·ells and otl1er wild ·cat s· ch· e· ~es with strang­ ers. I d· o no.t think that our people are any mor· e prejudi .ced agai'n 1st trans­ a cti! o·ns ·of dou.btful char ·acter th 1 an the people of other countr ·ies are, and I a.m glad to s1ee that we ar· e goin 1 g to have a Securities Bill '\vhich will be the means of saving some of the hard earned money of ou· r p·eople.

We are also told in the s ·peech fro111 the T11rone that we 1are go,ing to have a Life Insurance ... L\..ct intro ·duced at this ·session. Time was when \ a man had to argue a g· r1eat deal with his client to sell insurance.

HOUSE OF ASSElVIBLY PR,OCEEDINGS 21 • o·enerally agreed that the payin 1 g of b .life insuran 1 c1e is as ne·cessary a.nd as important as the paying of r1ent. There is ju·st one mo:rie paragraph in the Speech fro· m the Throne that I ,vould like to refer to before taking 111y seat an1d that is th. e one wfu.icl1 8 ays: "My l\tinjsters prop ,os, e to submit for ~ronr information the text orf a propo sal inade by Mr. Alan 1S. Butler to the Government in relation to the Gander timber areas and water pow­ ers." Mr.

Spea;ker, I would like to re­ fer to the Sp·eech of last year ', a·nd, for the pur·:rose of greater · accu 1racy, I shall read a paragraph o.f it. (Reads.) Now when we heard that read last year everybody was ju1bliant that theire was going to be a Gander De1al and that a "Gang was go-in1 g on· the Gander." One minister of the 1Crown on his return fron1 the · C'onference in New York last yea· r was known to have said the Rev·enue wo,uld 1 b1 e increas ·ed by two and a 11alf millions a ye.ar 1by tbe Gander Deal an· d that about f·our millio11 dollars a year was to 1be ex­ pended on la.bor.

Thou ·gh this had come directly from a Minister of the CTown himself yiet when ask,ed about it a fe· w weeks later in th· e House, nothing was known. · Now this Mr. Alan Butler has come on th· e s·cene, • a11d it lo 1 dks as if Mr. Butler · is dictat- ing the policy of the Governm 1ent. The Government acting through the Min­ istry of Justice placed writs on the property in question, and it seems to ine as if there is som, e betrayal so·me­ \Vhere. If those M'inister'S are com­ petent and acting in 1all hon1esty, why was the Gander Deal m1ention 1ed at all in the Spe·ech from the Thro ,ne last Year.

I really, SiT, think it most lamentable that last years session should have been completed without anything hav'ing been do11· e in the mat­ ter, as I b,elieve it was the last chan ·ce 've will get 'fo· r years. Economic co·n­ dition i s ar'e now such that I ~ear' no, s11cl1 good terms will be now available as on last year. If the ·contrairy it true I shall 1be ino·st a.gr·eerubly surprised and I wis ' h to say, Sir, tl1at as far as • the Onp·osition is concern ·ed we will do ever ·ything possible for th, e p·ro·mo­ tion of the deal and w. e a·re m. o·st .anx'ious to help by fr·ank and open criticism.

It is not our intention to hold p legislation, but rather · to :give the mem1b,ers of the gio,vernm ·ent the beneif:it of our ideas. The fa·ct that we a.re on opposite sides o.f the Ho·use does not mean that we are not patrio­ tic Newfoundland ·eTs. HON. THE PRIME MINISTER----iMr. s . p.eaker, I should first o.f 1all like to j1oin my;self iin the congir!atulations to Mr. Bin1don and Mr. St1ro:n1g, the pr·o­ po·ser and seconder o.f the m.oti·on o.f the AB.dress in Reply. Borth th.ese gentlemen have acquitted themselves a· s well. as the seinior men in1 the House.

Both their a,ddr·esses were most excellent and displayed a depth 10f thought and a 1real kn: o.wl1edge a.nd ap­ pr'eciation of the pi r1oblems th!at con· ­ fro 'nt us to-day. To· the Leader of the Opp1osition I wis· h to exp1ress my sin­ cere thanks and app1r1eciation to, pull with the governmenrt in thought and ar:guemeint. '11h1ere is n', othling mor· e benefi ·cial to 01 r m1oire lik1ely to br[ng about gio·od ·legislation than op,e:n de­ b1ati\ng.

No .one gro· u·p, b1e i\ t go·vern- 1nent ·or o· p1nosition, can ever know it t:tll, a·nd it is only the c·o-operaition o.f both gr·oups : an~d by the blending of thou~ht and ar1g11ement thart thi e best results ·ca· n be 1 0.bta~.n! ed. It must al­ ways be r'ememiber ·ed that when

an Act p1asses this House and go·es 01n the Statute Books it is not the Act of th1e goveTnm ·ent 0·11ly but of the whole

22 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS H1o·use, 1and as su1ch it h·as the for ·ce an'd effect of law . Whfle the Ho111. Le.ader of the Op­ positi 1on has not said S · O in so many w·or· d.s, yet I fe1el that his p' h1raseolo :gy has sug~ei sted his disruppoi'n1tmen · t at th· e amount ,of un1employmemt that is rife in the counltry.

That thier'e is un­ e·mploy .ment is und·oub•tedly true, but I would lik· e to poin i t out thiat fio· r the m·onth of February th1eir1e was not so m·uch u.nemploym ·enlt as t'h 1 er 1 e was iJn the same mo1nrth ten yea1rs ago O 'r eve.n· twenty 1or thirty Yieairs ,ago, an: d des1 p:ite p1r1esent adverse c01I11ditio s th· e ' destitutio · n f 1o· r the m001th was n1ot ap- p!riecdably grreater tha· n te·Il! years ago . .

This is so despite t11· e. fact thiat nor­ m!rully any where up to two hu. nidred Inellj ar1e employ :ed 1by the C 1 0U 1 n1cil i1n sn1ow shovelli 'ng and str·eet ·cle.aning, an. d this year th·ere wa, s non·e. Never­ theless ther · e w·as thi1s year less de1s­ tituti001 and less u· n,employm 1ent than jjor a:nly yea:r sin·ce the war, ain1 d that this is so, is due tn no small m1 e1asure t10 thi e adjustment of tr·ade.

As an in­ stanc · e 1of this I ' h. a ve o·nly to, poinrt to the agreement ma1de S ·ome two ye.ars ag· o between the ·GovernnTe ·nt ankl the Municrip 1 al Counofl for the taking off of the ·coal tax fro · m s·hips.

This has bee· n the m·erun1 s 1of brii1n'gini g a great n1umbe . r of .ships into th· e hairbo· r as th1eY fiou·nd it better to co· m1 e h·ere to r·e..ico·al than t10· pr1oceed On• to S.yd1n1ey, and a gre 1 at ·deal of trade has been the result. 0th.er aflr1run·gem·ents mad· e two ye·a:rs ag· o '.for the 1refundin · g of du 1 ty or the placi.llli g ·o.f ·no duty at all on materials for shii'ps' ·repairs effiected in· the d.ock hlruve mea;nt th1at our co'llt· r·acto ·rs c·ould compete with . doc·ks ab1 r·oad.

M:ore t:riade anld mo1re emp1loyrpen 1 t have re­ sulted 1and a gr1ea1t 1n1umibe·r of people have ·ben·efited. It wa1s stated recen itly by a party mem·beir, at a meeting of the ·prurty , that th1ere was no des.titution · in his dli.strict, an· d a 1gentl · e1ma: n w'ho has ire­ cenitly ciome in ;fro · m Po1rit au P'ort states th·at in1 that

section · of t'hr e coun­ try · thiln1gs are em.in1en1tly satisf.acto .ry. Th· e 1 r·ecent smelt i 1 ndustrry has 1been resp ,on:si'ble for putting a clear p·rofit of ove 1r $15,000.00 into · the h. a.nds of the peopl 1e of this dist1rlict.

This year for' what were p1r·obably good a·nd suif­ ficient ir·easons 01f threir· ,ow· n the own­ er1 s would n1ot se1nd a steam .er for r men goin , g to t1l1'e seal fis· h1 e1ry and s10 the Govern 1 m1en1 t sent do,wn a 1boa1t. · O·nly twelve men c1ame up rthart ·did not p·a)r th1eir w·ay in cash, s· o that theTe was no char'ity ani d absolutely n1 0 ·cha1rge on the G·ove·rnm1ent i'nvolved. This w1011ld 1J11ot i1 n1dicate that the p·eople w·ere poverty strick · e1n1 .

O· n th· e .oither ·hand ith1e p1roducts fr1 01m the fishery a1re five million · dolla •rs less than . last Y1erur an1 d the· r· e is bound to b, e string­ e· n,cy. While Grand Falls, ·Co1rnier Broo: k a·n1d Buchan i s ar1e k·eepin . g u 1) the gen1er1al ·aveirage, it is itiru· e that Bell I·slain· d is w·OT 1 k1.1ng on. h·alf time, and while this do·es · n1ot inv:olve m1Uch a1ctual destitution it does m,ean s· e· v·ere sit· 1~i1 n1 gency.

It d'o· e· s m·ean a severe tighten 1in· g ·Of the ·belt, 'but it d· oies n·ot mealll th. e fo,rmrn 1g of bread :li1 n1es a.nd th· e wides 'pr1ead d·estirtution of th· e dole with its co· n:seque int d·egr1adJati'otn. 011r Po101r Relief i1s 1ex1ce·edingly small as com1pa1re1d with cou'n(tr'ies like 1 Cal!11ad·a, the Un'ited State 1s, It·aly an1d the Mo th er Country. Firlain· c. e I br e ld·ev· e is • a· n ex· c·eptio i n .. Ou1 r eco· niomic sit1uati 1on i.s n:ot s10' bad as some p·eople would hruve us 1beliieve. The1re are twe:nty n1ine millio : n 1dollars 'i1 n th1e s· a Vin.gs b1 a.nks of St.

John's iat thre i e per cent. ·Ove'r fifty million dollars wo1rth o.f life insu1ra1 n1ce is 1 Car1ried :and la1st yea· r th· e actu ·al cas! h vialue of life insura 1nlce v·re,miums pruid in St. Joh·n's was over a m.illi· o· n an· d a ha~f dollars. W.hen, we remember th'is a· n· d couple :Ut with the fac1t that

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 23 tlir ·oughout tl1e length a·nd bre1adth of cou1ntry out side St Jo1hn''S the people own their o·wn houses, built on freehold land and paying n· o rent or ·Charge to no·bodY w: e can1n·ot think in t1er·ms of destitution1.

Thlis does n1ot 1 m.ea;n, that the,re are n10 cases of ·distr . e.ss, no bit­ ter tighte , n1 i1 n· g 1of the belt, b1ut my ex­ perience has always be 1 e'n1 rf:h;rut wh~n th· e ciountry gets down to so;un( d bus­ iness and is watchin , g the leaks ;and looking fo1r lOOo/o effic~en1 cy tJhen we a.i-.ie gettin · g dow· n to th1 e ·solild founda­ tion of fu1ture succ ,ess. Refe1"e, n1ce has · b.een m.ade by the Leade . r of the O·ppositJian to the Gander Deal, and I will tell whiy we h1ad n10 Ga-nder last y1ear'.

It w1as be- . . c1ause th· e Reids wa·nted 15 million D·olla ir:s fo·r them 1s·elves, and wh·en they came an1d aske 1d th· e GoveTnmient to guarante · e them . fift 1 een milli ·on dolla •rs th,ey we.re refus ·ed, a1nd until the Reids get down to a r1ea1son1 a1ble p·ositi i: o: n 1 ~nd are willin , g to discuss busin1ess on. a fai1 r basis it w.i\11 be diffi1CUlt t 1 0 do anything.

No fin1an1cial p.eople would do 1busines.s oi r· give mo1r· e c• o1n·cessions than the properity w·ouf.d warnr1an.t. vV'lven th1 e matte 1r C · 01 m·es up ~Ol r' dis­ cussio 1n I shall ask pe.rmission 1 fr·om the R1ei1ds to lay on th~ e tabl · e o:f th· e House the full ·corr.espon1den1ce in co·n­ ne·crtion wi1th 1 th· e martte i r'. Uast yerur the Reids Jriequ1 e1ste1d that I should niot do· so, and tJhat was why it wla.s n·o.t don1e. Howe .Vier, this yea'r, i'f I 1obtadn · thei'r pe1 r·misston, I initeind Putting th. e whole m latrte· r in1 toto o· n the table of thiis House, a·nd I rum sure M .r.

Ald1er!dic1e as a businress man will see what was th1e only cour1se op1en to us, and that he will give us his heartiest 1supp 1ort for what w:as do. n1e. It was 1moved ·by M.r. Bin· d·oill and secon 1d·ed by M·r. Strong tlhat \run Ad­ rlr1ess 1of than :ks · b, e pr;esented to His Excellency the 1Governor in reply to the Glr.acious Speech with which he 11ad bee1n· 1pleas ·ed to open the ptres·ent session of the Legislature, and that a Select Co'm 1 mi'ttee be .ap· p1oinrted to d1raft such A1ddress in Reply.

It was ·ordere · d ac· c· o·rdi:n!gly 1antl th·at tlh· e followi . n· g gen'tl ·em1e'n1 b1 e s1u·ch Co1m­ m'ittee: Mir. Bindo · n· , Mr. Sr1o:ng, M;r. S·cam· m1ell, M(r. WiJnter, Mr. Quin ,ton . .

Hoi n1 . the Prim1 e Minister gave n·otilce thiat he would on tom.or1row move 1an hum'ble .A!ddr·ess to His 1Majesty the Kin1 g p·rayin · g thJat he may be gra:cious­ ly pleased to 1cau.s1e a M.easur r1e to be laid ·before the Pa·rliame :rut . bi f the United Kingd ·Olm ·o.f 1Great BritJaliin 1 a'n: d N101rtheirn Ireland to give effect to certain 1 Res1o;J ution 1 s Het forth lin th· e Repo 1:rts of the Imperi 1al Conifeir·en1ces h·old· e· n at Westmin'ister · in, the yeiars 1926 and 1930.

H·o1n1 . the Prlime Miniister gave n 1 otitce that 'he wourd o: n tomor .row !ask leave to intr 101duce a Bill enti 1tle· d "A: n Act to P\rio1vide a Natio ·nal Flag .for N· e·w­ fioundland, and C1olour'S to· be wio1rn by Ves·sels." H·on1 . the PJ'fim· e Min:ister gave n·oti\ce th·at he woul 1 d on tomioirrow l a. s 1 k leave to in1t'roduce a Bill en1titled "An1 Act to Amiend the Ac· t V., 1Chapiter 3, en­ titled 'An Act Authorlilzing th~ G·oiv­ e1rn.or iln C·ou·ncil t· O · e·nter into · a ·COil­ t:naict with the Ame1rican Telephone a·n·d T'elegraph Comp 1an1y.'" H·on\ . the Pr~m1 e Min1ister gave noti lce that he would 1on1 tomor 'r'ow ask leave to in1tJr·odu1ce a B1ill enititled "An Act to A!me1ri. d th· e Sum1mary J1urisdi 1ctilon Act." 1Ho.n. the Prime Mi'nister gave n·otice that he would on tomorro · w ask leave to intr · o·duc· e a Bill entitled "An Act to alte : r tJhe Title of the C<oloni 1 a1 l Secr 'et­ ary."

• HOUSE OF ASSEMBL 1 Y PROC 'EEDINGS ·T·he Minister of Agricultur 1e a1nd 1\1'.~ne· s 1gave notice th1at h· e would 10· n tomiorro · w as 1 k le:ave to intro 1duce 'a Bill entitl ied "An Act Relating t10· the Keep­ in1 g of Dogs." H· o1n. the Solicito · r Gener ·al gave no­ tice that he w1 o·uld on ti o,mortrow · wslr leave t10 'int1rodu1ce a Bill ent 1 itled "An Acit to Amen1 d the la vV relating to Life Insuran lce.'' Hon. the Soli1citor G1ein1eral ,g;av· e no­ tice th1at he w·ould on tomorrow ·ask leave to in'tr· o1du 1 ce 1a Bill en1titled "An Act :for the Br1evention 1oif Fir· a1ud i'n r·e­ l·ation to the Sale of Secu ·rities ..

" The Mrn!iste · r . 01 f Marine anld Fisher­ ies gave 1no1tice that the woul 'd on to­ morrow ask leave to introduce a Bill entiitled '"An Act 1 r' elat~n1 g to the 1 Can­ nin1 g of Rabbits, Birds an1 d Shell Fish." Hon . . th· e Prime Min1ster ta.bled the Reip1ort of the E·xami1111ati1 oins con1dt1cted by the Coun ·cil 1of Highe . r Edt1cruti·0'11, Newfo · u·ndlan ·d, 1930; a1n1 d the Fin­ an1cli1a1 State 1 m·e1nt ·Of the Council of Higher E.du1catio , n for t11'e year en1ded Deicem·ber 31st, 1930. Ho:ru. the PI'l~me Min-iste· r table · d the full text .of a memor 1artdum submitted by Mr. A. S.

Butler, D·eben(tu· r1 e holder o· f the Reid Gan'de1 r properities, to the Col1dnial · Slecretary on Satu ·rday, Feb­ rurury 21st, 1931, fo· r the co1nsideration of the Go·ve1rnme · n t. Hon. the 1Colonial Secreta .ry tabled th· e Rep·o:rit of the Sit. John's Ge1 n 1 e1ral Ho. s, p1itJal, :als· o the Report 1of the Muni­ c1ipiail 1Council ,for th· e year 1931. Mir. Al1d.erdice gave ,notice · 01f ques­ tion. Mir. Pudd 1ester gave n1otice of ques­ tio1n. M1r. Emerson gave notice o, f ques­ tion:, . . . Mr. Wdlnter gave n:oice of question. Mr,. J.\!01ore gave :notice of que·stion .

M1\ Byrne gave notice of ques 1ti1on. Mr. Qui1nton gave n1oti1ce 01f questio ,n. It vvas m1 o·ved and sec·on1ded that mhen the Hous 1e rise · s it adjo ·urn un:til to1norrrow afte 1 rn:oon .at th1ree of tl1e clock. The H·ouse then · a·djourne'd a1CC«Yrd­ inigly. THUR .SDAY, March 12th, 1931. The House met ·at three of the clock in the after 'noon pur1suan1t to adjour .n­ ment. Petition~ wer· e prese ,nt·ed by Mr. Pt1dd·ester, 1 !r1om Grates C·ove, _re Road. llIR. PUDDESTER-Mr.

Speaker, I desire to pr·esent a petitton from the resid . e·nts oif Grate's 1Cove., in the electorial Diistrict of B·ay de Ve·rcle, asking that a road b· e put through: from the railway st1atio · n to the encl ·of Grate's Cove, a .distan ·ce of two .and a half or thr.ee miles. I am I1'ot pres­ e.ntin · g this petition for thi e purpose of getti 'ng mo.ney to do· the road, as I an1 aw·are how 1 a proc ·ess of that kin· d has to be proceeded with. I may say that I have d·one my b1est withi~n the past three or four years to g,et this r·oad co.mpleted.

In August, 1928 I h.ad the road design ·ated as a s 1econd class :high ·road and since that time all the ro1ad m·oney po,ssible h1as be1en .devoted 'to thi1 s s1ectio .n. In the Fall of 1929 the people h·eld a public me1eting and pass­ ed a Resolution to the effect that, if the Gover .nm1ent would . gr1a·nt a suf­ lficien 1 t amount o. f money to complete the road, it would o·bviate th· e giving ·01ut ·of poor relief durin 'g the "\Vi1nter of 1930, they would give their lands

' HOUSE OF· ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 25 on each side of the proposed new r<)ad .for nothing. Last year the Highroads c0111mission very kindly loa11ed m· e 1 an rnsp ·ector to inspect the road in that pla:ce, and all the men, with one ex­ ception, willingly gave their la.n1d f1»ee. Still ,ve did not get a sufficient · a111ount ·Of mon·ey to do the wor·k. Re­ cently a Solicitor of St. John's gave notice that, on behalf of one ma. n ,vhose land was tak· e'n, he was suing for the v1alue 0 1f the land at the rate of $2400.00 per acre-an exorbitant charge.

N·ot long since tl1· e people met again and l1ad this petition sign·ed and it not . o.nly asks that the ro·ad be fin­ ished but states that t 1 he people gen­ erally are n·ot supporting th· e action of the man who has sued for the l·and taken fr 1 om him. In .supporting the prayer o.f this petition I would aslr for the co­ operation of the Highroads Commis­ sion in having tl1is road completed. Hon. t1he Minister ·Of Finance and Customs tabled the following public documents: Statement of Cust )J11s Revenue ·Col­ lected i11 the Colony cu ring the year ~ 1 1ded 30th June, 11:~0.

Statement oif the Imports an·d EiX­ ports of the Colony for year ended 30th Ju.ne, 1930. A · C·omp1arative Staten1ent of Goods ' Wa.res and Merch ·an.dise imported inrto tl1e Colony during the years ·ended 30th June, 1929, a.nd 30th Jun·e, 1930, showing incre 1ase1 s an1d decreases for the year 1929-30. A Comparaittve Statem .ent of Re­ 'renue r·eceived at each Outport for the years 1928-29 and 1929-3-0. ·A Comparative State111ent of Light Dt1es, showing C ·ollections at each Out­ port for the years 1928-29 a.nd 1929-30. A Return of th· e Bank Fishery for the year 1930.

A State111·ent s'howing the Reve ·nue collected on Goods, \Vares and lVIer­ chandise imported throllgh the Post Office. Statement sho\vi11g the m·ovements of Shipping during the year en.ded 30th • ·J·une, 1930. An A 1 bstra ·ct of Shippi.ng fo, r the year ended 31st December, 1930. Rt. Hon. the Prime Mini ·ster tabled the following m·emorandum between Mr. Alan S. Bt1tler and the Colonial S1ecretary relating to, the Rend-Gander properties: Dep.artment of the Colonial Secreta .ry, St. John's, I~ewfo. undland, March 9th, 1931.

Sir, Not ·Only have the in·dividual mem­ bers of Co·mmittee of C1oun·cil had the opportunity ·of P·ersonally discussing with l\/Ir. Reid and yourself the pro­ position '\vhi-ch you submitted to the Government recently, but Com·mittee of Council as a b·ody, in so far as the members have been available for 1bus­ in1ess during recent weeks, has devoted careful co·nsider ·atio . n to the matter. .Of the P·Oints of outstanding import­ ance there is on· e in particular whi1ch has not been mad· e clear.

It is under­ stoo1 d th:at your desire is to sell to the Goviernment such quantity ·Of Deben­ tures as wo·ul 1 d mak· e the G·overnment a minority Deb·enture holder. It does not appear wh1at proportion ·Of the voting stock, if any, in the Reid New­ foundland Company, the Gand 1er Val­ ley Power and Pa.per 1Co1mpany, I~imited, the Min.es ·and Forests (Nevr­ foundl.a11'

d) Ltd., a11d oth·er Reid Co·m­ panies a·nd subsidiaries goes with the ' clebentures, n·or is it appar ·ent how the interests of the Govern ·ment wot1ld be •

• 26 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS protected by being merely minority bond holders or the hold ,ers of min,or' ­ ity vo,ting stock in connection \.vith th,ese several companies, the e·ntire assets 1of which it is underst ,ood are pledged by way 01f first mortgage se­ curity for th, e protection of the bond holders. I am. sure you appreciate the fa.ct that the Government's int1erest in this m,atter is to promote the prompt ,de­ velopment o_ f a Ga·nder pr·oposition for tl1e purp ,ose 01 f em1ployme , n1t, .revenue and industrial progress.

To you, on th, e other hand, a Ga'n'der proposition means · a prop 1osal whereby y1ou and your associates may sell your New­ foundland interests to the best ad­ vanta:ge 1of y. o.urselves 1as individuals, and as private c,01npanies. Your inter­ ests would be to hold thes , e areas for the highest price whic , h you could ex­ pect to secure f1or th·em.

The interests of the Newifoundlan .tl Go,ve·rnment would b. e to secure the deve ·lopo 1ment of the ar, ei a, s at the earliest possible date with ·out regar • d to the profit which you might hope to secure for them, whether as i'n'dividuals ·or a. s .private Co1npanies.

Y1ou ·Clan fully app,re1ciate the abso ilute clash of initerests between yourself a.nd the Reids, on tl1e one hand, and the N·ewfoundland Government, on the other~ This p1articular difficulty might be met by you 1and your ass·ociat ,es fix­ jng a price for w.hich you would sell th.at portion of the securtiy fo1r the debentures co,mprising su·ch ·of the property and assets necessary for the Gander developm 1ent as are owne 'd by you. I have the h1on·our to b.e, Sir, Your ob1edient servant, A. BARNES, Colonial Secretary. Alan S. Butler, Esq. ,, City. St. John's, Newfoundland March 10th, 1931. The Hon. A.

Barnes, Coloni 1al S'ecretary, City. Sir, I have your letter of yesterday's date. I cannot understand h·ow there ca11 be any d1oubt as to the position of minority bo1ndholders.

It was made as clear as I c1oul1d make it to t,he Mem­ bers of th· e Executi,re Go1vernment that these m'inority b1ondh 1ol'der1 s would have no voti'ng interest i'n the stock of any 0 1 f the Reid 1Co1mpanies~ Neither can I understand yot1r sug­ gestion that the inter ·ests rOf th· e Gov­ ernment 1and of those i'n ,control o. f the R·eid Companies would clash and that the . o:nly object of the latter would be to hold . out for the highest price they might hope to obtain.

The control oif the c1omp,anies would be irt the hands o. f the bo1ndholder.s, wh·OS'e main object woul ) d be to avail of t,he earliest reason :able opportunity to get their money back and, if th· e G1 0,vern1ment bec1a.me a hol1der of part of th, e bonds, their · interest to th,at extent W · 01uld be identical with that of the other bo~d­ holders. If, as y:ou say in your letter, "the Government's interest in this matter is to promote the prompt development of the Gander proposition, "I ciannot un1derstand the Government's desire to evade dealing with 1my pr1opo,sals, as· is evident from Y ·our letter.

With re~a. rd to the co1nclukling para­ graph 1of your letter, you appear to overlook the fiact th,at the Reid Com­ panies and their a;ssoiates claim to own ALL of the property an.1d assets necessary for the Gan~cr development and their s·olicitors h.ave today served '

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 27 upon the Minister of Justice formal notice of intention 1 to proc .eed against the Government for damages i· n. con­ nection with the Gander prop .erties. Y1ours very truly, (Sgd.) A. S. BUTLER. St. John's, Newfo 1un·dland, Ma.rch 10th, 1931. To the Rt. Hon. Sir R. A. Siquires, K.· C . . M.G., Minister · of Justice.

Dear Sir: We are · in·structed by Reid New- foundland Company, Ltd., Mines & Forests (N ewfoun 1dland) Ltd., Ga.nder Valley Power & Paper Co., Ltd., and the Royal Trust ·Company to give Y ·OU notice that ·one mo1nth after d·a.te h·ere­ of it is the intention o• f our ·clients to pres-ent a petiti ·on1 to the . S.upreme C·ourt praying relief by way of dam·ages in the .sum ·Of $10,000,000.00 against the Gov·ernment of Newfound­ land for breach of contra ·ct on the· part oif tihe 1S ·aid Government arilsing out of:

(1) The issue of 22 writs of sun1- mons out of the Supreme C·ourt in May, 1930 in suits wherein His Majesty's Attorn 1ey General and the Minister of Agriculture an~d Mines were pla.1ntiffs anrt. the aforesaid Mines & Forests (Newfoundla ·nd) Ltd. !and other parties were the · d·efen 1dants, cl1aiming the forfeiture of cer ... tain lands h·eld by sairl de­ fendants under licenses fr· o1m1 the ·Crown to cut timber

(2) The issue in D·ecember last o.ut 01 f the Su.preme Court of 22 writs wh·erein the sa;id His Majesty's Att·orney General 1and the Minister of Agriculture and Mines were plaintiffs and . the aforesaid Mine · s & Forests (N ewf.oundland) Ltd. and Gan- ·der Valley Power & Paper Co., Ltd., 1and other parties were defendants, caiming the for­ feiture of ,certaill! lands held by the .said d·efe11dants ·under licens .es fr·om the Crown to ·cut timber.

All 0 1f the above name . d claimants ~re a·nd we.re at the ti1ne of the issue of said writs severallv i11terested in the properties the .subject matter ·of said writs and it is contended by th·em that· th~ sa,id writs were improperly issued an'O. in breach of:

(1) The co1ntr·act betw ·een the parties evidenced by such licenses.

(2) The agreement dated the l6tl1 1d·ay of Augu ·st and made be­ tween the Governm ·ent of New­ foundland of the one

part 1 a.nd the said 1Gander Valley P· o,wer & Paper Co. of the other p.art and ,of the extensions of said agreem ,en t.

(3) The said agreement ana ex­ ten.sion 1 s thereof, and of the un­ dertaking of the Government with the said Gander Valley Pow.er & Paper Co. C · O ·nt1a.ined in the Minute of ·Coun ·cil pass­ ed on the 4th day of August, 1930 an· d ·CO·mm.unicated by the Government to the said Gander Valley Pow.er & Paper · C'o., Ltd.

In c· o·nsequ ·ence of the said br· e. a.ches the 1cladl m1an ts suffered g. r.eat da·m,age in th·at the iands the subject matter of the said writs and ·other lands of the claimants were r·endered ·of less value to the clain1ants .an'd th'e claim1a.nts were hin·dered from sellin . g sami e as a.dvantage .ously as they might h,ave don·e, had the said writs never be·en iss-ue~d. The claimants Reid Newf·oundland Co., Ltd., Mines & For· eists (Newfound-

28 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS land) Ltd. and Gander Valley Power & Paper Co., Ltd., are incorporated under the laws of Newfottndland re­ garding co1mpanies and their respec­ tive Hea: d Offices ar· e situate in the Reid Building, Dliclrworth Street, St. John ·'s, Newfoundland. The claimant th· e R·oyal Trust Co. is a comp ·any incorporated under th· e laws of the Dominion of iCanada ·and authorized by special Act of the Le­ gislature of Newfoundl ·and to do bus­ iness in Newfoundland and its New­ foundlanid Office is situate at the Ban· k .of Montreal Bu.ilding, Water Street, St. John's.

It claims 1as Trustee for the holders of the bonds of the other claimants. The solicitors for the said claimants are Messrs. ·Conr ·oy & Conroy, whose a.ddress is Reid Building, Duckworth Street, St. J ohn·'s, N ewfo ·undland. Yours truly, (Sgd.) CONROY & CONROY, Solicitors for Petitioners. R.T. HON. THE PRIME MINISTER -Mr. Speaker, the foregoing mem· o \x.rhich I have just tabled for the b·en1e­ fit of the m·em'bers of the House was suhmitted to the Government on or about February 21st by Mr. Alan S. Butler.

I say on or a 1 bout the 21,st, as I am not sure whether it was r·eceived late on Saturday or early on Monday. I tab ,Ie that document without making any comment w·hat.ever on it in ord·er that the members of the Opposition may have the privileg · e of r·eading it before it comes lJefore the· House for discussion. Th· e Lead ·er of the Oppo ·sition has al­ so referred to the 1early opening of th· e Hou.se, and I · want to assure him it was not done with any intention of taking advantage of members - who were absent. No members of either House ap1proa 1 ch·ed me or notified me that t·hey would be unable to attend.

Neither directly nor indirectly did they seelr information as to tl1e date tl1e Hou·se would open. The Le1ad1er of th· e Oppo ·sition also r·ef erre · d to tl1e New Standardization Bill that is to be introduced. Stand­ ardization is no new id·ea. I believe it originate · d in the Book of Holy Writ or even b·efor 1e that time. I agree witl1 the ideas as to standardization as ex-.. . pressed by Nir. Alderdic · e· <l:nd am in full accord with Mr.

Monroe that th· e process of Standardization should be developed fro1n the stores to the foreign markets and that all goods that are shipped from this country to ot1tside markets should be good goods c111d should bear sucl1 a brand. This coin1cides e·xactly with th· e Policy Pro­ gramm · e and views of the pr·esent Government. B·e.fore taking my seat I would like to say that I hope the session of the House now in progress VY-ill be bright, ·brief and breezy, and productive o· f vaiuaible le1gislative measures. Before · adjournment of the House I ,~vould like to tak· e the opportunity of congratulating Mr.

Robert WalS'h, the veteran Se·rg.eant-at-Arms, wl10 is to­ clay with us taking the plac · e of a younger man who tl1rough illness is l.1nabl1e to attend. Mr. Walsh is one of the outstanding figures in this: House · and has been conn ·ected with it for the past fi1fty ye.ar· s and no1w at the age of ni11ety, he is as well and .strong · eno. u.g11 to' fill the breach caused 'by the illness of the reig;t1lar Se· r'geant-at­ Arm1s. Pursuant to .notice, Rt.

Hon. th· e Pri1ne Mi11ister moved that an humble Address be prese ·nted to His Majesty the l{ing pr·aying that he may be graciot1sly pleased to cause a Measur · e . to be laid before the Parliamelnts of the

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 29 United I{ing .dom of Great Britain and No.rtI1ern ·Ireland to give effect to ce.r­ taiil Declarations and Resolutio .ns set fortll in the reports of the Imperial con·ference holden : at \Vestminster in tJ1e fo11r yea1~s 1926 and 1930. on 111otion it \vas ·ordered that the said Add.res.s be referred to a co.1n- 111ittee of tl1e Wh,ole House on to- n1orro ·W. Pt1rst1ant to notice, and leave grant­ ed, and on n1otion of Rt.

Hon1• the Prin1e Mi.nister, the Bill entitled "An , Act to provide a N ation 1al Flag for Newfo .un:dland and Colours to be worn by Vessels,'' w;as read a fi.rst time, and it was ·ordered that the said Bill be read a second time 10· n to-morrow. Pursuant to notice and leave grant­ ed, a.nd on m·otion of Rt. I-Ion. the Pri.n1e lVIinister, the Bill e.ntitled "An Act to alter the Title ·Of the Colon-ial Secretary,'' was i·ntroduced and read a first time ancl it was or.dered th1at tl1e said Bill be read a seco ·nd time on to-morrow.

Pursuant to n·otice, and leave grant­ ed, a·nd on motion of Rt Hon. the Prime lVI:inister, the Bill entitled "An .Act to Amend the Act 20 George V.,

Chapter 3, entitled 'An Act Authoriz­ ing the Governor in Council to enter into a C· ontract with the American Telephone and Telegraph Company,',, \Vas introdu·ced ·and read a first time a.n; d it 'vas or.dered that the Haid Bill be read a second ti1 m, e O · n to-morr .ow. Pursuant to notice, and leave gra.n.t­ ed, and on motion of Rt. Ho.n. the . Prime l\i!inister, the Bill entitled "An A.ct to Amend the S·ummary Jurisdic­ tion Act, 1930," was intr . o.duced and read a, first time, ani d it was ord·ered that the s 1 aid Bill be read a second time on to-morr .ow.

Pursuant to n·otice, and leave gra11t­ ed, and on inoti .on of the Minister of Agricuture and Min1es, the Bill entitle{l "An Act Relating to the Keeping of Dogs," was in1troduced and read a first tin1e, and it 'vas ordered tl1at t11e said Bill ·be re\a.d a secon . d time on to­ m,orr1ow. Pursuant to notice, 'and lea1re gra11t- · ed. , and on motion of Ho1 n· . th; e So1licitor Gen1eral, the Bill entitled "An Act to A.me.nd the law relating to Life Insur­ ance," was introduced a.nd read a first time, and it was ordered that the said Bill be read · a s·ecand time on to­ morrow.

Pur.suant to, notice, an,d leave grant­ ed, and on motion of Hon. the Solicitor Ge11eral, the Bill entitled "An Act for the Preve .ntion ·O.f Fraud in relation to the Sale of Secur·ities," 'vas intro­ duced and read a first time, ,and it was o·rdered th·at the sai.d Billl be read a second time on to-m·orrow.

Pursuant to notice and leave gra.nt­ ed, a11d on motio111 of the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, the Bill e.ntitled "An Act relati 1ng to the Canning of Rrub1bits, Birds ,and Sib.ell Fish," was i1ntroduced a11d re,ad 1a first tin1e, and it was ordered . that the said Bill be read a se,cond time on to-mo ,rrow . Mr.

Bin 1 don( , on behalf of the Select 1 Committee app,oin1ted to draft a Reply to His Excelle .ncy tl1e Governor's Speech from the Throne, p 1 r·esented the Report of the Select Com·mittee, whic11 w.a.s, · O · n motton, received a;nd read as follows: To His Excellency, Sir J ·ohn Middleton, Knight Comma·nder of the M·ost Ex­ cellen .t Order of the British Empire, Companion of the Most Distin ·guish­ ed Or·der of Saint Michael •and Siaint George, ·Gover.nor and Comma ·nder­ i1n-C.hief in· 'and 0 1ver the C·olony of Ne"\vfoundland.

30 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS We, the 1C·ommons of Newfoundland in Legislative Sesston assembled, beg to thank Y·our Ex1c1ellency for the Graciou 1 s Spe·ech which Your Excel­ lency has addressed to both Bran1ches of the Legislature (Sgd.) JAMES BINDON, J. A. STRONG, J. H. S·CAMME,LIJ. On motion the deb.ate o. n the Address in Reply was deferred. M·r. Alderdic · e gave notice of q11es ti on. l\ifr Puddester gave notice of que s­ tion . . Mr. Emerson ga v· e notice of q ues­ tion. Mr. Winter gave notice of questio11. WEDN.ESDAY, March 18th, 1931.

The Ho.use met at three ·of the clock in the 1afternoon pursuant to adjourn­ ment. It was moved and seco ·nded that whe. n the Hou1se rises it adjourn until Mo:nday, March 23rd, at three of tl1e clock in th· e aftern ·oon. The Hou8'e then adj .ourned accord­ ingly. MONDAY, Ma1·ch 23rd, 1931. The H· o·1?1 S · e m:et 1at three of th 1 e clock in the after · n1 01o· n ·pur:suant to adjo11.nr1- .me·nt. O· n motior1 of the Rt. Hon. ti11~ _:-Jri111e Mr. Quinton gave n·otice of question. M'iinister, s1ec1on.ded by th· e Hon.

Leader It was m1oved and seconded that when the H.ouse rises 'it adjour · n until Monday afternoon next, 16th insta:nt, at thr·ee of the ·clock. T11e Ho11se then adjourned accord­ ingly. MONDAY, March 16th, 1931. The House met at three of the clock in the afternoon pursuant to adj.ourn­ ment. Rt. Hon. the Prime Mi·nister made an 1 nounc ·eme1nt of such informati ion as he pos1sesse · d C ·Onicerning the· loss of th e sealing steamer "Vikin 1g." Iit was inoved a!nd seconded that when the House rises it adjourn until v Vednesday afternoon next, at three of the clock.

The House ·then .adjourned accord­ in gly. • of th. e Opposition ! , 'tht e f.ollowing Re­ s-olu1tion 1 s wer· e prusse1d un: animousl~,r. RESOLVED: Thrut th:i!s House de- 1sires to rec· oird its : sinc. e· ~e sym·pathy with th· e :flami1ie1 s an·d rela:ti 'v·e'S o.f th· o1S'e N1ewfou rnJdl 1 an1d1ers ·who lost their liv.e.s, or · S ·uff.ered bodily injury, un·der su·ch tragic circum 1stan. c1es :i!n the Dislruster w·h:Lch b1 e1fell the 1S. S. Vikin .g.

BE IT FURTHER RIDSOLVED: That th 1 :i!s House d· e1sirie: s i t· o pl!ace o· n r·ec·ord 1 a· n ·ex: p1 r1es.si00l! of its .sin1 c1er1 e 1sy·mp. a1thy with the .fami'.lie1s an1d r1elatiy.e , s of V.arrick Fris1sell ian;d A. E P1eruro1d, citilz1ens of th1 e Repu1:lli1 c 1of the United States of .A!m·eric 'a, r·ep1orted 1am·ong· the .missiin l g in tli.e S. S. Viki\1rg. RJFJS10LVED: That th1s Hous · e de­ )si1 r1es to p.Jac1e on · ~ecor1 d .an, expTession of it1 s 1 a1pip·re1ciatio · n 1of .th· e s1ple· n1did ser­ vi~ ci es r1en1dered in con1n1e·ction wilth tl1· e Vikin . g Disa .ste· r by:-

(1) Otis Bartl 1ett, Wi.rel 1e1 s1s Operat­ or at Horse Island.

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(2) Ja· m·es V\Tinisor, erator at Exploits. Op- (3) 1Charles Wii'n1sor, Wir 1 e1le!SiS Op­ erator at Poirt Al1b·er1t. ( 4) A. E. Batsto 1 n•e, Wir1el 1 ess 0 1pe1r­ ator at Little Bay Islands. (5) lVIr:s. Malvin 1e Evan·s, Wire iless Op1erato · r iat 1Crumplbe·llton 1 .

(6) Paul Mo1ore1s, Wi1rele .ss Op·erat­ or at Twillin!gat ·e.

(7) A. J. C'r·ock· e:r, W'ii r·e'1e1ss O· p·er­ ato-r at St. J ohn' .s. (8) An1d ,the Op1eir 1 a.t1otr1s i. n ·Ch'. a.rge or ithe Ca·nadia · n 1M:'a, r ·con· i Wi1 r1e.le.ss Stati lon ,at Fog· o1• RT. HON. THE PRIME MINISTER -Mr. sve·aker, I WO·Uld ·call at11Jeiruti·on particularly to, the g, r'eiart h· e1lp r1en1de1r1ed by Mr. A. J. 1Qr: o, c1 k· e1r, who!se priv .at· e wi1reliess · b:ro1ad1 c, a1sting set wrus used for communicatiio 1n with M:r. Leslie o, f Po·rt Alb ie.rt an 1 d thu · s th· e t1r·an,smi.ssi 1on· of message 's m 1 ade poiSsi·b.Je b·etwee . n St.

Joh1n's a. n1d Ho· r1se Islan 1 d ,duirin i g th· e t1nfo· ~tu· n1 ate in1terrupti 101 n of the· 1 r1e­ gul1ar s1ervice 1be· c~ au, se of a b1r1ea. k in th· e land near Biadger. R.T. HON. THE PRIME MINIST 'ER -Mr. Spe1aker, I 1 b· e· g to1 tabl 1 e ,copy of telegr ·ap1h m1 e1 s 1 s ~ a. gie s1ent by me to· Se·al­ i1 n1 g Captain ; s am.d othe ,rs i1 n Bo1nlavi 1sta Bay i1n an1sw· e1 r to e1nqu'i 1 r, e1 s 3.\S to wh1e1ther a .st1e1am1e1 r wo·uld b, e :S1ent North t, o co·nvey seal 1e: r1s to St. John's. Nathan Wins .or, Esq., M.H.A., w .es- leyvill 1e, 1C1apt. J 1e1sse Win.so1r, Wesleyville , . Ca·pt. P.

S. 1 C1art· e1r, Gr· e1en1spond, C· a1pt. R. Houn r s1ell, Pinch ,ard's J,s- lainid, 1Cl a1pt. A. L. Blruckw · o,od, Wesleyvflle. Refe 1rri':rug YO· U1r mes1 sr a1 g1e re :Se' a1lers gettiin 1 g St. J ohn·'s fo, r· voy.age1 . Ow1ne,rs of ste1am1 e, r ab1so1lutely refu :se1 s, e,nd ste-amer f·or men1 . Rail w,ay Mrunag ·e- • ment ar1 e p1 r1epare , d seni d Sl a1gon·a. Fa'r:es will b1e 1colle ·cted in, ·advan · c1e .fro 1 m p·as­ s·enger · s in rth1e or1dtn1ary cours · e of stea , miship busi1n€s .s.

Any 1m'a;n1 h:avin . g ·berth to th· e ice ·and who is certified by R·eliievin · g Officer, Magistrate, or Ju,stic · e ·Of the Pea1ce 01r othe . r 1person as belin . g so deistituite th.at he ·can neither p1ay pa. s,sage nor ·secure advan 1ce fr1om frien 1ds rfor payment of p,as1sagie 1as i.s so rfreq t1en tly do·ne will give an 01rder on 1C·aptain wh10 h·as ,pr·omised him b· eirth fo· r· :pay­ me,nt fa1re O ·Ut 1of r'e1sults of voyage .. If 1by an'y mi1sadv· e1nture 1 a1ny in1div·1dual mlan m;ak1e· s nie)I 'bill 10)rde1r will th·en h 'av:e to be honour ·ed throu ,gh DeJ1 a·rt­ · m·ent Pu'blic 1Ch1 a,ritle !S.

If total n1u1mlb·er l)ass 1en1gers n1ot . s·ufficent p·ay c1ost stea . m1 e1r the diff er·en1c· e b1etwe1en, total . r1ec·ed·p'is from v.entu : r1e 1an1 d toital .cost wi!ll hav1e to ·be ta,ken a. s Y,ot· e 10 1f Le- 1gisl :atur 1 e on: Po1or Relie 1 f Acco ·un1t. Mtn­ i·ster Mari'n 'e a~ nr d Fish 'e.rie· s w· h1 0 has · c·onlduicted n: e1 go1 t~atio.ns with 1sealing 1 s1team 1er own1e1r1s and Railway M1a, n:age­ m1en.t wi 1 ll be te1egraphing y.ou di:r·ect. RI1 C 1 HARD A. SQUIRES. lVIr. Alderdi , c1e gave notice of que.s­ tio: ni . ·Mr. Pudd· e1 ste~ 1ga.ve no:tic 1 e 01 f que.s­ tiO!n1 . Mr.

E1merson , gav-e n :orti1c1 e of ques­ tio: n1 . M'r. M· o· o· r1e gave n'oti'c1 e 1oif qu1estion. Mir. AJb·bott 1giruve n1oti1 c· e· 01f qu1esti.on. M.r. Quinton g.ave n1otilc1e o: g que·sitio1n. Mr. Byr· n, e gav· e n1oitice 01 f que.stion .. 1Mr .. Win1 t1er g·ave n-0ti1ce oif qu• e1.stion. H :o1n, . the Minist 1er 1of Fi1na' n1cie tabled R· e1 p1 o·rt of th1e Auditor Gen,er'al on Re­ Vien1ue :an1d ·ap1 p1 r·opri 1 atloni for year en,d­ i'n\ g Juine 30th, 1930, also R1e. p1ort un,d.er S€ctio · n 33 (

b) of th1e Audit Act, 1 a:nd M1unici 1 p:al C1ou: n1 clil Accou . nits.

32 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS Rt. Ho1n. th1 e Pri,me Mi111ister · gave n1otice th·at he would 0111 tomor ·ro1w aslr le av· e to intro 1duc1 e a B'i: ll enititled "An Act to .i:\m,end the Act 20 G1e1orge V., Ch~p1 ter 9, .entitled 'An Act to 1p1rorvid1 e for the creation of a Pu1bli1c Utilities Commi 'ssio · n ·amd fo1 r th1 e Invest ·igatton 01 f Pri·ces an1 d Rate . s 1char ·ged to· the Pulblic.' " Rt.

I-Ion. . the Prime l\iltn'isiter gave notice t1h'at h· e W · O ·uld o: n· t10, m·or1rl()'\V ·aisk le1av· e t10 · i:nt1roduc 1e1 a Bill enrtitle 1d "An Act R1ela .. tin1 g to Extern :al AffaiT 1s. '' Pursuant to order .an1 d on motion o.f Rt.

Ho· n. . the Prim · e Ministe i r t'he Bill en1titled "An, Act to Amend th1 e Act 20 Ge. 01rge V., ·Ch.apter 3, en1titl 1e. d 'An Act Auth . 01ri'zi .ng th· e GoY.eT: n,or i1n1 1C1ouncil to Ent,er ·iint· o · a 1Co·n1tra1ct with the .Am1 e1ri· c: a.n Tele · p, h ·on1e a1n1 d T· e' l egr1aph C· 01m•pany,' ,, was r1e1ad a 1se1co· n1 d time, an1 d it w·a;s 1ord1e1 r1 e'd that the sa'id Bill be riefier'r·ed to 1 a . c ,om:mitte i e of the W; h , o I e H ou,se 01 n tomo ,rr.ow. RT. HON. THE PRilIE lllINISTER ---ll\.!-r.

Spe1aker, I beg to m10V1e t1l1, a1 t thi1s Bill entitled "An Act to Am1end the Act 20 George V., Ch. a.pter 3 entitled 'An Act Au,thoriz ;irug tl1e G·ofVie1 r: n:or· in Cou· n1cil to E!Iliter int.o a C10,ntracrt: with the Ame,ri'can Teleph 1one and Tele­ g:ra)ph Comp 1an;y'" 1be n · 01W r1 e·ad a seci o1nd timei.

Th· e B'i11· T1ecit1es th1e passing of an Ac, t of Parlirumem.t at th· e ses.s 1i1on, of 1929, wh·er1eby 1 ailll. ·agire ,ement w·as e1n­ ter·ed into 1 b1et,vee 1n1 the Newfoun 1dl1am. d G·ov.e.rn1m1ent a1nl d th1e Americ 1an1 Te1le­ p1h1one 1 a.TIJd Tele· gr, a~h 1Co1mip,any to the effect th·at the C101mpany would unde:r­ talre certJa.illl teleph 1one a1ctiviti 1 e, s i1n N·ewfot1n ,dla:n ! d, , their 1eiby 1co1n1n1ecting N1ewfoun 1dlan1d with the Conrt:i· n,en1t ·Of Ameri tca on the East 1side of the Atlan­ t ic 1and Great Britain, lr'el1an1d, i aind th. e 1Contin ,enrt of E1ur:ope on th1 e west side of the Atl.a •nti1c.

Th1e fra1nchi.se gr,an1t 1contai · n, e· d , a c1on1dition un1 d·er "'·;hic1h the fr' anch~s1 e would be ·foir'feit­ ed if te1lephonii 1 c c101 m1munication 1be­ tween Newfoun 1dl1an1 d 1a;n1d th· e M·ain­ lwnd of N· o1rth Ame,r11c. a wer'e n ,ot es­ tablishe i d befo 1 r, e. the 20th of Ju1 n·e, 1932.

The season during whic!h it is p, o,ssible to lay · c1alble ne,ar Newfoundland is ifron1 th· e 1mid1dle of May · oi r th: e fi.rst of Ju.ne until rubout :th . , fir 1st . 01 f S 1 e1ptem­ l b1e:rt T111e 1 C · O ·mple.ti 101 n datte ,a;b·ove re­ ferred to, th1er1efo.re, ,requir 1es thiat tihe , c,able be l.aiid .du1ri1n. g th·e sea,so· n of 1931. After the co,mple ition of thi e arra1nge­ m1e'llt with th1e Newfoun 1dla.nd Gove 1 r1n­ me1nt ithe Com1 p1am1y pr1oc1 e.eded with its wo.rk.

LanJdin i g ril g1hits in1 Irelan 1 d we1re arra . n!ged for, ·anJd 1dUr '.i: n, g th· e ye1air'S 1929-30 n1 e1ar1y on1 e hu1n.dTed wcre i s of land iru th1e C1ou;n-try M·ayo in the Irish Frr1ee State w·ere 1purc . h. a1sed ·by the 1C1om1 p: a·Il'Y ,at a 1c1ost ·of $20,000. A tw· e·nty-mile 1secti 1om. orf the pr·o1po1s-ed c.able wa1 s m·a;nufactu .re· d a1n1 d la,id off thi e landing site in Irieland for 1test pu.rpos ·es.

These 1tests w1ere co1m1pl1eted du.ring Juni e · a1n1d July of la.st ye·ar a1nd wer· e ·ernitilre1y , s1a;ti1sfructory ·Cable ships equippe 1d with son'iic 1d,epith fin 1de,rs w1er1e en·ga. g1ed to m1ake .accur .ate ·soun1din1g o, f the entire cou.rse o· f th· e 1eiabl1e between New1f10U1ndl 'and and the Ir'i1sh Friee State · . Th. e1 s1 e is. o.unld­ i1ng.s have 1been com·plete 1d.

N'e·ce-s1srury cor1porate rights we.re s ·ec·urei d in1 Can 1 ada, an1d the 1Co1mpany .am· d it.s 1C.an1 a.di.an 1su'b1si1di'a.ry 1en11 b1 a1rked upon the pr·ogramm 1e o, f a·cquiring th1e n1ec· e1 s1sary rig.hts of w:ay an1d buildi 1n1 g ,an entire1y new l 1 a,nd lin1e fro· m B· ani~o . r, Main ·e, to Syl d'ney Mines, Nova S1 c,otila. The 1 r~ght 1orf way . b1e.twe 1e· n B'an:gor, lVIaine, 1an1d th· e· U11ited Sta.tes- 1Ca;n1ruda bot1n;dary has 1all b· e·en se1cur- 1ed. Th· e right of way i.n1 New B1runs­ wi·cl{ an1 d Nova S· c1otta ha1 s ·be·en in

' HOUSE OF ASSElVIBL · Y PROCEEDINGS 33 Thi e c.able will be m1anufacitured U 'n­ d er . in ve' n ti o n1s m, a: d e ,by th'e· co, m. p1an0r, ail'd patents own.ed 1and 1c 1 on1tro1lle· d by it.

Con1side1 r1able tim1 e was o·ccupie 1 d in corucludin 1 g satisf:a ,oto.riy p'atent li,cem.s·es with cable ntanufa ,cturers wh 1 ich eithe 1r or both the 1Co! m1pany 'an .. d thi e· B.rtttsh Post Offi1ce d1esire 1 d to have qu,alified as bid1ders f1or the 1C ·able C 'On'struction contract. 'Dhe laist of the n·eCe1ss1airy' v1atent I:Ucen,se.s was entered into . in July, 1930, ,and th. e ·Com1pan· Y 1at t1 h·at tim1e im­ mediately hield ·prelimi 1n·a,ry di1sC'us·si 1 01n1s with th, e vario ·UH . m.an1ufactur · e1rs in, England and Germian ' Y re1ga.r1din1 g 1spe1c:Ufic1aitio·ns, c1ontr r1acts .a;n1d other m1anufact11rin 1 g d1et1ails. 'S.pe1cificatio .niS for th· e m1anu1tactu 1re 01f the 1c· a!ble were pla. c.ed in the han1ds of B1ri1tish 1and Germwn m.anit1f1actur ·ers in Augu ,st, 1930.

Iru O·ct1ob,er last · c.on'fe 1r1en. c1es in c.onne 1ctio;n wiith co1nt1r, a.cts for c1aJb'l1 e con1st1rUJction we·re held by 1rep·resent­ atives of t; h, e 1 C.omp1any with r1ep.r.ese·nt­ ative 1 s ,of th1e Britis 1 h Po•st 1 0ffic 1e and re:presen:tative ise ·of firm 1 s 1C 'a. p1rub 1 le of ten;derinlg· 1no. r 1SUC' h Ml un1 d1erta!kin .g.

As , a ·result 01f ·CO·n1fe. r, e· n1ces ~b1 etw· ee ' n the British Po•st Offi· c·e, the Ame~i.1c 1a1 n Telep 1 h i o· n· e 1an'd Telegra 1ph ,co, m,p,any, and th1 e re 1 presen 1tative : s .of th1e1 an­ tici: p,ated ca.Jble · C iontr .acti , n, g ·fi.r'ms, it 'vas foun 1d th'at it wo.uI: d be P'hysi 1 c•ally im'po1 s1si!ble to· complete thie cable in sufficient rti,me to h·ave it l1aid duri ·ng tl1os1 e m, o,nth· s o· f tihe p. r·e1s1en1t yea1 r of 1931 ·ais would be s .uita 1 ble fior ci a.ble­ layi •ng purp :oses.

It 1 h ·as to· be ·re. m· e1m­ b·ered that out of the twelve monlths • tl1ere ar· e but t1hree or three and a half m1on1th. s du.rtn 1 g whi1ch it i-s possible to lay a ca'ble in. the viciniity of Ne1w- 1fot1rudl·an:d, n1amely, Ju1n,e, July 'aJnd A_ugt1st, with a 1 p· o1 s1si'ble wee: k or t'vo in May. Fro· m Se1ptemb ·er 101f t ·his y1ear ,un.til the 1exp'iry O · f the perio .d, 1na,1n·ely, l\/I.a. y 101 f next y· eiar, i1 s an 1aib·soolut· e1ly · d· e·aid seaso 1n1 s· o fai r a· s ,caJble-l 1ayi'n 1g, eitJher fro :1n New·founldlan · d eiastw . a.rd or N1ewfoundla , n. d w·estw1ard, is 'C · O ·n­ cerne ·d.

I1 n this situ ia.tio· n t:he 1Com1pany ;a:skJs that the fran 1chise · b· e exte1nl d· e1d, ,as to ·COm1pletion, u11til tl1e end o· f th1e ye· a, r ·of 1933. It is n1ot n:ecess ·ary fo1 r me 1to. r1 e1f:e, r to 1bo·na tides in the, 'C1a1se ·Of a c1om1 p. a.ny · O · f suich a wortd stan1di 1 n· g 'a.S th· e Ame·ric. a, n Telie·plho· n· e 1an1 d Tele ,gr:apl1 'C,omp1 a·ny, a1nd I ·have ,alread . y give11 .evi1d1e1nc1e , o. f ithe \Vor· k · whic1h ; h· a. s 1 a~ l­ re.ady rbe.en: 1C1omp1le1ted, .

As · a fu,rh·er evi1den. c1e 01f good fla.itl1 o· f th·eir actr ·viti ies i· n thi's 1 c· o,nn. e1ction, I w.ou1ld say thiat i: n ·or.der t10 secure suffi.cienrt suppli•e 1 s 1of 1b.alata, th· e m,ate.rtal TI· eices­ s· a·ry 1fjo-r the i:n.sul.atio111 of the cable · , they ,purch , a! s· e· d a larlg<e· .pe. r1c·en1tage . of the er1tire W · 01rld' 1 s ·supply of tlhis miaterial, 1 c. 01veri.n : g 1a pe.rio 1 d 01f n ·eiarly t\V· O y·e1a: r·s, .ait , a cio· s t 10· f a p p, r oxim . a te I y a !n11illi 1o: n a· n. d a h .alf · d,ollars.

T1his m1ateri 1al comes fro1n s , o,uth Ameriic•a, an1d as the,re is 1but a limited supp 1ly pr• o1du1ce, d fio, r' the '\V01r :ld's m1a1 r·kets, i.t was neces . s·a·rY 'fo.r them ti o m: a.ke th:ese arra:n 1ge·n1.en1ts in ,aJdvia1 n1ce 01f ·ructual c101111s tru dtio 1n. Gutta p·ercha and B.al1at1a. h1ave , 'be·e· n th· e stan ,da.rd , m:ater 1i,als·. fo, r ' in1su.l.ation , o. f 1 de·ep sea eables .sin ·ce ·sub!ma.rine ca:ble1s were fi:rst m1a.n1 u:fa;ctured.

Thes · e materials .ar· e quite ·simil 1ar in ,com­ positton, · the gu1tta hy: d.rocarbons whi1c/h f.orm tJh·e ba.se , o, f e.ach b1ein:g the i: m1po.r.tant e1lem•ent whiich m;a1kes then1 suit.a ible. They :are su,pe:ri·or to. ,other ty,pe1s · oi f in1sulaitin : g . m:at·erial 1s flor tl1e follo 1win1g reas-0 1n1s :- •

• 34 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS

(1) They : bi e1 c1 01me plastic .at w1ar1n te· m1 p1e, r1aitu1res ·run1 d 1 c,an be r,eadily ex­ tru1de1 d ove: r a con·ductor in multiple layers in1 a contin 1uo1t1s she,ath 'vith gr.eat ex:acrtn1es· s , a·rud freedom f.ron1 1n1e1 c. h1an1i1 c1a.l d!e:fect,s. T,he mat, e.rial q ui1ckly sets to a ' h1ard tougl1 ciove,ring wlh1en dr1 a -vvn 1th:r'Ough c,ol1d w,a'.te1 r I I ;

(2) T'he elerctri1cal 1ch1 a. r1 a·cter · i1 s1ti1cs ar· e well ·adaipted to suibm1a.ri'n1e c1wble c10 n. s1tr u c ti1o::r11. Bangor, Maine,-Canadian Border (82 Miles) .-Survey ,v,ork has been completed and right of way purchas­ ed. N· o clearin · g or construction work has been starte ,d. The central office equipme11t for Ban· g,or was to b, e in­ stalled by the N·ew England Telephone Company. I understand that re­ q uisitio · n. s for the equipment were plac 1ed a few weeks ago. St. Croix River Crossing-Inter­ national Border.-Applicat _on f.or per-

(3) Th. e electri 1c,al a'n· d ·me.ch. a; nrical mit has been made, b·ut permits have ch1 a,rructe , r 1 istic , s 1ar· e , m:ain:t;ain1ed con- :not yet been secured. s1tant undier .sea lbotto 1 m ·conditions 01vie r . a ,gre1 a t . man, y ye·ar1s. ·TI1e 1aJb, o·ve chara :cteristics m'ak· e the Balata ,an· d Gutta P1erdl1a very s:a'iis­ f,acto 'r· y ~01 r tele 1gr 1 api h c1 a.ble1s, 1bt1t the d1iele .ctT'i, c,al lo1s1 s1e· s ar· e 1to· o high f,or the .requ'i.reme ,nits 1 01 f 101ng 'Cab1le1 s c1arry'i : n, g fr1e1q 1 uenlcies 01 f the voice ,rrun1ge, o: r :flor Sh101rter 1C lalble· S carrying car1rier cu·r­ renit · f.re·qu·en1ci1es.

F·or thi1s 1re. a1s, 01 n it W1ais nr e1ce1s.sary t10 fi'n1 d or· 1 d.evelo 'p a new in.sulatin , g material 'having simil 1ar ch1ar'acteris 1tics to, the b1alata , o: r gutta percha m· u·ch sup• e,r1o, r to 1them electr'i · c:ally. As a re­ sult, paragutta 'v· a1 s ·dev·e11ope1d. , · C 1 0. n1s-ist­ :i'ng of the · p1ur1ifie, d hy1dro-c .arborns ()1f b,alata a·nd of ru:brber with minor waxes to n11 0•dify the m·ech.ani• c,al • c.haracter­ iHtics.

B:al:ata, is u1sed in the m, a· n.ufaClture of p. a. r1agu1tt,a, sin1ce it 'i1 s m, o,re friee 'fr-0n1 im1pu,rities th1 a.n 1gutta perclh 1a, . a'n1d, be­ in, g in liqu,id for 'm. , C 'an b· e p1ro'duc·ed ,anJd tr·an·spo:rte1d m,ore 'r'e· a1di.1y. TI1e puTity · Or f the hydro-car lbo1 n1 s is ve1ry impo • r'tant from the stan 1dpo1 i1nt o· f di­ elec1tric los ises in the Io, n1 g su 1 b1 m,ariin · e telephon 1 e cab,les. A d'i1gest of th, e 1status ·Of tlh· e 1de­ ve1opment ,of· ith· e p. r,oject as 'at tl1e 24tl1 ·o'f Feibru ·ary, 1931, is a1 s fbllows: International Boundary, St. John, N.

B. (72.8 Miles).-The pole lin· e work is c·ompleted. Wire has been strung on 67 miles of pole line. The remaining wire work in this se·ction will be co·m­ pleted within th, e next week. Toll Ent1·ance Cable Worlr, St. J oh11, N.B. (32700 Feet).-Nearly all o. f the conduit work has been finished and the c·able an1d loading has been ordered 1and p.artially delivered. T'he New , Brunswick Teleph ,one C.01mpany 'vilI have an interest in this cable and con- 1duit. St. John, N.

B.-New Brnns1'vick­ N ova Scotia State Line (121 l\liles) .­ Surv3y work has been practically co,mpleted; 97% of th, e right of way l11as been optioned and 48% of the right of way p1urchased. 3-9% of the right of way has been cle,ared and poles have been set for 22 miles. N10 wire has been strung in this secti ·on. Nova Scotia-New Brnns,vick State Line-~ilmherst, N. S. (3~ Miles).­ Line wo·rk has been completed and the wire is str·urig. Amherst Toll Entrance Cable and Conduit- (2500 Feet). - Engine ·ering work haE" been completeu. c .onduit wo· r: k started De·cem ber 1st, 19'30-. •

• HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 35 Anilierst _ N e1v Glasgow ( 86~2 lliles)._:.....P,ole line a.nd wire work com­ ... t d Wire temporarily cut into both ple e . offices. ~ elr Glasgo 1v Toll Entrance Cable A~d Conduit (Approximately 6,000 Feet).-En ,gineering work has been co·mpleted. This Maritime Company is to have a reservation in a part of this cable and conduit. N e'v Glasgow to Strait of Can so (64.4 ]files).-Survey has been c,on1- pleted; 91 % of the right of W 'aY op­ tioned; 90% of rig.ht of way purch ,as­ ed; 85 % of clear'i ·ng finished; 27 miles of pole line c,onstructed; 20 miles o.f \Yire strung.

Strait oi Canso. - Engineering work bas been completed and right of way sec11red. Strait of Can so-SJ·dney Mines (85 1'Tiles).-Appr ,oximately 70% of the right of \Vay has been staked. About 70% of the right of way has been O ·P­ tioned . N 01ne of the O ·Ptions fhave been taken up. No clearing or pole line work has been done. SJrdney Mines, N. S.-A lot has been purchased 0nd architects plans l1ave been completed f.or the pr·oposed building. Bids have not Y ·et been secur­ ed from contra 1ct101rs for the er,ecitton of this building.

Permit has been obtain­ ed from the Dominion Govern1nent for the Sydney Mines-Port aux Basques cable lan,ding. Port a11x Basq11es, Nfld.-Prelimin­ ary survey work has been completed. The "\vork is un·der way to secure op­ tio11s on bttilding sites. Grand Bank, Nfld.-Real estate for a building site has been optio·ned, total cost to be approximately $4,500. N elv Pe1·lican, Nfld.-Application has been filed \Vi th the Newfoundland Gov­ ernment for about 20 acres of Crown land and an option has been secured on S ·ome private property in the centre of this tract to cost approximately $1,000.

Burin Pe11insula and Avalon Isthmus. -Preliminary surveys have been completed of proposed overlan 1 cable routes a.cross the Burin Peninsula and the Avalon Isthmus. Termoncarragh, lrela11d.-Land has been purchased for a building site. The Bell Telephone Labo ,ratories are conducting experiments on this site at present and have laid son1e test cables. Central Office Eq11ipment.-Orders have been plac ,ed on the Northern Electric Company for central office equipment installation . s for St. John, N. B ., A1nherst, N. S., New Glasgow, N.S., a.nd Sydney Mine ,s, N°· S.

Some en1gineering work has b,een completed but n· o manufacturing has as yet been starte ,d. I wo·uld ciall atten.ti ·on p.arti1culiarly to 1the :fa1crt thiat the p.reli.m ,i'n1ar· y .su·r­ very work !h:a.s be,en 1co1m1 p1le1te1d at Port ·aux Ba.sque , s and 1 01ption 1 s 1ar, e b·ein : g se1 c,ured .on nec,ess,ary site ' s there, that 01 p1t1o·ns · h,ave 1 bee1n secured i. n1 ·connec­ t£on with site i s ~ at Graind Banik ·an 1 d also at New Perlic ,an1 ; p, r1elimin1ary .surv;eys ' h1ave ·bee'n com·plet1e: d 1of ove,rl1and c·alble rout0s a1cros 1 s the Burin Pei n1i:n.sula ,anld the Ist\hmu · s o, f· Avalon.

The ma:in 1poin1ts i.nJ c101n·nectioin with the ro·uit1e of th, e 1cable ,from New Y1 01rk a·re Boiston, Portla j n1d, B,an1go1r, 'St. Joihn, N . . B., Am:JJ.e, r1st, N1e, w Gl1asg1o·w, S1yidney Mines. These :are lan•dlin 1 e servic 1es; 1calble from Sy1dney Mine 1 s to Port ·aux Birusques; cable fro1 m Port aiux B·asq u, e, s to Grand B1ank; 1ditc llring

36 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS a;cr, o· s1 s Bu·rin Pe,ni.rusula, tl1ence by ·cabl , e to a po, i.nt O 'll' the lisith1n11s o, f Avalon, d.itchin · g ac,ros1 s in\tO· Trindty ' l3ay; 1tl1e· n1ce to N e· w Per 1 lic. a'n an 1 d fro . m New Perlican to Ter· m1onc,arragh, Irelrund. 'Dhe P·articular 1 s th:at I qu1ote in 1con­ ne1ction 1 'vith th, e Co1np1 a·ny .are author­ itrutJtve·, as .are al·so the pla· n1s, in· t,J1at I s1ecured them peTson .ally from Mr. John H. Ray, · 01n1 e of th1e ,sen'i 1 0. r co·un.se1 for tl1· e con1p . a'nry. 1\1{,r.

Ray w·as the a;t­ to, r'n.ey who vii1sited Ne,,v:fiou·ndl1anc1 in conn e1ction . with · n·eg.otiation1s he,re. I hiad confere ·nces ·with !hiim in Lond ,on du.ring November last, ·an'd had further conlferen 1 c. e1 s with him 1an1d 'viith seve . r,al of 1th1e leadin : g 1exe·cu1tivie o• f ithe co.m­ pa' n~y i1n N·evv York, 1d11rin: g the first wee1k 10.f Decem 1ber ·oif lrusit ye·ar. It i! S not n1 e1ces1sa:ry fo, r !me to s.ay that I am is·ati1sfie · d that the Americ .an T·elep .ho111 e a•nd Tel·egr1aph Corn ,painy are 1capabl · e of ca,rry;i · n1 g thr10·llgi h this un1der1taking.

I fe·el th'at it is also t1n­ n1 e1 c· e1ssary for me to off·er •any further a;ssur .an1ces to this Ho1use· that they have ·alre ·ady gon : e ·a lon, g way towa . r1dG thie carry 1inJg out of their pr· o1gra.rn.,m1e.

Th.eir inrvestn1 1e· n1t in the u·nde.rtal{ing alre ·ady r·epres · e·nts :an exne 1nditure of ·Seve ,ral m1ill:Lo, n d· oll1 a~ rs, 1an .. d with thi1 s ex·ten1sio· n I feel confident th·at be1fore th·e en1d of fill. e year 1933 the ca,rrying on o.f . a telephon 1 e · c10 1nversatd.o : n be­ tween Newfou · nldlan : d a1 n1d 1th. e •Co1n­ tinent of North Ameri 1ca to the west an.1 d soi.1th, ·and Gre.at Britai !n, Ireland a·nd 1tJhe C·on1tfn.en·t of Europe to the e·ast an1 d s·outh 'viII 1b· e a p~actic1 al ac­ complish .men1t.

I ,conse ·qt1ently move ith1a1 t tl1is Bill be n1ow re.ad a se1co'n1 d time, a,nd in d0- in 1 ~ 1so re.commen 1 d i1 t to the favo .ur 1 a·ble ­ con1side ,ration · o: f the Legislature . • Pursu .ant to 0 1rder an1 d o·~i.1 • m.oition of Rt. H~on; . th· e Prime Mfin'i.ster- tl1e Bill ell!titled "An· .Act to provide a N· a.tio1nal Flag f-0r N ewfoum.:dlan · d 1an1 d •Coi l ours t10 be worn by ve1ssels," wrus rea'd a secon 1 d ti1n1e. PurrSu : a,nt ·to O ·rder 1a111 d on mortio11 01f Rt. H 1o·n. the P·rime Minis 1ter th· e Bill en titled ,. ,

An Act to· alite. r the Tiitle oif th· e ·Colo 1nial Secreta ·ry," w.as r: eiacl a secQnd rti.1ne. RT. HON. THE PRIME MINISTER --...:Mr. S1peaker, the proceedure vVhich I : b,ad i. n ten ,ded ito 1su1ggest in1 Cl(}1 n· n.ec­ 'tio· n with th· e handling of rth· e1se1 Con­ istituti ·onal an·d Imp.e