Ontario Hansard — 24 February 2014 (40th Parliament, 2nd Session)
2014-02-24
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February 24, 2014
40th Parliament, 2nd Session
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L104 - Mon 24 Feb 2014 / Lun 24 fév 2014
LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO
ASSEMBLÉE LÉGISLATIVE DE L’ONTARIO
Monday 24 February 2014 Lundi 24 février 2014
INTRODUCTION OF MEMBER
FOR NIAGARA FALLS
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
OLYMPIC ATHLETES
ORAL QUESTIONS
JOB CREATION
ENERGY POLICIES
JOB CREATION
JOB CREATION
GOVERNMENT INVESTMENTS
JOB CREATION
HEALTHY LIVING
ENERGY POLICIES
HOSPITAL FUNDING
FAMILY CAREGIVER LEAVE
WIND TURBINES
HORSE RACING INDUSTRY
ENERGY CONSERVATION
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TRADES
GO TRANSIT
ESTIMATES
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS
LONG-TERM CARE
EMPTY BOWLS CAMPAIGN
HEART MONTH
CANADIAN INTERNATIONAL AUTOSHOW
GASOLINE PRICES
SILVERHEARTS ASSOCIATION
IDIOPATHIC PULMONARY FIBROSIS
STUART HARTNELL
LARISA YURKIW
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
MAKING HEALTHIER CHOICES ACT, 2014 /
LOI DE 2014 POUR DES CHOIX
PLUS SAINS
STATEMENTS BY THE MINISTRY
AND RESPONSES
HEALTHY EATING
PETITIONS
LYME DISEASE
OFF-ROAD VEHICLES
CHILDREN’S AID SOCIETIES
ONTARIO DRUG BENEFIT PROGRAM
GASOLINE PRICES
FAMILY SAFETY
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
DOG OWNERSHIP
DISTRACTED DRIVING
PHYSIOTHERAPY SERVICES
PROPERTY TAXATION
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TRADES
ASTHMA
CHARITABLE GAMING
MOTIONS
ORDER OF BUSINESS
ORDERS OF THE DAY
INTERIM SUPPLY
CONCURRENCE IN SUPPLY
The House met at 1030.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Good morning. Please join me in prayer.
Prayers.
INTRODUCTION OF MEMBER
FOR NIAGARA FALLS
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I beg to inform the House that the Clerk has received from the Chief Electoral Officer and laid upon the table a certificate of the by-election in the electoral district of Niagara Falls.
The Clerk of the Assembly (Ms. Deborah Deller): A certificate of the by-election is addressed to Mrs. Deborah Deller, Clerk of the Legislative Assembly, and it reads as follows:
“Dear Mrs. Deller:
“A writ of election dated the 15th day of January, 2014, was issued by the Honourable Lieutenant Governor of the province of Ontario, and was addressed to Wayne Campbell, returning officer for the electoral district of Niagara Falls, for the election of a member to represent the said electoral district of Niagara Falls in the Legislative Assembly of this province in the room of Kim Craitor, who, since his election as representative of the said electoral district of Niagara Falls, has resigned his seat.
This is to certify that, a poll having been granted and held in Niagara Falls on the 13th day of February, 2014, Wayne Gates has been returned as duly elected as appears by the return of the said writ of election, dated the 21st day of February, 2014, which is now lodged of record in my office.”
It is signed:
“Greg Essensa
“Chief Electoral Officer
“Toronto, February 24, 2014.”
Mr. Gates was escorted into the House by Ms. Horwath and Mr. Bisson.
Ms. Andrea Horwath: Speaker, I have the honour to present to you and to the House Wayne Gates, member-elect for the electoral district of Niagara Falls, who has taken the oath and signed the roll and now claims his right to take his seat.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Let the honourable member take his seat.
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
Mr. John Yakabuski: I have a number of guests here this morning, so bear with me, please: from the township of Bonnechere Valley, Mayor Jennifer Murphy; from the town of Petawawa, Mayor Bob Sweet, Deputy Mayor Tom Mohns and Councillor James Carmody; from the county of Renfrew, CAO Jim Hutton and his friend Tracy Tuttle; and from the township of Laurentian Valley, Mayor Jack Wilson—who this year celebrates 50 consecutive years of elected office—and his good wife, Evelyn. I think I have them all. They’re here at the OGRA/ROMA conference, and they’re in the members’ east gallery, keeping an eye on the government.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: I believe we have the unanimous consent for all members to be permitted to wear lapel pins in recognition of Heart and Stroke and Cancer Society lobby day at Queen’s Park.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The Minister of Health and Long-Term Care is seeking unanimous consent to wear the lapel pins. Do we agree? Agreed.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Speaker, I have some introductions. We are very blessed today to have a number of individuals with us from the Canadian Cancer Society and the Heart and Stroke Foundation in both the public gallery and the members’ gallery.
I would like to introduce Michael Perley, who is the executive director for the Ontario Campaign for Action on Tobacco; Tom McAllister, CEO of the Heart and Stroke Foundation, Ontario; Maggie Fox, Rick Pettit and Navdeep Bains, who are all board members at the Heart and Stroke Foundation; Mark Holland, director of health promotion and public affairs at Heart and Stroke; and Cindy Dunn, vice-president of the Heart and Stroke Foundation. Welcome, all.
Mr. Wayne Gates: Speaker, I’d like to welcome my wife, my daughters and grandchildren, my sister and all my friends to the House today.
Mr. Frank Klees: Speaker, page Michael Sadono is head of the pages today. I want to extend congratulations to him and also welcome his father, Andre Sadono.
Hon. David Orazietti: Speaker, I want to just take a moment and congratulate the Brad Jacobs curling team from my riding of Sault Ste. Marie, who won gold in Sochi. Thanks, Speaker.
Mr. Todd Smith: It’s a pleasure to welcome the mayor of the municipality of Tweed, Jo-Anne Albert, to the Legislature today, along with one of the councillors from Tweed, Jim Flieler. The reeve from Carlow/Mayo township, Bonnie Adams, is here as well. The mayor of Hastings Highlands, Vivian Bloom, is with us as well, and also Cindy Cassidy from the Eastern Ontario Trails Alliance. They’re all in town for the Ontario Good Roads Association and the Rural Ontario Municipal Association conference. Welcome to the Legislature.
Mr. Paul Miller: I’d just take this opportunity, as the sports critic, to congratulate all our Canadian athletes for the fine example. I’m over the moon about our hockey teams and curling teams—absolutely fantastic.
Mr. Rick Nicholls: It’s a privilege again to rise in the House and introduce the mother of page Emily Anderson, Kye-Young Kwon. She’ll be in the public gallery this morning.
In addition, I had the opportunity of enjoying a Chinese New Year on Saturday with the Essex County Chinese Canadian Association. Present in the gallery today is Henry Lau, along with Eric Renaud and Josh Chaifetz.
Ms. Peggy Sattler: I’m pleased welcome in the gallery my son, Jon Bradford, who is a political science student at the University of Waterloo and is here today to see democracy in action.
Mr. Monte McNaughton: I would like to welcome to Queen’s Park today Rob Murphy from Murphy Bus Lines back in my riding of Lambton–Kent–Middlesex. Welcome.
M me France Gélinas: Moi aussi, j’aimerais remercier tous les gens de la Société canadienne du cancer et de la société des maladies du coeur, qui sont ici aujourd’hui pour leur journée.
I wanted to wish everybody who came from the Canadian Cancer Society and the Heart and Stroke Foundation—thank you for your support and thank you for being here.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): We have with us today in the House two students from the University of Akron Canadian studies work experience program. They’re in the gallery up here to my left. Please join me in welcoming Brandyn Costa and Dylan Fonner as they begin their 10-week placement at the Legislative Assembly, working with the members for Vaughan and Davenport. Welcome to Canada. We’re glad you’re here with us.
Also today in the Speaker’s gallery, we have with us the interns from the Manitoba Legislative Internship Program, who are here to meet with our legislative interns. We’re glad you’re here. Welcome.
Finally, some of you may have noticed that I have left the beard caucus, and I have joined the competition with the member from Niagara Falls on the moustache caucus.
I have to share with you a tweet I received. I said that the beard was coming off if we won the quad, and someone wrote back and said to me, “Let’s be Canadiana about it: We scored the double-double.”
I know we’re all very proud of our Olympians, the staff and coaches and all the parents for the support that they’ve given. We did a darned good show, and we let the world know that we are not taking second seat to anyone in the world.
OLYMPIC ATHLETES
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The Premier on a point of order.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I know all members will join with me in congratulating all of our Ontario athletes and our Canadian athletes, quite frankly—all of our Canadian athletes who competed at Sochi Winter Olympic Games. It’s been a fantastic few weeks for all of us who have been able to watch as 34 of the 63 Ontario athletes competing in the games reached the podium. But to all of our athletes, thank you for inspiring us and making us proud; and, as the Speaker said, to the coaches and the families for your support; and the communities, quite frankly.
I also want to wish good luck to our Paralympic athletes, who will be competing in Sochi in the coming weeks.
Congratulations again. Félicitations.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The Leader of the Opposition on the same point of order.
Mr. Tim Hudak: Yes, on behalf of the Ontario PC caucus, I want to just say how incredibly proud we are of the extraordinary Canadian athletes, the Ontarians, who made each and every one of us stir with Canadian pride in celebration of the Sochi games.
It was a great experience for me too—and I think Lisa and others might be in the same boat—my first time to watch the Olympics with my daughter. We got up early Sunday morning to watch the hockey together. She got it, at six years old. In her school, they had the medal count for gold, silver and bronze—and what that stirred in her as a proud Canadian and—who knows?—maybe a future athlete—not to raise expectations too high. But as a family, it was a fantastic event. Just like Ontarians watching today, I’m really proud to be part of that experience.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I recognize the leader of the third party for the same point of order.
Ms. Andrea Horwath: It’s my pleasure, on behalf of New Democrats, to also congratulate everyone who was involved in the Olympics at Sochi from Canada: the athletes, of course, and all of their trainers, the coaches, the family members. It takes a village to actually raise a child, and it takes a fantastic country to raise such great athletes. I think we’ve proven to ourselves and to the world that we’re that fantastic country.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I thank all members for their comments.
It’s now time for question period.
ORAL QUESTIONS
JOB CREATION
Mr. Tim Hudak: My question is to the Premier. Premier, as we begin the week, sadly, in Liberal Ontario—the Liberal government’s—there are a million people without work.
I recently spoke to a man in Niagara Falls who lost his job at John Deere, part of the 300,000 manufacturing jobs lost. He talked to me about the impact on his ability to pay the mortgage, to pay the bills. Very importantly, first he started out with the impact on his pride as a human being, as a dad, to provide for the family. He did get a job parking cars for 11 or 12 bucks an hour, but he said, “Can’t we do a lot better than this?”
It’s because of people like that that I brought forward my plan, the million jobs plan, to create a good million jobs in our province—well-paying, middle-class jobs.
Premier, part of my plan is to lower taxes for all businesses to actually hire in the province again, instead of giving out corporate giveaways to the well connected.
Isn’t it time to lower taxes to create jobs and help people like this man in Niagara to get a good job and provide for his family again?
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Stop the clock, please. Be seated, please. Thank you.
Premier?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I absolutely support the notion and we are working very hard to make sure that we make the right investments in people, the right investments in infrastructure, and that we partner with business, that we create those partnerships that will allow jobs to be created.
What I do not see from the Leader of the Opposition is any way in which driving labour down, driving good jobs out of the province, cutting and slashing across government, and not partnering with business, all of which are pillars of his plan—I do not see how those tactics will create jobs.
We have created more than 440,000 net new jobs since 2009. Employment went up last year. We’re going to continue on our plan.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Tim Hudak: I think the Premier mistakes my plan with her own. There’s no doubt that the Premier’s plan has bankrupted our province. It has cost us 300,000 manufacturing jobs, and you put us deeper and deeper into debt. I think, Premier, if the plan’s not working, isn’t it time to try something bold, something new, and something that’s optimistic and says that Ontario can lead again? That’s my plan. That’s my Million Jobs Act.
For example, Kellogg’s recently announced the closure of their plant in London. You gave Kellogg’s a big corporate handout to create a small number of jobs, and in return, we’re losing 600 or 700 jobs in London. We don’t think that works.
You now have a plan before you—I think you’re taking it to cabinet—to do billions more in corporate handouts. You have a question before you of if we should give Chrysler $700 million or $1 billion. You’ve given handouts to Ubisoft and Samsung.
My point of view: Instead of corporate handouts to the well connected, why don’t you lower taxes for all businesses in every sector to succeed? That should create jobs and create long-term, middle-class jobs in our province. That’s a better way.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I think the Leader of the Opposition knows that taxes have been lowered in our jurisdiction and we are competitive. He also knows that the HST, which was a Conservative policy that we implemented, was done expressly for the manufacturing sector, and the manufacturing sector knows that was an important move.
What the Leader of the Opposition is talking about is walking away from the people who are working in plants in Oshawa, in Oakville, in Brampton, in Woodstock and in Windsor. He’s talking about reversing a policy in this province to work with and support the auto sector that has been in place for decades. I do not believe that he has thought through this policy, because to abandon the auto sector and the auto parts sector in Ontario would lose hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): While I’m standing, I would appreciate the attention given to me by the Minister of the Environment, along with those who want to shout down somebody, so let’s cool it.
Final supplementary, please.
Mr. Tim Hudak: Premier, you have created a province of Ontario with higher taxes, unaffordable energy rates, and more and more red tape. That means the only way for a business to open up in Ontario is you have to bribe them with hundreds of millions in taxpayer subsidies. That’s basically what it is. I think you should start saying “no” to the corporate extortion that you’ve got yourself into.
Where are you going to draw the line? I think it is better to lower taxes for all business to succeed, to get affordable hydro in the province of Ontario again, to get the heavy-handed government off their backs so they can succeed.
Now, it’s just not me saying that. Your own economist, Don Drummond, said that your corporate welfare policies were not working. He said we should get out of that business, Premier, and I agree. Let’s actually create an environment, whether you’re in the auto sector, whether you’re in agribusiness, whether you’re in financial services, whether you’re in high-tech—I want to see all rise in the province of Ontario. I want to see them all invest and create jobs. My question is, why don’t you?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: What I would say is, why does the Leader of the Opposition not understand that partnering with business and supporting business—and particularly in this case, we are talking about the auto sector. That partnership is decades old. The naïveté associated with the Leader of the Opposition’s position is quite stunning.
I go back to 1996-97, when there was $746 million put into businesses in the province during the Harris years; 1997-98, $425 million; 1998-99, $360 million; 1999-2000, $414 million; 2000-01, $717 million.
Mr. Speaker, apparently the Leader of the Opposition and his colleagues used to understand that it was important, in order for us to compete globally, that we work with business, that we put those supports in place. Apparently he’s lost the thread.
ENERGY POLICIES
Mr. Tim Hudak: Back to the Premier: Premier, I was there. I was part of cabinet, and what did we do? We lowered taxes, we had affordable energy rates, we got off the back of business and the results: We created an environment for 1.1 million new jobs in the province of Ontario.
Let me point out your other major economic error that’s chasing jobs out of the province. The biggest area of subsidies from the McGuinty-Wynne Liberals is the unaffordable handouts to wind and solar projects. The full tune is some $46 billion. You thought you would build an industry where everyone could work at a wind farm or at a solar panel factory. We’ve actually lost jobs. For every short-term job we create, we lose four in the broader economy.
Isn’t $46 billion an awful expensive price tag to actually cause jobs to leave the province of Ontario? Just end that program. I would.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Be seated, please. You tricked me there.
Premier?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Minister of Energy.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: I’m sure the Leader of the Opposition supports a healthy community. There’s nothing more important to our party than the health of our citizens. Health has always been our top priority. Clean energy is helping to replace and has in fact replaced dirty coal. That represents—
Interjection.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: —of $4.4 billion in environmental and health care costs.
Mr. Speaker, we had to build a surplus of energy in this province. We did it by also eliminating dirty coal, and we have built a safer, healthier community as a result of that.
Wind now represents less than 4% of our generation in the province of Ontario. Less than 4% is not the doomsday scenario that that Leader of the Opposition is claiming it is. He’s exaggerating, and he’s not telling the truth.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Withdraw.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: I withdraw, Mr. Speaker.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I’d like to get to the next question.
Supplementary?
Mr. Tim Hudak: Back to the Premier: One thing I don’t know if you’ve ever noticed is, it seems like these grants hardly ever go to Ontario companies. They’re almost always going to international companies. Maybe it’s because you want to cut a very expensive ribbon.
For example, the biggest area of subsidy has been Samsung. Samsung, a Korean-based company, has become incredibly rich. You would never give money to a competitor of BlackBerry, right? You would never tell the people of Kitchener, Waterloo and Cambridge that you would give out hundreds of millions of dollars to their big competitor Samsung. But that’s precisely what you’ve done. I don’t know how you can reconcile this to taxpayers and say you’re taking money out of their pockets and taking money out of businesses with your higher hydro rates to hand it over to an international competitor.
Clearly, this is a policy that we can’t afford. It’s costing us jobs, it’s biased for people’s investments outside the country, and we are hurting our own companies.
Premier, why don’t you abandon this misguided expensive policy and support my million jobs plan to put people back to work in our great province?
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Be seated, please. Thank you.
Ministry of Energy.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: Minister of Economic Development and Trade.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: Frankly, I can’t believe what I’m hearing, because a lot of the support goes to those great Ontario-based small, medium- and large-sized businesses. Just last Friday, I was in Cambridge, and we provided support through the Southwestern Ontario Development Fund for a great Ontario company, Cambridge Towel, and I know the people who are aware of that company understand just how important it is. We continue to support that made-in-Ontario company. Another company, Meridian, which manufacturers containers for our agricultural industry right across this country—provided support as well on Friday through the Southwestern Ontario Development Fund.
Frankly, Mr. Speaker, I understand that if the member opposite, if the leader of the official opposition, can’t see the importance of those made-in-Ontario investments, it’s because his party and he didn’t support the Southwestern Ontario Development Fund—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Answer.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: —which together, in the last year and a half, have created and retained more than 24,000 jobs, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Final supplementary?
Mr. Tim Hudak: One of the games, Speaker, my daughter learned in school is hot potato. It looks they’re playing a bit of hot potato over there. Everybody is trying to answer the question except the Premier.
The reason it’s a hot potato is because it’s bad economic policy. Your Green Energy Act subsidies don’t make any sense. The jury is in, Premier. It’s costing us jobs. There is a better way: to stop the subsidies and get affordable hydro for all.
Also, you’re forcing this project into communities that don’t want them. You’re not even enforcing your own rules. For example, in West Lincoln, the Niagara Region Wind Corp. and HAF Wind Energy Project—those projects are in a state of chaos. Five turbines have been built as part of that wind project, but three of them don’t even meet your property line setbacks. They’re effectively breaking the law. It seems to me, if somebody breaks the law, then you take out the turbines; you make sure you follow laws in the province of Ontario. You’d think that would make some sense.
Here’s the bottom line: It costs us jobs, and it divides communities. You’re not even enforcing your own laws.
Why don’t you get rid of the misguided, outdated policy and support my plan? It will bring good jobs back and help the former John Deere employee work in the province of Ontario and provide for his family.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Be seated, please. Thank you.
Minister.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: Again, I just don’t understand where the member opposite is coming from with this million-job-loss plan. Quite frankly, we already know that if he gets into power, his party is going to cut 10,000 jobs among education workers and thousands more in the health care sector.
He has already indicated he didn’t support the Cisco investment, which is bringing 3,700 jobs to this province. We already know that he didn’t support the auto sector in 2009. Frankly, if the party opposite had had their way, we wouldn’t have an auto sector.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Northumberland, the member from Huron–Bruce and the member from Simcoe–Grey will come to order.
Finish, please.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: I know these are challenging times across the province, particularly in the Niagara region. I acknowledge that. But that’s why I was proud to announce just recently two investments, again through the Southwestern Ontario Development Fund: Niagara Piston in Beamsville and Indexable Cutting Tools in Welland. I was at the opening of Original Foods in Dunnville in the Niagara region, as well. More than 100 jobs were created there, importantly, in a community that really needed that help because of previous closures.
JOB CREATION
Ms. Andrea Horwath: My question is for the Premier. Over this winter, the Premier had numerous opportunities to visit Niagara. How would she describe the state of unemployment in that region?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: First of all, I want to welcome the new member for Niagara Falls. Welcome to the House.
I did have opportunities to visit Niagara Falls before the by-election was announced and after. I know that there is a lot of work to be done in that community and in other communities across the province, which is why we have a six-point plan, which is why we know that investing in infrastructure—I heard about infrastructure investment and the need for investment in Niagara Falls—
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Like maybe a hospital.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: —whether it’s a hospital or whether it is transit, making sure we have the right GO Transit and the right municipal transit. Those kinds of initiatives and investments are very, very important. That’s why infrastructure investment is very much a pillar of our economic plan.
We will continue to work with Niagara Falls. We will continue to work with communities across the province and make sure those supports are in place.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Andrea Horwath: What we heard from families was that they’re feeling the squeeze, that they’re worried about jobs. There were over 100 families that relied on a paycheque from Vertis who are wondering how they’re going to pay the bills now that the plant in Fort Erie has closed its doors. Ninety people from Redpath in Niagara Falls are going to see an end to their paycheques in May.
Will the Premier tell those people that she thinks her six-point jobs plan is actually working?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: What I can tell the leader of the third party is that there are situations where companies have made changes, and there have been jobs losses.
There are also situations where jobs are being created. Just on Friday, I believe, the Minister of Children and Youth Services made an announcement in Windsor of an investment in Thomas Canning: $3 million. There are 40 new jobs in a food processing plant. There are those kinds of investments and the companies that the Minister of Economic Development Trade was talking about; they’re Ontario companies. They’re small and medium-sized enterprises. They are the kinds of businesses that we know need support in order to be able to invest, in order to be able to expand and create jobs.
That’s what we’re doing. That’s the work that we’re doing, and we are seeing those jobs stay and come to Ontario. There’s more work to be done.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Final supplementary?
Ms. Andrea Horwath: For years, the Liberals have insisted that corporate tax giveaways, the HST and private power schemes would bring prosperity to Ontario, and they promised 600,000 new jobs.
Can the Premier produce any evidence whatsoever of those 600,000 jobs?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: More than 400,000 of them have been created since 2009.
I hope that the leader of the third party is supportive, for example, of our wine strategy: $75 million over five years to make sure that the wine industry in the very region she’s talking about is able to continue, that that industry which has grown up over the last 30 years is able to thrive. I didn’t hear her endorsement when we made the announcement, but I can tell you that the wine and grape growers were very supportive. They wanted to hear that announcement. They wanted to know that we were going to continue those supports and that investment.
I hope the leader of the third party understands that’s a critical part of that regional economy and deserves the support of all parties in this House.
JOB CREATION
Ms. Andrea Horwath: To the Premier—but I will say I’m glad the Premier had time to read the NDP platform from 2011.
The Premier’s no-strings-attached corporate tax giveaways and loopholes are not creating jobs, and people are falling further and further behind. Families in Niagara not only see that but they also feel it. They see Ontario’s unemployment is above the national average, and Niagara’s unemployment is the highest in the entire province.
Is the Premier ready to admit that the status quo simply isn’t good enough for the families in Niagara or, in fact, anywhere across Ontario?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I’m never satisfied with the status quo.
In fact, we had a wine strategy in place in 2011, so it’s excellent that the leader of the third party put that into her platform.
It would be interesting to know, Mr. Speaker, what the leader of the third party would put into a platform today. We haven’t seen support on minimum wage increases. We haven’t seen support on retirement security. We haven’t seen support for the Fort Erie plan. We haven’t seen support for the wine and grape strategy that we’ve put in place. We haven’t seen support for increased investment in transit.
I am very, very impatient, which is why we have been moving on every one of those fronts, and we will continue. We will not rest on the status quo, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Andrea Horwath: The Premier need not worry, Speaker: The NDP has lots of ideas that the Liberals can mine in the future.
Speaker, for families that are feeling the squeeze, though, it’s not just that Liberal policies aren’t doing the job when it comes to job creation; it’s that the government at Queen’s Park seems to be going out of their way to make things even worse. That’s certainly the story for the residents of Fort Erie, who are fighting to keep jobs alive after the government’s short-sighted attempt to kill the slots at racetracks partnership. Is the government willing to reconsider that short-sighted move?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Mr. Speaker, as the leader of the third party knows, the Slots at Racetracks Program was not a transparent program. It was not accountable. It was not a program that could be supported or should, quite frankly, have been supported by any party in this House.
We have put in place a plan that, over the next five years, will allow the industry to restructure. There are contracts that are being agreed on right now. The leader of the third party knows that we have been working with Fort Erie for months, long before there were any questions in this House about the racetrack industry, about the horse racing industry. There was not a question in this House. We were already working with Fort Erie. We have an arrangement, Mr. Speaker. There will be a 2014 season at Fort Erie. What we’re looking for is a good, solid five-year plan to make sure that that track is sustainable.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Final supplementary.
Ms. Andrea Horwath: Well, Speaker, for Niagara region families worried about jobs, the plan they’ve seen from this government isn’t very impressive at all. Instead of smart tax measures that reward job creators, the Liberals are opening up new tax loopholes and giveaways for companies to ship jobs away. Instead of providing affordable, accountable electricity so businesses can compete, the government blows a billion dollars a year to subsidize cheap electricity exports to the US. Instead of working to protect local jobs, the Liberals went out of their way to kill the slots at racetracks partnership.
Will the Premier agree that the Liberal plan isn’t working for communities like Niagara and admit that it’s time for real change in this province?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Mr. Speaker, I just want to talk about some of the major investments that have been made in the region apart from the $75-million investment in the wine and grape strategy.
Cytec Canada: A grant of $2 million and a loan of $8 million was provided from the Strategic Jobs and Investment Fund. That supports a total investment of $125 million to expand its Niagara Falls facility. That project will create 30 new jobs and retain 105 in Niagara Falls, Mr. Speaker.
Rich Products of Canada, Ltd. in Fort Erie: We announced a $3.9-million Advanced Manufacturing Investment Strategy loan to Rich Products to support a total investment of $13 million. It will create five jobs and retain 43 jobs, Mr. Speaker.
The reality is that as we make these investments, as we develop these partnerships, there are commitments. There are commitments to retention of jobs; there are commitments to the creation of new jobs. That’s the kind of partnership that works for the people of the region and the people of the province.
GOVERNMENT INVESTMENTS
Mrs. Jane McKenna: My question is for the Premier. Premier, in 1998, Honda opened a new plant in Alliston without a government payoff. But in 2014, Ontario can’t compete without massive handouts. Your government spent an estimated $3 billion a year in corporate subsidies, but nine-figure loot bags won’t fix the problems with Ontario’s economy: job-killing red tape, sky-high hydro rates, taxes, taxes and more taxes.
Ontario’s manufacturing sector has lost 300,000 jobs on your Liberal watch. Trying to subsidize those jobs back would cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to get the province’s fundamentals right?
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Be seated, please.
Premier?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Minister of Economic Development, Trade and Employment.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: I’m very proud that Ontario remains the number one destination in all of North America for foreign, direct investment, and 90% of the time when businesses choose to come here to Ontario they do that without any government support whatsoever. We have a great investment climate. We have a tax rate that is lower than most of the US states. We have a quality of workforce which is second to none, quite frankly. We have a great health care system—many reasons why businesses would choose to come here. That’s partly why we’ve added 25,000 manufacturing jobs since the recession. We’ve added 12,500 jobs to the auto sector alone—direct jobs.
I know the member opposite doesn’t support the auto sector and if she had her way she would eliminate the auto sector from Ontario. We’re not prepared to do that. We support it.
These measures are important and we’re actually succeeding. It doesn’t mean that there’s not much more work to do. We’re constantly looking at ways to increase those investments and create jobs.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary.
Mrs. Jane McKenna: Back to the Premier: You can’t spend your way to prosperity. Your government should be creating a level playing field for all businesses. GM and Toyota have both said that it is the most expensive place in the world to build a car. The solution isn’t to pay those companies to be your friend; it is to make our economy competitive. Paying out huge incentives while ignoring fundamental problems is like getting a new paint job to fix a broken transmission.
University of Calgary professor Jack Mintz says that Tim Hudak’s Million Jobs Act is the kick start to Ontario’s economy needs. Will you support him?
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Stop the clock, please. Be seated, please.
Interjection.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Okay. Stop stirring it.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Cambridge, come to order, and the member from Renfrew.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: I know that there are many people in that member’s party who support the right-to-work legislation that will gut labour across this province. We’re not prepared to do that. Frankly, I believe that the Leader of the Opposition still believes in that principle.
I challenge the member opposite to go down to Windsor and tell the 4,600 people who are working at that Chrysler assembly plant that in two years’ time they won’t have their jobs if the Conservatives get to power. I challenge that member opposite as well to go to the Ford plant in Oakville and meet with any of her own constituents from Burlington and tell them she did not support the Ontario government’s investment in Ford last September, when her federal cousins, the federal PC Party, came forward with Ontario in equal measure to support those jobs, retaining those jobs in the future.
I know she didn’t support the Cisco proposal to create 3,700 jobs in this province. I know she doesn’t support Chrysler—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. New question.
JOB CREATION
Mr. Wayne Gates: My question is to the Premier. Niagara has the highest unemployment in Ontario. For some people it’s just a number. I’ve met those people. I’ve met with them in the coffee shop, talked with them on the phone, talked with them in the living room, and now I’m standing up here for them at Queen’s Park. They’re worried about their jobs. They’re worried about jobs for their kids and their grandkids. These are real people facing real challenges.
Does the Premier think that her jobs plan is working for the people across Niagara? There are young people across Niagara Falls riding who are wondering—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Question.
Mr. Wayne Gates: Oh, I’m sorry.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): In fairness to the member and all new members that will be coming, when I say that, you have about 10 seconds to wrap up—just so that you know from here on in.
Premier.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Again, I welcome the member, and I know that he is an advocate for his community. Our job is to advocate for all of the people across the province and to make sure that region by region and community by community, we put the right conditions in place, which is why we’ve made those investments in Niagara Falls and in the Niagara region that I spoke about earlier. Whether it’s the wine and grape strategy, whether it’s manufacturing plants, it needs support in order to be able to compete.
Whether it’s the investment in the hospital or the support for the racetrack, that will allow those people—many of whom I have met, who need those jobs and need to make sure that there is a strategy.
I hope that the member is able to work with his caucus and to understand that support for those businesses is absolutely critical; that’s why we put that in place. And also, Mr. Speaker, support for policies like the minimum wage increase and like retirement security are things that we have to work together on.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Wayne Gates: There are young people across Niagara Falls riding who are wondering if they’ll be able to stay in their hometown, because to stay, they need the kind of good jobs that will let them raise their own families. They want to be able to live, work and raise their families in Niagara. I’m going to stand up for their jobs.
Is the Premier ready to admit the status quo isn’t working and it’s time for a plan that rewards job creators, cuts small business taxes and gets people in Niagara and across Ontario working again?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Minister of Economic Development, Trade and Employment.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: I also want to congratulate the member opposite for his election win and representing that important riding here in the Legislature.
I’m glad that he mentioned youth specifically, because apart from the fact that just last month—or sorry, in January—the province created 7,800 youth jobs alone for youth between the ages of 15 and 25, the youth unemployment rate is gradually coming down. It is unacceptably high, but that’s part of the reason why we’ve created our youth jobs initiative, a $295-million investment over two years, which includes, importantly, our youth jobs fund, administered by my colleague behind me, the Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities.
Just the latest information on that youth employment fund, which are new hires in businesses across the province: As of February 21, 7,934 young people have received placements and jobs because of that program.
HEALTHY LIVING
Mr. Phil McNeely: My question is for the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care. Representatives of the Heart and Stroke Foundation and Canadian Cancer Society are joining us in the House today. I met with four of them this morning.
Every seven minutes in Canada, someone dies from heart disease or stroke. Many of these tests are preventable and the risk factors are well understood. Smoking is one of these risks. Kids are especially vulnerable to its harms. There is a bill before the House now, the Youth Smoking Prevention Act, which would help to protect children from harmful tobacco smoke.
I would like to ask the minister, through you Speaker, how important is it that this proposed legislation be passed swiftly?
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Thank you to the member from Ottawa–Orleans, who is a huge champion of these issues. In fact, it’s the McNeely amendment to the Smoke-Free Ontario Act that banned power walls. I do welcome and thank the representatives from Heart and Stroke and Canadian Cancer for their life-saving work.
The stark reality is that smoking kills 36 people in Ontario each and every day. That’s why it’s so important to quickly pass Bill 131. I believe we have all-party support for that. I was pleased that the Leader of the Opposition has written a letter supporting the Youth Smoking Prevention Act, and last week the member from Nickel Belt indicated she’d like to see this bill move quickly.
Unfortunately though, Speaker, Bill 131 is being stalled in this Legislature. We would like to see it moving more quickly and we’re calling on all parties to quickly move this bill through the Legislature.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Phil McNeely: Thank you, Minister. Speaker, I’m pleased to see our government is placing such a high priority on protecting kids from tobacco smoke. I hope that the opposition will work with us to send the bill to committee very soon.
But smoking isn’t the only risk factor that can lead to heart disease and stroke. Healthy eating is important in maintaining a healthy heart, and good eating habits start young.
Our government has taken steps and is always looking at other initiatives to keep Ontarians, especially children, healthy.
Can the minister tell us what our government is doing to help ensure our children are eating nutritious foods?
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Thanks again to the member from Ottawa–Orléans.
We know that healthy kids grow up to be healthy adults. That’s why we created the Healthy Kids Panel and have taken strong action to implement many of its recommendations. We’ve announced an expansion of the Student Nutrition Program. We’ve enhanced supports for breastfeeding moms. We’ve started the Healthy Kids Community Challenge.
Last October, we committed to introducing legislation that would require the posting of calories in large chain restaurants, after consultation with health leaders, the foodservice industry and, above all, parents. I believe this is something all three parties can support. I certainly know that the member from Nickel Belt has advocated menu labelling herself.
As with Bill 131, I’m reaching across the aisle to ask the third party to stop stalling the important bills moving through the House, and then when this bill is introduced, let’s get it passed.
ENERGY POLICIES
Ms. Lisa MacLeod: My question is to the Premier. The Green Energy Act has cost this province billions of dollars for energy we don’t need at a price we simply can’t afford, Premier. The government promised, at the time, 50,000 new jobs in turn for the massive $4-billion annual subsidies to wind and solar. You stripped away locally based decision-making. The jobs never materialized, but skyrocketing hydro rates have.
The Auditor General went so far as to say that for every job created by the Green Energy Act, four were lost here in Ontario.
Your own Liberal long-term energy plan says that you will subsidize this policy with 42% increases in our hydro rates.
The cause and effect are proven, and it’s time to move on from this policy.
Today, we’ll have people from rural Ontario here, marching to ask you to listen to them and to stop the Green Energy Act. Will you listen? Will you rip up the Green Energy Act?
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Stop the clock, please.
Be seated, please. Be seated, please. Thank you.
Interjection.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Durham will come to order. As I get quiet, I want quiet.
Premier?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: The Minister of Energy.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: I thank the critic for the question.
I know that there were some anti-wind demonstrators outside the Legislature. They were mothers for no wind, I think—or a similar name. I met with them several months ago, and I certainly appreciate their commitment and their concern.
As I indicated earlier, Mr. Speaker, green energy has replaced dirty coal. Dirty coal was causing $4.4 billion in health costs and environmental costs.
On the other hand, their position, on the other side, is very confusing. First of all, the Leader of the Opposition said he will cancel wind contracts. Then he said he would not cancel wind contracts. Now that caucus over there is telling constituents that maybe they will cancel wind contracts.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary.
Ms. Lisa MacLeod: Mr. Speaker, the thing that’s replacing dirty coal is nuclear, gas, hydroelectric; not expensive wind turbines at the expense of freedom in the rural areas of this province.
Your Green Energy Act is bankrupting this province. It is causing us to lose jobs. The World Trade Organization agrees; they say it’s a dud. You are the only jurisdiction in all of Canada, the first province, to break international law in the history of our nation.
We haven’t even gotten to the environmental and health effects of what’s happening to birds, what’s happening to turtles and what’s happening to humans.
There is no due process for municipalities.
Your Environmental Review Tribunal has become a sham and is disgraceful.
Health Canada and the Waterloo Institute for Sustainable Energy are studying the health effects.
I’m asking the Premier: If she won’t scrap the Green Energy Act today, will she at least signal to Ontarians who don’t want these wind turbines that they don’t have to put up with them and she’ll have a moratorium placed across—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Stop the clock.
Be seated, please. Be seated, please. Thank you.
Minister of Energy?
Interjection.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Durham is using this as an opportunity every time, and I’m going to ask him to stop doing that.
Carry on.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: The Green Energy Act has created over 31,000 jobs in Ontario. Several weeks ago, I met with senior officials from Siemens, and we discussed a number of issues, including job creation. They indicated that their Tillsonburg plant for wind turbines is continuing to create more jobs than originally estimated, probably in the order of 200 jobs. I visited Celestica in Don Valley last week, and they’re planning on doing expansion in clean energy.
The jobs are continuing to be created. We haven’t compiled them all because they’re happening across the province. I hear example after example after example of new jobs being created in clean energy, and we have people coming out of our community colleges who are well-versed in clean energy, and they’re going to create cleaner—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. New question.
HOSPITAL FUNDING
Mr. Wayne Gates: Again to the Premier: The construction of the promised new Niagara Falls hospital can be an important source of local jobs, at a time when families in Niagara are facing the highest unemployment rate in the province. What guarantees can this government give to the people and companies in the Niagara region that the construction of the new Niagara Falls hospital will hire local and buy local?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I know the Minister of Health will want to speak to this great project, but I want to just say that we were very pleased to be able to announce $26 million for a planning grant for the new hospital in Niagara Falls, a firm commitment that we are going ahead with that. We’re following through on Dr. Kevin Smith’s expert advice.
It was very clear, actually, during the past few weeks that it was not necessarily the position of the NDP to build that hospital. There was a real lack of commitment, and it wasn’t clear whether the hospital would be built in Welland or somewhere else, or all the other services would be kept in place and the hospital would be built in Niagara Falls, which would be a particularly irresponsible position.
I’m very, very pleased that we are committed to better health care in Niagara Falls. We’re committed to building the hospital, and we’re following through on that commitment.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Wayne Gates: Premier, jobs are the most important issue for families in Niagara. When it comes to building large infrastructure projects, this government should be looking to create as many local jobs and opportunities for workers, engineers, architects and contractors, to shore up the local economy in Niagara.
What is this government doing to make sure that the promised new Niagara Falls hospital construction will provide us much-needed local jobs by hiring locally, stimulating local businesses and purchasing locally made products?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: I am delighted that we finally have some clarity about where the NDP stands when it comes to the construction of a new hospital in Niagara Falls. I congratulate the new member; he’s having an impact already, and I look for further clarity on NDP positions on, say, minimum wage, coming from the newest member of that caucus.
I am delighted that we have moved forward with the planning grant for the new hospital in the south of Niagara. I know that it will benefit the constituents of the member from Niagara Falls, and members of the whole Niagara region. This is an important step forward to improve the quality of care, and I really do urge the member opposite to vote for Bill 141, which will support local employment.
FAMILY CAREGIVER LEAVE
Ms. Soo Wong: My question is to the Minister of Labour. Minister, as a father, you know how tough it’s been balancing work life, looking after your children and working to support your aging parents, or both. That’s why I’m proud to support Bill 21, the Leaves to Help Families Act, which seeks to provide Ontarians with three different leaves they can use at times when they are concerned about just being there to support their families.
Having worked as a nurse, I feel strongly about this bill and its intent to ease the stress on the everyday lives of Ontarians. In my riding of Scarborough–Agincourt, residents thoroughly support this bill, and I brought 12 petitions to the House on this particular bill. However, it is frustrating to see that all three parties have worked together in committee to improve a bill that is now stalled at third reading debate. We could easily have passed this bill by now, and—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Question.
Ms. Soo Wong: Mr. Speaker, through you to the minister: What kind of reaction is the ministry receiving regarding this delay in terms of Bill 21?
Hon. Yasir Naqvi: I want to thank the member from Scarborough–Agincourt for her relentless advocacy with regard to Bill 21 to ensure that we have family caregivers provided for in our province.
Speaker, we have heard from sole caregivers and those in the sandwich generation on the importance of this very important bill. We’ve heard frustration from many stakeholders—they came to watch third reading debate—that this was being bogged down in unnecessary debate in this House. I’m talking about the Canadian Caregiver Coalition, which is composed of the MS Society, the Alzheimer Society, the Parkinson society and the ALS Society.
Representatives from the Heart and Stroke Foundation and the Canadian Cancer Society are in the House urging all members to expedite the debate on this very important bill and to pass this bill into law so that we can give the necessary break that our families deserve for their loving caregivers.
I urge and implore all the members of this House, especially the opposition, to vote in support of that bill.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Soo Wong: I thank the minister for the response. I must admit that there’s frustration in terms of hearing the third reading debate. When we started third reading debate, members of the opposition continued to filibuster and use stalling tactics, veering off on different speaking points and recycling speaking points, rambling on different topics on issues not related to Bill 21.
This bill should have been passed, like many of the legitimate bills that were brought before the House, yet the opposition continues to want to make changes at third reading debate.
Mr. Speaker, through you to the minister: Can he please explain some of the finer points of this bill that we may have missed?
Hon. Yasir Naqvi: Thanks to the member again. Speaker, this bill is first and foremost about compassion—compassion that we owe to our loved ones and, of course, the families, the caregivers who look after them in time of need. Today, I’m asking the opposition to think about the Ontarians who are struggling every day to balance their work and family responsibilities when deciding whether or not to stall this bill any further.
I’m asking the opposition to acknowledge the support of the Heart and Stroke Foundation, the Canadian Cancer Society and the countless others who have put their support behind this bill—the same bill they are keeping from becoming law.
It is absolutely clear this is not a partisan issue. The content of the bill is not controversial at all. It really speaks to the core values of our society, where we look after our families, we look after each other to make sure that caregivers have the necessary job protection that they need to look after their loved ones. Let’s pass this bill into law so that our families have the necessary supports they need at home to look after their loved ones.
WIND TURBINES
Ms. Lisa M. Thompson: My question is for the Premier. Premier, people across Ontario are gathering on the front lawn today to bring yet another message: Your green energy scheme has failed and the rubber is finally hitting the road as electricity bills are skyrocketing for all Ontarians, urban and rural.
No matter which way they spell it, it’s a no-win situation. Your government turns its back on proponents when they break the rules, you take municipalities trying to stand up for their constituents to court, you tell government employees who try to do the right thing to stand down, you ignore the facts determined by your own $1.5-million University of Waterloo health study. And here’s the kicker: Your government actually appealed itself when the ERT did the right thing and said “no” to a proponent.
Premier, will you do the right thing, stand up and have the confidence today to personally go out and address the group that is outside, admit to your corrupt mistakes and call for an immediate moratorium?
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Be seated, please. Thank you.
Premier?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I know that the Minister of Energy will want to comment in the supplementary, but I think the member opposite knows that I have met with folks who have strong opinions about wind energy across this province repeatedly, in community after community.
I know the member opposite doesn’t want to talk about the fact that cleaning up the air is at the root of this. I know the member opposite doesn’t want to talk about the reality of 31,000 jobs that have been created. But I do think the member opposite should acknowledge that when I came into this office, I said we were going to change the rules about siting energy infrastructure. We’ve done that. We’ve done that and we’ve worked with municipalities—
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Order. The member from Renfrew, the member from Prince Edward–Hastings, the member from Northumberland and the member from Huron–Bruce, who asked the question, come to order.
Carry on.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: We have made good on that commitment to change the process whereby these pieces of energy infrastructure are sited, and we will continue to work with municipalities on that front.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary. The member from Haliburton–Kawartha Lakes–Brock.
Ms. Laurie Scott: I would like the Premier to answer my supplementary. My constituents and others are currently appealing over the 50-storey industrial wind turbines planned on the Oak Ridges moraine. The moraine is ecologically important because it provides clean, safe drinking water to over a quarter of a million people. It’s been protected since 2002.
The community has spoken out against these wind turbines; 2,874 people commented on the EBR posting. The Buddhist Association of Canada opposes the project. The Curve Lake First Nation insists that further consultation take place. Many constituents in my riding have travelled to Queen’s Park today, yet again, to protest.
Premier, you’ve turned your back on the protection of the Oak Ridges moraine and your supposed consultation process. Will you immediately call a moratorium on the wind turbines, especially the ones in the Oak Ridges moraine?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Minister of Energy.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: I addressed the issue a little bit earlier. The reality is that the Leader of the Opposition has said he will not cancel existing wind contracts. They’re talking about an existing wind contract. What is your policy? Are you going to cancel it? Are you going to expose the province to more liability?
In the group that is outside this Legislature, there are mothers who are concerned about health. I want to repeat the point: By eliminating dirty coal—the health impacts of getting out of dirty coal—
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Order. The member from Chatham–Kent–Essex, second time, second seat.
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: —$4.4 billion in avoided health care and environmental costs; 668 fewer premature deaths per year; 928 fewer hospital admissions per year; 1,100 fewer emergency room visits per year; and 333,000 minor illnesses, such as headaches, coughing and other respiratory symptoms, avoided. That’s why we’re in renewable energy.
HORSE RACING INDUSTRY
Ms. Cindy Forster: My question is to the Premier. When this government pulled the slot machines from racetracks across Ontario, the hard-working families that depend on the racing industry felt like they had the carpet ripped out from underneath them. Now, the Premier has been doling out short-term funding when the timing suits them, which, in the case of Fort Erie, happened to just come in time, during the by-election. Families in Fort Erie can’t plan a future based on one-year funding. Will the Premier commit today to a long-term partnership with the Fort Erie Race Track that will give families a future that they can look forward to?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I know that the member opposite is fully aware that Elmer Buchanan, John Snobelen and John Wilkinson formed a panel and worked on a five-year plan in which we are investing $400 million. So we are putting in place a long-term plan. We want that kind of sustainability.
The snide remark that the timing of the Fort Erie contract deal coincided with the by-election—again, the member opposite knows full well that we were working for months before there was even a by-election called to make sure that every racetrack in this province had the opportunity for a sustainable future. That’s the work that we’ve been doing. We will continue to do that. I made a commitment to put the horse racing industry back on track. We’ve been doing that.
Ms. Cindy Forster: It’s interesting that the announcement actually came when the Liberals were trailing in the polls.
Any business would tell you that long-term planning is crucial, and since the slots were pulled from the Fort Erie Race Track, families who depend on the track had no way to plan for the future—short-term funding and vague promises of a five-year plan that may one day be released. They had to march in the streets. They had to march here at Queen’s Park for months before the Premier would listen.
One-time funding and vague promises are not a plan for the families who live in Fort Erie. Will the Premier reinstate the slots at racetracks partnerships so that horse racing can continue in Fort Erie and sustain over 1,000 jobs locally?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: We’re not going to reinstate a plan that was unaccountable, that was not transparent and that was not in the best interest of the long-term industry. We’re not going to do that. We’ve been working on putting a better plan in place, and that is what we have done: $400 million over the next five year years.
The NDP was crying for a season for Fort Erie in 2014. They were screaming from the rooftops that that’s what they wanted, when they finally got to the issue, which was long after we had already started working on it. The plan is in place. We are going to continue to work with Fort Erie. The people of Fort Erie who work at the racetrack—I have met with many of them—know that I am committed to making sure we do everything possible. But there will be a business plan, there will be a transparent exchange of dollars as part of that plan, and that is why we are going to continue to work with them.
ENERGY CONSERVATION
Ms. Mitzie Hunter: My question is for the Minister of Energy. Minister, in days past, the electricity system in Ontario could be described as a bunch of wires attached to wooden poles, powered by a generator and turned on by the flick of a switch. While I know the electricity system has been modernized with the advent of smart meters and smart grids, to some today, the system appears the same. Mr. Speaker, could the minister tell us how these new technologies are changing how we interact and use our electricity system?
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: I thank the member for the question. Several weeks ago, I had the opportunity to visit Barrie and the new IBM state-of-the-art world data centre in Barrie. They are analyzing information from smart meters and other information in order to create a more efficient energy sector. Not only that, this is another example of clean energy creating jobs in Ontario.
In fact, smart meters are modernizing our outdated, inefficient energy system. They help Ontarians conserve energy and save money. Since 2006, conservation and our smart grid have saved our energy system over $4 billion in avoided costs. Smart meters help us conserve and allow local distribution companies to quickly determine when system issues arise and avoid them as quickly as possible. The home of the smart grid in North America is Ontario.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Mitzie Hunter: I want to thank the minister for his response.
I believe my colleagues will agree with me that we need to continue to do more to promote conservation in Ontario. I know this is important to the people in my riding of Scarborough–Guildwood. I understand that smart meters allow us to control our energy usage during peak times, to help save money and conserve power. I’ve also heard that, during the recent ice storm, local distribution companies like Toronto Hydro used the smart meter data to assist with restoration efforts.
Mr. Speaker, can the minister please tell us if the ministry has any programs to leverage this new smart grid technology or if there is any way that I can access this information?
Hon. Bob Chiarelli: There’s a lot of excitement in Ontario over smart grid and new technology in the energy sector. A few months ago, in partnership with the MaRS Discovery District, we launched the Energy Apps for Ontario Challenge. This is a challenge for people using their ingenuity and creativity to create new tools that can inform the public. These apps will help Ontario households and businesses manage and better understand their electricity use, so they can make informed decisions and save money.
Using the smart grid data, energy apps for Ontario will empower consumers by providing easier access to their own electricity data and allowing them to securely share their data with mobile and Web-based apps. They can get all of the data from their meter and use that to help create apps for themselves—new tools to conserve energy.
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TRADES
Mr. Garfield Dunlop: My question today is for the Minister of Training, College and Universities. Minister, a critically important part of your mandate is to uphold and enhance the skilled trades in this province. Your exercise of this responsibility is vitally important to all the fine hard-working men and women in the trades today, whether they are compulsory or mandatory trades.
While we practise politics in this place, I know that you would not want the practice of politics to taint the work being done by the Ontario College of Trades. As such, will you commit today to halt any compulsory certification review before the Ontario College of Trades until after the next election?
Hon. Brad Duguid: What a political question for somebody who just said we shouldn’t be playing politics with the College of Trades.
What I will say is this: We’re very proud of the work that we’re doing as a government and that the College of Trades is doing to promote the skilled trades across this province.
We have our youth apprenticeship fund, which is doing some great work in our high schools to encourage young people to get into the skilled trades, which is so important. As we work with the federal government, we’re working at ways to do even more to encourage young people to take on apprenticeships. We’ve doubled the number of apprenticeships in this province in the last 10 years. We’re proud of that, but there’s more work that we have to do.
Building a stable environment for the skilled trades across this province, building an environment where those skilled trade workers themselves have a say in those future decisions, is the direction we’re going, as opposed to making those decisions in smoky Albany Club backrooms.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Garfield Dunlop: You didn’t answer the question, to begin with. One of the greatest powers the Ontario College of Trades has is to change a trade from a voluntary one to a compulsory one. Minister, the ramifications of such a change cannot be exaggerated. Should any trade be changed into a compulsory one, the process needs to be perfect.
I trust the minister can appreciate the politics of a provincial election campaign—no question about it—and I trust the minister can also recognize that, given your party is likely to be supported with hard dollars from the very organizations seeking compulsory certification, the election is no time to do that. I can tell you, Minister, if you compulsory-certify a trade like carpentry and let these guys do it down there right now, you can cripple the construction industry in the province of Ontario.
So I’ll ask you again: Will the minister stand in his place today and commit to—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Question.
Mr. Garfield Dunlop: —any compulsory certification review, should we go into an election? It’s very important, Minister; this is an important question. I don’t want you to dance around this. A yes or no would be fine.
Hon. Brad Duguid: Okay. No. Mr. Speaker, the fact is—and the member asked the exact same questions when we were going through the ratio reviews, concerned about process ahead of time, concerned they were going to get it right. They did get it right, because they reduced ratios 20 times more than any other party did over the course of the time that they were in office, including our own. That’s a pretty good accomplishment. The process went very well.
Now when they undertake the process for compulsory reviews, they’ll do that. But the difference between us and them is that it will not be a political decision. It will not be a political decision made in the backrooms of the Albany Club. It will be a decision made transparently by the College of Trades, by tradespeople themselves, so politicians like yourself, who want to get involved in these decisions, will not have a role to play in those decisions, because they’ll get it a lot better than politicians from any parties have got it—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. New question.
GO TRANSIT
Ms. Cindy Forster: The Liberals have told Ontarians over and over that they’re going to deliver full-day, two-way GO service on all corridors, but they’re nowhere near delivering on that commitment.
Families and businesses in the Niagara region have been clear: They need the service. They don’t need higher taxes and fees. The people of Niagara Falls riding could see that the Liberals haven’t delivered on their promise, and so they chose to elect a strong New Democrat, who will get results for families and small businesses in our area.
The 12 mayors and the regional chair have also issued a joint statement to the province to tell them to get moving by 2015 on all-day GO service to the Niagara area.
My question to the Premier: When will you listen to the people of Niagara, Welland and St. Catharines and commit to a date for delivering GO service in the Niagara region?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure.
Hon. Glen R. Murray: Clearly, the member from Welland has a sense of humour, which is good to know. Half-hour, all-day GO service runs on the Lakeshore line.
We are taking over from the parties opposite, that made no investment in GO, froze the funding, didn’t acquire tracks and let the system fall apart and rot. We have made up $20 billion in transit infrastructure—$10 billion. The reason we cannot move faster is because when you were over here, you didn’t buy any tracks from CN and CP and you didn’t invest in anything. So we’re making up for 30 years of neglect, Mr. Speaker.
I would invite the member to come down to Hamilton with me in the near future to see a few announcements about the results of those billions of dollars of expenditure. I’ll just let you anticipate what that might be, because it wouldn’t be happening if you were sitting over here.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Cambridge on a point of order.
Mr. Rob Leone: Mr. Speaker, I was listening intently to question period, and I hope I didn’t misunderstand what the government was saying. I’m going to reference standing order 23, because they were talking about family caregiver leave that has not been debated at third reading. I remember, very vividly, speaking positively of the bill, family caregiver leave, at third reading. I wonder what’s going on in terms of trying to perhaps mislead, but certainly of naming—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): First of all, you will withdraw, because you can’t say that. So withdraw.
Mr. Rob Leone: I withdraw.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): That’s not a point of order for the purposes of question period.
There are no further debates. This House stands recessed until 1 p.m. this afternoon.
The House recessed from 1150 to 1300.
ESTIMATES
Hon. John Milloy: Mr. Speaker, I have a message from the Honourable David C. Onley, the Lieutenant Governor, signed by his own hand.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): All rise, please.
The Lieutenant Governor transmits estimates of certain sums required for the service of the province for the year ending March 31, 2014, and recommends them to the Legislative Assembly. Dated Toronto, February 21, 2014.
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
Mrs. Christine Elliott: I’m very pleased to welcome and introduce four guests who are seated in our gallery today and are either patients with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis or their caregivers: Michael Jarvis, Larkell Bradley, Laura Lillie and Barbara Barr. Welcome to Queen’s Park.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Welcome.
MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS
LONG-TERM CARE
Ms. Lisa M. Thompson: I’m pleased to rise in the House today to join PLTC Homes to recognize the extraordinary efforts of the employees of two long-term-care homes in my riding of Huron–Bruce.
This winter has been a tough one across the province but has been especially tough in my riding of Huron–Bruce. The people of the riding suffered through record-setting snowfalls, record low temperatures, power outages, and ferocious winter storms. In these trying circumstances, many businesses closed and roads were understandably closed, causing people to stay home and wait for the storms to pass.
The employees of the Seaforth Manor retirement living and long-term-care centre in Seaforth and the Queensway Retirement Living and Long Term Care centre in Hensall did not stay home. They went to work when others didn’t. They stayed for extra shifts when needed, and they went above and beyond to serve the residents of their homes during this tough time.
I had the privilege to meet with the managers of both these homes last week here at Queen’s Park. They shared their many stories of the extraordinary efforts of their employees. Employees at both homes truly showed their commitment to their residents, their families and the community as a whole. They worked double or even triple shifts. They did other people’s jobs and they reached out to families directly.
I am pleased to be able to rise in the House today to congratulate and thank the employees of both homes for their dedication and hard work. I know that the residents are grateful, their families are grateful and I very much appreciate their selfless, hard-working commitment. On behalf of the people of Huron–Bruce, thank you for all you do.
EMPTY BOWLS CAMPAIGN
Ms. Teresa J. Armstrong: Today I would like to take the opportunity to speak to the House about London’s participation in the international Empty Bowls campaign. The campaign has existed in North America for over 20 years and has since spread to over a dozen countries.
Every year, millions of dollars are raised to help end hunger in countries around the world. Guests of these events enjoy a simple meal of a chef-made soup and bread donated by local restaurants and get to keep their handcrafted bowl, which is made by local potters and volunteers as a poignant reminder of the international hunger crisis and as a reminder of all the empty bowls in the world. It is a collective hands-on project that serves to raise awareness and unites communities and neighbours in a goal to end hunger.
The London Potters Guild held what they call a bowl-a-thon over the past few weeks, encouraging community members to help make scores of these wonderful hand-made bowls. Last Sunday my colleague MPP Sattler and I spent a very enjoyable morning at the Potters Guild headquarters in London in the historic Old East Village, rolling up our sleeves to create clay bowls to contribute to the Empty Bowls fundraiser in March.
The event takes place on Friday, March 7 at the Goodwill centre in London. This year all proceeds will be donated to the Regional HIV/AIDS Connection, which provides a wide variety of services to the London community for individuals living with HIV and AIDS.
I would like to acknowledge the London Potters Guild and the Regional HIV/AIDS Connection for their hard work and commitment to helping alleviate hunger in London.
HEART MONTH
Ms. Mitzie Hunter: February is Heart Month in Canada. Today, more than 90% of Canadians who have a heart attack and more than 80% who have a stroke and make it to a hospital will survive, resulting in 165,000 survivors last year.
The cardiac care program in my riding of Scarborough–Guildwood by the Rouge Valley Health System is providing excellent care. However, no one is safe from heart disease or stroke conditions that can be devastating not only to individuals but to entire families. There is so much we can do to protect ourselves and our loved ones. There are currently 1.6 million Canadians living with the effects of heart disease and stroke.
By addressing the key control factors—physical inactivity, poor diet and tobacco use—Ontarians have the power to make health last. Thanks to the generosity of Ontarians and the compassion of volunteers, the Heart and Stroke Foundation is able to continue making a real difference in reducing death and disability from heart disease and stroke. Over 43,000 Heart and Stroke Foundation volunteers are knocking on doors across Ontario raising awareness about life-saving research, patient support and initiatives that continue to reduce the number of Ontarians afflicted with heart disease and stroke every year.
Speaker, we also need to do our
part in our ridings by informing our constituents about the importance of healthy living all year round. This is our opportunity to create environments and communities that make healthy choices for all.
CANADIAN INTERNATIONAL AUTOSHOW
Mr. Michael Harris: Speaker, I hope you had the opportunity to attend this year’s Canadian International AutoShow at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre at some point during these past two weeks. For 41 years, auto dealers like those who belong to the Trillium Automobile Dealers Association have organized this event, bringing people from all over the world to Toronto to showcase some of our province’s finest vehicles manufactured right here in Ontario and sold worldwide. The newest attraction this year was the AutoConnect technology, which gave visitors a glimpse into the future of the autonomous vehicle.
With well over 300,000 attendees this year, I would like to congratulate AutoShow president Frank Romeo and the AutoShow staff for hosting another successful event. This event is a time to celebrate Ontario auto industry’s great history and promote its success into the future.
I would like to take this time to thank our auto manufacturers and dealers for their great investment in communities across this province, creating well-paying jobs for all types of skill sets. This year’s AutoShow reminds us of the necessary changes that must happen in Ontario to support these businesses—by making our energy rates more affordable, reforming our tax rules on major capital investments, ending the red tape runaround, changing our apprenticeship-to-journeyman ratio and, of course, getting rid of the Drive Clean program, as well as reducing our debt and eliminating the deficit so these key job creators can successfully do business within our borders for years to come.
GASOLINE PRICES
M me France Gélinas: I rise today to talk about something that every second resident of Nickel Belt wants to complain about. Everywhere I go in Nickel Belt, I hear people talking about it, and, yes, Speaker, you guessed it, it is the price of gasoline.
Living in the north, we expect to pay a little bit more than southern Ontario, but the reality is that there are huge price differences, and to add insult to injury, there is fluctuation that borders on opportunistic price gouging.
This morning in Sudbury, the price of gas is $1.32 a litre. You can drive 60 kilometres east to Sturgeon Falls or 40 kilometres west to Nairn Centre and there can be as much as 11 cents or 12 cents’ difference per litre.
Gasoline is a necessity of life in northern Ontario. The majority of my riding does not have public transit and they feel that their government should be working to deliver fair, stable and predictable fuel prices.
There are currently five provinces in Canada that have some type of gas regulation and the sky has not fallen. In fact, the jurisdictions with gas price regulation have seen an end to the wild price fluctuation, a shrinking of price discrepancy between urban and rural, and overall annualized lower gas prices. This is what Ontarians want. They want their government to listen to the good people of this province and act. A good start would be to mandate the Ontario Energy Board to monitor the price of gasoline.
SILVERHEARTS ASSOCIATION
Mr. Kevin Daniel Flynn: I rise in the House today to recognize the Silverhearts Association. Let me tell you a little bit about them. The Silverhearts Association of Oakville is a not-for-profit organization that seeks to raise awareness about specific cancers that take the form of sarcoma.
Saddened by the loss of his mother, Janice Silver, Alexander Silver, together with his good friend Jacqueline Di Filippo, created Silverhearts Association. The intent was to raise awareness of cancer-specific sarcoma and to advance research.
Silverhearts is now comprised of young professionals with a goal to reach out to the leaders of tomorrow to educate, involve and inspire them to make a difference in the future of our health care system in Ontario.
Alexander Silver and Jacqueline Di Filippo hosted the annual gala for 350 young professionals and partnered sponsors. The event raised over $13,000 that evening for sarcoma research, facilitated through McMaster University health services. An event such as this proves that the Oakville community is as strong as it has ever been.
I want to congratulate Silverhearts, ask them to keep up the good work, and congratulate the Silver family for pulling together at a time of great sadness to try to get some good out of our community for what was obviously a family tragedy for them and to help advance the cause of cancer research in this province.
IDIOPATHIC PULMONARY FIBROSIS
Mrs. Christine Elliott: I stand today in honour of Rare Disease Day, which is Friday, February 28. I’d like to take this day as an opportunity to speak about a specific rare disease: idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, or IPF. IPF is a rare lung disease that causes a rapid decline in lung function. Tragically, and like many rare diseases, IPF has a very high mortality rate. Most patients die within two to five years of diagnosis.
But there is hope for patients with IPF. Esbriet has been proven to slow the progression of IPF, and it is the only treatment option available to patients with IPF.
Despite the severity of this disease, the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care has denied funding of Esbriet. When you have a disease with a life expectancy of only a few years, the reality is that you cannot afford to wait for treatment. It’s a tragedy that the government is keeping Esbriet out of reach for many in urgent need of help.
The Canadian Pulmonary Fibrosis Foundation has launched the Ontario IPF patient watch list to help us MPPs keep track of people in our ridings who are waiting for treatment, and I encourage all members to visit this website.
I am saddened that despite the severity of this rare disease and the strong evidence of the safety and effectiveness of Esbriet to treat IPF, the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care is denying funding for this drug. In honour of Rare Disease Day, I call upon the Minister of Health to take this opportunity to provide affordable access to care for IPF patients in Ontario.
STUART HARTNELL
Mrs. Laura Albanese: I am honoured to rise in the House today to recognize Chief Warrant Officer Stuart Gordon Hartnell, a resident of York South–Weston who received the Meritorious Service Medal on February 18, 2014, from Governor General David Johnston. The medal goes to people whose specific achievements have brought honour to the Canadian Armed Forces and to Canada.
Chief Warrant Officer Hartnell has served for 28 years in the military, including in the Airborne and special operations. As battle group sergeant-major in Afghanistan from April to November 2010, he was a key player in high-intensity counter-insurgency operations. He was respected throughout the unit as a model for others to emulate. Whether providing advice to the commander or leading soldiers in combat, Chief Warrant Officer Hartnell demonstrated impressive leadership which proved to be critical to the battle group’s operational success.
The Meritorious Service Medal (Military Division) recognizes a military deed or activity performed in a highly professional manner according to a very high standard that brings benefit or honour to the Canadian Armed Forces.
These decorations are an important part of the Canadian Honours System, which recognizes excellence and makes me proud to have him as part of our community in York South–Weston. He is a great example of what it means to serve our country, and I would like to thank him for his service and dedication.
LARISA YURKIW
Mr. Bill Walker: Certainly following up on our great achievement at the Olympics, it’s my pleasure today to rise in the House to recognize one of the world’s fastest skiers and a resident of the great riding of Bruce–Grey–Owen Sound. Larisa Yurkiw made us proud when she represented Canada in downhill and super-G in the recent 2014 Olympics. She truly is a champion and a role model in every way.
High off the 2008 FIS Junior World Ski Championships, where she won silver, Larisa faced a horrifying setback after tearing up every piece of connective tissue in her left knee. The injury kept her off the slopes for two years and out of the Vancouver games—what a disappointment. The devastating injury had some thinking she might never ski again, and also left her off the national team.
But the gutsy 25-year-old Owen Sound native wasn’t ready to be counted out. Within a short time, she persevered, and with great personal determination and will, she hit the slopes again winning the qualifiers for the winter games. She also set up Team Larisa and, on her own, recruited sponsors and supporters in her effort to raise $150,000 that she needed to hire a coach and get herself to Sochi, Russia.
With her steely nerves and go-getter attitude, the young Larisa quickly became a media sensation, inspiring an online campaign with several hundred supporters—I being one of them—who wanted her to be Canada’s flag-bearer for the opening ceremonies.
One of the local donors to Team Larisa, Terry Graham of TG Group of Owen Sound, said it best: “In my own life, there was somebody that stood up,” he told CTV News. “And when we saw Larisa going through those gauntlet of challenges, it was our opportunity to stand up.”
On February 7, Larisa marched with Team Canada.
On Wednesday, she completed a 2.7-kilometre alpine skiing ladies’ downhill in one minute and 43 seconds, just two seconds separating her from the gold medal winner. Larisa suggested she was disappointed; however, she is happy celebrating an incredible season and living a dream. It’s a dream the world’s best and most committed get to enjoy.
Congratulations, Larisa. You are the epitome of someone who pursued their dream against considerable challenges, and inspired a wide spectrum of people along the way. You made us proud, and you are and always will be a champion in my eyes. Thank you, Larisa.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I thank all members for their statements.
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
MAKING HEALTHIER CHOICES ACT, 2014 /
LOI DE 2014 POUR DES CHOIX
PLUS SAINS
Ms. Matthews moved first reading of the following bill:
Bill 162,
An Act to require certain food service premises to display nutritional information / Projet de loi 162, Loi assujettissant certains lieux de restauration à l’obligation d’afficher des renseignements nutritionnels.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? I heard a no.
All those in favour, say “aye.”
All those opposed, say “nay.”
In my opinion, the ayes have it.
First reading agreed to.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member for a short statement?
Hon. Deborah Matthews: I will make my statement during ministerial statements.
STATEMENTS BY THE MINISTRY
AND RESPONSES
HEALTHY EATING
Hon. Deborah Matthews: I’m very pleased to introduce our government’s Making Healthier Choices Act, and I am delighted that people from the Heart and Stroke Foundation, the Canadian Cancer Society and the Diabetes Association are joining us in the visitors’ gallery.
Families want the information they need to make healthier choices when they buy ready-to-eat food and beverages. That’s why we’re introducing legislation, which will, if passed, require restaurant chains, convenience stores, grocery stores and other food service establishments with 20 or more locations to post calories for food and beverage items, including alcohol, on their menus.
This proposed legislation fulfills a commitment I made last October, and it takes further action on the commitment our government made to keep Ontarians healthy—the first pillar of our government’s action plan for health care.
Improving our children’s health is a key part of this commitment. That’s why we’re stepping up the fight against tobacco use among youth with proposed legislation, the Youth Smoking Prevention Act, that I was pleased to bring forward for second reading last week.
Now we’re taking another step to improve children’s health by tackling the growing problem of childhood obesity. Obesity costs Ontario $1.6 billion in direct health care costs alone every year, and the costs of not acting will only grow. Indeed, if we don’t act, studies tell us that over the next 25 years, up to 70% of today’s children will be overweight or obese adults.
To get the best possible advice on how to achieve better health for our children, we have appointed the Healthy Kids Panel. This expert panel heard from many parents who said their lives are busier than ever, they’re eating out more often, and they need more help to make the healthy choice for their kids the easy choice every time.
In fact, a recent Ipsos Reid survey found that 95% of Ontarians support requiring fast-food restaurants to list nutritional information on their menus. This is broad support; this is very strong support. But I know that government cannot do it alone. That’s why I committed in October to consult with the food industry, the health sector and, above all, parents on how to best move forward. I want to thank them for the thoughtful advice they provided, and I’m pleased to say we’re now moving forward with the proposed legislation that I’ve introduced today.
It would require the posting of calorie information for standard food and beverage items, as defined in the regulations, including alcohol. It would require food service premises to post a contextual statement that would help educate patrons about their daily caloric requirements. The proposed legislation would also authorize public health inspectors to enforce these requirements.
If this legislation passes—and I sure do hope that it does—Ontario will be the first province in Canada to legislate the posting of calories on menus, which will help people make informed choices when eating out or purchasing take-away meals. I want to ensure that families have easily accessible and transparent nutrition information when they buy prepared food, because I know that when they have this information, they are more likely to make the wiser, healthier choice, and companies that sell food may rethink their menus and recipes in response to the consumer preferences.
Knowledge, as they say, is power. Having nutritional knowledge readily at hand will empower people to take better control of their own health, and I think that’s something all members of the House can get behind. Each of us wants to help our kids and grandkids have a healthy start to life. That’s why I’m confident that, with this legislation, we can reach across the aisle and find support from members in all three parties.
This legislation is the latest in a series of steps we’ve already taken to implement recommendations from the Healthy Kids Panel report. Last month, the Premier and I announced the Healthy Kids Community Challenge, in which communities across Ontario are working together to make the children in their communities the healthiest they can be.
We’re expanding supports for new moms so that every woman who wants breastfeeding support can get it. The Ministry of Children and Youth Services is expanding Ontario’s Student Nutrition Program, creating more than 200 new breakfast and morning meal programs for about 33,000 more kids in higher-needs communities. This adds to the almost 700,000 students who benefited from those programs in the past year. And as I mentioned, we recently began second reading debate on the Youth Smoking Prevention Act.
Today, we have the opportunity to take the next step. Working together, we can help parents across the province make the right choices to keep their kids healthy. I urge all members to support this proposed legislation.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): It is now time for responses.
Mrs. Christine Elliott: I am pleased to rise, as the Ontario PC caucus’s health critic, to address the Making Healthier Choices Act, tabled by the minister just a few moments ago.
I’ve not yet seen the full bill and have not had the opportunity to review it in detail, so I can’t speak to the specifics of the bill. I can only speak in general terms of what has already been reported in the media.
This past October, as the minister has indicated, at a press conference at a McDonald’s restaurant, the minister announced that her government would be bringing forward legislation to require restaurants to list calories on their menus and reduce advertising to children. What we’ve seen coming forward today is the response and the follow-through by the minister on that.
I would say that there’s no question that we need to deal with the issue of obesity in Ontario. It is becoming a serious problem, particularly for children, and this does have long-term implications for children in the longer term. They can grow up to develop serious health complications, from diabetes to hypertension to stroke and many other medical complications, and of course it is putting an increasing strain on our health care system as well in financial terms. We do need to take urgent action. It has been said that obesity is the new tobacco in the implications on our health care system and the additional costs related to it, but the question is, what do we do?
We have groups visiting us today, the Heart and Stroke Foundation and the Canadian Cancer Society, who visited many of us as MPPs. They’ve been talking about making Ontario the healthiest province. Though they were specifically speaking about tobacco control and caregiver assistance, I think it could be equally applicable to dealing with the effects of obesity.
If you were to have a campaign in schools, for example, and teach children about nutrition and healthy eating habits, what we would end up doing is educating young people to have a lifetime of good healthy eating habits in the long term and to learn how to make good choices. I think in the short term also you would influence parental choices, because if children aren’t clamouring to go to fast-food restaurants, I think most parents wouldn’t be going there as frequently either. I think that could be something that could be really very effective immediately in dealing with the effects of childhood obesity.
What do we end up with? Well, we’ve got the menu-labelling legislation that’s in front of us right now. While I don’t want to dismiss it, I know that it is important that we have nutritional information available. The fact of the matter is, we already have a lot of this information available, and ORHMA, the Ontario Restaurant Hotel and Motel Association, has indicated that the restaurant industry has already shown leadership. Many already have nutritional information available at their restaurants on tray liners, posters, pamphlets, QR codes and/or nutritional information apps.
Many also have nutritional information available on their websites so that their guests can plan ahead before dining out or ordering.
The fact is that most of this information is already out there, Mr. Speaker. Some people have said that this is really a solution in search of a problem, that we’re dealing with a situation that’s already been dealt with. However, I would say that I look forward to reading the legislation, understanding the pros and cons and understanding what a huge difference this is supposed to make in the lives of Ontarians, particularly children.
There is one other comment, though. There is an indication that the caloric content of alcoholic drinks is also included in this legislation. Many have indicated that this should not be included. If this is a bill that’s aimed at childhood obesity, then presumably alcoholic content isn’t necessary to be listed.
I leave it at that. I look forward to reviewing the legislation in detail and will have further comments when this bill comes before us in a formal manner.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Further responses?
M me France Gélinas: Well, I was rather excited to hear what the government was going to introduce. I feel a little bit deflated when I read in—I haven’t seen the bill either, but what I’ve seen of the bill is that it will only apply to restaurants and chains that have 20 premises in Ontario. I don’t understand this. My bill talks about five locations in Ontario because it would cover all of the restaurants that, as my colleague says, already have this information and just make it available on the menu or the menu board.
You see, Mr. Speaker, I’ve been working at this issue since 2009. In 2009, I introduced the Healthy Decisions for Healthy Eating Act. It was Bill 156 at the time, and on April 9, 2009, it passed second reading. We had a debate in this House. The House voted in favour at second reading that the bill go through. At the time, it asked for restaurants with five premises and $5 million. Unfortunately, the House prorogued.
So on June 2, 2010, I reintroduced Healthy Decisions for Healthy Eating, now called Bill 90. Bill 90 required the disclosure of calories on menus and stayed the same: five premises making gross sales of $5 million. The Legislature again prorogued.
I reintroduced it on May 8, 2012 with the same title, Healthy Decisions for Healthy Eating, now called Bill 86. By that time, during all those years, I worked the file, Mr. Speaker. I talked to the convenience stores, to the grocery stores, to food establishments, to a lot of health care providers and to a lot of families. It had moved from putting the calorie amounts on the menu to putting the calorie amounts and a flag for sodium, because so many Ontarians have high blood pressure that can be directly linked to eating too much sodium—too much salt in their diets, directly linked to restaurant food.
Yet again, the Legislature prorogued. Not to be outdone, in October 2012, I reintroduced it, and we all know what happened. Mr. McGuinty decided to prorogue two days before I was going to go for second reading—I took that personally, Mr. Speaker, but it probably wasn’t—and I couldn’t bring it for second reading.
Then, on Thursday of last week, Bill 149, Healthy Decisions Made Easy, passed second reading. Healthy Decisions Made Easy talks about menu labelling so that you would see the number of calories next to the price on menu items, whether it be food or drinks, including alcohol drinks. You’d be surprised at how many calories there are in alcohol, until you start to look at those things. If you have four beers, you can’t eat for the day. Your caloric intake is through the roof.
But anyway, back to last Thursday and Healthy Decisions Made Easy: We had a debate in the House. It passed second reading, with five locations and $5 million. That is because everybody who already has standard portions in recipes—so that you know exactly how many calories there are—already has that information and would be willing to go ahead.
I hope that the government takes this into account. There have been six years of work on the ground to move this idea forward. I must be honest: The first time the bill passed, it only passed by three votes. That was kind of a thin margin. It did pass, but I could see that there was quite a bit of a pushback. Now if you go and ask any group of Ontario citizens, you would come back with 90% support for that idea. In my world, 90% support is very, very hard to achieve. There will always be some naysayers; there will always be some pushback. No matter if you offer paradise, there will be some people who don’t want it.
At 90%, we know that we have a really strong base of support. We know that the restaurant industry, the bar industry, the convenience store industry and the grocery store industry are ready.
We have been talking—I have been talking, and the NDP has been talking—about this for six long years. Do I look forward to the day when I will go into a fast food outlet and there will be the calories? Yes. The sooner the better. I can’t wait.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I thank all members for their comments.
PETITIONS
LYME DISEASE
Mr. Steve Clark: I want to thank Karen and Paul Brown of Mallorytown for their advocacy on Lyme disease in my riding.
I have a petition to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas the tick-borne illness known as chronic Lyme disease, which mimics many catastrophic illnesses such as multiple sclerosis, Crohn’s, Alzheimer’s, arthritic diabetes, depression, chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, is increasingly endemic in Canada, but scientifically validated diagnostic tests and treatment choices are currently not available in Ontario, forcing patients to seek these in the USA and Europe;
“Whereas the Canadian Medical Association informed the public, governments and the medical profession in the May 30, 2000, edition of their professional journal that Lyme disease is endemic throughout Canada, particularly in southern Ontario;
“Whereas the Ontario public health system and the Ontario health insurance plan currently do not fund those specific tests that accurately serve the process of establishing a clinical diagnosis, but only recognize testing procedures known in the medical literature to provide false negatives 45% to 95% of the time;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to request the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care”—who is here today—“to direct the Ontario public health system and OHIP to include all currently available and scientifically verified tests for acute and chronic Lyme disease in Ontario and to have everything necessary to create public awareness of Lyme disease in Ontario, and to have internationally developed diagnostic and successful treatment protocols available to patients and physicians.”
I’m very pleased to sign this in support. I affix my signature. I’ll send it to the table with page Jaclyn. Again, I’m glad the minister is here to listen.
OFF-ROAD VEHICLES
Mr. John Vanthof: I continue to get signatures from all across the province on this one.
“To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas a motion was introduced at the Legislative Assembly of Ontario which reads ‘that in the opinion of the House, the operation of off-road vehicles on highways under regulation 316/03 be changed to include side-by-side off-road vehicles, four-seat side-by-side vehicles, and two-up vehicles in order for them to be driven on highways under the same conditions as other off-road/all-terrain vehicles’;
“Whereas this motion was passed on November 7, 2013, to amend the Highway Traffic Act 316/03;
“Whereas the economic benefits will have positive impacts on ATV clubs, ATV manufacturers, dealers and rental shops, and will boost revenues to communities promoting this outdoor activity;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“We call on the Ministry of Transportation to implement this regulation immediately.”
I fully agree, add my signature and give it to page Owen.
CHILDREN’S AID SOCIETIES
Ms. Mitzie Hunter: A petition to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas there are over 8,000 children and youth living under the care of the crown and of children’s aid societies in Ontario; and
“Whereas the Ontario Legislature hosted the ‘Our Voice, Our Turn: Youth Leaving Care Hearings’ in the fall of 2011; and
“Whereas these hearings made it clear that more must be done to support these young people and to raise awareness; and
“Whereas by proclaiming May 14 of each year as ‘Children and Youth in Care Day,’ the province would raise awareness and recognize the unique challenges faced by children and youth living in care; and
“Whereas Ontario’s children’s aid societies, the Provincial Advocate for Children and Youth, and members of the community, including children and youth living in care, want to officially celebrate ‘Children and Youth in Care Day’ on May 14, 2014; and
“Whereas Bill 53, known as the ‘Children and Youth in Care Day Act,’ proposed by MPP Soo Wong, passed with unanimous support on May 9, 2013, but has since been delayed from being called for third reading;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“That the Legislative Assembly of Ontario call Bill 53 for third reading immediately; and
“That the Legislative Assembly of Ontario pass and enact Bill 53, the Children and Youth in Care Day Act, before May 2014.”
I will sign it.
ONTARIO DRUG BENEFIT PROGRAM
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Simcoe—York–Simcoe. I was spreading the love.
Mrs. Julia Munro: York–Simcoe. That’s right. Thank you very much.
This petition is to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.
“Whereas Health Canada has approved the use of Esbriet for patients with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis (IPF), a rare, progressive and fatal disease characterized by scarring of the lungs; and
“Whereas Esbriet, the first and only approved medication in Canada for the treatment of IPF, has been shown to slow disease progression and to decrease the decline in lung function; and
“Whereas the lack of public funding for Esbriet is especially devastating for seniors with IPF who rely exclusively on the provincial drug program for access to medications;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“Immediately provide Esbriet as a choice to patients with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis and their health care providers in Ontario through public funding.”
As I am in agreement, I have affixed my signature to give it to page Anne.
GASOLINE PRICES
M me France Gélinas: I have this petition that comes from B. Thomas Bulldozing. He’s on Highway 64 in Alban, in the French River region of my riding. It reads as follows:
“Whereas northern Ontario motorists continue to be subject to wild fluctuations in the price of gasoline; and
“Whereas the province could eliminate opportunistic price gouging and deliver fair, stable and predictable fuel prices; and
“Whereas five provinces and many US states already have some sort of gas-price regulation; and
“Whereas jurisdictions with gas-price regulation have seen an end to wild price fluctuations, a shrinking of price discrepancies between urban and rural communities and lower annualized gas prices;”
They petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to “mandate the Ontario Energy Board to monitor the price of gasoline across Ontario in order to reduce price volatility and unfair regional price differences while encouraging competition.”
I fully support this petition, will affix my name to it and ask Kiranpreet to bring it to the Clerk.
FAMILY SAFETY
Mr. Bob Delaney: Speaker, I have an important petition that’s signed by a great many people from Brampton, Oakville and eastern Mississauga. It’s addressed to the Ontario Legislative Assembly and it’s entitled “Safer Families Program in Peel Region.” It reads as follows:
“Whereas the Safer Families Program is a successful partnership of Catholic Family Services Peel-Dufferin, Family Services of Peel and the Peel Children’s Aid Society ... receives year-to-year funding from the Ontario Ministry of Children and Youth Services, and is a critical component of social services to families within the Peel community; and
“Whereas the intervention model for Safer Families currently operates with no waiting lists, an important consideration for families experiencing domestic violence and child protection concerns, as they require immediate access to service; and
“Whereas the Safer Families Program is aligned with Ontario’s child poverty agenda, is committed to preventing violence against women, and contributes to community capacity building to support child welfare delivery; and
“Whereas currently, Safer Families serves 14% of all domestic violence cases referred to Peel Children’s Aid Society and has the ability to double the number of cases it handles;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“That the government of Ontario adjust its funding to supply ongoing core funding rather than year-to-year funding, and realign funding to double the percentage of cases referred by the Peel Children’s Aid Society and served by the Safer Families Program.”
I completely agree with this petition. I’m pleased to sign and support it, and to send it down with page Samer.
HIGHWAY IMPROVEMENT
Mr. Norm Miller: I have a petition in support of Bill 137, paved shoulders on provincial highways. It reads:
“To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas pedestrians and cyclists are increasingly using secondary provincial highways to support healthy lifestyles and expand active transportation; and
“Whereas paved shoulders on highways enhance public safety for all highway users, expand tourism opportunities and support good health; and
“Whereas paved shoulders help to reduce the maintenance cost of repairs to highway surfaces; and
“Whereas the member from Parry Sound–Muskoka’s private member’s bill provides for a minimum one-metre paved shoulder for the benefit of pedestrians, cyclists and motorists;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“That private member’s Bill 137, which requires a minimum one-metre paved shoulder on designated provincially owned highways, receive swift passage through the legislative process.”
I support this petition.
DOG OWNERSHIP
Ms. Cheri DiNovo: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas aggressive dogs are found among all breeds and mixed breeds; and
“Whereas breed-specific legislation has been shown to be an expensive and ineffective approach to dog bite prevention; and
“Whereas problem dog owners are best dealt with through education, training and legislation encouraging responsible behaviour;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“To repeal the breed-specific sections of the Dog Owners’ Liability Act (2005) and any related acts, and to instead implement legislation that encourages responsible ownership of all dog breeds and types.”
I’m going to add my signature to the thousands and thousands of people who are still collecting these and give it to page Anne to be delivered to the table.
DISTRACTED DRIVING
Ms. Mitzie Hunter: I have a petition to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario.
“Whereas ‘texting while driving’ is one of the single biggest traffic safety concerns of Ontarians;
“Whereas text messaging is the cause for drivers to be 23 times more likely to be in a motor vehicle accident;
“Whereas talking on a cellphone is found to be four to five times more likely for a driver to be involved in an accident;
“Whereas Ontario is only one of few provinces in Canada where there are no demerit points assessed under the current cellphone/distracted driving legislation currently in place;
“Therefore we, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“To adopt Bill 116 by MPP Balkissoon into law, which calls for each individual guilty of an offence and on conviction to be ‘liable to a fine of not less than $300 and not more than $700,’ in addition to a record of three demerit points for each offence.”
I will give this to page Alessia.
PHYSIOTHERAPY SERVICES
Mr. John O’Toole: I want to thank the member from Leeds–Grenville for giving me this opportunity to put on the record this important petition, which reads as follows:
“Whereas current OHIP legislation and policies prevent”—the minister is here, so I’m saying this—“Ontario post-stroke patients between the ages of 20 and 64 from receiving” publicly funded “additional … physiotherapy; and
“Whereas these post-stroke patients deserve to be rehabilitated to their greatest ability possible to maybe return to work and become provincial income taxpayers again and productive citizens” with pride;
“Whereas current OHIP policies prevent Ontarians under age 65 and over the age of 20 from receiving additional” publicly funded “physiotherapy and rehabilitation after their initial stroke treatment; and
“Whereas these OHIP policies are discriminatory in nature, forcing university/college students” and people in the middle of their careers, “and other Ontarians to wait until age 65 to receive” publicly funded physiotherapy;
“Whereas the lack of post-stroke physiotherapy offered to Ontarians between the ages of 20 and 64 is forcing these people to prematurely cash in their RRSPs and/or sell their houses,” leave their wife and family, “to raise funds;
“Now therefore we, the undersigned, hereby respectfully petition the Ontario Legislature to introduce and pass amending legislation and new regulations to provide” publicly funded “post-stroke physiotherapy and treatment for all qualified post-stroke patients, thereby eliminating the discriminatory nature of current treatment practices,” which are a shame in the province of Ontario, and the Minister of Health should listen.
PROPERTY TAXATION
Mr. John Vanthof: I have a petition here signed by almost everyone in this municipality.
“To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas the MPAC (Municipal Property Assessment Corp.) has failed to provide the appropriate rationale for the significant changes (mostly increases) in the assessed values of residential properties in the township of James; and
“Whereas neither physical improvements nor the general condition of the local real estate market warrant these drastic changes;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Ministry of Finance to engage an independent third party organization to conduct a fair and equitable reassessment of all property values within the township of James immediately.”
I fully agree, affix my signature and give it to page Michael.
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TRADES
Mr. Bill Walker: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas Ontario’s tradespeople are subject to stifling regulation and are compelled to pay membership fees to the unaccountable College of Trades; and
“Whereas these fees are a tax grab that drives down the wages of skilled tradespeople; and
“Whereas Ontario desperately needs a plan to solve our critical shortage of skilled tradespeople by encouraging our youth to enter the trades and attracting new tradespeople; and
“Whereas the current policies of the McGuinty/Wynne Liberal government only aggravate the looming skilled trades shortage in Ontario;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“To immediately disband the College of Trades, cease imposing needless membership fees and enact policies to attract young Ontarians into skilled trade careers.”
I support this, will sign my name and send it with page Jaclyn.
ASTHMA
Mr. Jeff Yurek: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas on October 9, 2012, 12-year-old Ryan Gibbons unnecessarily died of an asthma attack at school;
“Whereas one in five students in Ontario schools has asthma; and
“Whereas asthma is a disease that can be controlled; and
“Whereas it is the responsibility of Ontario schools to ensure asthma-safe environments;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to request the Minister of Education to take measures to protect pupils with asthma by ensuring all school boards put in place asthma-management plans based on province-wide standards.”
I support this bill, and I support Bill 135. I’m sure the Liberal government will work hard to get this passed before the next election.
CHARITABLE GAMING
Mr. John O’Toole: “Whereas the government of Ontario, through the Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario, levies the Ontario provincial fee on the sale of break-open tickets by charitable and non-profit organizations in” our communities in Ontario; and
“Whereas local hospital auxiliaries/associations across the province, who are members of the Hospital Auxiliaries Association of Ontario, use break-open tickets to raise” badly needed “funds to support local health care equipment needs in more than 100 communities across” the province of Ontario; and
“Whereas in September 2010, the Alcohol and Gaming Commission of Ontario,” under Dalton McGuinty, “announced a series of changes to the Ontario provincial fee which included a reduction of the fee for certain organizations and the complete elimination of the fee for other organizations, depending on where the break-open tickets are sold; and
“Whereas the September 2010 changes to the Ontario provincial fee unfairly treat certain charitable and non-profit organizations (local hospital auxiliaries) by not providing for the complete elimination of the fee which would otherwise be used by these” volunteer “organizations to increase their support for local health care equipment needs” in their community,
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to eliminate the Ontario provincial fee on break-open tickets for all charitable and non-profit organizations in Ontario and allow all organizations using this fundraising tool to invest more funds in local community projects, including local health care equipment needs, for the benefit of Ontarians.”
The Acting Speaker (Mr. Ted Arnott): Thank you. That concludes the time that we have available today for petitions. Orders of the day?
Hon. John Milloy: I’d like to seek the agreement of the House to revert to motions, please.
The Acting Speaker (Mr. Ted Arnott): The government House leader is seeking the unanimous consent of the House to revert to motions. Agreed? Agreed.
MOTIONS
ORDER OF BUSINESS
Hon. John Milloy: Mr. Speaker, I move that, notwithstanding any standing order, the order for concurrence in supply for the various ministries and offices, as represented by government orders 11 through 21 inclusive, shall be called concurrently; and that when such orders are called they shall be considered concurrently in a single debate; and two hours shall be allotted to the debate, divided equally among the recognized parties, at the end of which time the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of the order for concurrence in supply for each of the ministries and offices referred to above; and th