Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 1 May 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 13)

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Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 1 May 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 13)

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Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

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May 1,

2013 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS Vol.

XLVII No. 13

The House met at 2:00 p.m.

MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman): Order, please!

Admit strangers.

Before we start proceedings today, I want to welcome to our galleries the

Jewish Community Havura of Newfoundland along with their President, Mr. Jonathon

Richler.

Welcome to our Assembly.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

Statements by Members

MR. SPEAKER: Today we have members' statements from the District of St.

John's North; the Member for the District of Bonavista South; the Member for the

District of Port de Grave; the Member for the District of The Straits White

Bay North; and the Member for the District of St. John's East.

The hon. the Member for the District of St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Mr. Speaker, I rise in this House today to thank the Larkhall

Academy community for inviting me to come to the school last week to attend the

third annual parent breakfast.

Staff at Larkhall originally started the event to provide parents with an

opportunity to engage with teachers, staff, and the school community in the

learning environment of their children. It provides a positive, casual, no

pressure way for parents and staff to interact in a relaxed atmosphere.

In addition to parents, Larkhall extends invitations to other community

members, including artists, community leaders, and individuals who volunteer at

the school. I, like many others, have been very happy to help out by joining the

serving line.

A small organizing committee of staff members does the initial planning for

the annual parent breakfast. All present, and some past, staff members of

Larkhall work together during the pre-day set up and at the breakfast itself to

make the event successful. Attendance numbers are up each year. This year we

served about 440 parents, children, and guests.

I ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating the staff of Larkhall

Academy for the continuing success of their annual parent breakfast.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Bonavista South.

MR. LITTLE: Mr. Speaker, hon. colleagues, I rise today to recognize

Bonavista native, and NHL player, Michael Ryder, who scored his 200 career goal

on January 26 of this year. Michael is the first and only resident of our

Province to reach this goal.

Son of Wayne and Debbie Ryder, Michael was the first drafted by the Montreal

Canadiens in 1998.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: He began his career playing for the Hull Olympiques of the

Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. During his three seasons in Hull, Michael

captured All-Rookies Honour, Top Scorer Honours, and was bronze medalist with

Canada's World Junior Team in 2000.

In 2003-2004, Ryder made his NHL debut with Montreal, finishing the season

leading all rookies in points, power play points, shots and goals.

In July 2008, Ryder signed a three-year contract with Boston Bruins, and in

2011, helped the team win the Stanley Cup. This was only the second time ever

that the cup was brought back to Newfoundland and Labrador.

In July 2011, he signed a two-year contract with the Dallas Stars and was

then traded back to the Montreal Canadiens during the 2012-2013 season.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: Next to me is the hon. Member for Bonavista North who is a

Toronto Maple Leaf fan and the hon. Member for Cape St. Francis who is a Boston

fan. We can all agree, when one of our own excels as a true Newfoundlander on

the national, international, and the world scene we are all proud and definitely

commend one of our own.

Mr. Speaker, hon. colleagues, please join me in congratulating Michael Ryder

on such a successful career.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Speaker, I stand today in this House to congratulate

Amalgamated Academy on their production of Beauty and the Beast.

At the Western Region Drama Festival of the Eastern School District the

performers and production received numerous awards. Leading the way were three

young performers. Erin Mackey of North River won Best Junior Actress, Liam

Dawson of Bay Roberts won Best Supporting Actor, and the Adjudicator Award went

to Brady Snow-Bollard of North River for performing with a walking brace.

Certificates of Excellence were awarded to John Efford Jr. and Liam Healey, and

Phoebe Wilkins was also nominated for Best Supporting Actress.

The production itself won awards for the best musical, best use of light,

best set design, best backstage crew, and drew sellout crowds for its

performances prior to the festival.

We give accolades to those teachers and volunteers who worked so hard to make

this show such a success. Mr. Marc Warren was recognized with the Senior

Adjudicator Award for his continued support and involvement in both the

Amalgamated Academy and Ascension Collegiate productions.

I ask all members to join with me in congratulating Amalgamated Academy on

such an outstanding production.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to congratulate some really golden girls the Canon Richards

Wildcats.

The Canon Richards Wildcats earned gold at home in Flower's Cove in the

provincial Girls 2A high school ball hockey tournament this past weekend. Ten

teams from across Newfoundland and Labrador competed for the title.

The weekend event saw many hockey fans come out and show their support as

girls from across the Province displayed their dedication, skill, and talent. I

hope everyone was able to bring back memories of their experience in The Straits

White Bay North. Winning is terrific, but we must remember it is the

excitement of the game that keep the fans coming back.

The Wildcats advanced to the finals and defeated the King's Point Vikings 7-0

to win the provincial championship. Team members are: Allie Coles, Tana Genge,

Yvonne Genge, Jessica Gould, Alyx Lawless, Trisha Lawless, Morgan McLean, Alyson

Moores, Sandi Noseworthy, Jillian White, Megan White. Assistant coaches were

Tony Lavallee and Mark Whalen, and Emma Coles was the coach and teacher sponsor.

I ask that all hon. members join me in congratulating the Canon Richards

Wildcats, girls' 2A ball hockey champions.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On April 7, the Jewish Community Havura of Newfoundland and Labrador, with

the co-operation of the Atlantic Jewish Council and the Beth-El Synagogue held

their annual Holocaust Memorial Service.

The service is always moving, but this one was special. Not only was this the

seventieth anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, the community hosted two

Holocaust survivors who had made their home in this Province, Dr. Phillip

Riteman and Mr. Ernie Mauskopf. In the audience were two grandchildren of

Newfoundland soldiers who had helped liberate the European camps.

Almost 1,500 people came to the Sheraton Hotel this year to commemorate the

people lost in the Holocaust. Together all those people, and many who were

unable to attend, shared the grief, the hope, and all the emotions of this

year's Holocaust Memorial Service.

Today, I ask all House members to join with me and recall the 6 million

Jewish victims of the European Holocaust. We then also remember the millions of

other victims of Nazism: the Romani, the Sinti, also known as the gypsies, the

Catholics, homosexuals, mentally and physically disabled, the Social Democrats

and Communists, partisans, political opponents of the Nazi regime and others

slaughtered by the Nazis in those particular years.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Statements by Ministers.

Statements by Ministers

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Tourism, Culture and Recreation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. FRENCH: I rise in this hon. House to recognize athletes honoured at

Sport Newfoundland and Labrador's recent Stars and Legends Awards Gala. This

annual event involves the induction of new members into the Newfoundland and

Labrador Sports Hall of Fame and the presentation of sports awards that

recognize the athletic achievements in the Province.

Mr. Speaker, Raeleen Baggs, Linda Barrett, Alan Ross, Wayne Russell, and

Nicola Will are the newest members of the Newfoundland and Labrador Sports Hall

of Fame. These women and men have achieved much throughout their sporting

careers and have set a wonderful example of our Province's up-and-coming young

athletes and our sports community.

In addition to the induction ceremony, Sport Newfoundland and Labrador

honoured the Province's top athletes. Basketball player Hannah Jardin, baseball

player Myles Vincent, swimmer Katarina Roxon, rugby player Ciaran Hearn,

baseball executive Robert Morgan, softball coach Jeff Kirk, gymnastics volunteer

Lindsay Rayner, and the 3Cheers Pub softball team are all to be congratulated.

All of these recipients are truly deserving of such an honour as they have put

forth tremendous effort and commitment to their chosen sport.

Mr. Speaker, the provincial government is committed to providing provincial

athletes with every opportunity explore their potential in sport performance.

This is done through the Premier's Athletic Awards Program, the Elite Athlete

Assistance Program, the National Travel Subsidy Initiative, and funding to

provincial sports organizations.

I am pleased to report, Mr. Speaker, that since the launch of Active Healthy

Newfoundland and Labrador, a recreation and sport strategy in 2007,

approximately $172 million has been committed to recreational and sport

infrastructure, programming, and athlete development throughout our Province.

Just this morning, Mr. Speaker, the Premier turned the sod on a brand-new $22

million facility in the Town of Paradise.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. FRENCH: That kind of investment helps our athletes compete at the

highest level, and we will support the members of Team Newfoundland and Labrador

at the Canada Games in Sherbrooke, Quebec, this August.

I invite all members of this hon. House to join with me in congratulating

these women and men for their hard work, dedication, and the significant role

they play in the advancement of sport throughout the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for an advance copy. I noticed the Premier turning the

sod on the new facility. She also turned the key to close the West Coast

Training Centre out in Stephenville. So, we might add that.

To all these athletes and coaches and volunteers, Mr. Speaker, I offer my

congratulations. I know a lot of the ones who were inducted into the Sports Hall

of Fame. Back when I was a real young fellow, I knew a lot of those people

playing in their sports. I remember Alan Ross. If anybody ever knew Alan Ross,

you were whipped in shape pretty quick with Alan Ross.

I look back at Hannah Jardine and I tell her dad Mike, the only way she got

to be such a good basketball player is because she started her roots at J.J.

Curling when she lived in Corner Brook. Myles Vincent and we are all so proud of

Katarina in her endeavours also out on the West Coast. So you can see this is

all across the Province. I congratulate all the athletes. I congratulate all the

people who inducted in their sports and the executive.

I see the government is taking a lot of credit, which they should because

there has been a lot of money invested in sports in Newfoundland and Labrador,

but we cannot forget the volunteers and the parents who make this a driving

force. We have the facilities, we have the funding, and we also need the

volunteers and the parents. I would be remiss if I did not recognize the

volunteers and the coaches who spend endless hours and endless time with these

athletes to ensure they can do the best they can when they can.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I, too, thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement. These awards

and recognitions acknowledging the contributions of our provincial athletes and

coaches are so important, as they do incredible work and work so very hard and

inspire others. Our elite athletes need continued support from government to

travel outside the Province to compete on a higher lever, despite our own

infrastructure investments.

It is important to have a regional balance, as well, of high-calibre sports

training centres across the Province. This comes at a time when government is

pulling back in this year's Budget on the West Coast Training Centre and making

cuts at the community level, downloading more responsibilities to financially

strapped municipalities.

Congratulations, certainly, to these athletes and coaches.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Oral Questions.

Oral Questions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Over the last decade, this Province has lost its marine rescue sub-centre, we

have seen the downgrading of services in our Coast Guard services, and of course

we have seen significant tragedies, those being the loss of Burton Winters, the

Ryan's Commander , the Melina and Keith II , Cougar Flight 491, and

the Check-Mate III . The recent federal AG is recommending that search and

rescue services need to be improved across this country.

I ask the Premier: With all of this information, what more do you need to

convince yourself that we need an inquiry?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I stated in this House yesterday, we are extremely concerned

by the matters raised in the AG's report on search and rescue. Everyone in this

Province is seriously concerned because all of us, to this day, are still

connected in some way or other to the sea, and the health and safety of the

people who earn their livings on the sea or who play on the sea are extremely

important to us.

Today, as a result of this independent, objective, and systematic review of

air search and rescue by the Auditor General, we are asking the federal

government to immediately begin implementation of all of his recommendations.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Mr. Speaker, these departments have already agreed with the

recommendations; that is clearly outlined in the AG's report. Concern is not

enough. What we need, Mr. Speaker, is courage from this government. We need will

from this government. We need a public inquiry.

We did that with the Wells Inquiry. We have seen that in our history. Our

history has shown that we get positive results from inquiries. We remember the

Cameron inquiry and we remember the Wells inquiry. It is obvious now, with all

of this information, that we need an inquiry into search and rescue services in

our Province.

I ask the Premier again: Will you call for an inquiry, a full inquiry, into

search and rescue services in our Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Auditor General of Canada has done an independent, objective, and

systematic review of our search and rescue services in this country, Mr.

Speaker. The matter has been well studied and well reported on, too, I might

say, and recommendations have come about as a result of it.

The time for study is done, Mr. Speaker. What we need now is action. The

people of our Province, the people of our country, who earn their living on the

sea, could be at risk because of the lack of capacity that has been clearly

identified in search and rescue, Mr. Speaker. That is why we are calling on the

federal government not to study more, but to act.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We have seen enough tragedies in our own Province for our own government to

call for action. We need to see action from this government, not more study, not

calling on the federal government to implement and just call for action. We need

to see more action from our own government.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. BALL: As an example, the minimum standard response time for the

Canadian Forces is, what, 8:00 to 4:00 o'clock, Monday to Friday it is thirty

minutes. On the weekends, it is two hours. I say, Mr. Speaker, globally the

response time is fifteen to thirty minutes, twenty-four hours a day.

I ask the Premier: Your lobbying

efforts with this federal government have failed; will you now commit to

making improvements to response time a priority for your government?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition has just pointed out inadequacies

in search and rescue, inadequacies that are clearly identified in the Auditor

General's report. I expect that is where he lifted that passage from.

Mr. Speaker, the review has been done. It has been independent, it has been

systematic, and it has been extremely thorough. It certainly does identify

issues around scheduling, Mr. Speaker, because the services are not focused

around the busiest times commercially or recreationally. There are issues with

task time; there is issue with aging infrastructure, aircraft and vessels. There

are problems with communications technology. What we need now we know what the

issues are, we need action.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

What the federal Auditor General's report did not do is study the provincial

responsibilities. It did not study the impact of, for instance, the closure of

our Coast Guard offices. One of the most glaring deficiencies identified by the

Auditor General is with the search and rescue information systems. It is near

the breaking point he called it, and we cannot even effectively track search and

rescue operations.

In your full court press, Premier, that was mentioned yesterday: What steps

have you taken to address this vital service to ensure the safety of

Newfoundlanders and Labradorians?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Auditor General does address communications and aging

communications technology within search and rescue, and recommends that it be

replaced. He talks about task time, Mr. Speaker, and recommends that be totally

reviewed. He talks about any number of systemic issues that run throughout

search and rescue.

He has done an independent, objective, systematic review outlining under

capacity, the need for more training, more technology, and more infrastructure

in search and rescue, Mr. Speaker. He does talk about the Marine Sub-Centre and

those communications. You should read the whole report, I say to the Leader of

the Opposition.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Premier has made comments about lobbying and communications with the

federal government. As a matter of fact, last year I believe it was on April 3,

there was mention of a call going to the federal minister.

I would ask the Premier: Will you please table in this House of Assembly the

communications that you have had with the federal government?

We know that it has not worked. We need to see the information, the people of

this Province need to see the information. Will you please table that

information, I ask the Premier?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, this is a very serious issue for the people of this Province. I

do not know of any issue that is more important to the men and women of

Newfoundland and Labrador and to the children of Labrador who have their parents

earning their living on the water.

Mr. Speaker, every opportunity that we have to talk about search and rescue,

which is every meeting with the Prime Minister, every meeting with the minister,

we raise this important issue.

AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible).

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, we talk in meetings. We do not write

notes back and forth to one another, I say to the Leader of the Opposition.

Mr. Speaker, we raised this issue because it is important to us, it is

important to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. We have a solid report

here, Mr. Speaker. We are saying to the federal government, act on it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains .

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, the federal Auditor General's report is very

alarming. The reports on search and rescue finds that while minimal standards of

readiness have been met there are still two factors which present significant

risk, the availability of trained search and rescue personnel and aging

equipment, including aircraft.

I ask the Premier: Are you asking the people of Newfoundland and Labrador to

be satisfied with minimum standards, or will you push for the best search and

rescue standards in the world for this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, search and rescue is a clear responsibility of the federal

government. We are not responsible for air search and rescue.

Mr. Speaker, like all other services that the federal government are

responsible for, we demand the same quality and the same excellence of services

here in this Province as anywhere else in the country, anywhere else in the

world. We want the gold standard. The people of Newfoundland and Labrador

deserve the gold standard, Mr. Speaker. That is our position with the federal

government. It is a position we are going to continue to press and there should

not be any division between both sides of the House on this matter.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, minimum standards for search and rescue should

never be acceptable when it comes to saving lives. The Auditor General clearly

states that national standards need to be improved upon, especially when it

comes to availability of resources and equipment. Since the audit, Mr. Speaker,

this Province has a downgrading of service, potentially putting us below minimum

standards.

I ask the Premier: Will you lobby Ottawa to reinstate the Maritime Rescue

Sub-Centre in St. John's and prevent other Coast Guard stations from closing?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, our position on the Marine Sub-Centre has not changed. We

believe that service should not have been moved out of Newfoundland and

Labrador. Mr. Speaker, the Auditor General in his report does speak about the

Marine Sub-Centre, how it happened to be put here in the first place and why it

has been drawn back to JRCC, and why Quebec's Marine Sub-Centre to date has not

been called back to JRCC. The Auditor General speaks at length about it.

Mr. Speaker, we expect a gold standard. It is important to the people of

Newfoundland and Labrador. We have had a report that is very objective, that is

very comprehensive, and makes recommendations. We are not calling for more

study, we are calling for action.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, the time for rhetoric and spin is long overdue.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, the Premier cannot push responsibility back on

the federal government alone. Newfoundlanders and Labradorians deserve and need

concrete action on search and rescue now. Mr. Speaker, the federal government

has opened the door, now it is up to the Premier.

I ask the Premier: Will you call this inquiry to ensure the protection and

safety of the people of this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador takes its

responsibilities very, very seriously. This is a very serious issue for the

people of Newfoundland and Labrador and there will be no rhetoric and spin on

this side of the House and if there is none to be on the other side of the

House, I recommend that the member stay in his seat.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Mr. Speaker, I can assure you that this is not about rhetoric

and spin on this side of the House. This is indeed a very serious issue. I asked

a question about tabling documents and letters from the federal government, in

this particular case Minister MacKay.

Last year on April 3 we asked a question in this House, and this was the

response from the Premier. "I have immediately put in a call to Minister MacKay

to have him confirm that the federal government is prepared to engage in a joint

inquiry because that is what we would need, Mr. Speaker"

It goes on to say, "Mr. Speaker, I am looking forward to hearing back from

him, as well as hearing back from him on the questions we posed to him in our

letter. Once that is received, Mr. Speaker, I will have more to say on the

matter."

I ask the Premier: Will you please table this letter.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we did ask the federal government to participate. I had a number

of conversations with Minister MacKay. I had conversations with the Prime

Minister. I asked them to participate in a joint inquiry and they refused to do

so, Mr. Speaker.

Now, Mr. Speaker, it was a very important issue to us. It was not quite so

important to the Leader of the Opposition. When he had the opportunity to meet

with Minister MacKay himself, he did not go. He sat outside the door while his

House Leader went inside and met with Minister MacKay, and even then she did not

ask for an inquiry. Now, that is the action that speaks for itself and the

motivation from that side of the House.

The people of Newfoundland and Labrador know this is an important issue. We

call on the federal government to act.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Mr. Speaker, you talk about rhetoric and spin. The Premier

knows that is not what happened with Minister MacKay last year in April. She

knows the difference. I did speak with the minister, this was brought up, and it

was addressed there in Hansard on the same day.

I ask the Premier, she should apologize for that statement. That is not the

case. For her to suggest that this is not important to me, she should be ashamed

of herself she should be ashamed. We represent the people of this Province and

she does not take ownership of this. That is a shameful statement to make, I

say, and she should retract that statement, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I am not going to dwell a great deal on this part, but I had a

conversation with Minister MacKay and I asked him yes, you met him in the

corridor and you had a chat with him. I understand that.

I asked Minister MacKay: What was the representation from the Leader of the

Opposition when he met with him in Ottawa? He said: I did not meet with the

Leader of the Opposition; he was outside my office while I met with the Member

for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair. I said: Did the Member for Cartwright L'Anse

au Clair, on behalf of her Liberal Party here in Newfoundland and Labrador, ask

for a joint inquiry? No, Premier, he said, they did not.

Now, if you have an issue with that, you take it up with Minister MacKay. We

talked about it here in the House at that time, Mr. Speaker. It is in the

record.

This issue is bigger than this. This is important to the people of

Newfoundland and Labrador. We call on the federal government to act as the

Attorney General has recommended.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, Monday night in Budget Estimates it was

revealed that government will save $600 by cutting the circuit court in

Bonavista and just $1,000 by cutting the court in Burgeo. These miniscule

savings cannot compare to the hundreds of dollars in costs incurred by people

who will travel hours to attend circuit courts at tremendous cost.

So I ask the minister: Are these so-called efficiencies in cuts to our

justice system what was intended or is government really just trying to download

the costs onto the residents of this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, as people would recall here, this issue was raised

in this House actually pre-Budget. It was not connected to the Budget. It was

raised before Christmas.

The Provincial Court the chief judge did a thorough review of the circuit

courts and court delivery in the Province, looking at best practices, looking at

ways to find efficiencies. Last year, I am advised by the judge that there was

more than $200,000 spent on the circuit courts, and that is for travel costs and

rental of locations only. It does not factor in the salaries of judges, the

salaries of lawyers, and security and other personnel who may have to travel

from time to time

This decision, Mr. Speaker, was not taken lightly, I am told, by the judge,

but the chief judge is the one who made this decision on behalf of the courts,

independent of government.

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Minister, you will recall Monday night you saved $50,000,

and the figures do not lie here $600 you save by cutting it in Bonavista;

$1,000 by cutting it in Burgeo; and maybe $4,000 if we cut it all in Labrador.

The previous Minister of Justice for this government said that access delayed

is access denied. The elimination of these courts in many areas of the Province

will delay justice for hundreds who have to travel long distances for their day

in court. Travel expenses, child care, loss of work, and other costs come out of

the pockets of residents of this Province.

I ask the Minister: Why are you denying timely access to justice so you can

save a few hundred dollars?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, as I said a few moments ago, first of all, that is

not my decision to make. It was a decision that is made by the judiciary on

behalf of the Provincial Court.

I would also remind the member that as I outlined any number of factors that

would have been considered as part of the decision to realign the circuit court

process, equally as important was maximizing the use of resources. So, the chief

judge advises me that he would have certainly considered the amount of downtime

that would have occurred in Stephenville the busiest court, I am told, in the

Province of Newfoundland and Labrador and the justice that may have been

denied and delayed for the people there, who would have had to wait while the

judge was away tending to other business.

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Third Party.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

There is immediacy to search and rescue. When people are in peril, they are

in urgent need of help right away. The Premier here in the House today is saying

that she is calling upon the federal government to put in place all the

recommendations of the Auditor General. What I want to say to the Premier, Mr.

Speaker, is calling on the government is one thing, what the people from this

Province are going to be looking for is actions.

What is he going to do to impress upon Stephen Harper the urgency of

immediate improvement to search and rescue capabilities? Actions, not words, Mr.

Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I have said yesterday and again today in this House, this is

a very important issue to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. There is not

a family in Newfoundland and Labrador who is not somehow connected to somebody

earning their living on the water.

This is a serious issue when we understand that the capacity that should

exist to help people if they are in trouble is not there. Thus, we have the

recommendations coming from the Auditor General which we absolutely accept.

Mr. Speaker, we are calling on the federal government to implement all the

recommendations. I have tasked my minister to write immediately to the minister

responsible to reiterate our position, and to ask for a meeting as soon as

possible to discuss these important issues with him.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I hear what the Premier is saying and now my question for the Premier, Mr.

Speaker is: Doesn't she as the Premier of this Province, as the leader of the

people of Newfoundland and Labrador, have the power to get the Prime Minister on

the phone and meet with him herself?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I said, I am not about to play political football with an

issue that is this important to the people of the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, the minister has primary responsibility

for this portfolio. This is the appropriate place for us to start. We are moving

immediately; we expect a response from the minister in short order. If we do not

receive the meeting in a timely manner, then we will take other steps.

Mr. Speaker, all sides of the House ought to be united in our voice, calling

as one voice to the federal government on an issue that is extremely important,

calling not for study, but for action for the people of Newfoundland and

Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

That is what I am calling for. I want us to have one voice around these

recommendations, but the Premier is the leader of the government here and has a

leadership role to play.

Mr. Speaker, the men and women who work at sea do not keep banker's hours.

The current federal air force search and rescue response time standard is to

dispatch a search plane within thirty minutes of receiving a distress call, but

only during business hours. After 4:00 p.m. or on weekends they require two

hours to respond, which everyone in this Province knows is absolutely

ridiculous.

I ask the Premier, Mr. Speaker: What immediate actions is she planning to

impress upon her federal counterparts that people working on the water, as she

knows, need best safety and rescue practices of thirty minutes wheels up,

twenty-four seven?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, absolutely, we absolutely endorse all of the recommendations of

the Auditor General. He talks about these things. He talks about aging vessels

and aging aircraft. He speaks of a lack of capacity in human resources so that

people are not able to have the state-of-the-art training that they need. He

talks about lapses in scheduling, Mr. Speaker, so that when the oceans are most

busy with commercial activity and recreation the search and rescue have not the

capacity to respond. They have not scheduled properly.

He talks about communications, Mr. Speaker. He talks about our former Marine

Sub-Centre. He talks about Quebec's Marine Sub-Centre, the JRCC, and he talks

about communications technology. We agree with all of it, and we call on the

federal government to act on his recommendations.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The thirty minute standby for eight hours a day, Monday to Friday, 8:00 a.m.

to 4:00 p.m. means that only 17 per cent of the incidents requiring search and

rescue services occur during that period. Over 80 per cent of the tasking for

search and rescue aircraft happened during the so-called quiet hours after 4:00

p.m. before 8:00 a.m. and on weekends.

Mr. Speaker, I am asking the Premier to tell us: What is she going to do to

make sure that people in Newfoundland and Labrador are not going to have to wait

months and months and maybe years before these recommendations of the Auditor

General are put in place?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, not only are we calling on the federal government to implement

these recommendations immediately, we are asking the federal government for a

timeline so they can tell very clearly the people of Newfoundland and Labrador

when they can expect these recommendations to be fully implemented.

Mr. Speaker, we are always engaged with the federal government. Whether they

listen to us or not is not something we always have a great deal of control

over, but that does not stop us from being engaged. We do not do social visits

once a year or once every couple of years like the crowd opposite, Mr. Speaker.

We engage on a daily basis and we push these issues that are important to the

people of Newfoundland and Labrador, as we are doing now, Mr. Speaker. With one

voice I hope Newfoundlanders and Labradorians are saying to the federal

government act now.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Town of Torbay is looking for an alternate water supply. Its first choice

was South Pond only to have the town discover that the water supply is tainted

with hydrocarbons.

As the damage caused falls under federal jurisdiction, what measures is the

department taking to remediate the damage in the area, and will the government

be asking the federal government to clean up its own mess?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Municipal Affairs.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: The hon. member should know, Mr. Speaker, that we support

municipalities in Newfoundland and Labrador to the tune of $650 million since

2008. Certainly, I will be assisting the Town of Torbay in regard to the federal

responsibility in regard to the issue that he has just outlined, as well as

anything that we can do to support the community, as well to offset any issue in

any community in Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Mr. Speaker, I am glad to hear that. He may have a bigger

mess on his hands. There are other ponds closer to the airport than South Pond.

Island Pond and Western Island Pond to name a few, not to mention as well the

various rivers and streams in the area.

Will the minister consider testing these waters for hydrocarbons to see how

extensive the damage to our water may be in these regions where the damage has

occurred?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, as all municipalities around this Province

should know that we from Environment and Conservation have great expertise in

doing the testing that is required, especially to maintain a good sense of

comfort for the people who are using any water supplies. We have offered that

support to the Town of Torbay, as we do to any town, because again we realize

the importance of a water supply for any town in this Province of Newfoundland

and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Seniors, people with disabilities have to climb nineteen stairs at family and

rehabilitative services with no elevator at the Mission Store building at the

St. Anthony hospital properties. I have been asking for the relocation of this

office to a more accessible site, eleven months later in writing, the answer was

still the status quo.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Child, Youth and Family Services saw fit to

move months ago. I ask: When will the Minister of Health remove this barrier for

my constituents?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as the member opposite knows, we have had discussions around

this. It is not as simple as just moving out of a building and finding another

building, especially in small communities, Mr. Speaker.

Through our repairs and reno budget, Mr. Speaker, we have committed to

looking at that issue. We are always looking at issues of that nature and it is

very much a concern of ours. I have spoken with the member opposite as well

around clinics that we are opening up in that area and around looking at space

around those areas as well. These are concerns of ours, concerns that we intend

to address.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Mr. Speaker, The Strait of Belle Isle Health Centre has

an individual trained as a nurse practitioner who is being underutilized,

impacting continuity of patient care. Since February, 2012, I have asked for the

full utilization of this position with regular clinics so patients would receive

improved service and Labrador-Grenfell Health would get better value for their

dollar spent.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Health: Why is she not interested in

getting better value for our health dollars?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I can hardly believe the question that he just asked. I do not

know if he has been in this House in the last few months or not, Mr. Speaker,

but one of our biggest concerns in this House is around driving efficiencies

within the health care system.

Mr. Speaker, that is why we implemented a benchmarking service within the

Newfoundland and Labrador Health Authorities. That is why are going to go

forward with a clinical efficiency review, and that is why we are going to go

forward with a management efficiency review. We are very much concerned about

finding all of the efficiencies that we can in this Province, Mr. Speaker, so

that we can have more money to invest in the programs and services for the

people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for The Straits White Bay North, time for a

quick question without

preamble, please.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Health: When we can

expect to have regular nurse practitioner clinics started that other areas of

the Province already enjoy?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services, time

for a quick response.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I do not know if the member opposite was in the House the other

day when I presented a particular statement around nurse practitioners. We have

more nurse practitioners practicing in this Province right now than we have ever

had in our history, Mr. Speaker. We have the highest number of nurse

practitioners operating in Canada per 100,000 population.

We are very proud of the work that our nurse practitioners do in the

Province, Mr. Speaker, and we are very much intent on seeing to it that they

move about the Province into other areas as well.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time for Question Period has expired.

Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.

Tabling of Documents.

Notices of Motion.

Notices of Motion

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I hereby give notice, seconded by the Member for Bay of Island, that on a

future day we will move the adoption of the following resolution:

WHEREAS Newfoundland and Labrador has many seasonal industries; and

WHEREAS the climate of our Province determines when work can be done in

agriculture, forestry, the fisheries, highway construction and tourism; and

WHEREAS workers in these industries have become skilled employees whom their

employers value; and

WHEREAS many Newfoundlanders and Labradorians rely on the Employment

Insurance program to sustain them for part of the year during the off-season or

where their employer is functioning at a reduced capacity; and

Insurance system through the provisions of Bill C-38,

An Act to implement

certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 29, 2012 and

other measures; and

WHEREAS some of these changes have had a disproportionately negative impact

on our Province as well as Newfoundlanders and Labradorians; and

WHEREAS the reforms may force these skilled workers to find year-round

employment in trades other than in their own making them unavailable for

seasonal work, which will be devastating for seasonal industries;

BE IT RESOLVED that the Legislative Assembly of Newfoundland and Labrador

employment and industry; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Legislative Assembly of Newfoundland and

Labrador urge the federal government to review its employment insurance reforms

with the intent of eliminating the aspects that negatively impact the people of

Newfoundland and Labrador and our Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.

Petitions.

Petitions

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

A petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and

Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents

humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS students of Adult Basic Education program at the College of the North

Atlantic do not wish to attend privatized educational facilities; and

WHEREAS College of the North Atlantic has the most accredited ABE program in

Newfoundland and Labrador; and

WHEREAS students are concerned about the availability of private institutions

and whether or not they can accommodate additional students;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to reverse

this damaging decision to students and reinstate the Adult Basic Education

programming at the College of the North Atlantic.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, the concern over access to adult education is growing and the

frustration is growing. A lot of this stems from students, instructors, and

other groups around the Province not knowing how Adult Basic Education is going

to unfold.

There are 600 students in three communities in Labrador, Sheshatshiu,

Rigolet, and Nain. They do not know if private institution access is going to be

available in remote areas. If so, if it is, they do not know if the seats are

going to be available.

One thing, Mr. Speaker, that the College of the North Atlantic did supply to

Adult Basic Education students, I guess you could call it in kind, was access to

guidance counsellors, access to student development officers, technical support,

and library facilities. Certainly these things are being questioned by students

and we hope to hear some answers from this government fairly soon.

Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS recently it was announced that the West Coast Training Centre in

Stephenville will lose its annual funding from the Department of Tourism,

Culture and Recreation and will close at the end of June; and

WHEREAS the West Coast Training Centre is a training centre for the region,

not just the immediate area, and has regularly hosted provincial training

programs; and

WHEREAS closing the centre will affect the training of hundreds of young

people in Western Newfoundland and beyond who will have nowhere to train but St.

John's, reducing the number of elite athletes coming from outside the St. John's

area; and

WHEREAS closing this facility will mean lost opportunities for young people

to obtain skilled coaching and for the public to enjoy regular sporting events

and activities;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to maintain funding to the West Coast

Training facility in Stephenville, and work with user groups to develop a

sustainability plan.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this is representative of about 335 names from the Port au Port

region. This centre means an awful lot to those people in that particular

region. We all saw the pictures of the protesting that was happening. It is

representative as well as to what this Budget can do and what the Budget cuts

were actually doing to smaller regions, rural regions of the Province.

These people have a right, Mr. Speaker, to be heard and to have government

listen to them. We are talking about $200,000 in funding; about $90,000 of which

was coming from the Tourism department and about $100,000, $110,000 from

Transportation and Works to keep the building open.

Mr. Speaker, this was a very small budgetary item that has a huge effect on

the people of the Port au Port area. This is a centre where young people were

going. This is a centre where it gave younger students, younger people in the

area, something to do on a Friday night. It would get them out there and

socializing.

Besides that, Mr. Speaker, we also have the instance here where you had

low-cost physical activity that was happening here, lower than probably what you

would find in the City of St. John's. This was also a cornerstone of the

community that the government was dumping. These people want to know why.

These people are signing because they want to see that sustainability plan

put in place, Mr. Speaker. They do not want to lose their centre and we wholly

support them in their efforts.

Thank you very much.

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: A petition to the hon. House of Assembly for the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS home care allows the elderly and people with disabilities to remain

within the comfort and security of their own homes, home care also allows people

to be discharged from hospital earlier; and

WHEREAS many families find it very difficult to recruit and retain home care

workers for their loved ones; and

WHEREAS the PC Blue Book 2011, as well as the 2012 Speech from the Throne,

committed that government would develop a new model of home care and give people

the option of receiving that care from family members; and

WHEREAS government has given no time commitment for when government plans to

implement paying family caregivers;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to

implement a new home care model to cover family caregivers.

As in duty bound, your petitioner

will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this is actually a petition that came through from last year and

the petitions keep on coming in. Admittedly, the government now seems to have

made some feeble steps to outline some funds that they may advance for this

particular program sometime during this year. Mr. Speaker, that does not give

much comfort to the people who require the service, the people to whom the

service was provided.

If the government made a promise, if the political party made a promise that

the government is supposed to follow through on, it would seem much, much better

for them to then follow through on their promise instead of having to be dragged

kicking and screaming up to almost like drag them up the bar and say look, you

made this promise a year ago, two years ago, three years ago, when will you

satisfy your promise.

Ultimately, nobody likes someone who makes a promise and ultimately,

begrudgingly decides to go along with it. It does not mean that they made it

willingly; it does not mean that it was made in good faith. It means that they

made a promise, they benefited from a promise at the polls, and finally they are

being held accountable.

Mr. Speaker, the people are watching and really want this promise to be

satisfied as soon as possible.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS transgendered people face high risk of discrimination, violence,

underemployment, and a lack of access to housing and other services; and

WHEREAS a recent EGALE Canada survey found that 90 per cent of transgender

youth hear transphobic comments regularly from other students and one-quarter

hear such comments from teachers; and

WHEREAS the Public Health Agency of Canada reports that nearly half of trans

youth seriously considered suicide and one-fifth attempted it in the previous

year; and

WHEREAS all individuals should have equal opportunity to live their lives and

meet their needs without being hindered or prevented by discriminatory practices

based on gender identity or gender expression;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to amend the Human Rights Act to include

gender identity and gender expression in the list of prohibited grounds of

discrimination.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I have such mixed emotions to stand today and to present this

petition. I think it is only fitting to stand and present it when we were so

honoured to have members from the Jewish Community Havura here in the House, as

we honour the work that they did in their Holocaust memorial. The Jewish

community constantly has to remind us the cost and the effects of bigotry, of

hate, of discrimination, and of intolerance.

They are constantly reminding us that we have to be vigilant, and this is

what we are dealing with here with transgendered folks. They are among the most

vilified, bullied, and discriminated against people in our society. They are

still without explicit rights and protection in our provincial Human Rights Act.

Without full co-ordinated health services, many groups and individuals are

making a difference by pushing for change that is long overdue. I am also

urgently asking the Minister of Justice to consider this, particularly because

he has cut the budget of our Human Rights Commission in half in the last two

years in half, Mr. Speaker. This is not the time to be cutting the budget for

that.

I find it profoundly disturbing that at this point in our history when the

human rights law is telling us that this needs to be done, that this Province is

dragging its heels. I find it profoundly disturbing. It is time for this

government to do the right thing.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, I have a petition to the hon. House of

Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled,

the petition of the undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS students of the Adult Basic Education program at the College of the

North Atlantic do not wish to attend privatized educational facilities; and

WHEREAS College of the North Atlantic has the most accredited Adult Basic

Education program in Newfoundland and Labrador; and

WHERAS students are concerned as to the availability of private institutions

and whether or not they can accommodate additional students;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to reverse this damaging decision to

students and reinstate the Adult Basic Education program at the College of the

North Atlantic.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this is something I have received numerous e-mails on. I know

that members on the government side are getting them, too, because I see their

names in the CC section. I know they are getting it. I hope that they are

reading it and perhaps even responding and explaining to these people the

rationale behind the decision.

Certainly, I have not had any opportunity to find out why. I have listened to

the answers given by the Premier and the minister. The numbers do not add up.

They do not agree with the report they paid $150,000 for, so I find it hard to

figure out who is right or wrong here. Is it John Noseworthy or is it the

Minister of Advanced Education and Skills?

Again, some of the decisions made by government, they have instituted their

own duplication. They have contradicted themselves in many ways. All of this is

doing is hurting the students and the teachers in the communities in which ABE

is involved. I still have not seen the RFP; I am looking forward to that and.

Hopefully at some point we will get some answers. I know there are certainly a

lot of students and teachers out there in this Province who would like to get

some. So far none have been forthcoming.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: A petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned residents humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS there is no cellphone service in the Towns of St. Pauls, Cow Head,

Sally's Cove, or Trout River, all of which are enclave communities in Gros Morne

National Park; and

WHEREAS there is either very poor or no cellphone service in most of Gros

Morne National Park; and

WHEREAS visitors to Gros Morne National Park, more than 100,000 annually,

expect to use cellphones when they visit the park; and

WHEREAS cellphone service is an important safety feature for numerous

travellers, hikers, and others in the park; and

WHEREAS cellphone service is necessary to modern business development;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to partner

with the private sector to extend cellphone coverage throughout Gros Morne

National Park and the enclave communities within the park.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, if this government would move forward with proper regulation for

fracking, and if the exploration companies will be permitted to do the

exploration where they want to do the exploration in certain enclave communities

near and adjacent to the park, then the economic development that would be

generated would generate a commercial need for the services that these people

are being denied. It is a real irony that these people, sixty-two of them from

St. Paul's, and I see one from Reefs Harbour, who signed the petition would like

to have cellphone service. They would actually like to have cellphone service in

their communities. Cellphone service bypasses them.

The type of economic development that the park has brought has been good

economic development, but very short term, summertime. It certainly does not

serve all of the residents that well. In fact, it may now be a hindrance because

others may oppose any further development in the park, which would be a

downside. These people would then be left without services that would surely

come if the government would move forward, bring in proper regulations related

to fracking, and permit development to proceed.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Orders of the Day

Private Members' Day

MR. SPEAKER: Today being Private Member's Day, I now call on the Member

for St. John's West to introduce the motion that is in his name on the Order

Paper.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is my privilege to move the following private member's resolution,

seconded by the hon. Member for Bonavista North.

BE IT RESOLVED that this hon. House supports this government's actions to

ensure public programs and services for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians are

designed and delivered in ways that are results-focused and effective as well as

innovative, efficient, and affordable.

Mr. Speaker, I am quote pleased to rise today and speak on this motion. As a

government, we have a mandate and responsibility not to a single community or an

organization, but to residents of all communities across the Province

collectively.

Mr. Speaker, this government has done a lot of great work over the past

number of years. We have introduced and expanded many innovative programs and

services, and we have made significant and smart investments across the board;

significant and smart investments in areas such as health, education, social

programs, and infrastructure. We did all this while still being able to pay down

the provincial debt by $4 billion.

Mr. Speaker, that is sound and responsible fiscal management. To continue our

great work, to ensure our future prosperity, and to ensure that our economic

development continues, this government has developed a strategic approach and a

sound plan to ensure that public programs and services for Newfoundlanders and

Labradorians are innovative, efficient, and affordable. This includes

investments in people and in skills development.

Through Budget 2013, the provincial government is allocating $466 million to

enhance skills and training at the post-secondary level, including the

continuation of a tuition freeze at the College of the North Atlantic and

Memorial University for the 2013-2014 academic year. Mr. Speaker, speaking of

affordability, it is worth noting that Memorial University undergraduate tuition

fees are approximately 53 per cent lower than the national average, while the

College of the North Atlantic tuition fees are approximately 49 per cent lower

than the national average.

Just a point of reference, Mr. Speaker, I know the Member for The Straits

White Bay North rose yesterday and said he was twenty-seven years old.

Twenty-seven years ago, almost to the day, I graduated from Memorial University.

At that time, I graduated with a significant debt. I come from a humble

household. The tuition fees of today are not that significant compared with what

they were twenty-seven years ago. The challenges we faced back then as students

were incredible in terms of getting ourselves through university. The challenges

we faced as graduates was even more incredible in terms of getting ourselves

attached to the workforce.

Mr. Speaker, today, going to university today with the tuition freeze the way

it is now, it is so much more affordable and so much easier on our students. The

opportunities today that exist versus twenty-seven years ago are absolutely

incredibly amazing in the difference, and I hold that for sure.

Mr. Speaker, securing educational opportunities, encouraging life-long

learning, and advancing literacy throughout Newfoundland and Labrador are key

priorities of our government, because they open the door to long-term success.

In recognition of the importance of effective adult learning and quality

post-secondary education, we are working with students to advance our long-term

plan to provide better, viable, more effective supports to help people overcome

challenges and barriers to employment.

Mr. Speaker, as part of this approach, the Department of Advanced Education

and Skills is changing changing, I say, Mr. Speaker the delivery of the

provincial Adult Basic Education Program, which will include moving the program

out of the College of the North Atlantic and engaging new training providers,

both in the private and non-profit sectors through a Request for Proposals

process. It is important to note, Mr. Speaker, that 60 per cent of all Adult

Basic Education students in Newfoundland and Labrador today currently receive

their education through third-party providers.

So, really, the change is not that significant for most of the students

receiving ABE training. In spite of the fears that are circulating, mostly from

misinformation, it is important for students to know that ABE curriculum itself

is not changing, and the eligibility requirements for funding will also remain

the same at private providers and non-profit organizations as they have been at

the College of the North Atlantic.

In the coming weeks, Advanced Education and Skills staff will be meeting with

the students to develop a transition plan that will ensure the switch to a

different training institution is as smooth as possible. Working together, we

will continue to empower people through quality adult learning and help them

seek opportunities in our thriving economy. Ultimately, Mr. Speaker, we want to

build an Adult Basic Education Program that supports the need to ensure a more

effective delivery of services for students.

Mr. Speaker, annually, it costs approximately $5,000 more to provide ABE to

students at the College of the North Atlantic than at private institutions, and

the average cost of ABE per student in this Province is about three times the

cost of other Atlantic provinces. Mr. Speaker, for anybody to suggest that we

should accept that and move forward with the status quo, I find that

unacceptable.

I think we need to be looking at efficiencies and effectiveness when it comes

to whatever programs we deliver, and for anybody to suggest otherwise, Mr.

Speaker, are not handling the public purse as well as they should be. These

numbers, combined with the fact that the graduation rate in 2011-2012 for ABE

was approximately 37 per cent, clearly shows that a new plan for Adult Basic

Education was needed to strengthen accountability, improve results, and ensure

adult learners get the education and skills they need.

Mr. Speaker, just speaking about graduation rates, we obviously understand

there are many people doing ABE who are facing barriers and challenges. Mr.

Speaker, we need to provide the supports to help them through that. We know, for

instance, that in the private institutions, and I have gotten calls from

operators of private institutions who said their success rates were even higher

than what has been reported. In fact, some of the colleges have been out in the

media talking about 80 per cent and 90 per cent graduation rates and success

rates.

Mr. Speaker, we know the private institutions are delivering good service. We

also know the challenges and barriers facing some of the people who are out

there are significant in achieving their ABE. We need to put quality control in

place. We have to be results-oriented as we move forward, and that is part of

the RFP process that we are going to go through. We want to make sure people

graduate in a timely fashion when they are doing their ABE program so they can

attach themselves to the workforce, skill themselves up and get a job sooner and

quicker, and contribute to the economy.

Mr. Speaker, we will continue to ensure that ABE is offered to people across

Newfoundland and Labrador and we will ensure graduates will have the confidence,

self-sufficiency and knowledge to contribute to our economy and, again, to help

ensure a sustainable future. Students will receive the same standard and content

of ABE at private institutions and not-for-profit organizations as they received

at the College of the North Atlantic. This is very important, Mr. Speaker.

Eligibility requirements for funding will also remain the same. Mr. Speaker,

that is as equally as important.

Just to clarify again, some of the private institutions and organizations

have been offering ABE and the exact same curriculum as the program at the

College of the North Atlantic for more than twenty years. I know of at least

three institutions that I spoke with that, indeed, are doing that and have done

that. In fact, Mr. Speaker, the Rabbittown Learners Program, which now offers

ABE Level I, is about to celebrate twenty-five years of success. I am going to

be happy to attend that ceremony this weekend coming up.

Mr. Speaker, our plan through Budget 2013 is a plan focused on developing new

approaches that will better prepare people to find work and establish a career.

Over 230,000 Newfoundlanders and Labradorians are working, the most in our

history. There are 70,000 job openings that are going to come over the next ten

years.

Mr. Speaker, just to qualify that, I read reports in the media and some

columnists have said: Where are these jobs coming from? Simply, Mr. Speaker, we

are an aging demographic. We have people who are going to be retiring. There is

going to be attrition. Ninety per cent of the 70,000 jobs are going to come

through that attrition through retirements. The other 10,000 or 15,000 jobs will

be coming through new economic opportunities.

Mr. Speaker, the provincial government is committed to maximizing this

pivotal time in Newfoundland and Labrador's history to benefit all residents, to

improve our financial position and to deliver effective programming for the long

term.

Mr. Speaker, what an exciting time it is to be exploring possibilities in

Newfoundland and Labrador. Just last week I attended an ambitious conference

featuring that very message. Hosted by the Office to Advance Women Apprentices,

and officially opened by Premier Dunderdale, Exploring the Possibilities was

held on April 18 and April 19 in Mount Pearl.

Mr. Speaker, over 1,300 women and young people attended the conference, which

included an interactive trades' expo and sessions with female role models

already in the industry. Feedback on the conference was beneficial, enlightening

and very positive. In fact, I am told by the office that five female apprentices

received offers of employment after connecting with employers' right in the

room.

Mr. Speaker, I was there with my son, and he spoke to a millwright who is in

training. The millwright who is just coming out of school, he was an apprentice,

had three job offers. When he told my son what the job offers were and how much

he was going to get paid, my son made the decision on the spot that he is going

to become a millwright now. We are still investigating where he wants to be in

two years from now but he sounded pretty excited. The passion he heard from

these students who were graduating, or in the process of graduating was just

amazing and inspiring to him.

Mr. Speaker, when the Office to Advance Women Apprentices office opened in

2009, there were ninety female apprentices registered and nine female

journeypersons after its first year of operation. Today, there are 613 female

apprentices registered and forty female journeypersons. That is absolutely an

incredible, impressive jump in a short period of time, and that is what we talk

about when we talk about results-oriented, Mr. Speaker.

In a time when education skills and creativity are key, the provincial

government is helping our young people explore rewarding lives and career paths,

and making sure young people are ready for the growing needs of industry. At the

high school level, for example, Mr. Speaker, we have expanded the Youth

Apprenticeship Program which provides high school students in participating

schools the opportunity to gain skilled trades work experience for five schools

to ten.

Mr. Speaker, fostering an interest in skilled trades for our next generation

of women and young people has been of paramount importance over the last decade

for this government. After building on diversity and gender equity agreements

for those under-represented in the skilled trades and generating apprenticeship

opportunities and journeyperson mentorship, we are investing a further $42

million this year, Mr. Speaker, through Budget 2013 for the development of our

skilled workforce. This includes $5.2 million to support apprenticeship and

trades.

Mr. Speaker, nothing happens by chance. It takes sound and decisive plans to

help provide employment for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians and help secure

prosperity for the future.

Mr. Speaker, a few minutes ago I mentioned about misinformation around the

ABE changes. Similar misinformation has been circulating around the College of

the North Atlantic. The truth of the matter is that the College of the North

Atlantic will continue to help people realize their full potential and will do

so more effectively by adapting to meet per province's skilled labour demands.

Mr. Speaker, to ensure existing programs are run more effectively and

efficiently, the delivery of programming at the College of the North Atlantic is

evolving. Mr. Speaker, it is evolving so that the college is responsive to a

growing demand for the skilled labour in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, last week seven new programs at the College of the North

Atlantic were introduced for the fall semester. They are range from Primary Care

Paramedicine course in Bay St. George; Personal Care Attendant in Baie Verte;

Office Administration certificate and Cook in Bonavista; Construction Industrial

Electrician in Grand Falls Windsor; Personal Care Attendant in Placentia; and

Powerline Technician in St. Anthony.

As post-secondary programs that no longer meet student labour market

requirements are reduced, new responsive programs will be introduced by the

college to address the gaps that exist. Mr. Speaker, this is an ongoing process

with the college. They are always examining what programs they are providing and

what programs they need to provide for the future. What is happening here is

nothing strange, Mr. Speaker. It is consistent with what has been done in the

past.

Mr. Speaker, I see I have about a minute left so I would like to just close.

Across the Province there are positive examples of how many investments this

government is making that are improving lives, creating jobs, and making our

future a very exciting one. From the Historic Skilled Trades Conference for

Women and Youth, new course offerings at the College of the North Atlantic, and

to the approved delivery of Adult Basic Education, I am optimistic for the

future of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL: Ultimately, our investments are innovative, efficient, and

affordable programs of services are investments to people, Mr. Speaker. We are

doing this because their individual successes will be instrumental to the

overall success of Newfoundland and Labrador into the future.

Mr. Speaker, it is going to be a great pleasure to get input from the

Official Opposition on this particular motion, as well as the Third Party. I am

pleased to open up the debate on this motion today and I look forward to hearing

their views.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER (Verge): Order, please!

The Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

When I saw the private member's resolution, the two or three little lines

that it is, I thought that the talent scouts who recruited Shawn Majumder and

Rick Mercer missed the funniest people in the Province, because the funniest

people in the Province are the ones who would write this private member's

resolution and expect this government to be congratulated on the last ten years.

Good grief, there is a litany of losses and an absolute spectacle of

incompetence for the last ten years. It is just completely unbelievable, and

then they want to be congratulated on wasting money. Good grief.

Anyway, Mr. Speaker, there is a story in January from The Canadian

Press . It says, "Newfoundland and Labrador's auditor general says provincial

expenses have skyrocketed in recent years and are now about 50 per cent more per

person than the average of all other provinces." They are supposed to be

congratulated for spending 50 per cent more than all other provinces.

He goes on to say, "Per capita expenses are the highest in the country". Good

grief, we went from a have Province to a we-have-money-to-waste Province. He

goes on to say, "there might be some room for looking at reductions or

efficiencies."

"His departmental review includes some eye-popping examples of what his

report describes as excessive salaries, lax accounting and breached funding

guidelines."

"For example, the vice-president of human resources and strategic planning

was paid $125,835 last year an increase of 119 per cent" since 2008, over

double the salary from 2008 to 2012. Good grief.

"The auditor's review notes that the centre's government-appointed board

wrote to the provincial health minister on March 4, 2008" five years ago

"about plans to adjust salary scales. It never got a response." I think adjust

would mean to come down, or maybe get in touch with reality. Instead of that, we

have this ridiculous private member's resolution, which makes you absolutely

hysterical just to read it. I pity the poor taxpayers. They will get their

chance in 2015.

In spending so much money, then the government trumpets how well it is doing,

but how well is it doing? How well is it doing in health care? How well is it

doing in education? How well is it doing in business development? Not very well,

Mr. Speaker.

In April 2012, the Canadian Institute for Health Information, CIHI, released

results from the Canadian Hospital Reporting Project and said that our largest

hospital, the Health Sciences complex, had below average performance in

twenty-eight day readmission for stroke, thirty-day mortality after stroke, and

five-day mortality after major surgery. This is what we are getting for our

money, Mr. Speaker. It is absolutely disgraceful that the government would spend

so much money, get such poor results, and then expect to be applauded for it.

Mr. Speaker, the way that they save money in this Province, this government

does, is by merging health boards. Now they are merging school boards again

after the second time around. In 2007, the Auditor General reviewed the merger

of the health boards and noted that in 2004, when this Province merged their

health boards, this government claimed they would save $7 million. Over the next

two years the cost for administration went up by $51.8 million. Yet, they are

supposed to save $7 million over the two-year period for 2004-2005 to 2006-2007.

Let's say we were getting good results for this extra money that we are

paying, all of this money that is simply going out the door and down the drain.

If you look at the state of health of the people of this Province and, Mr.

Speaker, it has been ten years. If this government had decided to take money and

be proactive in preventive medicine and in lifestyle choices, what would we

have?

Would we have that Newfoundland and Labrador has the most obese population

per capita in Canada, 63.2 per cent more than a body mass index of twenty-five?

We should not be there. If we did something about our transportation and

promotion of good eating habits, we would not say that only 28.6 per cent of our

population gets five servings of fruit and vegetables per day, compared to 43

per cent for the national average. The only two places to do worse in fresh

fruit and vegetable consumption are Nunavut and the Northwest Territories. They

are practically in the North Pole.

We are sitting along side of the rest of Canada with all sorts of

transportation, ferries galore, and we still cannot provide fresh fruit and

vegetables for our population. What is the outcome, Mr. Speaker, when you have

an obese population without adequate access to fresh fruit and vegetables? To

start with, the heart attack rate is the highest in the country. The heart

attack rate ten years after this government is 320 hospitalizations for 100,000

people, compared to the Canadian average of 209. We are 50 per cent higher than

the Canadian average and the highest in the country. Not something to be proud

of, not something to be congratulated for.

Then there is high blood pressure. We have the highest rate of high blood

pressure in Canada. Then there is also diabetes. We have one of the highest

incidents of diabetes. If you do not take care of your health if this

government had embarked ten years ago, instead of trying to consolidate

hospitals and just throwing away money, had it embarked on preventive medicine,

had it embarked on appropriate promotion for people maybe for exercise, health,

and eating habits, maybe our diabetics would not be the highest in Canada. When

we have a sky-high rate of diabetes and even then the AG points out that this

may even be under-reported in diabetes. Mr. Speaker, the complications from

diabetes over a lifetime are horrific. They are absolutely horrific, from

amputations of toes and feet to macular degeneration, all sorts of complications

from diabetes, and the government yet congratulates itself and spends more money

than any other province to govern us and more money than any other province for

health care with such abominable results. It does not end there.

Mr. Speaker, the education system is simply not performing, and this comes

from the government's own statistics. This is nothing invented by anybody else.

I noticed yesterday in Question Period the Minister of Education failed his

math exam when he missed four classrooms of students when he is trying to build

a school. I do not know how many that is, probably seventy or eighty or a

hundred kids. I think a course in demography might help.

What we also have not seen yet, is this government provided a school climate

survey in 2012 of Grade 12 students all across the Province. It was put online,

downloaded and printed. The school climate survey says only 48 per cent of the

Grade 12 students in Eastern School District were able to get help regarding

scholarships. Well, Mr. Speaker, if scholarships are available and students are

interested in applying for scholarships for higher education, shouldn't they

have the assistance from guidance and from teachers? Only 48 per cent of them

said they received any help regarding scholarships.

Now we have more education cuts. How will this further impact students, who

are seeking to go on to university and technical schools? It does not end with

scholarship applications. Only 48 per cent of them said they could participate

in science projects, and this is before we collapsed the boards 48 per cent.

This is Province-wide, Mr. Speaker, 48 per cent had an opportunity to

participate in science projects and this government congratulates itself.

Yesterday the Minister of Education said that we are looking for a broader

type of education, a broader type of student. A broader type of student is not

one with a bigger body mass index. It is one with a better education, and we are

simply not getting it. The performance is not here with this government. Is

science important? Clearly, science is important to most schools.

Then we go on to school violence, anti-bullying. In the same school climate

survey conducted last year of Grade 12 students in this Province, 39.4 per cent

of the students admitted they had seen another student bullied within the last

thirty days. How will collapsing school boards and getting rid of more teachers

improve the school climate for our students in our schools?

Mr. Speaker, the tenor of this government has been to promote, promote,

promote. This government is all sizzle and no steak. In fact, if this was in

Western Canada if it was in Alberta and somebody was commenting on this

government, they would say: this is like all hat and no cowboy; all cowboy and

no hat. They just do not get it.

This government is intent on promoting itself. How does it promote itself? It

promotes itself by underhandedly manipulating public opinion polls on the radio.

Well, Mr. Speaker, never mind the obvious. Why are public resources being used

by elected officials on the other side of the House to make the government look

good?

Some of the quotes that go back is, if you clear the history and cookies each

time you start the Internet again, you can vote multiple times. To vote multiple

times is to convince people that things are not the way they are. Mr. Speaker,

it is improper, unethical, and in my view a corrupt way to manage public opinion

to make people think that more people are on the side of an argument than there

is.

Then we have another quote saying: Another awesome week on Open Line and

the member is looking right at me thanks to everyone who participated. We will

be in touch with you some time in the next day or so to arrange a

schedule for

next week.

Mr. Speaker, this is the people who are elected to represent us and who are

elected to govern us, and what do they do? They say: well, I realize this has

been constant and I am sure many of you are probably sick of these PINs,

however, this is very necessary in order to counter the political spin put forth

by the Liberals, and particularly the Third Party. These guys are hungry, we

must be hungrier.

I would suggest, Mr. Speaker, if government after ten years would simply

govern and do a good job in governing, they would not have to worry about public

opinion polls. The tenor of any organization comes from the top. It is the tone

from the top.

On December 17, 2012, the Premier said: I am always happy when the polls are

stable or good, and I am not happy when they are not but I can't govern by

polls. Mr. Speaker, if you manipulate the polls to get the outcome you want by

overloading the system and having people call and bypass a legitimate poll, than

clearly it must be important to the government to pour these public resources

into getting false positives.

September 11, 2012, the Premier also said: responsible leaders do not govern

based on polls. I agree, absolutely. Responsible governments do not either, and

properly performing governments do not need to. If the performance was there we

would not need this waste of PMR, we would not need the self-congratulations, we

would not need the members on the other side so bent out of shape clapping

themselves on the back that probably by tomorrow they will all have to go off to

a chiropractor to get straightened out. We certainly would not need that.

To show you how this government looks at governing, the Premier compared

voting in online polls to TV shows like Canadian Idol and the annual CBC sports

competition, Kraft Hockeyville. I would say, Mr. Speaker, that is exactly where

we are with this government. This government is all show and no go, all sizzle,

no steak, complete window dressing and that is what this PMR is for. They treat

governing like a game show. They try to manipulate public opinion. This PMR is

just one final step.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will not be supporting this PMR.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Finance.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have the opportunity to speak to this resolution today, but last night I

had the opportunity in the House to talk about the years between 2003 to the

current Budget. Then I had the opportunity to talk about the current economic

situation in the Province.

Mr. Speaker, the situation is anything but the doom and gloom that the

naysayers on the other side would have us believe. We knew when we brought in

this Budget, Mr. Speaker, that there would be criticism. We knew any time there

are layoffs and people's lives are impacted adversely that there would be

outcry. We knew there would be politics played on the other side in terms

outlining all of the negatives that are in the Budget and negatives around the

government.

Mr. Speaker, this government is about sizzle. On the other side, contrary to

what the member said, it is about fizzle. That is what I am going to demonstrate

to you today, Mr. Speaker, are the good things in this Budget. Because what

happens, Mr. Speaker, is that and perhaps it is as a result as a people having

lived on this rock in the North Atlantic for so many years that we do not expect

a lot from life.

Maybe it is as a result of having to scrape by over the years that we have

had to have a sense of humour and always look perhaps more at what might have

been than the what is, but it is the what is, Mr. Speaker, that is so positive

in our Province today. Although there are, I accept there are criticisms of the

Budget. The reasons behind the Budget are to ensure a bright and sustainable

future for our children and grandchildren.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: There are a lot of good things in the Budget. I am going to

concentrate on two areas today, Mr. Speaker, and hopefully I will have the

opportunity to speak again. I am going to talk first about those areas that most

important to the people of our Province, at least that I heard during the

pre-Budget consultations. Those are the health care system and the education

system.

Let's talk a little bit about the investments in health care in Budget 2013,

Mr. Speaker. Let's talk about our investment of $138 million in the Newfoundland

and Labrador Prescription Drug Program, including $5.1 million to allow for

twelve new drug therapies, Mr. Speaker.

Let's talk about the $30 million in dialysis services annually to support

fourteen existing dialysis sites, seven of which have been added since 2004, Mr.

Speaker. There is $4.4 million for new cancer drug therapies; $2.5 million for

the Breast Cancer Screening Program, which will allow women aged forty to

forty-nine who are referred by their primary health care provider to be part of

the program; $2 million for the continuation of the Newfoundland and Labrador

Colon Cancer Screening Program; and $2 million to address endoscopy wait times

and wait-lists.

These are the kinds of good things that we are not hearing much about today,

Mr. Speaker. It is somewhat understandable. I am hoping, though, that over the

next few weeks our members will get up and they will talk about the good things

that are happening in their district, and the good things that are happening

throughout this Province, as I will try to demonstrate today.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Let's look at a couple of these good things that are

happening. Let's look at the $14.4 million in Budget 2013 for the continued

construction of the Labrador West health centre. I do not have the numbers right

now, but the last figure I was aware of, Mr. Speaker, was $90 million for a new

hospital in Labrador West; $12.5 million for the continuation of the PET scanner

project at the Health Sciences; $11.5 million for the continued redevelopment of

the Central Newfoundland Regional Health Centre in Grand Falls-Windsor.

What we have, a new hospital in Labrador West, a PET scanner in St. John's at

the Health Sciences, continued redevelopment in Central Newfoundland. What we

are seeing is as a government we are ensuring that the wealth is spread

throughout the Province as it comes to health care.

This is an area that I also want to talk about because we have not heard much

about this; $8.4 million in this year's Budget for the construction of the new

Adult Addictions Centre in Harbour Grace, Mr. Speaker $8.4 million.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Mr. Speaker, $6.5 million for the continued construction of

the treatment centre for youth with complex mental health needs in Paradise; $4

million for the continued construction of the treatment centre for youth with

addictions in Grand Falls-Windsor. This year alone, Mr. Speaker, there will be

close to $20 million spent to build new addiction and mental health treatment

centres in this Province.

This is a government that looks to helping people who have problems. Mr.

Speaker, by doing that, we ensure that they have the opportunity to become

contributing and functioning members of society. That is what we are trying to

do, a government with a social conscience.

Then, Mr. Speaker, $700,000 for the continued planning for the replacement of

the Waterford Hospital in St. John's with a new specialized mental health

facility. We are seeing addictions Central Newfoundland, in Labrador, Eastern

Newfoundland and Labrador and then the Waterford Hospital. Those are just some

of the programs in health.

Then we have $227 million announced over the next three years for the new

acute care facility in Corner Brook.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: So those figures alone are $300 million or $400 million I

have talked about there invested in health care this year. At this point, 39 per

cent of our total Budget is going to the health care system. That is a priority.

That is all in Budget 2013. It is all good news.

Now, let's then get to education, Mr. Speaker. What are we doing in education

in Budget 2013? All we have heard about is the negative, the naysayers. Let's

just look at what we are doing: $102 million in Kindergarten to Grade 12

infrastructure over the past nine years excuse me, there will be $102 million

for new and ongoing school infrastructure projects.

Twenty-five million dollars is for planning for a new school in Gander, an

extension to Elizabeth Park in Paradise, Coley's Point, Portugal Cove-St.

Phillips, Torbay, Paradise, and G.C. Rowe in Corner Brook. All over the Province

the wealth is being spread, Mr. Speaker.

Then $77 million for ongoing capital improvements; a new west end high school

in St. John's, $18.3 million for that, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Ten million dollars to continue construction of the new St.

Teresa's school in St. John's; $8 million to continue the extension and

renovation at Roncalli Elementary in St. John's; $6.6 million to develop the

former Regina High in Corner Brook; $4.6 million to continue construction in St.

Anthony, Exploits Valley High in Grand Falls-Windsor, Virginia Park Elementary

in St. John's; $3.7 million to continue construction of a new school in

Carbonear, then Torbay, Conception Bay South, Paradise, and Portugal Cove-St.

Phillips.

What we have, Mr. Speaker, is money is being spread throughout the Province

to build schools and to ensure good facilities for the education of our

children.

We have heard the Minister of Education, who is doing an admirable job, stand

up in this House and talk

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: about the thirty-nine schools. I have said to myself: No,

it cannot be; that figure must be wrong. I have to go and add this up for

myself. So I had a look at it. What do we have?

Since 2004, $620 million has been allocated for K-12 infrastructure in

Newfoundland and Labrador, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Nine new schools have opened; ten more are in various stages

of planning or construction, that is nineteen; twelve are undergoing major

extension and renovation projects, that is thirty-one; and eight more are

underway or in the planning stages thirty-nine, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thirty-nine schools either built, being built, or in the

planning and construction stages. Mr. Speaker, how can anyone in this Province

doubt the Premier's commitment or this minister's commitment to education in

this Province?

The minister himself, who has been under attack, has been an educator all of

his life. I remember so clearly, Mr. Speaker, we were sitting there during the

school board's press conference. I remember this because it really struck me as

to what MHAs bring we bring our life experiences; we bring our beliefs and

morals to the job. The minister said: I have been teaching all my life. I have

been an educator, a principal all my life. Why would I do anything that would

hurt the children of our Province? That defines the approach we take as a

government. Thirty-nine schools, I think, is a very good example of this

approach.

Now, let's look at student debt, let's look at post-secondary, what we are

doing there. Budget 2013 provides $25.8 million to reduce student debt; an

additional $3.8 million to Memorial to continue the tuition freeze for

2013-2014. Mr. Speaker, over $186 million since 2004, the tuition freeze has

cost at MUN and at the College of the North Atlantic; $19 million for the

continuation of up-front, needs-based grants and interest-free student loans; $3

million for continued debt reduction grants.

Mr. Speaker, Memorial University undergraduate tuition fees are approximately

53 per cent lower than the national average, and the College of the North

Atlantic tuition fees are approximately 49 per cent lower than the national

average.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Now, faced with the situation we were in the Budget, Mr.

Speaker, we could have raised tuition fees. We could have said we need to get

some money; Memorial needs more money. We chose not to again, showing the

Premier's commitment and our government's commitment to ensure that the students

of our Province receive a good education at a reasonable cost.

Do you know what has happened, Mr. Speaker? Memorial University has become

the largest university in Atlantic Canada with almost 20,000 students right now.

Drive by the parkway, look at the buildings going up; and, when we talk about

buildings, $88.3 million, a total investment to complete the opening of the new

residence at Memorial St. John's and Grenfell campuses.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Look over there, Mr. Speaker, as you are driving down the

Parkway. So we have lowered tuition. We have maintained the tuition freeze. We

are building new residences. Is it any wonder that students in Atlantic Canada

want to come to Memorial, want to come to St. John's, and want to come to Corner

Brook to continue their education?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Now, I only have a couple of minutes left. I want to talk

about our roads and our communities because that is another big area, Mr.

Speaker, another big area of investment in our Province: $59 million this year

for provincial road construction projects; $43.1 million to complete the last

full season of paving on Phase I and commence widening and paving sections of

Phase II and III of the Trans-Labrador Highway, $43.1 million

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: $26.5 million to support several major Trans-Canada

Highway rehabilitation projects near Stephenville and Gander; $20.6 million, if

we get there, for the first year of construction of the Placentia lift bridge;

$10.4 million to finish the Conception Bay South Bypass and the Team Gushue

Highway; $12.3 million to begin construction of the replacement of the Sir

Robert Bond Bridge, and the list goes on.

Now I want to move to our communities, Mr. Speaker, and to outline again. We

have the Minister of Transportation and Works, but I also want to pay special

attention to the work done by our Minister of Municipal Affairs, Mr. Speaker,

who continuously meets with our municipal leaders throughout this Province. He

communicates with them and he says: How can we help you help yourselves and help

us make the Province a better place?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Let's just have a look at what we are doing this year in

Municipal Affairs: $130 million for the second year of a Municipal Capital Works

Program to support water and waste water treatment, regionalization projects,

municipal buildings, recreational facilities, and one of his favourites,

firefighting equipment. What the minister has shown, Mr. Speaker, is he goes to

every fire department in this Province. What he shows is that we recognize and

accept the important role played by volunteer firefighters, and if we can do

anything to help you, we will. That is what the minister has done, Mr. Speaker.

Also, we are moving into a new area now, so there was some trepidation but

the minister went out and explained to the communities. We have $25 million, in

2013, for a capital works program for our seven municipalities with more than

11,000 people. Then we have the Municipal Operating Grants that someone spoke

about last night.

What we are seeing, Mr. Speaker, is a situation where health care services

have not only been maintained, but have again been increased and enhanced. We

have our transportation, which is continuing to rebuild our roads to ensure that

the money is spent throughout the Province. We have our education system which

is second-to-none. Then, we have our municipal affairs in terms of our

communities.

We have our families, we have our education and health care system, we have

our roads, and we have our communities. That is not a bad start to a Budget that

is supposed to be so negative, Mr. Speaker. I am sure you are going to hear over

the next few weeks all of the work that has been done and you are going to hear

the positive things that are going to happen, that have happened in Budget 2013.

So, Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to have this opportunity to support this motion

today, and it is very important to recognize that even in tough times this

government is doing good things, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you very much.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I appreciate the opportunity to stand in this House and speak to this private

member's resolution. I appreciate the words spoken by the members opposite.

The Minister of Finance is certainly on a roll, a very rousing speech today

and a rousing speech tonight. I am trying to inject a sense of reality into

the good news that is coming out, there is another side. We are going to bring a

bit of the other news that is coming out of this Budget as well.

The fact is this private member's resolution is really just a code, I guess,

for a pat on the back. It is actually a case of breaking your arm off to pat

yourself on the back, is what it really does to you. The fact is, we can talk

about some of the investments but we should talk about the resolution says

public programs and services. I want to bring up some of those public programs

and services and some of the things going on here in this government's

resolution. I guess self praise is better than no praise.

One of the things I want to talk about, the minister mentioned education and

health care and roads. Do you know what? Those are all important things, but one

important area that was not brought up is our justice system, which is a

fundamental part of this system as well. I do not see anything coming from the

other side talking about how we have improved our justice system in this

Province.

We could talk about the fact that we actually cut a circuit court in

Bonavista for $600 savings, a $600 savings to cut the court in Bonavista; or we

could talk about the court in Springdale that was cut; or we could talk about

the court in Burgeo cut for $1,000. The coffee budget for one of your offices

could pay off what it cost to keep a court open in rural Newfoundland and

Labrador so people could have access to these services.

I am going to talk about some of those other positives that are out there.

Again, we could talk about the positives I do not know if it is a positive

when over 1,000 people lose their jobs in this Province. That is not a positive,

but it is a reality, and that reality needs to be brought up here.

We are going to get back to some of the other things that came out of this

Budget. I have a lot of stuff here. One of the things here I want to talk about,

again, I go back in justice. The other thing too, it is not only are we cutting

courts but we are cutting legal aid, cutting the guts out of it so people have

less access to legal aid. I think everybody in this room appreciates the fact

that we all have that right. Some people, lower-income people, people with

disadvantages, the vulnerable people, their access to this service cut.

I want to move on. Let's talk about health care. Do you know what? I will

never doubt about the significant investment that has been made in health care;

however, there are some drawbacks. I did not hear anything in the Budget talk

about the children in this Province who are suffering from cancer and need a

drug called ondansetron. It is actually recommended by pediatric oncologists.

They are not getting it.

We could talk about the other one, mutagen I think it is, that they need. It

is recommended. Again, I would say to the minister, I am going to stand and

speak. You will have all the opportunity in the world to stand and address and

correct me if I am wrong.

We could talk about the dental plan, the one where you can get dentures

one-half at a time. This year pick your choice, are you going to get the top

half or the bottom half? Next year you will get the other end. If I am wrong, I

think that was something that was said in the Estimates. We could talk about

that. Again, I asked the minister in Estimates and it was not contradicted.

Absolutely amazing!

We talk about the public programs and services and how they are planned and

delivered.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. A. PARSONS: I hear the Member for Terra Nova, the parliamentary

secretary. I suggest when you plan something, why don't you actually plan it? If

you put aside $6.7 million and it costs you $20-odd million, you are probably

playing. One of the things I would also suggest is you talk to the dentists who

are going to do the work, the ones that were not consulted. That is what I

suggest I would put out there.

If we want to talk about the investment, let's see, we are going to go back

to patting ourselves on the back. The Fraser Institute, again, they have been

applauded depending on some stuff they said because they have said good stuff

about this government. They have said good stuff, but another thing they said

is: 2013, overall Newfoundland and Labrador, worse bang for your buck in terms

of health care spending. We are spending the most per capita in Canada, yet

outcomes do not reflect this.

In 2008, a report was done by the Frontier Centre for Public Policy that

could serve as a score card for consumers. Let me see: It was the most glaring

case of throwing good money after bad in Canadian health care. I just want to

reference that.

I hear the minister chirping over there. I hear the minister chirping. She is

going to get a chance to stand up. Do you know what? I will sit there and I will

listen to what she has to say. I certainly listened to what the Minister of

Finance had to say. He makes a lot of good points. I do not always agree with

him, we all know that for sure, but I listened.

I say to the minister, again, we could also talk about the hospital in Corner

Brook, a great investment. Now, she actually spends her time putting out press

releases saying we do not want the hospital in Corner Brook the most

ridiculous thing you could ever say. What we want is the hospital that was

promised.

Now again, not just promised in 2012 and 2011 and 2007. Fool me once I am

going to leave that to the Member for Bay of Islands. He has no idea. He does

not represent the people on the West Coast. He does not know what is going on

and does not talk about acute care beds.

It was promised once. It was great. We are all for it. It was promised twice

never got it. Again, 2015, I cannot wait, a banner year for this Province,

because we are going to get the rightsized hospital with less acute care beds in

it, absolutely fantastic absolutely fantastic.

I will go off health care

MS SULLIVAN: A point of order, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services, on a point of order.

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I am happy to listen to anyone talk in this House of Assembly

and that is what we ought to be doing in here. When we stand to speak, we need

to make sure that what information we are putting out there is accurate.

AN HON. MEMBER: There is no point of order.

MS SULLIVAN: As far as I understand, Mr. Speaker, you get to make the

ruling after I have spoken.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

There is no point of order.

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Member for Burgeo La Poile, to continue.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Again, Minister, you are going to have all the opportunity in the world and

you are going to tell us all about the hospital that you are rightsizing for the

people of the West Coast, absolutely fantastic.

I see the Member for Springdale, he is directing me. He is not going to

direct to the courthouse that was cut in his district that is for sure.

I am going to continue on. Because do you know what? This Budget the one we

hear all about the thousands of jobs lost for people all over this Province,

rural, urban, does not matter where you are, one of the things I want to get to

and that is the Parliamentary Secretary for Advanced Education and Skills. He is

the Parliamentary Secretary for a department that we paid John Noseworthy

$150,000 to do a report.

AN HON. MEMBER: It was a great report.

MR. A. PARSONS: It was a great report, and I am going to educate the

Parliamentary Secretary for Twitter now in a second.

Here are some of the words that John Noseworthy uses in his report:

duplication, lack of integration, no priorities, no evaluation, no tracking

mechanism, more reactive than proactive, gaps in services, inconsistency, low

uptake, delays, program disincentives, and no strategic approach. That is just

one-third of the way in. Yes, it was a great report because it shows what a mess

of a department was created. It was created with no thought and no process

whatsoever. It was tossed together; it was cobbled together.

I was on the record on CBC as saying I like where we are going, I think it is

the right step, but I will reserve judgment until I see what the results are. I

can give my judgement now. It is a colossal failure according to the people who

they paid for the report. John Noseworthy was paid a good sum and came with a

very heavy report.

So we can talk about some of the other stuff in Advanced Education and

Skills. Again, I remind you, Mr. Speaker, just to go back for the people who are

watching out there, we create a department, then we pay the failed candidate

$150,000 to write the report after we put it together, then we get the report in

December but we do not read it until February, and then we send it back for more

information but we say we are not going to incorporate this in the Budget. Then

we get it back and release it on the day of the Budget, and there are clearly

some things that were taken out of the report. We have approached this report

and this department just like everything else: reactive rather than proactive.

Now, we can talk about the cuts to Adult Basic Education, something that is

affecting all of us here in this room because it is in all of our districts. I

am waiting for the RFP that comes out and says how we are going to do things. I

have been hearing a lot from people out there who are involved in the system,

people in CNA, actually the same people who were never consulted along the way,

which is another benchmark for this government. It is where we make decisions

and then we consult with the people after, whether it is the Justice department,

whether it is the Department of Health with the NLMA and the NL Dental

Association, or whether it is Advanced Education and Skills.

We talk to them after we have made the decision, and it is not the way to go

forward. It is not the way to deliver services to the people of this Province.

We should go and listen to them first.

I have talked to administrators out there, administrators who want to

contribute. They want to find efficiencies. They know that if there are issues,

they would love to work together, but they were not given the opportunity. The

scary thing is they are not allowed to say anything after. They are muzzled.

That is another interesting thing. This Budget Estimates process is

interesting because one of the things we also found out there was no money spent

for this year was any research into whistle-blower legislation. That was

something else that was promised in 2007 and 2011. Oh, we are going to do it. We

are going to get there. No money and it is not gong to happen. The reason is

they do not want it. They do not want to hear the people involved in the system

have any say.

We talk about this labour shortage. When you look at all the other cuts made

in this department, whether it is EAS and all these acronyms, there is JCP,

there is CNA, and ABE. There are all kinds of cuts there; it is amazing. This

was all done without the benefit of looking at the $150,000 report absolutely

amazing.

I am going to continue on here because there are so many things. Actually I

found a couple of more terms from the Noseworthy report talking about this

department and how we deliver: inefficient, ineffective, slip through the

cracks, duplicate payments, no formal case management process, and inequity. A

great department, a great report, it would have been nice if we got the report

before we formed the department. That would have been a step in the right

direction.

I am going to continue on because I have so many other things I want to talk

about, and I am missing a few things. There have been a lot of comments; one of

them was how we try to lessen the burden on people. The social conscience is not

limited to the people on this side; we are trying to lessen the burden on

people. That is why those people who were laid off out in CNA who are dealing

with ABE through this redundancy process, they are not actually getting the

redundancy package. There has been a grievance filed there. There was a member

across in the back there who said that yesterday and the e-mails I received on

that were absolutely amazing. They have all quoted him here; it is fantastic to

see.

AN HON. MEMBER: What did he say?

MR. A. PARSONS: He said, "We try to lessen the burden on people" and we

go through the process. "They are not easy to swallow, and nobody has more

sympathy to people who have been through it than I do." That is why these people

who have just found out their jobs are eliminated; they have no consultation, no

say in the process. That is why they are not being given redundancy packages.

Something that I believe was negotiated through their union and there is a

grievance filed now. We should probably not say these things without actually

knowing what we are talking about.

I am going to continue on here because we are talking about, let me see

ensure that public programs and services are designed and delivered in ways that

are focused and effective. I have asked numerous times about how we are going to

deliver ABE. They do not know. We do not know; the RFP is not out. The private

colleges are saying we need some time here. We do not know. There is

duplication.

We talk about EAS, Employment Assistance Services. A great way to put people

in the labour market is to take away the people who help people get into the

labour market. They were cut and they are all on the way out now. We could see

that coming because last year they were brought to the edge, the brink of

getting their pink slip and they were given a six-month reprieve. They are all

gone now.

It was brought up here, we are creating jobs. How can you say that with a

straight face at the same time you just gave pink slips to thousands of people

in this Province? When we have conservation officers cut, we have teachers who

are going to be walking out, resource people, how can we talk about creating

jobs? It just blows my mind.

AN HON. MEMBER: Poacher's paradise.

MR. A. PARSONS: Yes, poacher's paradise. That is just the conservation

side now, where we have an officer in Stephenville who is expected to cover off

the entire Southwest Coast all by himself now. We are putting him in a great

position.

These are people for whom we ordered uniforms in the Department of Justice,

got the uniforms, and then we cut the people. So we have all these uniforms that

are actually sitting in boxes. Where is the planning in there? Where is the

delivery there?

Mr. Speaker, my time is running short here and there so much I would like to

get at. One of the things goes back to the health care too, these knee-jerk

reactions. The knee-jerk reaction was something we saw in Justice. I have to

come back and end off on that note because there was a lot of time put into

these core mandate reviews and Budget analysis. We made a decision and under

public pressure caved. We put together a super committee, gone. We reversed it.

How can I trust in that planning if those are the results that are going to come

out of it?

Mr. Speaker, I say in closing here, I am pretty sure my sentiment on this

motion is evident to the people out there, and I certainly will not be

supporting it.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for Bonavista North.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CROSS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to express my thanks to the Member for St. John's West for

bringing this motion forward. The resolution refers to a design and a delivery

of programs

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