Ontario Hansard — 4 March 2013 (40th Parliament, 2nd Session)
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March 4, 2013
40th Parliament, 2nd Session
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LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO
ASSEMBLÉE LÉGISLATIVE DE L’ONTARIO
Monday 4 March 2013 Lundi 4 mars 2013
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
ORAL QUESTIONS
ONTARIO PUBLIC SERVICE
ONTARIO PUBLIC SERVICE
HOME CARE
HEALTH CARE FUNDING
POWER PLANTS
AIR AMBULANCE SERVICE
CHILD POVERTY
POWER PLANTS
TUITION
AIR-RAIL LINK
SCHOOL EXTRACURRICULAR
ACTIVITIES
LONG-TERM CARE
NORTHERN ECONOMY
MANUFACTURING JOBS
PROPERTY TAXATION
CHILDHOOD OBESITY
CORRECTION OF RECORD
USE OF QUESTION PERIOD
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS
DRIVE CLEAN
MINING INDUSTRY
FLORENCE AND WILLEM SCHURMAN
LEGISLATIVE INTERNS
PEEL MEMORIAL HOSPITAL
ORGAN DONATION
DON MCVITTIE
QUEEN ELIZABETH II DIAMOND JUBILEE MEDAL
NUTRITION MONTH
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
TERRA PAVING INC. ACT, 2013
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CONSULTING
INC. ACT, 2013
ASPEN DRYWALL INC. ACT, 2013
STATEMENTS BY THE MINISTRY
AND RESPONSES
SOCIAL WORKERS
PETITIONS
HOSPITAL PARKING FEES
AIR QUALITY
OFFICE OF THE OMBUDSMAN
FAMILY SAFETY
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TRADES
REPLACEMENT WORKERS
LYME DISEASE
GREENWATER PARK
WIND TURBINES
WIND TURBINES
ELECTRICITY GENERATION
LANDFILL
ORDERS OF THE DAY
NON-PROFIT HOUSING
CO-OPERATIVES STATUTE LAW AMENDMENT ACT, 2013 /
LOI DE 2013 MODIFIANT DES LOIS
EN CE QUI CONCERNE
LES COOPÉRATIVES DE LOGEMENT
SANS BUT LUCRATIF
PRIVATE MEMBERS’ PUBLIC BUSINESS
COMMITTEE SITTINGS
NON-PROFIT HOUSING
CO-OPERATIVES STATUTE LAW AMENDMENT ACT, 2013 /
LOI DE 2013 MODIFIANT DES LOIS
EN CE QUI CONCERNE
LES COOPÉRATIVES DE LOGEMENT
SANS BUT LUCRATIF
The House met at 1030.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Good morning. Please join me in prayer.
Prayers.
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
Ms. Helena Jaczek: I’d like to introduce, in the east members’ gallery, the family of my page, Rhea Basu: father Anin, mother Sonia and sister Ayesha. Welcome to Queen’s Park.
Mr. Victor Fedeli: I’d like to introduce, in the gallery, my executive assistant from North Bay, Mr. Craig Dellandrea.
Mr. Gilles Bisson: I’d like to introduce, in the members’ west gallery—actually the public galleries out to the west—Mark McKinnon from the Ontario Professional Fire Fighters Association.
Hon. Ted McMeekin: We have a page from my riding, Jaden Dilda, and joining us today, as I understand, are his mother, Kelly; his father, Richard; two sets of grandparents—grandmother Lena, grandfather George, grandmother Dianne Hersey and grandfather Doug Hersey—and aunt Rochelle Barber. I would like to welcome them to the House.
Mr. Kim Craitor: I’m really pleased to introduce the parents and sisters of Lauren George, who is a page here from Niagara Falls from Prince Philip school. I know they’re not in the members’ gallery, but I know they’re here because I had my photo taken with them. I’m going to introduce them. They are: Jennifer George, the mother; the father is E.J. George; and sisters Erica George and Vanessa George—a wonderful family from my riding of Niagara Falls.
Mr. Joe Dickson: I’d like to welcome to the Legislature today Ajax page Jessica Kostuch’s mother, Wendy Kostuch, and close family friend Wendy Kelly. They are sitting in the gallery this morning. I’m sure that Jessica is honoured to have you both here this morning to show your support. I welcome you to Queen’s Park.
Mr. Tim Hudak: I want to join my colleague from Niagara Falls in welcoming long-time friends, actually, who had lived in Fort Erie—E.J. and Jennifer George and their daughters Erica and Vanessa—here today because Lauren George is a page captain. I go a long time back with—well, Jennifer is obviously younger, so not that long ago, but her husband, E.J., who joins us—we went to elementary school, high school and then Western King’s together. We spent some time carousing, if that’s parliamentary, Speaker. But I do want to say, if he says anything about my past, Speaker, don’t believe a single word of it.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I’m set up with so many lines, I’m just going to pass.
Mr. Mike Colle: I’d like to welcome the staff and students of Marshall McLuhan high school in my riding on Avenue Road, named after the great Canadian Marshall McLuhan, who is probably the father of modern media and modern communication. Marshall McLuhan high school—thank you.
ORAL QUESTIONS
ONTARIO PUBLIC SERVICE
Mr. Tim Hudak: My question is to the Premier. Premier, two weeks ago I asked you this question; I’m going to give you another chance to answer it. Can you name for us one Dalton McGuinty program that you’re going to reverse or postpone to balance the budget?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I’m assuming this is a question about fiscal responsibility. I have said very clearly in this House that we are on track to balance the budget. We have a plan to, by 2017-18, reduce the deficit, to eliminate the deficit. As I say, we are overachieving on those targets. We have put wage constraint in place, there have been reductions across government and we are constraining growth, which is exactly what the Drummond report asked us to do. Restraining growth is what needed to happen. Wage constraint is what we’ve put in place, and that is why we’re on track to reduce the deficit by 2017-18.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Tim Hudak: Well, 600,000 unemployed and the biggest deficit in Canada is not my definition of overachieving.
Premier, as you know, a monumental bill passed on Thursday evening—Bill 5, standing in the name of my colleague from Thornhill, to freeze wages. I want to ask you, Premier: Given that that bill has passed second reading—it’s something we believe in in order to get the deficit under control, balance the books and to make pay just as the 85% of people who are not on the government payroll who had their wages frozen.
Premier, please assure me that you actually are going to continue a wage freeze policy for our public service, or at least support the outstanding bill by Mr. Shurman.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I’ve been clear; our objectives are the same. We know that we need to continue to constrain those costs. In fact, we have said—and I have said here today—that we are on track to eliminate the deficit by 2017-18. We are restricting overall spending increases.
We’re looking, though, beyond those measures to support small business, to make sure that they have the capacity to continue to grow the economy and to increase jobs. We’re going to continue to work to ensure that small businesses have access to capital. We’ve got a plan to continue to constrain those costs, to continue to constrain growth and spending, and to help the economy to grow and put those conditions in place.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Final supplementary.
Mr. Tim Hudak: I think, respectfully, Premier, we do not share the same objectives. We want to reduce spending; you want to increase it. We want to fire up our economy and create jobs; you want to stall it. We want to restore the balance between union bosses and the hard-working taxpayers who pay the bills; you want to give more and more power to Pat Dillon and the Working Families Coalition.
Before the House was prorogued—September 26, 2012, to be exact—the previous finance minister, Dwight Duncan, announced a number of initiatives in the Protecting Public Services Act that included a wage freeze, a wage freeze for non-union workers, and an elimination of the booking of sick days in the province of Ontario to help balance the budget. Which of those—the wage freeze, the wage freeze for non-union personnel, and the elimination of booked sick days—do you support in an initiative to balance our budget in the province of Ontario?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Minister of Finance.
Hon. Charles Sousa: Every effort is being taken to reduce our spending curve; right? We have to take every effort to try to make us more competitive. We recognize that in order for us to balance our budget by 2017, we’ve got to take these steps, and we’ve taken some very concerted steps. But it’s interesting to note that what we want are results. We talk about the wage freeze. In effect, that’s what we’ve been doing. Even arbitrated deals have been coming in at zero-zero, and we will continue to do just that.
What we do not want to do is put at risk the very issues that we’re trying to achieve, which is maintaining stability in the system, reducing our wages so that we can be competitive and balance our books.
But it’s interesting to note that the Leader of the Opposition himself also has some issues with deficits. He himself is running the highest deficit of any party, and his own party voted last week to limit his runaway spending. Speaker, how is it that we can trust that initiative? We’re taking the steps necessary, and we will continue to do so.
ONTARIO PUBLIC SERVICE
Mr. Peter Shurman: My question is also to the Premier. On Thursday afternoon, when you and your cabinet were away pretending to care about Ontario’s north, you embarrassingly lost a vote on my wage freeze legislation. Either you have an incompetent whip or that caucus is sadly divided.
Anyway, this is legislation that you and your union friends have opposed for months, indeed, not to say years. We are sure that your friends at the Working Families Coalition were none too impressed. After a long, dark decade of putting union bosses ahead of the interests of Ontario taxpayers, can you tell us today just what Patrick Dillon was doing in your office on Wednesday, February 27?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Let me just say, Mr. Speaker, that I am very proud of the fact that I talk to a range of people. My caucus talks to a range of people. And, to that point, our cabinet was in Sault Ste. Marie on Friday, meeting with hundreds of people from the community: members of the chamber of commerce, people who were talking to us about youth employment and the ways to support businesses in the north. I think that is a very important aspect of the work of government.
It is really disappointing that the member opposite doesn’t think that government connecting with people on the ground, hearing their ideas and incorporating their ideas into policy, is the way that government should work. We believe it is, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Peter Shurman: Well, I’m sorry, Speaker; that’s not good enough, Premier. With kids locked out of extracurricular activities, public sector wages 15% to 30% above equivalent jobs in the private sector and Ontario hurtling towards a $30-billion deficit, Ontarians deserve to know just what Pat Dillon was asking of you and of Ontario taxpayers. Did Patrick Dillon meet with you? What did he demand? If not, who in your office, Premier, did meet with him and just what did you and your office promise him?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Mr. Speaker, as I said, there are hundreds of meetings that happen very day between members of this government and people in various communities. What’s really important to me is that we understand that some of the allegations in that little rant that the member opposite just did are just not true.
So, in terms of our trajectory and the deficit reduction, we are overachieving on those targets. We are on track to eliminate the deficit by 2017-18. We’ve been very clear that constraining public sector wages is part of what we are doing and will continue to do. That’s why we’re on target. The Drummond report said that if we didn’t take those measures, if we didn’t work to constrain costs, then we would not be able to balance the budget. But we are, and we’re on target to eliminate the deficit by 2017-18.
Interjection.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Yes, we are.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Final supplementary.
Mr. Peter Shurman: Premier, you know full well that Pat Dillon controls a syndicate of unions with a front called the Working Families Coalition. That syndicate secretly spends millions of dollars to make sure the Ontario Liberal Party just keeps getting elected so that you will keep paying more and more and more. Union bosses across Ontario like the power that the McGuinty-Wynne Liberals have given them, and we find it passing strange that one of the first meetings you hold in your office is with Patrick Dillon, no less.
Premier, just how much did you and/or your staff sell Ontario out for this time?
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I have two comments to make. The first one is the one I keep repeating, and that is, when somebody is asking a question and someone from the same side starts to interject while they’re asking the question, it’s very difficult to respond to somebody who’s making noise on the other side. And when somebody is giving an answer and someone is interjecting, it’s hard for me to respond to somebody making noise on the other side. I’m going to ask you to control that. At least let the question be put and at least let the answer be put.
The second thing: We’re getting dangerously close to making an allegation, and I’m going to allow it, except to warn you: If it comes closer, I will call you to order.
Premier?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Actually, one of the first meetings I took—I don’t know where the member opposite got the idea that this was one of the first meetings one of my staff members took—was with the Leader of the Opposition. That’s one of the very first meetings I took.
Mr. Speaker, as I said, I meet with dozens of people in a week. We meet with hundreds of people over the period of a week. I’m quite sure a member of my staff met with Pat Dillon. As you know, he’s a member of the College of Trades Appointments Council.
The point is that we, on this side of the House, really believe it’s very important that we meet with people from all walks of life with experience from all backgrounds so that we can understand what is happening. That’s why we travelled to Sault Ste. Marie, it’s why we met with the chamber of commerce in Sault Ste. Marie, it’s why my cabinet ministers met with their stakeholders in schools, colleges and universities: to make sure we understand the issues on the ground so that that can inform our policy development.
HOME CARE
Ms. Andrea Horwath: My question is for the Premier, and it’s a pretty simple one. Will the Premier commit to a five-day home care guarantee for families who are stuck waiting in some communities for as long as 262 days on a wait-list, so they can get some care for loved ones they have who are needing it?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: As the leader of the third party knows, this is an issue that is of great concern to us. It’s something we acknowledged in the throne speech that needs to be addressed, Mr. Speaker. We have done an enormous amount—I know the Minister of Health will want to speak to this issue—to transform the health care system to make sure that people are getting the health care they need in the right place and in a timely way.
But we also know there is more to do, and we know there are investments in home care and changes within the system that need to be made. I’m looking forward to working with both parties on this, because I think it’s an issue that really transcends party lines. All of us know there are people in our constituencies who need care. We need to make sure they get it—at home if that’s where it is best for them.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Andrea Horwath: Speaker, home care lets Ontarians live with comfort, live with independence, live with dignity. But there are more than 6,100 people currently waiting to get home care in this province. When it comes to health care dollars, this government prefers to invest in sky-high CEO salaries which, despite promises, have still not been capped.
Will the Premier agree that there’s something unfair about asking seniors to wait for home care if we’re not asking CEOs to wait for their salary increases?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: To the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Improving access to home care is an area where we have such clear common ground with the third party. We are absolutely committed to providing more people with access to more care. We demonstrated that in our last budget. We committed to more money in the home care sector, and we are seeing the benefits of that now. People are waiting a little bit less for home care now. As we move forward, Speaker, as we continue with the transformation of our health care system, we will see more care in the home and more care in the community.
In order to achieve that, we do have to make some difficult decisions in other parts of our health care system, but that is exactly the right choice to make.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Final supplementary.
Ms. Andrea Horwath: The government says we have to choose between home care and hospitals. But the people remember this very government’s promise not to make health care cuts.
Will the Premier tell Ontarians why she thinks seniors should be waiting for home care and services should be cut in hospitals while salaries for those at the very top can continue to rise? New Democrats don’t think that’s the priority.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: I think it’s really important that we acknowledge that there is, in fact, no wait time for home care for people who are being discharged from hospitals with an urgent need for that home care—there is no wait time for that.
Speaker, we are increasing funding in our health care sector. As a government, we’ve put a priority on health care. We are not cutting health care spending; I can’t be any more clear than that. We are, however, shifting spending. That is part of the transformation of our health care system that needs to take place and that has the support of a broad cross-section of people in the health care sector, including people who advocate for more home care.
Speaker, we’re on the right path. We’re moving forward. More people will need home care. More people will get home care. We want people to get the care they need in an acute care hospital if that’s what they need, but if they’re ready to go home, let’s be there with the right supports for them.
HEALTH CARE FUNDING
Ms. Andrea Horwath: My next question is to the Premier. Susan from Oshawa wrote to us out of frustration because of the lack of balance in the way the Liberal government has funded health care in this province: “These upper level costs”—meaning executive salaries—“need to be radically contained and service at the front line needs [to be] beefed [up].”
Will the Premier agree that we need a balanced approach that caps hospital CEO salaries and finds efficiencies in LHINs and CCACs so that we can strengthen home care and health care in this province?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I think that the approach to all of these policy areas has to be balanced. We have to make sure that we have the best people in those positions of responsibility, but we also have to make sure that the money that we invest in the system provides the service that people need. That’s exactly what we’ve been doing. We’ve been looking at the increasing costs in health care and, as the Minister of Health has said, health care costs are not going down; they’re going up.
But what we have to be clear about is that people get the service that they need, and whether they need it in a hospital or from a community service or at home, making sure that that delivery mechanism is exactly what it should be.
I agree that there has to be balance in terms of the administrative costs, and the sharing of best practices among CCACs, among local health integration networks, is a very important part of that transformation.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Andrea Horwath: Linda from Hamilton, my hometown, noted that the CEO of Hamilton Health Sciences sees his salary go up every year. It’s now over $700,000 a year, plus a car allowance, but as Linda notes, “They close beds in the interest of saving money.”
Will the Premier tell Ontarians why her government is making cuts in hospitals while CEOs in the hospitals continue to have their salaries rise year over year?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: To the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: I think the member opposite and others will be interested in a couple of quotes so they know that I’m not the only one supporting our action plan.
Here’s a quote: “We’re very pleased to see that the [health] minister’s action plan that she announced in January has been carried into the budget. We think that this focused approach to investing in community care is the right initiative to relieving the alternative level of care pressure in Ontario.”
Hon. Madeleine Meilleur: Who said that?
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Steve Harvey from the Alzheimer Society of Ontario.
Speaker, “A local physician”—in Belleville—“has come to the defence of a Quinte Health Care’s proposed ‘community care’ strategy—a plan he deems the cheapest and best overall option for improved patient care.
“‘Care delivered in the community is more effective at prevention and treating chronic diseases,’ said Jonathan Kerr, primary care lead for South East Local Health Integration Network.”
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Final supplementary.
Ms. Andrea Horwath: The Premier and the government have talked a lot about change. A five-day home care guarantee is a positive change that we can afford in this province. Ontarians are frustrated that the government would rather cut beds or let over 6,000 families wait for home care than take a balanced approach to delivering health care.
Does the Premier agree that it’s time for real change and a balanced approach so that we can make sure that Ontarians have access to the health care that they need?
Hon. Deborah Matthews: We could not agree more with the leader of the third party that we need to continue to invest more in home care. That is our highest priority right now and it is backed up by real dollars. We are talking about 90,000 more seniors getting access to the care that they need.
Let me just read another quote: “I’m very happy with the budget as a home care provider. This is an opportunity to serve more Ontarians. This is certainly what we’ve been looking for and I think it’s really important; home care is where people want to be, people want to be at home.” That’s from Susan VanderBent, the executive director of the Ontario Home Care Association.
There is overwhelming support for the transformation of our health care system. As we care for more people in the home, we are going to be able to free up those hospital beds for people who need acute care in the hospital.
POWER PLANTS
Mr. Victor Fedeli: Good morning, Speaker. My question is for the Premier.
We’re seeing a frightening pattern emerge over this gas plant scandal: We hear the Premier say one thing but actually do the opposite. She promised a select committee to “get to the bottom” of the gas plant scandal, but after that media event she took the offer off the table. Last Thursday, she held another media event and pledged to reveal “party documents,” but at that very same moment her MPPs were filing the actual motion at committee, which did not include the words “party documents.” Again, we’re hearing one thing, but the opposite happens.
Premier, when are you going to come clean about your role in the gas plant scandal?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Well, I really hope that the opposition members are going to support the expansion of the mandate of the justice committee so that that committee can ask for all the documentation that, apparently, the members opposite have wanted to have access to. It is a very straightforward initiative that we have put forward. We want the opposition—we want the committee—to be able to ask for the full range of documentation, including if they want to ask for documents from the Liberal Party or from the Conservative Party or from the NDP. They can ask for that documentation, but not unless they support the motion to expand the committee mandate.
So I would ask the member opposite, is his party going to support the motion to expand the mandate of the committee?
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. Supplementary?
Mr. Victor Fedeli: Premier, while you were in the media conference telling reporters one thing, your MPPs were in the justice committee saying something completely different. In fact, both your news conference and the committee motion were nothing more than charades. We don’t need your party’s fourth promise to provide documents; all that did was acknowledge that there indeed are more documents that you are holding. Your own House leader told the contempt committee it “can request whatever documents it wants from the Liberal Party or the government.”
Premier, we don’t need your permission; we need your compliance. Will you turn over the Liberal Party documents today?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Government House leader.
Hon. John Milloy: Mr. Speaker, it’s time to review—
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member for Lanark, come to order, please. The member for Leeds–Grenville, come to order.
House leader.
Hon. John Milloy: Let’s review the Conservatives’ record on this. First they opposed the gas plants during the election. “Done, done, done,” we’re told by the Leader of the Opposition. Then they come out and say that a judicial inquiry is too expensive—except for the member from Nipissing, who holds a press conference to say he wants a judicial inquiry. They reject our offer of an all-party committee, instead to go after a private citizen—a former member of the Legislature. Then they announce they’re going to vote against a budget that hasn’t even been written yet.
Finally, on Thursday, when the Premier makes an offer to broaden the justice committee so that it can look into all aspects of the gas plant situation, they say, “We’ll get back to you. We need the weekend to think about it.”
When are they going to give us an answer as to whether they’re going to support the broadening of the—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. New question.
AIR AMBULANCE SERVICE
M me France Gélinas: Ma question est pour la première ministre.
Ontario’s Ombudsman has warned that without his oversight, Ornge will continue to have no credible accountability. The Premier likes to use the right words—she talks about accountability; she talks about transparency—yet she denies this small, cost-free measure. Her reassurances right now look more like empty promises.
Can the Premier give me a valid reason as to why she is blocking Ombudsman oversight? I’m a reasonable person. Explain to me why you are saying no to Ombudsman oversight of Ornge.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Health reintroduced legislation that would put in place a much stricter regime of monitoring over the air ambulance organization. In fact, it incorporates items that the member brought forward, to make sure that there was the kind of constraint in place that needed to be there.
I’m hoping that the third party will support us in getting that legislation to committee so it can be discussed, because we want that oversight in place. We recognize that there needed to be a better regime of monitoring in place. That’s why we introduced the legislation, and that’s why we listened to the opposition when they brought forward their components, and we incorporated those into the legislation.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
M me France Gélinas: I don’t understand. How can you say you want oversight, but yet say you don’t want the Ombudsman? Something is not adding up. The promise of a new era at Ornge has to be followed up by concrete action, yet today we seem to be playing games again. Ontarians deserve oversight. They deserve accountability. They deserve to know that Ornge is on the right path.
Why won’t you do the right thing? Why won’t you restore public confidence in the troubled air ambulance service and give the Ombudsman oversight of Ornge? It looks like you’re afraid that he’s going to find something else at Ornge if you let him in there.
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: To the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: I’m very pleased that very early in this new Legislature, we reintroduced Bill 11, that enhances oversight at Ornge. I think all of us know that this is legislation that needs to be passed.
I am grateful that my critic, the member of the third party, is supporting the transformation at Ornge. I would very much like to hear more from her about this idea. We did listen last time when she advocated that we bring Ornge in under freedom of information, and we are committed to doing that, Speaker.
Let’s get this bill passed. Let’s get it into committee. Let’s have that conversation where it belongs: in committee.
CHILD POVERTY
Mr. Bas Balkissoon: My question is for the Minister of Children and Youth Services. I’m pleased with our government’s commitment to reduce poverty in Ontario and the progress we’ve made together, but we must continue to do more, especially during tough economic times. We must ensure that the most vulnerable, like low-income families and children, are protected and supported.
I understand that a report was released last week which looked at poverty in the province, with a specific focus on children and youth. Mr. Speaker, through you to the minister: What is our government doing to ensure that we protect our most vulnerable in our community?
Hon. Teresa Piruzza: I’d like to thank the member from Scarborough–Rouge River for his question and for his concern with respect to poverty reduction and for the children of our province.
Yes, Campaign 2000 did release their report last week, and I’d like to thank Campaign 2000 for their report as well as acknowledging our Poverty Reduction Strategy and the steps that we have taken over the years. It’s the first type of strategy of its kind in the province.
Mr. Speaker, our government has made significant progress in the fight against poverty through our government’s Poverty Reduction Strategy. We have introduced the Ontario Child Benefit, as we know. Through many of our programs, we have been able to lift over 40,000 children out of poverty. That was in the midst of a global economic uncertainty and challenge in our province.
Speaker, we certainly acknowledge that there’s more work to do, and we look forward to working with all our partners to continue our progress.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Bas Balkissoon: I would like to thank the minister for that response. I’m pleased that we remain committed to reducing poverty. I’m glad that our government is committed to the Poverty Reduction Strategy, and we have seen some important results from it. There’s a lot to be done when it comes to poverty and giving children and youth the best opportunity to reach their full potential.
My question: What are some of the initiatives of the Poverty Reduction Strategy, and how do they assist Ontario children and youth?
Hon. Teresa Piruzza: Again, thank you for the follow-up question. Our most recent 2012 report, which was released in the fall, contains many encouraging signs of progress—
Interjection.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Hamilton East–Stoney Creek, please come to order.
Hon. Teresa Piruzza: —in services that we have provided.
Over 950,000 children in 510,000 families are being helped by the OCB, or the Ontario Child Benefit. Almost 122,000 kids are getting a stronger start in about 1,700 schools through full-day kindergarten. Nearly 33,000 children and young people, who may have otherwise gone untreated, are receiving free dental care through Healthy Smiles Ontario.
Speaker, as I indicated earlier, we know that there’s more work to do in the fight against poverty, and together with our partners, we’ll continue to find lasting solutions to break the cycle of poverty.
POWER PLANTS
Mr. Todd Smith: My question this morning is to the Premier. Premier, last week you admitted that the decision to cancel the gas plants in Mississauga and Oakville was a political decision, but you’ve yet to say whose political decision it was.
An
article from September 2011 highlights you, the finance minister, the Deputy Premier, the labour minister and the Minister of Natural Resources as senior players in the last Liberal election campaign. Most of your senior cabinet members could be under the spotlight in this Liberal scandal. Did one of them actually make the call to cancel the power plants or was it, as we’ve suspected all along, unelected Liberal Party officials who were desperate to save a couple of Liberal seats in the GTA?
Premier, will you stand in this House today and tell us whose idea it was to cancel those power plants?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: To the government House leader.
Hon. John Milloy: The question of—
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member from Lanark will withdraw, and there’s a reason for that. I think he understands why.
Mr. Randy Hillier: I withdraw.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you.
Hon. John Milloy: Mr. Speaker, the question of the documents that were produced related to the gas plants is before a committee of this Legislature, and hopefully—and I look forward to the member answering in his supplementary—with the support of the Progressive Conservative Party, we’re going to broaden that committee’s mandate so they can look into all aspects of it. I know one of the things they will want to look at is the role of the Leader of the Opposition in terms of his call for the cancellation of it.
Mr. Speaker, last week I had a chance to talk about Twitter. I had a chance to talk about YouTube. In the supplementary, I look forward to telling everyone about an appearance the Leader of the Opposition had on that fine show, The Agenda.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Todd Smith: Speaker, there have been strings attached all the way along. We wanted these documents back in May of last year. This Premier has had almost five months since this scandal ended up on the floor of the House to ask who is responsible for this campaign decision. Are you asking us to believe that you have not asked even one of your cabinet ministers or senior Liberal Party officials about it in that time? If you have asked those questions and you still don’t have the answers, then it’s clear that the vote you lost last Thursday afternoon here in this House isn’t the first sign of a lack of confidence your caucus has shown for you.
Premier, you’ve had five months to find out who is responsible for making that decision. If you still don’t know who made the decision, what makes you think that you’re responsible enough to sit in that chair?
Hon. John Milloy: I listened intently to the honourable member’s question and nowhere in there did I find out if their party will be supporting the broadening of the committee’s mandate. Mr. Speaker, no strings attached on this side. I will stand in this House at the end of question period, if he likes, and we can pass that unanimous consent motion.
But, Mr. Speaker, I promised: The Agenda, Leader of the Opposition—
Interjections.
Hon. John Milloy: Please—February 28, 2013, the host, Steve Paikin, about the Mississauga gas plant: “...but you would have cancelled it as well.” The Leader of the Opposition: “Well, let’s be clear.... I never would have built those plants. I objected to that from the beginning. With respect to Mississauga, I mean, you’re right.... I said, given those circumstances, then we wouldn’t build the plant.” Or, as he put it to our friend from the Toronto Star, it would have been done, done, done.
So the real question is, will the Progressive Conservative Party talk about its decision-making? Will they table—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. New question.
TUITION
Ms. Teresa J. Armstrong: My question is to the Minister of Training, Colleges and Universities. Over the last seven years, the Liberal government has hit Ontario college and university students with up to a 70% increase in tuition. It is becoming more and more difficult for families to send their children to college and university.
Does the minister think another tuition hike at more than twice the rate of inflation is acceptable?
Hon. Brad Duguid: I thank the member for what is a very good and important question. The member will know we’re in the process now of working with students and post-secondary stakeholders towards a new tuition framework. I certainly will welcome the views of the party opposite and the member as we try to strike that balance between affordability and quality. It is an important balance, and I know the member opposite knows that.
Look, we’re in tough fiscal times, but despite that, our 30% tuition grant is assisting more than 200,000 low- and middle-income students across this province. This was ambitious, Mr. Speaker, but we’ve done it, and we’ve done it within our fiscal targets.
I’m looking forward to working with the member opposite, I’m looking forward to working with students and I’m looking forward to working with our post-secondary partners to strike the right balance.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Teresa J. Armstrong: Back to the minister: Ontario students were hit with a tuition increase of up to 70% by this government, and the minister knows that the government’s failed tuition rebate is helping fewer than one in three students.
With an average undergrad tuition of over $7,100—the highest and the fastest tuition growing in Canada—why is the minister allowing yet another tuition hike of up to 5%?
Hon. Brad Duguid: That’s a decision that’s yet to be made, and it’s going to be a decision for which I certainly will welcome the views of the member opposite and her party, as I will the views of students and parents across the province.
It is a balance, and I think the member appreciates that. It’s a balance between affordability and quality. We’ll make sure and we’ll try to work as best we can with the member opposite to strike the right balance.
But I will also ask the member opposite to be realistic. The NDP are quoted as saying they want to extend the 30% off tuition to all students. That would take dollars that are going to low- and middle-income students and transfer them to the richer students. I’m not sure we want to go there. They’re also calling for an outright freeze in tuition, something that would be nice to do, but I ask where the money would come from. Thirdly, they’re suggesting that we waive student debt. That’s billions and billions and billions of dollars that I don’t think we have right now to do that. We’d love to do it—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. New question.
AIR-RAIL LINK
Mrs. Laura Albanese: My question is for the Minister of Infrastructure and Transportation. Construction is currently under way on the UP Express that will connect Pearson International Airport to Union Station. This project is a critical project for the people in the riding of York South–Weston and for the communities that live along the line. This project will provide much-needed potential revitalization in this part of Toronto.
As you are aware, I have strongly advocated to the province, together with my community, the importance of a clean, efficient and electrified UP Express. Metrolinx has indicated that the earliest we could expect the line to be electrified would be 2017.
Through you, Mr. Speaker, can the minister discuss this date and provide an update on the status of the project?
Hon. Glen R. Murray: This government is very, very committed to electrification and sees this as a priority. We have made a very strong commitment here to Canada’s two busiest transportation hubs, Union Station and Pearson International Airport. This will provide high-quality travel between the two.
The member is quite right: The earliest date that we can achieve electrification would be 2017. I’m very committed to working with her to realize that time frame. As we develop the infrastructure and the investment strategy with Metrolinx, we will be trying to fully realize these projects right on time.
In the meantime, we are moving ahead with tier 4 diesel trains to be up express ready in time. I want to explain one thing very quickly: These are 75% cleaner than the standard GO diesels we run today.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mrs. Laura Albanese: Thank you to the minister for clarifying the earliest date to electrify the line. As I mentioned earlier, this is of great importance to my constituents in York South–Weston and to all the communities that live along the corridor. It’s also great news to learn more about the progress of the project.
The minister also touched upon the environmental assessment for electrification being well under way. Many of my constituents would like to learn more about that process. Mr. Speaker, through you, could the minister tell this House what the study includes and when we can expect the EA to be concluded?
Hon. Glen R. Murray: The member is quite right: The environmental assessment is under way right now. We are moving forward with it as quickly as the rules allow. We are also working right now to build the capacity on the Georgetown line that will allow electrification; this isn’t like you can turn a light switch on and off. This government is very committed to running higher quality, cleaner vehicles across our rail and GO system and to building the capacity needed for electrification. We’ve also got both convertible vehicles that will be changed—those engines will be changed to electrical—and the line is being built to the capacity and the standards and specs for electrification.
I live half a block from the CN/CP/GO main line and the Gardiner freeway. That goes through many of the constituencies here. We also have to look at the Lakeshore line and improve environmental standards. This government has closed coal plants. I remember when I came back to Ontario 10 years ago, we had over 50 smog days that summer in Toronto. Those days are behind us because of these kinds of measures.
SCHOOL EXTRACURRICULAR
ACTIVITIES
Ms. Lisa MacLeod: My question is to the Premier. Last week, Premier, you declared victory on extracurricular activities. At the time, I warned you not to pop the champagne or pat yourself on the back. Your caucus went into an absolute frenzy on the floor of this chamber when you were excited to get your extracurriculars back. Yet I warned you that not all high school teachers agreed to resume coaching and leading our school activities. Then, on Thursday, the announcement came, just as I told you, that ETFO was going to refuse to restore extracurricular activities.
Just like in 2009, when you personally, as education minister, removed extra extracurricular activities from the role of the teacher, you have again taken the side of a union. You are letting them run the education system; you refuse to support a reasonable or sensible or workable solution to get extracurricular activities back in our schools.
Premier, what is plan B? Since your Harvard-trained mediation skills have failed us, and you have refused to adopt the Ontario PC plan, how do you say you’re going to restore extracurricular activities this—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you.
Premier?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: To the Minister of Education.
Now, obviously, we are disappointed that the elementary teachers’ federation made a different decision. Certainly, we look forward to continuing to talk with them. What I do find encouraging is that, as you look around the province, we find that teachers really do want to re-engage with their students and come back to making schools a great place to learn.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary.
Ms. Lisa MacLeod: Speaker, extracurricular activities are not fully restored in our high schools, and they are not anywhere to be seen in our elementary schools. Parents are taxpayers; they expect you to do your job. Unfortunately, you had a stunning role reversal since the time you were the public trustee for the province, until you became a minister, when you actually supported the Ontario PC plan.
But I go back to your Premier. She is partly responsible for kids losing their extracurricular activities. First, she removed the extracurricular activities from the role of a teacher when she was education minister. Then she failed to have the unions restore those extracurricular activities. Finally, when given the opportunity this time last week to support an Ontario Progressive Conservative motion to get those back in our classrooms, she stood up and she voted against them. Stubborn, naive or in the pocket of the unions—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Question?
Ms. Lisa MacLeod: —one thing: She is not letting our kids do what they need to be doing in their schools. They’re losing out.
Will the Premier do the right thing? She can leave here today and she can adopt the Ontario PC motion and get those extracurriculars back in our schools.
Interjections.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Be seated, please. Be seated, please. Thank you.
Minister of Education?
Hon. Liz Sandals: Actually, if I supported the Ontario PC plan, I wouldn’t be a Liberal MPP today, if you really want to get your facts straight. That’s in part because of the contrast in the way we feel about our teachers.
We recognize that our teachers are our front-line professionals and we want to work with them. We recognize that teachers are the people who actually want to get back to extracurriculars, who want to do those positive things that make our schools a great place to learn. We know we have relationships to repair and we know the teachers understand that, and that the teachers also want to do some repairing of the relationship with the parents and the students.
They may have a sort of in-your-face way of approaching things; we want to work collaboratively with everyone, including school boards, principals and—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you. New question?
LONG-TERM CARE
Ms. Andrea Horwath: My question is to the Premier. On Friday I was called to London by a distraught Ontarian whose 93-year-old parents have been separated by the long-term-care system after 67 years of marriage. More than anything, Mrs. Simone Price wants to live out her golden years with her husband, Everett Price.
This family’s cry for help to the government went unanswered. But since they went public with the story, the Minister of Health now seems to agree with New Democrats that “it’s the right thing to do” to accommodate the Prices.
My question is a simple one: When will the government make this right and reunite Mr. and Mrs. Price?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: To the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Speaker, of course we all want couples to be together if at all possible. That’s why we’ve made significant changes in our long-term-care homes so that spouses who had been separated in the past are now together. Spousal reunification has been a real godsend to many of those couples who had been separated in long-term-care homes.
This issue is one that I am looking very closely at. We’ve come a long way when both partners are in a long-term-care home. The question now is, what can we do to bring couples together where one is in long-term care and one is in the community? My heart goes out to this family and to all the others who are really wanting to be together with their spouse.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Andrea Horwath: According to the government, as the minister has just mentioned, spousal reunification is one of the highest priorities of the Long-Term Care Act. The health minister appears to agree with New Democrats, but nice words aren’t enough.
Mr. and Mrs. Price actually lived in the same location until Mrs. Price ended up in hospital. Now, as she’s coming out of hospital and needs to have long-term care, all of a sudden, a 70-year relationship is going to be torn apart, because the system simply will not allow the rules to enable these two people to go back to the same place they used to live before. It doesn’t make sense.
I want to know from the government when their nice words will turn into real actions for Mr. and Mrs. Price in London.
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Speaker, this is an issue that has been raised when I have visited places where there is both a long-term-care home and a retirement home on the same site. This is an issue that’s been brought forward, for example, when I was in Kitchener-Waterloo, visiting a Schlegel home there. It was an issue that people raised in that venue and others.
What I can say is I want people who have been together for so many decades to be together as long as possible. We’ve got some work to do to make that happen, but we’re doing that work.
NORTHERN ECONOMY
Mr. Phil McNeely: My question is to the Minister of Natural Resources. Ontarians recognize the importance of northern Ontario and that the people there should be heard from and have their concerns addressed. We all know that this Premier and this government is ready to work for everyone and is listening to all Ontarians, including how we can realize the potential of the resources that northern Ontario has to offer. Can the Minister of Natural Resources tell all of us what this government has done and will do to hear from northerners, and how they can be part of our strong and growing economy?
Hon. David Orazietti: I want to thank the member for the question. For many northerners, the MNR is a ministry with which they have a high level of contact. Whether individuals are obtaining an Outdoors Card to hunt and fish or enjoy one of our 334 provincial parks, we are working to modernize the way we deliver these services. We’re also working with our partners in industry, including the Ontario Forest Industries Association, to promote economic development in the north, while responsibly managing our province’s natural resources.
Just last week, we held a cabinet meeting in northern Ontario, in my riding of Sault Ste. Marie, to allow cabinet ministers the opportunity to hear first-hand from northerners and individuals and organizations with whom they interact. I certainly want to express my appreciation and support to my colleagues for taking the time to do that. It demonstrated very clearly our government’s commitment to listening to northern residents about their distinct and unique challenges and the opportunities in northern Ontario.
I also want to say, Speaker, it certainly fulfills the commitment that the Premier has made, holding a cabinet meeting in northern Ontario. We’re very grateful for that. Thank you.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Phil McNeely: Thank you, Speaker, and back to the Minister of Natural Resources. I know that expanding economic development in Ontario’s north has been identified as a key priority for our government, and the Ministry of Natural Resources plays a significant role in that. Northern Ontario is a place of unimaginable potential in many ways. It holds the key to continuing our economic growth.
In order to create more good jobs in the region, we must focus on development of more paths to employment, including those for young people in aboriginal communities in the north. Can the member please tell the members of this House about the creation of the new cabinet committee and share what our government is doing to promote economic development across northern Ontario?
Hon. David Orazietti: To the Minister of Northern Development and Mines.
Hon. Michael Gravelle: Of course, being from Thunder Bay, in northwestern Ontario—a part of the world that I love so much and fought so hard for—I could not be more excited or proud of the direction our government is taking under Premier Wynne. Certainly, we are continuing to invest in the construction of better transportation routes and better infrastructure, and in terms of our blueprint vision for the northern Ontario growth plan, we are fully committed to implementing that landmark document.
As the Premier did announce on Friday, there will be a new northern cabinet committee chaired by our colleague Bill Mauro, from Thunder Bay–Atikokan. This will really bring a true northern lens to all government policy. May I say to the opposition members that this committee is going to be reaching out to opposition members, with other stakeholders—municipal stakeholders—as we work to improve transportation, create jobs and ensure a bright future for every person in northern Ontario.
MANUFACTURING JOBS
Mr. Monte McNaughton: My question today is for the Minister of Finance. The month of January marked the 73rd straight month that Ontario’s unemployment rate has been higher than the national average.
Last week, we learned that Diamond Aircraft in London is laying off another 200 workers at its plant; this is on top of the hundreds of people who were laid off in 2011. Minister, as you know, Diamond Aircraft is owned by Medrar Financial Group, which operates out of Dubai. Was your decision to invest $10 million into this Dubai-owned company because Diamond Aircraft has been a significant contributor to the Liberal Party of Ontario going back to 2005?
Hon. Charles Sousa: To the Minister of Economic Development and Trade.
Hon. Eric Hoskins: I thank the member opposite for the question. Of course, I already spoke to this last week. I appreciate the opportunity to speak to it again. Obviously, we’re very concerned for the future of the employees and their families.
We did make an investment to Diamond of $5 million; in fact, the federal government also made a similar investment. Our investment in 2006, over the five-year term of that agreement, they met all of the benchmarks for job creation and for sustaining employment in London. In fact, with the recent announcement, I’m also encouraged to hear that the president and the CEO have said they want to hire back as many employees as possible as quickly as possible, but the exact number and timing has yet to be determined.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Mr. Monte McNaughton: Back to the minister: Diamond Aircraft has been used by your government as a showpiece example of corporate welfare strategy. Unfortunately for those workers at Diamond Aircraft, much like those at WindTronics, Knorr Brake and Digital Extremes, your method of picking winners and losers is failing badly. Diamond Aircraft is laying off 200 people in London after you have given it millions of dollars through your failed corporate welfare program. Coincidentally, this Dubai-owned company has donated thousands upon thousands of dollars to the Liberal Party of Ontario. Coincidence? We think not.
Tell us, Minister, just how many other corporate welfare recipients have been donors to the Ontario Liberal Party? Will you also promise to wash your party’s dirty hands and return your party’s donations back to the Middle East?
Hon. Eric Hoskins: Frankly, it’s very disappointing that the member opposite continues to disparage our private sector and not be interested in job creation at all.
A year ago, last February, the PC Party continued to talk about their opposition to what they refer to as corporate welfare. In fact, the member opposite would be interested in this quote where, even in his own riding of Lambton–Kent–Middlesex, a local politician there representing the constituents said, “Local business owners do perfectly well without handouts from Queen’s Park.” That local politician was you, actually. It might come as a surprise to Lambton Conveyor, which is the first recipient of funds from the southwestern Ontario development fund, which is creating 110 new jobs in your riding.
PROPERTY TAXATION
Mr. Michael Mantha: My question is to the Premier. Several weeks ago, Premier, MPAC ruled that the town of Espanola must pay pulp and paper giant Domtar $4 million following a property reassessment of its Espanola mill. Domtar is one of the world’s largest pulp and paper companies, with revenues of $5.6 billion in 2011 alone.
When a small community such as Espanola is forced to retroactively cough up a good part of its tax base to repay a global giant such as Domtar, what is the Premier prepared to do to fix the flawed MPAC reassessment process?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I know the Minister of Finance will want to speak to this issue, but I want to make a general comment about the economic viability of small communities, particularly small communities in the north.
Having been Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing and having been Minister of Transportation, Mr. Speaker, there are a number of initiatives that we have put in place to work with communities to make sure that they have the capacity to deliver the services that they need in their communities and to make sure that they can keep their infrastructure in place. We have worked with municipalities to make sure they can develop asset management plans, Mr. Speaker.
We are very, very committed to continuing to invest in roads and bridges and that kind of infrastructure that’s needed because it’s about economic development; it’s about making sure that small communities have the capacity to have the economy that they need to sustain their constituents.
I know the Minister of Finance will want to speak to the specifics of the assessment, but economic development and the capacity to be viable is at the root of this—
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Thank you.
Supplementary?
Mr. Michael Mantha: Once again my question is to the Premier. Although the Premier was just in Sault Ste. Marie for her cabinet photo op, it’s clear she doesn’t understand the challenges facing northerners. Communities such as Dryden, Elk Lake, Fort Frances, just to name a few, are watching these decisions very carefully, and they are concerned with the impact that MPAC is going to have on their communities. Residents of Espanola simply cannot afford a 50% tax increase or to pay Domtar.
Will the Premier commit to reviewing the reassessment process and, in particular, this devastating decision for Espanola and other communities in northern Ontario?
Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: To the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Charles Sousa: The province does understand some of the implications that you speak of. It’s critical that we do review these things going forward. We understand the impact it has, and we understand also the necessity for those municipalities to be well served.
There’s only one taxpayer in this system. We know that the assessment has been put forward, and we have made a commitment to have it reviewed. We have sat down with some of the stakeholders on some of the initiatives already, and we’ll continue to do so. I do appreciate you bringing it forward, even last week, and we’ll make every effort to move forward on that issue.
CHILDHOOD OBESITY
Ms. Soo Wong: My question is to the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care. I was privileged to serve as a trustee for several years in my riding of Scarborough–Agincourt. Something that I have always been concerned about and advocate for is healthy living for our kids. It is important for kids to have the ability to learn at school and grow up to be healthy.
We know that we have a challenge in Ontario. Obesity rates have risen significantly, and we know obesity leads to heart disease and diabetes. Researchers say this generation of children could actually live shorter lives than their parents. This is why I’m very proud to have run as a Liberal in 2011, with an ambitious goal to reduce childhood obesity.
Through you, Speaker, to the minister: How are we, as a government, going to fulfill this commitment?
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Thank you to the member from Scarborough–Agincourt for her energy and thoughtfulness as a member of the Healthy Kids panel.
We all love our kids. We want our kids to be healthy, not just when they are young, but as they grow up, too. But we know that too many of our kids are not as healthy as they could be, and that has serious consequences for our health care system.
As a first step in helping our kids be healthier, I went to the experts. I’m very proud that today the Healthy Kids panel has released an excellent report based on the best available evidence and with thoughtful recommendations. As a starting point, we’re going to form an inter-ministerial working group that will direct the government’s actions on implementing many of the report’s key recommendations. It will be co-chaired by me and Minister Piruzza, the Minister of Children and Youth Services.
Speaker, we will be working with all our colleagues, but I have to underline that this report is an excellent resource, not just for government, but for families, for parents and for anybody who cares about the health of our kids.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Supplementary?
Ms. Soo Wong: This is a good start. However, the challenges we face together are significant. Some 25% of health care costs are due to preventable illnesses. Nearly half of cancer deaths are related to tobacco use, diet and lack of physical activity. Obesity has a direct effect on the rates of type 2 diabetes, and diabetes costs Ontario $4.9 billion. Currently, over 50% of adults in Ontario and about 20% of our youth are overweight.
Through you, Speaker, to the minister: What action is being taken right now to address these significant challenges?
Hon. Deborah Matthews: Speaker, there is no one single recommendation that will solve all of the problems. We need action on all fronts if we’re going to make progress. We currently spend more than $500 million a year on initiatives and programs that directly and indirectly support Ontarians to lead healthier and active lives.
We’ve already taken steps to help Ontarians live healthy lives, such as the Student Nutrition Program. It has provided over 630,000 students with nutritious breakfasts, snacks and lunches within Ontario. We also encourage healthy eating through the Foodland Ontario program and our farmer’s market support to get fresh fruit grown by our farmers to consumers. The children’s activity tax credit allows parents to claim up to $526 of expenses related to enrolling their kids in activities.
Speaker, there is much more to do. The Healthy Kids panel report gives us very good advice on how to move forward.
CORRECTION OF RECORD
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): The member for London–Fanshawe on a point of order.
Ms. Teresa J. Armstrong: Thank you, Speaker. I would like to correct the record—with average undergrad tuition over $7,100, the highest and the fastest-growing in Canada.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): As members all know, anyone at any time can correct their own record, and I thank the member for doing so.
USE OF QUESTION PERIOD
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): I want to make one quick comment before we dismiss, and that is that I’ve noticed an unfortunate trend in the House, and I’m going to ask you to stop. That trend is to call members by their names, even when you’re heckling, and even using unfortunate nicknames. That does not race to the top. That is what has caused what I’ve been telling you about, and that is the personal comments that are being made. Refer to members either by their role or their riding. The second thing is, on the personal side, by not doing so, it races to the top.
So I would ask all members to abide by this by not calling members by their name, particularly when they’re heckling, and particularly using nicknames.
There are no deferred votes. This House stands adjourned until 1 p.m. this afternoon.
The House recessed from 1140 to 1300.
INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS
Mr. Ernie Hardeman: I rise today to welcome a number of my constituents from the great riding of Oxford who are here this week to meet with members of the Legislature regarding their concerns about water quality and their concerns about a proposed landfill site. I want to commend them for their efforts, and I hope that many members will take the time to meet with them this week.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Stop the clock. I will make a comment on that because I didn’t even hear a name. When we introduce people, the sole purpose is to introduce people and not to make a statement. So I’m going to remind all not to do that.
MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS
DRIVE CLEAN
Mr. Michael Harris: Today, I rise to express the frustration of Ontarians with the Liberal government’s new and technically flawed Drive Clean test.
Up until the Liberals introduced this computerized testing method on January 1, 95% of vehicles met the program’s requirements as a result of improved technology and standards. But that didn’t stop the Liberals from rushing to introduce a new computerized testing method that they knew would create an artificial spike in the failure rate for emissions tests.
Now, every day, countless vehicles fail this new test—not because of emissions-related problems but because of a computer error. Rather than address these technical issues, the Liberals have told Ontarians to spend their valuable time and money driving on highways and around town in the hopes that their vehicle’s onboard computer will correct itself for the next test.
What’s truly unfortunate is that the Liberals gave no thought to the unwarranted financial hardship and stress these false fails would have on drivers and car dealers. Clearly, it’s time to phase the program out. In less than one month of launching scrapdriveclean.ca, over 1,500 people have completed our online petition calling for the program to be eliminated.
I would like to encourage all Ontarians who want this technically flawed test put to an end to sign our online petition today or to fill out the downloaded petition form—scrapdriveclean.ca.
MINING INDUSTRY
Mr. Gilles Bisson: We’ve listened to this government now, in three budgets—probably three or four—and at least two throne speeches, talk about the wonderful opportunity that presents itself in the Ring of Fire in northern Ontario. We have some of the best mineralogical ability in that particular part of the province when it comes to chromite, when it comes to nickel, when it comes to other metals.
We’re looking at this government and saying, “Where have you been for the last three or four years?” There is an opportunity here to position Ontario as a stainless steel producer. You need chromite, you need nickel and you need iron ore, all things that belong here in Ontario, and if all we’re trying to do is to create a mine up in the Ring of Fire, I think we’re selling Ontario short. We should be trying to position this as a stainless steel play for the province of Ontario.
Imagine if we can mine the minerals that exist in the Ring of Fire, that we can ship them to facilities here in Ontario that not only transform them to chromite, but bring them from chromite all the way to stainless steel, we have an opportunity to create, in this province, an economic powerhouse that will be able to help this province for years to come. This is not an industry that will be there for five or 10 years; it’s an industry that will be there for 100 years.
I look at this government and I say to myself, “Where have you been?” It seems to me they’re trying to downplay the potential of the Ring of Fire. So I say to this government, we should really be looking at positioning this as the Ring of Fire is moving into production. We should be looking at how we position this so that we can be in the stainless steel business here in Ontario.
FLORENCE AND WILLEM SCHURMAN
Ms. Helena Jaczek: I want to take this opportunity to congratulate Richmond Hill residents Florence and Willem Schurman on their 71st wedding anniversary. Mr. and Mrs. Schurman were recently honoured by Worldwide Marriage Encounter as the longest-married couple in Ontario.
I first met Flo and Bill while canvassing as the provincial Liberal candidate in the former riding of Oak Ridges. I was really fortunate to have the support of these experienced volunteers during the 2003 general election. Passionate about politics, the couple has been volunteering on political campaigns since the 1960s.
Flo, now 89, and Bill, 94, say that the secret to their long-lasting relationship is simple: Never part on an angry word.
Since first meeting as neighbours in Richmond Hill, they’ve built a full life together. Through the turbulent years of the Second World War, they raised a large family of six children, and they now have 12 grandchildren and five great-grandchildren. As active members of the community contributing to horticultural and historical societies, Flo was honoured as Richmond Hill’s Senior of the Year in 2005.
Today, the couple continues to live in their own seniors’ apartment. I, along with my colleague MPP Reza Moridi, want to thank them for helping make Richmond Hill a great community in which to live. Congratulations, Flo and Bill.
LEGISLATIVE INTERNS
Ms. Lisa M. Thompson: I rise to give recognition to the Ontario Legislative Internship Programme, and particularly the intern I had the pleasure of hosting in my office, Beth Elder.
What is unique about the OLIP program is that the interns choose the MPP, not the other way around. I feel honoured to have been selected by Beth as her first-term host MPP.
Beth is originally from Calgary, but moved to Toronto to attend the University of Toronto. She used her experience as an intern to discover the great opportunities in rural Ontario, particularly Huron–Bruce.
I can’t say enough good things about Beth’s work in our office. She’s a very quick study who was planning large events, writing press releases and doing fantastic research. Beth visited the great riding of Huron–Bruce on numerous occasions, learning about the opportunities and the challenges rural Ontario is facing.
I recommend the internship program, not only to other graduates interested in pursuing a career in the political world, but to my colleagues here in the Legislature as well.
Beth departed our office last month, and her presence is already greatly missed. She has a really bright future ahead of her and I wanted to take a moment to thank her for all she did. I wish her the best of luck as she pursues her current placement, and in her future endeavours as well.
PEEL MEMORIAL HOSPITAL
Mr. Jagmeet Singh: I had the opportunity to recently attend a town hall meeting regarding the Peel Memorial Hospital in my riding in the region of Brampton. The region of Peel is expected to pay $120 million out of the $420-million cost to redevelop this hospital. Now, it’s simply unacceptable to expect a municipality to fund this high of a cost for a project which the province of Ontario has the mandate to fund—institutions such as hospitals and schools.
The Liberal government has been campaigning on the issue of revitalizing this hospital since 2007. Now, promise after promise has been broken. To date, a comprehensive plan with funding has not been announced by this provincial government; we do not have a concrete start date or completion date. This is yet another example of the Liberal government’s track record of broken promises.
The people of Brampton need two hospitals. They deserve two hospitals. It’s a municipality of over 500,000 people. Now we need to see some actual funding, some concrete funding, to ensure that this promise is not yet another empty promise and there’s actually something concrete to it.
ORGAN DONATION
In 2012, there was a record number of organ transplants performed in Ontario. However, less than 25% of Ontarians are currently registered as organ donors.
Community leaders in my riding, led by Jennifer Malabar, an organ recipient, have been running a successful local campaign to raise the number of registered donors in Oakville. They’ve also challenged other communities to do exactly the same.
Today, Speaker, I encourage all members to take on that challenge and encourage their constituents to sign up for the Be a Donor campaign at beadonor.ca so we can hear more successful stories similar to Keith and Jennifer’s.
DON MCVITTIE
Mr. Norm Miller: Mr. Speaker, I rise in the House today to congratulate a very deserving constituent from my riding of Parry Sound–Muskoka. On Friday, February 22 here at Queen’s Park, Don McVittie was awarded the Lieutenant Governor’s Ontario Heritage Award for lifetime achievement.
I couldn’t think of a more fitting honour for a person who has done so much over the past 25 years for the preservation, protection and restoration of Parry Sound–Muskoka’s proud heritage. As a volunteer, Don has been extremely generous with his time. He has contributed immensely to the Muskoka Heritage Foundation and Trust, the Parry Sound-Muskoka Stewardship Council and the Muskoka Watershed Council. A champion of the great outdoors, Don is personally responsible for the planting of over 150,000 trees and has been a strong supporter of local Scout troops and their own tree-planting initiatives.
Don is also a lifetime member of the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters and donated a number of wildlife displays to the OFAH Mario Cortellucci Hunting and Fishing Heritage Centre to support its opening in 2010.
Future generations will benefit from Don’s contributions, and I would like to personally congratulate him on this prestigious award. Congratulations, Don.
QUEEN ELIZABETH II DIAMOND JUBILEE MEDAL
Mrs. Amrit Mangat: It was my privilege as a member of provincial Parliament to present the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee Medal to 13 worthy individuals. This commemorative medal was created to mark the 60th anniversary of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II’s ascension to the throne.
The individuals who received the medal were from varied backgrounds. They had made significant contributions to our community, our province and our country. They are Lynn Petrushchak, Asha Luthra, Shelley White, Joginder Grewal, Ronald Cunningham, Sunita Malik, Didi Kaneff, Peter St. Denis, Mir Sultan, Brigadier General Gregory Young, Joga Chahal, Sabita Maraj and Alok Goel.
I express my heartiest congratulations to each one of them and their families for making our province a better place to live, work, play, invest and raise a family.
NUTRITION MONTH
Mrs. Christine Elliott: It’s my pleasure to rise today on behalf of Tim Hudak and the entire PC caucus to recognize March as Nutrition Month in Canada. This year’s theme focuses on helping consumers make healthy choices at the grocery store, advising us to plan, shop, cook and enjoy healthy foods.
Nutrition Month is also an opportunity for us to recognize the phenomenal work of registered dietitians. These committed health professionals not only use their expertise to translate the science of nutrition into practical advice for Ontarians but also treat nutrition-related conditions and support clients to self-manage their care. The unique training and skill sets of registered dietitians makes them valuable partners in containing health care costs by preventing and managing chronic conditions.
With increasing rates of diabetes and other chronic conditions, the need for access to dietitians’ expertise continues to grow. Although Nutrition Month is formally recognized in March, it’s important that we keep in mind the importance of nutrition to health throughout the entire year.
I want to thank the Registered Dietitians of Ontario for bringing attention to this important cause, and I wish you all the best as you pursue a healthier future for all Ontarians.
INTRODUCTION OF BILLS
TERRA PAVING INC. ACT, 2013
Mr. Shurman moved first reading of the following bill:
Bill Pr5,
An Act to revive Terra Paving Inc.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.
First reading agreed to.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Pursuant to standing order 86, this bill stands referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CONSULTING
INC. ACT, 2013
Mr. O’Toole moved first reading of the following bill:
Bill Pr12,
An Act to revive Universal Health Consulting Inc.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.
First reading agreed to.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Pursuant to standing order 86, this bill stands referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.
ASPEN DRYWALL INC. ACT, 2013
Mr. O’Toole moved first reading of the following bill:
Bill Pr14,
An Act to revive Aspen Drywall Inc.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.
First reading agreed to.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Pursuant to standing order 86, this bill stands referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.
STATEMENTS BY THE MINISTRY
AND RESPONSES
SOCIAL WORKERS
Hon. Ted McMeekin: I rise today to mark the beginning of Social Work Week. It’s a week recognized across Canada to pay tribute to the ongoing contribution social workers make every day to the front lines, assisting and supporting people, often in times of crisis.
The occasion was established by the Canadian Association of Social Workers more than two decades ago. In Ontario, Social Work Week is marked during the first week of March. This year’s theme, “Restoring Hope: The Power of Social Work,” was chosen to highlight the role that social workers play in helping to restore hope for their clients and their communities. Ontario’s social workers do this by providing a wide range of services to people in need, from offering counselling to providing referrals to other resources in the community.
The Ontario government funds a range of social services to assist people in need, but it is often social workers who actually transform our policies and programs into services for people every day in communities all across Ontario.
Mr. Speaker, I know that social work is a proud and noble profession, as I myself have a master’s degree in this field. In fact, in my final graduate school year, my study field placement was actually here at Queen’s Park. So I worked alongside many social workers before I became an MPP, and have done much social work since I became an MPP—I can assure you, we all have. I know first-hand how challenging this work can be, and how it can also be so incredibly rewarding in helping to offer hope to people and to rebuild their lives.
I’m proud that our government has supported social workers in offering that hope. In 2009, the government made changes to allow those who have earned their doctorate degree in social work to use the title “Doctor” when providing health care to individuals. Social workers authorized to provide psychotherapy services will also be able to use the title “psychotherapist.”
The Ontario Labour Mobility Act is another example of how our government supports the profession of social work. We brought in this change as part of a national agreement ensuring that qualified workers can have their credentials recognized anywhere in Canada. It means that when a social worker who is already registered or licensed in another Canadian province applies for registration as a social worker in Ontario, they will no longer need to have additional training, experience, examinations or assessments. This agreement gives social workers more flexibility when making important career choices.
Our government is proud to support social workers. As we join the Ontario Association of Social Workers in recognizing this special week, I want to thank all of Ontario’s social workers for all that they do to enhance the quality of life for countless individuals and their families all across Ontario. Thank you very much.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): It is now time for responses.
Mr. Toby Barrett: Speaker, hope does spring eternal, and as we heard, the theme for Social Work Week is “Restoring Hope: The Power of Social Work.”
The Ontario Association of Social Workers have indicated that this year’s theme was adopted because of the role that social workers play in helping not only clients but also communities and society restore and build on a sense of hope. So hope does spring eternal, even under this present government.
Social workers do offer hope for people, and it’s rooted in a very practical problem-solving approach. We do recognize the power of social work to help people reignite that sense of hope and to better enable them to deal with challenges in their lives.
At its most basic, counselling is an approach to help people help themselves to solve their own problems. I say that with some authority. I also have an indirect connection. My wife is a psychiatric social worker, an MSW from Chicago, at Aurora.
Compassion is really part of this province’s defining characteristic, and it does mean helping people to reach their full potential, not condemning them to a life of dependency. Allocating a week to social work generates discussion about how we can better serve our most vulnerable citizens in the most cost-effective manner. We must refocus. We must set priorities, concentrate on our social welfare services, but most importantly, focus on the elderly, the sick, the disabled—those who are truly disadvantaged.
For over 200 years in this jurisdiction, individuals, families and churches have helped one another with minimal government assistance. Beyond the social work profession, we all have a duty to help the truly disadvantaged, those who have been reduced to the lowest depths of poverty and distress, particularly those with a disability, who are perhaps on a program through no fault of their own.
It’s time to wake up Ontario’s social welfare system. To do this, we need approaches and programs laden with fresh, cost-effective ideas, ever bearing in mind the complexity of the issues we’re dealing with.
Some issues: For six straight years, Ontario’s unemployment rate has been higher than the national average. We have 300,000 people living in poverty. For over a decade, spending on social services has increased by 67%. There’s a lot we can do with the $10 billion a year that is allocated to this particular ministry—$10 billion; very significant. It pales in comparison only to the health budget, the education budget and the interest we pay on the debt.
So many issues: addictions—that was my background for 20 years—mental health issues, unemployment, poverty. They all contribute to these health care costs, to burdens on our police forces and to diminished educational outcomes. This, in turn, inhibits productivity, labour force flexibility, lifespans, economic expansion and social progress. All of this takes place at a huge cost to taxpayers.
Therefore, we have to tap into a profession like social workers and other individuals who can offer creative, innovative thinking. Those who work in the field better understand how we can redesign Ontario’s services, obviously, to be better, more effective and more focused. We have published a white paper on this subject. I encourage people to give us a call. Those on the front lines should continue to be invited to contribute.
Speaker, the vision remains an effective, affordable and accountable service system that supports and invests in families and communities, where adults are as independent as they can be, where children are safe and where support is provided to those most in need.
Ms. Cheri DiNovo: It’s an honour and a privilege to rise in recognition of those who work on the front lines with some of our society’s most entrenched problems and how they work their way out into the lives of human beings. Those are our social workers.
It’s really quite fitting that the theme is “Restoring Hope.”
Certainly, we in the New Democratic Party and our leader, Andrea Horwath, want to acknowledge the incredible service and the incredible dedication of our social workers across the province.
It’s not all good news, though. We have a slightly different tack from the government in how we can help our social workers, and that is to say that the best way of helping our social workers is to help their clients. The best way of helping their clients is to help those who really have lost in terms of the social determinants of health—and I’m talking about poverty.
I’ll give you two very pungent examples. Two of the social work organizations that I’ve worked with closely and that I have a great deal of respect and honour for are, for example, Victim Services—just around the corner and down the street, housed by the police because they can’t afford their own lodging. Victim Services is the only agency in Toronto and the GTA that goes out with the police when there’s a domestic violence incident, when there are crimes mainly and mostly against women. This is their sorry state of affairs, Mr. Speaker: They haven’t had a funding increase for 20 years. In fact, the funding per victim for Victim Services has gone from $286 per victim in 1990 to $31 in 2010.
Another organization I have a great deal of respect for: Parkdale Activity-Recreation Centre in my own riding. They deal with thousands of folks with mental health and addiction issues over the course of a year. They feed hundreds every week. Their cost increases—they provide supportive housing—have gone up 2% to 5% a year, yet their supportive housing per diem has not increased since April 2009.
I suggest that the best way to help our social workers on the front lines is to help them by, first of all, funding them so that they can provide the help their clients need.
Also, it’s about promise-keeping. For example, this government made some key commitments in 2008, and I’m just going to run through a couple of them. They promised to raise the Ontario Child Benefit—this helps children who live in poverty—to $1,310 by 2013. It’s 2013, and yet they’re still funded at the 2009 level of $1,100 per child. They promised to review social assistance to reduce barriers and increase opportunities, and yet from all the over 100 recommendations in the social assistance review, not one has been implemented to date.
They promised to raise the minimum wage, yet no announcement has been made since it was increased to $10.25 an hour. In fact, it has been frozen since March 2010. They promised $45 million a year for three years for dental care for low-income Ontarians, yet in fact, eligible adults aren’t eligible under the new program, and it was cut from $10.3 million to $3.3 million in 2011-12. They promised to initiate the process for the next five-year phase of the Poverty Reduction Strategy, and we have heard no concrete plans whatsoever this year.
Mr. Speaker, this is against the backdrop of six people dying on the streets of Toronto from homelessness since the beginning of January—over 700 since the 1980s, when it was considered a national disaster. We now step over the bodies, Mr. Speaker. These are the bodies that our social workers look after.
Instead of stepping over the bodies, why don’t we do something about it? Why don’t we help our social workers? Why don’t we fund them appropriately? Why don’t we help people who are sleeping on grates? Why don’t we help the one in seven children who are living in poverty?
It was sad to see the Minister of Children and Youth Services stand up to applause on what they’re doing on the child poverty file. There’s nothing to be proud about, Mr. Speaker, when one in seven children lives in poverty in this province.
So with all of that, I leave it to the capable hands of the new Minister of Community and Social Services to do something, because that’s what our social workers need. They need this government to not just give them a week but to give them some time and, more importantly, Mr. Speaker, give them some money so they can do their work.
PETITIONS
HOSPITAL PARKING FEES
Mr. John O’Toole: I’m pleased to rise and present a petition on behalf of my constituents from Durham. It reads as follows:
“Whereas the United Senior Citizens of Ontario has expressed its concerns over the high costs of parking at hospitals in Ontario on behalf of its more than 300,000 members; and
“Whereas thousands of Ontario seniors find it difficult to live on their fixed income and cannot afford these extra hospital parking fees added to their daily living costs; and
“Whereas the Canadian Medical Association Journal” recently “said in an editorial that parking fees are a barrier to health care and add ... stress to patients who have enough to deal with;
“Therefore we, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“That Ontario’s members of provincial Parliament and” Kathleen Wynne’s “government take action to abolish parking fees for all seniors when visiting hospitals.”
I’m pleased to sign and support this—my constituents Florence Russell and George Clarke have signed the petition—and give it to page Jaden.
AIR QUALITY
Mr. Michael Harris: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas Ontario’s Drive Clean program was implemented only as a temporary measure to reduce high levels of vehicle emissions and smog; and
“Whereas vehicle emissions have declined so significantly from 1998 to 2010 that they are no longer among the major domestic contributors of smog in Ontario; and
“Whereas the overwhelming majority of reductions in vehicle emissions were, in fact, the result of factors other than the Drive Clean program, such as tighter manufacturing standards for emission-control technologies; and
“Whereas from 1999 to 2010 the percentage of vehicles that failed emissions testing under the Drive Clean program steadily declined from 16% to 5%; and
“Whereas the environment minister has ignored advances in technology and introduced a new, computerized emissions test that is less reliable and prone to error; and
“Whereas the new Drive Clean test no longer assess tailpipe emissions, but instead scans the on-board diagnostics systems of vehicles, which already perform a series of continuous and periodic emissions checks; and
“Whereas the new Drive Clean test has caused the failure rate to double in less than two months as a result of technical problems with the new emissions testing method; and
“Whereas this new emissions test has caused numerous false ‘Fail’ results, which have resulted in the overcharging of testing fees for Ontario drivers and car dealerships, thereby causing unwarranted economic hardship and stress;
“Therefore we, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly as follows:
“That the Minister of the Environment must take immediate steps to begin phasing out the Drive Clean program.”
Speaker, I approve and endorse this petition and will affix my name to it and send it down to you with Joshua.
The Speaker (Hon. Dave Levac): Stop the clock, please.
I have to provide a reminder for people presenting petitions that they should be stamped ahead of time, and that that’s understood. The reason for that is to ensure that they are properly recorded in the record for the constituents who sign them. If they’re not stamped, they don’t get submitted. So as a reminder, please submit your petitions to the table beforehand to be verified.
As a reminder, there’s a generic form that shows you how to write it, because it has to be done on one page. It can’t be two or more pages. I’m just offering that as a reminder to all of our members.
We’ll continue with petitions.
OFFICE OF THE OMBUDSMAN
Miss Monique Taylor: This is a petition to the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas the Ontario Ombudsman, who is an officer of the Legislature, is not allowed to provide trusted, independent investigations of complaints against children’s aid societies; and
“Whereas Ontario is the only province in Canada not allowing their Ombudsman to investigate complaints against children’s aid societies; and
“Whereas people who feel they have been wronged by the actions of children’s aid societies are left feeling helpless with nowhere else to turn for help to correct systemic issues;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to grant the Ombudsman the power to investigate children’s aid societies.”
I fully support this petition. I will affix my name to it, along with the other thousands that have been submitted so far, and give it to page Olivia to bring to the table.
FAMILY SAFETY
Mr. Bob Delaney: I have a petition addressed to the Ontario Legislative Assembly, and it reads as follows:
“Whereas the Safer Families Program is a successful partnership of Catholic Family Services Peel-Dufferin, Family Services of Peel and the Peel Children’s Aid Society (CAS), receives year-to-year funding from the Ontario Ministry of Children and Youth Services, and is a critical component of social services to families within the Peel community; and
“Whereas the intervention model for Safer Families currently operates with no waiting lists, an important consideration for families experiencing domestic violence and child protection concerns, as they require immediate access to service; and
“Whereas the Safer Families Program is aligned with Ontario’s child poverty agenda, is committed to preventing violence against women, and contributes to community capacity building to support child welfare delivery; and
“Whereas currently, Safer Families serves 14% of all domestic violence cases referred to Peel Children’s Aid Society and has the ability to double the number of cases it handles;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“That the government of Ontario adjust its funding to supply ongoing core funding rather than year-to-year funding, and realign funding to double the percentage of cases referred by the Peel Children’s Aid Society and served by the Safer Families Program.”
I am pleased to sign and support this petition and to send it with page Angela.
ONTARIO COLLEGE OF TRADES
Mr. Bill Walker: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas Ontario’s tradespeople are subject to stifling regulation and are compelled to pay membership fees to the unaccountable College of Trades; and
“Whereas these fees are a tax grab that drives down the wages of skilled tradespeople; and
“Whereas Ontario desperately needs a plan to solve our critical shortage of skilled tradespeople by encouraging our youth to enter the trades and attracting new tradespeople; and
“Whereas the latest policies from the” Wynne-McGuinty “government only aggravate the looming skilled trades shortage in Ontario;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“To immediately disband the College of Trades, cease imposing needless membership fees and enact policies to attract young Ontarians into skilled trade careers.”
I support this and will send it with page Stacey to the Clerks’ desk.
REPLACEMENT WORKERS
M me France Gélinas: I have this petition from all over Ontario.
“Whereas strikes and lockouts are rare: on average, 97% of collective agreements are negotiated without work disruption; and
“Whereas anti-temporary replacement workers laws have existed in Quebec since 1978; in British Columbia since 1993; and successive governments in those two provinces have never repealed those laws; and
“Whereas anti-temporary replacement workers legislation has reduced the length and divisiveness of labour disputes; and
“Whereas the use of temporary replacement workers during a strike or lockout is damaging to the social fabric of a community in the short and the long term as well as the well-being of its residents;”
They “petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to enact legislation banning the use of temporary replacement workers during a strike or lockout.”
I fully support this petition, will affix my name to it, and ask page A.J. to bring it to the Clerk.
LYME DISEASE
Ms. Lisa M. Thompson: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas the tick-borne illness known as chronic Lyme disease, which mimics many catastrophic illnesses such as multiple sclerosis, Crohn’s, Alzheimer’s, arthritic diabetes, depression, chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, is increasingly endemic in Canada, but scientifically validated diagnostic tests and treatment choices are currently not available in Ontario, forcing patients to seek these in the USA and Europe;
“Whereas the Canadian Medical Association informed the public, governments and the medical profession in the May 30, 2000, edition of its professional journal that Lyme disease is endemic throughout Canada, particularly in southern Ontario;
“Whereas the Ontario public health system and the Ontario Health Insurance Plan currently do not fund those specific tests that accurately serve the process for establishing a clinical diagnosis, but only recognize testing procedures known in the medical literature to provide false negatives 45% to 95% of the time;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario to request the Minister of Health to direct the Ontario public health system and OHIP to include all currently available and scientifically verified tests for acute and chronic Lyme diagnosis, to do everything necessary to create public awareness of Lyme disease in Ontario, and to have internationally developed diagnostic and successful treatment protocols available to patients and physicians.”
I totally agree with this petition, Speaker. I affix my signature, and I’ll send this to the table with Alexander.
GREENWATER PARK
Mr. John Vanthof: I have this petition on behalf of hundreds of people who have signed it.
“To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas the present government of Ontario should reverse the closure of Greenwater provincial park in Cochrane, Ontario;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“That the government of Ontario reverse the closure of Greenwater provincial park, to allow the park to remain fully operational and open enabling people from all over to enjoy camping and visiting on its grounds as of the spring of 2013.”
I wholeheartedly agree, add my signature, and hand it to page Justin.
WIND TURBINES
Ms. Laurie Scott: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas Sprott Power, also known as Zero Emission People, Energy Farming Ontario Inc., and Wind Works, are proposing to construct 10 wind turbines, known as Settler’s Landing and/or Snowy Ridge Wind Parks within the city of Kawartha Lakes in order to produce up to 20 megawatts of power; and
“Whereas the proposed wind parks are to be located, in whole or in part, on the Oak Ridges moraine; and
“Whereas the location of the proposed wind parks will adversely affect wildlife populations, wildlife migration patterns, human health, and the natural environment; and
“Whereas the proposed wind parks will also reduce property values and the quality of life in the surrounding communities;
“Now therefore we, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“The government of Ontario live up to its throne speech commitment, and deny these applications in recognition of this not being a willing community for industrial wind turbines; and
“That the government announce an immediate moratorium on the further development of industrial wind turbines until complete studies have been completed into all direct and indirect health impacts associated with these projects.”
I have hundreds of signatures of the 1,000 I received on Saturday at the Rolling Hills Public School in Bethany.
WIND TURBINES
Mr. Jim McDonell: “To the Legislative Assembly of Ontario:
“Whereas the Auditor General confirmed that no comprehensive evaluation was completed by the McGuinty”—Wynne—“government on the impact of the billion-dollar commitment of renewable energy on such things as net job losses and future energy prices, which will increase another 46% over the next five years; and
“Whereas poor decisions by the McGuinty government”—Wynne government—“such as the Green Energy Act, where Ontario pays up to 80 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity it doesn’t need and then must pay our neighbours to take it for free, and the billion-dollar cost of the seat-saving cancellation of the Oakville and Mississauga gas power plants, have contributed to making the cost of Ontario power the highest in North America; and
“Whereas there has been no third party study to look at the health, physical, social, economic and environmental impacts of wind turbines; and
“Whereas Ontario’s largest farm organizations, the Ontario Federation of Agriculture and the Christian Farmers Federation of Ontario, have called for a suspension of industrial wind turbine development until the serious shortcomings can be addressed; and
“Whereas the McGuinty government has removed all decision-making powers from the local municipal governments when it comes to the location and size of industrial wind ... farms;
“We, the undersigned, petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“That the Liberal government support the MPP from Huron–Bruce Lisa Thompson’s private member’s motion, which calls for a moratorium on all industrial wind turbine development until a third party health and environmental study has been completed.”
I agree with this and will be signing it.
ELECTRICITY GENERATION
The Acting Speaker (Mr. Ted Arnott): I apologize to the member for Nickel Belt for overlooking her last time, and I recognize her with her petition.
M me France Gélinas: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I won’t hold it against you. So, here we go.
“Whereas ... the Ontario government completed a review of the feed-in tariff (FIT) renewable energy procurement program;
“Whereas the government stated ‘Active participation of communities is important to the continued success of the FIT program’ and the government acknowledged ‘most local community and aboriginal projects require more time to mobilize’;
“Whereas active participation can be achieved by mobilizing ‘community enterprises’ to assess local energy generation opportunities and this development model provides a very high ROI for Ontarians by making certain that surplus revenues are reinvested for the betterment of communities;
“Whereas a community energy act is necessary to overcome the hurdles to mobilization of community enterprises for electricity generation;
We petition the Legislative Assembly to “consider the need for a community energy act to help facilitate the mobilization of communities and financial resources for the purpose of developing community enterprises for electricity generation.”
This petition comes from the people of Nickel Belt, and I would be happy to submit it to the Clerk with Olivia.
LANDFILL
Mr. Ernie Hardeman: I have a petition here signed by thousands of my constituents from the great riding of Oxford.
“Whereas many of the resources of this planet are finite and are necessary to sustain both life and quality of life for all future generations;
“Whereas the disposal of resources in landfills creates environmental hazards which will have significant human and financial costs for;
“Whereas all levels of government are elected to guarantee their constituents’ physical, financial, emotional and mental well-being;
“Whereas the health risks to the community and watershed increase in direct relationship to the proximity to any landfill site;
“Whereas the placement of a landfill site in a limestone quarry has been shown to be detrimental;
“Whereas the placement of a landfill site in the headwaters of multiple highly vulnerable aquifers in detrimental;
“Whereas the county of Oxford has passed a resolution requesting a moratorium on landfill construction or approval;
“Therefore,
be it resolved that we, the undersigned, humbly petition the Legislative Assembly of Ontario as follows:
“To implement a moratorium in Oxford county on any future landfill construction or approval until such time as a full review of alternatives has been completed which would examine best practices in other jurisdictions around the world;
“That this review of alternatives would give special emphasis on (
a) practices which involve the total recycling or composting of all products currently destined for landfill sites in Ontario and (
b) the production of goods which can efficiently and practically be recycled or reused so as not to require disposal in landfills.”
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me to present this petition. I’ll affix my signature to it.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
NON-PROFIT HOUSING
CO-OPERATIVES STATUTE LAW AMENDMENT ACT, 2013 /
LOI DE 2013 MODIFIANT DES LOIS
EN CE QUI CONCERNE
LES COOPÉRATIVES DE LOGEMENT
SANS BUT LUCRATIF
Mrs. Jeffrey moved second reading of the following bill:
Bill 14,
An Act to amend the Co-operative Corporations Act and the Residential Tenancies Act, 2006 in respect of non-profit housing co-operatives and to make consequential amendments to other Acts / Projet de loi 14, Loi modifiant la
Loi sur les sociétés coopératives et la Loi de 2006 sur la location à usage d’habitation en ce qui concerne les coopératives de logement sans but lucratif et apportant des modifications corrélatives à d’autres lois.
The Acting Speaker (Mr. Ted Arnott): I’m pleased to recognize the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing.
Hon. Linda Jeffrey: This afternoon, I’m pleased to speak on the second reading of Bill 14, an amendment to the Residential Tenancies Act, 2006, and the Co-operative Co-operations Act. I’ll be sharing my time with my parliamentary assistant, the member from Thunder Bay–Atikokan.
Our government understands the important role that co-operative housing providers play in providing affordable housing options for the people of Ontario. I want to begin this afternoon by making it clear why we believe that this legislation is needed.
Under the Co-operative Corporations Act, co-ops currently have what can be characterized as a complex, costly and time-consuming process for terminating or ending occupancy agreements. This process is called the co-op tenure dispute resolution process. When it comes to co-op tenure disputes—for example, if a tenant doesn’t pay their rent or they participate in illegal behaviour or they wilfully damage the property—the hard-working people who represent the interests of co-ops tell me the same thing: They all say that the current process for ending or terminating occupancy agreements in co-ops is too complicated.
They say that the current process is inefficient for these non-profit housing providers and their members. They say that the current process is an approach that is too costly to a non-profit housing provider. And they say that they want our government to listen.
So we’ve been listening, and we’ve heard what they’ve had to say. In fact, this is an issue that’s been important to our government for some time. Our government recognizes—and we appreciate—the dedicated and ongoing hard work of our co-operative housing federation. The federation is the main advocate in this province for not-for-profit co-op housing members and their boards. We share the federation’s commitment to maintaining and promoting a strong co-operative housing sector, and the federation has gone on record to call our proposed legislation good public policy.
This bill, if passed, would make some long-needed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act and the Co-operative Corporations Act. The focus of our proposed legislation is to move most co-op tenure disputes from the courts to the Landlord and Tenant Board.
How would our proposed legislation improve the current process? Before I get to the details of how, I’d like to explain what the Landlord and Tenant Board currently does and why we believe this is the most appropriate place for disputes to be settled.
This is the first way that our bill proposes to change the Residential Tenancies Act and the Co-operative Corporations Act. However, this could only happen when the nature or type of the dispute is already covered under the Residential Tenancies Act. That’s because the Co-operative Corporations Act provides a framework for housing co-ops to customize and create their own bylaws. The co-op’s board of directors passes bylaws that are then confirmed by the members of that co-op at a general members’ meeting.
While there are many common bylaws shared among housing co-ops, there are also some that are unique. The bylaws can include rules about communal duties, such as shoveling snow, or restrictions on pet ownership. These rules would not be affected by this bill. However, this bill would cover violations that are found in the Residential Tenancies Act, such as rent arrears, illegal behaviour or wilful damage to rental property. In these cases, co-op providers would have the option of applying for a hearing at the Landlord and Tenant Board.
The second way we propose the legislation would amend the Co-operative Corporations Act and the Residential Tenancies Act is to clarify that, when a dispute proceeds through either the courts or the Landlord and Tenant Board, it would be judged based on the merits of the case, not solely on whether the proper process was followed by the co-op board. Previously, the courts would look at whether or not a co-op’s internal dispute-resolution process was respected in making their determination.
This amendment would clarify that an eviction could not be overturned due to a minor procedural irregularity made by the co-op board. It would also clarify that an eviction could be overturned if it was found to be unjust, even if all the proper procedures of the co-op had been followed.
Another key amendment to the Co-operative Corporations Act would see the streamlining of the internal decision-making process of co-ops. It would clarify that decisions made by a co-op’s board could be appealed to the co-op membership, although only if the co-op’s bylaws expressly permit appeals.
These amendments would promote the transparency of all decisions.
These changes would ultimately save co-op providers and members considerable time, not to mention the cost of the service. To give you some context, today the average cost for co-ops to have a case heard in the courts is between $3,000 and $5,000. The time spent in court can also be lengthy due to adjournments and appeals. By comparison, an average eviction case heard by the Landlord and Tenant Board takes less than six months.
If passed, this legislation would result in lower legal fees for all parties due to shorter time frames and reduced complexity of the Landlord and Tenant Board.
Mr. Speaker, if passed, this legislation would also give co-op members and providers some of the same protections, benefits and responsibilities that are granted to landlords and tenants facing tenure disputes under the Residential Tenancies Act.
Using the Landlord and Tenant Board would give co-ops and their members access to mediation services to help them work out their differences. It would also give co-op members access to the Tenant Duty Counsel Program. This is a program that’s funded by Legal Aid Ontario and delivered by the Advocacy Centre for Tenants Ontario. This program provides low- and modest-income members with better and more affordable access to justice.
Our proposed legislation would offer co-op members involved in tenure disputes a process that is independent, transparent and affordable.
Finally, I would highlight that our proposed legislation would also permit the Landlord and Tenant Board to waive or defer fees for low-income individuals. The proposed power to waive fees would not be limited to applications related to co-op tenure disputes, but would also apply to all fees the Landlord and Tenant Board charges for landlord and tenant matters. This amendment would bring consistency to how these types of cases are treated at other tribunals and in the courts. For instance, a fee waiver program was implemented in Ontario courts in 2005, and similar provisions exist in the legislation of two other Ontario tribunals: the Ontario Municipal Board and the Assessment Review Board.
Advocates have argued that individuals and co-op members with limited means should not be denied access to the Landlord and Tenant Board if they can’t afford to file an application, similar to other tribunals in Ontario. We agree. For instance, this could be a tenant whose only source of income is a disability benefit, whose landlord has not taken steps to restore heat to her apartment and who can’t afford the $45 fee.
The fee waivers can help individuals with very low income. It’s for our vulnerable citizens who can’t stretch their budgets any further.
The Landlord and Tenant Board intends to mirror other fee waiver programs in the province, where eligibility is based on monthly household income, or other sources of income such as social assistance or a disability pension.
The Advocacy Centre for Tenants Ontario, or ACTO, is well positioned to understand the need for fee waivers. As I just mentioned, it is a group that works to better the housing situation of Ontario residents who have low incomes by delivering the Tenant Duty Counsel Program.
This past Thursday, the Advocacy Centre for Tenants Ontario came out in support of our proposed legislation. Tracy Heffernan, an ACTO staff lawyer, said, “Tenants living on low incomes have the same rights as other tenants, but the fees required by the Landlord and Tenant Board make it difficult for them to access justice.” She went on to say that if this bill were passed, “Tenants with limited financial means will finally be sure their issues will be heard.”
Mr. Speaker, I hope that all members recognize the benefits of the proposed legislation. I hope that, in the spirit of partnership and our mutual goal to improve co-op housing in this province, they will support this important bill. I say this because the bill we’re talking about today is about helping the people of Ontario, from all corners of the province.
Let me just give you some examples of the incredible co-ops found throughout Ontario. In Thunder Bay, Castlegreen Co-operative is home to about 400 residents. It is the first co-op in Thunder Bay and is really one of the first to operate in Canada. Castlegreen has a storied history. In the winter of 1975-76, when construction began, temperatures plunged to -40 centigrade and the snowfalls broke past records. Did that stop the dedicated group behind this project? Absolutely not. Despite the setbacks, the first members moved in during June of 1976.
Today, Castlegreen offers its members a whole host of services, including a community centre, a family garden plot, ice rinks, computer lab, bicycle and walking paths, and the Good Food Box program. Like so many other co-ops, it’s committed to a community atmosphere of participation, fairness, integrity, diversity and environmental sustainability. It is member-owned and self-governed.
To the east, the Seaway Valley Co-op Organization operates a group of six housing co-operatives. Located in the Belleville, Kingston and Brockville area, these co-ops offer a wide range of housing options, including houses, apartments and townhomes of various sizes. This network of co-operatives has helped create housing solutions for people with different needs across the St. Lawrence-Lake Ontario corridor. This is an area where economic confidence remains fragile.
In the west, Mary Campbell Housing Co-operative in London proudly calls itself “a caring community.” It’s found in the downtown, in the heart, of London. The co-op is comprised of three buildings that are within walking distance of shops, a farmers’ market, schools, theatre, restaurants, art galleries, parks, concert venues and libraries. Within its walls, it also features a children’s playground, a community room with kitchen, storage, bicycle rooms and much more.
In my own community of Brampton, we have a number of housing co-ops, including Chegoggin. This is a 120-unit co-op building and is located in downtown Brampton, right next to our GO station and just around the corner from our new Rose Theatre. This building features a mix of units, including some that are subsidized and some that are wheelchair-accessible units, and others that are for tenants with intellectual disabilities. Built in 1992 with provincial assistance, approximately 25% of the residents living there today are original members, and most of those who have left have gone on to buy their own home.
These co-ops all have some traits in common. They create communal spaces and experiences for their members, they foster collaboration and community, and they focus on health and sustainability.
The list of amazing co-ops around this province goes on and on, but it’s the residents of these co-ops that make such amazing places. The fact is that co-op housing helps us build communities we can all be proud of. That’s because members who live in a co-op are the ones responsible for running the co-op. Co-op residents don’t just live in a co-op. They help build the co-op community, a community where people live, work and play.
Mr. Speaker, co-op housing provides families across our province with secure and affordable housing. In fact, non-profit co-op housing has played a vital role in our affordable housing system for over 40 years. In Ontario, there are about 550 non-profit housing co-ops, and these co-ops provide affordable housing for 44,000 households, which represent about 125,000 Ontarians, including some of our most vulnerable citizens. The sector provides a home to families and individuals with a diverse range of backgrounds and incomes.
It provides homes for medium- to low-income families, new immigrants, seniors, people with disabilities and members of the aboriginal community. The diversity and community focus of co-op housing is what makes it unique and strengthens this province.
Mr. Speaker, we know that co-ops come in very different shapes and sizes, ranging from collections of townhouses and small buildings with a handful of units to large, apartment-style buildings with hundreds of units like mine in Brampton. What sets co-ops apart from private rental housing is that they are democratic communities where the residents make the decisions on how the co-op operates. Members, the board and staff each have responsibilities to the co-op.
There are four main characteristics to co-op housing. The first is affordability. Housing co-ops are member-owned and -controlled organizations. For example, the monthly housing charges are set by the members to cover the costs of running the co-op.
The second characteristic is governance. Setting the overall direction of the co-op is the job of the directors and the members of the co-op. Co-ops are democratically run, and each member has a vote. Members elect the board of directors, and they approve the annual budget and set policy.
The third characteristic of a co-op is security of tenure. A member’s right to live in the co-op is protected. Members can continue to live in a co-op as long as they follow the rules or bylaws of the co-op and pay their housing charge or rent on time.
The fourth characteristic of a co-op is community. Housing co-ops can also be strong communities where members actively participate in the business of the co-op. In addition to the standar