Manitoba Hansard — 31 October 2011 (Sitting 8, 40th Legislature, 1st Session)

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First Session - Fortieth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Daryl Reid Speaker Vol. LXIV No. 8 - 1:30 p.m., Monday, October 31, 2011 ISSN 0542-5492

MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Fortieth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLAN, Nancy, Hon. St. Vital NDP ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson NDP BJORNSON, Peter, Hon. Gimli NDP BRAUN, Erna Rossmere NDP BRIESE, Stuart Agassiz PC CALDWELL, Drew Brandon East NDP CHIEF, Kevin Point Douglas NDP CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan NDP CROTHERS, Deanne St.

James NDP CULLEN, Cliff Spruce Woods PC DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk NDP DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FRIESEN, Cameron Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Liberal GOERTZEN, Kelvin Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Cliff Emerson PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC HOWARD, Jennifer, Hon. Fort Rouge NDP IRVIN-ROSS, Kerri, Hon. Fort Richmond NDP JHA, Bidhu Radisson NDP KOSTYSHYN, Ron Swan River NDP LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. Dawson Trail NDP MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns NDP MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden PC MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor, Hon.

Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP McFADYEN, Hugh Fort Whyte PC MELNICK, Christine, Hon. Riel NDP MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East PC NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake NDP OSWALD, Theresa, Hon. Seine River NDP PEDERSEN, Blaine Midland PC PETTERSEN, Clarence Flin Flon NDP REID, Daryl, Hon. Transcona NDP ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Kewatinook NDP RONDEAU, Jim, Hon. Assiniboia NDP ROWAT, Leanne Riding Mountain PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron St. Paul PC SELBY, Erin, Hon. Southdale NDP SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo PC STRUTHERS, Stan, Hon.

Dauphin NDP SWAN, Andrew, Hon. Minto NDP TAILLIEU, Mavis Morris PC WHITEHEAD, Frank The Pas NDP WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WIGHT, Melanie Burrows NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC Kirkfield Park St. Norbert

221 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Monday, October 31, 2011 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Mr. Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the welfare and prosperit y of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom, and know it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS PETITIONS Coulter Bridge Mr.

Larry Maguire (Arthur- Virden): Yes, Mr. Speaker, I’d like to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. And these are the reasons: During the record fl ood of 2011, the increased volume of water flowing through the Souris River caused the Coulter bridge on Highway 251 to buckle and become unstable in late June. The Coulter bridge is used by agricultural producers, local businesses and area residents. It is especially important to the region’s multi -million- dollar oil industry. Motorists are now forced to use a lengthy detour on a gravel road not meant for heavy vehicle traffic.

The increased presence of industrial vehicles on this gravel road has created considerable safety concerns, especially for school buses. The detour also results in increased costs and lost time for motorists. The provincial government has indicated it has no plans to establish a temporary bridge, and construction of a new bridge i s expected to take several years.

We petition the Legislative Assembly as follows: To urge the Minister of Infrastructure and Transportation to recognize the serious safety concerns and adverse socio -economic impact caused by the loss of the Coulter bridge and to consider making it an urgent priority to restore traffic across the Souris River either by a temporary or a permanent bridge. And this petition is signed, Mr. Speaker, by G. Williams, V. Prince, M. Renwich, C. Cassils and many, many other Manitobans. Mr. Speaker: In accordance with our rule 132(6), when petitions are read they are deemed to be received by the House.

Cellular Phone Service in Southeastern Manitoba Mr. Cliff Graydon (Emerson): Mr. Speaker, I wish to present the following petitio n to the Legislative Assembly. And this is the background to this petition: During early October 2011, parts of southeastern Manitoba were hard hit by wildfires. Thanks to the swift action of provincial and municipal officials, including 27 different fire departments and countless volunteers, no lives were lost and property damage was limited.

However, the fight against the wildfires reinforced the shortcomings with the communications system in the region, specifically the gaps in cellular phone service. These gaps made it difficult to co -ordinate firefighting efforts and to notify people that they had to be evacuated. The situation also would have made it difficult for people to call for immediate medical assistance if it had been required. Local government, businesses and industries and area residents for years sought a solution to this very serious communications challenge.

We petition the Legislative Assembly as follows: To urge the appropriate provincial government departments to consider working with all stakeholders to develop a strategy to swiftly address the serious challenges posed by limited cellular phone service in southeastern Manitoba in order to ensure that people and property can be better protected in the future. And this petition is signed by M. Desjardins, M. O’Connor and L. Ciarall and many, many more fine Manitobans.

222 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 TABLING OF REPORTS Hon. Stan Struthers (Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Initiatives): It’s with pleasure that I offer to members the 2010 -2011 Annual Report of the Manitoba Horse Racing Commission. Hon. Peter Bjornson (Minister of Entrepreneur - ship, Training and Trade): I’m pleased to table the 2010-2011 Annual Report for the Department of Entrepreneurship, Training and Trade. Hon. Eric Robinson (Minister charged with the administration of The Communities Economic Development Fund Act): Mr.

Speaker, I’m pleased to present the 2010 Annual Report of the Communities Economic Development Fund. Introduction of Guests Mr. Speaker: Prior to oral questions, I wish to draw the honourable members’ attention to the loge to my left; we have Mr. Jim Downey, former member for the constituency of Arthur -Virden. And the loge to my right, we have Mr. Doug Martindale, the honourable former member for Burrows. We’d like to we lcome you on behalf of the members assembled. ORAL QUESTIONS Homicide Rate Increase Reduction Strategies Mr.

Hugh McFadyen (Leader of the Official Opposition): As Winnipeggers know, this was a weekend of violence in our capital city once again, with two p eople who were shot to death, a stabbing and other shootings. We’ve now tied the all -time record of 34 murders in one year, which was set just seven years ago in 2004. I want to ask the Premier if they’ll acknowledge this government’s failure on the issu e of public safety to date and indicate what plans he has to ensure that this shameful blight does not continue to exist in our capital city of Winnipeg. Hon. Greg Selinger (Premier): Mr.

Speaker, there’s no doubt that any murder in Winnipeg is one murder too many, any murder in Manitoba is one murder too many. And as to the solutions, we are the ones that promised 100 more police officers at the community level on the street working with people to prevent crime and to detect crimes before they happen, including violent crimes–50 in Winnipeg, 50 outside of Winnipeg–and we will follow through on that commitment. That is a practical commitment grounded in a form of policing that can detect crimes before they happen. Role of Attorney General Mr. McFadyen: Mr.

Speaker, the reality is that they’ve had 12 years to tackle the problem and we’re on track this year to set a record for the most murders of any year in our province’s history. This is after 12 years of NDP government and 12 years of annual promises just like the one that the Premier’s just referred to. Mr. Speaker, Professor Linden is quoted in today’s Free Press as saying, until someone is put in charge of crime control with a budget, staff and a plan, we’ll continue to have crimes like this. Until now, we believed that someone was the Attorney General of Manitoba.

I want to ask the Premier: If it’s not, what exactly does the Attorney General do? Mr. Selinger: Mr.

Speaker, Professor Linden has made a very significant contribution to reducing crime in Manitoba with the Auto Theft Suppression Strategy which he was a part of and has done an evaluation of and identifies it as the most successful in the country. * (13:40) Professor Rick Linden also is the chair of our Manitoba police commission, whic h is a new instrument to provide additional civilian oversight to policing and also to provide training opportunities for community policing and other forms of policing which will increase the effectiveness of the 261 additional officers which we have funded over the last 12 years, 261 officers which have made a difference at the community level, 261 officers which the members opposite have voted against allocating resources for every single one of those officers.

Mr. McFadyen: And, Mr. Speaker, we’re on t rack to set a new record for homicides under the watch of this government. And Professor Linden also says that we don’t have a master crime plan in place to tackle the myriad factors that are contributing to crime, and goes on to say, and I quote, that we live in a city that has a high crime rate, a city that has always had one of the top homicide rates, and we have no reasonable expectation this will change, if we keep doing the same things over and over again.

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 223 Mr. Speaker, they’ve had 12 years of doing t he same things over and over again. Can the Premier indicate whether he has confidence in his Attorney General who clearly is identified by Professor Linden as being part of the problem? Mr. Selinger: Mr. Speaker, our Attorney General, Mr.–Minister of Justice (Mr. Swan), appointed Professor Linden as the chair of the Manitoba police commission. That was a very –and also we’ve worked closely with Professor Linden in evaluating our successful programs.

Some of the differences that we have made is in over–just over seven years, the Gang Prosecutions Unit has achieved over 1,400 convictions –1,486–or guilty pleas, with 993 of those people convicted serving jail time. Our Integrated Organized Crime Task Force, which never existed before, has resulted, through Pr oject Divide alone, resulted in 170 years of sentences being handed down. And our safe neighbourhoods and communities act has–and we’ve promised an additional six officers there –have shut down 509 drug dens and prostitution houses in Winnipeg. All of those measures have made a very significant difference.

And when it comes to homicides in Manitoba, we will dedicate the same focused resources to that, that we have, to these other measures. And all of these measures make a long -term difference. Those are th e suppression measures. Those are the measures that put more police on the street, and there are other measures that we are taking to do prevention as well. It is very, very tragic. We have 34 homicides. We have to do more about it, and we will. Homicide Rate Increase Reduction Strategies Mrs. Heather Stefanson (Tuxedo) : Mr.

Speaker, Winnipeg is on track to set a new record for homicides under the watch of this NDP government. This past weekend alone, two people were shot to death, two more shootings took place, and a man was stabbed to death. This brings the total –the new total of 34 murders in one year, tied with their homicide record, their own homicide record from 2004. What is the minister’s plan to set this violent crime spree under control and get it under control, Mr. Speaker? Hon.

Andrew Swan (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): Certainly I think the sympathies of every person in this House go out to the families and the communities of which these individuals were members. The violence t hat’s taken place in our streets is unacceptable, and we have said that the people are entitled to be safe on their streets, in their homes, in their communities. That’s why we’ve continued to invest in police. I spoke to Chief McCaskill earlier today. H e’ll be speaking to the media at 3 o’clock to speak about these–that these tragic events –perhaps be able to shed some more light on it.

But we will not take our eye off the ball of continuing to support our police in the city of Winnipeg and, indeed, acr oss the province of Manitoba. We’ve added 261 more officers since 1999. We’ve committed, and we will follow through on adding 50 more beat cops, police officers, out in the streets of the very communities that need their assistance the most. We’ll be makin g that investment. As I’ve said before, we’ll see if the members opposite actually support that initiative and vote for the additional measures in the budget next spring. Mrs. Stefanson: Mr.

Speaker, of the 34 homicide victims this year, 11 were stabbed , 10 died from beatings, six were shot, five died in a fire, one was strangled, and one died of undisclosed causes. Clearly they don’t have a clue what they are doing. It’s been 12 years and things are getting worse, not better. What is their plan to sto p this? Or is it, in fact, that they don’t have a plan that’s the real problem here, Mr. Speaker? Mr. Swan: As the member opposite has pointed out by her recitation of those numbers, there is no single bullet. The police officers will tell you that; the Crown attorneys will tell you that.

What is important is making sure that we invest in our communities. But beyond that, of course, it’s making sure we have the right laws in place. And Manitoba, since 1999, has been a very, very strong advocate, whichever party may happen to be in power in Ottawa, to make sure the right laws are in place.

And with respect to gun crimes, of course, it’s thanks to Manitoba, thanks to my predecessors, to my department, that the federal government has actually cracked down on gun crimes, making it harder for people who commit crimes with guns to get bail so they’re not out on the streets, to increase sentences for smuggling firearms, to make gang- related

224 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 homicides first -degree murder and creating further offences. We’ve done o ur part, as the Province of Manitoba, to move the national agenda. We know within our province there are other things we can do, things like The Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Act has been amended to make sure there’s a house that’s being used for de aling in guns, smuggling drugs–that is something that can result in the Public Safety Investigation Unit moving in. That is

an act that has been used over 500 times to make our— Mr. Speaker: Order. Mrs. Stefanson: Mr. Speaker, from June 1st to October 30th this year in Winnipeg, there were 14 homicides, 34 shootings, 85 sexual assaults, 39 stabbings. At what point is enough enough? Winnipeg has one of the worst track records in homicides in Canada, and the NDP seems to be content to sit back and pat thems elves on the back for a job well done. Well, how many more people have to die before this NDP government sees that there is a crime problem in this city and starts to do something about it? Mr. Swan : Well, Mr.

Speaker, the member for Tuxedo should be aware that Manitoba is recognized across the country as having one of the most robust and effective opportunities by provincial governments to make change. Of course, we don’t write the criminal law. We can influence how it’s changed, but we do things to take on gangs, to take on organized crime. Within our control, as a Province, we’ve done that. And that’s why I spoke about The Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Act, which actually empowers communities, like the one that I represent in the Legislature, to help make their streets safer.

So the member for Tuxedo should actually learn more about the positive things which are going on. I have said, earlier today and repeatedly, that violence in our communities is not acceptable. That’s why we support the police and we hope they will make arrests as soon as possible. Those individuals can be brought to justice. We know that, thanks to Manitoba, we have stronger criminal laws in this country, and the individuals responsible for this will be brought to justice. We think that’s important. We do that by supporting our police, by supporting our Crown attorneys.

We don’t do that by, as the members opposite would have, by slashing money out of front -line services, including policing, in the province of Manitoba. Coulter Bridge Replacement Priority and Funding Mr. Larry Maguire (Arthur- Virden): Mr. Speaker, in late June, waters on the Souris River, floodwaters on the Souris River caused the Coulter bridge over Highway 251 west of Waskada to collapse. The replacement o f this bridge obviously falls under Emergency Measures operations procedures where the federal government would cover 90 per cent of the cost.

Can the minister in charge of Emergency Measures operations inform area farmers, oil industry representatives, a nd local citizens whether he considers the Coulter bridge replacement to qualify for these EMO cost -shared funding and whether or not its replacement is a priority with his government? Hon. Steve Ashton (Minister responsible for Emergency Measures ): Well, Mr. Speaker, and I know the member’s raised this question before, and we’ve also had the opportunity to talk about this directly. We were impacted throughout the province in terms of our infrastructure this year.

There are a number of bridges that were i mpacted. Certainly, the Coulter area with Highway 251 has been significantly impacted. What we have done is we have already started to do the required engineering work. We are working on that as I speak. I know there was some interest in the area in putting a temporary bridge in. Unfortunately, given the engineering assessment, the wide span that’s involved, the causeway, and the fact that it would also have to carry very significant traffic, it would be vulnerable in the spring to further flood and ice conditions; it is not the recommended option.

But I can assure the member that we are committed to rebuilding our infrastructure, and, as we speak, our technical staff is working on a priority basis on the Highway 251 bridge. Mr. Maguire: Well, Mr. Speak er, local Waskada area citizens led by Shirley Kernaghan and Betty Miller, who are with us today in the gallery, led a rally near the bridge in mid-September. They wanted to inform the government of their concerns and frustration over the lack of response to replacing this

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 225 Coulter bridge, or at least the installation of a temporary bridge, even for light vehicles. With cars, school buses, and light vehicles interfacing with oil industry trucks and other heavy equipment on the dusty gravel detour, soon to be snow packed–snow and ice packed, will the minister of transport and Emergency Measure s operations inform these and other region users of the Highway 251 what procedures he and his department are undertaking to replace the bridge in an immediate time frame, Mr. Speaker? * (13:50) Mr. Ashton: Well, Mr.

Speaker, at the request of the member, I’ve arranged a meeting with the delegation, with the deputy minister, who will outline the engineering challenges. And I do want to stress, by the way, that when it comes to dealing with any of our bridges, whether it’s the Highway 251 bridge or any of the other bridges that were impacted, our first concern is to do the engineering assessment. Some bridges will have to be repaired, some will have to be replaced. That ’s the first step. I want to stress as well that just as we did after 2009–and you can talk to people in St.

Adolphe –our department, MIT, made it a priority to replace that bridge and we did what would normally take five years of work. We completed it earlier this spring and I want to commend the former minister of Infrastructure and Transportation who led that project. And just as we did it after 2009, we’re committed to doing that now. And I do want to stress again we’re still fighting the flood, and I hope the member will recognize the very great news what’s happening with the outlet from Lake St. Martin and the work that’s going to do in protecting Lake Manitoba– Mr. Speaker: Order, please. The Member’s– Mr.

Maguire: Mr. Speaker, it took Minneapoli s a year to replace a broken -down freeway that collapsed, so I would hope that this –we’d be able to fix this bridge in a shorter time frame. I and local citizens appreciate the minister’s concerns for the infrastructure shortfalls that he faces, and local citizens are aware of the ongoing revenue being received by the Manitoba government from the record oil industry activities in southwest Manitoba, particularly in the Waskada and Pearson areas with – that are well-established drilling locations, Mr. Speaker.

Industry representatives and local school boards have written the minister seeking the earliest possible replacement of this Highway 251 bridge, and it is used by local farmers to deliver grain to the only grain terminal in southwest Manitoba region at Elva. So for a safety concern particularly for the students and to help expand the growing regional industries helping all Manitobans, will the minister acknowledge this urgently needed bridge as an Emergency Measures operation -eligible structure and make it a priority to be replaced this winter or at least in 2012, Mr. Speaker? Mr. Ashton: Mr.

Speaker, I want to indicate that in addition to the situation at 251 bridge, we made a major investment in bridges across this province. When we came into office we were spending $5.6 million a year on bridges. This year it’s a $114.7 million. And that is over and above any of the replacements that will be funded in terms of disaster financial assistance. And I want to stress again, we’re fighting the flood. We’ve g ot huge success in terms of Lake Manitoba and Lake St. Martin. An historic project that would have taken years, Mr. Speaker, is almost ready for completion.

But, even as we’re fighting the flood, we’re working on the rebuilding. We’re doing the engineering work on this bridge. We’re aware of the inconvenience for residents of that area. We’re also very aware of the growing oil industry in this province, that’s why we’re committed to investing in transportation, investing in–into highways, and repairing these and other bridges that have impacted by the floods. Gardenton Floodway Dike Upgrade Requirements Mr. Dennis Smook (La Verendrye) : In 1997 and 2002, the dikes of the Gardenton Floodway were at risk of being breached by the high waters of the Roseau Rive r.

Backhoes, heavy equipment, helicopters hauling sandbags and air boats were used to shore up these dikes. This past spring after an inspection, the Gardenton Floodway was deemed unsafe. If a breach occurred it would have flooded Vita. At great cost, a te mporary secondary dike was built partially using heavy equipment and earth and the rest using tube dikes.

226 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 Mr. Speaker, will the minister responsible acknowledge that the Gardenton Floodway needs to be rebuilt? Hon. Steve Ashton (Minister of Infrastructur e and Transportation): Well, Mr. Speaker, I think the real story again here is the tremendous work that was done under very challenging circumstances in terms of not only this dike, but all across the province.

And I want to put on the record our appreciat ion as Manitobans for the work that was done by, not only the dedicated staff of MIT and the various other provincial departments that were working on this, but also the degree to which contractors and construction workers came together in very difficult circumstances. I also want to assure the member as well, Mr.

Speaker, as we are doing with our bridges, as we are doing with infrastructure across the province, we are not only committed to finishing some of the work that was begun in that period, and I s tress again, we’re still working in many areas of this province with flood protection. We’re also going to be looking very much at those structures in the go- forward situation. And just as we met the challenge this spring and summer, are meeting it in the fall, we’ll meet the challenge in terms of flood mitigation in the future in this province. Mr. Smook: Mr.

Speaker, the Gardenton Floodway is an important flood- control structure in southeastern Manitoba, but is really showing its age. Considerable money has been spent in recent years on temporary measures to prevent the floodway from failing, but more work is needed. Since the secondary dike has already been started, it would likely be more cost -effective to complete the work this fall rather than wait till next spring when the water levels could be high again. Mr. Speaker, will the minister responsible finish the secondary dike that was begun this spring, and what is the plan to repair the Gardenton Floodway? Mr.

Ashton : Well, Mr. Speaker, I realize the member’s a new member in this House, but I should explain perhaps some of the challenges with disaster financial assistance, with the lack of a national mitigation strategy. And I do want to indicate, by the way, we work very co-operatively with the federal government.

In fact, I’m looking forward to meeting with my counterparts, perhaps as early as this week, because in many situations we still have a situation with disaster financial assistance where it is more cost-effective for the provincial gove rnment to take down temporary works than to complete them and turn them into permanent works, because temporary works are covered under DFA, permanent works aren’t. I know our Premier (Mr. Selinger) has had significant discussions with the Prime Minister on that.

And we’re hoping that this year, following the experience that Manitoba–that the federal government, of course, with Vic Toews, who understands flooding and understands the impact in that area–that we can get a change in the way we deal with national mitigation to deal with DFA and make sure that we can complete, in many cases, permanent works that we’ve started as part of temporary flood protection, whether it’s this spring or any flood situation, Mr. Speaker. RM of Westbourne Flood Mitigation Strategies Mr. Stuart Briese (Agassiz): Mr.

Speaker, in the spring of 2011, the Rural Municipality of Westbourne’s infrastructure was once again overwhelmed by flooding. There were 200 roads and crossings either cut or washed out in the one municipality alone. School buses, farmers, ranche rs and other residents were all negatively impacted. This year marks the ninth time in 10 years that the RM of Westbourne has applied for disaster financial assistance due to flooding. Mr. Speaker, will the minister today commit to a long-term plan that will actually address the ongoing flooding problems in the RM of Westbourne? Hon.

Steve Ashton (Minister of Infrastructure and Transportation): Well, I thank the member for the question, and I acknowledge that he has rais ed issues and concerns to this RM and the –generally in the past. And I think it points again to what I said in response to the previous member, and that is we’re increasingly, in many areas of the province, seeing chronic flood situations.

We are, as I’v e said, we’ve did–we did a lot of work this spring and summer in terms of fighting the flood, but as we go forward, clearly, we will be looking at any and all opportunities to partner with the federal government to come up with long-term solutions. But in the short term, again, I want to stress the importance of disaster financial assistance. We have been there. We’re expecting a very significant

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 227 payout to Manitobans this year and certainly we will be there for that RM and for RMs across the province, of what has been probably the most geographically widespread flooding we’ve seen in Manitoba history, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Briese: Mr. Speaker, this is flooding nine out of the last 10 years. That sets a pretty predictable pattern and yet this government does nothing. Now I realize DFA is a pretty good deal for the province since the federal government covers 90 per cent of the costs.

But wouldn’t it make sense to do some preventative work to reduce future flooding and associated costs and disruptions? Would it not make sense to repair the provincial drainage system that is overwhelmed by sedimentation and vegetation? The Whitemud Conservation District in the RM of Westbourne know what needs to be done, yet, the Minister of Water Stewardship (Ms. Melnick) doesn’t listen to them. Mr. Speaker, when will the minister take some meaningful action on better managing drainage so that we can reduce the risk of future flooding? Mr. Ashton : Well, Mr.

Speaker, I think one of hallmarks of this government is taking pr oactive measures in terms of flooding. We built the floodway expansion–$650 million. One hundred and thirty million dollars to protect the communities in the Red River Valley. And, in fact, in the last two major floods, in 2009 and 2011, we saw, in fact, one home impacted in 2009 because of that degree of protection. And I would hope the member would put on the record acknowledgement of the tremendous work that’s been done to complete the Lake St.

Martin outlet, where, within a day or two of opening, something that’s going to have a huge impact protecting Lake Manitoba and Lake St. Martin. Shellmouth Dam Leaf Gate Construction Mrs. Leanne Rowat (Riding Mountain): In 2003, the Canada –Canada and Manitoba entered an agreement to address upstream damages and to undertake studies to assess the impacts associated with potential modification to the Shellmouth Dam.

To date, the ultimate purpose of the agreement, that being to improve water management on the Assiniboine River through installing leaf gates, has yet to be done. * (14:00) In February 2007, the SAVED communities, which include Binscarth, Roblin, Russell, the RM of Russell, the RM of Shellmouth -Boulton, the RM of Shell River and the RM of Silver Creek, wrote the Minister of Water Stewardship (Ms. Meln ick) about the leaf gate project. In the letter, SAVED encouraged the minister to move forward on the matter, noting that uncertainty and lack of communication were a concern. Mr.

Speaker, can the Minister of Water Stewardship explain why–what she is doing to make this work with those communities within the SAVED area–region to leaf –to get the leaf gate project done and to ensure stakeholders like these municipalities are actually treated fairly? Hon. Stan Struthers (Acting Minister of Water Stewardship): Our government has very clearly committed and has been working to make sure that the water that enters our province, the watershed that we all live amongst, that that water moves as quickly as it can from one end of the watershed right through to Hudson Bay where that water belongs. Mr.

Speaker, this government has made those commitments, whether it be at the Shellmouth or whether it be at the emergency channel near the Fairford area. What members opposite will continue to see is this government moving fo rward to making sure that all those projects get completed. Mrs. Rowat: Well, this government’s refusing to meet with this stakeholder group. Mr. Speaker, in November 2007, the SAVED communities wrote to then -minister responsible for Manitoba Hydro, the member for St. Boniface (Mr. Selinger), asking for a meeting to clarify about long-term upgrades being planned for the Shellmouth Dam.

That meeting never occurred. What is so essential when undertaking a major project like this is to ensure the stakehold ers, like SAVED and others, are included in the assessment phrase so local concerns can be addressed. There has been virtually no movement by this provincial government to move forward on the Shellmouth project, causing uncertainty and frustration within the region. We know the feds came through, Mr. Speaker; why didn’t the Province? The SAVED communities were prepared to work on the leaf gates as they did with the Shellmouth Dam in the 1960s.

228 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 Can the Minister of Water Stewardship (Ms. Melnick) explain why her government appears to be stalled and moving backwards on this project, Mr. Speaker? Mr. Struthers : Mr. Speaker, the member needs to be careful about the facts that she puts on the table.

Our minister of water ‘stewardshab’ –or Minister of Water St ewardship has indicated that she will be meeting with the producers in the area, that her – people from her department will, and they’ll begin talking about the impacts that, in this case, farmers have had in terms of the amount of water that has come down through that part of our province. So this government is moving forward. This government is maintaining its share of the responsibilities, and we’re doing our

part in making sure everything, from the Shellmouth right through the system, to move that water occurs. She’ll see that that is exactly what’s going to happen, Mr. Speaker. Mrs. Rowat: And I guess when the Minister of Water Stewardship actually meets with the group, we’ll be pleased to see that, Mr. Speaker, because she has a track record of ignoring rural Manitoba. Mr. Speaker, the SAVED communities were willing to support the leaf gate project.

They had formally stated in writing that they were cognizant of the need to enhance the flood protection water supply and inflow –in-stream flows to benefi t downstream residents. That was nearly five years ago. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Water Stewardship to share with the House what the timelines are for the leaf gates, and how is she going to ensure that the ‘stakehoser’–stakeholders involved will be heard, including the agriculture sector, the recreational sector and municipal stakeholders? Mr.

Struthers: Well, contrary to what we hear from members opposite, who really spend a lot of time defending their cousins in Ottawa instead of defending the farmers in the communities in their areas, Mr. Speaker, when the federal –[interjection] They don’t like to hear this, but when–[interjection] Mr. Speaker: Order, please. I’m having increasing difficulty hearing the answer to the question that was posed by the honourable member. The honourable Minister of Agriculture and Food has the floor. Mr. Struthers: I know they don’t like to hear this, Mr.

Speaker, but when the federal government actually pulled out of this project in the 2008- 2009 year, it was our government that stepped up, not the facts that members opposite put on the table. We stepped up when the feds pulled out. Our minister on this side of the House is committed to this project, as this government is. Our minister has moved forward with all–a number of different initiatives.

If they had paid attention in the Throne Speech, they’d have seen a surface water management commitment that we made that we will follow through on to help make sure that these problems don’t amass and that we’re not dealing with this in as big a way as we’ve had in the past, Mr. Speaker. This government is committed to making sure that this watershed water moves through our– Mr. Speaker: Order, please. Member’s time expired. Freight House Community Centre Funding Needs Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): This government continues to neglect inner Winnipeg while providing generous support elsewhere.

The NDP, for example, committed multi -millions of dollars to the Southdale Community Centre in 2007; and t he Dakota community centre in 2011 and yet have failed to deliver significant funding to the Freight House Community Centre in inner Winnipeg. Manitobans expect their government to provide youth in inner Winnipeg alternatives to street gangs. The upgrades to the Freight House Community Centre, which is also used by Rossbrook House, need provincial support.

I ask the Premier: Why has he focused so much community centre funding on Seine River and Southdale and so little funding on the Freight House Community Centre? Hon. Greg Selinger (Premier): Perhaps the member missed it but this spring we made a very significant announcement at the Univers ity of Winnipeg for a new fieldhouse and part of the understanding on the new fieldhouse is that that facility will be available to all the organizations and people and young people that live in the inner city. And fundamental to that project will–is its community-use component of it . So that’s $15 million we’ve committed.

The University of Winnipeg will finance the rem aining $15 million of it.

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 229 That field house will be available to all the peoples of the inner city; all the neighbourhoods. I know the member might have overlooked that. It was a very significant commitment.

One of many commitments we’ve made to the Univer sity of Winnipeg, who have a commitment, as the member knows, to increasing access to inner -city young people for post -secondary education, including a learning centre for people at the high school and junior high level to come to the University of Winnipeg and have an opportunity to experience new technology, see what post -secondary education opportunities there are available to them.

And, as a matter of fact, even as recently as this summer, in the middle of the flood disaster, additional programming wa s offered through the university to allow the people that were dislocated by the floods to have summer recreation and enrichment opportunities through the university, so we will continue to have support for the inner city. Gordon Bell High School Sport Field Update Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): It’s taken 12 years to get even this but the reality is that this government has neglected, time and time again, the facilities and the needs of inner Winnipeg.

You know, the Freight House Community Centre is one example. The field of dreams at Gordon Bell High School is another. The field of dreams should have been completed by now , to give Gordon Bell High School students a long overdue , adequate sports field. Why is there still an empty field instead of being a usable field for sports facilities? Hon. Greg Selinger (Premier): Mr. Speaker, The member asked about facilities in the inner city and in that part of Winnipeg. The North End Y was shut down when we came into office; it was shuttered.

It is now open and it’s flourishing because the investments we made, along with many other members of the community to get that facility up and running. And, he’s right. Gordon Bell never had a proper field for sport activities until this government came along and acqui red that piece of property from Canada Post. We’ve bought the property, it is available and it will be redeveloped. No government in this history of this province has ever moved with such alacrity to acquire a piece of property that will help the Gordon Bell students have proper recreation facilities. We will do that.

The property is under our control now. It is available to the Gordon Bell High School and it will be redeveloped. Recreation Facilities Inner-city Neighbourhoods Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heigh ts): Those who were involved in intense lobbying for many, many months will dispute the alacrity of this government. But, you know, the question is why, after a year when this Gordon Bell field of dreams was supposed to be completed by now, is it not completed?

Why is this government falling short in delivering a basic sports field to a high school when every new high school in this province has a fully funded sports field? * (14:10) The cost of dealing with gangs, the cost of dealing with crime, we’v e seen it again this weekend. And high school dropout rates in inner Winnipeg is going up and up and up because this Premier’s response is slow and is inadequate. Sports programs in inner Winnipeg need support. The Freight House Community Centre has not got it in 12 years; the field of dreams is still empty.

I ask the Premier: Why has he not delivered on the Freight House Community Centre, community centre facilities and the field of dreams facilities? Why is he stalling and stalling for 12 years? Hon. Greg Selinger (Premier): Mr. Speaker, I just want to identify some other facilities that we funded: the Manitoba Sports Federation, which has moved its facilities down into the inner city in the Exchange District on the east side.

We funded a major expansion of that facility there for not only high sport–or high- end sport training, but for everybody to come there and have training opportunities with a great variety of sports. So, we’ve done Lighthouse projects all over the inner city, 70 Lighthouse project s throughout Manitoba. We fund Rossbrook House. We fund Andrews Street family resource centre. We fund the Winnipeg Aboriginal Sports Achievement Centre. We fund the Boys and Girls Clubs. We’ve made recreational directors available to the inner city and located them in inner -city neighbourhoods.

All of these are commitments that have–we have made to improve recreation, and we will do more of that. We have the After School Matters program which we committed to in the election.

230 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 And I have to remind the member again: he has voted against every one of these initiatives over the last 12 years and now he pretends to be a friend of the inner city. That’s not good enough. Community Led Emissions Reduction Program Update Mr. Matt Wiebe (Concordia): Mr. Speaker, a s we move into late fall here in Manitoba and the cold weather is setting in, many of us are reminded of the importance of having a warm place to work, live and learn.

I understand that the Minister of Local Government was recently at Providence Universi ty College to flip the switch on a biomass furnace that will not only heat student residences and classrooms but will do so in a manner that will reduce carbon monoxide emissions in Manitoba. I would ask the minister to share with this Chamber and the public how this and other projects under the Community Led Emissions Reduction program are having a positive impact in our communities. Hon. Ron Lemieux (Minister of Local Government): Well, Mr.

Speaker, I’d like to thank the honourable member for Concordia for an important question. I was pleased to attend the announcement on Friday at Providence College dealing with the new biomass heating unit that was just opened, and it was a tremendous partnership between the private sector and the Province of Manitoba under Community Led Emissions Reductions program. And, Mr. Speaker, I’d just like to inform the House that by this –by using this new heating unit, there’ll be 180 tonnes of greenhouse gases per year removed as well as a $50,000 savings by the college, instead of using gas, by using this biomass.

So again, we partner with southern Manitoba and many organizations, Mr. Speaker, including communities like Notre Dame de Lourdes, Brandon, Thompson, Taché municipality and many others who are really trying to make a difference to this province, as opposed to the grim reapers opposite. Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Mr. Speaker: I want to caution all honourable members to pick and choose their words very carefully, please. Delta Marsh Field Station Flood Mitigation Strategies Mr. Ian Wishart (Portage la Prairie): Mr.

Speaker, the University of Manitoba’s Delta Marsh Field Station is a very important research and teaching facility. Last week, the Minister of Water Stewardship (Ms. Melnick) mentioned how criti cal the field station is in monitoring both Lake Manitoba and the Delta Marsh. The field station has had to be evacuated this year due to flooding. Mr. Speaker, is the Minister of Water Stewardship aware that no steps have been taken to protect the field station against further ravages from Lake Manitoba, either in fall storms or the spring ice? Hon.

Steve Ashton (Acting Minister of Water Stewardship): Well, first of all, Mr. Speaker, I hope the member would acknowledge that the construction of a hundred-million-dollar channel that is going to allow us to operate the Fairford diversion can and will have a very significant impact all around Lake Manitoba, including at Delta Marsh, and I think that should be put on the record.

I also want to stress again, and as, I think, as the Minister of Water Stewardship pointed out and certainly at the briefing we held this morning with the member and other members opposite, that we are also–clearly recognize over the next period of time some of the significant challen ges in terms of flood recovery.

Certainly, in and around Lake Manitoba, there are very significant challenges, although I do want to indicate, thanks to the channel, which is going to make a difference over the winter, and the fact that we’ve had favourabl e weather conditions, the fact that we’re now at 814.5 feet elevation in terms of the level of the lake is going to assist. But I do want to assure the member that we are not only at the –fighting the flood, but we are also doing–dealing very significantl y on plans for recovery, and indeed this will be part of the recovery, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Wishart: Mr.

Speaker, on many occasions the Minister of Water Stewardship has spoken very favourably about the work done at Delta Marsh Field Station. Her government r epeatedly touts its commitment to wetland research and restoration, however, I find it ironic that this important research facility could be placed in jeopardy during a future storm or due to ice heaving or flooding.

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 231 Mr. Speaker, is the minister prepared to work with the University of Manitoba to make sure that this valuable site is not permanently lost as a resource to Manitobans? Mr. Ashton : Well, definitely, we’re committed to that, but I do want to stress, again, that we’re still fighting the flood. We have 700 Manitobans that are still away from their homes. We have entire communities that have been either fully or significantly evacuated.

And I want to stress again that over the next period of time, even as we continue to work, by the way, because even with the completion of the channel and the opening of the channel, we’re going to continue to work to protect the Dauphin River community. But we’re still fighting the flood, and there will be Manitobans who will be impacted well into next year. So I certainly appreciate the member’s question. And, certainly, this is a priority for us.

But we also have a priority to work, to get those 700 Manitobans back, to clean up the affected areas, to rebuild the infrastructure and get back to normal for many Manitobans who’ve been impacted very negatively by the flood, Mr. Speaker. Shoal Lakes Long-Term Water Level Management Mr. Ralph Eichler (Lakeside): For a decade now, this government has known that the Shoal lakes - Interlake is a problem.

In fact, in 2001, the former member from Lakeside, our leader and myself, and a number of members on this side of the House have asked the ministers time and time again what the long-term plan is in regards to the Shoal Lake. We know from time to time that waters rise and w aters recede, but the waters continue to rise in the Shoal lakes. I’d like to ask the minister responsible: What is the long- term plan? When will you do something with the Shoal lakes to draw it down in a timely manner so these people can get back to thei r daily lives? Hon.

Stan Struthers (Minister of Agriculture, Food and Rural Initiatives): Well, I think something that my friend from Lakeside is –would probably acknowledge is how quick we have moved, whether it be the Shoal lakes, or other parts of Lake Manitoba, or Hoop and Holler, or wherever you happen to live in Manitoba and have been negatively impacted by the unprecedented amount of water that we’ve had this year.

Whether you’re talking about long- term planning and action that this government has taken, like the channel and other projects, or whether you’re talking about compensation plans that are designed to meet the needs of farmers –I’m told that somewhere in the area of 56 people have approached our officials in terms of a buyout in the Shoal Lake area. And folks from the Department of Agriculture, Food, Rural Initiatives have worked with those people to make sure that the best possible package can be put forward.

And that, of course, is part of the long-term approach that we have to have in pl ace so that these folks can get back to as normal a living as they possibly can, Mr. Speaker. We’re committed to working with them to do that. Mr. Speaker: Time for oral questions has expired. MEMBERS' STATEMENTS Mossey River Growing Project Mr. Ron Kosty shyn (Swan River): Mr. Speaker, I rise today to recognize the Mossey River Growing Project in efforts in a fight to end hunger around the world.

Located along No. 20 Highway, in the RM of Mossey River, just north of the hamlet of Fork River, the project is a testament to the generosity of our province’s producers. For the past 12 years, local farmers in the agribusiness have worked together to grow crops for donations to the Canadian Foodgrains Bank. The project started in 2000, harnessing the energy and the resources of the local farmers to provide food and donations for the hungry in developing worlds. The start of –the 40 acres they started has now grown to 70 acres thanks to donations of the Warkentin family.

Input supplies are provided by agribusinesse s or purchased with donation funds, and the RM of Mossey River forgives the land taxes on the property. From seeding straight through to harvest, all equipment, time, fuel are donated. With the cost of growing the crop of approximately $150 an acre, and having this covered, means approximately that 95 per cent of the crop that is grown is available for donations. The dedication of the project volunteers is simply amazing.

The past year’s crop was canola and, in spite of the difficult growing conditions, the crop yield well and will provide $19,250 worth of proceeds to the Canadian Foodgrains Bank. The Canadian Foodgrains Bank works to end hunger in developing countries and, in the past, have provided $38 million of relief in 35 different countries,

232 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 affecting 2.3 million people. With a match of 4 to 1, funds from the Canadian international developing agencies and the donation from the Mossey River Growing Project will go far in fighting against hunger. It isn’t all work, though. Every year at harvest time a big barbeque and a raffle for the community is held. Supper is provided by local businesses, and all the proceeds go to charity. I had the pleasure of attending this year’s barbeque and had a great time.

I can tell you that I look forward to next year’s e vent and to hearing from more from the group in the future. Mr. Speaker, the Mossey River Growing Project would not be a success without countless amount of volunteers– Mr. Speaker: Order. The honourable member for Charleswood. Breast Cancer Awareness Month Mrs. Myrna Driedger (Charleswood): Mr. Speaker, October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, so it gives me great pleasure to discuss the significance of this event and to take a moment to honour the courageous individuals who every day continue to struggle with disease.

This year in Canada, 23,400 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer, of which approximately 5,100 will die. Further, of the estimated 190 men that will also be diagnosed, 55 will die. These startling figures represent not only breast cancer patients but also a tremendous support network of friends and family whose contribution to fighting this disease is immeasurable. It is our duty as MLAs to build upon our commitment to this cause, not just in speech but in our actions. We must ens ure Manitobans receive the best care possible.

That is why I proposed Bill 205 to ensure all mammography machines used in Manitoba have proper accreditation. I’m extremely pleased that Bill 205 passed with the unanimous consent of all honourable members. B ut we cannot stop the fight now. Despite vast improvements in cancer research and treatment there is still a long way to go in order to find a cure. Breast cancer, along with all other forms of cancer, requires specific attention to ensure continued medi cal progress. Fortunately, although rates of diagnosis have been going up in the last few decades, the rate of death among patients has been decreasing.

The Canadian Cancer Society has done great work in educating the public about breast cancer and with working to find a cure by sponsoring many research initiatives. I would also like to extend my thanks to the Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation and to the thousands of participants who took

part in Winnipeg’s Run for the Cure. Participants across Canada raised $30 million, which will go a long way to helping find a cure. Mr. Speaker, I would like to reiterate the importance of active engagement in Breast Cancer Awareness Month, as it is the most frequently diagnosed cancer among women. The courage and resolve shown by these women is an inspiration to all, and they deserve our very best efforts to support them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. National Foster Family Week Mr. Frank Whitehead (The Pas): Mr.

Speaker, earlier this month Canadians celebrated national forest family week –Foster Family Week –sorry–a time to recognize foster families and their dedication toward children and communities. In Manitoba we believe that foster families are the foundation of the child welfare system. I know many foster parents in my constituency will contribute every day to the well-being of our children and youth. Many of these children go on to serve their communities as volunteers, growing up to be loving, responsible parents themselves. Florence and Johnny Constant raised such a family.

They were married in 1967 and started taking in foster children soon after. Over the years they have cared for more than 60 boys and girls, fed them, housed them, clothed them and loved them. They opened their homes and their hearts to these c hildren with complex needs, helping them overcome challenges and celebrating their strengths. Florence has 13 siblings of her own and was happy to have a large family at that time. She made every child feel welcome, and her older children proudly accepte d newcomers as their brothers and sisters.

Whether early placements are for a few days or many years, the patience and generosity shown by families like theirs is truly remarkable. Though Florence and John have recently retired as foster parents their sons and daughters continue to work to make sure local children receive the best possible care.

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 233 In Manitoba, we take a team approach to protecting our children; a task that forms the basis for a caring and safe society. With input from the Children’s Advocat e, we recently launched a plain-language website that breaks down some of the barriers that foster parents have struggled with in the past. It is called Helping Keep Kids Safe , and there we answer questions from both experience and would-be foster parents. We have also secured a 1 per cent increase to the foster rates again this year to further support the essential services these families provide.

We are working on a province -wide foster care curriculum, as well as a mentorship program and enhanced trai ning for foster parents which will be available next year. We want not only to support foster families, but to express our gratitude for the heroism they show every day. All across the country, people have been gathering to thank foster families, and I would like to add– Mr. Speaker: Honourable member for St. Paul. Andrew Chudley Mr. Ron Schuler ( St. Paul): Mr.

Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to rise today to acknowledge my constituent, Andrew Chudley, who’s been selected for the legislative page program this year. Andrew is the fourth student to be selected from Springfield and St. Paul to serve the Manitoba Legislature as a page. He joins pages from the past Laura Collins, 2006-2007, Hugh Crawley, 2006- 2007 and Blake Zawanda, 2002-2003. Andrew is cu rrently a grade 12 student at Collège Pierre -Elliott-Trudeau in Transcona.

He began his French immersion training in École Dugald School in Springfield, and is one of many students who’s benefitted greatly from the continuing partnership between these two school divisions. This contiguous relationship was forged through the efforts of many of my constituents, one of whom, in fact, happens to be Jennifer Chudley, Andrew’s mom. Andrew is a very accomplished and well-rounded young man. He is a member and provincial representative of the UNESCO pilot committee and is involved in clubs promoting French language, as well as his high school’s student council.

Andrew is also well-travelled, having visited Santa Cruz, Bolivia, to volunteer at Stansberry’s Children’s Home and Daycare there, and attend a human rights conference at the UN Headquarters in New York City. He is the recipient of citizenship and municipality of Springfield community service awards, and has received the highest mark in many of his classes. But, Mr. Speaker, it is not only his political and social activism and French language promotion that is so impressive. Andrew’s passion for music – especially drumming –has yielded many exciting opportunities for him.

He has played percussion with the Winnipe g Symphony Orchestra and the Winnipeg Wind Ensemble multiple times, and has been chosen to play in Manitoba H onour Bands. Andrew has —Andrew was the recipient of a scholarship that I instituted to a summer school band camp at Vincent Massey High School, an d has received the Collège Pierre- Elliott-Trudeau’s outstanding musician award for the past three years. Andrew utilizes his musical talents to give back to the community, not only through music playing, but also through his drum teaching at Rage Music.

He works on his school radio at lunch, and is extremely passionate about playing the drums and discovering new music. As the MLA for the new constituency of St. Paul, I am pleased to welcome and congratulate Andrew on being selected for the Manitoba Legislative Page Program, and am very proud that he is a member of the St. Paul constituency. When I look at young individuals like Andrew, who are hard-working, kind and generous and successful, I am encouraged that the future of our communities– Mr. Speaker: Th e honourable member for Tyndall Park. Localized Improvement Fund for Tomorrow Program Mr.

Ted Marcelino (Tyndall Park): Mr. Speaker, as a –an MLA -elect earlier this month, I attended a community consultation meeting for the Weston LIFT program at Cecil Rh odes School. LIFT stands for Localized Improvement Fund for Tomorrow, and it is a new initiative coming out of our celebrated Neighbourhoods Alive! program, which now provides core funding to organizations in 20 neighbourhoods across the province doing community development work. These organizations are tasked with working directly with area residents to develop priorities and plans for the neighbourhood and find solutions to challenges together.

Across the province, this work has resulted in housing programs, community gardening initiatives, programs for youth and families, safety organizing

234 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 and initiatives that support community economic development. Indeed, through Neighbourhoods Alive!, we are supporting communities to become more self -reliant, healthier and safer places to live and raise a family. * (14:30) I would like to thank those who attended the meeting, which included residents, representatives of local organizations like the Explorer’s Children’s Centre, St.

Thomas Anglican Church, Weston Seniors Club, Salvation Army church and child- care centre, and Weston Memorial Community Centre, and the government representatives from the Province of Manitoba and the City of Winnipeg. Engaging in community development can be hard work. We bring passion and commitment to the table and the issues we face are often very serious. But they know that working together is the best and the only way to move forward, and that our combined strengths will ensure our success. I look forward to reporting back to this H ouse Weston’s accomplishments with the support of the LIFT program.

ORDERS OF THE DAY GOVERNMENT BUSINESS THRONE SPEECH (Seventh Day of Debate) Mr. Speaker: On the proposed motion of the honourable member for St. James (Ms. Crothers), THAT the following address be presented to His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor: We, the members of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, thank Your Honour for the gracious speech addressed to us in this First Session of the Fortieth Legislature of Manitoba, and the amendment thereto, standing in the honourable –name of the honourable member for Tuxedo who has 27 minutes remaining. Mrs. Heather Stefanson (Tuxedo): As I was saying on Friday, Mr.

Speaker, I wanted to welcome you to your position which I did. I welcomed the new pages to the Legislature and the table officers back, and I wanted to–I unfortunately ran out of time at the time, but there a few other people that I want to recognize and thank. I’d also like to thank Hansard and translation services, and all of those people in the Chamber who also help us on a day -to-day basis to –for us to be able to debate and so on in this Chamber, Mr. Speaker. So I’d like to thank all of those people too.

And I also wanted to take this opportunity to welcome all the new members to the Chamber on both sides of the House. We’ve heard some great opening addresses from many of the newcomers, and I look forward to getting to know all of them a little better throughout the course of the next four years that we’ll be in the Chamber togeth er, Mr. Speaker. So, again, welcome to all of the new members. Also welcome back to all of the –I don’t like to say old members, but to more seasoned members of the Manitoba Legislature, and so welcome back to everyone here. Mr.

Speaker, of course, we hav e just come through a general election in Manitoba and, with that, I do want to take a few moments of my time, with your indulgence, Sir, to thank those members of the people in Tuxedo for re -electing me into the Manitoba Legislature. It’s indeed an honour , and I find it very humbling to be here and to be selected by them to be back here in the Manitoba Legislature.

So I am deeply grateful and forever humbled by the incredible generosity by all those people in Tuxedo who supported me in the last election, and I’m proud to be a part of the constituency that represents so many hard -working and caring individuals from a diversity of backgrounds in our area. And I know from time to time, Mr. Speaker, we, in Tuxedo, get criticized and–for who we are and what we stand for, and I think it’s really unfortunate.

All I can say is –to those people –is that they don’t really know us very well, and I’d like to personally invite those people to come out for a visit to Tuxedo sometime and see what a beautiful part of our ci ty it is and how gorgeous and supportive the people are in our community. The beauty of our parks, our golf course, the community centres, the businesses that keep our community thriving and growing, there is so much to celebrate in Tuxedo and it’s indeed an honour for me to be a part of this incredibly vibrant community. Mr.

Speaker, I also want to take a few moments just to thank my campaign team, of course, without whom I would not be here today. As we all know, it’s the volunteers and our campaign teams that work endlessly and effortlessly to ensure that our campaigns run as smoothly as they can, and we are just one small part of that. And so, indeed, I just want to thank all of the people who helped out on my

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 235 campaign, and there are a few people that I would like to single out. I want to thank my campaign team, again, without whom I would not be here today. In particular, I want to thank Jillian Currie, my amazing office manager, who knows me better than, perhaps, I know myself sometimes and calls a spade a spade and lets me know exactly what she’s thinking, which is great. I just want to thank her for all of her hard work and dedication in this –in the past election campaign. I want to thank my campaign manager, Michael Diamond, who worked tirelessly , Mr.

Speaker, day in and day out to ensure that the only junk food brought into our office was in little packages marked with 100 calories or less on them, to ensure that I didn’t over indulge and –as we know how this can happen during campaigns. But, seriously, to Michael, he was a tremendous asset to our team, and I want to thank him so much for being there for me in this election. To Trevor Sprague, my official agent, who, perhaps reluctantly, Mr. Speaker, took on the role of official agent and is proba bly even more reluctant to maybe take that on the next time around.

But, in all seriousness, I want to thank Trevor for being there for me and for being such an integral part of our campaign. To Lori Shenkarow, our volunteer co- ordinator, thank you for al l of your help, Lori, and for sticking it out with me to the very end. I know it was a very difficult time for Lori personally, Mr. Speaker. Her mother was –became quite ill during the campaign and, ultimately, ended up passing away. And to Lori, words cannot express enough how much your help means to me, especially during such a difficult time in your family life.

To Linda Radcliffe, who came into the office every day and helped with data entry. It was always so great to see her smiling face in the office when I came in from canvassing. And to her husband, Michael, a former Cabinet minister, Michael Radcliffe, who came canvassing with me several times, I just want to thank him as well, Mr. Speaker. To Ken Mason and Jim Moore, who have helped out on every campaign since the beginning, thank you so much for being there for me. To Immanuella Opperman n, who, every day I came into the office, Mr.

Speaker, she was diligently there working on the phones, calling and calling and calling. And it was every single day that she was in there making those phone calls. And so I just want to thank her so much. It’s people like Immanuella that really make a campaign work and that –it’s all those jobs that everyone works together, and she just did such an incredible job in this campaign. To Tracey M aconachie, my election day co - ordinator for all of my elections, she was back with me again and it was great to have her involved.

Tracy and I started off with–when we first worked in my first by -election in 2000, and neither one of us had kids then. And so we’ve had a chance, throughout the course of the elections over the years, to watch our kids grow in each election. And each time they would be taking on a few more tasks during the course of the election. And now, Mr. Speaker, they are ready to run, I believe, their own election campaigns. They may be young, but they have a great deal of experience. And those are the things that are great; it’s great to have our children and our families involved as they are in the campaigns.

To all my canvassers and phoners and election day helpers, to all our donors, and importantly, to our friends, Mr. Speaker, our friends who, at the end of the day, never lose sight of who we are and make sure we never lose sight of why we’re doing this. Thank you for keeping it all very real for me. To the grade 11 students from St. Paul’s High School who volunteered their time on my campaign, thank you for bringing your debating skills to the doors with me. I learned a lot from them, Mr. Speaker. To the grade 9 students from SJR, thank you for your interest in my campaign and good luck on all your projects.

And thanks again for all your help. Many of them went door knocking with me, stuffed envelopes, did all sorts of things, and it was just great to have so many young people involved in our campaign, Mr. Speaker. * (14:40) And, certainly, last but definitely not least, a thanks, a special thanks to my family. We all know how much families contribute to our lives here in the Legislature. My husband, Jason, travels a lot with his job and–but he was able to take most of the campaign off to be with me and the children and help out on my campaign. So I want to thank him for that, Mr. Speaker.

To Victoria and my Tommy –and

236 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 Tommy, my two children: You were born i nto this, and perhaps it would not be your first choice in life, but I hope one day you are able to look back and recognize the importance of giving back to your community and standing up for what you believe in because these are the things I think that we all, in this Chamber, strive to achieve to teach our children and our grandchildren, the importance of living in a free and democratic society. Mr. Speaker, I believe we are so incredibly lucky to live in such a free and democratic society.

With the right to vote for whomever we choose. This is a rare thing in the world we live and I think we often take it for granted. And I especially want to thank, to single out all those people who fought hard and died for us in order to protect our way of life and give us that very right to vote. I’m extremely disappointed in the people who chose not to vote in this election. For whatever reason: they may have not liked anything they heard from any of the political parties, they may have been too busy, they may have had other things going on.

But I think it’s important for all of us to exercise our democratic right in this free and democratic society and I hope that, and certainly I believe that there are many people who are waiting in our communities to earn that right to vote, who want to be new Canadian citizens. And I think we owe it to them to show how proud we are to live in a free and democratic society with that right to vote. I’m–hopefully we can all work together on both sides of this House to bring forward this issue.

The issue of this campaign where there were a number of people who didn’t get out and vote and I’m hoping that we can all work together to ensure that we instill in our children and our grandchildren and help them remember how lucky we are to l ive in this free and democratic society. And I hope we can all work together towards ensuring that more people get out and vote in the next general election. So, Mr. Speaker, with that, again, I just want to thank all of those people that helped out on my election campaign.

To all the people in Tuxedo: I really look forward to working with all of you over the course of the next four years and ensuring that we bring forward all of your issues and concerns into this Chamber for debate. The Throne Speech, Mr . Speaker. The reason that we’re here to debate today.

This is my 12th Throne Speech, and, unfortunately, I have to say that, of course, we are technically voting, or we are debating the amendment right now which I am in favour of and I hope all members in the Manitoba Legislature will join with me in –and the Leader of the Opposition and members on this side of the House to support our amendments because I think they are very good amendments to this Throne Speech. But, unfortunately, I have to, I have to le t everyone know, that I will for the 12th year be unable to vote in favour of the Throne Speech.

Unfortunately, I don’t see a lot of vision and hope for the future in Manitoba and, of course, that’s why we’re here, to debate, and that’s why we’re here to talk about this and to bring our own views forward and to ensure that. And I just don’t believe that this Throne Speech accurately reflects the values of people in my community and provides –I don’t believe it really provides them with any hope for the future in this province. I think there could have been a lot more, Mr. Speaker. I think the Throne Speech was actually tired and out of touch with the people who just elected them into government.

I don’t think that people voted for higher taxes and more debt . I don’t think that people voted for the title of the violent crime capital of Canada. I don’t believe that that’s why they elected this NDP government in. I don’t believe they voted for prisoners to be accidentally released from jail. I don’t think they voted for thousands of warrants to be deleted from the criminal database and I don’t believe that the policies that are causing our most vulnerable in society, our children, to fall through the cracks and die. I don’t believe that that’s what the people of Manitoba voted for, Mr. Speaker.

I also don’t believe that they voted for Winnipeg to be one of the worst–to have one of the worst track records in homicides in Canada, and, I –you know, this is a track record that they have brought forward under this NDP government. The –they have – actually, they’re on track to beat their own record, which was 34 homicides back in 2004. We’ve already reached that and we’re surpassing it; there are still two months left of this –of the year, and I think it’s unfortunate. I don’t think that Manitobans voted to be the violent crime capital of Canada. So, Mr.

Speaker, I don’t believe they voted for people to wait for 34 hours in a waiting room to–in a hospital to die. I don’t believe that Manitobans voted for poor management in flood water predictions, Mr. Speaker. They didn’t vote for increased red tape in order to make it difficult to claim for flood compensation.

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 237 I don’t believe, Mr. Speaker, that the –the people didn’t vote for a government who ignores agriculture and rur al development, not even mentioned–this is not even mentioned in the Throne Speech. I don’t believe they voted for increasing funding to health -care bureaucracy over front -line services, Mr. Speaker, which has been something that this NDP government has been doing for the last 12 years.

More money for health care has been their common theme, more money but the money is going into the bureaucracy and not into the front -line services for the care for the people that really need it. Mr. Speaker, I don’t be lieve that Manitobans voted for increasing wait times for diagnostic services. I don’t believe that they voted for the lowest graduation rate in the country, Mr. Speaker. It’s extremely unfortunate. Mr. Speaker, I don’t believe they voted for the designation of our province as the poverty capital of Canada.

I mean, this is a government that claims to be there to –this claim–they claim that this is one of their raisons d’être here, but yet we continue to be the poverty capital of Canada. So clearly things are going in the wrong direction. I don’t believe Manitobans voted for a government who thinks it’s okay to live in conditions infested in bedbugs in the very homes that they live in in Manitoba, Mr. Speaker, and that is a very serious issue.

Door to door, we found that going into our Manitoba housing complexes in all of our –many of our communities, there is one thing I’ve heard for years, and I have yet to see any real solution to that problem from this government. And I don’t believe that people voted for the crumbling infrastructure that we have in the province of Manitoba, our roads and highways and so on, Mr. Speaker. It’s been 12 long years and, unfortunately, this government is tired, out of ideas. They had an electorate that voted them in as –for government, but I don’t believe that they were voted in.

There’s many things that Manitobans, I don’t believe, voted for. And I think that, Mr. Speaker, I could go on, but I think, as a province, we can do better, and we can be better than what is offered by this NDP government in this Throne Speech. It’s time that this NDP government start living up to their promises. We have seen and heard so many promises over the last 12 years since they came into government. There’s press release after press release after press release, and yet, what we don’t see is a lot of results from –and action as a result of those press releases.

Some of those press releases are often re- announcements of things that were announced five, 10 years ago. And, unfortunately, after 12 years, we’ve heard a lot about this government plans to spend, how much money they’re putting into various programs, but they talk very little about the outcomes and what they want to get from those programs, and what they’re getting for the money that they’re spending. We don’t hear a lot about that. * (14:50) So I think it’s time, Mr. Speaker, to throw a challenge out to the NDP.

Instead of telling us how much money the government is putting into a program, can they please tell us what they are trying to achieve, in what period of time, and report back to the people of Manitoba on a regular basis about whether or not they are on target to achieving the goals that they set out? Now, I think that would be a very refreshing way of this government, and I was hoping to see that in this Throne Speech. Unfortunately, we didn’t see a lot of that.

So, again, we will continue over the next four years, I’m sure, to see announcement after announcement about how much money and how many millions of dollars they’re put ting into various government programs that may, on the surface, sound great, Mr. Speaker. But when it comes down to it, are they really helping the people that those programs are put in place to help? And, at the end of the day, that is how a government should be judged, in the end, as to whether or not they have actually achieved the goals that they set out to achieve. So I’m hoping over the course of the next four years, Mr.

Speaker, that we can hold the government’s feet to the fire. And each time they make a government announcement, it’s not just about how much money they’re putting into a program, but it’s what that–what the goals are of that program, what the time frame is to achieve those goals, and what are the various checking mechanisms along the way to ensure that they are on track to achieve those goals. Because I think that’s what the people of Manitoba want to know; they want to know where the money is going into the programs that these–that the NDP is announcing.

238 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 So, Mr. Speaker, for these r easons I’m afraid, once again, that I will have to vote against the Throne Speech. But there are many things, I believe, amendments to the Throne Speech that our leader has introduced in this Chamber, and I would hope that members opposite would look at those each individually, and see that they do offer–they are good amendments to this Throne Speech.

And I would encourage all members to set aside their partisanship and see fit to, perhaps, support some of those amendments because–and all of those amendment s because they are good ones. So, with that, Mr. Speaker, I –again, I want to thank the people of Tuxedo for re -electing me into the Manitoba Chamber, into the Legislature, and I look forward to the debates over the next four years. Thank you. Hon.

Peter Bjornson (Minister of Entrepreneur - ship, Training and Trade ): It is a pleasure to rise today to speak to my ninth Throne Speech since I’ve been duly elected to represent the citizens of the Gimli constituency, and I thank them for that opportunity to do so. I’d like to start, as many have over the course of the Throne Speech debate, Mr. Speaker, and welcome you in your new role as Speaker. And I would also like to welcome the table officers and the pages. I listened very closely to the congratulations from the member from St. Paul to one page in particular, and I can attest to his musical prowess.

I was at a CD release party in the band that he drums for last week, and he is an excellent musician. I do want to start by thanking, again, the community of Gi mli and Winnipeg Beach, Dunnottar, St. Andrews and the new part of my constituency, Riverton, part of the RM of Bifrost, Hecla and Grindstone. And it’s very special to me that I would now represent Hecla in my new boundaries in the new constituency of Giml i, because my long, long–or great -great-grandfather– was the first European -descent child born on Hecla Island in 1876.

So we have deep roots in Hecla, and I’m very pleased to have that opportunity to represent that beautiful part of the province of Manitoba. And speaking of family, I’ll start by thanking my family. As we all know, elections are a very gruelling exercise. I called it 28, 14-hour days for the privilege of four years of 14 -hour days, but something that I would–I can’t think of anything I’d rather do, Mr. Speaker, than have the privilege of serving the people of the Gimli constituency. But, during that time, of course, our families do pay quite a price, I know.

And for me it was very difficult missing my brother’s 50th birthday, missing my mo m’s 70 th birthday and, of course, my 14th wedding anniversary. I’ve since been able to atone for the first two; I’m not so sure I’ve atoned appropriately for the latter –but the jury’s still out on that–but that is, unfortunately, what happens during an election campaign. But it was also a time to say goodbye to my uncle, John Bjornson, who passed at 84 years of age, who had been a lifelong resident of the West St. Paul–or a long- time resident, I should say, of the West St.

Paul area, and a very big suppor ter of myself and our party. And I was –it was great to see the family there supporting Uncle John, but it was certainly not the circumstances under which we wanted to gather for that reunion. But I had great team, as many members in this Chamber have tal ked about, the many hours of volunteer labour that go into an election, whether it was pounding up the signs, taking down the signs, whether it was making those phone calls, making those phone calls again, making those phone calls yet another time and maki ng those phone calls a fourth time and a fifth time, if necessary.

Whether it was going canvassing door -to-door or attending debates with myself, and all the things that went on during course of the election, I was always in awe of that incredible voluntee r effort and the tremendous support that I received over the course of that 28-day exercise in democracy. I’d also like to thank my colleague, the MLA for Minto and the MLA for Kildonan, who were two colleagues who joined me on the doorstep and joined me at events over the course of the election, and certainly a pleasure to be on the doorstep with my colleagues.

One thing that we did note, though, at approximately 6- 7 and 6 -4 we thought it was advisable to step down a step when we knocked on doors when we did meet and greet people at the doorway. Now some people have often asked me, well, why politics, because I had a wonderful job teaching in Gimli High School. And I think for some of the new members here I’d like to tell a little story as to what it wa s that brought me to this Chamber, and that of course was the politics of the 1990s and how it impacted me as a professional in the classroom and

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 239 the modus operandi that I had witnessed of the government of the day in the 1990s. And I guess if you ignore a problem, you don’t admit that there is a problem, you don’t try to address the problem, then you don’t accept any responsibility for the problem. Well, one of the problems that we had in the schools was bullying. In fact, we did a survey through the Manitoba Teachers’ Society about the concerns that teachers had in the classroom and it was violent behaviour and aggressive behaviour and bullying issues.

That was the number one issue that we raised with the government of the day. Well, Mr. Speaker, they ch ose to do nothing about it. In fact, the way they approached teaching in Manitoba was to cut the funding, was to introduce a bill that locked teachers out from professional development, was to strip teachers of the collective bargaining rights that they ha d bargained for over five generations–pardon me, five decades, and to me, the government of the day ignored bullying. In fact they were among the biggest bullies towards the education profession. But they ignored the problem.

They didn’t admit there was a problem. They didn’t try to address the problem. They didn’t take any responsibility for the problem. In fact, in this very Chamber, I heard one of my former critics for the Education portfolio say, there wasn’t any bullying in schools when we were in gove rnment. So, again, ignoring the problem. Same thing about the teachers’ pensions. Eight consecutive years where the advice had been given that the pension adjustment account should be adjusted because the account was at risk of running out, essentially. Eight consecutive years of letters from the actuary.

But if you ignore the problem, if you don’t admit there’s a problem, if you don’t do anything about the problem, you don’t accept any responsibility for the problem. We as a government, on the other hand , have been doing a lot to address both those issues in education. Bringing in a Safe Schools legislation, bringing in, I believe, seven changes to The Teachers’ Pensions Act, including two that are going to have a very tremendous benefit to retired teachers and the pension adjustment account, the sustainability of that account, because we accept the responsibilities for both those problems.

We’ve taken a stand to address those problems, and yes, there’s still work to be done to continue to address those problems, Mr. Speaker. Auto theft, another great example of what was happening in the 1990s, and I do recall a member in this Chamber standing up and saying, well, there was no auto theft when we were in government. I remember that statement very clearly as if it was only yesterday. If you ignore the problem, if you don’t admit there’s a problem, if you don’t take any action to address the problem, then you don’t take any responsibility for the problem.

And what have we done in our tenure as government? Mr. Speaker, 83 per cent reduction in auto theft with a strategy working with all the stakeholders to make that a reality and similar strategies that will be working with stakeholders to address other issues of crime in Manitoba. * (15:00) Gangs: Well, this is a bit different. I mean, like I said, if you ignore the problem, you don’t admit there’s a problem, don’t take any responsibility, the members opposite are a little bit different on this. They’re talking revisionist history saying, well, there were no gangs in Manitoba when we were in office.

So you ask the question: Why did you build that $3-million courthouse to deal with court cases with– that were designed specifically to deal with court cases with gangs? But they didn’t exist when they were in office, so it’s a bit of revisionist history from members opposite on that particular issue, and it’s an interesting position to take, when we know that they built that courthouse for the purpose of trying these gangs. But, again, it’s kind of not admitting that there’s a problem, it’s not trying to address a problem and not taking any responsibility for the problem. But we have strategies.

We, on this side of the House, have had strategies over the course of our 10 years in office to address gangs. And we’ve done so with intervention programs, prevention programs, starting where the kids are most vulnerable, and trying to address those children who are at risk of becoming engaged in gang activity and those children who are risk of becoming involved in any criminal activity, and we’ll continue to work on the intervention and prevention side.

And then, of course, on the enforcement side, with laws that will take property achieved by crime, and have that property confiscated and sold for the purpose of generati ng funds for the purpose of supporting our police, things that we have done. Unlike members opposite, we didn’t ignore the problem. We admitted there was a problem. We’ve taken steps to address those problems and we accept responsibility for those problems because that’s what

240 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 we need to do to make this province a better place, and we’ll continue to do so. So, those are just a few things that inspired me to get involved in politics and I was absolutely overwhelmed in 2003 by the support that I received in the constituency of Gimli. Again, very appreciative of that continued support in 2007 and thrilled to be here to be a part of the team of New Democrats, of 37 New Democrats, as we move forward with our renewed mandate.

Now, it was interesting to hear the member from Tuxedo talk about what did Manitobans vote for and what she didn’t think Manitobans voted for. Well, Manitobans did vote for 37 New Democrats. They did vote for a record number in a majority government and they did vote for a fourth consecutive New Democrat majority. We made history on the election night of 2011 and I’m very pleased to be part of that history. What did they vote for? Well, let’s look at health care. Health care was a very important issue and continues to be a very important issue and it had been an important issue throughout the election.

Now, I recall in the ’07 election, Mr. Speaker, when I stood in front of the Gimli health centre, which was redeveloped under our government, by the way, a beautiful $13 -million facility. I recall standing in front of that facility with then -Premier Gary Doer at my side, to announce a commitment to six dialysis beds in a brand- new dialysis unit in Gimli hospital announced in the ’07 election. I also recall being accosted by the opposition candidate’s manager, and other members of his campaign team, saying what the–are you announcing this for? Expletive deleted, Hansard. What are you announcing this for?

We cannot afford this. We don’t need this. And that was their position on rural health care in 2007. So what did Manitobans vote for in 2011? When we were in the Gimli constituency, we announced, Mr. Speaker, that Gimli health centre, with that beautiful new dialysis unit, will now also become a CancerCare hub with a dedicated cancer phar macist, with a dedicated CancerCare patient co -ordinator. That’s what we voted for in 2011 election. What did we vote for in health care, Mr. Speaker? We also voted for the fact that there will be Telehealth links now at the Riverton health centre and the Gimli health centre.

That’s what we voted for in this 2011 election. And what does that mean for the people of Riverton, the people of Gimli? Gimli, statistically, is the oldest community in Manitoba. We have more seniors living in Gimli than any other community in Manitoba. And health care was an issue that I kept hearing about on the doorstep and the ability to get better health care closer to home, and sooner. Of course, Telehealth, and the CancerCare hub, and the dialysis unit are all part of that. That’s what Manitobans voted for in the 2011 election, Mr. Speaker. What about education?

I heard that a lot on the doorstep as a former teacher, who had, as I said, been through the dark days of the ‘90s, when we were being beaten up by the government of the day. And I’ve had the privilege of serving as Manitoba’s Education Minister for six years, and I continue to work with a great team of people who are continuing to increase funding to education and provide more opportunities for students all over the province.

And during the election campaign, I was very pleased to be joined by our leader when he announced that there would be more money for technical vocational equipment and resources and programs in Gimli High School and Arborg high school, and the fact that we’re going to be bringing more opportunities for our students closer to home.

The fact that we’re also going to allow for those students, when they do go on to university, better opportunities under the student loan program, where they won’t be penalized for owning a car or having a job, where they can pay interest at prime, I believe, was our commitment, keeping education affordable. And I know how important that is for rural Manitobans, because, Mr. Speaker, when I was going to university, I held no less than two jobs, had been involved in student politics and–well, actually, three jobs, now that I think of it.

I took a full course load and had to pay the mortgage when I was going to university. So I know how difficult it is for rural Manitobans. When you offer rural Manitobans affordable education and when you offer rural Manitobans more bursaries to support their education, that’s what Manitobans voted for in ’07. That’s what they voted for 2011. Now, I know that we also talk about class si zes, the only party to step up to the plate and make a commitment on class sizes.

And the members opposite–it was interesting to hear the member from Tuxedo talk about setting targets to achieve our goals that we have set for ourselves here in Manitoba.

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 241 Well, we have set a target in terms of the capital, in terms of the human resources that we’ll need to make this happen and working with the stakeholders to make this happen. And we will work towards that goal of classes between kindergarten and grade 3 and cap the size at 20. Now, I know we’ve been successful at capping the size of the Conservative caucus over the last two elections. As far as the class composition is concerned, we don’t really have control over that, Mr. Speaker.

But, certainly, I think when you look at what Manitobans voted for in 2011, they voted for a government that not only is the government for health care in Manitoba, but this is the education government here in Manitoba. And we’ll continue to find ways to support and enrich our opportunities for our students in our schools. In fact, I had the privilege, Mr. Speaker, of attending the 30th birthday of the Manitoba Theatre for Young People on Saturday.

My sons and daughter are all very artistically inclined as actors, musicians and singers–evidently, it skips a generation–but we’ve had the privilege of going to Manitoba Theatre for Young People and my children have all been engaged in theatre and musical theatre class. And I see the member from Burrows here who also was at that celebrat ion of 30 years of a very nurturing, inclusive environment that allows kids to explore the many gifts that they bring with them each and every day.

And I believe that every child has a gift that they bring into the classroom every day, and it’s incumbent o n us to ensure that they have that opportunity to explore that gift. Now, I recall members opposite in the ’07 election–or was it ’03? I think it was ’07 –where they said, oh, we don’t need phys. ed., we don’t need the arts, we don’t need music, we need t o go back to the basics in education. I was waiting for them to announce the return to slate boards, where we’re looking at SMART Boards. We’re looking at technologies.

We’re looking at ways to resource our schools and our communities properly so our children have the best possible tools available to them for the best possible outcomes. Well, let’s talk about infrastructure. I know members opposite, they have quite a wish list on infrastructure. And it’s interesting to hear them revisit the history of how they would have done things when they were in office as far as infrastructure is concerned. I –you know, I don’t recall exactly how many per cent times more money we’ve been investing in infrastructure, but I see a wonderful example of that.

And it was rather interesting during the election, because here we are debating just off of Highway No. 9 in a community centre, we had a debate where I was asked about the status of Highway No. 9. What are our plans on Highway No. 9? * (15:10) Well, Highway No. 9, as those of you know who have had the opportunity to drive from Winnipeg to Selkirk lately, you’ll know that in a very short eight-year period, we have done a lot of work on access and egress issues, on safety issues.

And the access and egress that we’ve s pent a considerable amount of money on in Selkirk on Highway 9A, as it loops around Selkirk, is because of the tremendous growth that’s happening in Selkirk. The access and egress issues that we’ve been dealing with and the safety issues that we’ve been dealing with, straightening out that curve on Parks Creek and putting in a much larger, better bridge on Parks Creek, has been an important project for our government.

Taking that six- kilometre stretch from Lockport to–right to Selkirk, where we’ve resurfaced that area and diamond grinded the concrete, it’s absolutely a beautiful stretch of highway now. And there have been a lot of efforts made over the previous eight years to ensure that a lot of blacktop has gone down that particular stretch of road.

Now, I was curious, because my opposition candidate stood up after I gave that answer about over $20 million of money invested in access -egress safety and resurfacing, and he said, well, we had a plan to do the entire highway from Winnipeg to Selkirk and we wer e even going to pave the shoulders. We’ve had that plan in place when we were in office and we even had the money in place. So it is really interesting revisionist history because I do not believe for a second that they had the plan or the money in place to do exactly what he was saying that they would have done in the 1990s.

But that’s the coulda, woulda, shoulda party and, you know, I think our record was very clear in terms of our investment in infrastructure. Well, let me talk about one more very, very important piece of infrastructure –and I have to tell you, Mr. Speaker, when the opposition mentioned that the City of Winnipeg does not need to upgrade that North End waste -water treatment plant, and I told people who had said, well, they’re supporting the Tories, that they said they were going to cancel

242 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 that north end waste -water treatment plant. They’re not going to force the City to do this, that it was an incredible waste of money to do this. And I told them about that day in July, or pardon me, June of 2002, where 426 million litres of raw sewage was spilled into the Red River, and they say, we don’t need to fix this? I have to tell you that I even had people take signs down when I told them that this is what was going to happen if they voted in the Conservatives.

Now, as somebody who lives by Lake Winnipeg–I’ve lived by that lake all my life and I’ve seen the many moods of Lake Winnipeg. I like to characterize it as the serene, the surreal and the savage lake because I have seen that lake incredibly serene, where you’re walking along the lake and you see the–a very gentle breeze and you see the sun shining on it. It’s absolutely beautiful. Then you’ve seen the surreal, where you’re walking late in the evening and you can’t tell the difference between the lake and the sky, the horizon. They just blend. It’s absolutely surreal.

And, of course, I’ve seen the savage nature of that lake, where we’ve seen the lake go from that very calm, serene moment to that incredible torrent and that weather bomb that we experienced over a year ago, now, when it’s done incredible damage in a very, very short period of time.

And I’ve seen a bit of that this year, but, thankfully–thankfully–working with the munici - palities, talking to municipalities about replacing those dikes –that we were the government that built and criticized by the opposition by for doing it –the dikes that were first built under Premier Schreyer and second under our government in 2005, I believe, was a very ambitions south basin diking initiative.

And getting the municipalities to rebuild those dikes and restore them to pre -weather bomb conditions, and in areas where they were concerned about being a little bit more vulnerable, perhaps because of the – the condition of the dike, to make sure that they had a plan in place to ensure that people’s property and personal safety were addressed with other plans. And, Mr. Speaker, it’s been very successful.

There are some individuals who will be having their houses raised, who will be having ring dikes built around their properties and to ensure that they will not have to endure another high water episode and the loss and the stress of those particular episodes that we have seen all too often. So, Mr. Speaker, it’s not just what’s happening on the surface of the lake, though; it’s what’s happening in the lake and our government having the plan to address what’s happening in the lake.

And to hear members opposite say that they thought that our water regulations were wrong -headed and that we had water police who were o ut there, and that we would cancel that North End waste -water treatment plant that I was referring to, people in my constituency were extremely concerned. And it was curious because, during the election, we had a debate on the health of the lake, and every candidate was given an opportunity to respond to every question. And my opposition candidate choose not –chose not to respond to a number of the questions.

He chose not to say anything, and when he talked about their platform on Lake Winnipeg–the first thing we’re going to do–the first thing they were going to do was expand on two programs that we had initiated. They had no plan for Lake Winnipeg, none. And, Mr. Speaker, we’ve been working with people who live along the shores of Lake Winnipeg in permanent residences, who live along the shores of Lake Winnipeg in temporary residences, who make a living on Lake Winnipeg, and that’s what we’ll continue to do. Now, community safety. Been a lot of discussion about community safety.

And we were waiting: What w ere the Tories going to promise on community safety? And it was almost as if they said, well, let’s wait and see what the NDP promises and we’ll promise the same. It was almost as if that was their strategy, because we have been committed to community safety. We continue to invest in community safety: 261 police officers since we’ve been in office, the cadet program jointly with the City of Winnipeg, and we’re going to enhance that cadet program. We’re going to increase the number of police officers on the streets, Mr. Speaker.

And we also talked about the special resource officers that we have in our schools and how that is such a great opportunity for students to get to know police in a very different way. This came up in the debate as well, when I tal ked about that as an intervention and a prevention mechanism, having special resource officers in our schools. Now, somebody actually took exception and said, isn’t it sad that we have to do that, and I had to explain exactly what that was all about. That was an opportunity to have a student’s first experience with a police officer be: Hi, how are you?

I’m here to help out coaching the basketball team, or, I’m here to talk to you about some of the choices that you might

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 243 make in life, or, I’m here at your te acher’s request to come and talk to you about law, or, I’m here at your teacher’s request to talk about a career in law enforcement, or, I’m here to be a part of your community, rather than a first experience of a student to be being read their Miranda rights. We need to have more intervention and more prevention, and that’s what sets us apart from the members opposite. They’re the tough- on-crime notion, but they don’t get the prevention- on-crime side of the issue; they don’t get the balance that we bring to the table.

And when the member from Tuxedo said, Manitobans, what are they voting for? They voted for a team of committed social democrats who are going to not only be tough on crime, but we’re also going to be smart on crime. We’re going to provide opportunities to prevent and intervene, and we’re going to get to the social ills and work with our stakeholders to address those social ills that lead people to make those choices that they make in going down perhaps the wrong path. So, Mr. Speaker, it’s c ertainly a pleasure to be a part of that team. It’s a pleasure to be a part of history.

It’s a pleasure to be part of a fourth New Democrat majority government, and I’m looking forward to what we will do in the next four years. In fact, in my Department of Entrepreneurship, Training and Trade, yet again we were the only party that was talking about the importance of training, the only party that was talking about apprenticeships, the only party that’s been delivering on apprenticeships, the only party tha t’s been engaged with the community to address labour market demands and labour market issues. And that’s been our commitment.

It’s a privilege to work with the many different sector councils that we have here in Manitoba, including one that is an exampl e to all of –all other regions, in terms of the volunteer sector council, because we recognize how much people volunteer and how much these non- profit organizations contribute to our economy. And we’ve set a new standard in terms of that particular sector council and working with them to address their issues of concern and capacity.

Working with the many different small businesses has been a pleasure, that I’ve really gotten to know so many small businesses and go to so many celebrations to celebrate their success stories. We have 106,000 businesses in Manitoba; 102,000 of them are small businesses, and that –they account for one in every three jobs created in this province. And, Mr. Speaker, the growth in these businesses has been phenomenal. The number of women now that are starting businesses–more women are starting businesses in the last couple of years than men. That really speaks to the entrepreneurial spirit.

It speaks to the belief that they have in the future of this province. It speaks to the growth that we are seeing and the fact that something big is definitely happening here in Manitoba. * (15:20) Now, I heard one of the members refer to red tape. We’ve been working on BizPaL; we’ve been working on TAXcess; we’ve been working on a number of diffe rent initiatives to make it easier for you to set up your small business here in Manitoba.

And I’ve used that example: If you’re sitting in your kitchen in Halifax or in your living room in Vancouver and you want to set up a business in Manitoba, you go online and you enter in the name of the business in one of the over 70 different municipalities in the province that are hooked up to BizPaL, and it’ll tell you exactly all of the rules and regulations and all the permits that you would need to set up your business here in Manitoba. We’re making it easier for people to do business in Manitoba.

And you can also file the business taxes online on TAXcess, a 24- hour secured access because I know people just love doing their taxes at 4 in the morning, as do I. But they have any given time of the day they can go online and do that. We’re making it easier for people to do business here in Manitoba. And it’s not just small businesses here that are thriving in Manitoba.

I know the member from Kildonan referred to the fact that Rolls -Royce and General Electric are–or pardon me, Rolls -Royce and Pratt & Whitney at the Thompson weather testing facility made a substantial investment in that community in a state -of-the-art winter weather testing facility and General Electric is going to be doing the same. And I was very pleased to be at Magellan to open a 140,000- square-foot composite centre at the Magellan Aerospace site where we were told, in no uncertain terms, that it was working with our government and the federal gover nment that made this happen here in Manitoba.

Small business, big business, medium -sized, they’re all thriving here in Manitoba because we know how to work with our companies. We had a – we know how to work with our business community

244 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 and we’re looking at how we can expand the opportunities for those businesses and international markets and the trade department, or the Trade Council, with the participation of many stakeholders to come up with recommendations to make that happen. So, Mr. Speaker, it feels great to be here. It is fantastic to have this opportunity and the rumours of my political demise that were flying around from members opposite some short six months ago have been grossly exaggerated.

It is indeed a privilege to serve in this Chamber and be one of 57 people who had that privilege to do so and I’d like to congratulate every single one of you on both sides of the Chamber for being elected and being granted that privilege, and I look forward to working with and, I guess, we can expect working against some members but we’ll certainly work together every opportunity that we can to make Manitoba and even better place to live And I have to say, I don’t think anyone’s partisan when we’re all going to be cheering for the Bombers as they move forward, and I’m telling you, after touring that new stadium on Friday, something big is definitely happening in this province of Manitoba, Mr.

Speaker, so, thank you very much. Mrs. Mavis Taillieu (Morris): I’m–I also, too, want to just, first of all, offer my congratulations to you on your election as Speaker. I think you probably won’t tire of hearing that and I know even talking to you just after you were elected and chosen that you were, perhaps, even shocked yourself. And– but we do congratulate you and look f orward to working with you. I always welcomed the opportunity to have some chats with the former Speaker , Mr.

George Hickes, who was an incredible Speaker for the House for the 12 years that he was , and wish you many more years of reign in the Speaker’s ch air, Mr. Speaker. Also, to the table officers and the member –and the officers of the Legislative Assembly, thank you for the work you do. It’s always very helpful when we’re doing our jobs to know that you’re supporting us behind the scenes, so thank you very much. And to the pages, well, I hope that this experience for you will be rewarding.

I hope that you will take some learning experiences from this time in the Chamber and take it sometimes, too, with a bit of a grain of salt. You have to sift through these things a little bit, but I’m sure that you’re going to enjoy the time you have with us as pages for this term. I also want to thank all of my constituents for returning me to this Legislature and the people that helped on my campaign because that i s really what it’s all about. It’s the people that help you because they believe in you.

They come, they volunteer, they’re not coerced, they’re your friends, they’re your neighbours, they’re your family, Mr. Speaker. It’s not somebody that you have to dra g in from another group that doesn’t really want to be there helping you; these are people that genuinely want to be there to help. They’re not paid. They do it because they believe in the candidate and, in my case, they believed in me as the candidate, an d they believed in the conservative values that emanate from the constituency of Morris. And I can’t thank enough some of the volunteers that really stood out on my campaign.

I have to single out Karen Glavin who was my volunteer co-ordinator, who did suc h a fabulous job of recruiting so many people. It became such an easy job because there was just so many people. And people did things even outside of their comfort zone because I’m sure everybody knows some–I mean for us it’s easy to make phone calls and to go door knocking and make a cold call at the door, but for some people that’s a little bit out of the comfort zone. But you ask them to do it and they were very happy to do it, and they really, really at the end of that said they enjoyed it very much.

We just had a volunteer appreciation night on Friday at my house and we had about 65 people there and that was only half the people that were able to come because everybody has such busy lives, and I think there was a football game on that night too. But it was a great, great evening to celebrate with the people that helped me, Mr. Speaker. I also not –want to mention my constituency assistant, Wendy, who did an incredible job in helping, my official agent Bob Hyde who, of course, very important role, who takes care of the money, Mr. Speaker, and also I have to thank my husband, Wilf.

He ran my campaign, you know, some people say you shouldn’t have a family member running your campaign. Well, we did it and, you know, I can still say we started talking again last week. So we’re all good, it’s all fine. But it was iffy there for a while. But–and I want to thank the people for returning me. I won every single poll and increased my vote count incredibly. So thanks to all of the people of Morris for that.

October 31, 2011 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 245 I also do have to mention I guess though that the NDP candidate was missing in action in my constituency, Mr. Speaker, and for a person with the name of Mohamed Alli , he sure didn’t put up much of a fight. Well, Mr. Speaker, I also want to just say to all of t he new candidates here, welcome to the Legislature.

It’s a daunting place, I think, when you first walk in this Chamber because we all recognize that there are very few people that get the opportunity to actually come and sit in this Chamber, because this Chamber is where the laws in this province are made and debated. It’s where everything that we live by happens and starts here. So it’s a very important role. And whether that role be government, or whether that role be opposition, there are the two distin ct roles to play here in a democratic society.

And I just want to remind the new members to reflect on that because even if you are in government you may find yourself at some point in opposition, and in opposition, hopefully at some point, you will find yourself in government. So I need to stress that no one side has all of the good ideas and does all of the work, there are roles to play from both sides.

I think that having had the opportunity to know some of the members that have been in this Chamber for a fairly lengthy time and have served in opposition, I find them to be much of a more rounded individual because they’ve experienced things from both sides. So I just want to say to the new members, be mindful of what your government is doing and make sur e that you don’t accept the rhetoric and the arrogance as absolute truth.

You know, I do also–I want to just say, not only do I want to commend all of the people that won their seats in the election, I think it’s important to thank all of the people that actually ran in the election, Mr. Speaker, because I know from our side we had some excellent candidates, some very excellent candidates, who worked extremely hard and when they went to the door they told the truth.

When they were asked a question, they didn’t bend the truth, they told the truth, and, you know, that was commendable for them to do that. * (15:30) I want to just reflect on the fact, though, that, you know, we have come through this election and finished this election. And, you know, it was –even though the members opposite might not want to think about this, but it is true that with 44 per cent of the vote–44 per cent of the vote –was a Conservative vote; 46 per cent of the vote voted for the NDP.

But I want to remind people that because of t hat–you can do the math–54 per cent of people did not vote for your policies, for the policies of the NDP. [interjection] So, Mr. Speaker, well, I can see that I’ve touched a nerve over there. They really don’t like the fact that 54 per cent of the people in Manitoba voted against them, but that’s the truth. That is the truth; that’s what the numbers say. And, you know, Mr. Speaker, I think that we saw some really dirty and negative tactics in this campaign, and I think that these American -style attack ad vertising that, as the member for St. Paul (Mr.

Schuler) talked about, how Pandora’s box is now open and this is what we’re going to experience now, initiated by the NDP. I think that bending the truth and fearmongering, out and out personal attacks, I just don’t feel that they had a place here in Manitoba. But, unfortunately, that’s what the NDP resorted to. and I can’t imagine that it feels good to win that way. I can’t imagine that. I think that if you win fair and square, when you win fair and square, that’s a victory to be celebrated. That is a victory to be celebrated. But, when you win by negative campaign tactics which bent the truth, Mr.

Speaker, were absolute falsehoods in many cases and were just plain out and out ridiculous, I don’t see how any person with any moral compass can clap for that. You can celebrate when you win fair and square, but when you don’t win fair and square, nobody with any moral compass can celebrate that. And I think you have to remember that when 54 per cent of people v ote against you, you have to remember–to member that you have to govern for everyone and not just the people that voted for you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this Throne Speech said, it’s a great time to be a Manitoban.

I think that in some ways that may be true, but I thought it was a very insensitive comment to be made when still thousands of people are out of their homes due to flooding throughout this province. [interjection] Yes, it is true. So I think when you say things like this, you have to remember we’re talking about a lot of people in rural Manitoba that have been affected by this, and I think that clapping and cheering just showed that this government doesn’t recognize the people outside the Perimeter Highway that have been so negatively affected by this flood.

246 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA October 31, 2011 I know in my own constituency I have flooding issues every single year, Mr. Speaker, whether it’s the Red River, which we narrowly avoided a flood this spring, and then we turned our eyes west to the Assiniboine and saw tremendous flood wa ters come down the Assiniboine River, and, in fact, flooding has inundated a large portion of this province. And it’s very, very unfortunate that there was some poor communication, poor forecasting and some mismanagement of this flood.

I do want to also s ay, at the same time, how thankful we were that the military, municipal and provincial officials were there and did an excellent job, Mr. Speaker, but there was still political interference and still mismanagement by this NDP government. I have toured the dikes–the diking area along the Assiniboine River in my constituency throughout the spring and summer and the fall, Mr. Speaker. And, yes, there’s good news that those dikes did hold, but, of course, bad news that they didn’t really hold and they did lea k quite a bit.

And the destruction along that area is profound, with the heavy equipment that came in and scraped up the topsoil, used people’s farmland as borrow pits.

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