Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 12 May 2015 (47th General Assembly, 4th Session, Vol. XLVII No. 13)

2015-05-12

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 12 May 2015 (47th General Assembly, 4th Session, Vol. XLVII No. 13)

2015-05-12

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

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May

12, 2015

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS

Vol. XLVII No. 13

The

House met at 1:30 p.m.

MR. SPEAKER (Verge):

Order, please!

Admit strangers.

Statements by

Members

MR. SPEAKER:

Today I am pleased to

hear members' statements from the Members for the Districts of Bellevue,

Fortune Bay Cape La Hune, Bonavista North, Trinity Bay de Verde, St.

John's Centre, and Burgeo La Poile.

The

hon. the Member for the District of Bellevue.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. PEACH:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

rise in this hon. House today to recognize the graduating classes of 2015 in

the great District of Bellevue.

May 1, 2015 I had the privilege of attending the graduation at St. Joseph's

All Grade School in Terrenceville.

There were thirteen graduates.

Then, on May 2, I had the opportunity to join my colleague, MHA for

Placentia St. Mary's and Attorney General, to attend the graduation of

Crescent Collegiate in Blaketown, with eighty graduates.

This

past weekend, May 8, it was my pleasure to attend the graduation of

Tricentia Academy in Arnold's Cove, where there were thirty graduates.

There are two other high schools in the District of Bellevue: Swift

Current Academy, with ten graduates; and Fortune Bay Academy, with eight.

want to congratulate and thank the principals, teachers, and staff of each

school for the great work they do preparing the students for their future.

Without your professionalism, these graduating classes would not have

been a success.

ask all Members of the House of Assembly to join me in congratulating the

graduating classes of 2015 on their accomplishment today and their years of

hard work and dedication.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

the District of Fortune Bay Cape La Hune.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MS PERRY:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

rise today to congratulate Devin and Bob Benoit for their remarkable

achievement of being amongst the strongest powerlifters in Canada.

This incredible father-son duo provides each other the support and

encouragement that is essential to excel in this sport.

With

a first place win in the eighty-three kilo weight class, at the National

Championships in St. John's last month, Devin is a three-time National

Champion. We cannot wait to see

how he does at the World Championships in November.

His awesome numbers were squat, 518 pounds; bench, 297 pounds; and

deadlift, 508 pounds.

Bob

is extremely proud of his son's success and has great reason to boast,

himself. Competing at his first

nationals in the 120-plus kilo class and competing for the second time with

his son, his numbers were: squat, 425 pounds; bench, 335 pounds; and

deadlift, 518 pounds.

Without using any lifting equipment other than a belt, Bob placed in fourth

place with a perfect lifting experience that was nine for nine in lifts.

Their commitment to chasing their dreams to gold together is truly

inspirational to us all. I ask

all members to join me in congratulating Devin and Bob and wish them the

best of luck in their upcoming competitions.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

the District of Bonavista North.

MR. CROSS:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am

sure you have all heard the riddle: What's the hardest thing about learning

to skate? Answer: the ice.

Let me tell you, Mr. Speaker, that answer is about to change.

The new answer is: competing against Crystal Gliders.

the Newfoundland and Labrador Provincial Figure Skating Competition for

thirteen years and under two members of Bonavista North's own Crystal

Gliders Figure Skating Club placed in the top six.

Stacey Wheeler of Greenspond and Amber Gray from Lumsden qualified to

perform at Skate Atlantica at Halifax on March 28, 2015, competing against

twenty-two other young ladies from the Atlantic Provinces.

Surely a dream come true for the young athletes representing their

club and their Province at such a tender age.

They are barely in their teens, yet both have been skating for over

ten years under the tutelage of Claudia Drover, their coach and motivator.

Parents say both girls spend countless hours utilizing skating video and

YouTube until they master the spins and jumps.

Their natural ability, coupled with their desire to compete at a very

keen level, has boosted their success.

Mr.

Speaker, I ask you and all hon. members to join me in congratulating Stacey

and Amber on their recent success, and I am sure there is more of the same

in the future.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Trinity Bay de Verde.

MR. CROCKER:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr.

Speaker, I rise in this hon. House today to recognize Danielle Seward of

Heart's Delight-Islington.

Danielle's brother Shane was born in 1985 with a rare neurological disorder

called Hypomelanosis of Ito. At

that time, Shane was the first person to be diagnosed with this condition in

Newfoundland and Labrador.

Unfortunately, Shane passed away in February 1995, at the age of nine.

Danielle and her parents, Bev and Clyde Seward, began fundraising for the

Janeway when Danielle was only four years old.

This year will mark Danielle's twenty-third year participating in the

Janeway Telethon. The first two

years were alongside her brother Shane and the rest have been in his memory.

Danielle volunteers countless hours each year for the Janeway and

this is her eighth year as a telethon coordinator.

May 1, family and friends gathered in Heart's Delight-Islington for this

year's event, A Night for Shane.

A night of great local entertainment.

That evening alone raised over $3,000.

Through their efforts, the Seward family has raised over $30,000 for

the Janeway in Shane's memory.

ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating the Seward family for

their continued fundraising efforts in Shane's memory.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Today I am happy to acknowledge and congratulate the Froude Avenue Tenant

Association that is having its AGM at the Froude Avenue Community Centre

in the heart of St. John's Centre.

The Association is poised to do incredible work to support their

community.

Tenant associations plan activities for seniors, youth, and children.

Among their activities are: social events and outings for seniors,

after-school activities for youth and children, parties to celebrate special

holidays. They organize events

to celebrate the accomplishments of tenants, proudly spreading the news of

successes in their community.

They also make sure that folks who may be sick or in need of support are

given that help.

The

Froude Avenue Tenant Association works together with all members to identify

needs in their neighbourhood and to come up with solutions that work.

This is community building at its best.

Many members of the Association have been long-time members

dedicating hours and hours of volunteer work.

As well, there are younger folks who join in.

I want to thank these volunteers for the work they do to ensure that

their community is safe and supportive for every member.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS:

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

rise today to recognize and congratulate the Piranha Swim Club, out of the

Bruce II Sports Centre, in Port aux Basques on raising more than $8,000

during their annual Swim for Hope on March 27.

The Piranha Swim Club started in 2003.

The current members are seven to sixteen years of age and the club is

a member of Swimming Newfoundland and Labrador.

Swim

for Hope is a provincial event held each year to raise money for the Dr. H.

Bliss Murphy Cancer Care Foundation.

This is the Swim for Hope's nineteenth year.

The charity event is a twelve hour relay and this year the local Swim

for Hope team competed against six community challenge teams.

These teams included teachers, local residents, parents of the

Piranhas, and others. The event

ended with more water fun, plenty of food and games for the participants.

The

Swim for Hope Team, along with countless volunteers, did a tremendous job

and are to be commended for their hard work and dedication for this worthy

cause.

Mr.

Speaker, I ask all members of this House to join with me in extending

congratulations to the Port aux Basques Piranha Swim Club on another

successful Swim for Hope.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Statements by Ministers.

Statements by

Ministers

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KENT:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am

pleased to rise in this hon. House today to recognize May 11 to 17 as

National Nursing Week in Newfoundland and Labrador.

The theme for 2015 is Nurses:

With you every step of the way.

This theme speaks to the broad scope of health services our nurses

provide and this week is an excellent opportunity to recognize their

contribution to our health care system.

currently have 6,342 registered nurses working in our Province.

This represents the second highest per population ratio for

registered nurses anywhere in the country.

Newfoundland and Labrador is also fortunate to have the highest per

population ratio in Canada for licensed practical nurses, with 2,383 LPNs

working in our Province.

Nurses play an invaluable role in our communities.

With a vast array of duties delivered in a number of settings, from

long-term care facilities and emergency departments, to frontline health

services in schools and clinics, nurses are often the first point of contact

for patients when they enter the health care system.

Nurses also play an important role in post-secondary education,

administration, research and policy.

They are responsible for providing direct care to patients, mentoring

new employees and students, and ensuring that everyone under their care is

treated respectfully.

Nurses often act as emotional support and provide reassurance that helps

ease the minds of patients and their families during difficult times.

Our nurses demonstrate humility and empathy, as well as a tremendous

work ethic and steadfast dedication to helping those who are most in need.

We continue to support nurses by negotiating competitive collective

agreements, implementing recruitment and retention initiatives, and

providing financial support to nursing students.

Mr.

Speaker, as part of our government's five-year strategy to reduce emergency

department wait times, Budget 2015 includes an investment of $938,300 to

provide approximately seven new full-time triage nursing positions, which

will make a real difference in ensuring all patients are assessed and

triaged quickly by a qualified nurse upon arrival in emergency departments

across the Province.

Mr.

Speaker, we applaud every nurse working in our Province.

I encourage everyone in Newfoundland and Labrador to recognize the

tireless efforts of nurses during National Nursing Week, and to acknowledge

their dedication to patients and to families.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS:

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

thank the minister for an advance copy of the statement.

We, as the Official Opposition, would also like to recognize May

11-17 as National Nursing Week.

We also want to thank nurses for their hard work and their dedication to

improving health care in our Province.

They affect the lives of many patients and their families, and they

are obviously invaluable in all our communities.

They

are highly skilled individuals who contribute significantly to our health

care system. Health care remains

a top priority for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians, and nurses are a large

part of that care.

have some of the poorest health outcomes in Canada the highest rates of

diabetes, stroke, cancer, just to name a few.

Our health care system needs to be more focussed on health outcomes,

and I think we can continue and should be listening to nurses to hear what

they have to say as front-line workers in our system.

Nurses can and should play an important role in improving the health

and wellness of the people of our Province.

again, thank you to all the nurses here in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Signal Hill Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL:

Thank you very much, Mr.

Speaker.

too, thank the minister for the advance copy of his statement.

I am very happy and very pleased to be able to stand and recognize

the nurses in our Province, both the Registered Nurses and the LPNs.

They truly are the first line of defence in our health care system.

They are the first ones that people interact with in our

institutions.

also want to recognize how overworked these nurses are, Mr. Speaker.

Our institutions are understaffed, whether we are talking about

long-term care or the hospitals.

Our nurses are overworked. They

cannot do the work that they really want to do in the positions that they

are in. We should be utilizing

them much better in primary health care and base them in the community.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr.

Speaker, the diverse range of outdoor recreational opportunities offered

through our impressive network of family-friendly campgrounds and day parks

has something to offer everyone.

I am pleased to rise today in this hon. House to encourage all members,

residents, and visitors from far and wide to explore and enjoy Newfoundland

and Labrador's great outdoors this summer.

Mr.

Speaker, we may not always have perfect camping weather, but that certainly

does not deter the thousands of campers who flock to our provincial

campsites each year. In advance

of this year's camping season, we launched a new provincial campsite

reservation service, designed to better meet the needs of outdoor

enthusiasts Province-wide.

Developed by renowned campsite management provider, Camis, the new service

requires users to pay both the reservation fee and campsite fees at the time

of reservation. This approach is

designed to deter clients from failing to cancel reservations when they do

not intend to show up.

The

new service improves the customer experience in other ways as well.

For example, users now have the ability to search based on campsite

availability instead of campsite category and a more streamlined campsite

numbering system has been implemented to replace the use of letters.

In addition, the campers now have the option of paying for a vehicle

entry fee at the time of reservation, thereby allowing for a speedier

check-in upon arrival at the park.

The

response to this new service has been overwhelming positive, Mr. Speaker.

During launch week alone, more than 4,200 reservations were made

through the service, and staff received a number of positive, unsolicited

public comments on its ease and efficiency.

The new system is working extremely well, and is expected to result

in increased usage of campsites during the 2015 camping season.

Mr.

Speaker, spring has sprung and the camping season is just around the corner.

Seven of our thirteen provincial camping parks open for the season on

Wednesday May 13

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. CRUMMELL:

followed by additional

park openings May 22 and May 29.

For anyone who has not already done so, I encourage you to visit the new

reservation system at

www.nlcamping.ca ,

book your campsite now, and get out and enjoy this Province's impressive

network of provincial parks and natural areas this summer.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE:

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

thank the minister for the advance copy of his statement.

Certainly we can agree that Newfoundland and Labrador has immense

beauty and pristine natural areas, and our provincial parks are a great

opportunity for people to get out and enjoy outdoor recreational activities.

Although it is disappointing that almost half of them will not be

open even for the May 24 long weekend which is coming up, as the minister

stated.

certainly support more efficient ways of conducting government business.

More services could be offered online, and it is good to see that you

can now reserve online for camping at our provincial parks.

One of the things I noticed when I went to the website, though, and

tried to use it on my BlackBerry that it does not work for mobile.

There is no dot mobile option at this point, so there is a way to

make improvements so that people can have greater access.

well, though, I think that we really do need to look at this year's Budget

which does increase camping fees by 20 per cent and that there were cuts

made to the Burnt Cape Ecological Reserve for

interpretation.

So, when you look at natural areas, we do not have another Mud

Immortal.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

thank the minister for the advance copy of his statement today on parks.

Mr. Speaker, at the same time, realizing that they have a reservation

system; at times it does have issues.

No doubt, the system is probably going to experience a little bit of

overload. Usually it happens in

the first week or so of the system use.

Mr.

Speaker, we also encourage residents and visitors alike to use these parks

wisely. They are pretty much a

provincial treasure of ours. We

also have to note as well that because of the use of these parks, we believe

there is a need for further study on the need for more parks in this

Province. We do know that

outdoor recreational activities are increasing.

Mr.

Speaker, just to sum up, again we urge caution over the weekend.

Keep in mind the road traffic this weekend is going to be very heavy

and we urge safety. Practice

safety, think safety first of all.

Thank you very much.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Seniors, Wellness and Social Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, I rise today

to note that May is Better Hearing and Speech Month in Newfoundland and

Labrador, and across Canada.

Yesterday, I joined representatives of the Newfoundland and Labrador

chapter

of the Canadian Hard of Hearing Association, and other organizations, to

officially sign a proclamation to that effect, in an effort to help promote

awareness of hearing loss and speech-language disabilities.

Mr.

Speaker, the Canadian Hard of Hearing Association of Newfoundland and

Labrador is a non-profit, charitable organization committed to the

prevention of hearing loss. It

is the only organization in the Province which exclusively represents people

who are hard of hearing. Since

its inception in 1994, it has made steady progress in developing programs

and services for its clientele.

The

Provincial Government's Disability Policy Office works with all government

departments, agencies and community organizations to develop policies and

programs to help ensure the inclusion of all people in all aspects of

society. Budget 2015 allocates

continued operational funding for the organization, and we have also

partnered with the Hard of Hearing Association on a variety of specific

initiatives over the years.

Mr.

Speaker, communication disorders such as hearing loss and speech language

disabilities affect about 50,000 people in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Many people benefit from early detection, appropriate therapy,

medical intervention, assistive technology, and inclusion strategies.

many of you may know, I have dealt with a loss of hearing myself, and have

worn two hearing aids for several years.

Mr. Speaker, I believe

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. JACKMAN:

I hear what I want to

hear.

believe, Mr. Speaker, I have worn them for about thirty years.

I will say to anybody who wears them, you would not survive without

them.

The

improvement in these devices, even over the past few years, has been

remarkable, and I am fortunate to have been able to benefit from advances in

assistive technology.

Mr.

Speaker, I invite my colleagues to join with the Canadian Hard of Hearing

Association Newfoundland and Labrador, the Newfoundland and Labrador

Association of Speech Language Pathologists and Audiologists, and the

Hearing Instrument Practitioners Association, to help promote public

awareness about hearing loss and speech-language disabilities.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Conception Bay South.

MR. HILLIER:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement.

I am happy to rise in this hon. House and recognize May as Better

Hearing and Speech Month. This

issue has been near and dear to the hearts of my household as my son is an

audiologist here in the Province.

Such

observances give us pause to reflect on the challenges those with

communications disorders face, and to celebrate achievements in technology

and programming to mitigate these challenges.

Persons with communications disorders can experience exclusion in

day-to-day interactions; interactions many of us take for granted.

Given only one-in-five people who

could benefit from a hearing aid actually uses one, point to the importance

of raising awareness around communications disorders.

Speech-Language & Audiology Canada have launched a seniors' communications

health campaign as part of this year's Speech and Hearing Month.

They pointed out that, People who have hearing loss are 2 to 5 times

more likely to develop dementia. and that at least 30 per cent of people

who suffer a stroke experience language loss thereafter.

the minister stated, early detection and intervention is key.

The recommended wait time for preschool children for therapy for a

speech sound disorder is three to six months.

As of July 2014, the wait time for children to receive treatment for

speech-language pathology was seventeen months from the time of referral.

Government committed in Budget 2015 to improve wait times.

Mr. Speaker, we hope that those wait times are improved for children

with hearing disabilities.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS:

Thanks, Mr. Speaker.

thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement.

I thank the Hard of Hearing Association for their work.

Bravo.

While listening to the minister talk about how hearing aids have improved

and how fortunate he is to benefit from that, I am thinking about the many

seniors with very modest incomes who cannot afford hearing aids and do not

qualify for assistance. Many do

not meet the very strict income criteria of the Provincial Hearing Aid

Program. Those who do qualify

have to wait at least a year for an appointment with an audiologist before

they can get their hearing aids.

all know how difficult life can be, the frustration and isolation that can

come with a hearing disability.

So I urge the minister to look into these barriers for seniors who need

hearing aids and to help seniors get the hearing aids that they desperately,

desperately need.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Oral Questions.

Oral Questions

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There are 182 contaminated sites in our Province.

The Auditor General said that the financial liabilities of these

sites should be included in the Province's financial statements, but we

learned last night at Estimates that this work on the inventory has not been

completed.

So I

ask the Premier: The AG identified this over a year ago; why has this work

not been completed?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Mr. Speaker, we are

following the advice of the Auditor General.

The impacted sites liability assessment program actually has been

ongoing for the last year, and I am happy to say in the House today that

work has been completed. We will

be submitting it to the Comptroller General and on to the Auditor General in

the coming days and weeks as we vet it through.

So,

that work has been done, and we look forward to releasing it to the public

in the coming weeks.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, the AG said that government will ultimately have involvement in all

contaminated sites in the Province.

The Abitibi sites alone are estimated to be $265 million.

So I

ask the Premier: What is the total amount of the environmental liabilities

in our Province?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Mr. Speaker, I would just

like to correct the Leader of the Opposition.

The number he is referring to as a liability for Abitibi is a

textbook quote in terms of a liability that has not been researched and

found and work done on it. They

just take a number out of the book just to put it down as a liability

number.

Mr.

Speaker, that site is being remediated; there is work being done on that

site. So, we do not know what

the exact cost is going to be at the end of the day.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. CRUMMELL:

With regard to the total

cost, we will not know that either until the program

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. CRUMMELL:

assessment has been

done, and we will release all that to the public.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Mr. Speaker, there seems

to be some confusion on the minister's part here.

Just a few minutes ago he said that the reports would be submitted,

would be made public. I just

mentioned that $265 million.

Will

the minister please clarify: Are the reports done or not?

What is the value of the contaminated sites at Abitibi?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Again, Mr. Speaker, all

the work has been done. The

report will be submitted to the Auditor General in due course.

That is going to happen in the coming days, and at the appropriate

time that will be made public. I

cannot be more clear than that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Last

year, government accepted all the pre-existing environmental liabilities at

the Come By Chance refinery without knowing the extent of those liabilities.

An environmental assessment has been planned the minister just

spoke to that. Last November,

the minister said: We expect the assessment to happen in short order.

ask the Premier: Has this environmental assessment been completed?

If so, what is the extent of that environmental liability?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY:

Mr. Speaker, just by way

of an update, there was a commitment that there would be an assessment done.

It is not completed yet, Mr. Speaker.

It is ongoing. We are

fully committed to make that available to the public, but it is not

completed.

Bearing in mind, as well, that our commitment around the facility was we

had to make a choice around doing some work around assessing the

environmental liabilities, which we believe, Mr. Speaker, it has been a long

history and we think it is going to be okay.

The other side of that was we either do that or we put 600 people out

of work. We were not prepared to

put 600 people out of work.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, no one asked the question about putting 600 people out of work.

What we asked was: What was the extent of the environmental

liability? The minister clearly

can answer that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Hear, hear!

MR. BALL:

He talked about it last

fall. He is still talking about

it. The work is not being done.

Will

the minister finally tell us: Who is actually doing this work?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Mr. Speaker, the terms

and conditions of the sale of the refinery to the proponent was part of

that. The environmental

assessment was their responsibility.

have taken responsibility in that liability agreement concerning the

environmental issues around soil sediment, ground water, and surface water.

That is all that we are responsible for, Mr. Speaker.

The proponent that has taken over that site is responsible for

everything else on that site.

Mr.

Speaker, the liability agreement is for a ten-year period.

If the company ceases to operate for more than one year, they assume

all responsibilities for the environmental impacts that are on the site.

That

is the short of it, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Government ran a $924 million deficit last year and is running a $1.1

billion deficit this year.

ask the Premier: If all of the environmental liabilities for their 182

contaminated sites were included in your Budget documents, how would this

change the financial picture of the Province?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Mr. Speaker, generally

accepted accounting practices requires us to identify those liabilities, to

have them on our books. I spoke

earlier that the report is being finalized.

It is going to be ready to present to the Auditor General.

Ms.

Speaker, we will make that all public, but it will on our books as

liability, not as a debt.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well

just to clarify, this work has been ongoing we understand from the

minister that it is going to be soon or very soon.

Will

the minister at least give the people of Newfoundland and Labrador some kind

of time frame when they can expect this information?

Is it a few weeks, will it be June, will it be May, will it be July?

When will it be?

You

are the minister of that portfolio, the Premier is sitting there.

You really do not know what the environmental liabilities are in this

Province?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Environment and Conservation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Mr. Speaker, we are

talking about 182 sites that we have identified, that we have done the work

on, we done the assessments on.

Mr. Speaker, there has been a lot of work that has gone into this.

Again, we are at the very final stages.

It will be up to the Auditor General to have a look at that, get his

set of eyes on that. When he is

ready to release that, and when the government is ready to release that, we

will do so when it is appropriate.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Leader of

the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, I remind the minister, it was the AG who said it needed to be done.

The new act to provide the public with access to information and

protection of privacy, which was prepared by Justice Clyde Wells and his

Committee, and which repeals Bill 29 received approval in this House, in

committee level, on April 28.

The new bill is of extreme importance to the people of this Province.

It only takes the third reading in this House which can be

accomplished today and signed by the Lieutenant Governor to make this bill

law.

ask the Premier: Why is your government delaying the passage of this very

important legislation?

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Justice and Public Safety.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Mr. Speaker, there is no

delay on the moving forward of the legislation for the bill that the member

is asking about. The standard

procedure in this House is that we take bills through first reading, second

reading, committee, third reading, and royal assent, and it happens at

various stages. The last couple

of days we just happened to be debating the Budget but he can expect that

third reading on this bill will be coming, I would say, within the next

three or four days.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE:

Mr. Speaker, 911 is the

major life and safety policy in our Province.

In Estimates this morning, I was denied an opportunity to probe the

911 Estimates. There are a

number of questions that need to be answered.

ask the minister: Is this the open and accountable government you are trying

to promote or are you trying to hide behind Bill 29 one more time?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister

Responsible for Fire and Emergency Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

are very proud of the fact that it was our government that brought forward

the 911 bill for this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

We are very proud of the

service that we are providing all Newfoundlanders and Labradorians with this

bill.

There is nobody hiding, Mr. Speaker.

As the member would know, in Estimates this morning, Estimates is

intended for members of the committees to explore the government funds that

have been appropriated for various departments.

The member would also recognize, because he said himself towards the

end: If you don't mind, I will move away from this now.

I have some policy issues I want to raise on 911.

Estimates concluded at the end of a little over three hours, Mr. Speaker.

Members who were present this morning can attest that I made the

offer to the hon. member to have my officials and myself available for

follow-up discussions on policy issues or we could debate it in the House of

Assembly.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE:

I am not sure about the

minister, but when you transfer $500,000 from the 911 to the government,

that is a budgetary item; when you transfer $150,000, that is a budgetary

item.

Mr.

Speaker, I ask the minister, seeing he shut it down this morning.

It is a question they would not answer this morning.

Mr. Speaker, you heard yesterday in Question Period emergency

responders are asking for a dispatch system for 911.

Your officials have continually said that a dispatch system would

overwhelm the system and cause problems for the public service answering

points.

ask the minister: In openness and transparency, will you table the

evaluation that you have completed to verify that the 911 system would be

overloaded with dispatch callers?

I ask you to table that report, as you used it publicly yourself.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister

Responsible for Fire and Emergency Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Mr. Speaker, we have

established 911 in this Province as an emergency response, and the member

opposite is fully aware because he is making the most protest of the current

system of anyone in the Province.

The

reality is that the system is set up so that emergency zones are established

throughout all of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.

In those zones, they determine the agency that responds to calls when

they arrive. Corner Brook and

St. John's use the standard operating procedures that are consistent, Mr.

Speaker, with other jurisdictions across this country I might add.

When

a call is received, it is then transferred to the first lead responder who

makes a determination on whether other responders are required and then they

follow through on that service.

It is a very clear process, Mr. Speaker.

I have outlined it on many occasions but it is clearly not an

Estimates discussion, it is a policy political discussion that we are having

here.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

The

hon. the Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE:

Mr. Speaker, if I am the

only one complaining, who is the fire chief from Pasadena who was on CBC

this weekend? The fire chief

from Cox's Cove is complaining, the fire chief in Meadows is complaining,

the fire chief in Hughes Brook Irishtown complained about not getting a

call.

ask the minister again: As you told all of the volunteer firefighters in

this Province that we cannot have dispatch because it would overload,

wouldn't you do the respect of those volunteers and table that report?

I am sure that you would not make such a decision without having the

report completed.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister

Responsible for Fire and Emergency Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Mr. Speaker, I accept the

debate on policy and I expect a political debate, but I am certainly not

going to sit here in this House and have the member suggest or insinuate

that I, or anybody over here, have disrespect for firefighters in this

Province. It is absolutely

ridiculous.

all have firefighters in our own communities and we value what they do every

single day.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

We go to events.

We celebrate what they do in saving lives and responding to

emergencies, Mr. Speaker.

This

is a political debate, nothing more than that.

Our government brought it forward.

The member does not like it for his area and he is playing politics

with the situation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

The

hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. J. BENNETT:

Mr. Speaker,

yesterday the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services said they do

everything they can for youth who have signed service agreements with the

department. Clearly, there are

gaps in service, if youth receiving services from CYFS are dying in the

transition to adulthood.

ask the minister: What action will you take on the Committee's

recommendations to improve the transition for youth receiving services?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. S. COLLINS:

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

would say to the member opposite, if he wants to come to my office, as he

has done before, and have a briefing with regard to youth services, I would

be more than happy to do so. We

have made great progress in the last number of years, particularly since

2011 when we made improvements to the legislation.

We continue to do improvements to that legislation and the work that

is done around it.

has to understand I believe he understands it, but he would just rather

not hear it it is a voluntary service, so we can only do so much when a

child turns into a youth at sixteen years of age.

It is a voluntary service.

We try to work with that individual to try to bring them in under our

umbrella of services; however, it is a voluntary service.

As I said, we have made great progress and I certainly hope to see

that progress continue.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

St. Barbe.

MR. J. BENNETT:

Mr. Speaker,

briefings are where they tell us what they are doing.

In here is where we actually force them to do something.

Youth who sign themselves out of care face a considerable transition to

adulthood. The fact that they

require protective intervention in the first place speaks to the exceptional

challenges they will face in transition.

We can infer from the Committee's recommendations that transition

supports are not adequate for vulnerable youth.

ask the minister: Will you adopt the recommendations of the Committee to

ensure youth transitioning out of care are adequately prepared?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. S. COLLINS:

Mr. Speaker, again,

we strive as a department to make sure that transition goes as well as it

possibly can. The member

mentioned you are talking about vulnerable youth; you are talking about

vulnerable children who turn into the youth age.

We want to work with those individuals.

Again, it is a voluntary service.

I do not know what the member is suggesting, whether we take those

people and we make sure they have the services against their will.

It is a very delicate piece of work, but we want to make sure that we

work with other departments such as AES to be able to help with that

transition so that person aging out of the child system going into

'youthhood', if I could use that term, that they are provided with every

opportunity to make sure that that transition is successful, and we do that

on a daily basis.

Again, I will go back to the progress we have made, particularly since 2011.

We have made great progress, and I hope to see more progress

continue.

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. S. COLLINS:

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS:

Mr. Speaker, in

Budget Estimates for Justice this morning the Attorney General indicated

that $100,000 was being budgeted to research and develop a model for a

domestic violence court in Labrador, but the Attorney General refused to

commit to actually establishing a court in Labrador.

ask the Attorney General: Will you commit now to ensuring that a domestic

violence court is established in Labrador?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Attorney

General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. F. COLLINS:

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

Mr.

Speaker, this government has committed to reinstituting or creating a

domestic violence court in St. John's and also to extending that court to

another site on the West Coast of the Island.

As well, we have committed $100,000 to do a study in Labrador to see

what kind of a therapeutic treatment court might be the best suit for

Labrador.

That

is what the money is for, Mr. Speaker.

The therapeutic treatment approach of these courts will be different

for Aboriginal clients, because we would want to involve the community and

the Aboriginal culture into that treatment.

That is what the money is there for, Mr. Speaker, and that is what

the government is committed to.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS:

Mr. Speaker, I have

asked several times this morning and I have asked again here now, the

Attorney General has had several opportunities to clarify his government's

plans for a domestic violence court in Labrador.

All he has committed to was spending the money to research it.

The people of Labrador are more interested in actually getting the

court.

ask the Attorney General again: Will you now commit to treating the

residents of Labrador fairly and ensuring they actually get a domestic

violence court as has been committed to the rest of the Province?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Attorney

General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. F. COLLINS:

Mr. Speaker, I am

sure the people of Labrador are committed to just and fair treatment and the

administration of justice, so is this department, so is the Department of

the Attorney General. That is

why, Mr. Speaker, we want to look very closely at what is the best kind of a

model that suits Labrador; that is what we are doing here.

Until such time as we have all of that put together, then we will

decide what and where and when the court goes in Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Mount Pearl South.

MR. LANE:

Mr. Speaker, in the

Auditor General's recent update of recommendations made since 2009 he noted

that in 2010 he made a number of recommendations related to real estate

regulations. Five years later he

notes only half of these recommendations have been implemented.

ask the Minister of Service NL: Why have you not taken action to implement

those recommendations?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Service Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr.

Speaker, there are no concerns with regard to the protection of the public,

and we do take the Auditor General's comments certainly in context.

We are doing the work that needs to be done around that.

What

he was referring to more than anything was the there are issues around the

Automated Licensing and Enforcement Registration Tracking System.

It is a system that we use through OCIO to track what is happening in

the industry.

Mr.

Speaker, the industry in Newfoundland and Labrador is only so big.

We are able to do that work in other ways, but we need to upgrade

that system. We plan to do that

hopefully in the coming while.

Right now, there are no budget recommendations around to enhance that

system, and we are working towards that.

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Mount Pearl South.

MR. LANE:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

sounds pretty non-committal to me.

Mr.

Speaker, Service NL has held public consultations for amending the

Residential Tenancies Act. It

also held consultations for a statutory review on the workers' compensation.

ask the minister: Why did you amend your insurance legislation so that

agents no longer have to submit audits of their trust accounts without

consulting with key industry stakeholders?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Service Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. CRUMMELL:

Mr. Speaker, again, we do

certainly look at the Auditor General's concerns and we take them very

seriously. We have the highest

reporting standards in Canada for a Province.

Provincially, we have the highest in Canada for reporting standards.

Mr.

Speaker, we do have a small industry; similarly, we are a small Province.

We are managing that industry very well, we believe.

In terms of consultations, right now the changes that we have made

are aligned with other jurisdictions in Canada.

The

mainland companies that do business here in Newfoundland and Labrador were

asking for this. The work that

was being done before, companies that were based in Newfoundland and

Labrador were doing that work, but the mainland companies found

difficulties. It was difficult

for us to make them be compliant with the legislation.

We thought it would be easier

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Humber East.

MR. FLYNN:

Mr. Speaker, at

yesterday's Estimates for the Department of Business, Tourism, Culture and

Rural Development, the minister would not commit to fill the promised

position for the tourism officer in Labrador that has been vacant for two or

three years.

So I

ask the minister: Given that this position was to be filled within weeks of

last year's Budget, why are you breaking your own commitment yet again to

the people of Labrador?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Business, Tourism, Culture and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

have a number of resources that are serving the people of Labrador through

my department, not only through the Tourism branch but through the old

Innovation, Business and Rural Development branch.

I am certainly quite happy with the level of service that we provide

there.

As I

said to the member yesterday in Estimates, my answer has not changed on

that. There is a vacant position

there and we are currently assessing whether we will refill the position and

in its current location, or whether we will fill it and move it into a

different location, or whether we will not fill it at all.

When I make a decision, I will gladly share it with him in the House

of Assembly.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Humber East.

MR. FLYNN:

Mr. Speaker, Labrador has

world-class attractions which speak directly to the kind of tourists we

would like to see visiting our area, including a world heritage UNESCO site

at Red Bay, a national park, and the finest hunting and fishing in all of

North America, just to name a few.

Yet, this portion of the Province has been ignored.

So,

I ask the minister: Will you review this knee-jerk decision and hire a

tourism officer for Labrador to help build on the region's tourism

potential?

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Business, Tourism, Culture and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Mr. Speaker, nothing

could be more ridiculous than to suggest that we have ignored the

opportunities for tourism in Labrador.

We spend about $13 million a year right now on advertisements,

tourism ads that bring people to the Province, to the Island of Newfoundland

and also to Labrador, Mr. Speaker.

We have helped grow the tourism industry there because of significant

investments by our government.

So,

to stand here and suggest that we are ignoring tourism in Labrador is

absolutely terrible and ludicrous.

We will continue to invest in tourism in Labrador as we have always

done and help grow the industry there as we do on the Island part of

Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Conception Bay South.

MR. HILLIER:

Mr. Speaker, in the

Provincial Healthy Aging Policy Framework, government set the following

goals: promote the national goal of a 10 per cent increase in physical

activity among seniors and explore the feasibility of provincial seniors'

games.

ask the minister: To what degree has your department achieved these

important goals for seniors?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Seniors, Wellness and Social Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, I think all

the hon. member has to do is to look at our record of investments in

seniors, from seniors rec grants to seniors' wellness grants.

Take a look at some of the funding that we have approved over the

last number of years, Mr. Speaker, just to see how active our seniors are in

Newfoundland and Labrador. That

speaks to the record itself.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Conception Bay South has time for a quick question.

MR. HILLIER:

Mr. Speaker, seniors have

seen a significant increase in their fees to participate in swimming

programs at provincial pools.

The fees have gone from $20 to $50 for a twenty-session swim pass, much

higher than municipal rates in Mount Pearl and Conception Bay South.

Wellness programs and physical activity for seniors promotes healthy

living.

ask the minister: Why are you defying your own healthy aging framework by

making it too expensive for seniors to use provincial pools?

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Seniors, Wellness and Social Development has time for a quick reply.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, I will

answer in line with what I responded to yesterday.

The pools that he is talking about are three that have a unique

arrangement. These three pools

now we have brought in line comparable and in some cases lower than all the

other jurisdictions across the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Signal Hill Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL:

Thank you very much, Mr.

Speaker.

Yesterday, the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills told this House

that the government is reorganizing health care through consolidation into

one entity as has happened with the school boards.

ask the Premier: Will he confirm that Budget 2015's plan for a stand-alone

shared-service organization of the regional health boards is actually

consolidation into one health authority?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KENT:

Mr. Speaker, I obviously

have to begin by thanking the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills for

answering the questions yesterday.

be clear, what we said during the Budget and what I have said numerous times

since in this House is that we are going to consolidate back office

administrative functions of the four regional health authorities and the

Newfoundland and Labrador Centre for Health Information.

It will be a stand-alone public body.

It will improve the efficiency of our health care system and allow

our regional health authorities to focus on what they are in place to do,

which is deliver quality health care to the people of Newfoundland and

Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Signal Hill Quidi Vidi.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MS MICHAEL:

I invite the minister to

read Hansard, Mr. Speaker, and hear what the Minister of Advanced Education

and Skills said. He said it

would be the same as we have done with the school boards.

What they did with the school boards was one school board.

I want a straight answer and the people want a straight answer.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MS MICHAEL:

Are you headed towards

one health authority Premier?

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

The

hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KENT:

Mr. Speaker, we have

unique geography in this Province.

Our population is dispersed despite the fact that we only have just

over 500,000 people in this Province.

If we had intended to consolidate the entire regional health

authorities, we would have done so.

believe the best structure for health care and health care delivery in

Newfoundland and Labrador is the one that we have proposed.

It will allow the four regional health authorities to focus on their

real mandate, which is delivering health services, while consolidating the

back office stuff and finding efficiencies in information technology,

finance, payroll, marketing and communications, areas where it makes sense

for the health authorities to work together and act as one.

is a sensible approach, but she is probably against that too, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Signal Hill Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL:

Thank you very much, Mr.

Speaker.

ask the minister, since they are using what happened with the school boards

as the model that is what the minister said I ask: How much did the

Province?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KENT:

Mr. Speaker, there will

be real savings by consolidating back office functions within our regional

health authorities, functions like purchasing and human resources, to name a

couple of others. We are going

to create a stand-alone shared services organization that will work closely

with our regional health authorities.

As a result, there will be significant savings.

This

has nothing to do with school boards, Mr. Speaker, and the member opposite

knows that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY:

Mr. Speaker, documents

related to the operations of the new 911 service in the Province reinforced

the term two-tiered. There is a

distinct difference between a call taker and a dispatcher.

ask the minister: Why the two-tiered set-up of 911 in the Province?

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister

Responsible for Fire and Emergency Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Mr. Speaker, I am not

sure where the member is getting his information.

fairness to the Member for Bay of Islands, we had a good discussion on 911

today. The member who asked the

question did not attend the Estimates, but clearly he is missing information

to ask that kind of a question.

There is no two-tiered system.

About fifteen minutes ago I outlined the process of how calls are received

and transferred, and that is the process.

If regions of the Province and municipalities of the Province choose

to add on to that service, it is well within their jurisdictional

responsibility, but the Province does not offer a two-tiered system.

We offer one level with common standard operating procedures across

the entire Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

St. John's East has time for a quick question.

MR. MURPHY:

Mr. Speaker, shouldn't

the department worry first over giving everyone the same 911 service as we

have here in the Northeast Avalon?

That is the question everybody is asking.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister

Responsible for Fire and Emergency Services has time for a quick reply.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. KING:

Mr. Speaker, we have done exactly what the member is asking.

We have made 911 available across the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. KING:

It seems to get the

Opposition members going, the fact that they did not bring the policy

forward. It was our government

who took the forthright and the initiative and the vision to do it.

have a consistent service across the entire Province, Mr. Speaker.

I am not sure where the member is getting misinformed in his

questions.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

The

time for Question Period has expired.

Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.

Tabling of Documents.

Notices of Motion.

Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.

Petitions.

Petitions

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

St. Barbe.

MR. J. BENNETT:

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and

Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents

humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS the communities of New Ferolle, Shoal Cove West, and Reefs Harbour

have always relied on the fishery as a means to earn a sustainable income;

and

WHEREAS the main employer for these three communities has been a seafood

processing plant located in New Ferolle; and

WHEREAS this plant was seized by the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador

as a result of mortgage arrears; and

WHEREAS the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador then permitted an

outside operator to operate the plant but that operator became insolvent and

closed; and

WHEREAS the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador then sold the plan to

another operator for the sum of $1 and has not operated the plant but

instead has stripped most, if not all, of the equipment from the plant

instead of operating it;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to

find a local operator for this plant so that people can go back to work

in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr.

Speaker, in the community of New Ferolle, there is excellent infrastructure

where people can carry on the fishery in a modern, contemporary, small-scale

multi-species plant. There is a

significant sized cold storage.

It is an older plant that has been used for a variety of buying purposes,

there is an office building, and there is a fish plant.

The fish plant is the one that was expropriated not expropriated,

it was repossessed by government.

The

government has let this go through a succession of owners and none of the

owners have had very good results.

In the most recent go around, the plant has been sitting vacant,

sitting idle, licences are assigned to that community, to that operator with

no work, nothing happening for the people in the community.

The

people are looking for employment.

If this plant were operational it could probably employ on a

large-scale basis maybe 150 to 200 people, but on a small-scale basis thirty

or forty or fifty people throughout the entire season.

This is a plant that the Province seems to have washed its hands of

and it is providing absolutely no direction whatsoever in order to get this

moving.

This

is a petition from the people of the three communities New Ferolle, Reefs

Harbour, and Shoal Cove West requesting that the government take action

and move forward on this issue.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE:

Thank you, Mr.

Speaker.

the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament Assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of

Newfoundland and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS government has a responsibility to ensure that Internet access is

broadly available so people have the right to be able to access the Internet

in order to exercise and enjoy their rights to freedom of expression and

opinion and other fundamental human rights; and

WHEREAS the Town of Goose Cove still remains without broadband services; and

WHEREAS residents rely on Internet services for education, business,

communication, and social activity; and

WHEREAS wireless and wired technologies exist to provide broadband service

to rural communities to replace slower dial-up service;

We,

the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge the government to

assist providers to ensure the Town of Goose Cove is in receipt of broadband

services in Newfoundland and Labrador.

in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. MITCHELMORE:

Mr. Speaker, this

petition is signed by all residents there from Goose Cove.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. MITCHELMORE:

I would just like to

say that I have presented a number of petitions on broadband Internet in the

House of Assembly, but they are dwindling in the numbers that I can present.

There are really two towns, Goose Cove and Bide Arm, that are still

without service.

Goose Cove has a significant opportunity when it comes to looking at

broadband service and when it comes to business development in the town.

It would be a great opportunity to establish new business to provide

taxation base in that town to help for sustainability.

It is just 7.9 kilometres from the Town of St. Anthony.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. MITCHELMORE:

When you talk about

growing population and growing economy and talk about creating sustainable

communities, advancing broadband Internet is one of those.

We have a real opportunity here to work with providers, to work with

private and community economic development groups to lever and put together

a good proposal and see that happen for those eighty-four householders in

Goose Cove, so that they could have broadband Internet as other communities

in the region.

Government has invested in seeing communities outlying St. Anthony right now

this will come on stream in just a couple of weeks.

Hopefully we will see that move forward when it comes to Goose Cove

as well. I did not see any

mention to broadband Internet in the Speech from the Throne or the Budget,

but I do understand that there is money that could carry forward.

hope to see greater partnerships happening in advancing business in the

region. I look forward to having

further discussion with the Minister of Business on this particular matter

on behalf of my constituents of Goose Cove.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Signal Hill Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL:

Thank you very much, Mr.

Speaker.

the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents humbly

sheweth:

WHEREAS computer science is the new literacy, and is a vital skill for the

digital age; and

WHEREAS computer science is a growing field of employment, and is one of the

highest paid academic majors; and

WHEREAS computer science education in Newfoundland and Labrador is not

keeping pace with computer science education in other provinces; and

WHEREAS the public education system has a duty to expose students to a wide

variety of subject areas and careers;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to consider adding mandatory computer

science subjects to the public education curriculum.

in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

I am

very honoured today, Mr. Speaker, to stand on behalf of the Code NL, the

organization that has been circulating this petition.

It has been a while since they have sent the petition to me, and I am

very happy to once again stand and speak of the concern that people have

that they themselves and their children are not getting the opportunity for

a full education in this age of technology.

Code

NL has been studying this issue and knows well that we need to be training

more people locally in computer science, because the demand will increase

here and computer science will contribute to the economy.

Code NL says we are way behind other provinces; our education

curriculum is not keeping pace.

There are two unrelated courses in the system: one, which is a course that

is offered in a handful of urban schools; another is a course in robotics

that is offered in twenty schools in the Province.

These are just individual courses.

We do not have a real computer science curriculum;

whereas in

Ontario, they have ten interrelated computer science and computer technology

courses in Grades 10 to 12 offered in a sequence.

So I

encourage the Minister of Education to bring us up to date in this Province.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Conception Bay South.

MR. HILLIER:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and

Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents

of Newfoundland and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS the Town of Conception Bay South is the second largest municipality

in the Province with a population of approximately 26,000 people; and

WHEREAS recent dangerous incidents on community streets have highlighted

concerns of high speed and inadequate traffic control in Conception Bay

South; and

WHEREAS residents, organized groups, and the town continue to raise

awareness about pedestrian traffic along main streets and the lack of police

presence in Conception Bay South; and

WHEREAS residents are increasingly concerned about safety in their

community;

We,

the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge government to review

the level of policing in Conception Bay South, with an objective of

increased policing services and improving public safety for residents.

in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr.

Speaker, this is a petition I have brought forward on several occasions.

I would just like to start right from the very beginning and point

out that in no way am I criticizing the work that RNC officers do in the

Town of Conception Bay South.

They continually present themselves in a most professional manner as they go

about their daily work in making Conception Bay South a safer place for all

of us to live.

speaking with residents, I feel the issue here is tied more to the degree of

policing, the perception of residents, and the visibility of police in the

community, Mr. Speaker. Time and

time again residents will talk about never having seen a police car go up

their street.

Mr.

Speaker, the Premier is fully aware of that because, obviously, at one point

he was a member of the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary.

He was a ward councillor in the Town of Conception Bay South.

I know as the MHA for Topsail, that members of council in Conception

Bay South have continually kept him in the loop about their concerns of

policing in the community.

Mr.

Speaker, at one point in time the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary had a

neighbourhood policing office in the Town of Conception Bay South.

That has been phased out since

AN HON. MEMBER:

In Manuels.

MR. HILLIER:

In Manuels, that is

right, Cherry Lane. That has

been phased out since 2013 and has really not been replaced.

The

Minister of Justice will tell us that the philosophy of our local police

force has changed and is now focused on intelligence-based policing, as

opposed to community-based policing, which was the way the police force

focused when we had our own little substation there in Conception Bay South.

Mr. Speaker, this may very well be the case, but it does not make any

difference to the people of Conception Bay South as they are still concerned

about not seeing a regular police presence in the community.

Mr.

Speaker, as I have gone through the community, there are two areas of focus.

One is the whole concept of

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

remind the hon. member his time has expired.

MR. HILLIER:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

will get the rest in next time.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS Route 510 from L'Anse au Clair to Red Bay is in deplorable condition

and requires immediate upgrading; and

WHEREAS the condition of the highway is causing undue damage to vehicles

using the highway and is a safety hazard for the travelling public; and

WHEREAS both residential and commercial traffic has increased dramatically

with the opening of the Trans-Labrador Highway and increased development in

Labrador; and

WHEREAS cold patching is no longer adequate as a means of repair;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to

immediately allocate resources to Route 510 from L'Anse au Clair to Red Bay

that allows for permanent resurfacing of the highway.

in duty bound your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr.

Speaker, I have been up numerous times over the last couple of years on this

petition for the people of Cartwright L'Anse au Clair, and indeed the

people of all Labrador who travel this stretch of highway, and I will

continue to do that. Route 510

from L'Anse au Clair to Red Bay

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MS DEMPSTER:

In Question Period today

there were some questions around a tourism development officer for Labrador.

My colleague for Humber West talked about the tourism opportunities

there. I am going to be talking

about that later today. It is

all part and parcel and it fits together to entice tourists to come into the

area and for us to get in on that one billion dollar industry that the

Premier talks about is a priority for him and this Province.

Mr. Speaker, we have to have roads that are safe to drive on.

went on the website today for Transportation and Works, and several lines

there in the things they value, safety was at the top.

Well, I can tell you, Mr. Speaker, that anybody, especially people

who are not familiar with just how dilapidated that the road is, it is

decades beyond its expiration date.

If you get off the ferry after dark, that is if you can get through

the ice, and you get off and you are driving that road, you are taking your

own life in your hands. It is a

very serious threat to safety.

Mr.

Speaker, I said it here before and I will say it again, where is Route 510

on this government's list of priorities?

Where is it? Because if

they are out doing roadwork and they are allocating resources according to

need and there is a stretch of road in the Province that is worse than this,

I would love to go and see it. I

would love to go there.

Mr.

Speaker, I am concerned about the children who are bused every day on this

road. My heart goes out to the

people with broken femurs who have to travel by ambulance on this.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MS DEMPSTER:

It is time for us to get

our priorities in order and to let these people know where they are on the

list of priorities for roadwork because the road is in an extremely bad

shape, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Orders of the Day.

Orders of the Day

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Government

House Leader.

MR. KING:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. KING:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

appreciate the encouragement from members opposite.

this time we will call Motion 1 from the Table, that the House approves in

general the budgetary policy of the government, the Budget Speech.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Motion 1.

We will resume debate on the Budget Speech, debating the

sub-amendment.

recognize the hon. the Member for Kilbride.

MR. DINN:

Mr. Speaker, it would be

nice if I had a wall or something here so I would not be drifting over away

from the microphone. I think

this comes from my teaching days where you would be up talking to a class

and you would wander around all over the place.

want to address some of the comments made last week about unemployment and

employment here in this Province.

We were kind of accused as a government of creating unemployment

problems here, that we have done nothing to stimulate the economy or to

create jobs.

want to go back to the year 2000, that is fifteen years ago.

At that time, in 2000, the unemployment rate here in Newfoundland and

Labrador was 16.6 per cent.

AN HON. MEMBER:

How much?

MR. DINN:

It was 16. 6 per cent.

was a very difficult time to find a job.

Graduate students from MUN and the trade schools were vying or

competing with other people for truck driving jobs.

They were looking for delivery jobs and department store jobs.

mentioned before in the House of Assembly, there was a company on Topsail

Road that advertised for a van driver's job in the local media.

Five hundred people showed up at the door of that company looking for

that job. Some of the people who

showed up were people with university degrees and other trades.

those days it was not uncommon to see a dozen people or more every morning

at construction sites looking for a job.

Also, in those days there were many, many you would not see help

wanted signs like you do today.

If you look around today you will see a lot of help wanted signs.

These signs are at take-outs and other food establishments.

You will find them at home care facilities; farmers are even looking

for workers.

was only recently I had been talking to a young farmer who spent months

looking for someone to go to work on his farm.

After several months, he did find somebody he could hire.

I have had other farmers phone me, saying, do you know anybody I can

hire to take a job to go on the farm?

I have had companies, when I walk in their yard or something, or see

them at a facility or at a business somewhere else, they say, do you know

anybody looking for a job? Very

often, you did not know anybody because they were not there.

This was not the case years ago.

Back

in the 1990s, it was difficult for students to find a job.

I taught school for many years and during those times it was rare to

have five or six people in your class who worked after school, people who

had a part-time job.

Today that is not the case.

Today any student who wants to work can probably find part-time employment.

Very often it is not difficult for them to get summer employment

either. That was not the case

ten or fifteen years ago. It is

interesting to note too that many of those students who do work are helping

to finance their own education, which is very good.

I think it helps them avoid debt later on in life for their

schooling.

Last

week, I spoke to people at the Goulds Recreation Committee.

Myself and the Member for Ferryland were at a volunteer reception for

young people at the Goulds Recreation Committee.

Some of those people told me that it is getting increasingly more

difficult every year to get staff for summer employment to staff their

programs.

Ten

or fifteen years ago, this was not the case.

In those days, ten or fifteen years ago, it was not unusual to have

ten times more resums than the jobs that you had available.

People in the Kilbride recreation program tell me the same thing; it

is getting harder to get young people to go to work in the summertime.

So there is work out there.

is also interesting to look at the unemployment statistics for this Province

in previous years to get a true perspective of today's situation.

Did you know that in 1985 the unemployment rate was 20.2 per cent in

this Province? In 1992, 1993,

and 1994 it was still 20 per cent.

In 1995, 1996, and 1997 it was 18 per cent or a bit higher.

In 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003 it was 16 per cent and a bit

higher.

2004 it was 15.6 per cent and for the next nine years, it went progressively

downwards to 12.3 per cent. In

2013, 2014 it was below 12 per cent for the first time in many, many, many,

many years, probably the first time ever since they started keeping

statistics. Actually in April

this year, this past month, we had a modest gain in employment in this

Province.

is also interesting to note that if we have such a serious unemployment

problem, we note that we are bringing in temporary foreign workers.

Why would you bring in temporary foreign workers if there is no

unemployment problem, or if there is one?

You would be looking at your own environment to solve your problems;

you would not have to bring people in.

To me, the fact that we have to do this means that the unemployment

problem is probably what it always was for the last number of years.

No matter what happens, I do not think that you will get the

unemployment figures down much below ten, no matter what we do.

There are also accusations that we ruined the economy.

Remember, we are part of a global economy, subjected to the ups and

downs of foreign commerce. If

the Chinese do not want to buy iron ore or they want to pay a lower price

for it, then you know what happens.

Oil prices went down; you cannot blame the Premier of this Province

or this government, especially the Minister of Finance, for the fact that

oil has gone down. You might say

that you should have predicted it, but I am sure, like some of us have said

in the last few days, Saskatchewan, Alberta and those people are in the same

boat. None of them knew how to

predict either, so you could only make a guess at what it was going to be.

From

what I can see also, it is just not just rabbit and partridge populations

that are cycling. I think the

economies are also cycling. If

you look over the last number of years you can see periods of time when the

economy was up, followed by a few years when it went down.

This has been going on for as long as I can remember.

Back

in the 1980s and the early 1990s I had a landscaping business.

During that time, in the 1980s things were booming.

I write everything down, as you probably noticed

AN HON. MEMBER:

(Inaudible).

MR. DINN:

You noticed now, did you?

Anyway, during those times I used to have a book with two or three pages

that I could never keep up on. I

always had work, work, and work.

A few years after, in the early 1990s, she went that way; I would have two

or three items in the book that I had to do.

That went on for a few years, then it went up again, then it came

down again. It went up and now

it is down again for a few years.

I believe myself that we are in an environment now where some of the

stuff that we have done in the past, we are much better off than we were

when we had the last real bad downturn.

think that we are cushioned now for a quicker recovery actually.

I do not think it is going to last five years.

I think that in three years' time you are going to see things getting

much better.

AN HON. MEMBER:

(Inaudible).

MR. DINN:

You can write that down

if you like.

The

fact that economies are cycling is reality; this is nothing new.

Budget 2015-2016 deals with issues.

This government is dealing with issues.

I am glad to see that our Premier

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. DINN:

I am having difficulty to

hear myself here now.

I am

going to wait until I get attention again now.

MR. SPEAKER (Littlejohn):

Order, please!

MR. DINN:

Budget 2015-2016 deals

with issues. Our government

deals with issues. The present

Premier is dealing with issues.

The size of the public service in this Province was a big issue.

People have said it is too large.

Experts say that our public service is too large.

We have more public servants per capita than any other province in

this country.

the Budget year like we had coming, in the crunch that we had, we found

ourselves in the situation where our first reaction could have been layoff a

lot of people, send them out the door, but we did not do that.

Now, there are some people, some groups around that would have been

happy that we did that, but we did not do it.

As a government we decided to approach the size of public service

with an attrition plan, an attrition plan that does not lay off 1,200 people

today or tomorrow. Actually, if

it was not an attrition plan and we had planned to cut 1,200 jobs, they

would be gone now. They would

have got their yellow slips or their pink slips last week.

So,

these people would have been gone.

We decided that we would cut the public service as people retired,

and this would allow us and allow people more time.

People do retire, and I think the Attorney General mentioned

yesterday that 400 to 500 people retire per year from the public service.

So, this attrition plan should work, knowing how many people do

retire.

Losing 1,200 jobs or employees all at once would have a tremendous negative

impact on the commerce of this Province.

Can you imagine the trickle-down effect of 1,200 people not having

jobs, losing their jobs all of a sudden?

These are people who are buying houses, buying cars, buying

groceries, buying, buying, and buying.

We would have lost all this economy

AN HON. MEMBER:

(Inaudible).

MR. DINN:

It will be back, don't

you worry.

Two

or three months prior to the Budget, I had a number of people working in the

public service contact me. They

contacted me by phone. I met a

number of them over in the cafeterias here in the Confederation Building.

I visit the cafeteria very often.

I think I eat four or five times a day when I am here at

Confederation Building, so I run into people fairly often.

Some of those people were able to come to me and tell me they were

very, very worried, prior to the Budget coming down, that they were going to

lose their jobs very concerned.

They thought they were going to be out the door any time.

spoke to some of them on the phone and I talked to others, like I said, in

the cafeteria and other places outside these buildings.

These people were worried to death.

I am glad to say that after Budget day these people still had their

jobs, especially those at the lower end of the seniority scale, the young

people who would have been the first to go if layoffs had to occur.

These would be the young people just starting their lives, just

starting their employment lives.

They would have been devastated.

know a couple of these young people in my district.

They had gone back to school, they had gotten off Income Support, and

they were very, very happy working.

If they had to be laid off they would have been devastated.

I can tell you that now, I know.

I do not know how they would have dealt with it.

also had an issue with public pensions.

This government has taken a leadership role in finding a solution to

the liability associated with pension benefits that would have severely

impacted the Province's net debt.

Over the past year we have worked with unions to formalize agreements

that protect the defined benefit plans for approximately 97 per cent of plan

members.

are going to continue work in 2015 and 2016 to address the remaining

unfunded pension liability. I

think that is tremendous. When

you look at figures that we had last year and the year before, given to us

about public debt, a big part of that public debt was pension liability.

We have taken steps to address this.

Budget 2015-2016 puts a plan in place for fiscal recovery.

We have mapped out a strategy for going forward with an emphasis on

trying to stop deficits to reduce debt, and we put in a generation plan with

seed money set aside for future downturns in the economy.

This is facing problems head on and making corrections when they are

needed. We saw, as a government,

that we had a problem and we found a way to deal with this problem.

Budget 2015 and 2016 could have been much worse.

We could have cut many existing programs.

In a budget situation like we found ourselves in we could have

balanced the books by raising taxes a lot more than was done by cutting

services, and laying off employees.

We took a more balanced approach.

Programs for seniors are mostly still in place.

Funding for community groups stayed the same.

Tuition freezes and needs-based grants are still in place, or still

around for secondary students.

There is still a free textbook policy in place for K to 12 students in all

of our schools. Drug programs

are untouched, some are actually enhanced.

The

Rent Subsidy Program is funded again, helping many people.

I do not know how many of you people realize the impact of a Rent

Subsidy Program. If we put a

million dollars in rent subsidies, you are helping probably anywhere from

150 to 250 people with each million.

We have gotten $9 million or $10 million into rent subsidies.

It could be more than that.

I am not sure of the exact number.

So you multiple 150 or 200, probably use 200 as a round number and

times that by ten and you will know how many people you are helping.

These are vulnerable people, people who do need the help, people who

are finding it hard to exist in this economy.

Skill trades programs are included in the 2015-2016 Budget with

improvements. Grant programs for

farmers were not cut. Farmers

can still apply for a Growing Forward 1 program, Growing Forward 2.

It is very important for farmers.

The

Land Consolidation Program is still funded.

For those of you who are not aware of the importance of that program,

the Land Consolidation Program is there to help people, who have farmland

they do not use anymore, sell it to the Province and then the farmers can

use it. It is good for the

people who have the land, who have land that is zoned agricultural and

probably will remain zoned for a long, long time, and it also helps farmers

who are looking for land.

was very interested yesterday when the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture

and Forestry you have a lot of titles mentioned in the House of Assembly

that they are now working on plans to address the issue of food security, a

pet peeve of mine. We bring in

about 90-odd per cent, roughly 90 per cent of the food that we use in this

Province. Having a plan in place

to address that is very, very important.

I do

not know how many of you are aware of it, but if the boat stopped bringing

food here there would not be too many days before you would be short.

I would not, okay. A lot

of you people would not have food.

AN HON. MEMBER:

You would share with

us.

MR. DINN:

No, you would not come to

my place because it is well guarded.

should also mention that Budget 2015-2016 could have eliminated all

infrastructure spending. We had

an adequate excuse to say we cannot do any more, but we did not do that.

We still chose to do roadwork, to build some schools, ferries, but we

did have to put aside some of the large projects until the slowdown is over.

People are complaining that we have not started the Waterford Hospital.

We have not built a prison.

We have not done the hospital in Corner Brook.

The hospital in Corner Brook is on the way.

It will take time.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. DINN:

Yes, it will.

The

west end high school was four or five years getting done.

It will be open this year.

It does not happen all of a sudden.

You are talking many millions of dollars, a lot of money.

We are not in a position to take all of this stuff on today.

I suppose we could have borrowed and had a $3 billion debt, but we

did not.

Budget 2015-2016 could have been worse, like I said before, but we chose to

take a balanced approach. I am

glad we did.

time is nearly up. I have

seventeen seconds fifteen, fourteen.

Thank you very much for your time.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Trinity Bay de Verde.

MR. CROCKER:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The

Member for Kilbride is a hard act to follow.

Mr.

Speaker, it is my pleasure to stand this afternoon and represent the people

of the District of Trinity Bay de Verde and take some time to talk about

Budget 2015.

First, I am going to talk a little bit about my district.

I guess some of the ramifications of Budget 2015 on my district and

some of the issues that I found in my district in the short time I have been

the member, since November, about six months, I guess.

Mr.

Speaker, when you look at Trinity Bay de Verde, the major issue always

comes back to the fishery. One

thing I have seen in my time around the House of Assembly in the last year

or so, first as a staff person, was the co-operation between all three

parties when it came to the inshore shrimp.

Inshore shrimp, Mr. Speaker, in the District of Trinity Bay de Verde is

huge. The economic impacts that

we face every day are beyond compare I guess to most districts in the

Province. I am just going to

give you some numbers.

Mr.

Speaker, in looking at the report of the FFAW, in Bay de Verde last year

there was 3 million pounds of shrimp landed; in Old Perlican, 3.3 million

pounds of shrimp. Alone, shrimp

in Old Perlican and Bay de Verde accounted for over 6.3 million pounds.

The economic impact of this to the local district and to the economy

of the Bay de Verde Peninsula Routine Maintenance and Fuel in 2014: Old

Perlican there was a total of $515,000; Bay de Verde, $418,000; and Hant's

Harbour, $22,000.

These are small municipalities, Mr. Speaker.

When you look at the tax base of these municipalities you look at

Bay de Verde for example. Bay de

Verde's tax base is 44.5 per cent revenue from commercial taxes.

I can assure you that is all fish plant.

Other than one or two small local stores, 44.5 per cent of the tax

base in Bay de Verde is the fishing industry.

When you go and look at Old Perlican, it is a little bit of a larger

town, and a bigger commercial tax base.

Even so, 39.8 per cent of the tax base in Old Perlican comes from

commercial enterprises.

our population ages, we also look at these communities again.

I do not mean to single out these two communities, but these two

communities are so important and this industry is so important to our

district. Mr. Speaker, 46.2 per

cent of the people in Bay de Verde work directly in the fishing industry.

In Old Perlican, it is 43.9 per cent of the working population.

AN HON. MEMBER:

How many?

MR. CROCKER:

It is 43.9 per cent in

Old Perlican work in the fishing industry.

Mr.

Speaker, I encourage government, the Opposition, and the Third Party to stay

working diligently for the shellfish industry in our Province.

Mr.

Speaker, also in Budget 2015 there was some more money allocated for the

Heart's Content Cable Station, the Provincial Historic Site.

The renovations have started there over the winter.

They are continuing on the exterior and they are nearing completion.

MR. A. PARSONS:

(Inaudible).

MR. CROCKER:

Well, that is coming, I

say to the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

was a little disappointed to learn yesterday in Estimates, Mr. Speaker, that

under the heading of special celebrations there has been no money directly

earmarked for the 150 th anniversary of the landing of the first

transatlantic cable, which would be next year, 2016.

So, I encourage the minister and I encourage the government to look

at the 150 th anniversary of the transatlantic cable in Heart's

Content, and ensure that the proper funding is in place next year for those

celebrations.

Mr.

Speaker, the Member for Burgeo La Poile just reminded me of a picture that

I took back late last fall. It

was in front of the cable station 149 years since the transatlantic cable

was landed ironically that was somewhat the birthplace for

telecommunications in North America, and now it is a dead zone when it comes

to cellphone coverage. The

District of Trinity Bay de Verde has little or no cellphone coverage in

talk about economic diversification as we look around.

One of the failures of this government over its twelve years in

office is a failure to diversify the economy, because one of the things that

is so important in rural economies is cellphone coverage.

Again, cellphone coverage was not mentioned in Budget 2015.

Mr.

Speaker, another issue I hear lots of in my district, both from individuals

and municipal councils, is their inability to access Crown lands for future

development. Now, I know the

minister a couple of weeks ago addressed this in an announcement, and I do

hope that the Department of Municipal Affairs addresses this issue as soon

as possible to ensure that municipalities and private business people in

districts, in rural districts, have the ability to develop.

Mr.

Speaker, I guess I would be remiss if did not take advantage of some of

these nice, glossy documents provided to us by the government at taxpayers'

cost. I was impressed on Budget

day, there was it was about that thick, a nice, glossy document.

Let me just cherry-pick a bit around a few of them.

I will not go in too deep, but I will cherry-pick some stuff.

The

first one, obviously the title of the Budget is

Balancing Choices for a Promising

Future . Twelve years in, the

government now decides that they are going to balance our choices for a

promising future. Mr. Speaker,

here are some of the highlights of Budget 2015.

This is the government's document; these are some of the highlights

of Budget 2015. The deficit for

2014-2015 projected at mid-year was $916 million; revised upwards, $924

million. That is a result,

according to this glossy document, of the decrease in oil revenues.

The

ironic part, Mr. Speaker, when oil was $103 a barrel back in the spring or

late winter of 2014, this government in its last Budget projected a deficit

of over $500 million. So even

when oil was at its highest, oil was at its highest peak or some of its

highest peak, $103 a barrel or somewhere in that vicinity, we were looking

at a Budget deficit last year of over $500 million.

This was not sprung on us overnight.

This has been coming for a while.

It is like the freight train.

Budget 2015 outlines a five-year fiscal recovery plan.

I guess, Mr. Speaker, we are going to recover from the twelve years

of mismanagement. I would think

it is a five-year plan to recover from the past twelve years.

By the way, we are going to return to surplus in 2020 and 2021.

Again, that is on projected oil revenues.

The Member for St. John's East pointed out yesterday afternoon that

looking that far into the future at oil revenues is probably not a safe bet

is that fair, Mr. Murphy?

After ten years of significant growth, economic conditions in Newfoundland

and Labrador have weakened but they are expected to rebound by 2019.

It is good to know. Mr.

Speaker, the government produces a five-year plan for recovery, and I think

it is a five-year plan from recovery of twelve years of mismanagement.

Mr.

Speaker, one move the government did make in Budget 2015 was an increase in

the HST, 2 per cent. The HST,

being obviously a consumption tax, is going to affect each and every one of

us in this Province. It is going

to take an already slower economy or a slowing economy and slow it even

more. It is going to affect

those in society: our seniors, our lower income people; they are the ones

going to be affected the most. I

know, Mr. Speaker, that the government is going to tell us oh no, that is

okay; we are going to give them back that money in October with a $300 tax

credit and we are going to increase the threshold.

Mr.

Speaker, for the senior paying a heat bill in February or the parents buying

sneakers and school supplies in September, that $300 in October is not going

to help. That $300 cash infusion

in October is not going to help the other eleven months of the year.

Mr.

Speaker, the government also made a move in this Budget quickly to remove

the Residential Energy Rebate.

Again, that is another move that is going to affect likely our seniors and

most vulnerable again.

Mr.

Speaker, I think a week before the Budget the Member for Conception Bay

South entered a private member's motion for a seniors' advocate, similar to

the Advocate we have for children in our Province.

It was astonishing that day to hear the members opposite say how

one member, I think it was the Member for Exploits, made the comment that we

do lots for seniors. Mr.

Speaker, we can never do enough for our seniors.

They are the people who have built our economies; they have built our

communities. So when it comes to

providing for our seniors, I do not think we can ever do enough.

I am

going to put down this little glossy document and go yet to another one,

same title, Balancing Choices for a

Promising Future . I am going

to go to 2015 Expectations: Economic growth is expected to remain subdued in

2015. Real GDP is forecast to

decrease by 0.3 per cent.

Household income is expected to increase it is an increase, Mr. Speaker

by 0.2 per cent. By the way, as

household income increases by 0.2 per cent, consumer prices are expected to

increase by 1 per cent, and we are going to add a 2 per cent HST increase on

that. The modest increase in

household income will certainly be offset by the government's increase in

the HST.

Employment is expected to average 234,000, down from 2014, so employment is

down. Retail sales are expected

a modest decrease of 0.3 per cent to $8.9 billion.

Mr. Speaker, my guess would be, and I am not an economist by any

stretch of the imagination, but once January 1, 2016 comes and we bring in a

2 per cent increase in the HST, if government predicts a modest decline this

year in retail sales, look out in 2016.

Oil

production is supposed to decrease; the Province's population, decrease;

mineral exploration is also going to decrease; fish landings in our Province

are going to remain stable.

Well, Mr. Speaker, stable is good; we can handle stable.

This government also has to prepare for the return of groundfish.

was in Grates Cove; it will be two weeks this Saturday, I met with the

Harbour Authority. One of the

things that the seventeen crews that fish Grates Cove were talking about is

they have a quota, I think it is 3,000 pounds currently.

Seventeen crews in Grates Cove fishing 3,000 pounds of cod.

We have to ensure with the federal government that the basic

infrastructure is in place and our marketing is in place so that when cod

does return, we are ready for that change.

Mr.

Speaker, another expectation of the government's Budget this year is a 9.6

per cent decline in housing starts.

It is quite interesting that is the government's document.

Yesterday in a couple of news articles the Minister of Finance I

have an

article here from The Telegram . The

minister acknowledges the Province is in a recession.

In another

article the Minister of Finance says: economic indicators

are strong, despite recession.

Economic indicators, Mr. Speaker I just spoke of some of the economic

indicators. GDP in 2015 is down,

final domestic product is down, household incomes are down, disposable

income is down, retail sales are down, and the Consumer Price Index is up.

AN HON. MEMBER:

That is not a good

thing (inaudible) inflation.

MR. CROCKER:

Yes, that is inflation.

Yes, you are correct.

Housing starts, as I just mentioned a moment ago, are down 9.6 per cent.

Unemployment is up, the labour force is down, and the population is

down. Mr. Speaker, I am happy

that the Finance Minister sees the positive indicators, despite we are in a

recession.

Bear

with me, Mr. Speaker, there is so much in these documents.

I will put that one down and go to another one.

MR. S. COLLINS:

Do you want me to

sing a song in the book?

MR. CROCKER:

No, I say to the Member

for Terra Nova, there is no need for him to sing this afternoon.

want to refer back to another glossy document.

This glossy document is called

Securing the Future: A 10-Year Sustainability Plan for Newfoundland and

Labrador . This stability

plan and we know this government has lots of plans, lots of paper, and

lots of glossy documents. This

one is dated March 26, 2013, so a little over two years ago, at which time

the government was going to eliminate the deficit this year actually

government is going to get rid of the deficit; 2015-2016, the deficit was

gone.

Government at that time, Mr. Speaker, was committing to long-term planning.

I find there is one interesting

section in the sustainability plan;

it is on page 14. The Auditor

General warns back in his 2012 report, and I quote, World oil prices are

highly volatile and production levels related to non-renewable resources can

vary significantly. Therefore,

changes in these factors can result in significant changes in revenue from

year to year .

AN HON. MEMBER:

That was only three

years ago.

MR. CROCKER:

Yes, three years ago the

Auditor General said this is one of the government's glossy documents

world oil prices are highly volatile.

We knew that three years ago, but oh no, we did not plan.

We never, ever considered it.

There was never a rainy day fund.

remember one of the things in the early 1990s when the Chrtien government

came to power in Ottawa and I guess I am a little biased.

One of the things, probably the best Finance Minister in Canadian

history, Paul Martin, always did was he had a contingency fund.

He built a contingency fund into his Budget because Canada is a

natural-resources-based economy.

One thing we know about economies based on natural resources is it is

volatile. We look today at Lab

West and we see the changes in iron ore prices and the havoc that is causing

in Lab West, but to offset that we have to plan.

Now,

after twelve years of government, and their new eight pillars pillar

number eight is a legacy fund or a heritage fund or some kind of fund.

So seventeen years after taking power good planning seventeen

years after taking power this government is going to plan for a rainy day,

Mr. Speaker. Seventeen years

after taking government.

2021, I say to the member, I think this government is going to be ready to

plan for the future.

MS C. BENNETT:

(Inaudible).

MR. CROCKER:

Yes, good point, I say to

the Member for Virginia Waters.

By that time, we will have $14 billion in debt.

just have to refer back to something very early here in the two-year-old

plan. Here we go: In 2004, when

our Administration took office, we inherited the structural deficit of

almost $12 million. Now, we will

dispute that number. I think it

was more like $9.3

AN HON. MEMBER:

Billion.

MR. CROCKER:

Billion, sorry.

That is a B. Yes, B for

Bob.

the last ten years this government has taken us 180, plus a few billion.

In 2004, we had a $9.3 billion structural deficit, and in 2019 this

government is telling us that we are going to have a $14.9 billion

structural deficit. Mr. Speaker,

astonishing. It is almost double

in seventeen years.

see my time is running out, Mr. Speaker.

I am only about 25 per cent through my glossy documents but I will

get another couple of opportunities in the coming days and hopefully at that

time I will get through the rest of my glossy documents.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Minister of

Seniors, Wellness and Social Development.

MR. JACKMAN:

That is it, Mr. Speaker,

that is one of them.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

is a pleasure to get up and speak to the Budget.

I am going to take a little bit of a

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. JACKMAN:

I am going to take a

little bit of a different approach, I think, Mr. Speaker, but before I get

into that I would like to just speak to some of the points that the member

just talked about.

Mr.

Speaker, the volatility of oil has always been there, there is no doubt

about that. I think if a lot of

people had tried to predict where it was going to be about a year and a half

ago, even though people will talk to volatility, I do not think anyone would

have predicted it would have gone to where it is at this particular point.

much as the member might want to paint the terrible stories and whatnot, I

just want to point out a couple of things to him.

That since they have been recording unemployment statistics

nationally, 2013 and 2014 were the lowest numbers of unemployment that

Newfoundland and Labrador ever had.

The lowest it has ever had.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, there is

another statement I would ask the member to go and take a look at.

There was a May 8

article that came out and quoted Stats Canada.

In terms of Atlantic Canada, it says that Newfoundland and Labrador

was the only province that saw job gains.

As a matter of fact, Mr. Speaker, some 2,200.

I want to speak to the people of the Province through this means,

those who are listening, please do not take the message that everything is

doom and gloom.

Mr.

Speaker, I think the Premier said it.

I heard him in an interview one day and he said, this is a bump in

the road and we are asking the people of the Province to work with us.

Things are going to be okay.

We will get through this and continue the good work that is going on

in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr.

Speaker, we in this House are called upon from time to time to get up and

speak for ten, fifteen, or twenty minutes

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. JACKMAN:

and oftentimes, Mr.

Speaker, we are called upon by someone who leading a piece of legislation

and say, would you mind getting up to speak?

Oftentimes we get up on very short notice and speak in this House,

Mr. Speaker.

speaking to the Budget, I thought what I would do is I would take it from

two perspectives: one is the challenges that we were faced with and how we

dealt with them. Do you know

what, Mr. Speaker? The second

point, this is the Budget we are going to be taking to the people of the

Province in an election, and these are the people who will judge.

I am going to ask something of the people who speak here now shortly.

Mr.

Speaker, I have sat around a Cabinet table for eight years, a little over

eight years, and I have been through a budget process eight years in a row.

I am going to tell you, Mr. Speaker, the discussions we had around

this Budget were more intense.

It was longer than either of the previous years that I have sat around that

table.

looked at decisions, we brought forward suggestions, proposals were brought

forward, we assessed them, we reassessed them, we put them in, we took them

out, reconsidered, and, Mr. Speaker, like I said, there was more discussion

went into this Budget from what I have sat around the table in the past

eight years than I have ever seen before.

Mr.

Speaker, I would just like to outline the approach.

I will say to the members who are heckling a little bit, I am not

here, standing up and speaking to this Budget in a joking way.

I am serious when I speak about it, and speak about the direction

that we had to take.

MR. J. BENNETT:

You should be wearing

black.

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, the Member

for St. Barbe suggests we should be wearing black.

I hope the people of the Province are paying attention to those kinds

of commentaries because that will tell you the difference between that crowd

and our crowd.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, I am

thinking that he is suggesting we wear black because it is doom and gloom.

We on this side certainly do not believe that.

Mr.

Speaker, I will say to you that when we went into the Budget process, just

through my Department of Seniors, Wellness and Social Development, we could

have cut funding to community organizations and sports groups.

We could have cut funding in the Poverty Reduction Strategy.

We could have cut funding for the supports that we offer to seniors.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

There are many conversations going on both sides of the House and it is very

difficult to listen to the hon. minister and hear the hon. minister.

If we could, on both sides, can we carry our conversations on both

sides?

Thank you.

The

hon. the Minister of Seniors, Wellness and Social Development.

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, we could

have cut dollars from the Disability Policy Office.

In AES, we could have cut Income Support.

We could have cut JCPs.

We could have cut the apprenticeship programs.

We could have cut training programs.

We could have laid off people, but we did not do that.

said that we needed to be measured.

That is why, Mr. Speaker, we came up with the attrition plan.

The purpose of the attrition plan is that as people retire we replace

a certain number. If we had gone

with layoffs, who would have been the first ones who would have been laid

off? The young people who are

entering our workforce, so we did not want to go there.

Mr.

Speaker, I caution people because there has been commentary made in this

House. The Member for Virginia

Waters has said it on occasions.

It has been in the newspaper.

She has tipped her hand. She has

indicated there will be cuts.

The one thing that she has not figured out yet is where.

MS C. BENNETT:

Mr. Speaker, a point

of order.

MR. SPEAKER:

The hon. the Member for

Virginia Waters on a point of order.

MS C. BENNETT:

Mr. Speaker, I

correct the minister on the opposite side and say that what I have clearly

said repeatedly is respecting the public sector, but more importantly,

cutting the waste out that this government continues to waste today.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

There is no point of

order.

The

hon. the Minister of Seniors, Wellness and Social Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, I will tell

you

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, when you see

a response like that, and the onslaught of applause, that tells you are

hitting a nerve. You are hitting

a nerve.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

I will credit people

they are the ones who will see through it, Mr. Speaker.

The

second thing we had to do we had to be measured because you did not want

to go in and just throw everything into disarray.

Mr. Speaker, the second thing we had to do is we had to be balanced.

We knew there were things that we had to do, but we had to be

balanced. There were things that

could be cancelled. I will say

to the people in my district, we have approved dollars for a protective

custody unit a dementia unit in my district.

Mr.

Speaker, I would say to the people, just be a little bit wary, just be a

little bit wary as to if you are hearing comments from the Member for

Virginia Waters talking about she is going in, she does not know where, but

she is going to just be wary of some of the things that might disappear.

we had to be balanced.

AN HON. MEMBER:

Fear mongering.

MR. JACKMAN:

Someone across the floor

is saying fear mongering. No, I

give the people of the Province more credit than that.

They will decide.

had to find balance. We knew

there were projects that had to be done.

It is quite obvious and evident to people around the areas in Gander,

I will say, and on the Avalon, out around Bay Roberts, schools have to be

built. Students have to have

places whereby they have to sit.

There are places, Mr. Speaker, where students have to sit.

We have the demand of increased population growth; therefore, we have

no choice. There are other

projects in schools that need to happen.

There are renovations that have to be carried out.

So,

Mr. Speaker, we were measured in our approach and we were balanced in our

approach. There were some

projects that we have heard in the media that people are disappointed that

they did not get the go-ahead.

Well, I would ask those people to recognize that we do face this bump in the

road and that we would ask that they work with us, because we still are

committed.

heard an interview around the Waterford Hospital and I will tell you, in

that intense debate that was one that we did have a lengthy discussion on.

As the minister has indicated, as we have said, we are still

committed to that project, and we would ask people just to bear with us.

So,

Mr. Speaker, we had choices to make.

We wanted to be measured and we wanted to be balanced.

So where are we now?

That leads me into my second part.

We are now we know it, that sometime this fall we are going to be

heading into an election. What

we are going to have to do is we are going to have to trust on the people to

decide. Everyone knows that

ultimately it is the people of the Province who will decide.

Mr.

Speaker, we have heard on several occasions, they have talked about

misspending and we went and did projects that we did not plan.

Well, whether they like it or not and I do not like going to

history too much, but there were many projects that we had to get into.

remember early when we came into power, if there was one thing that we heard

over and over again, was about mould in schools.

I come from that in my previous career, Mr. Speaker.

We heard about those projects that required mould remediation.

We had no choice. We had

to go down that road. That is

where we did go. The number of

schools that we built, we have gone down that road.

Let

me tell you, I will just reflect a little bit on the Burin Peninsula.

The CT scan was a piece of equipment that was required.

One of the biggest issues that residents faced at that particular

point, and I really felt for the individuals who needed that service, that

for three days a week the people had to leave the Burin Peninsula and they

drove either an hour-and-a-half to Clarenville, if they could get in, or

more of a requirement is they drove three times a week into St. John's,

received dialysis, and then had to drive back.

Mr.

Speaker, when I leave government, if there is one thing that I can say that

I am more than proud of being a part of was putting that dialysis unit down

there.

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN:

That means that an

individual can now get in their vehicle and the longest they probably have

to go it about thirty to forty minutes.

I know people who are in that and I know how draining it is on them

to receive dialysis. I can only

imagine that three-hour drive one way, six hours on the road, three times a

week to receive dialysis.

So,

Mr. Speaker, put all the political rhetoric aside, I do not care what

anybody says, we did not have to do that and we could have continued the old

practice, but that was a worthy, worthy investment.

Mr.

Speaker, another one

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

MR. JACKMAN:

The Premier, the Minister

of Health, a number of us, went out in Paradise and went to the announcement

around the private-public non-profit partnerships.

That will be the creation of 360 beds.

Now there has been some question as to where

SOME HON. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER:

Order, please!

ask hon. members if they want to have a sidebar conversation, they take it

outside of the Chamber.

The

hon. the Minister of Seniors, Wellness and Social Development.

MR. JACKMAN:

Mr. Speaker, I never did

think I would spark that much reaction, but it is getting there.

About the creation of 360 long-term care beds do you know the biggest

question I received on that?

When will they be available? The

minister has gotten into the recognition that we can do these more cost

efficient, we can do them faster and with our aging demographics, it is

where we need to go.

Mr.

Speaker, I have to say another one.

The Member for Virginia Waters got up the other day and spoke to what

we have done, how we have neglected Corner Brook pulp and paper.

Mr. Speaker, we offered $110 million support, and I will tell you the

other thing that I am not that fond of hearing.

She made this comment; the Office of Public Engagement, she referred

to it as the department of clickers.

Now, Mr. Speaker, the Office of Public Engagement has gone around the

Province and has held multiple sessions to seek input from people.

have been to a number of those sessions and you know the difference in

those. Oftentimes when they hold

these sessions, you will get three or four people who parade to a microphone

and they are the ones who put their views forward and oftentimes that is

what dominates the conversation.

The Office of Public Engagement, through the use of new technology, as she

refers to it as clickers, have engaged more people.

I have heard from people who have attended these sessions and they

have said they very much appreciate the opportunity to provide their input.

Mr.

Speaker, I have also heard some commentary about Nalcor, whether we should

be investing in Nalcor. Somebody

said something to me a couple of years ago that really resonated.

They said they want Nalcor to become Norway's Statoil.

Anybody who follows Statoil Statoil is a renowned recognized entity that

goes all over the world to make investments in the oil industry and the

returns go back to Norway. Mr.

Speaker, that is what we need of Nalcor.

That

is why I can guarantee you, anybody who asks me publicly where I stand on

our financial support for

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