Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 22 November 2012 (47th General Assembly, 1st Session)

2012-11-22

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Members' Statements; Statements by Ministers — 22 November 2012 (47th General Assembly, 1st Session)

2012-11-22

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

November 22, 2012 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS Vol. XLVII No.

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman): Order, please!

Admit strangers.

Today, before we start proceedings of the House, I want to welcome some

special guests to the Assembly. Today, we are very privileged to be visited by

Chief Warrant Officer Terry Hurley. Warrant Officer Hurley retired yesterday

after giving forty-one years of service to the Canadian Military.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: He is joined, obviously, by his very supportive wife

Roxanne, for being by his side for those forty-one years.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: We are also very glad this afternoon to have with us members

of the Immaculate Conception School Council in our galleries.

Welcome to our House of Assembly.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

Statements by Members

MR. SPEAKER: Today, we have members' statements from: the Member for the

District of Port au Port; the Member for the District of Bonavista North; the

Member for the District of St. John's West; the Member for the District of

Kilbride; the Member for the District of Torngat Mountains; and the Member for

the District of Exploits.

The Member for the District of Port au Port.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CORNECT: Mr. Speaker, I rise today in this hon. House to congratulate

two business owners in the District of Port au Port who were recently recognized

with awards during the Small Business Week activities sponsored by the Bay St.

George Chamber of Commerce.

Jason Chaffey, owner and operator of Pizza Delight received the Leo Bruce

Award for Entrepreneurial Excellence.

Mr. Speaker, Jason Chaffey has been with Pizza Delight for twenty-four years.

The business employs eighteen full-time employees. Jason received this award not

only for his successful business skills, but also for his involvement in the

community and his support for other local businesses.

Mr. Speaker, the Lifetime Achievement Award was presented to the Lourdes

CO-OP. The Lourdes CO-OP has been serving its community for many, many years and

it is great to see this business being recognized during Small Business Week,

not only for its long-standing business service but also for its contribution to

the community and the region.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all hon. Members of the House of Assembly to join with me

in congratulating Pizza Delight and the Lourdes CO-OP for being recognized, and

I wish these and all business continued success in our Province.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Bonavista North.

MR. CROSS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is with great pleasure that I stand today and speak about the highlight of

my first year as MHA. On September 6, I attended a very special event. The

family and friends of Mrs. Emma Hunt gathered at Badger's Quay to celebrate her

one hundredth birthday. Mrs. Hunt, a long-time resident of Valleyfield,

currently resides at Bonnews Lodge in Badger's Quay.

Aunt Emma greeted family and friends throughout the afternoon, and she was

very active in deciding details of her party. When the lunch menu was discussed,

she made it clear that fish and brews were to be the main course, and it was.

As friends visited to connect and comment on her birthday, she chatted to

those she had not seen for a while. To my father, George, an old friend, she

joked and reminded him that he had not dropped off her bake apples yet a tasty

treat that she looked forward to in season.

As I presented her with the customary certificates from dignitaries, she

said: Oh, such a fuss. Little did she know that we who were present felt as if

we were in the presence of royalty.

I know I felt confident, speaking for you, that with a smile and a hug I

proudly said Happy Birthday for all of you.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. John's West.

MR. CRUMMELL: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to congratulate the Reverend

Canon Doctor Cluett on receiving the Queen's Jubilee Medal. Reverend Cluett has

excelled in both the ecclesiastical and academic fields and was presented with

this medal in a recent ceremony at Government House.

Reverend Cluett has given over fifty years of distinguished service to his

church and community. Over the course of his career, he has served in the parish

ministry throughout Newfoundland and also in Hamilton, Ontario. He has a vast

volunteer experience and has served on numerous church communities, school

boards, as well as the Rotary Club of St. John's.

Mr. Speaker, Reverend Cluett served as a provost of Queen's College at

Memorial University from 1979 until his retirement in 1997. He had a tremendous

impact on the lives of many students during his years at Memorial and he was

also instrumental in re-establishing a Faculty of Theology at the university.

Mr. Speaker, I commend Reverend Cluett for his leadership and dedication to

his church and community, and I ask all hon. members to join me in

congratulating him on receiving the Queen's Jubilee Medal.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for the District of Kilbride.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DINN: Mr. Speaker, I stand today to recognize a great Canadian, Chief

Warrant Officer Terry Hurley, who has retired after forty-one years of military

service. He was born in St. John's, and is one of fifteen children.

Terry joined the Canadian Armed Forces and received his training at

Cornwallis and Gagetown before being posted at Petawawa, Ontario. In 1975, Terry

was promoted to Corporal, and in 1983 promoted to Sergeant.

In 1993 he was posted to CFB Halifax as Training Warrant Officer, and here he

met his wife, Roxanne, who was also serving in the military. In 2004, Chief

Warrant Officer Hurley retired from the regular forces and switched over to the

Reserve Forces with the Royal Newfoundland Regiment.

Terry has had many tours of duty in Cyprus, Egypt, West Germany, Yugoslavia,

and Sierra Leone. Recently, he was awarded the Chief of Defence Staff

Commendation from General Hillier.

In 2010, Chief Warrant Officer Hurley was selected to be the male model for

the CBS monument of honour, representing a World War I soldier.

Terry and his wife live in the Goulds. They have two children and two

grandchildren.

I ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating Terry.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise in this hon. House today to congratulate Susan "Fran" Williams on

receiving the Order of Newfoundland and Labrador, the highest award of

recognition in this Province.

Mr. Speaker, Fran was born to Amos and Verona in Hopedale and learned early

about the way of life in Labrador. Ms Williams graduated from high school, which

was a rare occurrence for Inuit women at the time, and went on to complete

nursing studies in 1967, the first Inuit woman from Hopedale to do so.

After serving five years in the nursing field, Fran accepted a position with

the Company of Young Canadians in Labrador. She became an Inuit Education

Specialist for the provincial Department of Adult Continuing Education and a

liaison worker with the Status of Women.

In 1980, Ms Williams was elected as the first and only female president of

the then Labrador Inuit Association. Her four-year tenure saw important advances

on the path toward Inuit self-government.

Fran help found OKalaKatiget Society in Nain, and continues to play an active

volunteer role in the Nain Crisis Response Team.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating Ms Fran

Williams on receiving the Order of Newfoundland and Labrador award.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Exploits.

MR. FORSEY: Mr. Speaker, on June 9, 2012, Hockey Newfoundland and

Labrador held their annual general meeting and awards banquet. During the

presentations, Brian Tremblett of Bishop's Falls received the Minor Hockey

Meritorious Award for his dedication to minor hockey.

Mr. Speaker, Brian not only volunteers on the local level, as President and

Coach, but also on the provincial and national levels as well. As a provincial

representative, Brian facilitates the Speak Out program in the Central part of

our Province, specifically dealing with bullying, harassment and abuse in the

minor system. With Hockey Canada, he facilitates the safety training program and

this requires all trainers for each team in the minor system to comply with this

program.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all members of this House to join me in congratulating

Brian Tremblett on receiving this award and his dedication to minor hockey.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Statements by Ministers.

Statements by Ministers

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works; and the

Minister Responsible for Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise to share with hon. members today, November 22, National Housing Day,

and how Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation's accomplishments in 2012

continue to address the goals of the Provincial Social Housing Plan Secure

Foundations.

Mr. Speaker, Newfoundland and Labrador Housing have made significant progress

this past number of years. Our rental housing wait list is down 25 per cent over

the past two years and the provincial government has increased and expanded

program funding with the aim of making further gains in addressing social

housing supply and demand.

We have completed the modernization of approximately 70 per cent of our 5,570

Newfoundland and Labrador Housing rental units, up from 30 per cent just five

years ago.

We have tripled annual renovations and modernization funding from our housing

units from $4 million to $12 million.

There has been a 25 per cent drop in maintenance calls over the past three

years which is certainly indicative of the amount of work completed by

Newfoundland and Labrador Housing's skilled workers.

We have quadrupled the Supportive Living Program funding, which creates

housing supports for persons with complex needs, from $1.2 million to $4.8

million.

We have doubled the Rent Supplement Program funding from $4 million to $8

million, and currently have 1,732 subsidized rental units in the private market

to assist people with low incomes.

We have also doubled the Provincial Home Repair Program funding from $4

million to $8 million for a total of $12 million annually in federal-provincial

funding to help people with low incomes make modifications and improvements,

enabling them to remain in their own homes.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, we have introduced very successful new programs

such as the Provincial Homelessness Fund, which helps non-profits expand to

provide services to individuals at risk of homelessness.

The Residential Energy Efficiency Program provides $4 million annually for

energy efficiency retrofits, and our Educational Incentive Program for tenant

families is one program that has supported the increase in the number of youth

studying in school from 48 per cent just four years ago to approximately 75 per

cent today.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador can proudly say we

are providing Secure Foundations, and we are continuing to provide more housing

solutions for individuals and families in greatest need throughout our Province.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for his advance copy. There is no doubt there has been a

lot of money spent on housing in Newfoundland and Labrador Housing and other

needs throughout the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Before I go any further on the government, I would just like to recognize the

employees who work with Newfoundland and Labrador Housing, because they provide

a tremendous support to a lot of the people. I deal with them on the West Coast

and I just wanted to recognize the workers who work with Newfoundland and

Labrador Housing.

I would say to the minister: A lot of the reason why the numbers are down is

because a lot of people are after giving up applying for housing. Even though we

have done a lot over a number of years, there is still a lot left to do. We need

to be vigilant to the needs of the people. As our economy grows in the Avalon

region, so does the need for housing for lower-income people and even sometimes

a lot of times middle-income people, because of the cost of living. We must

remain vigilant.

The other thing is the residential assistance program, which has not been

renewed and will not be renewed with the federal government until 2014. We must

ensure that the federal government once again gets involved with RRAP, as it is

better known in Newfoundland and Labrador, to help out people who can stay in

their own homes.

I can say there has been work done with Newfoundland and Labrador Housing.

There have been a lot of great initiatives taken and a lot of people have

benefited, but we must remain vigilant. We must remain and keep vigilant on

issues that are needed and keep improving in any way we can.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I, too, thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement, and thank

you once again for the re-announcement of existing programs. I commend the

non-profit community groups that are working so diligently on issues of

homelessness and support services for people with complex needs, and the fine

work being done by the staff at Newfoundland and Labrador Housing.

Today I attended a forum on seniors and housing. Research shows that housing

is the number one concern among seniors. All of us in this House know that

because we get those calls. We are in the middle of a housing crisis that is

bigger than social housing.

Seniors, who are among the fastest-growing population in our Province, and

people with physical disabilities are perhaps among the most negatively impacted

by the skyrocketing cost of housing and the lack of accessible, affordable

housing. Young working families having to live with their parents, low- and

middle-income earners are spending more than 30 per cent of their income on

shelter.

Without, Mr. Speaker, an overall housing policy from this government there is

no relief in sight.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the hon. the Member for St. John's South have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: No leave.

MR. SPEAKER: No leave.

The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources and the Minister Responsible for

the Forestry and Agrifoods Agency.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to inform this hon. House about a symposium that will take place

tomorrow, Friday, November 23, in Corner Brook, a symposium that will give

academic leaders and agricultural experts from various institutions the

opportunity to discuss the current agricultural research that is being conducted

in Newfoundland and Labrador.

The event, aptly titled Our Farms, Our Food, Our Future, will identify

opportunities to help strengthen agricultural production and lead the Province

toward an innovative, profitable, and sustainable agricultural industry that

includes more than 600 farms and an estimated 816 farm operators. The industry

is vitally important to Newfoundland and Labrador, from the contribution it

makes to the economies of our rural communities to the fresh local produce it

provides to our residents.

Participants in the symposium will hear about the current agricultural

research being conducted in the Province as well as provincial agricultural

research priorities. The symposium aims to foster partnerships among various

agencies and organizations and will generate next steps and actionable items.

Mr. Speaker, our new agricultural and agrifoods strategy provided the context

for this event. Our Farms, Our Food, Our Future lays the groundwork for the

continued growth of this industry in Newfoundland and Labrador. This strategy

will be used to help those attending the symposium reach the objectives set down

for this event, including the establishment of a shared understanding of

provincial agricultural research priorities.

It is our pleasure to join with Memorial University Grenfell Campus and the

Research and Development Corporation to host this event in Corner Brook.

Our government is committed to continuing its support of the agriculture and

agrifoods sector in Newfoundland and Labrador. We recently concluded

negotiations on a new five-year multilateral framework agreement to replace

Growing Forward, which will expire on March 31.

The new Growing Forward 2 Agreement will commit more money to Newfoundland

and Labrador for strategic initiatives, which could include research and

development as well as focus more attention on food safety initiatives. We

expect all of these initiatives will significantly enhance our ability to grow

more of our own food in this Province and will contribute to the food security

objectives outlined in our strategy.

Mr. Speaker, this industry creates indirect and direct employment for

hundreds of people in communities throughout the Province. Through long-term

planning and events like this symposium, we will ensure the industry for further

generations.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I want to thank the minister for the advance copy of his statement. As you

know, I live in one of the agricultural districts in our Province and, of

course, we see a lot of activity in the District of Humber Valley.

I am, too, pleased to see that the academic leaders and the agricultural

experts are gathering in Corner Brook this week and, of course, hosted by

Grenfell Campus and the Research and Development Corporation.

Over this summer I had the privilege, as I went around the Province, to visit

a few of the 600 farms and spoke with some of the operators involved in the

agriculture industry in the Province. In particular in Central Newfoundland, we

met some very interesting and innovative and creative farmers, I will say, that

are committed to actually growing many new forms of root crops and some

cranberry farms that we are seeing some of the benefits this year.

Some of these were investments that were made over many, many years now, and

even through a number of different Administrations. As I said, Mr. Speaker, one

of the things when we talked to the people who are involved in the agriculture

industry, there are some challenges, especially around access to Crown lands

right now. I think if there is anything that we can do to support this industry

is to make sure that we can make this land available, as well as support them

financially.

It is important too, if there is lesson that we have learned over this

summer, is what has happened with food safety through the XL meats in Alberta.

It is important that we do cultivate and fertilize, I will say, our agricultural

industry so that it can grow and indeed it can be an impact on the economic

development in rural Newfoundland.

I look forward to some of the discussion that we get from the Growing Forward

2 Agreement, and I certainly wish all of the participants and organizers a

successful weekend in Corner Brook.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I, too, thank the minister for the advance copy of his statement, and I would

like to see the research focused on land use and around food security.

The Nordic Economic Development Board, the REDB in my district, realized

opportunities in agriculture because they started inventorying it in the

district.

I would like to see the Growing Forward 2 program where you see funds

distributed not on a first-come, first-served basis and that the Department of

Natural Resources reinstate some of the funding to one of its land use programs

that it cut.

I really see in this an opportunity for co-ops and farmers markets to be

expanded, and for us to look at providing incentives to work with farmers and

local retailers and restaurants to see how we can provide some funding, some

incentive, to encourage that partnership to be fostered.

I welcome the food safety initiatives that can be expanded, and I look

forward to hearing more about that incentive.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. OSBORNE: (Inaudible).

MR. SPEAKER: Does the Member for St. John's South have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: No leave.

MR. SPEAKER: No leave.

The hon. the Minister of Service Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise today in this hon. House

to announce that restaurant inspection reports are now available on-line.

Previously, members of the public were required to contact a government

service centre in their area to obtain a paper copy of an inspection report for

a particular restaurant. This could often take three to five business days.

Today, we are announcing a new level of access by making restaurant inspection

reports available on-line, twenty-four hours a day.

Mr. Speaker, this new information service demonstrates our government's

intent to proactively disclose information that is commonly requested. It

illustrates government's willingness to simplify and enhance access to

information and it is a good example of why we created the Office of Public

Engagement.

Mr. Speaker, our officers inspect thousands of food establishments in the

Province annually, under an agreement with the Department of Health and

Community Services. During each inspection, all aspects of food safety and

facility sanitation are reviewed for compliance. When problems are discovered,

our inspectors issue orders to correct any deficiencies and may

schedule

follow-up inspections to ensure establishments are following the standards under

the legislation.

This Web site provides a snapshot of these reports for restaurants and

take-outs across the Province, organized alphabetically and by region. Users are

able to scroll through inspection reports, dating back to April 1, 2012, and

obtain a report which outlines the status of a particular restaurant. The report

will indicate whether the establishment is fully compliant with the standards,

or whether these are issues which need to be addressed.

Mr. Speaker, the general public has the right to know that the establishment

in which they choose to dine is complying with all food safety standards and, as

such, we are pleased to announce this exciting initiative.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the member for the advance notice of his statement. I am pleased to

see this government come forward in at least one area of measured transparency,

Mr. Speaker. I agree that our restaurants and dining facilities need to be held

in the highest standards of health and safety, and agree with the minister's

statement.

I know this issue I think was raised about four or five years ago, Mr.

Speaker, and it was raised again through the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.

I think the response was that if you want information it would cost you

thousands of dollars. I am certainly glad to see the government come forward in

making this information public.

Mr. Speaker, I think it was just last spring when the former Minister of

Service Newfoundland and Labrador referred to these requests for information as

frivolous. I am glad to see the government come full circle and make this

information available to the public, Mr. Speaker. Once again, it is good to see

this government come forward in transparency on this issue, and looking forward

to this government to come forward on transparency and accountability on all the

people's issues.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I also would like to thank the minister for the advance copy of his

statement. Congrats to the government for making this move. Short and simple,

this is a good move by government that ensures food safety. It gives consumers

transparency in seeing that cleanliness is also part of their decision making on

where to go to eat, so it is kind of important to them. It gives a clear

advantage to restaurants as well in their own marketing, showing what they need

to be doing in making food safety a part of their daily operations and as well,

again to their prospective customers.

I am glad to see they took some of the advice from the Cummings report in

releasing these reports and making them open to the public. Perhaps the repeal

of Bill 29 is going to be next on the menu.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the hon. the Member for St. John's South have leave?

No leave.

Oral Questions.

Oral Questions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Premier is acting as if nothing can stop her from sanctioning Muskrat

Falls, even though there are still many outstanding questions. One of these

questions is the actual cost of power. Under the old cost estimates, Muskrat

Falls power cost 23.9 cents delivered to Soldiers Pond.

I ask the Premier: Since the price tag for this project keeps going up, what

is the new cost of Muskrat Falls power delivered to Soldiers Pond?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.

What we have done when we released the charts and the projected rates, we

outlined the numbers in terms of actual dollars and what people would expect to

pay. Mr. Speaker, under the Muskrat Falls isolated option it would be 15.2 cents

in 2017 going up to 16.6 cents a kilowatt hour in 2030. Compare that, Mr.

Speaker, to Holyrood isolated option and it goes up to 19.5 cents in 2030.

Mr. Speaker, the power delivered to Soldiers Pond is only one aspect because

the power is then blended into the other power on the Island. To put it in

perspective, Mr. Speaker, Holyrood right now costs anywhere from 18.5 to twenty

cents a kilowatt hour to produce power at Holyrood.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. BALL: Mr. Speaker, the minister knows that was not my question.

My question was: Based on the cost of construction at the recent DG3 numbers,

$7.4 billion at 824 megawatts of power delivered to Soldiers Pond, will someone

please tell us how this compares to the 23.9 cents in DG2? What is the new cost,

the updated cost?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Mr. Speaker, what we have tried to do is to answer the

questions for the public of this Province as to what it is going to cost them.

You can talk about kilowatt hours. You can talk about cost of power being

delivered to Soldiers Pond. What people want to know is: What is it going to

cost us to buy our power?

What we have done, Mr. Speaker, there is a rate calculator that is on-line.

We have also outlined, and it is in writing in the paper that we released, Mr.

Speaker, the cost to people. What is clear is that the Liberals stated for a

long time that power rates will double. The only thing that is clear, Mr.

Speaker, is that without Muskrat Falls, the increase in power rates will double.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Once again, I will ask the minister. It is obvious you do not

want to give the number when we compare it to the 23.9 cents.

Will the minister please tell us why he does not want to share this number

with the people of Newfoundland and Labrador? It is 23.9 cents in DG2. What is

it in DG3?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Yes, Mr. Speaker, as I have outlined on a number of the

previous questions, if you look at the electricity rates and that is what is

important to the people of this Province it is not how you get to the number,

but what is it going to cost us? What is it going to cost seniors? What is it

going to cost single mothers? What is it going to cost the average person to

heat their houses, Mr. Speaker?

What we know is that rates between 2000 and 2011 for the average ratepayer

went up 32 per cent, Mr. Speaker, or $45 dollars a month. Between 2011 and 2016,

they will continue to increase. What we will see with Muskrat Falls, Mr.

Speaker, is that it will be half the cost of the increase without Muskrat Falls.

The real issue, Mr. Speaker, for the people of this Province is not: What

does it cost per kilowatt hour? What does it cost me in my pocketbook? The

numbers are out there for everyone to look at, and I have not heard the members

opposite at this point outline how those numbers are wrong. That is the real

issue, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Well, one of the real issues is that the people of this

Province are being forced to pay 100 per cent the cost of construction for

Muskrat Falls on their power bills. The CEO of Emera stated that Nova Scotia

will have access to power based on the natural gas prices in New England, which

we know now have flattened because of the shale gas revolution.

So, I ask the minister: Will you finally commit that all revenue generated by

Muskrat Falls power will be used to offset rates for people of Newfoundland and

Labrador, the people who are paying for 100 per cent of this project?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as pointed out by the CEO of Nalcor on many occasions, what was

looked at here in determining the economic viability of this project was whether

or not the 40 per cent power required for the Island could pay for the project.

The CPW analysis did not include the 20 per cent of the power that will be sold

to Nova Scotia. It did not include, Mr. Speaker, the 40 per cent of the power

that would be available either for export or for use in the Province.

So, Mr. Speaker, what we have is a situation where we have a very viable

project, and people are going to pay electricity bills no matter what we do. Mr.

Speaker, the Holyrood option is, as we now speak, $2.4 billion more expensive

than the option of Muskrat Falls. Mr. Speaker, we have explored natural gas and

wind. One, we need the power; two, Muskrat Falls is the least-cost option.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Mr. Speaker, once again, the minister knows my question; the

question was very simple.

The Muskrat Falls project that you are proposing right now will generate

money. Why will you not commit your government to include all that revenue into

the ratepayer for the people that are actually paying for this power, the people

of Newfoundland and Labrador? Why not use that to offset their rates?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance and President of Treasury

Board.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, one big difference between this project and

the BRINCO project, for example, is that was owned by the private sector, and

that was being built to make money for the owners of BRINCO, for the private

shareholders in BRINCO. This project is for the people of Newfoundland and

Labrador. Nalcor is owned by the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. When this

project is done, the ratepayers will pay their rates, but any profits that are

available will come back to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. That is the

difference.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, that money will be used by the government of

the day to lower rates, if they decide to do that. Our government certainly has

done that from time to time in the past. We can build hospitals, and we can

bring in progressive social programs for the people of this Province.

This is a great project. It will lower people's electricity bills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Once again, I will ask the question, and be very clear and

simple. We were already building hospitals, I understand; that is the commitment

that I heard yesterday. What we are talking about here today are rates for

Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

Will you commit the revenue from the Muskrat Falls project to be used to

offset the rates for the ratepayers in Newfoundland and Labrador, the people

that are paying for this project?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As the Premier has indicated on numerous occasions, and the Minister of

Finance, my colleague, just outlined, what will happen with the excess monies

will be for the government of the day to determine.

The one point that is clear, Mr. Speaker: we are all going to pay electricity

bills in 2017. Whether that power is going to come from Holyrood, a refurbished

Holyrood, or from Muskrat Falls, we still have to pay power bills. Muskrat

Falls, Mr. Speaker, will stabilize and reduce rates.

As I indicated yesterday, I gave an example to the Leader of the NDP who

seems to think our government will proceed to financing without having any

revenue projections for example, in 2020, we know there will be $120 million

approximately available for the government of the day to determine what they are

going to do with. Will that be to build infrastructure, Mr. Speaker? Will that

be to put money back into rates? That will be that for government to determine.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

MR. EDMUNDS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, last year the Minister of Environment and Conservation clearly

indicated that the environmental impacts of Muskrat Falls on Lake Melville are

not as important to this government's balancing act as Holyrood.

Mr. Speaker, the Aboriginal community sets out 12,000 fathoms of communal

subsistence fishing gear in Lake Melville every summer.

I ask the minister: Is this not important enough to warrant an environmental

assessment in Lake Melville?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Environment and Conservation.

MR. HEDDERSON: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As I pointed out in my response last week, again, we do take any adverse

effects very, very seriously. Metal mercury concerns are one of those. Again,

Nalcor has consulted with the Aboriginal groups, key stakeholders, and the

general public in upper Lake Melville to gain insight into the concerns of the

community matters. Feedback from these consultations has been considered

throughout the entire environmental assessment process.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Torngat Mountains.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. EDMUNDS: Mr. Speaker, time is running out on this year's shipping

season in Black Tickle in the North Coast of Labrador as winter conditions have

set in. A considerable amount of freight remains in Lewisporte and Happy Valley

Goose Bay waiting to be shipped on the Astron .

I ask the Minister of Transportation and Works: Will the government now add a

second vessel for the remainder of this shipping season to avoid extreme

shipping and unloading conditions?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, back on September 4 of this year the Northern Ranger

sustained a significant mechanical difficulty. Since that time, the motor vessel

Astron is providing very good service to the North Coast of Labrador in

the delivery of freight.

We made a commitment to the people of Northern Labrador that freight that was

delivered to the facilities in Happy Valley-Goose Bay, as well in Lewisporte,

before November 16 will be delivered. Mr. Speaker, right now we believe we are

going to live up to those obligations, we are going to live up to those

commitments, and we are going to deliver the freight as we said we would.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On June 1, our office submitted a Freedom of Information request for a job

evaluation report on trades in government. First, they asked for over $1,000 in

fees. We appealed and brought that cost down to $150. Five months later, we

received our information of 150 pages of completely blacked out documents of

text, Mr. Speaker.

My question to the minister: Tell me again, Minister, how has Bill 29, the

official secrecy act, improved openness and accountability in your government.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Business and Rural

Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I am not aware of

the particulars the gentleman refers to. Our legislation exists, there are

parameters that surround that legislation, rules in regard to the privacy of

information and the release of information, and how that is done.

The particulars that the hon. member thinks has not been provided or has not

gotten due diligence, he can certainly pass it on to me and I will take a look

for him and be happy to do that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Bay of Islands.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, I would love to pass it on to you, but it is all

blocked out.

MR. SPEAKER: No props, I remind the speaker.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, a five-month tug of war to get the most basic

information on government policy is insulting to the people of the Province and

these tradespeople. Government claims that Bill 29 was a minor bill with no

significant effects on how information is released, yet we have seen major

changes in the past in the way government treats Freedom of Information

requests. They take far longer, cost far more and, as a result, we get way less

information.

My question is to the minister: Will the minister now admit that the Office

of Public Engagement is a worthless PR exercise designed to provide cover to the

most secretive government in Canada?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Business and Rural

Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, the hon. member may not be aware of it, there

is legislation that exists, and there are parameters around the release of

information. It is a balance between the protection of privacy and certainly the

release of that information. There are protocols in place for that. There are

appeals processes to the commissioner; outside of that, there are appeals to the

courts.

He brings it here into the House of Assembly, waves around the papers, and

wants us to deal with it here. There is a process in place. Why doesn't he find

out how it works and deal with it. If there is something outside of that he

thinks is not being done, bring it to my attention and I will take a look.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, when Bill 29 was introduced in June, 2012,

both the minister and deputy minister publicly assured the media that the

provision of details around remuneration would not change. In fact, it did. The

term remuneration was changed to salary range. As they say, the devil is in the

details.

I ask the Minister of Justice: How is it that the minister himself did not

know his own legislation?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Business and Rural

Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, prior to Bill 29, access to remuneration

included the exact amount of a salary of someone in the public service. It did

not include any attachment related to bonuses. Since Bill 29 has been enacted

here in this House, what now is provided is a range of the public servants

working for the Province, unless there is an exact salary amount attached to it.

In addition, what are provided are the calculations that are done to

determine what the bonus of that individual would be. Anybody out there could

find out what the maximum is for someone who is working in a position anywhere

in the public service based on that information that is now in the act, Mr.

Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: I say to you, Minister, your government said one thing

and it did another. Yesterday in the House, the Minister Responsible for Public

Engagement stated that the rationale for not providing total compensation

information is that it would breach the employer-employee relationship. I would

say, Mr. Speaker, public employees are employees of the public; they are paid

for by the taxpayers.

I ask the minister: Would you amend the ATIPPA and make this information

available to the public?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Business and Rural

Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, when the statutory review was done by Mr.

Cummings, one of the things that he did, he took a jurisdictional look at what

was happening in other parts of the country and as well looked at the release of

private information related to remuneration.

One of the things he identified was that in releasing information

particularly related to the employer-employee relationship related to bonus that

is tied to performance of an individual in the workplace. The release of that

information, Mr. Cummings indicated, would not be appropriate, and is not

released in other jurisdictions as well because it goes specific to the

activities of that individual and their performance in the workplace.

We agree; that should not be public. What should be public is what is the

maximum amount that person could earn and is earning in the public service. That

is now available and it is out there. We will stand by protecting the privacy

information of individuals, of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, seven years ago this government introduced a

Safe and Caring Schools policy to protect our children, like the children in the

gallery from Immaculate Conception School. Yet in 2012, 22 per cent of Grade 12

students still admit to being bullied within the last thirty days; 40 per cent

are afraid to go on the bus the government's own figures. Recent incidents of

school violence and police involvement further highlight a serious problem.

Will the minister agree that his Safe and Caring Schools Policy has been a

complete failure?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, I certainly will not.

This hon. member got up a few days ago and called what is happening within

the schools fluff around bullying. I would ask him to walk into a school and

tell all the students who take

part in Pink Shirt Day, and violence awareness

activities and so on, tell him to go out and tell them that it is fluff what is

happening.

Mr. Speaker, we are addressing it. One of the issues right now that is

happening I did an interview this morning, and we talked about: Is there more

of a heightened awareness around bullying? Mr. Speaker, there is. People are

reporting it more. People are talking about it more. We are investing with

schools and the whole gamut. Mr. Speaker, people are being more aware and they

are becoming more proactive.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, last January the minister hired Goss Gilroy to

review the Safe and Caring Schools Policy. The study was completed on August 31,

and the minister sat on it for two months before releasing it on November 2. Now

he is talking about doing another study.

Why won't the minister act on the report that the taxpayers have already

bought and paid for to reduce school violence?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, maybe the member should think back to some of

his voice messages that were left around just a little while ago.

Mr. Speaker, the report was released from Goss Gilroy. Staff and others were

engaged to develop a draft bullying policy. A protocol, Mr. Speaker, for

intervention and bullying awareness was developed so we can track and monitor

these things right now.

As of tomorrow, the Federation of School Councils will be the first group

that we will consult with. Those consultations will go on, Mr. Speaker, and then

we will end up with a product that will improve, track, monitor, and look at

interventions. Mr. Speaker, we end up at a better place than we are today.

It is good news, Mr. Speaker. The member cannot handle it.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, government's expert economist, Dr. Wade Locke, has predicted a

budget deficit this year and deficit budgets for at least the next ten years.

With hundreds of millions set aside for Muskrat Falls, will the Minister of

Finance assure this House and the people of this Province that services will not

be cut in order to meet financial obligations regarding government's Muskrat

Falls Project?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance and President of Treasury

Board.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: I thank the hon. member for her question.

What is happening in the world today is we have an uncertainty in the global

world economy. It is leading to a slowdown in demand, and it is caused by what

is happening in Europe, it is caused by uncertainty because of the fiscal cliff

in the United States. So, companies might be deferring projects that they

intended.

That slowdown in demand is leading to lower commodity prices, lower oil

prices, and lower mineral prices as well. That affects royalties that

governments receive. It also lowers the profits of those companies, which means

they pay less tax. So, therefore, in a time of GDP slowdown, we will see lower

revenues.

Muskrat Falls is different. Muskrat Falls, the money that goes into Muskrat

Falls will not increase our debt

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS MICHAEL: Mr. Speaker, the minister has not been answering my question.

So, now I ask him: In light of the predicted future budget shortfalls, and in

light of the uncertainty that he just talked about, how can we afford to proceed

with an unproven multi-billion dollar hydro project?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance and President of Treasury

Board.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: The equity investment and the debt taken up at Muskrat

Falls, the revenue generated will pay that back, and it will pay a dividend to

the Province to pay off any debt the Province takes out. There will be a return,

and the project will pay for itself. What it means, it means lower rates for the

people of the Province. We could continue to burn oil at Holyrood, but that is

madness. David Suzuki said burning fossil fuels to create electricity is

madness.

We are going to shut down Holyrood. We need to replace that power. We need

power on the Island. We need power in Labrador for economic development. This is

the way to do it without increasing our debt, and the project will pay for

itself.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Third Party.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I invite the minister to bring into this House the cash flow documentation to

show us dollar for dollar what he just talked about.

Mr. Speaker, a report from the Harvard Kennedy School suggests a worldwide

glut of oil production could drop the price of oil to below $60 a barrel for

some time. This downward movement in the price of oil erodes the government's

rationale for their Muskrat Falls Project.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Natural Resources: What are the

implications for the future of this Province's offshore oil and gas industry?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Mr. Speaker, since I have been the Minister of Natural

Resources almost a year now I have met with the energy advisors that we use

in New York, that we use in Europe, and, Mr. Speaker, the short-term volatility

of oil is certainly something that can go up and down very quickly, depending on

what happens in the Middle East today. In terms of the long-term forecasting,

Mr. Speaker, they are based on fundamental principles of supply and demand.

To give you an example of why we are going to need more oil and why the price

will stay up, I saw a chart today, Mr. Speaker: seventy cars per thousand people

in China as opposed to 793 cars per thousand people in the United States; twenty

cars per thousand people in India, Mr. Speaker. These cars require steel to be

built. Eighty million people entering the middle class per year, Mr. Speaker,

the price of oil is going to stay around $100 to $105 per barrel.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Mr. Speaker, I hope that the experts that the minister was

speaking to were not the ones who told him that the price of oil right now is

going to be $124 a barrel.

I ask the Minister of Natural Resources: With things the way they are, what

are the implications for the ratepayers of this Province, soon to be chained to

this government's Muskrat Falls option for fifty years or more?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Mr. Speaker, the MHI did a sensitivity analysis in their

Decision Gate 3 numbers for the I know if they want to read it, it is at page

72. They looked at, Mr. Speaker, in terms of the accumulative present worth, the

PIRA-predicted prices.

Mr. Speaker, at a base price of $104, Muskrat Falls is $2.4 billion cheaper.

If it went to the low of $60 and there are many reasons why the experts do not

expect oil to go to that level Muskrat Falls is still half a billion dollars

cheaper in CPW.

We filed a report, Mr. Speaker again, I do not know if the Opposition has

had an opportunity to read it an update by PIRA out of New York, where they

indicate all the reasons why they do not think the PIRA low will occur, Mr.

Speaker. It is quite simple: $85 to produce a barrel of oil in Alberta

(inaudible).

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Mr. Speaker, global energy experts say the foundations of the

world's energy markets are shifting and the US is poised to be a leading oil

producer by 2017, and all but self sufficient within twenty years. There are

profound implications for the rest of us if the world's largest economy no

longer needs to import any energy.

I ask the Minister of Natural Resources: What plans is he developing for

government to be able to address this profound shift?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Mr. Speaker, Dr. Schwartz also deals with the PIRA update.

He deals with the effect of shale oil going up to 5.5 million to 6 million

barrels a day out of North Dakota, Mr. Speaker, and basically the Americans will

offset their needs with their own oil.

Mr. Speaker, the demand is still growing, according to PIRA. I am looking at

a report yesterday, Mr. Speaker, out of Scotiabank, indicating that while we

have a GDP in Canada of 2.1 per cent and the United States have 2.1 per cent,

China is growing in 2012- 2013 at 7.7 per cent and India, Mr. Speaker, is

growing at 5.5 per cent to 6 per cent.

India and China require more oil, Mr. Speaker. The principles of supply and

demand will apply. What we see with this shale oil, it means self-sufficiency

for the United States; it does not mean self-sufficiency for (inaudible).

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Mr. Speaker, today is National Housing Day. In many parts of

the Province, housing costs have risen faster than anywhere else in the country,

and rents have increased four times faster than the rate of inflation. Rental

vacancies are at historic lows.

In Labrador West, contracting companies are buying apartment buildings to

house their workers, evicting long-term tenants. We are in a housing crisis with

no comprehensive housing policy from this government to deal with it and no

concrete action. This is not just about social housing.

I ask this government: What will it do concretely to help young working

families and middle income earners who cannot afford the skyrocketing housing

costs or rents?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for Newfoundland and

Labrador Housing.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DAVIS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as a government and as Newfoundland and Labrador Housing

Corporation, the focus and key focus is providing for those people who require

assistance in housing the most. They are the people who require these services

the most. Mr. Speaker, in doing so, what this government has done the

Newfoundland and Labrador Housing Corporation has done in 2011, created 375

new rent supplements in private accommodations for the people who need the

services most, Mr. Speaker. That is now 1,700 rent supplements available in this

Province.

As well, Mr. Speaker, I can tell you that since 2006, there have been 1,100

new private accommodations that were built with assistance from the Government

affordable housing to those people who need it

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Mr. Speaker, research shows that housing is a number one

concern for seniors and they want to stay in their homes. The median income for

seniors here in Newfoundland is $26,000, just over minimum wage for a lifetime

of work. The programs and assistance offered by Newfoundland and Labrador

Housing to seniors have long waiting lists and are not meeting their needs. We

all know this in this House of Assembly.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS ROGERS: Mr. Speaker, I ask the government in the midst of this housing

crisis: What concretely are you going to do to help our seniors?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for Newfoundland and

Labrador Housing.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DAVIS: Thank you again, Mr. Speaker.

I wanted to talk a little bit more about the Affordable Housing Initiative

Newfoundland and Labrador, and where since 2006, 1,100 new units have been

developed. Mr. Speaker, the people who are living in those 1,100 units are the

seniors in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador; the people who require

this most.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DAVIS: These units are being built for our seniors; they are being

built for persons with disabilities. Mr. Speaker, these units and this project

has been recognized in Canada as the first in Canada to require a universal

design. I tell you, that speaks volumes for the vision of this government and

what we are doing for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Natural Resources Minister is on record in this House as saying they

would put Muskrat Falls' excess power for sale on the spot markets. However, at

the briefing for Ziff Energy on natural gas options, we were told that part of

the reason why natural gas is not an option is because of the volatility of the

spot markets.

Can the minister please tell this House why the natural gas spot market is

not an option but the electricity spot market is?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, in our meetings with the experts, Wood Mackenzie, for example,

they indicated that if you had to build transmission now then the spot markets

may not provide a good profit. Mr. Speaker, our Maritime Link we get the energy

to travel for free. We then pay $5 to $10, Mr. Speaker, to transmit the

electricity per megawatt to the US. If we get $50 a megawatt hour, it is only

costing us $10 to get there and there is a $40 per megawatt hour profit. The way

the spot markets work, as I am sure the member opposite knows, they can range

from $25 to $100 per megawatt hour, depending on the time of day, time of year.

Mr. Speaker, it is the deal with Nova Scotia and the Maritime Link which

allows us to access the spot markets. That is why, Mr. Speaker, there is a

market for electricity.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would say to the minister, there is probably not going to be a spot market

if the US is going to be self-sufficient and burning natural gas for

electricity.

Mr. Speaker, Muskrat Falls promises a steady supply of power, but it makes

this promise at an added cost to the municipalities' bottom line.

I ask the Minister of Municipal Affairs: What representation has the minister

made to government to address the extra funding needs that municipalities will

require to help keep the lights going?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Municipal Affairs, time for a quick

response.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

I would ask the hon. member: Does he understand the word budget? Because that

is a part of the budget process and I will address that in that process.

MR. SPEAKER: The time for Question Period has expired.

MR. JOYCE: A point of order, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for Bay of Islands, on a point of order.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, during Question Period the Minister of

Innovation, Business and Rural Development challenged me to table the report. I

will just let the minister know, here is the report on behalf of the

tradespeople in Corner Brook. I hope you are going to do something with it to

help out the tradespeople in Corner Brook who cannot get the information from

the Member for Humber East.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The Minister of Finance, speaking to the point of order.

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, the JES is a matter that is being negotiated.

It is part of the collective bargaining process. The implementation of JES is

something the trade unions and the government have talked about for some time.

They are now negotiating the implementation (inaudible) at the table

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

There is no point of order.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.

Tabling of Documents.

Notices of Motion.

Notices of Motion

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On the Orders of the Day there is a motion there. Under Motions you will see

there is a motion there that I put on the Order Paper in the spring. I hereby

withdraw that motion.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition has directed

the House to remove the notice of motion that is on the Order Paper in his name.

Duly noted and we will do that.

Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.

Petitions.

Petitions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

This is the Immaculate Conception School Petition.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS our schools are the heart of our communities and we should do what we

can to preserve them long into the future; and

WHEREAS the proposal to reconfigure Immaculate Conception School in Colliers

as a K-4 school denies students fundamental rights including the right to a

healthy, active, safe, and caring school environment; and

WHEREAS government is compelled to give school reconfiguration decisions some

consideration as was the case in 2005 when the PC government decided to ensure a

continuation of a K-12 system in Bishop's Falls; and

WHEREAS parents of Immaculate Conception School have been lobbying government

for a school gymnasium facility since 1999;

We, the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge government to

ensure that the Eastern School District is provided with adequate funds to

maintain Immaculate Conception School as a K-6 school. We further petition the

House of Assembly to urge government to ensure that a new school is constructed

to replace the existing inadequate facilities at Immaculate Conception School.

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to submit these additional petitions from

Immaculate Conception School for the consideration of members of the House.

Parents are here in the gallery today and many of those watching the House

proceedings on TV or on the Internet have signed this petition.

They want members of the House to know that they want to keep Immaculate

Conception School as a K-6 school in Colliers. They want members of the House of

Assembly to know that they do not want Grades 5 and 6 children bused to Roncalli

Central High School. That was tried before and it did not work out.

They want members of the House to know that they are worried about the safety

of their kids if they have to attend a high school that was not designed for

smaller children. They want members of the House of Assembly to know that they

believe Immaculate Conception School is an excellent school with great teachers.

The problem they have, Mr. Speaker, which they have been lobbying officials

about since 1999, is that Immaculate Conception needs a gymnasium. They want

members of the House to know that when they said they wanted a gymnasium, they

did not mean the gymnasium at Roncalli Central High.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KIRBY: Finally, they want you all to know that they want a new

school. They believe that their children should have the same opportunities and

advantages as every other child in Newfoundland and Labrador, all the other

primary and elementary school kids in the Province. Nothing more, nothing less.

I hope the members opposite will think about all that and hear the concerns of

those petitioners.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a petition to the hon. House of Assembly for Newfoundland and Labrador

in session assembled.

WHEREAS rental rates in the city have increased considerably within the past

number of years; and

WHEREAS rental component of the benefits provided to those receiving Income

Support has not increased at the same rate; and

WHEREAS the availability of affordable housing is becoming more and more

challenging, making it more difficult for those who receive Income Support to

rent suitable housing;

THEREFORE, we the residents of St. John's wish to petition the House of

Assembly in Legislative Session to review the living allowance portion of Income

Support that is used to pay rent.

Mr. Speaker, I know because I have some involvement with one of the soup

kitchens in the city that two years ago, or three years ago, there were sixty

people, every Friday morning, going to that soup kitchen. Now you are looking at

almost 200, and some days over 200, people on a Friday morning going to soup

kitchen for breakfast. That is a reflection, Mr. Speaker, of people finding it

more and more difficult to either pay rent or keep the heat on, or put food in

the fridge.

Mr. Speaker, this is a real issue. It is a real issue. The Budget process is

coming up, and I will ask Cabinet and the members opposite, the minister

responsible, to keep in mind the rental portion of Income Support when they

review the Budget this year, because it is a very real issue, and there are

people in this city and throughout the Province who are finding it more and more

difficult.

I commend government in some ways, because the economy of the city and the

Province is very strong, but with a strong economy, Mr. Speaker, comes

challenges. One of those challenges is a greater divide between the people who

can afford to pay their rent and the people who cannot.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province

of Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS with declining enrolment distance education by Internet is now an

accepted way to deliver educational services to students living in small

communities; and

WHEREAS students have little to no say in where they or their families

reside; and

WHEREAS many families do not have the ability to relocate so that their

children can access educational opportunities in larger centres; and

WHEREAS many small businesses rely on the Internet to conduct business; and

WHEREAS high-speed Internet permits a business to be more competitive than

the slower dial-up service; and

WHEREAS there are no plans to offer high-speed Internet to the residents of

the community of Eddies Cove West; and

Whereupon the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the government to partner with the private sector and

offer high-speed Internet service to this community.

And as in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, this is a small community, as many small communities, and it is

being bypassed for high-speed Internet.

The cost to provide high-speed Internet in a package when the service is

going through the area is significantly less than to come back and fill in the

spots after the fact.

Mr. Speaker, we see as time goes by and the government closes schools and

makes education more difficult for students to access, high-speed Internet will

be one of the ways that they will be able to live at home and study, become

educated, and to try and catch up with and keep pace with a modern world.

Mr. Speaker, these residents of the Town of Eddies Cove West are petitioning

the House of Assembly and this is their petition.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled:

WHEREAS hundreds of residents of the South West Coast of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador, including residents of the communities of Margaree,

Fox Roost , Isle aux Morts, Burnt Islands, Rose Blanche-Harbour le Cou, Diamond

Cove, and La Poile use Route 470 on a regular basis for work, medical,

educational, and social reasons; and

WHEREAS there is no cellphone coverage on Route 470; and

WHEREAS residents and users of Route 470 require cellphone coverage to ensure

their safety and communication abilities; and

WHEREAS the Department of Innovation, Business and Rural Development recently

announced significant funding to improve broadband services in rural

Newfoundland and Labrador; and

WHEREAS the residents and users of Route 470 feel that the Department of

Innovation, Business and Rural Development should also invest in cellular phone

coverage for rural Newfoundland and Labrador.

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to support the users of Route 470 in their

request to obtain cellphone coverage along Route 470.

And as in duty bound your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I had to get up on this petition today because I have two

separate roadways in my district that do not have cellphone coverage. A couple

of days ago I referenced Route 480 and today I wanted to do Route 470. That is a

lot of communities that have no cellphone coverage to cover anything. That is

not just to get into the safety needs that they have, driving up and down

desolate roadways in poor weather conditions. Let us not talk about the fact

they cannot get calls from work if they are working shifts. They cannot get a

call on their cellphone. They have to be sitting around in their house waiting

for that call.

The fact is, too, it is not just the residents who live here every day,

day-in and day-out, who do not have this basic service that should be provided.

The fact is we also have a number of tourists who are coming to this Province. I

know there was a nice application last year brought by the former Minister of

Tourism, an app to be used for tourism purposes. The problem is it cannot be

used in a lot of places in this Province.

We need to expand upon our cellphone coverage. We need to make sure that

service, which is basic and essential, is provided to all people in this

Province, no matter where they live.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise in the House today to present a petition on behalf of the people of

Newfoundland and Labrador regarding chemical use and pesticides.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS Tordon 101 contains the chemicals 2,4-Dichlorophenoxyacetic acid

(2,4-

D) and Picloram; and

WHEREAS the chemical Picloram is a known cancer-causing carcinogen; and

WHEREAS the provincial government has banned the cosmetic use of the

pesticide 2,4-D; and

WHEREAS safer alternatives are available to the provincial government for

brush clearance such as manual labour, alternative competitive seeding methods,

and/or the mechanical removal of brush; and

WHEREAS the provincial government is responsible for ensuring the safety and

well-being of its citizens;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge government to cease the use of chemicals covered under

its own cosmetic pesticide ban and begin using safer methods of brush clearance

that will not place its citizens in harm's way.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, when the chemical ban was announced in July 2011, people were

probably thinking that everybody was going to be included and everybody was

going to be following the ban, including government.

This petition is signed by people all over the Province, including Harbour

Main, Chance Cove, Conception Harbour, and a lot of rural areas where probably

water is pretty important. When it comes to using these chemicals that stay for

a long time in water, in particular Picloram which has been known to stay in

some water supplies for a very long time, upwards of ten years before it starts

to breakdown, the question has to be asked.

We know we have to have a safety mechanism for moose in the clearing of brush

on the side of the roads. We know we have to have our snowplow operators be able

to throw that snow right back off the road so the brush cannot be there. It has

to have a place to go.

In the interest of road safety it is one thing that we clear brush, but to

use chemicals and yes we know that chemicals work and they do a darn good job

in turning everything on the side of the road grey. At the same time there are

other uses, there are other things that we could be doing rather than using

chemicals to clear away brush.

For example, we get a lot of people in this Province, who visit this Province

particularly, who comment on how the lupins are growing so nicely along the

highways and they look so colourful. A lupin happens to be a pretty important

plant and is very competitive against alders which are growing. There are

alternative means of doing things. We can do things better and keep our water

supplies clear of some of these cancer-causing agents.

I would also like to say, Mr. Speaker, at the same time that government

should be leading by example here. It is very important that if government is

going to institute a ban on chemicals that it follow its own example and not be

using it. There are other ways that are a little bit cheaper and more cost

effective.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to the hon. the House of Assembly of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS education is a provincial responsibility; and

WHEREAS students in rural communities do not have the same technological

resources as students in urban areas due to their geographical whereabouts and

distance from urban centres; and

WHEREAS because of this, students in rural areas have a disadvantage when it

comes to school work and overall knowledge of the world around them;

WHEREUPON your petitioners call upon all Members of the House of Assembly to

urge government to assist in expanding the coverage of broadband Internet in all

areas of the Province in order to ensure equal access to education, current

events, and opportunities to residents of the Province.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, right now we have more than 200 communities in Newfoundland and

Labrador without access to broadband Internet, and that is significant. When we

look at what these students are talking about and when we look at education, it

is very critical that we provide an equal access.

A number of our students, especially in Northern climates and in a district

like my own there can be snow storms on many occasions. As we have CDLI,

distance education and distance learning happening and the instructor may be in

the metro area or may be in Central or Western they are teaching students all

over and if that one school is closed down, then they are missing out on

educational opportunities because the class is going ahead. They are not able to

be able to take advantage and get their school work done in the same timely

manner as others and be able to log-in at home.

That is a concern, Mr. Speaker, about allowing people to be able to go

on-line at home, to be able to have access, to be able to do their homework and

do it in real time. This is an opportunity for us to expand education across

Newfoundland and Labrador. If we look at Telelearning, we look at these centres

and we look at how we can partner with Memorial University and the College of

the North Atlantic to expand programming so that we can reduce geographical

barriers. Technology is key, and we really do need an advanced telecommunication

strategy.

I want to say that the people who have signed this are from Torbay, St.

John's, Goulds, Portugal Cove St. Philip's, Castor River South, Dildo, Comfort

Cove, and from Conception Bay South. A number of these communities would have

access to broadband Internet but they realize that education should be equal and

we need to look at expanding into many of the rural areas.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

Orders of the Day

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I call from the Order Paper, Order 6, second reading of a bill,

An Act To

Amend Various Acts Of The Province Respecting Annual Reports. (Bill 42)

Motion, second reading of a bill, "An Act To Amend Various Acts Of The

Province Respecting Annual Reports". (Bill 42)

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Mount Pearl North.

MR. KENT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I just want to rise for a couple of minutes to speak in support

of Bill 42,

An Act To Amend Various Acts Of The Province Respecting Annual

Reports.

The reason I want to speak to it, Mr. Speaker, is that this directly relates

to the mandate of our new Office of Public Engagement. We have seen now a number

of examples this week of proactive and routine disclosure of information. That

is something that I know our minister and our Premier, and others in this

government certainly support. That is why I have wanted an opportunity to speak

to this particular bill.

As part of a new Office of Public Engagement, we are working with departments

to proactively identify information that is sorry, Mr. Speaker, I am being

distracted by one of my colleagues, which would not shock those who are gathered

around me in this section. He is a distraction on most days, Mr. Speaker.

Charming, but distracting.

Again, we are working with departments to proactively identify information

that is commonly requested, that is deemed routine in nature, and we are working

with departments throughout government to make that information publicly

available. We saw a great example with the restaurant inspections through

Service Newfoundland and Labrador earlier today.

This bill being brought in by the Minister of Health and Community Services

is in that same spirit of openness, of transparency, of proactive and routine

disclosure, which is something we certainly advocate and support. Through this

process that we are going through with departments we hope to be able to

eliminate the need for some routine requests, and that will hopefully reduce

required staff time to respond to such inquiries as well.

I think that in terms of this particular bill and the acts that it impacts,

adopting a requirement to make annual reports of health profession regulatory

bodies public is going to enhance transparency, it is going to enhance

accountability within these health professions. It is also going to enhance the

public's knowledge of the work of the health profession regulatory bodies.

Again, Mr. Speaker, these changes are definitely in keeping with the spirit

of the new Office of Public Engagement, and they are definitely changes that are

in keeping with the new mandate of the new Office of Public Engagement. Our

Premier has said several times, as has our minister, the new Office of Public

Engagement is going to undertake this process of routine disclosure. It is going

to provide a proactive approach to access information that really reflects this

government's commitment to openness and to transparency as well.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to make a few more comments on this particular

bill, if I could. We are actually amending sixteen health professional statutes.

The amendments to each act are going to increase transparency and accountability

of the health regulatory bodies. Really, what we are doing here is ensuring that

the public has access to those annual reports.

As the minister indicated in her opening comments on this particular bill, we

are deeply committed to continuing to build a culture of openness, of

transparency, and accountability as well. This commitment, Mr. Speaker, is

supported through publishing the annual report of each regulatory body on the

Web site of the Department of Health and Community Services. If these regulatory

bodies in question have a Web site of their own, then the annual reports will be

published there as well.

Easily accessible annual reports will help keep not only members of the

various professions, but also the general public well informed about the

regulated health professions. It also will enhance their knowledge of the work

and mandate of the health profession regulatory bodies. I am sure that members

of this House will support these steps to create a culture of openness,

transparency, accountability, and I certainly hope that this bill will pass.

Mr. Speaker, to conclude, proactive disclosure of information is what this is

all about. I think this step that involves the various health professions really

reflects our overall Administration's commitment to openness and to

transparency. By adopting this requirement through this particular bill, we are

these professions.

I look forward to many more examples coming forward, Mr. Speaker, of routine,

proactive disclosure of information, which is keeping with the spirit and intent

of some of the positive changes we have made in terms of access to information

and protection of privacy. With that, Mr. Speaker, I will conclude my remarks.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I too would like to speak to this bill. We do see that there is definitely

some improvement in making some of this information easily accessible to both

the public and to legislators. It is a definite improvement from what has

existed.

However, there is a concern that

we have. One is why we no longer have these reports tabled in the House of

Assembly. We feel that it is important, that the work that these boards do

is very, very important, particularly in this time of increased technology in

health and also the stress that we have on our health care system. What these

reports do will point out some of the challenges and some of the problems that

some of these boards might be looking at. It is important that we not miss these

reports.

To have the reports tabled in the House of Assembly gives notice to all of us

that these reports are now available. That is an important issue. As well,

anything that is tabled in this House then goes to the Legislative Library,

which then means that these reports are categorized, the information is managed,

and the information is easily accessible. When we use Legislative Library staff

to help us in our research, they are able to do that.

I think to continue that tradition of tabling in the House is important, not

only for the sake of tradition, but also for the sake of formally notifying

legislators that in fact these very important reports are ready, reports that

reflect the work of the relevant bodies, organizations, and boards that are

presenting their annual reports.

I do have a few questions to the minister. I am hoping that the minister will

be able to tell us why these particular boards were included in the list to be

tabled in the House in the first place, and then why will they not be tabled in

the House now? I feel that if it is a matter of paper I hope it is not just

that well, then, there is a way of passing on that information electronically.

I do feel that it is important to continue in order to respect that

commitment to transparency and accountability. It is important to continue to

have these reports tabled in the House, again, as a mark that the annual reports

are done and are available, and also to follow through on the very efficient

work of the Legislative Library in terms of both housing information, formally

housing information, but also managing information and playing a role in

supporting all of us in the work that they do.

Also by doing so, by tabling in the House, it once again brings into focus

the very important work that these boards do, that these organizations do, that

the staff of these particular boards play in carrying out the work in our health

care system. Again, in this time of particular challenges in the health care

field, I think it is more important now than ever.

I look forward to hearing from the minister on those particular issues, and I

thank you for this time.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port au Port.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. CORNECT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I stand today to lend my support for this important bill, Mr. Speaker. It is

certainly an honour and a privilege to stand and to participate in this debate

on behalf of the constituents of the great and cultural District of Port au

Port.

Bill 42, Mr. Speaker,

an Act to Amend Various Acts of the Province Respecting

Annual Reports I encourage all my fellow colleague members on both sides of

the aisle to support the proposed amendments that we are debating this

afternoon.

The changes proposed, Mr. Speaker, through this bill will have significant

impact upon the protection of the public. These changes, Mr. Speaker, will

reinforce our commitment to ensure openness, transparency, and accountability by

amending the statutes governing health professions in this Province to require

them, Mr. Speaker, to place their annual reports on-line for public viewing and

going worldwide. This will certainly make sure the general public has access to

the information regarding the operations and activities of the governing bodies

for each of the regulated health professions on a timely, Mr. Speaker, and on a

regular basis.

Mr. Speaker, in the case where the governing body does not have a Web site

where they can post their annual reports, these reports will be posted on the

Web site of the provincial government at www.gov.nl.ca. It is also important to

note, Mr. Speaker, that hard copies and/or paper copies will still be accessible

for those who request it. All you need to do is contact the board and it will be

made available. For the people of the District of Port au Port, you can

certainly call my office and I can get a copy of the requested report for you.

Mr. Speaker, as the minister already stated, the Department of Health and

Community Services is responsible for seventeen statutes of the twenty-three

regulated health professions of this Province. Sixteen of those statutes

establish stand-alone boards, councils, and/or colleges that have

responsibilities, Mr. Speaker, for regulating specific health professions. These

health profession governing boards serve to protect the public through

professional regulation. The boards ensure that the applicants for membership in

a particular profession meet defining criteria. Only qualified and competent

practitioners are permitted to become members of a particular profession and to

deliver health care services.

The boards also have the responsibility for disciplining members. Mr.

Speaker, when a board receives an allegation that one of its members may be

doing something improperly, the board must investigate and deal with the

allegation. With recent amendments to the health professional statutes in this

Province, discipline hearings must be held in public. Mr. Speaker, we have all

seen media reports about these hearings; however, without access to annual

reports, we do not know how many complaints health professional governing bodies

receive or how many are settled without a formal hearing.

Right now, Mr. Speaker, our current legislation says that the governing body

must prepare its annual report and submit it to the Minister of Health and

Community Services in a timely fashion. This must be done on a yearly basis.

What the amendments of this bill will do now is that the governing body will be

required to post their annual report on their own Web site and/or on the site of

the Department of Health and Community Services.

Oftentimes, Mr. Speaker, if a member of the public has an issue with a

particular health professional or requires information about governance of a

profession, he or she will go to the governing body's Web site or, in the

absence of a Web site, go directly to the Web site of the Department of Health

and Community Services at www.health.gov.nl.ca/health. It is therefore important

to note that the annual reports will be made available on these Web sites and

made available to the public.

Section 10 of the Transparency and Accountability Act requires all provincial

government departments and agencies to make their annual reports public through

the House of Assembly or any other method that is effective and accessible.

Requiring governing bodies of a regulated health profession is certainly

compliance with the act.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all my colleagues in this hon. House of Assembly to

approve this valuable bill that will improve access to annual reports, increase

availability of information to the public about the important work of the health

profession regulatory bodies, and ultimately enhance patient safety.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I do want to make just a couple of comments with regard to Bill 42,

An Act To

Amend Various Acts Of The Province Respecting Annual Reports.

What concerns me is that we really are not being given great rationale for

why this change has to happen. We did try to get an explanation around all of

this but nothing was that profound, to tell you the truth. I think there is

something I am going to say symbolic, but it is more than symbolic about

annual reports being physically brought into this House and being tabled in this

House, because, in actual fact, when it comes to these organizations, they are

acting under legislation. This body is the body that is responsible for

legislation, not just a minister, but this whole body is responsible for

legislation and for the passing of legislation.

When we have legislation that relates specifically to particular groups,

their annual report is really an annual report to this House of Assembly, not

just to the minister. For that reason, I think it is important that the House of

Assembly receive the annual reports and that we actually get them physically.

Another reason, besides what in some ways looks symbolic; we also need to

know that the annual reports are finished, that the annual reports exist. I

really do not think we have to be continually looking to see: Oh, is this annual

report done. Is it there? Has it come out? Is it on-line? It is very easy to

forget about a report and about an organization if you are not receiving it and

if you do not know that the report exists. I know that happens to me with some

of the reports come, I say: Oh yes, I am interested in reading the report for

this organization or for this body.

I do think it is important. I do not know why the government is doing it. It

does not seem clear to me why it is necessary, so I actually think that I do not

really see supporting this act. It is a small thing, I know, but my thing is:

why do it, number one; and, number two: I think it needs to continue because I

think accountability to the House is what is symbolized by the reports being

brought in here and being tabled here.

I think it is really important that we maintain the understanding of what the

role of the House is. We have too many times actually, in not the far distant

past, where we have experienced in this House where everybody's role is not

respected, where we do not understand that everybody in this House has a

responsibility for what gets passed in this House. We all have responsibility

for information that pertains to this House and to the work of this House.

I get concerned when I see something like this happening because I say: Is

this another way of just undermining the role of everybody sitting in this

House? I do not see the reason for it. I have not heard a good reason for doing

it. Yes, it is paper and that could be a reason that the minister would give to

say that we do not need the reports because well, do you need more paper. The

reports are important, they are symbolic, and I know from other experiences in

my life, and other people have talked to me about this as well, when things are

just posted on-line and you do not get any notification that they are there, you

also have a sense of forgetting that the actual thing exists or should exist. I

have sort of said that before.

I am not going to beat this death, but I am going to say I do not see the

need on one level for this to happen. To put it positively, I do think we do

need to have the report still coming to the House so the organizations

understand where their accountability is, that the accountability is to the

House of Assembly, not just to a minister. For that reason, I will not be

supporting the bill.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for St. John's South, speaking to the bill.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, this legislation will require boards involved to post their

annual reports on a Web site, should they have one. It will also require that

the Department of Health and Community Services post to their site the report.

That is a good thing because it will make the reports accessible to the average

person, to the general public. I see that as a good thing; however, the

legislation does now mean that the boards do not have to supply the reports to

the House of Assembly. I do have a concern with that; I share the concern of the

Leader of the Third Party on that particular point.

Under the legislation it says: The board shall prepare and submit to the

minister not later than six months after the end of its financial year a copy of

its report. It also indicates that the minister shall publish the annual report

on the Health and Community Services Web site.

Mr. Speaker, I will be proposing an amendment to this particular legislation

under

section 9.(2), for example, of the Chiropractors Act to say that the

minister shall supply or table a copy of those reports, one for each of the

recognized parties, to the Table of the House of Assembly.

I believe that these reports should be tabled to the House of Assembly, Mr.

Speaker. These boards are accountable to the Legislature; they are accountable

to government, not just the minister responsible. While I think that this

legislation, Bill 42, has merits in the fact that it will provide the

information to the general public on a more broad level, I do have concerns that

the reports will not be tabled in the House of Assembly.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services, if

she speaks now she will close debate.

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, a very interesting debate on this particular bill, more debate

actually than I had anticipated. Really and truly, this is a bill about making

access larger, broader if we will. I believe that is what this legislation will

do.

There were a few questions, Mr. Speaker, that were raised throughout this

debate that we had last day and this afternoon. I will try to remember from last

day and respond to a couple of questions that were asked then, and then respond

to the questions that were asked here this afternoon as well.

There was a question asked, I think, from the other side of the House, from

the Member for Burgeo La Poile, I believe, in response to the imposing of a

levy or a fine of $1,000 for colleges or boards that had failed to file an

annual report. I am really happy to report to you that we have never had to do

that. That everybody in fact has filed a report to the minister's office, and so

we have always had that.

Now, with regard to the accountability issue and the business of whether or

not these should be tabled here in the House of Assembly and not on-line, or in

addition I am assuming I was hearing in addition to. We should point out;

there were only ever five that were tabled here in the House of Assembly. The

others were never, ever tabled in here in the House of Assembly.

All documents, I would like to point out, from the Department of Health are

subject to the Management of Information Act, which means they will be

appropriately archived and recorded by government. It is not that they would

never, ever be archived. It is not that they would never be produced in a paper

copy, Mr. Speaker. They all have to be produced in a paper copy. They all will

be archived, Mr. Speaker. That, again, is complying with the Management of

Information Act. That will absolutely happen.

It is not about paper. It is not about any of that. It is about access more

than anything. As I said, only five were ever tabled here in the House of

Assembly. I have only ever brought in one copy at a time. Frankly, I do not know

that anyone I cannot say that nobody has picked up a copy off the table once I

have tabled it, but I have only ever brought in one copy any time that I brought

in and tabled one of these documents.

I think the biggest point we want to make around this particular bill, Mr.

Speaker, is that the people of Province need to have access, putting them

on-line provides better access. Also, the people of the professions who are

involved in each of these boards, et cetera, they are the people who need access

to these reports as well. If they know they are coming they can get access

on-line. The boards themselves will also have paper copies available. So, if

anyone is looking for them, it is very easy to have them sent out to them.

With that, Mr. Speaker, I will take my seat and end the debate on this

particular bill.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Is it the pleasure of the House that the said bill be now

read a second time?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend Various Acts Of The Province Respecting

Annual Reports. (Bill 42)

MR. SPEAKER: The bill has now been read a second time.

When shall the bill be referred to a Committee of the Whole House?

MR. KING: Now, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Now.

On motion, a bill, "An Act To Amend Various Acts Of The Province Respecting

Annual Reports", read a second time, ordered referred to a Committee of the

Whole House presently, by leave. (Bill 42)

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader.

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Advanced

Education and Skills, that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the

Whole to consider Bills 40, 41, and 42.

MR. SPEAKER: It is moved and seconded that I do now leave the Chair for

the House to resolve itself into Committee of the Whole to consider the bills

referred.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

MR. SPEAKER: All those against, nay'.

Motion carried.

On motion, that the House resolve itself into Committee of the Whole, Mr.

Speaker left the Chair.

Committee of the Whole

CHAIR (Littlejohn): Order, please!

We are now considering Bill 40,

An Act To Amend The Health Research Ethics

Authority Act, The Medical Care Insurance Act, 1999 and The Mental Health Care

And Treatment Act.

A bill, "An Act To Amend The Health Research Ethics Authority Act, The

Medical Care Insurance Act, 1999 and The Mental Health Care And Treatment Act".

(Bill 40)

CLERK: Clause 1.

CHAIR: Shall clause 1 carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clause 1 carried.

CLERK: Clause 2.

CHAIR: Shall clause 2 carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clause 2 carried.

CLERK: Clause 3.

CHAIR: Shall clause 3 carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clause 3 carried.

CLERK:

Be it enacted by the Lieutenant-Governor and House of Assembly in

Legislative Session convened, as follows.

CHAIR: Shall the enacting clause carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, enacting clause carried.

CHAIR: Shall the

preamble carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion,

preamble carried

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend The Health Research Ethics Authority Act,

The Medical Care Insurance Act, 1999 and The Mental Health Care And Treatment

Act. (Bill 40)

CHAIR: Shall the title carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, title carried.

CHAIR: Shall I report the bill without amendment?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

Motion, that the Committee report having passed the bill without amendment,

carried.

CHAIR: Order, please!

We are now considering Bill 41,

An Act To Amend The Hearing Aid Practitioners

Act.

A bill, "An Act To Amend The Hearing Aid Practitioners Act". (Bill 41)

CLERK: Clause 1.

CHAIR: Shall clause 1 carry?

The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Yes, Mr. Chair, I have a question for the minister. In

some of the commentary referencing, I guess the reports will now be tabled on

the Web site, we will say the government Web site, as well as a Web site of the

organization.

MS SULLIVAN: (Inaudible).

MR. A. PARSONS: I am ahead of myself, I guess, am I? I thought you were

fast there. I apologize. I revoke my question.

CHAIR: Shall clause 1 carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clause 1 carried.

CLERK: Clause 2.

CHAIR: Shall clause 2 carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clause 2 carried.

CLERK:

Be it enacted by the Lieutenant-Governor and House of Assembly in

Legislative Session convened, as follows.

CHAIR: Shall the enacting clause carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, enacting clause carried.

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend The Hearing Aid Practitioners Act. (Bill

41)

CHAIR: Shall the title carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, title carried.

CHAIR: Shall I report the bill without amendment?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

Motion, that the Committee report having passed the bill without amendment,

carried.

CHAIR: We are now considering Bill 42,

An Act To Amend Various Acts Of

The Province Respecting Annual Reports.

A bill, "An Act To Amend Various Acts Of The Province Respecting Annual

Reports". (Bill 42)

CLERK: Clause 1.

CHAIR: Shall clause 1 carry?

The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: I will talk to the proper bill now, Mr. Chair.

CHAIR: Thank you, Sir.

MR. A. PARSONS: My question to the minister, it has been mentioned about

the report being referenced on the Web sites and I may have gotten confused

after various members referenced that it may be on one or the other. Will it be

referenced on both Web sites, both the government Web site as well as the Web

Site for the organization?

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The answer to your question is they will certainly be on the Department of

Health and Community Services Web site. If they have a Web site, it will also be

on their Web site. So, both places if there is a Web site for the particular

board or group, but certainly always on the Department of Health and Community

Services Web site.

CHAIR: Shall clause 1 carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clause 1 carried.

CLERK: Clauses 2 through 17 inclusive.

CHAIR: Shall clauses 2 through 17 inclusive carry?

The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Just a question for the minister here. We talked about

the fact that it is not going to be tabled in the House. Will notice be provided

of when the reports are done, via e-mail I know they will not be tabled, but

will there still be a notice provided to concerned individuals?

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Chair, they will be published; they will be put on Web

sites. In terms of whether or not notice will be given to the concerned

individuals, I am assuming that all boards have direct contact with the members

of their professions at all times. Without asking that question directly to

them, I am fairly comfortable in making the assumption that they would inform

the members of their profession that their annual reports are ready.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Will the Department of Health and Community Services,

which also tables all these reports, be sending out an advisory perhaps similar

to what you do in other departments, just to ensure that if you are not a member

of that organization but you might be interested, so that anybody who gets

government e-mails will get notice that they are reported?

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: That is not planned, Mr. Chair. These are public documents;

they are available on-line for people who need them. Access to them is in no way

prohibited; people will be able to have access to them whenever they need them.

So, if somebody is looking for the document, it will not be very difficult to

find them.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I would like to ask the minister again, perhaps a little more directly: What

is the rationale for actually discontinuing tabling them in the House?

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Chair, in discussions that people in my department have

had with these various boards and so on, I think it is felt that the people who

most want these reports are the people who are involved in the professions.

These are discussed at their AGMs, as an example; they are available to them

through the AGMs. Tabling them here in the House has really not served very much

purpose that we are able to see.

anybody who wants them. That really has been the broader concern: how do we make

concern in this paper is: how do we make them more accessible? For us, putting

them on-line was the way to make them more accessible.

CHAIR: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Once again I would like to applaud this movement to make them more accessible

to basically anybody who does have an interest. I think that is an admirable

thing. Also, what it does is highlight and focus the work that all these boards

are doing, and that is really important. I can applaud that.

I do not see, however, why continuing to table them in the House has anything

to do with the action of making them more public to everyone else. Because these

boards do come under the coverage of the House, I do not understand how one has

anything to do with the other. I would like some clarification on that.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I understand what the minister is saying. I do not believe that you are

restricting access by putting them on-line. I think plenty of people have

access. What I am concerned about is that as a member, when they are tabled, you

are notified that they are there; it is up to you then whether you look at them

or go through them or not. If they are not going to be tabled now, then you

would not know that they are available unless you chose to look for it or were a

member.

I am just wondering why the government could not make part of the procedure a

standard e-mail sent out from that department saying the annual report and

audited financial statement of group A is now available for viewing at this Web

site. I do not think that would be hard; I think it still serves the purpose, it

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, the other option on that is that you could ask the boards

themselves to provide notification that they have already posted them on their

Web site.

Mr. Chair, this is not meant to be difficult at all; this is simply meant to

be more open, to provide more access to these reports. That is the entire intent

of this particular bill.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: Mr. Chair, again I applaud this action to make things more

accessible. I still do not understand in terms of the problem with tabling them

in the House. I do not think that has been adequately addressed. I would ask the

minister to speak to that.

I do appreciate making information more broadly available to everyone. We

know how great it is to have information given to us electronically and then it

is accessible all the time, but the fact that these boards do come under

report to the Legislature, I think it is a good thing to continue to do that.

I am not happy with just simply having a group notifying us. To have the

formalized process and to continue that formalized process of tabling in the

House so that the House is A, aware that the annual reports are done, but also

it is part of acknowledging the work that is being done by these particular

boards.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: I have two more quick questions to ask. Number one, I am

hoping for, on the record I think you stated this when you were speaking to

the bill the audited financial statement is a part of the annual report; I am

just hoping that I can get that on the record. The second part, and I think you

may have answered this as well: there will be a hard copy available somewhere of

this information, if you could just confirm on the record.

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: Yes, Mr. Chair, the audited reports will also be made

available.

Mr. Chair, these are self-regulated bodies that we are talking about here and

the Administration is, our department is responsible for those self-regulated

bodies. I will have copies in my office if anyone needs a copy of the report.

They will be available to people who need these reports.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for Signal Hill- Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I just want to get clarification of that last point the minister made. I

think it should be incumbent on these bodies and also on the department that if

there are people who do not have access to Internet and we know we have

thousands of people who do not have access to Internet if they make a request,

that there are enough hard copies, that there will be multiple hard copies, not

just one or two that can be sent out to the public if requested. I just want to

get clarification.

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

There absolutely will be. As I said, whenever I came to the House before and

tabled one of these, that was all I tabled; it was one. Other copies are in my

office if people want them. Copies will still be in the offices of these boards

if anybody wants them. It is a matter of making a phone call, sending an E-mail,

or checking with your any of your MHAs, any of your elected officials. Access to

these will be improved, Mr. Chair.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Mr. Chair, I would like to ask the Minister of Health

and Community Services, just for clarification around these boards and

professional associations, the times of when they table their report. They are

not done on a specific day of the year. They can range throughout the year. Is

that correct?

CHAIR: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The answer is, yes.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Mr. Chair, I ask the Minister of Health and Community

Services, with all of these boards and now associations tabling their reports at

varying times of the year without any type of notice or tabling, then we would

have no idea when the reports are actually tabled without being given any type

of notice. This could lead to a significant waste of time to the general public

and to the members.

I think there would need to be something to make sure that people are aware

that these reports are available and when. Is there going to be something to

provide that (inaudible) notice, Mr. Chair?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

CHAIR: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This is really important. It sounds like it is only minor, but I think it is

important that a lot of these associations that are listed here probably in some

way are recipients of the taxpayers' money too, at the same time.

The second point I would like to make as well, is that you are talking about

posting them on the Internet, which is great, but there are a lot of people who

are out there watching this programming from the House and they depend sometimes

on the appropriate minister to stand up in the House and let them notify those

same people too, at the same time, that these annual reports are ready, be it if

they are from the Finance Minister or from the Minister of Health. There are

some people out there who watch the House and watch for the announcement that

this is being done.

I would like to point that out to the Minister, too, to reconsider about the

tabling of these particular changes in the House.

CHAIR: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Mr. Chair, I would like to make an amendment to the act and

the amendment will affect several parts of the act. It is the same amendment,

but it will affect several parts of the act.

To be inserted after

section 9(2) of the Chiropractors Act, 2009;

section

3(2) of the Dental Act, 2008;

section 7(2) of the Denturists Act;

section 9(2)

of the Dispensing Opticians Act, 2005; the Health Professions Act

section 7(2);

the Hearing Aid Practitioners Act

section 6(2); the Licensed Practical Nurses

Act, 2005

section 9(3); the Massage Therapy Act, 2005

section 8(2); the Medical

Act, 2011

section 11(5); the Occupational Therapists Act, 2005

section 7(2); the

Optometry Act, 2012

section 13(2); Physiotherapy Act, 2006

section 14(5); the

Psychologists Act, 2005

section 7(2); the Registered Nurses Act, 2008

section

16(4); the Social Workers Act

section 16(2); the following: The minister shall

table copies of the report in the House of Assembly.

CHAIR: Thank you.

The House will consider a recess.

MR. OSBORNE: That is seconded by the Member for St. John's Centre.

CHAIR: Seconded by the Member for St. John's Centre.

The House will take a short recess to consider the amendment.

Recess

CHAIR: Order, please!

The proposed amendment is not in order.

Shall clauses 2 to 17 inclusive carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, clauses 2 through 17 carried.

CLERK:

Be it enacted by the Lieutenant-Governor and House of Assembly in

Legislative Session convened, as follows.

CHAIR: Shall the enacting clause carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, enacting clause carried.

CLERK: A bill,

An Act To Amend Various Acts Of The Province Respecting

Annual Reports. (Bill 42)

CHAIR: Shall the title carry?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

AN HON. MEMBER: Nay.

CHAIR: Carried.

On motion, title carried.

CHAIR: Shall I report Bill 42 without amendment?

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

AN HON. MEMBER: Nay.

CHAIR: Carried.

Motion, that the Committee report having passed the bill without amendment,

carried.

CHAIR: The hon. the Deputy Government House Leader.

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Chair, I move that the Committee rise and report Bills

40, 41, and 42 and ask leave to sit again.

CHAIR: The motion is that the Committee rise and report Bills 40, 41 and

42 and ask leave to sit again.

All those in favour, aye'.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Aye.

CHAIR: All those against, nay'.

Carried.

On motion, that the Committee rise, report progress and ask leave to sit

again, Mr. Speaker returned to the Chair.

MR. SPEAKER (Verge): The hon. the Member for Port de Grave and the

Deputy Chair of Committees.

MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Speaker, the Committee of the Whole have considered

the matters to them referred and have directed me to report Bills 40, 41 and 42

without amendment.

MR. SPEAKER: The Chair of Committee of the Whole reports that the

Committee have considered the matters to them referred and have directed him to

report Bills 40, 41 and 42 carried without amendment.

When shall the report be received?

MR. HUTCHINGS: Tomorrow.

MR. SPEAKER: Tomorrow.

The Deputy Government House Leader.

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, I call from the Order Paper, Bill 46,

An Act

To Amend The Motorized Snow Vehicles And All-Terrain Vehicles Act.

MR. SPEAKER: We are now considering Bill 46.

The hon. the Minister of Service Newfoundland and Labrador .

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Tourism,

Culture and Recreation that Bill 46,

An Act To Amend The Motorized Snow Vehicles

And All-Terrain Vehicles Act, be now read a second time.

MR. SPEAKER: It is seconded by?

MR. MCGRATH: It is seconded by the Minister of Tourism, Culture and

Recreation.

MR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded that Bill 46 be now read a

second time.

Motion, second reading of a bill, "An Act To Amend The Motorized Snow

Vehicles And All-Terrain Vehicles Act."

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Service Newfoundland and Labrador

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As many of you are aware, groomed trail development in Newfoundland and

Labrador began about thirty years ago. Many of you here, I am sure, own

snowmobiles and u

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