I . I . a .! .. .. l ( Volume 1 .· : PROVINCE OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY Number 1 4th. Session 34th. General Assembly OFFICIAL REPORT WEDNESDAY. FEBRUARY 18, 1970 SPEA~ER: THE HONOURABLE GEORGE W. CLARKE

.. H A N S A R D Fourth ' Session of the THIRTY-FOURTH GENERAL ASSEUBLY Of NEWFOUNDLAND '· Wednesday. February 18, 1970 ,.,. __ .,. .... . .,_ ··- .. --

• • ' • . . . -. . : . FOURTH SESSION OF THE THIRTY-FOURTH GENERAL ASSD-ffiLY .-":'· \ ... February 18. 1970. . . . the House of Assembly which had been prorogued on the fourth day of February. 1970 met at 3:00 P.M •• the Sp~~ker in ~he _ .chair: · <~ . ' .. · ... · ~ · .... : -... t. Hie Honour the Lieutenant-Governor read the Speech from the Th~e: . · ,. ' . \ .• .·. . ·.· ·_: .. -- ;· . . ... . ·. · .. ,,._ 1! .-- ~ •• ... , . .. ..

. ' .. I \ ' . ;,. • • : .~ ·1 .· . SPEECH FROM THE THRONE Delivered at the Opening of The Fourth Session of The Thirty-Fourt~ General Assembly · of" the Province of Newfoundland ,..: On Wednesday. .. ·. February 18th. 1970 by His Honour · · THE HONOURABLE E. JOHN A. HARNUM Lieutenant-Gove~or . . . ·~ . . ~· ' ·. -~ - . .. . . .. . , ~ ---·

·- ' MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: As we enter the eighth decade of the 20th century, New­ foundlanders are very conscious of the fact that this is also the begilming of the third decade of their career as citizens of Can· ada. The two decades have been incomparably the best in New· foundland's long history; and as we push and are drawn into the seventies we do so with lively awarenes that sweeping social and economic changes may all but overwhelm our Western civil· ization.

Newfoundland, like all of Canada's Provinces, but especially the less affluent ones, will have to generate greater effort than ever before. That effort will have to be intelligent and indefatig· able to an extent that w.e have never been able to achieve in the-past. The shape and character of our Province may well be made for a hundred years in the next ten, and Newfoundland· ers will need to exercise all of their courage and all of their patriotism to keep their Province abreast of the times. We may well ask: What are our options as a people? ~at are Newfoundland's chances. her opportunities?

Given courage, intelligence and patriotism; making ftill use of our resources of men and materials; devoting even more of our substance to the education effort; displaying openness of mind in our official and private approach to the problem of finding solutions; and pre­ supposing strong leadership by the Government of our Nation and by the Government of our Province: given all these, have we as a people got it in us, in the _coming decade, to build upon the foundation of the past centuries and in particular the past two decades a Province whose future will be no matter for doubt or even debate in the com!Pg years?

My Ministers have faced these questions and answered Yes. They are sure that our people will share their confidence ••• ~ .. '!">. in our Province's future.

We must hold our population and establish the conditions for steady, even rapid, increase of our numbers. We must maintain, and indeed expand and improve, the Province's pub­ lic ®rvices. We .must find eve!·increasing revenue to enable the Government to satisfy the proper demands of the people for an ever more attr:active and pleasant Province. We must resolutely reject permanent dependence on Ottawa as a prin­ cipal means of our existence. We must bring about a degree and quality of social and economic reconstruction that was never more than hoped for before.

These are the great purposes that my Ministers are deter­ mined that they and all Departments of Government will strive viqorously to accomplish. MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: Canada and the United States are at this moment caught in a crisis of relatively scarce money, the highest interest rates for 110 years, and a degree of inflation that causes the gravest concern among statesmen, financiers and industrial and com­ mercial leaders. These situations are not very helpful to the North American economy at the outset of the seventies.

My Ministers believe, however, upon the basis of professional ad­ vice received, that these adverse factors will substantially sub­ side in the coming months. My Government have decided to call a conference of per­ sons and organizations to whom the economic future of om Province is of particular concern. This conference will be held in St.

John's in the near future, and to it my Ministers will in­ vite representatives of the local boards, committees or associa­ tions that have sprung up around the Province in recent years; representatives of Boards of Trade, Chambers of Commerce, Manufacturers' Associations: City and Town Councils; New­ foundland Federation of Labour, Newfoundland Federation of · Fisb;ermen, agricultural bodies, and oth:r producers' organiza­ tions; representatives of the mining, fishing, manufacturing in·

• ~ dustries; banks and other financial authorities; and representa· tives also of various other bodies that could be expected to be particularly concerned with the matters to be considered. The Government of Canada, enid the variouS departments of the Newfoundland Government will be asked to attend and assist.

My Ministers are hopeful that important and significant . results will flow from this conference which is planned to last for several days. · :~~ This great conference will be the forerunner to the intro­ duction of the Regional Economic Expansion programme which my Government are about to launch with the generous, im· aginative and indispensable help of the Government of Can· ada.

A great deal of preparat~on has been made in the Depart· ment of Community and Social Development of my Govern­ ment, in friendly and intimate collaboration with the Depart­ ment of Regional Economic Expansion of the Government of Canada •. My Ministers have long advocated precisely this type of financial and other assistance from the Government of our Nation, and they are profoundly pleased by these devel~ ments.

At long last the Government of Canada are embarked upon a large programme of employing the strength and wealth of the Nation to help the less developed Provinces to rise to a level close to the Canadian average. You will be given much detailed information on this programme in your present session. MR.

SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: It was with deep satisfaction that my Government wel­ comed the decision of the Government of Canada to introduce legislation into Parliament to provide a great reform in the salt codfish industry. ~e organization of a marketing board has 'been advocated for many years by my Ministers, and in June of 1964 they asked your House to adopt legislation to provide for the creation of the marketing board insofar as your House had the constitutional competence to do so. This legislation was enacted and has reposed in the Statutes of this Province

since 1964 awaiting only the enactment of Federal legislation to give it legal effect My Ministers share fully the confidence , felt by the fishermen in the prospect of better prices and con­ ditions in the salt codfish industry this year and in the future. MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: My Ministers, notwithstanding the opinion of the Supreme Court of Canada in the case of the Province of British Col­ umbia, continue to believe in the soundness of our Province's claim to mineral rights lying off the shores of our Province.

They have therefore engaged the services of a distinguished Canadian constitutional and legal authority to advise them on this matter, which admittedly is one of greatest importance to Newfoundland both now and in the future. R~ference to off-shore mineral rights, including of course oil and natural gas, leads inevitably to the grave matter of pol­ lution. Here is a problem which Newfoundlanders have had ~appy reason to discover, with most of the modern world in the past year or so, to be among the most menacing features of our industrial civilization.

My Ministers are very conscious ~ . of this men~ce, and they are resolved to take all the steps that · , they can practically take to reduce the danger substantially if it cannot be totally eliminated. MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE .. OF ASSEMBLY: Our Province, in the past two years, ·like most of the Prov­ inces of Canada, has experienced a disconcerting falling off in the level of economic activity and of economic health. Tight money, scarce money, high interest rates and fast mounting inflation have plagued us and continue to do so.

Notwithstanding these facts, my Ministers are quite con­ fident that 1970 will be a year of distinctly improved economic conditions compared with last year. The frozen and salted fish industry should see better prices. E.."<ports of herring for ...

direct human consumption will go up from an average of 15,000 barrels a year in recent times to over 80,000 barrels this year. There will be more employment at Churchill Falls. The DREE programme will go into operation. There will be a road­ building programme, and there will be important ruxal and urban development programmes. Important industrial devel­ opment will take place at Stephenville , Hawke's Bay and Come­ ry-Cha:nce. Power Development ~ continue in Conception Bay and in Bay d'Espoir.

The next great development in the production of hydro­ electric power in our Province is most certain to be done on the Lower Churchill. The British Newfoundland Corporation last year spent more than $2 million on field and engineering studies on one part of the Lower Churchill, that at Gull Island. That work last year included the drilling of fourteen thousand feet and mapping of .the whole area. These studies -indicated that a plant on Gull Island, which is only part of that

section of the great Churchill River, would produce approximately 21h, million horsepower of electricity. It is estimated that another 1% million horsepower could be produced at Muskrat Falls, for a total of approximately 4 million horsepower, or about seventeen thousand million. kilowatt hours a year. When this power is developed on the Lower Churchill and added to the · thirty-four thousand million kilowatt hours to be produced each · year on the Upper Churchill, it could give combined produc­ tion of fifty thousand million kilowatt. hours a year from this one watershed in Labrador.

Such production would place New­ foundland among the greatest sources of hydro-electric power in the world. It gives the people of Newfoundland. and Lab­ rador great satisfaction indeed to know that the Churchill River and watershed is only one of several great potential sources of hydro-electric power in Labrador. Very important expansion of the iron-ore producing indus­ try in Western Labrador is among the attractive possibilities of "our Province's immediate industrial future. There could be

· an extension of an iron ore development at Labrador City -amounting to as much as ten million tons of additional pro- duction of iron ore a year, giving employment to an additional • 700 workers, and involving an additional · capital investment of something between one hun~red million and two hundred million dollars.

A somewhat simi.lar development could pos­ sibly take place at a point not many miles removed from Lab­ ~ador City; and this, though not quite so large as the one that is possible at Labrador City, would involve the employment of ~any hundreds of other men, the production of many million tons of iron ore and the involvement of a very large sum of fresh capital.

My-Government have followed with care the public dis- . cussion, and have participated in some private discussion, of the effect that the mining tax proposals contained in the White Paper on Taxation, could have upon these possible new devel­ opments in Western Labrador. My_ Government have made strong representations to the Gov:ernment of Canada in this regard, for quite clearly it would be tragic for. Newfoundland and Labrador if any system of taxation were to have the effect of blocking a development so devoutly desired and so urgently need,ed.

My Government have followed with concern the recent development of American policy in connection with the opera­ tion of their armed forces base at Argentia, and they have maintained close liaison with the Government of Canada and the representative of the United States Government. My Min­ ~ters applied themselves energetically and with some success to the task of finding solutions for the problem of Stephenville, when the base there was phased out altogether. They will apply themselves with the same energy to the similar task of finding solutions at Argentia. MR.

SPEAKER AND :MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: As an important part of my Government's policy of im­ proving the quality of their administration, my Ministers con-

' ·- . tinue to reorganize and strengthen the Department of Finance and the Treasury Board. both of which, with the Department of Economic Development, and the Department of Community and Social Development are destined to play a vital

part in the economic and financial strengthening of our Province. The Civil Service, which in twenty years has grown from 5700 to 9900, and which is now costing the Province $45,000,000 a year in salaries, has been under close study for a year by Personnel Administration Sen.-ices of Chicago.

This well-known and respected American organization has performed similar tasks for a number of Canadian Provinces and American States, and my Government are confident that this review, with the accompanying recommendations, which have now been received by my Ministers, will bring about great improve­ men~ in. the efficiency and stability of the Civil Service. Your careful attention will be invited to this important aspect of pub­ lic administration. My Ministers have decided to strengthen greatly, and to extend the scope of, our central purchasing system.

My Min­ ister of Supply and his officials have made a thorough study of this matter, and Canadian Government specialists in central purchasing have been on loan to my Government. My Min­ isters believe that substantial savings of public funds can be effected, and you will be asked to consider legislation to enable certain important changes to be made in o~ purchasuig sys­ tem.

Your House within the past year or so gave some con­ sideration to the question of creatmg the office of Ombudsman for this Province, and you will be asked in this Session to adopt legislation empowering my Government to appoint an Ombuds- man. Very important legislation dealing with the re-organization and the consolidation of education services in this Province was enacted last year. It· was pointed out at that time that

in the ensuing months attention would be given to additional changes and reforms. In the legislation to which I have re­ ferred, a body known as the General Advisory Committee was created with responsibility for advising my Ministers on edu­ cation policy. On that body, of which my Minister of Education is Chairman, sit representatives of the Churches, the Newfound­ land Teachers' Association, the University and senior officers of the Department of Education.

As a result of the co-operation received from the constituent members of that body you will be asked to consider some ten Bills relating to various aspects of education. While some of these will recommend minor amendments, others will recommend substantial, far-reaching amendments. In particular you will be asked to adopt meas­ ures which will make mandatory the election of at least one­ third of the members of all school boards and the holding of certain school board meetings which will be open to the gen­ eral public.

You will be asked also to consider substantial amendments to the School Tax Act, based on recommendations made by a committee appointed last year to study school tax legislation in this Prov~ce. Among the recommendations that you will be asked to consider will be several designed to re­ move certain inequities from our present system of school fin­ ancing. :MR. SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: My Government feel that it would now be appropriate to ask you to enact legislation to repeal the

section of the labour law that decertified locals of the International Woodworkers of America, and you will accordingly _be invited to adopt the necessary amendment. My Government will ask you to repeal an amendment made in 1967 to the 'Vorkmen's Compensation Act. This amend­ ment allowed certain appeals to be made to the Supreme Court, and my Ministers feel after three years' experience, that thiS right of appeal should be removed. They are supported

·. · ID this Vie\V by the organized labour movement and by organ­ ized industrial interests. My Government have decided that the ~e has coma to remove the exception that was . made to the minimum wage where fish processing is concerned. My Ministers feel that the provisions of minimum wage legislation should be made to . ·. apply to workers in fish processing as to other establishments enid other industries. My Ministers feel that this can now be done without running the risk of _hurting · the fish industry.

My Ministers, in common with many citizens of the Prov­ ince, have been deeply _ concerned wi!h the problem of finding a practical means of prov~ding hotisi?g for families of modest income. This problem is one that is not peculiar to Newfound­ land, but confronts people in many parts of North America. My Government have considered the possibility of finding at least a partial solution of this particular problem in a plan to erect what are popularly called .. shell" or "partially com­ pleted" housing units.

This is a plan whereby families, after a small down payment, are able to enter a house as the own­ ers rather than as tenants and by monthly payments spread over a period of years be able at. last to discharge the debt and to be sole owners of the houise occupied. My Government have negotiated with Canada's Minister responsible for public hous­ ing and he has expressed lively interest in my Government's plans.

A few such "shell" houses have actually been erected by my Ministers on an experimental basis, and my Ministers are hopeful that they will find it to be practical to proceed this year ~ith a programme of construction of a somewhat substan­ tial number of such new occupier-o~ner homes. My Govern-. . . ment will present to you in this Ses$ion proposals to enable · them to help in the provision of a number of co-operative homes that would be built and owned under · the condominium plan. My Gove~ent are giving consideration to the matter of effecting changes in the machinery fo~ regulation and control ... . -...,.

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-. of house rents in this Province with a view to making proced­ ures more effective in behalf of tenants. MR. SPEAKE..fl AND MEJ.\1BERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: You will be asked in this Session to consider a substantial number of pieces of legislation. These will i¥clude

an Act en­ titled- The Clean Air, Water and Soil Authority Act, a new Mechanics Lien Act, amendment to Public Printing and Station­ ery Act, an important amendment to The Department of Supply Act, and amendments to the Civil Service Act, Community Councils Act, St.

John's Metropolitan Area Act, The Motor Car­ rier Act, Alcoholic Liquors Act, The Constabulary (Pensions) Act, The Crown Lands (Mines and Quarries) Act, The Fish In­ spection Act, The Highway Traffic Act, Hours of Work Act, Local Government Act In addition to these you will be asked to consider - Solemnization of Marriages Act, Motorized Snow Vehicles Act, an amendment to the Salt Fish Development Cor­ poration Act, amendment to the Social Assistance Act and an amendment to the Welfare Institutions Licensing Act. Other pieces of legislation will come before you in the present Ses­ sion. MR.

SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY: You will be asked to grant Supply unto Her Majesty. I invoke God's blessing upon your labours as you give your careful consideration to matters laid before you for the weUare of our beloved Province.

.:;: ·. February 18, 1970 Tape 2 Page 1 gc His Honour the Lieutenant~Govemor left the Assembly Chawber. Hr9.Speaker resumed the Chair. On motion of the Hon. L.R. Curtis, President of the Council, a Bill, "An Act to Amend the Nomenclature Board Act, 1959", introduced and read a __ . first time, by leave of the House, ordered read a second time on tomorrow. MR.

SPEAKER: I have the honour to inform the !louse that this afternoon at 3:00 His Honour the Lieuten _ant-Governor opened this fourth session of the Thirty-Fo~rth General Assembly by a gracious Speech from the Throne, 'of which, for the purpose of accuracy I have obtained a copy. What is the will and pleasure of the House concerning this speech~ That it be taken as read? On motion agreed! HR. C.M. L~~E: Mr.

Speaker, promoted by a strong and sincere feeling of gratefulness, I think it is my duty ' to thank the Premier for the great honour he has conferred upon me in askinp, me to move the address in reply to the Speech from the Throne. I am honoured, therefore, not only to express my views to that speech, but I am very conscious of my responsibilities today as spokesman for my · friends and supporters for the district of Trinity North.

I feel that the honour was intended, not for me, but for that district, and it is a recog- nition by our.Premier ?f his attachment to and consideration for that dis- trict, whose constituents are still putting their trust in the head of the Government with the assurance that in the future as well as in the past, they will give him the strongest support. I salute the people of the district of Trinity Harth and I assure them of my devotion and loyal co-operation with regard to the solution of some of the difficult and costly problens which they now f-ace. Hr.

Speaker,_here we are today the elected representatives of the people·gathered in a free legislative, fa~ing problems which are bound to solve not only economic ills, but most important, hu~an .ills, and facing and solving these as a free legislative we '1-Jill contribute, not o.nly to the welfare and the progress of our own r.~ovince, but we will once again show Canada what Democratic Legislation can contribute to human betterment. I selieve that this Government and t'his Parliament are possessed of the will to solve these problems. They will find a way.

- 2- Hr. Speaker, the Throne Speech indicated the Government's intentions. It proposes measures, both immediate and long-term, to promote the develop- ment and expansion of our economy - long-term Liberal policy, hydro-electric, pollution, and mining, especially iron ore. t.'e all look forward to the introduction of the Regional Econom~c Expansion Programme, kno~n as Dree, and the preliminary steps which are being taken by this Government by the calling of a conference in the very near future to assist in the implementati~n. I feel, Mr.

Speaker, that we have at last found a plan which will help solve the regional disparity which exists in this nation and especially in our own Province. We all look forward to the implementation of the first phase in April and the final, later in the year. Mr. Speaker, one of the most important matters contained in the ' Speech from the Throne is the great reform which is being inaugurated in the salt c9dfish industry, namely the organization of a marketing board.

With the formation of the Newfoundland Federation of Fishermen by this Government some nineteen years ago, one of the first requests from that organization to Government was the formation of a board and, finally in June of 1964, when I was the then Minister of Fisheries, ·the Government asked this House to adopt legislation to provide for the creation of such a board as far as this ~ono~rabl~Ho~se had the constitutional right to do so. This legis- lation was passed and unfortunately has reposed in the statutes of this t?rovince since 1964.

It took the Federal Government in Ottawa a long time to accede to our request and six valuable years have been lost but better late than never. Mr. Speaker, I feel confident we all look forward to the formation and work of this board and, al~hou~h I visualize many problems and much hard work which will require the efforts of all concerned and especially the co-Qppration of the fishermen, I am most optimistic that it can, and will succeed, with substantial benefits to the fishermen and the codfish industry. Hr.

Speaker, the old expression of the Speech from the Throne being outstanding for what it does not contain surely cannot ap~lied . in today's great manifestation of Liberal policy. The Government recognizes the fact that to fight unemployment more is.needed than financial assistance to those

. without jobs. The present Government have spared neither money nor effort to give to all Newfoundland students an opportunity to complete their education, but this is not enough, and the Government have also taken a very forward step to provide facilities for the training and re-training of workers. In this session there will be very important legislation relating to various aspects of education for changes and ~eforms to better serve and ~ive better opportunities to the present and future children of our land. Mr.

Speaker, 1 feel confident we are all happy to see the Labour Law which decertified locals of the International Wood Workers of America about to be repealed and, having been a part of that which caused the problem and which caused the enactment of that legislation, I still conscientiously feel it vas necessary then, but the time is now ripe to carry out the intentions contained in the Throne Speech. Mr.

Speaker, the Government has never been lax in its consideration for the care of the sick, the aged, the infirm, the retarded, and the outcast and it is inspiring to knotl that the progressive policy in providing houses for families of modest income is being extended and consolidated in an orderly plan which is commendable to all concerned. Mr.

Speaker, 1 have not dealt at length in this address with many of the problems, because I feel it is the intention of the Government, as well as this Parliament, to engage in a frank, ser~ous, mature and responsible dis- eussion of the issue. 1 believe the time has come when we 3hall have to take a very realistic look at our progress· and consolidate our gains, and no one with any sense of proportion, patriotism, or duty can deny the fact that the past twenty years have been creative, progressive and the greatest in our history.

To those of us who know and travel our Prov~nce extensively, no comparison can be Made with the Newfoundland of today and the Newfoundland of twenty years ago. All of which has been carried out by a Liberal Government under the dynamic leadership of our Premier, the Uonourable Joseph R. Smallwood. And here, }~. Speaker, with your indulg~nce and that of this Honourable House, 1 would like to make a few-personal remarks.

----------~ - ~ - 4 Firstly, shortly after the last election, I met with our Premier and informed him of my futre intentions. I told him that I did not intend to remain in politics when the present asseobly was dissolved and that I would not be a candidate in the next election. The Premier respectfully accepted my decision and I now reaffirm that decision categorically. Secondly, I was invited into the Liberal Party by the present Premier, the Honourable Mr. Smallwood. I have been a member of that party for some fourteen ~ears.

I intend to support the Honourable the Premier and hls government until this Government has been dissolved. In other words, I do not intend to resign my seat or cross the floor of this Honourable House. And I might add, Mr. Speaker, I certainly don't intend to jump out through the window, as some reporters would wish us to do. I have been in public life for almost fifty years and I have no regrets as to the calibre of service which I have tried to render my island home and province. An~ now, Mr.

Speaker, one final word and may I close with somewhat the same thinking as I used in my maiden speech· in the House of Assembly in the old Colonial Building some thirteen years ago. That was the first session .of the Thirty-First General Assembly, and I t,..as speaking on a Friday, March 29, 1957_, and it contains somewhat of the same challenge as the begin- ning of the Speech from the Throne at this session.

People must be made to realize that it is only through the full co-operation and the combined efforts of both Government and Electorate that this province can have a future of achievement in material things, of progress in civic affairs and of creative satisfaction in things of the mind and sp~rit. Quality of the people is the key to quality of the product of the organization, .of the community, of the province and of the nation. I believe· we are richly endowed in natural resqurces and above all, in human . . resources if we bestir ourselves and re~lize our possibilities.

Now is the great test of whether we w~ll do greater things or wait for new generations or the operation of blind materialistic forces to bring a better turn on the wheel of fortune. In short, ar. Speaker, have we today the will, the energy,

-s- the readiness to work, to sacrifice, the public spirit. the good will 1 the ~il:i:ty to work together, and the vision to ~o after the level of life offered 'by our natural resources anc!. the capacities of our people, or are ee can~ent with things as they are. To me this is a day of opportunity and optimism. People are poor because of liuman arrangements, not lack of resources. If we took for our guide, the ~ords of the motto underneath our Coat of Arms, Which is immediately over your seat, Mr. Speaker, and with faith in oorselves and our Gove:tnll1ent this could be a very: happy and prosperolls Province. Mr.

Speaker, it i .s Otl this note and with ·great pleasure I move that a cOIIIIIlittee of this House be ap.pointed to draft the adc!ress in reply to the Speech from the Throne. · . -- ... - ,.

... . ; . ,. February 18th., 1970 DR. J~!ES McGRATH: for Trinity North. -------- - ~· Tape no. 3 MW- 1 I rise to support the motion made by the bon. member I do not propose to delay the House by discussing all the items in this significant and wide-ranging declaration of policy.

Some of them have been ably enlarged upon by the hon. member who has just spoken. · All of them will be discussed during the debate by various hon. members on both sides of this House but certain of them are of such far-reaching importance and interest that it would be a serious omission for the seconder of the motion to ignore them. 1 There is no doubt, Mr. Speaker, and everybody knows that we are in a time of great stress; politically, socially and economically, and in our modern living all these three are closely interlinked. The

preamble to the Speech from the Throne most clearly points out that do deal hopefully with these crises will take the united efforts - and the key word is the word •·united" - the united efforts of every single social force ·we have.

It will take the co-operation of both major Governments working with the cities and municipalities and with business organizations and labour unions and, indeed, of everyone in the land with an enlightened social outlook. t · am sure that both the House and the public will approve the plan of the Government to bring together all these age?cies with the hope that unified effort will contribute significantly to an effective solution to these urgent and complex problems. Education, Mr. Speaker, has been a constant and major pre-occu~ation of the present administration.

In its very first year in office it sponsored the granting of full University status to the old Memorial University College.

Subsequently it promoted the establishment of regional and central high schools and initiated a far-reaching system of scholarships and bursarie~ which have bade it possible for thousands of young Newfoundlanders to take advantage of the opportunities now open to them. · ¥~re recently, with the generous assistance from the Federal Government, Premier S~4llwood's administration provided our people with a network of trade schools, a Collere of trades and Te7hology, a College of Fisheries, Electronics and Navig~tion and also, of course, with a very important

...... -. ·-.: ------------------------------- ~ February 18th., 1970 Tape no. 3 ~!W-2 . other one the Medical School, the be~inning of a Medical School. More recently still the Government introduced a policy whereby uo student, otherwise qualified, would be prevented from ·attending University ·through lack of financial means.

The result of the various progressive measures taken by the pr~sent . administration has been a veritable educational explosi~n, which in turn has made both necessary and possible the appointment of a Royal Commission on Education and a subsequent reorganization of the Department of Education itself. In introducing necessary reforms the Government have sought and received ~he active co-operation and help of the various religious denominations. I feel sure, Mr. Speaker, that all bon. members will share with me the approval of the plans for continued advances in the Educational field.

Having served for a number of years as a member of a small school board, 1 ean appreciate and welcome the co~ttee's concern to ensure full community participation in the selection of school-board members and the assuming of more responsibility at the local level for Education. Newfoundland, I believe, is ,the only province in Canada without a university applicable system of school tax. It is to be hoped that the work of the General Advisory Committee will provide practical suggestions for the remedying of this situation. Mr.

Speaker, the financing of Education has assumed awesome proportions. mto can remember when the total budget for the "·hole public service was under $12~~llion1 It would be frightening to see that this year's estimate for Education··alone is about $82 million. I would be afraid to see so much money'spent, Mr. Speaker, if I were not even more afraid to contemplate what would be the future of the present ·and the future generations of young_ Newfoundlanders if we did not spend it. Other services have progressed in cost almost in the same degree.

This prese~t year's budget for Health is about $60 million and the department has a staff of 2800 people. ~ can remember when what is now the Department of Health and this sounds almost incredible, was represented by one official iD the office of the Colonial secretary and that official was the late Mr.

.· - ··----· _______________ __.._ .... William Randall and all the assistance he had was his violin which he _used to play once in a while to co~fort himself in his moments of understanable pessimism. Now, Mr. Speaker, these huge amounts are not to be obtained effortlessly. The same situations, the same public ~eeds and the same demands for services exist fn most of the western world where the new standards of living are in vogue. Newfoundland's monetary problems are not unique and what is more they are not insuperable.

These problems will be surmounted as similar ones have been in the past and they will be surmounted and•.under our present leadership, as they have been in the past. The Civil Service of Newfoundland has nearly doubled in the twenty years that have passed since this Government took over from the Commission. The extent and complexities· of its duties have far more than doubled in that time and the Government felt that the time had arrived for a survey of the service and its duties and capabilities, with a ~i~ to increasing its efficiency and studying its problems.

It should be made •. clear, to avoid any possible misapprehensions, that this is a scientific study of methods and problems and not in any sense an investigation in the pejorative sense. The Newfoundland Civil Service is a very fine service indeed but no organizatio~, of course, is ~e.-perfect as to be incapable of improvement. I think I may claim to have as good a general knowled~e of the Service as any hon. mel!lber here. I know it both from within and without. I was 'l civil servant myself for twenty-eight years and knew the dicipline of the Service from within.

I was a minister of the Crown for twelve and responsible for imposing that dicipline on others. From this forty years experience, ~x. Speaker, I emerged with an unqualified admiration for the Newfoundland Civil Service as a body of men and women dedicated and devoted to the best traditions of public service. There was a time, Mr. Speaker, when a Civil Service job ~as thought to be a sinecure. The day's work was supposed to be devoted to making tea and reading newspaper.sand I fear that some flavour of that notion still . lingers in the minds of some of the public.

If it was ever true, and I doubt it, it vas a long, long time ago, becaus·e the modern official works as hard and as long

February 18th., 1970 Tape no. 3 Mlo1 - 4 as anyone in commercial life. Like Gilbert's policeman, the Civil Servant 1·s life is not always a happy one. The public demands are insatiable and any. government's ability to satisfy them is necessarily limited by the funds available. It is a rare program that has enough funds to content everyone who wishes to avail of them even if they do so with just qualifications.

It is the civil servant who has to bear daily the brunt of public dissatisfaction~ · True most of the public are reasonable and courteous but that is not true of many of the people that the official has to deal with, and he must keep his temper in sometimes very trying circumstances and he must always measure up to what Chesterton calls the hardest of all tests, "to do his duty cheerfully in spite of being insolently ordered to do it by some disapp~inted or ~gry applicant~"- The civil s-erVapts' hours are by now means short, his work is often exacting, tedious or difficult, his remuneration no more than average and his public image is at the mercy of the grumbler and the unreasonable.

I do not pretend, YJ. Speaker that there are no weak members of the service. That would be too much to expect in a body of nearly 10,000. But I do assert that misfits and irresponsibles are remarkably few - far less than ont: might expect in so large a group. My colleagues, when I was in 1f1\ serViee· and the staff of the various departments were, almost tdthout exception, hard­ worki~g. conciencious and co-operative people with as high a sense of public duty as any organization I know of. The Civil Service, Mr. Speaker, is sometimes unduly criticized .. and undeservedly "criticized.

They cannot speak for the~selves and I am happy to have this opportunity to speak for them. Another important reference, }fr. Speaker, is the question of roads. I am delighted to see that a road program has been announced for the coming . year. This vill be glad news indeed for many in all parts of the Island.

In the past many settlecents, especially on the Avalon Peninsula, had roads that served the main needs of the people but that now do so no longer. the modern importance of roads, and good roads, in the successful prosecution of the fishery is comparati'-'ely new. but·'"ft is becoming of increasing importance when fish has to be transported to freezers in good condition. My own district of St. Hary's and its neir,hbouring district of Ferryland are typical though not unique examples of this problem There is deperate need for a

. ~~·­ ·.· rebruary 18th., 1970 Tape no. 3 MY- 5 paved road through St. ~4ry's Bay and Trepassey linking up with the Southern Shore Road at Cape Broyle. This is not a mere convenience, but an economic necessity for both these districts and for others similarly placed and we may hope that the new road program will be directed to needs such as these. LaS[y, ~rr. Speaker, the Throne Speech envisages a great industrial expansion in Labrador.

I have always felt, Sir, that the tremendous achievement of the Smallwood administration in the openin~ up of that vast area, with its .limitless possibilities, has never received the public acclaim that it deserves. The drama and the impac~ of it has not struck the public immaginaticn as it should - possibly because it was a peaceful achievement and had no wars or bloodshed to romanticize it. But it is as magnificent a~ feat as ·Cecil Rhodes in South Africa and in time may well surpass it. And this, Mr.

Speaker, was essentially the work of one man, the present leader of the Liberal Party and Premier of Newfoundland. He obviously did not do it single-handed. He recruited powerful help; but every step in that vast developmcr.t was due to his inspiration, his immagination, his tenacity and his faith in a great destiny for this country. Mr. Speaker, I saw it stated in yesterday's newspapers that members on this side o; the House were all terrorized by the domination of one man and were trapped by what the author called the tentacles of fear and frustration. Mr.

Speaker, I certainly do not feel dominated or trapped nor have I seen any sign of it in any of my colleagues. I am , Sir, myself reaching close to the biblical limit of three score and ten. ~y age and state of health have brought me to the end of my active career. My situation, therefore, is that I have notning to hope or to fear from pleasing or displeasing anyone. (Not anyone, Hr.

Speakef, with the possible exception perhaps of a certain lady now · sitting·up there in the central gallery.) Therefore, Sir, I think I am entitled to belief when I say that if I speak well of the Leader of the Liberal Party it is because I think well of him, and I think very well of him indeed. I think this country ~as fortunate to -have had his guidance and leadersh~ for the past twenty-one years. No public man that we have o~ have had could have displayed the skill, immagination and ener~y that he has shown and I hope he may be granted many years yet to complete his work and lead us out of our present

.· - ~ .. ~ ~ . ' -. .. february l~tn. 1~7u '!ape ;:4 JW - 1 HR. SPEAKER: It has been moved and seconded that the Col'l'.mittee be appointed to draft the Address in Reply, to the gracious SnPech from the Throne. Is the Bouse ready for the question? BON. A. J. MURPHY (l.eader of the Opposition):· ll.s I stand here today, I feel very proud indeed, to act as Leader of Her ~ajesty's loyal Opposition, following in the footsteps of so many of my fellow Newfoundlanders, who have distinguished themselves as former leaders. ~-lr.

Speaker, it is indeed a highly privileged and responsible office for any ~ewfoundlander to inherit, carryinp, with it, the very heavy burden of endeavouring to study, and ·evaluate legislation and policies produced by Government, and to determine as far as humanly possible, the good or bad affects, such policies will have on the welfare of our people. And as an alternative to bring fo~ard pro~rams which we feel would be in the best interest of all the people of our Province.

I would like to restate, as has been stated on many previous occasions, that our position is not to oppose, just for the sake of opposing, but to listen to, and to the best of our ability, provide the best le~islation that is possible. Mr. Speaker, before I get into my few brief remarks, I would like to offer congratulations to His Honour th~Lieutenant-Covernor and lovely lady, on the very capable manner in l~ich they represented Her gracious Majesty the Queen, at this very impressive ceremony, which is I believe, his first official opening of this House of Assembly.

I would also like to congratulate the mover and the seconder, of the Address in R~ly, but it strikes me as ra.ther ~usual to hear two veteran m~mbers, particularly when they are ex-Cabinet ~embers;~perform this duty. The usual practice being for the newer members .. . ~ ... of this House to do this duty. But after listening to the speech so ably read by His Honour, and in the name of Her ~~jesty the Queen, I can easily se~ why it must have taken some persuasion and some reluctance on the par~ of the younger generation, to be committed to move this motion.

Mr. sp:eaker, I would S.w at this time how verjr "lia'ppy-, and how very proud we are on this side, to welcome to our ranks, two outstanding Newfoundlanders · in the person of the hon. member for Fortune - the bon. member for Burin - who have upon recently occupied very, v~ry important portfolios in the Government . ~ .. ___ ; _ of this Province. This is rather significant at this time, ~r. Speaker, and ·r think during the discussions that will follot.t in this Speech, perhaps many things Will COme forth, that naturally the liiOVer and the Seconder, did not ... : W: · •

February 18th 1970 Tape I 4 JW-2 mention in their lovely addresses. Also on this side 1 think it will be. noticed we have four or five other member who have, for some reason or another, fallen out with the Government, who apparently did not agree with certain policies of Government. And I believe to the people of this Province there is some doubt in their minds as to just what is happening in the ranks of Government and how well things are going.

Mr" Speaker, it !s rather significant at this time and at this ' ~ . . - ............. . ; ~ - stage of our economy that I would like ' to read some reports from the Amulree Royal.Commission Report, as submitted in 1933, on Newfoundland. The public debt of the Island, accumulated over a century, was in twelve years more than doubled . its assets dissipated by improvident ad- ministration, the people misled~ into tbe acceptance of false standards and the country sunk in waste and extravagance.

The onset of the world depression found the Island with no reserves, its primary industry neglected and its credit exhausted. At the first wind of adversity its elaborate potential collapsed like a house of cards. The flowing visions of a new Utopia were dispelled with cruel suddeness by the cold realities of national insolvency. And today a disillusioned and bewildered people, deprived in many parts of the country of all hope of earning a livlihood, are haunted by the grim specter of paupers and starvation and dole.

Loans, Sir, are the object not merely of enabling the government of the day to liquidate its annual debts of current account }lJlt .aiso of pro-.. .:: .. ~ . ' ... ; - ._.,,. viding it with funds with which to embark on costly . schemes of capital expenditure. We need not perhaps enter into detail of the expenditure in this period, apart from noting that it was marked by waste and extravagance on a reckless scale. There are, however, certain aspects of the government's activities to which we wish to refer.

The names "Liberal" 1 "Conservative", "Tory 11 , and ••Labour" are in use but ~be division is all one of personalities. 1 think that is a very important point to remember at this time. In fact very few businessmen are prepared to enter politics, · even though members of the government are permitted to carry on their business while in office. This '!as 1933.

··.;,.: .. . ··- I February 18th., 1970 Tape no. 5 mw This is not due to the lack of public spirit but to the public abuse and personal abuse to which candidates are subjected and to the feeling that if elected they would be suspected of being associated with corrupt dealings. The spoil system has been for years in full force in Newfoundland given the conception that it is quite fair while one's party is in power ean make what one can for oneself and one's friends. It is natural that in the minds of many people politics should be regarded simply as job farming.

Impartial administration is unknot.m and hardly expected. The adher 'ence of the other party are deemed to have no ground for protests since their turn vill come on a change of gover~~ent. These practices in themselves cannot but lead to an unhealthy throne in public life. This continuous process of misgovernment has increased the burden on the fishermen and on the_poor members of the community until it 'is now insupportable. A further aspect of life in l!e..,rfoundland which cannot fail to impress the detached observer is the vreckless manner in which resources of the eo~try have been dissipated.

As will be readily appreciated from the description of the existing political system, political control in N~~oundland has involved periodic reversals of policy, lack of continuity, absence of expert service, nearly all appointments being political, without reference t~ merit and the patronage·of certain business firms in disregard of the just requirements of others. Now, Mr. Speaker, I persona:ly and I think many people in this Province feel that we again are reaching a crisis in the financial aspect of our Province.

Where today our numbers on Welfare and on Unemploycent Insurance and actually without work has grown to phenomenal numbers. From 1966 to 1968, the last period I have figures for, our Social Assistance rose from $7,450,000 .to $18,882,000. Our total vote for all forms of Social Assistance ending March 1970 was $31 million and this from a Government that has been in power for twenty years has received hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of Qillions in handouts from Ottawa in special ~rants. We hear the members talk about great industrial development. Hr.

Speaker, I feel th::tt it is time for -al1 of us in tl-tis House of Assembly, not only on this side of the House, but on both sides of the House : ~- to ta!te a long hard look at '•here this Province is heading. In the Speech from

tebruary l~tn., l~bH ·.rape no. !I 1151 .l'age 2 the Throne today, we hear mentioned power at Churchill Falls, and I think ve have heard that before. I think we have ' heard ot the oil drilling, and • we are going to fight the Supreme Court. British Columbia :seems ·_to have & good a lawyer as we will have and we will win that case, I am sure. We have heard at last that it is now appropriate to enact legislation to repeal the

section of the Labour Law that these certified locals of the International Woodworkers·: of America. We are going to change that law. There is not a wqrd about the hospital workers. I guess they will have to wait another couple of years and see what we will do about them. We are going to have another great television extravag~nza+ another sreat conference. I think we can go back a couple of years and remember the great Educational Conference where we ~alled on the 700 experts in education throughout this Province. I think everybody rereembers that.

These people vere invited to come in and give their ideas to the Government to frame policies governing education. I think everybody knows the way it ended. There was 'only one opinion, one expert and I do not know what the suggestions were. One voice said that this is my Government's policy. We do not change that. Mr. Speaker, I believe that has been the story of this administration for the past twenty years. I believe that has been the reason for so many of these fine and hon. gentlemen on this side, my two new colleagues and our separated friends a few feet away. Yes, ~~.

Speaker, it is not my idea at this time to go into every thing, if I may use that expression to cover this Speech from the Throne. I feel that this is the hour, if you like, this is the hour of decision for all of us. The .time has arrived, when we must stand up and not in hero worship of any great individual, not for the purpose of perpetuating any party in power. I believe we have a moral, a moral obligation to the people who elected us, to all the people of this Province, the whole half million of them. I believe there is still some morality left in the world.

I hope so where we let our consciences be our guide, where we owe our fellow man a debt, where we try to the best of our ability to provide jobs for those . who are seeking them and do not let us fool ourselves ladies and gentle~en• Everyone on Welfare does not want to 1ve of Gove~ent pap. I believe a great majority of our Newfoundlanders want to do a descent day's uork to bring their families up as you and I would like to bring ours up as descent God-fearing

4 .. Febr~ry 18th. s 1968 Tape no. S mw page 3. eitizelUJ. !-believes Mr. Speaker, that bef~re this se.ssion is over; be it «;hart or be it long or be it medium sized, we vUl have to come to gfips. No longer can we live on false promises, if we vant to cheek back some of the recordss some of the statements made by•this Gove~nts it would shock you to see. We cannot brand them as lies in this Houses but just promises that were not fulfilled. Not long ago .. -- :.. . - - .. 1 • ...

r~bruary 18, 1970, Tape 6;- Page 1 -- ab MR. MURPHY: I l.ras researching some matters on our · friends on Bell Islan-d ag~in. In 1955 I believe the bon. member at that time Mr. Nish Jackman stood on the floor of the House, it was while the Bill for creating Wabush was being discussed and asked a question '' Row will thi~ affect Bell Island?" and the answer was given without one word of hesitation. It will have no effect on Bell Island.

There had been a recent survey made, in this answer was given by the President of the United States " and the 'I<.'Orld will be short of iron ore for at least fifty years." We remember again this great document that was to be signed not· a day before the last election but a day after.

We remember again the promise that was made to this ill-fated and unfortunate part of our Province where all the assets from Dosco, the proceeds which would be approximately $1 million would be given to the citizens committee over there, consisting of the representative cler~en and other citizens to distribute a~~ng the people. tihere are those assets? The last reckoning I found that there would be a deficit on the I sale of these assets. These are some of the thin~s Mr. Speaker, that I feel the oeople of our Province can no lonl!er be suhi ected to.

I believe that "'~ have to stand up, every one of us, every elected member of this House bearing in mind at all times his respon~i~ility not to his party, not to his leader, I ~~11 repeat it a~ain, but to the people he represents. I ~an only say in conclusion ~r. Speaker. and before I conclude there was one thing I meant to mention and it ~~s the presence in the House today of thre~ outstanding Newfoundlanders in the· person!! of three M.P.'s from O~tat-Ta, ~rr. McGrath, Mr. ~undrigan and ~r. Carter, and I a~ sure ladies and gentlemen that we are very happy to see these ~entlemen here.

I am sure that the Pre~ier is more than delighted because his admiration for these gentlemen I know - kno~~ no bounds in public·print, and I am sure that in person he ~~uld like to really extend them a sincere t.'elcome. But Mr. Speaker, Pe look fort,•ard to a verv interesting debate. l-1e look forward to everybody takin~

part in this de~ate and I can only say in conclusion that 'lo.-ith God's help throu~h this session 'l-7e Hill determine as christian gentlemen as responsible Ne10•foundJ anders just Phere our duty lies. Thank you very much. APPLAUSE: P.ON •. J. R. Sfd_'\U.t-!r.OJ) (Pl!E~!F.ll'): ~r. Speaker, I 'rl.sh first to say a wrod of appreciation of the magni~icent manner in which the new Governor of our Province performed his official duty today. I think that everv member of the House and everv Newfoundlander who Raw or heard him, will share my satisfaction in the __ _.Je _____ _

o.~ .· ' · -. ··. "' ~ . . ,-,....·· .. ..... -. February 18, 1970, Tape 6, Page 2 -- aph .· .. .... of a fine and upstanding Newfoundlander. I am sure we are all very pleased that we have with us today no fewer than three former Governors of our Province. The Hon. Sir Leonard Outerbrid2e, The Hon. Campbell MacPherson and the Ron. Fabian O'Dea. They were not able to be present at the sessions of the House of Assembly when they ~ere in office except to come, perform their official duty and then leave.

I often wondered if they did not feel that they would rather stay awhile at any rate, and share in some of the debate. Well when they go out of office they can do that as I perhaps one day will do sitting back down there in the dim and distant future perhaps, share with the strange~s in the galleTY the fun of hearing the gladiators tearin~ each throats out or trying to. I would offer a word of congratulation to the two hon. gentlemen who moved and seconded the motion before you !·!r. Speaker the hon. member for Trinity North and the hon. member for St. Mary's.

They are visible embodiment of a very old British Parliamentary fact, a very old British Parliamentary practice, and that is that ex-ministers, former ministers of the Crown upon becoming ex-ministers do not invariably go out in a huff. They do not invariably cross the floor, but they quiet~y take their place among the backbenchers, the private members of the House who support the Govern~ent·and f~ction accordingly without rancour and without hatred. This has hapoened so often in t~e Rritish Parliament.

In the British Parliament it is quite common for a member of the Rouse to be invited into the Cabinet and to- serve· itt" rtt'f··cahtn!!t·'~utC! the-rL.to be invited to leave the Cabinet because the· Premier of En~land and the Premier of any country under the British system ~ust be free, he ~ust be free to choose his colleagues in his Cabinet.· To invite them in and to invite them out: If the leader of the Government had not that right he has no ri~ht.

He might as ~~ll not he leader.· And hon.· ~embers of the Fou~e when told ry the leader of the r~vernment, the Premier, my dear colleal:'ue, my dear friend or Rill or Toa, or "'hatever he normally addre!'lses them I think you ou~ht to step c'fm·'ll no,.,, this ou~ht not to l>e taken in the 1·Tron~~: S'!'lirit. This ou~ht not to he taken ;~c; an attack on the hon. member. There"is sheer necessity, unavoidahle·necp~c;itv upnn everv Premier to or.ganize and to rcoreitnize his Cithinet to shHt 'finisters from one portfolio to another, and then perhaos to a third and a fourth and a fifth. The hon.

Minister who sits behind me the present ~finister of F.duc:.ltion ,.ms once in the Cabinet

February 18, 1970, Tape 6, Pa~e 3 -- a~b Minister of Education, and I asked him to take the Portfolio of Mines, Agriculture and Resources ~nd he did, ~nd then I asked him to take the portfolio of Minister of P.ighways and he did, and then I asked him to take the portfoilio of ~inister of Finance and he did, and then I asked him to take once again the portfolio of Education. Pas not the leader of the Government the right and the duty to do that? To reor~anize his Cabinet by taking in new fresh minds, fresh names, fresh blood, fresh ideas and to let out others?

Or to re-arran~e within the same personnel, this i!'; ordinary but I do it and I am a Facist, I am a Nazi, the Primer ~inister of Enp.land does it and he is the leader of a ~reat democracy. t~ere does the difference lie, is it a difference of opposition, or is it a difference of system? I would like to congratulate the nev. Leader of the loyal Opposition. He is the seventh leader of the Opposition, the seventh since Confederation he ts .number seven. Number seven is a very significant number.

The ancients regarded the figure seven ~~th awe, it was a mysterious, it was a magical number, I hope that for the bon. ~entlem~~ it will turn out to ~e a ma~ical if not a mysterious number. I hope that he will be able to hold the job. 1 hope that as leader of the loyal Opposition, as the leader of Her Majestys loyal Opposition he ~11 be able to hold that job down for as long as he wishes to have it. I hope thatt the bon. gentleman t-rill be re,. .. arded 10.-ith loyal support, with loyal alle~iance. I hope that he will be the leader of the loyal Opposition for a lon~ time to come. That is the worst I wish him.

I do not think too much of his pessimism here today. He did not go quite so far here today as some have gone outside this .P.ouse. When they try to hint to the world, to the t-~orld, not just to the oeoole of this Province, but to the world, they try to hint that ~evfoundland is in a mess, i~ a mess. in a financial mess, that ~re are bankru"!)t, that we are insolvent. that we are in a mess. The other day . .. :

tebruary 1~~n. l~bH. 'J.ape ~~ JW- .l . P~tiER S~LLT-'OOD: Tite other day this Govern~ent floated a bond issue in Ontario. The Government of Ontario floated a bond issue, I think on this ~arne day. The Government of Ontario floated their issue in the United States - the NeWfoundland Government floated its issue in Ontario. And we got better terms than the Government of Ontario got. And our issues sold promptly above the asking price, and is sellinp, today above the selling price.

That is a proud statement for a Newfoundlander to be able to make - a proud statement - for a bankrupt and an insolvent r~vernment that is in a financial mess. I did not appreciate tihat the gentle~an said about the assets at Bell Island.

The statement made by this f.overnrnent was, that the assets at Bell Island would be sold to the highest bidder, and that they would be ~iven to the people of Bell Island, all of them. \-I ell, they were sold, they were sold to the highest bidder, and every dollar was given to the ~eople of Bell Island - $1,200,000 - was passed over to the people of Bell Island, every dollar we got. We did what we $aid we would do.

As for the effect of the iron ore discoveries and develop- ments in Labrador upon Bell Island - may I say that had there not been a single ton~. of iron ore ever discovered on Bell Island - in Labrador, what happened in Bell Island would have happened. ~~at happened in Labrador had nothing in this wide world to do with Bell Island, they both produce iron ore admittedly, that is all they had in common. Anyone who knows anything, knows that. Now -in a few brief words on several matters that are in the gracious Speech from the Throne.

DREE - \~e have been told by Newfoundlanders in l\e~.o;found- land, ·and ' Newfoundlanders in Ottawa- it is all a farce, it is false, it is empty, there is nothing to it. It is a farce. There is no DREf. - There is no DREE plan. Well, we will see. The gracious Speech says that in the present session, details will be laid before - you will be given mucl1 detailed information on this ~program in your present session.

At long last the Government of Canada are embarked, not are going to embark - are embarked, upon a large program of employing the strength and wealth of the nation . to help the less developed Provinces to rise to a level close to the Canadian average.

And my colleague, the ~anister of Community and Social Developoent and his official, in his department, have worked manfully, in the clnscst possible collaboration with corresponding officials in the Department of ~er.ional Economic Expansion at \ Ottawa - to uevise a great DREF. plan. ;..:ow I will say frankly here today, that this DREE plan, which will cover a tnt.1l period of fifteen years, will take

February l~th. 1970 JW - 2 months yet to cor.1plete - June, July, August - before that great plan ls completely devised. · But if we wait until June, or July or Au~ust, for that ~reat plan to be drawn up, approved and siy,ned, and made into a contract between the two Governments - if we wait for that to hap11en, this year will be lost. You cannot draw up a sc~eme in June, July or August, and expect it to do very much in the same year. And so. as not to lose a yea~ another DREE plan has been drawn \ll) and completed - but that is a t'lan for just one year.

And that plan is due to come into effect on the first of April, or very quickly. very soon after the first of April. It is dra~'I\ U!l - it to7as dravn up by my bon. collea~ues 1 officials that were ~rith him, wi.th the Ninister of r..egional f.conorni.c Expansion. at Ottawa, and his officials. 1he two ~linisters and the two sets of officials, working for the best part of a year, dratlinR it up, to come into effect soon after the first of April.

It came to the Government of ~ewfoundland. that is to say, the Cabinet, wh!!re we analyze<! it and discussed it tl_10rou~hly for many days wfiere we amended it, tvhere indeed we said would not accept it. He would not, because · we could not accept it - in the form in which it re:~ched us. It had to he changed, and we proposed the chan~es, and we sent the program on to Ottawa, with our proposed chan~es. These had been accepted - it took a little time - it took two or three weeks to get acceptance of these improvements as we believed, that we suggested for the plan.

I do not know exactly when it will be signed, whether it will be signed this month, next month - this month we think. Anyway it is to come into effect in the new financial year - the new financial year, as everybody knows, begins, both at Ottawa and St. John's on April 1st. and expires Hat'ch 31st. of the following year. That i.s our financial year.

The DREE pro~ram that will come into effect for one year, to get the program off the ground, to get it into action, to get it into motion - to get money spent - to get things done a in this Province this year, this present year. had to be plan~ .• of shorter a~d quicker duration than the great twelve or fifteen year pla~. I reme~ber in this very Chamber here in 1964, talking lonR hours. I do not know how many days I spoke - the hon. gentleman who moved the motion today, the hon. member for Trinity . ~brth, was then the ~linister of Fisheries he spoke for long hours.

And many members of this House spoke - for days we spoke on the need for a salt codfish marketin~ board. And that salt codfish

. • February 18th. 1970 Tape li7 .m- 3 marketing board had arisen out of tile great - fisheries conference that I called, that lasted for three d~ys, in the Sir R obert Bond Auditorium downstairs, and \Jas carried on T.V. for those three days. l~e had the greatest Conference that Canada, not only Newfoundland, has ever known, ever seen - devoted exclusively to Fishery. It was out of that great Conference that this proposal took shape . for a salt codfish marketing board, fashioned fairly closely after the ~reat wheat board of Canada. And the House adopted it. it was given the Royal Assent. It became the law.

It is the law of Newfoundland today, awaiting only procla­ mation. We could not do it alone - it had to he done by the Parliament of Canada, and by the Legislature of this Province. We did it four years ago - we did it in 1964. Ottawa did it a week or two ago, and as the hon. gentleman said, "better late than never··. It could have been done, two, three, four, five years ago, but was not. But now, it is coming into effect. It was born in this Chamber, or better, it was born in the Sir Robert Bond auditorium downstairs, in this very building. tie are very rroud of it. He have a dee _r' satisfaction over it.

It is going to mean big things for our fishery~ Big thin~s indeed. One of the great things to happen to our Province since Confederation, is the development of iron ore in Labrador. And now, at the Iron Ore Company of Canada, they have another ~reat proposal to produce another ten million tons of iron ore a year, over and above what they are producin~ now. This will take approximately $150,000,000 of new capital. This will eMploy seven hundred additional men.

And the same people, well the people in the same country that would buy this iron ore from Labrador City, would buy also the iron ore from another part of Labrador, not very far remove~, and 1 am not speaking of the City of Wabush. Not very far removed. I doubt now, in my o~m mind - I hllve no doubt, that the C'.ovemment of Canada, will not proceed with this proposed taxation, de!'crihed in the l·:hite Paper., so far as it ;tpplies to mining in this Province.

To do so, as the gracious Speech says - to do so, it •.rould be· tra~:ic for Net<7foundland and J.a'brador, ~f any system of taxation t-rere to hnve the effect of hlockinp, a develonment, so devoutly desired, and so urrently nc~ded. I think ,.,e mny take it, your Honour, that this eXPansion of iron ore devclOTJI'Ient in · western Lahrador, will go forward to the ~reat advantap;e _of this Province • And I wanted to say .'l word ahout laousir.F• I had a lon~ conversation with the bon. ~lr. Andr<ls on the telephone the other day.

Yell, ~!onday in Ottawa I had another lony, conversation with him at a famous place, that it would not

February 18th. 1970 T.l!'e £•7, JlJ - 4 be proper for me to mention, where we had dinner, a number of us, a lar~e number of us had dinner Monday night - I had another long conversati.on with ·him. And I disc:ove.red to my delight, .that the hon, ~r. Andras is 11erhaps even keener than I am., and that is pretty keen - on the icfea of shell housing. · Mr. Speaker. may I say this? I do not care what Central Mortgage ;r.:. and "Housing Corporation say, or what anyone says, or any of my own colleagues say - or any of the officials in the Depa.rtment of Rousing in this Government . say.

Or anyone. 1 do not care ~'hat anyone sa•1s, I know, that there ,is in this Province, a supreme need for low cost housing, that is not being met by the Government of Canada, or the Government of NeYfoundland. ,.

FeDruary 18th., 1968, Tape no. 8 'tZW - 1 It has never been met and they will tell you, vell they are not going to put good Canadian dollars into housin~ that will be a slum in eight or ten years aftervards. They are not going to use public money to build what will in no time becooe slum housing. Therefore. they say, they will spend that money only on housing built to a standard that will meet their requirements, their minimum standards. The trouble with that is that it automatically rules out tens of thousands of families.

It rules ou~ thousands of young couples getting married, new family formations, to use that very ugly term we use in housing circles, n'ew family formations. The beginning of life on the earth. The beginning of a family, new family formations. There are thousands of young people getting married and finding it just as impossible to get a house to live ~n as to buy a DC-8 to fly in. They are both impossible. What is the difference? They are both impossible. They cannot get a DC-8 and they cannot get a~ouse. One is just as impossible as the other.

That is why this shell, when three of my colleagues in the Cabinet brought it up, we built a few shell houses. Now what about doing it on a real seale, a couple or three hundred houses this year, shell houses. What about trying it? I said, "what is a shell ?ouse? I never heard of it." They told me what a shell house was. I said, ''in God's name, lo.•hy do you liait until this year? Why not five years ago, ten years ago?" A shell house is a house - in Newfoundland, Mr. Speaker, in Newfoundland I suppose there have been tens of thousands of shell houses built, but not by any qovernment.

I have known in the outports of Newfoundland; I have known untold hundreds of cases of a man, a family man,. who builds a shack, a tar paper shack, one room, two rooms. He goes to live in it. Next year he builds another room on it and the year afte~ anoth~r and another and in five, eight or ten years, he has a beautiful home, but be lived in it all the time he was doing it and not paying rent. That is a · shell bouse. Is nat~that a shell house? Is that a proper name for that house? Somebody know~. Is that a shell house? SOME l!ON. MD!BER: No. PRDfiER SY.ALLWOOD: .,. - 1 think it.is. It is a shell house.

It is a shell house, a very p~i~tive one, very crude, but that is the way tens of thousands of

February 18th., 1968 Tape no. 8 MW- 2 Newfoundland families have got their homes and thousands have done it before they even got married. They built the nest and then got the bird for the nest. Now why cannot that be done on an official scale? Build the house so that outside it looks like a nice resoect~ble house up to standard. Inside it may only be a shell. There may be only one partition dividing it into two rooms.

TI1ere may be a second partition making a total of three rooms, but the basic services, plumbing and electrical wiring must, of course, be up to a certain standard so .the place will not burn down, so the place will not become a wreck. Once that is done, then let the family pay a $100 or $200: down, and have a mortgage for the rest_and pay out the house as they build it up and get paid for building it up. We are going to do· that thi.s year. t~e are goin(t to do it with Mr. Andras' blessing.

I am not going to say how many we will build or how ·much money, but we are going to make a very earnest effort in Newfoundland this year l:-i.t~ shell housin!' ant we are going to make a very earnest effort this year on condominium housing, which is a good thing, an excellent thing. Co-operative housing, condominium housing built on the basis of the co-operative principle and thirdly we are going to do this and in this I demand the ardent support of the Leader of the Opposition, the present Leader of the Opposition. I demand his ardent support, and I defy him to refuse it.

He has got to give his support to this, because I have heard him advocate it in this House more than once in past years and that is to use public money to buy houses that alreac!y·'exist ·. That is only part of the answer. It is an answer. It is not "the" answer. It is an answer. It is one of a number of answers to meet this dire problem of housing in this Province. The house is not much of a House, but buy it at a fair price, at a reasonable . price and then fix it up. Now it stili will not be the kind of house that they are buildin~ today, these $22,000, $24,000 houses • .

It will not be like F.lizabeth Towers. lt will not be intended for the kind of people that would live, th~t could afford to live in Elizabeth Towers. These three, Mr. Speaker, we propose in the current year as soon as we can get the election off. I forgot. 1 sho~d not have mentioned it. 1 was trying

February 18th., 1968 ~.,Tape no. 8 MV- 3 to keep that a secret about the election. Just forget that I ~ntioned an election. Just forget it. Will the hon. gentlemen try hard to forget that I mentioned an election. There will be an election not later than December month next year, not later, 1971. Mr. Speaker, the Speech says that it is going to be a better year than·last year. I estimate that in the construction at Stephenville. No, before I go on to that, let me say one other word about Argentia. I do not know how many bon. members of this House have ever been unemployed. I may be the only one.

I have been unemployed without a dollar, without half a dollar, without a quarter, without two nickels. I have been unemployed. 1 have been penniless and hungry. I know what it is to be unemployed,_ and I do not think that it is fair play to use the unemployed for any dirty purpose. I do not think it is fair play. The ~erican government righly or wrongly, I ·think rightly are closing down bases in dozens and scores around the world. Cod grant that it be even quicker and that they will close down more of them and that they all close down. God grant it. That is what I think. Others may disagree.

I think it is a good thin~ that they are closing down bases all around the world. I deeply regret that they are closing the one at Argentia. 1 regretted it, when they closed down Fort Pepperrell with 1100 Newfoundland civilians working down there. I regretted it that they closed down the great base at Stephenville with 1300 Newfoundland civilians working there. I regretted it, when they phased down the great base in Goose airport and when they phased · down Argentia and now again are phasing it ·do~r.1n still more to death .'s door.

I deeply regret it, but I am not stupid, and the people of Argentia and Placentia and Freshwater and Jersey Side and Point Verde _and Dunville and that whole area are not stupid. They know that bases around the world are being closed out all together or phased down to ~ere skeletons. Thev know that. At this moment, if you ask me, will Goose ail'port go? I can only say to you, !-fr. Speaker, that 1 have discussed it and I tried eunnir.~ly, openly, subtly. every way I knew how to sneak the information out and all I can pet is that there is no decision. I do not bear any suggestion.

I do not hear any hint. but what will Congress do?

·\. February 18th., 1968 Tape no. 8 !-!W- 4 Who knows what Congress will do with regard to Goose airport? You will not know until the last minute and up to the last minute there will be a struggle going on in Washington between the civilians and the A~ed Forces. The Armed Forces would not close down one base in the,tomrld; not one. They would keep them all~. going and they would take the entire United States budget to keep them going, if they had their way. But the military do not have their way thanks be to God.

The civilians, the gover~ent, the president, th~ secretary of the treasury and the cabinet decide, not the military people and they made their decision on Argentia. NoW here is where the trouble comes in. I am going to say more than I ought to say, but I am going to say it. The A~ericans are not pulling out of Argentia. They are not closing the base down as they did in Pepperrell and Stephenville. There they pulled out, they passed the property over to the Canadian Government who passed it over to the Newfoundland Government. In Argentia they are not pulling out.

They are not passing anything over, passin~ over title to any buildings to the Government of Canada· They are holding on to the title and they are saying to the Canadian Government that you can take building no.l or building no. 3, buildins no. 7, building no. 9 and you can take building no, whatever the numbers are. You can take these buildings and you can use them, but we are holding on to them. The title remains with us. We are not giving' them up. We are not passing them back to you. We are saying to you that you can take them and make use of them, but we want them the minute we want them.

If we give three months notice or some short notice, then you must hand them back to us. Now I ask you, :tA.r. Speaker. Hould the Canadian Government be so stupid as to except the buildinp.s at Argentia on that basis and spend money on it, maintain it, keep it heated, keep_ it in condition and put anything in it and carry on an activity there. Would they do that? No, they would not. If ~hey would and they asked us to take it over. Uould we take it over? No, we would nat and if we were foolish enour.h to take it over, could we get anybody to go into i~ and use it as the home of an industry? ~o. of course not.

No one would be that stupid. So before we can do anythin~ in Argentia

PRE'fiER S~tALV.J'OOD: Before we can do anythi~~ in Ar~entia, the Canadian Government put any Federal activity in it, the Newfoundland Government put any Provincial Government activity in it, the Nevfoundland r~vernment get any industry to move into it, before any of that can happen there must be an agreement 'with the United States Government between the United States Government and the Canadian Government there must be an agreement, giving tenure, giving if not title a long lease.

For instance they might say "we eannot ~ive up the title to it, we will remain the owners but you take it until, say, a world war breaks out", well if a world war breaks out iotr. Speaker who is going to argue? They ·can take your house, they take anythin~, they take this building, they will take anything if there is a war. And certainly if there is a base and there are buildings there no matter what the two Governments may be doing in the buildin~, what an industry might be doing \ there the American Government would take it and understandably so. But short \. of a war let us have these buildin~s.

I say that publicly, it is a plea let the Canadian Government have those buildings on some bases of enduring ~ of lengthy lease so that the Canadaian r~vernment can give then to us and we wfll find use. Now will we find use? let me su~~est one or t~~ examples; Today I asked mv colleague in charge of our aircraft to .provide an aircraft to send a man up to Ar~entia, and a couple of hi~h rankinq civil servants went with him. I contacted the United States Consul General and cleared it '•ith hil!l.

Re then cleared it with the ~~litary r~mrnand at Ar~entia and presumably they landed there, and presumably I have not had a report back, they looked at what buildings are there. Now su,pose thiR industrialist found a building or buildin!!:S that mi~ht be ~uitahle. Hould he ~o and start an industry there? Everything else is O.

K., the only thin~ left i~ the buil~ing, would he go there in those buildin~s? ~o he 1.rill not .• and Arp.entil'\ will loose that industry and the peonle t~ere will loose that em~loyment all unless that industrialist can get a building or huildin~s for say eight years, ten year, tlo~elve years, fifteen years. Re is not going to invest any real noney in' there on any other basis. It is a nice little industry if we can ~et it. Even if the Americans say "take it and r.od bless you, here is the l,uildin~ and you can have it until the crack of Doom", even then we ~ay not get that industry.

Industries are not that easy to ~et, not in N~Tfoundland they are not. There is no line up. In Ontario the Government c:an say to the line "you stop t'lat pushing or '''e ~.-ill have you removed from the line, nol.r vou take your turn and do not ~o pushing,'

you are number seventy-nine on the list we will ~et arotind to you after auhile." The line-up of industries t"antint:! to establish in Ontario does not exist here· · in Ne~foundland. There is no line-up, we h~ve no shelf projects, we have no industries up our sleeves, t·re have no economic enterprises to employ tren that . we are just ~1aiting for sol'!eone to come, someone that needs it, here is your industry for you, it is not that simple. tole may not ~t this industry at all. Ve certainly ~dll not get it, we will not ~et it Mr.

Speaker, we will not get it for Ar~entia or anywhere else unless t~e building or buildings needed can be had on a ~easonable business like ~asis. I hope my words, I hope mv words are received in the ri~ht soirit, I hope they are thoroughly understood, I hope I can agreement ~nth them, and I hone they will be conveyed to the right quarter, and I am sure they "<o>ill. \ Now Mr. Speaker, we may hope for a ~ood session of hard constructive \ work for Newfoundland. There is goin~ to be a lot of it.

The Rouse is ~oin~ to be very busy and I sug~est that in the interest of getting thing~ done we work a few hours more a t;reek than we were ah;rays doin~t in the past. Our work day in this House is three o'clock U? to six, three hours a day, that is in the PDuse, three hours a day five days a week, fifteen hours a week. I am going to propose to the House that we have a reform, and that for say four days a week we meet at night as well.

So that would be five days at three hours, fifteen house, and four niv,hts at three hours a ni~ht, that is twelve hours. ~elve and fifteen is twenty-seven hours a week, and which is an hour and a half less than they work in the House of Commons at Ottaua.

It is true that in the House of Commons at Ottawa the se~sional indemnity is hi~her than ours, it is true that their eXPense allowance is higher than ours in this Chamber, but it is also in the Parliament of our Nation in the House of Commons at Ottawa they work somethin~ between ei~ht and ten months a year, and here we vork sonethin~ like eight or ten or twelve weeks a year. We work in this House for every month they t.rork in the House of Cotr".Inons. So we do not perhaps earn the money that our Parliamentarians earn at Ottawa, but I do sa~~est that we would nQt be over worked if we held four ni~ht sessions.

I am ~oin~ to suggest that we be~in that next Monday. I am ~oin~ to su~gest that before we rise today that we adjourn until ~fonday to ~ive the Opposition ample opportunity · •. · the official Oprosition and others the opportunity to read t:1e Speech from the Throne and see if they can cudgel their minds and thoughts and let us have it. let us have it over here. We can take all that they can ~ive us. We can take all th~t they can ~ive us and after they have Piven us all they can ~ive -

february 18, 1970, Tape 9, P~~e 3 a~b us three minutes aften•ards .... SmrE HON. ~MBER: · - We Hill dish it hack to them PREMIER S}IALLl\OOD: !-!o 1-1e will not even bother to dish it back. It is glorious to have the strength of the ~iant, ~ut tyrannous to use it like a giant, and we ~~11 not use the ~trenp,th, the undoubted and undoubtable strength on this side of the House, this terror stricken band of slaves,this sinking ship, this sinkin~ tub, and the han. r,entleroan nods, this sin~ing tub that he fought so desperately to st.av aboard. That he left tJith the only sinkin~ "~as his heart.

His heart sank ~rhen he left it, and hP fought and scrabed and scra~-rbed - that lovely Uewfounclland ~-·ord, he scratched and he scrawbed \ to ,-.hold on to his job in this sinking tub and 1-!r. Speaker ,we will not bother - \ look ~-·e may be provoked hut, I am personally, and 1 am the one most likely to be provoked, but I am one you cannot provoke. LAUGIITER: PREMIER S'"!ALT.HOIJD: I have, I have amazin~ patience. It took me the last twenty years to learn it, I am the most patient person, look when all around (what is it Kipling said?) RON.

E.M.ROBERIS: If you can keep your head ~-!hen all around you are losing theirs PRDfiER SHALLto100D: Yes, well I have kept my head ·, here it is still on my shoulders and I may be provoked, but I am not going to r,ive way to it. I am going to concentrate in this session upon get tinF; things done for NetJfoundland. We are going to have a better year than the last t,,.o or three. I 'to.'Ould say that we will have a total of between fifteen thousand ~nd seventeen . thousand new _jobs this year.

This year, not some undefined indefinite future, in this year we ~-rill have somethin~ bett-'een fifteen thousand and seventeen thousand new jobs that do not exist today at Stephenville and Come by Chance and Churchill Falls and Lake Melville and in a great road pro~ram, and in the DREE program, a total of f-rom fifteen to seventeen thousand ne1.1 jobs. NotJ our _1ob here in this House is to get ready for that. To let nothing stand in the way of it, to concentrate on giving the legislation passed here, gettin~ the laws b~ought in, gettin~ them debated, ~etting them exanincd, p.ettin~ them considered.

Retting them amended and then passing them into law. And paving the way for jobs, pavin~ the way for men to ~et work whfch i~ the ~reatest need we have.

February 18, 1970, Tape 9, Page 4 -- apb Mr. Speaker, with these few remarks, these few remarks I commend the votion to the su~port of the House that a committee b~ appointed to draft an address in reply to the gracious Speech from the Throne. APPLAUSE: MR. SPEAKER: \ It is moved that a committee be appointed to draft an address .• \ in reply to the gracious Speech from the Throne. Is the House ready for the \ question? Those in favour "Aye", Contrary ''Nay", Carried.

In accordance with the motion that was just carried I appoint the mover and the seconder and the hon. member for Gander to be the three members of the committee to draft the address in reply. PREMIER SHALUIOOD: Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Leader of the Opposition that the .profound sympathy of this Rouse be forwardedto the surviving relatives and family of the lat~ bon. Francis Pike, the last remaining member ot the Upper House. The hon. Frank Pike of Port aux Basques was I think truly on~ of the most amazing men I have ever known. I remember well when he was appointed to the Upper House.

I reme~ber that Sir Richard Squires the Prime lH.nister of Newfoundland at that time discus.sed the matter with me, 1 represented him in Corner Brook. P.e was between two minds, Doctor Frank Fisher and Frank ·Pike at Port aux Basques.

They were both ardent Liberals, ardent Liberals indeed and great friends and supporters of Sir Richard Squires. ~·:e talked it over and I said "well Sir Richard of course, as bet'k•een the two men there is really nn cl_toice, thev are t•.m excellent Ne1-.•foundlanders, excellent citizens but, I ~uppose in a~pointing men to the Upper House you have to ta~e a number of things into account. In those days you had to be very careful that your nublic bodies ~·rere denominationally t._.ell· balanced.

This House, the Cabinet, the civil service, the Upper P.ouse, all public l-C'dies had to be oretty carefully balanced and the only ~ay to stop bad sectarian feeling, bad bigotry if you could stop it, the onlv t~ay to miti~ate it an}"-ray t-•as to give every denomination its proper share and no more.

You had that to take into account, the occupational side of. life to take into account, you had the gP.ography to take into account and I said "look Str 'Richnrd, vou are the ~ini~C:ter, you are the member. for the ~umber District, now Frank Pil:e is in another district and be repres .ent the South west corner of this 1 sland of Ne~-1foundland and if you YeTe to follm·• my ad,ice you 1.:-ould appoint Fran!< T'ike." I did not think he

.. .. February 18, 1970, Tape 9, Page 5 -- apb Upper House and he became the hen. Frank Pike and lived until the other day, the last remaining man that ever t,J<!s a member of the Upper House. t.'hen I tias aetting out my last volumes of the Book of Newfoundland I asked him to write a piece which he did, and I ~uess it was the last thin~ he wrote. He was an c:omething amazing man Mr. Speaker, at eighty-four or eighty-five he looked,/like another dear friend of mine who retired the other day. I think he retired the end of January.

Mr. ~addigan came up to me to my office the other dav and told me that he was seventy-eight or seventy-nine years of age. I nll but - of course it was very encouraging I must adr.tit, , it was very encoura~ing. I tms not sorry to hear it, I was very encouraged bv it. Jack ~~ddir,an seventy-eight and \ Frank Pike eighty-four or eighty-five years of age, you would look at them and you would say that ~e t•as a man who must be gettin~ close to seventy,.anc{ h~ . was eighty-four or ei~hty-five.

A mind like a steel tra~, strong voice, no quaver in it_, deaf, very deaf, hut a mind like a rapier, a credit to Newfoundland and his loss is one that t·rill never - of course never now can you have another member of the Upper House. He is a great los~ to the le~islature of this Province. The last member of the Upper House and I know that my hen. friend the Leader of the Opposition will, I do not know if he knew Frank Pike or not anyway I knotl that he will join Pith me in moving this expression of sympathy of the House to the family of the hon. Frank Pike. MR. MURPHY: (Leader of the Op~osition): Mr.

Speaker, I would just like to add one word, I knew Mr. Pike very well by reputation and I met him on a couple of occasions, but I knew members of his family very well indeed, and I am su~e that his loss as one of the outstandin~ men of our Province will be great, and I am sure that his relatives will be notified of the deep, deep sympathy we extend to them. ·. MR. SPEAKER: l-fay I take it then that< this House carries this resolution proposed by the hon. the Premier and seconded by the Leader of the Opposition as.having been carried unanimously. RON. L.R.CURTIS: ~fr.

Speaker, I give notice thllt I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill, entitled a Bill, "An Act Further To Amend The Fire Prevention Act 1954.", I also give notice that! will ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled "An Act Rcsrecting The Private Investigaters Of Security Guards.'' I also ~ive notice that I ~ill ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill, "An Act To Amend The 'Prisons Act Of 1969."

Fenruarr 18, 1970, Tape 9, Page 6 -- apb RON. J.R.Ca~KER: Mr. Speaker, I ~ive notice that on tomorrow I will ask leave of this House to introduce a Bill, "An Act Further To Amend The Expropriation Act Of 1964." BON. F .W.ROI-.'E: ~r. Speaker, I give notice that I will on tomo~Tnu aSkleave to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill, "An Act Further To Amend The Department Of Education Act 1968." I give further notice that I will on tomorrow ask leace to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill, "

An Act Furi:her To Amend T11.e \ Memorial University Act." I give further notice that I ~-ill on tomorrot¥ ask I leave to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill, "An Act Further To Amend The Education Teacher's Pensions Act 1962." I give further notice that I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill, "An Act Further To Amend The Public Libraries Act." I ~ive further notice ·that I will bn tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill, "An Act To Amend The Education Teacher Training Act 1968." I give further notice that I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill "An Act To Amend The Teacher's Loan Act 1957." RON.

R.STARKES: Mr~ Speaker, I give notice that I ~11 on tomorrow ask leave ' to introduce a Bill entitled a Bill, "An Act Further To Amend The Highl·TaY Traffic Act 1962." RON. S.NEARY: Mr. Speaker, I give notice that I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled "An Act Furt:1er To Amend The Social Assistance Act 1962. ", and I give further notice that I will on tomorrot-t ask leace to introduce a Bill entitled "An Act Further To Amend The Welfare Children Act." HON • .J .A. NOLA.~: Mr.

Speaker, I give notice that t ~.Jill on tomorrow ask leave. to introduce a Bill "An Act To Provide For The .Appointment Of a Parliamentary Commissio~er To Investi~ate Administrative Deci~ions And Acts Of Officials Of The Government Of The Province And It's A~encies And To Define The Parliamentary Commissioners Power~. Duties And Functions." and further 1 ~ive notice that I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill "An Act Further To Amend The Depar~ment Of Supply Act 1966 - 67." RON, L.R.CURTIS: ~!r.

S!leaker, I move that the Hou~e at its rising do adjourn-- · until tomorrow ~onday the 23rd.1nstant at 3:00 p.m. and the House do now adjourn. On motion the Hous at its rising do adjourn.