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May 5, 2010

39th Parliament, 2nd Session

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L027 - Wed 5 May 2010 / Mer 5 mai 2010

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO

ASSEMBLÉE LÉGISLATIVE DE L’ONTARIO

Wednesday 5 May 2010 Mercredi 5 mai 2010

ORDERS OF THE DAY

LOWERING ENERGY COSTS

FOR NORTHERN ONTARIANS ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 SUR LA RÉDUCTION

DES COÛTS D’ÉNERGIE

POUR LES ONTARIENS DU NORD

PENSION BENEFITS

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR LES RÉGIMES DE RETRAITE

INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS

ORAL QUESTIONS

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS

TAXATION

TAXATION

TAXATION

INJURED WORKERS

PRESCRIPTION DRUGS

MEMBERS’ PRIVILEGES

HOMELESSNESS

FULL-DAY KINDERGARTEN

ABATTOIRS

PUBLIC TRANSIT

EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS

ENERGY RATES

HOSPITAL FUNDING

TAXATION

TOBACCO CONTROL

USE OF QUESTION PERIOD

VISITORS

NOTICE OF DISSATISFACTION

DEFERRED VOTES

PENSION BENEFITS

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR LES RÉGIMES DE RETRAITE

INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS

MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

CANADA 55+ GAMES

ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

LIBERATION OF THE NETHERLANDS

CANADIAN HEARING SOCIETY

CANADIAN PARAPLEGIC ASSOCIATION ONTARIO

CHILDREN’S MENTAL HEALTH WEEK

SINGING COMPETITION

CANADIAN HEARING SOCIETY

CANADA-ISRAEL RELATIONS

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

MEMBERS’ INTEGRITY

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR L’INTÉGRITÉ DES DÉPUTÉS

EDUCATION AMENDMENT ACT

(PUPILS WITH DIABETES), 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT

LA LOI DE L’ÉDUCATION

(ÉLÈVES DIABÉTIQUES)

ALZHEIMER ADVISORY

COUNCIL ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 CRÉANT

LE CONSEIL CONSULTATIF

DE LA MALADIE D’ALZHEIMER

ESCAPING DOMESTIC

VIOLENCE ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 SUR LA FUITE

FACE À LA VIOLENCE FAMILIALE

RETIREMENT SAVINGS PLANS

FOR EMPLOYEES AND SELF-

EMPLOYED PERSONS ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 SUR LES RÉGIMES

D’ÉPARGNE-RETRAITE DES EMPLOYÉS

ET DES TRAVAILLEURS INDÉPENDANTS

EDUCATION AMENDMENT ACT

(ORGAN DONATION EDUCATION), 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT

LA

LOI SUR L’ÉDUCATION

(ÉDUCATION SUR LE DON D’ORGANES)

BREAST CANCER

SCREENING ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 SUR LE DÉPISTAGE

DU CANCER DU SEIN

MOTIONS

PRIVATE MEMBERS’ PUBLIC BUSINESS

ADJOURNMENT DEBATE

ROBERT MITCHELL

STATEMENTS BY THE MINISTRY

AND RESPONSES

POVERTY /

PAUVRETÉ

EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WEEK

POVERTY

EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WEEK

EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS WEEK

POVERTY

PETITIONS

ONTARIO PHARMACISTS

TAXATION

HOSPITAL FUNDING

CLIMATE CHANGE

TAXATION

SCHOOL CLOSURES

FULL-DAY KINDERGARTEN

ONTARIO PHARMACISTS

TAXATION

ONTARIO PHARMACISTS

MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES

TAXATION

CHANGEMENT DE CLIMAT

CHILD CARE

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDER OF BUSINESS

MEMBERS’ INTEGRITY

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR L’INTÉGRITÉ DES DÉPUTÉS

MEMBERS’ INTEGRITY

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR L’INTÉGRITÉ DES DÉPUTÉS

POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION

STATUTE LAW

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT DES LOIS

EN CE QUI CONCERNE

L’ENSEIGNEMENT POSTSECONDAIRE

The House met at 0900.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Good morning. Please remain standing for the Lord’s Prayer, followed by the Islamic prayer.

Prayers.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

LOWERING ENERGY COSTS

FOR NORTHERN ONTARIANS ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 SUR LA RÉDUCTION

DES COÛTS D’ÉNERGIE

POUR LES ONTARIENS DU NORD

Resuming the debate adjourned on May 4, 2010, on the motion for second reading of Bill 44,

An Act to implement the Northern Ontario energy credit / Projet de loi 44, Loi mettant en œuvre le crédit pour les coûts d’énergie dans le Nord de l’Ontario.

Mr. Michael A. Brown: I’m delighted to be able to continue my remarks from yesterday afternoon with regard to the northern Ontario energy credit. Just to refresh members’ memories, this is

an act that lowers energy costs for northern Ontarians and would amend the Taxation Act, 2007, to provide a northern Ontario energy credit for 2010 and subsequent taxation years for eligible individuals who live in northern Ontario.

I think that’s the key. My colleagues the members of the northern Liberal caucus met with the Minister of Finance. We were very concerned that the budget reflect the reality of northern Ontario and that it is a very large land mass. My riding alone has 2,234 kilometres of provincial highways. We have a number of very small communities. I represent 37 municipalities. We have 22 First Nations. That is just the 86,000 square kilometres of Algoma–Manitoulin, which, I might add, is larger than all of southern Ontario. We have longer winters; we have colder winters; we have shorter days.

That means that the cost of heating oil, the cost of electricity, the cost of perhaps natural gas—well, obviously natural gas—or propane for some, is more expensive, because the season when we need these things is longer. Our days are shorter, as I said.

What this tax credit is going to do: It is going to ensure that northerners with incomes of $45,000 or less per household—they have to own or rent their principal residence in northern Ontario—would receive a tax credit of $200. It would phase out as we got to $65,000, but it would look after those low- and middle-income families that do have challenges in meeting their energy bills. It would also, for single people, provide for a tax credit of $130 that would phase in, I believe, up to $35,000 and then gradually phase out at $48,000. That would be of great assistance to my constituents.

Will it solve all the problems? No, but it does recognize, as other programs do, that in northern Ontario, life is different. We have different challenges: The cost of energy, the cost of living on a whole spectrum of items is more expensive. That is why, for example, we provide licence plates for half the price that you would pay in most of southern Ontario. That helps a little bit with your gas. There are many issues.

If I go to Wawa or Hornepayne or Manitouwadge, I hear about gas prices even more than I do along the north shore of Lake Huron, and that’s for a reason. The prices can be as much as 10 or 11 cents more per litre in those places than you would find even in a place like Espanola. It is incumbent upon the government of Ontario and, I think, the members of the Legislature to recognize that on the energy file, northerners have significant challenges. This is one more way the government has of addressing that.

My colleague from Thunder Bay–Atikokan mentioned the other day, “Well, what does $200 buy?” If you were talking about, for example, HST, it would buy $2,500 of room, I would call it. You could buy $2,500 before you would exhaust the HST amount of money. If you combine that with all the other programs we have to both mitigate and aid the transition to the HST, you would find that that is a remarkably good deal for northern Ontarians. I want to say to my constituents that those folks in Elliot Lake, Manitoulin Island, and Espanola, where we have substantial numbers of retirees, will find this particularly important in meeting their challenges in the electricity field.

With that, I just want to again commend this to members. This does not solve every problem there is in the world, but it does recognize the unique situation of northern Ontario. It does recognize that the government understands that difference. I would hope that all members of the Legislature will stand and vote for this important proposal.

I would also tell members that on the energy file, large industrial users of electricity will receive a 25% reduction in the cost of their electricity, to make our mills, our refineries and our smelters more competitive. That is an expensive program. It will cost Ontario $150 million a year, but it makes us more competitive. It’s important in the forestry industry, which is a major employer in my constituency. I just wanted to bring that to the attention of members. So on the electricity file, for large industrial users, this is an important feature of the 2010 budget.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Questions and comments?

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: I listened closely to my colleague from Algoma–Manitoulin—God’s country, as I call it, because it is a lovely place. On a recent fishing trip, though, I noticed the devastation that has taken place because of unemployment in our north country. It was very sad, and I think it is incumbent upon this Legislature and this government to assist the north in all regards, and energy is one of the prices they pay that is considerably higher, in many cases, than in the south.

I’m wholly supportive of this bill. The only proviso I have: I believe it’s somewhat chintzy, in view of the cost of electricity—which we know, due to the efforts of this government, is going to increase drastically along with the HST. Are the grants that are set out in this bill sufficient to cover those costs? I have my doubts. I assume that this bill will be going to committee, and I’m sure we can explore at that time what the actual costs of energy in the north will be, what the increases will be, and then we can determine particularly whether or not the subsidies contained in this bill will be adequate to alleviate the problems in God’s country.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Questions and comments?

Mr. Pat Hoy: I’m pleased to rise and make a few comments on the very salient points that the member from Algoma–Manitoulin made in regard to Bill 44, the northern Ontario energy bill. I know that Mr. Brown has been a member of this Legislature for many, many years and ranks very high on the seniority list in this place; he knows of what he speaks when he talks about the north.

He mentioned places like Wawa, Manitouwadge and other points of interest in the north, and how important this particular bill is to those persons in that community. I’ve had the opportunity to travel to the north on many occasions on the finance committee and always find it a fascinating geographic area of Ontario to visit. The expanse of the north is awesome, and the communities are beautiful. They offer a lot to Ontario.

With this bill, we are proposing a new permanent northern Ontario energy credit that would help eligible low-income northern residents with their energy costs. Energy costs are an issue in the north, and we’re all keenly aware of that. Now we have this Bill 44, that addresses those concerns. Northern residents aged 18 or older who pay rent or property taxes for their principal residence would be eligible for an annual credit. A single person would be eligible for a credit of up to $130, while a family would be eligible for up to $200, including single parents.

There are many more items within this bill that are important, and points that could be made, but it’s important to note that this will help places like Algoma, Cochrane, Kenora, Manitoulin, Nipissing, Parry Sound, Rainy River, Sudbury and many, many others across the north.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Questions and comments?

Mr. Steve Clark: I’m pleased to provide some comments in response to the address by the member from Algoma–Manitoulin. It was interesting: One of his comments that certainly resonated with me was the fact that he admitted that this bill doesn’t solve all the problems of the world. Certainly, there are a number of problems when it comes to energy pricing in this province. I heard that loud and clear during my by-election.

As well, it was amazing to read in the paper today—and I’m glad that the Minister of Revenue is here, because one of the things that this bill doesn’t solve is the problem that hit this province last weekend but will hit it with its full force on July 1. That’s the HST. It was interesting this morning to hear the Premier, in response to some research that the New Democratic Party did about the HST, admit that it is going to have an extra cost to Ontario families. I’m so glad that the Minister of Revenue is here. Perhaps maybe he’ll even make a few comments on this bill. Again, maybe he’s going to make an admission today about the fact that this tax is going to burden Ontario families.

I’m very concerned, because as the member for Welland talked about yesterday—he mentioned, what about people in his corner of the province? People in my corner of the province, in eastern Ontario, have been extremely hard hit by this recession. They are extremely concerned about their hydro bill. Many of them visit me and express concern about the hydro policies of this government. Our hydro rates have gone up 74% since the members opposite took office, and I think that’s of extreme concern for Ontarians.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Questions and comments?

Mr. Paul Miller: I’d just like to say that, from our research in our party, we have come up with the real figures. I do believe that the HST is going to not only eradicate but destroy this credit that they’re doing. The only time that this credit—if it was increased to a percentage where AbitibiBowater and the rest of the forestry industry would come back to Ontario and reopen the mills and paper mills that they’ve shut, then that would be a positive impact. But to give people a couple of bucks a month for their heating bill is hardly going to create more work. It’s hardly going to bring those big companies back.

So this bill falls woefully short of what we would have liked to have seen in it.

As pointed out by my colleague from the official opposition, the HST and all the other little things that are coming in are not only going to eat that up and destroy it within a year, but we have predicted that within the second year of the HST, the average family in Ontario will be paying up to $1,800 a year for HST and things. That would eliminate that big $1,000 that they’re going to give back over three instalments over the next—there will probably be one a month before the election of $300. I don’t think people will be fooled by that. I think the $1,000 probably won’t even cover haircuts, it’s so bad.

I’m assuming that the government will be coming forward with more savings. I hope that they’re going to come with more and add another bill, because this one certainly falls short of what we need.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): The member from Algoma–Manitoulin, you have up to two minutes to respond.

Mr. Michael A. Brown: I would like to thank the members from Cambridge, Leeds–Grenville, Chatham–Kent–Essex and Hamilton East–Stoney Creek for their comments.

I would remind them that this is about the northern energy credit, which is $200 per family for people who have a principal residence which they either own or rent in northern Ontario. A single person would be receiving $130 if he or she owns or rents a principal residence in northern Ontario. It is a help to our families. It is a help to the people of northern Ontario. I am assured, I think, of the support of all of the members in this House for such an important—

Mr. Jeff Leal: Oh, don’t count on that, Mike.

Mr. Michael A. Brown: Well, I think I heard a little argument on the other side for a while, but I think they settled in favour of voting for it. This is an important credit for the people of northern Ontario.

To the point of my friend from Hamilton East–Stoney Creek: He would know that the budget included $150 million for large industrial enterprises in northern Ontario. It would reduce the price of electricity for those industrial mills by 2 cents per kilowatt hour or by 25%, which would make those industrial places that much more competitive. That is pulp and paper mills, mines, refineries and smelters. That’s the core of our northern economy, and we look forward to seeing that that happens in northern Ontario. I’m sure that, on that basis, the members will also support the budget bill.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Further debate?

Mr. Steve Clark: I’m pleased to speak on this bill.

Again, to the member from Algoma–Manitoulin, who just spoke: This is a bill that we are going to support; however, when you talk about $130—$130? Come on.

Listen, I see energy bills in my constituency office every week, and I see the increase in energy costs we’re facing in this province. When you start working with constituents to try to resolve some of these issues and resolve some of the bills, sometimes it’s extremely frustrating with Hydro One. They just won’t give people an inch. In fact, sometimes I have a better time helping somebody deal with an energy retailer than I do with Hydro One. When we talk about $130, it’s a joke, quite frankly.

Speaking specifically to the north, I had a chance to make a couple of comments about this bill in response to other speakers, and I may want to reiterate some of my experiences at this time. As you know, Speaker, I talked yesterday about the fact that when I was 22, I was elected mayor of Brockville; it was 1982. As I said yesterday, I remember going to the Association of Municipalities of Ontario conference and having my council sit me down and make sure I knew the one rule I needed to know when I sat in those resolution sessions—in those days it was in the ballroom of the Royal York hotel, and there were lots and lots of delegates, including people from the city of Toronto.

The one thing my council always told me: When those northern road resolutions come up, when those resolutions come up for northern Ontario, you need to support those 100% because of the issues they have in the north. Obviously there were road issues—there were lots of issues. We needed to support their efforts, and when they asked for our support for funding, we needed to provide it to them. It was a wonderful indoctrination that I had into municipal politics. Later on—

Mr. Jeff Leal: You brought the Shell refinery to Brockville.

Mr. Steve Clark: Absolutely, the wonderful Shell refinery. The member from Peterborough knows that well.

The other issue: I got to tour the north, because I ended up being president of AMO in 1989. At the time, there was a bit of an AMO curse: The AMO president seemed to get defeated in the municipal election. So in 1988, the mayor of Geraldton at the time, Michael Power, was defeated, and I was thrust into that position, but I got to travel to the north. It was funny—I spoke to Bob Maddocks, the CAO of one of my townships, the township of Rideau Lakes, and he recalled the story when I toured the north for our northern Ontario municipal conference.

I was late, because it was in winter, and it was so cold that the landing gear wouldn’t drop on the plane, so I had to circle until the landing gear came down. The member for Algoma–Manitoulin talked earlier this morning about weather. Certainly I knew the challenges of weather in northern Ontario that day, when I had to circle and wait for the landing gear to come down.

This bill, as I said before, provides a $130 credit which, again, is a joke when you look at the pricing policies of this government in terms of where we are with our energy costs. The issue of smart meters, for example, has caused great concern about seniors. Earlier this week, I spoke about meeting a gentleman in Brockville named Ed Lypchuk, who wrote a wonderful letter to the editor of one of our local papers entitled, “Hydro pricing

schedule great for vampire lifestyle,” where he talked about the fact that he’ll have to become a senior vampire and do all of his business, and his laundry, by night, just like a vampire, because of this smart-meter and time-of-use pricing.

It was funny: He ended the editorial saying that he certainly wasn’t going to be a blood-sucking vampire like this government is with the HST, with time-of-use rates and with their increase in energy costs. He’s not going to be a blood-sucking vampire. He’ll be a gentle vampire, unlike this government when it comes to its tax-and-spend policies.

The fact that we are now a have-not province is shameful. We used to be the economic engine of this country, and now we’re the caboose. It’s shameful—shameful—that this government has these policies and has put them in place. I see constituents almost on a weekly basis with grave concerns about their energy bills, with grave concern about what’s in it for them. What is this government going to do to provide them relief? This bill provides $130. I understand that if you make $47,000, you get $10. I’d like to know the administration that’s in place behind this bill that creates a $10 cheque to somebody.

I’d love for somebody on the other side of the House to give me that costing. It’s ridiculous.

I’d love to be able to share my time with my good friend from Cambridge, if he’s inclined to share some time. He’s a little reluctant; he’s a little shy. I’m very pleased to make these comments on the bill. Thank you for your patience, Speaker. I appreciate it.

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: I’m somewhat reluctant to speak again, because I said kind words about my friend from Manitoulin and he forgot to thank me in his response, so I really was put out. But in any event, I’ll continue on, even though I carry that to my eternal shame.

In any event, we’re dealing with Bill 44. I think we have to put it in perspective. As I say, I am supporting this bill. What I am not supporting is its failure to really meet the needs of the north. In that regard, we have to look at the framework of what’s happening in the north, and whom could I quote better than the Toronto Star, a newspaper known for its quality of opinion?

Today they have a headline: “Tax Bite Bigger Than Expected.” They’re talking about the HST, which of course relates directly to energy costs, because we know that energy costs are going up by a minimum of 8%—possibly 10%—and the HST, at 13%, will be added—

Interjections.

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: There seems to be a conversation going on beside me, and it’s hard to hear myself think. In any event, I will continue on.

Interjection: Keep going.

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: Thank you.

As I was saying, I was praising my friend for speaking to this bill. I have to relate to the Toronto Star article, one of the few articles I’ve ever agreed with printed by the Toronto Star, I must admit. As I mentioned, its headline was “Tax Bite Bigger Than Expected,” which leads me to a point.

Interjections.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Order.

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: I seem to remember, over the last few months, that the HST was going to be revenue-neutral, which meant there was no increase or decrease. It was revenue-neutral. Now the headline is, “Tax Bite Bigger Than Expected.” Well, there wasn’t a tax bite to start with, because it was revenue-neutral, and somehow—I don’t understand the headline.

In any event, it would seem that the New Democratic Party spent a considerable amount of money requisitioning a study by experts who concluded, as I understand it, that the average family will pay an additional $792 annually. Again, I don’t understand the headline, because it talks about “bigger than expected” when it was revenue-neutral before, so it’s a great difficulty. The Toronto Star has basically accepted, I assume, the study by the NDP that it will result in $792 additional for an average family.

When we’re looking at Bill 44—I’m coming back to it, Speaker—we have to compare the increase in the HST with the credits, for instance, under the bill. Now, a single person would be eligible for a credit of $130. When looking at the pure energy costs, we know that the increase in energy costs—much of it due to the negligence of this government, those costs.

When we’re looking at those costs and we know they’re going to increase by a minimum of 8%, possibly more—that’s not including the HST, now; I’m just talking about it—it would seem that for a single person, they’re going to lose out, just on the energy costs—and that does not include the total that they’re going to have to pay for a single person’s share of the $792, which was for a family, of course. You would have to scale that back.

For a family, under this act, there is a credit which is totally inadequate, because you could have five children, you could have one child, but the amount would be the same. They would be eligible for up to—not guaranteed—$200. There are many conditions that you’re going to have to meet, and means tests as to your income, but they would be eligible for up to $200. Again, when you look at just the ramifications of the HST, according to the

article in the Toronto Star dated May 5, 2010, the additional cost per annum for a family will be $792 annually. That does not include any increases for energy, which this government has already said will be increased by a minimum of 8%. So there seems to be an imbalance.

Though I am supporting the bill, as I mentioned in the first instance, I do not think it is adequate. From what I saw in the north—we, in our area, as a result of the actions of this government, still have unemployment over 9%. That is substantial for a fast-growing region, the region of Waterloo. In the north it is much more serious, from what I saw. I saw buildings abandoned, homes that were totally abandoned and falling down because of disrepair. It reminded me, quite frankly, of a small-scale Detroit, because in Detroit I saw neighbourhoods that were really difficult. From what I saw—

Hon. Monique M. Smith: You’re insulting the north. Where were you?

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: I will not name—I was in the north; I wasn’t necessarily in your riding. But I was somewhat concerned at the state of repair of many of the homes that I saw in the area. I don’t go to the north often, so that’s why it was somewhat of a shock, because the last time I was there, some time ago on committees of this Legislature, it seemed to me that the north was prospering; they were doing well. People seemed relatively happy, and things were sort of okay.

On my latest trip, which took place a year ago, I noticed a substantial change in this area of the north that I was in, and I was quite frankly shocked, if I can use that word without elaborating on it. It just wasn’t what I had expected.

The thing that was as I expected was the fishing. The pickerel and walleye fishing in the north is as good as ever. We in the south, when we fish in the lakes in southern Ontario, think we have half-decent fishing, but in the north, I must admit, it was worth the 15-hour drive, because the fishing was excellent.

Mr. Jeff Leal: Lots of pickerel in Lake Nipissing. You must have been out in a lodge on this northern trip.

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: Well, we can talk about Lake Nipissing—which was my favourite fishing spot, until recently. Because walleye are still the best eating fish in the world, in my opinion. They are the best, as the Speaker knows, because he comes from walleye country. He is a fisherman of some repute, I understand.

In any event, I am supporting the bill, but with the proviso that it is not adequate to meet the needs of the north, which in many respects has been devastated by the loss of jobs and the increasing costs of living there, including energy. With that proviso, I will sit down.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Questions and comments?

Mr. John O’Toole: It’s always a pleasure to listen to the member from Cambridge, as well as the member for Leeds–Grenville. I know they stood strongly on our position on this bill, on how it’s really an unfair assessment of all of the people who are going to be attacked by the government’s poor policy on energy pricing, electricity specifically. It’s not just the HST component of our heating bill or the gas in our car; it’s the impact, broadly.

The NDP have done a wonderful job. I want to compliment them in terms of, once we’ve looked at this—the statisticians, not the politicians. The Minister of Revenue has always said that this is revenue-neutral. Now we know that the jig is up. It’s probably going to cost every single person in Ontario about an extra $1,000. Everything you buy, from Kleenexes right through to your car, is going to be taxed to the max. It’s the most selfish tax grab, in a time in the economy when you’re suffering.

I think of seniors mostly, whether they live in Thunder Bay, Timiskaming or my riding of Durham. They’re the ones I’m standing up for; those are the very ones. They are attacking the pharmacists now. They are raising energy prices. They’ve got the HST. You’ve got the health tax. They’re not telling you the whole story on the smart meter. On the smart meter, they’re going to blame you for not conserving. This is an all-out assault on people of modest means, and it’s unacceptable.

This particular bill deals with the north. How are they going to deal with the south, the east and the west, eastern Ontario? This is a government out of control on the spending side. We’re being taxed to death, and the services are falling by the wayside. It’s sad. We’re almost like Greece.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Questions and comments?

Mr. Paul Miller: This will be short; it’s a two-minute one. I’d just like to say that this bill once again falls short. Thanks for the compliment from the official opposition. Our research people did a wonderful job on this.

I’ve sat here and listened for weeks upon weeks of this government saying, “Oh, it’s going to be revenue-neutral. There will be no increase. You’re going to save money on your income tax.” I’ve heard them all say it; they’ve all said it. They even did standing ovations. Then, yesterday, the Premier really told the true story. His minimum, at $800 more—I think it’s going to be a lot higher than that, because some of the research we did nationally also—which included Ontario—is that actually it’s going to cost closer to $1,800 per family per year because of the HST, because of increased energy costs.

This government is not telling the whole story. This government doesn’t want to tell the whole story, because if the people knew, they would be outraged to find out that they’re going to pay a lot more than they used to. The member from Manitoulin kept talking about this hydro break for the companies, and all that. Why are they all leaving and going to Manitoba and Quebec? I’ll tell you why. They pay two thirds less in those provinces for hydro than they do in Ontario. If they’re not, why aren’t they coming back?

I know that a lot of towns in the north have shut down completely, and the biggest employer in some of the towns is the hospital. That tells me a lot. Young people are leaving the north every week to go down south looking for jobs.

So they’re painting a pretty good picture up there but, believe me, it’s not. Certainly in the next election, they’ll find out how bad a picture they’ve painted.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Questions and comments?

Mr. Wayne Arthurs: Speaker, thank you for the couple of minutes I have. First, I want to thank the member from Cambridge for his expression of support for the legislation. I think that reflects on a number of comments we’ve heard from those in opposition—that it’s their intention to support this legislation because it is good legislation for northern Ontario.

I particularly appreciated his fish stories in part, but I have to tell you that the real whopper of a fish story was the one the member for Durham was trying to tell, because this fish went from here, to here; it was a big HST whopper of a story he was trying to tell. I know I digress from the member from Cambridge’s comments, but I can’t help it.

The member for Hamilton East–Stoney Creek doesn’t even believe their own research. He took the member from Durham’s fish story that grew to this, and he made it grow like this.

The reality is the member from Cambridge spoke to it, as have other members in this place in the past few days. Northern Ontario has very special challenges and we, as government, have an obligation to meet those challenges to the best of our ability with the capacity available.

I know the member from Cambridge listened very carefully to the member from Algoma–Manitoulin; I know he listened to the member from Timiskaming–Cochrane; I know he listened to the member from Nipissing; I know he listened to the member from Sault Ste. Marie; I know he listened to the member from Thunder Bay–Atikokan; I know he listened to the Minister of Northern Development, Mines and Forestry. He had the opportunity to hear from those who are represented and he responded to their request to express his support for the bill. I’m looking forward to the vote and certainly his opportunity to support it.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Thank you. Questions and comments?

Mrs. Julia Munro: I would just like to use the time that I have to make sure that people understand. The first point about this bill is the fact that it was taken off the budget bill. It wasn’t part of the many schedules that were in the budget—because, obviously, it is essentially a budget item.

The other problem, I think, that people have in looking at this bill is the fact that there is a handout here in this bill, but many of the government speakers talk about the unique and, I would add, dire situations that are present in the north. So we have to look at how much of this is going to actually aid those communities in the north that so desperately need to find work, frankly—that need to get back to work.

One of the government speakers, I believe—although it may have just been someone else—made the comment that it would cost $50 million for a mill to restart. Then I put that in the context of giving people who have a means test between $100 and $200. It seems to me that this is much more the cost of an investment in public relations than it is assisting the economy desperately needed in this province.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): The member for Leeds–Grenville, you have up to two minutes to respond.

Mr. Steve Clark: On behalf of myself and the member for Cambridge, I would like to thank the member for Durham, the member for Hamilton East–Stoney Creek, the member for Pickering–Scarborough East and the member for York–Simcoe for their comments.

I think it was my friend the member for Cambridge who first talked about the fish stories. We’ve had lots of banter back and forth this morning about fish stories, but when we talk about having a bill like Bill 44—and again, my colleagues on this side of the House, the official opposition, have stated countless times during this debate the fact that we support the north and the fact that we’ll be supporting this bill. However, you look at $130. Again, it’s ridiculous. It’s a joke, I think someone said earlier.

I think the member for Hamilton East–Stoney Creek struck a nerve when he used the words “all-out assault,” or perhaps it was the member from Durham who said, “an all-out assault.” That got a bit of a rise out of the government members, because in the days and weeks to come, we’re going to hear from Ontarians about this government’s policies. We’re going to hear from seniors and people on fixed incomes when they get their energy bills after July 1; when they go to the pump to pump gas after July 1.

I think that in the days and weeks ahead, this bill, although it does support the north—we will hear from those in the south, the east and the west. I truly believe that this government is going to hear loud and clear from Ontarians about how disappointed they are in their energy policies.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Pursuant to standing order 47(c), there having been six and a half hours of debate, this debate will be deemed adjourned unless the government House leader specifies otherwise.

Hon. Monique M. Smith: We’re adjourning the debate.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): The debate is therefore adjourned.

Second reading debate deemed adjourned.

PENSION BENEFITS

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR LES RÉGIMES DE RETRAITE

Resuming the debate adjourned on April 28, 2010, on the motion for third reading of Bill 236,

An Act to amend the Pension Benefits Act / Projet de loi 236, Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les régimes de retraite.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Further debate? Does any other member wish to speak?

Does the minister wish to respond?

Hon. Monique M. Smith: We appreciate the opportunity to have a debate on this bill, and we look forward to moving it forward.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Ms. Smith has moved third reading of Bill 236. Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry?

All those in favour, say “aye.”

All those opposed, say “nay.”

In my opinion, the ayes have it.

This vote will be deferred until after question period.

Third reading vote deferred.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): Orders of the day?

Hon. Monique M. Smith: No further business this morning.

The Deputy Speaker (Mr. Bruce Crozier): There being no further business this morning, this House will recess until 10:30 of the clock.

The House recessed from 0947 to 1030.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I’d just like to say that, as Speaker, part of my job is to provide balance, and I’m trying to deal with an issue right now. I’ve got members complaining it’s too cold and others say it’s just great, so we will endeavour to find balance.

INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS

Hon. Linda Jeffrey: I would like to introduce our guests who are on their way into the Legislature from the Canadian Hearing Society: Veronica Bickle, Pat Morano, Maureen Baskerville, and their interpreter, Lorna Schuster. Welcome to all of their delegations that are visiting members in the Legislature today.

Hon. Margarett R. Best: It’s my pleasure to welcome the parents and family of my page from Scarborough–Guildwood, Ms. Nirosha Balakumar: her mom, Asha Balakumar; her dad, Balakumar Sinnathamby; her sister, Priya Balakumar; and her cousin, Nicole Anjali Jeyanathan. It’s a pleasure to welcome you to the Legislature today.

Mrs. Christine Elliott: It’s a pleasure to introduce Andrew Scott, who is a grade 12 student at Sinclair high school in Whitby. Andrew has been accepted to study history at the Royal Military College next year. He’s also a sea cadet. Andrew is going to be shadowing me today to find out what an MPP does. Welcome, Andrew.

Mrs. Laura Albanese: It is a pleasure to welcome Hillary Keirstead, a constituent of York South–Weston and also a summer student in our constituency office. Welcome, Hillary.

Mr. Tony Ruprecht: I have the great pleasure to introduce to the House a delegation from the People’s Republic of China, specifically from Zhejiang province. They came here today to see how government business is being conducted, especially in the House. Their delegation consists of Mr. Wang, who is the vice-premier, Mr. Xu, Mr. Lu, Mr. Hu, Mr. He, Mr. Yao and Mrs. Zou. Congratulations, and thank you for visiting us.

Mr. John Yakabuski: My guests have not arrived yet. That’s probably because I was in a meeting and not at the door to meet them, but they will be here shortly: Diane Walsworth and Jean Davies from my riding. The reason they’re here is a fundraiser for the Bonnechere Union library, at which they bid on an auction—and that was the occasion to have lunch with their MPP at Queen’s Park and have a personal tour of the facilities here. They are here today. They bid the highest in the auction. We thank them for the support of the Bonnechere Union library and welcome them to the House today.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I trust that the honourable member is going to show them how well behaved he is, too.

The member for Northumberland–Quinte West.

Mr. Lou Rinaldi: I’m not going to name them, but we have a number of folks from Northumberland–Quinte West here today in room 228, and they’re going to be coming through the House on and off all day.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I’d like to take this opportunity, on behalf of the member from Mississauga–Streetsville and page Vrajesh Dave, to welcome his mother, Priti Dave, his father, Hemant Dave, his brother Niraj Dave, his grandmother Ansuya Patel and his grandfather Kanti Patel to the east members’ gallery. Welcome to Queen’s Park today.

I’d like to take this opportunity to welcome the grade 5 class from Bishop Strachan School and their teacher, Cathy Powell, to the east gallery today. We welcome all the students, including Shamsa Qaadri, daughter of MPP Qaadri, and Mira Korngold, granddaughter of MPP Sorbara. Welcome to Queen’s Park.

ORAL QUESTIONS

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS

Mrs. Christine Elliott: My question is to the Premier. Former Liberal staffer Mohamed Dhanani is a candidate for Toronto city council in this year’s municipal election. Dhanani’s Web page includes the boast, “Most recently, I served as senior adviser to the Minister of Energy and Infrastructure at Queen’s Park where I was a lead negotiator in one of the largest economic development deals in Ontario’s history, creating a new industry....” He’s clearly referring to his role in the Samsung deal.

Why did you appoint a political staffer as your lead negotiator with Samsung?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: I’m going to refer this to the Minister of Energy and Infrastructure.

Hon. Brad Duguid: I know very slightly the gentleman the member is referring to. I understand that he was employed by one of my predecessors.

The fact is that our government worked very hard to get the best possible agreement for Ontarians, to ensure, indeed, that the Samsung agreement would deliver 16,000 jobs to this province; to ensure that this agreement would open four new manufacturing facilities, creating at least 1,240-odd full-time jobs in manufacturing; to ensure that $7 billion of private sector investment came into the province.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Mrs. Christine Elliott: Mr. Dhanani didn’t have any particular experience in this area. He had no legal training or experience in energy. Before joining George Smitherman’s office, his main qualifications were a Liberal membership and being the hand-picked appointee to chair the Toronto Centre LHIN. And the deal was done outside the usual tendering process. In effect, it is the mother of all untendered contracts.

Was Dhanani tapped to be your lead negotiator because of experience in handing out untendered contracts and sweetheart deals at the LHIN?

Hon. Brad Duguid: I appreciate the role that this gentleman may have played in terms of providing advice to one of my predecessors in this position, but certainly his role has been overstated by you and potentially others who may have talked about what his role may have been.

The fact is that this is a very positive initiative for Ontarians. It’s an initiative that helps build the critical mass we need to build in this province, that we’re setting out to build in this province to move forward on the energy front, to create jobs in this province—new green jobs that are the next generation of economic jobs, that are going to help create that green energy hub we’re working so hard to create. This initiative is a very important initiative to the future of energy in this province, and we’re very, very proud to be moving forward in partnership with—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Final supplementary.

Mrs. Christine Elliott: The fact is that the Premier and the former Minister of Energy picked a foreign company with no Canadian experience over Ontario’s homegrown renewable energy industry.

Tom Rankin, of Rankin Renewable Power, says, “The province made rules for everybody to follow. If they can just walk in and jump to the head of the queue, I don’t think that’s fair.” Dave Butters, of the Association of Power Producers of Ontario, says, “It’s just wrong at every level of public policy we can think of. The industry feels like they’ve been thrown under the bus.”

Ontario families and seniors are footing a bill for this secret untendered contract with increased energy rates and new taxes. Why would they have confidence that your lead negotiator, a political staffer with no legal training or energy experience, negotiated a good deal for them?

Hon. Brad Duguid: I’m not really sure why the Conservatives would be against the $7-billion private sector investment in our economy. That’s beyond me. Why would they be against the 16,000 new jobs in this economy as a result of the Green Energy Act? That’s only a piece of the investment that we’ve been able to attract. There’s another $9 billion of private sector investment as a result of the Green Energy Act that’s moving forward, that’s creating projects as a result of 184 other approvals that came forward under the feed-in tariff program. That’s going to create another 20,000 jobs.

If you ask me, that’s good news for Ontarians, that’s good news for our economy, and that’s helping us build cleaner, more productive sources of energy that are going to drive our economy and our energy sector forward into a much brighter future than it would have been under your—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Order. New question.

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS

Mr. John Yakabuski: My question is for the Premier. Yesterday you admitted that the HST will hit Ontario families in their pocketbooks, but you’re driving ahead with your agenda anyway. Perhaps the Premier found the moment of honesty cleansing, so maybe he will also explain George Smitherman’s visit to Korea last June, where he collected an award at a gala held by the World Wind Energy Conference last year. You never publicly congratulated your minister. Is it because you didn’t want anyone to know that George Smitherman was in Korea?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: This is all very interesting, but what I think it speaks to fundamentally is that we have a Conservative Party which is afraid of a global economy; they’re afraid of opening Ontario to new possibilities; they’re afraid of us moving forward in this global economy and seizing new opportunities. I just want to, for the purpose of Ontarians’ benefit, draw a clear line of distinction. We don’t shrink from the future. We’re not afraid of the global economy. We embrace that, and we embrace the opportunities to be found there.

If we can find new investments coming from Korea or Japan or China or India or any other part of this world to come into our province and create jobs for the people of Ontario and support our families and support our economy and support our health care and support our education, we’re proud to do it.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Order. The member from Durham. The member from Halton. The member from Peterborough.

Interjection.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): The member from Nepean–Carleton will please withdraw the comment that she just made.

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: I withdraw.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): It’s not helpful, the member from Peterborough. I learn these voices. I don’t have to look at you; I can hear you.

Supplementary?

Mr. John Yakabuski: I prefer it when it’s much quieter, yes.

The sweetheart deal that Dalton McGuinty handed to Samsung came out of nowhere. No one is registered to lobby for the Korean company. Now it looks like the deal was cooked up offshore when George Smitherman was in Korea to collect his mysterious award. The JoongAng Daily reports that Koreans are saying they came away with big subsidies and concessions on construction permits and environmental reviews.

You’re keeping the deal secret so no one knows what Ontario families gave up for what they get in return. Did you make Ontario families and seniors pay $437 million just so George Smitherman could be Korea’s man of the year?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: Again, my honourable colleague, on behalf of his party, gives expression to their fear of the global economy and their refusal to acknowledge the wonderful opportunities and the possibilities that can be created for Ontario families.

I gather that they are offended by a company based in Dearborn that employs thousands of Ontarians; it’s called GM. I guess they’re offended by another company that’s based in Auburn Hills that employs thousands of Ontarians; it’s called Chrysler. There’s another company that has just announced a second shift; it’s called Toyota. Another one that has announced a second shift is called Honda. There’s another one, GE—they’re based in the US—that has announced a new investment in the province of Ontario.

The world is waiting for us to move forward and seize those new opportunities and seize those new possibilities. They are mired in the past. We’re for the future. We’re for a strong economy.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Members will please come to order.

Final supplementary.

Mr. John Yakabuski: Ontarians subsidize a large Korean multinational and all we get from the Premier is hot air.

Something about this deal is so secret, the Premier isn’t even letting the auditor look at it. Ontario’s home-grown industry—and we heard from Dave Butters—wonders why there was no public bidding. The Environmental Commissioner criticizes your energy decisions, including this secret deal, for a lack of transparency, accountability and public participation. When Smitherman returned from Korea with his award, deal in hand, instead of a hero’s welcome, he was gang tackled in a cabinet meeting.

The integrity of this deal is in question. Why would you refuse to reassure Ontario families by inviting the auditor to review the deal? Or better yet, post the Samsung contract online. Let the people decide.

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: Just to restate something my colleague the Minister of Energy and Infrastructure said a moment ago, just to be clear, in addition to the investment that we have secured through Samsung—$7 billion, 16,000 jobs and four manufacturing plants—there are also another 180-some separate contracts with Ontario companies securing $9 billion worth of investment and 20,000 jobs.

I also say to my honourable colleague, what would he have said had he learned that in our competition with the US to secure this new investment from Samsung, we had lost out on that investment and we had lost out on those 16,000 jobs? He wouldn’t understand a win if it was to bite him in the face. This is a big win for the people of Ontario. We fought in the global economy for this contract. We landed this contract for the people of Ontario.

TAXATION

Ms. Andrea Horwath: My question is for the Premier. Yesterday, the Premier finally admitted what Ontario families knew all along: that the HST would cost them more. Eight hundred dollars a year is a lot of money for families. That’s groceries for a month or gas in the car for four months.

Why did it take the Premier over a year to admit to families that they’re going to be paying more with the HST?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: My honourable colleague and I have had many opportunities to speak to this issue. She is apparently in possession of some magic, of which we are not in possession here in government.

We’ve lost some 250,000 jobs as a result of this recession. We believe that Ontarians understand we’re going to have to do a few things differently to grow stronger. We believe that growing stronger is not an option for us. It involves doing some things that are difficult. We are going to move ahead with the HST.

There are 140 other countries where they already have the HST. When we send our export businesses out into the global economy to compete at present, they are doing it with their hands tied behind their backs. What we want to do is free them up so they can compete on the same standing and the same even ground as other companies, so that they can create 600,000 more jobs for our families. That is what this economy comes down to: It’s jobs for today and jobs for tomorrow.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: We used StatsCan’s economic model to estimate the impact of the HST on families, the same one that governments and think tanks across the country regularly use. Even after the government’s so-called package of help, the average family is left paying $470 extra a year. That’s a few months of hydro bills or a summer camping trip with the kids.

If the Premier is so certain, as he continues to declare that imposing this new burden on families is a good thing, then why the heck has he been hiding the facts for over a year?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: I’m just not a big fan of NDP math. There may be a small constituency in Ontario that supports that particular style of calculation, but I’m not.

What I said to Ontarians before, and I’ll say again, is that if you’re confused as to where the numbers are coming from, then I’d refer you to two independent studies: one put out by the University of Calgary and one put out by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives. The former says that we’re going to create 600,000 more jobs over the course of 10 years and land $47 billion more by way of new investment.

I would think that my honourable colleague, representing the wonderful community of Hamilton, would want to know that we should be working together to do everything we possibly can, particularly to strengthen our manufacturing sector, so that it can create more jobs for communities like Hamilton.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Final supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: The Premier should wake up and smell the coffee and watch all those jobs that are still walking away from Hamilton, like Siemens that walked away even knowing the HST was coming online. Let’s not pretend that your scheme is getting jobs in Hamilton, because it’s not.

Families are going to pay, and they’re going to pay big: thousands of dollars every year in new taxes, thanks to the McGuinty Liberals, and those aren’t NDP figures; those are StatsCan’s figures. It’s far from the revenue-neutral scheme that this Ontario government talks about, even when we factored in the so-called help that they claim to be giving families.

Finally, yesterday, the Premier admitted that people are going to be paying more, but I still have to ask, how will taking hundreds of dollars out of family budgets actually help our economy?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: Just to quote the folks over at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives—again, the title of their study was, Not a Tax Grab After All. This is a quotation from that report: “Harmonized sales tax ... is virtually revenue-neutral when viewed as part of a total tax package ... the tax credits and tax cuts have the effect of offsetting the impact of the increased HST revenue for low-income and of moderate-income families and moderating the impact for other families” in Ontario.

Again, I would refer Ontarians to independent studies rather than the NDP math. I would encourage my colleague to be straight with the people of Ontario. We need to do things a little bit differently in order to strengthen this economy and create more jobs, not just for us today but for our kids tomorrow

TAXATION

Ms. Andrea Horwath: The numbers I’m quoting from are current numbers, and they’re very, very clear and obvious. To anybody who wants to see the research, we’re happy to provide it.

My second question is to the Premier. Yesterday, the Premier told Ontario families that they’re going to be paying more to help Ontario businesses. That’s pretty much how he’s couched it. What I want to know is, exactly how much is his HST scheme going to transfer from families to businesses?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: I think we’ve indicated in the past, several times over, that the total tax cuts for Ontarians as individuals grossly exceeds the tax cuts that we’re making available for businesses, and I know my colleague is aware of that.

The premise of her question is that there is this perpetual divide between our families and our businesses. I’d like to think that, as Ontarians, we’ve moved beyond that. We understand how important it is for our businesses to be successful, so that they can grow and create more jobs for us, so that we can support our families and support our public services.

I would encourage my colleague to move away from that old mindset that says that you’ve got to pit families against businesses and understand that, in fact, we’ve got to have strong businesses so that we can have strong families, and if we have strong families, we can have strong businesses.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Ms. Andrea Horwath: The Premier has obviously refused to say just how much money the HST will raise from Ontario families. That’s why New Democrats used the Stats Canada model to do just that. It turns out that the HST will take $5.9 billion out of family budgets, and under your scheme, most of that money—almost $4 billion—won’t go to schools, hospitals or nurses, but will go to tax cuts for business.

Why should the average family take an $800 hit to their annual budget just to fund someone else’s multi-billion dollar tax cut?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: Again, I want to quote the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives because I think it’s important to introduce a bit of light into this debate and a little less heat. They are independent and a third party. They said that the harmonized sales tax is “virtually revenue-neutral when viewed as part of a total tax package ... the tax credits and tax cuts have the effect of offsetting the impact of the increased HST revenue for low-income and moderate-income families and of moderating the impact for other families” in Ontario.

Having said that, we have always said that what we are about to ask families to do is not an easy thing. We’ve restricted this to 17% of consumer purchases; 83% will remain unaffected by this tax change. We’re doing this because we need to grow stronger. We need to position ourselves so that we’re stronger in the global economy. We’ve lost 250,000 jobs. Let’s create 600,000 new ones.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Final supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: I just wanted to quote from a letter I quoted from yesterday from the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, which did conclude findings similar to what we concluded, that the lowest-income folks are going to have a bit of a wash when it comes to the HST. This letter also said that the CCPA did not take a position as to the desirability of the HST as such. It also raised concerns about the impact on First Nations and seniors who do not benefit from the credit increases that the government always talks about.

But you know what? Ontario certainly does need to help businesses—I would agree; especially small businesses—to prosper and grow, but whacking their customers with an $800 tax is a dumb way to do it.

Does the Premier really think that it’s fair to ask the average family to take an $800 hit to their budget just so someone else can receive a multi-billion dollar tax cut?

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: That wouldn’t be fair, and that’s why we’re not doing it. I’m not sure where my colleague is getting those numbers, except as part of some fantastic

interpretation of our package of tax reforms.

I’m not sure if I can say anything more than I’ve already said, except to recommend to Ontarians independent studies, to remind them once again of why we’re doing this and to acknowledge that what we’re asking them to do is not necessarily an easy thing. But I think there comes a time when every generation has to ask themselves what they need to do to secure a bright future for their kids. We’ve come to the conclusion that this is part of that answer.

We’ve got to put in place a value-added tax, the HST—that they have in 140 other countries; we’ll now be the sixth province to put this in place—so that we have a strong economy that creates jobs, not just for us today but for our kids tomorrow.

Really, it’s as straightforward as that.

TAXATION

Mr. Norm Miller: My question is for the Premier. George Smitherman’s “man of the year” award is not the only thing the Premier tried to slip past Ontario families. For months, Dalton McGuinty has been sitting on the fact that he knew all along his HST tax grab would attack household budgets.

Why did you wait until now to confess that you knew the HST would hit Ontario families and seniors hard in their pocketbooks?

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): To the Minister of Revenue.

Hon. John Wilkinson: As the Premier was saying, it’s very simple: On this side of the House, we have a plan to create 600,000 more jobs and attract $47 billion worth of investment. On the other side of the House, they have no plan. What they’re telling us to do is status quo, don’t change anything, when the good people of Ontario know that the world indeed has changed and the responsible thing for our government to do is to understand that and make sure we’re taking whatever steps are necessary today to secure a brighter future for our children and our grandchildren.

We are convinced that despite the fact that this is a challenge, it is the right thing to do. I think it’s so right and it’s so plainly obvious that even the opposition have said they’re going to keep it. I can’t ask for any more validation than the fact that they agree with our plan. If they didn’t, they would say how they would change—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Supplementary?

Mr. Norm Miller: I don’t know how the Premier can refer this question.

But I will say, the minister is talking about jobs. You’re very good at promising jobs, but not so good at delivering them.

Up until yesterday, the Premier was saying the HST would have no impact on families, but he knew all along that it would hit Ontario families and seniors, who already struggle to pay Dalton McGuinty’s health tax; higher rates for power; $350 a year more in energy taxes; his smart meter tax grab; new taxes on electronics, tires, plastic bags. Now he has changed what he says about the HST to, “I know that what we’re asking of families is not easy.” But, Premier, you haven’t asked at all. Why are you saying you asked families, when you rammed the HST through?

Hon. John Wilkinson: As I was saying, on this side of the House we actually have a plan to attract $47 billion worth of new investments. Do you know what that creates? That creates new 21st-century jobs.

I know the members opposite, who are the proponents of the status quo, believe the smartest thing we can do in this province is nothing. That’s their advice to us. But the good people of Ontario know that the world indeed has changed and it falls to us to make difficult decisions.

As the Premier was saying, the HST will impact people. But let’s not forget all of the tax cuts, all of the measures that people will benefit from, and the fact that the opposition has consistently voted against every one of those measures. They don’t believe that we should have cut income taxes for the people in this province to the lowest rate of any province in this country. They don’t believe there should be an HST rebate for the people who have the least—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question.

INJURED WORKERS

Mr. Paul Miller: My question is to the Minister of Labour. Many injured workers have life-altering experiences—ones which the WSIB should be helping you through, not causing roadblocks and downright pitfalls—but we know that when an injured worker is ready to return to the workplace and needs to be retrained, the worst days could be just starting.

How does the WSIB determine which career colleges an injured worker will be sent to?

Hon. Peter Fonseca: To the member opposite, this government cares very deeply about our injured workers. That is why we have increased the amount of benefits for injured workers three times, 2.5% each time—7.5%. We also just raised injured worker benefits again, just a couple of months ago. Contrast that with the member’s party and the Conservative Party, where they did not raise injured worker benefits over a 12-year period. Over a 12-year period, they barely touched the benefits to injured workers.

I’ll speak more in the supplementary about what we’re doing to help workers re-enter the marketplace through our labour market re-entry program, but—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Supplementary?

Mr. Paul Miller: We have many emails from injured workers who have been duped by the system into taking training that leads nowhere. They’re injured workers who have been sent to private career colleges by the WSIB, who attend in good faith only to discover, upon completing their course, that that private career college is not accredited, cannot issue a diploma and has been a complete and utter waste of their time and public money. Then, imagine, despite being told about the unaccredited private career college rip-off, the WSIB cuts off the injured workers, claiming that they have been retrained and must now find new work.

What on earth is going on here? How can such a monumental mistake keep happening over and over again?

Hon. Peter Fonseca: The labour market re-entry program is a very important program. What we want to do is make sure that we can help any worker who has been injured in the workplace re-enter the labour market. That’s why we’ve had a review of that labour market re-entry program.

I can say that the new president of the WSIB, David Marshall, is looking at this very closely and looking at how we can change that program so that we have the positive outcomes that we are all looking for. Those positive outcomes are that those injured workers are able to reintegrate into the marketplace and find meaningful employment. This is something that we can all agree upon. I can agree with the member that that program needs to be fixed, and that’s what is happening as we speak.

PRESCRIPTION DRUGS

Mr. Khalil Ramal: My question is for the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care. Minister, my constituents of London–Fanshawe have heard a lot about drug reform. As you know, Minister, people were very happy and thrilled to see the price of drugs going down, especially common drugs for blood pressure, antibiotics and many other drugs. They were happy to see the cost go down, because they will save a lot of money.

But in the meantime, they heard a lot of stories as a result of ads by big chains, like Shoppers Drug Mart and Pharma Plus, talking about reducing services to the people of Ontario, especially for our riding of London–Fanshawe. So can you tell us what the impact is of this reform on services for the people of London?

Interruption.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Stop the clock. Somebody’s face is very red.

Hon. Michael Gravelle: I apologize.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you for the apology. Minister?

Hon. Deborah Matthews: Thank you to the remarkable and outstanding member from London–Fanshawe. Despite the millions and millions of dollars that are being spent by those who oppose our plan, I’m very happy to hear that Ontarians are getting the message that our reforms would dramatically reduce the price of drugs in Ontario. Whether it’s antibiotics for kids, birth control pills or medication for high blood pressure or depression, Ontarians are paying too much for drugs. I think we have a responsibility to fix that, to take action, and that is what we are doing.

Yesterday, Loblaws announced that they have a plan to expand their drugstores as a result of our proposed changes. They intend to open more pharmacies and extend those hours—keep them open longer. Access to pharmacy care is an important part of our plan. I’m very happy to see we’re making—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Supplementary?

Mr. Khalil Ramal: I guess this news would be very important for my constituents. Also, I want to tell you, Minister, about a very important issue. The people of my riding are confused as a result of many different messages. Last Friday, almost 56 students from pharmacy departments came to my office, and they talked about the cuts. Also, the people of London receive a lot of calls from telemarketers telling them we’re cutting services for the people of Ontario.

Can you tell us, Minister, as a result of your drug reform, how is it going to be helpful for the people, and no cut for the front-line health care providers in the province of Ontario? It’s very important to my riding and also to all the ridings across the province of Ontario.

Hon. Deborah Matthews: It’s very important that Ontarians get the whole story here. We pay too much for generic drugs. It’s that simple. No one has argued against that. The reason we’re paying too much is because these so-called professional allowances are inflating the cost of our drugs. Our plan is simple, too. We want to bring down the cost of generic drugs by at least 50%. We can do this by banning the payments from generic companies to pharmacies.

Our plan, also, is to put almost $300 million back into pharmacy in higher dispensing fees for the drugs that we, as a government, buy; for expanded services that pharmacists provide; and for special supports in rural communities. We’re making these changes for patients, hard-working Ontarians who are paying too—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question.

MEMBERS’ PRIVILEGES

Mr. Ted Arnott: My question is for the Minister of Finance. On budget day, when 18 of our PC members tried to leave the lockup so that we could be in our seats in this chamber when the budget was presented, we were blocked from doing so. When the minister’s office finally gave the order to release us at about 3:55, we rushed from the briefing room to the chamber as quickly as possible, because many of our members arrived late. Members of the Liberal caucus jeered and laughed at us in front of the guests seated in the galleries who were invited from across the province.

Why has the minister refused to apologize for the role his office played in obstructing our members?

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I am going to give the member an opportunity to ask a new question. This is a matter that the Speaker ruled on yesterday. The House agreed as a whole that the matter be referred to a committee for the committee to conduct a review and investigation of what took place on March 25. I believe that that is the appropriate course right now. I will allow the member to ask a new question on another subject, but I will not allow that question to be put.

Mr. Ted Arnott: With respect, this matter is still before the House because it’s before a standing committee of the Legislature.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): No. The Speaker has ruled on this—to refer this matter to committee. I’m giving you an opportunity to ask a new question.

Okay. New question. The member for Parkdale–High Park.

HOMELESSNESS

Ms. Cheri DiNovo: My question is to the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing. This week, the Salvation Army released a new survey on homelessness in Canada. They found that one in eight Ontarians have experienced or come close to experiencing homelessness, almost three times the rate of Quebec. Why is the McGuinty government falling so far behind Quebec in reducing homelessness?

Hon. James J. Bradley: I will share with the member—because I know she likes to hear these figures, and sometimes they bear repetition. The member has perhaps forgotten we have committed to creating and repairing at least 76,500 housing units. We’re delivering close to 35,000 rent supplements to help make rent more affordable to Ontario families. Our rent bank has prevented nearly 23,000 evictions so far; on an average, that means keeping 330 families in their home every month.

In agreement with the federal government, we’re investing $622 million. The federal government is matching that, for a combined total—unprecedented, in my view—of $1.2 billion for housing. Some $704 million of this was allocated for the social housing renovation and retrofit program. And to date, we’ve seen $260 million spent for repairs improving—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Supplementary?

Ms. Cheri DiNovo: We have one of the worst records addressing homelessness in Canada, and this study shows it. This report shows that one and a half million Ontarians are at risk of homelessness. Quebec has barrelled ahead with affordable housing while this government, as the Auditor General has also made clear, has cut the capacity of the ministry of housing, lost track of hundreds of millions of federal housing dollars and failed to make housing programs truly affordable.

How many more Liberal housing ministers will Ontarians have to live through before Ontarians have the same access to affordable housing enjoyed by Quebecers?

Hon. James J. Bradley: Now that we have the federal government committed to this program, it’s going to make a substantial difference. I think what the member understood, probably very well, was that there was a period of time when a previous government was in power, when the federal and provincial governments were not involved in public housing to any great extent. They started to abandon that field. Our government, since taking office, has moved rapidly to try to address this.

Is there more to do? There’s always more to do. I understand that. We are developing those policies. We are adding those funds each and every year. The rent bank I mentioned, for instance, which helps keep people in their homes, helped over 22,700 Ontario families. Some 14,727 units have already been created or are on their way under the Canada-Ontario—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question.

FULL-DAY KINDERGARTEN

Mr. Rick Johnson: My question is to the Minister of Education. Minister, Bill 242, introduced to provide the next step in establishing full-day learning for four- and five-year-olds in the province, passed third reading on April 27. The full-day learning program has seen widespread support, but the member from Nepean–Carleton and her caucus colleagues have been very vocal in their opposition to the plan. Their perception is that parents will not have a choice in sending their children to full- or half-day kindergarten. They say that with the full-day learning program in place, parents will lose the choice to have their children in school for half days.

Minister, are you taking away choice from parents who wish to have their children enrolled in kindergarten for only half the day?

Hon. Leona Dombrowsky: I thank the honourable member for the question because I think that some parents do have questions. I think it’s also important to reaffirm that parents always have a choice when it comes to their children until they are six years of age. It is important that I would clarify that kindergarten is optional under the Education Act.

Schools that offer the early learning program will only implement the full-day learning program with an extended-day option. So whether the children attend the extended-day programming is up to the parents.

Also, if a parent wishes to send their child to a school that has a full-day program but wishes their child to attend half-time, they are able to do that. The choice is entirely up to the parent. We respect that and certainly—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Supplementary?

Mr. Rick Johnson: Minister, I appreciate the clarification.

Continuing on the theme of choice, I think we can also understand that the before- and after-school program proposed may not fit the lifestyles and choices of all families. Some may want to pick up their children right after the school portion, while others may not be able to get away from work until a little later and may need to make better use of the after-school programming.

During third reading debate on Bill 242, the member from Dufferin–Caledon quoted a memo from the early learning division ADM that parents with children not taking

part in the after-school program would be receiving homework. Minister, echoing the sentiments of the member from Dufferin–Caledon, don’t you think that four- and five-year-olds are a little too young to be receiving homework?

Hon. Leona Dombrowsky: I do appreciate having the opportunity to clarify this very important issue. Of course, we’re not expecting kindergarten children to do homework. But what we have heard from parents who would not perhaps be able, for a range of reasons, to have their children in the extended-day program is that they’re very curious about what experiences their children might be missing.

What we have done is we have developed some material for parents, should they want to be sure that their children have the same kinds of experiences in their own home or with another caregiver that those in the extended day will have. We have provided some materials that are certainly optional for parents. It will provide parents with guidance about complementary learning activities if they wish to use that with their children. It’s totally—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question.

ABATTOIRS

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: My question is to the Minister of Agriculture. Minister, “Small Abattoirs an Endangered Species”: That’s the headline in the Regional Country News. The Owen Sound Sun Times says, “Small Butchers on Chopping Block.” The Toronto Star says, “Closures would be a blow to the local food movement.”

Minister, that’s the situation in rural Ontario. If you care so much about local food and food safety, why, according to your estimates, are you spending $4.3 million less this year to help small abattoirs reach those regulations that you imposed upon them?

Hon. Carol Mitchell: I thank you for the question. We do support local food because we recognize how important local food is, not only for our agricultural community but for our agriculture commodities as well.

We have committed over $65 million into local food. You know what? It’s making a difference. The brand today of Ontario Foodland has 96% acceptance. People want to buy Ontario food. It is a brand they can count on, and food safety is an important component of that. That is why the brand has such strong recognition.

I look forward in the supplementary to speaking specifically to the abattoirs.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: I just want to point out that this minister speaks about making a difference. I want to tell you that the difference your actions are making on small abattoirs is not of a positive nature.

Actually, Minister, your government announced $25.3 million for small abattoirs, but according to the public accounts and estimates documents you have spent only $17.5 million. Over a quarter of that money that you are taking credit for never actually went out the door.

Now that you have been found out, will you apologize to the small abattoirs and use the rest of the money that you announced to help them, or are you writing off the remaining abattoirs in small-town Ontario?

Hon. Carol Mitchell: Certainly we recognize that small abattoirs are important to our rural communities. That is why we committed to the $25 million. But I want to say, too, that meat inspection is an important component of local food. You fired meat inspectors; we hired meat inspectors. The brand recognition is about food safety.

We are working with our abattoirs to reach the compliance. Deb Stark, who was appointed chief veterinarian, is talking directly. It is an important component, and food safety is what makes our local brands successful. We will continue to work with our abattoirs in order for them to provide the services that our rural communities are very supportive of—in the past and in the future.

PUBLIC TRANSIT

Ms. Andrea Horwath: My question is to the Premier. This morning, I was at Toronto city hall where I joined my Toronto colleagues to sign a petition supporting the Transit City vision. As the details emerge of a revised construction timetable, it is very clear that this vision has been dealt a crippling blow by the McGuinty government’s $4-billion cut to transit funding. LRT lines will be dramatically shortened and the completion dates will be pushed back five years or more, if they ever get built.

Torontonians are left wondering why the Premier is so wilfully destroying their city’s vision for better public transit.

Hon. Dalton McGuinty: To the Minister of Transportation.

Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: I actually think that one of the things Torontonians are wondering is why the NDP wouldn’t be supporting public transit; why the NDP wouldn’t be working with their city hall counterparts and encouraging them to work with us to make sure the plan works; why the NDP has a member who has voted against and has opposed the Union-Pearson link, has opposed the development of that transit in the west end of Toronto; and why the NDP doesn’t understand that delaying funding over 10 years instead of finishing in eight years is just that.

It’s spreading money over a slightly longer period of time, but we will be going ahead within that 10 years on all of the projects that have been planned.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Ms. Andrea Horwath: The NDP is the only party in this Legislature that supports the full construction of Transit City by the original timelines. The NDP is the only party in this Legislature that stands with the residents of the Eglinton corridor, who have waited for decades already for a dedicated transit line that would reduce gridlock and pollution. New Democrats are the only ones. We support Transit City 100% because it is good for the economy and good for the environment.

When will this Premier and his transportation minister realize the folly of this $4-billion cut and immediately deliver what they’ve already promised and committed to?

Hon. Kathleen O. Wynne: There is work under way right now. When the leader of the NDP talks about delivering right now, there’s work going on right now. In fact, there’s work going on in the west end of Toronto that the member for Parkdale–High Park has tried to block at every single turn. In 2007, the NDP voted against the budget, which included MoveOntario 2020. The NDP has consistently opposed transit building in this city.

The reality is that we have had to delay this funding. The reality is that it was the responsible and prudent thing for us to do in our budget, to make a decision to spread our funding over a slightly longer period of time—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Order. The member from Parkdale–High Park.

New question.

EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS

Mrs. Laura Albanese: My question is for the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services. This week is Emergency Preparedness Week in Ontario and across Canada. The daily news reminds us all too well that emergencies can happen to anyone at any time without warning. While we think it can never happen to us, you may remember the tornado that struck Vaughan last year, and back in 1954, Toronto and my community of York South–Weston were struck by a devastating hurricane, Hurricane Hazel.

Just imagine: The Humber River in Weston rose six metres; 4,000 people were left homeless; 32 had to wait to be rescued from flooding on the roof of a single home; 81 people died. This is an example of why it’s necessary to be ready.

Can the minister tell us what our government is doing for Emergency Preparedness Week and what we are doing to help—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Minister?

Hon. Rick Bartolucci: The member is correct: While Ontario is a very safe place to live, work, play and grow in, we always have to be ready in the event of an emergency.

Emergency Management Ontario is the government’s first line of support in an emergency. They coordinate the government’s response, but they are vital in the prevention and in the recovery strategies to maximize the safety and security of Ontarians as well. I commend them for their work.

This year, our ministry is putting Ontarians to the test by asking them to visit www.ontario.ca/beprepared. There is a challenge that consists of a series of quizzes for all ages. We encourage Ontarians to take it to see how prepared they are.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Supplementary?

Mrs. Laura Albanese: Thank you, Minister. I encourage my constituents to take the emergency preparedness challenge.

We are told that the first 72 hours are a crucial time in the wake of an emergency. There’s no doubt that our emergency responders do an excellent job, but during the first 72 hours, there’s a chance they might not be able to help and assist everyone. If families are able to support themselves for that 72-hour time frame, then our emergency responders can better focus their efforts on helping those who are most in need. That’s why it’s essential that all Ontarians have an emergency plan for themselves, their families and even their pets.

Minister, what should Ontarians do to be properly prepared in case of an emergency, especially for those first 72 hours?

Hon. Rick Bartolucci: The member asked a very good and very important question. In an emergency situation, emergency response resources and first responders may be stretched thin, so families should be prepared to take care of themselves for at least 72 hours. Being prepared means having an emergency plan in place for your family, for your pets, as well as compiling an emergency survival kit that is always ready to go and is built to last for three days.

Unfortunately, only 12% of Ontario families have an emergency preparedness kit. Part of this education is to encourage Ontarians to put that kit together. That is a personal kit. It will differ from family to family, but it has to last those first 72 hours.

ENERGY RATES

Mr. John Yakabuski: My question is to the Minister of Energy and Infrastructure. Minister, when your government tabled its budget, the CARP advocacy group for seniors reviewed the impact of smart meters. They pointed out that for older persons who have to stay home all day and need the heat or air conditioning or have medical equipment hooked up, energy consumption during the peak periods is not an option. The impact of your smart meters on disabled and elderly persons is just wrong.

Recently, the member for Durham received an email from a constituent of his whose spouse has MS and requires their home air conditioning to be on 24/7. Understandably, this family is worried about the cost of peak electricity.

Minister, only yesterday the Premier finally admitted that the HST will cost taxpayers more. Will you admit that your smart meters are a hardship for disabled Ontarians and will you explain what you will do to help disabled Ontarians pay their electricity—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Minister?

Hon. Brad Duguid: I thank the member for the question. I can say that there is no evidence to suggest that there are any facts to what the member is saying at all. This is a new program. We’re going to continue to monitor the impacts and the advantages that time-of-use has for our people and our users and our consumers here in this province. But what time-of-use does is it gives our consumers an opportunity to participate in the efforts that we’re trying to make to conserve energy, to move from peak energy times of use to off-peak times of use. It gives them an opportunity to contribute to that.

Why are we doing this? We’re doing this because together, we have to make sure that we’re doing all we can to make up for the lack of investment that you made in the energy sector during your time in office seven years ago. I’ll have more to say about that in the supplementary.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Mr. John Yakabuski: To the Minister of Energy and Infrastructure: Minister, a constituent of mine, Alvin Mielke, suffers from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. He has to be on oxygen 24 hours a day, seven days a week. In hot, humid weather, his breathing is heavily impeded and he must run his air conditioning—under doctor’s orders. Alvin Mielke is a pensioner on a fixed, low-income pension. Your so-called smart meters are going to whack him with substantially higher hydro bills, because Alvin doesn’t have the option of not breathing for 16 hours a day. And if that weren’t bad enough, you’re going to whack him with your greedy 8% HST tax grab on his hydro bill as well.

Minister, what are you going to do for Ontarians like Alvin, with chronic health conditions, who will be especially hard-hit by your so-called smart meters and your HST?

Hon. Brad Duguid: We’re very sensitive to the needs of low-income Ontarians when it comes to all of the challenges they face. We recognize that in a time of rising energy rates, low-income consumers need to be considered. That’s why, in the recent budget, we’ve put forward an energy tax credit that’s going to be of great advantage to help offset some of those costs.

There are a number of conservation measures as well that we’re moving forward on aggressively. We’re doing more in the area of conservation than any government has before us. We know there’s still more work to do, but we need to work with all Ontarians, whether they’re low-income Ontarians, high-income Ontarians, middle-income Ontarians; whether they’re seniors or young people. Every Ontarian has to join this effort to work together to bring down our use of energy, to ensure that we do all we can to work together to bring down the cost of energy. This is a—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question.

HOSPITAL FUNDING

Mr. Michael Prue: My question is to the Minister of Health. My community hospital is in crisis. Toronto East General Hospital, by the minister’s own admission, is one of the best community hospitals in Ontario.

On March 26, when I asked a question about this hospital, the minister said, “The era of unaffordable rates of increase for hospitals—those days are over.” Now we see how this government is finding those savings: by starving our local hospital and forcing them to lay off more than 120 nurses, from medical surgical units, the complex and continuing care unit, the family birthing centre and the pediatric unit. Why is this government turning its back on quality health care in my community?

Hon. Deborah Matthews: I would hardly call the rate of increase in hospital funding “starving hospitals.” Just for the member’s interest, hospital funding in Ontario has gone from $10.9 billion in 2003-04 to $16.3 billion in 2010-11. That’s almost a 50% increase in that period of time. That is a substantial increase in funding. As we look forward in our health care system, we simply must make choices about how we’re going to bring down the rate of increase when it comes to health care spending. Hospitals are, of course, a very, very important part of our health care system. The more we can deliver outside hospitals, the better our health care system will be.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Mr. Michael Prue: The minister’s choices are not good choices. There is no justification of this government’s wrong-headed scheme to decimate our local hospitals. Each full-time-equivalent RN position that is eliminated equals 1,950 fewer hours of care per year. Considering the 120 nurses, that’s a stunning 234,000 hours of care that will be cut from patients at Toronto East General. Research shows that every extra patient added to the workload of a registered nurse increases the rate of complications and patient deaths by 7%.

It is not too late for this minister to order Toronto East General Hospital to recall the pink slips. Will the government respect our community and keep our RNs—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Minister?

Hon. Deborah Matthews: I understand that the member opposite represents a party whose solution to every problem is to just keep spending more money. We actually take a different approach. I introduced legislation earlier this week that will really turn the focus to making sure we get the very best quality in our hospitals. We know that by getting higher quality, improved quality, we actually will be able to get better value for the money that we spend in health care.

This is a time of change in health care, make no mistake about it. Hospitals are such an important part of our health care system. That’s why we’re working so closely with them to improve the value of the money that we do spend in hospitals.

I was very pleased, when I made the announcement on this legislation, that I was joined by the Ontario Hospital Association, the Ontario Medical Association and the registered nurses of Ontario—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question.

TAXATION

Mr. Glen R. Murray: My question is to the Minister of Revenue. There have been dozens of harmonized sales tax studies undertaken since the 2009 budget. The vast majority of these studies have been done by independent third parties and the vast majority of those have found the HST will be largely revenue-neutral.

A report by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives has found that the HST, our comprehensive package, will leave families in a wide range of incomes—$30,000 to $90,000—better off, on average. They went on to say that Ontario families with the lowest incomes—$10,000 to $20,000—will be better off by about $119.

My constituents want to know who they can believe. Would the minister please tell us if the—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Minister?

Hon. John Wilkinson: I want to thank the member for the question. Late breaking news: Yesterday, when I was asked by the press, I said that I had some questions until I could see the assumptions used by the NDP in their report. I think the Premier was right to question the mathematics. So I’d say to my friends in the press, maybe the questions for the NDP should be: Why did you ignore some $4.3 billion in transitional relief? Why did you underestimate the personal income tax savings? Why did you conveniently ignore $1.5 billion worth of point-of-sale exemptions?

And oh, yeah, why do you disagree with the Toronto-Dominion Bank, which says the pass-through is $5 billion? You said it was only $1 billion. Those are really good questions that the Toronto Star will have for you today.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Mr. Glen R. Murray: Thank you.

Interjections.

Mr. Glen R. Murray: Mr. Speaker, I cannot—point of order, Mr. Speaker.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Order.

Mr. Glen R. Murray: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can barely hear over the party that wants to jack sales tax by 1%, and 2% in Nova Scotia.

Jim Stanford, with the Canadian Auto Workers Union, has said, “Political opposition to the HST does not reflect a well-considered call for a fairer tax system. It’s more about electoral gamesmanship by opposition parties eager to damage the current government.”

Further, Jim Stanford does not recommend that CAW locals, retired chapters or activists participate in anti-HST activities.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Minister.

Hon. John Wilkinson: It gives me an opportunity to explain to the good people exactly what part of the measures the NDP and the Conservatives voted against. They decided that the people with the lowest income in this province should not get the HST rebate starting in August—some $260 for qualifying adults and children. They voted against that. We now have the lowest personal income tax rate on the first $37,000 worth of income. They voted against that. Some 90,000 fewer people are on the income tax rolls because of our tax reforms. They voted against that.

They voted against the fact that there is some $4.3 billion worth of transition payments. They didn’t think that was a good idea. We voted for that. Why? Because on this side of the House we have a plan to attract $47 billion worth of new investment in this province, to create 591,000 jobs. On that side of the House they said, “Don’t get the investment and don’t get the jobs.” We—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question.

TOBACCO CONTROL

Mrs. Julia Munro: My question is for the Minister of Consumer Services. What steps are you taking to protect consumers, particularly those under 19, from the growing threat of illegal tobacco use? What leadership have you shown at the cabinet table for those under 19 who are consumers?

Hon. Sophia Aggelonitis: To the Minister of Revenue.

Hon. John Wilkinson: I say to the member—I think it’s something we all agree—there are people in our society who manufacture and sell contraband tobacco to our children. There is no room in Ontario for those people. They need to understand that our government believes that those people who are doing that need to have the fullest extent of our Tobacco Tax Act brought to bear against them. That’s why in five of the last seven budgets we have reformed our Tobacco Tax Act to ensure that people understand that if they are purveying poison to our children there will be no sympathy, there will be no mercy from our government.

I want to thank the member for raising the question. It is a serious one. It is so important for us to work in common cause with the federal government, with the US government and with the province of Quebec. I can tell the member that we are working very closely with other jurisdictions as we work to—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you.

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: My colleague from York Simcoe just recently asked a question to the minister of consumer protection on a consumer protection issue and she did not answer; she placed it to another minister, who is unrelated to the issue.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): That is not a point of order. As the member knows, any minister can refer a question to another minister.

USE OF QUESTION PERIOD

Mr. Ted Arnott: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: During question period this morning, you disallowed my question to the Minister of Finance. While I would never question the Chair’s impartiality or the professionalism of the table, I would again submit that my question on the obstruction of MPPs on budget day was, in fact, in order.

In my 20 years in this place, I can’t recall one instance of a question involving a matter that was before a standing committee, as you correctly stated this is, to be out of order. In fact, the matter before a standing committee is by definition a matter that is likely to be ultimately decided by the House as a whole and, as such, is business before the House.

I realize that during my question the government members started to loudly heckle and it may have been difficult for you and the table to hear exactly what I had said. That being the case, I would respectfully request that you review the relevant Hansard and reconsider your ruling.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I thank the honourable member for his point of order. The ruling of the Speaker stands, that this is a matter that is best dealt with by the committee. We will have the opportunity to come back to the House with it.

Mr. Paul Miller: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker: I’m just making the House aware that I called for a late show because I didn’t get an answer from the minister—

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I will assist the honourable member in that regard because I will be making an announcement shortly.

Mr. Paul Miller: Thank you.

VISITORS

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I’d like all members to join me in welcoming to the Legislature today Gary Malkowski, the former member from York East in the 35th Parliament. Gary was in the gallery earlier with some guests. He is in the building. Please say hello to him. Welcome today.

I’d like to take this opportunity as well to introduce and welcome the Millwood Junior School to the Legislature today. We hope that they enjoy their observations of Queen’s Park.

I’d like to take this opportunity to welcome the parents of the new member from Leeds–Grenville. They are joining us today: Cathy Clark and Horst Pijhan. Welcome, to the two of you, to Queen’s Park today.

NOTICE OF DISSATISFACTION

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Pursuant to standing order 38(a), the member for Hamilton East–Stoney Creek has given notice of his dissatisfaction to the answer to his question given by the Minister of Labour concerning the WSIB. This matter will be debated today at 6 p.m.

DEFERRED VOTES

PENSION BENEFITS

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR LES RÉGIMES DE RETRAITE

Deferred vote on the motion for third reading of Bill 236,

An Act to amend the Pension Benefits Act / Projet de loi 236, Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les régimes de retraite.

The division bells rang from 1145 to 1150.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Ms. Smith has moved third reading of Bill 236,

An Act to amend the Pension Benefits Act. All those in favour will please rise one at a time to be recorded by the Clerk.

Ayes

Aggelonitis, Sophia

Albanese, Laura

Arnott, Ted

Arthurs, Wayne

Balkissoon, Bas

Barrett, Toby

Bartolucci, Rick

Bentley, Christopher

Best, Margarett

Bradley, James J.

Broten, Laurel C.

Brown, Michael A.

Cansfield, Donna H.

Caplan, David

Chan, Michael

Chudleigh, Ted

Clark, Steve

Colle, Mike

Crozier, Bruce

Dickson, Joe

DiNovo, Cheri

Dombrowsky, Leona

Duguid, Brad

Duncan, Dwight

Elliott, Christine

Flynn, Kevin Daniel

Fonseca, Peter

Gerretsen, John

Gravelle, Michael

Hampton, Howard

Hardeman, Ernie

Horwath, Andrea

Hoskins, Eric

Hoy, Pat

Jaczek, Helena

Jeffrey, Linda

Johnson, Rick

Klees, Frank

Kormos, Peter

Kwinter, Monte

Leal, Jeff

Levac, Dave

MacLeod, Lisa

Marchese, Rosario

Martiniuk, Gerry

Matthews, Deborah

McGuinty, Dalton

McNeely, Phil

Meilleur, Madeleine

Miller, Norm

Miller, Paul

Milloy, John

Mitchell, Carol

Munro, Julia

Murray, Glen R.

Naqvi, Yasir

Orazietti, David

Ouellette, Jerry J.

Pendergast, Leeanna

Phillips, Gerry

Prue, Michael

Pupatello, Sandra

Ramal, Khalil

Ramsay, David

Rinaldi, Lou

Ruprecht, Tony

Sandals, Liz

Sergio, Mario

Shurman, Peter

Smith, Monique

Sorbara, Greg

Sousa, Charles

Sterling, Norman W.

Tabuns, Peter

Takhar, Harinder S.

Van Bommel, Maria

Wilkinson, John

Wilson, Jim

Witmer, Elizabeth

Wynne, Kathleen O.

Yakabuski, John

Zimmer, David

The Clerk of the Assembly (Ms. Deborah Deller): The ayes are 82; the nays are 0.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I declare the motion carried.

Be it resolved that the bill do now pass and be entitled as in the motion.

Third reading agreed to.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): There being no further business, this House stands recessed until 3 p.m. this afternoon.

The House recessed from 1153 to 1500.

INTRODUCTION OF VISITORS

Mr. Tony Ruprecht: I am absolutely delighted today to be able to introduce in both the east and west galleries members of the Canadian music business. They are here because they want to celebrate the accomplishments of the winners of the international singing contest. I’m delighted to introduce some people who are the backbone of this institution. They are Orlando Medeiros, Mr. Helder Costa, Mr. Joe Amorim, Andrew Amorim, Mr. Zack Werner, who is a judge in the Canadian Idol contest, and Mr. John Santos. Thank you, congratulations and the very best to you.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I’d like to welcome, in the Speaker’s gallery today, Lynn Morrison, our Integrity Commissioner, and Valerie Jepson, counsel at the Office of the Integrity Commissioner. Welcome today.

MEMBERS’ STATEMENTS

CANADA 55+ GAMES

Mr. Steve Clark: The Canada 55+ Games is a nationwide program designed to sponsor wellness among Canadians 55 years of age and older. The first national games were held in Regina in 1996. This event brings together recreational athletes who participate for the sheer joy of competition, for the opportunity to visit other parts of Canada and for the camaraderie and social interaction that are an integral and essential part of the games.

I’m honoured to say that this year from August 23 to 28 the games will be hosted in Brockville and the Thousand Islands region and will bring together nearly 2,000 participants in 23 events. These groups earn the right to compete as a result of competition against thousands of other seniors in their home province or territory. It is estimated that nearly 250,000 people 55 years of age and older are competing at the local level across Canada.

This is the first time in the games’ history that Ontario will act as host province. Event sites in 2010 include the communities of Brockville, Gananoque, Prescott, Smiths Falls and the township of Leeds and the Thousand Islands.

The games organizing committee, or GOC, has a very capable staff led by executive director Laurence Bishop and strong leadership by games chairman David Dargie. This year’s honorary chairman is none other than Senator Bob Runciman.

Congratulations to the GOC, their staff and our community for securing the games for Ontario. I’m so pleased to have the event in my riding.

ARMENIAN GENOCIDE

Mr. David Caplan: I rise today to mark the 95th anniversary of the Armenian genocide. April 24, 1915, was the start of a planned and systematic campaign to eradicate the Armenian people. One and a half million Armenian men, women and children were brutally murdered. At the time, the world community sat idle and did nothing.

The stage was set for other genocides and human tragedies. In fact, upon unveiling his final solution for the Jewish people, Adolf Hitler noted to his aides that the world would not even lift a finger because, in his words, “Who today remembers the Armenians?”

What is doubly tragic about the Armenian genocide is that today much of the world refuses to acknowledge the horrific events. The perpetrators still deny the truth.

Last month, I was truly honoured to stand in remembrance with colleagues from the Legislature and members of my community during the 95th commemoration of the Armenian genocide at the Armenian Community Centre in my riding of Don Valley East. I was proud to participate in a candlelight vigil organized by the Armenian youth of Toronto here on the grounds of the Legislative Assembly.

Recent events around the world will give members of our Legislature pause to remember the human tragedy of genocide and to give the survivors of this horror the recognition they seek and deserve.

LIBERATION OF THE NETHERLANDS

Mrs. Julia Munro: Today in Bradford, in my riding, the Dutch flag will be raised to commemorate Liberation Day, the 65th anniversary of the liberation of the Netherlands.

On May 5, 1945, Lieutenant General Charles Foulkes, commander of the First Canadian Corps, made up of Canadian and Allied troops, accepted the surrender of German forces in the Netherlands. The surrender came after months of bitter fighting against the Nazis as Allied forces advanced from Normandy to the Rhine.

We must remember that the liberation not only brought freedom but saved the lives of perhaps hundreds of thousands of Dutch people. The harsh winter of 1944-45 in the Netherlands is remembered as the Hunger Winter. Bridges and dikes were blown up, and much of the farmland was destroyed. In Amsterdam, by February 1945, the average adult lived on 580 calories a day. More than 10,000 people died directly of hunger before liberation. Many more died with hunger as a contributing cause.

Remembering these facts helps us understand the depth of feeling that people of the Netherlands demonstrate in commemorating Liberation Day and honouring the Canadian and Allied soldiers involved in the liberation.

CANADIAN HEARING SOCIETY

Mr. Michael Prue: I would like to take this opportunity to welcome the Canadian Hearing Society to the Legislature today. Earlier today you introduced former member Gary Malkowski, who was here with them as well.

We have had the pleasure in the last hour or so of meeting with their representatives to discuss the importance of visual alarms for fire and carbon monoxide detectors for culturally deaf, oral deaf, deafened and hard-of-hearing Ontarians.

Today, the Canadian Hearing Society has come to this House to seek all-party support for providing life-saving visual fire and carbon monoxide alarms that would alert those who are culturally deaf, oral deaf, deafened and hard-of-hearing in the event of an emergency, fire or carbon monoxide overload. This would obviously greatly increase safety and independence for many people across the province.

I agree with the CHS and want to state our caucus’s support for including these visual alarms under the assistive devices program so that people who need them can receive some degree of financial support. The ADP already provides support for many devices that help people live more independently. We also support amending the Ontario fire code to include visual fire alarms along with audible alarms. This is a matter of personal safety.

I would hope that the government will listen to what has to be said here today from the deaf community. I would encourage all members who have not yet had the opportunity to speak with CHS to come to the reception today at 5 o’clock and be educated on this very important initiative that they are taking.

CANADIAN PARAPLEGIC ASSOCIATION ONTARIO

Mr. Yasir Naqvi: It’s a pleasure to rise today and speak about a fantastic awareness initiative that I will be undertaking right here at Queen’s Park.

CHILDREN’S MENTAL HEALTH WEEK

Mr. John O’Toole: From May 2 to 9, Ontario observes Children’s Mental Health Week. One in five children has a mental health problem. That’s a total of half a million children facing disorders such as anxiety, depression, eating disorders, schizophrenia, bipolar and other conditions. Children’s Mental Health Week is all about increasing our awareness and understanding, while decreasing the stigma for children suffering from these conditions, as well as their families.

It is a reminder to all children and families that help is available and treatment does work. Kiosks in shopping malls, school plays, open houses, workshops and video contests are among the initiatives that will support children facing mental illness and demonstrate that Ontario cares.

I would like to pay tribute to the professionals who work in the children’s mental health field, including the agencies in my riding—Kinark Child and Family Services and Frontenac Youth Services—and in many of your ridings. These organizations help families in my riding and yours. Please support Children’s Mental Health Week, and please make children’s mental health a priority year-round.

SINGING COMPETITION

Mr. Tony Ruprecht: Both galleries are filled with people who are important to the Canadian music business. Last month, 400 guests had the great pleasure to attend the international amateur singing contest. It was a truly Canadian multicultural event. What I saw and experienced touched me deeply. The evening’s program was designed to showcase the real talent of each performer. Mr. Santos, an accomplished music director, and his wife, Lisa, set the stage for a most supportive backdrop.

John’s music lifted the spirits of the performers to such heights, which enabled all of them to soar and to shine, to give their best and to give of themselves. The audience too was thus transformed into a supportive and appreciative cast. The rhythmic music—sometimes soft, sometimes powerful, sometimes light—the colourful light and the uplifting, warm, melodious voices produced such a marvellous sound that time was forgotten and people didn’t even want to go home. Some shouted, “More, more.”

It was a truly important night to remember. These fine singers are Canada’s pride and joy. They deserve to be recognized for their enormous talent, and I would be delighted to provide some opportunity so they could launch their careers and bring joy to the lives of an even wider audience than here in Ontario.

I’m happy to introduce some of them to you and to the people of Ontario. The winner in the junior finals is Maisy Vause; second place, Marissa Gilson. The winner of the adult final category is Veronica Domingues, and in second place, Adrianne Marcucci.

We want to thank them, and we congratulate all of them, because they have achieved and done us proud.

CANADIAN HEARING SOCIETY

Mr. Wayne Arthurs: Today I have the honour of sponsoring a reception here at Queen’s Park that is being held by the Canadian Hearing Society to highlight the need for visual fire alarms. If I could, I’d like to recognize our sign language interpreters on the floor of the Legislature today as well for the work they’re doing.

Founded in 1940, the Canadian Hearing Society is the leading provider of services, products and information that remove barriers to communication, advance hearing health and promote equity for people who are culturally deaf, oral deaf, deafened and hard of hearing in Ontario.

Unique in North America, the Canadian Hearing Society offers an integral roster of essential services, including a number of health and social services, through 26 offices in Ontario.

Canadian families from coast to coast have been affected by hearing loss, and my family has been no exception. I know first-hand the difficulties that individuals and families endure because of hearing loss.

On two occasions in this House I have introduced a private member’s bill calling for the implementation of visual fire alarms, and later this month will be tabling a similar bill for the third time. In the past, this bill has had the support of all political parties and the support of the general public.

The Canadian Hearing Society is holding today’s reception to highlight the need for visual fire alarms. I ask that all of us here today attend the reception and hear and see what the introduction of visual fire alarms means to all those in Ontario who are impaired because of hearing loss

CANADA-ISRAEL RELATIONS

Mr. Monte Kwinter: Sixty years ago, on May 11, 1949, Israel and Canada established diplomatic relations and began building a fruitful co-operation. Over the years, our countries have stood by each other and have continually strengthened their commitment as partners and friends in many fields, including commerce, health, science and technology, culture, education, public safety and trade.

This past April, Canada Post issued an international rate commemorative stamp to celebrate Canada’s strong bilateral relationship with Israel. The stamp, which marks the first joint issue between Canada and Israel, had its first-day cover cancelled in both countries’ capital cities.

A key strength of Canada’s and Israel’s partnership is the extensive network of social bonds—from Canada’s large Jewish community, which stands at about 350,000, to Israeli-Canadian dual citizens—that have given rise to co-operation on many fronts, including culture, education, business and tourism.

These strong informal ties have inspired the design for the stamp, which features a group of human figures formed in the shapes of Canada’s maple leaf and Israel’s Star of David. These people come together to meet in the middle, a meeting that symbolizes and celebrates the 60 years of friendship that the two countries have shared.

What could be a more symbolic and fitting way to express 60 years of co-operation and friendship between Israel and Canada than a joint stamp issue, the merging of both countries’ paper ambassadors?

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

MEMBERS’ INTEGRITY

AMENDMENT ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT LA LOI

SUR L’INTÉGRITÉ DES DÉPUTÉS

Ms. Smith moved first reading of the following bill:

Bill 50,

An Act to amend the Members’ Integrity Act, 1994 / Projet de loi 50, Loi modifiant la Loi de 1994 sur l’intégrité des députés.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.

First reading agreed to.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): The minister for a short statement?

Hon. Monique M. Smith: I will defer my statement until we debate the bill later today.

EDUCATION AMENDMENT ACT

(PUPILS WITH DIABETES), 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 MODIFIANT

LA LOI DE L’ÉDUCATION

(ÉLÈVES DIABÉTIQUES)

Mr. Martiniuk moved first reading of the following bill:

Bill 51,

An Act to amend the Education Act to allow pupils with diabetes in schools to receive certain monitoring and treatment / Projet de loi 51, Loi modifiant la

Loi sur l’éducation pour permettre aux élèves diabétiques dans les écoles de recevoir un suivi et un traitement.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.

First reading agreed to.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): The member for a short statement?

Mr. Gerry Martiniuk: I dedicate this bill to the Bordman family and their three daughters; the twins, Jade and Brooke, having diabetes.

The bill amends the Education Act so that all staff members in an elementary or secondary school who have regular contact with pupils in the school who have or may have diabetes are required to have the necessary training to provide monitoring and treatment of those pupils. Those staff members are authorized to provide monitoring and treatment to any pupil who has or may have diabetes if they have reason to believe the pupil is suffering a medical emergency. I should add that the bill would provide protection for anyone who acts within the jurisdiction of this bill.

ALZHEIMER ADVISORY

COUNCIL ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 CRÉANT

LE CONSEIL CONSULTATIF

DE LA MALADIE D’ALZHEIMER

Mrs. Cansfield moved first reading of the following bill:

Bill 52,

An Act to establish the Alzheimer Advisory Council and develop a strategy for the research, treatment and prevention of Alzheimer’s disease and other forms of dementia / Projet de loi 52, Loi créant le Conseil consultatif de la maladie d’Alzheimer et élaborant une stratégie de traitement et de prévention de la maladie d’Alzheimer et d’autres formes de démence et de recherche en la matière.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.

First reading agreed to.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): The member for a short statement.

Mrs. Donna H. Cansfield: My co-sponsors are the member from Whitby–Oshawa and the member from Parkdale–High Park.

Dementia is a syndrome that affects a person’s ability to function and includes loss of memory, judgment and changes in mood and behaviour. Alzheimer’s disease is a progressive degenerative disease of the brain which causes thinking or memory to become impaired and may cause changes in behaviours or abilities.

Alzheimer’s disease is the most common form of dementia, accounting for 64% of all dementia in Canada. By the year 2008, we had a population of 480,600 people with this disease. As Ontario’s population ages, this will continue as we have the greatest number in our population.

Early diagnosis and treatment can lead to positive health, and many risk factors can be treated to prevent or delay. The physical, emotional and monetary costs of all forms of dementia must be addressed.

ESCAPING DOMESTIC

VIOLENCE ACT, 2010 /

LOI DE 2010 SUR LA FUITE

FACE À LA VIOLENCE FAMILIALE

Mr. Naqvi moved first reading of the following bill:

Bill 53,

An Act to amend the Residential Tenancies Act, 2006 with respect to domestic violence / Projet de loi 53, Loi modifiant la Loi de 2006 sur la location à usage d’habitation à l’égard de la violence familiale.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Is it the pleasure of the House that the motion carry? Carried.

First reading agreed to.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): The member for a short statement.

Mr. Yasir Naqvi: This bill amends the Residential Tenancies Act, 2006, to shorten the p