British Columbia Hansard — Monday, November 17, 2025 Afternoon, Issue No. 97 (43rd Parliament, 1st Session)
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British Columbia — Debates (Hansard)
First Session, 43rd Parliament
Official Report
of Debates
( Hansard )
Monday, November 17, 2025
Afternoon Sitting
Issue No. 97
The Honourable Raj Chouhan , Speaker
ISSN 1499-2175
The HTML transcript is provided for informational purposes only.
The PDF transcript remains the official digital version.
Contents
Routine Business
Introductions by Members
Members’ Statements
Marpole Museum and Historical Society
Sunita Dhir
Wilma’s Transition Society
Á’a:líya Warbus
Louis Riel Day
Garry Begg
Mary Sjostrom
Sheldon Clare
Mayo Landicho and Jendhel Sico and Canadian Filipino Online Publication
Mable Elmore
Business Excellence Awards in Prince George
Rosalyn Bird
Oral Questions
Cowichan Tribes Land Title Court Case and Property Rights
John Rustad
Hon. Niki Sharma
Waste Dumping Site on Cowichan Tribes Land
Sheldon Clare
Hon. Laanas / Tamara Davidson
B.C. First Nations Justice Strategy
Rob Botterell
Hon. Niki Sharma
RCMP Critical Response Unit Actions and Deployment
Rob Botterell
Hon. Nina Krieger
Government Handling of Land Title Cases and Property Rights
Dallas Brodie
Hon. Niki Sharma
Name Change Legislation
Kristina Loewen
Hon. Mike Farnworth
Crime and Community Safety in Abbotsford
Korky Neufeld
Hon. Nina Krieger
Bruce Banman
Deportation of Persons Related to Extortion Activities
Mandeep Dhaliwal
Hon. Nina Krieger
Safety of Lawyers and Government Action on Extortion Cases
Steve Kooner
Hon. Niki Sharma
Public Alert System for Sexual Offenders
Reann Gasper
Hon. Niki Sharma
Crime in Communities and Action on Community Safety
Peter Milobar
Hon. Niki Sharma
Tabling Documents
Office of the Auditor General, report, Ministry of Agriculture and Food: Reliability of Premises Identification Information , November 2025
Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner, annual report, 2024-25
Petitions
Bruce Banman
Jordan Kealy
Orders of the Day
Second Reading of Bills
Bill 25 — Housing and Municipal Affairs Statutes Amendment Act, 2025 (continued)
Ward Stamer
Korky Neufeld
Bryan Tepper
Harman Bhangu
Trevor Halford
Lynne Block
Jordan Kealy
Jody Toor
Sheldon Clare
Dallas Brodie
Kiel Giddens
Bruce Banman
Scott McInnis
Bill M216 — Professional Reliance Act (continued)
Proceedings in the Douglas Fir Room
Committee of the Whole
Bill 31 — Energy Statutes Amendment Act, 2025 (continued)
Hon. Adrian Dix
Larry Neufeld
Elenore Sturko
Jeremy Valeriote
Rob Botterell
David Williams
Donegal Wilson
Gavin Dew
Monday, November 17, 2025
The House met at 1:33 p.m.
[The Speaker in the chair.]
Routine Business
Introductions by Members
Hon. Ravi Parmar : Somewhere in the House — I haven’t been able to locate him yet, but maybe in the
back — is my Uncle Paul. Oh, there he is, right in front of me. Clearly, my eyes aren’t
working. He is visiting the precinct, not for the first time but the first time that
it is operating. He has been here for my swearing-in, but I told him: “You haven’t
experienced a question period yet, so you’ve got to come down.”
He is an outstanding family member, works for B.C. Ferries, I think going on almost
30 years. He’s the best sign guy a candidate could ask for. Every campaign he’ll take
time off and spend all day long putting up signs, well into the evening. He did that
when I first started off as a school trustee, and it’s continued on as an MLA. I think
so highly of him.
We are both Canucks fans, and that’s really tough. Anyone who was watching the Canucks
game last night knows that the first period didn’t go very well, but a 6-2 win over
the Lightning, so both of us were very happy when we were watching that.
Would the House please join me in making Paul Parmar feel very welcome.
[1:35 p.m.]
Sheldon Clare : I have two introductions.
The first one is to introduce a group that’s actually not present; they’re watching
us online. That is the class of Mr. Neil Walsh and education assistant Katie Bowell
at St. Ann’s Catholic School in Quesnel. They are studying politics and government.
I had the pleasure of speaking with their class last week and introducing them to
the process of making a bill by dividing them into three parties: the bicycle party,
the truck party and the car party. They had a great time with it. It was a good lively
exercise. I wanted to introduce them and welcome them to viewing us online and watching
our procedures.
If you could make them very welcome.
My second introduction is to the Invasive Species Council of British Columbia, who
are in the precinct today to discuss the concerns they have with introduced species,
whether they be flora or fauna. I welcome them to the precinct, and I hope that they
have a very fruitful and useful trip here, meeting with both opposition and government.
Hon. Spencer Chandra Herbert : Members joined us earlier today to mark Louis Riel Day, which was yesterday, but
here in the House, we marked it today with Métis Nation B.C. Thank you to all members
who joined us in the Hall of Honour.
I want to welcome, no strangers to many of us here, acting president of Métis Nation
B.C. Melanie Allard; and of course, Métis Nation B.C. leadership as well who’ve joined
her: Patrick Harriott, Susie Hooper, Debra Fisher, Colette Trudeau, Marc Riddell,
Jeremy Twigg, Kamron Bajwa, Arsalan Anwar.
There were many others, including one of the cutest babies I’ve seen, aside from my
own a few years ago.
Anyway, it’s wonderful to see you all. Thank you for joining us here in the House
to honour Riel and Métis culture. Merci.
Ward Stamer : I’m pleased to introduce my consistency assistant, Nicholas Hamson, who joins us
in the gallery today.
Nicholas is a third-year communications student at Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops,
specializing in public relations. In addition to serving the people of Kamloops–North
Thompson in my constituency office, he has worked on campaigns in both British Columbia
and the United States, with a particular passion for engaging young people in our
democratic process.
I ask the House to please join me in welcoming Nicholas to our chamber.
Hon. Jagrup Brar : History was made today. A Surrey-based radio program, Radio Swift program team came
especially to the Legislature today for a live broadcast from here to the people of
this province. They were here, I think, from 7 a.m. until 1 p.m. I know many members
from both sides got the opportunity to speak to them.
We have with us a good friend, Dr. Jasbir Romana. He’s a good friend, and he’s also
a very well-known, respected radio host. He has always been very fair, very neutral
and very objective in his approach to the talk show. I want to say thanks to him.
We also have…. I don’t think the next individual needs any introduction. Jinny Sims
is with us, former MLA and minister here. She’s now the host at Radio Swift in Surrey.
I want to wish her good luck with that.
They are joined by their team, Jashanpreet Grewal, Meninder Grewal and Supinder Grewal.
I want to say thanks to them and to Kurant Stacy and the partners for sending the
radio program here.
I want the House to please make them feel welcome.
Scott McInnis : I want to echo the Minister of Indigenous Relations and Reconciliation in welcoming
the delegation from Métis Nation B.C. here.
A big special shout-out to my friend, region 4 director from the Kootenays, Debra
Fisher, who is a fierce advocate for children and education back home in the East
Kootenay.
Welcome all of you, especially Ms. Fisher.
[1:40 p.m.]
Hon. Brittny Anderson : Today I have 17 folks from the Youth Climate Corps joining us here. After question
period, we are going to be meeting with the Premier.
The Youth Climate Corps started out in my riding, and because of the support of the
Premier and our government, it’s now expanding across British Columbia, and we are
really hoping that it is going to expand across Canada.
I would like to introduce them. We’ve got Natalie Gerum, Hermender Singh Kailley,
Donna Hall, Delie Lawley, Kate Addison, Abbey Piazza, Tracey Maynard, Tracey Mitchell,
Owen Cornell, Mikasa Quaife, Keenan Miles, Mo Garg, Jesse Seifert, Bobby Davidson,
Michaela Phillips, Aida Goma Petit and my very dear friend Ben Simoni, the executive
director.
Please will this House make them feel very welcome.
Everyone, stand.
Linda Hepner : I want to echo a welcome for radio host Jinny Sims and Dr. Jasbir Ramana from Surrey
and Swift 1200 radio as well as their team: Jashanpreet Grewal, Supinder Khatta and
Meninder Grewal.
They’ve done interviews this afternoon and this morning from both sides of the House,
and they’re very popular radio hosts in my city of Surrey.
Harwinder Sandhu : Before I do my introduction, I would like to extend my heartfelt welcome to the Radio
Swift team, their incredible team.
I’m also honoured today to welcome very special and inspiring guests in the gallery,
Dhahan Prize for Punjabi literature winners. The Dhahan Prize celebrates Punjabi language.
This prize was created to call greater attention to the wealth of literary work produced
in Punjabi around the world.
We all know we live in one of the most diverse provinces, and our mother tongues and
language are our identity, a big part of our identity, and define who we are. Once
we lose our mother tongue, our language, our identity can be jeopardized. This group
is doing amazing work to just do that, to strengthen Punjabi literature.
The guests here today I want to welcome: Mudassar Bashir, Balbir Parwana, Bhagwant
Rasulpuri, Harinder Dhahan, and Barj Dhahan, Joyce Astifan, Kuljinder Shoker, Gurtek
Shoker, Wanda Dekleva, Rai Aziz Ullah Khan, as well as Ajit Thandi and Manjit Thandi.
Would the House please join me to welcome this amazing group of people who are spreading
knowledge over ignorance and sharing hope over despair.
Ji Ayian Nu. Welcome.
Lynne Block : I was honoured this morning to have the B.C. Youth Council come in and interview
me. I’d met several of them before at one of the UN symposiums in Vancouver. The calibre
of their questions and the professionalism that they displayed really stand in good
stead. I think they will be amazing future politicians and amazing future educators,
whichever they decide to do in the future.
If you give them a warm welcome, the B.C. Youth Council. Thank you so much.
Hon. Niki Sharma : I’d like to welcome back to this place Amelia Hill. I can’t see her right now, but
she’s somewhere over here. She used to work in my office before she left for another
position.
I just want to say we miss her. We miss her spirit, her energy and all her passion
and always wish her the best and welcome her back here.
Steve Kooner : I’d also like to welcome a friend, a community leader, Barj Dhahan, who’s done exceptional
work for promoting Punjabi literature.
Can the House please welcome him again.
Hon. Randene Neill : So many amazing people in the stands today.
I just want to give a shout out, similar to the member opposite, to the Invasive Species
Council of B.C. I met with them this morning, and they were fantastic. Their local
grassroots campaigns, like squeal on pigs, do some really tremendous work. I’m really
happy with all of them.
[1:45 p.m.]
And a big shout-out to my constituency adviser from Sechelt. Lauri Paul is here today,
and her sister Lisa.
Thank you so much for coming, and thank you for the work that you do.
Hon. Jessie Sunner : I’d like to welcome to the House Susan Sanderson, who is the executive director of
the Realistic Success Recovery Society and has been a longtime advocate for mental
health and addictions in our communities.
Even more so, she’s been a very staunch advocate on our own EDA in my riding. I think
she’s been a member of our party since before I was born.
I really thank you for all the work that you do in our community and welcome you to
the House today.
Ian Paton : I want to welcome three constituents of mine from Tsawwassen. A very well-known design
company, Sarah Gallop Design…. Sarah is here with her husband, Rob, and their daughter
Maddie. She’s a student at Southpointe Academy in Tsawwassen.
They got to meet the Speaker and the Leader of the Opposition today. So happy to have
them over here. I had to pay for their lunch.
Anyways, please welcome Rob, Sarah and their daughter Maddie.
Amshen / Joan Phillip : I just wanted to wish, on this special day, my husband, Dr. Grand Chief Stuart Phillip,
and my little, well, younger brother, Georgie Carter, a happy birthday.
Susie Chant : A group of us met with Arthritis Research Canada at lunchtime today. I just want
to acknowledge their very people-centred work. The research they do, the knowledge
they share, everything that they do is completely focused on people, and for that,
I am suitably grateful.
I just want to acknowledge the folks that we listened to today: Alison Hoens, who
is a physiotherapist; Dr. Linda Li, who is the senior scientist; and Dr. Diane Lacaille,
who is the scientific director and also a constituent in my riding. I am so grateful
to have such remarkable people doing such remarkable work.
If we could all give them a hand.
Heather Maahs : I would like to take this opportunity to wish my oldest son, Gordon, a happy 45th
birthday.
Amna Shah : I just want to take a second to welcome a couple of people.
I’d like to welcome some longtime friends and dear advocates of the community, Kamron
Bajwa and Arsalan Anwar. I know we’ve known each other for a very long time. I want
to thank them for letting me know that they were here today, because I could hear
Kamron’s laughter from the front Legislature steps while I was in my office.
Thank you for that.
I also want to welcome a dear friend, Amelia Hill, who’s up in the gallery. She’s
a community builder. She’s a former colleague and a friend, and she is a reminder
to me about how love and compassion have no bounds and no limits.
Would the House join me in making them feel very welcome.
Hon. Laanas / Tamara Davidson : I have a special guest with me today in the precinct. I do apologize for her being
late for question period, but I think that you will not be surprised to know that
former MLA Jennifer Rice is joining us here today. I apologize for her tardiness,
but she does assure me she will be here today.
I also just wanted to give a shout-out to my colleague and wish him a happy belated
birthday.
George Anderson : I would like to welcome Greg Brown, Don Helgeson and Duane Seibel from Sea Wolves
Men’s Cancer Pack. This is a group of individuals who are focused on….
They’re standing up over there, just in case you want to know.
It’s a Vancouver Island–based non-profit supporting men with cancer. They’ve gone
out to bring these cancer packs to individuals. They’re advocating for funding.
I hope that the entire House will help us make them feel extremely welcome.
[1:50 p.m.]
Steve Morissette : It’s always a thrill for me to introduce somebody from my riding, because it happens
so rarely that they travel this far. I’m honoured to introduce Dr. Marcia Braundy
up in the gallery. She’s a longtime Slocan Valley resident and volunteer with our
riding association.
Across the aisle, I think we all agree that we stand on the shoulders of our volunteers.
She’s a wonderful, strong woman leader.
Please join me in welcoming Marcia today.
Hon. Ravi Parmar : I see that a good friend, Sanjeev Ahluwalia, is in the House, hanging out with the Radio Swift team. He is a
new author of a book, Reflections of a Nomadic Mind . I encourage folks to check it out. I think there is a copy in the Legislature as
well.
Would the House please join me in making him feel very welcome.
Hon. Jagrup Brar : I also would like to welcome our dear friend Nirmal Mehroke and his wife, Tejinder
Mehroke. Nirmal has served as the president of Surrey-Fleetwood riding for 15 years,
and he and his wife have been selflessly active with the riding to serve the community,
participating in programs, organizing programs, advocating for the local issues for
30 years.
They were here to attend the convention, and they’re here today to watch question
period.
I would like to ask everybody to please make them feel welcome.
Rohini Arora : I have so many friends up in the gallery today, but I wanted to just take a moment
and shout out Hermender Singh Kailley, who is the secretary-treasurer of the B.C.
Federation of Labour.
It was just his 50th birthday, so if everyone would just join me in welcoming him
and celebrating his birthday.
Harman Bhangu : I just want to wish my mom, once again, a happy birthday. It was her birthday on
Saturday.
Getting together with family, seeing her around the grandkids, all her sacrifice,
hard work…. Without that, I would not be here in this House today. So I just want
to wish her a happy birthday again.
And I love you, Mom.
Members’ Statements
Marpole Museum
and Historical Society
Sunita Dhir : I rise today to recognize the important contributions of the Marpole Museum and Historical
Society, located in the historic Colbourne House in my constituency of Vancouver-Langara.
For more than five decades, the society has helped preserve and share the many layers
of Marpole’s history, from the deep and enduring presence of the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm people to the stories of early settlers, tradespeople and families who shaped the
neighbourhood we know today. Their work ensures that Marpole’s past is not only remembered
but understood as part of our collective story.
During my visits to the museum, I have been truly inspired by the dedication of its
volunteers, their efforts in restoring exhibits, maintaining the heritage home, curating
artifacts and engaging visitors. They reflect remarkable commitment and care. Colbourne
House, lovingly maintained, offers a rare and tangible window into Marpole’s early
20th-century life and reminds us of how far our city has come.
Recently I had the pleasure of attending the society’s annual Christmas market. The
event was filled with creativity, warmth and community spirit, with neighbours gathering,
local artisans showcasing their work and volunteers welcoming everyone with open hearts.
It was a beautiful example of how community heritage is kept alive not only through
artifacts but through connections.
I would like everybody to check out this remarkable place at the corner of Southwest
Marine Drive and 71st Avenue and experience a piece of Marpole’s amazing living history.
[1:55 p.m.]
Wilma’s Transition Society
Á’a :líya Warbus : Today I rise to acknowledge and honour the incredible work of Wilma’s Transition
Society. This is an organization that has supported women and children in the Fraser
Valley for nearly 40 years.
Wilma’s was founded on a simple but powerful belief that all women deserve safe, dignified
opportunities to build a prosperous life. Nearly four decades later that belief continues
to guide everything that they do.
From emergency shelter to longer-term supportive housing, Wilma’s provides a continuum
of care that meets women where they’re at and walks with them as they move toward
healing and stability. Their programs are trauma-informed, culturally grounded and
deeply rooted in and with community support.
Last week I had the honour of touring their newest development, P’esk’a La:lem, a
stage 3 housing building built exclusively for women and their children to continue
to thrive and remain connected to important supports. I was guided by the executive
director, Tammy, whose leadership and dedication have helped expand essential services
for these women and their families.
This represents more than housing in our community. It’s a place of cultural connection
and empowerment. It reflects Wilma’s ongoing commitment to providing culturally informed
supports, honouring women’s existing strengths and building permanent pathways to
long-term success. Through the dedication of service and decades of existence in our
community, they’ve helped countless women and children escape violence, overcome homelessness
and rebuild their lives with courage and hope. Their impact is felt across generations.
In a time when legal organizations like Rise Women’s is calling for more secure housing
options for women who are trying to flee domestic violence, we really need places
like Wilma’s and their continued work to be supported by all members of this House.
I just want to thank Wilma’s Transition Society today, and I look forward to continuing
and supporting their vital work in our community.
Louis Riel Day
Garry Begg : I recognize that we are gathered today on the territory of the lək̓ʷəŋən People, known today as the Songhees and Esquimalt First Nations.
Yesterday, on November 16, people across British Columbia and Canada gathered to recognize
Louis Riel Day, marking the anniversary of his death in 1885. This year, the 140th
anniversary of his death, reminds us that his story remains central to our shared
history.
Louis Riel was a tireless advocate for the Métis Nation and one of Canada’s most significant
historical leaders. He is remembered as the founder of Manitoba, a defender of rights
and a Canadian hero whose vision continues to shape our country.
I acknowledge the Métis Nation British Columbia delegation who are with us here today,
led by acting president, Melanie Allard.
Your presence is a powerful reminder of the living legacy of Riel’s work and the strength
of the Métis people in this province.
Recognizing Louis Riel is part of our ongoing path with Métis people in this province
toward meaningful reconciliation. It’s a time to reflect on historic and present-day
injustices faced by Métis and all Indigenous Peoples and to honour the nearly 98,000
Métis people in B.C. who contribute to the vitality of our communities.
We also recognize the incredible organizations that support Métis people across the
province, including Métis Nation B.C., Métis Community Services Society of B.C., Métis
Commission for Children and Families of B.C. and the British Columbia Association
of Aboriginal Friendship Centres. Their dedication and community service are invaluable
as we continue moving forward together.
Louis Riel Day is not only a solemn tribute but also a celebration of Métis culture,
resilience and identity. His courage and legacy call on us all to learn, reflect and
stand alongside Métis people in advancing reconciliation.
[2:00 p.m.]
Mary Sjostrom
Sheldon Clare : It is with great sadness that I rise today to remember my friend Mary Sjostrom, Cariboo
regional director for area A and former mayor of Quesnel. Mary was a tireless advocate
for the North, someone with tremendous empathy and institutional memory, having been
in public service in the Quesnel area for decades.
Her recent roles included Cariboo regional district director for Red Bluff, south
Quesnel; Cariboo Chilcotin hospital district vice-chair; as well as sitting on the
finance, policy, emergency preparedness, solid waste management, Fraser Basin Council
and NDIT regional advisory committees.
First elected in 1999, Mary would go on to serve 15 years on Quesnel city council,
including six years as mayor. She also served as director and president of the North
Central Local Government Association and the Union of British Columbia Municipalities,
and she was a life member of both organizations.
Community volunteer work included the palliative care association, Quesnel Sunrise
Rotary, B.C. Winter Games, Relay for Life and the Quesnel Community Foundation. A
memorable contribution Mary made was championing the Quesnel Communities in Bloom
team to highlight the beauty of the city of Quesnel.
I first met Mary when we both served on the board of governors at the College of New
Caledonia. We became strong colleagues and friends. It was an honour to work with
her in various capacities, but most of all over the past year in my role as MLA. My
office and I were in frequent contact with Mary as we worked through the various issues
facing our constituents.
Mary’s contributions to our community, province and country are profound, and her
death is a great loss for us all.
We thank you, Mary.
My condolences, Butch. Mary will not be forgotten.
Mayo Landicho and Jendhel Sico
and Canadian Filipino
Online Publication
Mable Elmore : I wish to share a story about grief, healing and hope. Mayo Landicho, a celebrated
multimedia artist, was one of the performers who graced the stage at the Lapu-Lapu
Day festival in Vancouver on April 26, 2025.
Little did Mayo know that that day would end in immense grief. His goddaughter Jendhel
Sico, a talented young woman, was killed in the horrific tragedy.
After her funeral, Mayo gathered her family and close friends at his tattoo studio
on Main Street. He closed the shop for the day and transformed the space for a private
memorial. As Jendhel’s favourite songs filled the studio, Mayo tattooed members of
her family, etching on their bodies the memory of her beautiful soul.
It was Mayo’s tribute to his goddaughter and a therapy. Honouring his goddaughter
through his art was his own way of beginning the journey to healing.
This story was originally told in the new edition of the online-only publication canadianfilipino.net.
It’s part of the all-volunteer journal’s ongoing storytelling series called “Healing
Through Kapwa.” The series seeks to tell stories of healing and resilience and to
build solidarity within and outside the Filipino community. The series is a demonstration
of canadianfilipino.net’s continuing work to reflect the voices and aspirations of
Filipinos in British Columbia and across Canada.
The online-only publication started in 2016 and is managed by the Maple Bamboo Network
Society. The board of the Maple Bamboo Network Society includes, among others, Rey
Pagtakhan, who was the first Filipino to be elected as Member of Parliament in Canada;
Eleanor Laquian, an author and advocate of immigrant rights; and Emmy Buccat, a professional
in the fields of communication, marketing and events management.
Let us recognize the work being done by canadianfilipino.net for their continuing
contributions to journalism and for promoting dialogue and understanding.
Business Excellence Awards
in Prince George
Rosalyn Bird : I rise today to recognize the outstanding achievement celebrated at the 40th annual
Business Excellence Awards hosted by Prince George Chamber of Commerce on November
1. This milestone event once again highlighted the strength, innovation and resilience
of small and medium-sized businesses in our region.
SMEs continue to be the backbone of our economy, representing more than 98 percent
of all Canadian businesses and employing 70 percent of our workforce. In Prince George,
their role is even more profound. These businesses are run by our neighbours, our
friends and our families. They create opportunities, drive local innovation and help
shape the character of our community.
[2:05 p.m.]
The awards ceremony showcases just how dedicated our local entrepreneurs are, across
every sector from food and beverage to technological innovation, entertainment, philanthropy
and more. Each nominee and recipient demonstrated the kind of leadership that keeps
northern British Columbia moving forward.
I want to offer special acknowledgement to the Prince George Citizen , honoured with the Lifetime Achievement Award. The Citizen has served as a pillar of local journalism, documenting our history, amplifying community
voices and ensuring that the stories of Prince George are told with accuracy, integrity
and care. This recognition reflects the profound and enduring impact the Citizen has had on our region.
As we celebrate these accomplishments, we must also recognize that small and medium
businesses continue to face significant challenges. Yet they consistently show up
for our communities.
It is vital that we continue to champion and support their work in every way we can
by reducing barriers and ensuring access to the tools they need to help create an
environment where small and medium businesses can continue to thrive not just in Prince
George but across British Columbia.
The Business Excellence Awards remind us that when we invest in our local business,
we invest in the prosperity and future of our entire community.
Oral Questions
Cowichan Tribes Land Title
Court Case and Property Rights
John Rustad : The Premier tells British Columbians he wants to protect homeowners, yet somehow
private property rights in the Cowichan case were not argued by B.C. He says the appeal
is only about, and I quote, “clarity.”
There is some clarity that the Premier could provide for the people of British Columbia.
Cabinet, no doubt, has received legal advice likely warning its government to defend
private property rights in court.
Will the Premier waive cabinet confidentiality and make public any legal opinions
he or his cabinet received regarding private property rights in the Cowichan case,
yes or no?
Hon. Niki Sharma : I have to confess it’s a strange request, given that all of our legal documents and
our arguments are on the public record and filed for everybody about the arguments
we made in that case.
I just want to assure the public, as I do every time I stand up here and speak about
this, that we’re taking this very seriously, including the protection of private property
owners. We have a team of lawyers that are on top of it and working not only with
the Cowichan but also with the landowners themselves, directly engaging with them
so we can understand the impacts and where the province needs to step in.
We’re also actively engaging in our appeal and a stay application on the matter.
The Speaker : Leader of the Official Opposition, supplemental.
John Rustad : Well, I find it interesting, considering the legal advice that goes to cabinet comes
from her ministry, that she isn’t even aware of it. I think that is very telling in
terms of what legal advice their cabinet may or may not have received in terms of
the Cowichan case.
However, the Premier tells Indigenous leaders this appeal “isn’t really about the
Cowichan” while he tells homeowners that they should “rightly be worried.” Just like
private property and Aboriginal title can’t coexist, does he really believe that both
of these other statements he made are true?
If the Premier truly believes in transparency, will he come clean with the taxpayers
and publicly declare exactly why he decided to leave the protection of private property
rights up to Richmond, and Richmond alone, as per what the judge has said in her findings?
Hon. Niki Sharma : Again, I’ve said this over and over again. We’ve said this publicly and it’s in all
of our legal steps that it was very important to us that we uphold the private property
rights of landowners as we’ve worked through the difficult issues of reconciliation
with our First Nations governments, and we’ve been doing that.
I invite the member to take a look at our arguments that were at the Supreme Court
of B.C. and what we were pursuing on appeal and the work that we’re doing and also
when he was in cabinet in 2015 and issued the first response to civil claim in this
matter. The arguments that we made are very similar to ones at that stage.
Waste Dumping Site on
Cowichan Tribes Land
Sheldon Clare : In late 2023, Sperling Hansen Associates conducted an environmental assessment of
the Cowichan River toxic waste pile and estimated it at nearly 300,000 cubic metres.
[2:10 p.m.]
There is no way that this report didn’t end up on previous minister George Heyman’s desk.
Can the Environment Minister please confirm whether or not her ministry received this
report?
Hon. Laanas / Tamara Davidson : Thank you to the member for the question.
We’ve heard people’s concerns about this site, and we are listening. That’s why we
issued a pollution prevention order on October 2, 2025, with the awareness of the
Cowichan Tribes. We take this matter very seriously.
Interjection.
The Speaker : Shhh.
Hon. Laanas / Tamara Davidson : We will be verifying compliance with the pollution prevention order at the site.
We believe in working together with the Cowichan Tribes, in working on the pollution
abatement order and the pollution orders that we issue.
The Speaker : Member has supplemental.
Sheldon Clare : Three hundred thousand cubic metres is an awful lot of waste. There is no way that
this government was not aware of that.
Can you please tell me: when did this government know about this waste, and why was
it not acted on sooner?
Hon. Laanas / Tamara Davidson : Thank you again to the member for your questions.
I have to disagree. We have a variety of tools that we use in the Ministry of Environment.
We use these tools to protect the environment and look at illegal waste dumps.
The responsibility of the cleanup rests with the polluter. As the province, our role
here is to ensure that those cleanups are done. We will continue to do this work with
the Cowichan Tribes and with all of our community members.
B.C. First Nations Justice Strategy
Rob Botterell : In British Columbia, Indigenous women make up 4 percent of the population, yet 49
percent, or roughly one in two, women in provincial custody are Indigenous. Public
Safety Canada tells us that it costs over $250,000 per year to incarcerate an Indigenous
woman and almost $150,000 to incarcerate an Indigenous man. Imagine what redirecting
even a fraction of those funds could do if invested instead in vocational training,
education, food security and stable housing.
This government committed to implementing the B.C. First Nations justice strategy
in 2020. It is intended to lead to better outcomes in the justice system for Indigenous
people.
To the Attorney General, when will this government fully implement the B.C. First
Nations justice strategy and protect Indigenous people from unjust incarceration and
police aggression?
Hon. Niki Sharma : I just want to thank the member for the question. It allows me to talk about some
very important work that we’re doing with the First Nations Justice Council.
In a short amount of time, we were able to open up 15 Indigenous justice centres across
the province. Those centres are made up of really strong Indigenous leaders and legal
counsel that are there to represent Indigenous people that are facing charges in the
criminal justice system in order to help them with, I think, what the member is raising,
a very important concern and commitment we have to mitigate against the overrepresentation
of Indigenous people in our justice system and the systemic racism that exists when
they face the criminal justice system.
They are doing incredible work. My hands go out to all of those people on the front
lines in Indigenous justice centres that every day are working through files with
Indigenous people and Indigenous women, with results. We have just launched a Prince
George diversion centre that’s there to help young people with their first offence
that’s a minor offence and connect them with their culture so we can change their
lives in partnership with Indigenous communities.
I’m really proud of that work. I know it takes a lot of effort, and my hands go up
to the First Nations Justice Council for helping partner with us on that work.
The Speaker : Member, supplemental.
[2:15 p.m.]
RCMP Critical Response Unit
Actions and Deployment
Rob Botterell : Clearly, as the Attorney General mentioned, the government may say it’s committed
to safeguarding Indigenous people from an unjust system, yet we continue to see the
province promote policing practices that further this violence.
For example, the RCMP’s controversial and heavily criticized critical response unit
will be enforcing this government’s new fast-tracked resource and infrastructure projects.
This unit is being deployed despite the RCMP’s own investigation into its abuse of
force and authority both in Fairy Creek and in Wet’suwet’en territory. The RCMP have
admitted that this unit overstepped its authority, yet still this government sees
its deployment fit.
To the Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General, why is this government authorizing
the deployment of the CRU, and how does this government plan on deploying this unit
against First Nations opposition to projects such as Ksi Lisims?
Hon. Nina Krieger : I’d like to thank the member opposite for the question, which speaks to, I think,
shared concerns that we have around not only the overrepresentation of Indigenous
people in the justice system but about ensuring that law enforcement does their work
in a culturally informed and safe way for vulnerable communities, particularly First
Nations.
This is why our ministry works in partnership with the Ministry of the Attorney General
on the Indigenous justice strategy and on closely working with police, including the
RCMP. My ministry meets with representatives of First Nations communities on a regular
basis — including, most recently at the First Nations Leadership Gathering — to hear
directly about any concerns about the RCMP so that in the work of superintendence,
my ministry can work with law enforcement very directly to ensure that communities,
Indigenous communities, are safe.
Government Handling of Land Title
Cases and Property Rights
Dallas Brodie : For four years, the Kamloops Indian Band has been pretending to have found the remains
of 215 murdered children, perpetuating the worst lie in Canadian history. Instead
of defending British Columbians from this baseless allegation of mass murder, the
Premier, who I see is not here today….
The Speaker : Member. Member, we don’t identify members who are here or not.
Dallas Brodie : Retracted, Mr. Speaker.
The Premier lashes out at anyone who dares to question the claim. Now the very same
band is advancing an Aboriginal title claim over the entire city of Kamloops, a land
grab that threatens the private homes of 100,000 private residents. I condemn this
band’s outrageous and opportunistic claim, and I pledge my full support to the innocent
and hard-working people of Kamloops.
My question to the Premier is this. Whose side is he on, the homeowners of B.C. or
the tribes seizing title to their properties?
Hon. Niki Sharma : I find myself often at a loss for words when this member raises what is a very painful
and shameful line of denialism for residential schools.
Interjection.
The Speaker : Shhh.
Hon. Niki Sharma : On behalf of survivors in this House, I want to condemn that.
Interjection.
The Speaker : Please continue.
Hon. Niki Sharma : We stand on the side of survivors that are searching for the truth and searching
for us to stand with them in pursuit of that truth. We will continue to do that every
day.
I don’t even know how to answer the rest of that question. Maybe I’ll leave it at
this. The history of this province and the work that we have to do on reconciliation
is rooted in us coming to the table and sitting down with our First Nations partners
to resolve the historic wrongs of the past and build a future for everybody in this
province that lifts everybody up. We’re committed to that work and will continue to
do so.
The Speaker : The Leader of the Official Opposition, supplemental.
[2:20 p.m.]
Dallas Brodie : It is obvious that this government won’t defend the private homes of British Columbians.
It’s obvious from the very arguments that were made in the Cowichan case, where the
best and strongest argument was pulled deliberately by the former then AG.
Neither will our courts defend the private properties of British Columbians. The disaster
in Richmond was the inevitable result of nearly 50 years of court rulings that expanded
Aboriginal title. Why would they stop now?
Just like our Premier, they believed that it was an unforgivable sin for our founders
to assume control over these lands and create a fee simple title system. Just like
our Premier, they planned to give away citizens’ money, land and power to tribal chiefs
forever to pay for that sin.
My question for the Premier is this. Will he agree that Aboriginal title is an insult
to our founders and an existential threat to B.C. and its economy which must be removed
from Canada’s constitution?
Hon. Niki Sharma : I’ve answered this question already.
Name Change Legislation
Kristina Loewen : This weekend delegates to the B.C. NDP convention voted to completely repeal this
government’s changes to the Name Act.
When defending his own bill, the Minister of Energy said: “Allowing dangerous offenders
to hide their identity through a legal name change is extremely troubling to victims
and their family and can result in safety concerns for members of the public.” Yet
nobody in the NDP caucus defended their bill.
Why didn’t the Premier stand up at the B.C. NDP convention and defend legislation
that keeps British Columbians safe?
Hon. Mike Farnworth : I thank the member for the question.
I’m happy to let the member know that the Premier has made it clear that if there
are unintended consequences to the piece of legislation that the member is raising,
we will address those. But one thing is absolutely clear. We will not allow those
who commit criminal acts to escape their criminal record by changing their name. That’s
plain and simple.
Though I must admit I do find it somewhat interesting, when the member talks about
reactions at party conventions, about their own party convention.
Interjections.
The Speaker : Shhh.
Hon. Mike Farnworth : When the opposition leader used his speech to attack Elections B.C. and Dr. Bonnie
Henry, no one spoke against that. When a guest speaker unfairly attacked a member
of the press gallery, the delegates stood and applauded, and not one member on that
side of the House stood up.
We’ve made it clear. We will deal with unintended consequences, but let’s be also
clear….
Interjections.
The Speaker : Stop it, Members. Come to order. Come to order.
Hon. Mike Farnworth : Those who commit a criminal act are not going to be allowed to escape their record
by changing their name.
Crime and Community
Safety in Abbotsford
Korky Neufeld : Last Wednesday, November 12, another Abbotsford shooting. Bullets sprayed a business’s
window on King Road. The ninth shooting since September 1 in Abbotsford alone, and
still no charges in any of these cases.
This past Sunday, yesterday, I attended the funeral of a well-respected businessman
that our community is still mourning. Not a single NDP MLA showed up.
Can the Minister of Public Safety promise that no more Abbotsford families will have
to mourn another senseless loss before Christmas, yes or no?
[2:25 p.m.]
Hon. Nina Krieger : Thank you to the member opposite for the question.
I’d like to start out by expressing my sincerest condolences to Mr. Sahsi’s family,
his workers and the entire community affected by the good works that he has done.
I had a chance to attend a vigil for Mr. Sahsi held in Surrey that also served as
an opportunity for different levels of government to come together and speak about
the work that is being done to combat extortion and to keep communities safe.
I’ve had the chance to engage with business owners and with families who are scared,
which underscores our singular focus on disrupting these crimes, stopping these crimes
and keeping members of the community safe. It’s this that is behind the work of the
B.C. extortion task force, which represents one of the largest task forces ever assembled
in B.C. history.
It includes all levels of the RCMP, the police of jurisdiction, including Abbotsford.
It includes members from the CFSEU, the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit.
It includes members from the Canada Border Service Agency.
We are starting to see real results from their work, which is coordinated and comprehensive,
including arrests, charges and removals from Canada, in accordance with laws. This
government and my ministry will not rest until those perpetrating these crimes are
held to account and our communities are safe.
Bruce Banman : Thank you very much to the Solicitor General.
You know, condolences. This family wrote a letter. They don’t need your condolences;
they need your action. That’s what they need.
Abbotsford ranks the third-highest in Canada for extortion-related incidents and No.
1 per capita. Families and businesses are being targeted, threatened and traumatized.
I’ve received the personal phone calls.
When will this Premier come to Abbotsford, look people in the eye and tell them when
the shootings will stop?
Hon. Nina Krieger : Thank you to the member opposite for the question. I do extend my condolences.
The fear of families, of business owners, of community members is real, which is why
our government is singular in its focus and leading the way in Canada with our B.C.
extortion task force and with the involvement of Canada Border Service Agency. Other
jurisdictions, which are wrestling with these same crimes in Alberta and Ontario,
are now looking at B.C. as a model. We will continue to….
Interjections.
The Speaker : Members. Members.
Shhh, Members. Shhh, Members.
Hon. Nina Krieger : I’d appreciate the opportunity to answer.
We are leading the way in Canada in terms of the work of the B.C. extortion task force,
in terms of the advocacy that our government has done, which has led to the Bishnoi
group being designated a terrorist organization, and in terms of the leadership we
have demonstrated on bail and sentencing reform. We will continue to do this work
through all levels of government.
I must also take this opportunity to urge….
Interjection.
Hon. Nina Krieger : This is really important, sir.
Interjections.
The Speaker : Shhh, Members.
The minister will conclude, please.
Hon. Nina Krieger : I would like to take this opportunity to thank members of the community that have
come forward with information, which is directly supporting investigations in progress,
and to encourage everybody with information, no matter how small, as soon as they
have it to come forward to police. This is making a difference in the investigations
and leading to arrests and removals.
We will not stop this work until people are safe.
Deportation of Persons
Related to Extortion Activities
Mandeep Dhaliwal : Yesterday I was at Darshan Singh Sahsi’s funeral. I am sick and tired of going to
these kinds of funerals.
We have heard that the three extortion suspects are deported.
Why is this NDP government hiding the reason and their identities?
[2:30 p.m.]
Hon. Nina Krieger : Thank you very much for the question, and thank you to the member for referencing
the work of Canada Border Service Agency, which is an integral partner in….
Interjections.
The Speaker : Members, let the minister answer, please.
Members, come to order.
Please continue.
Hon. Nina Krieger : The suggestion that we are withholding names or protecting criminals, frankly, is
absurd and is stoking fear, which is not helping the situation.
Interjections.
The Speaker : Members.
Hon. Nina Krieger : CBSA is a federal agency, a key member of the task force, but Ottawa sets the rules
and controls this information. The province does not have these names and cannot access
or release federal immigration information.
I have heard from community members who have let me know how important it is to have
information, such as names, that they are asking for. I have to maintain, though,
the integrity of investigations under way, because we want….
Interjection.
The Speaker : Members.
Hon. Nina Krieger : It’s imperative that the investigation is under way, that the integrity is protected,
because we want it to lead to arrests, charges and convictions or removals from Canada
if people are not in the country lawfully.
We will continue to work with our federal partners regarding anything related to immigration
and CBSA.
Interjection.
The Speaker : Member, let the Chair recognize you.
Safety of Lawyers and
Government Action on
Extortion Cases
Steve Kooner : This government is not leading. It’s being reactive, not proactive. This extortion
crisis is out of control.
Lawyers are now being targeted. And if lawyers are being targeted, it’s important
to know whether judges and witnesses are also being targeted.
Can this minister tell this House with absolute certainty that no judges and witnesses
in B.C. have been targeted, yes or no?
Hon. Niki Sharma : These investigations are ongoing, and it’s important, in order to keep the integrity
of the system, that those names and who is part of those investigations are not revealed
here. It’s not going to further anybody’s interest to do so.
I want everybody to know that we are taking this very, very seriously. I take the
opportunity to what the member raised this weekend, calling on the federal government,
which we have advocated for specific changes, to consider extortion a terrorist charge.
I was surprised when he raised that, because had he looked at the Criminal Code or
looked at what we have raised with the federal government, declaring the Bishnoi gang
a terrorist organization…. If he would have looked through that, he would know that
because of the work that we were doing…. Anything that’s committed on behalf of a
terrorist group is a terrorist offence, including extortion.
We are doing the work to make sure that our Criminal Code and everything is there
for us to go after these people.
Public Alert System for
Sexual Offenders
Reann Gasper : A woman in Abbotsford is now facing 13 sex offence charges, including luring and
trafficking a minor. While she was at large, parents had no warning at all.
Mothers like me are terrified for our children’s safety in this province.
Will the minister commit today to issuing immediate public alerts when a child sex
offender is wanted, yes or no?
Hon. Niki Sharma : I appreciate this very important issue that’s raised by this member. The police have
certain criteria that they employ when they issue alerts to communities, and those
alerts and those decisions made by the police are there to make sure that communities
are safe.
Certainly, every time there’s an issue like this raised, we take it with the utmost
seriousness, and I know that my colleague at Public Safety does as well, to make sure
that communities have the information they need and that people are safe.
[2:35 p.m.]
We are doing a lot of work on this side of the House when it comes to going after
sexual assault, going after offenders, whether it’s online or in communities, because
we want to make sure that the people that are committing these offences are properly
behind bars and that people are protected from further instances of their crime, and
we’ll continue to do that work.
Crime in Communities and
Action on Community Safety
Peter Milobar : Well, the government keeps saying that they’re working to make communities safer,
but the bottom line is that communities are not safer. In fact, they are more unsafe
than ever before under this government’s watch.
If you look at things around the extortion cases, this government is very quick to
try to take credit for things — action being taken, people being deported; yet as
soon as they get asked for any detail on that, they instantly refer back to: “Well,
that’s federal. That’s federal jurisdiction. We can’t actually talk about that.” So
did they actually do anything, or did the CBSA, which is federal jurisdiction, actually
do something for a change because this government’s inaction has led to ever-growing
extortion issues in British Columbia?
We hear about sexual predators on the loose and deflection away — that they can’t
really take extra steps.
In Kamloops, businesses are reporting a 26 percent surge in crime, while the Public
Safety Minister says they’re doing everything they can do to try to keep communities
safe. Businesses are losing millions of dollars a year of merchandise walking out
the door, and they very clearly attribute it to the chaos being driven by a convergence
of mental health, housing, the affordability crisis and catch and release, because
property crimes are not taken seriously by this government.
They’re calling on the government for hands-on street management and real health care
integration, because they have failed, to this point, in keeping our streets safe.
When will people, when will the business community in this province stop hearing that
the government is working on something and start hearing about the government implementing
and actually delivering results that, as the Premier said, people would actually be
able to see and feel on the streets? Because they’re not safer. It is getting worse.
Hon. Niki Sharma : I’m happy to talk about results — the results that we’re showing for British Columbians
on a very important issue that’s out there, and that’s public safety.
The ReVOII program, the repeat violent offender initiative, that’s circling around
over 400 of the most violent offenders…
Interjections.
The Speaker : Members, please.
Hon. Niki Sharma : …in the system and going from an individual who is responsible for hundreds of calls
to the police a month to none. That’s a result in a community.
I want to talk a little bit, also, about the bail and sentencing reform that we put
on the agenda through B.C.’s leadership that is dealing with the types of property
crime that the member is raising, saying that if somebody is coming before this justice
system over and over again, there needs to be respect for the law. Those individuals
need to have accountability. So right in there, in the bill that’s before the House
and the federal government, is B.C.’s work reflected in that Criminal Code change
to make sure that those people that are causing the most impacts on communities are
held and not causing those impacts.
We’ll keep at it until all communities feel safe in this province.
[End of question period.]
Tabling Documents
The Speaker : Hon. Members, I have the honour to table the Auditor General’s report Ministry of Agriculture and Food: Reliability of Premises Identification Information , and the Police Complaint Commissioner’s annual report, 2024-2025.
Petitions
Bruce Banman : I stand today to present a petition from very concerned members of my community,
whereas B.C. Housing is planning a supportive housing project at 2270 Martens Street
in Abbotsford, directly across from Abbotsford Traditional school grounds.
The housing project will be in proximity to vulnerable students, children aged 11
to 18, less than 60 metres from a field and playgrounds used by said children. The
housing project contains a safe consumption room, increasing the risk to residents
and vulnerable children in the area, and there has been a lack of transparency, public
input, consideration of alternative locations, collaboration or disclosure of plans
by B.C. Housing.
Lynne Block : I request leave.
The Speaker : For what are you asking leave, Member?
Lynne Block : I’d like to make an introduction that I made earlier.
Leave granted.
The Speaker : Please, proceed.
Introductions by Members
Lynne Block : In the introductions, I introduced the B.C. Youth Council, and I wasn’t sure if they
were in the House. They are now.
I’d like you to stand and receive a warm welcome.
They were absolutely professional.
[2:40 p.m.]
Petitions
Jordan Kealy : I’d like to present a petition from my community of Fort St. John. They’ve gathered
this petition to be brought forward.
This is a tough one, when it comes to…. They’re requesting to reduce the costs and
increase access to innovative cancer drugs by lowering drug prices and guaranteeing
access. Lighten the load for patients and families by reducing additional costs for
cancer care, including lab fees, transportation, prosthetics, treatments, incontinence
products, cooling caps and more.
This was brought to me from a member of my community, Justin Hupanda. He is a member
of the Canadian Cancer Society. He also said that he really appreciated that Bill
30 got brought forward and that he was happy to see it proceed through the House.
Orders of the Day
Hon. Mike Farnworth : In this chamber, I call second reading on Bill 25, the Housing and Municipal Affairs
Statutes Amendment Act.
Then in
Section A, the Douglas Fir Room, I call committee stage on Bill 31, Energy
Statutes Amendment Act.
[Lorne Doerkson in the chair.]
Second Reading of Bills
Bill 25 — Housing and Municipal
Affairs Statutes Amendment Act, 2025
(continued)
Deputy Speaker : Thank you, Members. We’ll call the House back to order, where we will be continuing
debate on Bill 25, Housing and Municipal Affairs Statutes Amendment Act, 2025.
Ward Stamer : I rise today on behalf of the B.C. Conservative caucus to speak firmly, clearly and
unapologetically against Bill 25, the housing and municipal standards amendment act,
2025, a bill that pretends to be about solving the housing crisis but, in truth, centralizes
power, weakens local democracy, exposes municipalities to fiscal instability and prioritizes
provincial control over real community needs.
This legislation is yet another example of government that governs by decree rather
than by collaboration, a government that demands compliance from local governments
while ignoring the lived realities of the communities they claim to help. Bill 25
continues a disturbing pattern. Instead of working with municipalities, the government
has chosen to legislate over them.
This bill expands the minister’s ability to dictate development standards, override
municipal bylaws and impose one-size-fits-all requirements in Victoria. This Premier
can say whatever slogan he wishes about cutting red tape or turbocharging housing,
but what this bill actually does is strip communities of their decision-making processes
and authority that allows them to respond to unique local conditions.
Local councils are elected by their neighbours. They understand the transportation
networks, their water capacity, their fire response coverage and their school availability.
But Victoria does not. Bill 25 tells local governments: “You can zone what we say,
where we say and when we say. Your planning priorities no longer matter.” This is
not partnership. This is not collaboration. This is central planning, and British
Columbians know where that leads.
The most irresponsible aspect of this bill is its assumption that growth can be mandated
without first ensuring infrastructure capacity exists. Transportation, sewer, stormwater,
fire protection, policing — these systems do not magically expand because the province
legislates more density.
[2:45 p.m.]
Municipalities have warned government repeatedly that they cannot absorb the population
growth at the acceleration levels being imposed through Bills 44, 47 and now 25. Yet
Bill 25 introduced new ministerial directives, new mandatory zoning alignments and
a deeper reach into municipal land use authority without offering municipalities the
fiscal tools to keep up.
The result? Cities will be forced to approve housing they cannot service. Developers
will build faster than municipalities can upgrade pipes, roads and public safety.
And residents existing in future will be left dealing with the fallout of overloaded
infrastructure and declining service quality.
This is not planning; this is wishful thinking codified into law. This government
loves to lecture municipalities about doing their part, but it quietly ignores the
critical truth. You cannot build or maintain infrastructure with provincial press
releases.
Bill 25 deepens municipal exposure to financial risk by forcing accelerated development
approvals without providing new revenue streams to pay for that servicing; restricting
municipalities’ ability to charge development cost charges, commonly known as DCCs,
and community amenity contributions in ways that reflect the actual needs and costs
of those projects; and also imposing provincial housing targets that may not align
with long-term capital plans.
So what does this actually mean on the ground? It means property tax payers, the families
that are struggling most with affordability, will pay for growth that they didn’t
choose and that the province won’t fund.
The B.C. Conservatives believe in local fiscal authority and responsibility, not setting
municipalities up for failure. One of the greatest fallacies in this government’s
approach is the benefit that all communities are the same. A small rural municipality
cannot absorb the same density expectations as a major urban centre. A mountain community
with limited buildable land cannot conform to the same zoning formulas as a flat,
suburban municipality. A community with wildfire risks, floodplains or a limited water
supply cannot simply scale up when Victoria says so.
But Bill 25 ignores this. It assumes that every municipality must bend to a provincially
crafted development model, regardless of geography, climate resilience, cultural context
or community capacity. This is not thoughtful. This is not evidence-based. It is ideological,
and it lacks forward thinking.
The government claims that Bill 25 will improve affordability. Let us be very clear.
Nothing in this bill guarantees any affordable housing. It does not require developers
to build affordable units. It does not address speculation on the concentration of
land ownership. It does not provide protections for renters beyond market exposure.
It does not reduce construction costs, taxes or regulatory fees.
What it does do is increase land value expectations, and it will also push home prices
and rents higher, not lower. Every time the province imposes mandatory upzoning, the
assessed value of land in those zones jumps. That increase is captured not by the
renters, not by first-time buyers and certainly not by the municipalities but by speculators
and large development firms. This government is unintentionally inflating land markets
while claiming to fight them.
Our caucus, the B.C. Conservative Party, believes strongly in subsidiarity, the principle
that decisions should be made at the lowest level possible. Again, allowing our municipalities
to do the job that they were elected to.
Local accountability. Again, councils know their communities better than Victoria
ever could or ever would.
And fiscal prudence. Again, communities cannot grow responsibly if they lack the resources
to do so.
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Bill 25 violates these principles by overriding local autonomy and forcing municipalities
in compliance instead of cooperation. A government that respects local decision-making
does not need to centralize authority. A government confident in its policy does not
need to impose mandates. A government that truly wants results works with partners,
not over them.
Another troubling element of Bill 25 is the continued erosion of public consultation.
This government has already reduced public hearings on rezonings through previous
legislation. Bill 25 continues that trajectory by expanding regulatory authority and
narrowing the circumstances under which ministries can actually invite public input.
British Columbians deserve a voice in shaping their neighbourhoods, not to be told
that their input is an inconvenience slowing down the provincial agenda.
[The bells were rung.]
Deputy Speaker : Just one moment, Member.
Thank you. Continue, Kamloops–North Thompson.
Ward Stamer : British Columbians deserve a voice in shaping their neighbourhoods, not to be told
that their input is an inconvenience slowing down the provincial agenda. Democracy
is not a box to check. It is a process that protects fairness, transparency and trust.
This government should not be choosing speed over democracy. It should be choosing
good planning over political messaging.
Bill 25 also fails to address the real economic drivers of B.C.’s housing shortage
— high interest rates, high construction costs, a shortage of skilled trades, long
provincial permitting delays, provincial taxes and fees, immigration targets disconnected
from housing capacity, speculative finalization of land. None of these are fixed by
forcing municipalities to rezone more land.
We cannot legislate supply into existence when labour, materials and financing are
unavailable. We cannot legislate affordability while ignoring the cost structure that
drives prices. We certainly cannot legislate community support while excluding communities
from the process.
A B.C. Conservative housing plan would have a much different approach. We would have
a collaborative, not a coercive, relationship with municipalities; provincial investment
in infrastructure long before imposing density targets would be provided; localized
planning, recognizing that communities are not interchangeable.
We’d be restoring public consultation and transparency and trust in the process. We’d
be reducing provincial fees, delays and the regulatory burdens that are troubling
our entire sector. We’d be targeting affordability directly, not just assuming that
the market will direct it. We will also, again, empower municipalities to shape responsible,
sustainable growth. This is how building should work in this province, not from Victoria
but with partnerships throughout British Columbia.
In conclusion, Bill 25 is not a housing strategy. It’s a power grab, a download of
costs, again, and a substitution of local knowledge for provincial ideology. It weakens
municipalities. It undermines public confidence. It does not guarantee affordability.
It risks creating communities that grow faster than they can be safely serviced.
British Columbians need a real housing strategy, one built on partnership, transparency,
sustainability and a respect for local democracy. For these reasons, the B.C. Conservative
caucus cannot support Bill 25.
We stand for local autonomy, responsible growth and policies that actually improve
housing affordability, not just policies that sound good in a press release.
Korky Neufeld : I rise today to speak to Bill 25, the Housing and Municipal Affairs Statutes Amendment
Act. I want to start off by just quoting some stories from our local newspaper in
Abbotsford.
[2:55 p.m.]
It says: “Housing Crisis in the Fraser Valley.”
“As the rising housing market continues to inflate and the wages stay stagnant, young
people find it increasingly difficult to improve their living conditions.
“What income levels can afford a $1 million mortgage? How can someone save for a down
payment on a $1 million house while struggling to pay such high rent? Is owning a
home in the Fraser Valley an attainable goal?”
These are questions that many young people in British Columbia are asking as they
plan for their future.
Just a story to start off with.
“Currently my fiancé and I are looking to move into a detached home that aligns with
our goals as a couple. We purchased a condo in 2017, and since then it has soared
in value, $245,000 to approximately $650,000. Despite this jump in overall equity
to put towards a detached home, we’re finding that even most townhouses are beyond
our reach.
“My fiancé is an industrial electrician, and I’m a full-time support worker. We both
have very well-paying jobs, but despite our net income, the Fraser Valley is not affordable.
Because of the high cost of housing, we are considering relocating to another province.
“It saddens me that we are being pushed out of our home province, where all of our
friends and family are. We want to provide for our future family with the same childhood
that we had: a nice backyard with a trampoline, possibly a blow-up pool for the summer
and a garden where we can grow vegetables and fruits. Is this realistic for us if
we remain in the Fraser Valley?”
The answer is no, they don’t think so.
Another story.
“When looking at a single person with a good career, we can see some barriers when
it comes to owning a home or upgrading their existing one. Ashlee purchased a two-bedroom
apartment in Abbotsford in 2010 for $125,000. She was only 21 years old, but the cost
of the apartment was low, which also meant the down payment was an attainable sum
to manage, about $7,000. She was also able to co-sign the mortgage loan with her father,
a privilege that not all are afforded. She worked eight long years in retail to fulfil
the mortgage payments, and she retained roommates to offset monthly costs.
“Twelve years later her residence is currently valued at around $420,000, an increase
of just over 236 percent. Even with this shocking jump of $295,000 worth of equity,
it’s still insufficient for her quest to upgrade to a detached house or even a townhouse
in the Fraser Valley with a soon-to-be career as a social worker. The real estate
market she was once able to buy into as a single person is now beyond her reach should
she choose to sell her apartment.”
Bill 25. While I acknowledge its intent in legislation — namely, to increase housing
supply and address our province’s affordability crisis — I must express some serious
reservations about the scope, the approach and the potential unintended consequences
of what this bill proposes. This bill is Bill 44 on steroids.
At its core, Bill 25 represents a significant shift in how land use planning and housing
decisions will be made in British Columbia. The bill amends the Local Government Act,
it amends the Vancouver Charter, and it amends the Short-Term Rental Accommodations
Act, all under the stated goal of removing barriers to small-scale, multi-unit housing.
We all share the objective of seeing more houses being built, but the question before
us is how that housing gets built. At what cost to local communities and the cost
of additional infrastructure? Where is the democratic accountability? This bill is
not a simple zoning update. It is a profound centralization of power, command and
control — one that removes decision-making authority from locally elected councils
and communities and transfers it directly to the provincial cabinet and the Minister
of Housing.
Municipalities like Abbotsford are committed to working with the province. The key
word is “with” — in partnership, in collaboration, in co-governance. This is what
is posted on the Abbotsford city website:
“At its annual convention in Victoria, the Union of B.C. Municipalities, UBCM, got
behind Abbotsford’s push to have the province of B.C. provide funding to cities to
help cover rising infrastructure costs resulting from the increased residential density
permitted by provincial housing legislation.
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“The successful adoption of the infrastructure funding UBCM executive resolution is
proof that this is an issue felt by municipalities across the province and that action
needs to be taken to ensure that communities are ready to meet the rising demand for
city services, since more people living close together means more people using the
same water, the same sewer, the same roads and the same infrastructure.
“This resolution proposes that the province invest in a long-term, predictable, allocation-based
funding program to support local government infrastructure servicing needs and stimulate
growth of the provincial economy, as well as invest in provincial infrastructure investments
and provincial permitting processes required to support housing-related population
growth.
“We are encouraged by the support this resolution received and look forward to seeing
this proposal move forward so municipalities are relieved of undue financial pressure
as a consequence of the province’s mandated housing targets.”
Let me move on to the first part of the bill, the Local Government Act and the Vancouver
Charter amendments. Under these changes, every municipality with more than 5,000 residents
and located within an urban containment boundary will be required to adopt zoning
bylaws by June 30, 2026, that permit small-scale multi-unit housing — such as duplexes,
triplexes and fourplexes — on what were previously single-family lots.
At first glance, that sounds reasonable, but the bill goes further. It prevents —
I want to repeat: it prevents — municipalities, locally elected governments, from
setting their own standards for the size, the form or the density of these new housing
units. This will completely alter existing neighbourhoods. The city of Abbotsford,
like other municipalities, needs to alter their official community plan.
It gives cabinet, not local councils, the authority to determine what housing forms
must be permitted, where and at what scale. In other words, local zoning autonomy,
the very foundation of community planning, is being overridden by executive regulation.
And should a municipality fail to comply with the prescribed deadline, the minister,
with cabinet’s approval, is empowered to unilaterally enact or amend the city’s bylaw
to bring it in line with provincial directives.
Well, let me ask the question: where is the working with? Where is the partnership?
Where is the collaboration? Where is the co-governance? Instead we get command and
control. This is an extraordinary shift in power, one that effectively sidelines local
government and removes the voice of the people from decisions about the shape and
density of their neighbourhoods.
I want to read another
article that came out of Abbotsford. It’s called “Disagreements
Over Provincial Housing Mandates.” “In 2023, the province issued mandatory housing
targets for Abbotsford under the Housing Supply Act. In response, the city adopted
bylaws allowing for increased residential density to meet the provincial requirements.
However, the city has publicly stated that meeting these ambitious targets places
significant financial strain on its infrastructure, such as water and roads.”
The city of Abbotsford desires strongly to work with this government. The question
is: is this government willing to work with the city of Abbotsford in a meaningful
way?
Equally concerning is the
section of the bill dealing with off-street parking requirements.
As of June 30, 2024, municipalities will no longer be able to require off-street parking.
In other words, no garages, no driveways are required, no designated spaces for parking
for small multi-unit homes that the province now mandates must be permitted as single-family
lots.
This means that a developer can build a fourplex with zero parking spaces, even in
communities where transit options are limited or nonexistent, where amenities are
not in walking distance. For families, for seniors, for tradespeople, for people with
mobility challenges, this is not a theoretical inconvenience. It’s a very real, very
practical problem.
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The inevitable result will be congestion, spillover parking where it shouldn’t be,
access issues for emergency vehicles and conflict in communities that are already
struggling to manage rapid growth.
At the last UBCM in September, many city leaders argued that housing targets and related
infrastructure needs are beyond their ability to control. This isn’t about opposing
density. It’s actually about smart planning, which locally elected officials are best
to decide. Density must be matched with infrastructure, with transit, with parking,
with water and sewer capacity and with respect for the local context of each community.
This bill does not provide that balance. It imposes a one-size-fits-all solution from
Victoria, regardless of whether it fits in a mountain town, a rural community or a
wildfire interface zone. This approach risks creating exactly the kind of haphazard,
ill-considered growth that communities have worked so hard to avoid.
Furthermore, the bill allows municipalities to rezone land to comply with provincial
housing mandates, even when doing so contradicts their own official community plan.
These plans are well-thought-out plans, years in the making. This clause in
section
11 explicitly states that in 2027, local governments can ignore community-consulted
OCPs and long-range planning for local needs and restrictions when rezoning to meet
provincial requirements.
This is not only the province overriding a local community. It is now encouraging
municipalities to disregard the very planning documents that were developed through
years of public consultation with their own communities. What message does this send
to residents who have invested their time and trust in community planning processes?
These are the taxpayers that we in this House serve. These are the same taxpayers
that locally elected mayors and councils serve.
British Columbians deserve a say in the future of their neighbourhoods. They deserve
to know that when they participate in public hearings and when they engage in OCP
reviews, their voices matter. This bill undermines that principle, and I would say
shame on the government for this.
Turning briefly to short-term rental accommodations amendments, Bill 25 also makes
several changes to extend regulatory powers to modern treaty First Nations.
Indigenous communities should have the tools to manage short-term rentals within their
territories. However, this bill creates potential for overlapping jurisdictions and
enforcement confusion, not clarity. It allows for coordination agreements that can
apply different rules to different geographical areas, even with the same treaty lands.
Without a clear framework and consistent enforcement standards, this could lead to
uncertainty for both property owners and platforms alike.
Additionally, the bill tightens the review process for registration decisions, limiting
the grounds for appeal and centralizing decision-making authority with the government
provincial registrar. While administrative efficiency is important, due process and
fairness must not be sacrificed in the name of speed.
I want to emphasize again that we all agree that British Columbia needs more housing.
Our mayors and councils agree. They only want to work with this government. No one
disputes that affordability and supply are pressing issues, but the way this government
is going about it raises legitimate concerns about our local democracy, accountability
and practicality.
I read this in the newspaper just the other day too. It says: “Numerous households
across the Fraser Valley were waiting for affordable housing last spring, four years
after this government promised to solve B.C.’s housing crisis.” How much longer will
they need to wait?
Bill 25 assumes that Victoria knows best — similar to Bill 7, Bill 14 and Bill 15
— and that provincial bureaucrats, not local councils, are best equipped to decide
how every neighbourhood should grow. It assumes that parking, it assumes that infrastructure,
it assumes that livability concerns are secondary to rapid densification, and it assumes
that a uniform template for small-scale housing can work equally well in Surrey, in
Salmon Arm, in Smithers, in Abbotsford and even in Spuzzum.
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That assumption is absolutely wrong. We cannot plan our way out of a housing crisis
by dismantling local governance, we cannot solve affordability by ignoring infrastructure
realities, and we cannot build public trust by imposing top-down mandates that silence
community voices.
A truly effective housing strategy requires partnership, collaboration, a co-governance
relationship between the province and municipalities, First Nations and local residents.
It requires flexibility, consultation and respect for local knowledge. Unfortunately,
Bill 25 falls short on all three accounts.
While the goal of increasing housing supply is one that we all support, this legislation,
as it stands today, concentrates far too much power in the hands of the provincial
government. It undermines local autonomy and disregards the everyday realities of
families and communities across British Columbia.
Let me try to be positive and offer some constructive solutions to Bill 25, a path
forward rooted in partnership, practicality and respect.
One, table Bill 25 and replace compulsion with consultation. Engage genuinely with
UBCM, local governments, the private sector and citizens.
Two, address real barriers — land, labour and infrastructure, not ideology. Without
serviced land and skilled workforce, mandates are meaningless.
Three, adopt place-based policy. What works in Burnaby may not work in Abbotsford.
Respect local context. Respect local geography. Respect local economies.
Four, build true fiscal partnerships. Provide predictable infrastructure funding.
End the grant lottery, where communities compete for short-term photo ops. Municipalities
need stable revenues to plan long-term growth.
Five, reform the regulatory framework. The B.C. chamber’s data shows projects’ costs
can fall by 20 percent with open procurement and reduced red tape. We can apply those
savings to actual housing supply.
Finally, six, restore local democracy. Reinstate public hearings, empower local councils
and trust citizens. Democracy takes time, but trust takes longer. Without trust, no
policy will ever succeed.
I urge this government to reconsider Bill 25 as it is — to work with local governments,
not over them, which is not too much to ask for; and to pair density with infrastructure.
A building without services is just a shed. Buildings need power, water and sewer
are costs that municipalities will need to bear on their own. Reconsider to ensure
that our collective efforts to solve the housing crisis strengthen, not weaken, the
fabric of our communities.
This side of the House looks forward to committee stage to address further questions
and debate on these serious issues and concerns. Bill 5 has far too many unintended
consequences.
Deputy Speaker : Member, I believe you meant Bill 25.
Bryan Tepper : I rise with heavy heart. I do not enjoy telling the government, colleagues I respect,
colleagues who are trying their very best and who truly mean well, that this bill,
for all its good intentions, will hurt more than it helps. I wish I could say that
yes, this is the bold stroke we need. But I cannot, because of the evidence.
The municipalities and the people I represent are telling me gently, firmly, repeatedly
that this path leads to more conflict, more cost and less trust. So please forgive
me for what I must say. I say it not to score points but because someone has to speak
for the cities, towns and neighbourhoods that feel unheard.
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I know the pressure is immense. I know the housing numbers are brutal. I’m sure the
government is working tirelessly and will continue to work, acting in good faith to
solve a generational crisis. But giving the province the power to override local bylaws
on parking, setbacks and density without appeal, without consultation, is a bridge
too far.
The Community Charter was written to protect municipal autonomy. It says councils
are natural persons, not branches of Victoria. They know their floodplains, their
heritage streets, their transit realities.
When 25 municipalities sued over Bill 44, it wasn’t NIMBYism. It was a cry: “Work
with us, not over us.” Bill 25 answers that cry with a regulatory hammer. That breaks
something deeper than bylaws. It breaks partnership.
I know the intent — speed. I know the government believes deeply that faster approvals
mean faster homes. The conviction is sincere. But removing public hearings for compliant
rezonings, forcing five-year OCP cycles, without local rhythm? That’s not efficiency;
that’s silencing. It’s seizing power from the local citizens and gathering it in Victoria.
The irony of that is that the city of Victoria itself has its say neutered by this
bill.
In Kitsilano, residents begged for tree protections. In Squamish, they asked for family-sized
units. Under Bill 25, their microphone is unplugged because the provincial checklist
says so.
Democracy is not a luxury we can suspend. When people feel steamrolled, they don’t
just accept it. They resist, and that resistance will delay homes far more than any
hearing ever could.
I know the government means well when it says that developers will pay. I know they
genuinely believe that market forces will absorb the cost. But mandating density without
funding infrastructure is fiscal cruelty. The UBCM says it’s $50,000 to $100,000 per
small project in sewer, road and school upgrades. That’s hundreds of millions dumped
on local taxpayers.
The city of Surrey itself has billions of infrastructure upgrades it needs. Where
are we going to get that money? Developers can’t pay it all. DCCs are capped. Markets
are soft.
Who carries the load? The senior in Maple Ridge, the young family in Kamloops, the
small business in Cranbrook. We cannot ask them to pay for Victoria’s ambition — not
without dedicated capital grants, not without shared responsibility.
I know the government truly wants to unlock supply everywhere. I know they sincerely
believe uniform standards are fair. But not every lot is the same. A 3,000-square-foot
parcel in East Vancouver is not the same as one in Crescent Beach, Fernie or Delta’s
floodplain, yet Bill 25 says: “Same parking rules, same building area, same height.”
It ignores sea level rise, wildfire corridors, heritage blocks, small-town scale.
The result is gentrification, 15 to 25 percent value spikes, longtime residents priced
out.
Density without design is not progress; it’s erasure. The people in my own riding
have homes that currently have no street parking left. That’s with bylaws that require
off-street parking. In certain neighbourhoods, I’ve had to park three to four blocks
away just to walk to a home in that neighbourhood.
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Finally, the STR changes. I know the government means every word when they say that
short-term rentals must serve long-term residents. I know they’re trying their hardest
to protect housing stock.
I’ll support enforcement, but $10,000-a-day fines with no revenue sharing and abrupt
bans in tourism towns? That’s not tough love; that’s economic shock. Whistler, Tofino,
Kelowna — 20 to 30 percent of host income gone overnight.
We have several large events coming up in British Columbia. The World Cup. I believe
the estimates are that we’re 170,000 hotel rooms short. Where are we going to find
these spots for people that just want to come and enjoy and spend their money in our
province?
Seasonal jobs are lost. Bed tax revenue vanishes. The enforcement? The municipalities
are paying, and the province is collecting. This isn’t housing policy. It’s punishment
by headline.
I do not stand here to obstruct. I stand here to beg for a better way, one that honours
the government’s sincere effort and genuine care. Let’s restore partnership, provincial
guidelines and local standards; fund what we mandate; tie targets to capital grants;
and keep the public in the rooms where we have hearings for major change. We can honour
place — flexibility for flood, fire and heritage. These are all different obstacles
that different communities face.
Phase STRs fairly — 24 months, revenue sharing, tourism transitions and, perhaps I
would add, for special events.
I wish I could applaud this bill. I wish I could say: “Finally, action.” But I cannot,
because trust is the foundation of every home we build. Bill 25, as written, cracks
that foundation. Let us go back, together, and write a law that builds homes, hope
and harmony. British Columbia deserves both urgency and respect. I yield the floor
with apology and with hope.
Harman Bhangu : I rise today to speak strongly and unapologetically against Bill 25. This bill may
be wrapped in the language of housing reform and modernization, but British Columbians
deserve the truth. Bill 25 is not a partnership with communities. It is not empowerment.
Definitely, it is not responsible planning.
Bill 25 is a consolidating, heavy-handed takeover of local decision-making and a disruption
of how communities grow, function and serve the people who live in them. As the jobs
and economic development critic, I can say, without hesitation, that this bill will
not make our economic corridor or transport corridors…. This bill will make our challenges
much worse.
It will make our construction challenges worse as well. It will hurt businesses, tradesworkers,
families and municipalities. It will not build a better British Columbia. It will
build frustration in British Columbia, full of conflict and chaos. The core problem:
density without infrastructure.
Let me begin with the most basic truth of this legislation. You cannot force massive
density into communities that do not have the infrastructure to support the density.
You cannot force four, six, eight or 12 units onto lots where one stood before and
pretend the roads, the sewers, the stormwater systems, the schools, the parks, the
policing and the transit all magically expand with it.
Infrastructure planning and partnership have to come first, and none of that is present
in Bill 25. This government is pushing density and stripping municipalities of the
ability to acquire basic, practical elements, like off-street parking.
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They are doing it in communities that do not have reliable transit. They are doing
it in rural towns, agricultural zones, wildfire interface areas and suburban neighbourhoods
where cars are not a luxury; they are a necessity. The government knows this. The
people on the ground know this. But Bill 25 pretends the realities of daily life do
not exist.
Now we have housing without parking. It’s not housing. It is a problem that you’re
pushing down the road. One of the most glaring failures of this bill is its attempt
to strip municipalities of the ability to require off-street parking for multi-unit
developments. This is not a technical detail. This is not a minor line item. This
is not a small adjustment. For many communities, this is the difference between livability
and dysfunction.
When you remove parking requirements, you don’t remove cars. People will still own
vehicles. Tradesworkers will still own trucks. Families will still try to get their
will still need to commute to night shifts and jobs outside of the transit corridors.
All of those cars have to go somewhere. Under Bill 25, they will go onto the streets,
onto boulevards, into business parking lots and in front of homes where residents
have nowhere else to park.
You will create conflicts in neighbourhoods. You will push customers away from small
businesses. You will burden cities with enforcement costs, signage, tickets, towing
and angry residents. This is what happens when the government ignores the lived reality
of the people they claim to be building housing for.
For example, the Port Coquitlam mayor, Brad West, called this out years ago. To understand
why parking matters, we don’t need a theory. We need one real-world example. Port
Coquitlam is not a rural town, not an isolated community. It’s a fast-growing, transit-connected
city with an active downtown.
A little while back, their staff recommended reducing minimum parking requirements,
using the exact same logic this government uses in Bill 25, the idea that there is
too much parking and that lowering requirements will encourage people to abandon their
vehicles.
What did Mayor Brad West say? “What staff proposed subscribes to the same theory of
the province, in that there is an oversupply of parking” — then he delivered one of
the most down-to-earth, commonsense lines any mayor has said on this issue — “which,
I think, to believe requires you to ignore the evidence of your eyes.”
Ignore the evidence of your eyes. We’ve seen it with this government, ignoring on
crime, health care, transportation, economy. Ignore what you see every day in your
community. Ignore the realities of cars circling around neighbourhoods for space.
Ignore residents frustrated by the spillover into their neighbourhoods. This is the
same government logic being imposed on every community through Bill 25.
Brad West also warned that reducing parking requirements would hurt the cities financially,
because they rely on parking in lieu of funds to pay for infrastructure. If Port Coquitlam,
with transit, with density, with planning, cannot make ultra-low parking work, then
how will small towns, rural communities or growing suburbs?
Bill 25 is not planning. Bill 25 is wishful thinking forced onto communities that
cannot afford the consequences. Take, for example, West Vancouver. Mayor Sager saw
this pattern early. Port Coquitlam was not the only community that has raised these
concerns. Years back when the province began moving towards top-down housing and targets,
West Vancouver mayor Mark Sager said something that should have stopped this government
in its tracks.
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He said: “We believe municipalities should be responsible for zoning and planning.”
It is a simple truth. Local planning belongs to local communities, in partnership
with the provincial and federal help to make it happen.
Then he went further. “For the province to step in and zone all British Columbia from
Victoria, we fundamentally think that is an error.” He wasn’t speaking about Bill
25. He was speaking about the same pattern of provincial overreach that this bill
is now taking to an extreme.
When you have mayors from Port Coquitlam and West Vancouver, two very different communities
facing different pressures, saying the province is overstepping and that this is not
a coincidence, that this is a warning…. These comments are evidence of a longer and
deeper problem. Municipalities have raised the alarm for years. This government simply
does not listen.
Bill 25 is the latest example and the most extreme version yet, a Vancouver template
that’s being forced on an entire province. One of the most troubling aspects of Bill
25 is that it applies a Vancouver-style planning philosophy to an entire province
that looks nothing like Vancouver.
British Columbia is not one city. It is a patchwork of communities — urban, rural,
agricultural, coastal, interior and northern — each with different needs, different
pressures, different transportation realities and different infrastructure capacities.
What might work in Kitsilano does not work in Merritt. What might work in Mount Pleasant
does not work in Salmon Arm. What might work downtown does not work in Aldergrove,
Langley, Mission or Abbotsford or any growing suburb without full transport and transit
service.
But this bill does not acknowledge those differences. It treats all of British Columbia
as if it were two blocks on Main Street, Vancouver. That is not housing policy; that
is an ideological uniformity at the expense of real communities.
This bill is also economically irresponsible. As the jobs and economic development
critic, I have to highlight how economically reckless this bill truly is. Housing
affects jobs. It affects labour mobility. It affects the ability for employers to
hire. It affects construction timelines, supply chains and financial viability on
these projects. Bill 25 undercuts all of that.
For example, one, projects will be harder to finance. Banks know that the units with
no parking have less appeal and fewer buyers. That shrinks resale value and financial
stability.
Two, small businesses will be harmed. Spillover parking hurts storefronts. We’re seeing
it with the Broadway-Commercial line. It drives customers away. We’re seeing it with
the Pattullo Bridge project. Business cannot absorb that burden.
Three, tradesworkers are ignored. Tradesworkers cannot haul tools on bicycles. They
can’t take the SkyTrain to rural jobsites. They rely on trucks, equipment. Bill 25
does not even acknowledge them.
To get to the short-term rentals and First Nations authority, the confusion that lies
ahead…. This bill also creates overlapping enforcement regimes for short-term rentals
and coordination agreements with First Nations.
Coordination is important, but this bill is unclear on various things. Who enforces
it? Who shares the data? Who issues the penalties? Who administers the system? Confusion
is not reconciliation. Confusion is not partnership. It is simply another layer of
uncertainty for tourism operators in rural economic corridors.
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And there is another detail the public should know. According to a contract publicly
posted online, in June, the ministry had to hire MNP for $26,000. “Lead the short-term-rental
registry financial risk and controls review.” If this government’s short-term-rental
system was working, why did they need outside, high-priced consultants to tell them
where the financial risks are? Why didn’t the ministry already know?
The contract confirms what municipalities already see on the ground. The STR system
is sloppy, unstable, and now Bill 25 is trying to patch it again. UBCM has warned
this government. They still won’t listen. This government still won’t listen.
On October 22, UBCM publicly stated that Bill 25 creates strain on local capacity
and that many municipalities are still struggling to implement the last round of housing
laws. They said this bill will divert staff resources away from approvals and create
significant new infrastructure implications. They also said many of the problems could
have been avoided if the province had done proper consultation instead of telling
municipalities to “consult your lawyer.” Bill 25 ignores all of that
And there is more. According to the ministry’s own briefing note
summary for July,
which is publicly available online, the minister at the time signed an MOU with UBCM
on local government financial resilience. You do not sign an MOU on financial resilience
unless municipalities are already under strain.
Then just months later the government introduces Bill 25, adding more pressure, more
mandates and more downloading onto those same local governments. So what was the point
of signing that agreement? Bill 25 breaks the spirit of that on page 1.
The minister’s first reading claims do not match reality. In her first reading speech,
the minister said that only a small number of communities would be affected. UBCM
says the opposite. She said Bill 25 removes barriers. UBCM says it creates new burdens.
She said the bill clarifies the rules. The municipalities were told, “Consult your
lawyer” before.
Now this bill is here to clean up the mess the government created. She said these
amendments improve operational efficiency, but a flurry of amendments is not efficiency.
It’s repair work. The province is blaming municipalities for its own failures for
years, and it continues.
Let’s be honest. This government has failed — failed on transit expansion, failed
on infrastructure investment, failed on permitting, failed on supply chain issues,
failed on trade labour shortages, failed on housing affordability, failed on community
supports. I can go on and on.
And now, after all these failures, the government tries to blame municipalities through
Bill 25. That is not leadership. It is deflection, which we see time and time again
on that side of the aisle. It’s time for a blue-collar reality check.
I come from a working-class background. I know what families face. I know what businesses
face. I know what trade workers face. If you build housing that people cannot practically
live in because there is nowhere to park, nowhere to commute from, nowhere for trade
trucks to go, nowhere for small businesses to keep customer access, you’re not building
affordability. You’re building frustration, and the people who will suffer the most
are the people this government claims to be helping.
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In conclusion, I cannot and will not support Bill 25. This bill is not about homes.
It is about power, plain and simple. It ignores local acknowledgement. It ignores
municipal warnings. It ignores infrastructure reality. It ignores transportation reality.
It ignores economic reality.
It ignores the mayors and communities who have already told the province that we’re
heading down the wrong direction. Brad West said that believing there is too much
parking requires you to ignore the evidence of your eyes. Mark Sager said that zoning
of all British Columbia from Victoria is an error, and he is not wrong.
Those were warning signs issued long before Bill 25, warnings this government refused
to listen to. And today, through Bill 25, the government is doubling down on the same
mistake. For all of these reasons and economic reasons, for planning reasons, for
practical reasons and for the well-being of communities across British Columbia, I
cannot and will not support this bill.
Trevor Halford : I want to thank the members, especially on this side of the House, that have spoken
so passionately in regards to our opposition on Bill 25.
You know, we all come to this House with different backgrounds, different skill sets,
different reflections and different paths on how we got here. It amazes me because
we have, on both sides of the House, a number of people that have come here with a
municipal background. Whether it’s a school district, a regional district, parks;
whether it’s serving as mayor of the second, soon to be first, largest city in British
Columbia — we all, on each side of the House, have those backgrounds.
Now, it perplexes me why, and on Bill 25, over the last number of years, the NDP,
this government, has waged a war on the jurisdiction of those duly elected municipal
governments, bill by bill. Bill 44, which is very similar to what we’re talking about
here.
We have issues that are going before council in Surrey in 15 minutes on housing that
we can’t have public debate on. No public debate on housing projects that the government
is putting into communities. If there’s support or opposition or if there are questions….
The government, the province of B.C., the NDP government has told the cities, whether
it’s the city of Prince George, the city of Surrey, the city of Victoria, the city
of White Rock, the city of Merritt — it doesn’t matter, every single city in this
province: “You do not and, more importantly, the constituents in your municipalities
do not have a right to have their voices heard at public hearings.” And that is completely
wrong. Absolutely wrong.
This bill fits that mould.
I represent areas of South Surrey where we have a development that happened just by
the truck crossing on 0 and 176. Beautiful homes have been growing in there for ten
to 15 years at Douglas crossing. A couple of thousand families are in there. There
is not one public bus that goes through there. There’s no transit, no public transit.
In fact, if you want to use public transit, you’ve got to walk all the way down 8th
Avenue, which I would never let any of my kids walk down. You’ve got to cross Highway
99, which you…. Then you’ve got to cross King George Highway. Then you’ve got to walk
along King George Highway, and you’ve got to wait for a bus that comes four times
a day. That is your access to public transit under this government in an area that
services 10,000 to 15,000 people. I don’t think that’s adequate.
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When the colleague previous and the colleague previous before that, and probably my
next colleague is going to speak about the fact about eliminating parking and mandating
that with the municipalities…. Where is the vision? Where is the reality?
What are you going to tell the single mom that’s living now in a basement, that’s
going to pick her kids up from school, get them to dance, get the other one to hockey,
then get to her job, and then do it all over again. There’s no parking required there.
You’re on your own. Maybe you can Uber it.
When we talk about things that this government wants to do, I would challenge the
Housing Minister and I would challenge any MLA in Surrey, for that matter, to come
over into White Rock and tell me, whether it’s on Oxford Street, Stevens Street, Stayte
Road, Buena Vista, how you are going to do this. I’ll give an answer for you. You
can’t. Then why are you doing it? You can’t. There’s not even room right now for these
people to take their garbage cans out.
We have massive infrastructure upgrades that need to happen, whether it’s Crescent
Beach, whether it’s Ocean Park, whether it’s Oxford Hill, whether it’s Centennial
Arena, whether it’s King George Highway. I keep going down the list, and I can go
into other ridings as well. I can list those off, and they’re not done. If you talk
to the city of Surrey, they’re saying that in order for us to do those infrastructure
upgrades, they’re over $800 million. Who’s paying that bill? Who’s footing that bill?
Again, this is done in strong opposition to what we are hearing from our municipal
leaders, our elected municipal leaders.
Now, I know that the Premier has probably hired a couple of high school or university
friends to help advise him in the Premier’s office when it comes to housing or whatever,
or past mayors that didn’t get elected or that share those philosophical socialist
beliefs on how we do housing in British Columbia. But it doesn’t work in all corners
of this province.
Fundamentally, it does not work. What works in White Rock may not work in Chetwynd.
It probably won’t. Again, we go through these things, and these are all things that
I’ve given this speech on before, on Bill 44. I’ve given it on Bill 47. It’s the same
stuff. It’s the same opposition. But this government believes in this one-size-fits-all
model, and it’s baffling to me. Not only is it incredibly lazy, but it’s incredibly
dangerous.
You look at this piece of legislation here, and I can explain why it will not work.
I can also explain how offensive it is to the local leaders. Where the confusion is,
is that they have to go out there and do this work — and the amount of staff time
it takes up, and things like that.
You look at cities, whether it’s White Rock or smaller cities than that…. One staff
member was telling me that they have to spend the majority of their time going back
and forth with the province at a bureaucratic level explaining why they can’t meet
these targets, why this does not work for them. That is how they’re spending their
days, not on their permitting, not on the other stuff that they’re meant to be doing,
right? They’re trying to explain to the province how their mandates and their legislation
are conflicting with the reality that’s within their jurisdiction.
I know that other members on the other side of the House are hearing the same thing.
In our caucus, we have former councillors, former city managers and former mayors,
and the government side does as well.
[3:50 p.m.]
I know what I’m hearing on this side on why this does not work. I’m very curious to
hear, on the other side, how they justify this. The previous speaker was right. Not
every city is Vancouver. It’s not. And I think part of the challenge we have here
is that when the government looks at things, I don’t know if they’re just throwing
darts at a board on a map of British Columbia. That’s honestly how it feels.
Right now you have, I guarantee you, probably a couple hundred people at Surrey city
hall that are wanting to speak on something, and they can’t. That isn’t mandated by
the mayor of Surrey or anybody that sits on Surrey city council. That was mandated
by this NDP government. They silenced those people today. Nobody else did. And that’s
wrong. It’s the same thing with this bill.
I want to thank you for the time today. Obviously, I stand in solid opposition, but
I would say this in my concluding remarks. This idea that everything that goes on
in here and every legislation that is put forward here must work in every corner of
this province is not reality. It’s not.
I can tell you, whether it’s in rural British Columbia or in urban, that there seems
to be a massive disconnect in reality of what we’re facing, whether it’s in Surrey
or White Rock or whether it’s in Dawson Creek or Prince George. Nobody is happy with
what we’re getting from this government, especially when it comes to legislation that
continues to erode the powers and structures of municipalities.
We all end up paying for it because we’re not doing the work ahead of time. We’re
not doing the infrastructure upgrades. We’re not looking at the expansions. I can
tell you that in my riding, we don’t have any new schools in the last six or seven
years. We don’t.
The upgrade…. We’re getting a new ICU at Peace Arch Hospital, which is $40 million.
I want to thank the province for that. I want to thank them for the $3 million they’re
contributing, but I really want to thank the Peace Arch Hospital Foundation, who’s
contributing the other $37 million. That’s what the province is putting in. They’re
putting in less than 10 percent when it comes to the new ICU at Peace Arch Hospital.
Again, they have to be able to work with municipalities, and this hammer approach
is failing every single time, and this is no different.
Lynne Block : My fellow MLAs, to preface, we do stand united in the conviction that the housing
crisis is an emergency demanding urgent and effective action.
The Housing and Municipal Affairs Statutes Amendment Act, 2025, introduced by this
government, is intended to rapidly increase density and streamline development across
the province. However, in pursuit of this necessary goal, this legislation introduces
a fundamental rebalancing of power between the province and our local municipalities.
The sources clearly detail that these amendments demonstrate a significant expansion
of provincial authority, which we must critically examine as overreach. This centralization
raises pertinent questions about procedural fairness, local responsiveness and the
ability of communities to shape their own futures.
We must view these legislative changes, which shift control over zoning, density,
parking and administrative review from elected local councils to the provincial government
and the Lieutenant Governor in Council, albeit a shift to a central command centre,
taking over the operational controls of various local entities.
[3:55 p.m.]
The centralization of control established by this Housing and Municipal Affairs Statutes
Amendment Act is likened to a central command centre taking over the operational controls
of various local ships. Now, in this scenario, our local captains — our mayors and
councils, our municipal leaders — are left responsible for the vessel’s journey. This
means they still bear the political and administrative responsibility for managing
community services, budgeting and mitigating the consequences of rapid change, such
as infrastructure strain and congestion.
However, the captains are rendered powerless to steer it according to local navigational
hazards or conditions. This powerlessness stems from the provincial government’s assumption
of critical local powers, including mandatory destination setting.
The province dictates that local governments must permit specific uses and densities
in formerly restricted zones by June 30, 2026, overriding the municipality’s traditional
control over zoning bylaws. Local leaders lose the ability to tailor density changes
to existing neighbourhood character, infrastructure capacity or community preference.
The Lieutenant Governor in Council gains authority to make regulations dictating the
siting, size, dimensions, location, type, form or density of housing units. This removes
control over granular design details used to ensure new development harmonizes with
existing neighbourhoods.
The Lieutenant Governor can set an upper limit on the off-street parking spaces that
a municipality may require. This removes the captain’s power to assess and manage
local parking needs, potentially exacerbating street congestion and parking shortages.
If a local council fails to comply with these mandates, the minister, with the Lieutenant
Governor in Council’s approval, can make an order that enacts or amends the local
bylaw directly, completely bypassing the local democratic process and negating local
accountability. In essence, the provincial government has taken the helm of the ship,
leaving the local leaders with the bill for the fuel and the responsibility for the
crew, but no ability to adjust course to avoid locally specific obstacles.
The cornerstone of local governance is the power to manage land use through zoning
bylaws. This act aggressively removes this power via mandatory density mandates. The
legislation dictates that local governments and the council of Vancouver must permit
specific uses and densities in zones previously restricted primarily to detached single-family
dwellings, known as restricted zones. By June 30, 2026, zoning bylaws must be amended
to permit uses such as duplexes and single-family dwellings with one or two additional
housing units. This represents an overreach, because it overrides the local governments’
traditional power to control land use.
So what’s perhaps the possible negative result of this? It is the inability of municipalities
to tailor density changes to existing neighbourhood character, infrastructure capacity
or community preference, as they are compelled to comply with minimum density standards
set by the province. But one size does not fit all.
This standardization doesn’t stop at density. The Lieutenant Governor in Council is
granted broad regulation-making authority to dictate specific elements of the newly
required housing units, including “the siting, size, dimensions, location, type, form
or density of housing units.” Local governments must then exercise their zoning powers
in accordance with those provincial regulations.
[4:00 p.m.]
The last couple of weeks I spent chit-chatting with my two local mayors and councillors
and citizens in my riding, and they are aghast by the overreach of this government.
They wanted me to convey very strongly that this is not acceptable and they are totally
against it. So I’m just making it very clear, representing my riding.
This provincial control removes local ability to manage the granular details of construction
and design often used to ensure new development harmonizes with existing neighbourhoods.
The outcome risks a loss of local distinctiveness and standardized, potentially unsuitable
developments across diverse geographic and community settings.
One of the examples cited was that our municipalities know areas where possible landslides
could happen in the future and where some have already. If, indeed, they’re overridden,
then who is going to be responsible for any casualties, any loss of lives, any loss
of property? It would have to be the municipalities.
The most profound constitutional risk involves the minister’s power to directly intervene
and legislate local rules. If a local government fails to adopt a zoning bylaw or
parking bylaw that complies with the new provincial mandates within the required timeframe,
the minister may issue notice. If compliance remains absent, the minister may, with
prior approval of the Lieutenant Governor in Council, make an order that enacts or
amends the local bylaw directly.
Forget about OCPs. Forget about many, many times when all the constituents are together
and have wonderful collaboration and cooperation in what they envision in their municipality.
This allows a provincial minister to completely bypass the local democratic process
and legislate local rules. This concentrates key legislative functions within the
administrative reach of the provincial executive, resulting in the negation of local
democratic accountability for key planning decisions.
This centralized control extends to traffic and infrastructure planning. We only have
two bridges. We have people coming through the North Shore along the highway. People
now commute from Lions Bay, Squamish. They come from Bowen Island. They commute. Then
we have commuters coming from the other way, all the way across the Second Narrows
Bridge.
I can assure you, when it’s time for the change at Seaspan, for people coming in and
people going out, we are clogged. From two o’clock onwards, you have to make sure
that you are either going at least an hour and a half early to an appointment downtown
or across the Second Narrows Bridge, or you may lose out. You never know what the
traffic is like.
Heaven forbid if there’s an emergency or traffic accident, because everything is plugged.
You cannot move. I remember a few months ago there was a traffic accident, and there
was another issue on the other bridge. Traffic didn’t move for four hours. One mother
was trying to pick up her son from daycare, and she was stuck for three hours in the
same spot because nothing moved. There was no place to go.
All of this increased density…. There’s still no way to get off the North Shore. There
is no bridge planned, not even talking about it, not even a tunnel.
This centralized control extends to traffic and infrastructure planning. The act immediately
restricts municipalities and Vancouver council from requiring off-street parking or
loading spaces for specific newly required residential housing units. The Lieutenant
Governor in Council is authorized to make regulations setting an upper limit on the
number of off-street parking or loading spaces that local governments may require
for other residential uses permitted under the act.
What’s the negative result? Increased infrastructure strain. This is an overreach
because it removes the municipality’s power to assess local parking needs. By restricting
the ability to demand adequate off-street parking, the law risks exacerbating street
congestion and parking shortages in rapidly densifying areas.
[4:05 p.m.]
For regions like the North Shore, where existing infrastructure is already inadequate,
adding more residents with no parallel infrastructure built ignores the facts and
risks more gridlock, negatively impacting emergency measures and commuters.
When such extraordinary authority is centralized, including the power to impose bylaws
via order and to regulate design specifications, the system becomes structurally vulnerable
to unintended negative outcomes if that power is exercised without complete impartiality.
The risk is clear. When power is centralized and local checks are eliminated, the
system becomes vulnerable to personal motive and bias. What are three risks stemming
from potential bias or potential motive?
Politically motivated override and selective enforcement. For example, the minister’s
power to enact or amend bylaws and the authority to grant extensions only in “extraordinary
circumstances” carries the risk of being applied unevenly.
If the minister or Lieutenant Governor in Council is influenced by personal relationships
or partisan leverage, a non-compliant municipality that is politically aligned might
receive extensive extensions, while an opposition-led municipality might face immediate
and aggressive imposition of provincially