Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Statements by Ministers — 13 November 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 28)

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Newfoundland and Labrador Hansard — Statements by Ministers — 13 November 2013 (47th General Assembly, 2nd Session, Vol. XLVII No. 28)

2013-11-13

Newfoundland and Labrador — Debates (Hansard)

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November 13, 2013 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS

Vol. XLVII No. 28

The House met at 2:00 p.m.

MR. SPEAKER (Wiseman): Order, please!

Admit strangers.

Statements by Members

MR. SPEAKER: Today we will have members' statement from: the Member for

the District of Cape St. Francis; the Member for the District of Signal Hill

Quidi Vidi; the Member for the District of The Straits White Bay North; the

Member for the District of St. John's East; the Member for the District of St.

John's South; and the Member for the District of Burgeo La Poile.

The hon. the Member for the District of Cape St. Francis.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. K. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise in this hon. House today to congratulate Jack and Elizabeth Hogan and

their family on the fiftieth anniversary of their business, District Drugs.

On June 17 way back in 1963, in the Town of Torbay, the doors of District

Drugs opened and an important part of the area was established.

Mr. Speaker, it is sure to be said that not many businesses have put back

into their community as District Drugs have. Whether it has been sports teams,

school trips, school fundraising, or any group or persons needing assistance,

the Hogan family was always first to come forward and help.

District Drugs has changed its appearance over the years from a small store

with an apartment at the top. Today, it is a beautiful building that houses many

different businesses including a doctor's office, a large store and pharmacy;

however, District Drugs still maintains its great service that people have

become accustomed to. They have great staff and the business continues to be

operated by family members.

On behalf of all the people in my district I would like to thank and

congratulate Jack and Elizabeth Hogan for fifty years of business in the

district, and I ask all hon. members to join with me in congratulating the Hogan

family for fifty years of success in business and serving the people of the

Torbay area.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Signal Hill Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I stand today to congratulate CUPE on the fiftieth anniversary. The Canadian

Union of Public Employees is Canada's largest union with over 627,000 members

across the country, and over 6,000 here in Newfoundland and Labrador.

CUPE members serve their fellow Newfoundlanders and Labradorians every day.

They work in our public system in health care, education, public housing,

provincial libraries, municipalities, the university, in child care, social

services and more.

Through their advocacy work for programs that improve the lives of everyone

in the community, such as universal child care and an improved Canada Pension

Plan, CUPE has proven that unions stand for social justice. Their commitment is

to work for a society where everyone is taken care of.

By striving for good working conditions for their members, unions like CUPE

improve working conditions for all workers. The labour rights that workers enjoy

are there because of the work of CUPE and the labour movement.

Here is to fifty years of fair representation and improvements for everyone

working in Newfoundland and Labrador.

I ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating CUPE, their members, and

all workers who labour for a more fair and just world.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to recognize Korean War Veteran, Mr. Frank Slade, who was

honoured at the 2013 Remembrance Day Ceremonies in St. Anthony deemed year of

Korean War Veterans.

Mr. Slade, Paratrooper with Royal Canadian Regiment 2nd Battalion, served in

the Korean and German wars. He participated in the only jump made by Canadians

in the Korean War defending the Pintail Bridge. He is also credited with saving

a Korean child who lost both legs and an eye in a mortar explosion. Frank

received numerous service medals, including Ambassador's Korean War Service

Medal this past Memorial Day.

Mr. Slade served eighteen years with Canadian Rangers, holding ranks as

Lieutenant and District Commander from St. Anthony to Flower's Cove.

Mr. Jamie Bussey of St. Anthony Canadian Rangers told Slade's story to Sgt.

Rude with the Gander 5th Canadian Ranger Patrol. In turn, Rude arranged Cpl

Marquardt, Cpl Sanchez-Groleau and Pte Broden Kelly 3rd Battalion, Royal

Canadian Regiment, Petawawa to march alongside Mr. Slade and present a plaque to

honour his service with the Regiment.

"It has made my week and a Remembrance Day I'll never forget", said Mr.

Slade.

I ask all hon. members to join me in recognizing the contributions of veteran

Frank Slade.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to congratulate the thirty-four

young people from Gonzaga and Holy Heart High Schools who attended the ceremony

this June recognizing a big achievement in their lives.

The Duke of Edinburgh's Award is a challenging program that encourages youth

to reach their full potential in several areas: fitness, community service, and

developing skills. To receive the gold award, the highest level, they must

complete a series of outdoor challenges and spend five days and four nights away

from home working with people they have never met before.

While the award itself can only be presented by a member of the royal family,

I had the privilege of attending and speaking at a ceremony honouring these

young people and their achievement last June.

Also recognized that day were the volunteers who helped make the program the

success that it was at Gonzaga High School. Three of them Don Burrage, Don

Ryplen, and Janet Ryplen received ten-year service awards.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all hon. members to join me in congratulating these Duke

of Edinburgh Award recipients, and the parents and volunteers who helped them

get there.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to recognize the Fieldians Athletic Association boys' under

fourteen soccer team. They are the provincial champs and represented

Newfoundland and Labrador at the Club Nationals in Lethbridge, Alberta. The team

finished with a 2-2-1 record.

Our Province was represented well; the National Golden Boot Award was

presented to Emmanuel Dolo of our Province who was the top goal scorer in the

tournament with seventeen goals in five games. The National Fair Play Award was

presented to our Province as well.

The team members are: Daniel McCarthy, Evan Bursey, Stephen Haring, Seth

Bryant, Morgan Cole, Marcus Greene, Emmanuel Dolo, Matthew McCarthy, Dean

Turpin, Saul Bryant, Tristan Wawrzkow, Ryan Connors, Jordan Robbins, Thomas

Osmond, Felly Elonda, David Goudling, and Joshua Taylor; the head coach was Ian

Osmond, the assistant coach was John Acreman, and the manager was Hugo McCarthy.

I ask all members to recognize the team for making us proud.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today to pay tribute to Tyler LeFrense of Isle aux Morts, who was the

recent grand prize winner of Lay's Do Us a Flavour contest.

Tyler's moose and maple syrup combination won the nation-wide contest to

develop a new flavour of Lay's potato chips. He got the idea while cooking maple

ham one day, and tried the same with moose meat.

The online and texting voting process for the favourite finalist flavour

began on July 30, 2013 and ended on October 16, 2013. Tyler's unique flavour

beat out other top entries from across Canada and he won a $50,000 grand prize

plus 1 per cent of the overall sales of the chips as long as they are sold.

Tyler is the son of Calvin and Linda LeFrense of Isle aux Morts and he has a

three-year-old daughter, Erin. He was recently elected Deputy Mayor of Isle aux

Morts and is a member of the community centre committee.

Mr. Speaker, I ask all members of this House to join with me in paying

tribute to Tyler LeFrense, one of our own, who has done us all proud. Way to go,

Tyler!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: I want to, at this point, acknowledge a special guest in the

gallery this evening, Major Lorne Pritchett of the Salvation Army.

Welcome to our gallery, Sir.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Ministerial Statements.

Statements by Ministers

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Tourism, Culture and Recreation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. FRENCH: Mr. Speaker, for more than twenty years, Music Newfoundland

and Labrador has played a significant role in supporting and encouraging

musicians in this Province. On Sunday evening, I had the opportunity to attend

their 2013 awards gala in Gander, an event which was the culmination of a week

of workshops, roundtable discussions, songwriters' circles and other activities

dedicated to musical artists in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Some of the awards presented this year include The Once, as Entertainer of

the Year, while Ennis received the FACTOR Album of the Year and Canadian AV

Group of the Year. Amelia Curran received SOCAN Songwriter of the Year, and

Folk/Roots Artist/Group of the Year. Some of the genre specific awards presented

included the Idlers, as Alternative Artist or Group of the Year, and

RocketRocketShip as Pop/Rock Artist/Group of the Year.

Mr. Speaker, I had the distinguished pleasure of presenting the Lifetime

Achievement Award to Maxine Stanley of Grand Falls-Windsor at the gala awards.

Ms Stanley was honoured for a lifetime dedicated to advancing the arts,

particularly choral music, in the Province. She has conducted the Bel Canto

Singers for more than thirty years and has served on the board of directors of

numerous arts and culture-based institutions, such as the Newfoundland and

Labrador Arts Council, and The Rooms. The Lifetime Achievement Award is a

wonderful means by which we can celebrate the outstanding contributions of

leaders such as Ms Stanley who have contributed tremendously to the Newfoundland

and Labrador music community.

The amount of musical talent in Newfoundland and Labrador, both established

and emerging, is remarkable, Mr. Speaker, and opportunities to showcase this

talent, such as Music NL's conference and awards gala is certainly very

important. Music artists are provided with the opportunity to work with industry

professionals, hone their skills and learn how to successfully promote their

music. At the same time, the public is given an opportunity to get a peek at

some of our most promising rising stars which I have to say, Mr. Speaker, was

one of the things that certainly blew me away at that conference this weekend.

Mr. Speaker, our Province's music sector is an important contributor to our

cultural industries, and our government is proud to support MusicNL with

$350,000 annually. Since the launch of Creative Newfoundland and Labrador, our

government has also invested $87 million through the plan to promote culture and

heritage, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. FRENCH: Undoubtedly, these investments have contributed to the

outstanding performances by artists of all genres and sectors within our

cultural community.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement today. We also on

this side would like to congratulate Music Newfoundland and Labrador for another

successful weekend. There is no doubt that there is a lot of great talent in

Newfoundland and Labrador. These types of events help the more experienced to

mentor the younger and the rookies coming on the scene. It is great to see that

the artists in Newfoundland and Labrador are being recognized and it is growing

on an annual basis.

Congratulations to all the winners at the awards last weekend, also to Ms

Stanley for the Lifetime Achievement. I always said before and I have said in

this House, there is no better recognition than when you are being recognized by

your fellows. To receive this award is a great achievement, and to be recognized

by your fellow artists is even greater because they understand the contribution

that you made.

To all the groups, congratulations, and I say to the government, yes, it is

great that you are putting money into this type of achievement. The minister

made the statement that these investments have contributed to the outstanding

performances of the artist. I feel that they have made some, but I think these

artists would make an outstanding performance with or without it because they

are great musicians on their own. Congratulations to all and congratulations to

the minister for presenting that award to Ms Stanley because it is well

deserved.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's Centre.

MS ROGERS: I thank the minister for an advance copy of his statement.

Congratulations to Maxine Stanley, Ennis, RocketRocketShip, the Idlers, Amelia

Curran, The Once, MusicNL, and all the musicians who have shared their

brilliance with us.

While government congratulates itself for supporting the arts, I would remind

them that they cancelled the school Visiting Artist Program, a program that is

so vital to young people who dare to think of a career in the arts. Many of

these winners were inspired by musicians who visited their schools and have now

gone on to be visiting artists themselves.

I urge government to reinstate funding for this very important program. Bravo

to all the musicians and to MusicNL.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the Member for St. John's North have leave?

AN HON. MEMBER: Leave.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's North.

MR. KIRBY: Thank you for the advance copy of the statement. I say to the

minister it is important to celebrate all of our music industry talent. There is

no question that the Cultural Connections program does expose Newfoundland and

Labrador students to music, art, culture, history and heritage. I would strongly

recommend that government reinstate funding for that program with the next

Budget.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for the Office of Climate

Change, Energy Efficiency and Emissions Trading.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SHEA: Mr. Speaker, I rise today to update this hon. House on the

progress made in implementing the 2011 Climate Change and Energy Efficiency

Action Plans.

Mr. Speaker, climate change is one of the greatest long-term challenges

facing the planet. All jurisdictions must be part of the solution, and I proud

Newfoundland and Labrador is committed to pursuing an environmental sound and

economically prudent path. These action plans are a key part of achieving this

balance.

Mr. Speaker, this year our Province is leading the country in economic

growth. We are achieving this while advancing action to reduce greenhouse gas

emissions by working with large industrial companies in the iron ore and

offshore oil sectors.

We are working to increase the energy efficiency of our homes and buildings

and now require new homes to meet energy-efficient standards. We have launched a

guide to help homeowners, builders, and municipalities make this happen.

Our government is leading by example with a policy stating all buildings

receiving provincial funding must be built sustainably. As a result, City Hall

in Corner Brook and Nalcor's new employee residence in Churchill Falls has

silver certification under the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design

rating system.

Mr. Speaker, we are playing our part to tackle climate change, but some

impacts are now unavoidable. That is why our government has worked with

researchers at Memorial University to better understand the coming changes and

we share that information with decision-makers in business and communities.

Our public awareness campaign on climate change Turn Back the Tide has

seen great success with 36,000 visits to its Web site alone, not to mention

widespread television and print ad exposure.

Mr. Speaker, this is just a brief overview of some of the important work

completed to date. I look forward to keeping you updated on the next phase of

our implementation plans.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for a copy of her statement in advance. Climate change

is real and our Province has to be prepared, and that is why adaptation planning

is so important.

The minister mentioned in her statement working with researchers at Memorial

University to better understand the coming changes and to inform

decision-making, but it was just last week that we discovered that government

was sitting on a coastal erosion report for two-and-a-half years, a report that

says 250 of our communities are at high risk of coastal erosion. On top of that,

there was no inventory work completed in Labrador, while experts tell us that

the Northern regions will be impacted the most.

Mr. Speaker, last week while I was asking the minister about coastal erosion,

she was answering with emissions. One thing you need to do in order to take

effective action on climate change is to understand climate change, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I appreciate the advance copy of the statement from the minister today.

Particularly evident over the last couple of days are the effects of climate

change, of course, is the situation that is happening in the Philippines right

now. I have been in communication with the Philippine community here and they

are absolutely devastated by the damage that is done over there. So we have to

be particularly aware, being a coastal nation as well, as regards to the effects

of climate change.

I would also like to tell the minister that she also has some other issues

that are coming upfront, namely fracking. Fracking has to do with all kinds of

emissions as well. There are verging issues that are here on the government's

plate and hopefully she will deal with them on a timely basis as well, Mr.

Speaker. As well, just to remind her, too, this government also practiced a

policy whereby they cut the Residential Energy Efficiency Programming here that

cut out a lot of people from helping impact climate change.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Does the Member for The Straits White Bay North have

leave?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Leave.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for an advance copy of her statement.

Just a couple of suggestions; I think government should look at adopting

smart home technology like used in some European utilities where credits are

offered to encourage using appliances, like dryers at night, in periods of low

demand and to maybe see an energy efficiency program that will benefit

non-profits as well.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Oral Questions.

Oral Questions

MR. SPEAKER: The Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: Mr. Speaker, government wants to debate a CETA deal this

afternoon but the Premier still has not honoured her commitment to table the

documents on the deal.

I ask the Premier: How can you expect us to debate this motion when you have

yet to release any information, which you committed to personally?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the CETA deal, one that we approach very cautiously as a

Province because we are not a great exporter beyond oil and fish. We felt we

might be in a precarious position with regard to these negotiations. Because of

the fine work of the negotiating team and the direction they receive, the CETA

negotiations have turned out to be extremely successful for the people of

Newfoundland and Labrador. We are very proud of that, Mr. Speaker.

In my remarks with regard to the negotiations around the CETA deal, Mr.

Speaker, I did make a commitment to table in this House our correspondence with

the federal government with regard to the negotiations of the CETA deal, and I

will keep that commitment, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: I say to the Premier, it is too bad we could not have it to

have an informed discussion today. The last time we took your word on something

without having the documentation it cost $200 million for the Grand Falls mill.

Mr. Speaker, it is clear that the Premier guards her precious, secret vault.

I ask the Premier: Will she tell the people of this Province how this $400

million fund will be allocated? Will it be allocated to research? How much to

marketing? Finally, how many job losses, as confirmed by the federal trades

minister but denied by the government?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we have a CETA Agreement-in-principle between Canada and the

European Union which now has to be translated into legal documents and come into

effect, hopefully, within a two-year period. As part of that negotiation, Mr.

Speaker, we were also able to negotiate with the federal government a $400

million fund for our fishery.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, we cannot find any evidence of any

investment into the fishery previous to this greater than $60 million. Often

those investments were described as palliative care for a fishery that was

dying. This is a fishery that will thrive and grow because of this new

investment, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Official Opposition.

MR. JOYCE: I am glad our Premier finally admitted that there are no

details on this agreement because of negotiations for the next two years.

I ask the Premier; since the Premier is still keeping the terms of this deal

secret, I ask one pointed question: Under CETA, will fish that is caught off our

shores still have to be required to be landed in our Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, any fish that is offshore is regulated by the federal

government. Right now, any fish that is landed onshore will be processed

onshore.

As the Premier mentioned, CETA, in terms of the fishery, is a game changer

for us. It is a $400 million package that for a billion dollar industry it is

unprecedented. For a billion dollar industry we are going to invest $400

million. The federal government and the Province, this Party, this government

believes in it. We are not sure what the other sides believe in, but we believe

in the fishery of Newfoundland and Labrador and the opportunities.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Humber Valley.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The federal Finance minister said yesterday that Ottawa is open to discussing

a potential sale of their 8.5 per cent Hibernia share. This is welcomed news to

this side of the House.

So I ask the Premier: Can you provide any further details on this, such as

the status of the talks with the federal government and what would be the price

range for this potential sale?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, this government has stated publicly a number of times, and in

this House a number of times, that we are very interested in purchasing the

equity stake that is held by the federal government. In fact, we have made

several bids for the stake. The negotiations were not successful up to this

point.

We are very glad to hear the Finance Minister say they are prepared to open

discussions again. We will enter into that discussion. Our primary mandate, as

it is with everything else, will be to do what is in the best interests of the

people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Humber Valley.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Part two of the federal government's profit from Hibernia comes from the 10

per cent net profits interest. Back in 2007, the former Premier said that this

was really a royalty regime on the provincial resource and should be provincial

revenue.

I ask the Premier: Is the Province still interested in obtaining the federal

government's 10 per cent net profits interest, and is this part of this

discussion?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we are interested in the whole package or part of the package,

whatever the federal government is prepared to put on the table, if it is at

fair market value. So the product has to be valuated properly in the same way

that these kinds of things are done throughout the industry. If the price is

fair and the return is going to be good for the people of Newfoundland and

Labrador, we are very interested.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Humber Valley.

MR. BALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is now clear that, under the Muskrat Falls Project, Nalcor plans to build

more wind and more hydro plants in our Province to satisfy the needs of Nova

Scotia.

I ask the Premier: Why are these additional plans not reviewed by your

consultant Manitoba Hydro as part of the Muskrat Falls Project?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, building more wind and small hydro is not a part

of the agreements with Nova Scotia. Nalcor has always stated that we are going

to develop Muskrat Falls for the interest of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

We are going to have an opportunity to have a least-cost option and to lower the

utility rates in this Province, but at the same time we are going to have excess

power that we are going to be able to sell and make money for the people of the

Province.

I suspect from the continuous questioning, Mr. Speaker, they would prefer we

just flow that and not deal with Nova Scotia. Let the water flow. We are going

to sell that excess power to Nova Scotia. Nalcor has always said and we believe

that when we get to a point in this Province where we use all of our energy, we

use it for industrial development, commercial needs as well as our residential

needs, we will build more. We will do what we have to do because it is for the

best interests of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Humber Valley.

MR. BALL: I ask the minister the question; you just said it was for the

best interests of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Do you plan to build more wind power and more hydro plants to meet the

condition in the UARB that has been said in the media already? Will you build

those plants?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, we are not entering into contracts or making

agreements that we cannot keep. We know that we have a firm power supply to meet

the needs of the people of the Province. We know we have excess power that we

can recall at any time but we are going to sell and make money for the Province.

Mr. Speaker, beyond that we have non-firm power which, due to accumulation of

rain and snow in this Province, we are going to have excess power. Power which

we want to sell to make money; power which our critics in the Opposition said

there is no market for. There is a market. The market happened to be in Nova

Scotia, Mr. Speaker. They want access to it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, we are going to sell that power; we have that

power. The only way we are not going to have it is if it does not rain or snow

for twenty-four years.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Humber Valley.

MR. BALL: I will tell you about excess power. The minister has said that

building additional plants will only be required if the capacity at Muskrat

Falls is used. The minister's own mining report says that all the capacity at

Muskrat Falls will be needed by when 2020.

I ask the minister: Do you still believe your own mining report that was just

released last year, or are you giving up on the mining industry in Labrador?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, what we are developing there are two

fundamental principles; it is about Newfoundlanders and Labradorians and our

needs, and we are committed to meet that need; secondly, that we are not

subsidizing power going into Nova Scotia. We are not building power at the

expense of Newfoundland and Labrador and send it into Nova Scotia for free.

What we are committing to is that we will meet the needs of this Province. We

believe through Muskrat Falls, Mr. Speaker, we can do that, and any excess power

we will sell and enter into agreements to make money for the Province.

We retain the right to recall the power, to use the power as we need it, Mr.

Speaker. I can tell you, it is going to be a great day in this Province if we

get to the point where we have to use all of our power and have to create more.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, on May 29, 2013 the former Minister of

Fisheries said that his government had conducted investigations into forty on

land aquaculture sites and they proved to be uneconomically viable. I did an

ATIPP request just to check the facts of the minister, and the deputy minister

came back in August and said they had done no such research.

Yesterday, the former minister again repeated what he had said in May, that

they had done research and (inaudible) that they were not economically viable.

I ask the current Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture: Has your government

done any research into onshore aquaculture to determine economic viability; and,

if so, will you provide us with those reports?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, on land aquaculture, we have done some analysis in terms of the

cost of that, in terms of energy, in terms of growing those fish in pens on

land. We have known from other jurisdictions and around the world some

discussions on that. It is not economically viable.

We know the industry we have on the South Coast and how it is growing. It was

$110 million two years ago, $120 million last year; this year, it is expected to

be $180 million. It is a growing industry; 1,000 people employed. That is not

including the supply chain that supplies that industry. It is an industry that

is working, it is growing on the South Coast, it is in rural Newfoundland and

Labrador, we support it and we are going to continue to grow it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Mr. Speaker, if the minister has done any such research,

then I will ask him to supply the results of that research.

In May 2013 the Province of Nova Scotia put in place a regulatory panel

headed by two environmental law experts to balance the opposing interests in

aquaculture and to ensure their province has a more environmentally, socially,

and economically sustainable aquaculture industry.

I ask the minister: Will his government show similar leadership and appoint

an independent panel to help government do what is best for our Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HUTCHINGS: Mr. Speaker, over the last number of years, we continue to

grow our industry. We are moving forward with a bay management plan now. We have

consulted with industry, with the industry groups. We have gone back to them

with the details of that. We expect to have that signed off later in the year.

In addition, in 2010 I believe, the Veterinary College in Prince Edward

Island did an evaluation of the protocols for biosecurity, compared New

Brunswick, British Columbia, Newfoundland and Labrador and found Newfoundland

and Labrador certainly led the way in biosecurity.

Together, we are working with industry, working with the players, continuing

to build an industry in the Province that is leading the way. We are proud of

it, it is doing well, and we are going to continue to do it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, the RNC is concerned about rising violence

in the St. John's area, with many of the recent homicides as a result of

domestic violence. Budget 2013 cut the Family Violence Intervention Court. The

Minister of Justice called it a dollar-and-cents decision and not a priority

with the Budget.

I ask the minister: Given the RNC's concerns, will you re-establish the

Family Violence Intervention Court?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance and President of Treasury

Board.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Everyone in this House takes very seriously the work that our police force do

in the administration of justice in this Province the RNC and the RCMP.

Mr. Speaker, we have indicated to police Chief Johnston, and I know with the

Commissioner of the RCMP as well I know the Minister of Justice meets with

them periodically to ensure that they have all the resources they need to carry

out their duties.

Mr. Speaker, since 2004 this government has put $920 million into policing in

this Province

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: including an additional 144 police officers, an

additional forty-eight support staff, and we will continue to work with the

police to ensure that they have the resources they need (inaudible)

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, I would say, actually, the funding to the

RCMP was cut by over $2 million last year.

We also know the rise in violent crime is related to addictions issues. The

2011 PC Bluebook committed to establishing a drug treatment court. Two years

later, no funds have been allocated to this desperately needed court.

So I ask the minister: When will you implement this much needed service for

the people with addictions?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance and President of Treasury

Board.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, no government in the history of this Province

has put more money into the administration of justice in this Province, and all

aspects of the system.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MARSHALL: We started off when we came into office and we found the

justice system in an absolute mess. We had to start off with policing, we had to

add prosecutors, we had to add Legal Aid lawyers, and we had to improve Victim

Services and probation. Mr. Speaker, we have done that, the facts speak for

themselves, and we will continue to do so.

Just last week, I think, a new joint police force was set up in Central

Newfoundland that will improve investigation of serious crime in this Province.

Mr. Speaker, we are awaiting now reports from Leigh DesRoches on the Sheriff's

Office, and John Rorke on the Legal Aid, so that we will continue to put more

services and more resources to enhance the administration of justice in

Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I guess that is no to both questions.

On June 20, 2012 in this House the Minister of Health and Community Services

said they were very close to finalizing a paid family caregiver program, and

that it would be announced very, very soon. That was seventeen months ago.

I ask the minister: Will you announce details on the paid family caregiver

pilot project by Christmas of this year?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yes, Mr. Speaker, I will.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Today's announcement on a new ferry is good news for Fogo and Change Islands.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. OSBORNE: However, Mr. Speaker, the announcement falls short of

government's replacement strategy, which envisioned ten ferries built in

Newfoundland and Labrador. We have seen large-scale projects at Bull Arm for the

oil industry where components were built right here.

Why did government not ensure that components of these ferries would be built

in Newfoundland and Labrador?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It certainly is a great day for the ferry system in Newfoundland and

Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Mr. Speaker, when we were making the choices as to where the

ferry would be built there were four things we took into consideration: number

one was capacity, number two time frames, number three was the price, of course,

and number four was technology. Damen Shipyards came in acing all four of those

components.

We looked at having the ships built in Canada, or components of, and the

price factor went up quite a bit. In negotiating with Damen, what we have done

now is we have secured a new company that wants to come into Atlantic Canada,

specifically Newfoundland and Labrador, to open an industry and to build new

industry in

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for St. John's South.

MR. OSBORNE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Is the minister saying they are going to open a shipyard here?

Mr. Speaker, we have developed a very skilled workforce, building components

for oil platforms. Damen shipbuilding has confirmed that the ferry will be built

in the Netherlands or Romania. There are still six months before the engineering

work is complete. You still have time, I say to the minister, to ensure that

Damen shipbuilding uses all available provincial resources when constructing

these ferries, including having components build right here.

Will you ensure they do that?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I stated earlier, and if the member opposite had listened

carefully to what the representative from Damen Shipyards commented today, they

are very interested in increasing their capacity in Newfoundland and Labrador

and working with Newfoundlanders and Labradorians to ensure that in the future

components of the ships and future ships will be built here in Newfoundland and

Labrador.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, we are still waiting for the RFP for

replacement of two Labrador ferries, the Apollo and the Northern

Ranger . Today's announcement of two Island-based vessels with delivery dates

of 2015 and 2016 comes after a lengthy RFP process.

I ask the minister: Can you also guarantee the people of Labrador two new

replacement vessels for the Apollo and the Northern Ranger by 2016

as committed?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, shame on the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair for

separating Newfoundland and Labrador. Many of us on this side of government have

been too long trying to make sure that it is recognized as one Province,

Newfoundland and Labrador; so shame on the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au

Clair.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. MCGRATH: Mr. Speaker, we are working very hard on working on the RFP

to have the ferries replaced in Labrador. Right now, we are hoping that by 2016

those ferries will be replaced.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, I must watch the news too much and all the talk

of the Island owning Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, traffic on the Apollo has already exceeded capacity, and

based on the past two seasons the reliability of the Northern Ranger is

very poor.

I ask the minister: Knowing that 2016 is no longer realistic for two new

replacement vessels, what contingency plan is in place to ensure Labrador has

the same quality of service as the Island, since we are the same Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. MCGRATH: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as I have stated to the member opposite in the past few days

here in the House of Assembly, we are working diligently to have an RFP out at

the end of this year, and we do have a contingency plan in place. Perhaps the

Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair should consider the $450 million that

was invested into the Trans-Labrador Highway by this government to improve

transportation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, Nalcor, contractors, and the unions are all

giving different stories on why Newfoundlanders and Labradorians cannot get work

at Muskrat Falls.

I ask the Premier: Why is there no consistency in hiring on this project, and

who has the ultimate responsibility to ensure that the benefit plan is followed?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, consistency is something we should all

strive for, particularly in this House.

Last week, Mr. Speaker, we heard the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair

talk about the fact that people in her district could not get jobs on Muskrat

Falls, almost in the same breath she spoke about the fact that small business

could not hire people in her district because they had to compete with Muskrat

Falls for labourers and pay as high as $50 an hour, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, most recently a significant contract in millions and millions

and millions of dollars was let to a company in her district to build a project

in Forteau, the owner of which is one of her greatest supporters in Labrador.

Are you telling me he will not hire his own people in Cartwright L'Anse au

Clair?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The member has time for a quick question without any

preamble.

MS DEMPSTER: I ask the Premier: When will Nalcor honour its benefits

agreements and get more people from our Province and more Labradorians working

at Muskrat Falls?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier for a quick response.

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, all benefits agreements are honoured. I am happy to say that

representatives of the Innu Nation are on the project site on a daily basis to

ensure that happens.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the CETA deal extending the patent on drugs could cost this

Province up to $20 million annually. British Columbia and Ontario already have

federal government commitments for compensation for this increased cost.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier: Has she received a similar promise from the

federal government to cover the added cost to the people of this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, our objective, as it is with anything that we are doing in terms

of drug costs in this Province, has to do with ensuring the lowest cost. The

federal government will compensate for any additional costs that we might

possibly incur over the next few years. There will be absolutely no ill effects

felt in this Province and we are guaranteed that until 2023.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

What are they going to do about compensation from the federal government when

it is needed, Mr. Speaker, because I really question what the minister has just

said?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, I have no idea what that comment meant. I do

not know if she is questioning the provincial Government of Newfoundland and

Labrador and our integrity. I do not know if she is questioning the federal

government and their integrity, or if it is my own personal integrity. I am

really not sure what it is she is questioning.

What we have here, Mr. Speaker, is what we have learned from the federal

government regarding this particular deal, and that is there will be no ill

effects felt in this Province at all. That is guaranteed until 2023.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I am questioning the facts as they were presented. I would like to see that.

I would like to see something presented here in this House that shows that, Mr.

Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS MICHAEL: Seniors on fixed incomes feel the financial squeeze from

rising heating, food and housing costs which Muskrat Falls will make worse. The

CETA agreement on drugs is yet another financial hit they may face.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier: Does she have a plan to help seniors and

others cope with rising drug costs due to CETA, because it is going to happen?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Advanced Education and Skills.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

As noted in my speaking in the House yesterday, I noted all the investments

we have made in seniors and affordable housing in Newfoundland and Labrador to

date. As a matter of fact, one of the areas we invest in is the Rent Supplement

Program, which we have doubled over the last number of years to $8 million per

year; plus we have the REEP program as well. That is all helping seniors afford

housing in this Province and deal with the needs they encounter on a daily

basis, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

News reports indicate that the federal government has kept secret documents

which may reveal how much more people will have to pay for drugs under the CETA

deal.

I am asking the Premier: Has she obtained this information and kept it from

the general public?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would ask her to table those

documents because they are not documents that we have.

Mr. Speaker, what we have with regard to the CETA deal around patent

protection on brand name drugs is they have guaranteed us that compensation will

be paid to the provinces if need be and that that will be in place until 2023. I

do not know what she is referring to but I am asking her to table it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am asking them to table it if the federal government has given them

something.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS MICHAEL: Today in the news, Finance Minister Flaherty is stating he is

open to discussing the potential sale of the federal government's stake in

Hibernia. In 2010, Premier Williams offered to buy the 8.5 per cent share of the

oil field when the current Premier was Minister of Natural Resources.

I ask the Premier: Has she entered into negotiations to buy back the 8.5 per

cent share?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Third Party just answered her own question. We

opened negotiations with the federal government some time ago on purchasing the

shares. We were not able to arrive at an evaluation that we agreed to, Mr.

Speaker, that we felt would be in the best interest of the people of

Newfoundland and Labrador. So there has been a hiatus for sure in the

discussions.

I am delighted to hear that Minister Flaherty and the federal government are

prepared to re-enter into those negotiations, Mr. Speaker. If we can get a deal

that works for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador we will be more than

happy to purchase those shares because they will be of great value to the people

of this Province, if the price is right.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Under Bill 29 proprietary information may be considered out of bounds for

public knowledge and that may include a toxic soup of fracking chemicals.

How does government plan to allow the full disclosure of fracking chemicals

under the law?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, I am not sure if he is talking about fracking

soup? I do not know.

Mr. Speaker, I think our commitment has been clear to the people of the

Province and to industry of where we are with hydraulic fracturing. We will do a

comprehensive internal review. We will take all of that information, we will

look at that information, analyze it in the best interests of the health and

safety of the people of the Province, in the interest of the environment of the

Province, Mr. Speaker, and I can assure you in the interest of economic

development.

When we look at all that, Mr. Speaker, that will inform our next steps in

which we can be assured that we will do some public consultation so that

collectively we have the right information, we have a balanced view, and then

decisions will be made beyond that, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. John's East, time for a very

quick question without

preamble.

MR. MURPHY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Will they come out with another act to ensure the full disclosure of fracking

chemicals or are they still going to stick with Bill 29?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources, a quick

response.

MR. DALLEY: Mr. Speaker, it is amazing that they will connect Bill 29 to

a very open and transparent process. Obviously they are confused, Mr. Speaker.

Either they do not understand Bill 29, or they do not understand what we are

doing with hydraulic fracturing. It is a very open process, Mr. Speaker, and

when we get the information we will go public and certainly share all that with

the public.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time for Question Period has expired.

Presenting Reports by Standing and Select Committees.

Tabling of Documents.

Notices of Motion.

Answers to Questions for which Notice has been Given.

Petitions.

Petitions

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for The Straits White Bay North.

MR. MITCHELMORE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador in

Parliament Assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents of Newfoundland

and Labrador humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS government has a responsibility to ensure that Internet access is

broadly available to people, have the right to be able to access the Internet in

order to exercise and enjoy their rights of freedom of expression and opinion

and other fundamental human rights; and

WHEREAS Great Brehat still remains without broadband services; and

WHEREAS residents rely on Internet services

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. MITCHELMORE: for education, business, communication and social

activity; and

WHEREAS wireless and wired technologies exist to provide broadband service to

rural communities to replace slower dial-up service;

We the undersigned, petition the House of Assembly to urge the government to

assist providers to ensure that Great Brehat is in receipt of broadband Internet

services in Newfoundland and Labrador.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, I have a number of petitions here that were signed by

constituents in this community who are concerned they are not able to tap into

broadband Internet services so they can avail of and enjoy what many other

Newfoundlanders and Labradorians and many Canadians can. The federal government

has passed legislation to look at making broadband accessible by year 2017.

We really need to move towards making sure that we have the plan and we are

adapting the wireless and wired technologies to make sure these smaller

communities have access to broadband, and at a reliable and acceptable speed.

Great Brehat, St. Carols, and St. Anthony Bight are all in a cluster. They are

very close to each other, so there is a great opportunity to map and provide

using wireless technology to ensure that these communities receive broadband

Internet.

So, Mr. Speaker, I will put this forward to the House and look forward to

working with the minister and with government to see that we can look at

accessing broadband for the community of Great Brehat.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: To the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS Cartwright is an existing port of call for the MV Northern Ranger ;

and

WHEREAS Cartwright is connected to the Trans-Labrador Highway, providing

access to truck freight destined for the North Coast of Labrador; and

WHEREAS Cartwright would eliminate unnecessary travel and cost for freight

destined for Northern Labrador now being trucked to Happy Valley-Goose Bay; and

WHEREAS there has always been, and continues to be, commercial trade between

the South and North Coast of Labrador;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to

designate Cartwright as a shipping port for freight destined to the North Coast

of Labrador, beginning with the 2014 shipping season.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

It is dated November 5, 2013.

Mr. Speaker, this past season in my district has been nothing more than an

absolute royal mess. What the businesses in my district are asking for does not

even mean extra money. It is just asking for a will on the part of government to

provide a service to the people of the North Coast.

We have a boat that goes in Cartwright, yet we have businesses that are

shipping to the North Coast that have to drive past Cartwright an extra 600 or

700 kilometres on a dirty gravel road to ship out of Goose Bay. Myself, and my

colleague for Torngat, we have been inundated with calls over the past number of

months from businesses.

It is very unfortunate that the people on the North Coast are paying an extra

$600 or $700 even on a single item like a snow machine because they cannot ship

out of Cartwright. If I go into Cartwright and I am travelling to Black Tickle I

can take my four wheeler, but if I am travelling to Makkovik I cannot take my

four wheeler. There is something wrong with that. We are not asking for extra

money, just a service, Mr. Speaker.

Just the other day I received a call from people trying to do business in my

district with the North Coast doing jobs up there. They are going to Cartwright,

they are shipping their goods to Rigolet, and they are having someone take it

off, put it back on the boat and ship it to Makkovik. What a fiasco that is,

just because there is no will.

People on the Island can drive on a paved road to Lewisporte and ship to

anywhere they want on the North Coast but the people of Labrador have to drive

right to Happy Valley, and it is not good enough. I am happy to present this

petition here today for these people.

I hope that in 2014 we will see a change. A lot of times the things that we

are looking for do not require extra money, it is just smarter spending, Mr.

Speaker.

Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: A petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the

undersigned humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS there is no cellphone service in the Town of Trout River, which is an

enclave community in Gros Morne National Park; and

WHEREAS visitors to Gros Morne National Park, more than 100,000 annually,

expect to communicate by cellphone when they visit the park; and

WHEREAS cellphone service has become a very important aspect of every day

living for residents; and

WHEREAS cellphone service is an essential safety tool for visitors and

residents; and

WHEREAS cellphone service is essential for business development;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to partner with the private sector to extend cellphone

coverage throughout Gros Morne National Park, and the enclave community of Trout

River.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Mr. Speaker, Trout River just received a Tidy Towns Award for being such a

unique, interesting place. It also has a fabulous restaurant. You can go into

the restaurant in the summertime and you can read the names of visitors and

comments that they make, people like David Suzuki, prominent people from all

over Canada and the rest of the world. So they go to Trout River, they go to

Gros Morne National Park and if they try to use the cellphone to call anybody,

to call home, there is no response.

The residents of Trout River would more than gladly pay an additional fee, an

additional cost, and I have had that discussion with them that it might cost

more for their service if they were to have it. They would absolutely be

committed to pay additional costs per month on a monthly cellphone bill. The

whole town could be served with one cellphone tower and they are asking for

government to partner with the private sector and give them cellphone service.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Burgeo La Poile.

MR. A. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

A petition to the hon. House of Assembly of the Province of Newfoundland and

Labrador in Parliament assembled, the petition of the undersigned residents

humbly sheweth:

WHEREAS the residents of Burgeo, Ramea, Grey River, and Franois must use

Route 480 on a regular basis for work, medical, educational and social reasons;

and

WEHREAS Route 480 is in deplorable condition, such that the shoulders

continuously wash away and there are huge potholes; and

WHEREAS the condition of the road poses a safety hazard for residents and

visitors; and

WHEREAS the Department of Transportation is responsible for maintenance and

repairs; and

WHEREAS the local division does make periodic repairs to this route but these

are only temporary patchwork and the road needs to be resurfaced;

WHEREUPON the undersigned, your petitioners, humbly pray and call upon the

House of Assembly to urge the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador to support

the users of Route 480 in their request to have Route 480 resurfaced.

As in duty bound, your petitioners will ever pray.

Now, Mr. Speaker, again I stand up and talk about the Burgeo road which has

not been given enough attention. I did recognize yesterday that the current

Minister of Transportation did make sure that the washout that occurred back in

June has been fixed. It took us six months. Again, I give the minister credit

because when I brought it to his attention he made sure it was done. How it took

six months before that I will just say that I am glad this new minister got in

because he made sure that it was done.

Mr. Speaker, however, this road is 150 kilometres long, a lot of it is in

very, very terrible condition. We have a road that has no cell service. Again,

we are facing a safety concern. It is a deterrent to tourism. It is a deterrent

to economic development. It is a deterrent to everything. Cellphone service is

one thing, but we actually need a road that is fit to travel on.

So again, Mr. Speaker, I put this petition in and I look forward to working

with the minister.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Orders of the Day

Private Members' Day

MR. SPEAKER: This being Private Member's Day, I now call upon the Member

for Bonavista South to introduce the motion that stands on the Order Paper.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: Mr. Speaker, on Tuesday I moved a resolution, seconded by the

Member for the District of Port de Grave, the following private member's

resolution:

BE IT RESOLVED that this hon. House

(1) acknowledges the tremendous importance to Newfoundland and Labrador of

the terms of the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement-in-principle, CETA,

between Canada and the European Union for which the provincial government

successfully advocated; and

(2) supports the decision of the federal and provincial governments to

establish a $400 million fund to improve our fishing industry's global

competitiveness to capitalize more fully on the phenomenal opportunities that

CETA will generate for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

Mr. Speaker, the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement-in-principle,

CETA, reached between Canada and the European Union will bring tremendous

benefit for Newfoundlanders and Labrador, and is a significant achievement for

the people of our Province. More than 19,000 Newfoundlanders and Labradorians

currently employed in the provincial fishing and aquaculture industry, primarily

in rural areas of the Province, such as my district, will benefit directly from

new opportunities created by CETA.

The agreement will facilitate the attraction of foreign direct investment,

which is critical to maintaining economic expansion all across economic sectors

within the Province natural resources, ocean sciences, forestry. When CETA

comes into effect, it will provide significant benefits for all Newfoundlanders

and Labradorians, particularly in the fishery. This is certainly going to be

beneficial to my District of Bonavista South, where the fishing industry is

integral to our local economy.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: To ensure that industry is prepared to take advantage of the

opportunities presented by new market access, the provincial and federal

governments have agreed to cost-share a $400 million fishing industry transition

AN HON. MEMBER: How much?

MR. LITTLE: Four hundred million dollar fishing industry transition fund,

Mr. Speaker.

The fund will be used to invest in research and development, new marketing

initiatives, fisheries research, and enhancements to provincial fisheries

infrastructure all with the goal of improving the industries capacity to

compete globally. Working in consultation with industry, we will seize the

opportunities emerging from this Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement. We

will provide support to processors, both large and small, to help them

successfully enter new markets. We will help harvesters pursue innovations and

efficiencies with large harvesting technology. We will support the development

of new value-added products throughout Europe.

This unprecedented level of investment in Newfoundland and Labrador's fishing

sector is a game changing development, one that puts us in a tremendous position

to establish our products throughout Europe quickly while pursuing continuous

improvements in every facet of the industry.

This funding is planned to roll out when CETA comes into force, which is

expected to be 2015. This two-year period provides ample time for the provincial

government to collaborate with industry and determine the best ways to allocate

the fund to improve the global competitiveness of the provincial fishery.

The fishing industry is a $1 billion industry right now. In the coming future

we will see an infusion of $400 million investment in the fishing industry which

is substantial a $1 billion industry right now and an infusion of $400 million

going into that particular industry. This is substantial, Mr. Speaker.

These trade negotiations presented a unique opportunity to eliminate tariffs

and to address non-tariff barriers that have impeded provincial seafood products

from entering the valuable European market. This has been a goal for the

Province's fishing industry for decades, Mr. Speaker, and now this goal has been

accomplished.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLE: The elimination of tariffs will result in significant

benefits for rural communities whose fish and seafood processors have

experienced high tariffs when exporting products to the European Union.

The immediate elimination of tariffs with no restrictions, such as further

processing requirements in EU countries, will permit Newfoundland and Labrador

producers to develop new value-added seafood products which can create

additional processing employment opportunities, particularly in rural

Newfoundland and Labrador.

The industry will definitely move forward and succeed because of the

elimination of tariffs, Mr. Speaker. This will be a positive for all fishing

industry workers, such as plant workers, harvesters and processors, a win-win

situation for all those people involved in the fishing industry in Newfoundland

and Labrador.

Newfoundland and Labrador seafood processors will now be free to produce

consumer ready products that can be branded and thus marketed for greater added

value, which is another bonus, Mr. Speaker. It was critical that this Province

ensure obligations in CETA that did not undermine the policies in this Province

that are central to economic development, such as those that flow from the

Atlantic Accords or the ability to procure for the purposes of regional economic

development, these policies are not eliminated because of CETA, Mr. Speaker.

We will maintain our minimum processing requirements but we have agreed to

grant requests from licensed seafood processors wishing to sell unprocessed fish

and seafood to EU seafood processing interests. The Province elected to make

this move based on our confidence that Newfoundland and Labrador seafood

processors already hold a strong comparative advantage over the EU based seafood

processors.

Our industry will now have the level playing field it needs to grow and to

thrive. We consulted with key fishing industry interests who supported this

concession in favour of the accelerated removal of the tariffs, Mr. Speaker.

This was a great accomplishment and certainly will pay dividends in years and

years to come.

The EU is a huge market for Newfoundland and Labrador cold water shrimp and

white fish products. Provincial producers of these products will now be able to

diversify into different market segments and brand these products for the EU

marketplace. The immediate elimination of the tariff on frozen, sectioned snow

crab will open markets and provide new opportunities to diversify away from

traditional USA and Japanese markets.

This is a new market, a market that is very competitive, a market that will

help the seafood industry in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador, Mr.

Speaker. Producers in our Province will now be able to compete with Norway and

Iceland for pelagic markets in Europe, Mr. Speaker. The immediate elimination of

tariffs on flounder will provide significant opportunities as Europeans are

major consumers of flatfish products.

The EU, the European Union, with its twenty-eight member states, 500 million

people, and an annual economic activity of almost $17 trillion is the largest

and most lucrative market in the world. The average per capita consumption of

seafood is roughly three times that of North America. It is also the world's

largest important market of goods. As the knowledge-based service economy

continues to develop in Newfoundland and Labrador, it is critical that we

continue to attract foreign direct investment and expand markets for service

providers, oil, gas, and the service industry, et cetera.

CETA will not only provide preferential access for Newfoundland and Labrador

goods and service providers throughout the European market; it also means our

Province's service providers will not be placed at a competitive disadvantage

when the EU enters trade agreements with our competitors. This is because CETA

contains a most favoured nation commitment, whereby Canada will gain comparable

benefit if the EU provides better treatment to any other trading partner, such

as the US with whom they are already negotiating. Mr. Speaker, this is another

great accomplishment in CETA.

CETA includes mechanisms for dealing with non-tariff barriers which can

restrict access even when market access commitments have been achieved. For

example, standards and labelling rules can in certain circumstances act as

discriminatory barriers to trade. CETA will provide the Province with the

ability to pre-emptively question and challenge non-tariff barriers in the

European markets.

Fish and seafood is very important to the rural parts of Newfoundland and

Labrador. Our government has negotiated terms with the federal government that

provides our provincial fishing industry with unprecedented access to the

European market. For years and years the fishing industry in our Province has

been at a competitive disadvantage because of tariffs placed on our fish and

seafood entering the European market, ranging from 8 per cent to 20 per cent on

species such as shrimp, cod, and crab. Meanwhile, our competitors, such as

Greenland, Norway, and Iceland, have long enjoyed effective duty-free access.

Most noteworthy and burdensome of our industry has been the 20 per cent

tariff on cooked and peeled shrimp. It is important to note that the two most

important species for the provincial fishery at this point in time, shrimp and

crab, will be duty-free immediately upon CETA coming into effect a very

important point, Mr. Speaker. The elimination of tariffs is expected to have an

immediate impact on economic development in the rural regions of the Province of

Newfoundland and Labrador, creating employment opportunities and supporting

market and product diversification in the fishing industry, Mr. Speaker.

Newfoundland and Labrador producers will now be able to diversify into

different market segments and brand products for the European market.

Immediately, duty-free access will be provided to the EU with over 500 million

people and an average fish consumption of over twenty-one kilograms per capita,

per year, which offers tremendous opportunity for provincial seafood producers

in this Province, Mr. Speaker.

The market is becoming increasingly conscious of food security and resource

sustainability leading to an aversion of low-cost suppliers who cannot meet food

security traceability requirements. Newfoundland and Labrador fish and seafood

producers are able to meet this demanding security, traceability, and

sustainability for the key fish and seafood products that is needed in the

European market.

Increased market access to the European Union will reduce our dependency on

current markets, which will support higher prices, as other markets, such as the

USA and Japan who compete for Newfoundland and Labrador producer supplies. This

will also result in greater returns for provincial fish and seafood. Our

government remains focused on maximizing the economic benefit for our fishery

for the people of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

This is an excellent opportunity for the Opposition to try to help the

government get something right. That would be, in this case, the private

member's resolution they are putting forth now. The reason we have real concerns

about the government negotiating this deal is that we know we can trust their

intentions because we know they mean well, but watching this government do a

deal is like watching a child on a bicycle with training wheels out on a

four-lane highway; we know they are going to get run over. Who is driving the

truck? Stephen Harper. We know you cannot trust him.

So this is a government who has demonstrated repeated incompetence in

practically everything they have touched, and even more so in the fishery than

in any other area. The Opposition would really be remiss if we did not help the

government along a little bit with this private member's resolution.

First and foremost, this party is very much in favour of free trade, has

always been very much in favour of free trade, and will continue to be in favour

of free trade, but free trade does not mean giving away everything.

Mr. Speaker, mature economies do not give away their natural resources.

Mature economies keep their natural resources so they can develop their

economies and so they can grow their population, not what we have done under

this government, because we have seen no population growth in ten years. We have

seen population growth strategies, but a population growth strategy is not

population growth. As a matter of fact, this Province has shrunk in population

since the early 1970s, and most of those decades have been under the

administration of the party represented by the government opposite.

So when we hear this government making deals or doing things in haste, the

type of nightmare that we envision when they stumble into some sort of

negotiation with the federal government is the type of nightmare when our

Opposition Party spontaneously and automatically endorsed the Abitibi disaster

in Grand Falls. Under the promises and the commitment of the government, we

unwittingly expropriated a paper mill, and a paper mill that was not much better

than a toxic dump.

The amount of the fallout and the dollar cost to the taxpayers of this

Province has not yet been quantified, but not only did they get that part of it

wrong, they brought on a NAFTA challenge and the NAFTA challenge was because

under NAFTA this government was not permitted to expropriate an international

asset without paying compensation. Abitibi having US interests, the Abitibi

company launched a challenge under NAFTA. We were fortunate enough that the

federal government was able to come in with $135 million in a chequebook to

correct the mistake this government made in the expropriation in the first

place. It was an illegal expropriation under NAFTA.

Now we have them with another free trade agreement, CETA. They say they have

done wonderful negotiation, and we wonder have they really done wonderful

negotiation. My reservations about their ability to negotiate and the fact of

their negotiation goes right back to the very first briefing I had under CETA.

As the critic for IBRD I was entitled to and received a briefing in early 2012.

Unlike the Department of Education which does not give critics briefings, IBRD

did give a briefing. They explained really the role of the provincial government

and by that time we were in the ninth round or the eleventh round of the

negotiations. They basically sat back and watched while the federal government

negotiated.

Mr. Speaker, there is no reason to believe that they have done anything

except sit back and watch the federal government negotiate for the last two,

three, or four years and now they are expecting us to rubber-stamp this deal.

If you look at the conflicting statements by the various Ministers of

Fisheries and the Premier that the immediate past I am tempted to say the

immediate past president, but the immediate past Minister of Fisheries and then

we have the past Minister of Fisheries before that and the current Minister of

Fisheries that I have dealt with as critic in the Fisheries portfolio, they have

stood firm and steadfast and they have said repeatedly how important minimum

processing requirements are to the Province.

They are absolutely the benchmark that secures 9,000 jobs and they have waxed

eloquently and the Premier, not to be outdone by any of her ministers, said

when Nigel Wright, now the much disgraced Nigel Wright from the Prime Minister's

office, telephoned her, she said she banged down the telephone because he wanted

our minimum processing requirements, the minimum processing requirements would

be done away with and this would help the feds do the deal.

She told him absolutely not. She implied, if she did not say, that the

federal government was in fact attempting to hold the loan guarantee for Muskrat

Falls over the head of provincial government to say you must give up on your

minimum processing requirements because we want CETA. We are going to give you

the Muskrat Falls guarantee; we want a quid pro quo. The Premier used the very

words: We want a quid pro quo. She said: Absolutely not; you are not going to

get our minimum processing requirements in exchange for the loan guarantee that

you promised us in good faith. She was right.

So if minimum processing requirements were so important then and they have

been so important all along, why have they all of a sudden become celebrated

that now we have given up minimum processing requirements as one of the

inducements that we have been able to provide to the people of Canada, to be

able to enter into the CETA deal so that Europeans will have greater access to

our seafood?

Mr. Speaker, it is out of an abundance of concern about this government's

ability to negotiate and it is out of a concern that the party that they are

negotiating with, the Stephen Harper government, through the now disgraced

manager, or the principal secretary in the Prime Minister's office, Mr. Wright,

who has been now originally resigned in good faith after the $90,000 payment to

Michael Duffy, Senator Duffy, and now he has been fired from the PMO, these are

the people that our Province claims to have been dealing with and now they have

come forward and they say: Oh, we have a wonderful $400 million deal.

Well, the $400 million deal, $120 million of that is our own money. When you

negotiate a deal with somebody else, you expect that you are going to get their

money. So, the $120 million is our own money from the taxpayers of this

Province, $280 million is federal government dollar, and if you divide that by

the population of 510,000 people, it is about $549 per man, woman and child in

this Province, that this Province is going to receive from the federal

government to put into the fishery in order to secure their agreement on CETA.

Where is this money going to be allocated? Where is it going to go? Well, the

Premier had a secret briefing and in that secret briefing she included various

industry representatives, but not all of them, and she included the leadership

of the Fish, Food and Allied Workers Union. We have not received any feedback as

to what they are going to receive, but the FFAW is going to get a piece of the

public money.

Industry is supposed to get some for research and also for marketing. What

the Premier has not said but the representative from the minister has said

clearly is that a certain amount of this money is for job losses, for

relocation, for people who are thrown out of work, for the most vulnerable

workers in our Province, in some of the most vulnerable towns.

This private member's resolution makes no mention whatsoever in clause 2,

it says "supports the decision of the Federal and Provincial Governments to

establish a $400 million fund to improve our fishing industry's global

competitiveness to capitalize more fully on the phenomenal opportunities that

CETA will generate for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians."

Well, in fact, we know that some of the money is earmarked for job losses;

some of the money is earmarked for relocation. Is some of this money going to be

going to plant workers who lose their businesses because of being

non-competitive under CETA?

The federal minister's representative says that some of the money to be

allocated goes to job relocation. So, if the federal government says we are

paying this amount of money for these reasons and the provincial government says

we are receiving this amount of money for different reasons, what are the people

to believe? Given the Province's very poor record in deal making with a complete

inability to demonstrate that they can do deals effectively we have seen this

week the to-ing and fro-ing of the $1,400 for the collective agreement with

their employees. When they have a lot of money and a lot of time, they have had

to go back and patch that up.

So they do not have to go back and patch this up, so the people of our

Province are not left completely in the lurch, and so that we continue to

support free trade and to give our fishing industry an opportunity to be able to

progress further, I propose the following amendment, the amendment supported by

the Member for Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

The proposed amendment says in subclause (2), before the word "supports" we

insert the words, "Subject to the Provincial Government and the Federal

Government providing further details of the CETA agreement to the people of the

province, public consultations being held regarding those details, and the CETA

agreement being finalized".

Mr. Speaker, all we are seeking with this amendment is an amendment that

recognizes the people need to be consulted in public consultations, and that we

need all of the details. Mr. Speaker, I will ask that motion, moved and

seconded, will be considered.

MR. SPEAKER: The House (inaudible) the amendment being proposed by the

Member for St. Barbe.

Recess

MR. SPEAKER: I had an opportunity to review the proposed amendment by the

Member for St. Barbe. I find that the amendment is not in order.

The hon. the Member for St. Barbe.

MR. BENNETT: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The size of the CETA agreement is only dwarfed by how small the amount of

disclosure has been that this government has provided. We know this government

is not about disclosure. We know this government introduced the official secrets

act, which people have come to call Bill 29. This is an absolute, major concern

of the Opposition: What are they sliding past us this time?

They want us to vote in support of a feel-good private member's resolution to

try to have us all, as it were, sit around a campfire and sing Kumbaya, and say

what a wonderful deal they are doing with CETA. In fact, they are not doing any

deal with CETA. The federal government is doing the CETA deal. The federal

government operated by and controlled by the Prime Minister, probably the

least-regarded Prime Minister, certainly in recent history in this Province, the

Prime Minister who people in this Province have voted against, and the same

Prime Minister this government launched an ABC campaign against only a couple of

elections ago.

Now all of a sudden they trust him absolutely. They think he has done a

wonderful deal. They have the people's rubber stamp; they are going to

rubber-stamp the deal with the European nations. This tiny Province is going to

be exposed to have our most important and historic industry, the industry that

provides food to a world, 500,000 people able to provide $1 billion worth of

food, and we are going to take a chance on this government rubber-stamping a

deal negotiated by Stephen Harper's negotiators that allows access with no

protection whatsoever for our processing sector.

Mr. Speaker, you have to wonder why? When commentators, shortly after this

deal was arrived at, said the European's would have settled for a lot less. In

contracting, when you bid too high, the contractors say you left a lot of money

on the table; you could have had a better bid.

Mr. Speaker, it is difficult to know where the federal government fell down

in negotiations that exposed this Province; or, in fact, did our Premier give up

too easily? Did our Premier simply say: well fine, we have our Muskrat deal so

we are going to let you go ahead with this?

To sweeten the pot, the half a dozen huge interests in our fishery, the same

people who have been permitted to control and corral our fishery, are the people

now who are celebrating on most high. The people in the small communities, the

people who are so dependent for small fish plants to operate, so dependent for

small open boat fisheries to operate, these are the people who are most exposed

and these are the people it seems that nobody speaks for.

I have no doubt the big players; the vertically integrated companies will do

fine. The vertically integrated companies that are both the harvesters, the

processors and the sellers, they will do absolutely fine; but what will happen

to the small players in the small communities, the 9,000 jobs that the former

Minister of Fisheries said the minimum processing requirements were designed to

protect?

Mr. Speaker, I will take my seat at this point. In absence of the amendment,

I simply cannot support this private member's resolution.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLEJOHN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I too, Mr. Speaker, watch the news at night and I am very interested in what

has been said. Outside of the Opposition critic, I have not heard a whole lot of

criticism over this CETA deal. In actual fact, Mr. Speaker, I have heard mostly

positive remarks; the majority, by far, are positive remarks.

I am pleased to stand today, Mr. Speaker, and say a few words on this motion.

I was pleased to second the motion for my hon. colleague, the Member for

Bonavista South.

Mr. Speaker, I believe this could be a great opportunity. I am going to try

over the next few minutes to outline why I believe it is a great opportunity. It

is a great opportunity to speak on an issue that is so important to my district,

the District of Port de Grave.

Mr. Speaker, the fishery has been the lifeblood of my district for hundreds

of years. It is probably the reason that all of us settled on the Port de Grave

Peninsula and in the surrounding areas. Today, in my district, there is

somewhere between seventy-five to eighty harvesters. There are three local

processors. At any given time during the crab and shrimp season, this past

season, there were at least ten different processors purchasing product off the

wharves in Port de Grave and Upper Island Cove.

Mr. Speaker, there is a significant impact of the fishery in my district that

has a significant impact on the day-to-day lives of everyone who lives in my

district. Not only the people who fish and the people who work on boats, the

people who truck, the people who have businesses, but this deal provides

opportunities.

As we go forward, Mr. Speaker I still have trouble because I think $400

million in a $1 billion industry is a significant investment. Wherever that

money is coming from, that is a significant investment. Four hundred million

dollars into our $1 billion industry, obviously, that has to be able to do some

good.

Mr. Speaker, if I could use an analogy the European Union may be what we

would consider a fish heaven. Each individual, on an average basis, consumes

twenty-one kilograms of fish product per year. That is a significant consumption

amount. There are 500 million consumers in the EU. They have a GDP of $17

trillion to spend, and it is a market that many call a luxury market. Mr.

Speaker, we could not get into it, or we have had limited access. This deal

gives us unfettered access to 500 million people and a $17 trillion investment.

By eliminating tariffs, Mr. Speaker, we get to enter this valuable market of

seafood lovers, of all kinds of species, and we can sell in there. I know the

Opposition critic talked about rural Newfoundland and Labrador. I would like to

talk about some of the things in rural Newfoundland and Labrador. I believe when

you look at this deal there are opportunities for the people in rural

Newfoundland and Labrador, and there are opportunities for people to work

longer. We are experiencing some of the highest tariffs that this country ever

saw when we try to put our products into the European Union.

Mr. Speaker, what I see, I think about a couple of small processors in my

district and we talk about the value-added product, what a great opportunity for

some of those local processors in my district: Atlantic Light Seafoods and Bay

Roberts Seafoods. These people purchase and produce consumer goods, smoked

salmon, fish cakes, fish and brewis, kippers. All of this, Mr. Speaker, these

finished products, can now go into the European Union branded with the

Newfoundland and Labrador logo on it and be sold there without tariff. What an

opportunity maybe to create more employment for these small processors, people

to produce the product.

Mr. Speaker, I believe at the end of the day that some of these small

producers who are into value-added products may have the opportunity to create

employment and create great employment, not only in my district but throughout

Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, consumer-ready products are very value added. We get a very high

rate of return on consumer products. Mr. Speaker, we have to remember that if we

can open up a market and we can ship directly into that market our products, we

are going to get a very high rate of return on that investment.

Mr. Speaker, I think that is very important. The elimination of tariffs, you

have to be competitive. We cannot compete with the Icelands and Greenlands right

now, because we are tariffed to death, basically. We have a 20 per cent tariff

on shrimp. We have a 6.6 per cent tariff on lobster. We have an 8 per cent

tariff on crab. We have a 20 per cent tariff on mackerel, Mr. Speaker.

Everything that we send into the market has a tariff, which makes it

uncompetitive, Mr. Speaker. We are very much at a disadvantage.

Mr. Speaker, just on that alone, I think we can be more competitive;

therefore, I believe there is an opportunity for our processors, big and small,

to make a difference.

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member from the Opposition kind of just talked about

tariffs and how Mr. Harper is not friendly and how he does not trust our

government and all the rest, but I want to talk about a couple of other things

that were not discussed: the potential for infrastructure. I believe the hon.

member was up last week or one of the hon. members opposite was up and talked

about the deteriorating infrastructure in our communities, the wharfs that need

to be fixed, the sheds, the storage areas.

Well, Mr. Speaker, in this agreement part of the agreement is for

infrastructure. I cannot recall which hon. member, the hon. Member for Burgeo

La Poile again, they talked about infrastructure and wharves. Mr. Speaker, I

am in the District of Port de Grave and right now I am dealing with an issue in

Upper Island Cove, a wharf that needs repair that has had some storm damage and

all the rest. That wharf needs replacement. Under this potential deal, wharves

that have been deteriorating for years will have an opportunity to be repaired

and fishermen can go back to using them safely.

Mr. Speaker, as well, I do not think the member talked a little bit about the

science. We were criticized as well because we have not done a whole lot in

science. Well, we are the only Province in the country that has our own fishery

science, and we have been doing some great work. I believe, speaking on behalf

of the seventy-five or eighty harvesters that are in my district, the

innovations that could come to harvesters through technology, new ways of

fishing, new ways of catching different types of species, and maybe even new

ways of catching crab and shrimp, I think that is very important. So science is

very important.

Also, Mr. Speaker, George Rose has been doing some great work on the tracking

of species, and in particular cod and halibut. One of the concerns, and we have

always had the concern, is about quality. We need quality. If we are going to

ship to the European Union and we are going to compete in that market, I have no

doubt that quality is going to be essential. We have to ensure the quality of

our product going into the European Union is of the utmost quality, excellent

quality.

Because of the science that George Rose is doing, I believe, Mr. Speaker, we

will have the quality. I know he has been doing a lot of work around whole cod

and big cod in the bays, tracking, and all of those things. That is going to pay

benefits in the long run. I know on the West Coast he has been doing some

tracking of halibut and all of the other things that are going on there, the

science that is going to go into there and the opportunity for us to get

significant investment back to go into science so we can use science to improve

the future fishery of Newfoundland and Labrador.

As well, Mr. Speaker, in the science area there is an opportunity here to

make sure we can monitor change. We know water temperatures are changing. We

know cod patterns are changing. With this new deal, the CETA deal, hopefully we

are going to have more money in science and we can monitor better the water

temperatures and the changing patterns of migration patterns of fish species.

As well, Mr. Speaker, through our science and technology we are building

capacity. We are building capacity where capacity never existed before because

Mr. Rose and his group at CCFI are building capacity. They have employed twenty

grad students. When this program started, there were no Newfoundlanders and

Labradorians in the program. Right now we have five Newfoundlanders and

Labradorians working in the program, building capacity in the industry, wanting

to stay here, wanting to improve the science, and wanting to improve fish

culture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. LITTLEJOHN: Mr. Speaker, I think that is important. I think that is

very important because prior to this, there was nobody nobody no

Newfoundlanders and Labradorians in this industry. Through the work of the CCFI

and through the work of Mr. Rose, we have five grad students now in the

industry.

Mr. Speaker, talking about fish plants and the opportunities with fish

plants, going back to that and employment. Mr. Speaker, we believe that through

this deal we can lengthen the season. How often have we heard about crab plants

closing and not enough hours, and people cannot get their EI and all the rest?

Well, Mr. Speaker, we believe through the elimination of tariffs that will

have an immediate economic development impact on rural areas of our Province. It

will create employment. I believe in the two plants that I talked about earlier,

in the two small processing plants, the one in Bay Roberts and the one in Port

de Grave, I believe we can get longer seasons. I think it is very important that

these tariffs come down.

As well, Mr. Speaker, we are talking about marine sustainability. The EU

talks about marine stewardship and certification. Eighty-two per cent of our

fish in Newfoundland and Labrador is marine stewardship certified. In the

European Union, environmental conservation and sustainability is very important.

Mr. Speaker, we are doing that; we have 82 per cent of our fish product in the

marine steward certification program. So I think that is also very important to

us.

Mr. Speaker, what that program does, that basically allows product to be

traced back to where it was caught. Not only back to where it was caught, but

how it was caught, and what methods it was caught, if it was caught

environmentally friendly and all the rest. So, Mr. Speaker, I think that is very

important. Environmental stewardship is a big part of this.

As we go on here, I believe that our government continues to be focused on

maximizing the net economic benefits for our people of the Province. We believe

this deal is a good deal, Mr. Speaker; $400 million provides opportunities. I

believe the $400 million will provide opportunities for us to have a sustainable

fishery of the future. If we do this right, we believe we will have a

sustainable fishery in the future.

Mr. Speaker, I was very interested on Friday, I was reading letters to the

editor and I saw an

article in there from Mr. Bill Barry, one of the processors.

He talked about different things about the deal, but he said here, "This is good

for everyone in our industry; fishermen as well as processors. The provincial

government is to be commended for hard bargaining and the federal government for

completing such a complex trade agreement" That is not my words, Mr. Speaker;

it is Mr. Barry's words.

Mr. Speaker, he also talked about, "I have also heard it said that CETA would

discriminate against small companies, while the opposite is more likely, due to

less bureaucracy and clearer rules to facilitate trade." These are not my words,

Mr. Speaker. Again, these are Mr. Barry's words about the CETA deal.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, he said, "What we need as a province is more

customers." I might add, Mr. Speaker, this is a great opportunity. This is 500

million customers with $17 trillion to spend.

Mr. Speaker, I believe this is a good deal. I was very proud to stand here

today and speak to it.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The Member for the District of Cartwright L'Anse au Clair.

MS DEMPSTER: Mr. Speaker, I have a teenage daughter at home and

oftentimes she will come to me and say: Mom, do you think this is a good idea or

a bad idea? I cannot answer right away. I need more information. I ask

questions. I say: You let me know this and this and this, and then I will make

the decision. I am not standing today, Mr. Speaker, to say that CETA is a bad

deal, but I am standing to say we certainly need more information before we can

make that decision.

Mr. Speaker, the private member's resolution is asking us to support, and I

want to read it because it is very, very vague. It is very general. It says: we

acknowledge "the tremendous importance to Newfoundland and Labrador of the terms

of the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement-in-principle (CETA) between

Canada and the European Union for which the Provincial Government successfully

advocated" for. It is all positive.

Then, it finishes with: we support "the decision of the Federal and

Provincial Governments to establish a $400 million fund to improve our fishing

industry's global competitiveness to capitalize more fully on the phenomenal

opportunities that CETA will generate for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians." It

is very, very vague, Mr. Speaker.

You want us to support a deal that will capitalize fully on the phenomenal

opportunities. All we are really asking is: Where are the details? How will the

$400 million be spent? Well, $120 million of that $400 million is the taxpayers

of this Province, and we have an obligation to the taxpayers of the Province to

tell them how this money is being spent.

From the outside it looks good. Yes, it gives us access to a market that

historically, Mr. Speaker, we have paid big fees on. Is this money going to

marketing? Is it going to infrastructure? Is this the long-awaited marketing

plan that was promised two years ago?

I found it personally, Mr. Speaker, a little bit peculiar that at the recent

announcement it was a joint funding agreement, but while the full PC caucus was

there, not one federal minister was there. What is that all about, Mr. Speaker?

I believe the people have a right to know.

Thank you.

MR. JOYCE: (Inaudible) Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER (Littlejohn): On a point of order?

MR. JOYCE: No, no, by leave. I am going to finish her time; that was

agreed to.

MR. SPEAKER: By leave.

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition by leave to finish the time.

AN HON. MEMBER: No.

MR. SPEAKER: No.

The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to rise today to speak to the private member's

motion on CETA, a Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement between Canada and

the EU. It has been ongoing for a number of years, approximately four years.

As Minister of IBRD involved with the trade file, I have worked through the

file in terms of the opportunities for CETA, Canada, and the economic union. We

have

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

MR. HUTCHINGS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, again, it is a long time in the making in terms of this

agreement, Canada and the EU. Looking at from the broader perspective, access to

a huge market, 500 million people, $13 trillion in terms of GDP; enormous

opportunities overall in terms of technology transfer, labour transfer, as well

as those new markets I speak of, and on a national scale, dairy, beef and from

our perspective, Newfoundland and Labrador fish.

Early on in these negotiations, as Minister of IBRD, my colleague for

Fisheries at the time, were steadfast from the beginning that our main priority

of these agreements was to get access to the EU, reduce tariffs; the elimination

of those tariffs, to get our product into the EU, and the removal of end us

restrictions, which is so important. It is very important in terms of growing

our industry.

What it does is it creates another environment, another market for our goods.

Right now we export into the US, we export into Japan, and we export into China.

Now with access to the EU, it is another market where we can be competitive. We

can grow our industry which is so important because the more market, the more

competitive, and we can get that seafood into those markets.

As I said, it is very important when you look at our industry, our fishing

industry. It is significant for our Province. It is significant in rural

Newfoundland and Labrador; a very important role it plays. We have all seen the

numbers, production value of a billion dollars. It is very significant.

I know in my own district on the Southern Shore, we have two processing

facilities and a number of harvesters right along the shore from Petty Harbour,

Maddox Cove South to St. Shott's. Historically, it has been very important to

the region, going right back to the early days when we came here and settled the

ports and harbours in Newfoundland and Labrador.

We transformed from a ground fishery into a shellfish industry. We shut down

the ground fishery in the early 1990s. We saw a huge change, a huge upheaval in

terms of what the fishery was and the type of fishery it was to what it is

today. We seen it evolve into as I say, shellfish has become a huge commodity.

It is very high in value with huge returns to all of the industry, from the

investors in the processing sector, the harvesting side, and those who work in

our facilities.

We have a challenge in terms of labour supply, in terms of those communities

and those fish processing facilities, with the age of up around fifty-four. As

we look to the future and how we develop it, we need to extend out those weeks

of work, making sure that we can attract people to the industry with increased

value, increased markets, and increased opportunity.

We will have increased wages, so it becomes a competitive labour force and we

can have those people to work in the industry. So, 90,000 people employed

overall in the industry is significant, as I said, scattered all throughout

Newfoundland and Labrador in rural Newfoundland and Labrador.

The elimination of the trade barriers now basically under this tentative

agreement which was signed by the Canadian government and the EU, implementation

anywhere from sixteen to twenty-four months in regard to everything being

translated into the various languages, all the t's being crossed and the i's

dotted, in terms of moving it forward. At that point, our seafood, about 99.1

per cent of all the seafood lines that are important to us, will go into the EU

with all tariffs down to zero and as well with the ability for the removal of

end-use restrictions.

The tariffs right now are anywhere from 7.5 per cent to 20 per cent. If you

have to build that into your business model and put that into that market,

obviously that is a disadvantage in many cases to get that product in. It is an

extra cost and the business model does not work. With those removed, certainly

for species like crab or shrimp, once you hit your ATQ that is there now, you

cannot go in over and above that now. If you do, the tariff is there.

So what happens now is some of that product, say, shrimp, would be held,

maybe stored, and could not go into the market now because of the quota. With

this removed, obviously you can access that market and get that product in, even

products going to other markets. Now there is a competitor. You can look to put

that product as well into the EU.

This also opens up opportunities with tariffs on species now that maybe are

not going into the EU because of the restrictive tariffs. There is a new

opportunity to send that species into the EU. It may be even species now that we

are not fully harvesting because of the restrictive nature of the tariffs. That

is another opportunity, new species that we can look at putting into the EU and

any of those individual states and working out relationships in those particular

areas to do it, which is so important.

Immediately when we see the Comprehensive Economic Trade Agreement between

Canada and the EU signed, from that three-year period, minimum processing

requirements with the EU will stay in place over that period as well. We spoke

about the $400 million fund that will be dispersed over that three-year period

as we look to grow our industry and do a whole range of things, certainly

strengthening that industry and making it grow.

Then based on our estimate in terms of what that new market would mean,

conservatively we are looking at basing our analysis somewhere in the range of

$100 million a year based on getting into the EU. That is growing, as I said,

our $1 billion industry, which is so important as we move it forward to get into

those markets.

The other thing we have come to learn is that from a Newfoundland and

Labrador perspective, from an Eastern Canadian perspective and around the world,

especially in Europe, sustainability of fish products are so important. The

market now wants to trace back and see where that fish and seafood is coming

from. Is it a sustainable environment?

Eighty-two per cent of the value of fish in the Province now has Marine

Stewardship Council certification or in the process of obtaining it. That is so

very important because around the world, especially in Europe, as I said people

want to see that it is sustainable, it is environmentally friendly, it is

harvested in a sustainable fashion and if that is so and you receive your

certification, it is a marketable product and people certainly look to Eastern

Canada to do that and recognize us as a player in that regard.

Now in the overall scheme of things, we look at our fishery and the volume of

fish we have and you look at the global marketed fishery, we are small in scale

and scope, obviously; but we need to make sure that we have a good product, that

is sustainable, value added, is certainly leading in terms of the quality and

find those niche markets. The EU is certainly another opportunity to do that,

along with what we put into Japan, China and our friends to the South, the US,

which is very important.

I mentioned the $400 million in terms of what was negotiated; 70 per cent by

the federal government and 30 per cent by the Province. When you look at it, Mr.

Speaker, it is a billion dollar industry and $400 million is going to be put in

to support this industry and drive it. It is unprecedented in the Province and

certainly in Canada as a whole, I would think, in regard to when you look at the

production value of an industry and combining the amount of funds that is going

to be put in to continue to grow the industry through things like research and

development, infrastructure, and certainly marketing is very important as well.

Some of the bigger companies have their own marketing in places like China,

but those smaller firms, smaller processors, which are competing today I might

add we often hear some negative comments in regard to it is going to hurt the

smaller processor; nothing could be further from the truth.

Right now, the smaller processors in Newfoundland and Labrador are in

international markets, they are selling into internationally markets, foreign

markets, and they are doing quite well; but this allows again another

opportunity to get into an additional market like the EU, a large market, which

some of the funds that we have, we can work with them in regard to marketing

initiatives whether it is bringing a group together collectively, small

processors, identifying markets for them, and identifying added value.

A lot of times when you sell to a broker, the broker is selling a commodity

and they are selling it into the market as is and you do not learn a lot about

the intelligence about value added. What does the market want? What does the

consumer want in another country? Is there another species they want or can you

value add to a species you have now to increase the value of that product?

Also, as I said, from a secondary processing point of view with the end-use

restrictions gone, we can see in our processing facilities here in the Province

in rural Newfoundland and Labrador the ability to do more secondary processing.

Right now we will send shrimp into the EU, industrial form goes to the EU, it is

thawed, it is repackaged, secondary processing is done to it, and it is branded

and put in the market in one of the EU states. What is going to happen under

CETA is the opportunity for that secondary processing to happen here where a

value-added product can be done, stamped, sealed, a Newfoundland and Labrador

company can send it into one of the EU states, so we can certainly value add and

when you value-add, the prices goes up and certainly all players get a return on

that.

Other areas, in terms of the fund, we look at harvesting and various

technologies, how we get the product as I said through Europe and even in other

jurisdictions as well. This is not solely for the EU; it is certainly across the

board when we look at marketing.

An initiative we looked at through DFA just a little while ago, working with

the Centre for Fisheries Innovation looking at cod; 14,000 tons of cod now is

available and not being full utilized. We are doing some research now through

the centre in regard to Mr. Bob Verge in terms of how can we get that into the

market, top-quality fresh cod, how do we get into the market in places like the

US. We will be looking at that as well. It gives us intelligence as well in

terms of that industry and that species. There are many species like that that

we will look at as we move forward through this and build our industry.

As well the industry players as Minister of IBRD, we called in industry

some time ago, certainly the FFAW, ASP, all the industry players and sat around

in regard to the minimum processing requirements and we were solely looking at

Europe; we were not looking outside of that. Right now with minimum processing

requirements, we provide exemptions where it is in the best interests of the

Province and we can generate the most wealth we can for our Province and for the

industry players. This is the same process we went through in regard to the EU.

We looked at: If we were to just look at removing the exemptions at request for

the EU, will this help grow our industries? Will there be competition for that

raw resource?

We looked historically at the Atlantic Provinces, and no MPR restrictions in

place. We feel strongly and certainly all of our intelligence in what we have

done, historical patterns, are that the EU processing cannot compete with us.

They have not tried to compete with us when you talk about MPRs not being in

place in other jurisdictions. We are quite confident that we are competitive. We

will compete with the EU in terms of processing and we will continue to grow our

industry.

Overall, this is a good resolution today as we move forward. My understanding

is this will go to the House of Commons where there will be debate because it is

between Canada and the EU. There is a significant process as we move forward of

anywhere from sixteen, to eighteen, to twenty-four months, a lot of discussion,

a lot of talk about answering questions back and forth, where it is, and what we

have achieved.

Overall, as Fisheries Minister of Newfoundland and Labrador, our Premier, our

government and industry as a whole and we have heard it loud and clear that

this was needed. We are going to move the industry forward; it is a $1 billion

industry. We are going to grow it. We are going to grow it with the funds we

have. It is a new market; it is new opportunity.

It is a new day for the fishery in Newfoundland and Labrador. CETA is going

to grow it. We are going to continue to build our communities in rural

Newfoundland and Labrador through this, build industry as a whole, and continue

to be a global player in the fishing industry in the world.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Third Party and Member for Signal

Hill Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I am very glad to get the opportunity to stand and speak to this resolution.

Not because I am going to vote for the resolution, but because it is going to

give me an opportunity to speak to issues that I have wanted to raise in this

House with regard to CETA. Having this private member's resolution means I now

will have the opportunity to do that.

Mr. Speaker, I have to say it is rather disconcerting that here we have in

front of us something which is asking us to approve an agreement-in-principle

without the details of what that agreement is going to be. What I have to say is

here we go again. We have this government asking us to approve something without

the details that tell us what the agreement is really going to mean for the

people in this Province.

That is what they did to us with Muskrat Falls, Mr. Speaker. That is what

they did to the Public Utilities Board around Muskrat Falls, asking the Public

Utilities Board to approve the Muskrat Falls Project before it had even gone

through the DG 3 decisions.

They are famous, this government is, for putting things in front of us and

asking us to agree with them, asking us to acknowledge how wonderful it is,

asking us to give approval for things without giving us details. That is exactly

what they are doing with us here again today, Mr. Speaker. We are really going

to get used to it, not getting any details from them when we ask questions on

the floor of the House and not getting details from them when we have debates in

the House, whether it is legislative debates or whether it is a private member's

resolution, expecting us to approve things without details, which fits right in

with the whole principle that was behind Bill 29 when it was brought it.

Accept us, follow us, listen to us, and do not think you are going to know

anything we are doing because we are going to hide everything. That is what this

government is all about, Mr. Speaker. They have no idea what openness and

transparency is.

So here we are today, looking at this agreement, CETA, which is an

agreement-in-principal, as I have just said. Even what we have, even what we

have been given, is only a

summary of an agreement. That agreement has to be

ratified by all Canadian provinces, not just by Ottawa by all Canadian

provinces and all twenty-eight EU countries. We are far from having a full

agreement in place, Mr. Speaker.

There are so many things about CETA that have been disconcerting and we have

not been able to debate it because this government never even acknowledged what

was happening at the table when they were at the table. We did not even know

sometimes if they were at the table, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS MICHAEL: Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that.

We did not even know sometimes if they really were at the table. There was so

much secrecy about our Province's involvement in the CETA negotiations. It was

unbelievable, Mr. Speaker.

There are so many things here in this agreement that critics are really

concerned about. One of them is that this agreement is going to strengthen the

rights of corporations, and this is a serious one I am going to pay some

attention to, by removing public oversight and democratic decision making from

even more areas of our lives and giving private investors more rights to

penalize governments. That is an important point.

We have had this experience, Mr. Speaker, with the North American Free Trade

Agreement where a

section of NAFTA,

section 11, actually gives the right to

corporations to take Canada and parts of Canadian society to court if the

corporations feel they are not being treated correctly under NAFTA. CETA is

going to continue that.

What we are dealing with here is a document that we do not have in our hands

and a document that is going to shock people when it becomes public. This

government is going to have to take resp

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