Manitoba Hansard — 1 December 2022 (Sitting 12B, 42nd Legislature, 5th Session)

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Fifth Session – Forty-Second Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXXVII No. 12B - 1:30 p.m., Thursday, December 1, 2022 ISSN 0542-5492

MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-Second Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALTOMARE, Nello Transcona NDP ASAGWARA, Uzoma Union Station NDP BRAR, Diljeet Burrows NDP BUSHIE, Ian Keewatinook NDP CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy Kildonan-River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Roblin PC EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne, Hon. Lac du Bonnet PC FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GORDON, Audrey, Hon.

Southdale PC GUENTER, Josh Borderland PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah, Hon. Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg, Hon. Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek, Hon. Interlake-Gimli PC JOHNSTON, Scott, Hon. Assiniboia PC KHAN, Obby Fort Whyte PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan, Hon. Selkirk PC LAMONT, Dougald St. Boniface Lib. LAMOUREUX, Cindy Tyndall Park Lib.

LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas-Kameesak NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Malaya Notre Dame NDP MARTIN, Shannon McPhillips PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC MOSES, Jamie St. Vital NDP NAYLOR, Lisa Wolseley NDP NESBITT, Greg, Hon. Riding Mountain PC PEDERSEN, Blaine Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle, Hon. Turtle Mountain PC REDHEAD, Eric Thompson NDP REYES, Jon, Hon. Waverley PC SALA, Adrien St. James NDP SANDHU, Mintu The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron Springfield-Ritchot PC SMITH, Andrew, Hon.

Lagimodière PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Vérendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WASYLIW, Mark Fort Garry NDP WHARTON, Jeff, Hon. Red River North PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC Vacant Kirkfield Park

429 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, December 1, 2022 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): –that the Speaker is unavoidably absent. Therefore, in accordance with the statutes, I would ask the Deputy Speaker to please take the Chair. Mr. Deputy Speaker (Andrew Micklefield): Good afternoon, everybody. Please be seated. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Bill 218–An Act Respecting the Title "Associate Judge" (Various Acts Amended) MLA Nahanni Fontaine (St. Johns): I move, seconded by the member for Concordia (Mr. Wiebe), that Bill 218,

An Act Respecting the Title "Associate Judge" (Various Acts Amended), be now read a first time. Miigwech. Thank you. Motion presented. MLA Fontaine: I'm proud to stand in the House and introduce Bill 218,

An Act Respecting the Title "Associate Judge," various acts amendment. This bill amends The Court of King's Bench Act to change the title of the judicial officials from master to associate judge. This is an important change due to the history the word master and its connotations that it draws with slavery. This bill takes an im portant step forward, en- suring that the language used in our institutions reflects the values of today. Miigwech. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] No other bills?

COMMITTEE REPORTS Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development Second Report Mr. Dennis Smook (Chairperson): I wish to present the second report of the Standing Com mittee on Social and Economic Development. Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your standing com- mittee– Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Dispense. Your Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development presents the following as its Second Report. Meetings Your Committee met on November 30, 2022, at 6:00 p.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building.

Matters under Consideration • Bill (No. 3) – The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration) / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les statistiques de l'état civil (forme du nom) • Bill (No. 5) – The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la dévolution de la Couronne (modification de diverses lois) • Bill (No. 213) – The Animal Care Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur le soin des animaux Committee Membership • Mr. B USHIE • MLA FONTAINE • Hon. Mr. GOERTZEN • Hon. Mr. HELWER • Mr. MICHALESKI • Mr. SMOOK Your Committee elected Mr. SMOOK as the Chairperson. Your Committee elected Mr. MICHALESKI as the Vice-Chairperson. Non-Committee Members Speaking on Record • Mr. KHAN Bills Considered and Reported • Bill (No. 3) – The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration) / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les statistiques de l'état civil (forme du nom) Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment.

430 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 • Bill (No. 5) – The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la dévolution de la Couronne (modification de diverses lois) Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. • Bill (No. 213) – The Animal Care Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur le soin des animaux Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. Mr. Smook: I move, seconded by the honour able member for Dauphin (Mr. Michaleski), that the report of the committee be received. Motion agreed to. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Tabling of reports? MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): Mr. Deputy Speaker, can you canvass the House for leave to allow a ministerial statement on World AIDS Day and a ministerial statement for International Day of Persons With Disabilities? Mr.

Deputy Speaker: Is there leave of the House to allow for a ministerial statement on World AIDS Day and another minis terial statement on Inter national Day of Persons With Disabilities? Is there leave? [Agreed] International Day of Persons With Disabilities Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister responsible for Accessibility): As the Minister of Families and the Minister responsible for Accessibility, I'm pleased to proclaim December 3rd as International Day of Persons With Disabilities in Manitoba.

In 1992, the United Nations General Assembly proclaimed the observance of December 3rd as the international day of disabled persons. The goal is to promote an understanding of disability issues and to mobilize support for the dignity, rights and well-being of persons with disabilities. While Manitoba has celebrated the Internat ional Day of Persons With Disabilities for over a decade, this year the Province has officially proclaimed it in perpetuity.

Manitoba continuously strives to ensure that all individuals with a disability are able to access the services they need by removing barriers and support- ing a skilled and committed front -line direct service workforce. The Province has taken steps to stabilize this important workforce in recent months. In March 2022, Manitoba issued a one -time Labour Force Support Grant to Communit y Living disABILITY Services for provider –recruitment and retention activities.

Additionally, in this year's budget, our govern- ment invested $10 million in new funding to increase wages paid to direct service workers who deliver residential services in community. We recognize that more needs to be done and that this was an initial first step. To support children accessing the Children's disABILITY Services program and their families, $5 million in new funding was provided to reduce wait-lists for much -needed therapies and case man - agement services.

We also established a brand new $8 -million bridge program for children and youth with dis abil- ities to–so that their families can care for children with complex needs and give them the option of accessing longer term out-of-home support. These are just a few of the initial investments our government has made in recent months to support people living with disabilities, and our commitment is to continue ensuring that all Manitobans can achieve a high quality of life in our province.

This year, our government also launched the in- augural Manitoba Accessibility Fund, and its tremen- dous success demonstrates the desire from the com - munity to ensure a welcoming environment for all people of all abilities. I wa s honoured to award 30 different organizations a total of $756,000 towards accessibility. It is important to mark December 3rd as a day to acknowledge the vital contributions Manitobans with disabilities make in our personal lives, to our work- force, our economy and our community. This year, the Manitoba Accessibility Office will be hosting a virtual event.

Keynote speakers and a panel of guests will be discussing the United Nations Convention of rights –on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities and how it impacted their own lives. It is through these initiatives and many more that we are striving to make Manitoba the most accessible province to live and work in. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 431 Mr. Eric Redhead (Thompson): This Saturday, December 3rd, will be the International Day of Persons With Disabilities. This day of recognition was first observed internationally in 1992, and the day aims to promote an understanding of disability issues and mobilize support for the dignity, rights and well- being of persons with disabilities at every level of society and development. It is important we continue to advocate on behalf of the rights of people with disabilities so they can participate fully, equally and effectively in our society.

In Manitoba, there are over 200,000 Manitobans living with a disability, many living productive, healthy and meaningful lives in all sectors of our society. Evidence and experience shows that when barriers to inclusion are removed and persons with disabilities are empow ered to participate fully in societal life, the entire community benefits. There are still barriers and stigma for persons with disabilities. For example, the current employ - ment rate for persons with disabilities in Canada is only 17.9 per cent. However, once hired, they have a retention rate of 72 per cent.

Studies have shown that 90 per cent of people with disabilities can work just as productively or even more so than their colleagues. In the spirit of this day, we must also recognize that we can do and should do better for persons with disabilities so that everyone can live in an accessible and equitable world. I want to give a shout-out to organizations such as the society of Manitobans with disabilities who do in- credible work every single day t o make sure these rights are not forgotten and that individuals with dis - abilities can live the lives they want.

It is important to recognize employers that ensure that persons with disabilities are provided inclusive and supported workplaces. The Manitoba NDP would also like to recognize and honour all persons with disabilities for their resilience as they continue to contribute to our society in incredible ways despite the barriers, struggles that they may face. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I ask leave to respond to the minister's statement. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is there leave for the member for River Heights to respond to the minister's statement? [Agreed] Mr.

Gerrard: Mr. Deputy Speaker, we spend far too much time emphasizing the disability, and we need to spend more time talking about the amazing things that people with physical, mental or brain disabilities are doing. A friend of mine is in a wheelchair, on a respira - tor, is married and is holding down a full -time job. She's an incredible example of what is possible. * (13:40) Too often when we think of disabilities, we do– don't pay enough attention to those with mental or brain health conditions.

After all, learning disabilities are one of the most common disabilities; indeed, per- haps the most common disability. People who are neurodivergent, who have a learn- ing disability, ADHD, autism or FASD are too often stigmatized and not giving the help they need. At a recent forum I held on neurodiversity, the mother of a 19-year-old son told the story of how her son with a learning dis ability, an executive function disability, who had supports as a child, was no longer provided any government support when he turned 18. Without an y help, he is almost certainly 'hilpless' – homeless.

His parents are growing to incredible lengths to help him, but it is exhausting. Indeed, at the forum, the room was full of exhausted parents. The Province needs to do better. There are too many who are neurodivergent who are struggling, homeless and having great difficulty. Recently the government announced the backlog of FASD assessments would be cleared up in 18 months. This is an extraordinarily long time for a child with FASD. It's unacceptable that some children will have to wait 18 months. It's horrible –it's un - imaginable–that the wait is as long as 18 months. We must do much better.

Indeed, I recommend all members read a book on the power of neurodiversity. There is incred ible potential out there if we can help those individuals who are neurodiverse and who are neurodivergent. Thank you. World AIDS Day Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health): I rise today in the House to recognize that December 1st is World AIDS Day.

432 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 This is the 34th year, since its inception in 1988, that we take time to unite in the fight against HIV/AIDS and honour victims of this life-altering disease. I also encourage Manitobans to take

part in the Rock the Ribbon campaign by wearing a red ribbon in honour of patients and victims worldwide. Although this disease was only discovered in 1984, it has made a lasting impact on the lives of 38 million people in the world today. In Manitoba, there are roughly 1,400 people living with HIV/AIDS. Here in Manitoba, our government has taken ac- tion by broadening access to treatment, including adding pre -exposure 'prophylaxic,' or PrEP, to the provincial pharmacare formulary. PrEP helps prevent the contracting of HIV.

Additionally, our government has invested $2.3 million for an Indigenous-led sexually transmitted blood-borne infections testing and contact tracing strategy. We are also investing $632,000 over the next two years to strengthen HIV/AIDS services in areas most affected by case increases. Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is important to also recog- nize the effects here in Manitoba that contribute to our HIV rates: substance use, homelessness and other challenges.

We will address these impacts by providing treatment-as-prevention, enhancing primary-care capa- city and prevention, continuing with harm reduction efforts and providing resources and supports for people living with HIV who are experiencing homelessness. We value the health partnership that has been established with Ka Ni Kanichihk, so that we ensure Indigenous-led approaches are used for care. There is more work to be done. Together we can raise awareness and provide treatment for patients around the world. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): Today is World AIDS Day, a da y when we recognize those in our province living with HIV and AIDS and reiterate our support for them as they seek to live their lives to the fullest. World AIDS Day is an important reminder to end the stigma that those living with HIV and AIDS experience. Advancements in treatment have drastic- ally improved the length and quality of life for those living with HIV and AIDS. But there's still more work that can be done to ensure they have access to the quality health care they deserve.

Unfortunately, we have been seeing a large in - crease of new HIV cases in the province recently. More than 200 people were diagnosed in the last four quarters alone. That is twice the number of diagnosises–diagnoses, rather, we saw a few years ago. We know that there are measures this government could be taking that would help reduce the number of HIV diagnoses in Manitoba. They could support supervised consumption sites which reduce blood-borne illnesses. Supervised consumption sites save lives and it's time for the government to step up and commit to supporting supervised consumption sites in Manitoba.

While the PC gov ernment has been refusing to support these measures that would reduce the number of HIV diagnoses and save lives, organizations on the ground continue to do the work for them by providing Manitobans with the treatment and support they need and deserve. In particular, I would like to highlight the work of the Manitoba Harm Reduction Network and the Nine Circles Commu nity Heal th Centre which provides culturally ap propriate care, treatment, support and advocacy for those living and affected with HIV.

Your work is appre ciated by the Manitoba NDP and all Manitobans, quite frankly, and we will con - tinue to stand with you and a ll those living with HIV and AIDS across our province. Thank you. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, I ask for leave to speak to the minister's state- ment. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Does the member have leave to speak to the minister's statement? [Agreed] Mr. Gerrard: Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is a sad testa - ment to the failure of the provincial government to do an adequate job to prevent HIV/AIDS in Manitoba when the number of people with HIV/AIDS is going up and not down.

Indeed, 2021 saw an incredible and very distressing 44 per cent increase in HIV cases from 116 in 2020 to 167 in 2021. This is a preventable condition. Indeed, a major report released today talks of the dangerous inequalities in societies like ours with rising rates of HIV/AIDS. The report headlines the

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 433 fact that inequalities are stopping the world from end- ing AIDS. It is an embarrassment that Manitoba, which has the international centre for human and animal health in Winnipeg, with world experts here on HIV/AIDS, is doing so poorly. It is true that under the NDP, the Province was very slow to bring in the latest approaches to HIV/AIDS prevention. The PCs have made some changes, including making PrEP available. That is good, but they are not yet enough, and their overall record during the last six and a half years is poor.

Manitobans deserve much better, Mr. Deputy Speaker, on World AIDS Day. Today, let us aim for better in the next year. MEMBERS' STATEMENTS Justine Proulx Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health): I'm honoured to acknowledge community member Justine Proulx. Justine has been using her amazing artistic abilities to bring stunning painted murals to the halls of schools in my constituency. These murals depict the seven sacred teachings, truth and reconciliation, diversity and include Indigenous symbols and imagery done in Justine's style of bold colours and lines which are her

interpretation of the Woodland art style. As a Métis artist, who also has Cree and Ojibway ancestry, Justine says being able to create and share her art has been incredibly meaningful. Justine shared, it is important to bring Indigenous culture to places where it previously wasn't visible or allowed. She said, by putting that culture back into schools, it's doing a lot of healing. She has received feedback from students of how impactful her art has been.

Louis Riel Arts & Technology Centre Principal Brian Cameron says Justine's murals in his school have created a much more vibrant environment, bringing colour and meaning into what were previously bland spaces. Graduating as a hairstylist from ATC, Justine eventually pursued a career as a tattoo artist. During the pandemic, when business slowed, she completed a mural in her mother's Indigenous studies classroom at Miles Macdonell Collegiate.

This led to more painting opportunities and she has since completed more than a dozen murals in- cluding recently at École Howden in Windsor Park. * (13:50) There were times when people tried to discourage Justine from pursuing careers based in art. She wants to encourage and empower young Indigenous people to pursue their passions and not be dissuaded by other's opinions or negativity. Congratulations on your well -deserved succes s, Justine, and thank you for making a positive contribu- tion for the students and schools in our communities. Thank you. Introduction of Guests Mr.

Deputy Speaker: Before proceeding with the next private members' statements, I wish to draw the attention of all members to the public gallery where we have seated 20 grade 9 students from River East Collegiate under the direction of Mr. Cochrane. This group is located in the constituency of the honourable member for Rossmere–that's me. We welcome you to the Manitoba Legislature. Health-Care System MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): Deputy Speaker, I'm honoured to rise as the member for Union Station / To talk about how PC cuts to health- care have caused devastation. / The Premier (Mrs.

Stefanson) would have us believe private care is the solve / To public health services that she's tried to dissolve. / They cut ERs, fired nurses, cut CancerCare and more. / But they were just getting started, and now have even more in store. / Union Station constituents tell me how these cuts have hurt. / They see clearly the PCs are putting people last and putting profits first. / My constituents want to see health inequities in Manitoba addressed / not cuts and nurses forced from public hospitals, which creates much more health system stress. / Public health care is a Canadian value which should be defended by all in this space / Not undermined by the Minister of Health (Ms.

Gordon) when she stands up in her place. / Communities I represent and all of us do as well / Have much to say about the PCs failed approach, and the stories they do tell. / From broken home care which is being ignored by the new minister assigned / To no action on supervised consumption sites of which science is aligned. /

434 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 So to the constituents of Union Station and all those across our province, I assure you this: / Our NDP team stands with your communities, seniors, families and your kids. / We will work alongside health-care workers, nurses, professionals and doctors alike. / We w ill treat them with respect, not like the PCs who just pick fights. / We will fill vacancies, build capacity and make public health care strong / Because we all know what the PCs have done to health care in Manitoba is just plain wrong. / So, trust the NDP is working hard / And with you we're unified. / And in 2023, together we'll make sure our NDP caucus sits on that side. / Becki Thiessen Hon.

Sarah Guillemard (Minister of Mental Health and Community Wellness): Mr. Deputy Speaker, I rise today to acknow ledge and honour an exemplary educator from Fort Richmond Collegiate, Ms. Becki Thiessen. Ms. Thiessen has developed the choir programs at FRC and reached a level that is recognized locally and across the country as top- notch. She has found the secret to getting the best out of her students and consistently shows a level of patience that can only be achieved with a heart of gold. Mr.

Deputy Speaker, music is an integral part of the fabric of every culture around the globe and is used for celebrations as well as to lighten moods. Some people are gifted with a natural talent for singing, while some require a little bit of work to develop their vocal instrument. Ms. Thiessen has been a wonderful leader in the music program at FRC and has been instrumental i n building on her students' natural talents. She has help- ed many find their voice in order to gift others with beautiful harmonies, as was demonstrated earlier today in the Legislative Building. Ms.

Thiessen's positive influence is not limited to the mus ic that she weaves through each student's heart, but it also extends beyond the school day with genuine connection she makes with every member. She may not be aware of it, but her actions and care have changed the trajectory and the outlook on life for many youth that she has taught. And for that, I am personally grateful. I would like to share a couple of comments from her students. Hark said: I feel as though choir isn't just a gather- ing, it's another place that I would call home. Daniel shared: Ms.

Thiessen always makes me want to become a better version of myself. She teaches with such passion and fire, and I feel it. Kody commented: Ms. Thiessen makes me feel like I have a place, somewhere I can be myself. It is fitting, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that this talented and very loved educator will be receiving the Queen's Platinum Jubilee Medal later today for her invaluable contributions to the youth in Fort Richmond. Joining me here today in the gallery are Ms. Becki Thiessen and the Vox Anima Chambe r Choir, and I ask my colleagues in the Chamber to join me today in thanking and honouring Ms. Becki Thiessen. Mr.

Deputy Speaker, I was wondering if you could ask for leave of the House to allow the Vox Anima Chamber Choir to give a little taste of what they had performed earlier today in the Legislature. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Okay. Is there leave? [Agreed] Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Someone else can ask leave for another one, or–the honourable member for Thompson (Mr. Redhead). Sheri Porth Mr. Eric Redhead (Thompson): First of all, thank you. Wow. That was amazing.

I stand today to acknowledge elementary school- teacher Sheri Porth and her grade 7 and 9 class at Juniper elementary school in Thompson, who re - ceived the Peter Henderson Bryce Award. This award is given out to first–sorry, this award is given out by First Nations Child and Family Caring Society. It was given to Ms. Porth and her class because of their collective advocacy for bringing awareness to MMIWG2S.

This award is named after Peter Henderson Bryce, a public health physician in Canada from the late 18th to 19 hundreds, for his advocacy for the proper treatment of Indigenous children in residential schools. In Porth's words, Henderson Bryce was brave enough to step up when no one else was. Porth–while Porth's teaching career spans 14 years, she admits that she still has more learning to do about Canada's history. When she learns it, she teaches her students and passes that on.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 435 This passion for education and social justice is the driving force which led her students to learn the histories of residential school, missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls, and two-spirited people, Orange Shirt Day, the Secret Path and the Downie Wenjack fund and the '60s scoop. Porth, like many other educators, sees the neces - sity of educating youth and future leaders about these dark parts of Canadian history.

The truth is what's im- portant, and through understanding of these harms that were done is essential f or reconciliation with Indigenous communities. * (14:00) Porth ensures her class participates in events such as Orange Shirt Day, the Wenjack walk, tying ribbons to the Miles Hart Bridge for MMIWG2S. She also facilitates the hard discussions that foster a deeper understanding of these topics. The award comes with a $500 prize, and the class is collaboratively deciding where the money should be spent.

Unfortunately, the class was not able to attend in the gallery today, but please join me in congratulating them as they view us livestream via Thompson. Rhonda Nichol Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): I rise today to speak of Rhonda Nichol, a nurse who has dedi cated much of her life to serving and helping others. She worked diligently for 29 years at the Grace Hospital in various areas, including the emergency room, in oncology and in surgery. She has also worked as a clinical education facilitator with the U of M to share her passion for nursing with third-year students.

She carries her commit ment to helping others in her current role in clinical trials and research. She understands the importance of constantly working to find new and better ways to care for patients and to be doing this through carefully planned research. Rhonda was integral in the implementation of the use of micro -introducers and ultrasound for PICC insertions at the Grace. She organized a better process for ordering supplies from vendors. She was involved in the WRHA logistic group to find better, more cost- effective alternatives for medical products.

She has brought an in-depth understanding of our health-care system and the changes needed. I can already tell in con versation with her that there are reasons why the PCs' approach to health care is not getting the results we need. As a physician and MLA, I see first -hand how critical it is to have Rhonda, with her more than three decades' experience as a nurse, as an im portant voice in the Manitoba Legislature. With her in -depth knowledge of health care, we have the best chance of seeing improvements for Manitoba. The gov ernment's plan for health care is not working well.

The NDP revealed their plan yesterday, and I quote: We have a plan: it's to not cut heath care. But there's much more to do than this. We need the insight of individuals like Rhonda Nichol. I hope all MLAs will support a better approach to health care and support the election of Rhonda Nichol in the by-election on December 13th. ORAL QUESTIONS Manitoba Hydro Assets Sale of Subsidiaries Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): A huge shout -out to the FRC chamber choir and Ms. Thiessen.

That was amazing and certainly a lot more pleasing to the ear than some of the discord that you'll hear in the Chamber this–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –[inaudible] so, bravo–especially when they hear those PC talking points. Manitobans now know that the PCs plan to priva- tize Manitoba Hydro. They're looking at the subsid - iaries and, quote, they've directed Hydro to look at those subsidiaries, to consider them for sale or shut them down. Those are the government's own words. We say that breaking up and selling off pieces of Hydro is wrong because it will cost you more money.

Will the Premier tell the House which parts of Hydro she plans to break up and sell off? Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): I just want to thank Ms. Thiessen and the FRC chamber choir. All of you–is so wonderful to have you sing in the Chamber today. That might be almost precedent-setting for a choir to be singing in this Chamber, and so that is so exciting. You can take that away with you. See, you're setting history right here in the province of Manitoba. So, thank you so much. You are amazing.

And as for the question from the Leader of the Opposition, we're not selling Manitoba Hydro; we're saving it from the NDP ruin.

436 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a follow-up question. Mr. Kinew: Well, it seems that the Premier isn't sing- ing from the same songbook as her Minister of Finance (Mr. Friesen) because, yesterday, he tabled a document that says that the PCs plan to break up Manitoba Hydro and sell it off. We already know that they started their privatiza- tion plan when they sold off–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –Teshmont, so the question remains, which subsidiary are they looking to sell off now?

Perhaps they'll be looking at Manitoba Hydro International further. We don't know, for example, what will take place with Hydro's Power Systems Technology Centre. We also know that MHI owns valuable intellectual property like the PSCAD soft- ware. Are these valuable assets things that the PCs now want to sell off? Will the Premier just tell the House today which part of Manitoba Hydro is she planning to sell off first? Mrs. Stefanson: The fact of the matter is: the NDP ran Hydro into the ground and we are stabilizing the finances of Manitoba Hydro while also keeping rates low for Manitobans.

That is what our plan is. We just announced, and I want to thank the Minister of Finance and Manitoba Hydro, as well–the Minister of Finance and–we announced just the other day that we're reducing, by half, the fees the guarantee rate fees and the water rate fees in the province of Manitoba to Manitoba Hydro. That will go back into Manitoba Hydro which, again, stabilizes the finances of Manitoba Hydro while also keeps rates low. That is the responsi ble approach. The NDP's ap- proach? I'll let you know in a moment what others say about that. Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Order.

The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary. Mr. Kinew: Their plan is to keep raising hydro rates, as they've been doing for their whole time in office and, as they've now announced, they plan to do for the next 19 years. On this side of the House, we want to freeze your hydro rate. But the part that they, up 'til yesterday–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –weren't saying out loud is that they also want to privatize Manitoba Hydro.

I'll table the government document that they pro- duced that says they want to look at Manitoba Hydro subsidiaries, and that they should be considered for sale or shutdown. Privatization of Hydro assets is wrong because it's going to cost you more money. Will the Premier just provide more detail on those plans and tell us which Manitoba Hydro asset she plans to sell off next? Mrs. Stefanson: Well, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Leader of the Op position and the NDP's plan is to destabilize the financial situation of Manitoba Hydro.

We've seen that happen in the past, and we know what that–that that is their plan in the future, and th at does not help Manitobans. So, I want to quote Edward Kennedy, the chair of the board of Manitoba Hydro, who said about the Leader of the Opposition's plan, Mr. Deputy Speaker, he says, to say we're going to have zeros across the board, that doesn't reflect the reality of all the things that are going on in energy today. Mr. Deputy Speaker, their plan will not produce a stable Manitoba Hydro for the future genera tions of our province. Our plan will. Mr.

Deputy Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a new question. Health-Care System Reform Impact on Rural EMS Services Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): The Premier dodges the question and refuses to tell Manitobans which part of Hydro she plans to sell off next. We do know, though, that she also has privatiza- tion ambitions–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –in the health-care system. In 2018, we warned that their cuts to emergency rooms was going to lead to fewer beds in our hospital system.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 437 Of course, Brian Pallister, at the time, said you didn't need hospital beds in order to deliver quality care. Nobody quite understood what he meant by that– I'll table the transcript. However, that notwithstanding, this Premier de - cided to implement that hospital plan full steam ahead. Will she finally recognize that their cuts to health care have caused chaos in our health-care system and that they've been wrong the whole time? Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): Wrong is putting ideology before patient care, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

And I can tell you we, on this side of the House, will not do that. We will always put patient care first. * (14:10) And that's why I want to thank our surgical and diagnostic past–task force for all the in credible work that they're doing, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The pandemic backlog for 'cataratic'–or, cataract surgery has now been fully eliminated, [inaudible] the pandemic backlog in half for ultrasounds, from almost 4,500 procedures to under 2,000 procedures and the backlog for orthopedic knee replacements has been reduced by 27 per cent. That is putting patient care first. Mr.

Deputy Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a follow-up. Mr. Kinew: We know that privatizing health care leads to worse outcomes for patients. We're already seeing it when it comes to patient transport teams. I'll table a brand new letter written by respiratory therapists and primary-care–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –paramedics who are respon sible for transfers from ICUs, emergency rooms and urgent cares in our province.

They say that the approach that this government is taking is wrong, that they feel as though they're left behind and they've never gotten a fair deal from this Premier or from the PCs. Will the Premier simply tell the House why her government has for so long ignored the work of rural paramedics and medical transfer teams? Mrs. Stefanson: Speaking of denying access to health care for Manitobans, 12,000 Manitobans received care–surgical care–in private facilities in Manitoba, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

Those are 12,000 individuals in Manitoba over the last two years that the NDP would deny access to health care because of their ideology. We will always put patient care first over ideology. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary. Mr. Kinew: Their privatization ideology is what is responsible for long rural EMS wait times right now. They're talking about press releases and im agin- ary programs in the future. We're talking about rural Manitobans who were waiting for ambulances right now in this province.

That letter was signed by 16 respiratory therapists and primary -care paramedics. They complain time and time again that this gov ernment has left them behind and never provided them with a fair deal. We see the impact now with b urnouts and long waits for ambulances across rural Manitoba. Will the Premier finally stop ignoring allied health- care professions? Mrs. Stefanson: Well, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the only party that would deny access to health-care services in the province of Manitoba is the Leader of the Opposition and the NDP–and maybe the Liberals, too.

But what I would say is that there's 13,000 in- dividuals in Manitoba right now that have surgical procedures that are scheduled in the next six months in private delivery s ervices here in Manitoba within that single-payer system, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And 13,000 Manitobans, those are individuals that are waiting for those surgical procedures that would be denied by the Leader of the Opposition and every member opposite, Mr. Deputy Speaker. We will always put patient care first. Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Order. Order. Order, please. Manitoba Hydro Assets Sale of Subsidiaries Mr.

Adrien Sala (St. James): Mislead and hide: that's what Conservatives do when confronted with their plans for privatization. Yet, here it is in black and white. Their response to the Brad Wall report outlines the PC gov ernment's plans for Manitoba Hydro. Quote: If these subsid iaries are not core to Manitoba Hydro's mission, then they should be considered for sale or shutdown. End of quote.

438 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 Why is the minister planning to sell off parts of Manitoba Hydro? Hon. Cameron Friesen (Minister responsible for Manitoba Hydro): I'm pleased to have a question from the member. He's been relegated so far to the back of the lineup, they had to summon him from the parking lot. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I can see that the NDP mis- information and distortion campaign is in full gear, with the member for St. James cranking away on the machine. The facts are this: Manitoba Hydro isn't for sale. We're stabilizing Hydro where the NDP threatened it. Mr.

Deputy Speaker: The honour able member for St. James, on a follow-up. Mr. Sala: Mr. Deputy Speaker, here's the actual facts: Manitoba Hydro and its subsid iaries are profitable. They keep good jobs–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Mr. Sala: –in Manitoba and they give us our Manitoba advantage. Cutting up Manitoba Hydro and selling of f its subsidiaries undermines Hydro, it hurts our future, it hurts our economy and it will reduce Hydro profit - ability, which means even higher hydro rates for Manitobans. Why is the minister committed to breaking up and selling off pieces of Hydro? Mr. Friesen: Mr.

Deputy Speaker, it doesn't matter how many times he puts misinformation on the record, Manitoba Hydro is not for sale. However, what the report yesterday did actually focus on–and what that member is trying to skirt and go around at a high speed–is the fact that this report responds to billions of dollars of overexpenditure by an NDP former government that mismanaged, that hid from Manitobans and that went around the very processes that were designed to protect the interests of ratepayers. So, shame on them. And, of course, they want to avoid what's really in that report.

We will continue to stand up for lower rates for Manitobans and a strong and stable publicly owned Manitoba Hydro. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable member for St. James, on a final supplementary. Mr. Sala: The minister can spin it however he wants. The reality is, yesterday his gov ernment put out a report that said, in no uncertain terms, they plan on selling off Hydro subsidiaries. The PC government's own response makes it clear for anyone to see. There's no denying it anymore. They want to break up Manitoba Hydro and sell off or shut down more of its subsidiaries. This makes no sense.

These subsid iaries bring good jobs to Manitoba and they've helped to grow our economy. They've generated signi ficant profits for Manitoba Hydro, which have helped to keep our rates lower. Why is this minister and this gov ernment so obsessed with privatization, and why is he so eager to sell off and shut down Manitoba Hydro subsidiaries? Mr. Friesen: That member has lost all credibility when it comes to anything having to do with rates of Hydro–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Mr.

Friesen: He spent months and months and months telling all Manitoba ns that rates would go to 5 per cent, and this week Hydro has said their rate is 2 per cent. So, how does it compare? Alberta, rates up 30 per cent; Saskatchewan, rates up 4 per cent; Ontario, 4 point through; New Brunswick, 8.9 per cent; and Manitoba Hydro, for the next 20 years, 2 per cent rates– among the lowest in all of Canada. We stand for low rates and a strong and public Manitoba Hydro. Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. The clock continues to run.

Manager at Grace Hospital Conflict of Interest Concerns MLA Malaya Marcelino (Notre Dame): Mr. Deputy Speaker, earlier this year, we learned from the con - cerned citizen that a nursing manager at Grace Hospital has a personal connection with private health agency Elite Intellicare. This agency does business with the region, provi- ding private agency staff such as health-care aides and nurses. Of course, nurse managers in the public sys - tem recruit and hire staff. It's really con cerning that such staff would have a potential conflict.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 439 What is this minister doing to address the private conflicts of managers working at the Grace Hospital? Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health): I'm disappointed that the member for Notre Dame is –has decided on a blame -and-shame narr ative today, blaming and shaming health professionals and–at Grace Hospital, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was so pleased to be able to be on-site at Grace Hospital this week, talking to front -line emergency department staff, having a tour of the emergency de - partment.

We were around the table of solutions, talking about how we can work together to address the issues, not just at the Grace but across our health system. * (14:20) Great ideas came forward about recruitment, retention and training. They were very pleased to hear about our $200- million, 2,000- health-professionals action plan, and we'll continue to work– Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable minister's time has expired. MLA Marcelino: Mr.

Deputy Speaker, all of us members in this House have a fiduciary trust to our citizens of Manitoba, and we need to make sure that if there is conflict of interest happening, that we need to get to the bottom of that. So, the minister has nurse managers currently working in the public system who have a personal connection with private health agencies. It's the job of these managers to recruit and retain health-care work- ers in the public system. Instead, some have a connec- tion to private agencies. It's a potential conflict of interest with their duties. Why is the minister allowing–[interjection] Mr.

Deputy Speaker: Order. MLA Marcelino: –nurse managers to have even the appearance of conflict with private health agencies? Ms. Gordon: The hiring of individuals in the health system does not occur here at the Manitoba Legislative Building. If there is a specific incident or situation the member would like to have investigated, that can be done through the regional health authority responsible for that site, or through Shared Health, Mr. Deputy Speaker. But to bring it to the floor of the Legislature is not the appropriate setting. Thank you. MLA Marcelino: Mr.

Deputy Speaker, $40 million went to private nurse agencies last year, and this num- ber is growing higher this year. Yet, rather than ad- dressing this, this gov ernment has managers with connections to private health agencies. It directly undermines public health care, and is just another example of this gov ernment's approach with private health. Will the minister intervene and ensure health managers are serving the public interest? Ms. Gordon: It's not the first time members opposite have tried to litigate situations on the floor of this Chamber. This is not the ap propriate forum.

If there is a specific incident or a case the memb er is concerned about, the member needs to approach human re - sources for the regional health author ity responsible. The hiring is not done here in the Manitoba Legis - lative Building by politicians–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, please. Ms. Gordon: –it is done in the regional health author- ities, Mr. Deputy Speaker. U of M Dietetics Program Status for 2023 Mr. Jamie Moses (St. Vital): The PCs have failed to approve University of Manitoba's dietitian program, despite having more than five months to review it.

Not only does this negatively affect students who may have to leave the province for edu cation or change careers, it also negatively affects our health - care system. Dietitians do critical work to help coun - sel new diabetes diagnos is patients, tube feed and so many other things, and without their help this puts more pressure on already overworked nurses in our health-care system. So, can the minister explain why he has failed to approve U of M's dietitian program, despite having more than five months to do so? Hon.

Jon Reyes (Minister of Advanced Education, Skills and Immigration): Good to see my critic back and feeling well. I say that sincerely. Our government provides over $1 billion in post- secondary funding to support our institutions in Manitoba. We respect the in stitution autonomy with each institution's academic oversight body, such as the senate at the Uni versity of Manitoba, to deter mine

440 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 academic programs, curriculums, dev elopment, hu- man resources and operational needs. We know interfering in post-secondary autonomy is the NDP way, not ours, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker: I'm obliged just to caution the minister and all members that we are not allowed, in this House, to reference the absence o r presence of a member. I'm sure it was an honest error, but the rules do stipulate that and it falls to me to enforce those rules. Mr. Moses: Mr.

Deputy Speaker, dietitian students are being forced to finish their education elsewhere, out of province, or change career paths because of this minister's foot-dragging. And it's entirely due to this– the minister's fault and it's having impacts not only for students but in our health-care systems, too. There's–as of right now, there will be no more dietitian students in Manitoba as of this June, and they play a key role in our health- care system. We're put - ting more pressure on nurses without dietitians. And what does this minister have to say for him- self? Well, not very much.

We call on the minister to actually approve the program –the new dietitian pro - gram–so we can have those students educated right here in Manitoba. Will he do that and actually approve the program in a timely manner today? Mr. Reyes: Mr. Deputy Speaker, $200 million to retain, train and recruit health-care professionals, over $30 million to esta blish 289 nursing seats, 12 and a half million dollars for the nursing simulation and training centre to add 150 more nursing seats.

Unlike the NDP, our government respects the in- stitutions' autonomy and believe in col laborative re- lationship to strengthen our post -secondary in stitu- tions of Manitoba. That is why we are investing more than $44 million in 400 addi tional nursing seats, $20.3 million for adult learning, four –$539,000 for additional veterinary seats, $480,000 for addi tional respiratory therapist seats and many more invested on top of $1 billion yearly investments in operating. More to strengthen future needs, unlike the NDP who took an ideological approach. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable member for St.

Vital, on a final supplementary. Post-Secondary Education Performance-Based Funding Mr. Jamie Moses (St. Vital): I'd like to remind the minister we're talking about dietitian students who he's failing, if he forgot what we were actually talking about. But it's not just them, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Across the province, they've made post -secondary less affordable and acces sible. That's due to their slashing of funding and their jacking up of tuition. Their plan to implement performance-based fund- ing in post -secondary in stitutions has students and faculty alarmed, raising alarm bells.

Their formula is going to mean more cuts and even worse outcomes. Will the minister stand in the House today and confirm whether his gov ernment will implement performance-based funding? Yes or no? Hon. Jon Reyes (Minister of Advanced Education, Skills and Immigration): Mr. Deputy Speaker, we know the NDP loves to interfere in our post-secondary institutions' autonomy. They neglected calls to expand the nursing and health- care professionals training seats during their 17 years in government, resulting in critical shortages in the health-care sector.

Manitobans know the NDP record when it comes to post-secondary institutions and health care. They don't want to go back to the dark days of the NDP. Our 'gombent' is making record investments to fill the gaps left by the previous NDP administration. We are taking action, Mr. Deputy Speaker. New Congenital Syphilis and HIV/AIDS Cases Request for Government Plan to Address MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): Today is World AIDS Day and Aboriginal AIDS Awareness Week. It's so important to cast a light on this issue in order for us to do our part to end the stigma for those living with HIV and AIDS.

Unfortunately, Manitoba has seen a very large in- crease in the number of new HIV cases. In the last four quarters, over 200 people were newly diagnosed with HIV. I hope everyone in this House can underst and that that is an astronomically high number. That's double what it was just a few years ago. What is the minister doing to immediately address this? Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health): I do want to thank the member for Union Station for the

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 441 question. It gives me an opportunity to highlight what our government is doing. And we're working very closely with Public Health to improve the pre vention and treatment of HIV and AIDS. I w as pleased to sit down with our provincial chief Public Health officer, Dr. Roussin, who's monitoring the changes across the province, but mostly here in the city of Winnipeg. And, based on discussions with him and the pub- lic health team, our government is investing $632,000 to enhance HIV/AIDS services in areas impacted by high cases, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

MLA Asagwara: It is deeply con cerning: the newly released data on blood-borne infection shows a rapid rise in HIV infections; as I stated, over 200 in the last four quarters, and that's double the number from just a few years ago. Much more than what the minister just announced needs to be done to address this, including supervised consumption sites. That–we know, and experts are telling us tim e and time again, reduce the risk of blood-borne infections like HIV. * (14:30) When will the minister take ap propriate action, provide supervised consumption sites and reduce the growing tide of HIV infections? Ms.

Gordon: Mr. Deputy Speaker, our gov ernment has also invested $2.3 million to support the develop- ment of an Indigenous -led S -T-B-B-U testing and contact tracing strategy, enhancing treatment cover - age for those with financial barriers, as well. We are inves ting in programs to maximize treatment, preven tion and expand harm reduction strategies for those living with HIV/AIDS, and those are evidenced -informed harm reduction strategies, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And we will continue to work with grassroots and local organizations, as well as Public Health. Mr.

Deputy Speaker: The honour able member for Union Station, on a final supplementary. MLA Asagwara: Deputy Speaker, the reporting I'm referring to also shows that in the last four quarters there were also 60 diagnoses of congenital syphilis. That's up from 47 last year. Deputy Speaker, to be clear, there should be zero cases of congenital syphilis in Manitoba. This is an entirely preventable disease with proper prenatal care provided. This issue is not under control. We have raised this issue time and time and time again in this House. We have pleaded with this government to take action.

When will the minister take meaningful action to address congenital syphilis and the rising blood-borne infections here in Manitoba? Ms. Gordon: I agree there has been an increase in STBBI cases, not just in Manitoba, but across Canada. It's not unique to our province, but Manitoba's govern- ment has taken steps. We've increased syphilis testing in pregnant women in Manitoba. We've expanded harm reduction networks and peer advisory councils. Since 2019, we've provided over $850,000 in increased annual funding to the Manitoba Harm Reduction Network.

We have increased the distribution of harm reduction supplies, including $650,000 in the WRHA alone. The member for Union Station may have missed these investments; happy to table a report at a later date. Thank you. Potential Sale of Lions Place Seniors Residence Request for Government Intervention to Prevent Mr. Dougald Lamont (St. Boniface): This morning, I attended a very emotional emergency meeting at Lions Place with staff and residents about the crisis unfolding there due to the threatened sale of the building. People are angry, fearful and frustrated.

We heard residents are facing a 10 per cent rate–rent hike in spring and Lions Club is being into–driven into deficit and debt. Manitoba and Canada have a $400- million-plus housing agreement for this very purpose. A letter from Minister Dan Vandal mad e it clear that the federal government is interested in helping the Lions and this emergency can end the moment this government steps up with a real commitment of funds, because the sale is not yet complete. Will the government step up to help the seniors in their time of need? Hon.

Rochelle Squires (Minister of Families): Irrespective of that member's false assertions that he continues to put on the record each day he comes into

442 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 this House, our gov ernment is taking this –the issue very seriously. We are working very diligently. It has been very difficult for the Province to come into this space when we were not informed before decisions were made about the future of Lions Place, but we are working very diligently to ensure that the residents at Lions Place receive no rent increases. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honour able member for St. Boniface, on a follow-up. Mr. Lamont: One resident said this is an emergency– an emergency for every single one of them.

This crisis was triggered when, in 2018, Manitoba Housing stopped supporting Lions Place. And the reason Lions Place is up for sale is because, as the largest building the Lions runs, it means they won't have to close or sell off other Lions facilities like their PCH, whose mortgage expires next year. All of this was built with public money and it has always all required public support. This is a matter of political will, and if we can't provide for seniors prop- erly, we should all ask what kind of society we're living in.

On this last day of session, on behalf of the seniors of Lions Place and others facing housing insecurity, will the government do the right thing and support our seniors and Lions Club into the future? Ms. Squires: Our government is committed to afford- ability and affordable housing for all seniors in the province of Manitoba, and at this time of year–in this particular moment–especially those seniors living at Lions Place.

And we recognize the uncertainty and the anxiety that they're feeling, but I can assure them that our government is working dilige ntly to ensure that they have the longevity of their housing. That is why we've brought in some pass measures. That is why we're going to continue working towards more affordable housing in the province of Manitoba. That is why we signed on to that national action strategy and why last year's budget included enhanced investments for housing. And we quadrupled Rent Assist –something that member voted against each and every time. Shame on him.

Peter Nygård Assault Allegations Calls for Public Inquiry Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Peter Nygård has been an open secret in Winnipeg for decades and is now being tried for his crimes in New York, Ontario and Quebec, but no charges have been laid in Manitoba. Winnipeg is on the map of Nygård's shelte red training grounds, where he sexually assaulted many victims and began his human trafficking ring. Earlier this week, Manitoba Liberals held a press conference with victims of and advocates against Nygård.

We called for this government to consider the very serious damage that the lack of charges are causing to many victims. Will this government reopen the investigation and call a public inquiry into the charges against Peter Nygård? Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): I want to thank the member for the question. Of course, we –and, I think, all Manitobans –are very concerned and disturbed by the allegations against Peter Nygård, and hearing the stories from those who've come forward to share them. I want to remind the member, of course, that pro- secutions is independent.

But I do believe that it's im- portant to have a second opinion, and I've instructed the department to seek a second opinion from Crown attorneys outside the province of Manitoba and to look to see whether or not that second opinion results in a different result on charging. Northern Commercial Fishery Eco-Certification Mr. Rick Wowchuk (Swan River): Mr. Deputy Speaker, commercial fishing is a vital source of em - ployment for northern and Indigenous com munities, generating over $100 million annually and employing over 2,000 Manitobans.

Can the Minister of Natural Resources and Northern Development explain what the government is doing to ensure Manitoba's fishing industry continues to grow? Hon. Greg Nesbitt (Minister of Natural Resources and Northern Development): I'd like to thank the member for Swan River for that question. Our gov ernment recognizes the value and im - portance this industry is to northern 'indigous' –and Indigenous communities, which is why we have in - vested $2.5 million into eco -certifying our lakes and fisheries to ensure the industry can supply the growing demand for sustainably sourced fish for inter national markets.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 443 Through these efforts, I had the 'plea sunt' to an- nounce that Cedar Lake Fisheries on the Chemawawin First Nation has joined Waterhen Lake as Manitoba's second eco -certified fishery. This is an outstanding accomplishment, and it is why we will continue to work with partners to achieve eco -certification and sustainability so that fishers have world markets available to them for generations to come. Employment Leave for Miscarriage or Stillbirth Request for Support for Bill 210 Ms.

Amanda Lathlin (The Pas -Kameesak): On Monday, I reint roduced bill two–one –10, which would allow employees to take paid leave if their pregnancy or their partner's pregnancy ends in a miscarriage or a stillbirth. This was a bittersweet moment, as we are proud to bring forward this im portant legislation again, but I'm also disappointed that I had to reintroduce as – reintroduce this bill, as the PCs did not support it last session. Thankfully, they have another chance to do the right thing and support bill two–one –10 so that Manitobans have enough time to grieve. Will the PCs commit to do so today? Hon.

Reg Helwer (Minister of Labour, Consumer Protection and Government Services): Having gone through a miscarriage with my lovely wife, it is a very traumatic and trying time. We recog nize the impact that it has on families. And currently, under the code, Manitoba does offer various leaves an employee may avail them - selves of as they–if they are affected by a miscarriage or stillbirth. * (14:40) Ms. Lathlin: Miscarriages and stillbirths can be very traumatizing events for hopeful parents, and having to go back to work the day imme diately after only adds to this trauma.

Many people can't afford to take unpaid days off work, meaning that they have –they're ha ving to choose between their health and their income. Bill 210 would solve this issue by ensuring all Manitobans have access to paid days off work in the event of a miscarriage or a stillbirth. The PCs should support Bill 210 so Manitobans can take the time off they need to grieve and recover: will they do so today? Ekosi. Mr. Helwer: Well, in Manitoba, individuals may be entitled to three unpaid days of job -protected leave under the code's family-related-leave provisions.

And if a stillbirth or misc arriage occurred after the 19th week of pregnancy, the employee is entitled to maternity leave. This also aligns with federal legislation, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Ms. Lathlin: No one should have to choose between their health and their income. Yet, without paid leave from work in the event of a miscarriage or stillbirth, that's exactly what many Manitobans are having to do. A lack of time to grieve and recover can com - pound the trauma people experience.

The PCs can help solve this problem by sup - porting Bill 210, which would provide all Manitobans with paid leave in case of a miscarriage or stillbirth. Will they do the right thing and support bill 21 today–210 today? Mr. Helwer: It does bring up a traumatic time in our family, questioning of this nature. But I do recognize that it is traumatic for all families that face these parti cular circumstances, and we know that, in Manitoba, our definition of family members is among the broadest of all provinces and that we continue to review the legislation. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

Reduction in Beef Herds Request for Restocking Plan Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Manitoba Agri culture estimates that Manitoba lost 12,000 beef cows between January 2021 and January 2022. The department found that these losses can't be reversed without aggressive rebuilding. They found that, on normal, re placement herds won't be rebuilt within 10 years. Long term, it means lower herd numbers. It means a declining industry. What is the minister doing to address any of this? Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): I thank the member opposite for, finally, a question in the Chamber about agriculture.

That's wonderful. But it does remind me, Mr. Deputy Speaker, how out of retouch–of–with reality that members opposite are. Manitobans should be very wary of their hidden agenda, their hidden agenda to jack up taxes and fees to drive Manitoba Hydro into the ground, to make life less affordable for Manitobans.

444 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 We've been listening to Manitobans. We've been hearing loud and clear the things that they want, and that's what we put in our Throne Speech: making com- munities safer, life more affordable, putting patients first, putting –building stronger com munities and making Manitoba more competitive. We'll continue to work with all Manitobans, Mr. Deputy Speaker– Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable minister's time has expired. And I have a ruling for the House. The time has expired for oral questions. Speaker's Ruling Mr.

Deputy Speaker: And I have a ruling for the House. Following the land acknowledgement on November 23rd, 2022, the honourable member for Point Douglas (Mrs. Smith) raised a matter of privilege alleging that, at the end of oral questions on November 22nd, 2022, the honourable member for Midland (Mr. Pedersen) struck her chair with force with the intent of stopping her from speaking in the Chamber. The honourable member for Point Douglas noted that obstructing a member from performing their duties is a violation of parliamentary privilege.

The member concluded her remarks by moving: That this House compel the MLA for Midland to apologize for his–for this action, refer this matter to a committee of the House to examine whether any further sanctions are necessa ry for the MLA for Midland and to examine the question of how to ensure no MLA engages in any physical acts of aggression or any other act which prevents MLAs from performing their duties. The honourable member for Midland spoke to the matter and apologized to the member for his actions. The honourable Government House Leader (Mr.

Goertzen) also spoke to the matter before I took it under advisement. As members know, there are two conditions that must be satisfied in order for a matter raised to be ruled in order as a prima facie case of privilege: Was the issue raised at the earliest opportunity, and was sufficient evidence provided to support the member's claim that their privileges or the privileges of the House were breached? In her submission on thi s matter, the honourable member for Point Douglas indicated that this was her earliest opportunity to raise this matter, and I accept the member's word on that point.

On the second condition of whether the member provided sufficient evidence to support a prima facie case of privilege, there are several factors to consider. Before I proceed, I must remind members that when a presiding officer considers the merits of a matter of privilege, they must be guided only by pro- cedural considerations. Often, ther e are other factors and circumstances at play in these cases, but those must be set aside when considering such a matter on its procedural merits.

In this case, there are certainly other circumstances related to the current matter to consider, and I'll address them later in this ruling. Clearly, the obstruction of a member from their parliamentary duties would be a violation of parlia - mentary privilege.

All of the procedural authorities confirm this sentiment, including Bosc and Gagnon who state on page 110 of the third edition of House of Commons Procedure and Practice: In circumstances where members claim to be physically obstructed, impeded, interfered with or intimidated in the per - formance of their parliamentary functions, the Speaker is apt to find that a prima facie breach of privilege has occurred. This reference begs the question of what con- stitutes parliamentary functions.

While there is no codified list to guide us here, based on practical ex- perience, it's reasonable to conclude that parliam ent- ary functions would include activities in the House or in a committee, such as speaking in debate and voting. But I am not convinced that heckling should be con- sidered a parliamentary function.

It is certainly the duty and responsibility of all MLAs to represent their constituents and advocate for the issues and causes they believe in, but the most effective way to do that is by actually speaking in debate, as opposed to heckling while other members have the floor. * (14:50) I must also reference t he apology offered by the honourable member for Midland. I appreciate that the member rose to apologize imme diately after the privilege submission by the honour able member for Point Douglas and I was satisfied that his apology was sincere and genuine.

I am aware that the honourable member for Point Douglas sought more than an apology in her motion, but I must remind members that, historically in this House and in all other Canadian jurisdictions, such an

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 445 apology would be considered enough to conclude the matter. On page 267 of Parliamentary Privilege in Canada, second edition, in the section, where a member is the subject of a question of privilege, Maingot states: An apology by the offending member will invariably close the matter without the necessity of putting the motion to a vote. This has been the pra ctice in this House for generations and there are many such examples in our records. In consideration of all of these factors, I must rule that the honourable member for Point Douglas (Mrs.

Smith) did not provide sufficient evidence to prove a prima facie case of privilege, and, from a procedural perspective, I would rule this matter concluded. From the perspective of this House and this Chamber as a workplace, I do have more to say. Members will know and understand that presiding officers do their best to improve and maintain decorum in the House. Because we all care so much about why we are here, sometimes our rhetoric becomes more intense and the level of tension in the room rises. All of this is understandable and usually manageable.

On occasion however, the tone in the room goes too far, and strong words are shouted across the Chamber. Far worse than that, sometimes physical actions can escalate the tension in the room. I appreciate the apology offered by the honour - able member for Midland (Mr. Pedersen); however, the member should be aware that his action was received as a violation of personal space, and it was clearly offensive and upsetting for the honourable member for Point Douglas. I would strongly advise all members to bear in mind how your actions in this place might be received by others, and govern your - selves accordingly.

We can disagree with each other in this place, but we must do that respectfully, as respect should be the basis for our parliamentary democracy. There is nothing wrong with us being adversaries in this Assembly. I believe that it is, in fact, quite healthy for our democracy. The problems arise when we start considering each other as enemies. I would add to this ruling that I am aware that Madam Speaker has been consi dering developing a code of conduct for members of this Assembly.

Given recent events in the House, I am going to recommend to her that she initiate that project as soon as possible by convening an all-party working group to prepare a draft document for consideration by our Legislative Assembly Management Commission. I will conclude with some simple advice for all members. People watch what we do here, and what we do here matters. So, while we are doing this important work, let's remember to be kind to each other. We can disagree, debate, criticize and advocate, but, if we cannot be kind in this place, how can we expect our constituents to respect us and support us?

Thank you for your attention to this ruling. Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): I must respectfully disagree with a lot of what you said. This is a bad decision which sets a precedent that it's okay to strike another member's chair if they are heckling. I–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, please. Mr. Kinew: –thereby challenge your– Mr. Deputy Speaker: The ruling can be challenged, not debated. The ruling of the Chair has been challenged. The question before the House is, shall the ruling of the Chair be sustained? Some Honourable Members: Agreed. Some Honourable Members: No. Voice Vote Mr.

Deputy Speaker: All those in favour, please say yea. Some Honourable Members: Yea. Mr. Deputy Speaker: All those opposed, please say nay. Some Honourable Members: Nay. Mr. Deputy Speaker: In my opinion, the Yeas have it. Recorded Vote MLA Nahanni Fontaine (Official Opposition House Leader): A recorded vote, Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker: A recorded vote having been called, call in the members. Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, please. [interjection] Order, please. [interjection] I am calling order.

This is a serious matter and I will not have mem- bers chirping at each other during the vote.

446 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 Division A RECORDED VOTE was taken, the result being as follows: Yeas Clarke, Cox, Cullen, Ewasko, Friesen, Goertzen, Gordon, Guenter, Guillemard, Helwer, Isleifson, Johnston, Khan, Lagassé, Lagimodiere, Martin, Michaleski, Morley -Lecomte, Nesbitt, Pedersen, Piwniuk, Reyes, Schuler, Smith (Lagimodière), Smook, Squires, Stefanson, Teitsma, Wharton, Wishart, Wowchuk. Nays Altomare, Asagwara, Brar, Bushie, Fontaine, Kinew, Lathlin, Lindsey, Maloway, Marcelino, Moses, Naylor, Redhead, Sala, Sandhu, Smith (Point Douglas), Wasyliw, Wiebe. Clerk (Ms.

Patricia Chaychuk): Yeas 31, Nays 18. * (15:00) Mr. Deputy Speaker: Ruling of the Chair has been sustained. Speaker's Statement Mr. Deputy Speaker: As the House is expected to adjourn later today for our winter break, and as Youth Parliament will be using the Chamber later this month, I would encourage all honourable members to remove the contents of their desks today. I would further encourage members to recycle as much of the material as possible. The blue bins here in the Chamber are designated for recycling of Hansard only.

Any other material you would like to recycle can be placed in the larger recycling con - tainers in the message rooms located just outside the Chamber. Thank you. * * * Mr. Deputy Speaker: Petitions? Seeing no petitions, grievances? ORDERS OF THE DAY (Continued) GOVERNMENT BUSINESS Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): I have a leave request. In accordance with

section 34 of the Sessional Order passed by this House on October 7th, 2020, and subsequently amended, I'm seeking leave of the House to further amend that same Sessional Order so that (1) in the first paragraph, December 1, 2022, is replaced by June 1st, 2023; and

(2) section 31 is deleted. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is there leave to further amend the Sessional Order passed by this House on October 7th, 2020, and subsequently amend, so that (1) in the first paragraph, December 1, 2022, is replaced by June 1, 2023; and

(2) section 31 is deleted. Is there leave? [Agreed] Mr. Goertzen: I have two leave requests related to today's House business. First, could you please canvass the House for leave to allow the following bills to be considered for con - currence and third reading this afternoon: Bill 3, The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration); Bill 5, The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended); and Bill 213, The Animal Care Amendment Act. Mr.

Deputy Speaker: Is there leave to allow the fol- lowing bills to be considered for concurrence and third reading this afternoon: Bill 3, The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration); Bill 5, T he Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended); Bill 213, The Animal Care Amendment Act. Is there leave? [Agreed] Mr. Goertzen: Could you please canvass the House for leave to

schedule the following items of busi ness today at the times noted, with the under standing that the Deputy Speaker or Chairperson will be empower- ed to interrupt debate if necessary to put the questions without further debate at these appointed times:

(1) Com mittee of the Whole on Bill 200 will begin imme diately following this request, with the questions put by 3:15;

(2) Concurrence and third reading of Bill 3 will begin at 3:15, with the questions to be put by 3:35 p.m.;

(3) Concurrence and third reading of Bill 5 will be- gin at 3:35 p.m., with the questions to be put at 3:45 p.m.;

(4) Concurrence and third reading of Bill 213 will begin at two–sorry, at 3:45 p.m., with the questions to be put by 4:05 p.m.; Concurrence and third reading of Bill 200 will begin at 4:05 p.m., with the questions to be put by 4:20 p.m.; Royal assent of bills 3, 4, 5, 200 and 213 will occur at 4:20 p.m.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 447 If any of this business concludes before the noted deadline time, the House may proceed to the next item on the list, with the end times remaining the same. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is there leave to

schedule the following items of business today at the times noted, with the under standing that the Deputy Speaker or Chairperson will be empowered to interrupt debate if necessary to put the questions without further debate at these appointed times:

(1) Com mittee of the Whole on Bill 200 will begin imme diately following this request, with the questions to be put at 3:15;

(2) Concurrence and third reading of Bill 3 will begin at 3:15, with the question to be put at 3:35;

(3) Concurrence and third reading of Bill 5 will begin at 3:35, with the question to be put at 3:45;

(4) Concurrence and third reading of Bill 213 will begin at 3:45; with the question to be put at 4:05;

(5) Concurrence and third reading of Bill 200 will begin at 4:05, with the question to be put at 4:20;

(6) Royal assent of bills 3, 4, 5, 200 and 213 will occur at 4:20 p.m. If any of this business concludes before the noted deadline time, the House may proceed to the next item on the list, with the end times to remain the same. Is there leave? [Agreed] The hon ourable Gov ernment House Leader, on House business. House Business Mr. Goertzen: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I'd like to an - nounce the Standing Committee on Legis lative Affairs will meet on Monday, December 19th, 2022, at 10 a.m. to consider the following: the Annual Report of Elections Manitoba for the year ending December 31st, 2021. Mr.

Deputy Speaker: It has been announced by the honourable Gov ernment House Leader that the Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs will meet on Monday, December 19th, 2022, at 10 a.m. to consider the annual report of Elections Manitoba for the year ending December 31st, 2021. * * * Mr. Deputy Speaker: The–okay. I'm just going to get my papers in order here. * (15:10) As previously agreed, we will begin Com mittee of the Whole to consider Bill 200. Mr. Deputy Speaker, please take the Chair. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Mr. Deputy Chairperson (Dennis Smook): Will the Committee of the Whole please come to order.

Bill 200–The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) Mr. Deputy Chairperson: As announced, this com- mittee will now consider the following: Bill 200, The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended). Does the sponsor of the bill, the honour able member for St. Vital (Mr. Moses), have an opening statement? Mr. Jamie Moses (St. Vital): I just want to make a brief statement to say I encourage all members who are going to be voting for the Black History Month bill to actually come to a Black History Month event this February.

There are many events to participate in across the province, especially here in Winnipeg. I would encourage all members and all those who are watching at home, partici pate in Black History Month. It's a wonderful time. Lots of events, lots of learning, lots of celebration. So come and celebrate Black History Month in February. Mr. Deputy Chairperson: We thank the member for that statement. Do any other members wish to make an opening statement? Seeing none, during the consid eration of a bill, the enacting clause and the title are postponed until all other c lauses have been considered in their proper order.

Clause 1 –pass; clause 2 –pass; clause 3 –pass; enacting clause–pass; title–pass. Bill be reported. Committee rise. That concludes the business before the committee. The hour being 3:13, what is the will of the com- mittee? Some Honourable Members: Committee rise. Mr. Deputy Chairperson: Com mittee rise. Call in the Speaker.

448 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 IN SESSION Committee Report Mr. Dennis Smook (Deputy Chairperson): The Committee of the Whole has considered the following: Bill 200, The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks, and Months Act Amended), and reports the same without amendment. I move, seconded by the honourable member for Swan River (Mr. Wowchuk) , that the report of the committee be received. Mr. Deputy Speaker: I need to indicate that the mover and seconder must be in their own chair. Mr.

Dennis Smook (Deputy Chairperson): The member for Seine River –I move, seconded by the honourable member for Seine River (Ms. Morley- Lecomte), that the rep ort of the com mittee be received. Motion agreed to. CONCURRENCE AND THIRD READINGS Bill 3–The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration) Mr. Deputy Speaker: As previously announced, we will now move to concurrence and third reading of Bill 3, The Vital Statistics Amend ment Act (Name Registration). Hon. Reg Helwer (Minister of Labour, Consumer Protection and Government Services): I move, seconded by the Mi nister of Finance (Mr.

Friesen), that Bill 3, The Vital Statistics Amend ment Act (Name Registration), reported from the Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development, be concurred in and now read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr. Helwer: Really pleased to stand here at third reading and talk about this, The Vital Statistics Act amendment, which will modernize The Vital Statistics Act to expand the parameters of name registration to include a winder rage of characters and nam es in recognition of traditional Indigenous languages , as well as many other languages and cultures, Mr. Deputy Speaker.

And this has been a request we've been working on, on some time. It's very critical that we move this ahead so we can done quickly and move on to the next step, which is communing with federal government and agencies that we know have to change how they accept as well as other provinces. And looking back on how people can reclaim their traditional names or, as you probably know, w e follow a common practice in our gov ernment, as op- posed to previous gov ernments that didn't go to Treasury Board. In order to change fees to forgive going back to the traditional names, we have to go to Treasury Board.

And we –once this act is passed, we will be able to take that step, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank you. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Are there any other speakers? Mr. Ian Bushie (Keewatinook): Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for a chance to share a few words on the–Bill 3, The Vital Statistics Amendment Act. And, again, as been mentioned in previous op- portunities to speak to this piece of legislation, is that it's still incomplete; it is still not enough.

The minister had shared that these attempts and this change to this act is going to be effective basically here in Manitoba, and that he is going to, quote unquote, reach out and advocate to the federal govern- ment to change their system s to also allow this to happen. And time and time again we've asked that question, exactly how is that going to be.

And specifically towards Indigenous communities, Indigenous people here in Manitoba, that primarily a lot of their identification is actually federal identification, whether it be their pass- port or whether it be this–their treaty status cards, which this legislation and this changes that are going to be made here will not allow that to happen here. So, potentially, there'll be lot of confusion that will go on, then, to actually have them potentially have two pieces of identification with differentiating names, which will ultimately cause a lot more confusion.

So we did call upon this gov ernment to make those changes and to say wha t that advocacy was going to be on a federal level, and we didn't hear any of that in this legislation. And don't get me wrong, Mr. Deputy Speaker, this is a start, but at the same time we cannot always be at the starting stage of being–making positive changes towards Indigenous reconciliation here in Manitoba. We have to be able to see it through to the end result, and this piece of legis lation does not do that, but it does do a start.

So we are in support of this legis lation for the intent that it is, but it is still not complete and we want to share those words on the record.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 449 Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. * (15:20) Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): I'm happy to rise and just have the op portunity to share a few more words on the record with respect to Bill 3. Want to take this opportunity to just remind the gov- ernment of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's Call to Action No. 17 that would enable survivors and their families to reclaim names changed by the residen- tial school system, as well as waiving adminis trative costs.

And I think that this is a op portunity that the government does have to take in respect the calls for truth and reconciliation, and I hope that they do make these changes and ensure that it is part of the legis - lation and how it is, in fact, practised. I also want to just encourage the gov ernment to work with Vital Stats Manitoba as much as possible to ensure that there aren't any backlogs and ensure that those who want to have access and to utilize this legis- lation and change their names, that they have the ability to do so.

I know many people who may want to use this legislation may not have easy access, for example, to a phone line or they might not have a permanent address and we just want to make sure that we're doing whatever we can as prov incial legislatures to ensure that anyone who perhaps has even in the past tried to change their names are made aware of this legislation and that we're removing as many barriers as possible for that. And lastly, Mr.

Deputy Speaker, I think it's just very im portant that those using this new change to Vital Statistics Manitoba understand that it is new legislation and there are some potential limitations, whether that be through technology or just other parts of the world having to catch up. We want to make sure people understand that, for example, if they change their name for having a first and last name to just one name, that, at this point in time, they cannot have a valid passport.

That was something that the minister shared with us, and we just– we want to make sure that people are fully aware of the changes being made and of potential limitations, and that this gov ernment is working inter jurisdictionally with other provinces and territor ies and even other parts of the world to make sure that these limitations and barriers are removed. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Are there any other speakers? Seeing none, the question before the House is third–concurrence and third reading of Bill 3, The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration).

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] Bill 5–The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended) Mr. Deputy Speaker: We will now move, as pre- viously announced, to concurrence and third reading on Bill 5, The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended). Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): I move, seconded by the Minister of Labour, Consumer Protec tion and Gov ernment Services (Mr.

Helwer), that Bill 5, The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended), reported from the Standing Com mittee on Social and Economic Development, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr. Goertzen: Mr. Deputy Speaker, I spoke to the contents of this bill at second reading. There were questions that arose during the question- and-answer period. I answered them at committee last night. There were no presenters, so there's nothing further that I need to expound on in third reading. Mr.

Matt Wiebe (Concordia): As much as I'd like to add to the–you know, many words that have been put on the record with regards to this bill–I know we had a robust debate at second reading–I think I'll keep my comments short. I know I have important business that needs to be done today. I did have an oppor tunity to pop on and listen to committee last night. Ap preciate that the minister's brought back some of that information and appreciate that this is largely administrative. And so we look forward to seeing this passed and moving on to the rest of the business for the afternoon. Hon.

Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, this bill is pretty straight for- ward. As a result of the passing of Queen Elizabeth II and ascension to the throne of King Charles III, we need to make some changes and we're able to make, in this bill, changes which also would allow these changes to be made without necessarily having legis- lation in the future. So we are in full agreement with this. I would say also, very bri efly, that we are thankful to

450 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 Queen Elizabeth II for her tre mendous contribution over so many years and we look forward to working with King Charles III and his particular interest in the environment, I think, is very encouraging because it's an extraordinarily important topic for the planet at the moment. Thank you. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Are there any other speakers? Seeing no further speakers, the question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 5, The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended).

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] CONCURRENCE AND THIRD READINGS– PUBLIC BILLS Bill 213–The Animal Care Amendment Act Mr. Deputy Speaker: We will now move, as pre- viously announced, to concurrence and third reading of Bill 213, The Animal Care Amendment Act. Mr. Obby Khan (Fort Whyte): I move, seconded by member for Radisson (Mr. Teitsma), that Bill 213, The Animal Care Amendment Act, reported from the Standing Com mittee on Social and Economic Development, be concurred and now be read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr.

Khan: It is an honour for me to rise today and have my first bill passed unanimously with the sup- port of everyone in this House. I think that it shows that we can work together when we have to and the animals thank us. I know all the animals throughout this House, that–but not the members sitting in here, but all the animals throughout Manitoba really thank us for this. This is a step–progressive step forward in protect- ing animals across Manitoba and I look forward to bringing more bills forward to–for further protections of animals here in Manitoba. Thank you, Mr.

Deputy Speaker, and I thank everyone for their support. Mr. Matt Wiebe (Concordia): Wow, Mr. Deputy Speaker, getting in twice in one week to stand up and talk about animals. This is a real pleasure and a real treat. I want to commend the member for Fort Whyte. I think this bill is an important one and certainly speaks to the importance of looking after pets and animals in our city and our province. And I think it really does help strengthen–again, we have some of these rules in place here in the city of Winnipeg, but expands that throughout the province, and I think that's a com - mendable goal.

I also, while I have the oppor tunity, wanted to make sure that I shouted out my colleague from St. Johns, who's been an absolute pioneer and leader with regards to animal welfare in our province, and I think she's done a great job of ensuring that this issue remains at the forefront. And, you know, I hear the member for Fort Whyte talking about, you know, bipartisan support for this. I think it is a good model. I'm hoping that we can continue this model, and the next time we bring a great piece of leg islation forward by the member for St.

Johns (MLA Fontaine), maybe he, you know, he won't listen to other voices in his caucus that say, oh, you know, it's got to be the orange team versus the blue team. Sometimes we're here for the pets and for the animals. So, hopefully, this will continue on this issue and others. I also would be remiss if I don't, one more time, thank Mr. Brady Oliveira for coming down to the Legislature and most im portantly, allowing me to spend some time with his dogs, but, in all seriousness, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for the great work that he does for animals across our province.

And I know that that shows his commitment to our com munity. And he is just one of so many people. As I mentioned, even in my own constituency, folks who give, you know, so much of themselves to rescue animals and to put those pets first. It really is commendable, Mr.

Deputy Speaker, and when we can, as legis lators, stand behind those people, in their work with animals, I think that's a very good step in the right direction. * (15:30) So, as I said, I hope this is just one step of many and that we can continue to work on these kinds of issues and others in lockstep to make sure that we can get some things done for animal welfare in this province. Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Again, I rise just to put a few more thoughts on the record here about Bill 213.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 451 And it is an excellent piece of legis lation, and I really want to commend the member for Fort W hyte (Mr. Khan) for doing the amount of consul tation in– which he did and bringing to the Manitoba Legislature not only those he consulted with, but also a bunch of dogs, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It really did make for a fun and enjoyable morning here at the Leg. just yesterday, and it was a nice change of pace for once here in these Chambers. So I want to thank the member for doing that.

I'm excited to be able to work with the member and the department responsible for the animal protec- tion act, actually, on another piece of legislation pro- tecting cats here in the province of Manitoba. And it's actually based off an idea that someone came and shared with me at McDonald's on Saturday. And I've already spoken with the member from Fort Whyte about it a little bit, and we're hoping to be able to work together on this piece of legislation moving forward.

And, lastly, just to congratulate him–I believe this is his first piece of legislation and that's always a very exciting time here in the Chamber–and just say thank you to all of those who have been lobbying the gov- ernment over the years, both past NDP and current Conservative government, and just all the work that you're doing to protect animals here in our province. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Are there any further speakers? Seeing none, the question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 213, The Animal Care Amendment Act.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] Bill 200–The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) Mr. Deputy Speaker: We will now move, as pre- viously announced and agreed, to concurrence and third reading of Bill 200, The Black History Month Act (Com memoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended). Mr. Jamie Moses (St.

Vital): I move, seconded by the member for Union Station (MLA Asagwara), that Bill 200, The Black History Month Act (Com memo- ration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended), reported from the Committee of the Whole, be con- curred in and be now read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr. Moses: I'm happy that we've reached this stage of the bill. I'm excited that many members have show- ed support for this piece of legislation that will recog- nize, officially, February as Black History Month in Manitoba.

And I think that, as a sign that it's going to be a unanimous vote–I hope–sure hope it is –that it shows that Black history is more than just people –for the Black community. It's really all of our history is Black history, and Black history is part of entire Canadian history. And I think that's one of the points of Black history, is to make that acknowl edgement that –the importance of Black history as part of everything that happens in Canada.

So, we're very happy to bring this forward, to have it supported, to now acknowledge and lift up the people who've been doing the work, the heavy lifting, over many decades. To–and make sure many Manitobans know about Black history, open–hopefully open up more doors for this history to be told to more Manitobans. And that will, Mr. Deputy Speaker, be our goal, to ensure that future genera tions are enlightened and empowered by what we do here today in the know - ledge that all of us are supporting Black history here in Manitoba. So, thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr.

Obby Khan (Fort Whyte): Now, I rise with a tre- mendous amount of honour to support this bill. As I spoke this morning, earlier, as a person of–a visible minority, that supporting bills like this is im- portant, but it's also that everyone around here sup- ported this bill. And what I would say–I mean, I'm new here, but I thought my bill being passed in four days from Monday to today, Bill 213, is actually trumped by the member from St. Vital with his being –bill passed today.

And it just shows the power of what we can do when we work together to accomplish such great bills and progressive thinking and forward movement to bring Manitoba together. So I'm really honoured that that was–I was able to support this and stand and say a few words on the record. The recognition of this month further takes steps toward equality, and that's what we're all here working towards. When our kids are out there, when our com- munity members are out there and they see people from all backgrounds, all faiths, sexual orientations, that we

452 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 are working towards equality, and this Legislative Assembly is representative of that. Black History Month gives Manitobans an oppor- tunity to remember, celebrate and educate further gen- erations about the contributions of Black people and people of African descent to Manitoba's economic, social, political and cultural life. So, it is with a tremendous amount of honour that I'm happy this bill is being passed. Congratulations to the member from St. Vital, and thank you for your time, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr.

Deputy Speaker, I'm pleased to support this legis lation, and thank the member for bringing this forward. It is time that we do this. Black History Month has long been a month of celebration and awareness here in Manitoba, which there are many events organized by the Black community and in support of the Black community. We have an increasing population of people who are Black in Manitoba, with many new immigrants who've come from various countries in Africa in parti- cular, but certainly, not exclusively from Africa; from the Caribbean and, indeed, many people who've come from other countries on the way.

Here, Willard Reaves was a long -time history of being in the United States, and he came here more recently, as an example. So, it is fitting that we do this, and it's going to be an im portant con tribution to Manitoba and to Manitobans in the years ahead to have this recognized as Black History Month and to be able to celebrate the achievements of individuals in the Black com munity who've contributed so much to our province. Thank you. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Are there any other speakers? [interjection] I'm sorry, the honour able member for Union Station.

MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): I'm grateful for another opportunity to put some words on the record in regards to this bill. Again, I'm proud to have seconded this bill, and I'm really proud of my colleague, the MLA for St. Vital, for bringing this bill forward. It is–it's really important that, wherever we can formally, by way of law, recognize, you know, a month like Black History Month, I think that it's important that we do so. And I'll share a little bit about my own back- ground. So, I'm a–many people know, I'm a first-gen- eration Canadian. I'm a Nigerian person.

I'm Ibo, more specifically; that's the tribe that I belong to and th at my people belong to. And being a first-gen Canadian, growing up here in Winnipeg, in a community, at the time, back in the day–back in the '80s and '90s –which was pre domi- nantly white at that time, St. Norbert. Very diverse now, but back when I was growing up, not so much.

My parents worked really, really hard as new - comers, as immigrants, to organize within Black com- munities, within the African community, within the Nigerian community, to make sure that their kids and other people's kids felt really proud to be Black, and proud to be African. And it is the efforts of our elders, it is the efforts of people who have come before us, that have given folks like myself and like my colleague, the MLA for St.

Vital, to be able to be in this House, to be a member of this esteemed place and bring forward legis lation that really uplifts and celebrates the efforts of our elders, that celebrates the efforts of those that came before us and paved the way for us to even be members in this Chamber. * (15:40) Earlier today, when I had a moment to speak on the importance of this bill, I mentioned really briefly the importance of recognizing Black youth. And I want to reiterate those words again.

Black youth across our province and across our country are doing incredible things to celebrate and amplify the Black community, and are advancing us in a way that re - imagines what the futures of Black people in Canada and in Manitoba, in the Prairies can look like. And I think that's really important.

Not only is Black History Month about cele - brating the past and how far we've come and making sure that we have a written discourse around history that is accurate–because so much of the history we learn here, unfortunately, is history that has erased the contributions of Black com munities, it's im portant that we are writing a narrative and sharing stories that accurately reflect the con tributions of Black people – but that we also recognize that the youth have a vision for their own futures, for the futures of Black people across the Prairies, across our country and globally,

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 453 that needs to be heard and should–deserves to be supported. And so, I want to highlight in credible youth. I think about the youth, for example, who organized the Justice 4 Black Lives rally, the biggest rally surround- ing Black rights and injustices against Black commu- nities and the injustices of violence perpetrated against Black com munities by the police and by the state. That rally was organized by Black youth. It was led by queer Black youth, by Black mothers, by Black folks who so often lead our movements.

And so, to those folks and to the young people who are visioning and reimagining what Black futures–and, quite frankly, the future for all of us–can and should look like here in Manitoba, I thank you and we celebrate you, and that's what my colleague's bill is really all about. It's also about lifting up folks who are thinking about Black futures.

And I want to be clear that the language of Black futures is langu age that was genesised from Black artists, which, I think, is a really im portant thing we don't talk about enough: that art and artists are in and of themselves activists, and they are the folks who, you know, through their creative talents, really illustrate for us the op portunities that exist to create the world that we want to see. And so, I want to thank Black artists and creatives who do a ton of heavy lifting and who–many of which are activists within their art, within their–whatever their respective talents are and their focuses are.

You know, we have to make sure that we recog- nize artists as revolutionaries. And there are folks like Syrus Marcus Ware that I think of. Rodney Diverlus. I think of, you know, many folks come to mind who we need to celebrate. I think of also, you know, Black politicians that we need to high–like Andrea Jenkins and other folks who have paved the way for us.

And I want to make sure that when we have this conversation about Black History Month that we talk about the diversity that exists within Black commu - nities, which is why I do think it is fundamentally im- portant we talk about the creatives that, quite literally, sometimes illustrate the possibilities for us that exist for all Manitobans in respect of Black communities. Here in Manitoba, we have some pretty well - known and renowned artists. I think of one, Yisa, who's a Nigerian artist. Absolutely incredible.

Recent- ly established alongside other folks, a Canadian artist initiative that highlights Canadian Black artists across the country, an effort that launched at the Canadian museum of human rights. And, you know, Yisa's work is internationally renowned, but this particular effort, where he was able to also high light many other local artists, speaks to the value that Black creatives hold in our communities. And, you know, something that my colleague, the MLA for St.

Vital, and I have discussed, and other folks, is that's it's one thing to have this law passed, but we need to make sure that we are advocating for there to be intentional efforts made at the government level to support the very diverse and dynamic Black communities here in Manitoba. We need to make sure that, as legislators, we are doing our part to ensure that Black organizations, that Black initiatives, be them formal, like, non-profits and charities, or maybe even informal, if that's the needs of the com munities, like collectives, et cetera, are being met, that their voices are being heard.

And for too long in Manitoba, Black com mu- nities, organizations and initiatives have gone without equitable access to funding. They've gone without equitable access to resources and relationships, which would see their efforts really be able to be maximized to the benefit of all Manitobans. Now, you've highlighted organizations like Black History Month Manitoba; they're outstanding. Those folks have done so much, so much for our com mu- nities; again, quite frankly, without the resources they deserve.

And so, with this bill in mind, I sincerely hope that all of us take it upon ourselves to advocate so that Black communities also see equity in all spaces, all places, and that we're advocating on behalf and along- side those who have, quite frankly, helped advance human rights in Manitoba to the benefit of everybody. Thank you, Deputy Speaker. Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): It's an honour to stand today and speak about Bill 200, The Black History Month Act (Com memoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended). First of all, I want to say thank you to my col - league, the member from St.

Vital, for bringing this bill forward. It's very important for us–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, please. Mr. Brar: –to embrace diversity–[interjection] Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order, please.

454 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 Just going to ask if the numer ous conversations could be a little quieter, if possible. One or two is perhaps a little quieter than multiple ones. So if members could bear that in mind so that the member for Burrows can speak clearly and I can hear as well. Mr. Brar: I was talk ing about diversity and–which I'm very proud of. And being the first turbaned mem- ber in this Legislature, I feel –how it feels like repre - senting the minorities, and I'm very happy to see people of colour in this Chamber.

And when we talk about, parti cularly this bill, The Black History Month Act, I'm so happy to see three members repre senting all other Manitobans, including the people from the Black communities and the African com munities, but sometimes I wonder that–why it took so long for these discussions and debates and these words to be heard in this Chamber. Why didn't this happen 20 years back? Why didn't we hear about the Black History Month at 10 years back?

We had to wait for somebody from that com - munity to get elected and sit in this Chamber, think about what's the right thing to do and then bring in this legislation. But it's never too late. I'm happy that all the elect- ed representatives in this Chamber, they are in favour of this act, this bill, and we are working together to embrace that diversity. Still, we need to think that there is a lot that is unknown about the ethnic com munities. Sometimes, we share things within our own com munity. Some- times, we fail to bridge the gaps; I mean to say, the communication gaps between various ethnic groups.

So it's very important when we discuss about this particular bill today here, that all of us should make efforts to know more about the contributions, the sacrifices and the hard work that Black Manitobans have done to build our province and to build our beau- tiful country, Canada. * (15:50) During the process, I'm pretty sure that this mem- ber has worked with so many organizations that all the members don't know about, are not aware about. So, I would think that we must make connections.

We must identify the organizations that represent the African communities and connect with them to know much more about the subject. I can also proudly say that we all worked together to bring in other such bills and support the m to be - come the law. For example, Filipino Heritage Month. I represent so many members–so many con stituents whose roots connect to Filipino heritage; similarly, Hindu and Sikh heritage. So those are the people I represent in this Chamber. So it's always, always good to work together. It's always good to respect this diversity and it's always good to talk about various ethnic groups.

Because, why it's important is that there are so many prejudices about the people who don't look like us because of the lack of knowledge, because of the lack of awareness about those religions, about those cultures, about what they wear, about how they talk, about what their lan- guage is. So we should be knowing each other better at formal platforms and informal platforms , because this country, this province, is known for its diversity. And when we talk about diversity, we feel so good about it because, you know, this nature is di - verse.

I have said this in my remarks in the past in this Chamber that, just imagine –just i magine–a garden with flowers of single colour. It won't even look like a garden. So, the nature is diverse; there are different colours, different religions, different ethnicities. So I would conclude here that I am so happy to speak about this bill and happy that it's going to be law soon. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is it the pleasure of –sorry, let me ask a few other ones. Are there any other speakers? Is the House ready for the question? An Honourable Member: Question. Mr.

Deputy Speaker: The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 200, The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended). Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] I declare the motion carried. Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): I believe the House is ready to prepare for royal assent. Mr. Deputy Speaker: Okay. I am advised that Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor, is about to arrive to grant royal assent to the bills, so I am therefore interrupting the proceedings of the House for the royal assent.

December 1, 2022 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 455 ROYAL ASSENT Deputy Sergeant -at-Arms (Mr. Cam Steel): Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor. Her Honour Anita R. Neville, Lieutenant Governor of the Province of Manitoba, having entered the House and being seated on the throne, M r. Deputy Speaker addressed Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor in the following words: * (16:00) Mr. Deputy Speaker: Your Honour: At this sitting, the Legislative Assembly has passed ce rtain bills that I ask Your Honour to give assent to: Clerk Assistant (Ms. Vanessa Gregg): Bill 3 – The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration) ; Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les statistiques de l'état civil (forme du nom) Bill 4 – The Minimum Wa ge Adjustment Act, 2022 (Employment Standards Code Amended) ; Loi de 2022 sur le rajustement du salaire minimum (modification du Code des normes d'emploi) Bill 5 – The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended);

Loi sur la dévolution de la Couronne (modification de diverses lois) Bill 200 – The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended);

Loi sur le Mois de l'histoire des Noirs (modification de la

Loi sur les journées, les semaines et les mois commémoratifs) Bill 213 – The Animal Care Amendment Act; Loi modifiant la

Loi sur le soin des animaux Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): In her majesty's name, Her Honour assents to these bills. Her Honour was then pleased to retire. * * * Mr. Deputy Speaker: Please be seated. An Honourable Member: Point of order. Point of Order Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a point of order. Mr.

Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): This being the last sitting day before the holiday season, I'd like to take this opportunity to wish every- body a merry Christmas, a happy holiday, a safe holiday with their families; to thank the clerks, the Hansard staff, the Sergeant -at-Arms and the Legislative Building security, as well as the Legislative pages and clerks, as well as yourself for your hard work this session. And I would be remiss if I did not thank our won- derful House leader for all of her work shepherding us through.

And since we are in the spirit of giving, why not also thank the Gov ernment House Leader (Mr. Goertzen), as well. Merry Christmas. Mr. Deputy Speaker: On the same point of order, the honourable First Minister. Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): On the same point of order. I'm not sure that it is a point of order, but it is a point, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and the point that we want to say is merry Christmas, happy holidays to every - one, as well. We wish you all the best and all your families the very best in this holiday season.

I also want to extend that to all of our–the clerks and table staff, to our pages, to Hansard, to everyone that helps–translation services, to everyone that helps us on a daily basis throughout session and beyond that in the Manitoba Legislature. And to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And we also just want to pass on our very best to Madam Speaker, as well, and we look forward to seeing her soon, as well. And also to our Government House Leader, thank you to Minister Goertzen, as well –oh, sorry, sorry – Minister of Justice (Mr.

Goertzen), as well as the Op- position House Leader, and to all of the –the Liberal House leader, as well, and to the Liberal members of the Chamber, as well. Merry Christmas, happy holidays to all. Mr. Deputy Speaker: On the same point of order? Mr. Dougald Lamont (St. Boniface): Same point of order. I could pull a Frank Costanza and have an airing of grievances for Festivus, but I won't. I'll say thank you very much, instead.

I'll put a litany of gratitude and congratulations and best wishes for everybody for a safe and a healthy holiday season, and to have some really wonderful time with your family and friends over the next few weeks. So, thank you so very, very much. Merci.

456 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA December 1, 2022 Mr. Deputy Speaker: Probably everybody knows it's not a point of order, but it is a good point to make. And I wish to take this opportunity, other than to remind everyone to empty their desks, to say a sincere thank you to the clerks. The whole team have been very gracious to me as I found myself in this role these last few weeks. And to thank all members, as well. I know that you've had to bear with my rookie errors and mistakes here and there. I do say, sincerely, thank you.

And wish you all a very merry Christmas, happy new year, happy holidays and trust we will all be back here safely in due time. * * * Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): Can you canvass the House to see if it's the will of the members to call it 5 p.m., Mr. Deputy Speaker? Mr. Deputy Speaker: Is it the will of members to call it 5 p.m.? [Agreed] The hour being 5 p.m., this House is adjourned and stands adjourned until the call of the Speaker, I believe. That's it? [interjection] Call in–at the call of the Speaker. Merry Christmas, everybody. Empty your desks.

Have a wonderful holiday and see you all next year, if not before.

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Thursday, December 1, 2022 CONTENTS ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Introduction of Bills Bill 218–An Act Respecting the Title "Associate Judge" (Various Acts Amended) Fontaine 429 Committee Reports Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development Second Report Smook 429 Ministerial Statements International Day of Persons With Disabilities Squires 430 Redhead 431 Gerrard 431 World AIDS Day Gordon 431 Asagwara 432 Gerrard 432 Members' Statements Justine Proulx Gordon 433 Health-Care System Asagwara 433 Becki Thiessen Guillemard 434 Sheri Porth Redhead 434 Rhonda Nichol Gerrard 435 Oral Questions Manitoba Hydro Assets Kinew 435 Stefanson 435 Health-Care System Reform Kinew 436 Stefanson 437 Manitoba Hydro Assets Sala 437 Friesen 438 Manager at Grace Hospital Marcelino 438 Gordon 439 U of M Dietetics Program Moses 439 Reyes 439 Post-Secondary Education Moses 440 Reyes 440 New Congenital Syphilis and HIV/AIDS Cases Asagwara 440 Gordon 440 Potential Sale of Lions Place Seniors Residence Lamont 441 Squires 441 Peter Nygård Assault Allegations Lamoureux 442 Goertzen 442 Northern Commercial Fishery Wowchuk 442 Nesbitt 442 Employment Leave for Miscarriage or Stillbirth Lathlin 443 Helwer 443 Reduction in Beef Herds Brar 443 Stefanson 443 Speaker's Ruling Micklefield 444 Speaker's Statement Micklefield 446

ORDERS OF THE DAY (Continued) GOVERNMENT BUSINESS Committee of the Whole Bill 200–The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) Moses 447 Committee Report Smook 448 Concurrence and Third Readings Bill 3–The Vital Statistics Amendment Act (Name Registration) Helwer 448 Bushie 448 Lamoureux 449 Bill 5–The Demise of the Crown Act (Various Acts Amended) Goertzen 449 Wiebe 449 Gerrard 449 Concurrence and Third Readings–Public Bills Bill 213–The Animal Care Amendment Act Khan 450 Wiebe 450 Lamoureux 450 Bill 200–The Black History Month Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) Moses 451 Khan 451 Gerrard 452 Asagwara 452 Brar 453 Royal Assent Bill 3 – The Vital Statisti

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