Manitoba Hansard — Sitting 61 (42nd Legislature, 5th Session)

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Fifth Session – Forty-Second Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXXVII No. 61 - 1:30 p.m., Monday, May 29, 2023 ISSN 0542-5492

MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-Second Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALTOMARE, Nello Transcona NDP ASAGWARA, Uzoma Union Station NDP BRAR, Diljeet Burrows NDP BUSHIE, Ian Keewatinook NDP CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy Kildonan-River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Roblin PC EICHLER, Ralph Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne, Hon. Lac du Bonnet PC FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GORDON, Audrey, Hon. Southdale PC GUENTER, Josh Borderland PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah, Hon.

Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek, Hon. Interlake-Gimli PC JOHNSTON, Scott, Hon. Assiniboia PC KHAN, Obby, Hon. Fort Whyte PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLEIN, Kevin E., Hon. Kirkfield Park PC LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMONT, Dougald St. Boniface Lib. LAMOUREUX, Cindy Tyndall Park Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas-Kameesak NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Malaya Notre Dame NDP MARTIN, Shannon McPhillips PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice, Hon.

Seine River PC MOSES, Jamie St. Vital NDP NAYLOR, Lisa Wolseley NDP NESBITT, Greg, Hon. Riding Mountain PC PEDERSEN, Blaine Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle, Hon. Turtle Mountain PC REDHEAD, Eric Thompson NDP REYES, Jon, Hon. Waverley PC SALA, Adrien St. James NDP SANDHU, Mintu The Maples NDP SCHULER, Ron Springfield-Ritchot PC SMITH, Andrew, Hon. Lagimodière PC SMITH, Bernadette Point Douglas NDP SMOOK, Dennis La Vérendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC TEITSMA, James, Hon. Radisson PC WASYLIW, Mark Fort Garry NDP WHARTON, Jeff, Hon.

Red River North PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC Vacant Morden-Winkler

2683 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Monday, May 29, 2023 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here before Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom and know it with certainty and accomplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen.

We acknowledge we are gathered on Treaty 1 territory and that Manitoba is located on the treaty territories and ancestral lands of the Anishinaabeg, Anishininewuk, Dakota Oyate, Denesuline and Nehethowuk nations. We acknowledge Manitoba is located on the Homeland of the Red River Métis. We acknowledge northern Manitoba includes lands that were and are the ancestral lands of the Inuit. We respect the spirit and intent of treaties and treaty making and remain committed to w orking in partnership with First Nations, Inuit and Métis people in the spirit of truth, reconciliation and collaboration.

Good afternoon, everybody. Please be seated. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Bill 246–The Public Health Amendment Act Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the MLA for Tyndall Park, that Bill 246, The Public Health Amendment Act; la Loi modifiant la

Loi sur la santé publique, be now read a first time. Motion presented. Mr. Gerrard: Madam S peaker, one of the things which is fundamental to preventive health is to be able to plan ahead and to lay out your plans and to have them looked at. I was dismayed to find out that there wasn 't, in The Public Health Act, the ability for the public health officer–chief public health officer to plan. And so, this is now included in this amendment, and it would include provisions that the plan, once tabled once a year, will come to a legislative commit- tee so that it can be looked at and commented on by MLAs. Thank you.

Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Agreed? [Agreed] COMMITTEE REPORTS Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs Seventh Report Mr. Josh Guenter (Chairperson): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the seventh report of the Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs. Deputy Clerk (Mr. Rick Yarish): Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affairs– Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Madam Speaker: Dispense. Your Standing Committee on Legislative Affai rs presents the following as its Seventh Report.

Meetings Your Committee met on May 25, 2023 at 6:00 p.m. in Room 254 of the Legislative Building. Matters under Consideration • Bill (No. 40) – The Combative Sports Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les sports de combat • Bill (No. 43) – The Provincial Offences Amendment Act (2) / Loi n o 2 modifiant la

Loi sur les infractions provinciales Committee Membership • Hon. Mr. GOERTZEN • Mr. GUENTER • Hon. Mr. KHAN • Ms. LATHLIN • Mr. PEDERSEN • Mr. REDHEAD Your Committee elected Mr. GUENTER as the Chairperson. Your Committee elected Mr. PEDERSEN as the Vice - Chairperson.

2684 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 Non-Committee Members Speaking on Record • MLA FONTAINE Public Presentations Your Committee heard the following three presentations on Bill (No. 40) – The Combative Sports Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les sports de combat: John McDonald, Manitoba Combative Sports Commission Rick Lemoine, Manitoba Sport Martial Arts Association Giuseppe DeNatale, Canadian Fighting Center Bills Considered and Reported • Bill (No. 40) – The Combative Sports Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les sports de combat Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. • Bill (No. 43) – The Provincial Offences Amendment Act (2) / Loi n o 2 modifiant la

Loi sur les infractions provinciales Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. Mr. Guenter: I move, seconded by the honour able member for Midland (Mr. Pedersen), that the report of the committee be received. Motion agreed to. Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development Sixth Report Mr. Shannon Martin (Chairperson): I wish to present the sixth report of the Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development. Deputy Clerk: Your Standing Committee on Social– Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Madam Speaker: Dispense.

Your Standing Committee on Social and Economic Development presents the following as its Sixth Report. Meetings Your Committee met on May 25, 2023 at 6:00 p.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building. Matters under Consideration • Bill (No. 218) –

An Act Respecting the Title "Associate Judge" (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la désignation de juge puîné (modification de diverses lois) • Bill (No. 222) – The Public Schools Amendment Act (Nutrition Programs) / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les écoles publiques (programmes d'alimentation) • Bill (No. 230) – The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les élections municipales et scolaires • Bill (No. 237) – The Advanced Education Administration Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur l 'administration de l 'enseignement postsecondaire • Bill (No. 238) – The Personal Care Home Accountability Act (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la responsabilisation des foyers de soins personnels (modification de diverses lois) Committee Membership • Mr. A LTOMARE • MLA FONTAINE • Mr. ISLEIFSON • Mr. MARTIN • Mr. MICKLEFIELD • Mr. SCHULER Your Committee elected Mr. MARTIN as the Chairperson. Your Committee elected Mr. SCHULER as the Vice - Chairperson. Substitution received during committee proceedings: • Hon. Mr. GOERTZEN for Mr. ISLEIFSON • Mr. ISLEIFSON for Hon. Mr. GOERTZEN • Hon. Mr. JOHNSTON for Mr. ISLEIFSON Non-Committee Members Speaking on Record • Hon. Mr. GERRARD • Ms. LAMOUREUX • Mr. MOSES

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2685 Public Presentations Your Committee heard the following two pre - sentations on Bill (No. 237) – The Advanced Education Administration Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur l 'administration de l 'enseigne- ment postsecondaire: Nicholas Greco, Providence University College and Theological Seminary Kenton Anderson, Private Citizen Your Committee heard the following three presentations on Bill (No. 238) – The Personal Care Home Accountability Act (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la responsabilisation des foyers de soins personnels (modification de diverses lois): Rhonda Nichol, Private citizen Sheryl King, Private citizen Patricia Rawsthorne, Private citizen Written Submissions Your Committee rec eived the following written submission on Bill (No. 222) – The Public Schools Amendment Act (Nutrition Programs) / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les écoles publiques (programmes d'alimentation): Sandy Nemeth, Manitoba School Boards Association Your Committee received the following two written submissions on Bill (No. 230) – The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les élections municipales et scolaires: Sandy Nemeth, Manitoba School Boards Association Denys Volkov, Association of Manitoba Munici - palities Your Committee received the following written submission on Bill (No. 238) – The Personal Care Home Accountability Act (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la responsabilisation des foyers de soins personnels (modification de diverses lois): Diana Rasmussed, Family Advisory Council from Oakview Place Bills Considered and Reported • Bill (No. 218) –

An Act Resp ecting the Title "Associate Judge" (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la désignation de juge puîné (modification de diverses lois) Your Committee agreed to report this Bill with the following amendment: THAT Clause 67 of the Bill be replaced with the following: Coming into force 67 This Act comes into force 120 days after the day it receives royal assent. • Bill (No. 222) – The Public Schools Amendment Act (Nutrition Programs) / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les écoles publiques (programmes d 'alimen- tation) Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. • Bill (No. 230) – The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les élections municipales et scolaires Your Committee agreed to report this Bill without amendment. • Bill (No. 237) – The Advanced Education Administration Amendment Act / Loi modifiant la

Loi sur l 'administration de l' enseignement postsecondaire Your Committee agreed to report this Bill with the following amendment. THAT Clause 4 of the Bill be replaced with the following: Coming into force 4 This Act comes into force on a day to be fixed by proclamation. • Bill (No. 238) – The Personal Care Home Accountability Act (Various Acts Amended) /

Loi sur la responsabilisation des foyers de soins personnels (modification de diverses lois) Your Committee agreed to report this Bill with the following amendments. Your committee voted to defeat Clause 4 of the Bill. Your committee voted to defeat Clause 5 of the Bill.

2686 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 THAT the following be added after

Part 3 of the Bill:

PART 3.1 CONDITIONAL AMENDMENTS Conditional amendments 7.1 If Bill 23, introduced in the Fifth Session of the 42nd Legislature and titled The Vulnerable Persons Living with a Mental Disability Amendment Act, receives royal assent, (

a) the heading for

Part 3 is replaced with "THE ADULTS LIVING WITH AN INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY ACT"; (

b) section 6 is replaced with the following: C.C.S.M. c. A6.1 amended 6 The Adults Living with an Intellectual Disability Act is amended by this Part. (

c) section 7 is amended insofar as it enacts subsection 25.4(1), by striking out "a vulnerable person" and substituting " an adult living with an intellectual disability". THAT Clause 8 of the Bill be replaced with the following: Coming into force 8 This Act comes into force on a day to be fixed by proclamation. Mr. Martin: I move, seconded by the honour able member for Kildonan-River East (Mrs. Cox), that the report of the committee be received. Motion agreed to. Madam Speaker: Tabling of reports?

Introduction of Guests Madam Speaker: And I'm going to just jump ahead with introduction of guests, because I'm not sure how long the students are going to be in the gallery. So, I would like to introduce to you, seated in the public gallery from Woodlawn School, 69 grade 3 to 4 students, under the direction of Simmy Gandhi. And this group is located in the constituency of the honour- able member for Steinbach (Mr. Goertzen). On behalf of all of us here, we welcome you to the Manitoba Legislature.

MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS Madam Speaker: The honourable Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage, and I would indicate that the required 90 minutes' notice prior to routine proceed - ings was provided in accordance with rule 27(2). Would the honour able minister please proceed with his statement. Winnipeg Sea Bears Hon.

Obby Khan (Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage): I would like to start today by the oppor - tunity to welcome and con gratulate our very own Winnipeg Sea Bears as they played their inaugural game-day opener on Saturday, May 27th, at Canada Life Centre to a sold-out crowd–over 7,200 people in attendance, which is the largest crowd in Canadian Elite Basketball League history ever. And the Sea Bears won a nail-biter victory against the Vancouver Bandits, 90-85.

Manitobans are passionate about sports, and basketball is no exception, with the best fans in the CFL for the Blue Bombers and exciting Whit eout parties for the Winnipeg Jets, Madam Speaker, we welcome the Sea Bears to Winnipeg. As basketball is the second fastest growing sport in the world, bringing a professional team to Manitoba will strengthen the sport in this province and provide the p otential for homegrown tenant –talent, just like Simon Hildebrandt and Chad Posthumus, and many more to come.

It will also provide an opportunity for community engagement with local basketball clubs to further promote the sport and develop interest amongs t our youth, building skills like teamwork, communication, commitment, leadership and so much more. Madam Speaker, as you and all Manitobans are aware, our government is so supportive of arts, culture and sports organizations. So much so that our government created the ACSC fund by investing over $100 million over two years directly into these sectors. Our government is also proud to support the Winnipeg Sea Bears with funding of $450,000 over three years.

Investments like this help raise the profile of amateur sports, just like basketball. But that 's not the only benefit. Hosting a professional basketball team in Winnipeg not only provides quality family entertainment and boosts community engagement, it will also result in a massive economic benefit for our downtown restaurants, bars, hotels and so much more.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2687 This past weekend, downtown was filled with Manitobans enjoying free pre -game festivals, eating at local restaurants and shopping locally, just like I was when I bought this beautiful Winnipeg Sea Bears sweatshirt at a local business, Far From Ordinary. Madam Speaker, due to investments like this, the Sea Bears, the ACSC, downtown Winnipeg is coming back bigger and better than ever. Everyone in Canada knows Winnipeg has the best fans.

Now they 're going to know that the Winnipeg Sea Bears also have the best fans. * (13:40) I want to congratulate the Sea Bears organization, the players, the fans, for an amazing inaugural game. I can't wait to get out and watch the second game. Thank you, Madam Speaker. MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): Madam Speaker, on Saturday, I had the pleasure of cheering on the Winnipeg Sea Bears at their inaugural home game, as they claimed their first win over the Vancouver Bandits and broke the league attendance record with over 7,000 fans in attendance.

The Sea Bears, which are the 10th team in the Canadian Elite Basketball League, were first announced last November, and since then Winnipeggers have been eagerly anticipating the start of their season this spring. The Sea Bears spent a week at training camp prior to Saturday's game, and it was pretty clear that all their hard work paid off. Several members of our NDP team, staff and our families were at the sold-out game on Saturday, and it was such an exciting event to be a part of. I want to give a special shout -out to Chad Posthumus.

He's a local basketball star from Winnipeg who also scored the game -winning basket. It was awesome to see that, Madam Speaker. I'm thrilled that the Sea Bears get to call Union Station their home, adding to the downtown Winnipeg entertainment scene this summer and well into the future. Winnipeggers are proud of our sports teams, and the Winnipeg Sea Bears are going to be a wonderful addition to basketball culture here in Winnipeg. Madam Speaker, basketball is a unifying sport enjoyed by people from all walks of life. Thanks to the Sea Bears, Winnipeggers can cheer on our very own team this season.

On behalf of our entire NDP team, I want to congratulate the Winnipeg Sea Bears on their amazing win and wish them all the best this season. Go, Sea Bears, go. Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Madam Speaker, I ask for leave to respond to the minister 's statement. Madam Speaker: Does the member have leave to respond to the ministerial statement? [Agreed] Leave has been granted. Ms. Lamoureux: I rise this afternoon to recognize and congratulate the Winnipeg Sea Bears on their highly anticipated home opener.

The Sea Bears won their inaugural game this past Saturday against the Vancouver Bandits in front of a sold-out crowd at the Canada Life Centre. The Winnipeg Sea Bears are the newest Canadian Elite Basketball team in the country, and it 's evident by the sold-out game that there is much excitement for our hometown team, and something that many basketball fans across the province have been eagerly awaiting for some time. And what's great about this is it only marks the beginning. This team's journey, and therefore Manitobans, can expect many more victories and memorable moments for many seasons to come.

Madam Speaker, we should recognize those who have played an important role in bringing this brand- new franchise to life, including coaches, players and all the families. There is so much excitement for basketball fans and it makes me feel very proud to call Manitoba home. Thank you, Madam Speaker. MEMBERS' STATEMENTS MLA for Midland-Acknowledgements Mr. Blaine Pedersen (Midland): One week ago, May 22nd, was exactly 16 years since I was first elected as the MLA for Carman constituency.

Prior to the general election of 2007, I was in a two -year nomination contest, taking on a 20- year incumbent MLA, which I won with a 3-1 margin. I've been in four general elections with a total of 160 polling stations in those four elections. I have won all but 11 of those polling stations. My average polarity is–was 72 per cent–not quite as good as the member from Steinbach, but not a bad average. There are only nine members remaining who continue to serve from 2007.

2688 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 During my 16 -year tenu re, Carman -Midland constituents have dug deep in their wallets to support the PC party with over a half a million dollars in personal donations. Thank you to each and every one of them. I learned early on that personal, face- to-face conversations with constituents was essential. First in Carman constituency, and then in Midland constitu- ency, their voices and opinions matter. I've worked hard to bring their voice to this Chamber. It is a steep learning curve to work as an MLA.

I have very much enjoyed the work, both in opposition and then as a Cabinet minister in three different departments. Everyone, from my caucus colleagues, caucus staff, the civil service, our security detail, and including the cleaning staff, have made my legislative career a memorab le experience. I look forward to spending time with family and the outdoors, away from the endless droning on of debates. Lastly, but most importantly, I thank my wife Dianne and our family for their help and support in what can be a difficult position for them to be in. My success is due to them. Thank you.

Rainbow Resource Centre MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): Madam Speaker, the Rainbow Resource Centre in Winnipeg is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year, marking half a century dedi cated–of dedicated service to the 2SLGBTQIA+ community in Manitoba. Established in 1973, the centre has been a safe haven for the queer community, providing essential support for those who have otherwise been marginalized and isolated. Over the past five decades, Rainbow Resource Centre has gro wn to meet the needs of an ever - evolving community.

Their amazing current program- ming and services include free short-term counselling, youth-specific programs, the over the 50–Over the Rainbow 55-plus program as of–as well as a plethora of diverse, volunteer-run social support groups. The centre has always strived to be a welcoming and affirming place for people of all genders, sexual orientations and identities, and it has been instru- mental in advancing the basic h uman rights of 2SLGBTQ+ folks and visibility of those communities in Manitoba.

Their ongoing efforts to make the centre more inclusive and to meet the needs of our evolving community are reflected in historic achievements. Just this past year, the Rainbow Resource Centre has begun the development of an affordable housing for 2SLGBTQIA+ seniors. The first of its kind in Canada, this 21-unit housing project is the product of a three-way partnership between RRC, Westminister [phonetic] Housing Society and the West Broadway Community Organization.

Just this month they moved into Union Station–I'm very excited about that–to the historic Wilson House at 545 Broadway, right beside the new development of the site. As the Rainbow Resource Centre marks this milestone anniversary, it's important to celebrate the incredible impact they've had and continue to have on all of our communities. The centre 's legacy is a testament to the power of activism, community care and the vital importance of creating spaces where marginalized and targeted voices can be heard and uplifted.

By providing essential services, education, advocacy and now affordable housing, RRC will continue to empower Manitoba 's 2SLGBTQIA+ communities to live their lives to the fullest, while working towards a more inclusive and equitable society for all. Please join me in congratulating the Rainbow Resource Centre on this momentous occasion as we have the executive director, Noreen Mian, and guests from RRC joining us today. Here's to another 50 years of transformative work.

Noreen Mian, Joey Moore, Ashley Smith, Evan Maydaniuk, Aaron Klein, Dayna Price, Alba Lopez Gomez, Jennie MacMillan Gomez Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Union Station. MLA Asagwara: Madam Speaker, I'd like to ask for leave to have the names of the guests who are joining the Rainbow Resource Centre in–admitted to Hansard. Madam Speaker: Those names will be admitted to Hansard. Dauphin Community Improvement Projects Mr. Brad Michaleski (Dauphin): I'm extremely pleased with the recent investments that our Manitoba government has announced for many communities within my constituency of Dauphin.

Through the Building Sustainable Communities program, invest - ments in communities enable them to thrive and continue to offer a high quality of life in our beautiful region.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2689 Some of these investments include the Alonsa and District Recreation Co -op improvements to their rec centre; in Dauphin, the Watson Art Centre, the Dauphin & District Snowmobile Club, Dauphin & District Handivan, Dauphin Countryfest, Dauphin Neighbourhood Renewal Corporation community resource centre, the Dauphin recreational ice plant and last but not least, the Maamawi Park phase 2; in Gilbert Plains, upgrades to the community country club golf course and the Gilbert Plains recreational complex.

Other investments include, in the region, Grandvees [phonetic] Kinsmen Club, Wilson Park and senior drop- in centre; the Mallard Community Hall improvements in Waterhen; the McCreary Golf and Country Club clubhouse and Municipality of McCreary rec facility upgrades; the Municipality of Lakeshore, Ochre River Hall im provements; the Municipality of Mossey River, Winnipegosis beach area renewal, arena and curling club upgrades; and in Manitoba's cattle capital, Ste.

Rose Recreation Com - mission's Turtle River Trail received phase 2 funding. * (13:50) Madam Speaker, it's always–has been my tremen- dous pleasure and honour to serve my constituency and to acknowledge these recipients and the very much deserving communities of the Dauphin 'constituey' who continue so much–or, who contribute so much to our great province of Manitoba. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Tanice Dandeneau Mr. Mark Wasyliw (Fort Garry): Small, locally run businesses are a key part of what mak es Manitoba economically and culturally vibrant.

Today, I am hon- oured to recognize one of these small business owners: Tanice Dandeneau, the owner of Chestnut Lane Boutique, a women 's clothing store here in Winnipeg. Tanice opened her first boutique in Stonewall before moving to her current location, Winnipeg, in 2003; 20 years later, her expertly curated boutique strives to be Winnipeg's top fashion provider. With designer clothing sourced from collections across North America, Tanice uses her experti se and extensive knowledge to help her clients build ward- robes to suit their style and needs. Her personalized styling services set her business apart.

By keeping track of her clients ' tastes and preferences, Tanice helps women find clothing that fits their lifestyle and look. And in the process, she has formal, close relationships with many of her clients. This personal service is a key component of what has made Chestnut Lane Boutique so successful. Tanice offers personal shopping appointments for her clients, where she assembles selections for them to choose from based on their style and preferences. She even sends clients pictures of items that might interest them.

In order to be able to offer such a wide range of styles and designers, Tanice attend s fashion shows across North America to hand -select pieces that will best suit her clients. Whether they are looking for high- end designer or contemporary, ready -to-wear clothing, Tanice always has something at Chestnut Lane Boutique for everyone. And she is always ready to welcome new clients in the relaxed and comfortable setting at the boutique. Tanice is here with us today. Please join me in credit–congratulating her for 20 years of providing amazing personal service and fashion expertise at Chestnut Lane Boutique.

Rossmere Community Improvement Projects Mr. Andrew Micklefield (Rossmere): Madam Speaker, I rise to thank the many Rossmere residents who have successfully partnered with my constituency office to obtain nearly 1 and a half million dollars to improve our area. Many of these people would consider themselves unremarkable, but I can attest first-hand that it is their remarkable care and dedication that have blessed our neighbourhoods and those who live in them with a variety of upgrade s, projects and community initia - tives.

Some 16 often small and unknown groups have benefited from Green Team and other grants for seniors programs, community kitchens, refugee chil - dren's summer clubs, youth sports, performing arts, shared neighbourhood gardens, kids ' camps and school playgrounds, to name but a few. Phoenix soccer now boasts some of Winnipeg 's best outdoor turf, and I was recently honored to attend a weekend -long, 52- team soccer tournament hosted on the club's multiple outdoor pitches.

Gateway recreational centre has also been a go-to sports and com munity hub for decades and recently received a grant for equipment needed for its indoor

2690 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 rinks to continue offering hockey and other ice sports to area kids, youth and families. Many other organizations have suc cessfully applied for funding for projects of many kinds, big and small. This is all part of our government 's commitment to grassroots community organizations. I am hon- oured to have helped so many good people accom - plish so many good things for our community, and I know that there are many more good things to come. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Introduction of Guests Madam Speaker: And as is our tradition when our pages are coming to the end of their term, I'm going to introduce to you Kai Jassal. In the months ahead, Kai Jassal will be leaving Manitoba, headed to the Atlantic to attend Dalhousie University. He 'll be pursuing a degree in political science with the hopes of becoming a journalist. As he writes: My friends, I want to thank you for the past nine months. This job has been a dream job for me. You' ve all been so nice, and I 've learned a whole lot about the legislative process. I wish you all the best of luck this fall.

And from all of us, Kai, all the best in your future endeavours. We wish you the very best. ORAL QUESTIONS Misericordia Sleep Disorder Centre Private Sector Involvement Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): Just a few months ago, doctors at the Misericordia sleep centre resigned from the Pr emier's task force because their proposals were being ignored. The Premier rejected their plan that they put forward that would have seen us invest in public health care here in Manitoba.

Now, by way of reject- ing those proposals, the Stefanson gov ernment said, and I quote: They are being rejected because, quote, minimal private sector involvement, end quote, was involved. That's wrong. Of course, that's putting politics ahead of patients. We think the Premier should be listening to doctors who work at the bedside and not searching for profits for private companies. Will the Premier tell the House if her government will stop rejecting proposals for sleep specialists at the Misericordia? Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): I first of all want to correct the records.

The Leader of the Op position continues to put false information on the record in this Chamber, Madam Speaker. That's unfortunate, but as long as he continues to put false information on, we'll correct the record. I want to also tha nk the Diagnostic and Surgical Recovery Task Force for the incredible work that they are doing.

They are looking at proposals all across the board to ensure that Manitobans get those surgical and diagnostic procedures when they need it, proposals both in the public and private sector to ensure that we are not putting ideology first, that we are putting patient care first, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question. Mr. Kinew: I just want to encourage the Premier to stop besmirching her own gov ernment.

It was the words of her own government, the Stefanson govern- ment, that I read there on the record, when they rejected the sleep docs proposals because of, quote, minimal private sector involvement. End quote. Now, we've seen that this Premier has now asked private sector companies to bid on this same work. I'll table the docu ments, which come from the RFQP. Really rolls off the tongue. Now, instead of listening to the sleep docs, the y are now going to the private sector to farm out the same work that these local Manitoba experts had solutions for that would have put people to work right here in our province.

They're choosing to cut. They're choosing to privatize. They're choosing to ignore those who work at the front lines. Will the Premier tell the House why her gov ern- ment is ignoring proposals to improve health care at the Misericordia sleep centre? Mrs. Stefanson: The accusations by the Leader of the Opposition are simply false, Madam Speaker. The diag nostic surgical recovery task force is doing incredible work ensuring that they're looking at all proposals that are brought forward, and we will continue to allow that to move forward.

What I will say is, the only people t hat are preventing Manitobans from wanting to get the health

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2691 care that they need would be the NDP. They would have denied almost–or over 36,000 Manitobans from getting health care just because those were contracted out in the private sector. We believe th at it was the right thing to do to make sure that those 36,000 individuals got the health care that they need when they need it. We will not put ideology before health care first. Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary. Mr.

Kinew: When it comes to preventing people from accessing health care, that's what the Premier has done, right back to her time serving under Brian Pallister, where she was the failed Health minister. Again, we're talking about some of the exact same patients. They cut the funding to the Misericordia Hospital. Hospital funding for Misericordia went down. They also cut public coverage for CPAP machines. CPAP machines used to be covered under the special drugs program; this government eliminated it entirely. And now what are they doing?

They're ignoring advice for improving public health care at the Mis. from the local experts –world-class experts, I would add–who've brought forward public solutions. Sounds like ideology trumping health care to me. Now today we see the final explanation why. They're asking private companies to now bid on this same work. * (14:00) How does the Premier explain cutting public health services only to turn around and privatize them with the same breath? Mrs. Stefanson: Madam Speaker, again, I don't even know where to begin with the litany of false accusations by the Leader of the Op position.

Once again, day in, day out, the Leader of the Op position, members opposite, get up in this Chamber and they put false information on the record. But we will continue to correct the record for Manitobans so that they know that we are not taking an ideological approach, Madam Speaker, when it comes to health care in our province. We are ensuring that Manitobans get the health care, surgical and diag- nostic procedures, and they get–when they need it.

Madam Speaker, that's why we opened it up to– for 36,000 Manitobans who are waiting in pain for surgical and diagnostic procedures–36,000 Manitobans where they were contracted out. Again, it was paid for by Manitoba Health. Under the NDP those 36,000 Manitobans would still be waiting in pain today. Shame on them. Madam Speaker: The honour able Leader of the Official Opposition, on a new question. Education Property Tax Credit Out-of-Province Corporate Rebates Mr. Wab Kinew (Leader of the Official Opposition): You know, another area where the Stefanson govern- ment–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr.

Kinew: –just like Brian Pallister, is taking money from the public purse and giving it away to the private sector is in education. For a long time we've called on this gov ernment to stop handing out cheques to out -of-province billionaires. When pressed on the matter we know that the Premier simply chooses to distract, deflect and ignore. But everybody in Manitoba hears about a $110,000 cheque for Walmart headquartered in the States, taken from money that should be going to help fund education in Manitoba, and Manitobans simply shake their heads.

Can the Premier explain why she thinks that $110,000 should not be spent supporting Manitoba's students and should, instead, be sent to the very wealthy family that owns the Denver Broncos? Hon. Heather Stefanson (Premier): Well, Madam Speaker, I appreciate any question from the Leader of the Opposition when it comes to the historic invest - ments that we are making in our education system in the province of Manitoba. Madam Speaker, more than a 6.1 per cent increase, over $100 million last year alo ne, a 22 –23 per cent increase since 2016. That's more money for education, not less.

So, when the Leader of the Opposition continues to stand in this House and put false information on the record–over $100 million more this year alone –why did he vote against it, Madam Speaker? Madam Speaker: The honour able Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question. Mr. Kinew: We voted against the budget because it's a confidence motion and we do not have confi dence in this government or this Premier.

2692 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 Madam Speaker, $110,000 would go a long way– [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –to help Manitoba school kids. When we're talking about local education, $110,000 means more educa tional assistants to help kids with those ad ditional needs. Madam Speaker, $110,000 could pay for 110,000 pieces of food to help feed young people who are going to school hungry right now, in com munities like Brandon East, where their member is heckling right now–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –instead of standing up for school chil - dren.

On this side of the House we'll always stand against the cheques for billionaires and stand up for Manitoba's school kids. [interjection] Madam Speaker: I am going to have to call the member for Brandon East (Mr. Isleifson) to order, please, so that we can properly hear what is being said on the floor. Mrs. Stefanson: Well, Madam Speaker, actions speak louder than words. The Leader of the Op position tries to deny, I guess, that he voted against the budget. Now he thinks maybe he should have voted in favour of the budget; I guess he's not sure.

But the fact of the matter is all members opposite voted against a budget that had historic investments in our education system in the province of Manitoba–a 6.1 per cent increase, Madam Speaker, over $100 million this year alone. And the members opposite–this is the facts for all Manitobans–the members opposite voted against that. Shame on them. Madam Speaker: The honourable Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary. Mr.

Kinew: We'll just continue on with the facts that we're dropping on this gov ernment here today and point out that Loblaws earned $426 million in profit in just the first three months of this year. Now, the Premier heard that and decided to send them a cheque for 327,000 more dollars. That's money that, of course, was taken from reve nues that should have been going to public schools here in the province.

Now, in those same first three months of the year, Walmart–which is the subject of the day here, and I'll invite the Premier to make specific reference to this company in her answer –they announced that they earned $141 billion in top-line revenue. That's just in the first three months of the year. The Premier decided to send this company $110,000. On this side of the House, we say that's wrong. These billionaires don't need it. They didn't ask for it. The PCs still keep sending them the cheques.

Will the Premier tell the House why she insists on giving them cor porate welfare instead of funding public schools in Manitoba? [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mrs. Stefanson: Madam Speaker, while the Leader of the Opposi tion wants to pick and choose winners and losers in our busi ness community, we will stand up for all businesses in our business community.

When it comes to the edu cation tax rebate, Madam Speaker, John Graham from the Retail Council of Canada said, and I quote: Arbitrarily deter- mining who receives a rebate on taxes they pay based on who owns a company or the size of their contribu- tions to Manitoba's economy not only undermines the importance of fairness and trust, it's simply bad tax policy. Tax rebates allow retailers to lower prices, create jobs and invest in their businesses. We stand by all busi nesses in Manitoba, not just some.

Hearing Loss Screening for Newborns Request for Support for Bill 226 MLA Uzoma Asagwara (Union Station): Madam Speaker, congenital cytomegalovirus, commonly known to most people as CMV, can cause hearing loss, vision loss and reduced motor skills in children. Fortunately, CMV can be treated if newborns are screened at the earliest opportunity, usually before 21 days of age. But Manitoba does not currently screen for CMV in newborns, and that's why I introduced Bill 226, to ensure that newborns can be screened for CMV and get the treatment they need as early as possible.

But this PC government so far has refused to support it. Will the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) do the right thing and commit to passing Bill 226 today? Hon. Audrey Gordon (Minister of Health): Madam Speaker, last week in the House, the member for St. Johns (MLA Fontaine) said: When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2693 So, we're going to remind Manitobans about yesterday's NDP and what they can expect from today's NDP, Madam Speaker. I want to table for the House an

article that clearly lays out the newer NDP members and how–for the newer NDP members how badly they ran Manitoba's health-care system. In the article, it says: Manitoba gets poor grade in Canadian health report. Manitoba ranks near the bottom of a report card on the state of Canada's health system. Madam Speaker, the Conference Board of Canada report, which looks at disease rates, obesity, infant mortality–because we're talking– Madam Speaker: The member's time has expired.

MLA Asagwara: Madam Speaker, when CMV is not caught early enough, it can have devastating conse - quences for infants, children and their families. That's why early screening newborns is really, really impor- tant. Advocates like Winnipeg father Rob Tetrault have been calling on this PC government for years to start screening for CMV, but this gov ernment hasn't been listening to Rob and many other families. * (14:10) Bill 226 would protect children by allowing for early screening, which can lead to faster treatment and better health outcomes for newborns.

Passing this bill into law is simply the right thing to do. Will the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) and the Health Minister make that commitment to Manitoba families today? Ms. Gordon: Madam Speaker, let's talk about the NDP's failing grade on infant mortality. The Conference Board of Canada report, that I tabled, looked at disease rates, obesity, inf ant mortality and other health indicators, and gave Manitoba NDPs a D grade, Madam Speaker. They showed us who they are, and today's NDP is exactly the same. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Union Station, on a final supplementary.

MLA Asagwara: Madam Speaker, this is a really im- portant issue across Canada, and especially here in Manitoba. CMV is the No. 1 non-genetic cause of hearing loss in children; one in 100 infants are infected with CMV, and of those infected, one in five will have a permanent dis ability. And yet, this PC government has failed to listen to advocates who've been calling for newborn screening. This is unacceptable, Madam Speaker. Manitoba families deserve an answer before legislation ends this week. They deserve an answer from this Premier and this Health Minister today.

The Premier has the power to improve outcomes for children regarding CMV by passing Bill 226. Will she commit to doing that today? Ms. Gordon: Madam Speaker, the member for Union Station has failed advocates of CMV, they have also failed this House in terms of making them aware of the process for bills to pass through the Legislature. Madam Speaker, last week, I committed to sitting down with the member for Union Station to discuss the bill. Even after emailing and offering to meet with the member, what did they do? They didn't show up. Madam Speaker: The honour able member for Transcona.

Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Madam Speaker: Order. Order. Order. Order. [interjection] I'm going to have to call the member for St. Johns (MLA Fontaine) and the Minister of Health to order. New School Construction Use of Public-Private Model Mr. Nello Altomare (Transcona): Example after example across Canada has shown that the P3 model has failed kids, fam ilies and com munities. Even former-premier Brian Pallister had to agree. That's why they abandoned the P3 model back in 2018. But now, the PCs have flip -flopped without any justification or explanation as to why they're using a P3 process.

Schools using the P3 model cost taxpayers more, and have a host of other problems. It's well documented throughout the country. We can read the reports; they are right there. So, can the Premier, Madam Speaker, explain why she's committed to using a P3 process, despi te knowing they'll cost taxpayers more money? Hon. James Teitsma (Minister of Consumer Protection and Government Services): Madam Speaker, I'm truly puzzled by the member opposite. You know, I've been out door knocking, talking to constituents, and when I remind them that we're building schools, not just the 20 schools that we

2694 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 committed to in the last election, but three ad ditional schools, bringing it to a total of 23, that that's what we're doing, they're excited. When they find out that we're building a beautiful school right in River East Transcona, they're excited. When they find out about all the amazing renovation work that we're doing to build schools in our area and across this province, they're excited. Why does the member not want new schools to be built in this province? Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Transcona, on a supplementary question. Mr.

Altomare: The PCs can't be trusted when it comes to public education. When this very minister was asked who would own the buildings after the construction, he couldn't even provide an answer for that. They–Madam Speaker, they said they will work the details out later. Can you imagine that right now? Work the details out. And trust this gov ernment to work the details out later. But now they're committed to using this P3 process yet again, without justification. Can the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) finally explain why she is committed to using a debunked P3 process, when they know it'll cost taxpayers more? Mr.

Teitsma: Madam Speaker, it beggars belief what this member of Transcona will put on the record here. He knows full well that I am on the record as saying–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Teitsma: –that these schools will be owned by the public; they will be publicly owned schools. They will be operated by the school divisions, much like every other school in existence. What they will not be is neglected, like the schools that were under the previous NDP gov ern- ment, where hundreds of millions –if not billions –of dollars of necessary maintenance was left undone by the previous administration.

Shame on them. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Transcona, on a final supplementary. Mr. Altomare: Imagine–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Altomare: –imagine in 2018, contracting out KPMG to file a report that says the P3 process is flawed. And you talk about wasting money; this member needs to apologize to every member in this Chamber right now for making that statement. Even Brian Pallister, Madam Speaker, couldn't deny that P3s were a bad process. But now this Premier is recycling that old idea yet again. Can the Premier provide a logical–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr.

Altomare: –coherent explanation for using the P3 process? Mr. Teitsma: Madam Speaker, it's just this simple: we are committed to building schools. We said we'd build 20, but we're going to build 23. We said we'd build them by 2029; well, we're going to get them built by 2027. Two years ahead of schedule, three ad ditional school s: that is getting results.

When I talk to people at the door in Transcona and in Radisson, and I tell them that the member opposite–the member for Transcona –is against the plan to build nine new schools, they react with dismay, with disgust and with dis belief that they would–they react that way because this member disregards the opinions of trustees, of parents and of students. Madam Speaker: The member's time has expired. Judicial Appointment of Former Cabinet Minister Concerns Over Residential School Position Mr.

Eric Redhead (Thompson): The PC gov ern- ment recently appointed former PC Cabinet minister Jim McCrae as a civil member to a com mittee that selects people to work as judicial officers in our court system. And for the past six years, he was appointed chair of the Social Services Appeal Board. That's chilling, because at the same time, he was writing hurtful articles with titles like Another Fraudulent Indigenous List?, in which he tries to argue that the number of deaths of children in residential schools is exaggerated. I'll table the article, Madam Speaker. Can the Premier (Mrs.

Stefanson) explain why she is appointing residential school deniers to impor- tant government positions?

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2695 Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): This gov ernment has a strong record when it comes to recon ciliation, Madam Speaker. Just in the next day or so, we'll be debating a prov- incial offences bill that has been long advocated for by MKO, the –never done under a previous gov ern- ment. When it comes to the individual, clearly we do not support the views that he has expressed, Madam Speaker, and they don't represent government. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Thompson, on a supplementary question. Mr.

Redhead: Residential school deniers like former Tory Cabinet minister Jim McCrae should have no place in Manitoba government. Yet the PCs have appointed him to multiple im- portant boards and com mittees. This, while he's writing articles attacking the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, with titles like Seeking the Truth About Residential Schools. I'll table the document. This is from last August, Madam Speaker. It's hard to believe the PCs don't know about McCrae's writings. Will this Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) tell the House if anyone bothered to read McCree's [phonetic] writings before his appointment? Mr.

Goertzen: I've already outlined some of the record when it comes to this gov ernment and our strong commit ment to recon ciliation. I've already indicated to the member that this government does not support the views of Mr. McCrae. * (14:20) Madam Speaker, I've indicated that we're taking steps even in this session when it comes to recon- ciliation, and we took action. When the former gov - ernment had accusations come to their caucus, they said nothing and they slipped it under the carpet. We've actually taken action when concerns come forward.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Thompson, on a final supplementary. Mr. Redhead: Jim Mc Crae's history of resi dential school denial is well documented. In fact, he's published multiple articles on the subject, including two just in the last six months. These articles downplay the terrible history of resi - dential schools, and claim the number of people who died at resi dential schools is inflated; and also questions the truth behind the stories of survivors. Despite these racist writings, the PCs have appointed him to multiple important boards.

Will the Premier apologize for his appointment to the House and to Manitobans today? Mr. Goertzen: Clearly the member indicates that he has known about these writings for a long time and known about the boards that the member –that Mr. McCrae served on, and yet he didn't raise these issues before, Madam Speaker. We've indicated that we do not support the views of Mr. McCrae. We indicated that they are not repre- sentative of government, and absolutely, I apologize personally for the harm and the hurt that they have caused.

Construction Industry Apprentices Wage Reduction Concerns MLA Malaya Marcelino (Notre Dame): Madam Speaker, while Manitobans are facing a crushing cost of living crisis, this gov ernment wants to cut the wages of apprentices. Apprentice wages are tied to minimum wage, a nd apprentices were expecting an increase this fall. But this PC gov ernment suddenly launched a review blindsiding apprentices with the possibility of cuts. If wages aren't competitive, workers are going to leave the province to be paid fairly somewhere else.

Will the minister confirm whether or not these workers can expect a wage increase this fall? Hon. James Teitsma (Minister of Consumer Protection and Government Services): I can assure the member opposite that certainly the recent increases and the planned increases to minimum wage will be respected. But speaking of affordability, I can tell you that it's the NDP who will always be counted on to raise your taxes. They won't tell you they will, but they certainly will get it done. They said they would not raise the PST. They raised the PST.

They went after countless other small tax increases here, there and everywhere. They tripled our provincial debt. They made billions of dollars of promises with no plan to pay for it. That hurts affordability for all Manitobans.

2696 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Notre Dame, on a supplementary question. MLA Marcelino: Madam Speaker, the cost of gro - ceries keeps going up. Manitoba has the highest food inflation rates amongst all the provinces. But this Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) doesn't care about the workers, families and apprentices who build our province. This PC government has cut apprenticeship fund- ing by 43 per cent since 2016, and they weakened safety pro tections by cutting ap prenticeship ratios.

Young people want to plan for the future and grow their careers here in Manitoba, but the PC government cuts are chasing them away. Will the minister stop cutting apprentice wages today? Mr. Teitsma: Madam Speaker, I can assure the mem- bers opposite that we very much value apprentices and all trades people in our province, and we want to encourage more people to get into the trades, and more people to find ways to make good income here in the trades in Manitoba, helping to grow our economy. Because growing our economy is what helps fund government programs.

That's what pays for the huge increase to –or to health -care funding in this year's budget; that's what pays for the huge increase to edu- cation funding. Economic growth is the principal pinnacle of Manitoba's success. It's why we've had success so far, it's why we're going to continue to have success. And in order to continue to do that, we need to have a PC government in power, not just today but for four years and beyond. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Notre Dame, on a final supplementary. MLA Marcelino: Well, the PC caucus–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order.

MLA Marcelino: Well, the PC caucus sure does have a funny way of showing their appreciation to appren- tices. They've refused to say whether or not they're going to be cutting apprenticeship wages this fall. This Premier and her whole PC caucus are very much out of touch with regular Manitobans. Appren- tice wages are tied to the minimum wage, but this gov- ernment launched a review to consider cuts at a time when Manitobans can least afford it. We also have a skilled labour shortage, but the PC government is actively discouraging workers from staying here in Manitoba.

On this side of the House, we think that tha t's the wrong approach. Workers deserve an answer. Will this minister change course and stop the cuts to apprenticeship wages today? Mr. Teitsma: I can ap preciate the member opposite doesn't understand working with a caucus that says they're going to do something and then actually does it. But that's what we have on this side of the House. We said we would lower the PST; we lowered the PST. We said we would reduce income taxes; we've reduced income taxes with a huge increase to the basic personal exemption and all other tax brackets coming January.

We said we would–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Teitsma: –increase education property tax rebates. Started at zero few years back; now they're all the way up to 50 per cent. Everybody in Winnipeg, every home- owner in Winnipeg, is going to get a cheque some time in the month of June if all goes according to plan with Canada Post. And that is keeping our promises. That is getting things done. We have saved over $5,000 for the aver- age family in Manitoba. That's a government that gets things done. Rural Paramedic Services Paramedic Retention and Wages Mr. Dougald Lamont (St.

Boniface): We've been getting warnings about issues for –with rural para - medics in Manitoba for years. The plan to train advanced paramedics was prom- ised five years ago. It never materialized because this government didn't actually create the positions, and paramedics have not received a raise since then. We know rural paramedics are leaving for other provinces where they're appreciated, and we've been hearing for months that they're burning out and are short-staffed. Now, we're heading into summer when cottage communities are going to explode in size.

There are communities whose winter population might be a few hundred and go up to thousands over a weekend.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2697 This gov ernment refused to even start negoti - ations for years. Why have critically im portant rural front -line health workers been shut out of five years of raises by this government? Hon. James Teitsma (Minister of Consumer Protection and Government Services): I thank the member opposite for the question. And I think he knows full well that government is not the employer here in this particular situation.

But we certainly are hopeful that the negotiations that do continue between the employer and the union will come to a conclusion and that hopefully will happen soon. Now, what I will say is that every health -care collective agreement that's been arrived at under this government–and there have been many –every single one of them included a retroactive pay; every single one of them included compounding increases. There's no reason to expect that that would not be the case here, and certainly what the message to rural paramedics should be.

And I can say, again, as I said last week, we very much value the work of those health-care heroes. We love our paramedics across this province, rural and urban. Thank you. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for St. Boniface, on a supplementary question. Mr. Lamont: It's not love they need, Madam Speaker, it's a raise. Rural paramedics told us they make $10 less an hour than in Winnipeg, and they're understaffed and people are leaving the province because the other provinces are offering better pay.

City paramedics also have challenges, but rural paramedics have special ones because it's not just a 10- or 15- or 20-minute trip to the hospital; it could be an hour, 90 minutes or more, keeping people alive. They've been waiting for contracts and a raise and opportunities for advancement for five and six years. This government has delivered nothing for them. It is clear that front-line rural health professionals are not a priority for this government. Why not? Mr.

Teitsma: I'm a little bit saddened that the Liberals seem to have taken a page out of the NDP handbook here and continue to bring up this matter at this table when, really, the conversations need to be happening at the negotiating table. That's the way union negoti - ations should be working between the employer and the union. We certainly wouldn't hope–or I would hope that the leader of the Liberal Party is not attempting to destabilize bargaining by interfering or suggesting that we should interfere in any way. Madam Spe aker: The honourable member for Tyndall Park, on a final supplementary.

Financial Literacy Pilot Project for Schools Partnership with BC-Based Company Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Tyndall Park): Financial literacy is such a wonderful tool that all Manitobans should have access to, and that is why we're concerned with this government's plan to implement a pilot pro- ject to improve money management is–in Manitoba is being formed with a busi ness based in North Vancouver. * (14:30) It's extremely ironic to be discussing financial literacy and to have a government claim that they want to invest in our province, yet then choose to outsource outside of the province to a private company.

Will this government bring business to Manitoba, reconsider this part nership, perhaps even with the Credit Counselling Society, a local charity, for the pilot project? Hon. Wayne Ewasko (Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning): I'd like to thank my colleague from the Liberal Party for the question. Very im portant question on financial literacy, Madam Speaker; 17 years of the dark days under the NDP, they never thought once to maybe, you know, bring in a program to help teach our students about financial literacy. This is a pilot project.

We are partnering w ith Enriched Academy, who has a proven tracked record on delivering this program. It's a tool. It's a tool in the toolbox for teachers, so that they can supplement their curriculum that they're doing on financial literacy, Madam Speaker. I think it's a great step forward, something that the K-to-12 commission on education called for. We're acting. As one of my other colleagues said, we're doing what we're saying that we're doing, unlike

2698 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 the NDP, which is built on a campaign of fear, anger and envy, Madam Speaker. Newcomer Settlement Organizations Funding Announcement Mr. Ian Wishart (Portage la Prairie): Immigration to Manitoba is a key priority of our gov ernment, and newcomer settlement organizations play a vital role in providing a range of programs and services for these newcomers.

Can the Minister of Labour and Immigration enlighten us as to what our gov ernment is doing to financially support newcomer organizations, working with new immigrants to build the social and economic fabric of our province? Hon. Jon Reyes (Minister of Labour and Immigration): Madam Speaker, I was pleased to announce $4 million in funding to 24 new comer settlement organizations to help newcomers settle and integrate into all com munities throughout Manitoba, the home of hope.

A total of $7.1 million was provided this fiscal year: $3 million to Manitoba Start; $120,000 to SEED Winnipeg; and the $4 million in funding will help newcomer groups offer programs and services such as language training, em ployment and job search and community-based initiatives. Our gov ernment supports the social and eco- nomic integration of newcomers to Manitoba, and this funding will go a long way. Madam Speaker, not surprisingly, today's NDP and even the Liberals v ote against new comer settle- ment support funding in this year's budget. Shame on them.

Under a PC government, Manitoba will always be the home of hope for newcomers; our action, Madam Speaker. Thank you. [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Quagga Mussels in Lake Winnipeg Request for Spread Prevention Plan Mr. Ian Bushie (Keewatinook): Indigenous commu- nities, Manitoba fishers, conservationists and local residents are worried about the potential impacts of quagga mussels on Lake Winnipeg. Much like zebra mussels, quagga mussels are an invasive species that clog up fishing boats, nets and ropes.

Quagga mussels have often–are –have already overtaken zebra mussels as the most invasive species in the Great Lakes. It's likely the same will happen in Manitoba without early intervention. What will the PC gov ernment do to prevent quagga mussels from damaging Manitoba's eco- systems? Hon. Greg Nesbitt (Minister of Natural Resources and Northern Development): Our gov ernment certainly takes the i ssue of aquatic invasive species seriously. That's why we've–we're leading the fight against AIS here in the province. We have established requirements for all surface water users to prevent the spread.

Moreover, we have implemented measures to address the threat, such as funding for educa tion, increased signage on highways and major roadways leading to lakes and investing in more watercraft inspection stations at strategic locations this year. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Keewatinook, on a supplementary question. Mr. Bushie: Commercial fishers are warning this government about the potentially devastating impact of quagga mussels in Manitoba lakes.

Robert Kristjanson, a generational fisher, who earned the Order of Manitoba in 2018 for r aising awareness of algae blooms, says he's concerned the PC government is not doing enough to stop quagga mussels from hitching a ride and invading and devastating our lakes. This PC gov ernment's most recent update on aquatic invasive species did not even mention quagga mussels. Will the minister commit to taking early action to prevent the spread of quagga mussels here in Manitoba? Mr. Nesbitt: It was the NDP's inaction on aquatic invasive species that has had significant consequences for our environment and our economy.

Unlike the members opposite, combatting AIS is a priority for this government, which is why we are in the process of creating a committee consisting of experts from a variety of fields to develop effective prevention and control strategies moving forward. Where they failed, we're going to address the problem. Madam Speaker: The time for oral questions has expired.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2699 Speaker's Ruling Madam Speaker: And I have a ruling for the House. Following the prayer and land acknowledgement on April 26, 2023, the honour able member for Union Station (MLA Asagwara) raised a matter of privilege regarding comments made by the honour - able Minister for Edu cation and Early Child hood Learning. The member referenced the fact that during oral questions on April 25th, '23–2023, the minister stated that the Leader of the Official Op position (Mr.

Kinew), and I quote, "seems to stand in this House on a day -to-day basis pretending to be some kind of actor. He's no Adam Beach." End quote. The honourable member for Union Station con- tended that this was a disrespectful and demeaning remark, made with a racial connotation regarding the Leader of the Official Opposition. The member stated that language like this interferes with and prevents MLAs from doing their jobs, and as a result breaches their privileges as members of this House.

The member concluded their remarks by moving: "that the House call on the Minister of Edu cation to apologize imme diately, and to fully and uncon- ditionally retract his remarks." The honourable Minister of Education and Early Childhood Learning (Mr. Ewasko) spoke to the matter of privilege, offering a condi tional apology, while disputing the member's allegations. The honour able member for River Heights (Mr. Gerrard) also spoke to the matter before I took it under advisement.

As members know, there are two condi tions that must be satisfied in order for a matter raised to be ruled in order as a prima facie case of privilege: Was the issue raised at the earliest op portunity, and was sufficient evidence provided to support the member's claim that their privileges, or the privileges of the House, were breached? In their submission on this matter, the honourable member for Union Station indicated that this was their earliest opportunity to raise this matter in the House, and I accept the member's word on that point.

On the second condi tion, of whether the member provided sufficient evidence to support a prima facie case of privilege, there are several factors to consider. In raising this matter, the honourable member for Union Station shared some salient points about the importance of the privilege of free speech in this House, as well as the limitations of free speech.

I would expand on those points by referencing a pas - sage from page 92 of the third edition of House of Commons Procedure and Practice: "Freedom of speech permits Members to speak freely in the Chamber during a sitting or in com mittees during meetings while enjoying complete immunity from prosecution or civil liability for any comment they might make.

This freedom is essential for the effective working of the House." In ruling on a question of privilege in 1984, Speaker Bosley affirmed that, and I quote: The priv- ilege of a Member of Parliament when speaking in the House or in a committee is absolute, and that it would be very difficult to find that any statement made under the cloak of parlia mentary privilege constituted a violation of that privilege. End quote.

I am concerned about the comments made by the honourable Minister for Edu cation and Early Child - hood Learning, and I can understand how they caused offence and triggered concerns about racialization. However, I am also mindful of these comments from Speaker Bosley. In my opinion, the minister's com - ments were misguided and hurtful, but I do not believe they form the basis of a breach of privilege in this context, and I would therefore rule that a prima facie case of privilege was not established in this case. * (14:40) This is not to say at all that I condone the minister's comments.

You have all heard me state in this House that, as a group, we should be doing better, and, in my opinion, this was not an example of better behaviour. It is unfortunately ironic that, on the very day that matter was raised, I ruled on a previous matter of privilege where I affirmed the need for better and more respectful decorum between members. Echoing those sentiments, on pages 97 and 98 of the third edition of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, it is noticed that in 1987, Speaker Parent emphasized the need for members to use great care in exercising their right to speak freely in the House.

And he said, 'parament'–paramount to our political and parliamentary systems is the principle of freedom of speech, a member's right to stand in this House unhindered to speak his or her mind. However, when debate in the House centres on sensitive issues, at –as it often does, I would expect that members would always bear in mind the possible effects of their statements and hence be prudent in their tone and choice of words.

2700 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 I would urge the honourable Minister for Education and Early Childhood Learning, and all members, to bear these sentiments in mind when speaking in this place. Regarding the issue of comments made in this House that could be considered racist, I would again urge caution and counsel all members to be respectful in their remarks in debate. We should all be sensitive to the fact that our society's history is crowded with examples of racialized remarks and actions causing great pain and hardship to many, many people.

There is absolutely no need for any further such remarks being shared in this Chamber. Finally, I would like to address the comm ents made by the honourable Minister for Education and Early Childhood Learning when he was responding to the honourable member for Union Station (MLA Asagwara) stating this matter –raising this matter of privilege on April 26, 2023. Rather than apologizing unequivocally, the minister chose to dispute the matter and, in my opinion, he made the situation worse with more insensitive comments. In the future, I would encourage members to make such apologies unequivocally.

Thank you for your attention to this ruling. PETITIONS Construction Wages MLA Malaya Marcelino (Notre Dame): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. To the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba, these are the reasons for this petition:

(1) In 2022, after consult ation with industry members, the provincial government mandated the first construction industry minimum wage increase since 2017.

(2) Construction industry minimum wages for the majority of the industrial, commercial and the insti- tutional sector will increase by 14 per cent from 2022 to 2024.

(3) These wage increases were necessary to catch up with inflation from the lack of increases since 2017 and to maintain pace with inflation for the next three years. However, heat and frost insulators will only receive an 8.91 per cent increase from 2022 to 2024, despite insulators experiencing the same cost of living increases as other trades.

(5) This lower wage increase will make it more difficult to attract and retain skilled professionals to the heat and frost insulator trade, which will be to the detriment of the construction industry as a whole.

(6) The 8.91 per cent wage increases will mean that over 300 heat and frost insulators working in Manitoba will lose roughly $3,578 per year when compared to a 14 per cent increase.

(7) This lower wage increase is unfair and harms heat and frost insulators and the trade as a whole. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge the provincial government to modify the construction industry minimum wage

schedule to implement a 14 per cent increase to the heat and frost insulator trade to reflect a wage of $34.23 in 2024. This has been signed by Peter Nunoda, Lorraine Spence, Julie Deaffie and many Manitobans. Madam Speaker: In accordance with our rule 133(6), when petitions are read they are deemed to be received by the House. Catalytic Converter Engraving Credit Mr. Jim Maloway (Elmwood): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. The background to this petition is as follows:

(1) The spike in catalytic converter thefts occurring across North America has hit Winnipeg. The price of precious metals in catalytic converters, like rhodium, palladium and platinum, are worth thousands of dollars an ounce. Scrap metal recyclers have catalytic converters priced to the vehicle, with some catalytic converters worth $800.

(2) Organized groups of criminals are climbing under vehicles and cutting catalytic converters and selling them to scrap metal recyclers for cash, without any record of these transactions.

(3) Catalytic converter thefts cost consumers about $2,000 for each replacement. Manitoba Public Insurance charges a betterment fee for new replace- ments, so insurance doesn't cover the full cost.

(4) Catalytic converters do have–do not have any part number or vehicle identification number, VIN, and the inability to tie catalytic converter to a specific vehicle is a major enforcement issue. Mr. Dennis Smook, Acting Speaker, in the Chair

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(5) Engraving of a vehicle's VIN on its catalytic converter would be a major deterrent to theft by tying the vehicle of –to the part and making enforce ment possible. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge the prov incial gov ernment to bring in consumer protec tion legis lation directing Manitoba Public Insurance to initiate credits to Manitobans for engraving vehicle identification numbers on their catalytic converters. And this petition is signed by many, many Manitobans. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Are there any further petitions? Seeing as no petitions, grievances?

ORDERS OF THE DAY GOVERNMENT BUSINESS The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The honour- able Deputy Gov ernment House Leader, Minister of Agriculture. Hon. Derek Johnson (Acting Government House Leader): I have two leave requests. First, is there leave to call the following bills for concurrence and third reading today, despite the fact that these bills have either just been reported to the House today, or do not appear on today's Order Paper: 230, 231, 233, 235, 239, 229, 240, 242, 244, 218, 222, 227, 241, 238.

And also, is there leave to not see the clock today until the consideration of all the bills I just listed for concurrence and third reading, plus com mittee stage and concurrence and third reading of Bill 204 have been concluded. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Is there leave to call the following bills for concurrence and third reading today, despite the fact that these bills have either b een reported to the House today, or do not appear on today's Order Paper: 230, 231, 233, 235, 239, 229, 240, 242, 244, 218, 222, 227, 241, 238.

Is there leave? [Agreed] Is there leave to not see the clock today until the consideration of all of the bills I have just listed for concurrence and third reading, plus com mittee stage and concurrence and third reading of Bill 204 have been concluded. Is there leave? [Agreed] Mr. Johnson: Can we start with Committee of the Whole for Bill 204, please. And do I need to list the rest of the business of the day, or just start with that? We'll do it after. * (14:50) Thank you. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The House to resolve into Com mittee of the Whole to consider Bill 204. Mr.

Deputy Speaker, please take the Chair. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE Bill 204–The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment Act (Licence Plates for MMIWG2S Awareness) The Acting Chairperson (Josh Guenter): Will the Committee of the Whole please come to order. As announced, this committee will now consider the following: Bill 204, The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment Act (Licence Plates for MMIWG2S Awareness). Does the bill sponsor, the honourable member for Point Douglas, have an opening statement? Mrs. Bernadette Smith (Point Douglas): I do. The Acting Chairperson (Josh Guenter): The member for Point Douglas has the floor. Mrs.

Smith: This bill amends The Drivers and Vehicles Act, permits an organization to apply to the register of motor vehicles to make a licence plate available that includes the abbreviations MMIWG2S, meaning missing and murdered Indigenous women, girls and two-spirited people. The plate will also bear a graphic depiction of a red hand or a red dress, and the money collected from the licence plates may be directed to a–will be directed to a charity for the benefit of family members that have a loved one who has gone missing or been murdered, for education purposes.

Indigenous women and two-spirited and gender- diverse folks face extremely high levels of violence here in our province. This violence has caused signi - ficant, persistent and deliberate patterns of systemic racial engendered human rights and Indigenous rights violations and abuses, both in the past and continuing today.

2702 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 It's imperative that we, as a gov ernment here in Manitoba, raise awareness about this ongoing vio- lence and stand up to support the families and com - munities of MMIWG2S. Bill 204 will allow Manitobans to remember and commemorate the Indigenous women, girls, two - spirit and gender -diverse people who are missing or who have been murdered. We want to collectively recog nize the culmin - ation of a long and difficult journey in gaining justice for MMIWG2S families.

We must always ensure that MMIWG2S families' needs, requirements and vision be at the forefront of any activities and decisions that are made. Bill 204 is just one action that we can take to raise awareness around the violence Indigenous women, girls, two -spirited, gender -diverse folks continue to face in our province. To stop violence against Indigenous women and girls, we need to collectively, as a society, stand up against this continued violence.

And I want to read into the record some of the families, and this is not an exhaustive list by any means, of those who have participated in making this happen for the last two years: Agnes Abraham, Alaya McIvor, Alex Lewis, Allison Dewer, Amanda Sinclair, Amy Linklater, Angel Myran, Angela Lavallee, Angie Tuesday, Anna Hanska, Anna-Grace Morin, Anthony Head, Tonisha Head, Anthony Wood, April Linklater, Aron Chartrand, Ashleigh Thompson, Ashley Demery, Ashley Geddes, Danny Kematch, Ashton Chartrand, Austin Bruyere, Janet Bruyere, Barbara Abraham - Guimond, Barb Houle, Jessica Houle, Barb Sinclair, Belinda Wastesticoot, Bernice and Wilfred Catcheway, Betty Ann Sanderson, Micheale Lynxleg, Betty Lynxleg, Betty and Mike Rourke, Beverly Courchene, Brayanna Petti, Brendon James, Lori Hastings, Brian Nepinak, Britney Sinclair, Candice Volk, Candiice Mason, Carol Chartrand, Carolyn Carpenter –who passed away last year of cancer, Cecil James, Chandri [phonetic] Petti, Charlene McIvor, Cheryl Alexander, Dakota Mandamin, Cheryl James, Cheyenne Chartrand, Christie Zebrasky, William Hudson, Cindy and Jon Head, Claudia Osborne, Dayton Simard, Connie Gabriel, Corely McPherson, Courtney Bear, Crystal McLean, Ian Bruyere, Danae Petti, Daniel Hall, David and Vickie Hunter, Dawnis Kennedy, Makena Smith, Deanna Faye Pangman, Debbie Thunder, Delores Daniels, Desie Murdock, Desiree McKay, Devin James, Coralee Neepin, Donna Bartlett, Doreen Anderson, Doreen Henderson, Roxanne Mosseau, Dylan James, Miranda Watt, Earl Hall, Eileen Easter, Elgin Johnston, Elissa Gabriel, Ellie Hart, Elora Anderson, Robert Anderson, Evan Head, Evelyn Crate, Gail Nepinak, Gardina Prince, Gary Catcheway, Geraldine Moore, Gerri and John Pangman, Gloria and Keith Lalman, Gloria Lebold, Grace Campbell, Gwen Head, Dawnis [phonetic] MacManus, Gwen Wilson, Isabel Daniels.

And I'm going to run out of time, but I will read the rest of the names later. I want to thank everyone for the unanimous support in passing this bill. This is a bill that is long overdue and it shows our families the support, and I want to thank my NDP team for always standing strong with me. Miigwech. The Acting Chairperson (Josh Guenter): We thank the member. Does any other member wish to make an opening statement on Bill 204? Seeing no other members, we will now move forward to consid eration of the bill.

During the consideration of the bill, the enacting clause and the title are postponed until all other clauses have been considered in their proper order. Clause 1–pass; clause 2–pass. Shall clause 3 pass? An Honourable Member: No. The Acting Chairperson (Josh Guenter): I hear a no. Mrs. Smith: I move THAT Clause 3 of the Bill be amended –in the proposed –section–60.2(2), by adding "and" at the end of clause (

a) and replacing clauses (

b) and (

c) with the following: (

b) depicts either a red hand or a red dress. (

b) in the proposed subsection 60.2(3), by striking out "or a portion".

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2703 The Acting Chairperson (Josh Guenter): It has been moved by the member for Point Douglas (Mrs. Smith) THAT Clause 3 of the Bill be amended (

a) in the proposed–section 60.2–in the proposed subsection–60.2–by adding "and" at the end of– THAT Clause 3 of the Bill be amended (

a) in the proposed subsection 60.2(2), by adding "and" at the end of –a clause–of clause (

a) and replacing clauses (

b) and (

c) with the following: (

b) depicts either a red hand or a red dress. (

b) in the proposed subsection 60.2(3), by striking out "or a portion". The amendment is in order. The floor is open for questions. * (15:00) Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Justice and Attorney General): A comment, Mr. Chairperson. I want to thank the member for Point Douglas (Mrs. Smith) for the discussions that we've had. I've said in the past, and it's true: it doesn't require a law to create a licence plate. In fact, I think this might be the first time in Manitoba that it happens this way.

And I don't think it's a precedent that we want to have over and over again; but this is unique, and this is different, and this is special. And I know it's also unique to the member for Point Douglas. I recognize that. So, while it's not necessary, I think it's good that it's being done this way, and I know a great deal of work has been done at MPI in terms of consultations. They'll be able to take that work and–some of the design work that they've done, incorporated with the suggestions by the member for Point Douglas.

I think the expectation for MPI is that they should be able to produce these plates mid- to late July, so, of course, the member will be working with family members, and we'll want to make sure that that is revealed and launched in an appropriate way with the right place where the funds are going. But I just wanted to say that sometimes we get tied up in the fact that we don't feel like we ever agree on things, or we can never come to some sort of common cause. I think on this one we did. Even though it doesn't require a bill, I think the bill is the right thing, and I'm glad for the member for Point Douglas.

I know this is meaningful for her, as it is for all Manitobans, and I commend and congratulate her. The Acting Chairperson (Josh Guenter): Any further comments? Mrs. Smith: I just want to say thank you to the minister for working col laboratively on this. It just shows, you know, families, that we can get some - where when we, you know, work together, and I think that's what all Manitobans want to do, and want to see from our government. So, certainly, this is something that families, you know, their tragedy has been borne out of and have wanted to see, and I look forward to unveiling this with families.

Families are certainly looking forward to it. I did read a list of some of the families, and I'll continue that list when we get to the next stage, because I'd like their names included, because they did do a lot of work to get to where we're at. So, I thank you for the work and the collaboration. Miigwech. The Acting Chairperson (Josh Guenter): Is the committee ready for the question? Amendment–pass; clause 3 as amended –pass; clause 4 –pass; enacting clause –pass; title –pass. Bill as amended be reported. This concludes the busi ness before the com mit- tee. Committee rise. Call in the Speaker.

IN SESSION Committee Report Mr. Josh Guenter (Acting Chairperson): The Com- mittee of the Whole has considered the following: Bill 204, The Drivers and Vehicles Amendment Act (Licence Plates for MMIWG2S Awareness), and reports the same with amendments. I move, seconded by the honourable member for Rossmere (Mr. Micklefield), that the report of the committee be received. Motion agreed to. * * * Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Government House Leader): Could you please call for concurrence and third reading this afternoon, bills 230, 231, 233, 235, 239, 229, 240, 242, 244, 218, 222, 227, 241, 204 and 238.

The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): It has been moved–it has been announced and we will consider concurrence and third reading of bills 230, 231, 233, 235, 239, 229, 240, 242, 244, 218, 222, 227, 241, 204 and 238.

2704 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 CONCURRENCE AND THIRD READINGS Bill 230–The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Concurrence and third reading of Bill 230, The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act, that has been reported from the –okay, the honour able member for Brandon East. Mr.

Len Isleifson (Brandon East): I move, seconded by the member from Brandon West, that Bill 230, The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act, reported from the Standing Commit- tee on Social and Eco nomic Dev elopment, be con- curred in and be now read a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr. Isleifson: Again, just very, very briefly; I know I've spoken to this a number of times already.

I just want to, on record, just thank the members from both AMM and the Manitoba School Boards for communi- cating in regards to this bill and to thank everybody in this House for their support in getting it this far. I look forward to it passing third reading and moving forward as of today. Thank you. Ms. Lisa Naylor (Wolseley): I'm happy for the op- portunity to speak again on this bill before it passes. It is ironic that the PC gov ernment should put forward this bill when the Premier (Mrs. Stefanson) herself has continuously failed to follow conflict of interest laws, election laws and financial rules.

Bill 230 conveniently doesn't require candidates to disclose conflict of interest breaches or election law breaches. As discussed at second reading, this is a sig- nificant gap in Bill 230. This bill required candidates to disclose offences for which they pleaded guilty or have been found guilty. And so, you know, while someone may have been found guilty of a crime 30 years ago and paid their dues to society, this bill means they must disclose this if they run for city council or school board.

Yet, someone like the current Premier can run for the highest office in our province without dis - closing that she violated Manitobans' election law, Manitoba's conflict of interest law and financial rules on more than one occasion. Furthermore, nothing in this amendment calls for the disclosure of membership in white supremacy organizations or hate groups. This was a discrepancy I raised at second reading, and it remains a serious issue and a significant gap in this legislation.

Historically, this gov ernment has made it their mission to undermine standards of electoral fairness, and many of these amendments that they've done over the last seven years, I did outline during the second reading. The NDP supports an electoral landscape that features candidates of diverse backgrounds and socio- economic statuses, which is why our government took several steps to facilitate that we gave voters more power by banning cor porate and union donations, which incr eases the account ability demands on political parties.

We also limited individual contribu- tions; however, this Premier chose to raise the contri- bution limit. * (15:10) The NDP government introduced an independent commissioner to enforce The Election Financing Act, in order to ensure each party's compliance with the act and increase trans parency. We expanded represen - tation on the electoral boundaries com mission to include rural and northern Manitobans by adding the heads of Brandon Uni versity and University College of the North to the commission.

Our NDP gov ernment also expanded Elections Manitoba's role to include promotion of participation, and it was our government who decided to set a fixed date for elections, the first Tuesday in October every four years. Adhering to said election dates allows for better planning around the enumeration process and allows for a stronger voters list. And finally, we took action to increase voter participation. We introduced amendments to allow polls to open an hour earlier on election day to allow voters more time to vote on the way to work.

We added ad ditional days for advanced voting, and we improved access to advanced polls in rural and northern areas so that residents in a com munity will not travel more than 30 kilometres to an advance poll. The election financing laws need to ensure that candidates from different walks of life are able to access the resources needed to run campaigns so that the diversity of Manitoba can be properly represented.

It is im portant that we do every thing we can to maintain the integrity of our elections and ensure that groups and individuals are equally able to run campaigns–unlike the PC Party, who think that choosing leaders to represent everyday Manitobans in the Legislature should be a matter of who has the wealthiest funds and deepest pockets.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2705 I want to thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to put some words on the record before this bill passes with this rather incomplete amend - ment. Thank you. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, first of all, we will support this bill. I have two comments. One is, we tend to focus on negative aspects of people's lives, and it might be nice to have the –give the individual the oppor tunity to provide a short explanation for what happened, in the realm of fairness. Second, I think, as the member for Wolseley (Ms.

Naylor) has already indicated, it might be reasonable, as well, to include people who have found to fall on the other side of the conflict of interest act, because that's pretty important in terms of how demo- cracy runs. Thank you. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Is there any further debate on this bill? Is the House ready for the question? Some Honourable Members: Question. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 230, The Municipal Councils and School Boards Elections Amendment Act.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] Bill 231–The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act

(2) The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): We will now move on to Bill 231, The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (2). Mr. Brad Michaleski (Dauphin): I move, seconded by the member for Swan River (Mr. Wowchuk), that Bill 231, The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (2), reported from the Com mittee of the Whole, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr. Michaleski: Yes, I'm really pleased to sponsor Bill 231. This bill provides tenants with a broader range of reasons to leave a tenancy agreement.

And right now the scope is fairly narrow, and this bill does expand that for tenants, families, who are ex periencing or exposed to living arrangements which i nclude abuse or can be considered abusive. It gives them a pathway to apply to have –to get out of a tenancy agreement , and it also provides more liability to landlords to ensure that they're considerate of their tenants. So I, again, I'm very proud to sponsor 231, and I look forward to passage of this bill. Thank you. Mr.

Mintu Sandhu (The Maples): It is my honour to rise in the House to put a few comments on Bill 231, The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (2). The Manitoba NDP caucus is in support of this bill. This bill amends The Residential Tenancies Act. Household violence, which is violence that adversely affect tenants' quiet enjoyment, security, safety or physical well-being, is added as a reason for the tenant to end their tenancy agreement early. A landlord can be ordered to pay a tenant's reasonable moving expenses if the landlord is responsible for the tenant's experiencing a household violence. Mr.

Deputy Speaker, the housing is a right, and all Manitobans would have access to safe, affordable, safe, quality housing where their rights are protected and respected. Unfor tunately, affordable housing is becoming less and less available in our province, in part thanks to the action of this government. The PCs sold off hundreds of social housing units despite a long wait- list for the housing. This –the PC government has failed to build a single unit of social or affordable housing and has instead cut the maintenance budget while allowing massive above - guideline rent increases to go through.

Manitoba need a gov ernment that will support renters and ensure there is affordable housing avail - able for all. As I said, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Manitoba NDP is in support of this bill. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Manitoba Liberals are in support of this legislation. We believe that violence should be noted and that violence is a reasonable reason why a tenant should be able to leave the residence where they're living. Hopefully, this can be added to the measures

2706 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 which will decrease violence and let us see what happens. But we look forward to this passing and becoming law. Thank you. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Is there any further debate on this bill? Is the House ready for the question? Some Honourable Members: Question. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 231, the residential tenancies amendment act.

Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] I just need to add to the end of the wording on the residential tenancies amendment act. It's supposed to have (2) at the end. Thank you. Bill 233–The Chartered Professionals in Human Resources Act The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): We will now move on to Bill 233, The Chartered Professionals in Human Resources Act. Mr. Shannon Martin (McPhillips): Mr. Acting Speaker, I move, seconded by the member for Brandon East (Mr.

Isleifson), that Bill 233, The Char- tered Pro fessionals in Human Resources Act, be reported from the Com mittee of the Whole, be con- curred in and now be read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. * (15:20) Mr. Martin: Mr. Acting Speaker, busi ness leaders across Manitoba have met with our caucus, as well as talking to the–cross the way, to advise their support to strengthen the author ity and the responsi bility of chartered pro fessionals in human resources here in Manitoba.

This self-regulation will bring that sector in line with other jurisdictions while improving our business climate and protecting employees, employers and their families. Thank you. MLA Malaya Marcelino (Notre Dame): I just have a few short comments. The MLA for The Maples and I did meet with members of the Chart ered Pro fessionals in Human Resources of Manitoba this past Friday, May 26th, 2023. Specifically, we did meet with Ron Gauthier, CEO, and Dr. Lana Adeleye- Olusae, both from the – both the–who–Dr.

Lana Adeleye-Olusae was the board chair of–and they're both from the Chartered Pro fes- sionals in Human Resources of Manitoba. In addition, I also did touch base with somebody from the Manitoba Federation of Labour, and I also was able to reach out to two HR professionals that are currently working in Manitoba who are inter - nationally educated professionals and just started working in this sector very recently. Both Mr. Gauthier and Dr.

Adeleye-Olusae were able to answer a lot of questions regarding the path- ways for internationally accredited professi onals in this field, things like about the pathway, the costs associated with this process, even things about, you know, the terms of the board, board members, and those were important concerns for me. And with those questions and conver sations that we had, I came away from that meeting extremely satisfied that this organization is on the right track as it comes–and I also wish this organization all the best in their future endeavours.

I'm confident that they have the capacity to serve our province well, and I wish them all the best. Thank you. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Manitoba Liberals will support this legis - lation, The Chartered Pro fessionals in Human Resources Act. Human resources is a very critical area for u s in Manitoba, and it's very critical for any organization to handle human resources well. This is particularly true in the current environment.

So, we believe that this will be a substantive and helpful step forward, and we look forward to success in this endeavour and success for those involved in delivering and supporting human resources. Thank you. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Is there any further debate on this bill? Is the House ready for the question? Some Honourable Members: Question.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2707 The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 233, The Chartered Professionals in Human Resources Act. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt this motion? [Agreed] Bill 235–The Employment Standards Code Amendment Act The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): We will now move on to Bill 235, The Em ployment Standards Code Amendment Act. Mr. Andrew Micklefield (Rossmere): I move, seconded by the honourable member for Brandon East (Mr.

Isleifson), that Bill 235, The Employment Stan- dards Code Amendment Act, reported from the Com- mittee of the Whole, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr. Micklefield: Obviously, this has come through the House, through the process. I don't need to spend a lot of time explaining it. But I do want to acknowl edge that bereavement leave is –bereavement is a real loss, that those who lose a pregnancy due to miscarriage and for other reasons experience real loss. That's wh at this recog - nizes.

They now will be able to take more time away without wondering if they're going to lose their job. For that sake, we recognize that loss. We collectively are working, now, to make life a little easier. No bill can do everything, but many bills can do something, and that's what we're endeavouring to do this afternoon. Thank you. Ms. Lisa Naylor (Wolseley): I just–going to take a minute to reflect on this bill. We–I do understand that this bill is a step in the right direction.

I can appreciate that the importance of expanding the length of unpaid leave on the death of a family member from three days to five days with in the standards code of – The Employment Standards Code Amendment Act. The other part of this amendment, expanding the time that an employee can have of 'unplaid'–paid leave if they or their spouse or common-law partner exper- ience a lost pregnancy.

And I'm just going to take the opportunity to say one more time on the record that, obviously, I and others on this side of the House would like to see paid time off for people who have exper ienced miscarriage or other pregnancy loss, as introduced in the Legislature by my colleague, the MLA for The Pas -Kameesak, through bill 20–Bill 210. We are disappoi nted that Bill 210 was not sup- ported by this government, but I do recognize this is a step in the right direction and, hopefully, you can rectify this in the future.

We certainly know that other jurisdictions, such as New Zealand, for example, has extended paid bereavement leave for grieving people who have lost a pregnancy and their partners, and that's something we want to see move forward in the future in Manitoba. Thank you. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Manitoba Libe rals support this as a recog - nition of the sig nificance of bereavement at the time of a loss of a pregnancy. We also support the increase of the leave following the death of a family member being expanded from three days to five days.

I personally think that it would have been wise to also consider including the concept that was brought forward by the member for The Pas, that this be a paid leave. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Are there any further speakers on this bill? Is the House ready for the question? Some Honourable Members: Question. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 235, The Em ployment Standards Code Amend- ment Act. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt this motion? [Agreed] I declare the motion carried.

Bill 239–The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (Application Fees and Deposits) The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): We will now move on to Bill 239, The Resi dential Tenancies Amendment Act (Application Fees and Deposits). Mr. Andrew Micklefield (Rossmere): I move, seconded by the hon ourable member for McPhillips (Mr. Martin), that Bill 239, The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (Application Fees an d Deposits), reported from the Com mittee of the Whole, be con- curred in and be now read for a third time and passed. Motion presented.

2708 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 * (15:30) Mr. Micklefield: I just want to recap for the House: this was brought to my attention that people in this province can be charged a deposit fee just to get their name on a wait-list for an apartment. Now, if you're looking at perhaps exploring whether or not you'd like to get a place in one or two different blocks, and those blocks perhaps are managed by different landlords, potentially one could be asked to put multiple deposits down. These deposits are not always but often 50 per cent of a month's rent.

That's hundreds of dollars; that's a lot of money to shell out, and let's face it, when you're renting a place, quite often, money is something you need more of, not less of. This small change is a step in the right direction for people looking to rent: students, seniors, but everybody in between. And so, I'm very happy not only to commend this to the House, but to receive all- party support for this in the House. It's going to take effect real soon and be a very positive help for people as soon as it does pass and take effect. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Adrien Sala (St.

James): It gives me gre at pleasure to rise in the House to speak to this bill. I do want to say that any time we're advancing the rights of renters in Manitoba, that's a good thing, moving in that direction. And, of course, no renters in Manitoba should be forced to pay applic ation fees simply to apply for the right to apply for a housing unit or a rental unit. There's no question about that.

It does, however, bring me some sadness to know that today we are simply moving slightly down the field in protecting the rights of renters in Manitoba, but we're missing this much broader oppor tunity to help renters in Manitoba, in all com munities in Manitoba, including the community belonging to the member who's brought forward this bill. We have brought forward three times now in this House a bill that would support renters in helping to do away with our issue of above -guideline increases, which–right now, we have a runaway issue with those right now in Manitoba.

And I would argue that, while this bill does, again, support the ability of renters to go ahead and apply for units without having that burden of needing to pay for that application fee, that that is barely an issue that registers in terms of the issues impacting renters. Renters in Manitoba are facing upwards of 20, 25, 30 per cent increases in their rent. We're seeing year after year –and these aren't partisan numbers –year after year, 20 to 30,000 rental units in Manitoba every year are seeing increases of 5 per cent or more, with many, again, being that 20, 25 and 30 per cent cat - egory.

And many others are seeing rent increases much, much higher. In terms of the affordability crisis that Manitobans are facing, this is one of the single greatest contributors, and we had an opportunity to act in response to that issue. Instead of taking action in response to that issue to support renters, the gov ernment has brought for - ward this bill–which again, does move the ball slightly down the field; it will support renters and avoid renters from needing to carry those application costs– but this is not really an issue that's impacting renters in this province.

If the government really was concerned about the rights of renters and supporting the interests of renters, they would have taken action on the predominant issue of above-guideline increases and worked to put a stop to that, but they chose not to do that. So, again, it does give me pleasure to support this bill, because it does advance the rights of renters in a small way, but as I said last week when I had an op- portunity to speak to this, we should not confuse this bill with any type of real action to support renters in Manitoba. Thank you very much, Mr. Acting Deputy Speaker. Hon.

Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Manitoba Liberals will support this legis - lation. It is important, particularly when the rental mar - ket is tight, that those who are applying to rent property are not charged an application fee just to get on the list. And so, we support this legis lation. At other times, when things are not quite so tight in the rental market, this may not be as critical; but I think right now it can be important. And I –we also support the concept that tenants should not be required to pay a deposit before the landlord and tenant into–enter into a tenancy agreement.

I think this is –makes sense, and so, we look forward to this becoming law and creating, in a small way, a better balance between tenants and landlords. Thank you.

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2709 The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Is the House ready for the question? Some Honourable Members: Question. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 239, The Residential Tenancies Amendment Act (Application Fees and Deposits). Is it the pleas ure of the House to adopt this motion? [Agreed] I declare the motion carried.

Bill 229–The Farmers' Markets Week Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended) The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): We will now move on to Bill 229, The Farmers' Markets Week Act (Commemoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended). Mr. Ian Wishart (Portage la Prairie): I move, seconded by the member for Borderland (Mr. Guenter), that Bill 229, The Farmers' Markets Week Act, com - memoration of days, weeks and months amended, reported from the com mittee, be now –reported from the Committee of the Whole, be concurred in and now read for the third time and passed.

The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): It has been moved by the honour able member for Portage la Prairie, seconded by the honour able member for Borderland, that Bill 229, The Farmers' Markets Week Act (Com memoration of Days, Weeks and Months Act Amended), reported from the Committee of the Whole, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed. Mr. Wishart: I think everyone in the House is very familiar with the benefits of this bill.

Not only would it provide Manitobans–give us a week to recognize the great advantages of farmers' markets that provide Manitobans with access to fresh and affordable food, but it's the educational side of this, I think frankly, that is the most valuable part of this, and very often overlooked. The fact that consumers will now know more about the food that they're consuming, and where it's produced a nd how it's produced, but also that the people that are there at the market selling the product have a better connection with their customer. And that is something that also has a great deal of value.

If you're going to produce a product, you need to be able to be sure that the product is what your customer wants, and that they appreciate the effort that goes into this. It's not a simple job, and so I'm very pleased to bring this forward. I know this bill has been brought to this House a few times before, and this time it looks like we're going to be –get it through the House, so I appreciate everybody's co-operation on that. Thank you. Mr. Diljeet Brar (Burrows): This bill, Bill 229, amends the com memoration of days, weeks and months.

The last full week of July, under this bill, each year is proclaimed as farmers' markets week. This is a good bill in the sense that it connects producers with the consumers, which is very im por- tant. Manitoba has dozens of farmers' markets all across the province .

Farmers' markets have many positive impacts in our province: they help build local communities; contribute to local economies; incubate new businesses; support local and sustainable agricul- ture; increase access to farm -fresh products; and provide community resource hubs and gathering places. * (15:40) According to a 2022 study by Direct Farm Manitoba on the economic impacts of farmers' mar - kets, they have an overall economic impact in the province of over $100 million.

Shoppers report choos- ing farmers' markets because they ap preciate the quality, freshness and sus tainability of the products, and they want to support local farmers and businesses. But I want to mention this here: that PCs don't support farmers. The PC gov ernment is making life harder for producers in Manitoba. We know that this PC gov ernment con sistently prioritizes them selves and their wealthy friends, whether it's millions in tax rebates sent out to out-of-province landowners, selling off social housing units to the highest bidder or con- tracting out and priva tizing the delivery of health services.

Now we hear from rural Manitobans that small and medium-sized ranchers are being squeezed out by this gov ernment's failed approach to Crown land leasing and large agribusinesses are able to buy up all the best Crown land leases. The PCs haven't done enough to support producers through these challenges, and their changes to Crown lands have made the situation worse for cattle producers. They've already jacked up Crown leases by 300 per cent or more. The PC gov ernment

2710 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2023 knew that these past few years have been challenging for producers with the pandemic and climate issues impacting operations significantly, but they've decided to plow ahead anyway with their misguided plan for Crown lands, only revealing their true intent after the 2019 election. We care about the future of our producers through difficult times, and want programs that ensure young people can continue to farm.

For a genera tion, Manitoba allocated land gra nts for cattle producers through a points system that included factors such as the farmer's age and their 'proximinity' to the parcel. Now the only criterion for the right to enter into a lease appears to be the highest bidder. This will almost certainly drive up prices and present a real challenge to young beef producers who need to grow their operation. The Manitoba NDP believes in supporting family farms and young people trying to start out in farming. The PCs believe in supporting big cor por- ations.

Ending on that note, we are happy to support Bill 229 that supports local food production and small farmers in Manitoba. Thank you Mr. Deputy Speaker. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Deputy Speaker, Manitoba Liberals will support this bill to establish farmers' markets week. It is a good idea to promote farmers' markets. They are wonderful places to get local produce. They are really good places to have a dialogue with farmers, and that's badly needed for people in the city to understand a little bit better about where food comes from.

And so, we're strong supporters of this legislation, and thank the MLA for Portage for bringing this forward. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Is the House ready for the question? Some Honourable Members: Question. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The question before the House is concurrence and third reading of Bill 229, The Farmers' Markets Week Act , com- memoration days, weeks and months act amended. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt this motion? [Agreed] I declare the motion carried.

Bill 240–The Remembrance Day Amendment Act The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): We will now move on to Bill 240, The Remembrance Day Amend- ment Act. Mr. Len Isleifson (Brandon East): I move that, and seconded by the member from McPhillips, that Bill 240, The Remembrance Day Amend ment Act, reported from the Com mittee of the Whole, be concurred in and be now read for a third time and passed. Motion presented. Mr. Isleifson: Really, just very briefly. We all know we have the utmost oppor tunity to pay our respects and remember those who sacrificed the most on November the 11th of every year.

We also have the ability to reach out beyond that by wearing a poppy prior to November the 11th, actually, from the last S aturday in October until the 11th of November. Again, as I've mentioned, this bill is a proactive bill,

whereas in other jurisdictions, some members of the workforces have been denied the oppor tunity to wear a poppy, so this bill will allow them to w ear a poppy for remembrance week, which is the seven days leading up to November 11th. Again, very important to know that if the wearing of poppy at work does interfere with safety, then it is understandably not–people are not allowed to wear them. But it does give everybody the opportunity to pay the utmost respect and remember those who sacrificed the most. Thank you. MLA Nahanni Fontaine (St.

Johns): I'm pleased to put just a couple of words on the record in respect of Bill 40, the Remembrance Day act. I think that it is im portant for folks, no matter where they work, to be able to have the ability to wear a poppy. I know that we even made some of those – well, had some of those discussions here in respect of the clerks being able to wear poppies, and we made the decision in this Chamber to ensure that clerks were able to wear poppies.

So, it is important that no matter where Manitobans or Canadians work, that they should be allowed, during the month of November up until November 11th, to be able to wear poppies. It is, quite literally,

May 29, 2023 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2711 the bare minimum that we can do as Manitobans or as Canadians to honour those of our relatives that, you know, put their lives on the line, quite literally, so that we could have the freedoms that we certainly do enjoy here in Canada. And finally, I just want to say this, as this is my last opportunity in this 42nd Legis lative Assembly: I just want to honour my own grandfather.

I have men- tioned him a couple of times over the last seven years since I've been elected, but I'm very proud of –our whole family is very proud of my grandfather, Henry Charles Fontaine. He enlisted when he was 17. He actually said that he was 18 on his application. And my grandfather was shipped off, and was on the second and third waves of Juno Beach. And, as I've shared a couple of times, you know, he would have been 18 at that time –just a little boy, just a boy–a young, young man.

And very soon after landing on the beaches, he was captured by the Nazis and he was held as a POW for nine months, in what is modern-day Poland. And I want to share that because I think it's really important to always acknowl edge our veterans and those of our relatives that went to war, and like I said, put their lives on the line, but also in respect of Indigenous veterans and Indigenous citizens who enlisted to serve Canada, and yet were treated so abominably when they got back. And my cousins and I went a couple years ago.

I think that was in 2016, just–I had been newly elected, and my cousins, we traveled to Juno Beach to honour my grandfather, to lay tobacco on that beach, and to honour him and for what he's done for our family and what he's done for all Canadian families. And so, on this last op portunity to speak about that, I want to just also honour my grandfather and– who died with not the recognition that he deserved. And so I just want to honour him today, and I want to honour all of our relatives, those that sacrificed them- selves for all of us. Miigwech. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): I thank the MLA for St.

Johns for staring the family history, which is important and one of the major reasons why, in fact, we have Remembrance Day and why we have poppies as a sign of that memory. * (15:50) Manitoba Liberals are enthusiasti c about sup- porting this. We feel that it is an ad ditional step in ensuring that people will be able to remember and remind others about the sacrifices that so many made so that we can have the freedoms that we enjoy in Canada. With just those few remarks, I look forward to this passing and becoming law. Thank you. Miigwech. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): Is the House ready for the question?

Some Honourable Members: Question. The Acting Speaker (Dennis Smook): The question before the House is co ncurrence and third reading of Bill 240, The Remembrance Day Amendment Act. Is it the will of the House –or, the pleasure of the House to adopt this motion? [Agreed] I declare

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