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Fourth Session, 38th Parliament OFFICIAL REPORT OF DEBATES OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (HANSARD) Tuesday, February 19, 2008 Morning Sitting Volume 26, Number 7 THE HONOURABLE BILL BARISOFF, SPEAKER ISSN 0709-1281

PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA (Entered Confederation July 20, 1871) LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR His Honour the Honourable Steven L. Point, OBC FOURTH SESSION, 38TH PARLIAMENT SPEAKER OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Honourable Bill Barisoff EXECUTIVE COUNCIL Premier and President of the Executive Council ............................................................................................................Hon. Gordon Campbell Minister of State for Intergovernmental Relations .......................................................................................................... Hon.

John van Dongen Deputy Premier and Minister of Education and Minister Responsible for Early Learning and Literacy...................... Hon. Shirley Bond Minister of Aboriginal Relations and Reconciliation ........................................................................................................ Hon. Michael de Jong Minister of Advanced Education and Minister Responsible for Research and Technology ........................................... Hon.

Murray Coell Minister of Agriculture and Lands.......................................................................................................................................................Hon. Pat Bell Attorney General and Minister Responsible for Multiculturalism............................................................................... Hon. Wally Oppal, QC Minister of Children and Family Development ................................................................................................................Hon.

Tom Christensen Minister of State for Childcare ........................................................................................................................................................Hon. Linda Reid Minister of Community Services and Minister Responsible for Seniors’ and Women’s Issues........................................... Hon. Ida Chong Minister of Economic Development and Minister Responsible for the Asia-Pacific Initiative and the Olympics.................Hon.

Colin Hansen Minister of Employment and Income Assistance ...........................................................................................................Hon. Claude Richmond Minister of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources .......................................................................................................Hon. Richard Neufeld Minister of State for Mining......................................................................................................................................................Hon.

Kevin Krueger Minister of Environment and Minister Responsible for Water Stewardship and Sustainable Communities ...............Hon. Barry Penner Minister of Finance.......................................................................................................................................................................Hon. Carole Taylor Minister of Forests and Range and Minister Responsible for Housing ............................................................................. Hon.

Rich Coleman Minister of Health ......................................................................................................................................................................Hon. George Abbott Minister of Labour and Citizens’ Services ......................................................................................................................................Hon. Olga Ilich Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General................................................................................................................................Hon.

John Les Minister of Small Business and Revenue and Minister Responsible for Regulatory Reform............................................ Hon. Rick Thorpe Minister of Tourism, Sport and the Arts ......................................................................................................................................Hon. Stan Hagen Minister of State for ActNow B.C. ............................................................................................................................................ Hon.

Gordon Hogg Minister of Transportation...........................................................................................................................................................Hon.

Kevin Falcon LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Leader of the Official Opposition .........................................................................................................................................................Carole James Deputy Speaker ....................................................................................................................................................................................Sindi Hawkins Deputy Speaker ...........................................................................................................................................................................

Katherine Whittred Assistant Deputy Speaker.....................................................................................................................................................................Sue Hammell Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole................................................................................................................................................. Harry Bloy Clerk of the Legislative Assembly .........................................................................................................................E.

George MacMinn, OBC, QC Clerk Assistant.........................................................................................................................................................................................Robert Vaive Clerk Assistant and Law Clerk .......................................................................................................................................................Ian D. Izard, QC Clerk Assistant and Clerk of Committees ....................................................................................................................................... Craig H.

James Clerk Assistant and Committee Clerk ..........................................................................................................................................Kate Ryan-Lloyd Sergeant-at-Arms............................................................................................................................................................................. A.A.

Humphreys Director, Hansard Services ...................................................................................................................................................................Jo-Anne Kern Legislative Librarian ..................................................................................................................................................................................Jane Taylor Legislative Comptroller...............................................................................................................................................................................Dan Arbic

Party Standings: Liberal 46; New Democratic 33 ALPHABETICAL LIST OF MEMBERS Abbott, Hon. George (L) .................................................................... Shuswap Austin, Robin (NDP)............................................................................. Skeena Bains, Harry (NDP).................................................................. Surrey-Newton Barisoff, Hon. Bill (L)..........................................Penticton–Okanagan Valley Bell, Hon.

Pat (L) .............................................................Prince George North Bennett, Bill (L) ........................................................................ East Kootenay Black, Iain (L) ............................................................ Port Moody–Westwood Bloy, Harry (L)................................................................................Burquitlam Bond, Hon. Shirley (L).....................................Prince George–Mount Robson Brar, Jagrup (NDP).....................................................Surrey–Panorama Ridge Campbell, Hon.

Gordon (L) .........................................Vancouver–Point Grey Cantelon, Ron (L)..............................................................Nanaimo-Parksville Chong, Hon. Ida (L) .................................................... Oak Bay–Gordon Head Chouhan, Raj (NDP) ...........................................................Burnaby-Edmonds Christensen, Hon. Tom (L) ................................................. Okanagan-Vernon Chudnovsky, David (NDP) ......................................... Vancouver-Kensington Coell, Hon.

Murray (L) .....................................Saanich North and the Islands Coleman, Hon. Rich (L)...........................................Fort Langley–Aldergrove Conroy, Katrine (NDP) .......................................... West Kootenay–Boundary Coons, Gary (NDP) ....................................................................... North Coast Cubberley, David (NDP)............................................................Saanich South de Jong, Hon.

Michael (L) ...................................Abbotsford–Mount Lehman Dix, Adrian (NDP) .........................................................Vancouver-Kingsway Evans, Corky (NDP).................................................................Nelson-Creston Falcon, Hon. Kevin (L) .......................................................

Surrey-Cloverdale Farnworth, Mike (NDP) ...............................Port Coquitlam–Burke Mountain Fleming, Rob (NDP) ..............................................................Victoria-Hillside Fraser, Scott (NDP) ..............................................................Alberni-Qualicum Gentner, Guy (NDP).......................................................................Delta North Hagen, Hon. Stan (L) ................................................................ Comox Valley Hammell, Sue (NDP) ................................................... Surrey–Green Timbers Hansen, Hon.

Colin (L) ..................................................Vancouver-Quilchena Hawes, Randy (L).......................................................... Maple Ridge–Mission Hawkins, Sindi (L) ............................................................... Kelowna-Mission Hayer, Dave S. (L) ................................................................ Surrey-Tynehead Hogg, Hon.

Gordon (L).....................................................Surrey–White Rock Horgan, John (NDP)......................................................Malahat–Juan de Fuca Horning, Al (L)........................................................... Kelowna–Lake Country Ilich, Hon. Olga (L)...............................................................Richmond Centre James, Carole (NDP).......................................................Victoria–Beacon Hill Jarvis, Daniel (L)..................................................

North Vancouver–Seymour Karagianis, Maurine (NDP) ........................................... Esquimalt-Metchosin Krog, Leonard (NDP)......................................................................... Nanaimo Krueger, Hon. Kevin (L) .....................................Kamloops–North Thompson Kwan, Jenny Wai Ching (NDP)........................... Vancouver–Mount Pleasant Lali, Harry (NDP)........................................................................

Yale-Lillooet Lee, Richard T. (L)....................................................................Burnaby North Lekstrom, Blair (L).............................................................. Peace River South Les, Hon. John (L)............................................................... Chilliwack-Sumas Macdonald, Norm (NDP).................................... Columbia River–Revelstoke MacKay, Dennis (L)....................................................

Bulkley Valley–Stikine Mayencourt, Lorne (L).......................................................Vancouver-Burrard McIntyre, Joan (L).................................................West Vancouver–Garibaldi Neufeld, Hon. Richard (L) .................................................. Peace River North Nuraney, John (L).............................................................Burnaby-Willingdon Oppal, Hon. Wally, QC (L).......................................... Vancouver-Fraserview Penner, Hon. Barry (L)...........................................................

Chilliwack-Kent Polak, Mary (L) ....................................................................................Langley Puchmayr, Chuck (NDP)...................................................... New Westminster Ralston, Bruce (NDP) ............................................................. Surrey-Whalley Reid, Hon. Linda (L) ................................................................ Richmond East Richmond, Hon. Claude (L).............................................................

Kamloops Robertson, Gregor (NDP) ................................................Vancouver-Fairview Roddick, Valerie (L).......................................................................Delta South Routley, Doug (NDP)..................................................... Cowichan-Ladysmith Rustad, John (L) ........................................................

Prince George–Omineca Sather, Michael (NDP).........................................Maple Ridge–Pitt Meadows Simons, Nicholas (NDP) ...................................Powell River–Sunshine Coast Simpson, Bob (NDP)..................................................................Cariboo North Simpson, Shane (NDP) ....................................................Vancouver-Hastings Sultan, Ralph (L) ....................................................West Vancouver–Capilano Taylor, Hon.

Carole (L).....................................................Vancouver-Langara Thorne, Diane (NDP) .................................................Coquitlam-Maillardville Thorpe, Hon. Rick (L).......................................................Okanagan-Westside Trevena, Claire (NDP) ..................................................................North Island van Dongen, Hon. John (L)............................................ Abbotsford-Clayburn Whittred, Katherine (L)........................................

North Vancouver–Lonsdale Wyse, Charlie (NDP) .................................................................Cariboo South Yap, John (L)...................................................................Richmond-Steveston LIST OF MEMBERS BY RIDING Abbotsford-Clayburn....................................................Hon. John van Dongen Abbotsford–Mount Lehman .......................................... Hon. Michael de Jong Alberni-Qualicum..........................................................................

Scott Fraser Bulkley Valley–Stikine ...........................................................Dennis MacKay Burnaby North ...........................................................................Richard T. Lee Burnaby-Edmonds........................................................................Raj Chouhan Burnaby-Willingdon................................................................... John Nuraney Burquitlam.......................................................................................Harry Bloy Cariboo North..............................................................................

Bob Simpson Cariboo South..............................................................................Charlie Wyse Chilliwack-Kent ..................................................................Hon. Barry Penner Chilliwack-Sumas...................................................................... Hon. John Les Columbia River–Revelstoke................................................. Norm Macdonald Comox Valley........................................................................ Hon.

Stan Hagen Coquitlam-Maillardville..............................................................Diane Thorne Cowichan-Ladysmith ................................................................. Doug Routley Delta North ...................................................................................Guy Gentner Delta South ............................................................................. Valerie Roddick East Kootenay................................................................................

Bill Bennett Esquimalt-Metchosin.........................................................Maurine Karagianis Fort Langley–Aldergrove ..................................................Hon. Rich Coleman Kamloops.....................................................................Hon. Claude Richmond Kamloops–North Thompson ............................................Hon. Kevin Krueger Kelowna–Lake Country.................................................................. Al Horning Kelowna-Mission ......................................................................

Sindi Hawkins Langley ...........................................................................................Mary Polak Malahat–Juan de Fuca .................................................................. John Horgan Maple Ridge–Mission ................................................................ Randy Hawes Maple Ridge–Pitt Meadows ..................................................... Michael Sather Nanaimo......................................................................................

Leonard Krog Nanaimo-Parksville .....................................................................Ron Cantelon Nelson-Creston .............................................................................Corky Evans New Westminster .................................................................. Chuck Puchmayr North Coast....................................................................................

Gary Coons North Island ...............................................................................Claire Trevena North Vancouver–Lonsdale................................................Katherine Whittred North Vancouver–Seymour..........................................................Daniel Jarvis Oak Bay–Gordon Head ........................................................... Hon. Ida Chong Okanagan-Vernon......................................................... Hon. Tom Christensen Okanagan-Westside..............................................................Hon.

Rick Thorpe Peace River North.......................................................... Hon. Richard Neufeld Peace River South..................................................................... Blair Lekstrom Penticton–Okanagan Valley .................................................Hon. Bill Barisoff Port Coquitlam–Burke Mountain ............................................Mike Farnworth Port Moody–Westwood.................................................................... Iain Black Powell River–Sunshine Coast ...............................................

Nicholas Simons Prince George North.................................................................... Hon. Pat Bell Prince George–Mount Robson ............................................Hon. Shirley Bond Prince George–Omineca................................................................ John Rustad Richmond Centre......................................................................Hon. Olga Ilich Richmond East........................................................................Hon.

Linda Reid Richmond-Steveston...........................................................................John Yap Saanich North and the Islands ............................................ Hon. Murray Coell Saanich South ........................................................................ David Cubberley Shuswap............................................................................Hon. George Abbott Skeena.......................................................................................... Robin Austin Surrey-Cloverdale............................................................... Hon.

Kevin Falcon Surrey–Green Timbers ................................................................Sue Hammell Surrey-Newton............................................................................... Harry Bains Surrey–Panorama Ridge.................................................................Jagrup Brar Surrey-Tynehead ....................................................................... Dave S. Hayer Surrey-Whalley...........................................................................Bruce Ralston Surrey–White Rock ............................................................Hon.

Gordon Hogg Vancouver-Burrard..............................................................Lorne Mayencourt Vancouver-Fairview.............................................................Gregor Robertson Vancouver-Fraserview .................................................Hon.

Wally Oppal, QC Vancouver-Hastings .................................................................Shane Simpson Vancouver-Kensington.......................................................David Chudnovsky Vancouver-Kingsway ......................................................................Adrian Dix Vancouver-Langara ........................................................... Hon. Carole Taylor Vancouver–Mount Pleasant........................................ Jenny Wai Ching Kwan Vancouver–Point Grey ................................................Hon.

Gordon Campbell Vancouver-Quilchena.........................................................Hon. Colin Hansen Victoria–Beacon Hill...................................................................

Carole James Victoria-Hillside ...........................................................................Rob Fleming West Kootenay–Boundary........................................................Katrine Conroy West Vancouver–Capilano...........................................................Ralph Sultan West Vancouver–Garibaldi ........................................................Joan McIntyre Yale-Lillooet..................................................................................... Harry Lali

CONTENTS Tuesday, February 19, 2008 Morning Sitting Routine Proceedings Page Introductions by Members ....................................................................................................... .............................................. 9771 Throne Speech Debate (continued) ............................................................................................................................... .......... 9771 Hon. K. Krueger R. Austin H. Bloy H. Lali L. Mayencourt

9771 TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 The House met at 10:02 a.m. [Mr. Speaker in the chair.] Prayers. Introductions by Members M. Farnworth: I t ' s m y p l e a s u r e t o i n t r o d u c e , o n behalf of the opposition, this year's intake of interns. I know the government side will be doing that. We in the opposition have our inte rns, and I would just like to take this moment to introduce them. They are energetic and enth usiastic, and I know they're going to do a terrific job. They are Angela Chaisson, Ned de Beck, Selena Mitchell, Travis Patterson and Ian Reid. Will the House please make them most welcome.

Orders of the Day Hon. B. Penner: I call continued debate in response to the excellent throne speech. Throne Speech Debate (continued) Hon. K. Krueger: When we adjourned last evening, I was close to the end of my remarks in reply to the throne speech. I was speaking briefly about the B.C. geological survey, which is a wonderful scientific heritage for British Columbia and does great work with student teams every summer — 39 students last year — leading, actually, to new discoveries by the teams themselves.

It is the surging mining sector, we believe, that is going to bring a lot of hope to the people and communities of the interior in the face of very difficult times brought on by nature, climate change and market forces. I want to speak now about safety in the mining industry. The industry in Br itish Columbia takes great pride in its safety record and the performance of its workers in that regard, and I want to spotlight those results. There is a constant and dedicated collaboration between highly skilled and experienced public servants in our ministry — mine managers, the workers themselves and their unions.

Injury rates have been cut to half their numbers in the last ten years. Mining is now one of the safest heavy industries in B.C. Every mining permit issued in our province has safety as its first, last and constant focus. B.C. mines have rescue teams who practise constantly and compete regularly at regional and provincial levels. I have attended a number of these meets and find their skills inspiring.

They work fast and well and practise very hard in the knowledge that at any time their skills may be tested in dramatic ways, saving human lives. [1005] Last summer a wall of the Pavilion quarry not far from Cache Creek collapsed upon an excavator, burying the machine and its operator under some 13 metres of rubble. It was late in the ev ening, and I heard that they still hadn't found the machine. I prayed for the operator through the evening but didn't really have much hope that he would be discovered alive.

But the Highland Valley rescue team was on the scene very quickly, worked through the night and rescued the worker who was quietly waiting for them, huddled in the footwell of his machine. The aggregate industry is a vital component of mining in our province. British Columbians consume an average 12 tonnes of aggregate — that is, sand, gravel and crushed rock — per year in the rehab and maintenance of our infrastructure. Roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, public buildings — 12 tonnes per British Columbian per year.

The industry is tremendous l y b u s y w i t h a l l o f t h e construction that's going on in this hot economy. Last spring there was a tragic accident at a Fraser Valley quarry, in which a young woman was killed while operating a mine truck on only her second day at work. There were three further fatal accidents over the next several months, each one a worker operating a piece of heavy equipment. These tragedies occurring over a short period of time were a shocking departure from the safety record of our industry.

We responded by calling the Aggregate Producers Association to Victoria and agreed with them on goals to instil a safety culture in workers, with particular care for new workers. They're working hard at it. They're producing, similar to what the construction industry has done, a Green Hand–Gold Hand program, where new workers are mentored by experienced workers who have the gold indications on their hardhats . " S a f e t y f i r s t " i s t o b e modelled by everyone in the industry. The association has a long-term plan, and government is working with them.

We committed to and delivered a best-practices guide for workers to carry with them and have in their machines. It enhances the health and safety of workers at our many aggregate mining opera- tions, providing useful and practical guidelines to assist managers, supervisors and th e workers in the industry to maintain the safest and healthiest possible work environments in the growing industry. It was written by several of our inspectors, people with long practical experience in the industry. The inspectors play an important

part in ensuring the continued health and safe ty of B.C.'s mineworkers, and their presence in the fi eld has been significantly increased. The chief inspector has required names of all new workers in the various operations to be provided to him, with records of their training. B.C. has long been a world leader in mine safety, and we want to ensure that we uphold this reputation and keep all mines, including quarries, safe. I want to speak briefly about reclamation — briefly, because I'm running out of time. But it is something that we have every reason to be very proud of in British Columbia.

Our modern approaches to mining in B.C. require that no permit is issued without a detailed reclamation plan fully agr eed upon. Bonds are set to ensure that work will be completed and paid off.

9772 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 Several weeks ago we announced that Fording River operations received the 2007 Mining and Sustainability Award for its efforts to promote sustainable development in the B.C. mining sector. The company is a leader in mining reclamation and is wo rking hard to ensure that mining only leaves a minimal footprint on the land, protecting water and wildlife in the Elkford, Fernie and Sparwood areas. Over 650 hectares of the mining area that this site has used have been revegetated.

Reclamation is an ongoing process at Fording River and other sites all around B.C. In fact, in 2005 metal mines reclaimed 13,315 hectares. In 2006 — 10,171 hectares. Coalmines reclaimed 7,948 hectares in 2005 and 8,021 hectares in 2006. It's a lot of land, and we're proud of those achievements. I want to speak — again, I only have a limited time to do it, so it'll be short, but I'd like to have a lot of time for it — about our successes with first nations. There are excellent partnerships at work in British Columbia, in various places around th e province.

The partnership between the Tahltan First Nation and NovaGold at Galore Creek is legendary for its success. The Taku River Tlingit and Adanac, in developing a mine at Ruby Creek, also have a wonderful collaboration. [1010] The Upper Similkameen Indian band has signed a protocol with government, with regard to how industry advances within their traditional territory, and it's a model. The Blueberry River First Nations signed four different economic agreements with government last year. That is going very well as well.

Barrick Gold and the Tahltan First Nation have a partnership at the Eskay Creek mine, which employs about 35 percent first nations people — 35 percent of the workforce. The Pavilion quarry and li me plant, which I mentioned earlier, where the accident took place, employs about 28 first nations people. The Orca Sand and Gravel operation at Port McNeill is a partnership between Polaris Minerals and the 'Namgis First Nation. It plans to produce high-quality construction aggregates for major urban markets, has a brand-new, beautiful shiploading facility and is a going concern.

When I visited there, the Chief of the first nation said: "Do everything you can to make sure this operation succeeds. We own outright a 12 percent stake in it." And they actually provide mo re than 50 percent of the workers in that giant quarry . They actually built the infrastructure. The owners delivered the materials. They built it themselves, and now they're operating it. A couple more words about some successes around the province.

We were trem endously pleased to enter into a public-private partnership to clean up the prob- lems at Britannia mine, and now we have pure water flowing from that mine and a museum — a heritage that we can all be proud of. We're working hard to clean up the issues on the Tsolum River from an old copper mine that was closed in the '60s. It's been leaching into the river and causing tremendous problems for fish. We're a long way toward getting that fixed.

We can afford to do these things because of the leadership of our Premier and the successful working of the plan that we laid out to restore British Columbia's economy. Mining is a big piec e of that plan, a big piece of that success. It will continue to be and will grow as a component of our provincial revenues and of the economy. R. Austin: I rise today to give my response to last week's Speech from the Thro ne. I'd like to begin by thanking the people of my riding, Skeena, for affording me this honour of representing them in this chamber. [K.

Whittred in the chair.] Now, traditionally, the throne speech is the govern- ment's attempt to try as best they can to make out that everything is going well in our province and that the government is going to perhaps do a whole bunch of things that will make things even better. In the case of my part of British Columbia — and in particular, I'm talking about the communities in Skeena that I represent — things are not going so well, and even this government occasionally accepts that the northwest part of British Columbia has not become a part of the best place on earth.

What the good people of Skeena have done is make many of the most horrendous sacrifices in the hope that the good times that we had previously would come back. In fact, we had a much better economic go of things in the 1990s. I say this not just as a partisan point of view, but I can back up my statement with real facts, many of which have once again been confirmed in the recent census that was completed last year. People have moved away from all the communities in north- west B.C., looking for jobs elsewhere, as the collapse in the forest sector has destroyed so many jobs.

As though we don't have enough problems with one resource sector, we also have to deal with another giveaway of a great public resource. I speak, of course, of this government's decision to change the intent of the B.C. industrialization act to allow Alcan to move from an industrial company, manufacturing aluminum, to an independent power producer that also makes aluminum.

The northwest has thus lost the security of knowing that whenever Alcan eventually decides to build a new smelter, it would at least use all the power to smelt rather than this approach that this Liberal government has done and allowed Alcan to do whatsoever it wishes with that power. Last year we actually saw the example of this government going to court, alongside lawyers for Alcan, and essentially saying that the aluminum industry that has been in northwest B.C. for the last 50 years just happened by happenstance.

The government lawyers stated that the original intent was for this to have been a hydro project and that real ly we are lucky to have had an aluminum industry in this province at all. I think it is very sad, and it shows that the government has written off northwest B.C. [1015]

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES 9773 The Speech from the Thro ne spoke very enthusias- tically, of course, about the excitement of hosting the Olympics in 2010. I certainly acknowledge that people are getting excited about this prospect. But honestly, my constituents in Skeena have far more important things on their minds than a celebration of sporting and cultural achievement in two years' time.

They are more concerned about what this government is going to do to help support a part of this province where many families — unfortunately, the majority of families — are struggling just to get by from day to day. The Olympics is not on the radar of people who cannot find work and have to think about the prospect of leaving the area and their families to go look for work.

What we have seen in northwest B.C. over the last several years is a major shift in our economy from h a v i n g v e r y w e l l - p a i d j o b s i n t h e f o r e s t r y s e c t o r t o a string of part-time jobs at much lower pay — jobs that simply cannot support a family in any meaningful way. People care more about their kids having to endure a four-day school week in a province that claims to be in a boom. Why, for goodness' sake, are several thousand children and their families not getting five days of school like all other children in British Columbia?

I have families who are pu tting their kids on a bus before 7 a.m. to get to school on time, and those children are coming home after 5 p.m. This is a very long day for young children to have to endure. How does this help them to learn? The Minister of Education , when I brought this up, suggested this is a local school board issue that should be taken up with trustees. But having spoken to the trustees who had to make this decision, they say that it was the school funding formula as well as the enormous loss of children out of our school district that forced this decision upon them.

In other words, this was not a decision made in the best interests of children but, rather, a financial decision made out of desperation. What we needed to see in this throne speech was recognition that with a huge budget surplus, it is ludicrous for some children in this province to be going to school only four days of the week . There should be minimum standards that kids and parents should expect in a province as wealthy as this one. One of those things is the ability of every child to attend school for five consecutive days.

Parents are sick and tired of having to make arrangements for one day of childminding a week during the school ye ar. Others are angry and upset that teenagers are being given the ultimate treat for them: a long weekend every week. People don't want to hear slogans about how the world will be astonished at the great Olympic Games that we are going to put on. Maybe people visiting this province should know that while we are spending countless millions on a two-week Olympic event, we don't even give enough money to all of our school districts to keep the kids in school for five days.

I'd like to spend a few minutes talking about the new relationship that this government goes on about at great length. As I have said in the past, I have given credit for the turnaround in the attitudes of this Premier from the days when he o pposed the Nisga'a treaty. However, having a document created with some new ideas about how to work with, as opposed to against, first nations interests does not mean a thing if there is no action to fulfil these words.

I have recently witnessed a meeting in one of the first nations communities in my riding where the leadership expressed deep concern that there was an attitude of "you must negotiate now or else." People were made to feel that a gun was being put to their heads to come up with a deal at all costs. Is that what a new relationship is all about? The throne speech refers to incremental treaty agreements to "help first na tions benefit earlier in the treaty-making proce ss." In other words, it refers to business deals outside of the treaty process.

This in itself is an admission of failure on the part of the government. It is essentially saying: "Look. We know that it is going to take many years to reach a treaty, so why don't we give you a few crumbs now to keep you happy until such time as we can get to a treaty?" [1020] The Auditor General, in his report last year into the state of the treaty-making pr ocess, criticized this as having a negative impact on treaty-making, because it takes away the incentive for all parties to come to the table and do the hard part of actually making treaties.

Many first nations are so desperate for any economic opportunity that they will be forced to accept less than what they would get in a full treaty if they were to follow this approach. Indeed, in one part of my riding where the Kitwanga band and the Gitanyow people live, the rates of unem- ployment are over 90 percent. They are so high that any crumb will be seen as impossible not to accept, even though every day they have to witness truckloads of logs bypassing their communities, even as their own mill has remained shut for many years now.

My hope is that we will see changes in legislation that will bring some certainty to the treaty process so that both sides know what is meant by the terms "con- sultation" and "accommodation." Right now, no one knows how to deal with what the courts have said, and i t i s u p t o t h i s g o v e r n m e n t to d e f i n e t h o s e t e r m s a n d , more importantly, the proce sses by which first nations can achieve true reconciliation within the treaty process.

This government's throne speech talks about new legislation that's going to "enable aboriginal authorities to assume legal responsibility for the delivery of most child and family services." This is in fact a retread of an old part from throne speeches in the past. This is happening in some areas of the province. I'd like to commend one agency in my area, and that is NIFCS, which is following on from the Nisga'a, who of course took charge of their own aboriginal child welfare agency as part of the Nisga'a treaty. Just before Christmas NIFCS was able to negotiate an ability for them to handle every

section except for child protection. All of the six nations in northwest B.C. now that are part of NIFCS will take advantage of this and finally

9774 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 have control over their own children. This is a success for all those who work at the Ministry of Children and Family Development as well as those who led this proposal to ensure that they would have control over their own children. What's missing in this throne speech from the previous years is that there's no mention of literacy, or maybe just one reference to it. In the past this was highly spoken of by the government. This is problematic because, unfortunately, in northwest B.C. we have very low rates of literacy.

It's one of the challenges that our school district is having to try and overcome. In speaking to those who work at the community college, they are finding so many students who actually graduate from high school and yet effectively don't have the kind of literacy skills necessary to continue with further education. It would h a v e b e e n n i c e t o s e e s o m e m o r e i m p a c t o f l i t e r a c y coming into this throne speech. There's no mention in the throne speech of the state of aboriginal education in British Columbia.

Once again, in school district 82 we have rates of high school achievement amongst our abor iginal population that are less than half that of the general population. When you consider how large our aboriginal population is in northwest B.C., you have some idea of the scope of this tragedy. Many young aboriginals are leaving school or dropping out of school without the skills necessary to make it in our society, and I would like this government to take note of that and to ensure that the school districts have the ability to help to bridge this gap.

With regard to advanced education, Northwest Community College in my riding is struggling to find enough students to fill all of their spaces. I think this is in part because we really don't know what's happening with the community colleges. They seem now to be having to compete with the universities for first- and second-year students,

whereas in the past it was more traditional for the community colleges to take on the role of providing university transfer credits for those wh o are in first and second years. Those students would then transfer over to the universities in the larger urban centres to complete their degrees with third- and fourth-year courses. Now what we see is UNBC and other universities competing for these first- and second-year courses, and that's making it harder for community colleges to succeed at what I believe has always been their mandate.

In regard to employment and income assistance, there was no mention in the throne speech of raising the shelter rate, even thou gh everybody knows that $325 a month is not sufficient for people to be able to find accommodation. What this does is leave lots of families living in abject poverty, and those children growing up in those families will be the problems that we have to deal with in the future. [1025] With regard to energy and mines, the throne speech said that they are going to find that the cost of producing new, clean electricity….

Even though the price of "clean electricity unavoidably goes up, consumers will be given new tools to help conserve energy and save money on their…bills." There seems to be a mindset on the government side of the House that energy costs are going to have to go up dramatically and that this i s e n t i r e l y u n a v o i d a b l e . We on this side of the House disagree fundamentally with that. We realize that the cost of producing new electricity will be more expensive than all of the heritage projects that we have had traditionally in this province.

However, it is this government's policy of privatizing our rivers and allowing thos e projects to go only to private enterprise and not be allowed to be made by the state that is going to create much higher electricity costs for all British Columbians. It's not just those of us on this side saying that. We even have the captains of industry — those who run big, industrial, electricity-consuming projects all over British Columbia such as pulp mills and paper mills — who are now realizing what the costs of this govern- ment's energy plan are going to do.

It is going to make the cost of electricity far higher, and that's a great shame. This province was built largely on the vision of people who realized that we could create cheap electricity from our natural resources — from our rivers and our st reams. Now that advantage has been given away in orde r for a few cronies of the government to be able to open up IPP projects. In fact, what we have nowadays under the new energy program is B.C. Hydro essentially changing their policy simply to backfill the IPPs. As we know, with IPPs the wind may not blow.

There may not be enough water in the stream to keep that IPP creating electricity. So it's now B.C. Hydro's job to firm up that electricity power. In other words, B.C. Hydro now is working in the interests of th e IPPs rather than in the interests of the people of British Columbia in maintaining low electricity prices. Again to quote from the sp eech: "Green developments waiting for provincial environmental approvals will be fast-tracked and given priority." I love how this government claims that every single IPP project is green.

I think that just refers to the number of $20 bills that get to go into the pockets of those who build the IPPs, rather than to the actual technology itself. Some of those projects are far fr om green. I think what we're going to see now in terms of "fast-tracked and given priority" is that we are going to now stop the public from having input into IPP projects. In my own neck of the woods we have three proposed projects on the Skeena River. Depending on the size and the megawatts that are being produced here, people in Skeena won't have an opportunity to speak in public meetings.

In fact, the local city and districts won't have any say as to whether those things are approved, thanks to Bill 30 that was passed in early years in this session — a bill designed to take away the rights of local residents to speak out and discuss the merits of individual IPP projects in their ridings. As I've mentioned, I represent a community that was once a forestry town that today does not have a mill running in it. Yet there's very little mention of forestry

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES 9775 in the throne speech. This was once the prime industry that created and built this province, and yet now there's hardly any mention of forestry. We hear of pine beetle but only in terms of its environmental effects. The forestry recovery program is a round table from this government. We hear about Trees for Tomorrow. This is not about growing new trees all over rural B.C. This is about urban forestation, investments in nurseries. This is only good for urban areas.

Already we've missed the 2009 planting season, where we should have been investing in millions more trees to make up for what has been happening. The government has even refused to give any money to struggling homeowners that have had to remove trees from their own properties. This is a problem even in the city of Terrace, now that the pine beetle has finally arrived there. But people are getting bills of $5,000 to $10,000 to have trees cut down safely out of their own properties.

This is not their fault that this has come, and I think there should have been some help in this regard. [1030] I'd like to move over to a

section in the throne speech with regards to seniors care. The government is studying an independent living savings account framework which would "allow citizens to choose to invest a certain portion of their income each year, up to age 75, in a tax-sheltered savings account that can be used for home care support, assisted independent housing and supportive housing options." We will wait to see what the legislation says on this, but what it suggests in the throne speech is that, effectively, the government is trying to get people to pay for their own health care in their senior years.

It's saying to those who can afford to buy a premium: "Go and buy yourself private insurance for the future, because when you reach 65 or older, the government and the public health care system won't be there for you." That is not what people in Skeena want to see as health care when they arrive in their senior years. The government is going to bring in a change to not allow smoking in vehicles. Congratulations to them.

That is a long overdue piece of legislation but one which not necessarily the government should be taking any credit for, but my colleag ue sitting here behind me from Nanaimo, who actually brought this in last year as a private member's bill. It didn't seem to get support from the House, the government side, at that time, but thankfully, they've seen the light of day and are now bringing that in, in this session. We look forward to that coming in. I'd like to go back to a

section to do with health. The government wants to defi ne and enshrine the five principles of the Canada He alth Act plus a sixth, the principle of sustainability, in provincial law before the end of this government's mandate. I am very troubled to think that we are going to see a

section brought in to amend the Canada Health Act or to add on to the Canada Health Act, a portion or a law that would be seeking to limit the expenditures of health care. We all understand that health care costs are rising in this province, but if we put some kind of cap upon it, that is going to be rationing health care for those people who need it. I represent a part of British Columbia where, before people have a chance to access the health care system, they also have to travel far to get there.

So already there are increased costs upon all of those who live in rural British Columbia to try and get to the urban centres, whether it be Prince George or Vancouver, to go and see the necessary specialists, for them to be able to take care of their own health care needs. The notion that the government might somehow now be bringing in a

section that would actually limit health care dollars is very troubling. We saw from last year, when the Premier and the Health Minister travelled to some European countries as part of seeking to see what other countries are doing with their health care system…. They came back, and one of the things that I've heard so far from the Minister of Health is that this government is going to be looking at changing from the block funding to individual funding for hospitals. He mentioned that this had been done with great success in the United Kingdom.

I would just like to state on the record that, having come from the United Kingdom, the only place to get good health care in Britain is if you buy private medi- care. It's a very sad state of affairs, because in Britain they once had a public health care system that was the envy of the world. If you go and speak to British people today, they do not regard their public health care system as the envy of the world any longer. The majority of those who can afford it buy private medical insurance in Britain, and that is where this government wants us to head. That is the truth.

I still have lots of family living there. In regard to labour and citizen services, the govern- ment will work with industry and labour to develop pension-bridging opportunities for all the workers nearing retirement. That is required in my part of the world as people are trying to transition out of the forestry industry and trying to find some other kind of training or other jobs. Many of them are still too young to retire. S o i t i s v e r y i m p o r t a n t t h a t t h e y h a v e s o m e k i n d o f pension-bridging opportunities.

The difficulty for those who are living in the forestry sector is that they have sp ent most of their lives doing one job with one industry, and it is very hard for them to learn new things. There needs to be programs in place so that they can have new training. [1035] I noticed that there is no mention in the throne speech of the forest workers' safety report that came out recently from my predecessor — a report that I think many of us on this side of the House thought was excellent.

Unfortunately, it got trashed the following day by the Minister of Forests, who said that it wasn't part of his mandate to discuss things that would require money to be spent. In reality, I think those of us who work in forest communities still see a lot of logging taking place even though the millworking jobs have gone, and we need

9776 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 to see a forest safety network that helps to stop these tragedies on the forestry roads. The logging roads need to become part of the general road structure in terms of safety. In regards to the overall to ne of this speech, I'll wait for the details to come out in legislation. A lot of it was kind of slogans and though ts without there being a great deal of detail. We'll have to see what actually comes out this session.

But I think many of the programs, good or bad, speak very much to things that are happening in urban centres in the lower mainland and to the Olympics, which is really not that relevant to those of us who live in rural British Columbia. I hope that the people of Skeena, who obviously will be contributing financially to the Olympics, get something more out of this government than what we see here in the throne speech. Later today in the budget, hopefully we will see some details to that. So with that, hon.

Speaker, I will now thank you for the opportunity to speak to the throne speech and pass on to the other side. H. Bloy: I t ' s a r e a l h o n o u r a n d p r i v i l e g e t o s t a n d here today as a representative of the great riding of Burquitlam, part of Burnab y and part of Coquitlam. I've been honoured now for seven years to represent the riding and to bring their views to Victoria. I can tell you I will be bringing their views on the throne speech to Victoria, and I'm encouraged to support it 100 percent without question. But I wouldn't be fair…. It's not just me in the riding.

I have some great staff who help me and a number of volunteers. I have CAs. I have Katie Merrifield, Ann Mayo and Chanelle Jen, who is a university student from Simon Fraser working part-time in my office. I also have staff in Victoria who assist me: Katy Fairley; Sarah Morris, who's communications; and Sarah Elder in research. It's because of them that allowed me to do the work and to help represent the people of Burquitlam.

Just before I get into my positive speech — I believe this is the best throne speech that I've ever heard — I just have to say a few things to the previous member, for Skeena, who went on about the Terrace-Kitimat school board and school going four days a week. We gave additional funding to all the school boards. The Terrace- Kitimat school board made the decision originally to go to four days a week. After receiving additional funding, they decided to stay at four d a y s a w e e k s o t h a t t h e y could offer more programs for the students in their area.

The school board, the school district, made the decision. You know, he has many misinformed thoughts about the treaty process. We've actually signed treaties. He really hasn't…. How can I say this, now? Facts and the truth didn't seem to really interfere with the story that he was about to tell. There are members from the p r e v i o u s N D P g o v e r n m e n t t h a t s u p p o r t w h a t w e d o . Cathy McGregor, former Environment Minister, supports the run-of-the-water IPP projects. There are a number of people that support what this B.C. Liberal government is doing.

This NDP gov- ernment is against small busi ness, and it's proven over and over again. They are more against it — I hate to say it — than Glen Clark was. They are against small business. The NDP provincial government…. I'd like t o q u o t e f r o m J o a n S a w i c k i , a f o r m e r M i n i s t e r o f t h e Environment, Lands and Park s: "Restructuring water rental rates to take advantage of the environmental benefits offered by small hy dro projects can help us meet our goals. In fact, they reduce the rates." [1040] But I'm positive. I want to move ahead.

I want to tell you how happy I am to be able to talk about this throne speech, which is a throne speech to make British Columbians better off in our community. Health care is a monumental issue affecting every single British Columbian, of all ages, backgrounds and walks of life. You don't have to be in government to realize that to continue the way we do health care today is not sustainable. We have increased health care funding by over 52 percent since 2001, and you can't keep growing at that rate.

The health care initiatives in the throne speech build on the input from th e Conversation on Health and will improve care in the long term and for future British Columbians. Our goal is an efficient, effective and integrated health care system that promotes the health of all citizens and provides high-quality education to everyone. There will be one public payer for health services that will continue to deliver services through public and private providers. We are adopting new, effective strategies that will improve health for all our citizens.

You know, these strategies include expanding the role of nurses where they can provide some treatment; of pharmacists, where they can renew prescriptions; for paramedics, where they can release patients; for midwives; for naturopaths; investments in research and prevention; establishment of a B.C. patient safety council; and new patient care quality review boards in every health region. Health professionals certified to practise elsewhere in Canada, including foreign-trained doctors, will be able to work in British Columbia.

That will include a restricted licence enabling foreign-trained physicians to practise in areas of expertise. I just want to read from a press release. It does mention me, but it's from the As- sociation of International Medical Doctors that they released after the throne speech. The Association of International Medical Doctors of British Columbia was in attendance at the throne speech in Victoria. They met with the hon. George A bbott, Minister of Health, and we also had lunch together.

"We have been working with health care stake- holders for the last four years and are encouraged by the cooperation we have received from the Minister of Health and the assistance we have received from MLAs from Burquitlam and Burrard. "The throne speech yesterday highlighted some ex- traordinary advancements that we have been advocating for, including the introduction of health profession re- view board, new legislation to ensure that foreign-trained doctors recognized elsewhere in Canada are recognized in B.C., residency positions to be expanded for Canadian citizens trained outside of British Columbia.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES 9777 "The government is moving forward on the subject of immigrant doctor integration, and we look forward to learning more about the details of these plans and work- ing with the Ministry of Health, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of B.C. and the UBC faculty of medicine to make these initiatives work." You know, there was an

article in The Vancouver Sun shortly after the throne speech. "The throne speech this week goes a long way to breaking down the barriers that have prevented doctors trained outside the province from practising here.

It promised a new health profession review board that will ensure qualified health workers can fully use their train- ing and skills and not be barred by unnecessary creden- tialing and licensing restrictions. …physicians accredited in other provinces will automatically be able to practise in British Columbia…." It pledged that Canadians trained outside the country in accredited institutions will get residency positions to enable them to work here. "This puts the onus on the B.C.

College of Physicians and Surgeons, which derives its authority from the Medical Practitioners Act to amend its gatekeeper role to accommodate the government's more welcoming posture." I believe that the College of Physicians in British Columbia and the Royal College of Physicians really have to change their outlook on how we get people into British Columbia to practise their health care services that they want to provide here.

Just about every doctor — and there are 450 members of the Association of International Medical Doctors — could go practise in the United States or anywhe re out in the world, but they chose Canada. [1045] They chose British Columbia, and the B.C. Medical Association has to stop being an elitist group, stopping these people from working. Th ey are so restrictive that we had to come up with regulation so that they'll start thinking the process and move forward.

We have so much intellect in this country that could be working for the betterment of all citizens of British Columbia, restricted by a number of elitist professional associations, and this has to end. I support our government's move to change this. Meantime we have a provincial nominee program and a successful Skills Connect for Immigrants program that will be expanded to help those in demand for skilled workers. We have many health professionals here that may not have the opportunity to practise as a doctor, but there are other areas of the health profession that they can work.

We're funding a working program to keep them in the health profession, to use their ability to make a contribution to British Columbia. A few weeks ago I was honoured to attend the government announcement that a total of 521 nurses from the United Kingdom have been hired in the lower mainland over the last two years, the result of targeted provincial recruitment efforts. The whole world is recruiting. It's not just British Columbia that's short of nurses and doctors and health care practitioners. It's everywhere in the world.

We had a hard time recruiting, but with some of the change s and the benefits and the great place that British Columbia is to live, people want to come here and practise. All recruits are qualified to practise in the United Kingdom and may originally be from other communities around the British Isles as well as countries such as Ghana, Jamaica, India, Zi mbabwe and the Philippines. Recruiting nurses to British Columbia is part of the province's health nursing strategy. Since 2001 we've invested over $174 million, including $28 million in 2007, to help educate, retain and recruit the best qualified nurses.

British Columbia has added over 3,300 nursing education spaces throughout British Columbia in this time period, an increase of 82 percent. This is so unlike the NDP that…. In the '90s they graduated fewer nurses every year — '92, '93, '94, '95, ' 96, '97, '98, '99, 2000. Every one of those years they graduated fewer nurses in British Columbia. They couldn't read the information, which was out there in the world, saying that we're going to have a shortage of nurses and doctors. They did nothing; we did something. We stand, and we do what we say we're going to do.

These increases in nursing education spaces have led to the graduation of over 7,500 new nurses in the past five years, including 4, 900 registered nurses, 2,200 practical nurses and over 300 registered psychiatric nurses. I had the privilege of opening, on behalf of the government, a new clinic in Burnaby, the New Canadian Clinic. The clinic was established as part of the Fraser Health's new primary health care network with startup funds provided by the prov ince's health innovation fund. It was great to see it and the number of immigrants that go through this health clinic in Burnaby.

I was there at the original pla nning meeting about three years ago and have supported it all the way along. I can tell you the response from members of my riding has been overwhelming. This valuable innovation ensures that all members of our community have access to the appropriate and timely medical care. New immigrants to British Columbia choose Burnaby as their home. It is not un usual for new immigrants to rely heavily on emergency services for health care del i v e r y a s i t c a n b e d i f f i c ult to access primary health services while they get settled in their new community.

The clinic addresses these problems by integrating health services with social supports of the immigrant network in Burnaby and demonstrates the positive steps currently underway to meet the provincial objectives of improved community health care services. So we have the Fraser Health Authority, which is a partner of the innovative fund from the province of British Columbia, and we have social groups led by Jeanne Fike of the Burnaby Family Life Institute. Burnaby is now one of the largest communities within the Fraser Health Au thority.

Burnaby Hospital experiences 54,000 emergency triage visits a year and provides a full range of services, including surgical, acute, residential care to the community. There have been considerable upgrades, new facilities and additions to Burnaby Hospital. Our go vernment has recognized the needs of the hospital and taken proactive steps to improve health care in Burnaby. [1050]

9778 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 In 2002 a specialized pediatric urgent care clinic opened. In 2003 there was a large mental health department relocation and upgrade. In 2004 there was an addictions relocation and upgrade to all patient services, with renovations of the old Cascade building. Relocation and renovation in 2004 of transitional care increased its beds from 29 to 42, and on cology enabled an increase of 6,000 out-patient visits to that unit per year. Improvements in the restorative care unit also happened in 2004.

Planning is underway for emergency department waiting room and triage centre renovations and upgrades, expected to st art early this year and be completed by the end of the year. Surgical programs have expanded with the opening of a sixth operating room. Burnaby Hospital has led the Fraser Health in hip and knee replacements performed. The fall prevention and hip protector program has cut hip fracture rates by 80 percent over the past four years. All these good things that are happening in health care, and what's going on.

Again I look at the newspa- per, and it says: "B.C. health plans raise critic's pulse rate." I believe it should raise the pulse rate of the NDP Health critic because of all the great things we're doing, all the things that we said we would do and that we actually complete — not complaining and whining and negative on and on. He has never had a positive word to say. The NDP and the Health critic are ag ainst expanded nurses and nurses having an expanded role of practice. We're for it. They're against new doctors coming into British Columbia. We support it.

They're against pharmacists doing additional prescriptions and other work and expansion of service provided. They're against it. We're for it. You know, they're against paramedics releasing patients and doing additional work. We're for it. The NDP is against it. I am proud to stand here and support this throne speech, because we move forward in a positive attitude. We are looking at new ways of accomplishing and trying to provide the best health care service in British Columbia and in Canada. I support it. The NDP is against it. Over the last year we've been helping B.C. seniors stay independent.

We've launched the Premier's Council on Aging and Seniors Issues to examine the coming demographic shift in the province and how to support seniors' independence and health. We provided $4.2 million for 411 senior centre societies to purchase and maintain their own heritage buildings.

The throne speech speaks of establishing ActNow seniors community parks throughout the province and exploring the possibility of establishing new independent living savings accounts, which will allow citizens up to the age of 75 to invest in tax-sheltered savings accounts for home care support, assi sted independent housing and supported housing options. You know, we're for it. The member for Skeena, who spoke previously, is against it. We're for it. They're against it. We want to move forward. They only want to move backward.

Our government is reviewing our court sentencing — I'm going to change a little bit now — in determining why sentences here tend to be shorter for crimes such as theft, homicide, property crimes, fraud, impaired driving and drug possession. That information will be used to create a community safety strategy by the fall to ensure that we have safe communities. We need to face challenges of poverty, mental health, mental illness and addiction.

We will complete and update the ten-year mental health plan, ensuring that those with severe mental illness who require intensive and sustained treatment are cared for in new and existing facilities at Willingdon on south Canada Way and at the Riverview lands in Coquitlam. Also, a new multi-year investment will be made in revitalizing the downtown east side. The B.C. government provides 100 percent of traffic fine revenues to municipalities to reinvest in public safety. This past year alone, Burnaby was given $2.7 million.

The province has unveiled its latest tool in the fight against crystal meth: a $3 million school-based program, a public education campaign called no2meth. Information for parents, students and teachers can be found by visiting the www.no2meth.ca website. [1055] In 2006, in the provincial budget, this government committed an additional $2 million to base funding over three years to health authorities to continue targeted treatment programs for crystal meth users. This funding bolstered programs and serv ices targeting substance abuse and addiction.

You know, I heard a speech the other day that 40 or 50 years ago the worst that some members would do was nothing compared to what's available to youth today. It's just so destructive — the drugs that are available — that it was never there in the past. The throne speech introduc ed us to LiveSmart B.C. The new LiveSmart initiative will reward smart choices and create competitive advantages of higher productivity, lower costs, less waste and higher-quality products for our industries. Consumers will get new tools to help conserve energy and save money.

We will pursue a goal of zero net deforestation and launch a Trees for Tomorrow program to plant trees in public spaces across the province. Initiatives like the Pacific carbon trust will foster economic growth while enhancing our environment as we move toward our goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 33 percent by 2020. This ties in nicely with another area that our province is moving forward in, in the fight against climate change: transportation. This is extremely important to my riding of Burquitlam and to the pr ovince. The B.C. Liberals have unveiled an aggressive, all-encompassing transit plan.

In the entire history of the province…. In fact, this is the most ambitious mass transportation plan in Canada, and we should all take great pride in that. By investing a proposed $14 billion in infrastructure, buses and new expanded SkyTrain lines, our government is providing a commitment to improving the lifestyle and transit options available in this province. It is an ambitious goal to reduce greenhouse gases and protect our environment for future generations.

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES 9779 Twinning the Port Mann Bridge, expanding bus lanes, adding new buses to the Burnaby–Metro Vancouver fleet — all these are important strategies that result in more reliable, fast, green tr ansit. The Evergreen line is expected to be completed by 2014 and will connect Coquitlam Centre to Lougheed Town Centre and, in turn, to the Millennium and Expo lines. These improvements will serve to make public transit convenient and affordable. Here are the facts about taking transit in the Burquitlam riding as they stand today.

The regular two-zone fare, Burnaby to Vancouver is $3.75 each way or $99 a month. From Coquitlam, three-zone or all-zone, it's $5 one way or $136 for a monthly pass. You know, when you start to break that down, regular transit users who purchase monthly passes pay, on average, $6.80 a day to travel through all zones. Another perk of the monthly fare card is the fact that they are tax deducti- ble by the federal government. Let's compare driving to transit. Consider that you pay up to $20 a day alone to park in downtown Vancouver in a safe indoor parking lot. That's $800 a month.

Add this to your car insurance for driving to work, the cost of gas and maintenance. With the new B.C. Liberal provincial tran sit plan, our government is making the provincewide improvements to transportation that will position B.C. in line with the likes of London and Paris. The aim is to provide a balanced transit response that meets the needs of communities and passengers while doubling ridership, wi th more frequent, reliable transit service in high-growth urban centres like Metro Vancouver, Burnaby and Coquitlam.

The Gateway program includes three components: the Port Mann Bridge Highway 1 project; the south perimeter road project; and the North Fraser perimeter road project, including th e Pitt River Bridge and the Mary Hill bypass. The Gateway improvements mean there will be transit service across the Port Mann Bridge for the first time in 20 years. [S. Hammell in the chair.] It's our Transportation Ministry that's had a vision and that's been looking at all of British Columbia. But you know, most of the people live in the lower mainland and the Victoria area , so we have this vision.

The express bus service will be connected directly to HOV lanes and will not mix with general traffic. Travel time for the full trip between Langley and Burnaby will be less than 25 minutes, as fast as or faster than by car. [1100] The Gateway program will establish cycling and transit opportunities across the corridor. It includes a $50 million cycling investment, the largest single investment in cycling infrastructure in British Columbia. Gateway will re-establish transit across the newly twinned Port Mann Bridge.

There are so many good times and so little time to talk about them all, but part of our throne speech was about early education and al lowing four-year-olds and three-year-olds to come into the schools. This is going to go to a special group to be reviewed. I support that. I'm excited, because we have empty classrooms in all our schools because of the reduction of the growth of our population. I see these programs being run by non-profits. They're in the schools. Th ey're running a day care — all-day day care, after-school day care — but we have them with non-profits running them.

I think we can get it up and running even soon er than when we talked about. I'm excited about expand ing our schools and where we're going. We also have the StrongStart schools. I've been at a number of the openings, and one was in my riding, Roy Stibbs School. It is a buzz of activity there every day. I would have to mention, because things are going so great, that we will have the 2009 World Police and Fire Games in British Columbia. They'll be in Burnaby, the lower mainland and Whis tler.

What an economic boon that will be to the lower mainland — 15,000 police, fire and security services personnel; 25,000 family members; and over $100 million into the economy. That's because of two firefighters, Jeff Clark and Miles Ritchie, who had the guts to start it about four or five years ago. We're just putting the final touches now on what will be the best games ever for the World Police and Fire Games. I want to be explicitly clear. I want to make sure that there's no doubt abou t where I stand and where my constituents have advised me to stand.

They said: "Stand up and support the throne speech." My belief is that it's the best throne speech we've ever had. When we came into government in 2001, we inherited a mess and economic indignities. We as a province had been reduced from the number one province in all of Canada to last place. We were relegated to putting our hand out and asking for ha ndouts. Despite everything that British Columbia has, we were a handout. We were given money. When we got elected, the first thing we did was cut income taxes for people by 25 percent.

We are putting dollars in people's pockets, while the NDP are committed to taking dollars out. Interjections. Deputy Speaker: Members, members. H. Bloy: Every taxpaying citizen of this province got money back when we reduced personal income taxes. We are for letting individuals spend money — not like the NDP, who want the money. They want to spend it. They don't think the citizens know how to spend it. They want it. We believe they can do it. When we came into government in 2001, youth unemployment was at the highest rate ever, over 17 percent. We've now reduced that to 7 percent. You know, we are for youth.

We do things for youth. They're against youth. The NDP is against supporting youth in this province. Let's look at women. Over 176,000 new jobs have been created for women in British Columbia since 2001.

9780 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 Today over one million women are working in this province, the highest level ever. [1105] Since 2005 our government has been working with first nations and Métis organizations and has focused on building capacity so th at all first nations people and communities can benefi t from the economic and employment opportunities currently available in British Columbia. In 2001 there were 930,000 people working for small business, and there were 33 7,000 small businesses in British Columbia.

Today there are over a million people working in small businesses in British Columbia, and the small business numbers have increased by 11 percent. We have heard the other side of the House criticize because they know they are for big government and we're not for big government. We are for regulatory reform. They're against regu lation reform. They just want to add more and more regulations to tie up business. They tied up business. By the end of the '90s it was being choked to death. They choked small business to death. They choked the mini ng industry to death in British Columbia. Interjection. H.

Bloy: Let's just talk a little bit about taxes and putting money in people's pockets. The member for Vancouver-Fairview says that you can't increase spending and not increase taxes. Well, we know that side of the House is for increasing taxes. That's what they're all about. They stan d up, and that's what we're for. We know they're against letting individuals keep more money in their pockets. We 're for lowering personal income taxes, and we've done it twice. We have this throne speech, and we're going to vote on it.

How can anybody vote against the commitment to upgrade the expansion of B.C.'s Children's Hospital? I'll tell you that I'm going to vote for the expansion of B.C. hospital. The NDP is going to vote against it. How can anybody vote against nurses delivering more services in British Columbia? I am going to stand up and vote for nurses delivering more services. The NDP will vote against servicing more…. H. Lali: I stand here in this debate to take my turn to speak on the throne speech. Interjection. H. Lali: Yes, you may heckle me all you want. The more heckling, the merrier. I like it that way.

Anyway, I stand here to speak against the throne speech. Unlike the member wh o spoke just before me, who is in enthusiastic suppo rt of this, I'm not. There are quite a few reasons for that. First of all, when you look at this throne speech…. I guess it's probably the Liberals' commitment to recycling, because they're repackaging and recycling announcements that have already been made — made twice and three times, repeated four times — over and over again in the last number of years. They make no commitment in terms of actually carrying ou t those promises, but they make promises to make more promises.

That's what you find in this throne speech. It's nothing but recycling old promises and making announcements on old announcements that were already made two, three, four times previously . That's their commitment. It's all a repackaging. Put a few new fancy words attached to it, and then put it forward again. That's what they're doing. There's nothing in here that's earth-shattering. There's nothing in here that is actually going to help average British Columbians, the lower- and middle-income earners of this province. There's no commitment to that.

There's nothing earth-shattering in this throne speech that was written in the Premier's offi ce and presented here last week. There's nothing. There is one thing that is in this document, and that is the admission of failure by this Liberal government over the last seven years they've been in office. This is a clear admission of failure on a number of fronts, not because of what it has in here but rather what it refuses to put in the throne speech, what it refuses to do on behalf of average British Columbians.

If you travel throughout the province, you will see the myriad problems out there that are being exacerbated by the rule of this Premier and the B.C. Liberals over the last seven years. [1110] Let's take a look at child poverty. There's nothing in this throne speech except an admission of failure on that whole issue of child poverty. Since the Liberals took office seven years ago, child poverty rates are the highest of any province in the country. They went from the lowest in 2001 to the highest of any province. This is something that members opposite are proud of? Then you look at homelessness as well.

That's the same story all over again. There's a 150 percent increase in homelessness. People have been shoved out of their homes. People who are mental health patients aren't getting help. They're living out on the streets because there's nowhere to go. You've even found, when you look across British Columbia, that this government has closed transition homes for women. First they cut the welfare rates. Then they tried to put it back and say: "Oh, yeah. Look at us. We increased welfare rates." Well, you cut them in the first place. You're putting people out on the street, and there's nowhere to go.

There are no programs in place, nowhere for folks to meet to be able to deal with their problems. In the middle of winter a couple years back we had people literally freezing in the middle of winter because they had no place to go. That's the reality. They can find a whole lot of money to put into the Sea to Sky Highway and into Gateway and other projects in the lower mainland, but they can't find small pockets of money to be able to actually help people and get those rolls of homelessness down. Health care is another admission of failure by the Liberals.

Basically, what the Liberal pronouncements — and what's here in the throne speech coming from

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES 9781 the government side — are saying is that really, you're only going to get reasonable access. The responsibility is yours as an individual, and this government is going to do nothing to actually reduce wait-lists. It's not going to do anything to reinst ate services, programs and health care that they had cut across British Columbia, especially in rural communities, small communities like the small communities in Yale-Lillooet. They're not going to do anything.

As a matter of fact, that access to health care for people who lived in those small communities and the outlying areas of communiti es like Merritt, Princeton, Logan Lake, Hope, Lillooet and other communities in my constituency…. They had access to health care in those small communities. It has been pulled out and concentrated in communities like Kamloops, Kelowna and Abbotsford and in others like Victoria and Vancouver. They can't get access to health care.

When they made those massive cuts to health care, the Liberals — between the years 2001 and 2004, when they made those massive cuts to health care and education and social…. B. Lekstrom: Tell the truth. Tell the truth. H. Lali: Hon. Speaker, I think the member opposite is impugning my reputation. I ask the hon. member to withdraw his remarks. B. Lekstrom: I can't withdraw the truth. Deputy Speaker: Members, I am listening to the debate, and what I would advise you to be is very courteous to each other. H. Lali: I think the courteous thing for him to have done was actually to withdraw his remarks.

Since he's not going to withdraw his remarks, hon. Speaker, I can only tell you that, from this side, when we say things, the truth really hurts members opposite. That's the problem. The truth hurts that member. My good friend from Peace River South can't handle the truth. As I was saying, the massive cuts to health…. Interjection. Deputy Speaker: Member. Member. Just so that we're clear and fair, I've ruled on the matter, and it's over. H. Lali: No problem.

I'll continue on, despite the heckling of my friend from Peace River South. [1115] In any case, as I was saying before I was rudely interrupted by members opposite, the fact of the matter is that the Liberals, when they took office, between the years 2001 and 2004, made massive cuts to health care services and programs, especially in rural British Columbia. They closed hospitals all over British Columbia. They cut wings out of hospitals. They pulled out services. They pulled them out of communities like Lytton. They actually were going to shut down the hospital and not rebuild it in the community of Lytton.

What they had promised to do…. They actually put a phone booth in there, with a toll-free number to call in case you got into an accident on the highway in the Fraser Canyon. When people were phoning that number, they were put on hold for anywhere from 30 minutes to two hours. That was their idea of health care. The fact is that they took health care out of those small rural communities in this province and concen- trated it into the larger urban centres in rural British Columbia and into Victoria and Vancouver. That's the reality.

There were cuts made to health care in Merritt, in Princeton, in Lytton, in Lillooet. In Ashcroft they closed that hospital down and turned it into a diagnostic treatment centre. That's their idea of health care. If that's not a cut, I don't know what it is. That's the reality in this province — the massive cuts to health care under this government. And this document is nothing but an admission of that failure on their part. The Liberals had promised , that Premier across the way had promised, when he took office in 2001….

Oh, after they actually gave away the store, the $1½ billion in tax breaks to large corporations and the wealthiest people in this province…. After they had given away the treasury, the store, and cr eated the largest deficit in the history of this province, $3.5 billion…. It was under that government in the year 2004. They did it. But the promise the Premier made at that time was: "When the budget is balanced, we will put those services back." Well, he has not done that. The budget sits at a $4.1 billion surplus, and yet we've got massive, mas- sive cuts to health, education and social services in this province.

The Premier has promised to put that money back, and he has failed to do so in their third successive balanced budget now, and there are record surpluses. Hon. Speaker, you get the wealthiest in this province, the large corporations, who are continuing to get tax give- aways from this province. Yet people in my community and communities all throughout the province…. In northern British Columbia, the north Island, in the K o o t e n a y s , i n t h e C a r i b o o , i n t h a t m e m b e r ' s r i d i n g i n Peace River South and also Peace River North, they're suffering.

They can't get access to health care in their communities because of the cuts that were made by this Liberal Premier and the Liberal government, and they've refused to acknowledge that. I'll tell you one thing. This document, the throne speech, is nothing but an admission of failure on the part of the Liberals. It's right here in this, because they've refused to put that money back. You know, it's also an admission by the Liberals that they are going to continue to abandon rural British Columbia when it comes to actually divvying out the goodies in this province. I want to talk about….

There are a couple of lines in the throne speech about first nations and all of this foofy stuff that the Liberals put in, in terms of reconciliation and all this sort of stuff. But when you talk to aboriginal people, when you talk to th e aboriginal leadership in this province, they will tell you that it's just mere words. There's no action behind those words.

9782 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 The first nations of this prov ince, in an era of prosperity, are still waiting, because it isn't happening on reserves. It is not happening for fi rst nations people, who are continuing to be denied thei r rightful place in society. T h e y c o n t i n u e t o b e d e p r i v e d o f e d u c a t i o n a l a n d employment opportunities in this province.

If any one of these Liberals wants to go around the province and tour those aboriginal reserves, they will find the highest unemployment rates — perhaps some of the highest — on reserves anywhere in the province. And match that with anywhere in the country even, because they are not feeling the prosperity that they're talking about. They're not the ones that are getting access to education and employment opportunities. When the metal hits the road, that's what it's all about. It's about how many educational and employment opportunities are being shared with aboriginal people in this province. That's where… I.

Black: …the rubber hits the road. [1120] H. Lali: The rubber hits the road. Thank you very much. You're getting me too excited, hon. Member. When the rubber hits the road — that's what it is. When the rubber hits the road and you look at it…. The aboriginal people are saying to members opposite: "What have you done for us?" They don't have an answer because they haven't. Aboriginal people continue to be denied by this Liberal government in terms of access. Really, I talked about health care. You've got at least 50 percent of the aboriginal people who are living on reserves all throughout rural British Columbia.

When they deny access to health care to rural British Columbians, they are denying access to he alth care to aboriginal people, because most of those aboriginal people in rural British Columbia live on reserve, not in communities. So their access to health care is even further than those of non-aboriginal people who actually live in the communities in rural British Columbia. Hon. members across the way stand up here and take credit for supposedly doing all these great and wonderful things on behalf of environments and parks.

There's a figure in he re that the Liberals across the way pound and thump their chests and brag about from the rooftops to say, "We've got 14 percent of this province that is in parklands now" — 14 percent, as they're saying. Well, hallelujah. When they formed government, they actually realized there's an environment out there and there are parks that need to be created. What they refuse to tell you is that when the NDP was in office, we took the area that was protected in parklands from 6 percent….

We had promised to do 12 percent, double it — according to the Brundtland report of the United Nations — but it was 12.5 percent. We did it. We created the parks. We're the ones who brought in the environmental legislation, and these guys across the way are trying to take credit for the work that the New Democratic government of the 1990s did on this side. Shame on you. Shame on you, Liberals, for trying to take credit for work that you didn't even do. I can't believe it.

They continue to take credit for things that they didn't even do, and then they turn around and say that their forestry management and their practices for environmental management are the best in the world. When we brought in legislation to protect the environment, to bring in forestry practices, these guys voted against it. Now they're sitting there on the other side bragging about stuff that they didn't even do. I can't believe it. They can't even try to take credit for stuff that they've done. They're trying to take credit for stuff they didn't even do. Shame on them. They voted against it.

Time and time again when it came to forestry practices or environmental management or parks, those individuals across the way that were on this side of the House got up one after the other, one by one, and voted against it. Now they're trying to take credit for stuff that they didn't even do. What a shame. At least they could stand up there on that side and say: "Look at the NDP work. They did all this. It was a good thing to do." Oh, no. They're not going to say that. They're trying to take credit for stuff that we did.

What you find is that last year the Premier had the balloons flowing, the ribbons and all those party hats and stuff like that when he made this grand announcement on greenhouse gas reduction, the climate change and all of that stuff. It actually followed two weeks after our leader on our side and our Environment critic and our Forests critic…. They were there for the announce- ment of a green plan for British Columbia, which we had presented.

The Premier, on the other side, realized: "Hey, this could be a winning issue for me." So he gets together his band and his hoopla, and he makes this grand announcement last year. But you know what? He didn't put any money into it. There was no plan, there was no strategy, and there were no targets. Here we are over a year later, and still he's trying to repackage that same hoopla and the bandstanding that he did 14 months back. He's trying to do it again. Interjection. H. Lali: Grandstanding, bandstanding — same difference. Hoopla, party atmosphere. That's what the Premier tried to do. Interjection. H.

Lali: You didn't get a hat. The hon. member didn't get a hat. Would somebody please get the hon. member a hat, because he didn't get his hat? He wants his hat. [1125] The one thing the Premier is doing is imposing a carbon tax. He's going to impose a carbon tax on carbon fuels. The Minister of Finance sits there saying: "Oh, it's revenue-neutral." But where's the neutrality? When you impose a tax on somebody…. Neutrality really means that you give the equivalent amount back somewhere

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES 9783 where somebody is doing something that's going to help the environment. That's what revenue neutrality is. All it is, is just a shameless tax grab by a money- hungry government. That's all that the Liberals have done. Let's get on to forestry again. I'm back at forestry. It's our number one industry in this province. A lot of people in my constituency and the constituencies opposite, especially those rural members — Peace River South is another one of them — depend on forestry. But you know what has happened?

By 2001 in some areas of this province ther e was a 15-year backlog in terms of reforestation under a previous Social Credit government. But we got rid of that entire backlog by the year 1998. It was done. The backlog had all been cleared. The Liberals have now, ag ain, created another backlog in this province in terms of how much reforestation has to be done. Through their own admission in this document, they say there' s a 700,000-hectare backlog. That's what they're admitting right now. What's their answer to figure out all of this? It says Trees for Tomor- row. That's what these members opposite are saying.

You know what? Here's what they're going to do: a new Trees for Tomorrow program would launch a large urban afforestation initiative. Millions of trees will be planted. Where will they be planted? In back yards, school yards, hospital grounds, civic parks, campuses, parking lots and other public spaces across B.C. They forgot one item in here. They forgot one item to include. What's that, you ask? They forgot our forests. It lists everything elsewhere they're going to do it — Trees for Tomorrow — but they forgot the one area where they should be replanting trees. It's our forests. They do say something in here.

They say they're going to plant 60 million seedlings — it's on page 21 — over the next four years. What does that translate to? Eighty-six trees per hectare. This room is a lot smaller than a hectare. If you put 83 trees…. According to the rules of replanting, the silv iculture industry, you could probably put 86 trees in half of this room. It's maybe about 1/20 of a hectare, maybe even less than that. Eighty-six trees per hectare. But where are they putting them? Back yards, school yards, parks, campuses and all that sort of stuff. But th ey forget that they've got to put trees in our forests.

The other major item that I want to talk about is what the Premier had announced about a month, a month and a half back, and they brag about it in here. They said that we are going to have the most massive expansion of our transit program ever in the history of this province. What they said is that they're going to spend $14 billion. Mind you, what they — the Premier and the Minister of Transportation — forgot to tell people in British Columbia is that $4½ billion of that was already announced. Remember what I said about the Liberals' commit- ment to recycling? It's repackaging and recycling old announcements.

A third of those announcements are actually already announcements that were made once, twice, three, four times over the last seven years by this same Liberal government. So they made that again. Let's say it's about $10 b illion. But there are a number of things they forgot. First of all, where's the money? They don't tell you where the money's going to come from. But what they are hoping is: "Oh well, we'll get some money from the federal government.

We'll get the municipal and the regional district entity to put in some money, and we'll put in some money ourselves." Well, the municipalities and the regional districts weren't consulted on this. They didn't even know about it. The federal government wasn't consulted either. They didn't know anything about it. It was just an imaginary plan — a plan in the imagination of the Premier. The money was going to somehow come from some imaginary place, like from regional and municipal governments and the federal government, but there's no commitment where the money's going to come from. [1130] That was the one thing.

The other thing that the Premier forgot…. He says that this transit announcement is going to put in a SkyTrain, commuter rail, buses, these new super buses. Where are they all going to go? The Premier says they're going to go to the lower mainland, to Victoria and to Kelowna. I ask the Premier: is there not a British Columbia beyond those three major urban centres in this province?

When you look at the constituency of Yale-Lillooet, with its 30,000 square kilometres, seven municipalities, four regional districts, 29 independent first nations, and probably a total of about a hundred communities nestled all over the 30,000 square kilometres…. What's in it for my constituents? Well, I couldn't find mentioned anywhere in the Premier's announcement a community that was in my constituency. The fact of the matter is that in this Premier's imaginary $14 billion announcement, my constituents are going to get an imaginary zero in funding. That's it — zero in terms of funding. There is no benefit.

Yet when you look at rural British Columbia…. Rural British Columbia, through its resources economy, generates most of the wealth in this province. We make such a huge contribution to the treasury here in Victoria, and out of that imaginary $14 billion announcement by the Premier, we get a big fat zero for the constituency in Yale-Lillooet. It repeats itself. Whether it's Cariboo South, Cariboo North, Peace River North, Peace River South — constituen- cies of members opposite — Buckley Valley–Stikine, all of these constituencies…. Some Hon. Members: Bulkley. L. Mayencourt: Buckley is the cough syrup. An Hon.

Member: It tastes bad, but it works. H. Lali: But it works. You guys are watching way too much TV. Backbenchers on the Liberal side: you have way too much time on your hands. While the members opposite are drinking Buckley's syrup, I want to point out to you, hon. Speaker, that they're not getting any Buckley's syrup from the Transportation

9784 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 Minister or from the Premie r when it comes to this imaginary $14 billion transit announcement. Where are they? How co me they're not voicing their concerns? How come they're not standing up here alongside the rural Democrat MLAs on this side of the House? How come they're not standing up beside us and joining forces with us and demanding from the Premier: "Where's the money? Where's the beef? Where's the beef for rural British Columbia? Where's the money for us?

Where are the transportation needs?" A true transportation infrastructure plan would have included other items such as ferries, rail and airports. And, oh yes, the one ve ry, very important thing — which I don't think is very important to the Premier, except when he's dealing with the Greater Vancouver area…. Except for that, he's forgotten that there are roads and bridges all across rural British Columbia.

The rural British Columbia that generates the wealth and that needs those roads and bridges for all of those trucks that bring in all of the coal, the ore, the lumber, the logs, the gravel and everything, they need an effective transportation system as well. The Premier somehow forgot about roads and bridges. Where are most of those roads and bridges? They're in rural British Columbia. The Premier abandoned rura l British Columbia right from day one when he took office, and all he offered to the people of rural British Columbia was: "I am going to have a heartlands strategy." We found out what that strategy was.

It was massive cuts to our health, education and social services. It was the neglect of our transportation infrastructure. It was the de liberate dismantling of the forest industry by this Premier. He has turned his heartlands into the hurtlands; that's what the Premier has done. He's forgotten. He's abandoned rural British Columbia. He's abandoned rural British Columbia when it comes to health care. He's abandoned rural British Columbia where we're still continuing to get closures for schools. The Liberals have closed the school in Hedley as of June 30 coming up — the small school that was there.

They have closed over 130 sc hools across this province, and still counting. It continues to this day. That's what this Liberal government is doing. It's abandoning the educational aspirations of the people of rural British Columbia. [1135] It is abandoning the forest industry, because it has refused to do anything about the pine beetle infestation that has taken place. It is devastating our forest industry. It is devastating small towns across rural British Columbia.

You've got so many people that are moving because this Liberal government, through its neglect and abandonment of rural British Columbia, has allowed 45 sawmills to close in this province. Never in the history of British Columbia have we ever had this many jobs eliminated in the forest industry. Never have we ever had this many mills closed in a period of time in British Columbia as we have under this Liberal Premier and this Liberal government. That's the reality. It's the abandonment of rural British Columbia. Now, I talked about health care earlier.

What's happen- ing now is that the Liberals are doing nothing to bring doctors into some of those communities where they need doctors. The community of Princeton is a prime example. The Liberals are doing nothing to attract new doctors into that community. Now they're planning to close the emer- gency room in the hospital in Princeton, and it's a shame. If you leave Hope, when you're driving down from Vancouver through the interior on Highway 3, it's 135 kilometres from Hope to Princeton, and they want to close down the emergency room at the Princeton hospital. What a shame.

It repeats itself in community after community after community in rural British Columbia, because this Liberal government continues to abandon rural British Columbia. It ought to be ashamed. So when you talk about this transit plan, there is no money for the transportation infrastructure of rural British Columbia, with the sole exception of three or four pet projects that they're putting into their ridings. An Hon. Member: Kicking Horse Pass. H. Lali: With the exception of that — Kicking Horse — because the federal government has come up with the money to match it. That's the reason that's happening.

Other than that, they have abandoned rural British Columbia. It's a shame. It's a real shame. I don't know why it is that these members opposite, especially my Liberal colleagues from rural British Columbia, are getting up in this House one after the other and saying how proud they are of this throne speech and how great it is, when all that has happened is the clear abandonment of rural British Columbia.

I ask my colleagues across the way, specifically my friends from the Maple Ridge area and people up in the north and my friend from Peace River South, to stand up, join the New Democrat s, join us on this side of the House, and tell the Premier that you're not going to take the abandonment of rural British Columbia anymore. I know if I stand here for another half an hour, I can convince some of my friends opposite. They are willing to come forward, and they will. All they need is a little bit more debate. I can just see the member opposite.

If they would stand up and join the New Democratic MLAs and put the pressure on the Premier so that he stops abandoning rural B.C. That's what he has to do and what these members have to do. Just join us, stand up for rural B.C. for once in your political lives. I tell you, you're abandoning rural B.C. Anyway, I will be standing up when the vote is going to take place, and I will be voting against the throne speech. Deputy Speaker: Members, before I recognize the member for Vancouver-Burrard, I would just like to remind all members that there are no props to be used in the House.

I notice the throne speech has been used from all sides, and I advise you not to. L. Mayencourt: The member for Yale-Lillooet has always been and continues to this day to be a hard act

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES 9785 to follow, but I'm grateful for the time that I have right now to be able to speak to not just my constituents but to other people in the province and to the people in this chamber. First off, we have a new Lieutenant-Governor in British Columbia. Steven Point took over from Iona Campagnolo just a few weeks ago.

Last night, we — members of the opposition, members of government — all took the opportunity to join him for dinner at his home, and I want to thank him very, very much for the true honour that that was. [1140] Madam Speaker, when the Lieutenant-Governor got up to speak — and I know you were there with us — he instantly revealed to us the kind of man that he is. He's a humanitarian. He cares about kids. He cares about our province. He cares about first nations. He is our first Lieutenant-Governor to have first nations heritage.

He has a strong sense of justice and a great, great deal of compassion for the people in British Columbia that sit on the margins — the folks that are vulnerable, that have not yet been welcomed or felt themselves being welcomed into society. I really enjoyed his sense of humour as well as the very compassionate things that he had to say about those people. I also want to start by thanking the people of Vancouver-Burrard. Vancouve r-Burrard is my riding, and it has been for the last seven years.

I want to tell you what a great honour it has been to represent the people of the West End, Coal Harbour, Concord Pacific, the downtown south. All areas of my community have just been a joy to work with. I really feel so fortunate to be able to do that and, in the hustle and bustle of the days that we live in, have an opportunity. We have a community that stops and has coffee together and talk s on the street and helps little old ladies cross the street — all of those sorts of things. I'm very, very proud of my community.

I'm proud of the organizations that serve my community, like the West End Seniors Network, the West End Citizens' Action Network and many, many others that have really reached out to our community and filled gaps as volunteers. They've come forward and said: "You know what? We want to make our community safer. We want to make it more friendly. We want to make it greener. We want to make it more reflective of who we are culturally." Those people go out every day and do that sort of stuff. It's a great honour to be in this House and be representing those individuals here in this chamber and to have some….

Maybe it's a little bit of bragging rights to the fact that I represent probably the best riding in the whole province of British Columbia. Interjections. L. Mayencourt: There are a lot of seconds here that are moaning. I also want to thank my staff. The member for Burquitlam, just a few minutes ago when he was speaking, acknowledged the fact that there are legislative assistants here in this building. There are research officers. There are communications people. I have two Sarahs that work for me in that department. I've also got my LA, who is Kevin Dixon.

In my office in Vancouver, I have Cris Garvey, Diane Rogers and Craig Jangula — all of them working very, very hard for the people of Vancouver-Burrard and also working with me on things that are important to me as an individual but also as a politician. When we listened to the Speech from the Throne, I was so delighted because almost with the first paragraph we started on a project that I was really passionate about and I really wanted to see go forward. That is a project called Stehiyaq, which is going to happen in the Tzeachten band's traditional territories, part of the Stó:lô Nation. Hon. B.

Penner: Also known as the riding of Chilliwack- Kent. L. Mayencourt: Also known as the riding of Chilliwack- Kent, which I think is the second-best riding in the province. An Hon. Member: Oh, you're digging a hole. L. Mayencourt: Okay, it is a bit gratuitous. I'll stop. I really want to say that I was very touched when I saw Chief Joe Hall here in the chamber and when the very first paragraph talked about the province making a significant contribution to the creation of Stehiyaq. What is Stehiyaq? Stehiyaq is a therapeutic community for first nations people that's going to be a healing centre.

It's located in the beautiful Chilliwack valley. I've been out there. I've had the tour from the first nations band that has been trying to put this together for the last couple of years. Chief among those, of course, was Joe Hall. It was very wonderful to be out there. There's something magical about Centre Creek, which is where this is located. It's an old prison that was decommissioned several years ago. Sometimes when people think about old prisons, they think about the scary parts — the bad history of it.

When you walk onto Centre Creek and the Stehiyaq property, you recognize almost immediately the healing qualities of it. There's a river that runs through it where individuals from the first nations band will jump right in, in the middle of winter, to cleanse and heal themselves. You can feel that kind of vibe and energy in that place. I really was delighted to see that happening. [1145] You know, I've talked many times in this chamber about therapeutic communiti es and the value and the new lessons that we can learn from those particular examples that are most notably located in central Europe.

I think that when we look at treatment communities or therapeutic communities, it's not just about addictions. It's about a whole host of things. It's about having a holistic approach to dealing with people with a number of challenges — for example, those with mental health issues.

9786 B RITISH COLUMBIA DEBATES T UESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2008 I could see very soon the possibility of not just tossing our people with mental i llness onto the streets but actually building a community in which they feel very welcome, where they are co ntributing, where they're doing something important with their lives, where they feel as if they are loved an d cared for. That is what a therapeutic community offers. I think that we have to really concentrate on some of the messages.

We've been talking for the last little while about Riverview in this chamber, and I think it's a brilliant, brilliant discussion that we're having. I think it's time for us to recognize that mental health institutions are not what we saw in One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest . They can be very humane, very caring, very clean, very safe places for individuals that are battling whatever demons they have, trying to find stability in their life so that they can be part of society. That's the direction that we need to be heading in. I am very, very encouraged by the discussion around Riverview.

I know that there are members here that feel very passionate ab out ensuring that that is reserved for people who are in the recovery stages from mental illness, and I support that 150 percent. I think the site of Riverview is so gorgeous. It is such a place of beauty, it has so many wonderful trees and calm places to walk and sit, and all of that makes for a really wonderful environment down there. I've been to Riverview a few times, and I've seen the new approach that we're taking at Riverview with mental health housing accommodation there. They've built a couple of cottages there.

One of them is Connolly h o u s e . I w a n t t o t e l l y o u , M a d a m S p e a k e r , t h a t i t ' s a wonderful thing, because it's creating a community within a building. Instead of having, you know, hundreds of people on a ward, there are 15 people that live in one of these lodges. They all have access to their own laundry services. They all have acce ss to a community kitchen. Yes, they have someone there that does cook for them, but they also…. If they want to make popcorn, they can make popcorn. If they want to have pizza on a Friday night, they can put one in the oven and away they go kind of thing.

We are helping people in those kinds of settings become more and more independent. It is a wonderful way to create a community. They have a central hub and then five wings, if you will, that come out from there. People don't sleep in hospital beds there. They sleep in beds. They sleep in normal beds, the kinds that you and I have. It's just so much out of what we come to expect out of mental health institutions. The change is happening, and the secret is the community that is created for those people inside of those settings.

I want to talk for a minute about housing, because this has been a really important part of my life. The last little while, the last three or four years, a lot of my focus has really been on housing — housing the homeless, mental health and addictions. I want to talk about housing. The other day we were in Nanaimo, and Gary Korpan — who is the mayor of Nanaimo and a member of the Premier's Task Force on Homelessness, Mental Illness and Addictions — got up to introduce our Premier. I want to tell you, Madam Speaker, the way that he did it resonated so strongly with me that I want to share it with you today.

Over and over again, we hear that when we do not deal with the mentally ill, when we do not deal with the addicted, when we do not deal with the homeless in a compassionate way, it costs people; it costs people's lives. Since 2001 our government — our Housing Minister, our Premier — have led the way on housing across Canada. We've built thousands and thousands of suites for people. Just last month we brought another 1,200 units of social housing together through buying some single- room occupancy hotels on the downtown east side.

All together we've bought 18 of those hotels to provide stability, to give people an option to live in a safe, clean and affordable site. [1150] When Gary Korpan stood up, he said: "You know, when the Premier is here today, when the Housing Minister is here today, these guys aren't just dealing with housing. They are saving lives." Madam Speaker, that is exactly what our ho using strategy is about. That's exactly what we're do ing. That is exactly why we take this new direction with mental illness. This is why we are blazing a new trail, a new model for addic- tions in British Columbia.

It is worth our time and our effort, and I am so proud of those two gentlemen. What they are doing in this province is unprece- dented. There is not a single province in Canada — not Ontario, not Quebec, not anywhere — that is doing anywhere near what we are doing on the housing file. [Mr. Speaker in the chair.] M r . S p e a k e r , i t i s a g r e a t p l e a s u r e t o b e p a r t o f a team that has put that together. Each and every year we have increased — almost doubled — the housing budget, and that is something significant.

It means that thousands and thousands of British Columbians have secure housing for the first time. We're also working on housing at risk. We know that there are folks in our community — single moms, single fathers, people that are vulnerable — who need support to keep the security of their housing. Our rental assistance program is helping thousands of British Columbians provide housing for their kids, making them live in safe places, giving them safe playgrounds and an opportunity to not be stigmatized by th

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