Legislative Assembly Province of New Brunswick Assemblée législative Province du Nouveau-Brunswick JOURNAL OF DEBATES ▪ JOURNAL DES DÉBATS (HANSARD) Daily Sitting 47 Thursday, June 15, 2023 Jour de séance 47 le jeudi 15 juin 2023 Second Session 60th legislature Deuxième session 60e législature Honourable Bill Oliver Speaker Présidence de l’honorable Bill Oliver

CONTENTS Thursday, June 15, 2023 Introduction of Guests Hon. Mr. Hogan, Mrs. Anderson-Mason ............... 1 Ms. Holt ................................................................. 2 Mr. McKee, Mr. Coon ........................................... 3 Statements of Condolence and Congratulation Hon. Ms. Green ...................................................... 3 Ms. Mary Wilson, Mr. Dawson ............................. 4 Mr. J. LeBlanc, Mr. Coon ...................................... 5 Mr. D’Amours, Mr. K. Arseneau ........................... 6 Mr. Legacy, Ms.

Mitton ......................................... 7 Statements by Members Ms. Holt , Mr. Coon ............................................... 8 Mrs. Bockus, Mr. G. Arseneault ............................ 9 Mr. K. Arseneau, Ms. Mary Wilson .................... 10 Mr. Gauvin, Ms. Mitton ....................................... 11 Mr. Turner ............................................................ 12 Oral Questions Government Ms. Holt, Hon. Mr. Hogan ............................... 13 Schools Ms. Holt, Hon. Mr. Hogan ............................... 15 Housing Ms. Holt, Hon. Ms.

Green ................................ 16 Cost of Living Mr. Legacy, Hon. Mr. Steeves ......................... 17 NB Liquor Mr. D’Amours, Hon. Mr. Steeves .................... 18 Communications Mr. D’Amours, Hon. Mr. Higgs ....................... 20 Pay Equity Ms. Thériault, Hon. Mr. Higgs Hon. Ms. Scott-Wallace ................................ 21 Recycling Ms. Mitton, Hon. Mr. Crossman ...................... 23 Energy Efficiency Mr. K. Chiasson, Hon. Mr. Holland ................. 25 Government Ms. Holt, Hon. Mr. Higgs ................................ 27 Point of Order Mr. G.

Arseneault ................................................ 29 Committee Reports Standing Committee on Economic Policy ........... 30 Point of Order Mr. G. Arseneault ................................................ 31 TABLE DES MATIÈRES le jeudi 15 juin 2023 Présentation d’invités L’hon. M. Hogan, Mme Anderson-Mason .............. 1 Mme Holt................................................................. 2 M. McKee, M. Coon .............................................. 3 Déclarations de condoléances et de félicitations L’hon. Mme Green .................................................. 3 Mme Mary Wilson, M.

Dawson .............................. 4 M. J. LeBlanc, M. Coon ......................................... 5 M. D’Amours, M. K. Arseneau ............................. 6 M. Legacy, Mme Mitton .......................................... 7 Déclarations de députés Mme Holt, M. Coon ................................................ 8 Mme Bockus, M. G. Arseneault .............................. 9 M. K. Arseneau, Mme Mary Wilson ..................... 10 M. Gauvin, Mme Mitton ........................................ 11 M.

Turner ............................................................. 12 Questions orales Gouvernement Mme Holt, l’hon. M. Hogan .............................. 13 Écoles Mme Holt, l’hon. M. Hogan .............................. 15 Logement Mme Holt, l’hon. Mme Green ............................. 16 Coût de la vie M. Legacy, l’hon. M. Steeves .......................... 17 Alcool NB M. D’Amours, l’hon. M. Steeves ..................... 18 Communications M. D’Amours, l’hon. M. Higgs ........................ 20 Équité salariale Mme Thériault, l’hon. M. Higgs, l’hon.

Mme Scott-Wallace ............................. 21 Recyclage Mme Mitton, l’hon. M. Crossman ..................... 23 Efficacité énergétique M. K. Chiasson, l’hon. M. Holland .................. 25 Gouvernement Mme Holt, l’hon. M. Higgs ................................ 27 Rappel au Règlement M. G. Arseneault .................................................. 29 Rapports de comités Comité permanent de la politique économique .... 30 Rappel au Règlement M. G. Arseneault .................................................. 31

Notice of Opposition Members’ Business Mr. G. Arseneault ................................................ 31 Government Motions re Business of House Hon. Mr. G.

Savoie .............................................. 31 Bills—Second Reading No. 46, Education Act Debated ............................................................ 32 Recorded Votes —Motion for Second Reading of Bill 46 Carried ......................................................... 36 Bills—Second Reading No. 46, Education Act Second Reading ................................................ 36 Rulings Speaker’s Ruling .................................................. 37 Motions No. 49 Debated ............................................................ 38 Point of Order Mr. G.

Arseneault ................................................ 40 Motions No. 49 Debated ............................................................ 40 Recorded Votes Proposed Amendment to Motion 49 Defeated ..... 67 Motion 49 Carried ................................................ 67 Motions No. 49 Carried .............................................................. 67 Government Motions re Business of House Hon. Mr. G. Savoie .............................................. 68 Bills—Third Reading No. 30,

An Act to Amend the Coroners Act Third Reading ................................................... 68 Motions No. 50 Debated ............................................................ 69 Recorded Votes Proposed Amendment to Motion 50 Adopted ... 114 Amended Motion 50 Carried ............................. 115 Avis d’affaires émanant de l’opposition M. G. Arseneault .................................................. 31 Motions ministérielles relatives aux travaux de la Chambre L’hon. G. Savoie .................................................. 31 Projets de loi—Deuxième lecture No 46,

Loi sur l’éducation Débat ................................................................ 32 Votes par appel nominal —Motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 46 - Adoption ...................... 36 Projets de loi—Deuxième lecture No 46,

Loi sur l’éducation Deuxième lecture.............................................. 36 Décisions Décision du président ........................................... 37 Motions No 49 Débat ................................................................ 38 Rappel au Règlement M. G.

Arseneault .................................................. 40 Motions No 49 Débat ................................................................ 40 Votes par appel nominal Motion 49 - Amendement proposé - Rejet ........... 67 Motion 49 - Adoption .......................................... 67 Motions No 49 Adoption ........................................................... 67 Motions ministérielles relatives aux travaux de la Chambre L’hon. G. Savoie .................................................. 68 Projets de loi—Troisième lecture No 30, Loi modifiant la

Loi sur les coroners Troisième lecture .............................................. 68 Motions No 50 Débat ................................................................ 69 Votes par appel nominal Motion 50 - Amendement proposé - Adoption .. 114 Motion 50 amendée - Adoption ......................... 115

Motions No. 50 Amended Motion Carried ............................... 115 Notice of Opposition Members’ Business Mr. G. Arseneault .............................................. 116 Bills—Third Reading No. 52, Human Organ and Tissue Donation Act Debated .......................................................... 116 Third Reading ................................................. 123 Motions No 50 Motion amendée - Adoption........................... 115 Avis d’affaires émanant de l’opposition M. G. Arseneault ................................................ 116 Projets de loi—Troisième lecture No 52,

Loi sur les dons d’organes et de tissus humains Débat .............................................................. 116 Troisième lecture ............................................ 123

LIST OF MEMBERS BY CONSTITUENCY Second Session of the 60th Legislative Assembly, 2022-2023 Speaker: Hon. Bill Oliver Deputy Speakers: Sherry Wilson and Andrea Anderson-Mason, K.C. Constituencies Party Members Albert (PC) Hon. Mike Holland Bathurst East—Nepisiquit—Saint-Isidore (

L) Susan Holt Bathurst West-Beresford (

L) René Legacy Campbellton-Dalhousie (

L) Guy Arseneault Caraquet (

L) Isabelle Thériault Carleton (PC) Hon. Bill Hogan Carleton-Victoria (PC) Hon. Margaret Johnson Carleton-York (PC) Richard Ames Dieppe (

L) Richard Losier Edmundston-Madawaska Centre (

L) Jean-Claude D’Amours Fredericton-Grand Lake (PC) Hon. Kris Austin Fredericton North (PC) Hon. Jill Green Fredericton South (

G) David Coon Fredericton West-Hanwell (

I) Dominic Cardy Fredericton-York (PC) Ryan Cullins Fundy-The Isles-Saint John West (PC) Andrea Anderson-Mason, K.C. Gagetown-Petitcodiac (PC) Ross Wetmore Hampton (PC) Hon. Gary Crossman Kent North (

G) Kevin Arseneau Kent South (

L) Benoît Bourque Kings Centre (PC) Hon. Bill Oliver Madawaska Les Lacs-Edmundston (

L) Francine Landry Memramcook-Tantramar (

G) Megan Mitton Miramichi (PC) Michelle Conroy Miramichi Bay-Neguac (PC) Hon. Réjean Savoie Moncton Centre (

L) Robert McKee Moncton East (PC) Hon. Daniel Allain Moncton Northwest (PC) Hon. Ernie Steeves Moncton South (PC) Greg Turner Moncton Southwest (PC) Sherry Wilson New Maryland-Sunbury (PC) Hon. Jeff Carr Oromocto-Lincoln-Fredericton (PC) Mary E. Wilson Portland-Simonds (PC) Hon. Trevor A. Holder Quispamsis (PC) Hon. Blaine Higgs Restigouche-Chaleur (

L) Marco LeBlanc Restigouche West (

L) Gilles LePage Riverview (PC) Hon. R. Bruce Fitch Rothesay (PC) Hon. Hugh J. Flemming, K.C. Saint Croix (PC) Kathy Bockus Saint John East (PC) Hon. Glen Savoie Saint John Harbour (PC) Hon. Arlene Dunn Saint John Lancaster (PC) Hon. Dorothy Shephard Shediac Bay-Dieppe (

L) Robert Gauvin Shediac—Beaubassin—Cap-Pelé (

L) Jacques LeBlanc Shippagan-Lamèque-Miscou (

L) Éric Mallet Southwest Miramichi-Bay du Vin (PC) Mike Dawson Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins (PC) Hon. Tammy Scott-Wallace Tracadie-Sheila (

L) Keith Chiasson Victoria-La Vallée (

L) Chuck Chiasson (

G) Green Party of New Brunswick (

I) Independent (

L) Liberal Party of New Brunswick (PC) Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick

CIRCONSCRIPTIONS Deuxième session de la 60e législature, 2022-2023 Président : L’hon. Bill Oliver Vice-présidentes : Sherry Wilson et Andrea Anderson-Mason, c.r. Circonscription Parti Parlementaires Albert (PC) L’hon. Mike Holland Baie-de-Miramichi—Neguac (PC) L’hon. Réjean Savoie Baie-de-Shediac—Dieppe (

L) Robert Gauvin Bathurst-Est—Nepisiquit—Saint-Isidore (

L) Susan Holt Bathurst-Ouest—Beresford (

L) René Legacy Campbellton-Dalhousie (

L) Guy Arseneault Caraquet (

L) Isabelle Thériault Carleton (PC) L’hon. Bill Hogan Carleton-Victoria (PC) L’hon. Margaret Johnson Carleton-York (PC) Richard Ames Dieppe (

L) Richard Losier Edmundston—Madawaska-Centre (

L) Jean-Claude D’Amours Fredericton-Grand Lake (PC) L’hon. Kris Austin Fredericton-Nord (PC) L’hon. Jill Green Fredericton-Sud (PV) David Coon Fredericton-Ouest—Hanwell (

I) Dominic Cardy Fredericton-York (PC) Ryan Cullins Fundy—Les-Îles—Saint John-Ouest (PC) Andrea Anderson-Mason, c.r. Gagetown-Petitcodiac (PC) Ross Wetmore Hampton (PC) Hon. Gary Crossman Kent-Nord (PV) Kevin Arseneau Kent-Sud (

L) Benoît Bourque Kings-Centre (PC) L’hon. Bill Oliver Madawaska—Les-Lacs—Edmundston (

L) Francine Landry Memramcook-Tantramar (PV) Megan Mitton Miramichi (PC) Michelle Conroy Miramichi-Sud-Ouest—Baie-du-Vin (PC) Mike Dawson Moncton-Centre (

L) Robert McKee Moncton-Est (PC) L’hon. Dan