Ontario Hansard — 17 February 2021 (42nd Parliament, 1st Session)

2021-02-17

Ontario — Debates (Hansard)

Ontario Hansard — 17 February 2021 (42nd Parliament, 1st Session)

2021-02-17

Ontario — Debates (Hansard)

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February 17, 2021

42nd Parliament, 1st Session

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L222 - Wed 17 Feb 2021 / Mer 17 fév 2021

LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF ONTARIO

ASSEMBLÉE LÉGISLATIVE DE L’ONTARIO

Wednesday 17 February 2021 Mercredi 17 février 2021

Orders of the Day

Legislative reform

Members’ Statements

Employment standards

Health care funding

Employment standards

Caledonia

Services for persons with disabilities

Abigail Leu

Boys and Girls Club of Brantford

Heritage conservation

Willowdale business improvement area

Charles H. Best Diabetes Centre

Farmers in India

Question Period

COVID-19 response

COVID-19 response

School safety

Natural gas pipeline

Tenant protection

Long-term care

Green power generation

COVID-19 response

Children’s mental health services

Justice system

School facilities

Employment standards

Tenant protection

Prescription drugs

COVID-19 response

Deferred Votes

No COVID-19 Evictions Act, 2021 / Loi de 2021 interdisant les expulsions pendant la COVID-19

Reports by Committees

Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills

Introduction of Bills

Paid Personal Emergency Leave Now Act, 2021 / Loi de 2021 visant à accorder sans délai un congé d’urgence personnelle payé

COVID-19 Public Inquiry Act, 2021 / Loi de 2021 concernant une enquête publique sur la COVID-19

We’re All in This Together Act (Cutting MPP Salaries to CERB Equivalent), 2021 / Loi de 2021 sur la réduction du traitement des députés à l’équivalent de la PCU par mesure de solidarité

Member’s compensation

Motions

Committee sittings

Petitions

Water extraction

Library services

Member’s compensation

Orders of the Day

Legislative reform

Private Members’ Public Business

Trespass to Property Amendment Act (Protecting Consumers from Package Piracy), 2021 / Loi de 2021 modifiant la

Loi sur l’entrée sans autorisation (protection des consommateurs contre le détournement de paquets)

Member’s compensation

The House met at 0900.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Good morning. Let us pray.

Prayers.

Orders of the Day

Legislative reform

Ms. Andrea Khanjin: I move that the standing orders of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario be amended as follows:

Standing order 10(

c) is deleted.

Standing order 30(

a) is deleted and the following substituted:

“30(

a) When a voice vote has been taken on any question, a division may be required by five members standing in their places, in which case the Speaker shall then defer the taking of the vote to the next instance of the proceeding ‘Deferred Votes,’ at which time the bells shall be rung for five minutes.

“(a.1) Notwithstanding standing order 30(a), the following divisions shall not be deferred:

“(

i) Divisions arising out of any routine proceeding;

“(ii) Divisions requested on motions to adjourn the House or the debate;

“(iii) Divisions where a standing order or other order specifies the time of the vote;

“(iv) Divisions on motions that the Chair of the Committee of the Whole House report progress and ask for leave to meet again or leave the chair.”

Standing orders 30(

h) and (

i) are deleted.

Standing order 37 is amended by deleting the words “standing orders 10(c), 30(

h) or 101(d)” and substituting the words “the standing orders.”

Standing order 67 is amended by deleting the words “under standing order 30(h)” in the last line.

Standing order 101(

d) is deleted.

Standing order 121 is deleted and the following substituted:

“121(

a) Upon a written request signed by a majority of the members of a standing or select committee, the Chair of the committee shall convene a meeting of the committee within seven calendar days following the receipt of such request by the Clerk of the Committee.

“(

b) The meeting request shall contain the text of a non-amendable motion proposing the consideration by the committee of a bill or other matter within the mandate of the committee.

“(

c) If the motion is in order, 30 minutes shall be allotted to debate the motion, at the end of which time the Chair shall put the question.

“(

d) For the purpose of this standing order, the committee may meet, and may continue to meet, during any adjournment of the House.”

That the following standing order be added for the duration of the 42nd Parliament:

“9(f.1) No later than 12:00 noon on any Tuesday, the government House leader may indicate in the House, or may deposit written notice with the Clerk of the Assembly, that a temporary change in the weekly meeting

schedule of the House is required, and in such case the afternoon routine on the Wednesday of that week shall commence at 1:00 p.m.”

That the Clerk be authorized to renumber the standing orders and to make such other consequential, editorial or other minor changes as may be required to ensure a consistent form of expression throughout the standing orders; and

That the terms of this motion shall come into force at 12:01 a.m. on the Friday of the week in which this motion is adopted.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): Ms. Khanjin has moved government notice of motion number 101, “that the standing orders of the Legislative Assembly of Ontario be amended as follows:

“Standing order 10(

c) is deleted.

“Standing order 30(

a) is deleted and the following substituted:

“‘30(

a) When’”—

Interjection: Dispense.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): Dispense? Dispense. All right. We’ll turn back to Ms. Khanjin to lead off the debate.

Ms. Andrea Khanjin: Thank you, Speaker. As we are debating motion number 101, it’s good to reflect on what we’ve done and to thank those who have helped this Legislature run as effectively as it has. I know it’s the first week back, so I did want to start by thanking everyone: the Clerk’s team and of course the Speaker’s office team, and everyone who makes this place run so smoothly, our interpreters and our translators. This really wouldn’t be possible without you present—and of course all members of the House, be they opposition or independent members.

I mean, it’s one thing for the government to stand here and debate and talk, but if we have no one to debate with, it kind of defeats the purpose. That is what our great legislative Parliament democracy that we have today is so great for, and of course, respecting those who came before us, who allowed and fought for the freedoms that we’re upholding today in this Legislature and the debates we’re having. So it’s important to reflect on those.

Of course, we’re working day in and day out to represent the great democracy that we have in Ontario, but there are other individuals who have been working day in and day out for this pandemic, and they do this every day. Over the holidays, we have our front-line workers who are constantly out there making sure that we’re safe: our paramedics, our PSWs, those people working in the hospitals, our nurses. They’re all on the front lines trying to do the best they can to make things work.

Oftentimes, in any profession, we’ve got technological advancements or any updates that make things run smoother. I look back to my area where we have Simcoe county paramedics. They changed some of the technology they use for dispatch. It’s made them have a better response time in how they work. Similarly, when we talk about Parliament, we think of things that we can tweak and update to make things run a little bit smoother. Certainly, we’ve done that several times in this Legislature. I’m going to get into, later in my speech, about how successful some of those changes have been in terms of the standing orders that we have introduced.

But today, the current standing order proposals that we are talking about and debating—I’ll list them—are the eliminating of the deferral slips, causing all recorded divisions to be automatically deferred to the next deferral vote. All of us, when we’re sitting here and we’re having debate and all of a sudden it’s time to vote, we’ve got our whip or our deputy whip running up to the Speaker and they’ve got to file in that deferral form. Sometimes, it feels like a bit of a race. I’ve often noticed that maybe some tripping occurs or we’re getting in the way and whatnot.

This minor amendment will allow us to not have that particular slip, even though the actual intent of what we’re trying to do, which is a deferral, will still exist. It’s just that we’re eliminating that paper process.

That kind of goes hand in hand with other things this government has done, which is trying to eliminate some of the paper, and which has worked out really well. It’s not only saved the taxpayer lots of their hard-earned dollars, but it’s also made this Legislature and government more effective and more efficient. I mean, we looked at our Minister of Government and Consumer Services, who put the top 10 services that we normally use for ServiceOntario—we put them online, which is really convenient. Again, it’s less paper, similar to what we’re doing here, to make it way more convenient.

The other change, of course, is the ability for committees to recall themselves when the House stands adjourned. We saw that over the summer. I know many members opposite who are here today sat on the standing committee on finance throughout the whole summer even though, technically, the Legislature was in adjournment for a temporary period of time. But that committee sat day in and day out as well.

Many times they sat until midnight listening to various individuals, whether it’s small businesses or people from tourism, about how COVID has affected them and what the government can do to really give them a hand up and allow them to continue on surviving through COVID, and just some of the struggles they’ve had, which obviously led to the budget that we, as a government, have introduced and, of course, the small business grant that we often talk about in this Legislature.

We heard a lot about the need for small businesses to get that relief, and now they have that extra flexibility in the small business grant where they can apply and use that towards whatever they need.

But a lot of those ideas and things wouldn’t have been possible if that committee had not sat all summer, and the amount of things we heard. Our minister of tourism, culture and sport continues to talk with her stakeholders. Certainly, we heard a lot from that community on the relief they need. Of course, we have those grants that are now available for the not-for-profit sector and our arts and culture groups.

They’re just as important, because we all know, after COVID, there is going to be some of that pent-up demand, and we’re all going to want to get out and support our local businesses, our local cultural institutions, when it’s safe to do so. But again, those ideas came out from that standing committee.

Now, with this particular change, the ability for committees to recall themselves when the House stands adjourned allows us to do more studies like the one we had throughout the summer with the standing committee on finance—again, all those wonderful ideas that we got from stakeholders which informed our budget.

The other change for the duration of the 42nd Parliament—this one is a little more specific. It allows the government House leader the ability to give notice that the House will meet at 1 p.m. instead of 3 p.m. on Wednesdays. Again, we’re talking about getting a lot of things done for the Ontario people. There are a lot of people on the front lines working day in and day out. When we first got elected, this particular government, we recalled the Legislature very early. I think no one got to really breathe after the election. We came back in here right away and started introducing legislation.

We recalled it many times in the winter. We recalled it many times in the summer. At one point, we came here on a Saturday. I don’t know if people remember that, but we talked about the anti-animal-cruelty legislation. It proves to you that all of us, no matter what political stripe you’re from, are really here to work as hard as we can for our constituents, for the people of Ontario, and leave this place better than when we found it. I think that’s a common goal that we can all share.

This particular standing order allows us to extend that time of us introducing bills and working for Ontarians and being able to use that time we have on Wednesdays from 1 to 3 to be able to have the House meet, which is great. This allows us to do more work. I know many of us were here last session, and we sat many times until midnight passing different legislation. We had to extend Dr. Williams’s term. I want to thank him for all his service that he’s done. We sat here for many hours into the late night—lots of coffee, definitely—to allow that to happen. Now, by having that extra period of time, we have that additional time to debate as to what’s happening.

This motion that we’re debating today really builds upon previous standing order changes that have really led to great successes, again, by everyone in this Legislature. It’s an opportunity to talk about the private members’ bills that we’ve passed in this Legislature—a historic amount of private members’ bills, again, by all members of government or be they opposition or independent members. They’ve had direct impacts on people already, which has been wonderful to see.

Just before we recessed to be in our constituency offices over the winter, we did debate the Eating Disorders Awareness Week from the MPP from Toronto–St. Paul’s, Bill 61, and the importance of that. We saw the impact that COVID-19 has had on eating disorders, with the recent report from SickKids. Everyone in this Legislature supported that piece of legislation. Again, that was made possible because we had a standing order change that allowed us more time to debate private members’ bills.

I’m newly elected, but for those who have served many years, you look back to what you have accomplished as an individual: What could you have done in the Legislature differently? What groups were you able to help in your own riding? What things were you able to move forward? Private members’ bills are this really special opportunity for you to introduce something that is specific to your riding or specific to a cause or an issue that people really care about.

It’s a very empowering position to be in, to be able to talk to your constituents and say, “I have introduced a private member’s bill that has now made this sort of impact on individuals.”

Mine, for example—I’m grateful for the support. The day of action on litter, of course, has now empowered students and children all across Ontario to be able to do something to keep their environment clean, and it gives them something to do. Of course, this past year, it was during COVID for the first day of action, and we had to pivot a little bit, but Act on Litter, the whole campaign, was trending—top 10 in Canada and top five in all of Ontario—so it showed you that people really have a connection there to what they want to do in their community: keeping it clean and environmentally friendly, of course.

That wouldn’t have been possible if we didn’t have the ability to introduce private members’ bills. But then, of course, now, with the previous standing orders changes we have made, we allow for more time to debate private members’ bills, so it allows a lot more people to succeed, to be able to have their private member’s bill passed.

For example, my colleague the MPP from Niagara West had Bill 3 passed, the Compassionate Care Act. Of course, that was before COVID, but certainly we see how even more important that piece of legislation is. Those who attended those committee meetings really saw the need from the various stakeholders and witnesses who appeared, and why this bill is so important.

We talk about, for example, Bill 118, which we debated just before the Legislature recessed temporarily: the Occupiers’ Liability Amendment Act. While it sounds very technical and was introduced by the MPP for Parry Sound–Muskoka, I recall door-knocking sporadically during a summer. I knocked on someone’s door and they said, “All I care about is: Are you supporting Bill 118?” And I’m thinking in my mind, “What is Bill 118?” and trying to scroll through the Rolodex of government bills we have introduced.

Bill 118 didn’t really come to mind quickly, so then I was like, “Sir, could you explain to me which bill this is?” He started talking about how he’s a landscaper, and liability. I thought, “Oh, okay. Is this Norm Miller’s private member’s bill?” And I said, “Okay, is this the private member’s bill you’re discussing?” And he said, “Yes, that’s the one.”

That shows you that even if a member isn’t from that specific riding, the impacts you can make with a private member’s bill are across the province. Certainly, we had a lot of support for this particular bill and the Occupiers’ Liability Act within the area of Barrie–Innisfil. There are a lot of contractors who would really benefit from this and it would allow their business to keep going.

But it also has great environmental impacts, as we see these commercial driveways with cubes and cubes of salt. Often, actually, the cubes of salt are more dangerous than not salting it at all. Of course, that has a direct impact on the environment, and in my beautiful riding, where we have beautiful Lake Simcoe, it has a direct impact there, as we have seen over the past few years. Our chloride levels have increased. We are part of the snowbelt; we may not be the buckle, but we are part of that belt. Certainly the use of salt adds contributaries to the watershed and to Lake Simcoe.

That’s certainly something we’re monitoring, and the member from Parry Sound–Muskoka now also has a direct impact on those types of waterways. But again, this brings us back to the reason we have this: because of previous standing orders we have changed, allowing for more debate for private members’ bills. That allowed for this to pass and the ripple effects that it caused, which is incredible.

I’m talking about a few private members’ bills, but we also have our deputy whip, the MPP for Mississauga East–Cooksville, who introduced a very interesting bill, the Stop Cyberbullying in Ontario Day Act. Of course, now with everyone at home and more on the computer, everyone experiences different kinds of cyberbullying. Just raising awareness of that and the importance and the education is so important.

A bill that was supported by all sides of the House was Bill 141, the Defibrillator Registration and Public Access Act, from the member of Eglinton–Lawrence. I know that in my community, I had Chase McEachern in the city of Barrie. Unfortunately, when he was playing hockey, there wasn’t a defibrillator close by, so we did lose him, and so, of course, the family has been advocating for more defibrillators in all hockey arenas, which we now have, which is great to see. But now, it’s the step further of allowing them in more publicly accessible areas so that more people have that chance of life.

Over COVID, in my riding of Barrie, we did open up another small business. It was actually really exciting that even during the horrible time that is a pandemic and what people have to undergo, new businesses were opening. One of the businesses that did open over the period of time was one that distributes defibrillators. They have them set up in very public areas, again, giving that ability to save lives, the importance of that. That was really good to see.

To commemorate one of my mentors, Julia Munro, we were also able to pass Bill 201, the Magna Carta Day Act, in memory of Julia Munro, the longest-serving female MPP in Ontario’s history. The member from Burlington introduced that. We were also able to debate that for a long time here because every day, we have that hour dedicated to private members’ bills, just like how yesterday we had the hour dedicated and today, we’ll have the same thing. It was a great way to commemorate her.

I know the member for Burlington isn’t in the Legislature today, but I want to thank her for introducing that private member’s bill. That was a great way to commemorate the late Julia Munro—“Lady Munro,” as we all knew her. It was just a very special moment in this Legislature. We can all reflect on accomplishments of our former colleagues, what they’ve done, the impact that they’ve made, and really reflect on what we want to do and the impacts we want to make in this Legislature. Many of those are done, of course, through private members’ bills. That is, again, one that I wanted to touch upon.

That was just in 2020 that we had those particular private members’ bills. There were others, like the Time Amendment Act by the MPP for Ottawa West–Nepean. That has gotten international praise, which was incredible. Now, our federal colleagues are looking at this particular bill, so that was really great to see. There’s a lady at my synagogue, Am Shalom, who came up to me and said, “Andrea, you know what I would really like the government to do? I’d really love you to change this daylight saving time.

It throws me off every time, and then I have to get back into the swing of it.” I was able, over the High Holidays, to tell her that actually, one of my colleagues had introduced this bill. Again, that would not have been possible without the standing order changes that we had previously made, today debating the additional changes to the standing orders so that we can move forward, achieve more—like, for example, the ability for the government House leader to give notice that the House will meet at 1 p.m. instead of 3 p.m. on Wednesdays, giving that greater period of time.

If you think about all the private members’ bills we’ve passed and how much we were able to accomplish, just think, in that period of time for the 42nd Parliament, of the additional things we can accomplish and go back to ridings and say, “We’ve done something,” and really proven ourselves. But again, as I was saying, in 2020, those were some of those private members’ bills.

Of course, there were others which would be very interesting for the Speaker to know. In 2019, we were able to pass Bill 6, the Poet Laureate of Ontario Act (In Memory of Gord Downie). That was from the Speaker in the chair right now, but also the MPP for Windsor–Tecumseh. That was also a great moment to commemorate the great legend who was Gord Downie. We were all able to come together in this Legislature to debate that.

I’d be remiss if I didn’t also mention our whip, who also co-sponsored a private member’s bill with the MPP for Guelph. That was Bill 123, the Reserved Parking for Electric Vehicle Charging Act. I think a lot of us who may know friends or may drive electric vehicles ourselves are always in those plazas, and then someone blocks the spot where we need to charge our car and it becomes an annoyance, if you will. That, of course, stops it. That was another interesting way to pass a bill and have it co-sponsored by different members of this Legislature. Again, it shows you what can be accomplished.

There are other modifications we’ve made in the past that have really been a tribute to both the tradition that is this Legislature, but also minor improvements that make it an even better and richer experience. It gives me an opportunity to plug one recent change we’ve had, which is now, we have a new app in this Legislature. You can watch the Legislature any time you want. It can be on your phone; it can be in your pocket. That, of course, is Parlance. You can now download Parlance. We see it on all our screens. So I want to thank all those individuals who have worked on this app.

Again, it’s another additional improvement, and it speaks to the accountability and transparency, something that this government campaigned on quite vividly.

It also speaks to the fact that when people want to understand what’s happening in the Legislature and what their elected officials are talking about, they now have this ability to download a new app and they can watch the live parliamentary proceedings. Of course, they can watch it any time. Also, there is closed caption available and whatnot, and it’s available on all different phones. For those who did not know about this app, you can now download it. Many of our staff, who work so diligently in our constituency offices—it’s something they can now have access to when they can’t be with us here in the Ontario Legislature.

So, I want to thank those for working on it because it’s another way to connect with youth as well. I think all of us, again, want to make the next generation better, and make this place a more effective place as well, as best as we can. This is another way to reach out to more young people who are constantly downloading apps—to be able to connect and have that ability to be engaged more in their government and what their government is doing.

Certainly, for our great teachers out there, it allows them to incorporate that into some of their classes. I know many of them, obviously, come to the Ontario Legislature. We see them on the steps; they’re getting their tour. Now, with COVID-19, it’s of course a little different. This still allows that level of access for them so they can still learn about the great parliamentary democracy that we all have in Canada, and we’re so lucky to be the representatives in Ontario. It’s very, very important.

But we couldn’t all be in this Legislature without its actual creation. I just wanted to go through some of the history that is this Legislature that allows us to be in here to debate things like our current standing orders and the changes that we’re making. Like I was saying, the deferral of the voting slips should be very interesting.

I don’t know if they’ve reached out to you, but we have that OLIP program. Many of them are writing their papers right now. One of the OLIP interns who reached out to some of our offices is doing one on the modification of the different changes that have happened in the Legislature. This is one topic of interest to them because they can now talk about how we have improved it. How have we kept that tradition? It’s that fine balance, right?

The fine balance is, of course, you want to commemorate history. For example, in one of the standing orders, not only do we sing O Canada in this Legislature, to commemorate the great country that we all represent—strong and free—but also we sing God Save the Queen as a commemoration to her Royal Highness and everything that she represents. This is very much an extension of that system and of that parliamentary democracy that we’re upholding. There’s that really rich, beautiful tradition that we have in this Legislature and other Legislatures across Canada.

Then there’s obviously the other side of that, which is doing the minor updates to make it more efficient. For example, I think at one point we didn’t even have microphones in here. So, it’s those little technological advancements, and procedurally, things that can be updated to make things a bit better.

That brings me to, how do we make things more better? Sometimes committees—we were talking about one of the changes before us today, the ability for committees to recall themselves when the House stands adjourned. We talked about it a bit earlier, the ability to really be able to study more things in depth and recall them when needed. Again, when there are any economic effects out there in the world, a great pandemic, that we all need to gather together to solve, we can do that.

The one thing that I had experienced from the summer on the standing committee on finance is that people finally found Parliament successful. They can come to a committee; it’s accessible. They can give their testimony. They really feel like they’re heard. And there are many constituents in my riding of Barrie–Innisfil who came before the standing committee on finance and were able to pitch some of their ideas, how they’re going to pivot.

Of course, Digital Main Street helped a lot of different people. They were able to pivot from that bricks and mortar store to be able to provide a lot of their services digitally. Our downtown BIAs that all of us connect with all the time, they’re the ones that really benefited from this this new concept and idea, but a lot of these things we heard during that meeting.

We were able to have it because we recalled this particular committee during the summer. Of course, now we’ll be able to do that at any point in time. If the House stands adjourned, we can still do that very important business. Over the summer, we saw the importance of that.

We got some great ideas on there for the restaurant sector, for example: the ability to do takeout for alcohol, to be able to extend our patios, all these things that our hard-working Attorney General for Ontario and MPP for Barrie–Springwater–Oro-Medonte worked very hard on. But a lot of this came from and originated from all of the work in the committee as well.

Like I said, it’s a Team Canada approach that we’ve been taking this whole pandemic, and a lot of the work that we’ve done through that committee on all sides was being able to help a lot of those sectors, be it our tourism, culture and sports sector, our small businesses sector, helping them with rent relief by tweaking the rent relief program so that not only are landlords able to apply but tenants are able to apply. That was such a huge game-changer. I know in my community it was a breath of relief for many of the businesses that could finally uptake it.

I know one specific—her husband—they were actually on CBC and different stations. The husband and wife decided to open up a café. It’s a half café, half printing shop called Creative Bean. Unfortunately, Rene, who is the husband who owns the business with his wife, quit his job to work at the café all the time because it was his passion. He really loved it. It would be closer to home, less commuting. I’m sure a lot of us know those types of people. He did get COVID. He was on a ventilator for many weeks. His wife was really worried. They have kids that are very young.

Of course, it was every day just praying and hoping that Rene would come through, and he did. Now, Rene and his wife are back at the café fully. They’ve done takeout during the lockdown, and now that we’re moving to the red zone in my particular community, they’ll be able to have a few people sit in the restaurant.

But the amount of community support that came out for the family was incredible. It shows you that, yes, there is a role for government to play, but we’re not the only players in society. When we talk about our parliamentary democracy and the foundations of demos and what it means, it’s all the people. If you didn’t have all the individuals in a community that are helping also, you wouldn’t have that huge success. It is on government to do its part, but we also have our private citizens and individual citizens that can obviously take things up on their own and help their community as well.

We can all set a good example of taking care of thy neighbour and making sure that everyone does feel supported and has what they need.

In the story of Creative Bean, we saw that. There was one gentleman who owns a transportation company—not any transportation company; it was actually a limo company. He offered for them to have a special experience when they were picking up Rene from the hospital after he recovered from getting COVID, allowing them to take that particular vehicle to the hospital to pick up their dad. For the kids, it was so special. Instead of being, obviously, a horrific experience, it allowed them to lift up their spirits. Of course, it was because of the gentleman that owned the transportation service.

So you saw that Ontario spirit come around. The amount of people that dropped off food and goods for them was also incredible to see.

But they benefited from many of these programs that we heard about and that we debated in that particular standing committee because it was able to be recalled during the summer, and that’s something that we can now continue to do with the standing order change, to be able to have those committees discuss and debate different bills and different needs and, of course, be accessible to the greater public so they can come in and voice their opinion.

I know many of us have a lot of meetings we take in our offices. Of course that’s very important, but sometimes there’s also another platform that people want to be able to give their opinions and their ideas, so committee is certainly a really good platform, and it’s rooted in a deep tradition that we still want to uphold—but again, the ability to tweak it slightly. For example, we can watch committee televised, which is a great thing to do.

That wouldn’t have been possible without the actual creation of this building itself. As we look back to when this building was first built, there’s really kind of a funny folk story about the first day that this building opened. On April 4, 1893, when the Ontario legislative building first opened, according to folk history, Premier Sir Oliver Mowat at the time is said to have ridden towards the new impressive provincial legislature for the opening and turned to the Clerk and remarked, “Well, Joe, we built it.

How are we going to fill it with people?” Little did he know that within 20 years, the building would be filled and would endure as a symbol of the provincial government 100-plus years later. Now people can easily come to committee and testify, but there was a point in time in history when there was a fear that no one was going to come to this building. Of course, many are coming every year. I know different members do get elected and then we’re able to come to this building and debate things like we are today—the standing orders that we are amending.

Just to repeat them: Of course, we’re eliminating the deferral slips, causing all recorded divisions to be automatically deferred to the next deferral votes; the ability for committees to recall themselves when the House stands adjourned; and for the duration of the 42nd Parliament, the ability for the government House leader to give notice that the House will meet at 1 p.m. instead of 3 p.m. on Wednesdays.

That is building on the success of the standing orders that we’ve changed, to make this a richer, fuller experience and really be able to talk to those constituents and those people who have elected us to do the role that we’re doing and to be able to tell them we’re doing the best we can, and delivering those supports that are needed for those businesses that made the ultimate sacrifice during COVID-19. They could not open their doors.

Being able to let them pivot their business, whether it’s providing a Digital Main Street platform for them, being able to do takeout, allow a bit more income, the small business grant, which allows them to use that towards any of their needs, the PPE grant—again, the PPE grant is something we heard at the standing committee on finance, that they need help, to allow that.

When I had the finance minister come to my riding and we did a bit of a tour of different businesses, Stephanie from Discount Granite Plus in Barrie—one thing that she talked about was the cost of PPE. Again, that’s something she was able to directly give to the finance minister at the time. There were other members from our Barrie chamber who were able to come to the select committee to also say similar things that they needed help and support with. It will be great to see that we are able to have more of that committee work take place if these standing orders do pass.

So I do urge all members to support these standing orders, as they do make this place a richer experience and allow us to do more, and then we can reflect on our many years—for those who served more than one, who have been here for many years, longer than I, on the great accomplishments and successes they’ve made, and they were able to contribute to Ontario being a better place.

On that note, I will conclude my remarks, and I’ll pass it on to the next speaker.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): Further debate?

Ms. Peggy Sattler: It’s a pleasure to rise today to participate in the debate. It’s my first opportunity to speak on this, other than yesterday, during question period—but it’s my first opportunity to join in a debate.

Before I get into the substance of my remarks, I want to point out to any Ontarian who has tuned in to the legislative channel this morning to find out what urgent matters of policy are being debated in this Legislature that what we are debating this morning is a motion that was tabled yesterday, in fact—the first day back in the Legislature. It’s a motion to change the standing orders to do a couple of things.

One is to no longer require a deferral slip, which, for those who are watching, is a piece of paper that has to be handed to the Speaker when there’s a request for a recorded vote. We will no longer have to hand that deferral slip to the Speaker—as the member for Barrie–Innisfil said, risk tripping on the way to hand in that deferral slip. We will no longer have to do that, thankfully, because there is a proposed change to the standing order to eliminate that requirement. A vote will automatically be deferred without the need for a deferral slip.

The other thing that the motion we are debating this morning does is, it enables standing committees to sit while the Legislature is adjourned. Certainly, this is something that would have been important—to have allowed the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs to conduct pre-budget consultations throughout December, January, the first three weeks of February. That would have been a good mechanism to have had in place so that the standing committee could have conducted pre-budget consultations.

But, of course, this change to the standing orders wouldn’t have been required for pre-budget consultations to take place. All that would have been required was a motion from the government prior to rising in December so that there could have been an open and transparent pre-budget process.

The people of Ontario, the small business sector that is being devastated by COVID-19, the non-profit agencies that are hanging by a thread as they try to deal with the urgent and growing community needs that they address, the people of this province who are facing eviction, the lack of affordable housing—these are all things that I’m sure the people of Ontario would have appreciated having an opportunity to participate in through an open and transparent pre-budget process.

But the government, at the time, decided it wasn’t going to enable that to happen and instead would have this closed-door budget consultation where they hand-select who they’re going to listen to as they work to develop the budget for March.

But now, thankfully, we have a standing order change that will enable committees to meet while the Legislature is adjourned, if there is a majority of members who request it.

That’s a good thing, Speaker. That is helpful to the way that we conduct business in this Legislature. There’s no question about that. However, we are in the second day back at Queen’s Park since the Legislature rose on December 8. What has happened over that time, since December 8: We were in lockdown. We were in a province-wide lockdown because COVID-19 cases were going through the roof. We were seeing unprecedented numbers of cases, which required the implementation of a provincial state of emergency.

We are nowhere near through the worst of this pandemic, and we know that. We know that because the government’s science table advisers have been very clear. We are on the brink of disaster. That is what Dr. Steini Brown said last week. The data, the modelling, is showing that we are on the brink of disaster in this province, given the policy choices that this government has made.

And so, one would expect, when one hears dire warnings from esteemed, reputable experts like Dr. Steini Brown, that this government would bring in legislation to address the potential disaster that we are facing in this province. But instead—instead of legislation that is going to really deal with the issues that are facing our province imminently—this government has chosen to use time on the legislative agenda to bring forward a motion to talk about eliminating deferral slips and enabling legislative committees to meet.

To me, Speaker, that is shameful. It does a huge disservice to the people of this province, who elected us to come to Queen’s Park and introduce policies, develop and move laws that are going to actually help people get through the crisis that we are facing.

I have to say, I did appreciate the comments from the member for Barrie–Innisfil during her remarks, when she talked about the impact of private members’ bills. She spent a good part of her speech talking about, reminiscing about some of the private members’ bills that have been introduced by Conservative members and have been brought forward and moved through the legislative process and implemented into law.

And I agree that private members’ bills can provide an important contribution to public policy in Ontario. We should be doing more private members’ bills. We should be moving more private members’ bills through the legislative process and making them into law.

Ms. Catherine Fife: Like paid sick days.

Ms. Peggy Sattler: Yes.

That is why, Speaker, last week NDP leader Andrea Horwath wrote a letter to the Premier, on February 11. She announced to the Premier and she announced to the Conservative government which private members’ bills would actually be helpful to the people of Ontario and would address some of the major challenges that we are facing right now in this province.

She indicated that the NDP, based on what we are hearing from the people of this province, based on the advice that we are getting from health care experts, from epidemiologists, from people who understand how this pandemic is affecting people in this province—based on that consultation and that knowledge that we were aware of, we sent a letter indicating that we had several private members’ bills that we urged the government to bring forward through the legislative process and pass into law immediately, because these are private members’ bills that are urgent.

They are desperately needed by the people of Ontario to deal with the crisis we are facing.

In particular, I want to talk about Bill 239. That is my Stay Home If You Are Sick Act. That is a bill that has near unanimous agreement across Ontario, across business owners, labour leaders, workers, health care experts, boards of health—which represent communities; they represent municipal councils and community members who do a service on boards of health. We have the medical officers of health. All are saying that the one thing, the missing piece—among many missing pieces, but the most important missing piece in this government’s response to COVID-19 has been the lack of paid sick days.

This government had an opportunity yesterday to immediately pass Bill 239 into law, but they chose not to do that. If they had agreed to the unanimous consent motion, we could have scheduled time today. Today we could have been talking about moving quickly and getting Bill 239 passed this week. It could have been passed this week. Instead, we’re talking about eliminating the need for deferral slips and making some minor changes to the way that standing committees operate.

The other thing that the leader of the official opposition had communicated to the Premier as a priority for the people of this province was the Time to Care Act. That was legislation that was introduced by my colleague the member for London–Fanshawe that would guarantee residents of long-term-care homes a minimum of four hours of hands-on care per resident per day.

When we look at how COVID-19 has ravaged long-term-care homes in our province, we just have to look at the member for Barrie–Innisfil’s own riding, Speaker—Roberta Place, a long-term-care home in her own community, that was devastated by the new variant of COVID-19 that ripped through that long-term-care home in a matter of days—to understand the urgency of the issues that we are facing here in this province.

The bill that was introduced by my colleague would recognize the importance of providing safe long-term-care homes for our seniors, of ensuring that that iron ring that the Premier likes to talk about is actually there to protect residents of long-term-care homes. But are we talking about how to move that bill, the Time to Care Act, through, how to ensure that it becomes law in the province of Ontario? No, we are not. We are talking about changes to the standing orders that do nothing to address the real priorities and the real concerns of the people of Ontario.

The other thing that we could have been talking about this morning is a bill that was introduced by your colleague the member for Windsor dealing with the rights of residents of congregate care settings to have access to their essential caregivers. We have all, I think, heard stories from our constituents, from families who have loved ones in long-term-care homes and the trauma they have experienced by not being able to have access to their loved ones; the incredible fear and anxiety they are dealing with on a daily basis as they are denied the ability to go in and see their loved ones.

The residents of those congregate care settings are being denied access to the people who communicate for them, who understand their needs. That is cruel. It is inhumane not to fix that issue right now, which we could do with the legislation that was passed by my colleague, the More Than a Visitor Act.

The letter from our leader, Andrea Horwath, also identified a number of other private members’ bills that could be moved through this place and enacted into law very quickly that would actually help people in this province.

There is a need to have an equity strategy for the vaccine rollout plan. All of us, I fully expect, if your constituency offices are like mine, are being inundated by people who are 75 and 80 who live at home. They’re 85, they’re 90, but they are not in a long-term-care home and they’re asking legitimate questions: When will I get the vaccine? How will I know that I am now eligible to get the vaccine?

Is there infrastructure in place to ensure that when the vaccine supply arrives, we are able to immediately get the vaccine into people’s arms? We could be talking about legislation that deals with the need for that infrastructure to make sure that we have a vaccine rollout plan that is going to vaccinate as many people in those higher risk categories as possible, as quickly as possible. But do we see that today? No, we do not. We see some minor changes to the standing orders.

We could be talking about a strategy to keep schools safe. This is the first week that kids are back in school in the GTA.

Hon. Paul Calandra: Point of order, Speaker.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): Sorry to interrupt the member for London West. The government House leader has risen on a point of order.

The government House leader.

Hon. Paul Calandra: I appreciate the amount of latitude that the Speaker has been giving, but I would hope that the member would focus her comments on the important standing orders that are before the House today and not a review of all of the things that the member would like to see happen over the coming weeks. There will be time for debate on that specifically later.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): Thank you for raising it. I don’t recognize it as a legitimate point of order because I have been listening intently. The custom of the House is, if you introduce a motion, the opposition has an opportunity to say thank you and what you could have done in addition is this. She has been drawing it back to the private members’ bills and different things that have been introduced. I thought it a brilliant segue at one point to what was raised earlier in the week. I’m being partisan in this, but I have been listening intently, and I believe she is within her right to be saying what has been said, and I’ll rely on Hansard to back that up. Thank you.

Back to the member from London West.

Ms. Peggy Sattler: Thank you very much, Speaker. I appreciated your listening to my remarks because we did hear the member for Barrie–Innisfil embark on a trip down memory lane about all the PMBs that the Conservative members have introduced that have been passed.

Speaker, I wanted to emphasize that there are high-priority PMBs that have been introduced, that are ready to go. We moved unanimous consent motions yesterday—which the government chose not to support, but could have. Had they supported them, we could have been dealing with them this week. If there is empty time on the legislative agenda, those PMBs would have been very appropriately debated and passed this week. We know that because of what we are hearing from the people we represent.

I’m curious to know, since we rose on December 7, how many constituents contacted the members over on the government side to say, “I hope that the second day you are back in the Legislature, you are dealing with changes to the standing orders, you are dealing with eliminating the need for deferral slips, you are dealing with changing the way that standing committees can conduct business while the Legislature is adjourned.” I’m going to go out on a limb here and say I don’t think they got a single call, a single email about those issues.

I think they heard the exact same thing that we are hearing, which is about the need for paid sick days. It’s about the need to put an iron ring around our long-term-care homes. It’s about the need to stop people from being evicted from their homes: How are people supposed to stay home and stay safe if they don’t have a home to live in? It’s about the need to provide meaningful supports for small businesses.

It’s about the need to ensure that kids are able to remain safely in schools. We haven’t seen any meaningful action from this government. In fact, today, we heard epidemiologist Dr. David Fisman talk about how his modelling, his analysis had been twisted and used inappropriately to justify changing March break from March to April. Dr. Fisman has been very public about his concerns about what this means when Dr. Steini Brown, to go back to my initial comments, warned of 5,000 to 6,000 cases by the end of March.

So I’m not going to help the government out by filling legislative time, dealing with such inconsequential pieces of public policy as these minor changes to the standing orders, when we should be dealing with so much more important things, issues that are priorities for people in Ontario and that would actually help to deal with the crisis that we are facing. Eliminating the need for a deferral slip? Why not? Changing the way that standing committees can conduct business while the Legislature is adjourned? Yes, that would be good going forward. We support that.

Allowing a change in when the Legislature is going to come back in the afternoon on Wednesdays so that we can return at 1 o’clock instead of 3 o’clock? Sure, let’s do it.

The standing orders are not a problem; the changes to the standing orders are not a problem. What is a problem is the fact that we are being negligent in our duty, in our responsibility to represent the people of Ontario and talk about issues that are really going to make a difference in people’s lives.

With that, I am sharing my time with the member for London–Fanshawe, who will have her own comments to make. Thank you.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): For further debate, I turn to the member from London–Fanshawe.

Ms. Teresa J. Armstrong: Thank you, Speaker. I want to make some quick comments on this, because, really, the motion before us has nothing to do with COVID and the pandemic and what people are experiencing.

People are tired; they’re fatigued. They want some hope. They want solutions to some of these problems. One of the problems that we have seen—and the member from Barrie–Innisfil, as the member from London West said, touched on many private members’ bills, but one thing she forgot to mention was long-term care. It’s one of the worst things that is happening in this whole pandemic. When there’s an outbreak, it just runs through the long-term-care home and affects so many of our loved ones. People are dying under horrible, horrible conditions. We saw it with the Canadian Armed Forces report.

Apparently, that’s when the government realized how bad things were. But things were bad before the pandemic happened, and we had proposed many changes. One of the private members’ bills that we should be passing in a package that we introduced yesterday under the unanimous consent is the Time to Care Act, Bill 13, which guarantees a standard of care of four hours per day. Also, it legislates a standard of care so that long-term-care homes are held accountable.

I can say that what the government did prioritize during the pandemic was passing Bill 218, which lets long-term-care homes—profitable long-term-care homes, which have the worst record in COVID-19—off the hook from being sued. It makes it so difficult for families to get justice.

I ask this government, why are we talking about deferral slips and tripping over each other to get a deferral slip to the table when we could actually be talking about the Time to Care Act and mandating that four hours that’s so desperately needed for our loved ones in long-term care, for the workers who are delivering that care that we all want to see happen? Nobody wants a loved one to suffer. What’s the solution? Pass the four hours in the Time to Care Act. Get those workers the dignity and respect that they need to do their job, to look after our loved ones.

With that, Speaker, I want to pass my time to the member for Ottawa Centre to comment on this motion before us.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): The member for London–Fanshawe said she would be sharing her time, so I turn to the member for Ottawa Centre.

Mr. Joel Harden: I want to add to what my colleagues have mentioned by pointing out to my friends in government what’s also missing from their prioritization of administrative measures for how we debate in this House, and that’s the rights and the living standards of people with disabilities.

As Ontario’s critic for disabilities, I am contacted on a daily basis—sometimes an hourly basis—under the hash tag #ODSPoverty, about the living conditions people are suffering through. All of us in this chamber walk into this place making $116,000 a year. We work hard for it. There are a lot of people at home suffering through this pandemic who are still pulling down good salaries, and that’s good for them. But somehow the province of Ontario thought it was appropriate, decades ago, to legislate poverty for people living on the Ontario Disability Support Program—with a maximum benefit for individuals of $1,169 a month. Most people don’t get that much.

What have we done for those people in this pandemic? For four months, we gave them $100 a month extra, if they could chase their ODSP worker to apply for it, and then we took it away in early August. People have been languishing without access to proper food, without access to the services they need. The way in which we have treated the disabled in this province in this pandemic is insulting. And I am upset with my friends in government that there is nothing on the second day of the resumption of this Legislature to help people with disabilities.

In the province of British Columbia, there was an immediate $300-a-month top-up to people’s disability incomes—immediate—to everybody on the caseload. Nothing was clawed back for the small amount of people who qualified for the Canada Emergency Response Benefit, the federal response benefit. There has been something for people in British Columbia; there has been absolutely nothing for people in Ontario.

So I am waiting with bated breath to see a single dollar released to people who are suffering, who are made marginalized by legislation in this province.

I’ll just name one person who contacted me this morning. Her name is Michele Proulx. Michele recently was taking a Para Transpo ride in Ottawa. Because of the way the system is overtaxed, the driver told Michele, “On the way to your destination, ma’am, we’re going to pick up another person to sit in the back seat of this modified van with you.” Can you imagine, Speaker? Someone who is immunocompromised, on ODSP, is being told, “We’re going to pick up somebody else.” Of course, she refused, and she was put out in an Ottawa winter to wait somewhere for OC Transpo to rectify the matter. That is unacceptable. It would never happen to somebody without a disability.

We have to make sure that funding comes from the province of Ontario for people’s transportation needs, for people’s meal needs, for all of the increased costs. I want to see a stop in fiddling around from this government and money to people with disabilities now.

I’d like to share my time—

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): No, we’re not going to do that. You sat down without saying that.

I’m just going to call for further debate on this side first.

I recognize the member for Whitby.

Mr. Lorne Coe: It’s an honour to be able to speak on the motion amending the standing orders. These changes, as some of the other members have talked about, are going to streamline the voting process and establish a straightforward system that will allow committees to meet year-round—we’ve heard that request from many of the constituents we have the privilege of representing—and provide more time in the chamber for bills to be debated. That particular amendment is certainly not inconsequential.

Speaker, as you know, the standing orders govern the business of the House, and they are procedures that guide the legislative process. I talk about that for those who might be either watching or listening today, because it’s not generally a topic that our constituents would understand, generally—about what the standing orders guide going forward.

Under the current standing orders, a vote can only be deferred if the chief government whip presents a written deferral slip—or the official opposition does—at the conclusion of a debate. At the moment, when there are limited members at the Legislature, it’s prudent to ensure, I believe, that all votes take place in a safe and controlled manner. With votes being deferred to a set time, we’ll be able to more reliably limit the number of members and staff in the building. This way, we’ll be able to vote in a predictable manner that will keep everyone safe and not compromise the ability of the government to pass its legislation.

Secondly, under the current standing orders, there’s no clearly defined mechanism that would allow the members of a standing committee to convene following the adjournment of the House. We heard in the earlier debate the interaction that we would have with our individual constituents and what their expectations are.

One of the expectations I hear in Whitby—and the privilege I have of representing Whitby—is that where there’s a possibility for our standing committees to continue to consider pieces of legislation, we should do that, because that allows members of the public and other representatives from sectors to provide their particular perspectives on the legislation within the standing committee process. These changes would allow a majority of the members to convene a sitting of a standing committee for the purpose of undertaking committee business.

The other amendment that I think will add particular value to the legislative process is coming back at 1 o’clock on Wednesday instead of 3 p.m. Once again, that’s going to allow extra time to debate bills in the House. We’ve heard that request from the official opposition, we’ve heard that from the independents, and we’ve heard that from constituents.

Speaker, you’ll know that over the past several months of COVID-19, we’ve opened up in a way that I don’t think any other government has done in the history of the province. At the same time, as I’ve said on a number of occasions, the opposition and the independents worked with us closely to ensure that we were able to address the very important needs of the people of this province during the COVID-19 pandemic. Going forward, I would anticipate that level of co-operation will continue. I think two of the amendments that I’ve referred to, coming back at 1 o’clock on Wednesdays and allowing standing committees to meet when we’re adjourned, speak to that.

Speaker, the amendments embedded in today’s motion continue the process that was initiated by the government House leader several months ago, the Honourable Paul Calandra. I believe that we followed through on the intention in a manner that has exceeded all expectations. We’ve not only ensured that business is conducted in a safe and responsible manner, but we have also followed through on our commitment to pass legislation that improves the lives of Ontarians, despite this challenging pandemic.

That is one of the expectations of our constituents, whether it’s those who are living in the town of Whitby or those living in the other parts of the region of Durham or other parts of Ontario. That’s why we were able to pass bills, Speaker, through this House with the unanimous support of all of our colleagues in this place.

I want to spend a little bit of time from whence we’ve come to where we are today, because I think it’s important context. In 2020, we successfully integrated the COVID-19 emergency legislation into a package of government bills and private members’ bills which were designed to strengthen our economy and improve the lives of everyday residents. Our government passed 54 separate pieces of legislation in the last year while remaining committed, absolutely committed, to openness and transparency. By allowing the committees to meet when this House is adjourned, it speaks to those particular components, doesn’t it? Openness and transparency, the continuum of that.

But what we accomplished in the last year necessitated a lot of different processes. We changed the way voting was done in this place so that people could come into the Legislature and vote in a different fashion. All of this and some of the other work I’ve alluded to was done so that our work would be able to proceed safely, responsibly and efficiently in this modern age and, yes, in this unprecedented time we’re all living in.

Speaker, I think it’s appropriate that we thank the Clerks and the staff of the Legislature for facilitating such a seamless transition towards safer systems and processes. Without their tireless work, commitment and flexibility, none of this would have been possible.

No one watching, listening or here today should be under no illusion that this government, led by Premier Ford and his strong cabinet, is ever going to give up on its mandate before the next election. We have important priorities that we want to do, and as convenient as it would be for the opposition to have us stop and do nothing, that’s not convenient for the people of the province of Ontario who are relying on us to get things done. Speaker, my constituents and yours are relying on us.

I see that I’m running out of time, Speaker. If you like, I can take this particular moment to just finish up and allow you to move into statements.

The Acting Speaker (Mr. Percy Hatfield): Thank you. We have reached the point on the clock where we end the debate momentarily and we go to members’ statements.

Debate deemed adjourned.

Members’ Statements

Employment standards

Ms. Rima Berns-McGown: For months now, the Premier has been exhorting Ontarians to stay home as the answer to rising COVID numbers. But our front-line workers can’t stay home. Our essential workers can’t stay home. The folks who stock grocery shelves or work at the drugstore, convenience store or deliver things that we now all order online, they can’t stay home. Many of them know that they will lose their homes if their income drops, so they have no choice but to go to work sick, even if those are COVID symptoms they have, even if they have tested positive. People can’t stay home if they’re going to lose their housing as a result, and now the Premier is refusing to ban evictions.

New COVID variants are frightening, and it will be months before most Ontarians get their shots. But people can’t stay home if it means they can’t pay their bills. We need paid sick days so that our front-line heroes, the same ones we banged on pans for and celebrate, can keep a roof over their heads and food on the table.

People are sick and tired of lockdowns and angry with the Ford government that blames individuals for flouting rules but won’t put in place the supports that people need to keep everyone safe. If our schools and small businesses are going to open and stay open, we need people who are sick to be able to stay home without losing theirs.

Paid sick days, now.

Health care funding

Mr. Robert Bailey: It’s a privilege to rise today and announce another critical health care investment in Lambton county by the government of Ontario. Today, our government is investing over $2.8 million to expand the Community Paramedicine for Long-Term Care program in Lambton county. This initiative builds on Lambton county’s successful paramedicine program that also received full annualized provincial funding last summer.

The new Community Paramedicine for Long-Term Care program will help seniors on long-term-care wait-lists to stay safe in their own homes by providing them with direct access to non-emergency support 24 hours a day, seven days a week by paramedicine practitioners like the Lambton county EMS.

This program is another way our government is collaborating with our health care system partners to provide innovative services in support of our goal to end hallway health care in Ontario and to build a 21st-century long-term-care system while also responding to the impact that COVID-19 has had on this sector.

The program works alongside home care, primary care, community care, and leverages the skills of community paramedicine practitioners to provide non-emergency support, such as home visits and remote monitoring. The program is fully funded by the provincial government, operated in partnership with our municipal partners.

Mr. Speaker, this is another terrific example of how the government of Ontario is investing in things that matter most to the people of Ontario and in my riding of Sarnia–Lambton.

Employment standards

Mr. Jeff Burch: People across this province and in my riding of Niagara Centre continue to do their

part in the fight against COVID-19. Ontario is seeing a rapid increase of the COVID-19 variants of concern. Public health measures are lifting, and people across this province still do not have access to paid sick days. The federal sick leave program does not replace full income and is not adequate for people to stay home. Academic studies have found that workers who lack paid sick leave are 1.5 times more likely to go to work contagious.

Every local public health agency has urged this government to implement paid sick days. Ontario mayors and their councils, the Registered Nurses’ Association of Ontario and the Ontario Medical Association are all telling the Ford government that there is an urgent need for guaranteed paid sick days for the duration of the pandemic.

Although it is clearly a provincial responsibility, this Premier continues to place the burden on the people of this province, instead of showing real leadership and ensuring that people can stay home when they’re sick. The people who stock our groceries, ensure our food supply in our warehouses, who care for our seniors in long-term care need paid sick days to stay home. They take care of us and are counting on us to take care of them. Today, I’m urging the government to listen to the science, respect the experts and pass Bill 239.

Caledonia

Mr. Toby Barrett: This month marks the unfortunate 15th anniversary of the occupation of Caledonia’s Douglas Creek Estates subdivision—February 28, 2006, to be exact—marking 15 years of road blockades, detours, confrontation and intimidation. More recently, on February 24 last year, provincial Highway 6 was blockaded at Caledonia in support of the Wet’suwet’en Coastal GasLink pipeline protest, part of the Shut Down Canada movement.

As with railroads across Canada, last February also saw the shutdown of the CN line that runs from Caledonia down to the Nanticoke industrial park. This followed police action to clear the Deseronto railway blockade, following a statement by Prime Minister Trudeau that blockades “must ... come down” and that court “injunctions must be obeyed and the law must be upheld.”

Premier Ford echoed these sentiments: “Enough is enough. The illegal blockades must come down.... The federal government must coordinate action to take down these illegal blockades across the country.”

On July 19, last year, another subdivision was occupied: McKenzie Meadows. In August, destruction ensued. By October, Highway 6, the Caledonia bypass, the CN line, McKenzie Road and Argyle Street were all blockaded. Highway 6 reopened February 10. Argyle repairs finished up today, McKenzie Road will be repaired in two days, and they are inspecting the CN rail, I’m pleased to report, as of today.

Services for persons with disabilities

Mr. Joel Harden: On February 12, 2021, a note came out from the government of Ontario that was called, “Guidance for Facilities for Sports and Recreational Fitness Activities During COVID-19 Province-wide Shutdown for Persons With Disabilities.”

I want to say to you, Speaker, and I want to say to the people at home who will be watching this clip, this advisory didn’t happen by accident. It happened because two fantastic people from Ottawa, Melanie Coughlin and Mary Jane Clinkard, people with disabilities who need aqua therapy to live decent, meaningful and fulfilling lives, took action.

I want to note for everyone watching this clip, Speaker, that when we ask people in Ontario to stay safe and stay home and we push the province into a lockdown for the right reasons, we can’t think that one size fits all. We have to remember that people with disabilities need access to crucial therapies to live, because what is the alternative? The alternative is people have breathing problems, respiratory problems, health problems, and they end up in the very hospitals we are trying to keep open.

So I want to thank Melanie Coughlin. I want to thank Mary Jane Clinkard. I want to thank Michael Thomas, the chief of staff in Minister Cho’s office, for taking a particular interest and pushing this in the government. I want to thank CBC Ottawa Morning. I want to thank Joanne Laucius, from the Ottawa Citizen, who raised this story.

And folks watching at home, never forget that organizing in your community and pushing a government to do the right thing can make a difference. We got this win. We need more wins. Thank you, Mel. Thank you, Mary Jane.

Abigail Leu

Mr. Michael Coteau: It’s great to be in the House today representing the wonderful people of Don Valley East.

I’m just so happy that we have someone like Abigail in our community making such a difference, especially as a young Ontarian, a young Canadian, stepping up and really looking for ways to improve our community and take on challenges during this challenging time.

Boys and Girls Club of Brantford

Mr. Will Bouma: I am happy to rise in the House today and talk a little about the Boys and Girls Club of Brantford–Brant. More than 50 years ago, visionary members of the Rotary Club of Brantford recognized the need for quality recreational opportunities for youth. Today, the Boys and Girls Club serves thousands of children across Brantford and Brant, and operates in multiple locations to serve our diverse communities.

The Boys and Girls Club of Brantford has grown into one of Brantford’s most effective youth service organizations, and is looking forward to enhancing their services to even better serve our community. The Boys and Girls Club of Brantford is all about levelling the playing field and providing opportunities for youth to reach their full potential by supporting their healthy physical, educational and social development.

Being a leading provider of after-school and critical-hours learning programs, the Boys and Girls Club has been recognized for significantly contributing to healthy lifestyle and development of youth when they need encouragement the most. With families and other partners in the community, the Boys and Girls Club will help youth to be healthy, confident, responsible and successful in life.

Once again, I am happy to celebrate this outstanding organization in my home riding of Brantford–Brant, and don’t be surprised if you hear lots of good news coming in the days and weeks to come.

Heritage conservation

Ms. Suze Morrison: Nestled in the Corktown neighbourhood in my riding in Toronto Centre, you will find the Dominion Wheel and Foundries buildings. Built between 1917 and 1928, the four buildings were heritage designated by the city of Toronto in 2008, but in early January, local residents called my office in a panic, as they saw demolition equipment assembling on the site. After speaking to construction workers, it was revealed that the provincially owned buildings were, in fact, being demolished. This was the first that my office, the city councillor’s office or the local community had even heard that our heritage buildings were being put at risk.

In the middle of a pandemic, this government took a wrecking ball to my community, but in Toronto Centre, we are no stranger to a good fight. A new group called Friends of the Foundry formed to defend our local heritage. The St. Lawrence Neighbourhood Association and the city mounted a legal challenge, and, at a hearing for an injunction, the justice presiding over the case agreed that the Premier and the Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing had broken Ontario’s heritage laws.

My community has a vision for that site: to see it repurposed as affordable housing and desperately needed community use space, like an arts complex, as proposed by the IRCPA. But this vision is not mutually exclusive to maintaining heritage. We can have and deserve to have both community-oriented development and heritage preservation.

To the Premier and to the minister: Respectfully, get out of Corktown, and hands off our foundry buildings.

Willowdale business improvement area

Mr. Stan Cho: I’m excited to share some long overdue news from my riding. On December 16, the Willowdale business improvement area, or BIA, was officially approved by Toronto city council. This is comprised of local main street businesses. And I’m proud to say that the BIA will work to carry out important improvements, like promoting economic development, financing revitalization projects, improving streetscapes, restoring building facades, organizing events like the Taste of the Danforth—perhaps the taste of Willowdale—and much, much more.

When COVID-19 hit our province, there became an immediate need to accelerate plans to establish a BIA in Willowdale to give critical assistance to local businesses, and on January 18, I was proud to attend their inaugural annual general meeting.

Willowdale is one of the most culturally diverse neighbourhoods in Canada and one of the highest population densities in the country. It’s also home to more than 1,800 businesses, many of which are restaurants, which have been hit very hard by this pandemic.

When COVID-19 is behind us, I invite everyone to take a stroll along Yonge Street north of the 401 and visit one of the many shops and restaurants that make our community special. Try some bibimbap, pho, pork bone soup, halo-halo, sabzi polo ba mahi or a juicy hamburger.

Congratulations to the Willowdale BIA on their founding, and I look forward to working closely with them to promote and improve the Willowdale business community.

Charles H. Best Diabetes Centre

Mr. Lorne Coe: I want to highlight this morning the work of the Charles H. Best Diabetes Centre in Whitby. For Durham residents coping with type 1 diabetes, these current conditions make dealing with this potentially fatal disease that much more difficult. This is where the Charles H. Best Diabetes Centre steps in to help. The nurses, dietitians and social workers work with thousands of patients, helping hospitals meet the growing needs in Durham region. The Best centre is saving lives, and now, during the pandemic, their programs and services are needed more than ever.

Due to the rapid residential growth in Durham region, the Best centre will need to double its size by 2026, with an estimated future growth of 93% over 10 years. To address this growing demand, the Best centre is undertaking a $5-million fundraising campaign to add to its current facilities. That campaign will be led by Dr. Gary Polonsky, one of the leaders of our community, to ensure that the one-of-a-kind centre will continue to provide direct care, education and support to the growing number of patients and families living in the great region of Durham.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): That concludes our members’ statements for this morning.

Farmers in India

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Point of order, the member for Brampton East.

Mr. Gurratan Singh: I rise today to call for unanimous consent for a moment of silence to remember the more than 200 farmers in India who have died peacefully protesting for their livelihood.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member for Brampton East is seeking the unanimous consent of the House for a moment of silence to remember the more than 200 farmers who have died in India while peacefully protesting for their livelihood. Agreed? Agreed. I’ll ask all members to rise.

The House observed a moment’s silence.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you very much.

Ms. Suze Morrison: Point of order.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Point of order, the member for Toronto Centre.

Ms. Suze Morrison: I’m seeking unanimous consent to move a motion regarding the immediate passage of Bill 244, the No COVID-19 Evictions Act, 2021, to help keep people from being evicted during COVID-19.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member for Toronto Centre is seeking unanimous consent to move a motion regarding the immediate passage of Bill 244, the No COVID-19 Evictions Act, 2021, to help keep people from being evicted during COVID-19. Agreed? I heard a no.

The member for York South–Weston, I believe, may have a point of order.

Mr. Faisal Hassan: I seek unanimous consent to immediately pass private member’s motion 135, calling on the Ford government to implement a COVID-19 equity strategy for racialized communities disproportionately affected by the pandemic.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member is seeking unanimous consent to immediately pass private member’s motion number 135, calling on the Ford government to implement a COVID-19 equity strategy for racialized communities disproportionately affected by the pandemic. Agreed? I heard a no.

Ms. Marit Stiles: Point of order.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Point of order, the member for Davenport.

Ms. Marit Stiles: I seek unanimous consent to immediately pass private member’s motion 137, calling on the Ford government to implement a back-to-school plan with improved funding for classroom caps, better ventilation and a safety committee made up of experts, parents, students, education workers, unions and boards.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member for Davenport is seeking the unanimous consent of the House to immediately pass private member’s motion 137, calling on the Ford government to implement a back-to-school plan with improved funding for classroom caps, better ventilation and a safety committee made up of experts, parents, students, education workers, unions and boards. Agreed? I heard a no.

It is now time for oral questions.

Question Period

COVID-19 response

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Speaker, my first question this morning is for the Premier. The Premier is determined to rush into a reopening of this province, regardless of the expert advice that he’s receiving from his own experts. In fact, yesterday, Dr. Yaffe very clearly said that ideally the government would wait before reopening, and that is at the same press conference where she identified the fact that the emergency brake that apparently the government is relying upon has no criteria; it’s not defined as yet—

Interruption.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: I apologize. That should have been off.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Order. The House will come to order.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. The House will come to order.

Restart the clock. I recognize the member.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Again, my apologies, Speaker.

The bottom line is Dr. Yaffe did say that there is no criteria in place for this emergency brake that apparently the Premier is relying upon. In fact, Global’s Alan Carter, as a result of this, said, “For better or worse, political leadership has overruled health advice.” So here we are. The Premier is literally hitting the gas when he doesn’t know how to use the emergency brake.

This is extremely disturbing, Speaker. Why is the Premier overruling the advice of his experts, the advice of doctors and continuing on this journey to reopen Ontario to—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The Premier.

Hon. Doug Ford: Through you, Mr. Speaker, I’ve always followed the advice of the chief medical officer, and we’re going to continue doing this while we make a transition into the framework. The Leader of the Opposition knows very well that at any given time, the local medical officer of health can put out a

section 22 and put a stop to any opening.

Again, we’re doing this very cautiously. We still have the vast majority of the population in Toronto and York and Peel determining if it’s going to go for another couple of weeks, based on the advice from their local medical officer of health, and we’re going to listen to that. I’m not too sure who the Leader of the Opposition is listening to, but I’m listening to the doctors, and I always will.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Well, Speaker, it is disturbing to see the lengths to which this government is prepared to go in order to justify the rushed reopening in our province. Last week, we saw the Minister of Education use data that was raised by the modelling table to justify the government’s reopening plan. In fact, just yesterday, Dr. Fisman, who is responsible for that data, that modelling, told QP Briefing that his work was “twisted and misinterpreted to justify bad policy choices.”

How can anyone believe that this government’s plan is safe when the experts are saying that their data, on which the government is apparently relying, is being twisted and misinterpreted?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The Minister of Education.

Hon. Stephen Lecce: The Chief Medical Officer of Health has provided guidance to the government to delay, not cancel, March break. If it is the position of the member opposite that we should be following the science and the medical experts, how can she undermine confidence in the medical leader of this province, who is trying to ensure every day we are able to recover and able to protect the public? I think that does a great disservice to our institutions. Honestly, I’m quite shocked that the Leader of the Opposition would undermine confidence in a leader who has provided guidance to this province to get us through the worst of this pandemic.

Our priority, Speaker, is to ensure that every day we follow that guidance. It’s why we’ve delayed it. And yes, the modelling did suggest that this new UK variant will become the dominant strain in and around the period of March break, which is why we deferred it, based on that medical expertise. In fact, the chair of the medical officers of health council provided that guidance. The public health measures table unanimously recommended that, and this Premier will follow that advice every step of the way.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The final supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: The minister can rest assured, it’s the Premier whose information I don’t trust. It’s the Premier who I have no confidence in whatsoever. Why? We have seen 3,800 seniors lose their lives in long-term care to COVID-19 under this Premier’s watch. We’ve seen 6,700 Ontarians lose their lives to COVID-19 because of this Premier’s decisions. And what are those decisions? He is not listening to the experts. In November, he claimed that the experts were good with his framework, his new framework that he unveiled, only to find out almost the very next day that in fact they hadn’t even seen the framework. That, Speaker, is very troubling.

Now, their experts are saying that the information that they are providing to the government is being twisted and is being misinterpreted. When will the Premier actually start listening to the hospitals, to the doctors, to his own experts and prevent this province from going into yet another third wave and lockdown?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The Premier to reply.

Hon. Doug Ford: Through you, Mr. Speaker: I’ve obviously listened to the chief medical officer from day one. I’ve never wavered from that. I’ve listened to all of the CEOs. Maybe if you talk to some of the CEOs of the hospitals, Leader of the Opposition, you might get some input—rather than sitting there and constantly criticizing from day one, putting confusion with the public about paid sick days.

Rather than sending inaccurate information out to the public and hurting the public, why don’t you come and join us to support the people of Ontario for once, rather than just sit there and criticize and criticize? It’s like listening to nails on a chalkboard, listening to you.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I’m going to remind all members to make their comments through the Chair and not directly across the floor.

Next question.

COVID-19 response

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Speaker, this Premier always goes to the worst, worst places when he doesn’t like the questions that the opposition is asking. But we’re going to keep asking them on behalf of Ontarians, on behalf of the people of this province.

Here is another one for him: We know very clearly that when people lose their homes, they cannot self-isolate. When they don’t have a place to live, they can’t actually do what they need to do and follow the public health advice when it comes to staying home, because they no longer have a home.

And yet this Premier, after just a couple of weeks of having an eviction ban in place, has lifted the eviction ban so that he’s going to push people onto the streets, he’s going to push people into couch-surfing, when everybody knows that that’s the wrong thing to do. Again, his experts have even identified that this is the wrong thing to do.

Last August, when that eviction ban was lifted, thousands of people ended up on the streets. Why is the Premier prepared to do that again?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing.

Hon. Steve Clark: Thanks for the question. Our government has been clear right from the start: During the pandemic, the Attorney General applied to the court and we had an eviction ban. When the stay-at-home order came forward late last year, our government moved forward with an eviction ban. And as some of those areas move out of the stay-at-home order—for example, my riding moved out this week—the eviction moratorium will be lifted. Again, it’s a situation that we’ll continue to monitor. The Attorney General and I will continue to have conversations.

But make no mistake, Speaker, through you to the Leader of the Opposition, we’ve stood up for tenants. We’ve tried to help with our municipal partners. We’ve provided over half a billion dollars to our municipal partners to help keep our most vulnerable housed, and we’ll continue to support them.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The supplementary question.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Speaker, the Premier’s own experts, his own advisers, have said the right thing to do is to maintain an eviction ban during a worldwide pandemic. Dr. Brown, the head of the science table, supports the eviction ban, saying, “Supporting people so that they can do what’s right for public health” is what is the right thing to do.

Unfortunately, once again, the Premier is not listening to the advice of the experts. In fact, a US study that was done following the lifting of an eviction ban there showed that the COVID-19 virus hit 150,000 more people, specifically because they lifted their eviction ban.

So why is the Premier not listening to the experts and prepared to force people out on the streets during a worldwide pandemic?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Minister of Municipal Affairs.

Hon. Steve Clark: Speaker, again, to reiterate my previous answer, our government continues to work with our municipal partners to ensure that our most vulnerable are housed in this situation.

In fact, to take a page from the Premier’s playbook, when he talked about things you can do to help us, I recently wrote to my federal counterpart, the Honourable Ahmed Hussen, to point out that our share of the National Housing Strategy, compared to the amount of houses in need, lacked 6%. While that might not seem like a big number, it works out to $490 million. So, you know what I’ll do, Speaker? I’ll send that letter to the Leader of the Opposition and I’ll call on her to help support us so that we can have additional monies from the federal government to help our most vulnerable.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The final supplementary.

Ms. Andrea Horwath: Speaker, I would never support a government that throws people out in the cold during a worldwide pandemic. I would never do something like that because it’s the wrong thing to do.

In fact, this government continues to disregard all of the advice that they’re getting from all experts on every front. The evictions ban is one example. The lack of paid sick days in this province is another example. The premature lifting of lockdowns and not doing anything to prevent the further spread of COVID-19 in terms of extra health measures is yet another failure of this government.

Why is this government continuing to silence the experts, continuing to ignore the advice they’re getting and continuing to head down on this wrong-headed road of opening too soon, without proper measures in place?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The Premier to reply.

Hon. Doug Ford: Mr. Speaker, if you want to talk about hypocrisy at its best—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): You’re going to have to withdraw.

Hon. Doug Ford: Withdraw. Sorry. I apologize.

If you want to hear people talking out of both sides of their mouth, Mr. Speaker, that —

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I’m going to ask you to withdraw.

Hon. Doug Ford: I withdraw.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Please conclude your answer.

Hon. Doug Ford: Let me cut to the chase. Let me cut to the chase, here. The Leader of the Opposition is saying that I’m not listening to the experts, but the Leader of the Opposition and the whole party voted against extending the chief medical officer’s term. What gives there? You can’t have it both ways. You can’t vote against the chief medical officer and say, “We don’t want this chief medical officer anymore,” and then accuse us of not actually listening.

You know, the NDP and the Liberals are the party of “no.” They’re the party of pessimism. We’re the party of the people. We’re the party of “yes.” We can get it done and we will get it done. That’s the difference.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The House will come to order.

The member for Waterloo will come to order and the Premier will come to order.

The next question.

School safety

Ms. Marit Stiles: Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Parents, students and education workers are doing incredible work to stay safe and stop the spread of COVID-19, but they cannot go it alone. Kids are back in person in schools today in areas like Peel—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Order. I’ll give you extra time.

Ms. Marit Stiles: Schools are back—

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The government side, come to order.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Stop the clock. The government side will come to order.

I’m going to give the member for Davenport adequate time to place her question. Start the clock.

Ms. Marit Stiles: Keeping it classy over there.

I’m going to start again, because I think what’s important to acknowledge is the incredibly hard and important work that our education workers, our students and our staff are doing to keep our schools safe in this province, when we are seeing kids having to return to school today in hard-hit areas of this province like Toronto and Peel.

Today, the Premier has a chance. He can change his failed approach to safe schools by fast-tracking my motion to cap class sizes, expand asymptomatic testing and improve ventilation. Instead of more half measures and hoping for the best, will the Premier finally stand up for students, school staff and their families and pass our motion without delay?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The Minister of Education to reply.

Hon. Stephen Lecce: Mr. Speaker, this government was standing up for students when we safely reopened schools, contrary to the position of the opposition parties, who have called on the government to extend the stay-at-home order and, therefore, keep our schools closed, offside from the public opinion of working parents, who want their children in class for their mental health and for their development.

We are proud that our schools are open, that every child is learning in class in this province, supported by 3,400 net new teachers and an additional 890 more teachers to reduce class sizes. But it’s not just about that, Speaker. It’s that 95% of our ventilation systems have been improved. It’s the fact that we have 1,400 more custodians working in our schools and an additional 400 to be hired. We have adopted all advice from the Chief Medical Officer of Health, who has fully approved our plan, fully funded by this government, because we are committed to keeping our schools open and keeping them safe.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The supplementary question.

Ms. Marit Stiles: Well, Speaker, the minister’s so-called plan won’t see broad testing until at least five weeks after most boards have reopened. Once again, they’re downloading all the responsibility onto school boards because they can’t make a decision. Frankly, it is a mystery why this loose plan for testing is only beginning now.

The Premier may recall that the Ministry of Education memos that were obtained by the Toronto Star in January showed that staff were prepared to announce in-school surveillance testing last summer, but we didn’t see any testing until November.

Speaker, can the minister explain why, despite recommendations from experts, from ministry staff, he chose to water down and delay a testing plan that could have detected more cases, informed a stronger response and, yes, saved lives?

Hon. Stephen Lecce: The members opposite have spent the past six months suggesting that schools haven’t been safe. The Leader of the Opposition commenced her questions today suggesting we should listen to the experts. The Chief Medical Officer of Health has suggested that schools have been safe. The medical officers of health in the regions we have reopened have given their green light to do so because they know it is safe, because we have personally consulted with them to ensure that we build confidence.

The fact is, within our schools, we had a low rate of transmission, according to the CMOH. In fact—

Interjection.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The member for Davenport, come to order.

Hon. Stephen Lecce: —over 90% of cases came from community into our schools. Eight out of 10 schools didn’t even have a case of COVID when we closed them ahead of the holidays, at the peak of transmission in 2020.

The fact is, leading medical experts have suggested schools have been safe, and that’s going to be supported by expansion of asymptomatic testing. In public health regions across the province, they can deploy it where they need it, to make sure we identify cases and we keep the schools safe and, ultimately, keep them open in Ontario.

Interjection.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I’m going to ask the member for Davenport once again to come to order.

The next question.

Natural gas pipeline

Mr. Robert Bailey: My question is to the Premier. Premier, in late December, my riding received some truly devastating news: The government of Michigan, through its governor, Governor Whitmer, announced that they would be revoking and terminating the Enbridge line 5 easement agreement in the straits of Mackinac.

Line 5 has been safely in operation for over 68 years, transporting western oil and natural gas liquids from Superior, Wisconsin, through Michigan to Sarnia as part of Enbridge’s pipeline system. Line 5 is a key energy conduit artery. Its continued operation is necessary to meet the energy demands of Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Ontario and Quebec.

In Sarnia–Lambton alone, over 5,000 people are directly employed by the petrochemical and fuel industry. A further 23,500 jobs in my community are directly related to providing services and supporting the refining and chemical industry. Speaker, can the Premier please share what the cancellation of line 5 would mean to the rest of the province?

Hon. Doug Ford: I thank the member from Sarnia.

You know, Mr. Speaker, I put a call in to Governor Whitmer. I’m waiting to hear back. We put letters in there. I don’t think the governor understands the destruction she is creating, along with their Attorney General, down there. I know the member has been working around the clock as well with his counterparts in the US. We’re communicating back and forth to congressmen, senators—anyone who wants to listen down there.

The decision, again, by the governor of Michigan, to terminate the easement agreement is totally unacceptable. The decision will directly impact 5,000 jobs in Sarnia and surrounding areas, not to mention all the indirect jobs throughout the province—thousands—and not to mention our great neighbours south of the border, that that’s going to create absolute chaos down there, tens of thousands of jobs.

I’ll give you an example: Pearson airport, the largest airport in Toronto. It’s in my riding, surrounded by other ridings as well. It’s going to be shut down. How are we going to get from point A to point B? How are going to get goods from point A to point B when they want to cut off this line? It’s—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you. The supplementary question.

Mr. Robert Bailey: Thank you, Premier, for that answer. I would like to make my supplemental question back to the Premier as well.

Premier, federal Natural Resources Minister O’Regan said it best: The only way to address this issue will need a “Team Canada approach.”

For more than six decades, Enbridge’s line 5 has meant good-paying jobs for Ontario and Michigan workers. It’s hard to overstate its significance to our shared economies and to good union jobs and non-union jobs. Line 5 safely delivers fuel that powers our job sites, that heats our homes, that makes so many thousands of jobs possible—like at the airport, for the fuel. Over the last six-plus decades, it has meant consistent, reliable work for the union labourers and businesses who work on and with the infrastructure and the industry that supports it.

As our province recovers from COVID-19, these kinds of jobs are more important than ever. Speaker, can the Premier please share with my constituents and this House about his concern for the cancellation of this project and how we will support the working men and women of my riding?

Hon. Doug Ford: Again, we’re fighting for the people of Sarnia and the people of Ontario. We’re here to fix the problem collectively, not separately. I implore the Prime Minister, the Leader of the Opposition, the leader of the Liberals—it doesn’t matter if you’re green, purple, pink—whatever party you’re from, we need to fight for Ontario jobs. I’m encouraging her, again, if the Leader of the Opposition is listening, to join us to fight for jobs.

Let me quote from Scott Archer, UA Local 663 pipefitters’ union, which are big supporters, about the effect of ending line 5: “Basically, it would kick the legs out from under every refinery in town. It would have a devastating effect on employment in Sarnia.”

I ask the Leader of the Opposition, are you pro-worker? Are you pro-union? Then join us, because we’re the party for the working class, not the NDP and not the Liberals.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Once again, I will ask members to make their comments through the Chair.

The next question.

Tenant protection

Ms. Suze Morrison: My question is for the Premier. Three months ago, I stood in this Legislature and demanded that this government take action on COVID evictions and to protect tenants. This Legislature passed my motion to ban COVID evictions with unanimous consent. We agreed that this issue is a priority of this House. But months later, this government has once again failed tenants. Thousands of tenants are at risk of losing their homes as this government resumes evictions while we are still in the middle of a pandemic.

Why is the Premier putting corporate landlords ahead of the health and safety of tenants who are being tossed out of their homes?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing.

Hon. Steve Clark: To prevent the spread of COVID-19, our government implemented a stay-at-home order. While that stay-at-home order was in force, we had our second residential eviction moratorium. As I said earlier in the House, in response to the Leader of the Opposition, that stay-at-home order is being removed in a number of areas. As they’re being removed—the last one will be Toronto, Peel and York, on February 22—we’ll move back into the framework.

Again, Speaker, through you to the member: Yes, this item was debated in the House; yes, our party supported it; and yes, we implemented it during the stay-at-home order.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The supplementary question.

Ms. Suze Morrison: Respectfully, Speaker, to the minister, the pandemic’s not over yet.

Since this pandemic started, I have heard from tenants across the province. People have lost their jobs, they have lost their income, they have lost their small businesses—all through no fault of their own. Many of these tenants believed this Premier when he said that no one would lose their home during this pandemic. But instead of having any compassion for people in their time of need, this government rammed through thousands of eviction hearings over the last few months.

I have just received news earlier this morning that a member of my community in Toronto Centre died in a tent fire in a homeless encampment in my riding, in Toronto Centre. Lives are literally—quite literally—at risk here.

My bill to stop COVID evictions will be voted on today. Will the Premier and his government vote for this bill to save lives and help stop the spread of COVID-19 and give folks the help and the hope that they need to get through this?

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): I’ll ask the members to take their seats.

Minister of Municipal Affairs to reply.

Hon. Steve Clark: My thoughts and my prayers go out to the person who lost their life, and to their family.

Since the pandemic, our government has delivered more housing dollars to municipalities to help our most vulnerable than ever before. Again, I want to reiterate that, based on our core housing need, our government is being shorted. And I know it doesn’t sound like a lot—it’s only 6%—but the difference between 38% and 44% of core housing needs equates to $490 million that I believe the federal government owes Ontario. I believe they owe it to those homeless—I believe they owe it to those people who are struggling to be housed.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Order.

Hon. Steve Clark: We will continue—no matter whether the member opposite wants to shout me down—to stand up for our most vulnerable, we will continue to tell the federal government we need our share, and we will continue to build housing that helps people in this province.

Long-term care

Mr. Roman Baber: My question is to the Premier. As early as May of last year, we began to understand that almost 80% of Ontarians who tragically died from or with COVID died in congregate living settings. According to ministry data, almost 60% of all fatalities are seniors in long-term-care homes. Now, not only did this government fail to make that meaningful distinction and focus protection where it’s required, the government utterly failed to protect our long-term-care seniors.

Dr. Gary Garber, the former medical director of infection prevention and control at Public Health Ontario, recently testified before the long-term-care commission that bureaucratic concerns prevented a highly trained team of infection prevention and control experts at Public Health Ontario from helping in Ontario’s long-term-care homes. Professionals specifically trained for this very situation were told to maintain a low profile in order to avoid being subsumed by the newly created Ontario Health.

My question to the Premier: When did the government learn that this IPAC team was not deployed? Second, when was this team fully deployed? Finally, and I ask that the response be precise, how many out of Ontario’s 636 long-term-care homes have an approved and implemented infection protocol and control in place today?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The response: the government House leader.

Hon. Paul Calandra: I appreciate the question. I will, of course, note that the member opposite voted in favour of every single measure that this government has taken in order to bring this pandemic under control. We’re certainly grateful for the support that he gave in order for us to take the measures that we’ve taken to combat the pandemic, Mr. Speaker.

We will continue to make important investments, not only in health care but in long-term care, to ensure that our communities remain safe. I certainly hope that the member opposite will reflect on how important it is to take all the steps necessary to keep the people of the province of Ontario safe, as this Premier has done, as the members of this caucus have done, and quite frankly, for a number of months, as all members of this Legislature have done. We should be proud of the work that we’ve accomplished. I hope the member will reflect on that, Mr. Speaker, and continue to support all of the measures that he has supported throughout the pandemic.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The supplementary question?

Mr. Roman Baber: Speaker, I have not heard a response to how many of Ontario’s long-term-care homes have an approved and implemented infection protocol and control in place today.

My follow-up question is to the Premier. The tragedy in long-term care is the responsibility of this government. Since the first declaration of emergency 11 months ago, and having had more than four months this summer to prepare for the second wave, the government still cannot fix the crisis in long-term-care homes. One of the main reasons for the crisis is a chronic shortage of staff, leading not only to deplorable conditions but failure to implement a proper infection protocol. Temporary and agency workers are still allowed to work at more than one home.

While this government is continuing to lock down the province, all it takes is one—one worker—to bring COVID into a long-term-care home, resulting in disaster.

On January 13, the Prime Minister offered the Premier military assistance, qualified personnel to help with staffing. In response, the Premier said, “I never refuse help.” My question to the Premier: Why hasn’t the Premier accepted help from the Canadian Armed Forces? Why do dozens of homes remain short-staffed when this government can help the situation today by accepting help? Is it because the Premier does not want another military report on the conditions he and his government—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you very much. Again, the government House leader to reply.

Hon. Paul Calandra: I guess I’m somewhat surprised to hear that the member opposite, who for many months voted in favour of all of the measures that we took to protect the people of the province of Ontario with respect to COVID-19—I’m surprised to hear that now he has had a significant change of heart and that he apparently, I guess, voted in a way that he didn’t want to vote, Mr. Speaker.

I hope that he will reflect on that and reflect on the important role of members of Parliament to do their duty and their jobs effectively. I know that that’s what this Premier, this Minister of Health, this Minister of Long-Term Care and all members of the governing caucus have done, and quite frankly, all of the members of this Legislature have done in helping Ontario be one of the leading jurisdictions in North America in terms of its response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Is there more work to be done? Absolutely, there is, Mr. Speaker. But I can tell the member opposite that we will not be taking his new advice, which is to stop all of the protocols that have kept the people of the province of Ontario safe. We won’t be doing that. We will continue on the path that we have that has kept people safe and kept our—

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Thank you very much. The next question.

Green power generation

Ms. Jane McKenna: Recent projections suggest a significant increase in the global hydrogen production market, from an estimated $103 billion in 2017 to an expected $207 billion by 2026. The current trends also indicate that for Ontario, adopting hydrogen at a high rate could generate $2.5 billion of spending per year, promoting long-term economic recovery, and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

Under the previous Liberal government, environmental progress stalled. Instead of implementing effective and pragmatic policies, the Liberals ignored expert advice that could have saved Ontarians billions of dollars in green energy spending. Mr. Speaker, putting Ontario on a more sustainable path should not come at the expense of the hard-working people of this province.

Can the Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks please share with the members of this House how this government plans to utilize innovation to address climate change and reduce emissions in Ontario?

Hon. Jeff Yurek: Thanks to the member from Burlington for a great, great question.

Our government’s vision for a low-carbon hydrogen economy will help to advance the progress that we have made over the past two years with our Made-in-Ontario Environment Plan. Supporting the growth of this sector will ensure that we are helping to lower Ontario’s greenhouse gas emissions over the long term, that we are supporting a reliable and affordable energy system in Ontario, and that we are reducing regulatory barriers and supporting partnerships with the private sector, academia and other governments.

Mr. Speaker, we have an opportunity to make it easier for private investors to deploy their low-carbon technologies and infrastructure and ramp up the production of this energy source. This means Ontario will have more electric, hydrogen and other low-carbon vehicles without government subsidies or increased costs to consumers.

We recognize the important role that hydrogen can play in the future of this province, and we view it as an important path forward to addressing climate change and lowering our greenhouse gas emissions.

We’re standing with this strategy; we hope the members opposite get on board.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The supplementary question.

Ms. Jane McKenna: The impacts of the COVID-19 outbreak have been felt across Ontario by families, workers, businesses and communities. During these challenging times, it has never been more important to encourage new industries to contribute to Ontario’s economic recovery while addressing climate change in new, strategic ways.

We know Ontario is well positioned to drive growth in a low-carbon hydrogen economy. Our location within the Great Lakes region is beneficial for trade with the US, and we have supportive provincial policies and programs in place to help us grow the hydrogen market.

Supporting innovative energy sectors can be done without creating skyrocketing energy prices—something the previous Liberal government ignored when they enacted their failed Green Energy Act that cost Ontarians billions of their hard-earned dollars.

I know this government recently released a hydrogen discussion paper. Can the Minister of the Environment, Conservation and Parks tell us more about how this paper will inform the creation of Ontario’s first hydrogen strategy?

Hon. Jeff Yurek: Thanks again to the member from Burlington for that question.

Mr. Speaker, Ontario is not alone in its interest in hydrogen. But we do have a competitive advantage to drive growth in a low-carbon hydrogen economy, unlike any other region. Our natural gas infrastructure and low-carbon electricity has allowed the province to avoid up to 30 megatonnes of greenhouse gas emissions per year.

Our discussion paper sets out our vision for our new hydrogen economy that will build on our existing strengths, where we can create more local jobs and attract investment while helping reduce greenhouse gas emissions using low-carbon hydrogen, especially in the transportation sector.

There is great potential in the low-carbon hydrogen economy. By using this domestic hydrogen, we would import less natural gas from countries such as the United States. This would keep energy dollars in our province, leading to spinoff benefits such as the creation of more jobs. More importantly, this will improve Ontario’s trade balance by $3.2 billion per year.

COVID-19 response

Mr. Faisal Hassan: While the COVID-19 crisis has hit our province hard, we know that some families are feeling the pain more than the others. Black, Indigenous and racialized Ontarians; low-income families; and women—these Ontarians are the ones who have been left to suffer while this Premier chose to stand by and watch.

My question, Mr. Speaker, through you to the Premier: Why, when you know your decisions have hurt some Ontarians more than others, would you vote against my motion to adapt a COVID-19 equity strategy?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Government House leader to respond.

Hon. Paul Calandra: I’m sorry, Speaker; principally, as the member knows, quite honestly—and we’ve seen this over the last day—these are issues that are brought forward at the House leaders’ table. Typically, we don’t like to be caught by surprise by motions that are brought to the table. As we have done the entire time since I’ve been House leader, and before me, motions that are brought to the table by surprise are going to be voted down. That’s just the way the process works.

I encourage the honourable member, if he wants to bring forward a motion for debate that this whole House can consider, he should use his time that is available to him. The member will know he had a lot of time to pass a private member’s bill. I was happy to work with him to pass his private member’s bill by following the process.

I would encourage the member, when the member has a spot available to him, to do it in the proper fashion so that all members of provincial Parliament can have a say in that. If it’s something that is appropriate for us to pass, we’ll pass it. If it’s not, we’ll vote it down.

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): Supplementary question?

Mr. Faisal Hassan: You got the letter last week.

We know what happens when we don’t have an equity strategy: Some people suffer more than others. We’re seeing it in York South–Weston. Many families in my community are now on the front lines of this crisis because this government chose not to support them or help them stay safe at home.

Mr. Speaker, again through you to the Premier: Will you commit to ensuring that your government’s pandemic response, from vaccine rollout to financial recovery, has a plan to help those who have been hurt the most?

The Speaker (Hon. Ted Arnott): The government House leader again.

Hon. Paul Calandra: Again, Mr. Speaker, just to talk a little bit about the process, the House leader teams have met on three separate occasions, and at no time were any of the motions the member or the Leader of the Opposition talked about or the unanimous consents that we have seen ever brought to the table for priority consideration by the NDP.

The letter in question that they talk about was actually sent to my constituency office. I didn’t receive it until yesterday. But as I say to the honourable gentleman through you, Mr. Speaker, this House considers private members’ motions and private members’ bills. There’s a process in place to do that, and the appropriate way to do that is the same way as his private member’s bill which passed earlier, which was a good bill. I was proud to support it, and all members were proud to support it.

If you have a quality piece of legislation, if you have a quality motion, this House will give it its due consideration and will pass it, but surprises will always be voted down by this side of the House because we have to give it consideration in the appropriate fashion.

Children’s mental health services

M me Lucille Collard: I want to address a question to the Minister of Education and talk about mental health supports for our children. Since the beginning of the pandemic, we have been seeing an increasing number of children with mental health problems at the elementary level and at the high school level. The constant changing of rules and the need to adapt to multiple teaching experiences that actually vary in their effectiveness are making it more difficult for students to stay motivated and to get support when they need it.

Now the government has invested $42.5 million as part of its fall preparedness plan to support students with special needs and provide students with mental health supports, and that’s great, but my question to the minister is, can the government explain how it is actually monitoring the implementation of this investment and how it monitors the effectiveness of the supports?

Hon. Stephen Lecce: Thank you to the member opposite for the question. I think we all share a deep concern about the mental health impacts of the pandemic on all students in the province and country. It is why we enhanced funding in Jun

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