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Sixth Session, 40th Parliament OFFICIAL REPORT OF DEBATES OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY (HANSARD) THE HONOURABLE LINDA REID, SPEAKER ISSN 0709-1281 (P rint) ISSN 1499-2175 (Online) Thursday, February 23, 2017 Afternoon Sitting Volume 42, Number 2

PROVINCE OF BRITISH COLUMBIA (Entered Confederation July 20, 1871) LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR Her Honour the Honourable Judith Guichon, OBC Sixth Session, 40th Parliament SPEAKER OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Honourable Linda Reid EXECUTIVE COUNCIL Premier and President of the Executive Council .............................................................................................................. Hon. Christy Clark Deputy Premier and Minister of Natural Gas Development and Minister Responsible for Housing ......................Hon.

Rich Coleman Minister of Aboriginal Relations and Reconciliation ......................................................................................................... Hon. John Rustad Minister of Advanced Education ............................................................................................................................... Hon. Andrew Wilkinson Minister of Agriculture ........................................................................................................................................................ Hon.

Norm Letnick Minister of Children and Family Development .......................................................................................................Hon. Stephanie Cadieux Minister of Community, Sport and Cultural Development and Minister Responsible for TransLink ................ Hon. Peter Fassbender Minister of Education ............................................................................................................................................................Hon.

Mike Bernier Minister of Energy and Mines and Minister Responsible for Core Review .....................................................................Hon. Bill Bennett Minister of Environment ..........................................................................................................................................................Hon. Mary Polak Minister of Finance .................................................................................................................................................. Hon.

Michael de Jong, QC Minister of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations......................................................................................Hon. Steve Thomson Minister of State for Rural Economic Development ..................................................................................................................Hon. Donna Barnett Minister of Health ............................................................................................................................................................... Hon. Dr.

Terry Lake Minister of International Trade and Minister Responsible for Asia Pacific Strategy and Multiculturalism ...........................................................................................Hon. T eresa W at Minister of Jobs, Tourism and Skills Training and Minister Responsible for Labour ...................................................Hon. Shirley Bond Minister of Justice ...................................................................................................................................................... Hon.

Suzanne Anton, QC Minister of Public Safety and Solicitor General ................................................................................................................. Hon. Mike Morris Minister of Small Business and Red T ape Reduction and Minister Responsible for the Liquor Distribution Branch ........................................................................................................Hon. Coralee Oakes Minister of Social Development and Social Innovation..............................................................................................Hon.

Michelle Stilwell Minister of Technology, Innovation and Citizens' Services ................................................................................................ Hon. Amrik Virk Minister of Transportation and Infrastructure ......................................................................................................................Hon. Todd Stone Minister of State for Emergency Preparedness ....................................................................................................................Hon.

Naomi Y amamoto LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Leader of the Official Opposition ...................................................................................................................................................John Horgan Deputy Speaker .............................................................................................................................................................................. Richard T. Lee Assistant Deputy Speaker ...............................................................................................................................................................

Raj Chouhan Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole .................................................................................................................................... Simon Gibson Clerk of the Legislative Assembly ................................................................................................................................................... Craig James Deputy Clerk and Clerk of Committees .................................................................................................................................

Kate Ryan-Lloyd Clerk Assistant — Committees and Interparliamentary Relations ..........................................................................................Susan Sourial Sessional Law Clerk ............................................................................................................................................. Loredana Catalli-Sonier, QC Sergeant-at-Arms ................................................................................................................................................................................. Gary Lenz

ALPHABETICAL LIST OF MEMBERS Anton, Hon. Suzanne, QC (BC Liberal) ...................... Vancouver-Fraserview Ashton, Dan (BC Liberal).....................................................................Penticton Austin, Robin (NDP) ................................................................................ Skeena Bains, Harry (NDP) ....................................................................Surrey-Newton Barnett, Hon. Donna (BC Liberal) ..................................... Cariboo-Chilcotin Bennett, Hon.

Bill (BC Liberal) ...................................................Kootenay East Bernier, Hon. Mike (BC Liberal) ......................................... Peace River South Bing, Dr. Doug (BC Liberal) ................................ Maple Ridge–Pitt Meadows Bond, Hon. Shirley (BC Liberal) ...........................Prince George–Valemount Cadieux, Hon. Stephanie (BC Liberal) ................................Surrey-Cloverdale Chandra Herbert, Spencer (NDP) .................................Vancouver–West End Chouhan, Raj (NDP) ........................................................... Burnaby-Edmonds Clark, Hon.

Christy (BC Liberal) ........................................ Westside-Kelowna Coleman, Hon. Rich (BC Liberal) ...........................Fort Langley–Aldergrove Conroy, Katrine (NDP) .............................................................. Kootenay West Corrigan, Kathy (NDP) ..................................................... Burnaby–Deer Lake Dalton, Marc (BC Liberal) ............................................. Maple Ridge–Mission Darcy, Judy (NDP) ..................................................................New Westminster de Jong, Hon. Michael, QC (BC Liberal) ..............................

Abbotsford West Dix, Adrian (NDP)............................................................Vancouver-Kingsway Donaldson, Doug (NDP) ......................................................................... Stikine Eby, David (NDP) ..........................................................Vancouver–Point Grey Elmore, Mable (NDP) ................................................... Vancouver-Kensington Farnworth, Mike (NDP) ............................................................ Port Coquitlam Fassbender, Hon. Peter (BC Liberal) ...................................

Surrey-Fleetwood Fleming, Rob (NDP) .......................................................... Victoria–Swan Lake Foster, Eric (BC Liberal) .......................................................Vernon-Monashee Fraser, Scott (NDP) ............................................................Alberni–Pacific Rim Gibson, Simon (BC Liberal) ............................................. Abbotsford-Mission Hamilton, Wm. Scott (BC Liberal) .................................................Delta North Hammell, Sue (NDP) ....................................................

Surrey–Green Timbers Heyman, George (NDP) .................................................... Vancouver-Fairview Hogg, Gordon (BC Liberal) ............................................... Surrey–White Rock Holman, Gary (NDP) .......................................Saanich North and the Islands Horgan, John (NDP) .......................................................................

Juan de Fuca Hunt, Marvin (BC Liberal) ....................................................Surrey-Panorama Huntington, Vicki (Ind.) ..................................................................Delta South James, Carole (NDP) .........................................................Victoria–Beacon Hill Karagianis, Maurine (NDP) ........................................Esquimalt–Royal Roads Krog, Leonard Eugene (NDP) ............................................................. Nanaimo Kyllo, Greg (BC Liberal) ........................................................................ Shuswap Lake, Hon. Dr.

Terry (BC Liberal) ....................Kamloops–North Thompson Larson, Linda (BC Liberal) .........................................Boundary-Similkameen Lee, Richard T. (BC Liberal) ......................................................Burnaby North Letnick, Hon. Norm (BC Liberal) ..............................Kelowna–Lake Country Macdonald, Norm (NDP) ....................................Columbia River–Revelstoke McRae, Don (BC Liberal) ............................................................ Comox Valley Mark, Melanie (NDP) ...........................................

Vancouver–Mount Pleasant Martin, John (BC Liberal) ..................................................................Chilliwack Morris, Hon. Mike (BC Liberal) ........................... Prince George–Mackenzie Mungall, Michelle (NDP) ..........................................................Nelson-Creston Oakes, Hon. Coralee (BC Liberal) .............................................Cariboo North Pimm, Pat (Ind.) .....................................................................Peace River North Plecas, Dr. Darryl (BC Liberal) .............................................Abbotsford South Polak, Hon.

Mary (BC Liberal) ..............................................................Langley Popham, Lana (NDP) ...................................................................Saanich South Ralston, Bruce (NDP) ................................................................ Surrey-Whalley Reid, Hon. Linda (BC Liberal) ..................................................Richmond East Reimer, Linda (BC Liberal) ........................................

Port Moody–Coquitlam Rice, Jennifer (NDP) ........................................................................North Coast Robinson, Selina (NDP) .............................................Coquitlam-Maillardville Routley, Bill (NDP) .................................................................. Cowichan Valley Routley, Doug (NDP) ............................................Nanaimo–North Cowichan Rustad, Hon. John (BC Liberal) ................................................ Nechako Lakes Shin, Dr.

Jane Jae Kyung (NDP) .........................................Burnaby-Lougheed Simons, Nicholas (NDP) ................................... Powell River–Sunshine Coast Simpson, Shane (NDP) .....................................................Vancouver-Hastings Stilwell, Hon. Michelle (BC Liberal)............................... Parksville-Qualicum Stilwell, Dr. Moira (BC Liberal) ........................................ Vancouver-Langara Stone, Hon. Todd (BC Liberal) .........................

Kamloops–South Thompson Sturdy, Jordan (BC Liberal) ..................................West Vancouver–Sea to Sky Sullivan, Sam (BC Liberal) ...........................................Vancouver–False Creek Sultan, Ralph (BC Liberal) ..................................... West Vancouver–Capilano Tegart, Jackie (BC Liberal) ............................................................Fraser-Nicola Thomson, Hon. Steve (BC Liberal) .......................................Kelowna-Mission Thornthwaite, Jane (BC Liberal) ..........................

North Vancouver–Seymour Throness, Laurie (BC Liberal).................................................Chilliwack-Hope Trevena, Claire (NDP) .................................................................... North Island Virk, Hon. Amrik (BC Liberal) ............................................. Surrey-Tynehead Wat, Hon. Teresa (BC Liberal) .............................................. Richmond Centre Weaver, Dr. Andrew (Ind.) .......................................... Oak Bay–Gordon Head Wickens, Jodie (NDP) ..........................................Coquitlam–Burke Mountain Wilkinson, Hon.

Andrew (BC Liberal) ........................ Vancouver-Quilchena Y amamoto, Hon. Naomi (BC Liberal) ................ North Vancouver–Lonsdale Y ap, John (BC Liberal) ......................................................Richmond-Steveston LIST OF MEMBERS BY RIDING Abbotsford-Mission ......................................................................Simon Gibson Abbotsford South ..................................................................... Dr. Darryl Plecas Abbotsford West ...................................................... Hon.

Michael de Jong, QC Alberni–Pacific Rim .......................................................................... Scott Fraser Boundary-Similkameen ................................................................ Linda Larson Burnaby–Deer Lake ................................................................... Kathy Corrigan Burnaby-Edmonds ..........................................................................Raj Chouhan Burnaby-Lougheed ...................................................... Dr. Jane Jae Kyung Shin Burnaby North ..............................................................................

Richard T. Lee Cariboo-Chilcotin ..............................................................Hon. Donna Barnett Cariboo North .................................................................... Hon. Coralee Oakes Chilliwack ......................................................................................... John Martin Chilliwack-Hope ....................................................................... Laurie Throness Columbia River–Revelstoke ..................................................

Norm Macdonald Comox Valley.....................................................................................Don McRae Coquitlam–Burke Mountain .......................................................Jodie Wickens Coquitlam-Maillardville........................................................... Selina Robinson Cowichan Valley ................................................................................ Bill Routley Delta North .........................................................................Wm.

Scott Hamilton Delta South...............................................................................Vicki Huntington Esquimalt–Royal Roads .....................................................Maurine Karagianis Fort Langley–Aldergrove ...................................................Hon. Rich Coleman Fraser-Nicola.................................................................................... Jackie Tegart Juan de Fuca .....................................................................................John Horgan Kamloops–North Thompson ............................................ Hon. Dr.

Terry Lake Kamloops–South Thompson ..................................................Hon. Todd Stone Kelowna–Lake Country ..................................................... Hon. Norm Letnick Kelowna-Mission .............................................................. Hon. Steve Thomson Kootenay East .......................................................................... Hon. Bill Bennett Kootenay West ............................................................................ Katrine Conroy Langley.......................................................................................Hon.

Mary Polak Maple Ridge–Mission ..................................................................... Marc Dalton Maple Ridge–Pitt Meadows ........................................................ Dr. Doug Bing Nanaimo ........................................................................... Leonard Eugene Krog Nanaimo–North Cowichan ......................................................... Doug Routley Nechako Lakes ........................................................................ Hon.

John Rustad Nelson-Creston ........................................................................Michelle Mungall New Westminster ............................................................................... Judy Darcy North Coast......................................................................................Jennifer Rice North Island .................................................................................. Claire Trevena North Vancouver–Lonsdale ........................................Hon.

Naomi Y amamoto North Vancouver–Seymour ..................................................Jane Thornthwaite Oak Bay–Gordon Head ...................................................... Dr. Andrew Weaver Parksville-Qualicum .......................................................Hon. Michelle Stilwell Peace River North ................................................................................ Pat Pimm Peace River South ..................................................................Hon. Mike Bernier Penticton............................................................................................

Dan Ashton Port Coquitlam ..........................................................................Mike Farnworth Port Moody–Coquitlam ................................................................Linda Reimer Powell River–Sunshine Coast ................................................. Nicholas Simons Prince George–Mackenzie ....................................................Hon. Mike Morris Prince George–Valemount ...................................................Hon. Shirley Bond Richmond Centre ......................................................................Hon.

Teresa Wat Richmond East ..........................................................................Hon. Linda Reid Richmond-Steveston ..............................................................................John Y ap Saanich North and the Islands .................................................... Gary Holman Saanich South ................................................................................

Lana Popham Shuswap ................................................................................................Greg Kyllo Skeena .............................................................................................. Robin Austin Stikine ....................................................................................... Doug Donaldson Surrey-Cloverdale ....................................................... Hon. Stephanie Cadieux Surrey-Fleetwood ........................................................... Hon.

Peter Fassbender Surrey–Green Timbers ..................................................................Sue Hammell Surrey-Newton ................................................................................. Harry Bains Surrey-Panorama ........................................................................... Marvin Hunt Surrey-Tynehead ......................................................................Hon. Amrik Virk Surrey-Whalley..............................................................................

Bruce Ralston Surrey–White Rock ....................................................................... Gordon Hogg Vancouver-Fairview ..................................................................George Heyman Vancouver–False Creek ...................................................................Sam Sullivan Vancouver-Fraserview ..............................................Hon.

Suzanne Anton, QC Vancouver-Hastings ....................................................................Shane Simpson Vancouver-Kensington .................................................................Mable Elmore Vancouver-Kingsway..........................................................................Adrian Dix Vancouver-Langara .................................................................Dr. Moira Stilwell Vancouver–Mount Pleasant .........................................................

Melanie Mark Vancouver–Point Grey .........................................................................David Eby Vancouver-Quilchena ................................................ Hon. Andrew Wilkinson Vancouver–West End ...............................................

Spencer Chandra Herbert Vernon-Monashee ...............................................................................Eric Foster Victoria–Beacon Hill .......................................................................Carole James Victoria–Swan Lake.........................................................................Rob Fleming West Vancouver–Capilano ............................................................. Ralph Sultan West Vancouver–Sea to Sky ..........................................................Jordan Sturdy Westside-Kelowna ................................................................

Hon. Christy Clark Party Standings: BC Liberal 47; New Democratic 35; Independent 3

CONTENTS Thursday, February 23, 2017 Afternoon Sitting Page Routine Business Introductions by Members ................................................................................................................................................... 13795 Introduction and First Reading of Bills .............................................................................................................................. 13795 Bill M221 — School Amendment Act, 2017 Bill M222 — University Amendment Act, 2017 A.

Weaver Introductions by Members ................................................................................................................................................... 13795 Orders of the Day Budget Debate (continued) ................................................................................................................................................... 13796 Hon. J. Rustad C. Trevena Moira Stilwell B. Ralston Hon. T. Wat S. Fraser L. Throness L. Popham S. Sullivan G. Holman

THURSDAY , FEBRUARY 23, 2017 The House met at 1:32 p.m. [Madame Speaker in the chair.] Routine Business Introductions by Members A. Weaver: It gives me great pleasure to introduce Dr. Michael Markwick, a professor at Capilano University, School of Communication. He was recently named a life-changing professor by the students of Capilano. He is accompanied by Ms. Nora Gambioli, a councillor from the district of West Vancouver, and 20 of his students in a communications class there. Would the House please make them feel very welcome. Introduction and First Reading of Bills BILL M221 — SCHOOL AMENDMENT ACT, 2017 A.

Weaver presented a bill intituled School Amendment Act, 2017. A. Weaver: It gives me pleasure to move that a bill intituled School Amendment Act, 2017, of which no - tice has been given, be introduced and read a first time now. Motion approved. A. Weaver: This bill amends the School Act to require that a by-election be held within one year of school board trustees being removed and an official trustee being ap - pointed to a district board of education. This situation arises, for example, when a school board is fired. This bill recognizes the importance of the demo - cratic nature of school boards.

It’s essential that school boards are elected so that they can be accountable to the communities they serve and so that they reflect the distinct nature of the district they represent. To this end, this bill would ensure that an appointed trustee cannot be in place for more than one year before an election is held. I move that the bill be placed on the orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today. Bill M221, School Amendment Act, 2017, introduced, read a first time and ordered to be placed on orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today.

BILL M222 — UNIVERSITY AMENDMENT ACT, 2017 A. Weaver presented a bill intituled University Amend- ment Act, 2017. A. Weaver: I move that a bill intituled University Amendment Act, 2017, of which notice has been given, be introduced and read a first time now. Motion approved. A. Weaver: It gives me great pleasure to be intro - ducing a bill termed the University Amendment Act. Universities in the province of British Columbia serve a key role in an economy that is increasingly driven by knowledge, information and ideas.

Academic freedom is a fundamental tenet for a culture of learning to succeed, and a key part of academic freedom is found in the right to participate in the university governance. [1335] While the role of a board of governors is essential in a university, the governance of a university must also be independent. It is with this in mind that I bring this bill forward today.

This bill amends the University Act to en- sure that appointees from the Lieutenant-Governor-in- Council cannot unilaterally set the tone and direction of a university board through having a majority of votes and that university boards cannot unilaterally appoint a chancellor for the university. This act also amends the University Act to change the composition, not the powers, of the senate for special purpose teaching universities. The current composition of the senate in special purpose teaching universities can potentially give the administration of these univer - sities the majority vote.

This harms the ability of the sen- ate to keep the academic autonomy of the university at arm’s length from government. This bill will bring British Columbia to the same university governance standards employed by much of the rest of Canada. I move that the bill be placed on the orders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today. Bill M222, University Amendment Act, 2017, intro - duced, read a first time and ordered to be placed on or - ders of the day for second reading at the next sitting of the House after today. G. Heyman: I seek leave to make an introduction. Leave granted.

Introductions by Members G. Heyman: Joining us in the gallery today is a friend of mine, Aaron Ekman, secretary-treasurer of the B.C. 13795

British Columbia Debates13796 Thursday, February 23, 2017 Federation of Labour. Aaron is originally from Terrace, where I knew his family well and spent many years liv - ing and working myself. Aaron is a passionate advocate for communities and workers in the interior of this prov- ince as well as in the metropolitan areas. Will the House please make him very, very welcome. Orders of the Day Hon. T. Lake: Continued debate on the budget. Budget Debate (continued) Hon. J. Rustad: It’s an honour today to stand up and speak in favour of a balanced budget that is so important for the members of my riding.

I want to start, of course, by saying thank you to the members of the riding for electing me and putting con - fidence in me to fight for the issues in Nechako Lakes. It’s a tremendous honour to be here to make sure that their voice is heard in this Legislature as part of our gov- ernment and part of the direction that we are trying to achieve here in British Columbia. [R. Lee in the chair.] I also want to take a moment to thank my constitu - ent assistants, Nadine Frenkel and Lori Derkson. They do great work on behalf of the people of Nechako Lakes.

On behalf of me and the riding, I’m very thankful to have good constituent assistants that provide that service. Lastly, I want to start, as well, by thanking my wife, Kim Royle, as well as my family. As we all know in this Legislature, we spend a lot of time away from home doing the work that we are elected to do, fighting for our ridings and representing our ridings both here as well as around the province. That takes away from family, and I’m thank- ful for them and their support in the work that we do. Budget 2017 is a balanced budget in many ways.

It bal- ances the needs of the people of the province in how we provide services, and it balances the needs of the people in terms of reducing their costs and putting more money in their pockets. It’s an approach that I think is difficult to do, and it’s one that I think we need to be proud of. When you look across Canada, we are now the only jurisdic - tion, the only province in Canada, with a triple-A rating. That just doesn’t happen. It means that you have to work hard and that you have to balance the needs of both the people as well as the fiscal responsibility and the respect to taxpayers in this province.

It also means that you need to work and focus very much on growing our economy, sup- porting jobs and supporting families. As we go through my response to the budget, we’ll touch on a few of those things in terms how they affect my riding, the Nechako Lakes. They’ll touch on how it also works within my min- istry and how we work towards supporting and respect- ing and recognizing our First Peoples in British Columbia. I need to start by talking a little bit about agriculture. Agriculture is important for my riding.

The cattle indus- try is probably, I think, about the second- or the third- largest employer in importance in terms of supporting communities and families. Everybody knows that, in agriculture, in order for fields to do well, they need to be fertilized, but some of the responses we’ve been hearing from the members opposite around our budget could only be described as overfertilization. [1340] I just want to point out a couple of interesting points — one from the member for Alberni–Pacific Rim. He started off his speech with some false information.

He incorrectly said that the Legislature here sits on unceded territory. That’s not correct. We signed an agreement with the Songhees and Esquimalt, in respect of those nations, more than a decade ago around this Legislature — an agreement which was historic in recognizing their trad - itional rights and recognizing them as people, and in rec- ognizing this chamber and the needs of this for all the people of British Columbia. They stepped up to the plate to sign that agreement because they recognized the im - portance of this for all of British Columbia.

I don’t know why he would start off with a statement that is inaccurate, but I find it interesting that he would do such a thing. Again, when you look at some of the other things…. Many of the members opposite have claimed that, for ex- ample, there is no mention of the word “seniors” in the budget. I mean — absolutely false. Read the budget. It’s clear they obviously haven’t, if they think that is the case. The budget mentions the word “senior” 22 times — 22 times in the budget.

As a matter of fact, it talks about how we’re cutting MSP and the savings that’ll be up for seniors, as well as the additional investment in housing and other support for seniors. The budget is very clear on that. Y et the opposition spread fertilizer around, I guess, like it’s going out of style. It’s quite interesting. The member just before me had an opportunity to get up and speak, and it was the member for Stikine. I find it interesting.

He made a reference to a quote that was used by our Finance Minister, saying: “Go west, young man; go west, young woman. ” He was referring to that from a perspective of people across Canada wanting to come to this province because we are the strongest economy. We’re leading the country in all categories. We’re grow- ing our economy. We’re working in partnership with First Nations. We’re working to create and support family jobs. And people are moving here because of that. The refer - ence was in contrast to the 1990s, when the NDP were in power, because people were leaving and going east.

That was the difference that we were talking about. Interjections.

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13797 Hon. J. Rustad: I see I managed to perk some chirp - ing from the members opposite on this. The numbers speak clearly for themselves — 56,000, I think it was, that moved to British Columbia just in the last little while. More importantly, the member for Stikine made an ac- cusation that we are being disrespectful to First Nations.

I wonder how he can stand to do that when just a year ago he was up on a traditional territory, the Tsimshian nation, signing a proclamation to ban a project from going for - ward in traditional territory, without asking permission, without going to the hereditary chiefs, without going to the elected chiefs and simply going up and trying to im- pose his will on a project up in the northwest. The hereditary chiefs came out with a letter clearly stat- ing their position on this, and many of the elected chiefs of the Tsimshian nations came out in condemnation of their actions, of what they’ d done.

How is that being re- spectful to the elders, to the families and to First Nations? For him to stand up and say that I think can only be de - fined as hypocrisy. Another false statement made by the member opposite during his speech…. I don’t want to dwell on this, but it’s important to set the record straight. The member talked about children in care. Well, we’re proud of the fact that there are more than 3,000 less chil- dren in care in this province than there were in 2001, when they were last in government — 3,000 less chil - dren in care. We have been expanding services.

We have done a tremendous amount in terms of supporting that. The member opposite talks about child poverty. Child poverty rates went up by 43 percent in the 1990s, and it had the largest single drop in B.C. ’s history under the B.C. Liberals, to levels that have not been seen since the early 1980s. We’re proud of the work that we are doing. We’re proud of the fact that we are able to be balanced in our approach, that we’re able to make sure that we’re respect- ful of taxpayers and that we provide the kinds of services that we need. [1345] For example, our approach on MSP .

I have heard from my riding, whether I was in Houston or Fort St. James, Vanderhoof, Burns Lake, Fraser Lake, even the good folks up in Granisle. They’ve all said to me — and when I’ve been talking with seniors — that MSP is an issue. They’re finding it a challenge, and they want us to do something about it. We have listened to the people of this province, and we’ve come out and taken those steps.

Not what the op- position wants to do, which is to swap one tax for an - other, but to commit to eliminating MSP over time, when we can afford it, and taking a significant first step by re - ducing MSP by 50 percent for those under $120,000. That will make a huge difference for the people that I represent in my riding, Nechako Lakes. It’ll make a huge difference in terms of their quality of life and being able to make sure that they can get out and participate and do the things that they like to do in my riding.

On top of that, while we’re doing that — close to a bil- lion dollars in relief for taxpayers in this province — we’re also focused on how to grow the economy. The members opposite seem to think that reducing taxes for small busi- ness — this is something they’re going to have to fight. Reducing the burdens under MSP is something they are going to fight and oppose. Interjection. Hon. J. Rustad: If they don’t believe me…. The mem - ber opposite seems to wonder if that was a question mark. Let me quote, if I can find the quote here. I believe it was from the member for Victoria–Swan Lake.

Just after the budget, he says that they are going to have to fight these tax reductions, these impact reductions. I mean, I don’t know what your members are doing going out and saying that when you’re standing up and trying to say that you don’t…. Anyway, the point is, the reductions that we’re doing for small business mean hiring more people. It means companies being able to invest back into their employ - ees and into the growth of their business. What we’re doing on…. Interjections. Deputy Speaker: Members, members. Order in the House, please. Hon. J. Rustad: What we’re doing with B.C.

Hydro in the reduction of the rates, the elimination of charging PST on hydro for business, will be huge for my riding — for the mines, for the mills, for the operations in the agriculture industry. It will be huge in terms of savings for the people in my riding so that we can continue to see good, strong, family-supporting jobs for Nechako Lakes and, really, across the province. The member opposite, in particular the member for Stikine, talked a little bit about mining in his speech.

I was shocked when I heard it, considering — I think it was the last election or the election before — he stood up in his riding and said that the northwest transmission line would be a waste of time and that money would be bet - ter spent on planting trees. He has never once — and I’ve debated with him many times in this Legislature — stood up and took the chal - lenge of supporting a single mine that wasn’t already permitted. He refuses. Even though his riding is one of the most prosperous, one of the greatest opportunities for mining in British Columbia, he doesn’t support the industry at all.

However, he also made some accurate statements about First Nations. Let me tell you about mining in

British Columbia Debates13798 Thursday, February 23, 2017 First Nations. The Red Chris mine is supported by the Tahltan. The Tahltan have signed on in supporting Red Chris. They’ve worked with it. They’ve made sure that they have confidence in the way it’s being done. The folks from the TseK’hene, which is up in Kemess North, have been working very closely with the company. They’ve sent a letter in to us in support of this project go- ing forward, because they have confidence in the way that we do mining in the province British Columbia.

The First Nations around the Blackwater project, which is another mine in the southern portion of my riding — once again, they’ve sent letters to us. They’ve come and met with us wanting us to move forward with the permitting process because they support and have confidence in the way that we do mining here in British Columbia. Under the NDP , we were down to 6 percent invest - ment, of the investment dollars in Canada, in explora - tion. We all know you need exploration if you’re going to actually have mining. Today we’re well over 20 percent. It’s phenomenal how industry now has the confidence in our province.

A big piece of that is because we’ve been able to work closely with First Nations in signing agreements, in bringing First Nations to the table, and how we do busi- ness and finding ways to make sure that we’re respectful of their rights and title. [1350] To that end, I actually take great pride in our govern - ment, in what we’ve been able to do with nations. In the last four years, we have signed about 400 agreements with First Nations, covering everything from forestry to mining to natural gas to pipelines to social issues — right across the spectrum.

Those agreements include work on the advancement of treaties; work on the advancement of long-term rec - onciliation; incremental treaty agreements; clean ener - gy and clean energy types of projects that that side of the House has opposed every single time they’ve come up; work with the economic community; groundbreak - ing agreements with the Ahousaht in terms of how we work together to explore development; groundbreaking new agreements with the Carrier-Sekani; even up in the member for Stikine’s riding, working with the Gitxsan on agreements around watershed and an approach to doing business in supporting forestry; groundbreaking agreements on LNG sites and on natural gas pipelines; agreements on extraction and how we work together to make sure that we address the cumulative impacts; en - vironmental stewardship initiatives; training initiatives.

We could go on and on. I think that’s probably one of the reasons why it’s been probably close to two years since the members opposite have even bothered to ask me a question in question period about First Nations. Interjections. Hon. J. Rustad: I see that got a little bit of interest from the members opposite. Maybe that means I’ll get a ques- tion in the next sitting of the House, in question period. We’re proud, also, that in the riding I represent…. Of course, it’s a very rural riding — small communities. Trying to figure out how to get to yes on a project is what they want to see. It needs to be done right.

We need to make sure we respect First Nations’ interests. We need to make sure we respect the environment. But for every project that comes forward, it’s always a struggle to get it over the line and make it happen. On our side of the House, we start with: how do we figure out how to get to yes? On their side of the House, they just say no. The members in the northwest, my colleagues across the way, I can say, clearly have not represented their people well. They have not been out representing the working family.

They have not supported anything that would create jobs, that would allow people to be able to say to their children: “Y ou have a future in our riding. ” The former chief of the Haisla First Nation, Ellis Ross, said to me just recently: “Y ou know, I’m ashamed that my daughters had to move away, that we weren’t able to develop and bring forward the types of jobs throughout the northwest that they would want to stay and work in. ” And right across that riding, whether it’s Skeena or Stikine, people out there want to see their families stay, and they want to see their communities prosper.

But it doesn’t happen by saying no. Y ou cannot say no to every- thing and see that kind of thing happen. That’s why trying to figure out how you get to yes in a way that’s respectful is the important thing to do. It’s the responsible thing to do. And it’s why we’ve been so focused on it. Those jobs supporting our families, sup - porting our communities, are a critical component of how we, as government, go to our taxpayers and say: “We’re taking a balanced approach. That’s why we need to do the budget we’re doing, and that’s why we’re taking the steps we’re doing. ” Balanced budgets do not come easy.

It is the easiest thing in the world to do what the opposition say, which is: “Just spend more. ” Spend more on whatever their pet issue is of the day. But I can tell you that you can’t do that. Y ou have seen an example — for example, in Alberta — where they’re taking a decision to do that, to just spend more. And what has it done? It has exacerbated an al - ready challenging issue for the people in that province. In the 1990s, we saw this province go from one of the leading economies to a have-not province because of ir- responsible spending on behalf of the members opposite.

And I know they don’t like to hear that. Interjections. Deputy Speaker: Members. Members. Members, if you have any questions, please address the Chair.

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13799 Hon. J. Rustad: Mr. Speaker, I do apologize for the members opposite getting engaged. They’ll have their time to talk here in the Legislature shortly. I will give them that opportunity and yield the floor here in a short bit. But it’s important to make sure that we keep the facts. As I started talking at the beginning…. I started talking about supporting agriculture and the dangers of what happens when you spread too much, because the people in this province can smell it when they know that too much has been applied.

And the members opposite are clearly trying to do that for the people of this province. [1355] I want to talk about how we’re supporting the rural economy. Like I said, getting to yes is a big part of what we need to do to support the jobs, to support my mem - bers and the people I represent in Nechako Lakes. On top of that, in supporting our rural economy, we’re also investing $40 million to extend broadband service, because we have a growing technology sector. Technology is a key in terms of industry, in terms of development, es- pecially in rural B.C.

We are making those investments to expand broadband access throughout rural B.C. We are also putting $6 million towards the Buy Local program of B.C. agriculture projects. As I said from the beginning, agriculture is an important component in my riding, with forestry and mining and small business. So $10 million is going towards the Island Economic Trust, which is great for helping with the work that is happen - ing on that. So $6 million for three new international trade offices in Southeast Asia. When you think about my riding, I’ve got folks that are trying hard to grow our exports to Asia.

They’re doing it now with hay. They want to expand op- portunities with cattle. We’re doing it with lumber. Of course, we’re doing it with the minerals we’re extracting. Trade with Asia and trade around the world is important. I also find that interesting, because in order to grow the economy and support things like Rural B.C., you need to have that trade. Y et I find it interesting that the members opposite actually opposed NAFTA. Way back, they were on record opposing NAFTA. They’re on record opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, TPP .

I find it interesting that they’re actually out supporting protectionism brought forward by Trump. I don’t know how they quite get there, but whatever it may be, the re- ality is that we need to be able to grow our exports. We need to be able to do trade if we want to do that, and those offices in Asia are all about making that connectiv- ity and finding those opportunities.

So $15 million for new community grants through a capital program; $12 million to maintain our highways and improve the appropriate standards around those highways; $50 million, which goes for local infrastruc - ture through Build Canada and a clean water initiative; another $25 million that’s going into the rural dividend. All of these are around supporting rural economies.

A big announcement that I know these guys are about to vote against when it comes up in second reading of the budget: $150 million on reforestation, not only to help our forest industry but also to help us in terms of making sure our forests are healthy, absorbing carbon and part of what we need to be doing to support our en- vironment. That’s a $150 million investment right across rural B.C. that they will be proud, I’m sure, to stand up and vote against.

It does go to say that when you stand up, and you say that you try to support rural B.C. and you try to support our economy, you can’t do that by saying no to everything like the members opposite do. I also find it interesting, and it may be one of the rea - sons why they don’t have a problem with standing up and saying no, that when it came to electoral boundary dis - tribution, when we wanted to set up the committee and define a special region of the province, being the north, as well as the Kootenays and the Cariboo — three areas that are very rural and share in characteristics — they voted against doing it.

As a matter of fact, the member for Stikine was on record saying he didn’t mind seeing rural ridings leave. I don’t know how they go out and say that and say that they actually represent their riding. Interjection. Hon. J. Rustad: The member opposite, the member from Sunshine Coast, just says: “What does this have to do with the budget?” I’ll tell you what it has to do with the budget. What it has to do with the budget is mov - ing forward in a responsible way that supports jobs that they vote against. And they vote against even their own ridings in their representation. It’s a point that’s worth making.

I find it interesting, as my time approaches an end here in this, to hear the members opposite in the way they speak. How they can stand up with their approach and go to the taxpayers of this province at our shareholder meeting that we have coming up with nothing but nega- tivity, nothing but fertilizer being spread out, no vision, no opportunity, figuring out how they can continue to be the forces of no. On this side of the House, we are confident in build - ing the future. We are going to fight for the people of this province.

We are going to fight to make sure that soft - wood lumber is resolved to support our industry. We are going to fight to make sure that we continue to support communities and investments. We are going to fight to make sure that we have the best health care outcomes that we can have in this province, the best educational outcomes that we can have in this province. Just to that point — one last little stat that I thought might be interesting when we talk about education. The members opposite probably don’t want to remember this, but under them, the graduation rate for indigenous stu -

British Columbia Debates13800 Thursday, February 23, 2017 dents in this province was less than 37 percent. That was their record. [1400] We have made strategic investments. We have ad - vanced our work with First Nations, and the graduation rates now are 70 percent for indigenous populations and even higher in some areas of the province. It’s something to be proud of in how we work with First Nations and how we work respectfully in this province. As we vote on the fifth balanced budget…. Interjection. Hon. J. Rustad: On second reading, we will have a vote.

The member for North Island obviously has been here long enough that she should realize she does vote on this budget. She will have an opportunity to stand in this House — unless she decides not to, of course — and vote in favour, or not, of this budget. Having a balanced budget is a key to being able to be successful. If you don’t have a balanced budget, you don’t have the opportunities to be able to make investments. Interjection. Hon. J. Rustad: Y ou don’t have the opportunity to look after children. Y ou don’t have the opportunity to look after seniors.

Y ou don’t have the opportunity to invest in jobs, invest in companies, to make sure you can drive the economy to have the dollars that are needed. It starts by being balanced. It starts by making sure that you can bal- ance the needs, that you have respect for taxpayers, that you fight for the families and you fight to make sure that they get what they need. It’s easy to be proud of this budget, because it is bal - anced. It’s easy to be proud of this budget, because it is the envy of most of the world. They would love to see our situation.

They recognize that they have to struggle and make very hard choices ahead to be able to avoid fiscal oblivion but, more importantly, to be able to make sure that as they go forward…. Being able to support their province, being able to support the services, becomes a choice, as opposed to having to manage a decline. Those choices to be balanced are tough. It takes courage. It takes dedication. I want to congratulate and want to thank our Premier for her vision and leadership. She has stepped up to the plate and set the tone for us as a province.

The Finance Minister has come in with a strong balanced budget, the fifth in a row, even despite the fact that the members op- posite refuse to believe it was even possible. I get it, be - cause with their management of money, it would never be possible to see a balanced budget. On this side of the House, what you will see going for- ward is continual good management, so that the taxpay- ers of this province, the voters of this province, will have a clear choice in the upcoming election between fiscal re- sponsibility, investing in priorities and returning money to the taxpayers, versus the other side.

Quite frankly, we’re not sure what they’re going to offer, other than a little bit of fertilizer — that we’re hearing — and, clearly, fiscal irresponsibility. I’m proud to take my place in this budget debate. I’m proud of the work that we’re doing with the First Nations in being respectful, building toward reconcilia - tion. I’m proud of what we’ve been able to do, and I look forward to hearing the rest of the debate that will come on the budget. C. Trevena: I stand with, unfortunately, a smile on my face to respond to this budget, which is quite a desperate budget. The minister who spoke before….

I would like to have gotten into a debate with him, but since he was hardly talking about the budget and was talking about some very strange areas, I don’t really want to do all the rebuttals. He said that whether or not we’ d be voting for this budget…. I’m very proud. This is my third term, and I’ve got to say I’m very proud that I’ve stood and opposed every single budget of this government — and it is the same government. It has come under different guises, but it’s still a B.C. Liberal government. For 12 years, I have stood here on behalf of my constituents, the citizens of B.C.

It’s not as the Finance Minister says. They are not shareholders in this province; they are residents of this province. They are citizens of this province, they are cit- izens of this country, and they should be respected as such. They shouldn’t be treated as shareholders. [1405] The budget that we are faced with — that is, the pre- election handbook for this government — is really quite extraordinary. It is trying to make people forget the last 16 years.

It is trying to make people forget the fact that we do have the worst child poverty, that we have had our seniors starved of care, that we have lost 30,000 jobs in the forest sector, that we have seen a growth in debt. We heard the minister talking about balance and fis - cal responsibility. I don’t know how the government con- tinues to think people are going to buy this, when by 2019, just two years’ time, the provincial debt will be $77.7 bil- lion. That is an extraordinary amount of money — $77.7 billion. The amount has gone up. When the NDP left of- fice in 2001, it was about $30 billion.

It has gone, from there, on an ever-increasing rate. Under this Premier alone, it’s gone up about $30 billion. It is terrifying. Unlike the minister, I am actually going address the budget. I’m going to try and analyze the budget, how it effects my constituents and how I perceive it’s going to affect the province. Because this is the blueprint for the government going towards the election. We didn’t have a vision in the throne speech. I spoke about the throne speech. To be honest, it almost makes you miss the pre -

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13801 vious Premier, Gordon Campbell, who at least had some- thing he wanted to achieve and not just hold on to power. This budget will be the blueprint for the coming election. So I’m going to address how it affects my constituents in the north Island, as well as, as I say, I perceive that it af - fects the province. There were lots of rumours before the budget that there was something big that was going to happen. Something dramatic was going to happen. Was it going to be a point off the PST? What was it going to be? What were they going to do?

I mean, before the last election, we had the budget which talked about Debt-free B.C. “Debt free, $77.7 billion — we can get around that, I’m sure. I’ll put a bus out there. ” We had it about the prosperity fund. There were lots of things there, before the last budget, which never came to fruition. This time there was going be something big. What it was, was — I believe this is their big piece — the cut to MSP . Cut to MSP , 50 percent. When you’ve doubled MSP and then you cut it by 50 percent, you’re just, surely, ad- mitting a big mistake — that it shouldn’t have gone up that much.

We could have told the government this, and we have told the government this. We have been advocat- ing, for a number of years, to actually get rid of the MSP . It is a regressive tax. It is a flat tax. It means that somebody who earns $50,000 or $500,000 a year pays the same. By cutting it in half, it’s still going to be a regressive, flat tax. We already know that the government is starting to get a bit worried about how they are going to implement this cut, because it is cut in half for people who earn less than $125,000 a year. We know that. But it is the fact that it is a bad tax.

We are the only province in this country that charges extra for medical service premiums. It is not — the government has clearly shown this, because the Ministry of Health’s budget has gone up — directly linked to the Health Ministry. It is, effectively, a tax grab. The cynicism, I have to say, of saying: “Oh, we are go- ing to halve the MSP . Y eah, it did just go up last month. But don’t worry, if you elect us. In January, if you earn this amount of money, we’re going to halve it.

And then sometime, somewhere, if you keep on electing us” — which one can only hope the people of B.C. do not do, for everybody’s interest, whether it’s the interests of the communities, people, education, our environment; they don’t keep on re-electing them — “somewhere we will get rid of the MSP . ” I mean, it is a cynical manipulation. It is trying to make people forget that they have doubled the MSP over the last 12 years by coming and saying: “Oh, it’s okay. We’re going to halve it. ” Luckily, from people I’ve been talking to…. I mean, it’s now Thursday. The budget was introduced on Tuesday.

I’ve obviously been talking to a lot of people since then — calling people in my con - stituency and having conversations with people. They’re not buying it. [1410] Likewise, they aren’t buying the minister’s, I’ve got to say, damascene epiphany about public education. Suddenly, we have the Minister of Finance…. And I have to read this. I usually like keeping my own words in the record, but I have to read the Finance Minister’s statement here, during the budget speech.

He says: “I’ve occasion- ally been asked what I think is the single most important service government operates or funds. ” Then I pick up a sentence later: “If I had to pick one, it would be education, because education is about empowering the individual. ” After 16 years of cuts and cuts and cuts to the pub - lic education system, started by the Premier when she was the Education Minister, it was taken to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court forced them to reinvest in education.

The reason that they have this Damascene epiphany is because the Supreme Court has said: “Y ou’ve got to put the money back in the system. ” I mean, it is incredible, absolutely incredible that the government…. Interjection. C. Trevena: The Minister of Education says I don’t understand. I have to say: how can…? Interjection. C. Trevena: I’m not going to get into a debate with him, but the very fact that we put a dollar figure on our students is wrong.

The fact that we start saying: “Oh, this student is worth X number of dollars. ” We should be funding public education because it’s for the good of our kids and it is for the good of our province. If we do not fund public education, we do not have a civil society. I feel so sorry for those children, those stu - dents who have gone through the whole of their educa - tion career, from kindergarten to grade 12, and now into higher education… Interjections. Deputy Speaker: Minister. C.

Trevena: …if they’ve been lucky enough to get a place, or into a training system, into an apprenticeship, if they’ve been lucky enough to get one under this govern- ment where the cuts have starved the system. If this system was so well funded up until now, why would the Supreme Court have ruled as it did? Why would we have PACs — parent advisory committees that are supposed to be helping the school system, the boards of education — come up with ideas? Why would they be fundraising for playgrounds — for paper, for goodness sake? Why would teachers be buying supplies for the school system?

Why would kids be lucky to be sharing a textbook if this was the best-funded education system?

British Columbia Debates13802 Thursday, February 23, 2017 If we do not fund public education, we are cheating not just those children, but we are cheating our whole province. It undermines what we can do. It undermines our civil society, and by undermining our civil society, it undermines our democracy. It is a dangerous thing to do — absolutely dangerous. Interjection. C. Trevena: The other area, which we had some back and forth on…. I’m happy to carry on talking about education and may come back to it. In my constituency, I have a num - ber of high schools because I have three different school districts.

If I went to any of those three school districts, all of them would come back to me and say: “We don’t have enough money. ” They’re not looking for the world. They’re just look - ing for enough to make sure that they can keep up. Not with just inflation, not just with making sure that they can educate the children the right way, but there has been an increase in MSP . There has been a massive in - crease in hydro bills. They have to meet carbon-neutral commitments.

There are so many demands and so much downloading on the system that there is no way that any of the three school districts have been able to keep up without affect- ing what goes on in the classroom. They do not want to do that. None of the school boards in my constituency or, I’ d say, around the province want to see any cuts to public education. Y et this government since 2001, when the Premier was Education Minister, has been absolute- ly attacking it. The minister before obviously did a word count. He went through the budget speech — if he’s got it up on Word. I think maybe he can do it on Adobe Acrobat.

Y ou know, you count how many words, and with Word find, he found the word “seniors” did appear a few times in the budget. But there was nothing actually which does any - thing for seniors in this budget. We have an aging demographic. We know this, yet there was nothing in this budget which is going to help seniors. I mean, again, is this going to be…? [1415] Interjections. C. Trevena: Well, the ministers don’t need to pay hy- dro bills. The minister represents a rural riding, as I do. I don’t know whether the minister has actually talked to any seniors in his rural riding.

Go to the seniors centre in Campbell River, sit down over lunch and talk to seniors who go to have lunch there because that’s the only hot meal they are going to get. They are making a choice be- tween their food, their hydro bills and their drug costs. Seniors cannot afford to live in B.C. — and that’s in Campbell River. We’re not talking about downtown Vancouver. We are talking about people who worked hard for their lives, and they are not able to make ends meet, thanks to this government. We are talking about…. They have this budget. They Twitter around, saying: “We’ve got this.

We’ve got that. ” They are expecting that people will look at this budget and say: “ All is forgiven. We’re okay. ” Nine out of ten of our publicly funded seniors homes do not meet the benchmark standard for care hours. Y ou can even talk to…. I mean, I’ve talked to them in my con- stituency, and they know they don’t meet those bench - mark standards. I’ve talked to the Ministry of Health about this. There is one case in the constituency where we have had a care worker talking about the poor conditions that seniors have found themselves in.

She has catalogued a very nasty list, which is very public, about what has hap- pened there. I’ve had other people who have family at that care home talk about dental hygiene. I’ve also talked to the care home. The care home, itself, says: “We don’t have the funding to give the standard - ized hours. ” They do 3.1 hours of care for a senior. The benchmark is a massive 3.6 hours. I mean, 3.6 hours, in itself, is low. When we are dealing with seniors, who have different levels of need, it is extraordinary. Y ou’re looking after health needs. Y ou’re looking after bathing needs.

Y ou’re looking after helping people get out of bed. Y ou’re look- ing after people dressing. Y ou’re looking after the socia- bility. Y ou’re looking after meals for some of them. It is extraordinary that we can expect that 3.6 hours is okay and 3.1 is…. We should be doing more for our seniors. Y esterday I asked the Minister of Health about bathing of seniors who are being cared for at home, where we’re trying to keep them because we want to make sure they can stay at home as long as possible. If they don’t get the baths that they need, if they don’t get the help that they need, that’s not going be possible.

I mean, this system is broken. It is grossly underfund- ed. The workers are doing their best. The health care workers, the workers in these seniors homes, are doing their very best. But it is not funded. Interjection. C. Trevena: While the Minister of Health is continuing his conversation…. He’s going to like this one, because in the budget, under the capital investment, Campbell River Hospital is mentioned. Campbell River Hospital — we are very lucky — has been mentioned again. I think this is four budgets that the government has announced Campbell River Hospital.

We’re all extraordinarily pleased that it’s happening. It opens this year. I’m very much looking forward to when

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13803 the NDP’s Health Minister goes to the official opening of this hospital. But I have to say that if the stories I’m hearing about the construction of that hospital are true, it will underline every fear that people have had about the 3P construc - tion process. By the time that hospital hands over to the health authority, and therefore the government, with the standards that I have been hearing from people who have been working… Interjection. Deputy Speaker: Minister. Continue. C. Trevena: …there are going be serious costs for repair.

There is also the other problem with the privatization of our health care system, which is coming, very subtly, for some cases. It’s the fact that…. [1420] We are going to have a new hospital. We are all look - ing forward to this new hospital. I’ve got to say it is some- thing that the community has needed for a long time. We are very pleased that the minister finally listened to my - self and to other advocates in the community and we got a hospital in Campbell River, not down in Dove Creek. But with the privatization of the system, we are los - ing the housekeeping staff. We’re losing the kitchen staff.

Interjections. Deputy Speaker: Members. Please proceed. C. Trevena: The people who have been working hard on behalf of everyone in the community in that hospital are going to lose their jobs or have to come back at a lower rate of pay. That is absolutely unconscionable. Interjection. C. Trevena: The Minister of Advanced Education says it’s fiction. He should come and talk to some of the people who I’ve talked to who work in the hospital who say: “I’m not going to have a job. ” People say to me, because I am their representative, that…. Interjections. C.

Trevena: The ministers over there who are twit - tering obviously don’t ever talk to their constituents. Otherwise, they, too, would say about people who are saying things to them…. If they talked to their constitu - ents, they, too, would have stories from their constituents to bring here, instead of the alternate facts we’ve heard for the last 16 years. I would like to talk about Monica from Sayward, who came into my office because she is on income assistance. Now, this government might have forgotten that the in- come assistance rates haven’t been raised for 11 years.

The people who are going to be going to vote and who look at this budget have not forgotten that. This government may try and forget it. She came into my office because there was a problem with her receiving assistance. There was a glitch in the CPP system. Now, CPP admitted it was a glitch. My staff went to help her at the social services office, and they wouldn’t accept there was a glitch. So Monica hadn’t been getting any money since November. Finally, it was sorted out. Finally, she was going to get her cheque. Finally, she was going to get her money.

The Minister of Social Development and Social Innovation would not accept that CPP had made a mistake. They wouldn’t accept that even CPP was saying: “We made a mistake. Please give this woman her money. ” They wouldn’t accept that. Finally, that was sorted. Monica lives in Sayward. It’s cheaper to live in Sayward. It’s 75 kilometres. She’s got a beater car. She needed to get home. She went to the ministry for a crisis grant — $20, get gas, get home. She was refused. She was told that she was not going to get food, and therefore, she could not get this crisis grant.

When we asked her what she did — she got back in touch with us later — Monica said: “I had to go outside to get that money. ” That woman — read into it what you will — had to go outside to get gas money to get home. This is what 16 years of this government has done. It is heartless, absolutely heartless. She eventually got her social assistance, which is a pit- tance. She eventually got it. She was told a few days later: “Oh, you can have a crisis grant, but you’ve got to come back into the office to pick it up. ” So another 150 kilo - metre round trip. She didn’t.

It is unconscionable, as I say, what this government has done. I mentioned Sayward, 75 kilometres from Campbell River. I mention in my response to the throne and men- tion every time that I stand up here how proud I am to represent the North Island. It is a wonderful constituency. I know we all talk about our own constituencies as the best place. North Island is stunning, and it’s a microcosm of the province. Campbell River is the biggest commun- ity. Lots of smaller communities. Quite a number of First Nations communities — about 21 First Nations in the constituency.

And lots of small communities. [1425] So very much rural. It’s sometimes described as re - mote. In fact, quite a lot of the communities are remote. Looking at this budget, when we’ve been talking about investment in rural areas, I’ve got to say there is a big hole. Last night one of the mayors…. We had a reception with mayors across the province. One of my mayors — in fact, he was the mayor of Sayward…. I said to him: “What do

British Columbia Debates13804 Thursday, February 23, 2017 you think of this budget? What do you think of the rural approach?” He just looked at me and said: “Give me the money, honey. It’s not there. ” It isn’t there. There is nothing. We have the rural divi- dend. That’s about it — the rural dividend, which you’ve got to apply for. It’s really rigorous and very hard to get. There’s that. We need to have a fair share system so that the wealth from our communities — whether it’s a Port McNeill, a Port Hardy, a Sayward — which produce the wealth of this province, goes back to those communities.

That would be a healthy way of approaching it, rather than each com - munity having to desperately apply for yet another grant for basic infrastructure or sewage or whatever it is. We need to make sure that that money that has come from — whether it’s the stumpage, whether it’s from minerals — whatever it is can get back into those communities. Instead, what we have is, effectively…. As I say, we’ve got the rural dividend, and I think there’s some reference to B.C. Lotteries. So we can also do B.C. Lotteries. That will really help the rural communities.

Also, we’ve had the Premier going up and down the Island talking about how this time she’s going to have a vision for Vancouver Island. She has been Premier for a number of years. She’s been in the government for a num- ber of years. Vancouver Island is where the…. I know she doesn’t like coming here. She has made it very clear. She doesn’t like coming here. But Vancouver Island is a large entity that she’s suddenly discovered. Again, maybe it’s another revelation. She’s discovered the Island as a place. She’s clearly not discovered that it’s largely rural and needs rural invest - ment.

Nor has she discovered that we have a marine high- way that links us to the mainland. Highway 1 is from Horseshoe Bay to Nanaimo. Highway 17 — Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay, a provincial highway. Highways across from Swartz Bay to Saltspring, from Saltspring to Crofton, from Campbell River to Quadra, from Buckley Bay to Denman. We have highways all over the place. The Premier and the Minister of Finance seem to have forgotten that. But it is their responsibility, quite clear - ly. Y ou look in the budget, and under the Minister of Transportation’s budget is coastal ferries. It is the min - ister’s responsibility.

He has a duty to respond to that — and not respond to it just as a tourism opportunity but as part of our highway system. I’m thinking that when we have the Premier talking about some vision for the Island, she actually, like her vision for B.C., is more about the spin to get re-elected than anything about what our Island needs. Because what our Island needs…. Our Island does not need the Coastal Ferry Act. It does not help our ferry system. In fact, it’s not just the people who live on the Island.

Our whole economy needs a substantial reduction in the fares so we can have a freer flow of people and of goods around our province. At the moment, with the increasing fares — 164 per - cent on some routes…. It’s stifling. It’s stifling develop - ment. It is forcing people from their homes. It is seriously affecting the tourism industry. It’s something that really needs to be dealt with, but it’s not in this budget. Ferries, as I say, are part of the Minister of Transpor - tation’s responsibility. It’s interesting to see that while that isn’t part of the pavement politics….

There is no money going into ensuring that ferry fares are affordable and that we can use our marine highway. We are already see- ing some of the pavement politics. I’ve got to say that I was rather amused that, for my constituency, there was a big government announcement for effectively patching part of the inland Island highway coming into Campbell River. I mean, it’s work that needs doing. But to have an announcement of all this money that’s going into this…. These are regular repairs that need doing. This is the infrastructure of our province, and we have to hold it together.

I acknowledge that we now have money going into part of the four-laning of the Trans-Canada Highway. We need to see a lot more. We need to see actual, specific timelines on that, which has not been happening. Instead, every election cycle we see billboards going up. [1430] Likewise, we see billboards going up around for the other major infrastructure project — $3½ billion so far for the replacement of the Massey Tunnel, a replacement when we still haven’t had a reasonable explanation of the cost, how that $3½ billion is reached. When we see one of the previous Ministers of Trans- portation….

I find myself in the invidious position of defending Kevin Falcon and quoting him. When he was Minister of Transportation, the tunnel was seismically upgraded and that was going to last another 50 years. If you put in bus lanes and you put in high-speed transit, you have to deal…. We all accept that there is major con- gestion at the Massey Tunnel. We have to do something about it. But we would like to see a very clear explanation of why, where this money is coming from, how you get to $3½ billion, and whether there are better alternatives.

I would posit that there are definitely better alterna - tives than a ten-lane mega-bridge, which is going to lead in back into four lanes, which is going to lead into more congestion. There is no way…. I mean, I’ve had it explained to me in several ways. It makes no sense to myself, and it makes no sense to nearly all the mayors in the Lower Mainland. All but one have a different vi - sion for how they want to move people around their re - gion, yet this government pigheadedly moves along with that bridge. [R. Chouhan in the chair.] We should learn from past experience.

Port Mann was the last, effectively, big boondoggle for this government

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13805 when it comes to bridges. It had an estimated cost of about $1.6 billion. It ended up being $3½ billion. It lost…. It’s continually losing money. This year it’s forecast to lose another $90 million. This is public money. This is a reck- less use of public money. The number of vehicles for 2016 was 112,274. That is still less than the previous bridge.

Y et this government is moving hell for leather with an- other $3½ billion investment — I say $3½ billion; who knows what it’s going to be at the end — without being transparent about how they got to that figure. Without realistically listening to the demand of the communities, which is, “Give us transit; don’t give us a mega-bridge, ” without listening to the demands of Richmond, which is saying, “We don’t want this, ” and without looking at ser- ious alternatives, which could include keeping the tunnel. I see that my time is almost at a close. I find, once again, that I had a lot more to say.

But I’ve got to say that this is a budget designed to make people try and forget the last 16 years. I think it’s going to fail on that. People are going to remember that the Premier puts herself and her rich friends first. They’re going to remem- ber that she’s taken a second salary. They’re going to re- member that there was a $1 billion tax cut for billionaires. They’re going to remember, and they see it already, the increase in using the public service for political advertis- ing. They’re going to remember the fact that it is all about politics and not about public policy.

Moira Stilwell: It’s a bittersweet honour and privilege to stand today to speak in support of the budget — bitter- sweet because this will be my last speech on the floor of this Legislature as the MLA for Vancouver-Langara. As members may know, I am not running for re-election in May, instead returning once again to my career in medicine. To say that the last eight years have flown by would be an understatement.

As a member of the Legislature class of 2009, I have had the opportunity to serve my constitu- ents of Vancouver-Langara alongside two Premiers who, while having their own distinct personalities, have both demonstrated a shared commitment to our province and to B.C. families. I have sat and listened to many budgets, and while each reflects the uniqueness of a particular moment in time and the circumstances we face at the time of writing, they have two underlying characteristics. First, they take a cer- tain pride in what this province has accomplished, which by any measure is more than impressive.

Second, perhaps even more important, they demonstrate an unambiguous pride in what this province can be in the future. [1435] As I think of all of the debates I have sat through in this House in eight years and all of the debates that came be- fore us in this chamber, it’s hard not to be reminded that this province’s story will never be finished. Instead, there will always be chapters yet to be written. As for me, I am pleased and honoured to have played some small

part in the pages that have made up the past eight years, years that have included the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games; the rebuilding of the economies at home and abroad after the 2008 economic meltdown; the opening of major infrastructure projects, such as the new Port Mann Bridge and Canada Line; the incredible diversification of our provincial economy; suc- cessive balanced budgets; and, year after year, record in- vestments in health, education and social services. But these are not the only milestones and memories for me. Y ou see, before being elected, I was like most British Columbians.

I was always too busy with my own career and family to pay much attention to politics, and like most people, I was often cynical about politics and those who venture into that arena. But like virtually everyone in this chamber, there came a time when the call to serve our province in a capacity beyond our everyday jobs arrived. For me, it started as the chair of the Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation. Not only did I meet a board that was full of people with a deep and long-term interest in pol - itics, but I also learned the value and importance of the art of advocacy.

Standing up and speaking out felt nat - ural, and to be heard was even better. And then I had the chance to make a difference, and I was hooked. I realized then and there that politics was a way of making a real difference, so I like to think I jumped in with both feet, and I hung up my stethoscope and started campaigning. And I loved it.

I loved every part of it — the door- knocking, the canvassing, the candidate debates, the never-ending stream of community events, the election night count, the constituents, the often raucous to-and- fro of life in this chamber and the camaraderie of meeting men and women on both sides of this House, who share a common purpose if not always the same political stripe. And that is their strong belief that public service is both worthwhile and a necessity for any democracy that wants to thrive and be relevant.

If you ever doubt the wisdom in that sentiment, just look to our neighbours to the south and the angst, concern and confusion that comes when ego trumps every virtue. With such a daily display of dis- array, who knows how it will play out for them and for us? After all, democracy is a fragile commodity. It counts on a certain civility and a sense of common purpose. It counts on a free and unfettered press, even when we don’t always like what we read or hear.

And it counts on people like those of you in this Legislature, men and women who are prepared to stand up and say that you’ll put aside your day jobs and, on many days, ignore your families just so you can help steer this incredible province of ours in the right direction. It’s a belief that we all do well when we all do well and that no one, particularly the most vulnerable among us, should be left behind. These days, having the right people sitting in the Legislature is more important than ever. If I have learn - ed anything over my eight years in politics, it’s that most

British Columbia Debates13806 Thursday, February 23, 2017 people don’t think about politics or budgets 24-7. That probably sounds awful to those of us who spend every waking moment on politics, but the truth is that most people want government to be invisible — not intrusive, but there when it’s needed. As a physician, you make life-and-death decisions al - most every day, and because we are human, we some - times make mistakes. Government and politicians are no different, sometimes no matter how well-intentioned we might be.

When we do make a mistake, the best thing we can do is acknowledge our shortcomings, our mistakes, and count on British Columbians to understand, forgive and give us another chance to make it right. Showing our humanity, in my opinion, is not a weak- ness. Instead, I like to think it’s a strength and an under- standing that British Columbians know we are not infallible. That belief in the decency of the average British Columbian reinforces something else I learned after win- ning in 2009. I campaigned as a B.C. Liberal and won as a B.C. Liberal… Interjections. Deputy Speaker: Members.

Moira Stilwell: …but understood that I was the MLA for all of my constituents, not just those who voted for me. Interjections. Deputy Speaker: Members, could you keep your voices low, please. Thank you. Moira Stilwell: Campaigning and governing are two different worlds, as everyone in this House knows. The other lesson I’ve learned along the way is that our province’s best leaders are the ones with the big ideas and the ability to bring the rest of us along. I’ve had the advantage of sitting with two Premiers, each with their own personality and different in many ways.

But each has brought a dedication to this province that is un - challenged, and both of them have had the capacity to see the big picture, a picture that is, on its best days, all about our future. [1440] In fact, when Premier Gordon Campbell asked me to consider running, I knew I would regret it if I said no. The truth is that after being in medicine for nearly 30 years, where I met all sorts of brilliant men and women, he was the first really great leader I had ever worked for. It was an eye-opener.

As I get ready to go back to medicine, I know that my time in politics gave me a chance to stand on the shoul - ders of giants and gave me a chance to see more of this province and understand more of this province than I could ever do in medicine alone. I’ve had the chance to visit every corner of this province — a place the size of Western Europe, a place with a rural and urban divide that remains a very real challenge for our government and governments in the future. I’ve also had the chance to be Minister of Advanced Education and, later, Social Development.

So I’ve seen our province’s genius up close, and I know what B.C. is capable of as we task ourselves with helping to solve prob- lems and help build a new future for British Columbia families. I’ve experienced this Legislature and cabinet in person, and I know the challenges of doing the much-needed day-to-day tasks that keep government functioning while trying to keep one eye on the big picture for the future. As politicians, we are often too diverted by the needs of the immediate, the here and now.

Like everyone in this House, I’ve heard the old polit - ical truth that our first job when we get elected is to stay elected. It’s a reality, of course, but the key is to get the important and much-needed things done, sometimes in spite of politics. All of us know that is no small feat. On the rare occasions when I doubted or questioned or felt inadequate to the tasks of my constituents, I was always bolstered by the simple fact that the human con - dition is to hope. I saw it in my constituents, even when I wasn’t able to give them the answer they were looking for or the result they hoped for.

For some reason, they always left me with a thank-you, even just for trying on their behalf. Y ou see, my constituents, like yours, are down-to-earth, pragmatic, realistic and willing to take responsibility for themselves and their families. They are, by almost any measure, community-minded and willing to reach out and make life easier for those in need and our province’s most vulnerable, whether they be our seniors, our chil - dren or those who have found themselves in need.

Most of them will never make a headline or win the Order of B.C., but they are, each and every one of them, everyday heroes in their own way. They raise families and pay their taxes. Some run busi- nesses. Some care for elderly parents or children with special needs. Frankly, they look to government for very little, but they count on government when there is a real need. Most of all, they look to us to ensure there is a level playing field and that everyone has opportunities and no one is left behind.

When I look at this session’s budget, I look for the things that will help make life easier and better for my constituents and yours. It’s why I’m proud of our gov - ernment’s record as number one in Canada in terms of economic growth; as the home of the lowest taxes for middle-class families; as a province with the best health outcomes in the country, including cancer survival rates; our investments in health, education and social services; having the longest life expectancy in North America and the lowest heart attack rates.

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13807 And $1,200 to families with new children so they can start saving for post-secondary education. Record in - vestments in adoptions so that more children have been placed in forever families. All these things and more help to make this province what it is today. As a province, we have worked hard to get our fis - cal house in order, something families have to do each and every day. But together we have put our province in a position to take steps to ease the financial burden on our citizens. Did I get to do everything I wanted in the past eight years? No.

And there’s always the worry about the things that you left on the table, the things that are still undone. As a story with many more chapters still to be written, I know that in this business, sometimes progress is meas - ured in inches and not miles. I know that on May 9, someone else will fill this seat. They will come to this chamber just as each of us ar - rived: full of hope and enthusiasm and a work ethic to get things done for their constituents and province.

Time and processes may ultimately dull their enthusiasm a lit- tle, but I have yet to meet a former MLA who did not ul- timately relish every day in office. While there are days that you definitely feel weary, there are great days when you know you have truly accomplished something for the people who sent you to this House to be their voice. With that, I want to leave you with one parting shot and a reminder that in politics, some days you’re the pigeon and other days you’re the statue. [1445] A B.C. Liberal MLA, an NDP MLA and a Green Party MLA are on a flight together from Victoria.

The Liberal says: “I’m going to throw a $100 bill out the window and make a British Columbian really happy. ” The NDPer doesn’t want to be outdone, so she says: “Well, I’m go- ing to throw two $50 bills out the window and make two British Columbians really happy. ” The Green Party MLA decides to go with the flow and says: “Well, then I’m go- ing to throw these 100 loonies out of the window of the plane and make 100 British Columbians really happy. ” At this point, the pilot hears all the commotion, comes through the door and says: “If you don’t shut up, I will throw all three of you out the window and make 4½ mil- lion British Columbians really happy. ” That’s just a gentle reminder to all of us that we should take our work seriously but not ourselves.

We are here at the pleasure of our fellow British Columbians. There’s much to do, and there always will be. Those of us who are leaving have done our best to leave a mark, not just to say we’ve been here but to give those who will come after us some direction that keeps B.C. moving for- ward. That is ultimately the B.C. story, each

chapter bet- ter than the last — the kind of page-turner that you can’t put down and that makes all of us want to keep reading. B. Ralston: It’s a pleasure to take my place in the debate. I want to begin just by acknowledging the voters and the citizens of Surrey-Whalley who elected me last time and who have always been warm, welcoming and open to everyone in British Columbia, despite what we some- times might hear about my community elsewhere. It’s a wonderful place to live, to raise a family, to have a busi - ness, to attend university or college, and just a great com- munity that is growing.

It’s thriving, it’s lively, and it’s a great place to live. I do want to talk about the budget, because pre- election budgets are a special form of the art of budget- making. It’s useful, I think, to think about what the government hopes to achieve in this budget and hopes to achieve with the throne speech accompanying it. There is a clinical medical term called amnesia, which is a cognitive disorder where the memory is disturbed or lost. It involves the loss of memories previously held.

What the government is attempting to do is to induce col- lective amnesia in the citizens of British Columbia, to for- get what they’ve done over the last number of years and to focus entirely on the promises that they’ve made this time as they approach the election. It’s only a few months away; May 9 is the date of the election. In pursuit of that effort to ward off amnesia, let me turn to the Speech from the Throne of February 2013. This is not something that I’m saying. This is the voice of the government from that chair over there, spoken by the Lieutenant-Governor in February 2013.

Of course, there was discussion of natural gas. Let me just read a few passages from the Speech from the Throne. “ An estimated 39,000 new full-time jobs, on average, will be created during the nine-year construction period. Once all facilities reach full production, there could be over 75,000 new annual full-time jobs. ” There’s discussion of a stream of revenue: “The second stream of revenue comes from new royalty revenues directly for the province, British Columbia’s share of re- source profits. This could exceed $100 billion over the next 30 years. ” This is not me saying that.

This is the gov- ernment; this is the B.C.

Liberals before the last election. “To protect this second stream of revenue for generations to come, your government is establishing the British Columbia prosperity fund. ” And the prosperity fund will have certain measures. [1450] A key focus of the B.C. prosperity fund will be to re - duce the provincial debt. “We have an obligation to make good on this debt, rather than ask our children to pay it for us. ” It goes on to offer some more assurances and blandishments, and it goes on to say: “Whether it is elim- inating the provincial sales tax or making long-term in - vestments in areas like education or vital infrastructure that strengthen communities, these are the kinds of op - portunities that the B.C. prosperity fund can provide. ” Now, this is the Speech from the Throne.

Those state- ments were manipulated and worked upon and, in a ser-

British Columbia Debates13808 Thursday, February 23, 2017 ies of government ads, came out in a much more direct way, but the figures are the same: $100 billion in revenue, eliminating the sales tax, 100,000 jobs. That was before the last election. Now, if the Premier is successful in inducing collect - ive amnesia, people will forget about that. They won’t remember that. They’ll focus on what the government is attempting to have people focus on: some of the state- ments that they’ve made in the last little while.

The effort of the government in this budget is to really make the citizens of B.C., as best they can…. Certainly, there’s an effort. There is a wish on behalf of the gov - ernment, and this will be reinforced. The Minister for Advanced Education, who is responsible for government advertising, says there will be another couple of million dollars spent on advertising the budget — a couple of million dollars spent on advertising the budget — to in - duce that amnesia. The Premier wants you to forget a number of things.

She wants you to forget about the $300,000 in salary that she took from her wealthy donors: $50,000 a year. I rep- resent people in Surrey-Whalley. The average income in Surrey-Whalley is $46,000 a year — a family income for an entire year. This is the Premier getting, from her wealthy donors, a top-up more than the average annual income of a family in my riding. What do you think they think about that? Do you think they’re going to forget that? They’re not. The Premier now, apparently, says she’s not taking it. She’s taken those cheques and put them in the desk draw- er.

The only reason she did that was because the New York Times wrote a story about it. The New York Times wrote a story about it, and those who do lending in the finan - cial markets read the New York Times. Those bond agen- cies, those analysts at bond agencies in New Y ork, read the New York Times. It was only when it came to a story in the New York Times that the Premier was prepared to take the cheques and put them in the desk drawer and wait to see what happens. She also, in previous budgets, gave a tax break to the top 2 percent of tax-filers. So not the bottom 98 percent; the top 2 percent.

So $250 million a year over a four-year cycle, rolled up, in the way that governments like to roll up their numbers in their three-year, four-year and five- year plans. A billion-dollar tax break — $1 billion less in tax revenue taken in — and there’s no public record of this tax break being asked for. One can only assume that that might be the subject of discussion in private discussions, perhaps at some of the private dinners, where participants were paying $25,000 or $50,000 to have dinner with the Premier.

The Premier wants you to forget that more than half of British Columbians are living paycheque to paycheque. Many people are buried by household debt and are bare- ly making ends meet with low pay and the worst wage growth in Canada. People in my riding are hard-working. They’re not lazy. They’re out there looking for jobs. I’ve had people come to my office asking me to help them. They’re desperate. They’re looking for work. [1455] Sometimes they don’t have the range of skills that are necessary.

Sometimes they can only find part-time work, and the growth in part-time jobs is much more rapid than the growth in full-time jobs. Sometimes people will piece together two part-time jobs in order to have some- thing approaching an income, if they can find two part- time jobs with compatible schedules and work in child care, work in transportation. Often the hours for some of these jobs are graveyard shifts — cleaning jobs, security jobs, fast-food jobs, those kinds of jobs.

They are work, and there is a nobility to doing a job and to doing that work, so I’m not casting any aspersions on the work or the people that do it, but it is tough. It is tough. If the Premier thinks that people are going to forget about that by some of the manoeuv - res that are contained in this budget, she is wrong. She is wrong, wrong, wrong. The Premier has suddenly had a conversion on med - ical services premiums. A year ago she said that it was important to have medical services premiums because it was important to remind people that health care costs money.

Apparently, the argument was that by paying MSP premiums, people therefore realized that health care costs money. I think that’s the argument. It’s not a very compelling one. The measure of how weak an argument it is, is that the Premier has completely abandoned that. She now says that she hates that tax. She always did, apparently, but she just wasn’t able to express it until right now. She wants you to forget about her previous answer. She wants you to forget about her previous position. Under the B.C. Liberals, medical services premiums have doubled.

Now, on the eve of an election, she wants you to forget that. In the budget, the Premier is going to lower MSP pre - miums by half. She wants working families in ridings like mine and throughout the province who pay hydro bills to forget the steady increases of hydro rates. In fact, before the last election, a promise was made, which she hopes you’ll forget, that hydro rates weren’t going to go up at all. Of course, since the election, since 2013, they’ve gone stead- ily upwards. She wants you to forget about the crisis and the diffi - culty for working women and men in finding affordable child care.

The recognition that child care is important is recognized by a whole host of people, agencies and com- panies across the province. I remember when the Finance Committee toured Prince George. The Prince George Chamber of Commerce, in the heartland of British Columbia — a credible chamber of commerce, of course — said that they supported a child care program because they were

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13809 having employers and small businesses in Prince George who were having trouble recruiting labour, people to work in their businesses — particularly women. For bet - ter or for worse, the burden of child care falls more to women than to men, generally, and women weren’t able to find affordable, safe, reliable child care and, therefore, couldn’t go out and work. The Prince George Chamber of Commerce recognized that. The Premier wants you to forget about that. She doesn’t want to discuss that.

There’s some mention in the budget of several thousand more child care spaces, but in a province as big as ours, with a labour force of 2.6 mil - lion people employed both full-time and part-time, that number of spaces, while it’s an advance, is a very, very small advance. It doesn’t go very far towards addressing the real need in the province. Progressive countries, whether they’re Nordic coun - tries or elsewhere, recognize the importance of the early years for children and the importance of child care for a whole host of reasons.

Y et this important social program is something that has not been the focus of the attention of the government — certainly not in the years that I’ve been here. The government wants you to forget about that. They want you to forget all about that. [1500] The Premier also, in putting forward the budget…. We heard from the Minister of Finance, talking about the importance of education. If he had to pick one benefit of government, he said it was education — kind of a mo - ment from the Abe Lincoln of Matsqui Prairie. What he said was that public education was an important oppor- tunity.

But that’s not something that has been reflected in the actions of this government. The Supreme Court of Canada had to intervene. The government spent years and millions of dollars in liti - gation, fighting the case all the way up to the Supreme Court of Canada, where they unceremoniously dumped the case out in about 25 minutes. Typically, in a case of that importance, one expects the court to wrestle with the problem, to take some time to write a decision. The evidence and the arguments were so compelling against the government that they threw the case out very, very quickly.

That’s a measure of something that the government also wants you to forget, the way in which, — notwith - standing the affirmation of the Finance Minister, they’ve treated public education — the teachers and the students in public education — over the entire lifetime of their government. The Premier also hopes people will forget that nine in ten seniors care homes are understaffed. They’re leav - ing our frail elderly, those who have worked hard and contributed to society, near the end of their lives….

She hopes that will be forgotten that the care standards set by the government itself are not being met in nine of ten care facilities. It’s clear that this government, this budget, doesn’t work for everyday people. It doesn’t work for working people here in the province. We’ve shifted in many parts of British Columbia — this is certainly the experience that I have in my city of Surrey — to an economy of low- wage jobs. Y es, there are some high-wage jobs, but in - creasingly, there are low-wage jobs, and many of those jobs are part-time.

Good-paying forestry jobs — 30,000 have disappeared over the lifetime of this government. The Premier wants you to forget about that. There are other things that the Premier wants you to forget about. I mentioned seniors care. In my riding, a recent story by CBC television, which ultimately became a national story, was about Lana Turner. The member for New Westminster has raised this issue in question per - iod. This is a woman who is a quadriplegic. She moved from Campbell River, on Vancouver Island, to be closer to her 22-year-old son.

He works in construction and is unable to help in the day with her care, according to the news report. She was left without a bath for a month. She said that her home support provider simply ignored her com - plaints and that the service left her feeling hungry, dis - gusting and depressed. She was told she could receive a caregiver visit at 6 p.m. and that would mean that they couldn’t come any later. That would mean that 6 p.m. was her bedtime because that’s when a support worker would change her into pyjamas and put her to bed. She’s unable to socialize, unable to go to evening events.

She became increasingly depressed. Now, given the publicity attached to this story, Fraser Health intervened, and there are some changes being made. But it’s, I think, symptomatic and disappointing — that would maybe be a mild word to use — that this kind of public intervention in the media was necessary for this person, Lana Turner, to get attention to her case. [1505] I think there are other MLAs here who have had the same experience with their constituents, where one goes to the media as an MLA. It’s usually a last resort.

Once one goes to the media, then sometimes there is interven- tion by the agency or ministry involved. That is a symp- tom more of a government that wants to manage public impressions of its work than provide the service to others. For every Lana Turner who speaks out, who has the as- sistance of others to speak out and get to the media, there are others who don’t and who continue to suffer, perhaps in silence, or simply are ignored even though they may raise the issue with the relevant agency or caregiver. This kind of treatment, this kind of a policy….

It seems to be — certainly in that region, in my region, in the Fraser Health region, and I’m sure that Fraser Health will cor - rect me if I’m wrong — something that the Premier and the government want people to forget before the election. The other area, in my city of Surrey, my riding of Surrey-Whalley…. Surrey-Whalley is not a rapid-growth

British Columbia Debates13810 Thursday, February 23, 2017 area, except in certain parts of the city centre, but unlike the very rapidly growing parts of the city, there is a defi- cit in school construction. We saw the Surrey school board…. It is not a particu - larly partisan board. If they are partisan, they’re certain- ly not a pro-NDP board. They’re, I think, a less partisan board. They felt so besieged by the circumstance in which Surrey schools found themselves that they called, by reso- lution, for a moratorium on residential construction in Surrey — a very drastic step.

It’s not one that I support, but it is a measure of the degree to which they felt capital spending in Surrey had fallen behind — so far that they didn’t see themselves be- ing able to support new residential construction in Surrey. That is a big step, because residential construction is an important constituent, an important part of the local economy in Surrey. If the Minister for Housing or the Minister of Finance is to be believed, one of the solutions to the housing crisis in the Lower Mainland is more supply.

So for them, knowing all of that, to take that position was a major step, a very drastic step, and it’s a measure of the degree to which they felt, and they continue to feel, that the capital needs of the Surrey school district aren’t being addressed. The government — again, wanting to make you forget about all of that — had an announcement recently, I think, presided over by the Minister of Education and made some announcements and partial re-announcements of the capital spending that projects out over the next four years.

But the rate of growth, the number of new children coming into the system, is such that that will not reduce the number of portables in Surrey by any appreciable amount. There are 7,500 students in portable classrooms in Surrey. It will make a little bit of a dent, but it will not reduce them given the projected growth. It’s welcomed. The projected growth is welcomed if we’re going to tackle the supply of housing in the region.

But part of being effective in tackling that supply and building those houses is to build the public schools for the children who are going to live in those houses when they’re constructed and occupied. The B.C. Liberals want you to forget about their failure to keep pace with resi - dential construction in providing public schools and public education. Surrey school district is the biggest public school dis - trict by pupils in the province — over 75,000 students. It’s run on one of the leanest administrative bases.

Less than 1 percent of their budget goes to pure administration. [1510] Obviously, there are certain economies of scale in hav- ing a district that large. It’s effectively and well run. I don’t think there’s any dispute by anyone about the efficacy of the school administration in that district. It’s not that money is being wasted.

In fact, Laurae McNally, who’s the former chair of the school board, a long-time trustee — I think well regarded by everyone involved — in reference to some suggestions by some people that there might be low-hanging fruit to pick in terms of cost savings, said: “Those trees were cut down. Those trees bearing the low-hanging fruit were cut down a long time ago. ” Surrey has run a very tightly organized, disciplined, well-managed school district, yet they have not had the support that’s necessary to keep pace with the pace of de- velopment in Surrey at all. That’s something that the B.C.

Liberals and the Premier want you to forget. Another commitment that was made by the govern - ment and directly affects post-secondary education in my riding is that in 2006, the then Minister of Advanced Education made a commitment that SFU Surrey would be funded for 5,000 full-time spaces. I followed up on that as the member for that particular area of Surrey. I repeatedly asked Advanced Education ministers…. I see a few former Advanced Education ministers here. Until a few years ago, they used to answer me by saying: “We’re working on it. It’s coming.

We’re working on it. ” More recently, the current Minister of Advanced Education has even refused to answer the question. I think it’s probably a tactic that’s made necessary by the fact that after ten years, there are only 2,800 full-time spaces in SFU Surrey, despite the commitment having been made ten years before. Surrey. The administration…. Whether it was President Michael Stevenson before him or now President Petter, both made a compelling case for building spaces in Surrey.

Generally, attendance at post-secondary educa - tion institutions is more effective, is higher, the closer the institution is to where people live. In terms of the conversion rate — that is, the number of students who go from secondary school to university — it’s one of the lowest in the South Fraser region, partly because of the absence of spaces immediately adjacent to where people live. So there’s a demonstrated need by both President Stevenson and President Petter and their respective boards for those spaces. Surrey is booming and growing. As I’ve said, you have the biggest public school district.

Eventually most of those students, and increasing numbers in these recent years, graduate and go on to post-secondary institutions. That promise has not been kept. That promise has been broken. It’s something that I’m sure the Premier would wish we forget about — that those parents and those stu - dents who have aspirations for higher education will find it increasingly difficult to enter Simon Fraser University. There are other universities. They similarly are jammed with students. Whether it’s Kwantlen Polytechnic University in the Newton area, with a campus in Langley and a campus in Richmond….

There is a huge demand. We’ve heard, as I’ve have said, the Minister of Finance speak very eloquently about the power of education, the transformative effects of education, the lift that it gives

British Columbia DebatesThursday, February 23, 2017 13811 to individual lives and the importance to our collective achievement here in British Columbia. Again, again, a failure. So it’s sad. It’s sad that the gov- ernment is engaging in this budget, the forget-about- it budget, trying to induce a collective amnesia in the population, but it’s not going to work. It is just not go - ing to work. [1515] People know, people remember, and people are fed up. Ordinary working people, people in my riding, people in Surrey are going to reject this government with full force come May 9, and that’s a good thing. Hon. T.

Wat: It is my privilege and my honour to rise today to speak in support of balanced budget 2017. This budget, our government’s fifth consecutive balanced budget, delivers the dividends of a strong and diversified economy and prudent fiscal management. Budget 2017 cuts costs on middle-class B.C. families, invests in prior- ity services and programs, and promotes a competitive, job-creating economy.

When I first came to British Columbia almost three decades ago with my husband and my daughter, what appealed to me then were the same things that appeal to me today: a stable economy, a diverse society and many opportunities to succeed. Today I’m so proud to be part of a government with a strong focus and a strong record on all those fronts. For the second year in a row, B.C. ’s economic growth is leading the country. Our economic outlook remains steady as a result of diversified industries, continued bal- anced budgets and prudent fiscal planning.

British Columbia is fortunate to have a number of competitive advantages — our abundant natural re - sources and our proximity to Asia, to name just two of the many. But it is our approach, government’s fiscal discipline, that is the backbone of B.C. ’s strong and thriv- ing economy. It is this backbone that allows the province to weather the storm of all the outside forces, forces such as changing commodity prices and global politics. As we see in this budget, our government’s fifth consecutive bal- anced budget, fiscal discipline and a strong economy are paying dividends.

I’m proud of the work my ministry has done to con - tribute to B.C. ’s strong and diverse economy. The Ministry of International Trade is full of smart and talented public servants who work hard every day to promote trade and attract investment to British Columbia. Their work has a real impact on the growth of good jobs that B.C. fam - ilies can depend on.

As part of my ministry’s mandate, we are committed to expanding and diversifying B.C. ’s markets by growing our trade and investment network, supporting provincial trade missions and working on new strategic partnership agreements and memorandums of understanding. Those MOUs have leveraged opportunities for B.C. companies in key sectors, including agrifoods, clean technology and natural resources. Budget 2017 clearly prioritizes B.C. ’s vibrant tech sec- tor, with an additional $87 million for B.C. ’s tech strategy.

This strategy is a key component of the B.C. jobs plan to support the sector’s growth and to strengthen B.C. ’s di- verse knowledge-based economy. The ten-year strategy includes a $100 million B.C. tech fund and initiatives to increase talent development and market assets for tech companies that will drive innovation and productivity throughout the province. As the Finance Minister looked at in his speech, there’s a tremendous amount of potential to attract investment around the globe.

Since the B.C. jobs plan was released in September 2011, we have more than doubled B.C. ’s inter- national network from fewer than 30 people to more than 60, who are based in priority markets across Asia, Europe and the United States. Around the world, we have 13 trade and investment offices, including two new offices in the Philippines and Indonesia, and we’ll be opening another one in Malaysia in 2017, bringing our total number of trade and invest - ment officers to 14 all over the world. Budget 2017 provides $1.7 million annually to sup - port the operation of these new offices and our Asia trade strategy.

This strategy builds on the B.C. jobs plan with a strategic approach of growing trade and invest - ment with Asia. This approach involves, first, increas - ing the number of B.C. companies that export to Asia; second, increasing investments that make B.C. ’s sectors more competitive; and third, reducing barriers that im - pede the flow of goods, services, investment and people between B.C. and Asia. [1520] Our international network helps promote B.C. as a stable and attractive place to invest, and it connects B.C. businesses with new markets and trade opportunities overseas.

In Budget 2017, the ministry also received an increase of $800,000 to support international trade and investment. We are working on the details and will release more information at the B.C. Tech Summit in March. Our trade and investment representatives are on the ground, supporting provincial trade missions as well as inbound and outbound business delegations. As I speak, we have a small group of B.C. aerospace companies in Malaysia and Vietnam. They are there to showcase our aerospace capabilities in this rapidly expanding market, where B.C. ’s skills are in high demand.

These companies are part of B.C. ’s growing aerospace sector, which generates about $2.5 billion in revenue per year and employs almost 9,000 British Columbians dir - ectly. By connecting these companies with investors in emerging markets, we aim to build a large aerospace in- dustry here at home and to create more jobs in the indus- try for British Columbians. The investment and business

British Columbia Debates13812 Thursday, February 23, 2017 agreements that come out of this kind of a connection allow B.C. companies to grow. This, in turn, allows them to create new jobs and supports vibrant communities throughout B.C. In 2015-16, our trade and investment representatives facilitated and supported over 480 inbound and out - bound trips involving B.C. companies and organizations. Since 2013, my ministry has also supported seven major Premier-led trade missions to Asia to deepen relations and to generate new business.

Trade missions support targeted sectors of the B.C. jobs plan as well as key prior- ity markets in Southeast Asia, China, South Korea, Japan, India, Europe and the United States. The total value of foreign direct investment influenced by ministry programs is over $1.4 billion, well exceeding our target. That is really incredible. And the total number of international business agreements facilitated by min - istry programs reached 250, more than double our target. These numbers reflect real people growing real business in commu

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