Manitoba Hansard — 29 May 2017 (Sitting 59, 41st Legislature, 2nd Session)

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Second Session – Forty-First Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Myrna Driedger Speaker Vol. LXX No. 59 - 1:30 p.m., Monday, May 29, 2017 ISSN 0542-5492

MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Forty-First Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ALLUM, James Fort Garry-Riverview NDP ALTEMEYER, Rob Wolseley NDP BINDLE, Kelly Thompson PC CLARKE, Eileen, Hon. Agassiz PC COX, Cathy, Hon. River East PC CULLEN, Cliff, Hon. Spruce Woods PC CURRY, Nic Kildonan PC DRIEDGER, Myrna, Hon. Charleswood PC EICHLER, Ralph, Hon. Lakeside PC EWASKO, Wayne Lac du Bonnet PC FIELDING, Scott, Hon. Kirkfield Park PC FLETCHER, Steven, Hon. Assiniboia PC FONTAINE, Nahanni St. Johns NDP FRIESEN, Cameron, Hon. Morden-Winkler PC GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib.

GOERTZEN, Kelvin, Hon. Steinbach PC GRAYDON, Clifford Emerson PC GUILLEMARD, Sarah Fort Richmond PC HELWER, Reg Brandon West PC ISLEIFSON, Len Brandon East PC JOHNSON, Derek Interlake PC JOHNSTON, Scott St. James PC KINEW, Wab Fort Rouge NDP KLASSEN, Judy Kewatinook Lib. LAGASSÉ, Bob Dawson Trail PC LAGIMODIERE, Alan Selkirk PC LAMOUREUX, Cindy Burrows Lib. LATHLIN, Amanda The Pas NDP LINDSEY, Tom Flin Flon NDP MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood NDP MARCELINO, Flor Logan NDP MARCELINO, Ted Tyndall Park NDP MARTIN, Shannon Morris PC MAYER, Colleen St. Vital PC MICHALESKI, Brad Dauphin PC MICKLEFIELD, Andrew, Hon.

Rossmere PC MORLEY-LECOMTE, Janice Seine River PC NESBITT, Greg Riding Mountain PC PALLISTER, Brian, Hon. Fort Whyte PC PEDERSEN, Blaine, Hon. Midland PC PIWNIUK, Doyle Arthur-Virden PC REYES, Jon St. Norbert PC SARAN, Mohinder The Maples Ind. SCHULER, Ron, Hon. St. Paul PC SELINGER, Greg St. Boniface NDP SMITH, Andrew Southdale PC SMOOK, Dennis La Verendrye PC SQUIRES, Rochelle, Hon. Riel PC STEFANSON, Heather, Hon. Tuxedo PC SWAN, Andrew Minto NDP TEITSMA, James Radisson PC WHARTON, Jeff Gimli PC WIEBE, Matt Concordia NDP WISHART, Ian, Hon.

Portage la Prairie PC WOWCHUK, Rick Swan River PC YAKIMOSKI, Blair Transcona PC Vacant Point Douglas

2529 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Monday, May 29, 2017 The House met at 1:30 p.m. Madam Speaker: O Eternal and Almighty God, from Whom all power and wisdom come, we are assembled here befor e Thee to frame such laws as may tend to the welfare and prosperity of our province. Grant, O merciful God, we pray Thee, that we may desire only that which is in accordance with Thy will, that we may seek it with wisdom and know it with certainty and acco mplish it perfectly for the glory and honour of Thy name and for the welfare of all our people. Amen. Please be seated.

Speaker's Statement Madam Speaker: I have a statement for the House. I would like to draw members' attention to the table today as I am pleased to introduce to the House our new Sergeant -at-Arms, Mr. Dave Shuttleworth. Mr. Shuttleworth will be the first full -time Sergeant- at-Arms in the history of the Manitoba Legislature with an expanded role and new responsibilities. These changes to the Sergeant's role and duties will bring Manitoba in line with other legislatures in Canada and were approved by LAMC.

Sergeant Shuttleworth brings a wealth of experience to the Assembly as a 30-year veteran of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, where he rose to the rank of inspector. His extensive policing career included postings in Nunavut, Labrador, Ottawa and Saskatchewan as well as various detachments across Manitoba, including his las t posting as operations officer for the RCMP Manitoba North District in Thompson.

Some of his responsibilities with the RCMP included serving as both a detachment commander and a district commander, command of the Aboriginal operations unit of National Aboriginal Policing and Crime Prevention Services, respon- sibility for contract and Aboriginal policing programs for the province of Manitoba. I would also like to note for the House, as Sergeant Shuttleworth is a member of the Manitoba Metis community, he will become the first indigenous Sergeant-at-Arms in the 146- year history of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba.

Sergeant Shuttleworth, on behalf of all honourable members and all Assembly staff, I welcome you to your new role. And at this time, I woul d also like to introduce his family who are with us today. Seated in the Speaker's Gallery, we have his wife, Isabel Shuttleworth; children, James, Jamie and Joshua Shuttleworth; grandchild, River Storm; sister, Roxanne Shuttleworth; and nieces Chloe Shuttleworth and Arielle Williams. On behalf of all honourable members here, we welcome you here to the Manitoba Legislature. ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Bill 37–The Concussion in Youth Sport Act Hon.

Rochelle Squires (Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage): Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Health, that Bill 37, The Concussion in Youth Sport Act;

Loi sur les commotions cérébrales chez les jeunes athlètes , be now read a first time. Motion presented. Ms. Squires: I am pleased to rise in the House today for the first reading of Bill 37, The Concussion in Youth Sport Act;

Loi sur les commotions cérébrales chez les jeunes athlètes. This is a new bill that proposes the introduction of measures to optimize concussion awarene ss, education, prevention and management of con - cussions sustained in youth sport in Manitoba. The Concussions in Youth Sport Act would accelerate the awareness and education efforts and provide active mechanisms to remove youth athletes from play and provide defined protocols for proper medical clearances to know when it is safe for a youth athlete to return to play.

If this legislation can prevent any possible consequences of concussions, it will be a major step forward, a step that may lead to more conc ussion legislation across Canada. I am pleased to present this bill to the House for its consideration.

2530 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] Bill 203–The Electoral Divisions Amendment Act Hon. Steven Fletcher (Assiniboia): I move, seconded by the member from The Maples, that Bill 203, The Electoral Divisions Amendment Act, be now read for a first time. Motion presented. Mr. Fletcher: This bill's been on the Order Paper for a year, and I was waiting for confi rmation in the federal census, which was released on February 16th of this year.

And this bill reduces the number of seats in the Legislature by eight, though I think it could be easily amended to make it as high as 20. We are overgoverned in Manitoba. We want to look for efficiencies and effective government, and this is completely consistent with smaller Cabinet, smaller government, responsible government and more effective government. So I look forward to the debate. The boundaries are going to be changed before the next election in any case, so this would be a good opportunity to reflect on how we want those changes to be made. Thank you.

Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] Bill 205–The Brookside Cemetery Recognition Act Hon. Steven Fletcher (Assiniboia): I move, seconded by the member from River Heights, that The Brookside Cemetery Recognition Act, be now read for a first time. Motion presented. * (13:40) Mr. Fletcher: Madam Speaker, this is one of the most significant cemeteries just not in Canada, but in the Commonwealth.

There is a –many thousands of military veterans–Tommy Prince, a well -known and famous Aboriginal hero– Canadian hero, t here are many other prominent Manitobans and it's a beautiful, seren e place and I believe it is among, I would say, one of the great treasures of Canada both spiritually and from a historic perspective. Thank you. Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] Bill 206–The Legal Profession Amendment Act (Queen's Counsel Appointments) Hon.

Steven Fletcher (Assiniboia): Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the member from The Maples, that The Legal Profession Amendment Act (Queen's Counsel Appointments), be now read a first time. Motion presented. Mr. Fletcher: Madam Speaker, in this year, our 150th year, given the Queen's record- breaking reign and given the good things the legal profession–yes, I said it–good things the legal profession can do for society, there is a historic honorific designation that can be provided: Q.C. is the one that has been used for centuries.

The previous government took it away, but it's still used in most provinces today and would be an excellent way to recognize meritorious legal minds such as Sid Green, who is a stellar example of public life, public service and also being a lawyer. Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? Agreed? An Honourable Member: Agreed. Madam Speaker: Did somebody agree? An Honourable Member: Agreed. Madam Speaker: Agreed and so ordered. Bill 202–The Insurance Amendment Act Hon.

Steven Fletcher (Assiniboia): Madam Speaker, this is a bill, the insurance– Madam Speaker: Could I just ask the member to indicate the number of the bill he's proposing? Mr. Fletcher: Moved by myself and seconded by the member for Kewatinook (Ms. Klassen), that The Insurance Amendment Act be now read a first time. Madam Speaker: It has been moved by the honourable member for Assiniboia, seconded by the honourable member for Kewatinook, that Bill 202 – The Insurance Amendment Act , be now read a first time. Mr.

Fletcher: Madam Speaker, this deals with medical assistance in dying, something that I was very involved in when I was a federal Member of Parliament. The reason for this amendment is there is a very serious loophole in the amendment act –or, in The Insurance Act –that still allows for insurance companies to potentially call a medically assisted dying a suicide, and if it's declared a suicide there could be changes to the beneficiaries of the said insurance.

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2531 So this bill ensures that medically assisted – medically assistance in dying cannot be considered suicide for insurance purposes. Madam Speaker: Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion? [Agreed] COMMITTEE REPORTS Standing Committee on Public Accounts Fourth Report Mr. Matt Wiebe (Chairperson): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the Fourth Report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts. Clerk (Ms. Patricia Chaychuk): Your Standing Committee on Public Accounts– Some Honourable Members: Dispense. Madam Speaker: Dispense.

Your Standing Committee on Public Accounts presents the following as its Fourth Report. Meetings Your Committee met on May 25, 2017 at 7:00 p.m. in Room 255 of the Legislative Building. Matters under Consideration • Auditor General's Report – Manitoba East Side Road Authority – dated September 2016 • Auditor General 's Report – Public Interest Disclosure Investigation Manitoba East Side Road Authority – dated September 2016 Committee Membership • Mr. BINDLE • Mr. HELWER (Vice-Chairperson) • Mr. JOHNSON • Ms. KLASSEN • Mr. MALOWAY • Mr. MARCELINO • Mr. MICHALESKI • Ms. MORLEY-LECOMTE • Mr. SMOOK • Mr.

WIEBE (Chairperson) • Mr. YAKIMOSKI Substitutions received prior to committee proceedings on May 25, 2017: • Mr. J OHNSON for Mrs. MAYER • Mr. SMOOK for Mr. JOHNSTON Officials Speaking on Record Officials speaking on record at the May 25, 2017 meeting: • Norm Ricard, Auditor General of Manitoba • Hon. Mr.

PEDERSEN, Minister of Infrastructure • Lance Vigfusson, Deputy Minister of Infrastructure Reports Considered and Adopted: Your Committee has considered the following reports and has adopted the same as presented: • Auditor General's Report – Manitoba East Side Road Authority – dated September 2016 • Auditor General's Report – Public Interest Disclosure Investigation Manitoba East Side Road Authority – dated September 2016 Mr. Wiebe: Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable member for Brandon West (Mr. Helwer), that the report of the committee be received. Motion agreed to.

MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS Madam Speaker: The honourable Minister of Sports, Culture and Heritage, and I would indicate that the required 90 minutes notice prior to routine proceedings was provided in accordance with our rule 26(2). Would the honourable minister ple ase proceed with her statement. L'Association culturel franco-manitobaine Hon. Rochelle Squires (Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage): Merci beaucoup. Madame la Présidente, je prends la parole aujourd'hui pour reconna itre et célébrer le travail l'Association culturel franco-manitobaine.

Cet organisme est un groupe de coordination qui représente 19 comités culturels du Manitoba rural. Il appuie une culture francophone rurale dynamique ainsi que les arts dans notre province, en aidant à élaborer des services de programmation et de soutien pour ces comités. Translation Madam Speaker, I rise today to recognize and celebrate the work of the Association culturelle franco-manitobaine.

2532 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 This organization is an umbrella group representing 19 cultural communities in rural Manitoba. It supports a vibrant rural francophone culture and the arts in our province by helping with the development of programming and support services to its member committees. English In addition to bringing together francophone committees–communities and organizations in our province, the association has strong ties with a sister organization in New Brunswick, a province with which Manitoba shares a proud history of bilingualism.

Beginning two years ago, they began a project called Lieux -Dits by compiling a list of places in rural Manitoba that had significance to the franco- phone community, and 29 sites were chosen. Ensuite, un projet a rassemblé des él èves d'écoles françaises et d 'immersion, ainsi que des ainés de la communauté francophone. Les élèves ont suivi une formation pour apprendre les techniques de base de l'histoire orale. Elle leur a permis de faire des entrevues avec des personnes âgées qui ont des souvenirs liés à ces lieux traditionnels.

Translation This was followed by a project that brought together students in French and French- immersion schools with elders from the francophone community. Students were trained in basic oral history techniques that allowed them t o conduct interviews with seniors who have memories of these traditional places. English With the help of CBC/Radio -Canada, the students produced audio clips that let listeners hear the stories of elders in the community. Starting in September, they wer e broadcast on Radio- Canada every week. A booklet summarizing all 29 stories was also produced.

Included with it is a USB card containing the 29 oral history clips. Copies of these booklets were presented to the participants at an event in April, and about 600 additional copies will soon be distributed in schools, libraries and community organizations across the province. Madame la Présidente, ce type d'initiative enrichit notre province sur le plan social aussi bien que culturel, en rassemblant des jeunes et des aînés pour partager des histoires. Translation Madam Speaker, this kind of initiative enriches our province both socially and culturally by bringing together young and old to share stories.

English Such an initiative nourishes Franco -Manitoban culture by ensuring that such stories are not forgotten in our own community. J'espère que vous vous joindrez à moi pour féliciter l'Association culturelle franco -manitobaine de son travail, ainsi que les personnes de tous âges qui y ont participé. Merci beaucoup. Translation I hope you will join me in congratulating the Association culturelle franco -manitobaine and the participants, young and old, for their work. Thank you very much.

English And I'd like to ask everyone to welcome members of the Association culturelle franco - manitobaine into the House today. Mr. Greg Selinger (St. Boniface): Merci au ministre pour son discours aujourd'hui. Je prends la parole aujourd'hui pour souligner la contribution importante de l'Association culturelle franco-manitobaine à notre province. Pendant plus de trois décennies, cet organisme a travaillé afin de promouvoir et dé velopper la culture et les arts dans les comm unautés francophones rurales.

En septembre 2015, l'Association a lancé le projet « Les lieux -dits en ruralité manitobaine . . . une histoire, un patrimoine, une culture afin » de mettre en vedette les communaut és francophones rurales. Au cours des deux dernières ann ées, les Manitobains et Manitobaines de tous les âges se sont rassemblés pour cr éer des capsules audio racontant les histoires locales, celle s des lieux-dits, comme l a gare de la Broquerie et l'église de Laurier.

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2533 Après deux ans de travail intense, le projet a été récemment achevé. Les histories recueillies à partir de ce projet nous enseignent qui nous sommes et d'où nous venons. Madame la présidente, j’aimerais remercier les membres de l’Association culturelle fran co- manitobaine, qui sont présents parmi nous aujourd’hui, pour leur contribution exceptionnelle au secteur culturel et au patrimoine de notre province. Grâce à leurs efforts, la culture franco - manitobaine continuera de s’épanouir et de grandir dans tous les coins de la province. Merci.

Translation Thank you to the minister for her speech today. I rise today to acknowledge the important contribution of the Association culturel franco- manitobaine to our province. For over three decades this organization has worked to promote and develop culture and the arts in rural Francophone communities. In September 2015, the Association launched a project called: Rural Manitoba landmarks: a history, a heritage, a culture , to showcase rural Francophone communities.

Over the past two years, Manitobans of all ages gathered to create audio records recounting the history of local landmarks such as the train station in La Broquerie and the church in Laurier. * (13:50) After two years of intense work, the project was recently completed. The stories gathered through this project teach us who we are and where we are from. Madam Speaker, I would like to thank the members of the Association culturelle franco -manitobaine, who are present here with us today for their exceptional contributions to the culture and heritage sectors of our province.

Thanks to their efforts , the Franco-Manitoban culture will continue to develop all across the province. Thank you. Ms. Cindy Lamoureux (Burrows): Madam Speaker, I ask leave to speak in response to the minister's statement. Madam Speaker: Does the member have leave to speak in response to the statement? [Agreed] Ms. Lamoureux: The French -Manitoban Cultural Association dates back to the early 1970s, however, it was officially founded in 1986. The association facilitates and showcases talented youth and adults through large -scale events all throughout our province.

These events are an opportunity for artists to promote their cultural diversity through art, music and dance. To date, there are 19 cultural committees and the association seeks to increase even more opportunities to promote the French language. Madam Speaker, the primary focus being to promote cultural diversity is a great mission and we believe it is truly outstanding the amount of effort and skill that has gone into this. I would encourage everyone to try and identify ways that they can promote cultural diversity and to participate in events to help support notre [our] Association culturel franco-manitobaine.

And I'd like to thank the members from the Association for joining us here today. Thank you. Ms. Squires : Madam Speaker, I ask for leave to enter the names of my guests into Hansard. Madam Speaker: Does the minister have leave to enter the names of her guests into Hansard. [Agreed] Ms.

Squires guests: Louis Allain, DG CDEM; Justine Aubut-Beaudry, Préposée aux membres ACFM; Daniel Boucher DG SFM; Réal Déquier, Patrimoine Canada; Jocelyne Doré, VP AC FM; Alain Laberge DG DSFM; Méo Labossière, Président ACFM; Marcelle Lussier, Urbanink ; Patrick Rey, Radio - Canada; Louis Tétrault DG AMBM; Josée Théberge, DG Canada Madam Speaker: The honourable Minister for Infrastructure–and I would indicate that the required 90 minutes notice prior to routine proceedings was provided in accordance with our rule 26 (2). Would the honourable minister please proceed with his statement.

2534 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 Northern Flood Update Hon. Blaine Pedersen (Minister of Infrastructure): Concern over the high waters of the 2017 spring flood is now focused on communities in northern Manitoba. Melting heavy winter snows across the North are impacting the northern rail line and the Churchill River is at very high levels. The Canadian Red Cross is co- ordinating the delivery of critical supplies by air to First Nations communities which rely on the rail line for supplies.

Several provincial departments are co-ordinating with federal officials and the Canadian Red Cross to ensure the safety and comfort of the evacuees. In the community of Churchill, efforts are under way to protect the pump station which provides water to the town. Manitoba Hydro is working with provincial officials to sandbag the facility. We also acknowledge the 564 residents of Red Sucker Lake First Nation who have been evacuated as a result of smoke and wildfire threats. Canadian Red Cross is co-ordinating the evacuation.

The fire is now under control and the Canadian Red Cross is working with the community on a repatriation plan. As we said, during flooding in central and southern Manitoba we have a history of pulling together in tough times and, once again, we applaud the efforts our response partners. In particular, Madam Speaker, I would like to single out the community members , Manitoba Hydro, the Red Cross and EMO staff and all affected people in this effort to protect everyone. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Mr.

Tom Lindsey (Flin Flon): At this time of year, many Manitoba communities are feeling the impact of either flooding or, traditionally, forest fires. Manitoba's North continues to bear the brunt of these natural disasters. Ice jamming on northern rivers and overland flooding have disrupted the lives of many communities who have to face property damage and undergo evacuations. Flood damage has left the rail line to Churchill out of commission and has made the town somewhat inaccessible, other than by air. Fire activity is always a risk in northern Manitoba.

Forest fire conditions can become extreme and cause fires to spread quickly, become out of control and threaten our northern communities. It is important that people throughout the province exercise caution in their outdoor activities, as conditions from sparking forest fires in our province can be higher throughout the summer season. We'd like to thank the Infrastructure Department and all those contractors and others for their quick response in repairing flood damage to Hi ghway 391, the main road link to the people of Lynn Lake.

We look forward to seeing this government's plan in addressing these issues in the future. We need to find long- term solutions for prevention and protection measures for both flooding and forest fires, and we need to ensure that supplies are getting to all Manitoba communities impacted by floods or fires. On behalf of our NDP caucus, we continue to send our sincerest thoughts and support to the residents who have been disrupted by these events, as well as the emergency response workers and volunteers who a re working hard to protect our northern communities from floods and forest fires. Ms.

Judy Klassen (Kewatinook): I ask for leave to respond to the ministerial statement. Madam Speaker: Does th e member have leave to respond to the ministerial statement? [Agreed] Ms. Klassen: Thank you. On behalf of the Red Sucker Lake chief and council, I would like to extend our appreciation to the organizations for the evacuation efforts thus far. I had the chance to witness first -hand the first two days, which can be summed up as organized chaos. Over 560 people were forced to leave their homes for safety due to the forest fire. A beautiful 550 hectares of boreal forest has been lost.

No human lives were lost , due to the evacuation, but we know that many of the homes and lives of our beloved four -legged relations have been lost and I would like to request a moment of silence after my statement for our four-legged relations. I call upon my colleagues in thi s House to be proactive in long-term planning for disasters; climate change is real and it is impacting our world. We should have firebreak lines surro unding our boreal communities. There should always be trained people in basic first aid. Perhaps our m inister of

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2535 indigenous affai rs could create a template that –so that every community can use it to draft their own emergency response plans. I always encourage innovation and out - of-the-box thinking, and in respect of transportation in the North, I'd like to table this

article on airships. I see it as a beautiful solution to the problems that we are facing in the North, and it's out -of-the-box thinking like this that will go a long way. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker: Is there leave as requested for a moment of silence? [Agreed] Please stand. A moment of silence was observed. MEMBERS' STATEMENTS Concordia Hospital ER Mr. Jim Maloway (Elmwood): Northeast Winnipeg residents are shocked and angered that this govern- ment is closing the Concordia emergency room and the intensive care unit.

I've been running ads in The Herald weekly newspaper and have been getting a huge response to my survey. The ad reads as follows: Concordia Hospital's emergency room serves over 150,000 Manitobans in northeast Winnipeg and Transcona, with around 30,000 patients seeking treatment annually. The provincial government is eliminating the Concordia ER and the ICU unit and will force 30,000 patients to fight their way to the already overstressed St. Boniface ER and Health Sciences ER. Concordia Hospital's ER is one of the three ERs being closed by this–by the Province.

The –combined with the additional visits from Victoria's 30,000, Seven Oaks's 40,000 ER patients, every year a total o f 100,000 Winnipeggers will have to fight their way to the remaining three ERs, fighting extra traffic, increased parking problems and fees, just to wait at existing overstressed ERs. These overstressed remaining three ERs are expected to take up these extra 100,000 treatment 'visitets' without properly increasing their capacity to handle them, and add to that the extra, I believe it's 40,000 from Misericordia, we have a total of about 140,000 visits now in the remaining three.

This will result in chaos in our health-care system. * (14:00) And attached is a survey which reads: Should the Concordia Hospital ER be kept open to service the needs of north- east Winnipeg and Transcona? And I will say that all members are invited to participate in the survey, and they can go to– Madam Speaker: The member's time has expired. Sarah Campbell, YWCA Award Recipient Mr. Andrew Smith (Southdale): I rise in the Legislature today to speak about an individual in my constituency who has achieved so much in such a short period of time, becoming a role model amongst her peers.

I recently attended the YWCA Winnipeg Women of Distinction awards and learned about one of the nominees, Sarah Campbell, a young woman who has accomplished so much, given a great deal of voluntary time to our community. Sarah's volunteering activities are extensive and impressive. Among these, she has volunteered at St.

Amant Centre for those with special needs; Alex's Scarves, knitting scarves for schools in need of winter clothing; Students Helping O ur World, where she assisted and recently became a leader in putting on events and activities to benefit those in need ; as a Canadian Blood Services ambassador, recording donors and blood drives and informing the public on the process of donating blood; cr eating a community garden where she built a garden box, planted seeds, and grew produce that she donated to Winnipeg Harvest; acted as a peer tutor, tutoring students in precalculus.

She p articipated in a Natural Helpers program, where she listened to and supported peers in dealing with difficult situations. Her accomplishments , Madam Speaker, are equally impressive, as she w as a 2016 United Way community s ervices recipient, a 2017 Premier's award–service award recipient, a 2017 Gerrie Hammond Memorial Award of Promise nominee, and after being on the honour roll with distinction for the entirety of her education at J.H. Bruns Collegiate, she is the class of 2017 valedictorian.

Manitobans are among the most generous people in the world, boasting a long history of volunteerism and 'philantropy'. We honour Sarah today as she exemplifies these very values , and wi ll continue to be a role model for young Manitobans, the very future of our great province. With us here today in the gallery to cele brate with Sarah is her family: Margaret Campbell, Dean Campbell, Jamie Campbell, Colin Campbell, Gwen Campbell, James Bryden and Stacey Bryden.

2536 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 I call on the House to join me in celebrating Sarah's successes. Transcona Memorial United Church Mr. Blair Yakimoski (Transcona): Transcona Memorial United Church is no ordinary place of Christian worship. It is a hub of community activity, encompassing the gamut from expectant parents with the Fa milies Connecting program. It is there for those who struggle to make ends meet, as the church is home to the Transcona Food Bank. The Transcona Council for Seniors meet to provide companionship and a sense of community in our changing world.

Established in 1953 through the amalgamation of four local churches and with a new building, the church began to grow in its mission to foster and nurture growth in worship, sharing, and being welcoming to all. It also grew in its quest to serve the community around it. That service continues today , and, under the direction of Rev erend Carol Fletcher and Reverend Jeff Cook, they continue to search for ways to do good for their community while engaging people to care for each other, all the while growing the pride of all that touch their ministry.

Last Thursday, they were delighted to be able to cut the ribbon on a new community extension building, a $2- million project which they have been working on for many years. This will offer enhanced programming space with large naturally lit rooms and ensure that those who utilize the progra ms offered will be able to access them with the d ignity of doing so in a barrier-free building.

The groups which I have already mentioned are but a few of the many which utilize the facilities, bringing hundreds of people to the church each week, and each one of those will benefit from the renovation as it looks to the future. During the renovations, yes, there were challenges, but through those challenges you could see Carol in her pink hard hat, forging ahead, ever positive, working diligently to create this legacy for the community. The new addition, with its focus on accessibility, seems to mirror the phrase: let's make our building as open and as inclusive as we are.

T he TMUC community embodies this in all they do. Please join me in congrat ulating Carol Fletcher, the TMUC executive, building planning team and all who will utilize– Madam Speaker: The member's time has expired. An Honourable Member: Madam Speaker, may I have leave to continue? Madam Speaker: Does the member have leave to complete his statement? [Agreed] Mr. Yakimoski: Please congratulate those members who are here in attendance, and thank you for being an integral part of our caring Transcona community.

Madam Speaker, I ask for leave to include the names of those that were instrumental in getting this project moving forward. Madam Speaker: Does the member have leave to have those names included in Hansard? [Agreed] HSA Design, particularly Heather Sarna, To m Tomchyshyn and Tamara Nyysola; Parkwest Projects, particularly R ene Massicotte; TMUC's team: Bob Kirkhope, Terry Cousins and Carol Fletcher; TMUC administrative staff: Lynn Measner and Lauri e Chudley; TMUC's council, chaired in this process by Gail Purcell, Deanna Howard, Harvey Hochkievich and Audrey Lumsden, and congregation. Mr.

Maloway: I would like to table the two documents that I referred to in my statement. Madam Speaker: I would indicate that the member has indicated that he is tabling the documents that he included in his statements. Thank you. Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Madam Speaker: Order, please. Order, please.

I have to indicate that, from my position, I did not see what was being tabled, but I'm understanding from some of the comments that are being made here that there may have been some props that were put forward by the member, and I would caution all members–and all members, I'm sure, understand the rules–that there are no props to be used in making any statements here in the House. Cricket Demonstration and Tournament Hon. Cameron Friesen (Minister of Finance): I rise today in the House to bring attention to an event that took place recently in the Morden- Winkler constituency.

On April the 29th, Winkler held its first ever cricket demonstration and tournament. The exciting event was hosted by Winkler's own cricket club, took place at the Winkler Arena. Four teams played in the tournament, three from Winkler:

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2537 the Pharma- Six team, the South African team, the Winkler Cricket Club and special guest team from The Maples, Sher -e-Maple. And the r esidents of Winkler and the surrounding community attended to watch the matches and get acquainted with the game. For those of you who don't know, cricket is the second most popular sport in the world. As Winkler's cricket club's president, Zahid Zehri, puts it, cricket is the refined form of baseball, or in Zahid's words, the better version of baseball.

Cricket is a team sport where matches can last anything from an afternoon to several days. And though the sport is intricate and has many rules, the tournament offered a lesson on the–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Friesen : –basics for viewers to learn and take

part in the festivities. Cricket is a growing sport in my community and across the province. The Winkler Cricket Club will be getting its own pitch later this year, situated in the northeast part of the city . This new pitch will not only allow the Winkler team to practis e, but it also provides others in the community the opportunity to learn and engage with the sport. The game of cricket is a great way for people to develop friendships, team skills and leadership. It promotes the importance of sport in bringing people together from different backgrounds and cultures.

Winkler's successful tournament is a great example of the bene fits in living in an increasingly culturally diverse community. On behalf of Morden-Winkler, I congratulate the Winkler Cricket Club on its successful event and look forward to the completion of the new cricket pitch. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker: Order, please. Discriminatory Practices Mr. Mohinder Saran (The Maples): Madam Speaker, it is my honour to rise in the Chamber today to outline the worries and concerns about ongoing discriminatory practices in many fronts, to call for an end of discrimination in some sectors.

The history of discrimination dates back until 1940. South Asians were denied voting rights in provincial elections –excuse–until 1948. Racist immigration policy continued in Canada until the 1960s. I know from my personal experience about discrimination by living in the province for the last four decades. The Province practi sed a dis - criminatory preferential treatment in immigrant intake even in 2007.

South Asian immigrants in nursing, teaching and o ther professions were considered less qualified and lesser preferred for intake than immigrants of other countries with similar education and skills. * (14:10) As an MLA in 2007, I advocated proportionate immigrant acceptance from different countries and removal of persistent barriers. As a result some barriers were removed in part, not in full. As a provincial employee , I myself had to go through human rights processes because of discrimination in my workplace.

Like many of my constituents, I have personally experienced subjection to discrimination, even in 2017. A gravely discriminatory practice is evident in the enactment of Bill 30. This brings the enormous concern and worry to the taxi industry workforce in Manitoba. The taxi industry in Manitoba is operated mostly by the South Asian immigrants. These entrepreneurs went through a complex licensing process, invested their hard -earned income and created self -employment, which ev entually relieved the provincial government from pressure of job creation for the immigrants.

The Bill 30, to pave the way for Uberization, will devastate their livelihood and social well- being. The Bill 30 is serving as

an act of discrimination against the South Asians in Manitoba– Madam Speaker: The member's time as expired. Mr. Saran: May I have leave? Madam Speaker: The member is asking for leave to complete his statement? Some Honourable Members: Leave. Madam Speaker: Leave has been granted, i f the member could, please, quickly complete his statement. Mr. Saran: Thank you. The Bill 30 is–served as

an act of discrimination against the South Asians in Manitoba. As dis - criminatory practices are causing barriers to South Asian immigrants' socio -economic integration in

2538 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 Manitoba, many of them are considering moving to other provinces. On behalf of the people of The Maples and the Indo-Canadian immigrants, I demand the above - addressed disc riminatory practices be stopped and barriers to integration of South Asian immigrants be removed. Thank you. Introduction of Guests Madam Speaker: Prior to oral questions, we have some guests in the gallery that I would like to introduce to you.

Unfortunately, I think the students f rom River East Collegiate may have left, but there were 25 grade 9 students under the direction of Dennis Dekleva and Ms. Gill, and this group is located in the constituency of the honourable Minister for Sustainable Development (Mrs. Cox). Also in the p ublic gallery from Carberry Collegiate we have 47 grade 9 students under the direction of Ms . Raegan Dyck, and this group is located in the constituency of the honourable Minister of Indigenous and Municipal Relations (Ms. Clarke).

And also in the public gallery we have with us today from the Transcona Memorial United Church: Carol Fletcher, Lynn Messner, Terry Cousins, Cynthia Ostapyk, Susan Copeland, Audrey Lumsden, David George, Wally Stoyko, who are the guests of the honourable member for Transcona (Mr. Yakimoski). On behalf of all members here, we welcome all of you to the Manitoba Legislature. Speaker's Statement Madam Speaker: And also, we have two pages, and this is their last day in the Legislature as well, so I would like to just make a few short comments about both of the pages.

Sarah Miller will be graduating from Springfield Collegiate Institute in 2018. She plans to go into medicine, to become a respiratory therapist, at the University of Manitoba. Sarah plays club badminton and participates in many tournaments throughout the year. She is on Team Manitoba Badminton. Sarah spends her summers camping with her family and volunteering at vocational bible school at her church. Working as a page at the Legislature is a time she will never forget. It was an eye -opening experience and the members were welcoming and kind.

She has said that she has practised calling votes so m any times that she will always remember the order of the members. We wish her the best in the future and would happily welcome her to return one day to our Legislature. Nathan Dueck is graduating from Westgate Mennonite Collegiate, class of 2017. He is the recipient of the Canadian Mennonite University Leadership Entrance Scholarship and will work towards a humanities degree at that institution this fall. This summer Nathan will volunteer at Manitoba Pioneer Camp as a lifeguard and cabin leader. Nathan has loved paging at the Legislature this past year.

He will, however, always remember the brief feeling of panic that he felt on his first day on the job and when he was asked by the Premier (Mr. Pallister) what his name was and responded Mr. Dueck instead of Nathan. He appreciates and respects the kindness and hard work demonstrated on a daily basis by the members of the Legislative Assembly. And, on behalf of all members here, we wish you both the very best of luck as you continue your future careers. ORAL QUESTIONS Municipal Infrastructure Budget Government Funding Plan Ms.

Flor Marcelino (Leader of the Official Opposition): Again, we join you and the rest of our House in wishing our pages the best of everything in the days ahead. Madam Speaker, it's been seven weeks since the provincial budget, yet many municipal officials are only now learning that the government has hit their infrastructure and transit funding. With growing demands and inflation, this is a cut to our municipalities. This is not the kind of transparency the Premier promised. Why is the Premier breaking his pledge to openness and accountability? Hon.

Brian Pallister (Premier): Well, Madam Speaker, before I respond in respect of our generous

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2539 arrangements with municipalities in Manitoba, let me welcome our new Sergeant -at-Arms to this Assembly and wish him all the best. We thank him for taking on this challenge. And if I could add to–both to Sarah and to Nathan, to say all the best in your future. We've appreciated your approach here, and your friendly smiles and demeanour will carry you a long way in life in spite of the challenges you've had to face in this Chamber.

For Sarah, having an extensive career in badminton has helped her, no doubt, to understand that this place is sometimes for the birds as well. Nathan, Mr. Dueck, I should say, wish you all the very best in your future, young man. Our relationship with municipal governments is a very important one for the future of this province. We want to be an d we strive to be Canada's most improved province in our first term, and that, of course, can only happen if Winnipeg is Canada's most improved city as well.

We're committed to that relationship and building it, and that is why we have maintained the most generous funding arrangements with municipal governments in the country of Canada, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker: The honourable interim Leader of the Official Opposition, on a supplementary question. Ms. Marcelino: We have asked about the City of Winnipeg and municipal funding numerous times in this House and in Estimates, and the government's response is that their partners are pleased with the budget.

Yet, when we revealed the Premier's plans mean cuts for municipalities, the mayor said that Winnipeggers should be expecting pain for the city's infrastructure, pain for its roads and pain for the city budget. Why has it taken seven weeks for municipalities to hear about the Premier's painful plans for our municipalities? Mr. Pallister: Well, perhaps par t of the reason that the AMM, Association of Manitoba Municipalities, members are so pleased with the new relationship they're forging with the provincial government is because they remember the genuine pain of years gone by.

They remember the elimination of a third of their members, Madam Speaker, without any consultation whatsoever. They also remember the previous administration hiking fees, broadening the PST onto the–apply to the things it had never applied for before, like benefits that they supply to their workers, like the buildings they must insure, the vehicles that they own and so on.

And they also remember, Madam Speaker, the incredible and onerous burden that the previous administration placed on them by way of its mismanagement, causing a credi t rating downgrade for the Province which then led to a credit rating downgrade for the City of Winnipeg. Madam Speaker, for these and many, many other reasons, the new relationship between the City of Winnipeg, its government and the Province of Manitoba is a stronger one than ever before. Madam Speaker: The honourable interim Leader of the Official Opposition, on a final supplementary. Ms.

Marcelino: The Premier's own city councillor says that he does not think the Province should be downloading expenses onto the citizens of Winnipeg. Yet, that is exactly what is happening; worse, the Premier has hid his intentions. * (14:20) Many municipalities have already set their budgets, yet the Premier has concealed his cuts only to be revealed seven–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Ms. Marcelino: –weeks later. Why is the Premier downloading costs and hiding his cuts? Mr.

Pallister: Well, Madam Speaker, we, of course, are on a road to recovery and we've taken responsible steps on that road already by shoring up our credit rating, not seeing it decline. But the credit rating downgrade isn't something to be underestimated. It is an additional cost not only to the taxpayers of Manitoba, but also to the ratepayers of Winnipeg, and so they are doubly hit by this impact, and this mismanagement under the previous government was well understood.

That being said, we are committed to maintaining a strong and generous relationship, the most generous in Canada according to the former minister, Drew Caldwell, according to the former Finance minister, Greg Dewar –the most generous in Canada, and we'll maintain that relationship, Madam Speaker, because we care about the future of Manitoba and the future of the city of Winnipeg as well.

2540 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 Municipal Infrastructure Budget Government Funding Plan Mr. Jim Maloway (Elmwood): Madam Speaker, my question is to the Premier as well. Madam Speaker, in this House on April 13th, the minister said she had met with municipalities and they were, quote, very pleased with the budget for infrastructure. Yet, now, civic leaders– Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Maloway: –civic leaders are saying that these cuts will bring pain to their communities.

Why has the Premier hidden his cuts and why has the minister concealed her plans from communities? Hon. Brian Pallister (Premier): I thank the member for the question. I thank any NDP member for a question on transparency, Madam Speaker, because it allows me to reference a number of failures in that respect by the previous administration. Certainly, the decision announced on the eve of the Association of Manitoba Municipalities' meeting to eliminate one third of the members of that organization without any consultation did not demonstrate any kind of commitment to transparency whatsoever.

In addition–and their own members, I know, will agree with me on this –their decision to, in the 2013 budget, raise the PST was a surprise even to NDP members, Madam Speaker –no consultation at all. Yet, the previous government now asks questions about transparency. When it was in government it had the chance to demonstrate it cared about it; it failed to do that. We will demonstrate that transparency as Manitoba's new government. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Elmwood, on a supplementary question. Mr. Maloway: The Premier never got close t o answering the question.

In this House on April 27th, the minister said that she had met with the Winnipeg mayor to explain her budget in detail and that he was, quote, totally accepting of our budget. Yet, now, the true effect of the budget has been rev ealed. What does the mayor say now? He says the budget means pain for Winnipeg infrastructure and Winnipeg taxpayers. Why is the Premier balancing the books on the backs of Winnipeggers? Mr. Pallister: Well, it's a nice line if you don't think about it, Madam Speaker, but it just isn't supported by the facts.

The facts are these: we maintain, in both our first two budgets, commitments that are the most generous in Canada. I mean, it's not just me saying it; it's a former NDP Cabinet minister saying the same thing. We're maintaining support far and away beyond the kind of support expected by other cities across Canada from a provincial government. We continue to do that and we continue to build a strong working relationship with members of the Association of Manitoba Municipalities, included among them, of course, the City of Winnipeg.

Madam Speaker, that is why the AMM and its members have been so supportive of the relationship of trust that we are building with their members. Madam Speaker: The honoura ble member for Elmwood, on a final supplementary. Mr. Maloway: Madam Speaker, I've asked the minister to be clear about our funding for municipal priorities. By law, the funding that keeps communities should be at nearly $340 million. Communities are now concerned and unclear about their funding. Will the minister state clearly, what is the size of the Strategic Municipal Investment Fund? How much less than $340 million is it? Mr.

Pallister: Well, we're on to a new agenda now, Madam Speaker. As opposed t o the rocky road to ruin, we're on the road to recovery now. The previous administration managed to jack up the PST. It hurt cities like the city of Winnipeg and rural municipalities as well–hurt them very dramatically–and what we're going to do, Madam Speaker, is lower the PST, which the previous members said they wouldn't raise.

We're going to correct the error –a tragic error in terms of a lack of integrity by the previous government –we're going to correct it by reducing the PST, and so to update our agreement, naturally, we want to maintain funding. The agreement says one seventh of all revenue will go to municipalities. Madam Speaker, we want to maintain that level of funding, but by reducing the PST we'll actually assure cities around the province, rural municipalities around the province, that they have a very stable and strong fiscal partner to deal

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2541 with, because there's no security in a company leaking money like the NDP ran our province in the past 17 years. [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Order. Handi-Transit Services Funding Intention Mr. James Allum (Fort Garry -Riverview): We know that Manitobans rely on their provincial government to be a strong partner when it comes to funding roads and to help pay for transit. The Building Manitoba Fund also paid matching dollars for Handi -Transit.

This funding meant com - munities could keep us with rising costs for Handi - Transit while at the same time providing a strong level of service. Can the minister tell the House today: Will the government continue to pay for 50 per cent of the cost for Handi-Transit? Hon. Brian Pallister (Premier): Well, I've addressed a number of these questions in the past but I don't mind addressing them again. This gives me the opportunity, because the member, in this

preamble, alluded to the need for partnerships with funding agencies, we –and health care, in par ticular, Madam Speaker. Let me cite a recent report that was released in respect of this very topic. It's called Canadian Health Transfers and the Federation: Past, Present, and Future, by the Institute of Fiscal Studies and Democracy. It was just releas ed. Now this is Kevin Page, Madam Speaker, who co -ordinates this study group, a former Canadian Parliamentary Budget Officer, well-respected Canadian.

In his report, he examines the policies of the federal government in respect to its cutbacks on health care and he concludes by saying that the report notes that the inking of the Canada Health Transfer agreements by all provinces, excluding Manitoba, exchanged short -term gain for long -term pay, and they conclude that provincial and territorial governments should have rejected the federal government's recent offer on health funding and held out for a better deal, as Manitoba continues to do. Somebody has to stand up for Manitobans; somebody has to stand up for health care.

We're proud to do it here, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Fort Garry-Riverview, on a supplementary question. Mr. Allum: Well, Madam Speaker, I can't believe that he couldn't hear me when I asked the question, and I can't believe that maybe his earpiece isn't working, because I heard a very long answer. I didn't hear him mention once the term Handi-Transit. So, will the Premier of this province now come clean with the people of Manitoba and will he tell us clearly, transparently, openly: Will the Province of Manitoba continue to fund Handi -Transit at a 50 per cent level? Mr.

Pallister: Madam Speaker, I very much appreciate a question on hearing, because hearing is exactly what we are doing when we listen to the people of Manitoba and when we stand up for them on health care. Also, hearing services are an important part of offering health-care services to the province, so let me say–and I would now take some pride in quoting a member of this House who said the health -care negotiations will shape health care in Manitoba for the next 10 years or even longer. We need a representative in those negotiations who will stand for all Manitoba families. Madam Speaker, the member for St.

Boniface (Mr. Selinger) got his wish because we're going to stand up for Manitoba f amilies while the members opposite sit on their hands. Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Madam Speaker: Order. Order. The honourable member for Fort Garry - Riverview, on a final supplementary. Mr. Allum: Well, Madam Speaker, that's an outrageous abdication of his responsibility in this House to come clean with Manitobans and be crystal clear on those who are among the most vulnerable in our society. So I want to ask the Premier of this province – [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Order. Mr.

Allum: –the individual most responsible for the budget, will the Premier of Manitoba today commit to ensuring that Handi -Transit is funded at a 50 per cent level? Is that yes or is it no? * (14:30) Mr. Pallister: Well, he's talking about one service that relates to vulnerable people, and I appreciate a question about vulnerable people. Vulnerable people

2542 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 in our province depend on health care, Madam Speaker, and it would be an outrageous abdication of our responsi bilities here not to stand up for those vulnerable people, which is precisely what we're doing. [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Pallister: We're standing up for Manitobans and all Canadians who deserve sustainable health -care funding now and in the future.

The abdication is on the part of the member for Fort Garry-Riverview and his colleagues who sit on their hands and do nothing, despite the fact that former colleagues of theirs stood up and said things about the federal proposal while they now are quiet. Here's one: We need to remember that our job here is not to protect our political friends in Ottawa, our job here is to make sure that Manitoba citizens, who rely on health care, get it. An Honourable Member: Who said that? Mr.

Pallister: Stan Struthers said that, former Finance Minister, my –you know, all the people in the NDP who you could count on to stick up for health care seem to be gone, Madam Speaker. Funding to Municipalities and Organizations Government Transparency and Accountability Mr. Wab Kinew (Fort Rouge): The Premier (Mr. Pallister) may be hearing questions, but I don't think he's listening. For this government, it seems like openness and transparency are just words, because their actions tell a whole other story.

This government cut funding for the City of Winnipeg, cut even more funding for other municipalities; they repealed the law guaranteeing affordable util ity rates. And all of this we found out through the fine print of legislation and from the media. Madam Speaker, we know that the Premier wants to cut, so why doesn't he just tell us his plans to cut instead of doing his best to hide his true intentions? Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Madam Speaker: Order. Order. Hon.

Cameron Friesen (Minister of Finance ): Well, I thank the member for that question about listening, and that is exactly what this government did in advance of our budget. And even today we'll have this opportunity. We expect to debate the BITSA bill.

And the budget implementation and tax statutes amendment act shows how this government listened to Manitobans –Manitobans who said it's time to bring alignment to your tax code; Manitobans who said we want to see good investments made; Manitobans who acknowledged, as that party does not acknowledge, the context of all of these discussions, which is a $900- million deficit which they left unaddressed. We do not take that view. We will addres s that challenge and we will do it with our eyes wide open with all Manitobans standing with us.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Fort Rouge, on a supplementary question. Mr. Kinew: The minister says that his government is listening, but nobody– Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Kinew: –but nobody would have voted to close three emergency rooms, nobody would have voted to lay off 900 Hydro employees, nobody would have voted for wage freezes in the province of Manitoba. There is a bigger and bigger difference between what the Premier said he was going to do in the last election and what he is actually doing now that he is in government.

Now, it's one thing for the Premier to make these harmful cuts, but why the stealth? Will the Premier commit to telling organizations and municipalities directly that he is cutting funds, rather than relying on others to do the work for him? Mr. Friesen : Well, Madam Speaker, I thank the member for the question, but let us be clear: whe n it comes to the record of the NDP government, there was no Manitoban who, in consultations that that government said they did, would have advocated for a PST hike in 2013, taking $200 million– $300 million out of their pocket.

I am quite certain that, in their budget preconsultation in 2012, no Manitoban would have said, please remove $200 million of my funds by widening the PST to include haircuts and home insurance policies. Madam Speaker, when it comes to listening, we have demonstrated we will do it. We are demonstrating now that we are listening to Manitobans and we are on this road to recovery. And we are doing it in conjunction with Manitobans,

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2543 bringing the recovery that our province so desperately needs. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Fort Rouge, on a final supplementary. Mr. Kinew: Madam Speaker, the logic of what the Finance Minister just said condemns his own government's actions. Again, this government, you know, ordered a wage freeze, ordered 15 per cent cuts to post - secondary, sl ashed funding to North Point Douglas Women's Centre. All these we find out about through the media, through the Estimates process or deep in legislation. They don't tell us what they are actually planning to do directly. So will the Premier (Mr. Palliste

r) commit to accountability and to announcing his cuts to the people of our province directly? Mr. Friesen: Madam Speaker, where that party was not accountable to Manitobans, we have committed that we will be accountable. I remember a BITSA provision that the NDP brought whereby they artificially extended the period of recovery. When they were busy saying out of one side of their mouth that we had fully recovered, they said we're not yet out of recovery because they did not want to take penalties in pay that would have accrued to them. Instead, they broke the rules. We are keeping the rules.

We are putting provisions in BITSA that will help all Manitobans, and we're proud to have that debate this afternoon, Madam Speaker. Northern Manitoba Communities Need for Sustainable Rail System Mr. Tom Lindsey (Flin Flon): The town of Churchill has been rocked for the past year: port has effectively been shuttered, connection with surrounding communities has been compromised and its access to fresh and healthy food has been undermined. Job losses have hit the community hard. Now the community is being flooded.

Can the minister tell the H ouse exactly what steps the provincial government is taking to help the residents of the town of Churchill? Hon. Blaine Pedersen (Minister of Infrastructure): I thank the member for that question because it brings to light what's happening in Churchill. And–during–over the weekend I reached out to the MLA for Kewatinook, I reached out to Grand Chief Sheila North Wilson, to make sure that they knew that we were aware of what's going on. We have EMO staff right now in Churchill. We have EMO staff today also accompanying OmniTRAX personnel to do a flyover over the rail line today.

The safety of Manitobans is a first priority, and that's what we're–we'll do. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Flin Flon, on a supplementary question. Mr. Lindsey: While we've heard from the Town of Churchill that food has been flown in for them, other communities along the rail line depend on it to get fresh supplies. Can t he government tell us what steps they've taken so far and what steps they will continue to take to make sure that all those communities have access to fresh and affordable food and supplies? Mr.

Pedersen: I want to assure the House that the Red Cross is c o-ordinating with the First Nations. There was some food that was flown into a couple of the First Nations who are requiring it. The Red Cross is also monitoring any medical conditions where –if they need to be evacuated on an emergency basis. And we continue to work–the EMO staff is –had a meeting this morning with the Red Cross and–to make sure that everyone is on the same page, making sure the safety of all Manitobans. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Flin Flon, on a final supplementary. Mr.

Lindsey: It's good to hear, finally, that they've taken some steps in an emergency situation. What we need to hear from this government is, really, what the long -term plans are for the viability of a sustainable rail system that feeds all those communities along the Bay Line and the town of Churchill. We need to hear what the government's long-term plan is for the community of Pukatawagan, whose rail service has been cut off this year–it was cut off last year –long-term and sustainable plans.

And one thing that the people of the town of Churchill might actually appreciate is if the Premier showed up and told them personally what the game plan is and listened to what their concerns are.

2544 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 Mr. Pedersen: Madam Speaker, this is not a time to get political when people's lives are at stake and that food and necessary supplies are at stake in here. * (14:40) EMO will continue to be there for Churchill and for those other communities along there, that the Red Cross is also in there to the First Nations, making sure that everyone is safe. We will be in there for the long term, and we will make sure that the North is looked after, just like every other Manitoban. Election Mandate Government Record Ms.

Judy Klassen (Kewatinook): Much respect to the Minister of Infrastructure (Mr. Pedersen), however, this government still continues to play games with the people of Manitoba. It ran on a campaign of promises, promises which they have yet to put to ink. How can people plan their live s around such worry and stress? Summer is coming, our sessional break is about to start, but there is no break. In fact, the whirl –the real work is about to start. There's no time for an eight-week trip to Costa Rica when there are starving people, when there are people now waiting up to 15 hours in ERs.

This government has still not even reduced the ambulance fees by half. Minister, when is this government going to end the mental anguish people are facing? When are there–when are they going to begin ful filling their promises to Manitobans? Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Health , Seniors and Active Living): Well, Madam Speaker, the member, I think, asked a serious question. I was disappointed that she tried to become political in what should be a serious question for all members of this House.

All of us take the responsibility to ensure that all Manitobans, whether they're in the north or the south or the east or the west, have services that they can rely on. It's been difficult, of course, not havi ng had a government that considered that a priority over the past 17 years. It's been difficult, of course, not having a partner in Ottawa. The member talks about promises and promises made during election campaigns. We've certainly been disappointed to see the current Prime Minister not fulfill his election campaign to have a real partnership when it comes to health care, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Kewatinook, on a supplementary question. Efficiency Manitoba Act Request to Withdraw Ms. Judy Klassen (Kewatinook): From what we've seen in committee, this government closes its ears and digs in its toes when it comes to getting negative feedback. There was no word of creating a new Crown corporation in their election platform. This government is making impoverished people pay for this new Crown corp.

There are many Manitobans who will feel the impact of the 8 per cent hike in Hydro, particularly the three–30,000 people earning minimum wage who did not get an increase this year. I ask again: What is this minister doing to help people cope with the impact this will have on already tight budgets? Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Health , Seniors and Active Living): Well, Madam Speaker, we know that all Manitobans after 17 years of NDP government, 17 years where each and every budget they increased the taxes.

Of course, it got worse as their time in government went along to the point where they increased the PST, the mother of increasing–[interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Goertzen : –of taxes, Madam Speaker, something that hit every Manitoban. It didn't matter where you lived in the province, whether you lived in the north, the south, the eas t or the west, Winnipeg, Brandon, every city. No matter where you lived, every Manitoban had to pay more because of what the former government did–the NDP –in terms of raising taxes.

This was a budget that didn't increase taxes and Manitobans appreciate u s holding the line on taxes, Madam Speaker, something we committed to and continue to do. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Kewatinook, on a final supplementary. Ms. Klassen: Manitoba Hydro's rate increase comes at such an inconvenient time. It ha s a massive debt which has negatively impacted our credit rating. Now, Manitoba Hydro has to pay for the start -up costs for this new Crown corporation. The stance the government is taking is unreasonable; they are

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2545 investing illogically and making the most impoverished pay for their mistakes. Will this minister rescind Bill 19 today? Hon. Ron Schuler (Minister of Crown Services): Well, I'd like to thank the member for that question because this is all about respecting a process, Madam Speaker, and the N DP was wrong not to send the public–to the Public Utilities Board the bipole line. In fact, it was the NDP who forbid the Public Utilities Board from even looking at the bipole line – Bipole III line. And because of that mistake – [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr.

Schuler: –now Manitobans will pay for this mistake that the NDP undertook. The NDP 'piepole '- Keeyask levy is going to cost Manitobans. It is going to hurt Manitobans, but we will trust the process that's in front of the Public Utilities Board. Youth Sports Concussion Protocol Mr. Jon Reyes (St. Norbert): Madam Speaker, in my riding of St. Norbert we are proud to have many community sports teams for children to stay active. However, in sport, accidents sometimes happen and injuries occur, especially head injuries like concussions. If left untreated, concussions could have lasting negative effects.

Unfortunately, I've seen these injuries first -hand as a football official. As a proud member of the Manitoba Football Officials Association for 12 years, I've seen these injuries at the youth level, university level and professional level of the Canadian Football League. This is why I'm very pleased to hear of the new legislation from my colleague, the Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage (Ms. Squires), introduced regarding concussion protocol. Could the mi nister please explain how this legislation will help youth sports safer for all children? Hon.

Rochelle Squires (Minister of Sport, Culture and Heritage): I'd like to thank my colleague from St. Norbert for that question about this ground- breaking, first-of-its-kind legislation in Canada. This bill is about the safety of our children. It is announcing measures to optimize concussion awareness, education, prevention and management of concussions sustained in youth sport in Manitoba.

I'd also like to take a moment to pay homage to a 17-year-old rugby player named Rowan Stringer, who suffered from a fatal concussion on the sports field in Ontario, and I'd like to just take a moment to congratulate the legacy of her, that her family brought about in raising awareness about the dangers of concussion. I'd also like to thank Dr. Michael Ellis, who is in the gallery today, for his support across the country. He's a leading expert in concussion management, and I really appreciate all of his efforts in bringing about this legislation. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Rural Emergency Health Services Need for Doctor Retention Program Mr. Matt Wiebe (Concordia): FIPPA records recently obtained show that more and more rural emergency departments are closing down temporarily due to a lack of doctors. Since February, six EDs have been closed in the Southern Health region, and Prairie Mountain Health only has 13 still open out of nearly 40 communities with health centres. Madam Speaker, these temporary closures will only get worse now that the government has cancelled the rural doctor program.

Will the health –sorry–the Health Minister has cancelled this program and refused to put anything– [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Wiebe: –else in its place for doctor retention in rural communities. Will the Health Minister announce a new incentive for medical students to commit to working in rural Manitoba in time for the new school year to start? Hon. Kelvin Goertzen (Minister of Health , Seniors and Active Living ): Madam Speaker, I don't know if the member just realized that Manitoba extends beyond the Perimeter.

But had he looked beyond the Perimeter for the last 17 years, he would have known that rural ERs had been closing for more than a decade under the NDP government. They were closing because there weren't enough doctors. Now, I never heard him, as a member of the government, ever raise this as an issue. I never saw

2546 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 him bring forward a resolution. I never saw him bring one issue to this Legislature that talked about rural ERs. Suddenly, he's a great advocate for ERs. I'm glad that he's finally got on board, but he's 17 years too late. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Concordia, on a supplementary question. Mr. Wiebe: I'm surprised to hear the minister say that. We just spent a few hours together in Estimates talking just about rural health, and I'd be happy to have that discussion continue.

Prior to these February temporary closures, many regions had experienced intermittent service suspensions which lasted more than 24 hours. In some regions, those days were in the hundreds. The Beausejour Health Centre, for instance, was suspended for more than 137 non- consecutive days; the Elizabeth Crowe memorial hospital, 203; Pinawa Hospital, 87; Roblin health centre, 69; Ste. Rose General Hospital, 135. The list goes on, Madam Speaker.

These suspensions represent months of rural families being without access to emergency care and are being forced to drive another hour or three hours to get the help that they need– Madam Speaker: The member's time has expired. Mr. Goertzen: Madam Speaker, I can see why the member for St. Boniface (Mr. Selinger) was hanging his head in shame as his colleague read that question, because th ere was all the different ERs that that government shut down over the previous seven year– 17 years. Now he stands up and shames his own former premier.

Now, I know there's dissension in the ranks, and they don't like to talk to each other over there, but he stood up and he led a–read a list of shame of the former NDP government, all the ERs that they shut down. I'm glad that he's finally on our side. He finally understands what a terrible job the NDP did in rural health care. I'm happy to speak with him for three hours, five hours, 10 hours. Let's keep talking what a terrible job the NDP did, Madam Speaker. * (14:50) Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Concordia, on a final supplementary. Government Intention Mr.

Wiebe: Madam Speaker, all bluster and not a single answer for the people in rural Manitoba. It's shameful. Shame on them, Speaker. Total closure of these three–of the three– Some Honourable Members: Oh, oh. Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Wiebe: –emergency departments and the urgent-care centre in Winnipeg is, clearly, only the beginning for this government. When the Health Minister and the WRHA announced the ER overhaul, the chief medical officer, Brock Wright, said, quote: We are just talking about Winnipeg today. There's probably similar opportunities across the province.

Manitoba families in rural communities deserve to know if this government plans to close more ERs permanently. Is the Health Minister planning to do the same upheaval in rural Manitoba's health care as he did in the WRHA? Mr. Goertzen : Madam Speaker, the issue here is that Manitobans have waited for hundreds of thousands of hours collectively in emergency rooms for service. There hasn't been a plan that the NDP actually wanted to institute to improve that. They haven't said anything when it comes to the reduction of funding from the federal government. Now, all of a sudden, this member has found his voice.

He talks about Dr. Brock Wright and the announcement, but what he doesn't mention is at that announcement, Dr. Brock Wright said clearly –he said clearly–ask those critics who don't like this plan why they don't have any other alternative. I would say to that critic who has stood up and said in this –in the last year, that he's got all sorts of ideas, but said nothing for the previous 17 years. He doesn't have any other ideas. We're going to fix it because they broke it, Madam Speaker. Federal Climate Accord Provincial Response Mr.

Rob Altemeyer (Wolseley): I'm wondering if the Minister for Sustainable Development might be able to listen to a quote that I will read out into the House and tell us, (1) what's wrong with the quote, and (2) maybe take a guess on who said it.

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2547 So here's the quote: We have not mad e provisions in this budget year for any revenue on carbon pricing. What's the problem with that, and who said it? Hon. Cathy Cox (Minister of Sustainable Development): Thanks to the member opposite. You know, I'm not going to take any suggestions from the member opposite or, you know, comment to answer– respond to his question, you know, with regard to that. Anyways, we are developing a made - in-Manitoba climate and green plan, one that's good for Manitoba, one that's driven by Manitobans.

We're going to listen to Manitobans throughout this process and ensure that we get it right, unlike the members opposite who failed miserably to reduce any emissions. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Wolseley, on a supplementary question. Mr. Altemeyer: The q uote that I just read out actually came from her colleague, the Minister of Finance (Mr. Friesen), who was answering a question that I asked in Estimates. And the problem with it, which the minister should have realized, is that the federal climate -change accord begins in January of 2018.

If they have not booked any money for this budget year for January, February or March, they are in contravention of the federal plan. Will the minister please clarify what her intentions are around reducing climate emissions and following the climate accord with the feds this year? Mrs. Cox : We've had over 7,000 responses to our climate survey and we've actually extended it so that we gave more Manitobans the opportunity to participate in that.

We believe in inclusivel ess–inclusiveness and listening to Manitobans, and that's how we're moving forward with our climate and green plan, not like the members opposite who imposed a 1 per cent PST increase without listening to Manitobans. We're going to get it right, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker: The honourable member for Wolseley, on a final supplementary. Mr. Altemeyer: I will point out that this is the same minister whose government has twice promised action on climate change in their throne speeches, and two times in a r ow in the budget speech they haven't even mentioned the term. And now we know why.

Because in response to another question I asked in Estimates, the same Finance Minister gave us this gem, quote: Manitoba is forecast to grow from the current 21 megatons of greenhouse gases to 23 megatons in the year 2030. She's going in the wrong direction, Madam Speaker. Will she please stand up and acknowledge she either doesn't know what the Finance Minister is talking about, or her government is going in the opposite direction of what this world needs today? Hon. Brian Pallister (Premier): The member knows the wrong direction, Madam Speaker; he and his colleagues took it for 17 years.

The fact is we care about sustainability, whether it's fiscal management or environmental – [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order. Mr. Pallister: –management. And so, I appreciate, though, the member's consistency. He and his colleagues always are most interested in one thing, Madam Speaker, and that's raising taxes. And so, natur ally, his first concern wouldn't be the environment at all, but the booking of revenue. That's what he–that's what his question is centred on.

This coming from a colleague of a former government where spending addictions were demonstrated year in and year out, where tax hikes were made without consultation or forethought again and again and again. And that onerous burden is one that Manitobans have had to bear. Madam Speaker, that's why we ran on a commitment, after a decade of expanding debt and taxes, to fix the finances of this province. And we're going to clean up the environment, too. Madam Speaker: The time for oral questions has expired. Speaker's Statement Madam Speaker: I have a statement for the House.

As the House is expect ed to adjourn later this week for the summer and also as significant renovations will begin here in our Chamber very soon, I would encourage all honourable members to prepare for this by removing the contents of their desks sometime this week. I would further encourage members to recycle as much of the material as possible. The blue bins here

2548 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 in the Chamber are designated for recycling of Hansard only. Any other material you would like to recycle may be placed in the larger recycling containers in the me ssage rooms located just outside the Chamber. Thank you for your attention to this detail. PETITIONS Neighbourhoods Alive! Funding Mr. Andrew Swan (Minto): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. The background to this petition is as follows:

(1) Since 2001, the Neighbourhoods Alive! program has supported stronger neighbourhoods and communities in Manitoba.

(2) Neighbourhoods Alive! uses a commu - nity-led development model that partners with neighbourhood renewal corporations on projects that aim to revitalize communities.

(3) Neighbourhoods Alive! and the neighbour - hood renewal corporations it supports have played a vital and important role in revitalizing many neighbourhoods in Manitoba through commu - nity-driven solutions, including employment and training, education and recreation, safety and crime prevention, and housing and physical improvements.

(4) Neigh bourhoods Alive! now serves 13 neighbourhood renewal corporations across Manitoba whi ch have developed expertise in engaging with their local residents and determining the priorities of their communities.

(5) The provincial government's previous investments into Neighbourhoods Alive! have been bolstered by community and corporate donations as well as essential support from community volunteers, small businesses and local agencies.

(6) Late in 2016, the minister responsible for the Neighbourhoods Alive! program said new funding for initiatives was paused and that the future of the Neighbourhoods Alive! program was being reviewed, bringing hundreds of community projects to a standstill.

(7) Neighbourhood renewal corporations and their communities are concerned this funding freeze is the first step in a slow phase -out of the Neighbourhoods Alive! grant program, which would have severe negative impacts on families and communities.

We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: That the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba be urged to support the Neighbourhoods Alive! program and the communities served by neighbourhood renewal corporations by continuing to provide consistent core funding for existing neighbourhood renewal corporations and enhancing the public funding available for specific initiatives. Madam Speaker, this petition is signed by many, many Manitobans. Thank you. Madam Speaker: In accordance with our rule 133(6), when petitions are read they are deemed to be received by the House. Taxi Industry Regulation Mr.

Ted Marcelino (Tyndall Park): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. The background to this petition is as follows: The taxi industry in Winnipeg provides an important service to all Manitobans.

(2) The taxi industry is regulated to ensure there are both the provision of taxi service and a fair and affordable fare structure. * (15:00)

(3) Regulations have been put in place that has made Winnipeg a leader in protecting the safety of taxi drivers through the installation of shields and cameras.

(4) The regulated taxi system also has significant measures in place to protect passengers, including a stringent complaint system.

(5) The provincial government has moved to bring in legislation through Bill 30 that will transfer jurisdiction to the City of Winnipeg in order to bring in so-called ride-sharing services like Uber.

(6) There were no consultations with the taxi industry prior to the introduction of this bill.

(7) The introduction of this bill jeopardizes safety, taxi service, and also pu ts consumers at risk, as well as the livelihood of hundreds of Manitobans, many of whom have invested their life savings into the industry.

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(8) The proposed legislation also puts the regulated framework at risk and could lead to issues such as what has b een seen in other jurisdictions, including differential pricing, not providing service to some areas of the city, and significant risks in terms of taxi driver and passenger safety. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge t he provincial government to withdraw its plans to deregulate the taxi industry, including withdrawing Bill 30. This petition was signed by many, many Manitobans. Northern Patient Transfer Program Mr.

Tom Lindsey (Flin Flon): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. The background for this petition is as follows:

(1) Manitobans recognize that everyone deserves quality accessible health care.

(2) The people of northern Manitoba face unique challenges when accessing heal th care, including inclement weather, remote communities and seasonal roads.

(3) The province –excuse me, the provincial government has already unwisely cancelled northern health investments, including clinics in The Pas and Thompson.

(4) Furthermore, the provincial government has taken a course that will discourage doctors from practicing in the North, namely their decision to cut a grant program designed to bring more doctors into rural Manitoba.

(5) Provincial government has also substantially cut inv estments in roads and highways, which will make it more difficult for northerners to access health care.

(6) The provincial government's austerity approach is now threatening to cut funding for designated–excuse me, is now threatening to cut funding for e ssential programs such as Northern Patient Transfer Program, which was designed to help some of the most vulnerable people in the province.

(7) The provincial government has recently announced it would cancel the airfare subsidy for patient's escorts to f ly to Winnipeg for medical treatment, which will be devastating for patients with mobility issues, dementia, who are elderly and need assistance getting to the city.

(8) The challenges that northerners face will only be overcome if the provincial governme nt respects, improves and adequately funds quality programs that were designed to help northerners, such as the Northern Patient Transfer Program.

We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge the provincial government to recognize the absolute necessity of maintaining and improving the Northern Patient Transfer Program by continuing to respect Northern Patient Transfer agreements and funding these services in accordance with the needs of northern Manitobans. [interjection] Madam Speaker: Order, please. Ms. Amanda Lathlin (The Pas): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. The background to this petition is as follows: Manitobans recognize that everyone deserves quality accessible health care.

The people of northern Manitoba face unique challenges when accessing health care, including inclement weather, remote communities and seasonal roads. The provincial government has already unwisely cancelled nor thern health investments, including clinics in The Pas and Thompson. Furthermore, the provincial government has taken a course that will discourage doctors from practicing in the North, namely their decision to cut a grant program designed to bring more doctors to rural Manitoba.

(5) The provincial government has also substantially cut investments in roads and highways, which will make it more difficult for northerners to access health care.

(6) The provincial government's austerity approach is not threatening to cut funding for central programs such as the Northern Patient Transportation Program, which was designed to help some of the most vulnerable people in the province.

(7) The provincial government has already announced it would cancel the air force –airfare subsidy for patient escorts who fly to Winnipeg for medical treatment, which will be devastating for

2550 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 patients with mobility issues, dementia or who are elderly and need assistance getting to the city.

(8) The challenges that northerners face will only be overcome if the provincial government respects and proves and adequately funds quality programs that were designed to help northerners such as the Northern Patient Transportation Program. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge the provincial government to recognize the absolute necessity of maintaining and improving the Northern Patient Transportation Program by continuing to respect Northern Patient Transfer agreements and funding these services in accordance with the needs for–of northern Manitobans.

This petition has been signed by many, many Manitobans. Thank you. Taxi Industry Regulation Ms. Flor Marcelino (Leader of the Official Opposition): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba. The background to this petition is as follows:

(1) The taxi industry in Winnipeg provides an important service to all Manitobans.

(2) The taxi industry in–the taxi in dustry is regulated to ensure that there are both the provision of taxi service and a fair and affordable fare structure.

(3) Regulations have been put in place that has made Winnipeg a leader in protecting the safety of taxi drivers through the installa tion of shields and cameras.

(4) The regulated taxi system also has significant measures in place to protect passengers, including a stringent complaint system.

(5) The provincial government has moved to bring in legislation through Bill 30 that will t ransfer jurisdiction to the City of Winnipeg in order to bring in so-called ride-sharing services like Uber.

(6) There were no consultations with the taxi industry prior to the introduction of this bill.

(7) The introduction of this bill jeopardizes safety, taxi service and also puts consumers at risk, as well as the livelihood of hundreds of Manitobans, many of whom have invested their life savings into the industry.

(8) The proposed legislation also puts the regulated framework at risk and could lea d to issues such as what has been seen in other jurisdictions, including differential pricing, not providing service to some areas of the city and significant risks in terms of taxi driver and passenger safety. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge the provincial government to withdraw its plans to deregulate the taxi industry, including withdrawing Bill 30. Signed by many, many Manitobans. Thank you. Mr. Mohinder Saran (The Maples): Madam Speaker, I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba. The background to this petition is as follows:

(1) The taxi industry in Winnipeg provides an important service to all Manitobans.

(2) The taxi industry is regulated to ensure there are both the provision of taxi service and a fair and affordable fare structure.

(3) Regulations have been put in place that has made Winnipeg a leader in protecting the safety of taxi drivers through the installation of shields and cameras.

(4) The regulated taxi system also has significant measures in place to protect passengers, including a stringent complaint system. * (15:10)

(5) The provincial government has moved to bring in legislation through Bill 30 that will transfer jurisdiction to the City of Winnipeg in order to bring in so-called ride-sharing services like Uber.

(6) There were no consultations with the taxi industry prior to the introduction of this bill.

(7) The introduction of this bill jeopardizes safety, taxi service and also puts consumers at risk, as well as the livelihood of hundreds of Manitobans, many of whom have invested their life savings into the industry.

(8) The proposed legislation also puts the regulated framework at risk and could lead to issues

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2551 such as what has been seen in other jurisdictions, including differential pricing, not providing service to some areas of the city and significant risks in terms of taxi driver and passenger safety. We petition the Legisla tive Assembly by Manitoba–we petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge the provincial government to withdraw its plans to deregulate the taxi industry, including withdrawing Bill 30. Signed by many Manitobans. Mr. Jim Maloway (Elmwood): I wish to present the following petition to the Legislative Assembly. The background to this petition is as follows:

(1) The taxi industry in Winnipeg provides an important service to all Manitobans.

(2) The taxi industry is regulated to ensure there are both the provision of taxi service and a fair and affordable fare structure.

(3) Regulations have been put in place that has made Winnipeg a leader in protecting the safety of drivers through the installation of shields and cameras.

(4) The regulated taxi system also has significant measures in place to protect passengers, including a stringent complaint system.

(5) The provincial government has moved to bring in legislation through Bill 30 that will transfer jurisdiction to the City of Winnipeg in order to bring in so-called ride-sharing services like Uber.

(6) There were no consultations with the taxi industry prior to the introduction of this bill.

(7) The introduction of this bill jeopardizes safety, taxi service and also puts consumers at risk, as well as the livelihoods of hundreds of Manitobans, many of whom have invested their life savings into the industry.

(8) The proposed legislation also puts the regulated framework at risk that could lead to issues such as what has be en seen in other jurisdictions, including differential pricing, not providing service in some areas of the city and significant risks in terms of driver–or, taxi driver and passenger safety. We petition the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba as follows: To urge the provincial government to withdraw its plans to deregulate the taxi industry, including withdrawing Bill 30. And this petition is signed by many Manitobans. Madam Speaker: Grievances? ORDERS OF THE DAY Hon.

Andrew Micklefield (Government Hou se Leader): This afternoon we wish to call for second reading Bill 36, The Budget Implementation and Tax Statutes Amendment Act, 2017. Madam Speaker: It has been announced that the House will consider second reading of Bill 36 this afternoon. SECOND READINGS Bill 36–The Budget Implementation and Tax Statutes Amendment Act, 2017 Madam Speaker: So I will call Bill 36, The Budget Implementation and Tax Statutes Amendment Act, 2017. Hon. Cameron Friesen (Minister of Finance ): Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the Minister of Agriculture (Mr.

Eichler), that Bill 36, the budget implementation and tax statues amendment act, 2017; loi d'exécution du budget de 2017 en modifiant diverses dispositions législatives en matière de fiscalité, be now read a second time and be referred to a committee of this House. Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor has been advised of the bill, and I table the message.

Madam Speaker: It has been moved by the honourable Minister of Finance, seconded by the honourable Minister of Agriculture, that Bill 36, The Budget Implementation and Tax Statutes Amendment Act, 2017, be now read a second time and be referred to a committee of this House. Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor has been advised of the bill, and the message has been tabled. Mr. Friesen : Madam Speaker, I have the pleasure today to introduce the budget implementation, tax statutes and amendment act for second reading, and, of course, as people know, we refer to that bill around here as BITSA .

But the bill itself is that bill, an omnibus -type of bill that implements tax, financial and other measures. This year, these are based on our on- going review of the provincial tax system, our prebudget community consultations with stakeholders, and 'inpat' –put from Manitobans and

2552 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 civil servants. It will help to put Manitoba on the road to recovery to become the most improved province in Canada. BITSA includes both housekeeping measures and also measures that help reduce red tape, assist with tax enforc ement and crack down on things like illegal tobacco smuggling, as well as provide the government with the flexibility to bring further tax changes in the future in a timely manner to provide tax relief. This BITSA bill reduces wasteful spending, tax expenditures and contingent liabilities.

The bill eliminates ineffective tax credits while extending or entrenching others that were deemed to have value in growing or building our economy. And, in addition to the major Budget 2017 measures, it also implements technical tax changes that respond to decisions by the court, tax appeals commissioner and issues or errors discovered by Manitoba's own tax division, legal services, Legislative Counsel or the Canada Revenue Agency.

Madam Speaker, in this Budget Implementation and Tax Statutes Amendment Act, we are taking steps in our second budget to continue the critical work that we began last year in fixing the finances, repairing the services of Manitoba and rebuilding the economy. We're building a province that will provide our children with a compelling reason to stay here, while offering hope and opportunity that inspire others to journey here, invest here and to make Manitoba their home. As we have said, we have listened to Manitobans with the most robust preconsultative exercise ever of its type in Manitoba.

We have over 14,000 logged unique interactions with Manitobans in the form of in-person meetings, stakeholder meetings, letters to the Finance Minister's office, letters to other ministers' offices, an online build-your-own budget portal, a portal for civil servants to be able to provide input into this process, and it's the basis of that advice on which we're making these decisions. We worked–we reached out to front -line workers, Manitoba families, small business and employers for their input on the future direction of our province.

Madam Speaker, a few things that we're doing in this BITSA bill: We are, of course, reducing red tape. We are keeping taxes low. For example, I should mention that this Bill 36 is reducing the filing burden for insurance corporations who used to have to file on a quarterly basis. Now we bring a change that moves to a one -time filing per year. It reduces the paperwork burden for both business and the government of Manitoba. We als o are eliminating corporate capital tax early instalment, and instead it will be filed with their annual return.

These are common -sense changes that reduce busy work and help business and government employees both focus on more substantive work. We know t hat this bill repeals the affordability utility rate accountability act, which simply wasted taxpayer dollars. It produced a report that cost $7,000 every year. Virtually no one read the report. It wasted paper. It was also an expenditure that we just–we did not need.

Not only will it form part of our overall commitment to reduce the overall agencies, boards and commissions in this province, but we understand that the department itself can provide the same detail as what was being contracted previously for $7,000 a year, so I will trust our civil servants to provide that detail of work that we require, and we'll take the savings on behalf of all Manitobans. Other things: With the Minister of Agriculture (Mr.

Eichler) seconding this bill this afternoon at the second reading stage, I note that, instead of burdening kennels with licence fees, driving up the cost for pet owners, we're modernizing our regulatory system and providing education and training for companion-animal kennels, breeders and pet retailers , similar to the way that every other province proceeds on this issue. In so many respects, it's like Manitoba has been dragging their feet after 17 years of NDP doing things the same old failing ways.

And so this small change –albeit small from our perspec tive, for those people in industry, those pet owners and others, it is a significant change that simply adopts best practice as seen elsewhere. * (15:20) Furthermore, Madam Speaker, we're fixing the finances by protecting benefits for Manitobans. We are maintaining tax credits that have been eliminated in 2017 by the federal government.

Notice how the NDP never want to talk about the fact that, in this budget, we have protected the youth fitness tax credit, we have protected the children's arts tax credit, we have protected the cultural activities tax credit, and we have protected the Manitoba education amount which delivers a significant tax relief for post -secondary students in the province of Manitoba, even at the same time as the federal Liberals have axed that tax credit.

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2553 Madam Speaker, in Manitoba, that means that any student post -secondary enrolled in full -time classes is eligible for a $400 -per-month credit that we have protected for the number of months that they are enrolled. Any part -time stude nt in post - secondary is protected with $120- per-month credit that we have protected.

Those are real savings for real students in school facing those burdens, and I know, beyond that, the Education Minister will be happy to take questions this afternoon and talk about the changes we're bringing to increase the amount of dollars actually available for students, almost quadrupling the amount of dollars –more than $20 million each year to students in need in school. We take the view that that is more effective than the former system of providing tax credits years after a school experience.

As a matter of fact, what the NDP would not want you to know is that graduates of post -secondary institutions previously had up to 10 years to begin claiming a credit, and then they had 20 years more in which they could claim a partial credit. The student didn't even have to go to university in Manitoba. So, in essence, we could be subsidizing students who went to Dalhousie University. There was no evidence ever collected by the NDP that it had any effect in actually attracting or retaining students –or, I should say, graduates in the province of Manitoba.

But that's okay, because the NDP never took an approach based on evidence before, so why should they have started with this particular tax credit. Mr. Doyle Piwniuk, Deputy Speaker, in the Chair Madam Speaker –Mr. Deputy Speaker –I look around and I see the Deputy Speaker in the Chair – Mr. Deputy Speaker, we take an approach that says we need to fix this. We need to bring coher ence to our tax system. Other provinces are doing it; other jurisdictions are doing it. We need that same commitment to best practice here. What the NDP did was simply glom on credit after credit. Madam –Mr.

Deputy Speaker, I suggest in this place this afternoon the same way I have with the media and with Manitobans and in other contexts that we have an overly robust tax -credit system in this province. What we have is over 30 tax credits amounting to over $600 million of revenue forgone by government. I would suggest very strongly that the existence of an overly expansive tax -credit system in Manitoba is evidence of a high tax approach taken by the NDP.

Because for every tax increase–and we know the kind of tax increases they–the NDP brought to Manitobans y ear after year after year, well, then, the system became more and more artificial. Groups would come back and say this has affected me negatively, and the NDP would say, well, quick, let's find a way to return $20 of income to them at a tax credit time; or maybe $30 or $40. But, at the same time, what they would not do is acknowledge the very, very significant tax burden that they were placing on the back of those income earners. That's why this BITSA, you will notice, does not increase taxes.

As the mem ber for Steinbach (Mr. Goertzen), the Minister of Health, said earlier this afternoon: it's a budget that is devoid of tax increases. And why –how long has it been in this Chamber when a sitting government was able to make that claim in a spring session hav ing brought a budget? Manitobans should not lose sight of the fact that there were many ways –there are, of course, those who will say that on this road to balance we're moving too quickly. There are some who will say we're not moving quickly enough.

And, t o those we would say, oh, there are all kinds of ways that the NDP used to move more quickly, but they didn't do it in terms of expenditure management; they did it on revenue generation. As a matter of fact, Mr. Gord Mackintosh, the author of that book j ust now released, I think it's called tales from the crypt –or is –oh, or it might be called Stories Best Left Untold, and he mentions the fact, for all the disagreement of the NDP caucus, I noticed there still is that one area of fundamental agreement.

It d idn't matter if they were the rebels who brought the rebellion against the –that sitting government two years –three years ago. It didn't matter if they were on the outside looking in. It didn't matter if they were new members who recently came to the Legislature. There is one issue on which NDPs are actually united in this province. It's one fundamental issue, and that is that every challenge to government can be addressed through one simple strategy: increase taxes. And even Mr.

Mackintosh said in his book, while he quarrelled with the premier's approach in respect of raising the 8 per cent, it wasn't because Mr. Mackintosh was so committed to standing up to Manitobans who were already paying too much tax. No. He said what he favoured was the shotgun approach, and the shotgun approach was, I guess, to load the muzzle with a shotgun shell and fire directly at Manitobans but in such a way that you get that scattershot–and I remember that scattershot approach

2554 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 because I remember after, in 2012, when the NDP government brought an approach that widened the retail sales tax, I wondered why it was that members in my constituency were not taking exception to the PST being applied on home insurance policies, and now–and then I understood months later why it was. They only took note when the PST came actually on their property tax bills.

Then they were furious, but at that point in time the NDP thought they had really–they had avoided the anger of Manitobans because they were out of session by that time –they thought they fooled them. They thought they fooled them once on the retail sales tax; they thought they fooled them twice when they raised the PST but, of course, we know that Manitobans were not fooled and we understand that the full degree of their angst and ire was felt by the NDP in the 2016 election. Mr. Deputy Speaker, there are many ways in which we're rebuilding our economy.

Just briefly, the interactive digital tax –media tax credit is extended by three years in Bill 36. We're giving the industry and those c ompanies interested in relocating to Manitoba greater certainty in trying to grow this thriving industry. We have extended the Mineral Exploration Tax Credit for three years. We want –we know that mining will be key to the future of Manitoba's North and the prosperity of our northern residents and communities. We've extended the Book Publishing Tax Credit. The manufacturers' tax credit is renewed until 2020.

We're maintained the R & D tax credit, the Research and Development Tax Credit, and bringing them in line with other provinces and other jurisdictions. We have recognized that the Manitoba Film and Video Production Tax Credit has built a thriving and growing industry in Manitoba here. I would take this opportunity to once again say it was the –it was a P C government that built this commitment in Manitoba to helping that industry grow and we understand that we've got one of the best credits in Canada and it's resulting in jobs right here. Mr.

Deputy Speaker, we know that, like I said, in many cases, a review of tax credits, which we have underwent, show that we were not meeting objectives with some of these tax credits, and that is why with a number of tax credits they've been done away with. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we did an analysis of tax credits and fou nd out there were tax credits on the book for years in this province that had absolutely no application. There was not a single citizen, group or business applying into these categories.

The government didn't even review their own tax provisions enough to know that there was no or virtually no subscription in these programs. Some of these credits include the co -op development tax credit, the Neighbourhoods Alive! Tax Credit, the Data Processing Investment Tax Credit, the Odour Control Tax Credit, the Nut rient Management Tax Credit, the riparian property –the Riparian Tax Credit. All of these were eliminated because they simply didn't meet an objective or they had little or no uptake.

In some cases, we will reprofile the theme or the idea behind this, bring it back in a substantive way that actually makes sense and helps to meet a target. * (15:30) Mr. Deputy Speaker, we know that when it comes to other changes in this act, which we will welcome it for debate this afternoon, we are investing $1.7 billion this year in infrastructure, the second most significant investment in infrastructure ever in the history of Manitoba. We are establishing the Manitoba strategic municipal investment fund.

We know that we have listened to municipalities; they wanted us to focus on a single -window application process. They wanted us to create a single–a one -basket funding model because, until now, they've been running back and forth. Sometimes a single application could have meant interfacing with three or four or five separ ate departments. We've made it easier for them to navigate.

We have kept the investment levels there, and we know that municipalities have responded and said that, given the context that this Province is in, they are very pleased with the level and manner of support in which this government has continued to fund municipalities. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we know that we have to lead by example, and that is why this Bill 36 goes a step further. It outlines a two- year reduction of the Legislative Assembly members' special allowance.

You'll understand, as well, that nothing in this change curtails the ability of a member to correspond with their constituents, with these –I think we call them–we nickname them, like, Ten Percenters –I think that's the word that the fede ral government gives for their members to correspond with their constituents. Nothing prevents that member from using that. But this is a separate allowance, a per-member amount that was given to each of the caucuses. We believe, in this case, this is a way for

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2555 us all to lead by example. We know that when the government chose to not take the COLA increase – the cost -of-living adjustment increase –we know at that time that the members of the NDP caucus and the members of the Liberal government –caucus stood with us. Today is their next chance for them to stand with us and say we can lead by example; we can demonstrate with our own actions that we are leading the charge on reducing the cost of government.

And I can hear right now the member for the Louise Bridge crowing on that side, and I can only think that that member is– Mr. Deputy Speaker: Order. Order. I just want to remind the minister just to use the person's constituency name, not nicknames or their personal names. Mr. Friesen : I apologize, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It's the member for Elmwood, who I could hear crowing. I think what he was doing was signalling to me his unqualified support for this measure, and he cannot wait for the opportunity. I note that today is the last day f or one of our pages. Mr. Nathan Dueck is here.

I believe he's a Westgate student. And I believe that the member for Elmwood might be indicating that he can't wait for this vote to come to the Legislature. And maybe today is a day when that young page coul d call this vote and have every one of those members rise in support of these measures, and I would only –I'd be delighted to have that take place today. It comes down to this, though, also beyond that. We have to be clear that partisan advertising should be undertaken by partisan groups.

And, when it comes to the NDP party, if they want to put out overtly partisan communications to people, nothing prevents them from doing that, but they have to do it on their own dime. And now I notice the member for El mwood getting a little bit louder again, and I understand why: because they don't actually want to have partisan cost centres to provide for partisan mailers. What they would like to do is skirt the rules in order to use taxpayer dollars for these things. How do we know that? We know it because, in the past, they did it.

They took a million -dollar vote subsidy that this party on principle refused to take. We stood on principle; we went back to our members; we said that is money that we will forgo. The NDP w as effectively $1 million ahead of other parties in the lead-up to the last election, and even that didn't help them. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we did away with the vote subsidy. We did away with that vote subsidy and we will stand up for Manitobans. This is a bout hard work and it's about saying that, if we want to do those activities, we have to undertake the hard work to communicate our message to Manitobans.

If they wish to support us, then they support us. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we have cracked down on tobacco smuggling and tax evasion in this budget. We have brought substantial investments to front - line services in this budget, and through Bill 36 that is also reflected. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we take –we're taking steady, measured steps that are necessary to move Manitoba towards recovery, toward balance, toward prosperity, toward economic growth. After a decade of debt, we're fixing the finances. After a decade of decay, we're repairing the services. After a decade of decline, we're rebuilding the economy.

And budget 30–Budget 2017 and Bill 36 lays the foundation for Manitobans to achieve that goal, not just for today, but for future generations as well. Mr. Deputy Speaker: The opposition– Questions Mr. Deputy Speaker: A question period up to 15 minutes will be held. Questions may be addressed to the minister of any –by any of the members of the following sequence: first question by the official opposition critic or designate; subsequent questions asked by each independent member; remaining questions asked by a ny opposition members, and no question or answer shall exceed 35 seconds – 45 seconds. Mr.

Jim Maloway (Elmwood): I'd like to ask the minister whether the Province consulted with the City of Winnipeg prior to bringing in changes to the 50-50 transit funding agreement. Hon. Eileen Clarke (Minister of Indigenous and Municipal Relations): I thank the member opposite for the question. I think he would understand by now that our consultations with the City of Winnipeg as well as the municipalities have been extensive in the past year, something that did not happen previous to this. I remember going through some situations with the

2556 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 29, 2017 previous government where there absolutely was no consultations on anything. The mayor of Winnipeg stood with other mayors from across the province as well as the Association of Manitoba Municipalities in consultations–the most robust consultations in history. Mr. Maloway: I'd like to know –ask the minister: How will the cuts to transit funding impact service delivery, safety and affordability for Winnipeg Transit? Hon.

Cameron Friesen (Minister of Finance): The member should understand that the investment that this government continues to make, in terms of funding for municipalities, is very, very significant. A great deal of my conversation with the member for Fort Garry-Riverview (Mr. Allum) the other day in Estimates was exactly centred on that Indigenous and Municipal Relations page of the Estimates of Expenditure, which shows one of the most robust and extensive investments in municipal funding ever in the province of Manitoba. Ms. Judy Klassen (Kewatinook): Due to

section 23, we'll be able to put more money back into people who politically contribute but has the audacity to eliminate the tax credit for Neighbour - hoods Alive! Why not show the same support on tax forms? If people knew that they could receive a tax credit for those types of donations, there would be more uptake. Why not promote the tax credits for organizations like Neighbourhoods Alive! instead of eliminating them? Mr. Friesen : I thank the member for the question, but she is– Mr. Deputy Speaker: The honourable member from Finance–Minister of Finance. Can you hear me, everyone?

We're going to pause for a minute here. Okay, we're going to have to redo this question again. Can–the honourable member from Kewatinook. Ms. Klassen: With the BITSA, due to

section 23, there will be more money put back into people who politically contribute, and then there in

section 38, I believe, we take–the government has the audacity to eliminate the tax credit for Neighbourhoods Alive! Why not show the same support on the tax forms? If people knew they could receive a tax credit for those types of donations, there would be more uptake. Why not promote the tax credits for organizations like Neighbourhoods Alive!? * (15:40) Mr. Friesen: The member is mistaken. She actually refers to

section 38. The Neighbourhoods Alive! tax credit has never had an applicant to that tax credit. But, also, the member should understand it's not a tax credit that is for individuals; it was a tax credit that was set out for corporations and companies, so t here is absolutely no application who has ever applied for the tax credit, so she's asking to preserve that on the political contribution tax credit

section 23. The member should know that the changes that we're bringing bring our tax credit in line with other jurisdictions like Ontario and Alberta. Mr. Maloway: I'd like to ask the minister: Did the province consult with the City of Winnipeg prior to repealing the legislation which directs 1 percentage point of the PST into the Building Manitoba Fund? Mr. Friesen: So, as the member knows, what we have done is we have embarked on a new strategic municipal investment fund that we have set up. It's – the focus is this new single -window basket funding and a fair say on how their–those funds are spent. The

section 88 of the Bill 36 simply delinks the legislative requirement of the Building Manitoba Fund and references now this new fund, which is the strategic municipal investment fund. Hon. Jon Gerrard (River Heights): Mr. Speaker, to the minister: Why does this government feel that companion-animal breeders, pet stores and kennels no longer need licensing? With the removal of licensing, does that mean that anyone could open a kennel-breeding facility or pet store witho ut requirements, and how will animal -welfare investigators be able to reprimand the facilities for abuse without a licence to revoke?

And are the positions of companion animal - welfare veterinarian, animal-welfare investigator and animal-welfare program l icensing co -ordinator also being terminated? Mr. Friesen : And I thank the member for the question. I want to allay his fears. What I would want him to understand is that every other province uses the same approach that we would move to under this measure. It is

section 81 in the Bill 36. It simply eliminates the licensing requirement, and it goes towards a voluntary training certificate program for facility operators and owners. The process would

May 29, 2017 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2557 educate any companion -animal facility owner - operator on their obl

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