Proceedings of the House of Assembl 7r During the Third Session of the Thirty-First General Assembly of Newfoundland 1959 Speaker: Hon. J. R. Courage Volume I

Proceedings of the House of Assembly During the Third Session of the Thirty-First General Assembly of Newfoundland Monday, February 2~l, 1959 The house met at three o'clock. !\fr. Speaker in the Chair. Sergeant-at-Arms: Mr. Speaker, the Hon­ ourable the Lieutenant-Governor has ar~ rived. Mr. Speaker: Admit His Honour the Lieu tenant-Governor. His Honour the Lieutenant-Governor took the Chair. SPEECH FROM THE THRONE. His Honour then read the following Speech from the Throne. MR.

SPEAKER AND MEMBERS OF THE HONOURABLE HOUSE OF ASSEM­ BLY: Since you last assembled, my l\finisters have been informed that it is Her l\lajesty's inten­ tion to visit Her Subjects in this ancient and loyal part of the Commonwealth during the month of June in the present year. On this visit Her !\fajcsty will be accompanied by His Royal Highness the Prince Philip.

All o[ Her M.:tjesty's Sul~jects in Newfoundland have rejoiced to hear this news and my Ministers \.,.ill take all steps consistent with overriding arrangements ma<le by the Fed­ eral authorities at Ottawa to enable as many as possible of the cl1ildrcn of the Province to greet their monarch on this happy occasion.

Once again the sea has taken its toll and all Newfoundlanders are deeply grieved hy the loss of the lives of gallant fishermen in the dragger "Blue Wave," My l'vlinisters, in common with the vast ma­ jority of our people, have viewed with great concern the economic and other turbulence now prevailing in the largest and the most vital or our industries. ~'ly Ministers deem it their cardinal duty to take all reasonable steps to ensure that the future of the pulp and paper industry in Newfoundland, in­ volving directly or indirectly the ,vell being of the entire Province, is not jeopardized.

You will be kept informed of developments so that you will be in a position to take what­ ever action you may consider to be neces­ sary.

Since you last met, my ivlinisters have had further discussions with the Government of Canada \Vith a view to impressing upon them the necessity for more generous con~ sideration than that recommended by the Royal Commission set up under the provi­ sions of Term 29 of the Act of Union, whereby Newfoundland became a Province of the Canadian Nation. tvly Ministers have felt that, without this more generous assis­ tance, it would not be possible for our public services, especially in the fields of educa-

8 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS tion, highway construction and public health, to be continued at their present level, Still less could ·we hope to provide for the steady improvements in these levels which the people of Newfoundland entered the Canadian Confederation to attain. It is our hope that the Government of Canada will make knmvn its intentions in this matter at the earliest possible dat.e so that you may be in a position to provide adequate supply to Her i\'i~jesty.

Within rccen tweeks my Ministers have an~ nounccd important transactions relating to the development of the vast iron ore de~ posits in the Lake Wabush area of Lab~ rador. The Government hope, in the near future, to inform vou of still other de~ vclopmcnts of this kind in the same region of Labrador. These developments are ex­ pected to provide many opportunities for employment to our people.

Certain meas~ urcs dealing i,vith these matters will be laid before vou in this session. tvty ti.-folistcrs have been able to effect sig­ nilicant changes in the operation of two im­ portant industries established with the help of public monies, These changes arc de­ signed to bring about improvements to, and expansion of, the operations of the North Star Cement Company and Canadian ~fachinery and Industry Construction Li~ mited. Within rerent years my Ministers, \Vith your approval, have endeavoured to eliminate much of the historic inequality in educa­ tional opportunity in this Province.

The success thus far attained by this progrJ.mmc has encouraged my Ministers to consider submitting to you future plans for an ex ten~ sion of the bursary and scholarship prog­ ramme to the end that no deserving chil­ dren in the Province ·will be denied the op~ port.unity to acquire a high school education because of their parents' lack of means, or because of the smallness or remoteness of the settlements in which thev fat Since you last met, my Ministers have ac­ tively investigated the problems associated with the erection of a new and large univer­ sity designed to meet the ever expanding needs of higher education.

It is expected that during the present session my Prime 1\.-tinistcr will he laying before you definite proposals whid1, if they meet with your ap­ pr~wal, will result. in an early het,rinning of this great pn~jcct, During the past year our Province has ex­ perienced economic vicissitudes which have resulted in some hardship. Our fishery was one of the poorest in our history and, be­ cause of conditions in world markets, there \Vas some reduction in logging and mineral production.

These economic dislocations \Vould have been felt much more severely were it. not for the stabilizing factors which have resulted from the union of Newfound­ land with Canada. Nevertheless, the ex­ perience of the past year has done much to emphasize the continued need for the de­ velopment of other resources.

To this end my Ministers have taken steps to facilitate the efforts being made by those corpora­ tions v.:hich have concessions in the Pro­ vince to bring about development of our forest, mineral and waler power resourc:es, It is the belief of mv Ministers that several of these enterprises, will get into operation during the coming year. 1'vfv rvtinisters have continued to take active m~asures to assist the fisheries of the Pro­ vince. Plans have been made for the com~' pletion of the great fishery plant at. LaScie so that it will be ready to commence produc­ tion before the end of the present year.

In common with the people of the Burin Peninsula, the Gove111ment have been­ deeply concerned by the failure and col­ lapse of the private company that built, owned and operated the large fish plant at Fortune. The collapse of this company caused considerable hardship in some sec­ tion of that Peninsula.

The Government h,:n:c been searching for experienced and dependable fish plant companies who ·would be interested in getting this plant back into production upon some reasonable bask Improvements in the fresh and fro­ zen fish markets of North America in recent months have encouraged all in Newfound­ land who have any interest in those fisheries, My Ministers have noted with ap­ proval the effr)rts being made by responsi­ ble mercantile interests to regain some of the salt fish markets of the Caribbean. ;\Jany other matters will be brought forward for your consideration.

You will be asked to vote supply to Her r-.-J;~jesty. I ask God's bles~ sing upon all your deliberations. Hon. L.R. Curtis (Attorney General): would at this time, ;\,fr. Speaker, ask leave to introduce and to have read a first time, a Bill

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 9 entitled, "An Act To Amend The Labour Relations Act" On motion, and by leave of the house, Bill read a first time,ordered read a second time on tomorrow. ADDRESS IN REPLY: Mr. A. Mifilin (Trinity North): Mr. Speaker, I rise for the purpose of proposing that a Select Committee be appointed to draft an Address in Reply to the gracious speech with which His Honour the LieutenantM Governor has opened this assembly today, and I h<wc much pleasure in proposing this motion. \,fr.

Speaker, Her M.:~jesty's loyal suqjects in Newfoundland are, indeed delighted that Her M,~jesty and His Royal Highness, Pr~ incc Philip tvill visit this Province in June. The loyalty of Newfoundland to the Crown has never been surpassed by any of Her i'vh~jcsty's sul~jccts in any part of the Com~ monwealth; and thatdeepand abiding faith in the monarchy will abide as long as there is a Newfoundland. Our loyalty will he amply demonstrated when Her Majesty and Pr~ ince Philip visit here in June.

It was with deep regret that the people of this Province heard the sad news of the loss of the dragger "Blue Wave" and her crew. rvlany families arc grief~stricken by the loss of loved ones; and the towns of Grand Bank and Fortune have lost some of their finest citizens, I express my sincerest sympathy to the bereaved families and relatives and I know every member of this hon. house would want to be associated with me in this expression of sympathy.

In the appeal to the public for the dependents of those lost in the disaster, which has already been launched, it goes ,vithout saying there will be a generous response from the people of this Province. ~fr. Speaker, the Speech from the Throne places the present problem of the pulp and paper industry in a prominent position; and because the industry affCcts the life of every person in this Province, it certainly is enti­ tled to this prominence. I submit, ~fr. Speaker, it is the bounden duty of the Gov­ ernment to do everything they reasonably can to assure the industry suffers as little dislocation as possible.

It is my belief that this Government will not do anything for the so-called "vested interests" of Ne\.v­ foundland that will do violence to the work­ ing class of Newfoundland. On the other hand, I also believe the Government will not permit the loggers of Newfoundland to be­ come the victims of the unprincipled prop~ aganda which is being precipitated upon them. All throughout his life the hon. the Premier has been the 6'l'eatest protectionist of the cause of labour Newfoundland has ever knmvn, and since becoming Premier has not wavered in his sympathy for the working class.

We all know his position in this dispute. He has taken this position courageously, because he feels it is neces­ sary for the salvation of the pulp and paper industry and the salvation of the loggers engaged in this industry. I feel sure that if this hon. House is called upon to take any direct action in this unfortunate situation, it ,vill take such action as is in the best interest of Newfoundland and Newfoundlanders, and will do so with courage and without fear. l\fr.

Speaker, reference was made in the Speech from the Throne to discussions be­ t,veen the Government of Ne\.vfoun<lland and the Government of Canada in connec­ tion with the recommendations of a Royal Commission set up under the provisions of Tenn 29, of the Act of Union, whereby Newfoundland became a Province of the Canadian Nation. The reward recom­ mended by the Royal Commission has been discussed before, and there appears to be general agreement that it is inadequate.

So all I have to say at this time is that we all hope that our Government have impressed the Government of Canada with the absolute necessity of an up,vard revision of the re­ commendations of the Royal Commission; so that when the times comes for the making of the act of Confederation complete in every detail, this Province will be in a posi­ tion so that our public services can be con­ tinued at least to the present level.

Indeed, we hope that the Government of Canada, in its review of the Royal Commission's re­ commendations, will be sufficiently gener­ ous in its approach to our problems to per~ mit us to irn prove these levels, so that the Government can then develop our Provin­ cial resources. In short, let us hope that the award of the Canadian Government will be in such an amount that every Newfound~ lander will be proud, and justly proud, of

10 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS bclont,rin~ lO the Great Canadian Nation. Mr. Speaker, we were all greatly intcrcSted to hear the recent announcement of the Government in respect to the development of the vast iron deposits in Lake Wabush area or Labrador. There can be no doubt whatsoever that vast sums of moncv have already been spent. in this territory,' to dc­ tcnninc whether or not it is commercially feasible to carry on an operation there.

It has been proven beyond any doubt that there arc large deposits or iron ore, which can be reduced to a high grade concentrate: there is no doubt that within a very short. time a railway will be built into the \Vabush area and that this railway ,vill cost in the vicinity of SIO million.

"rherc is no doubt but that already, at Seven islands, dock lands have been cleared for this great pro­ ject. and application has been made to the Quebec Government for railway rights­ of'.,way from the present railway at Seven Islands to a new dock site. \Vith this type of money spent, and the interest which has been shown by people who arc putting in this sort of money, there is no doubt, in my mind at least, this tremendous development will be going ahead very shortly.

This is the kind of news the people of Newfoundland like to hear; for this development will pro~ vide much needed employment for New~ foundlandcrs and a great deal of revenue f<.>r the Treasurv. The Government is to be commended on' their effort in getting this pn~ject underway at this particular time. especially, when there is a general recession in the steel industrv in the United States of America. ' Mr. Speaker, I would like to f,rive credit to the Government and particularly to the hon, l\:finister of Education (Dr. RO\ve) for the progressive and successful prog-ram of his department of Government.

There is not one person in this hon. house who would wish denied to any deserving child in the province, because of economic or any circumstances, the opportunity to get a high school education. And when plans of the extension of the scholarship and bursary program come be fore this house, they will certainly receive the unanimous support of the house. \Ve arc all well aware of lhe absolute neces­ sity for the ereclion of a new and larger university. The prcsellt building is so over~ crowded one wonders how the work of the University can be carried on.

We must have a large university in order to accommodate the ever-increasing number of ambitious Ne\-.{oundlanders who wish to equip them­ selves with a university education and thereby better solve their problems in the ltelds of cndeann1r which they choose. [n­ deed, if it went no further than to provide the number of adequately trained teachers required, as times goes on, this alone would justify the erection of a larger univer­ sity.

Although there arc only two matters with respect to education mentioned in the Speech from the Throne, we all ofus know the prodif,llous problems which present themselves to the Government and the school authorities in practically every aspect of education in this Province. We know great progress has been made, and that we are pleased with the work which the hon. ivlinister of Education and his department h:n'c done, and arc also confident of their ability to look after the future of Newfound~ land in the educational lie Id.

Another thing we have noted is that the public interest in education has increased in the last fe,v years and an ever-increasing interest is needed. In this respect I would like to say that "CJON", with its varied programs on educa­ tion, has done a great deal to develop public interest in education. Mr. Speaker, the Speerh from the Throne talked of the poor fishery of last year and of reduced logbring and mineral production. Indeed the fishery in certain parts of the Province, last year, was almost a total fail­ ure.

Quite frankly, without the benefits re~ suiting from union of Newfi:Hmdland ,vith Canada, the hardships suffered by our fishermen would have been distressing. Even with these benefits, I am reliably in­ formed that fishermmen have made heavy inroads on the small deposits they have in banks. HO\vever, we believe that the poor fishery is not a chronic disease, and look fr>rward with faith to a good voyage this year and good returns. I do not propose to discuss the fishery, nor for that matter log­ ging, at great lentirth. These matters will un­ doubtedly receive equal treatment during this session.

However, there is one further obscr\'ation l would like to make about the fishery. It has to do with the curing and processing of salt codfish. During the past fe\v years we exported from the province to

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 11 Nov;1 Scotia on an ;1n.:r;igc ol :!00,000 qui11- tals or salt bulk. b-cry quintal of fish pays to our people S2.::I0 a quintal in labour. The need for this in the Province is obvious and the loss cannot be afforded. \Vavs and means musr. he found bv our dealer; in salt codfish whereby they :an p1ofitahly com~ petc with Nova ticot!an buyers, and thus eliminate this loss of wageS lo our New­ foundland wot kcrs. r...fr. Speaker, we all know the lmrdship that Fortune and the Burin Peninsula have suf­ fered as a result. of the closing of the fish plant. in Fortune.

We arc all happy to hear that the market in respect to fresh frozen fish has improved and with this develop~ ment we hope that the fish plant at Fortune will be re"opened. In a Province such as ours, we depend so heavily on foreign markets to purd1asc our fish, pulp and paper and other products, that we must bear the economic hardships resulting from a recession in foreign mar­ kets.

We can only hope that world comli~ tions will improve, and so bring improH:d economic conditions to this Pro\·incc, We cannot dan: hope to base our standard or living simply on the bare welfare benefits resulting from ConfederatiotL At best, they only sen·e as a buffer in hard umes and as something extra in good times. We arc therefore pleased that. the Government. have been increasing their efforts to de~ velop the resources of the Province, and we pray that their efforts will he crowned with success.

For, unless we can profitably de~ \'Clop our resources in this Province, we have little chance lo assure for our people the way of life to which they arc entitled; we cannot have the cduc:itional facilities ncces~ sary, the highways whith are essential, and the welfare and health facilities required by our people, In order to develop these re­ sources we will require e\Try effort and co~ operation of Government, both Federal and Provincial; of suppliers, fishermen, loggers, miners and labourers, whose in~ !crest in the development of this province must be a common interest . (Applause), Mr. G.

Clarke (Carbonear - Ba\· de Verde): Mr. Speaker, I rise to second die motion so ably proposed by my hon, friend, the member for Trinity North. I would like to say at the very beginning how pleased we are to learn that He1 ;\L~jesty, the Queen and His Royal Highness, Prince Philip, will visit Newfoundland in June of this year. It is indeed fitting that on this Canadian tour, tbe first. stop should be made in this Pro~ vince, whid1 cherishes t.hc honour of being Britain's first Colony.

We know the feeling of loyalty and affection displayed by our people will he second to none that will be evidenced in any part of the Dominion, It is also good to know that, once again, lhc em­ phasis will he placed on permitting as many children as possible to take part. in the de~ monstration of this affection and loyalty to their Sovereign. In common with the proposer of the rnotion and with every member of this hon. I-louse, I express my sincere sympathy lo the families ;md relatives of those men who lost their lives when the dragger ·'Blue Wave" went down.

Newfoundland in general and communities of the Burin Peninsula in par­ ticular have had more than their share ot' nrnrine disasters; and our hearts go out lO these sorrowing people, As has already been nolcd, each one of us, through the campaign for funds that. has now been launched, will be able to express our sym­ pathy in a more tangible way. I nole ,\·ith interest, !\fr. Speaker. that in the Speech the necessity of our using c\"cry cf.,. fort to develop our natural resources, min~ crals, forests, wateqx)wer and fisheries is stressed.

Last year the inshore fishery of the Pnwincc was ;.ii most a complete failu,re, and that fact was made c,-en harder because the Jishery of the year before was also poor. In spite oft.hat, Newfound!amlers around our (Oast will on(e again this year he prosecut­ ing the fishery in probably as great a number as they did last year. In the district of Carbonear-Bay.,.de-Verdc, for instance, which l haYe the honour to represent, t.his year will find 200 to 300 boats involving a total of 600or 700 men once again prosecut­ ing the Inshore fishery.

We sincerely trust that lhe efforts to bring economic stability to our fishing industry will meet with every success. At the same time, every effort to develop the other resources that we have must be made, because our evcr~growing labour population cannot be absorbed into the fisheries, and must find employment elsewhere. Also the fishermen must be pro­ vided with a means of alternative em ploy­ rnent. either logging, mining or any other

12 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS activities in order that they may augment their income, particularly when fa~ed with a bad fishery such as we have ha<l m the last two years. I.W.A. Now Mr. Speaker, I wish to comment very briefly on the current trouble in the logging industry of this Province. For fifty years now, the loggers of Newfoundland have been cutting and hauling pulp wood for that company which first established a paper mill in Newfoundland.

For over thirty years, the Newfoundland loggers have been providing pulp wood for the sec­ ond paper mill to be established in this Pro­ vince; and it is the hope of every logger, as well as that of every other citizen, that within the not-too-distant future, the New­ foundland logger will get the opportunity to provide logs, pulpwood for a third paper mill. The logger for the past twenty years has had his own Newfoundland Union representing him at the bargaining table when agree­ ments were being sought between the log­ gers and the paper companies. He has bar­ gained.

He has improved his lot, and down through the years there has been a steady improvement in the logger's lot in accor­ dan-..e \,1ith economic and social improve­ ment in our country. He has bargained con­ tinuously with the most cordial relations ex­ isting between the company and the log­ gers, and in a spirit of good-\vill, without lawlessness, hatred and fear, one person for another. There has been goodwill and a noted improvement in the lot of the loggers. But nmv the picture has changed com­ pletely.

The logging industry is almost at a stand-still and harmony has been replaced by lawlessness, hatred and fear; and one group of Newfoundlanders indulge in acts of violence ag.iinst their own fellow Ncw­ f{JUndlan<lers. Now, how was this brought about? The year ilef()re last, represent.at.ives of another union came to this prodnce and quietly and efficiently went about. their task of enticing loggers to lea\'e their established unions t.ojoin theirs. (And, make no mistake about it., these people were capable, skilled and smooth operators in the art of infiltra­ tion).

With promises of great increase in wages, the ultimate in living conditions and propaganda (untrue propaganda) fed to our Ne\vfoundland loggers, particularly the young loggers, they succeeded in getting a large number of our men to lc;n'c their own established union and join theirs. Now the story of how this \Vas done, Mr. Speaker, is a l~rng story. It is a t.errible story and one which eventuallv will have to be told, but. which I cannot r,i'ke the time of this House this afternoon even to tell in part. But, as I say, it must at some time be told and told in full.

Was it the great interest in the loggers which caused t.hese people to come here and create this chaos amongst our log~ ging workers? Why did they come here? That is a question which is going to be left. unans\vered right at the present moment, but we feel that their avowed intention of rescuing the loggers from peonage, from servitude, from slavery was not the real in­ tent.ion for their comi~g to this Province. The question is now, not why they came but the result of their coming and what is to be done about it.

We ha\·c lost in wages stagger­ ing amounts, at.a time when the economy of the Pro\'ince can ill afford it. And worst. of all, our law courts are full, some of them working overtime, to deal with this lawless• ness and ourjails have been filled with New• foundlanders, these Newfoundlanders who were heretofore peaceful and law-abiding citizens. There has been engendered hatred, ill•will, mistrust and fear, and it will take us a long while to recover. Drastic and quick action is necessary to restore peace and sanity to our m;~jor industry and to prevent the whole economy of our province from being wrecked.

I was therefore proud and happy t.hat the hon. t.he Premier took the st.and \\'hich he did. I was glad he had the wisdom and the courage to take this action and try and restore the industry to normal, and I feel sure he h,1s the backing of ~very member of this hon. House. The Speech from the Throne makes men­ tion or an extension of the bursary and scho­ larship program to help deserYing thildrcn

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 13 in the Province. I know everyone will be glad to hear this and to support any meas• ures which will further the education of our young people. The lack of education, both ,·ocational and academic, has been one of the main factors in most of our economic and social ills. It is heartening, therefore, to see the Government has placed such cmM phasis on its educational program.

Ercryonc is aware of the great strides made in the lield of education during recent yea rs, ;:md I hclic,·c that under the wise and capable guidance of the hon . .Minister of Education it will continue to go i(Jrwar<l. During the last ten years. hundreds of new schools have been built, old schools rcmod• elcd and the system of regional high schools introduced, and now it appears we ha,·c to discuss the question as to whether we can afford a new and larger university. It is my considered opinion, Mr. Speaker, that we cannot afford to be without this uni,·ersity.

During University Week, CJON, to its last­ ing credit, gave us an opportunity to learn something of the great work being done by the UniYersity, when members of the staff oflhc University were interviewed. We also learned something of the need for im­ proved facilities, if the University is to carry out the work fr>r which it was intended. Its potentials for the betterment of all New­ foundlanders is so great that we must do our utmost to see that it is a reality in the not-t0<>-distant future.

Comment is also made on the expansion and improvement in two of the industries which were established with the aid of pub­ lic money. \Ve welcome any such expansion of industry ifit will provide additional emp~ loyment, particularly at this time. It may be noted in passing, ti.fr. Speaker, these indus­ tries usually referred to as "new industries" are presently employing between 2000 and 3000 people and are paying out in wages close to S7 or $8 million annually. TERM 29: Now, Mr. Speaker, I come to that

section of the Speech which refCrs to Term 29, I am glad to hear that the Government have im~ pressed upon the Government of Canada that necessity fr>r more generous consider;:1~ tion than recommended by the Royal Commission set up under Tenn 29. The pros and cons of Term 29 have been aired so often in this hon. House and elsewhere that it is not my intention to !alxnir the point this afternoon.

It is sufficient to say that more continued improvement in public services; that is, in schools, hospitals, roads, etc., will depend to a large extent on the amount which the Government will receive, or this Province will receive, from the Fed­ eral Government. The Prime \finistcr and his colleagues at Ottawa may adopt either of two attitudes toward us. One may be that of politicians looking back at the past, and the other that of statesmen looking to the fu­ ture. We hope sincerely it will be the latter.

J-i(rn:ever, that it be settled as soon as possi­ ble is of vital importance too, and we hope that the Federal Government will follow its own maxim and not "wait until spring." I have mud1 pleasure, Mr. Speaker, in sec­ onding the motion proposed by my hon. friend from Trinity North (Mr. Mifflin), Hon. M.M. Hollett (Leader of the Opposi­ tion): i\fr.

Speaker, in rising to support the motion so ably made by the hon. member for Trinity North and seconded by the hon. member for Carbonear - Bay de Verde, I will say at the outset that it is not rnv inten­ tion to take up very much time. 1 ~vant to compliment these two young members on the able way in which they proposed and seconded this motion to appoint a commit­ tee to draft an Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne. I am sure we were all impressed by the entrance of His Hon­ our, the Lieutenant Governor, and his beautiful wife.

And I think the hon. the Premier ought to open the house more often, so we can get them to visit us occa­ sionally as time goes on. I would say I am very glad to sec ( I think) every member on the opposite side is pres­ ent today, as far as l can sec -No, they are not quite all here, or not all "quite there" - Not quite all here, I meant. What I do want

14 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS to say, ML Speaker. is that 1 am sure every~ body on this side of the house must haYC noted on the Etccs of the members opposite us some sort of vague look or something of thal kind, when tlwy looked across here and :-,aw th1.: support which Her \L~jesty's Loyal Opposition was getting in Newfoundland and saw all the people, all the visitors. on our side of the house. I am quite sure they felt pretty had abo111 that. But, they arc not all ''PC's," 7\-fr.

Speaker, not alL I do not intend to touth on anything in the Specd1 from tile T'lironc because the time is not. opportune for that; except just. one thing, which strikes me very forcibly, that is the reference to the tragedy which hap• pcncd 011 the South \\'est Coast.. I refer to that because I am a natin?, born on t.he South \Vest Coast, I ha Ye seen more tragedy on the South \Vest. Coast than I saw in the Great War. almost, not from the point of view of numbers but of stark, naked tragedy, w!1ere the breadwinner went out in the morning and did not come back.

We on the South West Coast. and indeed, Sir, all along the coasts ol'Newfoundland, hut. par­ tkularly the South \\'est Coast, have been used to stark tragedy and disaster, not only the sea hut on the land. Sorne of you re­ member the tidal wave, which I remember. when twenty-eight people lost their lives when tl1c waves came in over them and took away stages, stores, houses and everything else. \Ve han: become more or less, unf(n­ tunatcly, accustorm:d to such disasters.

But in late years improvemcnt.s have been made to such an extent in shipping, navigational facilities, radio and all that sort. of thing, that we have not had so much of this, and we were beginning to think that it was a thing of the pasL Hut, Sir, this recent tragedy brought some of us, al least, back to reality. \Ve are not in a position yet to control na­ ture. The storm which took place here in St.. John's just a few days ago indicated that, when again tragedy struck on the Battery Road.

These arc things which we New­ l(nmd!anders, if we intend to live here In Newfoundland, have to meet from time to time, and we must take t.hcm as we haH! historically, with generous hearts and we must contribute largely to help keep alive those who han· hecll left with nobody to look after them. r\fr, Speaker, there an; tt'n sut~jccts in this n:ry brief Spcl'ch from the 'Thronl'. I can~ not say it is not important, because some of these tl1ings hen: a re important. Remember the usual quotation used to describe the Speech from !he Throne? - "It was notable for what it did not contain'· - or something like that.

But in this particular instance there are three or four items, out. of the ten mentioned, that arc so import.ant to us in Newfoundland, to our welfare as a people, to our economy, so important that they cannot be lightly passed over and decided upon. They have to be considered in every little detail; and this House of Assembly, both the Government and the Opposition, has to devote its time very carefully in an endeavour to bring in legislation which will be to our best interest in Newfoundland. Now, Mr. Speaker, as I said before with such a distinguished gathering here, I do not wish to delay the house.

I just merely rose to convey to you, Sir, the support of the four of us in the Opposition, side for the motion which has been so ably presented. Thank you. Hon. J.R. Smallwood (Premier): l\-1r. Speaker, I would like to congratulate the hon. gentlemen who moved and seconded this present motion, and the hon. Leader of the Opposition for the graceful way in \Vhich he too supported this motion. To he frank with you, Sir, I have very little heart. for making a speech at this moment, on this particular motion. In the ordinary course of events this motion would be virtually the only business of the day.

In the opening session 1he Speech from the Throne is read, the motion is made that. a nimmittee be appointed to draft an address in reply and the t\\'O speeches are made in support of that motion. Then the speech made by the Leader of the Opposition, by way of com­ ment on it, constitutes, as a rule, about the only business done, traditionally, in this house on the day on which a new session opens,

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 15 As I intend in a few moments to bring a matter of g-rcat imporlancc before this house, and in doing so proclaim my reasons, I will content myself at this moment. with saying that, when the session gets down to business and gets into its proper swing, all these grave matters that are mentioned in the Speech from the Throne will, of course, receive the careful, thoughtful and patriotic consideration of my hon. friends opposite and my hon. friends on this side of the house: always in the hope, I believe, and in the firm desire that Newfoundland thereby would be made a better place in which to live.

I know that everyone in Newfoundland is very happy indeed that the Queen and her husband arc coming here to visit us this year. We are quite proud that. we arc Cana~ dians. We are quite proud that. we arc now the Ten!.h Province of Canada! But there is something of which we arc even more proud, and certainly more intensely proud, and that is the bet that we are Britain's Oldest Colony. \Ve arc that one spot on this earth where the Union Jack was first planted and where, please Goel, it will be the last, if there is a last place where it. will !ly. We are the first part of Britain m·en,eas.

We are the original Colony of the Common­ wealth. We arc extremely proud of that; that \VC are Britain's most ancient and mosl loyal Colony. And to have our Queen come to visit us this year is a matter that gives all Newfoundlanders the deepest possible satisfaction. The loss of the "Blue \Vave" is very shocking reminder to all of us of the kiml of economy we have, the way in which so many of ou~ people try to wrest a li\'ing, the price of admiralty.

They say that tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, of people have lost their very lives, in the history of Newfound• land and the operation of our great fisheries. It is a story that nc\"Cr can be told because tens of thousands of them went to nameless deaths. No one will ever know the number of ships that have been lost bv crashing into icebergs; just lost with aft hands. in the ca rly days of our history, when Englishmen who came here just did not ~now how to cope with ice, and learned the hard way, over a period of almost two cell• tu ries, before they knew how to do it.

There arc extremely im fX>rtant matters in this Speech from the Throne, especially tl1e great. development in Wabush Lake, In~ tcrestingly enough, there are here in this Chamber this afternoon l'wo men (each of whom is associated actively with two great groups of corporations, Canadian and American corporations) who are actively in­ terested in developing the iron ore re­ sources in the \Valn1sh Lake Arca of Lab~ rador.

Two great, two po\VCrltd, two ex­ tremely wealthy groups of companies straddling the boundary of this !{real Cana~ clian Nation and the great American Repl1h~ lie; who arc intensely interested in develop­ ing these resources. And we arc very glad to know that these particular developments will be carried on entirely within the territ­ ory of Newfound!ancl. That is to say, nnlike Knob Lake, Burnt. Creek, Ruth Lake, they will not straddle the boundary between Newfoundland and Quebec down there in Labrador but will entirely within the ter~ ritorial area of Labrador.

There will be many important matters to come before !he house, the most important of which, perhaps, I will attempt to deal with in a few moments from nmv. So, having of fcred my very sincere congratulations to these two hon. gentlemen and to the hon. Leader of the Opposition, I think I should resume my scat, so that I can bring forward this ex­ tremely important matter. Mr. Speaker: It. has been moved and sec­ onded that a committee be appointed to draft an Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne. I ,viii now appoint that committee: The hon. l\frmber for Trinity North (Mr. Mifflin). The hon.

Member for Carhonear, Bay de Verde (Mr. Clarke). The hon Member for St.John's South (:'\fr. Renouf). Hon. L.R. Curtis (Attorney General): ~fr.

16 l-10USE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEOINGS Speaker, give notice I will on tomorrmv ask leave to introduce a Bill, "An Act to Prohibit General Strikes." I also give notice I will on tomorrow ask leave to introduce a Bill entitled:"

An Act to Prohibit Secondary Boycotts," I.W.A. Hon. J.R. Smallwood (Premier): Mr.

Speaker, by leave of the house, I beg to move, seconded by the hon. the Attorney­ Gencral, the following resolutions: "WHEREAS the economy of this Province has, by the present woods labour dispute, been brought to a dangerous crisis, with strong probability of economic disaster: "The House of Assembly, while unreser­ vedly reaffirming its support of well­ organized and well-conducted trades and lalxlllr unions, strongly condemns the In­ ternational Woodworkers of America for its conduct in Newfoundland and Declares that, by this conduct, the said union has become a stumblingwb!ock to the pulp and paper industry and a clanger to the public interest.

"The House reaffirms its strong support fr>r the cause of the loggers and woodswworkers generally in Newfoundland, and emw phasizes the view that they must be rep­ resented by a strong union. "The House calls upon the loggers to with­ draw all support of the I.W.A. and r.o quickly organize a new union to include all loggers and other wood workers; to be in~ dependent of the pulp and paper com­ panies; and to be strictly nonpartisan in public affairs, so that the present strike can be brought to a speedy end." Mr.

Speaker. there are people across the Mainland of this nation who _just do not. understand the shock and horror of the people of Newfoundland over the bloody violence, lawlessness and disorder of this present strike. They just don't understand the feeling that all Newfoundlanders have, all Newfoundlanders, ninety-nine out of C\"ery hundred. The reason they do not un­ derstand is that they have grown accus- tomed to it in other Provinces, in certain other Provinces of Canada. It is not a new thing to them. It is something with which they have been familiar for a good many years past.

In Newfoundland, on the other hand, this thing has come suddenly. It has come full grown, born boots and all on. We arc not used to it. We <lo not propose to get used to it! The I. W.A. is the spiritual inheritor of that great and bloody tradition oJbloody labour wars conducted in the United States in the coal fields and before that in the hard rock industry, and then subsequently, on the Pacific Slopes, in the forests of the Pacific Slopes, It is a tradition of lawlessness, a trad~ ition of bloody warfare - bloody labour warfare. I have known about it all mv life, as a trade union organizer, as ;:1 labour,man.

It is not new to me. And now it has come to Newfoundland, brought here by the spiritual successor of the famous "Wob­ blies"; the Industrial Workers of the World, the O.B. U ., "One Big Union"; ruthless, re­ lentless, unscrupulous! They asked them­ selves into Ne,\{oundland. TI1ey were not invited. Be clear on that. There is an hon. member of this house, present today, who is or was the solicitor for one of the New­ foundland loggers' unions; the hon. member for Fogo, (Mr. Mercer) barrister by profession, who was for years the solicitor to one of the Newfoundland loggers' unions.

He knows; he could tell this house, if the need were there, that this I. W.A. muscled in here - muscled in, in the true traditions of gangsterism; in the Hoffa tradition.Jimmy Hoffa's tradition of musceling in. They were not asked. They were not invited. They muscled in here. They strong-armed their way in. They "Jimmy Hoffa's" their way into Nevd0undland. Many and many a camp in Newfoundland \Vas visited at two o'clock and three o'clock in the morning by organized bands of I.

W.A. members, where the loggers, asleep in bed, were outnum­ bered two and threewfold by these union members, who came in with their "peace~ fol" persuasion, peaceably persuading them to join, al two and three o'clock in the

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 17 morning, and outnumbering them two and threc~fold. We haYC seen more lawlessness, more mob­ dolcncc, more mob-rule in tlic last fifty~ four days than we had seen previously in a!l of Ncwf(nmdland's history, in all the labour disputes we ha\T ever had, all of them put together - more in the last fifty~frHJr days, And fifty~two days after tile strike began and this bloody violence had continued, the leader of this union appeals to the trn:mbcrs to be iaw~abiding! One of the organizers of! his union is a man named :\IcCool.

McCool, on a Sunday, vis­ ited a logging camp in the vicinity of Deer, Lake. He sent out for loggers - certain loggers, to come to that camp from half a dozen other camps within reasonable dis~ tancc, to come and meet him in this central tamp. They did so, and he gave them a talking-to. On the following day, many men poured out of these camps on strike. ~kCool was asked about it by one of the radio stations. He knew nothing! It was news to him. 111C first he had heard orit! He would ha\"e to look into it. He said he would enquire and find out what it was. He kne,s: nothing about it!

We lmn: had more decent Newfoundlan~ dcrs seeing the insides ofjails and r.he inside of courtrooms in the last fifq.,-frmr days, in connccton with labour disputes, than in all the previous history of Newfoundland; good, decent Newfoundlanders; decent, Christian men; law~abiding, honest, simple, u11sophis1icar.ed men who were being turned into ''ghouls", turned into "goon squads" by the I.W.A., befouling our New­ foundland life, to the shock and horror ol' all ourd1urches, all of them, without excep­ tion; to the horror of all our press, with exception; to the horror of all our fXllitical parties, \\"it.hout exception; and to the hor~ ror of the overwhelming public sentiment of our good, decent Newfoundland people. ~fr.

Speaker, I would ask the house to take note of that: The pattern of the future is being-set in this strike; the model, the mode for the future! If this strike should win, it would be because of the bloody violence, the lawlessness, the mob rule, And in the future all unions having labom difficulties al! 1m­ ions in Newfoundland, or most of t.hcm, about to strike, \fould turn inst.inct.in:lr to the L W,A, 'The I. W.A. then would be the schoolmasters for the labour mmTmcnt in Newfoundland. Thcv would be the teachers, the tutors.

Th~y would be the pro­ fessors in al! future strikes, "Nothing suc­ ceeds like success." If vou can win with a bloody strike, bloody violence and hndcss­ ness ,ln<l mob rule, :md if YOH can win and get away with it, and win an'd force the emp­ loyer! o his knees; if you can suct-ecd, is not that olffiously the way to do it in future? The L \V,A., if it won, would not onlv be­ come the most powerful body in Newfr;und­ land v,:ithin its mvn immediate field, but by its prestige, by it.s st.anding in the rest of the labour mon:mcnt, would be unchallenged and almost unchallengeable.

For the first time in our history ,vc are beginning to get a militant class-conscious trade unionism, Nov,·, that is greatly beloved by the Communists. The Communists al­ \vays feel they can get somewhere when they get militant, class~conscious trade unions to deal with. They knmv that your God~ fearing, decent citizens and fathers and husbands who go to church regularly, go t.o their lodges; whose kids go to school, the decent God-fearing citizen is poor material for Communism.

But. your militant, fight­ ing, relentless, ruthless, class-conscious trade union is very good raw material upon \•ihich to build a Communist movement. Now J ask this house to try to imagine some­ thing very difficult to imagine: Imagine the United States of America, that great. <.:oun­ try, imagine a foreign union coming into the United States from, let us say, Grear. Britain,or you might take France,:Gcrmany, but let us take Great Britain. In the United States, Great Britain is a foreign nation. En­ glishmen, Scotch, Irish, Welsh people arc fc.)feigners - the United Kingdom is a foreign nation.

Imagine, if you can, a union from Great Britain, some powerful union in Great Britain, moving bodily, bodily with~ out invitation, into the United Stal.cs and bet,rinning to organize (let. us say) the coal industry, ignoring the frtct that that indus­ try is alre,1dy organized with an American union. Ignoring that fact, they proceed to organize these coal miners in a foreign union, domiciled in a fi:Heign nation, owing allegiance r.o a foreign flag. And having by

18 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS various means organized all of the coal in­ dustry, they then took in the steel industry and the automobile industry and aircraft. industry and railroads, by which time they would have organized into this foreign union, domiciled on foreign soil, owing al­ legiance to a foreign flag, organized into that union in the United States, half of the cconomv of the United States. Would the United States Government allow that? And if they would, would the Congress allow it? Allow a foreign union to sit astride half of the economy of that courHrv?

And A,N,o: Company and,Bowatcrs, bet ween them, constitute half of our New~ found!and economy. Shall we allow a foreign union from a foreign country - foreign, friendly - but nonetheless foreign? They han: lhcir Stars and Stripes, we have our Union Jat k. They have their citizenship, we have ours, They have their Constitution; we have our Constitution. They are a fr1reign cuunt.ry to us, we arc a foreign country to them. There is no ques~ tion of that - friendly but foreign nations.

Will we allow a union, a foreign union from a foreign country; will we allow this particuw lar foreign union, the (L W.A.) to come in and dominate half of t hc economy of this little Province? Let alone the quCstion o! introducing amongst our people these new philosophies, these new concepts, these new ways of looking at things, these new moralities, Leaving all that aside, is it safe for our economy - half of' it - to be domi­ nated ;md controlled by any one foreign union, domiciled on foreign sml and owing allegiance primarily to a foreign flag?

Mr.Speaker, until 1909our Newfoundland fishermen had one way of making a living, which was to catch fish and sell it. In 1909 the A.N.D. Company began to produce newsprint paper: and for the first time in our history, thousands of our fishermen had a new'way of making a dollar opened up lo them, which was t.o go into the bush for the A,N.D. Company, Then the great paper mill came to Corner Brook, and many thousands of our fishermen got an additional opportunity to earn a dollar.

So that today, as I speak to you, there are '.20,000 Newfoundland men who work in the woods, not at any given moment, any one day, but in a season. There would he 20,000 Newfoundlanders working in the lumberwoods for tl1e two paper companies; 20,000 - 17,000 of them ;ire fishermen.

These 17,000 fishermen, or part-time fishermen who are part-time fishermen and parH.irne loggers, live in 700 different set­ tlements along the G,000 miles of our roasL Remember the figure: I 7,000 fishermen in 700 settlements stretchmg along 6,000 miles of our coasL These 17,000 fishermen may not all he old-lash inned fishermen with bluC guernseys. Some may be producing fish for modern fnm:n~fish plants and some nor producing cod!1sh hut salmon, lobster, herring or a combination of any two or more. They have the outlook ol' fisher­ men.

They have I he background of fisher­ men But they go in the bush for a fortnight every year, or three weeks or four weeks or five or six or seven weeks each year and thereby augment the income they managed to make, or have not man.aged to make in the fisheries. In addition to getting this ad­ diuonal cash income, earn a few more un­ employmcntstamps lo go into the1r unemp­ loyment. insurance books, and take back with them to these 700 settlements millions upon mi!lions of dollars of cash. Of the 20,000 are left 3,000 other lo14gers who arc not fishermen, who arc loggers only.

I say to this house this afternoon that the altogether wicked plan of the I. W.A. is to confine the logging industry to this :1,000 or more men. They say: "Equip these 3,000 to 4,000 men witl1 chain sa\\·s am! otherwise mechanize them, and in four or five months a year in the bush they cm supply the A.N.D. Company and Bowaters with all the wood they need. Organi1e these 3,000 to ·LOOO men into tight, wcll~knit, compact trade unionists earning S.? or $fi thousand dollars a year; J.,'1Vc 1.hc I \V,A.

S 100,000 in dues." Let J, W .A. get a million dollars out of' it in cash and let I 7,000 fishermen be le ft. as they were before 1909, with nothing but fish and dole. Now, I am prepared to admit frankly that this wicked plan \.HHtld he a good thi1;g for the L W.A.

I am prepared to admit it would be a good thing for the 3,000 to ·-l.000 log~ gers who constituted the membership of that highly industrialized union, I am not prepared to admit it would he good for the l 7,000 fishermen and their families, for 700 Newfoundland settlements (that is ovc;r half ol' Newfoundland) not that it would be good for the economy of Newfoundland, frn the industries, the factories, the husincs-

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 19 ses, 1hc railwavs, for al! the rest of our economy and a{1xi!iary indusiries that go to make up Ncwfow1dland. That is their plan. And I hold that it is the solemn duty, the duty ot Newfoundland to stop that, to stop the l. \V.A. in its tracks, to send the I. W.A. out of Newfoundland. Thal is our duty. It is the duty, I hold, of this house to help in doing that. It is the duty o! the Government to do what lies in its power, and it is the duty of the general public of Newfoundland. We have a chance that no other province of Carmela has. \Ve GIil stop it now.

We are still big enough to stop it ~ other provinces are not. It has gone too far ahead in other provinces, it has made too much heathvay. A mighty machine has been set up in other provinces,a mighty prop­ aganda machine. I have known about this labour mon:rnent and understood it too long to be scared when hired, salary-paid employees of a union, when a button is touched in some central office, begin shooting telegrams to me.

If I did not know how they operated I might be fooled into thinking that what was happening was this: that. all across Canada, unions ,vere calling meetings of their mem­ bers, and that hundreds of thousands of good Canadian people were meeting in their regularly convened meetings of their unions, and that they were there consider­ ing carefully and debating the speech I made, and were mo\"lng from the floor re~ solutions condemning me; that these resol­ utions ,vere moved and seconded and <le~ bated and finally a vote put to the members and the motion carried and then put on the telegraph lines and sent to me to tell me ho\\' the masses of Canadians felt about my sug­ gestion to the loggers of Newfoundland.

If I did not know ho-w these things operated, I might be scared. llut I say this: that even here in our Province these unions that have called membership meetings have not suc­ ceeded in getting resolutions adopted, con~ demning the suggestions that have been made. Now, it is time, l believe, for a nonpartisan approach to this thing!

I have been deeply touched, far more deeply touched that I would allow myself to say, by the kind of nonpartisan support I have received in Newfoundland, support from just "New­ foundlanders" - Newfoundlanders first, Liberals second, Tories second, Norther- ners sr.:coml, nty,nc11 sewnd, "7'-,'cwfound­ land First" just reacting as decent New~ foundlanders, in thousands~ When I re­ ceive letters and telegrams from branches of my hon, friend's party, ( l sec he knows I have) when 1 receive tdegrams with offers of. support from branches (organized branches) of his party across this Pnr,;ince, l must be touched ~ And I am!

This is a timt: when we must. all speak fr;r '.\lewfoundlamL Remember that thrilling thing that hap­ pened in the House of Commons at West.­ minister. (I think it was Ear! Winterton who shouted atross the floor of the House at Arthur Greenwood, was it? I forget. Some member stood to speak to auack the Gov­ ernment of the day on the conduct of the war, l remember and Earl Winterton shouted "Speak for England"!) Not for ,1 party, no!. for any partisan interests - "Speak for Nc\vfoundland"l - and tell this wicked cro\vd where they can go, Motion: That this resolution be received and adopted. Hon. M.M.

Hollett {Leader of the Opposi~ tion); \Jr. Speaker, without laking up too much time, I would like to say a word or l\Yo with reference to this very irl1portant rcsol~ ution. \Ve on this side of the house arc natural opposers. We oppose lq.,rislation brought in from t.ime to time by the Gov­ ernment, not so mud1 perhaps because we want lo be always opposing but because we want to raise discussion on the various mat­ ters.

But we have been long-enough in the Opposition now to know that there arc times in the history of a House of Assemblv, or of a Governm~nt or of an Oppositio;1, when to oppose would be the worst possible thing to do in this ,rnrld, We had an occa­ sion at. our last session,Such an occasion arose in connection with the recommenda­ tions of the \.le Nair Commission. In that particular instance, you will remember, Sir, that. we supported a Joint Resolution of this house. Why did we do that?

We did it, Sir, because we believe it. was in the best interest of this little country which we lm'e so much, We have here before us, introduced by the hon. the Premier, one of the most impor­ tant resolutions, I think, that I have ever seen introduced in this house or any other house in Newfoundland. It touches upon unionism. \\'e, Sir, of tl1e Opposition, and I

20 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS am quite sure, 1hose on the G-ovcrnmcnt side, believe in unionism. We believe in the right of the people lo form unions in their own inrercsL We will fight side by side with our people to maintain that right to un­ ionize themselves. We believe they have the right t.o bargain collectively, collective bar­ gaining. They have the right of all sorts of things under unionism as it is today, as it exists today, after many, many years of fighting and heart~rending of the peoples ol' England and America and Canada, and all over the world.

When unionism was first introduced into this world nearly everybody was against it, until it was seen there \Vere many good points in unionism. Indeed if it were not for unionism today, the fate of our ,vorkers would be in a dire mess. So, Sir, we believe in unionism! But, Sir, unionism in a country without an economy is useless, And we on this side of the House have consi~ dcred every aspect of this dispute which is now going on, and we have, Sir, come to the conclusion that what is happening in central Newfi:nmdland and \YCstem Newfound­ land is something derogatory to the welfare or our people.

And we believe it is the duty of the Government and, may I say, of the Opposition, to protest in no uncertain terms vdten such a situation arises. I watched one of the officials of the I. W.A. on television some short. time ago. And as he spoke, Sir, and as he suggested rhat the I. W.A. ,vas such a pov,erful institution in this world that they could get in touch with unions in Great Britain and all over the world and stop the dcli\-cry of paper from A,N,D. and Bowaters, if they so desired. Thar was insinuated.

I wa~ nauseated, nauseated to think !hat. any man, whatever )1is nationality, could go on the air here in Newfoundland and threaten to destrov an industry, which, Sir, is the lifc-hloo{l of NewfoundLrnd. That radio address sick­ ened me, as it must have sickened many people in this country. Now, I have every sympathy forthe loggers. I lived in Grand Falls for seven years. I know the conditions, and I have c\·ery sum­ pathy - and I am prepared to fight for the loggers.

But I am not prepared to stand idly by, (and I am quite sure not one of my colleagues is either) and sec even the log­ gers, under the leadership which they have, disrupt the economy of the whole of New~ found!and. And that is what they arc doing, Mr. Speaker! We cannot possibly, as an Op­ posilion, do other than on this occasion agree with this resolution. The wording ofit may not be agreeable in certain aspects, but the principle, Sir, is correct. -and \Ve are, as I say, not going to stand idly by and see any union disrupt the economy of the 450,000 people in this country.

Nearly everybody in this country is depen­ dent on the logging industry and on the paper industry. The hon. Premier just pointed out that some 17,000 fishermen in this country arc in a measure dependent upon the succcssfu I prosecution of the log­ ging industry.

Grand Falls itself, and sur­ rounding tmvns, with large populations, people who are not loggers, thousands of people are dependent on these loggers going into the woods and cutting down the trees, Arc we going to allow somebody to come into this country and persuade these, I say, innocent loggers (and I say it is not with any derogatory "innocent") and per~ suade them to stop all work - stop all work - these people in Grand Falls and in Wind­ sor and in Buchans and various other places depending on the logging industry - to heck with them?

Then tr t4et a man going on the air, like this fellm\!, 1dd, saying: "We will get in touch with t.h 1ion in England and in the States and we I sec to it, or at least they will sec to it that 1xoducL, pro­ duced by the A.N.D. Company will not be allowed to get into the markets." Sir, if we are going to live under tyranny such as that, I say, we are better dead. I, for one, heartily support, heartily, the fact that the Government has taken the step it has. They have taken the right step.

I must say we did get lots of criticism about our support of the resolution in connection with the Mc Nair Report. \Ne got a lot of criticism from our mvn friends, our own supporters, and I dare say we got a lot from the Liberals and others. We arc going to get a lot more on this. Bur. we four men on this side of the house, Sir, stand for Newfoundland.

We stand not only for the fishermen, not only for the merchants, not only for the loggers, not only for the P.C,'s and certainly not only for the Liberals, but \Ve stand, four-square, for Newfoundland, and say anything ,vl1ich is introduced into this country which un~ dermines our economy, Sir, that we will fight to the last ditch. I have seen so much propaganda. I had a

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 21 telegram myself from a big union in On­ tario, where they suggested to me that the Government were using the R.C~LP. to break this strike. Now, evidently they did not knmv what they were talking abouL They arc not on the scene. They do not know what is happening. Somebody wired them something about the ItC.M. P. arrest.~ ing some people, and they say -well, that. is the Liberal Government down there send­ ing the R.CJvLP. in there to break up the strike. And this man, head of one of the biggest unions in Ontario, sent that mes­ sage.

I Imel a similar message from Prince Ru pert, I believe, in British Columbi,1. Here we get men as far west. as British Columbia telling us what we should do. And what are they doing it on? Just hcrcsay evidence. We here in Newfoundland see what is happen­ ing. I daresay if the Attorney General chose to get to his feet today he could tell us things happened in this country which would raise your hair -if you had any - I have not got. very much hair, but I am not the only one. But, Sir, I want us to be \"cry sure that we knmv what we are doing in this thing.

We have to handle it very carefully, very, very carefully. I have had many, many, many telegrams from people all O\"er the country - and a lot of them from a district which is represented by the hon the Premier. As a matter or fact some or them indicated he will ne\·er land in Bonavista North again. Mr, Smallwood: I will take a chance. Mr.

Hollett: I have to tell these people today, I sympathize with the attitude they have taken, but in this case must support their representative the Premier, in the stand which he has taken, because I believe it is in the best interest of Newfoundland, in tl1c best interest of tl1ese people themselves. And I want to say to them now that we shall do everything we can to assist the economy of Newf(iundland a11d not to break it down.' Sir, I could go on for hours, but I had better not.

I would like to conclude by saying that we will do everything in our power on this side of the house to sec to it that the paper industry is not even slowed up. When you come to think of the economy of this coun~ try at the present time, think of the fishery last year, Bell Island with 550 men laid off last week, and now think of somebody com~ ing in and organizing the loggers,' 3,000 men (ii there are '.),000 men) to go on stnkc and stop all work unless they get en:ryt.hing they want, Sir, it is time for the Government to take action - l really surprised the Go\"N emrnent did not take some action before.

We support. the resolution, ~fr. Speakt.'r. Mr. J.D. Higgins (St. John's East): Mr. Speaker, I do not propose to delay the house at all on this matter, I am merclv rising because I think, as my leader has said, it is a time when anybody who is in public life, if he is worth his salt at all, will he prepared to stand up and be counted on this issue. And I do not think anybody Gin have any divided opinion on it.

You arc either in sympathy and in approval with the ac1ion that is being taken by the Government or }'Oil arc noL I think for once the Premier is, I think he is probably a(curatc when he says 99% - I think he is verv close to the actual mark. It is not a time i·or adulation. The situation is too serious for that. But how any Government could be expected to stand by and let matters continue to drift. as thev were drifting is inumccivablc to me.

In th~ action that has been 1aken there mav be cerwin ol' the mechanics that arc going lo be worked out in the legislation we will hear later, that may demand some explanation but with the wisdom of the decision to inter­ vene nobody can quarrel. I merely, Sir. stand because I think a man should stand on this issue and not try to take the protective colouration of any party he is in favour oL Mr. A.M. Duffy (St. John's Cen<rc): Mr. Spe,iker, I think it is quite dear to the Pre­ mier and the members of' 1he Government what our stand is in this verv unfortunate dispute.

At the same time l f~el that we, as members of the Opposition, should indi­ vidually express our supporL The Opposi~ tion, as the name implies, opposes what it considers unsound legislation; iI criticizes good legislation with the hope of making it !Jetter. ilut 1here are times. extraordinary times, and this is one o!'them, extraordinary occasions when I think the ranks haYe to be closed. And several hon. members Ji;1\·e said now't. is 1.imc !(Jr Newfoundland this is non~partisan - the economy of Newfound­ land is in jeopardy.

Our \~'ay of' li{C, our philosophy arc all at stake, and no right­ thinking Newfoundlander can take <HI) other sland. We have an obligation, every

22 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS member of this Assembly, a solemn obliga* tlon to Ncwfrnmdland first and to labour, I !eel that many of the line citizens or New­ foundland wlio come within the scope of labour arc confused by ,;_ !ever people,

b) methods that. arc very familiar !O us, I fed that. cvcry step should be taken, and l think ,vi!l be taken that there 1,vi!! he no confusion at alL \Ve do not want iO see brother set against brother in this dispute: and I feel. \Ir. Sp{:akcr, 1hat we haw: to make a YCfj definite stand on this cxtrcmc!v serious matlcr, Itisunncccssarytogointo'it. Weare al! familiar with the matter the Premier out~ lined, I merely want to say, as a rnemhcr of this house. I :strongly suj)port the resolu­ tion, Mr. G.R.

Renouf (SL John's Sou!h): !\.Ir, Speaker, as the rnnduding speaker I shall not take too much time in my remarks con­ cerning the rcsn!ut.!on. I would sav al firs! that it i~ fitting a ml proper that the ~!ements of this !al){)ur trouble should be transferred from the Canadian National Telegraph lines to the calm and and irnpor­ tance of this House of 1\sscml1lv, We arc all conscious of the importance of this issue. We find on the one hand the cn)nomy of Newi·(}Und!and is !Jeing_jC()par~ dized.

We find on the other hand that we have to be aware of the ,n:H'are, safeguard­ !n~ the welfare and benefits or the Jog!4(-,..., of this country. Yet i1 is important still that \Ve make sure we arc acting in the best waj so that the welfare of the tmions of this counlry be prcsen:crL I repeat, ML Speaker, tha! I consider this issue of \'Ct'V great importance, and

whereas people d<,) not like being told wh;ll is going for them they do not like being told what Ibey should do, J do submit that !here is an clement in this dispute, an element arising which wiil he for the fotun: benefit and future welfa1·e of labour in this country. I feel, Mr. Speaker, that we have little kar of the Anglo-Newfoundland Company destroy­ ing the working people of this country, and the same applies to the other paper com~ pany. l feel that labour legislation, or !q.,ris­ !ation in relation to woods and lumbering business, has been of long standing in this country.

Years back statures were enacted safeguarding the rlg!Hs, the working condi­ tions and the general elements of wood labour work. I did n:ad with some interest written matter by Mr. Isaac ~krccr, O.C. who is, incidentally, the hon. member in'°'i'!frs house for Fo14"0, in which he outlined the long list of ~ewfound!and legislation which has been enacted for the benefit of' the log­ gers and the benefit of the !ogi:,'lng industry.

I ·will no! recapitulate that in full, but there is all indication that we Newfoundlanders. no matter ,rhat side we belong to, can agree that the welfare of loggers has het:n in the minds and hearts of the various Newfound­ land Govcrnmcnt.s for years and years past. When l said a moment ago, Mr.

Speaker, 1ha! nobodv \Vishes to be told what is good for them oi· what they should do, I h;td in mind. ha,.-!ng read a "letter in reply to the same hon. \!ember for Fogo, ahnut a ago, when he wrote to the President the Canadian Labour Congress and told many of the dangers and troubles and ronfusions and strife that V.'crc about to arise in New~ foundland, He replied then. He said, ln part. he agreed with ;\fr, ~krccrtbat a situa­ tion like thi.s is not good at any time, he it in ~cwfound!and or any other Pro\·incc of nur great country.

Ir ·the President. of the Canadian Fnleraiion of Labour agreed that s!rilC, !rouble, friction, any thing of that nature would endanger the economy of the great counlly of Canada, r think that is a very significant thing to remember, and I feel sure !hat in re-emphasizing and bring­ ing up this point, the loggers of this country will probably re!ko and may rcalin.: thai responsible leaders donot want that trnubk am! restrictions for several reasons.

It is no! good for unionism: it is not good for labour, and it is certainly not good for Newfound* lamL Well, ~IL Speaker, we now come to the wording of this resolution: "The House of Asssembly, while unreservedly reaffirming its support of well*organized and well­ conducted trndcs and labour 1m1ons, strongly condemns the International Woodworkers of' America for its conduct in Newfoundland and declared that bv this conduct !he said union has beco,mc a stumbling-block to the pulp and paper in* dustry and a danger to ihe public interest.

"The house n:afflnns its strong support for the cause of the loggers and woodworkers gcncr,dly in Newfoundland, ,md em­ phasin·s the view that they must be rep~ resented hy a strong union. ''The house w!!s upon the loggers to with-

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 23 draw all support of the Intt:rnational Woodworkers of Amcrita, and quickly, to organi1c a IJC\\' union to indudc all loggers and other woodworkers, to be inckpcnde11t of 1hc pulp and paper companies, and strktly nonpartisan in public al fairs, s1i t !1at the present sl r!kc ctn be bmugh1. lo a spl'cdy end." I arn glad to sec that this resolution restricts this issue lo an iuvitat1011 to the loggers of~ this country to join a union not sponsored hy any Government.

I am glad to see that this resolution advocates and advises an in­ dependent union. independent oi"the com­ panies, i11depcnde11t o!' any Government. independent of any party. \Veil, what is there to disagn:e with? We merely suggest lo the loggers of this country that thl'y con, sider wh,H !s best to be done, form a new union which will create harnH111Y- \Ve arc all !ium<m beings. I !annony can, he worked out, with moder;1tion, with a strong, calm iiurpose.

Ir this cam J>aign t:') c1Hl tl1is un !\Jr~ tunate business cm be c;.1n1ed forward with wisdom, with moderation with a strnng, calm purpose, \\"t~ wi_ll y~t h_a\T peace, har­ mony, goodwill and_1ust1n.: 111 tlus cmmtry. .\10TION: That tfos resolution he reu.•ived and adoptt·d. Premier Smallwood: Could we have a standing note, Mr. Speaker? (All members, on both sules of the house, stood). Mr. Speaker: I declare the motion unanim­ ,rnsly GIJTied: Mr. Smallwood: .\tr. Speaker, I believe that concludes tlw business of the day. I would therefore move the adjournment.

I am wondering if my hon.' friends opposite would help me in this matter. r\Iy thought is to a(\journ until today week. In all ordinary circumstances, adjournment is taken for two or three days anyhow, to enable the members of the, Op1;osition to study the Speech from the Th ronc and prcpa1 e, do their research and prepare their material. I thought, perhaps we might adjourn until today week. Then it occurred to me that in view of all the cinumstances it might be more prudent to adjourn to the call of the Chair, so that Mr.

Speaker, could \Vith frllr• m:ss lo the t\Icmbers call the House to~ get her, say with a day's notice. There just might be the necessity for that kind of ac~ tio11. My hon. friend, the Le,iderofthe Op­ position, nods I take it, therefore, he and his rnlkaguc!i are agreeable to that? Mr. Hollett: I just ,vonder if the hon. the Premier could set a limit? Mr. Smallwood: Not in any case more than a week. I propose to leave in the morning for Grand Falls and expect to be absent mvsell" in Central Newfoundland for a m;mber of days, consulting with the unions out there, the lrnions there now.

So it would be inconvement in the ordinary course for me to attend here. I know iny first duty is here. When the house is in session, nothing should take the place o!' the house or any ?vfcmbcr of' it.. Nevertheless. if it suits the conn.:nience orthc house we might .adjourn to the tall of the Chair, not later than one week from today. Mr. Speaker: The motion is that this house do ;1djourn at 1hc call or the Chair for a pctfoc,l of not longer than one week from today, T\-Iotion carried.

The house at its rising then adjourned until the call of the Chair, for a period not longer than one week from today, Monday, March :Z, 1959 {Afternoon Session) The house met at three o'clock. MlL SPEAKER IN THE CHAIR: PRESENTING PETITIONS; Hon. J. R. Chalker (Minisler of Public Works): Mr. Speaker, 1 beg leave to present_ a petition on behalf of the residents of Lomond, Rocky Harbour, Rocky Point, Rocky Cove and vicinity. The petitioners pray, Sir, that a road be constructed from Necdy's Harbour to Lomond thereby eliminating the present crossing by {Crry, which is essential at this time.

Thcv also sav, Sir, that the cost. of the ferry is exc~ssive ar{d that it is dangerous and somewhat.similar to

24 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS the Bel! Island situation, that in winter time the tickle there between \Voody Point and Bonne Bay freezes over and people of the northern part of the district have no access to the main highway there. I have much pleasure, Sir, in tabling the petition, and ask that it be forwarded to the Department to which it relates. On motion petition received for referral to the department to ·which it relates. Hon. F.W. Rowe {t\finister of Highways): l\-fr. Speaker, i beg leave to present. a pcti~ tion from Sops Arm and Jacksons Arm in the District. of White Bay South.

This pcti~ tion asks for the erection of a bridge across t.hc Sops River, linking up the road which now goes to the bottom of Sops Arm with the road almost com pletcd, to join up the two settlements of Sops Arm and Jacksons Ann. The house may be aware, I\fr.

Speaker, that several years ago Bowater's c:onstructcd a considerable number of woods roads in the Great Northern Penin­ sula, and that made it 1mssih!c for the GoY~ crnmcnt. and Department of Highways to link up the people settled in 1hc botlom of Sops Arm and several smaller sculements, and Sops River, a very important river, with a very large Yolwne of water coming down there in the spring of the year and in the fall of r.he vear.

The residents of this area feel that a f'erry would not be practical, as there would he some weeks durng the win!ert.imc when it would not be possible to use the ferry in the ice, 1,,..J1ile it would not be possi­ ble w cross on the ice as the ice would not he firm enough. I have much pleasure, Sir, in supporting the pditinrL It is my hope, ~fr. Speaker, that the Department of Highways will find il possi~ b!c to make a survey of that rive rt his year.

I feel that. the building of such a bridge would have an important rel,1lionship to the whole economy of that area and, among other things, facilitate the pass{1gc of persons wanting to go down that portion of White Bay and the Great Northern Peninsula and would surely increase the tourist industry and have the cftCct of opening up streams and other resources lo tourists as well as to people who might be interested in economic development of one kind of another.

I be!{ leave, Sir, to present the petition and ask that it be referred lO the department to which it relates, On motion petition received for referral to the department to which it relates. NOTICES OF MOTION; Hon. L.R. Curtis (Attorney General): Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the hon. the r..Jinister of finance, who is not here, l would ask leave to table the Public Accounts, and re­ quest permission of the house that they be printed. Mr. Speaker: A6rrced Mr.

Curtis: I glve notice, Mr, Speaker, I will on tomorrrnv ask leave to introduce a Bil!, "An Act to Protect the Public Interest in the Present Emergency." ORDERS OF THE DAY LEGISLATION: Second Reading of a Bill,"

An Act lo :\mend the Labour Relations An". Hon. LR. Curtis (Attorney~General): may say, ?-.fr. Speaker, in asking to have this order deferred, that some of the bills are at the printers and others arc still under con­ sideration, and so, under the circurnst.ances, I would ask that the order be deferred until tomorrow.

On motion, second reading of this Bill de­ ferred: Honourable the Attorney-General asks leave to inlroducc a Bill," An Ad to Prohibit Secondary Boycotts." On motion Bi!l read a first time and ordered read a second time on tomorrow: Honourable the Attornev~Gencral asks leave to introduce a Bill, "A;1 Act to Prohibit General Strikes." On motion Bill read a first time, ordered read a second time on tomorrow, Mr. Curtis: I move, Mr. Speaker, that the housedoalUourn until tomorrow, Tuesday, at. thrce~</clock.

At. the same time, Sir, I might say for the benefit of the members that, if we find \Ve are not ready to proceed, I will try to notiry the members, in which event the Speaker can, if he will. adjourn the house for lack of quorum ~ but I would hope that we would be ready to proceed.

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 25 On motion the house adjourned until to­ morrow, Tuesday, at three o'clock. Tuesday, March :1, 1959 {Aft.et noon Session) The house met at three o'dock. \fr. Speaker in the Chair. Presenting Petitions: Mr. M. Whalen (Harbour i\Llin - Bell Is­ land): Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to present a petition from the people of' Brigus Junc­ tion, The prayer of this petition is for the pro\'ision of electri( ity to that settlement.

One particular point, I think, should be considered, ML Speaker, in relation to this petition: the people of .Br!gus Junction,. or most of them, work within the Canadian National Railway, and they arc obliged to have their homes in that central location, or at. !ca5t somewhere near the railway station. It would be impractical and almost impossi­ ble for them to take advantage of' the scheme of centralization or otherwise move to a locality where they would ha\'c these facilities, For that reason, Mr.

Speaker, I wish to support the prayer of this petition. [ ask that it. be laid on the table of the house and referred to the department to which it relates. On motion petition received for referral to the department to which it relates. Mr. Malcolm Hollett (Leader of the Opposition): ~fr. Speaker, I support the prayer ol the petition. I wonder if I could get some information as to just what hap~ pens, What is the point of petitioning the Government? Have the Government the power or facilities to give electricity to any place, or just ,vhat is done in that conncc~ tion?

I [ail to sec how the Government Gm do it, unless they can persuade the power companies to put in that electricity. What procedure is adopted on petitions such as that? I just rise to ask for that information. Mr. Speaker: Perhaps that may be more properly answered when I call the Orders of' the Day. Reports of Standing and Select Commit• tees: Hon. W.J. Keough 1 (Minister of Mines and Resources): Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to table the annual report of the Department or Mines and Resources. Notice of Questions: Mr. Ho!lctt gives notice of questions. ORDERS OF THE DAY Hon. L.R. Curtis (Attorney-General): ~fr.

Speaker, my hon. friend the Leader of the Opposition asked a question a minute or two ago to which I think l can t,"'ive an ans~ wer. As he knows, we have two boards in Newfrrnndland governing electricity and the supplying of electricity. One is, of course, the Board of Public Utilities, which can, if it secs fit, require an existing com­ pany to go into ;:i settlement, if it is econorni­ rnlly feasible fr>r the company to go into that sett.lement.

In a neighbourhood, for in~ stance, which has electricity passing through it, if it is economically feasible the Board of Public Utilities will instruct the company to bring electricity to the people in that. place. As my hon. friend knows, there is also the Power Commission, recently set up, which is doin~ much in the way of planning substantial long~distance electrical services.

If an application or a petition comes from a locality which is nowhere near an existing line, but will re(ptire a transmission line, the Power Commission will look into it, theck the cost. and assess the situation under the Federal scheme to sec if it would qualify for inclusion in that scheme. In any event., they ,rill ~cc if power cannot be brought to that community, if necessary through subsidy by the Government. Mr. Hollett: thank the hon. the Attomey~General, Mr. Speaker. May I ask a supplementary question?

Has the Power Commission, to date, made any suggestions or recommendations to the Fedcr,d De­ partment rcle\·;:rnt to any areas? Mr. Curtis: I am sorry, 1\fr. Speaker, I am unable to answer that question. The Board of Public Utilities is responsible to me, the

26 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS -Pmvcr Commission to tlic :vtinistcr ol F,{nnomir Dcn.:lopmcn!, I am qrntc sure my hon. !'riend will repeat that question on an early on:asion, when he will get an answer. NOTICE OF MOTION: Hotl. the Attorney General asked leave to introduce a Bil!. ·\,\n Act.to Pmtcct the Pub~ !ir Interests in the Present Emergency,'' On motion Bill read a first time, ordered read a scrond time on tomorrow: Mr.

Curtis: '.\Jr, Speaker, I would move 1ha1 the remaining: orders o!' the day do siand dc!Crn:d, and that the house at l!s rising a<\jomn until tomorrow, Wednesday, al thn:e o'clock. 1 might say, for the sakl' of the Opposition and for the s;lkc of 1!ie members on both sidcsoft!w House, I hope tomorrow !hat we v,:i!l be able 10 proceed with some of lhc ·'seumd readings," There are four of them 011 the Order Paper. The Gm-cnw1enl is definitely ready in the case of one of them.

So, I expect that, by tomorrow, we ,vii! he able !o scn!e down and do some business. 1 might say, we could !Jave asked you no!. to sit loday,\lr. Speaker. We cotdd have read t.lic hili we have read a !lrst time on tomorrow, hu! i think it is better if things follow the normal course. The rules provide l(_ff firs1. reading one day and second reading the next. For tha1 reason, at gn.'<H incon\-eni­ enu:', I know, to some, we han: opened today. I hope tomorrow we will be ready !o proceed. l expect lhe Premier wi!! be here, loo.

On moiion, ,ill remaining Orders of the d.av do stand deferred: · On molion, the House ar Jts rising ad­ jom ned until tomorrow, Wednesday, at three o'docL \Vednesdar, \-!arcl1 -1, ! D59 {:\flen;oon Session) The house me! at three o'dotk. Mr. Speaker in the Chair: VISIT OF HER MAJESTY: Hon. J.R. Smallwood (Premier): ~Ir. Speaker, I beg to inform the House of the general character ol the forthcoming visit of Her ?vl;,~jcsty the Queen of this Prm-inre. I kr '.\.L~jcsty, auompanied, as the House knows, by Prince Philip, will arrive at Tor­ bay Airport in! he afternoon.

From 'Torbay Airpon Her ;\f;_~jcsty ·wll! drive through the City 1)fSL John's on her way lo Gon:niment House, drh-ing ,·ia Le\f:an.:liant Road, Cornwa!! ,hcnuc, down the Road De Luxe, along Waterford Bridge Road, and New Gower Stn'el or \\'alcr Street lo Govern­ ment I--Jouse. She will arrive at Governmetll I-louse, presumalily, ab,utan hour af'tershc has bnded at Torbay Airport On the following forenoon, Friday, the 19th., I--Ier M,~jesty will hold a reception at Gon:rnmcnt I-louse for about an hour. slarllng at IO a,rn.

It is Her ~.J~1jest,y's Co\'crnment's hope, in this Province that she will I hen han; t !ic opportunity of greet­ ing numbers of' people who will come for ! he purpose t1J St" Jo!m's from vari11us parts of the Prnvinte, At the conclusion of this rcteption, Her ~Ia~ jcsty will then driu: lo the new Conkdcra- 1ion Building lo perform a tc1-cmo11y there, and then proceed to the Airport. lo enplane for Gander. Her appl';irance in SL John's, therdfire, will consist of drl\'ing from the airport al Torbay through the part of the diy tfoit I hayc mentioned.

It is ihe hope ol Her \I;~jesty\ Ministers In Nc\vfoumlland. 1hat is, f-Icr l'vi.desty's Covcrnmen!, to ar­ range !h,H cYcry possible opportunity be i,.,,'1H'll lo the people not only ofSt.Jolrn's but of those parts of Newfoundland whid1 lie reasonably close lo St. John's to see Her ?\L~jcsty and Pnncc Philip, and to greet her and show !heir fr-clings and loyalty to her, wi1l1 a special and a very special cmp!1asis on an opportunity being 1-,'lven to the children, the younger generation of NnvfoundlamL Her Mc~jesty will !eave Torbay by the same jct aircraft that brings her from! he United Kingdom, for Ga1Jdcr.

She will arrive at Gander at 1 :0_() p.m, Friday. She will drive 1hrough the Town oJ Gander, where the people and again the children particularly, in so far as Her M;~jesty's '.\·[inistcrs Glll ar~ range, in friendly lOliaboration with the au­ thorities at. Gander, will be given an oppor­ tunity to greet their \.lonard1. From Gander Her ;\-lajesty and the Prince will proceed by ain.:raft to Deer Lake. In Deer Lake, again with the help of the local authorities, Her :'i.·L!jcsty's \.Iinistcrs are en-

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 27 deavouring to arrange I hat !he whole of the population. not only of Deer Lake hut of all the places nearby, im luding the great area of SL Barbe's district. at k'ast that pan nfit which hy ! hen will he open to Deer Lake hy road, will !J:ive an opportunity 10 greet Her ;\fa.Jc.sty and the Prince. Again, f say. special emphasis ,vi!l he placed on providing an opporl 1mity for !he thildren 1Jf that

part 1)1 Newfoundland to grccl their Queen.

From Deer Lake 1hc Queen will drive by road lo Corner Brook and in Corner Brook will lour thcLitv for abnol an l1mir ;1nd ba\T a good oppon\mity lo sec the supcrlatindy beautiful city of 1hc west nusL Again the emphasis will be plated upon giving !he 1wopk and c:-qwci;illy 1!ic children ample opportunity to see and !o grcc! our Monanl1, From Corner Brook, the Queen will pro~ ceed hy car back oHT the Deer Lake High­ way to Strawberry l·li!l, Ncwft)Unfl!an(l ho~nc of Sir Eric Iiowa!cr, and one of the most beautiful homes in Canada. r!1CH' Her Majesty wi!! spend ihe C\'l'lling and night of that day, Friday, On the following morning, Sa!urday, Her M:~jesty and the Prince will drive from Strawberry I-ii!! by car at 9'.;

H) for !he airport at D<icr Lak~. From Deer Lake Airpor! they will cnplam:,by the same pbnc that brings them from Gamier !o Deer Lake, to I Lm11on Fidd. At J·Iannon Fldd l-lcr \'l;!jcsiy will he drin:n at omc on arrival to Slcphenvilk and thmugh the Town of Stephcnvilic back lo the airporl. lea\·ing \' c1sfoundbnd at noon on Sarnrday for her m.·xt s!np wh!( h is in Sd1cfferYillc, bencr known to mo.st o! u.s a.s Knob Lake in Newfoundland ;md (ludwr Labrador where m: liopc she ;md the Pr~ inrc ,rl!l an opportunity to see the great iron ore dcvdopmcnl pn..'sen!ly car~ ricd on by the Iron Ore Company o!

Canada, and al the same iimc to r!v<n-er t!1c great ( ~rand Falls of Labrador, r{ow more general!v known as l iamilton Falls, ~\t Camier Her M~(jesty will open the IJC\\. terminal. !lie great nc\\· air terminal I l1a1 has been bni!t by the Gon:rnmcnl of (·:anad;i m-cr the pasi. couple or 3 yt.'ars So 1ha1 the onlr form;d functions that the Om:cn will pcr,form while on the Newfounrf!and part (if lier Ca11adia;1 lo_ur will ,he t!ic ,11\).cni:1g '.)f the great new Con!cdcra!!oIJ Bmlr mg w St.

John's and the opening of the great nnv Federal Air Terminal at Candee For the rest of her visit to this Province it will be extremely simpk, merely consisting of dr'JY~ ing through the stiu.:!s of SL John's, Can» dcr, Deer Lake, Corner Brook and S1cphcnd!le. At these places ii is bdievcd thai enormous numbers of Newfoundbn» dcrs cm congrcg-atc, cw nmw to meet heL People from tl1c whole of tl1c AYa!(l!l Pen in-" sula, witho111 a doubt, will be present on that on:asion ;I! SL John's.

At Gander, people from the whole of Bonavista Bay, a large part ol' Trinity Bay, all of Notre Dame Bay HH.llldiug the grca! town ol Cram! Falls and of course the towns of Lewisponc. Bot­ wood, Windsor, Bishop's Falls, Badger, Bw_hans and S!l! lngd.i!e, aml most of Notn: Dame Bay and expc< ially Green Bay can he p1 escn! a! (;;rnder, l tshou!d he! he great es!, inrnmpaVi1bly ihe greatest, congrcga1ion oi jK'11p!e t!1,11 {;ander has ever seen.

Similarly at Deer Lake. ~01 only the people of Deer Lake and Howley and othe1 lo>vn.s nt'arby, but the people of the whole of the coast nr mos! oftlw mast oLSL Barbe will be ahlc lo go by mad and c1mstitu1e the greatest as­ semblv of Newfoundlanders enT known in lliat g;-c,it west (oast tmn1 of Dcvr Lake, Al Comer Bronk. not alone the :?:1.000 pcopk who constitute our second citv but all the people from or Islands, tl~c Crear Ba} of isla!lds, ·will have arnp!e and easy oppor* t1111ity to greet the Queen and Prince 011 th;il memorable ocraslon. ·n1cn, firn!lv, at S1c1ihcnYillc it win be (jllitc feasible 110! only for the people ol Stt:p!wnvi!!c, that grc,11 western tmrn, to greet I-ler '"''"'"' but lhc \\'hole, I say; the whole, of ibe grca! area knm;..-n, in this house at least, as the Pon au Basques distri{! and that C\Tll greater area geographically known here fn us at SL Ce01·gc's district, and a \Try !ai ge par! of the population of the area known to us in ibis house as the district o!' Bnrgco*L1Poill' ran, wi1ho11t doubt, drive by car or bus to Ste p!ienYillc to ex prcs.s l heir loyal g1 cctings !O Her Majesty.

So 1ha1, .\lr. Speaker, when SL John's, Gan­ der, l.kcr Lake, Corner Brook and Stcphern-i!lc, these fin: towns at which Her '.'\L;jcs1y will \'!sit, arc taken !ogether a! least tw(Hhin!s of the people of Ne\dinmdhnd should he able to sec and gn:ct the Queen on 1!.1c occ1s!rn1 ()f IH.T !(inh{'oming visit this commg SlllllllJCL Om; tlnal word: Her l\-t~jcsty's ;\Iinis!ers in

28 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS Newfoundland, that is to say, the Govern~ mcnt of Newfoundland, for obvious reasons, l1ave not had the sole decisions as to what Her M,~jesty's visit should be in the Province.

The desire of Her M<ticsty's Ministers in any case of the 9 provinces must, obviously, fit into the overall Cana~ dian pattern as laid down by Her Majesty's Ministers in Right of Canada, that is to say Her l\J.~jesty's Canadian Ministers, the ~finistcrs for al! of Canada as against Her M.:~jcsty's Ministers for each individual one for the 9 Provinces, or IO Provinces. (I for­ got that we were a Province of Canada) - I do not n.:ry often forget that. I appreciate fully the point my hon. friend made - I do not often forget that Newfoundland is a Province of Canada. Mr.

Speaker, l am sure that nobody envies the task of the Government of Canada in exercising an overriding control over Her l\l;_~jesty's movements in Canada. Can~lda is not just Canada. Canada is l O provmces, and Her ~Iajesty has :'\·linisters in each one of these ten 'pnH"inces. And it is the duty of Fler 1\.-I~jesty's ~-Iinisters in each Province to advise Her l\-lajesty on her ~-1.~jesty's move­ ments in that Province; but obviously there must be a common clc.1ring house for Canada as a whole, and that clearing house is the Gon.-:rnment of Canada.

So that over recent weeks my colleague, the hon, l\-Iinis­ ter of Public Works, (Mr. Chalker) id10 has been in charge or this work, has had to col­ laborate very closely with the Fcdc1-,.d au­ thorities, as his counterparts in the other 9 Provinces of Canada ha\'e had to do, so that a plan for all Canada can be de\'eloped, with the co-operation and consent and ad\'ict; of Her M,tjesty's Minister of Canada in trymg to reconcile for Canada, as a whole, the de~ sires and demands of Her M<\jesty's Minis­ ters in all IO Provinces.

But l think when it is remembered that this reconciliation has to be made, our desires, as Her Majesty's Gov­ ernment in Newfoundland, our desires, with the over-a!! requirements of the Gov~ crnrncnt of Canada, - I think it will be agreed that this is t.hc best arrangement that could have been made. Notice of Question: ~Ir. G. Rex Renouf (St.

John's South) ghes notice of questions on tomorrow: ORDERS OF THE DAY LEGISLATION: (WOODS LABOUR I.W.A.) Second reading of a Bill, "An Act to Make Provision for the Safeguarding the Public Interest in View of the Present Unsettled Conditions in the Woods Labour Part of the Pulp and Paper Industry in the Provin~e, for Decertifying Trade Unions, and for other Purposes in Connection"! Hon. L.R.

Curtis (Attorney-General): There has been a mistake made in the print­ ing of the wording, The wording was set forth on the Order Paper of yesterday - I had intended moving today that the word· ing be changed, but the wording here is not the exact wording of the amendment I propose. I would ask leave to amend the wording of the bill, to be the same as set forth in the Orders of the Day, stopping at the word Province.

The reading should be - "An Act to make provisions for safeguarding the public interest in view of the uncertain conditions in the woods labour part of the pulp and paper industry in the Province" - and the words following to be omitted. I think I should have the consent of the House to change the title. Second Reading of a Bill,

An Act to Make Provisions for Safeguarding the Public In­ terest in View of' the Present Unsettled Conditions in the Woods Labour Partofthe Pulp and Paper Industry in the Province: Hon J.R. Smallwood (Premier): Mr. Speaker, I rise to mm·e the second reading of this Bill. I would first remind Your Hon­ our, the point just made by the Attorney­ General has nothing to do ivit.h the Bill. It is only the wording of the title of the Bill on today's Order Paper. The title of the Bill itself is as it appears in this printed edition of the Bill.

The purpose of this Bill is to <lea! with the present situation in the pulp and paper in­ dustry of Newfoundland. Mr. Speaker, be~ fore I come to the actual details of the Bill, in so far as I am allowed to deal ,,..ith the details of the Bill in the second reading, I think I should first report to the house, briefly, and only briefly, on the events of the past week or so in Central Newfi.rnndland. 'The day after the House (that. is tlie opening day on which the House unanimously ad~)pted a measure condeming the I WA) I

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 29 went to Grand Falls. I arri\"ed there at 2 p.m. In Grand Falls I was in conference with officers of practically all of the unions, not all but practically all of the unions operating in Central Newfoundland. I may say, Mr. Speaker, in passing, that all but one union operating in Central Newfoundland arc locals or international unions. The one ex­ ception is the Longshoremen, a union in Bot.wood. That is a purely local union, af­ filiated, I believe, with nothing, not even, I think, with the Newfoundland Federation of Labour.

It is almost exactly similar to the Longshoreman's Union in the City of St. John's, in that they arc purely and ,Yholly a Newfoundland local union affiliated with nothing. But ,vith that one exception, all the unions with which I met were Newfound­ land locals, local lodges or local branches of international unions. I am thinking at the moment of such international unions as the International Brotherhood of Pulp, Sul­ phite and Paper rvtill Workers, of which I was once a paid organizer.

Indeed, it was as an organizer and employee of this brothera hood that I came t.o Newfoundland and reorganized local 63 at Grand Falls and or­ ganized Local 64 at Corner Brook. The pre­ sent International President of that Brotherhood is a very close friend of my own, J.P. Burke. He is one of the most highly respected labour leaders in the whole of the United Skates; a man: I bclie\·c, who could have been President of the United States Federation of Labour when William Green was elected, had he been rerresent­ ing a union of greater internationa impor­ tance in the United States.

The Brother­ hood of Paper Makers, since my active days in the movement, has acquired a new name. It used to be called the International Brotherhood of Paper rvtakers. Since then it has amalgamated with another union of paper makers and is now known as the Un­ ited Brotherhood of Paper Makers - and something else - but it means practically the same thing. The International Brother­ hood of Electrical Workers, the Interna­ tional Association of Machinists, the Inter~ national Union or Brotherhood (I forget which) or Association of Office \Norkers.

These are the 5 that operate within the pulp and paper mill at Grand Falls. In addition there are still other locals of international unions: The International Union or Brotherhood or Association ( I forget which) of Retail Clerks. That is the shop and clerks, warehouse clerks, and the Interna­ tional Brotherhood, Union or Association of Hod Carriers (I do not remember which) - and so it goes. I sat with representatives of these bodies, officers of these bodies who were there as­ sembled in the hall to meet me and greet me as as I went in. We sat and discussed the whole situation in Central Newfoundland.

I \Vas not only impressed, but profoundly so, by the completely unshakable character of the determination of those men not to have anything to do with the LW.A. not to sup­ port them in any shape or form. They were adamant, they were unflinching, they were implacable, they were implacable in their determination to have nothing to do with the L W.A. I have never seen a body of men, trade union men, officers and leaders, in my life so determined about anything as they were to oppose the I. W.A. They regard the L \-V.A. as an unqualified menace to them and their families.

Now the proof of that was seen a day or so later when they were all called together in one meeting at which I was not. present, a meeting of the Central Newfoundland Dis­ trict L1hour Council, at which delegates had been elected to constitute this district. Council delegates from Buch ans to Gander appeared. Note especially, they were the regularly elected delegates. ·n1ey had not been elected just for that meeting. They were the regular delegates, the men who constituted that council.

They met and were addressed by a special repreSent.ative of the Canadian Labour Congress who had come to Newfoundland about this strike. I think his name was Rose. Mr. Rose spoke for the Canadian Labour Congress to these union delegates, those officers, those representa~ tivcs of all the unions of Central Newfound­ land from Gander to Buchans, including Grand Falls, Botwood and Buchans. He told them that they had to obey the Cana~ dian Labour Congress. They had no choice. They simply had to obey the orders sent out by the Canadian Labour Congress, They had to support the I. W.A. They had no choice.

Their's· not to reason why. The C.L.C. had sent out the order to all interna~ tional unions - "Support the I. \V.A."They had no choice. One man, representing one union, stood and said: "Mr. Rose, am I to understand

30 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS fio111 yo11, frnn1 the Canadian Labour Co11- grcss,.am 1 to understand a11d ismy union iO understand that we hd\C no d10uc in this ni;111cr?'' Tfo.: answer was: ''Right. You !i,nc 110 dt!1ice." ":\1n J li> undc1st.1ml I !iat we j11s! haYc to ohcv whether KC like H. or not?" Ilic ans\fcr was': "You have to obcr, ,vhethcr you like it or not.'' -·n1e questio~1 was then asked by him: ''Suppose \\T do not agree with th~ methods used, the breaking o! laws, the nolcrn:e, the mob-rule? If we do nol <.wrce with these, h.nT \\·c still got to obcv ~1e C LC?'' l-le ,us told bv Mr.

Rose: "Yo·u !ian: !o obey the C,LC, You h,Fc no Lhoicc bw to obey. Then !ha! dclcgaic said: "In that case [ will walk out of this meeting and, with me. my union goes from this unmtiL" And he walked out, A suond man got up, reprcs~ enting another union. He said: "I will also walk ouL We are not t,1king that.·· And be also walked out. A th!ld man, representing­ ,1 third union got up and said the same and \\"alked out, and a fourth and a fifth and sixth and sn·enth and eighth and ninth. :\'inc unions walked out, and that was the end of that counciL That was the end. "The secretarv of the Council, '.\Ir.

Fred Grimes, said bef;ne he walked out - "Well. gentle~ men, of course this is the end of this council. It has 110 quorum. It is disbanded," and he walked ouL Thal left the reprcsentatiYcs of 3 unions remaining at the meeting. A day or so Liter the Canadian Labour Congress an~ nounced they had disbanded the District Labour Cou1'icil. "fhcv had done no such thing, They (the unions of the District Labour Coum:il) had disbanded it thcm­ scl\'es. 1 found that the people of Grand Falls arc 99% opposed to the L \\'.A,, or 99.99%. "fhc same thing applies to Windsor, the Town of Windsor and the Town of Borwood.

Gan­ der is <1hout 95% opposed to the L \V.A. and has been, not only today as I am speaking here this afternoon bu! has been opposed, unahcrably, to the I. W.A.

So I announced on Satunl;;y past that loggers \\"ho wished to form -·~ loggers who were against. the L \\'.A,, loggers, remember, loggers who were ag-ainst the L W.A. and wished to form a new logger's union were invited to come to the Tmrn H,11! in Grand Falls to hold a meeting. ln the hall and on the platform were officers of all the mil! unions and of­ ficers of 3 or 0 1 or 5 01her unions, interna~ tional unions who were not es!ab!ishcd lll­ .<.idc the mill. nor p;11 to! l he fin: mi!! unions, .<io r..i!!ed, 'They sat on! he platform, and thq tH:re amongs! the 10 men who sat at IO ddTercnt !ables to llelp the loggers !ill ol!I their ;1pplk,1tion Jonns to join the new union tbdt was lonncd, These men, inci~ dental!r, were intwduced 10 the audience bv me, "bv 1ume, and I named their unions. :\11d rn t'lieir behalf I pledged their warm support and aelin.' practical help to the new union, In their name I pledged that to the loggers. ~fay l say in passing, ~lr.

Speaker, and the House will note this with considerable in~ terest: 011c of the troubles in the past, up to now. up to Saturday, has been the fact that tht,• mil! unions, the organi1ed \forkers in and around the mi!!, hare not taken too much interest. in the loggers. The loggers have rather been left to themseh-es by the mill unions. And I beline sincerely today r.hat the mill unions in Grand ,Falls, realiz; now that. it would kne been better for all concerned, for Newfoundland, for Grand Falls, If they had taken a more brotherly interest, a more patriotic interest, in the loggers than they had taken in the past.

So it was frir me (I being merely the catalyst, no­ thing but the go-be!wcen, nothing but the per.son ro start the ball rolling) and as one who started the ba!l rolling, I was charmed and ddightt:d to be able to say to these log­ gers - "Brothers, from here to these log­ going Lohan: the guidance, the advise, the practical help of the unions in Grand Falls.

You are all "·or king frn the same employers, you are all working for the same industry, and it will he good for Newfoundland, it will be good for the industry and it ·will be good for all who work in the industry if the mill unions and loggers union puil together, doscly \rnrking together." Because the House will appreciate, Sir, that my purpose is to get out of this, get it planned and bow out, get the union going and step aside, get the loggers union luunched and flourishing and then return to my parliamentary duties, with C\'ery other parliamentarian in this Chamber.

So lhat the one 1hing which was needed was for the nH)peration, acti\'e, ardent, sirn:ere, and n~rv sincere offer of help from the unions in draml Falls to their brother Newfoundlanders in the ,nmds. I ha,T held many, many meetings in the Town Hall of Grand Falls, I ha\'e held at

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 31 least 50 meetings in that Town Hall, in rny life. I have never seen a mccting that C\·cn bcg,m to compare with that meeting on Saturday afternoon. Hundreds of loggers {800) were jammed and crowded and ( ramped inside those four walls. It was un~ lawful, against the rules or safety. The plat­ ford was crowded The main lloor was crowded. The galleries were crowded, and between the rear wall, facing rhc platform and outside the wall facing the street it was c:rowdcd and there were HOO in t.l1c hall.

The only men in that haH who were not. loggers were mysdr (and I am a logger of sorts but not f he kind of logger that forms the union) - on-' son was there and !here were dcrks, all r)cop!c I had there, -- ~Ir. Greg O'Cr;idv, :\-Ir. Elmer Valer;;, '.\fr. Walter Carter (rnrn the Premier's Of ficc and there was a fourth one whose name I do not re­ member at the moment, and Mr. William Adams the lawyer. and Mr. Max Lane. That is all there were in the hall. On the platform \\ere the rcprcscntati\-es ol' thcGrand Falls unions, and except for these, nery man in the hall was a practical logger.

No one else was allowed in the hall. There was only one entrance, one door, and there were a couple of men inside the door to ask questions of C\'cry m;m who came in - ''Arc you a log­ ger?"" Are you comingtojoin the union?" If the answer was, "no", to either one of these questions he was not allowed in. It was just a ~ogger's meeting. It was not a public meet­ mg. Outside the hall there \n:re a number of loggers that could not get in the hall.

It was estimated (and the house is familiar ,vith estimates of numbers of men who attend public meetings or who were oYerf1owing audiences and who cannot get in) ;md l think a realistic estimate, at 300outsidc who could not get into the hall. About 150 of these were taken m.Toss High Street, to the opposite side of the st1 eet up into the lmion oi fice and signed up, And we only managed to get about half of them, so that it is quire clear there were 300 and there were 2,000 other people on the street. They say that neH:r in Grand Fall's history were there so many people gathered tog<cther at one time.

Tl1ey were crowded on the main street of Grand Falls right around in front of that 'Town Hall. If it had been an outdoor public meeting we would have had J,000 to, 4,000 people. l may say in passing, the L W,A. called a meeting for the same hour, 2:.':W p.m.

Saturday, at Bishop's Falls, in the Roman Catholic Ass.emblv Hall; the same assemhlv !;all nw hon. !ric;1d, the .\Iinister of >.line~ and R'csource!-i and mv hon. fnend, the l\tinlster or Educ;11ion aL'.companied me and my son, in the holding of a meeting a fr?\\ months ago, last spring, at the time of the Federal election, We are very familiar with th;H hall. \\'e had movies ta,ken ol it, and these movies were shown on television. We are vcn: familiar with that ha!L lf,;ou could gel 2[1() persons 11110 !hat hall you-could get 250,000. \\'c know the ha!L We are faml!iar with it.

So that they mon:d outdoors and held an outdoor p~iblic meeting, a public meeting remember, a public meeting, to which anyone who cared could come, ;my* one whoSon-er would might come. Nov,: I talked with another ecclesiastic, not nearly so high. who went to sec what the meeting was like, and I talked to at least IO persons of high credibility, i.e. h i~h ly representative persons. and they all est11nated that the big meeting held outdoors ran between 500 and GOO persons, men, women and chi!~ dren,about 500 or GOO souls at tl1at meeting-. The Attomey~Gencral (:\Jr.

Curtis) tele­ phoned meat Grand Falls and infonrn:d me (he docs not know I am going to say this, and l hope I am not speaking out of turn in telling this) the Attorney~Gencral tcle* phoned me at Grand Falls and informed me that an ofrici,11 estimate of the number at the meeting of loggers, the number of loggers at that meeting, was 200. That was the offi~ cial estimate. [ \viii not spell out what I mean by official, but the house knmvs what I mean when l got it from the Attorney General. \Vl1cn I was in Graml Falls I was Yer-ye.ireful to keep my di.stance from the R.C.l\i. P. I did not go near the R.C. :,.1.

P. nor the rnahrisr rate nor anyone like that-200 loggers! I heard a very truthful gentleman announce that there 1200 loggers at the meeting. not counting the others and not counting the women; 200 that is the number, and they came from as far away as Deer Lake. They had to be brought from as for west as Deer Lake, and Deer Lake is a long distance west from Badger, and from Bonne Bay even, to gather as much as 200 together. Henri Bar­ buse, the great noYclist said: "The first casualtv of war is truth.'' It is the very first thing ti1at dies. '

32 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS Mr.J.D. Higgins (St.John's East): All wars? Hon. Premier: In all wars the first thing that dies is truth. That applies to trade un­ ions, civil wars - 200 loggers became l 200. In addition to the 800 loggers who came inside the hall in Grand Falls Saturday (all of whom joined). In addition to these 800 at least I 00 of those 800 came up through the centre aisle to the platform and handed in lists of names of men from their various settlements who wished to join, together with SI for each of those men. That was pretty convincing.

There were as many as 50 men at one time standing waiting their turn to hand in the names with the money. In addition to that, telegrams came in all that day before the meeting, that morning, Saturday morning, and several times dur­ ing the meeting a telegraph messenger boy came from the C.N.T. right up through the centre aisle and handed me a wad of tele­ grams, which I must confess I would open and read out, 30, 40, 70 names; l 17 names, 10 names, 2 names, I name - I would read them all out and all would be greeted by cheers from the audience.

And before Saturday \Vas over even, there were l ,800 loggers ·who joined the ne\v brotherhood, 1,800. That has never been seen before in the history of this island. Never did any union get born in one day with 1800 mem­ bers. That makes it at its very birth, at its ve~y birth, one of Newfoundland's biggest umons. Now, today is \Vednesday and the number is somewhere bcnveen 3,000 and 4,000 members. Tirnt is a long way from the 20,000 members it will reach. It won't reach the 20,000 mark for months to come, and maybe not before the fall.

But, Mr.Speaker, on the day that the strike took place there were 1200 men in the ,vc.10ds. So that it is about three times as many now as there were in the woods on the <lay of the strike, now paid up in the new brotherhood. The number who voted in connection with the strike was 815, of which 790 something voted for the strike and the balance of the 815 voted against the strike. The grand total number that voted was 815. The union has now more than four, closer to five, times as many men in its ranks as voted for the strike - more ~1,an that.

As I speak to you this afternoon there arc more men back at work in A.N.D. Company camps, there are more men back to work than voted frn the strike, right now this afternoon. Yesterday Cambo turned completely over - Cambo, iviiddle Brook, Dark Cove, Indian Bay, Wareham, Hare Bay, Clovcrtmvn - Yesterday the loggers themselves went back to ,vork, the picketers went back to work, the picket lines signed up and went back to work. Gambo turned completely over to the new union, and went back to work yesterday, Tuesday. and more of them went back again today.

In Terra Nova yesterday, I think, there were 140 men, in one slap, who went back to work. The I. W.A. is finished in Central Newfoun<lland, not completely finished but on the way out, not completely gone but on the way, in Central Newfoundland. Mr. Speaker, this strike in Central Neww foundlan<l could have been en<lcd quite eas~ ily six weeks ago by the Government. My hon. friends in this House are entitled to ask, if that is so why did the Government end that strike six \Veeks ago, and I would say that the people of Newfoun<lland are entitled to ask the same question. The I.

W.A. were certified to be the bargaining agent of the loggers, that is, those loggers who worked for the A.N.D. Company, They were certified by the Labour Relations Board. The house will recall that that was done as a result or a secret ballot, a vote taken by mail. The Labour Relations Board, \vhich is often called a "government board" but which is not a government board, sent the ballots through the mail, and they were received back and counted, and as a result the I. W.A. were certified as the bargaining agent of t.he A.N.D. Company loggers, There is no question about that. They were certified.

Th is was some months ago. That was lawful. That was legal. There has never been any argument about that at all. There cannot be any argument about that. They \Vere lawfully certified. The unlawful part has come since. But, Sir, the strike vote was taken not by the Labour Relations Board - please note this - the strike vote was not taken by the Labour Relations Board. It was not taken by the government. It was taken by the I. \V.A. It was not a secret ballot. It was not taken without force, violence and threats of force and violence, Please take note of that. That i_s terribly important.

Intimidation and the threats of force succeeded in getting 815 loggers to vote. That is all - no more no less

HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS 33 --There were !:200 loggc1s in the miods al the time. 'There were ,!(){)() A.N.Il Com­ pany loggers of \Vhom ! :WO were in the woods, of whom 815 rnted. There is !he democracv 1 he full extent of the democ­ racy. The 81:, who Yotcd were not given the 1wi\·i!egc to \'otc quietly without the threat of force nor the threat oJ' n:cr!mination or punisluncnL Remember that!

And l say there has nc\Tr lu::en a strike in Newfound~ hind - nen:r ln Ncidliundland's hislor) has there been a strike so unpopular as this strike is in Central Newfoundland, thoroughly unpopular, thoroughly, [ say thoroughly unpopular - and for obvious reasons. If there are ·l.000 members of a union and 1 '.200 arc in the hush at a S,ri\"Cll moment and 800 of' them are allowed to vote, and lhcy arc not allowed a free and unhampered rntc, hO\\ can you expect it to be a popular strike?

Now of course its unpopularity was greatly accentuated by the Yiolence and the mob~ rule which ho;-rified and shocked so many of the God-fearing- Newfoundlanders ir<1 Central and Northern Newfoundland and indeed all OHT Newfoundland. A most un­ popular sl rikc. Six weeks ago we could ban: coded that strike, this Government The Attorney-General too could have ended the strike.

But remember even the Attorncv General, although he is Her M,~jest.y's pri1{­ cipal law officer in Newfoundland, he is the Queen's Legal Adviser although he is that, he is still a member of the Queen's Administt·ation and the Premier still has a little to sav in these matters and all his col* leagues h;~ve something to say too. The At­ torney General cannot. act as though he were one gon:rnment by himself, clearly, obviously,not. in the British system. And the Attorney General did not disagree in any case. I sav, we could have ended the strike in one pttr~ly simple way - enforcing the law. That is all!

We just ha<l to enforce the law. Now, that is our duty. That. is the duty of every government, to enforce the law. The first duty of a government is not to provide education nor roads nor schools nor elec­ tricity, The first duty of a government is to preserve law and order. Thar. is the firs! duty which a government. has. That. is why gm·ernments were formed since the dawn ofhistorv.

That was the first reason fr1r the first. go{·crnment, to preserve law and order, so that those who lived inside the bow1dariesof a gon:rnment could fed their lives were safe, their limbs \\'llrt.' salt: ~ safety of life and limb, After thdl, you Gm begin to have fn:t.:dom of your i:.-onsciencc._ to practice your own religion, lo follow your own beliefs, freedom ,if speech, frec{\om of assembly. But !he first right of all you are entitled to daim as a citi1e11 is that. your government will preserve law and order. That is a!l we bad to do six weeks ago, pre~ scne Lnf ,1m! order on the pk-ket lines. "ll1at is all!

I!' we had done that mud1 men in thousands, and I say agam, men In 1!1011sands, many (Jf them members of the L \V.A. and man}- of them not Let me put this on t.he record just in passing: why this was done I do !lot know, maybe the Minister of' Labour 1-\'ill some day tcll,the inside srorv. I do not know why it is, that when they to(;k t lw ballot that gave the 1-ole to the L \V .A., gaYe them lcrtification, when they took that rnte only these people were allowed to \'ote: (Who do you want to be your bargain­ ing agent?

Is it the I. \V.A. or this or that or the other ~ Who do vou want to be Your bargaining agent?) ( l) \ 0 011 had to be a' log­ ger (of course),

(2) You had to be an A.N.D. Company logger (of course, because it was to be a bargaining agent to deal with the A.N.D, Company) (:n You must have worked for the A. N.D. Company in the prc­ reding nine months. \Vhy not IO months? Why not I I months? Why not 12 months? Why was it limited only to those who had worked for the A.N.D. Company in the pre~ ceding ·nine months? Why? ls there any good answer to that question? I would like to know what it is. Why is a man who worked for the A.N.D. Company 11, 12, 10 months before barred from H>tin14. Why. Is there any good answer to that:' I would like to hear it.

Nov; secondly, not only had he to work in the previous nine months hut in these nine months he must have worked 35 days, Why not 3-1? Why not 25 days? Why not 24 days? This is a point. 2S working days, you see, is a month, taking off' Sundays and so on)­ \\'hy not 24 days:' If' he ,vorkcd a month bcf~1re the monih in question, and worked only 2·1 days in that month he was not al­ lowed to vote. The hon, Leader of the Op­ position looks doubtful, I am giving him the simple truth. This is the simple truth: If you arc a logger in the A.N.D. Company and worked for them in the previous IO months,

34 HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY PROCEEDINGS you are not allowed to vote, but if it was nine months, eight months, three months, two months and you did not work more than 25 days, more than 24 days you are not allowed to \·otc. However, the point is that out of them all there \Vere only 800 men who voted for the strike, That is why it was a very unpopular strike. It was u'npopular frm{1 the \'cry starL Of course, those who voted for it did not think it was going to last 60 odd days. They thought it ,vou!d !asta week, two davs, three days, the mere mention of a strike and thC A.N.D.

Company would sv,·oon, they would faint, come crying on their knees to l\fr. Ladd and Mr. \kCooL One day we will tell the story of r-.-tr. ~-frCool and all his previous connections, \Ve will tell thal story. We know that story of Mr. McCool and Mr. Hall (his present name ~ the name he goes by at the present time. The name he goes by since being in New~ found!ancL I know his full story.) Mr. Hollett: He comes from Halls Bay. Mr. Smallwood: No, he<loes not come from Halls Bay. Nobody in Halls Bay would be very proud of that. As E1r as I can learn, i\fr. Ladd is the best of the three of them.

In common fairness, I think we must say that. l do not think he is in a class with the other t.wo, I do not think he is quite in a class with the other tvrn. Incidcntallv, I underst<md that the lat.est devclopmc~t is that one is blaming the other now for the failure of their strike. Now, Sir, I think r.hat in time the strike ,\·ill end. It will end. By the