Debates of March 6th, 2001

This is page numbers 1543 - 1596 of the Hansard for the 14th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Changes To Fuel Rebate Program

The Protection Of Children

Nordic Skiing In The Nwt

Coordinating The Review Process For Northern Gas Development

Development Of A Social Agenda

Fort Smith Fire Abatement Program

Fort Providence Land Lease Cost Increases

Akaitcho Hall Students And Staff Reunion

Non-insured Health Benefits Dental Program

Programs To Ensure The Return Of Well-educated Young Northerners

Sustainable Health Care In Small Rural Communities

Support For Special Needs Students

Municipal Funding Formula Changes

Zero Tolerance Of Family Violence

Federal Government Commitments And Responsibilities

Muskrat Trapping Season

Recognition Of Yellowknife Volunteers

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Large-scale Lottery Licence Fees

Recommendation To Establish A Child Advocate

Health Care Delivery In The Dogrib Region

Funding For Youth Programs

Community Fire Abatement Program

Non-insured Dental Benefits

GNWT Land Pricing Policy

Increase In Land Lease Costs

Zero Tolerance For Family Violence Strategy

Dealing With Tragic Incidents In Schools

Non-insured Health Benefits

Funding Non-insured Dental Benefits

Protection Of Aboriginal Treaty Rights

Reply 4-14(3)

Bill 17:

An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act

Tabled Document 119-14(3): NWT Liquor Commission 46th Annual Report

Tabled Document 120-14(3): 2000 Annual Report, Public Utilities Board Of The Nwt

Tabled Document 121-14(3): Speech By Grand Chief Matthew Coon Come To The National Health Conference: 25 February 2001

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Pol And The Business Incentive Policy

Recommendation 1

Forecasting

To Amend Clause 3(2) Of Bill 19 (carried)

To Amend The

Schedule Of Bill 19 (out Of Order)

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Revert To Item 9: Replies To The Opening Address

Reply 5-14(3)

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Roger Allen , Honourable Jim Antoine , Mr. Bell , Mr. Braden , Mr. Delorey , Mr. Dent , Honourable Jane Groenewegen , Honourable Joe Handley , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Lafferty , Ms. Lee , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. McLeod , Mr. Miltenberger , Mr. Nitah , Honourable Jake Ootes , Mr. Roland , Honourable Vince Steen , Honourable Tony Whitford .

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Merci pour le priere, Mr. Allen . Assez vous, s'il vous plait. Bonjour, mon colleagues. Declarations de ministre. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Handley .

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Minister's Statement 73-14(3): Changes To Fuel Rebate Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased today to announce the following changes to the government's fuel rebate program.

First, provided that their combined income does not exceed $75,000, all households who are responsible for their own fuel costs will be eligible for a rebate of $320, while eligible apartment dwellers will qualify for a rebate of $150.

Second, a fifty percent rebate will now be available to households with a combined income between $75,000 and $85,000. This will provide a rebate of $160 to those living in a house and responsible for their own fuel costs and a rebate of $75 to eligible apartment dwellers. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce these changes in response to recommendations made by my colleagues in this House.

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All residents applying for the fuel rebate will be required to file a statutory declaration regarding their income and may be required to provide proof of payment for fuel.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Housing Corporation will proceed with finalizing the program and providing information to the public. Details on how to apply, eligibility criteria, the relationship of rebate to tax and income support and so on will be made available to the public shortly through a press release and extensive backgrounder.

Mr. Speaker, we hope this one-time fuel rebate will help Northerners offset the high cost of fuel we have experienced this winter. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 73-14(3): Changes To Fuel Rebate Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Merci, Minister Handley . Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Minister's Statement 74-14(3): The Protection Of Children

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to address the difficult and emotional issue of child protection.

Mr. Speaker, in October 1998, new legislation was passed to improve the way the child protection services are delivered. The Child and Family Services Act was developed following extensive consultation with a broad range of stakeholders. During these consultations, it was stated quite clearly that this act must place the real interests of the child and the well-being of families at the forefront.

Child protection work is difficult. It is hard to imagine any social worker actively seeking out an opportunity to apprehend a child unless there was a compelling reason to do so. That compelling reason, Mr. Speaker, is the need for society to intervene when children are at risk of abuse or neglect. No child in the NWT should have to live with abuse and neglect. We task social workers with taking action on our behalf when children are being abused or neglected.

As we all know, children who have been the victims of abuse or neglect often require a great deal of help to recover and come to terms with what has happened to them. Removing children from such situations means that the abuse or neglect stops, at least while the child is in protective custody. It means that parents are forced to recognize that their behaviour has consequences for their children, which in turn provides an opportunity to work with the family to try to stabilize the home environment so that the child can then return home. Unfortunately, for some children this cycle in and out of care is repeated, often over a period of years.

Mr. Speaker, no one can deny that it is a terrible thing to have one's children apprehended. Surely no one would suggest that we should tolerate cases of child neglect and abuse in the hopes that the situation would eventually resolve or because other families in the community have similar problems.

Yes, parents have rights. They have the right to make choices about how they are going to parent their children. However, with that wonderful gift and privilege of parenthood comes the responsibility to care for each child and to provide the necessities of life. None of us has the right to abuse or neglect our children, or to expect that society will not intervene if we do so.

Mr. Speaker, children also have rights, even though they cannot advocate for themselves in the manner that their parents can. Our legislation says that children have the right to grow up free from the fear of abuse and neglect. They have the right to be loved and cared for by responsible adults. They have a right to be safe and secure.

Sadly, this is not always the case. In some regions and communities, up to 90 percent of child protection cases involve alcohol abuse. There are cases of young children who are not fed or who are abandoned for hours or days at a time while their parents drink or gamble. Our nurses and doctors are diagnosing and treating children, including babies and toddlers, with sexually transmitted diseases they have contracted from the very people who are supposed to love and care for them. Many of the children in care have special needs due to FAS/FAE that are beyond the capacity of their parents to address.

We should be very concerned about these children, Mr. Speaker.

The choices social workers face when dealing with families where children are being abused or neglected are extremely difficult. In many cases, the choices are also very limited. In every case, Mr. Speaker, the assessment is based on the least harmful alternative available in that community for that child. Mr. Speaker, I absolutely agree that children who must be removed from their homes should remain in their home communities wherever possible. Our child protection practice guidelines emphasize this.

It is important that children remain connected to their families and their friends so that the disruption in their lives is kept to an absolute minimum. Children need these vital supports and connections to their community to help them cope.

In a November 2000 snapshot of children receiving some form of child protection services, 80 percent of these children were receiving services in their home communities, 14 percent received services in another NWT community, and six percent required high specialized intervention services that are only available outside of the NWT.

Placement in another community or jurisdiction may be due to a number of reasons:

• the child is not considered safe in their home community, either because of their own actions or those of others;

• there are no services available to meet the child's needs in their home community;

• the child needs specialized services available only at a regional or territorial level or, in some instances, in another jurisdiction.

It is important to note, however, that the majority of placements outside of the home community occur with the full support of the child's family. These families realize that their child's needs come first and they want the best possible care for them.

The same snapshot has also revealed that 49 percent of children receiving protective and/or support services under the Child and Family Services Act are receiving these services through voluntary agreements between the parents and social workers. Mr. Speaker, this is most promising as it demonstrates that our new legislative base for protecting both the interests of the child and the family is indeed working, and that many parents are actively seeking support to deal with family problems.

As Members know, the review of child and family services by the Child Welfare League of Canada is evidence of our department's commitment to the well-being of children and families. We have begun to implement many of the recommendations and appreciate your support for the establishment of ten new social worker positions to help alleviate some of the worst workload pressures on our front-line staff and to ensure that more preventative work can be done. New funding will also be invested in training for social workers and foster parents.

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank and acknowledge social workers in our communities, who have the very difficult job of acting on our behalf in enforcing our legislation. The well-being of all our children is paramount. I will continue to keep this issue a priority as Minister responsible for these most vulnerable constituents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 74-14(3): The Protection Of Children

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Merci, Madam Minister. Declarations de ministre. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. Allen .

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Minister's Statement 75-14(3): Nordic Skiing In The Nwt

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to let Members know about an exciting event held this past weekend at the Yellowknife Ski Club involving athletes from Tuktoyaktuk, Inuvik, Fort Providence, Hay River, Fort Smith and Yellowknife. Approximately 100 skiers and biathletes enjoyed competing in the Nordic Cup No. 3 and Polar Cup No. 3 races.

Prior to the beginning of the races on Saturday, the Yellowknife Ski Club named its biathlon venue the Mary Beth Miller Biathlon Centre. This was done to honour the memory of Mary Beth Miller, a Yellowknife athlete who was killed last summer during a training session at the Miriam Bedard Biathlon Centre in Val Cartier, Quebec.

Mr. Speaker, it was exciting to witness the athletes competing in last weekend's events. Skiers ranged in age from the four- and five-year-old cradle group to a group of adults working hard to maintain their youth and their health. They were supported by parents and friends, many of whom volunteered to help officiate at the two events. The participation of some members from Canada's military stationed in Yellowknife, including their commanding officer, was an exciting development for the biathlon event.

As you know, the Northwest Territories has a proud history in Nordic skiing events. During the late 1960s, 1970s and early 1980s, several territorial athletes represented Canada in the Olympic Games and in several world championships. Inuvik played host to athletes from as many as ten countries who sent members of their national teams to compete in the annual Top of the World Ski Championships.

There are several skiers and biathletes from the Northwest Territories who are working towards representing their country in upcoming Olympic games and world championships. The Northwest Territories ski division and Northwest Territories Biathlon Association, like many other territorial sports organizations, are to be commended for their efforts to ensure athletes from northern communities get an opportunity to compete and develop their skills, both in northern competitions and in competitions held in the provinces. We need to encourage more of this. I would like to see more people get out to watch these young athletes compete. Their energy and enthusiasm is infectious, a healthy infection.

We need to support those who volunteer their time and skills to coaching these athletes. The investment of time and effort is very cost-effective, leading to life-long healthy living. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 75-14(3): Nordic Skiing In The Nwt

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen . I would just like to remind Ministers that we are translating, so just be a little slower in your speech. Declarations de ministre. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Handley .

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Minister's Statement 76-14(3): Coordinating The Review Process For Northern Gas Development

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, last week the chairs of the boards and agencies responsible for assessing and regulating energy development projects in the Northwest Territories met in Inuvik. The parties involved included the Inuvialuit and Mackenzie Valley Environmental Impact Review Boards, the National Energy Board, the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency as well as the various land and water boards in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, we recognize and are working to address the concerns industry has raised about the regulatory regime in the Northwest Territories. The work being done by the regulatory agencies to coordinate the environmental assessment and regulatory review processes is essential for northern gas development.

I understand the meeting last week was very successful and that all parties involved are pleased with the progress made in determining possible approaches for a coordinated review and regulatory process for Northwest Territories gas development and pipeline projects.

A number of cooperative approaches for the review of both a Mackenzie Valley pipeline and a Beaufort offshore route from Alaska have been identified. These approaches are consistent with existing legislation.

A preliminary information package for oil and gas development in the Northwest Territories was also approved. This means proponents will have the opportunity to provide basic information on potential gas development and pipeline projects. This approach is based on the operating guidelines under the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency.

This optional step for proponents will help the regulators to clearly identify the project components, their scale, location and potential environmental issues. It will also assist in advancing the discussions on developing an approach for a coordinated review and regulatory process.

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased with the progress to date and want to commend all parties involved for their commitment to developing an approach for a coordinated review and regulatory process.

We will continue to encourage and support the efforts of these boards and agencies to develop a fair, predictable and efficient regulatory process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 76-14(3): Coordinating The Review Process For Northern Gas Development

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Merci, Mr. Handley . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Declarations de ministre. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Minister's Statement 77-14(3): Development Of A Social Agenda

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Mr. Speaker, we all agree that a strong economy is critical in terms of providing productive choices for Northerners. However, the economic opportunities that lie ahead will do little to improve the quality of life in northern communities unless our people are able to participate fully.

Towards a Better Tomorrow affirms that this government is committed to doing our part to make the North a better place to live for everyone. We are, however, only one player and cannot do it alone. We need to partner with other governments, communities, stakeholders and individuals in realizing our vision.

The Premier indicated in his January address to the people of the Northwest Territories that our government is committed to developing a social agenda and, Mr. Speaker, today I am pleased to affirm that work on this important initiative is underway. The agenda will identify concrete actions intended to enhance health and wellness in our communities. It will identify areas where we need to do more or to do things differently to ensure that our social programs are meeting the needs of people and our communities.

Mr. Speaker, we recognize the merits of involving from the very onset other governments, program clients, community leaders, practitioners and non-government organizations in the development of a social agenda. To this end, we are planning on hosting a social agenda conference in order to continue the dialogue. We will share ideas and collaborate on how we can address our challenges, build on our successes and learn from the past.

Specifically, I am looking for concrete suggestions about how we can work in partnership to:

• enhance our awareness of the issues and encourage collaboration in working to find the solutions;

• prepare Northerners for our bright economic future;

• encourage a greater sense of ownership over personal and community wellness;

• reaffirm our mutually respectful relationships with other governments, community leaders, service providers and above all, clients;

• improve the design and delivery of social programs, including better integration and coordination of programs; and

• collaborate with aboriginal governments in building their capacity to successfully assume much of the decision-making authority for social programming through self-government.

To support our work, I am pleased to announce that the Ministerial Committee on Social Agenda is establishing a Council of Grandmothers. In establishing this council, we are looking for advice and guidance from women who are respected in their communities and regions, passionate about personal and community wellness and interested in working for positive change. Grandmothers are strong matriarchs who have raised their families, who have a history of caring deeply about social issues and who bring the wisdom of their years and experience to all that they do.

A Council of Grandmothers will help us ensure that positive social change is practical, workable, based on community realities and more importantly, connected to the people. This council will be involved in the social agenda conference and will hopefully enhance the continuity and momentum of the conference well into the future.

I will be pleased to routinely update this House on the progress made towards developing a social agenda and the conference itself. I look to the invaluable experience and knowledge of all Members to help make this very important initiative a success. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Merci, Madam Minister. Declarations de ministre. Declarations de deputes. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Fort Smith Fire Abatement Program

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have all seen in the news and are probably aware of the devastating effects forest fires can have in heavily forested parts of the country where there are communities. Mr. Speaker, the constituency I come from is in the middle of the boreal forest on the banks of the Slave River. We are in exactly that predicament.

Mr. Speaker, over the last number of years, we have been trying to pull together a fire abatement program to help thin out the heavy timber and bush that surrounds the community, in fact, that the town is situated in. It has been a difficult process. It has been a difficult project. It is one with tremendous potential. There is almost unlimited supply of firewood in there, lumber that could be harvested if it was done selectively.

Mr. Speaker, just last year on television we saw what happened in the United States when the community of Los Alamos had a backfire that went wrong. The community lost hundreds of houses. I have seen it happen in Alaska and I have heard of it happening in other jurisdictions in Canada.

Mr. Speaker, it always comes down to the issue of money. It would be far better to put money into the front end for prevention, as we talk about in a lot of the social areas, then wait and see what happens when you come to communities like Norman Wells, where you have to evacuate if you are not ready and the community is not prepared for a fire.

Mr. Speaker, the issue is one between the community and the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development. Later today, I will be asking the Minister questions about how we can move this process along, how we can look at a long-term program that will put local people to work clearing and harvesting and putting that wood they are going to thin out to good use in the community.

Mr. Speaker, this is a very pressing issue. Spring is once again around the corner. Fire season will soon be here. It would be to our benefit, to the government's benefit, to be ready and not be responding after the fact. Thank you.

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Fort Smith Fire Abatement Program

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Merci, Mr. Miltenberger . Declarations de deputes. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. McLeod .

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Fort Providence Land Lease Cost Increases

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to bring to the attention of this House a situation I feel is unfair. The community corporation in my hometown of Fort Providence has brought this situation to my attention. I touched upon this issue in committee of the whole on Friday, March 2nd during the review of the main estimates for Municipal and Community Affairs.

Over the last ten years, the community corporation has leased a parcel of land from the territorial government through the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. Each of those ten years, those lease costs were $250. Last September, the lease on this parcel of land expired and because there were no changes to the leasing arrangement, MACA gave a credit of three percent each year for the old lease. Further, MACA also gave a credit for the value of lease payments made over the term of the original lease.

Mr. Speaker, imagine my constituents' surprise when they were informed that despite these deductions made to their lease, there was going to be a major increase in the cost of the lease. The community development corporation was also given the opportunity to choose between two different types of leases, a regular lease and an equity lease. If the regular lease was chosen, then annual lease payments would increase to $2,000 a year for 20 years and be subject to review and adjustment on each five-year anniversary. GST was not included in these figures.

If the equity lease was chosen, annual payments of $2,500 would be required for the ten-year term. Again, this excludes GST. For the remaining ten years in the lease, the lessee would pay a dollar a year. The equity lease would result in a lower cash outlay for the 20-year period rather than the regular lease.

Mr. Speaker, should my constituents choose the regular lease option, the cost will increase from $250 a year to $2,000 a year. This is close to eight times the present yearly rate. Should the equity lease be chosen, the cost would go to $2,500 a year, ten times the present rate.

Mr. Speaker, these increases are not reasonable. I am concerned that the impact of major land lease increases like these on my constituents and other residents of the Northwest Territories will have dramatic effects. I will be posing questions later to the Minister. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. McLeod . Declarations de deputes. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Akaitcho Hall Students And Staff Reunion

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We all acknowledge the importance of education to the development of our society. Equally important are the friendships, associations and events that we have experienced through our years at school. On June 30th and July 1st of this year, there will be another historic gathering in Yellowknife, one which we hope will see hundreds of participants. The event I am referring to, Mr. Speaker, is the reunion for Akaitcho Hall students and staff.

Mr. Speaker, since its opening in 1958, Sir John Franklin School and Akaitcho Hall, as the companion residential facility, provided very high academic and vocational standards. Education made a positive difference in the lives of thousands of students who passed through those doors and hallways.

Students from 37 communities have attended Sir John and many Members of this Assembly, Mr. Speaker, have been residents of Akaitcho Hall. With the proposed demolition of the residence in the very near future to make room for new development, now is a fitting time to have a reunion.

There is a small organizing committee putting the plans in place for this reunion. Some of the activities include a dinner and dance on June 30th, combined barbecue on Canada Day, along with other festivities. The committee, which includes yourself, Mr. Speaker, is putting promotional plans in place and looking for sponsors.

The committee is also working on 37 years for a commemorative gazette covering those decades of operation. Contributors and researchers and a variety of production staff are now being put together from existing students at Sir John Franklin School. We will need volunteers to help make this happen. I hope former residents of Akaitcho Hall and Sir John Franklin School will join me and others in marking this reunion at the end of June and on Canada Day. I look forward to renewing friendships from my younger days when I went there and exchanging views on how we shall all continue to successfully meet the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden . Declarations de deputes. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Non-insured Health Benefits Dental Program

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the day of the toothless smile in the Northwest Territories is gone, or is it, Mr. Speaker? Mr. Speaker, I say this and I ask this for one reason. I have been made aware that the NIHB, non-insured health benefits, relating to the dental program for status Indian and Inuit in the Northwest Territories has been taken over by Ottawa. Mr. Speaker, since they have taken over this program, trying to get dental treatment in the Northwest Territories has been difficult. In fact, when dentists send for approvals, Ottawa sends back a question asking if there is another alternative instead of the treatment plan that has been provided.

I have been given some numbers, Mr. Speaker, that show that in fact across Canada, based on 1999 statistics, the only other jurisdiction that has a lower cost per client is in Saskatchewan, where they average $317 per client. Here in the Northwest Territories, the average cost for clients is $351. When you look at Alberta, they have a $424 average cost per client.

Mr. Speaker, even when we look at the cost of per item of treatment that a dentist goes through, they are more expensive here in the Northwest Territories than most other jurisdictions. The fact is we are still getting less dollars per client in the Northwest Territories since Ottawa has taken over.

I wonder what they are pushing for when they ask for other alternatives. Instead of repairing teeth, are they back in the days when they came North to pull teeth? Mr. Speaker, that is a very serious concern to residents. It is an issue I have dealt with on behalf of a number of constituents. Again, I think it is an area we need to focus on. During question period, I will have questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Thank you.

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Non-insured Health Benefits Dental Program

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1547

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Declarations de deputes. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Delorey .

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Programs To Ensure The Return Of Well-educated Young Northerners

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Page 1547

Paul Delorey

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, early in the life of the 14th Legislative Assembly, we released our vision for attaining a better future for our residents. This vision was included in our document Towards a Better Tomorrow. Mr. Speaker, in the document we stated that we should promote self-reliant, healthy, well-educated individuals, families and communities doing their part to improve the quality of life for themselves. Mr. Speaker, in this same document, we go on to say that we should have a motivated young generation prepared to take advantage of the opportunities the North has to offer.

Mr. Speaker, I wanted to commend this government for the positive steps they have taken towards this vision. Maximizing northern employment should have far-reaching, positive benefits and improve on our track record in attracting our educated youth back to the Northwest Territories. I see this as accomplishing more than just filling jobs.

Mr. Speaker, many of our young people who go on to post-secondary education have been raised in the North and have many ties to the North, not the least of which are their families. We have a growing population of parents whose well-educated children have remained in the south to retain adequate employment.

Mr. Speaker, we need those young people here so that their parents may be more inclined to remain here during their retirement years. Many of these retiring parents have been contributing to our well-being for many years and will continue to do so if we give them reason to. This, Mr. Speaker, will include grandfathers. I would like to put a proposal forward to form a Council of Grandfathers...

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Hear, hear!

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Paul Delorey

Hay River North

...and I hope we have as much money as the Minister does for grandmothers, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, small- to medium-sized businesses will play a large role in the economic development of the North. We must do more to help them remain competitive so they can do their

part in putting our people to work. This will be a tall order, Mr. Speaker, in light of the fact that practically every province in Canada is struggling with a shortage of a qualified labour force in just about every sector. Mr. Speaker, the reality is we will never put all of our people to work nor will we succeed in keeping them all in the North, but we must do all we can towards that goal. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Delorey . Let us hope there is not a shortage of qualified grandfathers. I would like to volunteer. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Sustainable Health Care In Small Rural Communities

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1548

Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think all of us in the House are aware of the crisis in staffing nurses and doctors throughout the North. In my region, the Dogrib Community Services Board is responsible for operating and maintaining the health system for the North Slave.

The board receives funding for their programs from the Department of Health and Social Services. In November, the board wrote to the Minister of Health and Social Services outlining a realistic plan for ensuring that a basic level of health care is provided to the outlying communities.

They suggested increasing the role of community health representatives, lay dispensers, and adding paramedics to the standard mix of community health centres. In this way, local people could be trained now for these positions. We would be strengthening our human resource base, increasing local employment and improving our health care system in a feasible way.

By training local people, we would also ensure that most day-to-day health issues in northern communities are dealt with effectively. I would like to point out that by addressing health care in this way, one of my communities would benefit tremendously.

Currently in Wekweti, there is a half-time lay dispenser who cannot even begin to meet the health care demands of the community. This position cannot be expanded unless the board receives increased funding from the Government of the Northwest Territories. This would be a worthwhile investment given the shortage of doctors and nurses. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Declarations de deputes. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Support For Special Needs Students

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to speak on the need for additional funding and attention to take care of our special needs students in our school system. I do not think I could do this better than a very articulate testimonial of one of the parents. It goes like this:

"I was recently involved in a parent-led campaign that sought to have a full-time education assistant assigned to the grade 2 class at J.H. Sissons School in Yellowknife. At that time, the class was made up of 27 students. Nine were being counselled to encourage more positive behaviour and at least five were known to be below the academic level for that grade. Two were later identified as having special needs due to either a mental or physical handicap.

This entire class, including the high-end special need student, was in the care of only one teacher. The school teaching staff have been assisting these children by providing counselling and program support. The time they are able to dedicate is limited to a few hours each week as their services are shared by numerous other high-need students.

Eventually, testing of the children was done and the two special needs children were identified. In January, these two students began sharing one education assistant for half of their school day. Another child was placed in the Strategies for Success Program, which helps students become better and more positive learners. These actions are helping the children involved but it does not address all of the high-need children in the class.

Six families moved their children to another school as they felt the class make-up did not promote a healthy learning environment for their children. This move, which was upsetting to all involved, may have been avoided if:

funds were available to provide immediate help when it is needed;

administrators were trained and equipped to identify and respond to high and special needs students in their schools; and

pupil-teacher ratios were reduced when high-need students are involved.

This may mean the schools are funded in the future based more on the needs of the students and not just on the number of students enrolled."

Mr. Speaker, I would like to conclude by lending support to her suggestion or her plea to the Minister, which says:

"I strongly urge you to direct whatever resources you can towards developing a strategy for early identification and support of high-end special needs students. The investment will appear small in comparison to the cost to society...

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Ms. Lee , your time for you Member's statement has expired.

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Ms. Lee , you may conclude.

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. I would just like to conclude her urge to the Minister, which says:

"I strongly urge you to direct whatever resources you can towards developing a strategy for early identification and support of high-end special need students. The investment will appear small in comparison to the cost to society if these children do not receive the support they so desperately need at an early age."

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Declarations de deputes. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Municipal Funding Formula Changes

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1549

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too have concerns in regard to the land pricing policy of the Government of the Northwest Territories, especially with the major increases that have been noted, such as in the community of Aklavik, where the property values have been assessed at $13,000 per lot.

Mr. Speaker, this policy only came into effect in 1997 but there is no room in the policy to consider there was a land freeze as a result of land claims being settled in the Mackenzie Valley, where people were only in the position of leasing property through this long-term lease from the 1980s to the 1990s. The prices presently there are unacceptable to the residents of the Mackenzie Delta and Aklavik.

I think it is clear, Mr. Speaker, that we as a government have to do more to reflect the wishes of the residents of our communities and the homeowners in our communities to reflect the realistic costs of trying to live in our small, isolated communities. Mr. Speaker, this is one more burden on our residents with a cost that is unforeseen, uncalled for and one that had no public involvement in implementation.

Mr. Speaker, this government has been funding municipalities and settlements for a number of years through the MOPE and SOAP program, which identified resources to communities to allow for the building of roads, culvert costs, power poles and other associated costs within our small municipalities. Now, Mr. Speaker, we are in the process of clawing back dollars for those development costs and putting it on the shoulders of the residents of our communities.

Like my colleague from the Deh Cho, I too will have questions to the Minister on this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Declarations de deputes. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Zero Tolerance Of Family Violence

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1549

Charles Dent

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last session, Members of this Assembly unanimously passed a declaration on family violence in an effort to help stop family violence. We are all aware of the statistics in the Northwest Territories that paint a disturbing picture of assault and abuse within families.

This issue is so important that the Premier appointed the Minister of Health and Social Services to oversee the government's efforts to combat family violence. Mr. Speaker, I believe the Minister responsible must now accept this challenge and run with it.

Front-line workers are stretched to their limits. They need someone to rally around, to raise the profile of this issue. Minister Groenewegen can and should be that person. Unfortunately, in a letter to the Social Programs Committee, Minister Groenewegen has stated that one person cannot champion this cause.

Mr. Speaker, I disagree. I realize this is a big challenge. However, the Minister is in a position to coordinate an effort to develop a strategy implementing zero tolerance of family violence. An effective strategy will only result from collaboration between all GNWT social envelope departments, NGOs, community leaders and those affected by family violence across the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister should also bring in family violence legislation similar to that already in place in several provinces. This legislation would provide for clear, enforceable intervention orders so authorities can respond to family violence situations more effectively. However, the immediate priority is the need to find more money.

Mr. Speaker, organizations that deal with family violence are underfunded. They need additional resources to help train counsellors, improve rehabilitation programs and add to the amount of shelter space that is available.

It is not good enough for the Minister to state that there is no room for expansion of services within existing resources. If necessary, Mr. Speaker, the Minister must reallocate resources and work with the Members of this Legislative Assembly to find the funds that are required.

As Minister Groenewegen said to the Standing Committee on Social Programs, "it is something that if we truly believe in, the amount that we invest will reflect that." Mr. Speaker, as a society, we pay a huge price for family violence. We must break the tragic cycle. It is time for the Minister responsible to champion this cause and lead this Assembly in our efforts to raise awareness across the North of this terrible problem. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Item 3, Members' statements. Declarations de deputes. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Nitah .

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Federal Government Commitments And Responsibilities

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1550

Steven Nitah

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to challenge the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs , the Premier , the Minister of Health and Social Services and all the chiefs in the Northwest Territories. As my colleague, Mr. Roland just pointed out, Ottawa is penny-pinching on services that they provide in an agreement called treaty.

Under treaty, there is such a thing as non-insured health benefits. In the past, they have given full dental treatments, glasses and health and education. Now what we are seeing today is Ottawa slowly clawing this back. They are slowly clawing the dollars that they have committed to this government, to the aboriginal people of the Northwest Territories and Canada.

I was just reading an

article on oil and gas development. Millions of dollars of diamonds are pulled out of the Northwest Territories and the federal government is the one collecting most of the royalties, or will be collecting most of the royalties.

They are the biggest benefactor in terms of collecting taxes from people who work. As the Government of the Northwest Territories, they decide how much money we need. We tell them how much we need and there is a big difference, Mr. Speaker.

At the end of the day, what we are seeing is the federal government slowly taking treaty rights away from people of the Northwest Territories. This government is going to contractual arrangements with the federal government. They are gypping this government as well. When are we as a people and as the Government of the Northwest Territories finally going to stand up and say enough is enough?

-- Applause

We have natural resources, oil and gas, that are badly needed in North America. The price of fuel is going up. We have water. Five percent of the fresh water in the world. That is going to be a big commodity.

We have to stand up and say enough is enough. Mr. Speaker, we need to say no, enough is enough. Unless the federal government wants to play ball with us, why should we be willing to play ball anymore?

Again, I call on the Premier , the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs , the Minister of Health and all the chiefs to fight for the rights of the people of the Northwest Territories in terms of non-insured health benefits, and just to get our due. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Federal Government Commitments And Responsibilities

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Nitah . Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. Allen .

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Muskrat Trapping Season

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is an important time of the year for the people of the Mackenzie Delta, especially for a majority of my constituents in the riding of Inuvik Twin Lakes. The cultural importance I am speaking of is this is the time for rat trapping season, as we call it back home.

The season for trapping for later spring hunters lasts March 1st to June 15th annually. Rat trapping plays a significant role in the lives of Inuvik Twin Lakes, as it brings families back onto the trap line to harvest these resilient little rodents, Ondatra Zibethica.

The ratting season also gives an opportunity for people to go out and enjoy a traditional lifestyle. To put it mildly, get a good wind burn and enjoy the return of long daylight. Fresh tea and bannock beside a good fire alongside the lake seem to put the people back into a refreshed state of mind.

Mr. Speaker, I want to pass along my sincere good wishes to all those who are going to enjoy this annual practice to which I can safely say that I am envious of at this time of the year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Muskrat Trapping Season

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen . That brings back a lot of fond memories. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Ootes .

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Recognition Of Yellowknife Volunteers

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1550

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Volunteers play an essential role in Yellowknife as they do in all Northwest Territories communities. Recent surveys show that Northerners lead almost all other Canadians in the amount of volunteering they do. In 1999, 41 percent of Yellowknifers over the age of 15 participated in volunteer activity. The national average was 31 percent.

I was pleased to take

part in the official launch of the International Year of Volunteers, which took place here in the Legislative Assembly in December. Several of the volunteers singled out for special recognition were Yellowknife residents. Among these, three were Cappy Elkin, Meryl Falconer and Ann Peters. They were recognized for their work with a number of activities and events, including the Stanton Regional Hospital Foundation, the Breast Cancer Awareness Program, Girl Guides, the Guild of Crafts and Folk on the Rocks.

I would also like to recognize a few of the volunteer organizations operating in my constituency of Yellowknife Centre. The individuals who volunteer for these organizations are, through their efforts, making Yellowknife a better place to live. The Yellowknife Women's Centre has just celebrated its tenth anniversary. It exists because a group of volunteers decided they would improve the situation for women in this city. They started out as a small, on-the-job training program in 1991 and continued to increase and improve services they were providing. Last year, they assisted approximately 400 families.

The Yellowknife Food Bank has been operating for a number of years, always relying completely on volunteers to deliver this service.

The Side Door is a no-cost hangout for youth in the Yellowknife downtown core. About 100 young people a week take advantage of the Side Door's activities that are geared specifically for them and find a listening ear when they need one. The Side Door is a volunteer board and also has volunteers working with youth and helping to manage the organization.

Mr. Speaker, there are many other organizations in Yellowknife which would not be able to carry out their mandates if it were not for the involvement of volunteers. There are many, many more volunteers that I could possibly name, but it is important and very appropriate that we show volunteers that we appreciate them because our society is greatly improved because of their efforts. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Colleagues, at this time, I would like to recognize in the gallery our Conflict of Interest Commissioner, Ms. Carol Roberts.

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Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Lee Selleck in the press corps and also the guests in our gallery. Thank you.

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Page 1551

The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Thank you. I would like to welcome everyone who is here today to observe your Legislative Assembly at work. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Braden .

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Question 451-14(3): Large-scale Lottery Licence Fees

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1551

Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question this afternoon is for the Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs . Last year, I raised a question about the fairness of lotteries, especially large-scale lotteries which cross boundaries and have substantial prizes attached to them. However, because of the percentage of licence fee established, they do not become economic and therefore people of the Northwest Territories miss out on the potential benefits of these lotteries, and also being able to contribute to worthy causes such as the Canadian Cancer Society. I would like to ask the Minister, Mr.

Speaker, what progress he is making on reviewing this situation with large-scale lotteries that cross our boundaries? Thank you.

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Question 451-14(3): Large-scale Lottery Licence Fees

Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Braden . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Allen .

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Question 451-14(3): Large-scale Lottery Licence Fees

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1551

Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the department has reviewed the current fee structure and the revisions are currently being drafted by the Department of Justice and will take effect April 1st of this year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Allen . Supplementary, Mr. Braden .

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased that there is some action. I wonder if the Minister could give the Assembly some idea of what kind of criteria are being established that would potentially make these lotteries more successful in the North? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Braden . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Allen .

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I would like to advise the Members that the fee for office, the total prize payout of $30,000 or less, would be five percent of the prize total. The fee for office of a total prize in excess of $30,000 would be a flat rate of $1,500. Thank you.

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Bill Braden

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the area of the larger prize, that sounds quite realistic. In the information relating to the five percent of total fees for lotteries under $30,000, I think most of the lotteries we run in the NWT are in that scale. Is this five percent an increase or a decrease from the current fee? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Braden . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Allen .

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have the specific details to respond to that question. I will be able to provide that at a later date. Thank you.

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Merci, Mr. Minister. Mr. Braden , your final supplementary.

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Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I look forward to getting that information. I am wondering by what means will the department be publicizing or making this information available to charitable organizations in the North? Thank you.

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that as of April 1st of this year, we will be able to communicate that back to the interested groups, either through a letter or through a public announcement. Thank you.

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Thank you, Minister Allen . Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Question 452-14(3): Recommendation To Establish A Child Advocate

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question today goes to the Minister of Health and Social Services, and it is with regard to the statement she made earlier. First of all, Mr. Speaker, I want to commend the Minister for a very well-stated position about the need to protect the rights of our children and the children's right to be free from neglect and abuse.

Mr. Speaker, my question today comes from the report I had talked about earlier in this House, the Child Welfare League of Canada. Out of the 52 recommendations the report had, one of the recommendations was a suggestion for a child advocate whose responsibility would be to ensure the rights of children and their families are articulated and respected, and that children and their families have access to an independent arbitrator if they believe their rights are abrogated. I would like to ask the Minister whether she has had a chance to review this recommendation and what the department's position is. Thank you.

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Thank you, Ms. Lee . There were two questions there. The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, we have looked at that particular recommendation. Included in the $1.2 million critical investment that was approved under the Heath and Social Services budget is funding to begin to do the research and putting the legislation in place for a children's advocate for the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Merci, Madam Minister. Supplementary, Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the Minister's answer and the positive nature of that. I wonder if the Minister could elaborate more on how far she is with this project. Is there a team working together? Are there staff assigned? I hope it is not going to be done by someone else outside of the government. Can we get more elaboration please?

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Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As for the elaboration of the activity under this particular initiative, it is necessary to examine what is being done in terms of child advocacy in other jurisdictions. I am not exactly sure who is undertaking to do this work within the department, but the response to the Child Welfare League of Canada's report was intended to be a phased-in response over a three-year period.

What we have seen here in the last few weeks is the first year's activities and, as I mentioned, included in that are the financial resources necessary to do the research to form the foundation to respond to that particular recommendation for a child advocate. Thank you.

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think this is the second time the Minister has mentioned the action plan responding to this report. I wonder if the Minister could make a copy available to us? Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, certainly if the initial year's activities and the outline of what the $1.2 million critical investment is intended to do would help provide a better understanding for the Member, I will be happy to provide it. Thank you.

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Thank you. Your final supplementary, Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the same time, could I get the Minister to commit to having as much input as possible from the Members on this side with regard to coming up with a child advocacy office? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Certainly my department does work with the Standing Committee on Social Programs, but I realize that not all Members have a chance to participate on that committee. If Members have a particular interest in this area and would like to have an opportunity for input, we are more than happy to receive that. Thank you.

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Thank you, Madam Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 453-14(3): Health Care Delivery In The Dogrib Region

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services , Mrs. Groenewegen . In my Member's statement, I pointed out that the Dogrib Community Services Board had written to the Department of Health and Social Services in November with a feasible plan to address health care in the outlying communities. I would like to ask the Minister if the department would consider alternative models of health care delivery in outlying communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in response to some of the questions that have been raised by the terms of reference for the review that we are undertaking right now, we have an opportunity to address things such as the equity and distribution of services throughout our communities.

Also, through the Canada Health and Social Transfer, there is a strong commitment in that agreement towards primary care reform. I believe that is encompassed in the kinds of suggestions that have been made to us by the Dogrib Community Services Board through their correspondence that Mr. Lafferty refers to. Thank you.

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if she is willing to work with the Department of Education to develop and implement a training program which would allow such a health care system to be implemented? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, as we move along in the direction of primary care reform, it will be necessary to ensure that the competency levels at the community level are available and training is made available to enhance those. Certainly in the area of lay dispensers and community health representatives, in those two areas particularly, we will be looking at ensuring that we have the capacity to train Northerners to do that work. Thank you.

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Leon Lafferty

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if she will work with the Dogrib Community Services Board to ensure that the core funding is provided for these positions in outlying communities? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If I could also respond to Mr. Lafferty 's last question, I would like to tell him that the Department of Health and Social Services has entered into a contribution agreement with Aurora College to review and renew the training curriculum for health representatives over the coming year. That is a little more specific to Mr. Lafferty 's question.

With response to working with the Dogrib Community Services Board to ensure a higher level of service for the outlying smaller communities, yes, we will certainly be doing that through the review process that we are undertaking now. I would also hope that Mr. Lafferty will have a chance in the next couple of days to speak with a member of the review team so that these kinds of diversity of needs of different regions will be brought to light and reflected in the results of the review. Thank you.

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Merci, Madam Minister. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is for Roger Allen , the Minister responsible for Youth . I have decided that I am going to ask him this question every budget session until we start to hear the answers we want to hear. We are almost through the budget. We have looked at all the departments. We have not quite gotten to the Department of Youth. I would like to ask the Minister for Youth , what is his budget this year? Thank you.

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can inform the Member that we are working very closely with the Department of the Executive. They assured us as recently as last weekend that we should be entitled to a small budget at the end of this month, this current fiscal year, in the amount of $30,000. Thank you.

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Thank you, Minister Allen . Supplementary, Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In future years then, will this be coming forward as presentation in the mains? This will be an amount of money to the base in the future? Thank you.

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I can inform the Member that we are putting together a comprehensive proposal to ensure that there is a Youth budget in the next main estimates. Thank you.

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Merci, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you. I am wondering if the Minister can speak to the Child and Youth Strategy the government is working on and let us know exactly where that is. Thank you.

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I apologize, Mr. Speaker, for the little delay here. No, I cannot speak to that specific matter. That lies with another department. The Youth portfolio basically plays an advocacy role with other departments to ensure that all youth programs and projects are looked at from this government's perspective. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Final supplementary, Mr. Bell .

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Brendan Bell

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize. I was under the impression that the Minister of Youth would play a role in implementing the strategy once it was developed. Was I mistaken? Thank you.

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Roger Allen

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am going to clarify our role and responsibilities in terms of how we function as the Minister responsible for Youth , that is to play more of an advocacy role than anything else at this point. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Minister Allen . Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 455-14(3): Community Fire Abatement Program

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I apologize. I was having a side conversation. My questions are directed to the Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development . They are in regard to the fire abatement program in our community. I would like to ask the Minister, is there a formal fire abatement program for communities that are in the heart of the boreal forest that they can plan on to make their communities safe during the forest fire season? Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we do not refer to it as a fire abatement program, but there is a program called the Community Protection, Planning and Support Program. Thank you.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we have been working with RWED for a number of years. There seems to be some money for the planning phase, but the proposal that was done was multi-year, like five or ten years to do it properly, to do it incrementally so it does not cost a fortune in one year. I would like to ask the Minister, is there funding available to do that kind of program for communities? Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we do budget $300,000 through the forest management division for community protection, planning and support services. That money could be used for planning or it can be used to assist communities in doing their fire abatement work, whether it is cleaning up, cutting trees, or whatever it may be. It is up to the communities to apply through the district office. Thank you.

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Merci, Mr. Minister. Supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, could the Minister indicate whether there is a plan in the Department of RWED to work with the communities that are affected, to in fact ensure that all communities over time will have a proper fire abatement program and that there is the proper protection, the steps are taken to make sure the communities are as fire-proof as possible? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Yes, Mr. Speaker, we as a department work with the community or town council, with the fire marshal's office, with the aboriginal corporation that might be running a fire crew, or band council office. We work with all of them to help to identify a plan.

The views of communities differ from situation to situation in terms of what they want to do. Some communities want a clear fireguard around the communities. Others want to trim some trees out. Others just want to clean up dead fall and so on. It is really up to the community to determine what the plan will be. We will work with them.

We have a program called Fire Smart that we work with each community on. Thank you.

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Thank you, Minister Handley . Final supplementary, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, could the Minister indicate whether he would be willing to assist the community of Fort Smith to try to develop and get the resources for a multi-year, long-term program that will allow us to in fact do the work that has to be done to make our community fire smart? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development, Mr. Handley .

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Joe Handley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, we have been supporting a multi-year program, along with the leaders in the community and the Thebacha Forestry Company, on the fire abatement plan they have been working on. We are quite pleased to have been a part of that. Certainly we will consider any proposals they bring forward now to actually put that plan into action. The responsibility is up to the community leaders to put an application to us. We will certainly have a look at it. Thank you.

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Tony Whitford

Thank you, Minister Handley . Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Roland .

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Question 456-14(3): Non-insured Dental Benefits

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I stated in my Member's statement, the non-insured health benefits in the dental program area continue to be a problem for status Indian and Inuit families.

Mr. Speaker, using a figure that I have, in the Yukon Territory, our neighbours have an average cost of $458 per client when they go to Ottawa and put a claim in. Here in the Northwest Territories, as I stated earlier, we are down to about the $351 mark. Mr. Speaker, it has been a problem in the North ever since Ottawa took control of that program back. I know there have been meetings between the dental association and the department, and I believe at one time with representatives of the federal government.

I would like to know from the Minister what is being done in this situation to try and alleviate the problem so that Ottawa does not only take our oil and gas out of the ground, but we stop them from taking out teeth as well? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Tony Whitford

Thank you, Mr. Roland . The honourable Minister responsible for the Department of Health and Social Services, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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