Debates of March 11th, 2009

This is page numbers 2957 - 3002 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was fuel .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 64-16(3): Business Incentive Policy

Minister’s Statement 65-16(3): Youth Development Strategy

Minister’s Statement 66-16(3): Northern Content In The Classroom

Grollier Hall Residential School Agreement With The GNWT

Pay Equity And The Federal Public Sector Equitable Compensation Act

Contributions Of Nunakput Students To Global Charities

Federal Action Plan And GNWT Equivalent

Concerns For Tu Nedhe Constituents

Mandate And Role Of Bdic

Suicide Prevention Strategy In The NWT

Recognition Of Ecology North Contributions And Volunteers

Transfer Of The Public Housing Subsidy To Local Housing Authorities

Federal Government Funding For Housing

Congratulations To Ms. Irene Lafferty

Acknowledging The Contributions Of Shirley And Sharon Firth

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Suicide Prevention Strategy

Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

Achievement And Goals Of Bdic Act

Federal Funding For Housing

Social Services And Child Care Issues

Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

Increase On NWT Minimum Wage

Grollier Hall Residential School Agreement

Support For NWT Manufacturing Sector

Revenue From Non-Resident Workforce

GNWT Discussions With Arslanian Diamond Works

GNWT Support For The Dehcho Process

Business Incentive Policy Review

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Written Question 6-16(3): NWT Resource Royalties

Written Question 7-16(3): Activities Of Business Development Investment Corporation

Committee Report 4-16(3): Report On The Review Of The Report Of The Chief Electoral Officer On The Administration Of The 2007 Election

Motion To Receive Committee Report 4-16(3) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole Carried

Tabled Document 29-16(3): NWT Power Corporation 2007-2008 Annual Report

Tabled Document 30-16(3): Interactivity Transfers Over $250,000 For The Period April 1, 2008, To December 1, 2008

Tabled Document 31-16(3): Barren-Ground Caribou Management In The NWT: An Independent Peer Review

Tabled Document 32-16(3): 2007-2008 Annual Report Of The Northwest Territories Information And Privacy Commissioner

Low Carbon Fuel Standard Carried

Recorded Vote

Bill 15: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2009

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Bill 5: Professional Corporations Act

Bill 9: Northern Employee Benefits Services Pension Plan Protection Act

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:35 p.m.

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Prayer

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome back to the Chamber. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 64-16(3): Business Incentive Policy

Ministers’ Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories is committed to sustainable economic development in the Northwest Territories and to encouraging the development of a healthy private sector.

This commitment has been supported by the Business Incentive Policy providing local preference to registered northern companies on all procurement contracts entered into directly by the Government of the Northwest Territories.

These procurement dollars have had a residual and positive impact on our territory and our communities. Small businesses have developed in number and capacity and our Northwest Territories business community is now vibrant and competitive. Our economy has matured and with it, the role of the Government of the Northwest Territories procurement in this environment has also changed.

As a government, we must ensure that our programs and services reflect these changing times and balance the need to provide effective support to our community with the reality of higher costs and tightening budgets. We are currently seeking the input of our aboriginal business community stakeholders on amendments we are proposing to the Business Incentive Policy.

These proposed changes have been developed to address concerns by community governments that the Business Incentive Policy is restricting their authority over funding they receive for operations, to strengthen support to Northwest Territories resident-owned small businesses and improve competition on major infrastructure projects in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, our government maintains that the principle of supporting Northwest Territories business or local preference for the Business Incentive Policy remains firm. Changes that have been identified are designed to maximize benefits for Northwest Territories residents and provide all communities and regions with opportunities and choices while ensuring best value on government procurement.

These proposed revisions have been developed to support ongoing Government of the Northwest Territories efforts to refocus areas of service delivery and infrastructure management to ensure affordable and effective government operations.

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories is committed to working in partnership with Northwest Territories communities and supporting our business community through our contracting practices. Once we have concluded this consultation, I plan to return to the committee this fall to provide our findings and recommended next steps to get my colleagues’ feedback.

I would encourage all of our partners and interested individuals to embrace this opportunity to provide input on this very important economic policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 64-16(3): Business Incentive Policy

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 65-16(3): Youth Development Strategy

Ministers’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I am pleased to provide Members with an overview of the Northwest Territories Youth Development Strategy and outline some of our planned initiatives designed to help support the development of our youth.

The 16th Legislative Assembly has identified several

key priorities related to the development of youth. These include a focus on prevention by promoting healthy choices and lifestyles, the role of personal and family responsibility and the importance of working with families, communities and schools to improve the physical and mental well-being of our youth.

The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs delivers a variety of programs and services that foster positive development of youth in communities. A Territory-wide Youth Development Strategy will improve our efforts by continuing successful programming and developing new tools to ensure that the priorities identified by youth, community residents and Members of the Legislative Assembly are addressed. The strategy will also ensure that existing coordination of youth programs and services will be built on and enhanced.

Mr. Speaker, some of the elements contained in the Youth Development Strategy that I wish to highlight for Members include an expanded Youth Ambassadors Program. The program offers NWT youth opportunity to receive training and volunteer experience at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics and Paralympics while serving as ambassadors of the Northwest Territories.

Prior experience with the Youth Ambassadors Program at the 2007 Canada Winter Games, the 2008 Arctic Winter Games and the 2008 North American Indigenous Games has demonstrated the positive outcome experienced by youth through this experience. My colleagues may recall that at the 2008 North American Indigenous Games, our youth ambassadors received a special recognition award for their outstanding contribution to the games.

Other initiatives included in the Youth Strategic Plan include a stable source of funding for the operation and maintenance of community youth centres located across the NWT. I am also pleased to advise that MACA is providing the SideDoor Youth Centre in Yellowknife with funding assistance to support the hosting of a youth centre conference that is scheduled for later this spring. This conference will allow program delivery staff from all across the Territories the opportunity to exchange ideas and receive information from a wide range of youth service and funding organizations.

Other elements included in the Youth Development Strategy include:

a youth program officer position in each of the northern and southern regions to provide ongoing support to community-based youth initiatives;

the development of a youth website to serve as a one-stop shop for GNWT youth programming;

the development of a new after-school physical activity program to engage communities and schools to encourage healthy lifestyles;

support for a variety of youth forums including an NWT youth conference and youth role model tours to guide the development of future programming; and

the introduction of the Next Generation

Initiative that will engage enthusiastic youth in a wide variety of initiatives with a view to recruiting them as the next generation of community development leaders.

The success of youth programming is dependent on strong partnerships between communities, local organizations, and government departments working together to identify local needs and implement viable solutions. Through the Youth Development Strategy MACA will continue to make wise investments to ensure all parties involved succeed in developing our youth.

I would like to express my thanks to all the Members for their continued support as we move forward with the Youth Development Strategy in the coming months.

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Minister’s Statement 65-16(3): Youth Development Strategy

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister’s Statement 66-16(3): Northern Content In The Classroom

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. If we want northern students to be successful, we know that our schools need to reflect the unique needs, cultures, languages, and learning styles of our northern students. Curricula for all Northwest Territories grades is developed using current research and theory that we gain through participating in the Western and Northern Canadian Protocol, while staying relevant within our unique cultures, languages, and environment.

Recently we have completed a variety of new curricula and materials that provide additional northern relevance in the classroom. Experiential science is a new course at the grades 10 to 12 level that gives high school students credit for getting out on the land and encourages students to participate in community monitoring. Our communities form the foundations of experiential science and incorporate elders meetings and traditional knowledge. Experiential science was developed in consultation with elders from around the Northwest Territories to reflect those values. This course will encourage students to get involved with science and

environment related careers North of 60 and to apply their knowledge to their everyday experiences in the northern environment.

Our social studies have their roots in Western and Northern Canadian Protocol where citizenship and identity are core concepts. They include Dene, Inuvialuit, and Inuinnait perspectives. Our social studies curricula were advised by a sample of Northwest Territories teachers who used their experiences in teaching to shape courses that would be relevant to northern students.

The Grade 4 Social Studies curriculum was written in the Northwest Territories from northern perspectives. This course has many resources, including northern artefacts and materials such as furs, kimberlites, models of northern topographies, and print and audiovisual materials from First Nations perspectives.

Grade 5 Social Studies is being developed right now and will be informed by the needs of our students in becoming our future leaders. The impact of First Nations on this country will be highlighted from a historical and contemporary point of view.

At the Grade 7 Social Studies level students explore themes related to the circumpolar world. Because the Northwest Territories is the only jurisdiction to study these themes, Education, Culture and Employment redeveloped and published a resource called “The Northern Circumpolar World.” The updated version explores each country north of the 60th parallel and includes

Internet resources. The history, geography, climate, economies, people, and environment of the circumpolar world are all covered in the text and a large selection of maps. The book is available to teachers on-line at the department’s website.

Many Northwest Territories schools rely on the expertise and guidance of their community elders in organizing and facilitating any on-the-land experiences, as well as for storytelling, skills teaching, and more. Many schools include elders as regular contributors, guest speakers, and support staff in aboriginal language and culture programming.

In addition to what is provided through curricula, the aboriginal language and culture-based education directive provides guidance to education councils and authorities on the use of aboriginal language and culture funding and supports. This is based on research and understanding that shows that students will learn better and have higher self-esteem if they can see themselves and their world in what they are being taught.

We are dedicated to culture-based education. Only when our students’ northern cultures, languages, and perspectives are reflected in their education can they gain a full understanding of the world around them.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Grollier Hall Residential School Agreement With The GNWT

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My Member’s statement today is concerning the Grollier Hall Residential School Settlement Agreement with the GNWT. In the opinion of some of the claimants, the GNWT has not honoured the educational component of our agreement. This has offended some of the members of the claimant group and has prevented them from making use of their educational component. Some view this as a re-victimizing of the survivors.

In the final meeting of the parties in the spring of 2002, promises were made to the claimants negotiating group that an educational fund provided to claimants would not require repayment. This condition was not in the final document presented to the claimant groups for signing. Rather, the standard of the GNWT education funding terms were included.

There were significant disagreements between the parties about the extra terms of the educational component of the agreement. The GNWT then undertook, prior to signing, to hold individual meetings to resolve issues with the individual claimants once their particular education requirements were determined. None of this has been resolved. In my opinion the GNWT unilaterally and in breach of the agreement made changes to the legislation and policies that did not reflect the Grollier Hall Residential School Settlement Agreement.

Since that time the GNWT has tried to force certain claimants to accept the GNWT’s unilateral

interpretation of the changes. I’m very concerned about this matter and I’ll have some questions for the Minister at the appropriate time.

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Grollier Hall Residential School Agreement With The GNWT

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Pay Equity And The Federal Public Sector Equitable Compensation Act

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like today to talk about wages or, more properly, lack of appropriate wages in some instances. Last October in a Member’s statement I spoke about the NWT minimum wage; how we lag far behind the minimum wages established in other Canadian jurisdictions and of the need for the NWT to increase the minimum wage dollar amount. Has anything changed? Well, I don’t know. In October the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment advised that he would investigate the issue, so I look forward to his update and answer to my questions later on.

Women make up over half of our population and these days, especially in the North, most women are employed in the workforce. Eighty-six percent of women between the ages of 25 and 54 are in paid jobs. Yet women still do not have wage parity with men. In fact, it’s getting worse, not better.

A woman performing the same full-time work as a man will earn only 70 cents for the same dollar earned by a man. Women do not receive equal pay for work of equal value.

Most people know that a massive economic stimulus bill is being considered by our politicians in Ottawa at the moment. It’s being fast tracked and is close to passage. Why am I talking about the federal budget? Well, included in this Omnibus Budget Implementation Act is a bill called the Public Sector Equitable Compensation Act with amendments which, if passed, will put the hard-won rights of Canadian women back 40 years. It transforms pay equity into an equitable compensation issue, one that must be discussed at the employer-union bargaining table.

It will remove the right of public sector workers to file pay equity complaints with the Canadian Human Rights Commission and it would actually impose a $50,000 fine on any union or union member for encouraging or assisting their own members in filing a pay equity complaint. Since it is women who, in most cases, earn less than men, this change will knowingly impact the financial situation of women. All non-monetary amendments to acts, especially the Public Sector Equitable Compensation Act, must be removed from Bill C-10 and debated separately.

So what can be done in the NWT to improve the lot of women who work? We can ensure effective pay equity laws and use them to bring women’s wages to the same level as men’s. We can lobby for a national publicly funded not-for-profit daycare program. Statistics show that women working part

time earn considerably less in wages and pension benefits than men and suffer from an economic inequality. We can reinstate or enhance funding to women’s organizations, organizations which effectively fight for fairness for women. And last but not least we can increase minimum wage to $10 per hour and index it to inflation. That brings me back to where I started today, Mr. Speaker. I will have questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Contributions Of Nunakput Students To Global Charities

Members’ Statements

Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the year and a half I have been here, I have identified lots of problems and unique challenges in Nunakput communities. But today I am very proud of some students. In November and December, Mary Ruben-Bennett, a Grade 3 and 4 teacher, Justin Kenny, a high school teacher, and students of Angik School in Paulatuk raised over $1,000 in just a few short weeks to purchase 10 fruit trees, two goats, two rabbits, eight hens and four roasters for needy families around the world.

The students were divided into four teams: Team Nanuk, Team Ookpik, Team Amagok, and Team Kavik. Bernadette Green and Team Nanuk instantly raised $250 and challenged the other teams. Brian Trottier donated a mini hockey stick and raised $350 in raffle tickets. The money also goes to the education of two little girls, nine soccer balls and the equipment to provide clean drinking water for several families.

I find both encouragement and irony in the fact that our students help poor families to have safe, reliable drinking water. There was a great response from the community, Mr. Speaker. So many others volunteered or came out to support them.

Furthermore, this has turned out to be an annual event. Our small and remote communities and residences often restricts the limits supporting a wide number of fundraising projects due to the high cost of living, participation of youth activities such as travelling to the communities and during sporting tournaments. When you see a small community like Paulatuk has put so much effort into helping others around the world with the basic necessities of life, it must be truly celebrated. I am very proud of my students in the school in Paulatuk. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Federal Action Plan And GNWT Equivalent

Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today the honourable Jim Flaherty, Minister of Finance , launched a web page called actionplan.gc.ca. Mr. Speaker, it is a way to keep the government accountable for the way that they are spending money. It is a way that everyday Canadians can watch where their investments are going.

Mr. Speaker, just recently we passed the NWT budget for this fiscal coming year. Mr. Speaker, a lot of times, the question comes up as where does the money go from there? It is difficult for the everyday person to follow where that spending is going and how they can keep track of it. Mr. Speaker, for example, there is almost $17.5 million in energy investments coming in this year’s budget but a lot of people won’t see it or be able to follow it. I am suggesting that the Minister of Finance should consider an action plan that demonstrates quarterly reports that shows where our money is going in a plain, simple language that every person can follow.

Mr. Speaker, it is about accountability and following the money. A lot of times, this injection is needed. As we all know, with this global recession going on, the last thing we need is approved public money to sit and not do anything.

Mr. Speaker, the biggest complaint I often hear, as well, is the fact that capital money gets carried over. In my years as an MLA, I have heard every excuse in the book and it always seems to be justified in the end. This would put better pressure on the government to make sure that once they get approved money, they start spending it on the projects they promise. Mr. Speaker, this could be a better way to be more accountable by this Legislature to the everyday citizen making sure that we are spending their money the way we promised they would, both accountable and to the needs that we promised that we would solve and deal with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Concerns For Tu Nedhe Constituents

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I gave an update on items I was working on in Lutselk’e. Today I would like to update the

people of Fort Resolution on issues that I as MLA have been working on.

Mr. Speaker, working with the Minister of Transportation , it was agreed that the department would spend $6 million on a highway between Fort Resolution and Little Buffalo River, a very dangerous and rough part of the highway to Fort Resolution. Mr. Speaker, the local government has been working with the Department of MACA to construct a youth complex which will house, among other things, a summer swimming pool and a soccer pitch. In addition, Mr.

Speaker, I have been working with the Minister of MACA and the Minister of infrastructure to discuss some additional capital dollars to be allocated to the municipality so that the entire community of Fort Resolution can be chipsealed. Some money has been allocated in 2010-11 by the municipality to start the chipsealing project.

Mr. Speaker, like most communities in the NWT, housing issues consume the majority of my time. I have brought over 100 housing issues to the Minister of Education since my election. Mr. Speaker, ITI is continuing to provide support to trappers. I have discussed a few small business opportunities in Tu Nedhe with the Minister. With the new SEED money, it gives me some hope that some new businesses could start in Fort Resolution.

Mr. Speaker, I have discussed the need to provide proper industrial arts and home economic areas for the students of Deninoo School with the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . There will be a meeting with the local DEA soon. The cost of living is not as big an issue in Fort Resolution as it is in Lutselk’e, but with limited incomes in the community and the ones that cannot afford to travel to Hay River to buy their food, gasoline and other items, find it very costly in Fort Resolution.

Mr. Speaker, I have had a few meetings with the Minister of Health and Social Services to discuss better use of the great elders’ facility and will continue discussing the use of this building by the residents of Fort Resolution. I also feel the Department of Health and Social Services should have a rehabilitation aide that would be stationed in Fort Resolution to assist the therapist that is working in Fort Resolution from time to time to create continuity.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Concerns For Tu Nedhe Constituents

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, the Department of Justice advises me that the NWT will get its fair share of the Community

Policing Program, which used to be called the Special Constable Program previously. My intention is to continue my advocacy to have an officer stationed in Fort Resolution. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Concerns For Tu Nedhe Constituents

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Mandate And Role Of Bdic

Members’ Statements

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to speak again about the BDIC and its future with this government. Mr. Speaker, over the past seven years we have analyzed and reviewed the delivery of business related services in our territory to the point where these reviews have recommended some major changes. We have spent over $250,000 on reviews by Dargo and Allen and also there was the Banker’s Commission that called on government to create a one-stop loan and service delivery mechanism for clients. As these reviews and the many public meetings have indicated, this was the desired course of action.

This was done to save the public purse for paying for one organization rather than two and to give residents the one-window approach that they desired.

Mr. Speaker, I supported the creation of the BDIC because I believed that was where the government intended on taking the corporation. Mr. Speaker, here we are four years after the establishment of the BDIC and it seems to me that we have forgotten what the intent of the creation of the BDIC was all about. How many of the recommendations contained in these various reviews and analyses have ever been implemented? Why did the department of ITI maintain their control of the BDIC? This government has not followed through on recommendations or the BDIC Act itself. We have not consolidated anything.

Clients still have to go through different windows to receive service. If the BDIC was allowed to do its work, why is it that the BDIC loan portfolio is shrinking over the past three years?

Mr. Speaker, on February 24th , in answering a

question on the same subject matter, the Minister of ITI actually asked me a question: Is the Member suggesting to take all of the economic development outside of the department? Well, Mr. Speaker, in response to that question from the Minister, what I’m suggesting is that we revisit the reviews commissioned by the Department of ITI and the spirit and intent of the BDIC Act and take the required steps to get a one-window service delivery model for businesses in our Territory. This government says it’s looking at ways and areas of our operation where we might be able to achieve

efficiencies. Well, Mr. Speaker, here’s one area that I believe we can get efficiencies and improved and better access to the clients that are out there. Mahsi.

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Mandate And Role Of Bdic

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Suicide Prevention Strategy In The NWT

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to speak about the tragic facts of suicide in the NWT. I will also speak to the importance of suicide prevention.

The NWT suicide rate is twice as high as the national average. For persons who are between 15 and 64 years of age, suicide is the leading cause of accidental death in the NWT. More men than women commit suicide. In 2007, 80 percent of suicides were committed by teenagers and young men under the age of 34.

Mr. Speaker, each suicide means tragedy for an entire family, for family and friends who grieve the loss of a loved one and often feel guilty for not having been able to help the victim to stop their pain. Years ago the GNWT had a Suicide Prevention Strategy that was part of the 2004 Mental Health and Addictions Services Action Plan. In 2005, a status report on its implementation reported on suicide prevention initiatives. At that time, a Suicide Prevention Training Program for community support workers was in place. The GNWT also supported the Dreamcatcher Conference and developed two educational brochures.

Mr. Speaker, unfortunately the NWT suicide facts have not changed since 2005. Suicide is preventable. The government needs to continue and renew its Suicide Prevention Strategy. Interventions and actions must include a variety of community members; for example, family, leaders and elders. We need to build capacity within our primary health care system. We must provide counselling at a clinical level and increase counselling and skill building at the community level as well. Mr. Speaker, far before a quit smoking hotline, we need a suicide hotline.

Mr. Speaker, suicide and suicide attempts is not our culture, it’s not our tradition. Let’s work together to prevent suicide. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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Suicide Prevention Strategy In The NWT

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Recognition Of Ecology North Contributions And Volunteers

Members’ Statements

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to draw attention to Ecology North and the work it does for the well-being of people in the Northwest Territories. Ecology North is a non-profit, charitable organization that supports sound environmental decision-making on individual and community levels. Ecology North’s central focus is public education. Its programs address three priorities: public awareness of environmental issues, sustainable living and climate change. It enjoys productive partnerships with community organizations such as the Centre for Northern Families, the Native Women’s Association, the Yellowknife Community Garden Collective, NWT Recreation and Parks, as well as local schools.

Ecology North organizes a full

schedule of events to recognize Earth Week in April and a sustainable living fair at Yellowknife’s annual Trade Show. It’s Youth Ecology Club promotes awareness of environmental challenges and possible solutions among the upcoming generation of northern citizens.

Throughout the year, Ecology North offers workshops on energy efficiency, sustainable living tours that showcase ways to increase energy efficiency in homes and business. Its rent-a-plate services featured at Folk on the Rocks provides a means of reducing the amount of waste created by disposable dishes at large social gatherings. Natural history events help Northerners gain a better appreciation of our physical surroundings.

The Northwest Territories is not a cold and inhospitable wasteland but a network of delicately balanced and perfectly adapted ecosystems. Ecology North frequently organizes workshops, film screenings and school presentations on climate change and helps local and regional governments find practical means to respond to climate change.

Mr. Speaker, the ultimate goal of Ecology North’s programs is to promote environmental and social well-being. In our technologically advanced society it’s easy to neglect our relationship with the natural world. It would be impossible to meet in this House or debate or even conduct the activities of our daily lives if it were not for clean air and drinking water, an adequate food supply and a means of transport and heating our shelters. These are extremely basic elements of life, but the ways that human activity encroaches on wild spaces and fresh water supply are becoming increasingly apparent as is the need for sustainable energy sources.

Mr. Speaker, volunteers are at the heart of Ecology North. I would like to thank the many Northerners

who have offered their insight and expertise to the organization since its beginnings in 1971. It is a prime example of a group of people who think globally and act locally. Let’s show our continued support for their initiatives and make the North a leader in sustainable living. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Transfer Of The Public Housing Subsidy To Local Housing Authorities

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On March 4th the House passed a motion requesting

that the government once again place the Public Housing Rental Subsidy Program under the control of the local housing organizations. I supported that motion and I am hoping that the departments hear our calls and act quickly to rectify this avoidable burden on our communities

Subsequent to our action, the Yellowknives Dene First Nation passed a band council resolution on March 9th adding weight that will hopefully help

expedite the government’s response to this issue. The Yellowknives Dene Band Council resolution tabled in the House yesterday reads:

Whereas, the current delivery of the GNWT Education, Culture and Employment Public Housing Rent Subsidy Program creates administrative problems for the Yellowknives Dene First Nation housing division; And

whereas, the requirement of travelling to Yellowknife every month to assess rents under this PHRS Program places a burden on the Yellowknives Dene First Nation members; And

whereas, the involvement of ECE has weakened the relationship between the Yellowknives Dene First Nation housing division and tenants; And

whereas, rent assessments were more timely and accurate when they were performed by the Yellowknives Dene First Nation housing division; Therefore,

be it resolved that ECE revert to the old system where the Yellowknives Dene First Nation local housing authority assesses the band member’s monthly income to determine rent.

Mr. Speaker, forcing people to travel from Dettah and Ndilo to downtown Yellowknife to deal with their monthly housing bills is wasting people’s time and energy. Furthermore, it is forcing people who are not on income support to visit the income support office, which can be uncomfortable and cause further undue stress. It is hardly the one-stop shopping approach that the government refers to and that these communities used to enjoy for the housing needs.

Mr. Speaker, let’s show our people that we have heard them and implement the obvious solution to this problem as soon as possible. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Federal Government Funding For Housing

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to speak about the $50 million that we received from the federal government in regard to housing in the Northwest Territories which has to be expended over the next two years.

Mr. Speaker, this is a perfect opportunity for this government to take concerns raised in this House from groups such as Persons with Disabilities, the Seniors’ Society of the Northwest Territories and also from our communities in regard to finding ways to have barrier-free housing built in our communities to assist people with disabilities, people that are in wheelchairs, the aging population in our communities, but, more importantly, Mr. Speaker, to ensure that we basically have the infrastructure in our communities.

Mr. Speaker, it has been some time since this government has put in seniors housing in our communities and I’ve heard my colleague in regard to the situation in Holman Island, I’ve heard the same thing in regard to the Joe Greenland Centre in Aklavik and finding ways to replace these facilities, and also find facilities for the communities.

Mr. Speaker, the government has already implemented seniors’ housing in communities in regard to Dettah, Ndilo, Fort McPherson, other communities which already have a blueprint on the drawing board where they own the blueprint, they have built these facilities already, so there’s no need to go back to the drawing board. We have two years to expend this money and I’d like to recommend to the government that they consider putting seniors care facilities in our communities and also have barrier-free houses built for people with disabilities in our communities.

I think it’s a totally perfect opportunity for this government to do what I’ve stated, because we have seniors in our social housing system who have gotten themselves into a situation where there’s no one there taking care of them. There’s no family members allowed to live with them because there is a burden on that senior when it comes to assessing rent. I think we have to get away from that. We have to develop seniors facilities where there is safe, secure housing for seniors, and have a system where we have caretakers in those units.

We need to have a system where it’s located on one side of town rather than seniors spread out all over the community. That’s the type of care the seniors are asking for and the type of housing I’d like this government to seriously consider with the $50 million we have to spend over the next two years.

With that, I will be asking the Minister of Housing if that can be part of the priorities put forward in spending this $50 million.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Congratulations To Ms. Irene Lafferty

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to recognize and acknowledge one of my constituents, Ms. Irene Lafferty of Fort Providence. Irene is one of the client service officers for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and she began her career with the Government of the Northwest Territories in 1974 as a field service clerk. After 35 years of public service she has decided to retire.

Irene has held many different job titles with our government over the years. Too many for us to count, she tells me. I’ve had the opportunity to work with her for several years and certainly attest to her dedication to her job and her positive work ethics, she has demonstrated to others throughout her career.

This Friday we will take the time to celebrate with her friends and family in Fort Providence. She then plans to take some time to do some travelling and she also tells me she’s planning to do a whole lot of relaxing.

I’d like to take this opportunity to invite my colleagues in this House in expressing our sincere appreciation of Irene’s dedication and commitment to public service. I would like to wish her all the best in her well deserved retirement.

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Congratulations To Ms. Irene Lafferty

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Acknowledging The Contributions Of Shirley And Sharon Firth

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to speak about Sharon and Shirley Firth, both long-time Olympic athletes, and what they have strived to do since their days as Olympic athletes.

Both are role models. Both are visionary. Both strive to promote and encourage healthy lifestyles and community wellness, particularly among youth. They have both visited every school in the Northwest Territories promoting excellence in both body and mind, with persistence and dedication to the empowerment of youth. I know they will carry this passion on for generations to come. Both strive to build self-confidence, teach teamwork, build character, teach focus, and encourage the youth to set goals, dream big, and to be the best they can be.

Through role model tours they have also brought cross-country skiing to every school in the Northwest Territories and taught the youth cross-country skiing. Both are great ambassadors for the Northwest Territories. Both have always promoted the Northwest Territories and continue to put the Northwest Territories on the map, so to speak.

Some of their major accomplishments include the role model tour, as I mentioned, to all 33 communities; they were inducted into the Banff Sports Hall of Fame in 2008; I think Sharon was a presenter at the APTN Aboriginal Country Music Awards in 2008; they participated with Governor General Michaelle Jean at the Inuvik Youth Forum in 2008; and on the national stage both are recipients of Aboriginal Achievement Awards -- I believe Sharon received it in 2005 and Shirley in 2006.

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Acknowledging The Contributions Of Shirley And Sharon Firth

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize Shirley and Sharon Firth.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I’d like to recognize Todd Parsons, president of the UNW and a constituent of the Great Slave riding.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

I, as well, would like to recognize a constituent from Thebacha, Mr. Brad Brake.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . I would like to welcome everyone in the gallery

today. I hope you’re enjoying the proceedings. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just so that Barb doesn’t feel left out, I just want to recognize Barb Wyness from UNW.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker. I just want to follow up on my Member’s statement with regard to Suicide Prevention Strategy in the NWT. I know that in its efforts to quit smoking they undertook this whole quit smoking hotline, but far before that I believe we should have had a suicide hotline. I’d like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services if the Department of Health and Social Services has a current NWT Suicide Prevention Strategy.

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

Oral Questions

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m pleased to advise the Member that the department does invest a substantial amount of money in this area other than the regular core funding that we provide on mental health and wellness. We spend about a million dollars a year on suicide prevention and part of that funding goes to NWT Mental Health Association, who administers a NWT Help Line where anyone who is in distress or needs someone to talk to can call any day from anywhere in the Territories between 7:00 to 9:00, I believe, every evening.

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I’m given to take that is the current status of the NWT Suicide Prevention Strategy? That Health and Social Services is not involved, but it’s more of a devolved program into the different mental health centres that are out there? What is the current status of the NWT Suicide Prevention Strategy?

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

I should correct that; the NWT Help Line is open between 7:00 to 11:00.

We do have a Suicide Prevention Strategy much like the Member described in his Member’s statement. We fund a lot of community groups to work on suicide prevention. We do capacity building. We have provided training to about 20 individuals across the NWT so that they can

strengthen their skills to work with the groups and youth to talk about the issue of suicide prevention.

When there were some teenage suicides last year, that was highly publicized. There were youth that were provided support to have discussion among youth. We do continue to fund the Dreamcatchers Conference. We get funding through the National Aboriginal Youth Suicide Prevention Strategy.

So there is multifaceted programming that’s working with the groups in the communities, especially in the youth suicide prevention.

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I’m glad that the resources are there within the Department of Health and Social Services to work towards the prevention of suicide. I’m raising this issue because I don’t see it advertised or promoted out there. And if I don’t see it, do the members of the public see it? So once again, could the Minister of Health and Social Services tell me what initiatives and actions the Department of Health and Social Services currently undertakes to support suicide prevention?

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

I think the Member is correct in thinking that it would be helpful for the department to be able to promote more of the activities that are going on. Sometimes you’re busy doing your job and not necessarily promoting. I’ll just assure the Member that we have what’s called a steering committee made up of various departments -- Education, Health and Social Services, NGOs, community groups -- who work on the strategy implementation, helping the communities, as well as publicizing and making the public more aware. I will follow up on that to make sure that people are more aware of what is available.

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

Oral Questions

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Final supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

Oral Questions

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’m glad to hear that commitment, because in our small communities and regions people just don’t know where to reach out if it’s not handy there. That kind of exposure and promotion has to be foremost of the Department of Health and Social Services when it comes to the Suicide Prevention Program. Does the Department of Health and Social Services still provide the Northwest Territories Suicide Prevention Training Program at the community level? Mahsi.

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Yes, we do. It’s under assist training program where last year 20 individuals were trained to be trainers so that they could work with the community groups. We are planning on having another training program in the spring of 2009, which will be the next level of skills training program. I will make sure that when that sort of

work is going on -- and we do a lot of work with youth in schools and communities -- that those will get more advertised. That’s something that we need to talk about, because the department is very much aware that we continue to have a very high rate of suicide. Per population we have about anywhere from nine to 11 a year.

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Question 307-16(3): Suicide Prevention Strategy

Oral Questions

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

Oral Questions

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Just recently we passed the budget and I’d like to know if the Minister has any plans to create a strategy and a webpage that demonstrates how this territorial government is infusing cash into our economy at a much needed time such as we’re going through now.

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister responsible for Finance , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As government practice, of course we’ll be doing the regular variance reports. Every department and every Minister will be looking at the work plans that they brought forward to the House and to the committees as they go into the communities to deliver the programs. We will be doing regular statements and updates in the House when we do our community travels, which are going to be extensive. We will be speaking to the needs, programs, and expenditures that have been approved by this House. We have a whole wide variety of ways that we will disseminate this information.

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

The Minister is correct about the variance reports, but it’s been my experience you have to be quite a knowledgeable person to be able to follow those. The challenge really is, is it in everyday plain language for the average person to be able to say, hey, I see where this money is

going, the Minister said there would be $17.5 million invested in environment issues. I can follow it. Here’s the investment.

What would stop the Minister of Finance from creating a website under the fundamentals of just plain language explaining where the highway money is going, where the environment money is going, where the infrastructure money is going, in plain language that the everyday person can follow?

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

The Government of the Northwest Territories has a number of websites. Most departments do as well, I believe. What I’ll commit to do is talk to the officials and the deputy about the possibility to see what could be improved on those websites.

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I appreciate that commitment in looking at that. Would the Minister be able to commit to an action plan somewhat similar that the federal government Finance Minister is doing to make sure that all Northerners can follow where their infrastructure money is being spent? Would he be able to commit to some type of review into that process and report back to this House by May to let our people know where their money is going and they can follow it?

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

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Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

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Question 308-16(3): Public Accountability Process For NWT Budget

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 309-16(3): Achievement And Goals Of Bdic Act

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ve got some questions today for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment . Again getting back to my Member’s statement where I was speaking of the BDIC, it was four years ago that the Government of the Northwest Territories took the Business Credit Corporation and the Business Development Corporation and rolled them into one under

an act called the BDIC Act. This happened for a couple of reasons. It was in an effort to become more efficient and to save some money and it was also to get to the one-window approach for business-related services provided in our Territory. Here we are four years later and I just don’t see the proof that we’ve acted on recommendations and actually achieved what it is we want to achieve.

I’d like to ask the Minister, the first question I’d have is, how much money has the BDIC and the government saved by bringing the two former organizations -- the BCC and the BDC -- together under one roof?

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The consolidation of the BDIC was not a money-saving matter and it was not intended to save money by combining the two.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I was a Member of the last government and to me that was always a part of the equation. It was to get the one window, it was to find efficiencies, and it was to deliver programs and services to people in the Northwest Territories in a more efficient manner. Again, we’re not there. People have to go to multiple windows to receive the same level of service. This was premised on reports that the department itself conducted. I talked about them earlier. Dargo, Allen, there was a number of recommendations in those reviews.

I’d like to ask the Minister how many of those recommendations in the reviews commission by his department has the government actually acted upon?

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Question 309-16(3): Achievement And Goals Of Bdic Act

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We act on all reports that we commissioned and in my view we have a one-window approach that is working very well with regard to promoting economic development in the Northwest Territories.

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Question 309-16(3): Achievement And Goals Of Bdic Act

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I’d like to ask the Minister why it is that the BDIC loan portfolio over the last three years is shrinking. Why is that trend there and what does the Minister perceive for the future of the BDIC loan portfolio?

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Question 309-16(3): Achievement And Goals Of Bdic Act

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

The loan portfolio has shrunk for a number of reasons, predominantly because of the Auditor General’s requirements to reduce the loan loss provisions and to tighten up on the accounting. I think with the expansion of the lending authorities to lending officers into the regions and communities, you’ll see the loan activities increase as well.

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Question 309-16(3): Achievement And Goals Of Bdic Act

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of the Housing

Corporation in regard to my statement and the consideration of the $50 million we’re going to be spending over the next two years. Seriously consider spending those dollars on housing in communities that are barrier-free or user friendly to people with disabilities. We do have people right now in our communities who are in wheelchairs or whatnot, but the housing that they’re living in is not designed for people with disabilities. They are not barrier-free. The same thing applies to our aging seniors in our communities who are having mobility problems but our housing is not designed for that.

I’d like to ask the Minister, is there going to be any housing built in our communities with the $50 million for barrier-free houses so that we have these houses available in our communities?

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, the short answer is yes. It’s already built into our programs that we utilize, whether it’s a renovation program or private homeownership program. It’s designed for a disabled person or family with somebody who’s disabled or a senior we allow for a barrier-free access.

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Also in my Member’s statement I made reference to seniors care facilities in our communities in which, especially nowadays with the whole area of having safe and secure housing for seniors, but more importantly having seniors located in one facility in the community where you have a caretaker in the facility who can ensure that the well-being of the seniors are being taken care of.

I’d like to ask the Minister, knowing that previously the situation with seniors at housing by way of care facilities were mostly in line with Health and Social Services, but with these dollars can we build seniors facilities in communities for such a thing as seniors care facilities so that seniors can live in one location and have the caretaker in those facilities so that they can be taken care of?

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

We already build seniors facilities. We build houses that seniors utilize. We build barrier-free facilities for seniors. And we also invest in a lot of communities with a program focused on independent seniors. We have not seen the criteria for the new dollars. We currently don’t invest in seniors facilities that require ongoing O and M. We do not have new dollars to do that. But we certainly can have the discussion with the Department of Health to see what our avenues are once the discussion negotiations with the federal government for the new money are finished.

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

In regard to the...I wasn’t clear on the Minister’s response on the first question. My understanding is that right now most public housing that are built in the communities are not barrier-free. In regard to having someone with a disability or in a wheelchair, you usually have to build a ramp. Basically that’s all you do to a public housing unit. I’d like to ask again if you are considering building social housing units for social housing clients and people with disabilities, barrier-free housing in our communities.

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Yes. The answer to his question, as I indicated before, is we currently design and build houses to accommodate people with disabilities. We also work with seniors to make sure the facilities are suited to their needs and will continue to do so.

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regard to the $50 million that the Minister mentioned and how it’s going to get laid out, we don’t have an idea of where it’s going to be spent and where those dollars are going to go. Can the Minister give Members on this side of the House an opportunity to look through how that $50 million is going to be spent, but, more importantly, consider the issues that I raised here of having barrier-free housing and seniors care facilities in our communities using the $50 million that’s going to be spent on this item?

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Yes, again, that’s a commitment I’ve already made in this House. I indicated to the Member as soon as our negotiations are concluded and we have formally made an agreement that we are going to receive the money, we will bring a plan and lay out some of the allocations that we see that are based on needs, community projects that we feel are going to be required in the community, and then we’ll go to the Members for discussion.

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Question 310-16(3): Federal Funding For Housing

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 311-16(3): Social Services And Child Care Issues

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to start by acknowledging the hard work and dedication of many of our social services and child care services personnel. However, I have a constituent where it seems clear that our social services have not served them and specifically their children well. In custody cases, for example, children may be placed in the care of one parent, but it’s not always the healthiest parent that they’re in care of and thus there are consequences.

I’d like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services if there is a routine review of these sensitive social services and child care cases.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m going to need, I think, more information on that. I don’t know if the Member can give it. As far as I’m aware, the custody decision as to where the child remains and who that child remains with would be a decision made by the court. Unless it has to do with other information, that is my understanding. The social workers or children and family services would not have much role in that.

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Question 311-16(3): Social Services And Child Care Issues

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Indeed, the courts play a large role here. However, the situation can be exasperated if social services do not recognize what’s happened. If the court, for example, places the children under the care of an unhealthy parent and a healthy, frustrated parent is left with that situation, often looking after the children who are not then being looked after by the unhealthy parent, social services is not stepping in to help with this situation. Obviously the children then put up with the consequences.

There’s an obvious role for social services to step in. Is there a review of that sort of case and that sort of situation? What’s our safeguard there?

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Question 311-16(3): Social Services And Child Care Issues

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

The children and family services and the legislation that governs that gives much emphasis to the best interests of the children. They do investigate wherever there are complaints or concerns being raised by anyone. I’m not clear, without knowing all the details, what level or to what extent the social services should be involved in this specific case. If the Member wants to give me some more details in private, understanding the confidentiality, I would be happy to look into that.

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Question 311-16(3): Social Services And Child Care Issues

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I appreciate that offer of the Minister. I’ll definitely be speaking to the Minister about cases that I’m aware of. Let me ask plainly, are there internal reviews routinely and when is the last time that we had a comprehensive review of our child care services?

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Question 311-16(3): Social Services And Child Care Issues

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

There is ongoing review on much of the work that this

section does in terms of legislation review. We went through a major review of the legislation in 2007 and the enactments of some of the changes that allowed for even more review of any apprehension of children and such. But I think what the Member is talking about is a situation where there are two disputes or differences of opinion about where the children are and how they are being taken care of. We’ll have to

know the details as to whether it’s a case that social services should get involved in. I’ll just leave it at that and I’ll ask the Member to get together in private.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for the offer from the Minister. Once again, I guess there is some review on legislation. I didn’t hear that there is a review of performance or the actual services that are provided to our people.

I’m wondering, given that there is a strong opinion and probably information that men are often behind some of the causes in family strife, at least at the NWT level, and apparently that’s being debated at the national level leading to more interest in equal parenting and so on, but there is a possibility that there is a gender bias against men because of that sort of background information. Is the Minister aware of that sort of thing or does she have programs in place to guard against the gender bias that might present?

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Question 311-16(3): Social Services And Child Care Issues

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

The work of the social services and child and family services generally are principally based on what is in the best interest of the child. I know there are some thoughts out there about some biases, but I think, in general, social services and everybody else wants to make sure that children get access, support and love from everybody around them. We have to look at individual situations on a case-by-case basis. These are such highly emotional and sensitive issues that there are checks and balances within the system.

Social workers work as a team. There are a number of people working in any division of Social Services across the Territories and cases are reviewed by supervisors or their supervisors. They are continually reviewed. Those checks and balances are within the system in terms of legislation as well as policies and directives. I would be happy to discuss further on that, Mr. Speaker, with the Member. Thank you.

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Question 311-16(3): Social Services And Child Care Issues

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Several sessions ago I asked questions of the Minister of the cost of fishing licences. Retail outlets have expressed some

frustration with the high amount of paperwork required and the fact that they pretty much get zero profit for selling them. Further, the cost of licences for out-of-territory visitors is incredibly low in the Northwest Territories compared to other jurisdictions and it is even low for residents of the Northwest Territories compared to other jurisdictions. Has any thought been given to increasing the cost of fishing licences in the Northwest Territories? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the budget address, there was reference made to the need to look at the rates and fees charged across government in our initial review as we were looking at putting the budget together. Fees and rates charged have not been touched in many cases for decades, as is the case with fishing licences. The intent and plan is across departments, including ENR with fishing licences, to look at the costs and look at a way in a carefully planned way with thorough consultation to make the rates more realistic and in tune with the 21st century. Thank you.

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thanks to the Minister for that response. I was wondering if the Minister can give me a bit of a timeline as to when he thinks this might start to roll out and the analysis might be done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We are working on the issue as we speak. We will be building that type of work going forward into the upcoming business planning process. There is not sufficient time to do all the work that is necessary and the consultation necessary, we believe, for this coming fishing season, but we are definitely planning for the fishing season of 2010-11.

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

As I said in my first question there, one of the areas that I am getting a lot of concern raised is from the people who are actually selling the fishing licences. I was wondering if I can get the Minister to commit that, in this review, they meet with some of the people who are currently selling the fishing licences, because they get no profit and it is actually a significant amount of paperwork, kind of a hassle. They would like to continue to sell fishing licences but the way we are set up now, it is not very appealing. So a commitment to meeting with some of the suppliers and getting some feedback and information from them to help make a decision would be great. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The Member raises a good point. We have already had those

discussions and will continue to have further discussions. I will point out that I am going to be pushing the department to see if there is something possible before the onset of fishing season this year, but at the very latest -- additional time is required -- we will be looking at the following year. We intend to consult. We recognize it is a burden with very little remuneration. It is an issue that we want to address. Thank you.

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Question 312-16(3): Increase Of Fishing Licence Fees In The NWT

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 313-16(3): Increase On NWT Minimum Wage

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . I spoke in my Member’s statement about the minimum wage and that the Minister had advised me some time ago that he was going to look into whether or not the minimum wage for the NWT could be increased. I had some communication from his department which says that the department was looking into that. I understand from the department and from the Minister’s office that the research has been concluded. I would like to know from the Minister, what were the results of their research? Were there any recommendations that came out of that research as a result of the research? Thank you.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 313-16(3): Increase On NWT Minimum Wage

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Certainly minimum wages have gone up in the last session and I did commit that we will be looking into potentially increasing that minimum wage at that time. I did approach the Cabinet on Education, Culture and Employment’s approach on how we should be dealing with this with our research from across the country. Each province is different with their minimum wages. Certainly we are doing an analysis on the impacts on the proposed change on minimum wage with various employers. At that time, providing minimum wage, what kind of impact will there be? We are currently doing that right now. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I thank the Minister for his information, but I guess that sort of contradicts the information that I got from his department a couple of months ago, which indicated that they had made a decision and were taking a decision to Cabinet. Could I get clarification from the Minister? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, the paper that we submitted to Cabinet was our department’s recommendation of increasing. At that

point in time, we need to do more work and do more analysis with more businesses out in the communities which have potential impact on their business operations. We are currently doing that. We are hoping before next session we are going to have some paper to come forward. Mahsi.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you to the Minister for the clarification. I guess I am a little disappointed if Cabinet requires more research and that they didn’t just take the recommendation of the department, but there we are. I guess I would like to say first of all, in terms of the impact on businesses, there are not many businesses in the NWT that actually pay the current minimum wage. It is pretty minimal. I think it is $8.25. I am a little surprised that we have to do that much research. The Minister says that he is going to come back in the next session hopefully.

If we don’t get a recommendation to committee in May/June, when does the Minister think that we could perhaps have an increase in minimum wage actually implemented? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, certainly it is the target for May/June sitting. If all goes well, we are hoping to implement in the fall. That is part of our target that we are working with. We are just doing some more work with small businesses. Certainly we want to cover all areas as much as possible before we make any changes that will benefit the North. Mahsi.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you to the Minister. I appreciate the department and the government is trying to be thorough. That is probably better than them not being thorough. As part of the analysis and part of the ongoing work that is being done, are they considering how an increase to minimum wage will be adjusted in the future? Will it be tied to inflation, for instance, or to the cost of living? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, those are the factors that we will be taking into consideration. One of the primary causes, of course, is the high cost of living in the Northwest Territories, so those will be taken into consideration. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for the Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 314-16(3): Grollier Hall Residential School Agreement

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment if he would commit to looking at the

Grollier Hall Residential School Settlement Agreement with the claimants and having a review of the overall agreement, and look at the different components that seem to be in dispute between the department and the claimants in terms of having investigated, and sit down with, potentially, his department to see where the agreement has fallen off track in accordance to some of the claimants.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Certainly I can get my department to look into that. We need to find out if there is an agreement in place. I have been asking my department if there is such an agreement that was signed by all parties. To date, we haven’t produced the documentation as of yet, but we are waiting for that and certainly we will follow through with that again. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, certainly this has been an area of ongoing discussion that my department has been going through with some parties of the claimant groups. I did commit to the Member that we will follow through with that on an ongoing basis. We need to see the actual agreement that was initially signed because we have to work with the documentation. If there is no documentation, it is very difficult for us to act on it. There might have been some negotiations between the parties. We need to get more clarification on the legality of it. Those are the ongoing discussions that we are having within our department. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I do appreciate the Minister’s willingness to look at the agreement in terms of discussions. He also needs to have some discussions with the claimant members. Would the Minister commit to extending the agreement beyond 2012 due to a lack of progress of the

implementation of this agreement? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, the agreement the Member is referring to, we need to look at the agreement he is referring to. The 2012, we can certainly discuss that but, as a department, we need to look at those agreements. As long as it is before us, then we can proceed further. I can certainly commit to the Member that we will continue to work as a department and work with the Member and also the claimant group. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Through the hard work of the various department members, the Roman Catholic Church, the residential school, members from the Grollier Hall Healing Circle, through blood, sweat and tears, the negotiating that happened in the time of the agreement, there was a negotiation happening. Agreements were all agreed. I was there to witness the handshakes. The agreement was signed. I would help the Minister look for the agreement. The agreement is there. It is being administered. I appreciate the Minister’s response in terms of looking at a review. I hope that this review happens within the year to settle these outstanding issues with the specific clause to his department.

Mr. Speaker, again, I would ask the Minister to instruct his department officials to contact the various parties. Could he contact the various parties to bring them together and sit down and talk about the original agreement that was negotiated and agreed upon?

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I did commit to that already. We continue to have a dialogue. At the same time, Mr. Speaker, we are waiting for a document that was signed as the Member has alluded to. If there is such a document that was signed, I would like to see it and would like to move on it. If there is, then certainly that will be our obligation to move forward on. But I haven’t seen a document to date yet. Certainly I am looking forward to seeing the document. Yes, we will continue working with the Member on this particular subject. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 315-16(3): Support For NWT Manufacturing Sector

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a few more questions for the Minister of Industry ,

Tourism and Investment. Back in 1996, the Government of the Northwest Territories came forward with an interim manufacturing directive. Somewhere along the way I think we have lost the purpose of this manufacturing directive. I think it is time that the Government of the Northwest Territories started supporting what little manufacturing we have here in the Northwest Territories. The money has to stay here in the Northwest Territories, Mr. Speaker. I have manufacturing companies in the Kam Lake Industrial Park who are losing business to southern companies. Mr.

Speaker, I don’t think it should matter if we have to pay a little bit more to get goods that are manufactured in the Northwest Territories. The money is going to stay here, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister, what work is the government doing on getting the Government of the Northwest Territories in its procurement practices to buy more and buy manufactured goods from the Northwest Territories, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

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Question 315-16(3): Support For NWT Manufacturing Sector

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Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Question 315-16(3): Support For NWT Manufacturing Sector

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do have an existing NWT manufacturing directive that was spawned out of the Business Incentive Policy. That directive still is in existence and basically NWT manufacturers can apply for recognition as an approved NWT manufacturer and, at that time, the government would make it a priority for purchasing. As well, under the new SEED program, we have written to the standing committee and asked them for direction as to what should be established as priorities.

One of the possibilities that we have identified was manufacturing in the Northwest Territories should be designated as a priority sector to be developed. We are still waiting for a response. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 315-16(3): Support For NWT Manufacturing Sector

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

If the government is going off of the spirit and the intent of this interim manufacturing directive, what recourse do companies have that lose contracts on goods that are actually manufactured in the Northwest Territories when the work