Debates of Oct. 7th, 2015

This is page numbers 6757 - 6826 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was health .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Nwt Public Service

Skills 4 Success

Report On The Northwest Territories Power Corporation

Nwt Transportation Strategy

Member's Statement On Housing Needs And Availability In The Nwt

Member's Statement On Recognition Of Order Of The Nwt Recipient - Mr. Bruce Green

Member's Statement On Reflection On Time As A Member Of The Legislative Assembly Of The Nwt

Member's Statement On Nursing And Policing Services In Tsiigehtchic

Member's Statement On Support For Consensus Government In The Nwt

Member's Statement On Mental Illness Awareness Week

Member's Statement On Economic Potential In Sahtu Region

Member's Statement On Mental Health Programs And Services In Nahendeh Region

Member's Statement On Ministerial Travel Claims

Member's Statement On World Homeless Day, October 10th

Member's Statement On Condolences To The Family Of Mr. Jonas Beaulieu Of Fort Resolution

Member's Statement On Recognition Of Order Of The Nwt Recipient - Sonny Macdonald

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Mr. Gino Pin - Order Of The Nwt

Mr. Gerald W. Kisoun - 2015 Governor General's Polar Medal Award

Economic Potential In Sahtu Region

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

Policing Services In Tsiigehtchic

Fort Simpson Access Road Streetlights

Travel And Expense Claims By Elected Officials

Business Incentive Policy

Feasibility Study Of Universal Affordable Daycare In The Nwt

Greenhouse Gas Strategy 2011

Cost Of Cleanup Of Cantung Mine

Crime And Bootlegging In Nwt Communities

Homelessness Programs In The Deh Cho

Mr. Bromley's Reply

Ms. Bisaro's Reply

Mr. Moses' Reply

Committee Report 22-17(5): Report On The Review Of The Office Of The Northwest Territories Languages Commissioner Annual Reports For 2011-2012, 2012-2013 And 2013-2014

Motion That Committee Report 22-17(5) Be Deemed Read And Printed In Hansard

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 22-17(5)

Committee Report 23-17(5): Standing Committee On Government Operations Report On Transition Matters

Motion That Committee Report 23-17(5) Be Deemed Read And Printed In Hansard

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 23-17(5)

Committee Report 24-17(5): Passing The Mace: Recommendations To The 18th Legislative Assembly

Motion To Receive And Adopt Committee Report 24-17(5)

Bill 55: Mental Health Act

Committee Report 25-17(5): Report On The Review Of Bill 55: Mental Health Act

Motion That Committee Report 25-17(5) Be Deemed Read And Printed In Hansard

Motion To Receive And Move Committee Report 25-17(5) Into Committee Of The Whole

Tabled Document 344-17(5): 2014 Public Service Annual Report TABLED DOCUMENT 345-17(5): NWT TRANSPORTATION REPORT CARD 2015 TABLED DOCUMENT 346-17(5): FOLLOW-UP CORRESPONDENCE FOR Oral Question 919-17(5): DISCUSSION PAPER ON ENERGY EFFICIENCY ACT

Tabled Document 347-17(5): Skills 4 Success - 10-year Strategic Framework TABLED DOCUMENT 348-17(5): 2014-2015 ANNUAL REPORT ON OFFICIAL LANGUAGES - Government of the northwest territories

Tabled Document 349-17(5): Government Of The Northwest Territories Contracts Over $5,000 Report For The Fiscal Year Ending March 31, 2015 TABLED DOCUMENT 350-17(5): NWT BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT CORPORATION 2014-2015 ANNUAL REPORT TABLED DOCUMENT 351-17(5): NWT BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT CORPORATION 2015-2016 CORPORATE PLAN

Tabled Document 352-17(5): Annual Report Of The Director Of Child And Family Services 2014-2015

Tabled Document 353-17(5): Passing The Mace: Recommendations To The 18th Legislation Assembly - Report Of The Special Committee On Transition Matters

Tabled Document 354-17(5): Cbc News Report: Province To Lower Food Prices In Remote Northern Manitoba

Tabled Document 355-17(5): 2015 Northwest Territories Human Rights Act Comprehensive Review TABLED DOCUMENT 356-17(5): MOVING FORWARD - IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 2015 COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE NWT

Medical Travel Policy

Recorded Vote

Bill 72: Supplementary Appropriation Act (operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2015-2016

Consideration In Committee Of The Wholeof Bills And Other Matters

Report Of The Committee Of The Whole

Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery(reversion)

Bill 45:

An Act To Amend The Workers' Compensation Act

Bill 49:

An Act To Amend The Deh Cho Bridge Act

Bill 56: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2015

Bill 59: Estate Administration Law Amendment Act

Bill 60:

An Act To Amend The Motor Vehicles Act, No. 2

Bill 62:

An Act To Amend The Coroners Act

Bill 61:

An Act To Amend The Public Airports Act

Bill 63:

An Act To Amend The Victims Of Crime Act

Bill 64:

An Act To Amend The Co-operative Associations Act

Bill 65:

An Act To Amend The Safety Act

Bill 68:

An Act To Amend The Child And Family Services Act, No. 2

Bill 69:

An Act To Amend The Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act, No. 2

Bill 72: Supplementary Appropriation Act (operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2015-2016

Recorded Vote

Speaker's Ruling

Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Hon. Tom Beaulieu , Ms. Bisaro , Mr. Blake , Mr. Bouchard , Mr. Bromley , Mr. Dolynny , Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Hawkins , Hon. Jackie Jacobson , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. Menicoche , Hon. Michael Miltenberger , Mr. Moses , Mr. Nadli , Hon. David Ramsay , Mr. Yakeleya

The House met at 1:32 p.m.

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Prayer

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Minister of Human Resources , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Minister's Statement 239-17(5): Nwt Public Service

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, throughout the term of the 17 th Legislative Assembly and guided by 20/20: A Brilliant North, the NWT Public Service Strategic Plan, this government has made it a priority to ensure that the public service is prepared to meet the needs of Northerners now and in the future.

Residents of the NWT want to share in the benefits of an economically stable, well-governed territory. They want a healthy, educated population able to participate fully in a diversified, sustainable economy. They want an independent North built on partnerships and responsible stewardship that will sustain present and future generations. The GNWT is committed to helping our residents achieve these aspirations for themselves, their families and their communities by providing the right support, programs and services to the public.

Northerners are now exercising devolved authorities and responsibilities for public lands, water and resources. A public service with the capacity to meet our growing role in our own development is more important now than ever before.

Later today, at the appropriate time, I will table the 2014 Public Service Annual Report. This report, the last during the term of the 17 th Assembly, provides information on the management, composition and development of the public service and highlights some significant achievements of the 2014 calendar year.

It was an important year in the political development of the NWT. The GNWT underwent considerable reorganization as we assumed new authorities and responsibilities for the management of public lands, water and resources, and the public service was engaged to meet the challenges. We also saw the

successful completion of initiatives to standardize GNWT transactional processes improving consistency and efficiency.

Mr. Speaker, we continue to focus on the recruitment, retention and development of an effective, responsive workforce representative of the people it serves. Human resource management accountability is taking on an increasingly important role as we seek to align personnel management with service outcomes and modern global best practices.

We are developing a home-grown labour force to support our economic development. Through the Regional Recruitment Program, 16 residents have been appointed to trainee positions throughout the NWT in the communities of Inuvik, Fort Simpson, Fort Liard, Fort Providence and Fort Smith.

We are also preparing the next generation of employees by supporting northern youth in their transition from school to the workplace and the beginning of their professional careers. The GNWT had another successful Summer Student Employment Program with departments and agencies hiring 341 students in 2015. Of the 341 summer students hired, 55 percent were indigenous Aboriginal and 44 percent were indigenous non-Aboriginal. We have also hired 22 northern graduates as interns.

The continued development and prosperity of the NWT depends on educated youth, and our hopes that they return home to the North when their studies are complete to meet our current and future occupational shortages and to become role models for future generations.

Mr. Speaker, we reaffirm learning and development of our employees as an ongoing priority. We work to ensure occupational health and safety in our workplaces. We promote understanding and awareness of diversity and an appreciation of the rich cultures upon which our territory is founded and which inform our programs and services.

The GNWT's efforts towards an inclusive and representative workplace and our strong support for youth employment led to our repeat national recognition as one of Canada's Best Diversity Employers and Canada's Top Employers for Young People for 2015.

Mr. Speaker, it has been a busy and productive four years. The members of the public service, who work so hard to support the priorities of this House, have constantly impressed me. There is still much work to do but I know that, with a stable, engaged public service dedicated to the people of the NWT, future Assemblies will be just as successful. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister's Statement 240-17(5): Skills 4 Success

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, later today I will be tabling the Skills 4 Success 10-Year Strategic Framework. This framework capitalizes on the skills, knowledge and talents of the people of the Northwest Territories, the number one resource behind our economy and sustainable communities.

Over the past year, we engaged with many stakeholders for input and feedback on the development of the framework. We met with business, industry, Aboriginal governments, the federal government, non-governmental organizations, youth, job seekers, communities and education partners. Their collective knowledge helped identify new strategic directions for adult and post-secondary education programs, supports and pathways in the NWT.

In the spring we held the first Skills 4 Success symposium. Nearly 170 labour market, education and training partners attended. We heard a collective call for change and the need to build a strong culture of education and employment. It was extremely productive, with robust discussions, feedback, shared experiences and a commitment to demonstrate leadership for change. A full results report from the symposium is available online.

Mr. Speaker, this government also partnered with the Conference Board of Canada to examine the NWT's forecasted labour demands over the coming years. We have learned that over the next 15 years, approximately 75 percent of job opportunities will require college, apprenticeship or university education. Job opportunities open to people with less than a high school education is forecasted to be less than 10 percent.

This is a challenge for the NWT, as some residents require training and further education to be considered for an available job. The demand for skilled labour will only intensify in the coming years when more people retire from the labour market.

Skill development starts at the earliest ages. The GNWT is making progress with comprehensive early childhood development initiatives and improvements to the K to 12 education system. The Skills 4 Success Framework will build on these efforts and drive change to improve student transitions and pathways to advanced education and careers aligning with labour market demands and opportunities.

The four goals of the framework provide a solid foundation for what we have to do: increase skill levels through relevant education and training; bridge education and employment gaps through targeted supports; grow the NWT workforce through partnerships; and improve decision-making with relevant labour market information. Placing priority on skill development and closing education and employment gaps will help drive positive social and economic outcomes across the North.

Mr. Speaker, making generational change will require strong leadership at all levels. The framework is the first step in a 10-year process. Leading into the 18 th Legislative Assembly, we will develop concrete actions on how we plan to achieve our vision, goals and priorities.

We want everyone to have opportunities to succeed in life, whether it is advancing their education, gaining employment, or seizing a business opportunity. Providing these opportunities through partnership, comprehensive information and strategically developed programs is critical to our overall success as a territory, and we are acting on the call to create those opportunities. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister's Statement 241-17(5): Report On The Northwest Territories Power Corporation

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories Power Corporation, or NTPC, continues to adapt and manage its resources to meet the needs of the ever-changing environment of power generation in the North.

For the second year in a row, NTPC is addressing low water on the Snare hydro system; however, extremely low water at Bluefish this year has added to the challenge. While NTPC is effectively managing the use of water and diesel to ensure a stable power supply to the North Slave, this government, with the support of the Legislative Assembly, contributed $20 million to ensure that additional diesel costs were not incurred by the customer.

Mr. Speaker, looking to develop long-term solutions, NTPC is issuing an expression of interest, for both solar and wind installations, possibly at the Snare Lake hydro facility in the North Slave to determine if there is the possibility of economically adding these alternative energy sources to the generation mix to help offset some of the diesel, should this drought persist.

The 2015 Energy Charrette provided direction, and NTPC continues to make decisions and move forward with initiatives that are aligned with the charrette's outcomes. Specifically, a power purchase agreement has been signed with the community of

Lutselk'e to purchase the power from a community-owned solar installation and surplus power generated at the Taltson hydro plant is being used to supply interruptible heat to community-owned buildings. NTPC continues to partner with the newly formed Department of Public Works and Services along with the Arctic Energy Alliance to promote the PowerWise conservation campaign acting in the best interest of the customer by helping them lower their power bills, ultimately lowering the cost of living in the territory.

Mr. Speaker, Colville Lake had phase one of its solar array installed in 2014, which peaked in May 2015 at 54 kilowatts of solar energy. The completion of the second array occurred in June 2015. These two installations, in conjunction with the new Colville Lake power plant, including battery energy storage, will provide the community with a higher level of reliable power and is an innovative project that has drawn considerable attention from power generation experts outside the territory.

Introducing additional alternative renewables into the thermal communities includes the research of two potential wind sites in the Beaufort-Delta region. At this time, research continues to determine which of the two sites - Storm Hills or High Point - has the best business case based on amount of wind recorded and the distance of the site from town; the further away from the community, the more expensive to transmit.

Mr. Speaker, NTPC will also complete the conversion from high pressure sodium, or HPS, to LED streetlights in all thermal communities by the end of this fiscal year. LED streetlights cost, on average, $40 per month per light, less than HPS, which will result in a significant savings for community governments.

Mr. Speaker, in the first 14 months of the Inuvik liquid natural gas, or LNG, plant operation, $1.1 million was saved as compared to the diesel-only alternative and the use of LNG displaced 2,300 tonnes of greenhouse gas emissions in the community. With a showing this strong, NTPC and the Department of Public Works and Services are completing a business case and design feasibility for a new LNG storage and generation facility in the town of Fort Simpson. However, to ensure it is the best solution for that community, the business case will include a comparison against other alternatives such as biomass combined heat and power solutions.

Mr. Speaker, to assist the GNWT, Natural Resources Canada and Arctic Energy Alliance to track energy consumption of their commercial buildings in Jean Marie River, NTPC is piloting an Advanced Metering System, or AMS, in that community before the end of this fiscal year. All 42 customers will have new AMS meters installed that provide usage at various intervals for tracking purposes. However, there are other beyond-the-meter benefits that can be used in the future to provide customers with two-way meter communications to manage other household appliances and alarms.

Continuing to look for ways to lower the cost of living and the cost of power, NTPC bid on the Town of Hay River's power distribution request for proposals and will continue to work with the community to look at lowering its costs. Hay River is looking for an asset valuation before they make a decision.

Under normal circumstances, I would be tabling the fiscal 2015 annual reports for NT Hydro and NTPC during this session of the Legislative Assembly. However, this year NT Hydro and NTPC are converting to the Public Sector Accounting Standard, and as a result of the additional work required to report under this new standard, the year-end audit is taking longer than previous years. For fiscal 2015 and going forward, NT Hydro will now be consolidated within the GNWT public accounts on a line-by-line basis, increasing the disclosure related to this Crown corporation.

NTPC will continue to operate as efficiently as possible, concentrating on providing safe, affordable and reliable power generation. NTPC will also continue to support the GNWT energy and solar strategy by working together with the Department of Public Works and Services energy division to incorporate more renewables into the Territories' power generation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Minister of Transportation , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Minister's Statement 242-17(5): Nwt Transportation Strategy

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, in June 2015 the Department of Transportation tabled our multi-modal Transportation Strategy, entitled “Connecting Us.” The strategy defines the challenges and opportunities related to improving road, air, marine and rail services for residents, communities and businesses across the NWT over the next 25 years. I am pleased to report that the department is implementing the updated Transportation Strategy and making substantial progress under the three key strategic initiatives: strengthening connections, capturing opportunities, and embracing innovation.

The department is strengthening connections by rehabilitating sections of the existing highway system and improving air infrastructure. This work to rehabilitate highway embankments, road surfaces and drainage structures will increase the reliability and safety of our highway system, create employment, training and business opportunities for Northerners, and will reduce long-term maintenance costs. We have also delivered several improvements to our community airport assets, including runway repairs, installation of new runway lighting systems, and improvements to several air terminal buildings and passenger shelters.

Work continues to capture new sustainable economic opportunities for the Territories by advancing planning work and building strong business cases for three potential new all-weather highway corridors: the Mackenzie Valley Highway from Wrigley to Norman Wells; an all-season road into the Tlicho region; and improving road access into the Slave Geological Province.

Should these new corridors advance, they will substantially improve mobility and employment opportunities for Northerners and enable public and Aboriginal governments to capture new revenues associated with sustainable economic development across the NWT. This will be a critical investment when resource activity is predicted to decline. Extension of our all-weather highway system will also increase reliability over our current public winter road system, which is challenged by the effects of climate change.

The department continues to embrace innovation by testing new adaptation strategies for construction and maintenance of our highways and winter roads, improving our online services to residents, and seeking innovative public and private sector partnerships to improve road, air, marine and rail services in the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, the department has made significant progress since its inception 25 years ago. Despite these successes, we still have substantial work to do to support our residents, businesses and visitors. By measuring our progress, we can set new and greater goals to bring our transportation system to the next level. At the appropriate time today, I will table the 2015 Transportation Report Card. This document is directly linked to Connecting Us and provides up-to-date metrics and performance measures for each mode of transportation in the NWT.

This will be followed by a four-year action plan tabled during the first session of each new Legislative Assembly such as the one anticipated to be held in February 2016.

I would like to thank everyone who contributed to the success of the Department of Transportation over the past 25 years. I especially want to acknowledge the dedicated work of our employees, contractors, our policing partners, federal regulators and transportation service providers who work night and day to ensure transportation services are provided across the NWT.

The next 25 years hold significant opportunity for our territory and for the Department of Transportation to continue connecting Northerners to opportunities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Member's Statement On Housing Needs And Availability In The Nwt

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When we discussed the NWT Housing Corporation during the capital budget deliberations last week, I expressed concern about the number of public housing units available in the NWT, especially in Yellowknife. Not only do we need public housing but there's a well-documented need for transition housing, seniors housing and disabled persons housing.

Last year the YWCA in Yellowknife, a provider of transition housing in Yellowknife, reported a lengthy waiting list for their units. This year, in spite of an addition of 18 new units at Lynn's Place and 55 places moved from Education, Culture and Employment to the NWT Housing Corporation public housing, there's been little change in those long waiting lists.

As we heard yesterday from Mr. Bromley , the Y's Rockhill Family Housing Facility has 100 families on their waiting list. That's families, Mr. Speaker, not people. Lynn's Place has 50 people on their waiting list and Yellowknife Housing Authority has a list of 152 singles or families looking to get into a public housing unit.

It's not just individuals and families who need housing help. The need for seniors housing in Yellowknife and the NWT is well known and acknowledged by both the Yellowknife NGO Avens and the GNWT Health and Social Services. The government is taking some action to alleviate the need for seniors housing outside of Yellowknife, but as we've heard many times over the last year, it's not enough.

The number of homeless people in Yellowknife is estimated at 150 and I have no idea of the extent of the problem in other communities, but I know that it's there. As we heard yesterday many times, the housing needs of NWT disabled persons are urgent.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Member's Statement On Recognition Of Order Of The Nwt Recipient - Mr. Bruce Green

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased today to recognize a Hay River constituent, Bruce Green. He has been chosen as the recipient of the 2015 Order of the Northwest Territories. It is the highest honour of the Northwest Territories and takes precedence over all the orders, decorations and medals conferred by the government and the Legislative Assembly of the NWT.

A member of the Order is entitled to wear the insignia of the Order as a decoration and to use ONWT after his/her name, and membership is for life.

Bruce Green has devoted his life to teaching. He began teaching in 1967 and took up teaching in Hay River in 1974 with his wife, Marilyn. Bruce has a wealth of knowledge and experience in many fields, but most people know him as a northern science guy. His passion is science. He has shared his expertise in northern biology and archeology, and he was involved in promoting the Northern Tundra Science Camp offered to Grade 11 students from across the NWT.

Bruce has represented the Territorial Farmers' Association and the GNWT at the 5 th Circumpolar Conference in Sweden where he did a presentation on cold weather composting. Bruce provided his expertise in providing the Resource Manual of Practical Ideas, developed to include traditional and cultural learning in science curriculum at the primary level.

Through the years, Bruce has been a mentor, coach and active member of several clubs and associations, such as Biathlon Canada, the NWT Biathlon Association, NWT Wrestling, the Hay River Ski Club, the Territorial Farmers' Association and the NWT Literacy Council.

Bruce has twice received the Hilroy Scholarship Award for Innovative Teaching and Programs. He has received Sport North awards for instructing and coaching wrestling and has been recognized as Hay River's Citizen of the Year. Most recently, Bruce was inducted into the NWT Education Hall of Fame for his dedication to teaching in the Northwest Territories.

Bruce remains involved in the community and is instrumental in volunteering and planning programs, such as the Christmas Bird Count, beaver watching, owling, search for fossils, and many other educational, interesting meetings. Bruce also has musical talents and is often seen to be playing the organ in the Catholic Church.

Bruce and his wife, Marilyn, who is also a teacher, have lived in Hay River for over 38 years, raised their six children in a loving, caring and educational home. Bruce is also the proud parent of Olympic athlete, Brendan Green. We are thankful that Bruce and his family have decided to stay in the North, where I'm sure he will continue to contribute to the well-being of our community.

I'm pleased today to congratulate Bruce Green on this honourable recognition. On behalf of Hay River, thank you, Bruce, for all that you do for others and for Hay River and for the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Member's Statement On Reflection On Time As A Member Of The Legislative Assembly Of The Nwt

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. During my penultimate day in the House, I note that governments all over the world are facing huge challenges. Some are responding responsibly, others not. I believe this government is failing our people and our land at a critical time when we can ill afford to be led down the wrong path.

Eight years ago, during my first Member's statement, I read from the 2000 Earth Charter that says, “We stand at a critical moment in the Earth's history, a time when humanity must choose its future. As the world becomes increasingly interdependent and fragile, the future at once holds great peril and great promise. To move forward, we must recognize that in the midst of a magnificent diversity of cultures and life forms, we are one human family and one Earth community with a common destiny. We must join together to bring forth a sustainable global society founded on respect for nature, universal human rights, economic justice and a culture of peace.”

I went on to note that I was excited about the possibilities and the promise that's offered in the solutions to these challenges, but that it would take new thinking and new ways of doing things. But instead, we are frantically trying to do the same old things in the same old ways and are rather insanely expecting other results.

I noted then that how we do things can be a big part of the solution, benefitting all our residents and our northern and global environments, but where decisive action was required, we've taken only timid steps. While we could do the usual government things in new beneficial ways, we haven't. Is it us? Is it consensus government, under which decisive action is unlikely? Is it our Premier , federally trained and with 30 years as a bureaucrat under his belt, unable to change course when evidence demands it? Possibly. Leadership is important. But under our model of government, every MLA plays a key role in helping us move forward or holding us back.

To me the biggest bottleneck is the lack of evidence-based decision-making, the degree to which an uninformed statement made with supreme confidence can undermine decisions that could and should be based on solid evidence is astounding.

We leave many great challenges for the 18 th Assembly to wrestle with. We leave huge costs of living in an economy which favours a few. We remain unprepared for soaring climate change impacts. We leave burgeoning debt and dwindling revenues.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Member's Statement On Reflection On Time As A Member Of The Legislative Assembly Of The Nwt

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Yet, while some costs are unavoidable, it is possible to address these issues in progressive ways that can benefit our people and our land if we choose. I wish this 18 th Assembly the very best for finding the best path forward.

Later today I will speak about opportunities they may wish to consider. Mahsi.

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Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Member's Statement On Nursing And Policing Services In Tsiigehtchic

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the last four years, I've brought up growing concerns of the services in Tsiigehtchic, whether it be nursing, or RCMP. At this time of year, the residents feel a little better because we have a nurse on hand in the community, and with the growing number of elders we have in the community and the needs, people feel much safer.

With the RCMP, we had the department committing to having an RCMP overnighting in the community of Tsiigehtchic this summer and in place by this fall. But yet today there is still no action on this.

With all the technology today, whether it be campers, that's all the department needs to have to offer this service in the community. You know, whether they have to pitch the tents, I mean, we have to find some solution here to provide these services in our communities, especially when we have commitments.

I'll be asking the Minister questions later today. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Member's Statement On Support For Consensus Government In The Nwt

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we've come to the last couple days of this session, I thought I'd make a statement here. I'd like to speak on consensus government.

I support consensus government. As a new MLA here, I was able to get involved in the budget process, involved in committee, involved in everything in the government right from the get-go. I support consensus government. I know we need to improve it, but I've been part of the Transition Committee this summer on ways that we can improve consensus government, the way we can make it better for the public, for the Regular Members and for the Cabinet.

In consensus government I don't have to tow a party line. It's easy. My mandate is Hay River. I represent Hay River on a number of issues. Whenever I have a question, I just need to go home; I'll get my mandate again. I just need to talk to people, have a constituency meeting and put it out to the people as a question. Whether that topic is dredging, fishing industry, northern manufacturing, Mental Health Act changes, whether it's a school swap, that's an example, Mr. Speaker. We had a discussion about school swap. We went home. Both groups told us no, we don't want a school swap.

That's an example of consensus government. We're given back our mandate; don't accept that. We didn't accept it. We're dealing with the issue going forward.

We do need to improve consensus government and I think the key to that is communication. We need the government to communicate with Regular Members how things are being done and when things are being done, not just on the minimum amount of time but through the whole process.

For some reason, like I said, when I first got here, people talked about how the hallways had mikes in them, because as soon as we had a conversation, everybody seemed to know about it in the building. So, in order to improve consensus government, we need to improve our communication. We need to improve trust.

Consensus works for us in a small jurisdiction. It's easy. If we had party politics, eventually somewhere down the line some community may be left out. If my community isn't represented by the government, then I'm going to be left out in the cold. Consensus government works in the Northwest Territories and is strong and is alive. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Member's Statement On Mental Illness Awareness Week

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. October 4 th to 10 th is Mental Illness Awareness Week, and the theme for this year is I am Stigma Free. It's an opportunity to learn about and educate others on mental illness, but more importantly, it's an opportunity to take action on mental health issues.

Taking action is exactly what this government has done. The Standing Committee on Social Programs, in partnership with the Department of Health and Social Services, over the course of the summer and this fall did a very strong review and consultations with people of the Northwest Territories. We travelled to nine communities and had about 17 written submissions. We had consulted with a lot of professional organizations on updating our Mental Health Act, which was outdated for about 30 years.

The families across the Northwest Territories, residents of the Northwest Territories told us how they felt, told us about experiences that they've been dealing with in terms of issues that they've been dealing with and the Mental Health Act, let us know what the gaps in services were and what was needed.

It was a great opportunity, and later today committee will be reading in a report from all those findings. I hope people in the Northwest Territories who gave information, who gave us direction to update this Mental Health Act will be listening in and will be seeing what we have to offer and what we have to bring to the table.

With that said, I just wanted to take this opportunity. We have two days left in the House. The Mental Health Act and addictions has been strong on my agenda. I'm really glad to see that the Mental Health Act has had its due course, has had its respect in this House and is getting updated for the first time in about 30 years.

I just want to thank everybody who contributed to what we are going to be passing here later on today in Committee of the Whole, and also who attended the meetings in the communities. I'd like to thank the Members whose communities we visited for setting up those meetings. We'd like to thank all the front-line staff as well as family and friends who have been affected by mental health illness, coming out and showing us your support, if not giving us information.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I just want to take one final opportunity here to thank all members of the Standing Committee on Social Programs, who had a lot of late nights going through the reports, doing the follow-up; the staff who helped us along the way as well as getting up early mornings, putting on all those kilometres to ensure that we listened to as many residents as possible to update this Mental Health Act.

I just want to also let family, friends and people who have been affected know that today we represent all those who have been affected by mental illness, whether it's acute to severe, or tragic or fatal, that it's not going to happen again and that this government is taking the first steps to make sure that, in fact, is true. We're going to start fighting to support, to get the services in your communities, to get the services for the front-line workers and the staff so that we can help people who are affected by mental illness.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The Member for the Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Member's Statement On Economic Potential In Sahtu Region

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our North is rich in resources, and yet we have yet to fully untap the potential of our people, our youth. We have potential in our lands. The trick to any government is to connect that potential with each other. That's the trick of any leadership, any people. How do we untap the potential of our young people, the ones who are going to school, with the opportunities that are rich in our lands? Through imagination, through initiatives.

The Sahtu sits in the midst of amazing wealth and resources, but we have not yet realized how we have access to this wealth and these resources. It's sitting there waiting for us. The closest we have come was in the 1930s and '40s, first with the uranium mine and Great Bear Lake, tapping that resource, and then the Canol pipeline in the ‘40s. The key part of these two projects were done without any input or tapping the knowledge from the Aboriginal people, the owners of the land. Today in the Sahtu this is not the case. We have a land claim that was negotiated and settled. It has the highest constitutional protection in Canada. This is the highest law in Canada.

The Sahtu is rich in its economic opportunities. We have a way to realize we have a way to participate with this government in developing the region. We have a labour force that wants to work. It does not want to be dependent on government handouts. We have resources that need to be untapped.

I will ask further questions of the Minister of ITI at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Member's Statement On Mental Health Programs And Services In Nahendeh Region

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Today I would like to speak about the mental health services in the Nahendeh region. It's often hard to talk about, but there's never any shortage of tragic and painful things going on in our communities.

Addictions-related problems keep surfacing in part because of things that the residential school legacy left behind. Residents need more help if they're going to recover from things like drug and alcohol abuse. People need to heal from the painful things that happened.

I understand that the report on the new Mental Health Act will be tabled today. There's certainly been a lot of talk about it on the this side of the House. One of the things that the standing committee found is how many front-line positions are vacant across the Northwest Territories. That's a concern in my region where residents of Fort Simpson, Fort Providence and Fort Liard have gone for long stretches of time without access to mental health workers. In Nahanni Butte, Trout Lake and Wrigley, help is even thinner on the ground.

Limited funding is a concern. A $10,000 program for Trout Lake gets 50 percent of it used for air travel alone. This must also be reviewed and addressed.

We're all hoping for a brighter future with a new Mental Health Act. Later, during the session in Committee of the Whole, we will hear about how the updated act will benefit the people of the Northwest Territories, and I look forward to those discussions. Mahsi.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Member's Statement On Ministerial Travel Claims

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Eight weeks ago today I wrote an e-mail to the Minister of Finance because of complaints I received from the public about Minister Ramsay 's most recent travel claim to a luxury hotel in Quebec and using a luxury car. In my e-mail I had asked a number of questions about the luxury rental vehicle, luxury hotel, government paying for Ministers going to weddings and many more questions along the lines of Minister's signing off their own travel claims, but one of the concerns I raised was how long has this been going on.

So I specifically asked the Minister of Finance to have an independent review of Minister Ramsay 's travel claims for the past year. I know this can happen because it does happen regularly. So I asked for an independent review because I think it falls well within the realms of the ability.

I often hear that government bean counters go months after travel claims have been filed and they audit them for clarification and confirmation of expenses. If an error has been processed in good faith, I'm prepared to accept that for what it is. Small administrative errors happen. We're all human. It's easy to tick a box off accidentally and sometimes even unknowingly. However, if an error is habitual, then we do have some problems. An example of that could be claiming dinners repeatedly as your per diems, but the conference or meetings all seem to provide them. That would be wrong.

I know this Minister has flown friends and family around and didn't offer to pay for them at first, until I complained to the Comptroller General, who, once reviewed the situation, found my point correct and the Minister did pay the money back. What I find interesting is I sent the e-mail and it was received by the Finance Minister on Wednesday, August 12 th , but it took him two days after my e-mail was sent to reply that Minister Ramsay has called for a review on his own self.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but when you look at Friday's newspaper of that week when it hit the streets of Yellowknife and me making a statement saying this needs to be done, coincidence starts to add up. Two days to be able to call the reviewers on their own self starts to make you wonder. The Minister has justified his expenses in Monday's paper, stood by them very strongly, but then all of a sudden, wait a minute, he changes his mind.

The fact remains that the reasonable request is outstanding. If a simple error has been made, I still stand by that point; accidents happen. But if it's habitual, we need to be asking ourselves, how do we correct this?

I brought this point up again to the Minister of Finance when we were out at the Caucus retreat over a month ago, that he didn't answer all my requests in the e-mail. The point is, this review is still outstanding and it's reasonable to be done. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Member's Statement On World Homeless Day, October 10th

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Since 2012 over 100 countries around the world have recognized this coming Saturday, October 10 th , as a World Homeless Day. This is to draw attention to homeless people's needs locally and provide opportunities for the community to get involved in responding to homelessness.

In recognition of World Homeless Day, I want to take a moment to voice my concerns about the impact of homelessness in small communities, like those in my Deh Cho riding.

Homelessness is one of the most chronic and damaging social problems in the NWT. Adequate housing provides a foundation for physical and mental health, economic well-being and strong communities. Chronic housing shortages, on the other hand, are linked to family violence, addictions, low graduation rates, suicide and severe respiratory infections and other communicable diseases in children. As we know, the North experiences all of these problems at higher rates than elsewhere in Canada.

Here are some other facts listeners may not be aware of: According to the 2006 Census, homeownership in the NWT is 25 percent lower than in Alberta. For many, social housing is the main if not only option. Many of the homeless are not eligible for public housing. According to Dr. Nick Falvo, director of research at the Calgary Homeless Foundation, social housing in the NWT is prioritized for persons who are physically disabled or over 60. As a result, says Mr.

Falvo, “When a vacancy occurs for a bachelor or a one-bedroom unit, a homeless person without dependants, who does not meet one of the above criteria, has never, and will never, access a unit under the current system. Many of these people leave their home communities for Yellowknife and other regional centres. An evaluation of Yellowknife's Day Shelter done in 2011, found out just one-third of the people using it were actually from Yellowknife. Almost half were from other NWT communities.

According to the NWT Housing Corporation's own website, “Homelessness in smaller communities often takes a different form than what it seems in larger communities. These are residents that are unable to access social housing because of past behaviour, arrears or other tenant issues, or residents in situations where the availability of housing has limited their options.”

Mr. Speaker, I'm bothered to learn that even though applications were received from every region, not a single community in my riding received funding from the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Mahsi.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Not a single community in my riding received funding from the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation in 2014-15 under the Small Community Homelessness Fund. Homelessness is a debilitating social problem in every community in the NWT. Given their very limited options for affected residents of small communities, I believe the Northwest Housing Corporation has an obligation to ensure that homelessness funding is fairly shared amongst all regions.

Later today I will have questions for the Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation . Mahsi.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Member's Statement On Condolences To The Family Of Mr. Jonas Beaulieu Of Fort Resolution

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Over the last weekend, [Translation ends] Jonas Beaulieu passed away at the age of 93, surrounded by his family. Jonas passed peacefully with his family and caregivers all around him for his last days

Jonas was born September 7, 1922, to Louison and Marie Beaulieu. He married Violet on January 12, 1953, in Fort Resolution, where they raised a family of nine, four sons and five daughters.

Jonas attended mission school until he completed Grade 7. He later obtained a certificate in diesel mechanics while in the hospital with tuberculosis. He loved working and creating with his hands. From building many things for his family, like boats, furniture and fixing anything that had a motor, he was given the nickname “Papa Fix” as a result.

Jonas was a proud man who didn't believe in asking for help. Violet and he saved their money and, in 1964, built a large, loving home to raise their family in. His strong faith and a love for playing music led him to play the organ in church and he continued to do so for 29 years. Jonas was a devoted husband, role model and inspiration to all Metis people in Fort Resolution.

Jonas was predeceased by three sons, Stephen, Maurice and Gregory. He is survived by his wife, Violet, and six children, Mildred McQuinn (David), Gladys Morin (Don), Lucille Harrington (Paul Jr.), Brenda McKay (Melvin), Larry Beaulieu, and Myra Beaulieu (Marc). He had 14 grandchildren and 21 great-grandchildren.

I personally have known Jonas since I was a small child. I was good friends with his late son, Maurice. When we were children I didn't know how to ride a bike and everybody else who was six rode a bike. I was a slow learner. Jonas made a tricycle with a chain that could keep up to bicycles. It had 20-inch wheels and so on, so I could learn how to ride a bike and also keep up to everybody else. He made that for Morris, and Morris quickly learned how to ride a bike.

He was an inventor of sorts. Many years ago I went to Jonas's house with my dad and he showed us how he converted a hot water heater from electrical to fuel. I think that was the first time I saw a fuel-fired hot water tank. I didn't understand the significance of that. I was just a little boy.

Jonas was truly a lovely man. He is somebody who will be missed by his family, friends and his community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Member for Thebacha , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Member's Statement On Recognition Of Order Of The Nwt Recipient - Sonny Macdonald

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to take a few moments of the House time to acknowledge, recognize and pay tribute to the award recently bestowed on Sonny McDonald, Order of the NWT.

Sonny McDonald was a long-term employee of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources. For 17 years he held the fort on the Mackenzie River Basin Board, as we slowly got our thinking clear, and left just before we finally negotiated an agreement with Alberta, an issue that he always brought up to me as something that was undone and needed to get busy on.

He's also very well-known internationally as a carver. As you can see today, he's not in the best of health, but he's still a presence, and the carving to your left, Mr. Speaker, is a Sonny McDonald carving.

I would just like to congratulate him and take that opportunity. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Honourable Premier , Mr. McLeod.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am very pleased to recognize my wife, Melody McLeod, and Auntie Germaine Michel. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Abernethy .

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize students from the Aurora College Social Work and Nursing programs who are visiting the Legislature today. They are accompanied by their instructors, Vanessa Rankin and Jodi Brennan. I am going to attempt to pronounce these names, and if I get any wrong, please don't hold it against me.

Within social work we have Michelle Bourke, Diana Bui, Jessika Claros, Jordon Moffitt, Amanda Pike, Romy Quackenbush, Sade Sada and Alice Thrasher.

The nursing students we have are Laila Nesbitt, Sarah Pope, Constance Afoakwah, Adoma Akua, Beth Thompson, Sasha Stanton, Lisa Balmer, Reigem Sabalboro - I apologize. That isn't even fair. - Kellyann Whitehead-Smith and Kristan Marion.

I'd also like to recognize Great Slave constituent Kieron Testart. Thank you all for being in the gallery today.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . I hope they get the spelling right in Hansard. Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I'd also like to recognize my interpreter, Tom Unka. He has been coming into the Legislative Assembly almost every second sitting for the last eight years. Tom Unka does both the translation for anything that needs translation and also the interpreting for myself in the House, so I'd like to recognize him.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Mr. Bouchard .

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize Germaine Michel, a Hay River resident; and former resident Lisa Balmer, who's here doing schooling. I'm sure we're going to get her back in Hay River in our new health centre, get her and Ben back in Hay River.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'd like to recognize Hay River South constituent Germaine Michel, who is here today with my friend Melody McLeod. It's hard to believe that they're auntie and niece. They look like sisters.

Also, yes, our former constituent Lisa Buckmaster-Balmer, who is in the Nursing Program here and, yes, wouldn't it be great to have these gals come home?

I thought I heard Sarah Pope as well. I don't know if she's there today or not, but if she is, I'd like to recognize her.

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Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I'd just wanted to take pride in our Page Program that allows us to bring students who are younger and from smaller communities like Fort Simpson. Today I wanted to recognize two Pages from Fort Simpson. First of all, my nephew Allan Menicoche, and Aaron Antoine. They're both here in the gallery. I just want to say that you guys represent well.

Also, thanks to my chaperone, Ms. Jasmine Hardisty, for taking care of them this week.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . I'd like to welcome here, too, Ms. Alice Thrasher and Ms. Melody McLeod. Welcome to the House.

I'd like to welcome all visitors here today. Thank you for taking an interest in our proceedings and all the best in your classes.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Mr. Bromley .

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Acknowledgement 25-17(5): Mr. Gino Pin - Order Of The Nwt

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Today I rise to acknowledge and congratulate my constituent Mr. Gino Pin on his being inducted into the Order of the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Pin is an architect of considerable renown, who has been living, designing and building in Canada's North for more than 35 years. In fact, this House is a sterling example of his fine work.

Mr. Pin has received many design awards and was named “Northerner of the Year” by UpHere Magazine in 1992. Mr. Pin has made significant contributions to both the quality of life and the esthetic environment of the Northwest Territories. He is considered by his peers to be the pre-eminent architect north of 60. He has also been an outstanding mentor to upcoming architects and has embarked on a dedicated effort to address the fate of our homeless here in Yellowknife.

He is truly deserving of the highest honour this government can bestow, and I invite all Members to join me in congratulating Mr. Pin for his many achievements and for his recognition received today. Mahsi.

---Applause

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Mr. Moses .

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Acknowledgement 26-17(5): Mr. Gerald W. Kisoun - 2015 Governor General's Polar Medal Award

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to acknowledge Mr. Gerald W. Kisoun, known to most as Gerry, on being recognized as a recipient of the 2015 Governor General's Polar Medal Award. Mr. Kisoun was recognized for his outstanding contribution to promoting Canada's North and its people.

His mother, Bertha Allen, received the Governor General's Northern Medal in 2008 for her support of equality for Aboriginal and northern women, particularly their inclusion as government decision-makers.

Mr. Kisoun is a true role model for his family, his friends, the community of Inuvik and all Northerners.

I would like to congratulate and acknowledge Mr. Kisoun for all of his hard work, commitment and dedication to the people of the North. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . Item 7, oral questions. The Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 942-17(5): Economic Potential In Sahtu Region

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of ITI . I talked about the potential in the Sahtu region with our human resources, our people and with the resources in our lands.

I want to ask the Minister, has he had an opportunity to look at the opportunities of the economic potential in the Sahtu region with our people in our lands? Does he have a quick snapshot picture of what's there?

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We've got a great idea of what's in the Member's riding in the Sahtu. Over the past four years, we've spent $8.5 million in funding in the region. We've got the greatest potential, of course, with oil and gas and the resource assessment that was done in the central Mackenzie Valley, indicating that there's close to 200 billion barrels of oil and the benefits, and the development of that could mean potential business opportunities and employment opportunities for residents in the Sahtu.

We also had seen a great advance in agriculture in the Member's riding. I know Mr. Whiteman is back at potato farming this year and there's a number of others in communities in the Sahtu who are getting into agriculture.

We've also seen an advancement on the traditional economy. Harvesting furs continues to be a source of income in the Member's riding. I believe in the Sahtu we've got close to 100 trappers in the area and they harvest some of the best fur in the Northwest Territories.

We also have to look at tourism and the opportunities tourism is going to provide. The federal government is going to be moving forward with the cleanup of the Canol Trail. Some of that work has started. As the Member knows, earlier this year we had 18 local residents employed on the cleanup. The $800,000, or close to $800,000 flowed through the Department of ITI and we're happy to see that work start. The federal government indicates it's going to take up to five years to clean up the Canol in advance of us fulfilling a commitment in the Sahtu Agreement to turn that into a park, and we fully intend on doing that as soon as that trail is remediated. Thank you.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you. The Minister clearly laid out the amazing potential we have in the Sahtu. I want to ask the Minister, has he and his officials looked at one area that he hadn't mentioned today, which is the Selwyn-Chihong Mine that's at the Yukon/Northwest Territories border? I understand this mine is going to go into production. There's close to $1 billion worth of work there, potentially with 850 workers during the construction phase and around 450 permanent workers to operate that mine.

Has the Minister looked at how we can match the young potential workers in the Sahtu with this upcoming mine that is close to $1 billion worth of operation?

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

The Selwyn-Chihong Project, which straddles the Yukon-Northwest Territories border, holds great promise and great potential not only for the Sahtu, but for the Northwest Territories and the Yukon. It is a world-class lead-zinc deposit, as the Member indicated, with somewhere around 800 to 850 permanent jobs. I know the company has been into a number of communities in the Sahtu. They've been talking to the leadership in the Sahtu about potential IBAs and other opportunities for the Sahtu when it comes to the development of that project. We're very excited.

Initial mine plans had the company looking at mining on the Yukon side at first, but it looks as though the company is going to be mining potentially on both sides of the border, which bodes well for the Northwest Territories and this is a great opportunity for us.

Also in the area of mining, we've had some great results from our NWT Geological Survey that would indicate that there's gold and tungsten in a number of the stream sampling programs that we had conducted last summer. So there's great potential in the Sahtu for mining. Thank you.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Certainly, that raises our hopes in the region. I want to ask the Minister, has he been working with his other colleagues with regards to bringing in some much needed skill development, trade development, in regards to, for example, the Selwyn-Chihong Mine operations, bringing in some type of trades program with the Mine Training Society to look at how do we tap into these young resources of workers in the Sahtu region to increase our viability to be in the mine and not have situations where we see where we fly in miners to take the jobs from our Sahtu people, our northern people?

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Because of the exploration and the little bit of drilling that happened in the Sahtu a couple of years ago, there are folks there that are trained. But the Member's correct. I mean, we have to be ensuring that the young people are ready for the jobs that are coming, whether they're in oil and gas or whether they're in the mining sector. We continue to work closely with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. I know the Minister had a statement earlier, Skills 4 Success.

We've got the Mine Training Society of the Northwest Territories, as well, and we have to do everything we can as a government to ensure that our folks are ready to take these opportunities and run with them. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to just ask the Minister about the traditional economy. Now, that's the backbone of our people. It was a way of life until we started to look at the European value of exchange. The economy is still strong. Colville Lake and Fort Good Hope have the best fur harvesters in the Northwest Territories.

I want to ask the Minister, is his department working with the trappers in the region, specifically around Fort Good Hope and Colville Lake, in regards to seeing that this tradition is continued to be passed on to the younger generation? The best furs, I may say humbly, come from the Sahtu region, specifically in the Gahcho area.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

We continue to work with ENR on the traditional economy on the area of trapping. As I mentioned to the Member, there are currently approximately 100 trappers in the Sahtu. We actively support the marketing of the Genuine Mackenzie Valley Fur Program. Over the past four years, they've averaged about $370,000 per year in fur sales and an additional $84,000 in fur bonus and grubstake payments to trappers. Over the four years, the total for Sahtu trappers is nearly $2 million, so it's a tremendous opportunity. This money goes directly back into trappers' pockets and back into local economies in the Sahtu.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can I seek unanimous consent of yourself and the Members to return to item 5?

---Unanimous consent granted

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I am honoured to stand here today to congratulate and recognize Mr. and Mrs. Wilfred and Lucy Jackson. Mrs. Lucy Jackson was the recipient of the first Order of the Northwest Territories, and accompanying her is her good, full-time, wonderful husband, Wilfred Jackson. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Item 7, oral questions, Mr. Blake .

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Question 943-17(5): Policing Services In Tsiigehtchic

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In follow-up to my Member's statement on policing in Tsiigehtchic, we had a strong presence of RCMP in Tsiigehtchic in the early 1900s, yet here we are today, 2015, with a core presence in the community. We're going backwards, Mr. Speaker. We should have a detachment in the community at this time. We had one in the early 1900s, as I mentioned, 1920, in Tsiigehtchic. We had special constables in every community, Fort McPherson, Aklavik, Tsiigehtchic, the list goes on. Yet today there's not one special constable in any of those communities. More needs to be done in this area.

You know, it's Aboriginal policing. We need to start encouraging our youth to join the force and have detachments in our communities. So I have questions for the Minister here today.

How many times have the RCMP spent the night or even overnight in Tsiigehtchic over the summer? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . Minister of Justice , Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Member for raising the concern about policing in Tsiigehtchic once again on the floor of the House today. The number of patrols that we saw into the community of Tsiigehtchic between January and July 2015 from the RCMP detachment in Fort McPherson were 37 patrols, and I want to thank the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation. We're moving forward with plans to have an increased police presence in the community of Tsiigehtchic.

We're going to be sending officers in there to spend two days and one night a week, which means that for up to eight days per month they will be in the community of Tsiigehtchic. Suitable accommodations have been identified, again through the Housing Corporation and we thank them for their help in that. This will begin in December of this year. The community will see this increased level of service by the RCMP. Thank you.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

That actually answered my second question here, but my third question is: What are we going to do in the meantime? You know, we have freeze-up underway here. We have about three to four inches of snow in Tsiigehtchic at the moment.

What is the detachment going to do during freeze-up? Thank you.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Operationally it would be as usual. Again, we are looking forward to December when we can increase the level of service to the community of Tsiigehtchic. I should mention, as well, that between January 1, 2015, and up until the end of July 2015, there were 40 calls for service during that period of time in the community of Tsiigehtchic. Thank you.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I would like to ask the Minister, when will they start encouraging our youth to join the force, whether it be through special constable that was practiced in the early 1900s. It seems they've done away with that here today. This is a great opportunity. I recall even in the mid-1990s many... I believe even you were a special constable, Mr. Speaker, at one point. We need to start encouraging this practice once again. Will the Minister ensure that that happens? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

I'm very glad that the Member has brought this up today. We need to be encouraging if you know young people in the community who are interested in a career in policing, they can identify themselves to the detachment or to the RCMP here in the Northwest Territories, to “G” Division. We would certainly like to hear from them.

We've had trouble in the past getting interested persons to take the training. We continue to work with the RCMP in identifying young people who can take the training and become members of the RCMP. I'd encourage all Members, again, if you know young people in your community, it's a great career and I'd encourage them to approach the RCMP. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 944-17(5): Fort Simpson Access Road Streetlights

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I want to ask the Minister of Transportation some questions with regard to working with municipalities and street lighting on the highway system.

I would like to ask the Minister: What type of program does the Department of Transportation currently have to assist with the street lighting on our NWT highways and close to municipalities? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Minister of Transportation , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It would be generally a maintenance program. Safety is a priority for the department, and there were issues with some corners that were dark and we were able to put up some lights. I know the Member is concerned about a road that runs off the main road that's been maintained by the department that doesn't have adequate street lighting. So we are going to be working with, most likely, the Power Corporation for poles and lighting on that access road the Member had asked me about earlier. Thank you.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

To be specific, yes I've been asking the Minister about installing some street lighting on the access road that goes from our 6 kilometre, the Wild Rose subdivision, down onto the Four Mile subdivision, and that's been a safety concern raised by the residents, most particularly in the last couple of years, with more and more bears being in the community and it being very dark at night.

I'd just like to ask the Minister, has he been contacted by the Village of Fort Simpson with regard to identifying exactly where street lighting should go? Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I personally have not been in contact with the municipality, but the information was passed on to the department and it's possible the department has initiated some discussion with the municipality on this issue. Thank you.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

It's probably correct that the Village of Fort Simpson contacted the department officials to identify certain locations and I'm up here in the House today to ensure that we move forward with those. I think there are about three sites there, so if the Minister can confirm that the department is working with the Village of Fort Simpson to install at least three new LED street lightings on that access road. Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Certainly the department will not be ignoring the request from the community, so I think it's just a matter of having the department regional staff from DOT get in touch with the community at a time convenient for both of them to be able to work together to resolve the issue. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Certainly the priority areas for this access road have some residential houses, but the longer access towards the Four Mile subdivision, maybe they can look at that as well, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Certainly the people down by the riverbank at Four Mile have been there for many, many years, so it would be nice to be able to light up the roadway, as well, going down to Four Mile. So we'll have the department look at that area as well. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We only need to listen to the media these days and we hear that there is a great deal of interest in the public in how people in elected office spend the taxpayers' money when it comes to claims for travel and other expenses. We're very fortunate in this Assembly that we have very good staff who take some time and due diligence to ensure that the claims that are being made are correct, and when they are not, as we've heard today, these things are remedied very quickly.

I'd like to ask the Minister of Finance ; today my colleague spoke about the monitoring of expense claims and travel claims on behalf of Ministers, and I think that when the public looks at us they see all of us as one group, as government. I also think that there are probably committee chairs and some Regular MLAs who travel just about as much as Ministers do, so I would just like to know, in fairness to the public and to this effort for transparency, I'd like to ask Minister Miltenberger if it would be the government's intention to also monitor closely the expenses of Regular Members.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The Minister of Finance , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We do have a policy. We quite rigorously police ourselves. As was raised in the House earlier, the issue with Minister Ramsay has been dealt with and the file is closed for a very, very small discrepancy. Things have been tightened up. Yes, we believe that we should have an even hand when we apply overdue travel claims since there are cases where MLAs accompany Ministers on foreign travel. There are some outstanding claims and we are encouraging those outstanding claims to be completed.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

I'd ask the Minister, then, if the same rigorous and strenuous monitoring and checking of expense claims for the Ministers that Minister Miltenberger has spoken of, if that would also apply to Regular Members, because, as I said, I think the public is very interested in being assured of that and knowing that that is the case.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Our specific involvement comes when MLAs travel with Ministers on trips, usually abroad, and there have been a number of those and there are outstanding claims that we're still waiting for from an MLA that we hope will get cleared off so that we can end this session and the mandate of the 17 th Assembly on a clear note.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

That raises another interesting question. Why would there be a delay in the filing of expense claims when a Member would travel with a Cabinet Minister or the Premier , whether it be to a federal, provincial, territorial or on foreign travel or as a committee member of a committee designated member or a committee chair? Why would there be a delay in the filing of those expense claims?

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

What I can indicate is that we have been pursuing and made repeated requests to in fact have all the necessary travel claims submitted so that we can in fact close the file on the various trips. We have been using the power of persuasion. We don't have a lot of direct authority over MLAs. They have travelled with us and we're trying to make sure that we close the books, and we're going to continue to pursue that and hopefully conclude it.

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Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have watched government for a long time and I know that there have been instances in the quite far past now of Ministers that were travelling with Regular Members and that there became a question after the fact about whether the people who were sponsored with taxpayers' dollars to go to some of these events actually ever did attend them. Do we have any mechanism in place to ensure that when people do travel on government business that they do indeed attend the functions that they are travelling for?

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We tend to travel on the honour system but there is an implicit understanding that MLAs would be reporting back, because they're usually there representing a committee that they would be reporting back to the events that they attended, the meetings they attended, and the important affairs that they dealt with and discussed while on those travels. At this point, that's basically the extent in terms of compliance or reporting back as to exactly what events were attended.

The Ministers, of course, have more accountability and are prepared and will disclose all the meetings they've had and all the functions they have attended and have their expense claims, I can assure you, scrupulously reviewed by a whole number of folks to make sure that everything is appropriate.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I was speaking of business and some of the issues that I have had with the GNWT over the last four years. My questions today are for the Minister of ITI . I'm dealing with a client for the Business Incentive Policy and getting them BIP'd, and it's specific to the plow trucks that Transportation continues to buy and we've tried to get King Manufacturing BIP'd for that project.

Can the Minister indicate to me why the application for King Manufacturing for plow trucks was denied this year?

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Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . Mr. Ramsay .

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is in everyone's best interest that we see the benefit accrue to northern businesses when we do look at procuring, whether it's plow trucks or anything else the government buys, that if it can be manufactured here in the Northwest Territories it's purchased by our government. That's why we have a manufactured products list. Of the eight items that King Manufacturing has wished for us to put on that list, we have approved six of those items. There are two other items that I know the Members had denied.

They're under review and we want to continue to work with King Manufacturing and the manufacturing community here in the Northwest Territories to ensure that products that can be manufactured here in the Northwest Territories get on that approved list for procurement.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

I understand that's coming from the Department of ITI. I'm just wondering how the department works with Transportation and Public Works and Services who does the procurement of these assets. I guess I'm having difficulty and with the fact that I'm having to deal with three different departments to deal with one issue on plow trucks.

How can we simplify this process? Can the Minister indicate to me whether Public Works and Services shared services and BIP should be merged together?

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Obviously, with a day and a half left of this sitting and a couple weeks left in the life of this government, that is a decision that the 18 th Legislative Assembly would have to take into consideration. I can say that we do continuously discuss these types of items with Public Works and Services. We need to all be on the same page when it comes to advancing manufacturing here in the Northwest Territories and ensuring that the government dollars that are used on procuring products are spent here in the Northwest Territories wherever possible.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

We're not being unreasonable here. We know there are several companies that supply trucks to the Northwest Territories. We have no problem with other companies bidding truck versus truck, but we need that work done in the Northwest Territories. Currently, some of the bids that are going forward are 51 percent over a $200,000 project; 51 percent is labour, construction, welding in the Northwest Territories, with the one contractor. With the other contractor, that work is being done in Ontario and in Quebec.

Is the Minister committed to making companies required to do the work in the North?

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Currently, plow trucks are not included as manufactured products under the northern manufacturing directive. Unlike fuel trucks, there are no major components of plow trucks manufactured in the Northwest Territories. We have gone back to King Manufacturing. We're waiting to get some more information from them. Again, this has not been denied. It is under review and we'll have to see where that review takes us and the discussion about where it all falls out will lie with the 18 th Legislative Assembly. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bouchard .

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like I indicated, it seems like we're trying to find ways to support southern businesses. We need to find, and my question is, how can a company provide 51 percent labour welding services and still not be BIP'd. Why is that BIP being delayed? Thank you.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you. Under the current rules of BIP, it's being