Debates of March 5th, 1997

This is page numbers 1097 - 1133 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was aboriginal .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Aboriginal Languages Month And Francophone Week

Recognition And Gratititude For GNWT Employees

NWT Literacy Council Challenge

International Women's Day

Regulatory Reform Initiative

The Beliefs Of The Residents Of The Nwt

The Appreciation Of The Inuktitut Language

Stimulated Economy From Negotiated Contracts

The Importance Of Language On Culture

Family Law Bills

Aspirations And Abilities Of NWT Youth

Greetings To Inuvik

Acknowledgement Of Efforts To Preserve The Inuktitut Language

Different Dialects In The Communities

Plan 2000

Accomplishments Of The House During Session

The Importance Of The Inuktitut Language

The Value Of Education

Importance Of Aboriginal Languages

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Central Coordinator For Nunavut Infrastructure Committee

Benefits Of Negotiated Contracts

Unpaid Hall Beach Cemetery Workers

Help With Filing Income Tax

Concern With Hunters' And Trappers' Budget

Timeframe For Negotiated Contracts

Building The School For Clyde River

Conditions For Negotiated Contracts

Socio-economic Impact And Benefits Agreement

Registration Under The Business Incentive Policy

Update On Med-emerg Review

Inquiry For A Committee To Monitor Economic Spin-off

Support For Training Programs For Contractors

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Written Question 22-13(4): Terms Of Employment For Principal

Written Question 23-13(4): Funding For Alcohol And Drug Treatment Programs

Written Question 24-13(4): Negotiated And Sole-sourced Contract Policies

Return To Written Question 15-13(4): Information On Grievances

Return To Written Question 16-13(4): Staff Training Participation Levels

Return To Written Question 17-13(4): Lay-off Provisions - Education Leave Option

Item 9: Replies To Opening Address

Item 10: Petitions

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Appointments For Nunavut Electoral Boundary Commission

Nunavut Electoral Boundaries Commission

Appointment Of An Information And Privacy Commissioner

Condolences To Family In Arctic Bay

Item 17: First Reading Of Bills

Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills

Written Question 21-13(4): Policy On Non-competitive Contracts

Item 10: Petitions

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Bill 8: Appropriation Act, 1997/98

Bill 2: Justice Administration Statutes Amending Act

Bill 12: Act To Amend The Student Financial Assistance Act

Bill 9: Forgiveness Of Debts Act

Bill 10: Supplementary Appropriation Act No. 3, 1996/97

Bill 11: Loan Authorization Act 1997/98

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Honourable Samuel Gargan , Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Don Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .

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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mahsi, Mr. Antoine . (Translation) Thank you, Mr. Antoine . Good morning, Members. Today has been designated Aboriginal Languages Day in the Assembly. As you are aware, Michael Kusugak, the Northwest Territories Literacy Council president challenged myself and the Assembly to set one day aside on which Members would speak their aboriginal language in the Assembly. I have waived the requirement for advance notice under our Language Services Policy and urge all Members who speak an aboriginal language to consider using it today when they are addressing the House. (Translation ends)

It is very important that aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories, our grandparents, moms and dads, our siblings and our people, see that their languages are alive and are being used on a regular basis. As Members of the Legislative Assembly, we play a major role for the people in a number of areas including the promotion of aboriginal languages. We here in the Legislative Assembly provide Inuktitut translation on a daily basis and rotate the provision of Dene and French languages services on a weekly basis.

We have to remember that language is an important aspect of our culture and today, when many of our languages are struggling to survive, it is critical that we, as leaders, do our part to help preserve them. Being aboriginal role models must start with aboriginal leaders. Do not just talk the talk, but walk the walk.

(Translation) I would also like to thank the president and members of the NWT Literacy Council and the Languages Commissioner, Judi Tutcho of Deline, for their efforts in promoting the use of aboriginal languages and helping to arrange activities to celebrate Aboriginal Languages Month. I urge all communities in the Northwest Territories to join in the celebrations promoting aboriginal languages, it is so important in this day and age. Also, I would like to urge all Members to use their language. If we do so, we will continue to be strong. This is what I would like to say about aboriginal languages for today. Thank you very much. (Translation ends)

-- Applause

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 70-13(4): Aboriginal Languages Month And Francophone Week

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to acknowledge the beginning of Aboriginal Languages Month and also to remind Members that March 16th to 22nd is Francophone Week.

All across the NWT, community organizations and individuals will be undertaking initiatives that promote the importance of languages.

In order to commemorate Aboriginal Languages Month and Francophone Week in a meaningful way, the Department of Executive has established a Community Language Leader Award Program. This award is designed to recognize individuals who promote the use of their language.

Later on this month, I will be happy to once again announce the winners of the Community Language Leader Award.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to take this opportunity to advise the House that later today I will be tabling the 1995/96 GNWT Annual Report on Official Languages.

Thank you. Mahsi.

-- Applause

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Minister's Statement 70-13(4): Aboriginal Languages Month And Francophone Week

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 71-13(4): Recognition And Gratititude For GNWT Employees

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As this session of the 13th Assembly draws to a close, I would like to take a few moments to speak to the employees of the Government of the Northwest Territories. Over the past several weeks, there have been a number of issues that have come up in relation to staffing of government positions. In fact, this session has been a particularly heavy one with all of the implications and questions surrounding the government's hiring practices and a budget which represents the second year of a two-year deficit reduction plan.

It is understandable that what has been discussed over the past eight weeks has brought some stress to some people and, perhaps at times, you felt as if you are no more than just a number on a piece of paper.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to reassure all employees of this government that the decisions we make in the Legislative Assembly are not made lightly nor without thorough consideration on how it affects government employees. As we noted at the beginning of the budget process, the past 12 months have been a time of unprecedented change in the way that government programs and services are delivered. But with the passing of the 1997-98 budget, our restructuring is largely complete. We can now look forward to greater stability within this government.

-- Applause

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Minister's Statement 71-13(4): Recognition And Gratititude For GNWT Employees

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, stability does not mean we will stand still as an organization, but it does mean we can better manage our future and how we handle changes to the public service. On behalf of all of the Members of the Legislative Assembly, I would like to offer a sincere thank you to all government employees for your patience and understanding as we have publicly debated initiatives and actions that may affect you directly and personally. It is debatable which is harder, to set the vision or to fulfil it. But one thing is for sure, we need to work together to make it all happen.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to recognize all of the Members in this House for realizing we must not forget the effect our decisions have on individuals. It is easy to lose sight of the people themselves when we limit our discussions to numbers, statistics, cultural backgrounds or the places we come from, but I believe that every Member of this House truly cares about the people who make up our public service.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this occasion to publicly recognize all of the employees of the Government of the Northwest Territories. The efforts you put in every day of the year make a difference. You are the backbone of this government. While your good work rarely makes the headlines of the newspapers, there is one thing you can be certain of, you are valued and appreciated. Thank you and mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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Minister's Statement 71-13(4): Recognition And Gratititude For GNWT Employees

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Morin . Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent .

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Minister's Statement 72-13(4): NWT Literacy Council Challenge

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, my fellow colleagues. (Translation ends) Language is the cornerstone of culture and heritage. As part of Aboriginal Languages Month, the NWT Literacy Council has issued a special challenge to the Members of this Assembly. The Council has asked us to set aside one day during which we speak in an aboriginal language whenever we address this Assembly. I am pleased to join you in announcing that today is Aboriginal Languages Day. Mr.

Speaker, while I do not speak an aboriginal language, I will try to work some words in aboriginal languages into my statement today, so I hope Members and the interpreters will bear with me. Mr. Speaker, each of the NWT's aboriginal groups best expresses its unique world view and approach to life through its own language. If NWT children are to truly understand their culture, it is essential that they learn to communicate in their aboriginal language. Mr.

Speaker, while they receive instruction in language and culture at school, it is important that this is reinforced in the home. (Translation) I encourage all parents who speak an aboriginal language to speak it to their children. (Translation ends)

-- Applause

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Literacy Council is encouraging communities across the NWT to celebrate aboriginal languages by organizing community and school events and speaking and reading in their aboriginal language whenever possible. Adults can also learn more about their culture by learning more about their language. As people work to develop their skill in speaking aboriginal languages, I urge them to consult their community's elders. (Translation unavailable) Our elders are our most important resource.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the staff of the Language Bureau for their work in supporting aboriginal languages in the Northwest Territories over the past 25 years. In addition to interpreting and translating, they develop new terminology to ensure that translations are precise and keep up with the demands of a changing world. The interpreter/communicators carry out their work with dedication and professionalism. I would like to thank them for the important work they do and the role they play in helping us understand each other.

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Minister's Statement 72-13(4): NWT Literacy Council Challenge

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Some Hon. Members

Hear! Hear!

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Minister's Statement 72-13(4): NWT Literacy Council Challenge

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to thank the NWT Literacy Council for the work it does in promoting the aboriginal languages of the Northwest Territories. I encourage all Members of this Assembly to use an aboriginal language when they speak today. Let us meet the Council's challenge. Qujannamiik, mahsi, merci, quanaq.

-- Applause

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Minister's Statement 72-13(4): NWT Literacy Council Challenge

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson .

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Minister's Statement 73-13(4): International Women's Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) Mr. Speaker, March 8 is a special day. On this day we celebrate International Women's Day. A day when people, not just from the Northwest Territories but from around the world, come together to celebrate the contribution of women to society. Mr. Speaker, women are playing an increasingly strong role in identifying issues and in shaping community and territorial direction. However, this is not a job for women alone. All of us, parents, family units, churches, community leaders and government must share in the work that has to be done. Mr.

Speaker, International Women's Day is a day for women and men to recognize and celebrate the contributions women have made to society. Northern women, whether they are involved in traditional pursuits or the wage economy, are helping to make a difference in today's world

and they will continue to do so, every day of the year. While there are still problems and systemic barriers that need to be overcome, Mr. Speaker, International Women's Day will celebrate the fact that every woman makes a difference. This special day will allow women and men around the world the opportunity to reflect on women's progress, celebrate this effort and acknowledge the work that is yet to be done. (Translation ends)

Mr. Speaker, there will be a telephone phone-in show for youth that is intended to stimulate thought and discussion about teen life. "Live and Well" will be on self-esteem for young women in the north. I encourage people to tune in live or tape this TV show on Wednesday, that is tonight, March 5, as part of International Women's Week celebrations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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Minister's Statement 73-13(4): International Women's Day

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Ms. Thompson . Ministers' statements. Mr. Todd .

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Minister's Statement 74-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The improvement of economic conditions is one of the core priorities of this government. A key component of that goal includes establishing an appropriate regulatory environment which protects northerners while minimizing government "red tape" and eliminating unnecessary barriers to economic growth.

Today, along with my honourable colleague, the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , I am pleased to announce a new initiative that will improve the way this government carries out its regulatory responsibilities. A small, specialized Regulatory Reform Secretariat will be established to consult with stakeholder organizations, business people, local governments and concerned individuals to find ways in which our regulatory programs and services can be delivered better.

The secretariat will use the feedback it receives during these consultations to find new efficiencies in program delivery and to eliminate outdated or unnecessary regulatory processes which are creating impediments to the growth of northern industry and business. The initiative will be a joint responsibility of the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , who will take the lead in responding to matters raised in the House regarding the work of the Regulatory Reform Secretariat.

Mr. Speaker, I want to emphasize that any reform of regulatory programs and services will be structured in such a manner as to ensure that the health, safety, workplace fairness and environmental quality of northerners are not adversely affected. At the same time, however, it has become increasingly clear that many of our current regulatory regimes have evolved in isolation from each other, sometimes to the point where they are unduly complicated and cumbersome. Often, there has been little or no adequate northern input on the adoption of codes and standards. Many stakeholders believe that too much of our regulatory policy and legislation is outdated, excessive and ineffective.

Over the course of the Regulatory Reform Initiative, we will identify measures for making sure that regulatory programs are consistent with the government's fiscal situation, with the current state of business and industry across the north, and with the emerging needs brought about by technological change or workplace trends. We will be examining alternative mechanisms for the delivery of inspections, licensing and other services and we will be finalizing the work initiated by the previous government on the reform of liquor control legislation and practices.

Of course, input and involvement of honourable Members will be vital to the success of this endeavour and we will work closely with the standing committees and MLAs throughout each stage of the Regulatory Reform Initiative.

-- Applause

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Minister's Statement 74-13(4): Regulatory Reform Initiative

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Todd . Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Steen .

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The Beliefs Of The Residents Of The Nwt

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker. Today my statement will be centred around the obviously strong beliefs of the residents of this territory, be they of a personal, cultural or spiritual nature. Mr. Speaker, I am convinced these beliefs are deeply embedded in the aboriginal people as well as non-aboriginals. For instance, I am sure that some Inuit and Inuvialuit people still believe in the powers of the Anako or medicine man or woman.

I am also of the opinion each and every person in this territory is entitled to their own particular beliefs and no one should be forced to accept the beliefs of another. Personally speaking, I believe these beliefs are there to guide us through life on a daily basis. What happens when a person attempts to ignore these fundamental principles? I hope the final story, Mr. Speaker, will speak for itself.

Mr. Speaker, during the time the great cattle drives were taking place in the late 1800s across the State of Texas, three cowhands happened to be taking

part in the cattle round-up. One evening, as they sat around the fire, two of these fellows got into a heated discussion on, of all things, the configuration of the earth and as to whether the earth was flat or round. The first cowhand said he had strong personal beliefs that the earth was flat and if a person walked far enough in a straight line, he would eventually fall off the edge of the earth. The second cowhand replied, "Don't act like a darned fool, there is no way this could be true as I heard tell of a fellow named Columbus who sailed a ship completely around the earth, thereby proving the earth was indeed round and furthermore,

since he was passing this information on toll-free, it should be accepted for what it is worth."

Mr. Speaker, I ask for unanimous consent to complete my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Nunakput is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? Mr. Steen , you have unanimous consent.

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Qujannamiik, my honourable colleagues. The first cowhand replied, "See here, as far as I am concerned, you have no call to go after me in such a high-handed manner, telling me what I should believe or should not believe. I will believe what I feel like." Since these two cowhands could not reach an agreement, they turned to the third cowhand, who was sitting there listening to this argument and they asked him his opinion as to who was right and who was wrong. The third cowhand replied, "You are both wrong.

The earth is square." The second cowhand asked him, "How in tarnation did you ever come to that conclusion?" The third cowhand replied, "I can prove it" and, with that, he pulled out a battered copy of the good book from his coat pocket and quoted from the scriptures, "'For they shall come from the four corners of the earth...'" and who are we to argue with the scriptures?"

-- Laughter

As a result, the argument got even more heated and, since these were strong-minded people willing to go to any length to protect their beliefs, they could not settle this argument peacefully. Therefore, they turned to the traditional method of the times and had themselves an old-fashioned shootout. After the smoke and dust had settled, there appeared to be only one point proven as a result of all this commotion. That point was that some people will go to any extremes to defend or force their beliefs on others, whether they are of a personal, cultural or spiritual nature.

Mr. Speaker, a person might ask how these events relate to this day and age. Also, Mr. Speaker, we do not know who among these strong-minded men won the shootout. However, one might arrive at the conclusion by the simple method of elimination, based on a belief that still exists today. We know that nowadays, no one believes any more the earth is flat, therefore the first cowhand could not have survived the shootout. Did the cowhand who was convinced the earth was round win the shootout? This would be a pretty sure bet as modern-day scientific technology has confirmed beyond a doubt that the earth is indeed round.

That leaves the beliefs of the cowhand who believed the earth was square. Did he survive the shootout? It is hard to say because, even though the scientific community has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the earth is as round as a ball, to this day and age it is still written in the scriptures and I quote, "For they shall come from the four corners of the earth." Mr. Speaker, someone may again ask, who are we to argue with the scriptures? With that, Mr. Speaker, I would like to offer you and the rest of my honourable colleagues, a happy and toil- free Easter.

-- Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Steen . Members' statements. Mr. Evaloarjuk .

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The Appreciation Of The Inuktitut Language

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays, Mr. Evaloarjuk . You have unanimous consent.

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The Appreciation Of The Inuktitut Language

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you. Also there is tisillukkaaq which means the snow is hard and also another word is qanniuq which means that when there is a snowfall, the soft snow on top of the hard snow is called that. When you are walking on the snow and you find the ground is soft, you call that maujaq. There is also another word called ujjajuq and that would be when there is a storm and the ground becomes hard. Also there is sittujaaq another word in Inuktitut describing snow and it is when there is a blizzard or when there is a snow drift.

Those are the different types of snows that I could describe in Inuktitut and I am glad that I was able to teach the Members a few things in Inuktitut. Thank you. (Translation ends)

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Evaloarjuk . Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .

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Stimulated Economy From Negotiated Contracts

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, my statement today is regards to an issue that has come up several times in this House, it relates to negotiated contracts. In the region I represent, negotiated contracts have been in place for several years. The aboriginal organizations, the Gwich'in Tribal Council, the Government of the Northwest Territories, the Inuvialuit Regional Corporation, in regards to the down turn of the oil and gas industry in the Mackenzie Delta, there has become a

real need to find other initiatives to generate employment and have people generate work to keep people off social programs. In regards to negotiated contracts in my region which has stimulated that economy to enhance the region as it is today. Yes, we have problems in relation to social problems. We do have problems in trying to promote the economics of the regions. Yet, this government has steadfastedly supported the initiatives of these organizations. Also, the Chamber of Commerce of Inuvik has supported negotiated contracts with this government. Mr.

Speaker, in relation to aboriginal organizations like the Gwich'in Tribal Council, Inuvialuit Regional Corporation, they put a high priority on human resource development. One of the main objectives is to provide employment, training, and business opportunities to the people they represent. The Gwich'in Tribal Council, along with the Aurora College, has sponsored education programs in which there are Gwich'in students presently enrolled in apprentice programs for carpentry, electricians, plumbers, trades, and the Gwich'in Tetlit'zheh Trucking Ltd. has provided two driving training programs in the last two years.

They are looking at implementing another one this year to allow individuals to receive their class one driver's licence to operate heavy equipment. Since 1993, the Gwich'in, through Tetlit'zheh Construction has... Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Samuel Gargan

The Member for Mackenzie Delta is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do I have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Krutko , you have unanimous consent.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, since 1993, Tetlit'zheh Construction Ltd. has completed some 35 specific projects and generated $35.4 million in revenues. In 1995, Tetlit'zheh Construction generated $9 million in revenues and over $6 million went to materials, supplies, and subcontracts. $1.5 million of that went to the labour. In 1996, Tetlit'zheh Construction generated over $11 million in revenues, of that, $8 million went to materials, supplies, and subcontracts and over $2 million went to labour.

The total revenues for those two years were almost $20 million, $14 million went to materials, suppliers, and subcontracts, and $3.5 million went to labour. Mr. Speaker, in relation to these dollars being left in the Inuvik and Mackenzie Delta region, in the Inuvik region alone, there were 41 subcontractors, which left $12,500,000 in the Inuvik economy. Also, there were two suppliers and subcontractors in Yellowknife, $1,600,000 was left in the Yellowknife economy. In Fort McPherson, there were 7 suppliers and subcontractors and $1,700,000 was left in Fort McPherson. Mr.

Speaker, the point I am trying to make is that without negotiated contracts, a lot of these dollars would not remain in the communities. Especially in relation to revenues staying in communities and the regions in regards to negotiated contracts, which puts northern people to work and keeps the money in the north, especially in our region. With that, mahsi cho, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca .

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The Importance Of Language On Culture

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James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) Mr. Speaker, today in honour of Aboriginal Languages Day, I am speaking in my native language. Most of my constituents, especially the elders, will be happy for this day. It is very important that we, as the different aboriginal groups across this country, make an attempt to keep their language alive. It is very important for our culture to keep our language. Mr. Speaker, today we find ourselves on the last day of this sitting. I thought it would be good to reflect on the last few weeks.

As we all know, we started sitting on January 21st and since then we have had numerous heated discussions regarding the budget's deficit cutting measures, employee housing, reduction of speed on Highway 3 and numerous other topics. At times, it has been a struggle to maintain our focus. However, through everything we have been able to provide this government with direction and insight. Mr. Speaker, it is now time for us to go home, visit with our family and friends, get out on the land to recharge our batteries and to give thanks to our creator for the things we have.

I know we all need this coming rest and I look forward to it. Mr. Speaker, this coming break will be good for all. There are still many items that we must deal with and one of the most important ones will be the community consultation with our western NWT constitution. This, I am sure, will prove to be most interesting. I hope that our community leaders will see this as a positive move and assist us to ensure we come up with the best possible constitution that will reflect the diverse cultural society we live in. Mr. Speaker, I hope everyone will have a safe journey home and a very restful break. Mahsi, Mr.

Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. I have allowed the Member from North Slave to go on, but perhaps just to remind the Members to take a glance at your clocks when you are making your statements so that when your time is up, you seek unanimous consent to conclude. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Family Law Bills

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with yesterday's session we came to the end of a very difficult budgetary road that we mapped out for ourselves 16 months ago. The amount of work that has been done by this Assembly and the government in this area has been unprecedented. While the process is not over, it is now time to turn our minds and attentions to other initiatives. One initiative I would like to briefly talk about today is going to affect every man, woman, and child in the Northwest Territories. That is the family law bills that are now before this House.

We will be going across the Northwest Territories seeking input from the people. Mr. Speaker, there are acts that are going to affect children, families, parents, spouses, single parents, adopted children, there will be no one who is not unaffected by these particular pieces of legislation. It is going to be very important that the communities are aware of this information, they have a chance to look at it, provide input to ourselves, to their MLAs, and to the groups in their communities that are involved in these areas. Mr.

Speaker, without a doubt this is the single biggest legislative amendment of this Assembly. It is not a political one. It is not talking about relationships with Ottawa

and looking at constitutions. It is talking about every day life in the communities and how people and families live together. I strongly urge all the MLAs, when they go back to their communities and all the people listening, to seriously look at these particular pieces of legislation. They are very important. The legislation we now have is years and years out of date and often contradicted itself. Now is the chance to make a change that is going to affect everybody beneficially. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Members' statements. Mr. Enuaraq .

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Aspirations And Abilities Of NWT Youth

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Enuaraq . Members' statements. Mr. Roland .

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Greetings To Inuvik

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends) I have used this and I made a quick call to my Aapaga in Inuvik. I have a couple of messages, one in Inuinnaqtun and I hope I get this right. (Translation unavailable) means I am going home soon.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

I would like to also send a greeting back and I will do this in Inuktitut and I hope that I do it justice. To my family (Translation) I would like to say hello to my family in Inuvik. (Translation ends)

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Members' statements. Mr. O'Brien .

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Acknowledgement Of Efforts To Preserve The Inuktitut Language

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. (Translation unavailable) Mr. Speaker, I wish to recognize and acknowledge the dedicated work of the elders and educators of Arviat and Baker Lake for their tireless efforts in preserving and promoting the Inuktitut language. Mahsi cho. (Translation unavailable)

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. O'Brien . Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas .

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Different Dialects In The Communities

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would like to use my aboriginal language. First of all, I am very proud of our language. When you travel to the Baffin communities, you can appreciate the different dialects that are spoken in the Baffin communities. I am very proud of our language, even though they have different dialects. If I come from northern Quebec and I say that I am afraid in Inuktitut, then in my community it means that I am happy or vice versa. As well, when I was a member of the education authority, I have come across a lot of community members who have lost their language.

This was a great loss to them. We had witnessed community members who would cry because they have lost their aboriginal languages. I am proud of our people today who can hold onto their aboriginal languages. As well, with regards to students in our communities, when they are working with the older people from our community, they are collecting historical information from the elders from the communities. This is great to be preserved as well and put into data for later use. This is also in Inuktitut. I would thank to thank the rest of the Members for putting up with me. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Barnabas . Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .

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Plan 2000

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

(Translation): Good morning, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. (Translation ends) Today, I would like to speak on Plan 2000 which was recently announced by the Minister for the NWT Housing Corporation. The title of 2,000 homes by the year 2,000 is certainly very catchy, Mr. Speaker. However, we do need to scrutinize this further and to seek further clarification on it. I would like to say a few words about the housing situation in the Territories. How many times have we heard that the NWT is in the midst of a housing crisis? It is very true.

Plan 2,000 is a good bandwagon to jump on because of what it conjures up, our images of overcrowding, extended families living under one roof, matchbox houses, four children in one bed, wind howling through the cracks in the walls of substandard shacks. We associate housing crisis with aggravated social problems, lack of privacy, interrupted sleep for children who cannot stay awake in school. We all agree that basic shelter for our citizens is a laudable goal and a responsibility of this government, particularly those in most need.

If those in crisis shortage of houses are the target of our housing initiatives as a government with limited resources, we do have to ask are we hitting the right target? The housing crisis shortage exists in level 2 and 3 communities, Mr. Speaker. They are designated as level 2 or 3 for a good

reason. They have the highest unemployment, the least developed economies and private sector markets, but, Mr. Speaker, while they are the poorest communities, they are also least likely to have many income earners between $50,000 and $90,000 per year who can walk into a chartered bank and secure a residential mortgage even with a downpayment assistance. Plan 2000 is directed to those employed in the wage economy. The question, therefore, needs to be asked, is this a program accessible to many people in level 1 communities like Yellowknife, Fort Smith and Hay River?

But this is not where the housing crisis exists. Level 1 communities presently have a record number of homes on the market for sale. A 50 year low in interest rates and other incentives provided for first home buyers by CMHC have caused an increase in residential construction. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Ootes , you have unanimous consent.

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Plan 2000

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Qujannamiik (Translation unavailable) Safeguards have to be built in to ensure there is no unwarranted disruption in the private sector market in level 1 communities where there is no housing crisis. Also, the public needs more information and clarification on this particular issue. Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister to address this particular concern. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation unavailable) Mahsi cho.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco .

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Accomplishments Of The House During Session

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends) (Translation unavailable) has reached watershed stage with the completion of a projected balanced budget yesterday.

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Bravo! Bravo!

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

With the projected surplus, hopefully the GNWT has turned the corner and we will be able to, as an Assembly, focus on the needs of the people instead of the needs of our creditors. New employment strategies to new housing initiatives and some of the regulatory reform work that will become the focus as we lead into division are important steps in that direction. I think that the people of the NWT are tired of hearing the doom and gloom of deficit reductions.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

I know I am.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, on Friday many of us will be going home for the first time since the 15th of January. Although the hospitality of Yellowknifers is second to none, it will be good to get back home. We will then have to reflect on some of the legislation, debates and, of course, the budget passed by the 13th Assembly. There have been some good debates over the past several weeks and, although I have not agreed to all of the budgetary measures, it is within the framework of our legislative system that allows me and every MLA the right to say that.

I would like to take this opportunity to publicly thank my wife, friends and my wife's co-workers, who have been supportive of my family while I have been away. Sometimes being in the public eye is very difficult and stressful, but it can also be stressful for the people at home. As today is Aboriginal Languages Day, I would like to take this opportunity to say to my wife. (Translation unavailable) Mahsi cho, qujannamiik, merci, quanaq (Translation unavailable) Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Mr. Ningark .

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The Importance Of The Inuktitut Language

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Another topic with regards to what Mark Evaloarjuk was talking about as he was referring to different types of snow. I appreciate this as well because we have different meanings as well. Mr. Speaker, when we get into the Nunavut government, the Inuktitut language will be the working language and I am very proud of this. As well, with regards to our children, they are being taught the Inuktitut language and they are also being provided assistance through the government for their education curriculum, which is provided in the Inuktitut language. Language is part of your heritage. It shows who you are.

When we are at home, we do use our language, but when we are in different communities, we have different names for different items or different things, maybe even with the land. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus .

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The Value Of Education

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My Member's statement today is on the value of education. Mr.

Speaker, there is a strong relationship between education and income and employment levels. Fourteen percent of Canadians 15 and over, have less than a grade nine education. At the same time in the NWT, 27 percent of our residents, 15 and over, have less than a grade nine education. That is two times higher than the Canadian average. Mr. Speaker, dropping out involves high costs to government. Canadian society loses billions of dollars over the lifetime of dropouts.

For example, Canada will lose $4 billion over the working lifetime of the nearly 140,000 youths who dropped out instead of graduating in the class of 1989. Costs include less earning before spending and lost tax revenue. Costs also include the personal cost to the dropouts. Studies have shown that dropouts experience more social problems. These social problems include poor personal health, lower social status, higher unemployment, dependents of social security payments and their children as well are less likely to stay in school. It is a never ending cycle.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT spends proportionately less on education than the Yukon and the provinces. It is no wonder that we have the lowest education rate in Canada, if we spend the least amount on education per capita. Mr. Speaker, this cannot be allowed to continue. We need to put more money into adult education. We cannot leave our education levels at a rate where people with grade nine or less are two times higher than the Canadian average. Thank you. Mahsi.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Erasmus . Members' statements. Mr. Antoine .

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Importance Of Aboriginal Languages

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

(Translation) The Member for Nahendeh is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Antoine , you have unanimous consent to conclude your statement. Mr. Antoine . (Translation ends)

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Morin .

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Return To Question 376-13(4) Affirmative Action Policy

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Ootes . Mr. Ootes asked what percentage of GNWT employees employed in labour and related jobs are aboriginal and what percentage of GNWT employees employed as social workers and wildlife officers are aboriginal.

Government-wide data for 1995 has just been completed and verified. Based on the 1995 data from the Government Human Resources Information System and from Stanton Regional Hospital and the health boards, 71.3 percent of the GNWT's labourer and trade work force are aboriginal. Wildlife officers and social workers are included as program delivery staff. Aboriginal people make up 52.4 percent of all GNWT program delivery staff. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 1104

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Mr. Dent .

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Page 1104

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a reply to an oral question asked by Mr. Ootes on February 18th, 1997. Mr. Speaker, the Department of Education, Culture, and Employment has carried out an analysis of the overall work force and GNWT staff in both the east and the west. For Nunavut, this work has supported the development of Inuit employment plans and the Nunavut Unified Human Resources Development Strategy. For the west, this work has provided planning documents for use by departments, boards, and agencies. However, a comprehensive plan for the development of the western public service has not been prepared.

The federal commitment of incremental funding for training in Nunavut is based, in part, on

Article 23 of the Nunavut Land Claim. This

article commits the Government of the Northwest Territories to increase Inuit employment "to a representative level." As well, the Nunavut Political Accord signed by Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated, Canada, and the Government of the Northwest Territories, reinforced the importance of a significant commitment to training and development in order to meet this goal. These commitments are unique and are not reflected in agreements related to the western Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, to further strengthen northern employment, this government has undertaken a number of broad initiatives including the development of an economic planning framework, a labour force development plan, and a northern employment strategy. We are also working on specific training initiatives, such as mining. The GNWT is supporting self-government negotiations in the west, as well as the development of a constitution for the western territory.

However, Mr. Speaker, there is no existing commitment made by the federal government in a land claim or through an accord concerning the west which would commit the federal government to provide additional funds for training in the western territory. However, in formula financing negotiations with the federal government, the Government of the Northwest Territories will strive to ensure that there is adequate funding to run both territories after division.

Mr. Speaker, copies of the planning documents prepared for the west will be forwarded to the Member for Yellowknife Centre for his information. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Returns to oral questions. Ms. Thompson .

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 1105

Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Edward Picco on February 24, 1997.

I have reviewed the department's fire training plan in preparing my response to the Member's question on GNWT support for the emergency response services program at the Iqaluit airport. In 1995/96, MACA and the Department of Safety and Public Services initiated a three-year fire training plan to better address the training needs of community fire departments.

This training plan was aimed at addressing recommendations of the NWT Association of Municipalities and the NWT Fire Chiefs Association, which called for public education programs, basic fire fighter and specialized fire command officer training. The goal of this initiative was to develop a foundation for community-based fire instruction and public education programs. Community participants are provided Level 1 and 2 fire fighter training, which is followed up by community specific training on local equipment and facilities. Command officer training and train-the-trainer programs are also offered to selected candidates.

However, funding was not provided as a part of this initiative for a training program to support ERS at airports. The level of service to be provided must be rationalized with the actual risk and the ability to respond. This issue prompted Transport Canada to revise regulations which removed the necessity for providing dedicated full-time ERS at most Canadian airports. Statistics do not support the maintenance of full-time ERS at all airports.

It is not recommended that ERS response be maintained at any but the busiest airports. There are serious liability concerns if an airport attempted to maintain a full ERS response but was unable to prevent certain fatalities after a serious accident. It would not be necessary to utilize the Duluth training facility, referenced by the Member earlier in the House, unless the government was committed to maintaining a full ERS response capability. This would be a very expensive proposition.

Airport certification requirements do not require an ERS response but do require an adequate airport emergency plan to be in place. The risk management advice received by the government supports the premise that this more cost effective approach will minimize the liability that may follow an airport incident.

MACA plans to collaborate with the Department of Transportation and the town of Iqaluit on the development of an airport emergency plan which will reflect new emergency response arrangements. Planning will need to commence to revise the airport emergency plan to establish formal links with the GNWT regional emergency committee and the town's emergency response system. It is envisaged that the airport emergency plan will operate in conjunction with the community's emergency plan and as a component of the GNWT regional plan.

The GNWT regional plan will be able to provide the medium for a co-ordinated multi-agency response to an airport incident in Iqaluit. This will not be an ERS response, but it is considered a reasonable and manageable plan to implement. The town of Iqaluit will not be asked to maintain the current level of ERS response once provision of this service is terminated by the Department of Transportation on March 31. The town is considering participation in a multi-agency response to an airport incident, which would include territorial and municipal agencies.

The town will be invited to work with the Department of Transportation and MACA officials to establish such a response system. GNWT staff are prepared to initiate this process as soon as agreement from the town is received.

Issues related to appropriate equipment and training will also be addressed during planning meetings, which will need to occur in the immediate future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Page 1105

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Ms. Thompson . Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery, Mr. Ningark .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Qujannamiik. (Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to recognize the divisional board of education chairman, Ms. Pat Thomas. (Translation ends)

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Steen .

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I too would like to recognize Pat Thomas, president of the NWT Teachers' Association. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to stand today to recognize Ms. Pat Thomas, president of the Northwest Territories Teachers' Association and she is my constituent.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of the government, I would like to recognize an old friend and like they say about old friends, sometimes you have a tendency to disagree on certain issues, but friendships do survive that. I would like to recognize Pat Thomas, president of the NWT Teachers' Association, who is a very positive, always smiling. She is very good natured, friendly, honest, hard-working, and just an all around good person and also a very good liberal, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I too would also like to recognize Pat Thomas, who taught in Fort McPherson and a lot of the communities in the north and also has been doing a great job to represent teachers, regardless of the difference between Mr. Todd and herself. Hopefully they can resolve the issue. Welcome to the House, Pat.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Welcome to the Assembly. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. O'Brien .

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Question 454-13(4): Central Coordinator For Nunavut Infrastructure Committee

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Finance , also responsible for division. My question is a follow-up to discussions held recently in Cambridge Bay. It is my understanding that the GNWT, through MACA, will directly or indirectly be involved with the infrastructure arrangements for Nunavut. This will include such areas as site development, water and sewer, et cetera. Can the Minister advise this House whether or not there is a central co-ordinator in place to ensure that all parties are on the same wavelength and in sync? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it is important to point out that we are managing this. Thirty-four million dollars of community infrastructure is required as my honourable colleague said, for rural development pads, et cetera, that will be associated with the decentralized hub of the NIC. While we do not write the cheques, we are assisting federal government in the overall co-ordination of the requirements in these communities and it is my understanding that my colleague, the honourable Manitok Thompson 's deputy minister chairs a co-ordinating committee to do exactly that. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. O'Brien .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, with the proposed infrastructure and promised jobs for the smaller communities like Arviat and Baker Lake, it will be necessary to have the majority of the infrastructure in place prior to 1999. Mr. Speaker, in order for these proposed jobs to become a reality, there has been a commitment by the federal Minister to spend millions of dollars on various construction projects. Can the Minister confirm whether or not there is policy in place as to how these projects or contracts will be tender? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is important to indicate, as I have on a number of occasions, that the responsibility for the development of the infrastructure of office space, housing, et cetera, lies with the federal Department of Public Works through DIAND and our partners in division, NTI. We have a limited involvement in that. It is almost marginalized. We do not have, at this time, any indication as to how they are going to go about the construction phase of it. We understand it and are sympathetic that the ultimate ownership of the assets on the ground will be owned and operated by NTI.

On the actual construction and the rules of engagement, as to how that construction is going to go about, whether it will be public tendered, whether it will be negotiated, whether all northern businesses will have access to it, whether some of our northern preference policies are included, we are not aware to what degree and how the NTI and the federal government are going to go about building this infrastructure. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. O'Brien .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am sure the Minister can understand that there are a number of small contractors in the operative communities that are awaiting the word as to exactly how these contracts will be awarded. I would ask the Minister if he could contact the responsible parties and get a message back to the Members prior to the House reconvening again? Possibly he could write to us over the next two weeks and let us know? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have seen some of the federal time lines and NTI time lines as they relate to infrastructure development. It is my understanding that there is a desire, understandably so, to get moving on this in 1997 and 1998. I would be only too happy to, through the Nunavut Secretariat, communicate with the federal government and ask them for clarity and clarification as to how this infrastructure is going to be built, by whom, and what the rules of engagement are and will communicate directly with all Members of the House. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. O'Brien .

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at the Cambridge Bay meeting, Minister Irwin acknowledged that the infrastructure would be forthcoming and he was somewhat vague about the timing of it. Has Mr. Todd had any word from the federal department or the federal Minister as to the scheduling of the infrastructure? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not have an updated time line

schedule of the infrastructure. With his concurrence, I will add that to the communique that we will have with the federal government next week. We will try to get an update on the time lines and what the rules and regulations are going to be with respect to the construction itself. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. We are still on oral questions. Mr. Krutko is next and we will break until 1:30.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The House will come back to order. We are in question period. Mr. Krutko .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1107

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Premier in regards to my opening statement on the negotiated contracts. There have been a lot of questions about negotiated contracts. While there is a need to make sure there are rules for negotiated contracts, they do provide many benefits to northerners. In my region, I believe the communities have benefitted by negotiated contracts. Can the Premier indicate what the government sees as the benefits of negotiated contracts?

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Premier , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Previously, the way of tendering in the Government of the Northwest Territories saw many outside and southern companies coming into your communities and leaving after the capital projects were done. I could use my community for an example. Prior to becoming an MLA, we had a capital project in our community of a little over $1 million for the building of a bridge. After everything shook out of the wash, less than one percent of those capital dollars were spent in my community.

After that, we started negotiating contracts, not only in the communities that I represent, but many communities throughout the Northwest Territories. We saw, at that time, more dollars were left in the community. People had a tendency to train people in the community so they hired local people. They also learned how to run contracts, learned to administer contracts and we have seen more stay at the community level and at the regional level. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Some Members of the House have suggested that certain groups do not need negotiated contracts anymore with the success of northern development corporations, such as the Gwich'in Development Corporation which has been in place for a number of years, in regards to the contracts they have received. I would like to ask the government, at what point in time does this government see no need for negotiated contracts?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In some communities, where we have had negotiated contracts, there may not be a need for it to continue but there is also the principle of community empowerment that we are looking at. That is another way of talking about negotiated contracts. The

question has to be asked, whether or not groups in the communities can benefit from the dollars spent at the community level to supply services to their own people. Whether that is through community empowerment or negotiated contracts, it is yet to be known. I would like to assure the Member that we do not see ourselves changing direction in the very near future. We will continue to make sure that communities benefit from the dollars that are being spent in them. Now that we have the whole issue of

Article 24, we have made a commitment already to this Legislative Assembly to work on a policy. A negotiated contract policy is being worked on for all departments of the Government of the Northwest Territories. So, we will do that. Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In regards to the employment opportunities in all these small communities which a lot of time are close to nil or pretty close to not having any opportunities, especially the situation we are in with this government in reducing dependency on social programs, has the government looked in regards to the statistics and the human resource development, also the training and economic spin-off to communities by these negotiated contracts, have they done a study on that to do the evaluation? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With all negotiated contracts for the government, it is part of the negotiation that development corporations and community organizations that are carrying out the contract at the community level, have to supply all that information to the government, all the jobs it creates, all the local people they hire, the regional people and where every cent of that contract is spent.

That is part of the information the government compiles and, as Members have seen when they first came here, the best picture that we have seen on the economic front, when we were presented with the economic position of this government and what we did in the previous Assembly to create work in the north, was from our negotiated contracts and our manufacturing in the north. That was the only place we saw the scale go up, where we created more employment in the north, especially at the community level. Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In regards to the overall statistics relating to the employment that is created in the north

and in the communities and also the economic spin-offs, especially for suppliers and sub-contractors, can the Premier make that information available to myself and my colleagues in the House? Thank you.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would request that information from the Ministers who are in charge of contracts, Transportation, Public Works and Services, Housing Corporation, for example, to try and compile that information. I will make it available to the Member as soon as I get it. Thank you.

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Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of MACA and requires her assistance. Mr. Speaker, as I understand it, four people were hired during the summer of 1968 to remove 30 graves from the old Hall Beach Cemetery and then have them moved to the current site. I have been told, Mr. Speaker, that these four people did not get paid for the work that they did. I would like to ask the Minister of MACA if she would look into this situation and advise me of her findings? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Ms. Thompson .

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to let the honourable Member know that I understood him clearly and I will be speaking to the superintendent of MACA, Mike Ferris. He will be working with the community concerning the graves that were relocated in Hall Beach. I will make sure I will look into why these four people did not get paid for the work that they did. Mike Ferris will be working on this as soon as possible. I will let the honourable Member know as soon as I learn what is happening here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends)

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Question 457-13(4): Help With Filing Income Tax

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask a question to the Minister of Finance concerning income tax (Translation ends) about help for unilingual and other constituents with income tax problems. I note that Revenue Canada has placed ads now in Yellowknife newspapers about helping residents here with their income tax. My question to the Minister of Finance is, has he contacted Revenue Canada about my earlier concerns and/or assistance in Nunavut and other parts of the Northwest Territories about help with income tax filings? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Minister of Finance . Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe my staff have been communicating with Revenue Canada to see if there is a possibility to expand these workshops across the Territories as it relates to income tax. Thank you.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at the best of times, income tax forms can be difficult to understand. We have a situation where some people have not filed for two, three, four years, through no fault of their own. My supplementary question is, will the Minister be directing his staff at the regional level or maybe one of the other departments like EC&C, to help deliver workshops in adult education centres or through FMBS offices in the regions, to help people with income tax?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it is important to be clear with my honourable colleague that it is not the role and responsibility of the GNWT employees to do people's personal income tax. However, I do recognize there are, at this time of the year, some difficulties associated with it and would be prepared to sit down with my colleague, Mr. Dent , to see if there was a possibility to do maybe some workshops at adult education centres. I cannot commit today whether in fact we can get that done or not because the clock is ticking, as Mr.

Picco likes to say, and income taxes have to be done in the next short while. I will undertake to discuss it with my colleague who is responsible for adult education to see if there is a possibility there. Thank you.

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Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Picco .

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the concern here is that we have a lot of unilingual people who, when they get these forms, do not understand them and try to find someone to help them with these forms. To go to a professional tax filer, like we have in Iqaluit, costs $150 to $200. That is if you have all the information for them. I wonder if there is any assistance available from this government. I think it is a territorial concern because they are residents of our territory and they are residents of the Northwest Territories.

They are taxpayers in the Northwest Territories and if they do not file their taxes, we do not get that revenue stream. I think there is some implication here for the Northwest Territories government. So, I would ask again, is there some type of financial assistance to help people to find these professional tax filers to help them with income tax, especially for unilingual people? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is no money in the budget if that is what my honourable colleague is saying. I understand the problem, we have all got it. I used to volunteer my time, as I know my honourable colleague did when he was with Community Futures in Iqaluit and was out there doing his thing for his constituents. I will commit to discussing the matter with Mr. Dent to see if there is a possibility to run workshops but it is not the role and responsibility of this government to do individual tax returns and we are not in a position to do that. Thank you.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I had had several phone calls and letters on this issue and I realize the clock is ticking, that is why I brought up the question a couple of weeks ago. I would follow up and I appreciate Minister Todd and Minister Dent having that commitment to sit down and discuss this. I wonder when we could have input then from the Minister and let me know so that I can inform constituents as March 31 is quickly approaching.

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Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, tick, tick, tick as they say in the business of politics. I mean it is March whatever, 6, the last day. We are in a situation where the income tax returns are ticking. I cannot commit today whether in fact we can, across the whole territorial framework, have some kind of system in place that would assist people in income tax. What I will commit to do is to talk to Mr. Dent and see if there is a possibility that somebody could run a workshop of some sort in Iqaluit if that is where he is getting this flood of phone calls from, as my colleague keeps telling us.

Of course, if you would like to provide me now with a list of the names and the telephone numbers of the people, we would be only too happy to respond on an individual basis. However, we will take a look at it and if there is a possibility to run some kind of a workshop on filling in of the income tax form, we would be only too happy to do it. Thank you.

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Thank you, Todd, Todd, Todd.

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Can I ask the Members to limit... You have your pre