Debates of Oct. 24th, 1994

This is page numbers 459 - 477 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was make .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Minister's Absence From The House

Appointments To The NWT Water Board

Engineer And Architecture Program

Affirmative Action Policy

NWT Air Jet Service To Hall Beach

Mammography Screening In The Nwt

Funding For Arctic Winter Games

The Passing Of Mr. John Nanegoak

Moving Royal Oak Mine Headquarters

Dedication Of Monument To Inuit Who Died From Tb

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

United Nations Day

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Mammography Screening Policy

Evaluation Of Affirmative Action Policy

Privatization Of Community Corrections Programs

Extra Revenues Generated By High Water Levels

Contribution For Monument For Inuit Tb Victims

Tb Outbreak In Rae-edzo

Plans For Gjoa Haven Elders' Facility

Approach Taken In 1995-96 O And M Budget Preparations

Status Of Reviewing Change Of Name Procedures

Tracking Of Tobacco Tax Revenues

Survey Of Eligible Pensioners In Communities

Written Question 14-12(6): Policies, Statutes And Regulations As They Apply To By-law Officers

Written Question 15-12(6): Percentage Of Women Receiving Mammography Screening In Nwt

Written Question 16-12(6): Number Of GNWT Employees Eligible For Hardship Allowance

Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Committee Report 6-12(6): Report On The Review Of Bill 3 - Guardianship And Trusteeship Act

Bill 3: Guardianship And Trusteeship Act

To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 3, Deferred

To Defer Consideration Of Bill 3

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell , Hon. Rebecca Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Mr. Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Good afternoon. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Madam Premier .

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Minister's Statement 33-12(6): Minister's Absence From The House

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I wish to advise Members that the Honourable John Todd will be absent from the House for the remainder of the week to attend the Nunavut Tunngavik economic development conference in Rankin Inlet.

Madam Speaker, may I make another statement, please?

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Minister's Statement 34-12(6): Appointments To The NWT Water Board

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, Mr. D'arcy Arden and Mr. Glen Warner have served as members of the NWT Water Board since 1978. Their term of office expired on October 1st. Under the federal Northwest Territories Water Act, the Government of the Northwest Territories is responsible for nominating three members of the nine member board. Mr. Arden and Mr. Warner were two of the three members of the board nominated by the Government of the Northwest Territories.

The Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development recently asked me for advice with respect to the nomination of two members for appointment to that board. After seeking input from MLAs and Cabinet, I have recommended to Minister Irwin that Mr. Robert Hardisty of Fort Simpson and Mr. David Ittinuar of Rankin Inlet be appointed to the NWT Water Board to fill the vacancies created when Mr. Arden and Mr. Warner's terms expire on October 1, 1994.

At this time, I would like to acknowledge the significant role which Mr. Arden and Mr. Warner played in the management of the water resources here in the Northwest Territories. Their participation on the NWT Water Board has been invaluable and very much appreciated. I would also like to thank those Members of this House who provided me with advice respecting possible nominees as well as those individuals who kindly agreed to let their names stand for nomination.

Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 34-12(6): Appointments To The NWT Water Board

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 2, Minister's statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 35-12(6): Engineer And Architecture Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am pleased to announce that the introduction to the engineer and architecture program was a success this past summer. The program is a joint effort between the Departments of Transportation, Municipal and Community Affairs, Northwest Territories Housing Corporation and Public Works and Services, and encourages grade 10 and 11 students to consider university and technical school training in engineering and architecture.

This summer, 18 students from all the regions participated in a one-week orientation in Yellowknife and then returned to their home community for a five-week work assignment. Seven of the participants were aboriginal northerners and five were women. This program will continue next year. It is one way we are encouraging young people to stay in school, get trained and work in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 35-12(6): Engineer And Architecture Program

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Zoe .

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Affirmative Action Policy

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, it has now been nine years since the Government of the Northwest Territories first put into place the native employment policy. The native employment policy was replaced in 1989 with a new policy, the affirmative action policy.

Madam Speaker, in 1989, the Special Committee on Northern Economy published a report entitled "The Government of the Northwest Territories Native Employment Policy: A Review and Assessment." One of the principle recommendations of this report was that the Government of the Northwest Territories conduct an evaluation of a native employment policy. Madam Speaker, this evaluation never took place.

The government, without evaluating the program, went ahead in 1989 and extended the principles of the old policy by including women, disabled persons and indigenous non-aboriginal people and renamed it the affirmative action policy.

Madam Speaker, over the past nine years, the territorial government has spent millions of dollars on affirmative action initiatives, with the primary goal of making the territorial public service competent and representative of the population it serves. In the context of the northern aboriginal population, this would mean a territorial public service made up of over 50 per cent aboriginal people.

Madam Speaker, after nine years of operation and millions of dollars of expenditure, the proportion of aboriginal people in the territorial public service is only about 35 per cent, a percentage increase of approximately five per cent over almost a decade. In terms of aboriginal people in management positions, the proportion is only about 12 per cent.

Madam Speaker, a full scale evaluation of the affirmative action program is long overdue. This evaluation should be carried out by a reputable, independent, third-party consulting firm. Mahsi.

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Affirmative Action Policy

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Amittuq , Mr. Allooloo .

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NWT Air Jet Service To Hall Beach

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the aviation industry will make history again this week with the inaugural flight of NWT Air's 737 jet service to Hall Beach. NWT Air flight 967 and 968 will be the first and only direct service linking Hall Beach to western Canada.

Tomorrow at about this time, Madam Speaker, the jet, which will have originated in Winnipeg, will be leaving Rankin Inlet and will be arriving in Hall Beach in the afternoon. The flight will then leave Hall Beach and return to Winnipeg via Rankin Inlet, arriving in Winnipeg tomorrow evening. Passengers from Edmonton and Yellowknife will also now be able to make same day connections to Hall Beach via Rankin Inlet.

Madam Speaker, this flight will benefit my constituents in several ways. Many of the people in Hall Beach have family members in Rankin Inlet and those people have expressed their appreciation for this improved service. The plane has larger access doors which means that, not only will freight be transportable to Hall Beach and more frequently, larger items such as cars and trucks can now be delivered to the community by air.

NWT Air recognizes Hall Beach as a strategic location, being at the geographical centre of Nunavut. Thanks to NWT Air and also to First Air, which operates flights from Hall Beach to Iqaluit and Taloyoak and Igloolik, Hall Beach now has convenient access to almost every community in Nunavut.

Madam Speaker, on behalf of my constituents, I would like to thank NWT Air for their past and continued commitment to the service of the people of the north. Thank you.

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NWT Air Jet Service To Hall Beach

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Mammography Screening In The Nwt

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, last week, the Minister of Health and Social Services responded to my question about a policy on mammography screening by saying, "A policy is not practical in an evolving field which may require rapid changes to medical practices."

Madam Speaker, it is distressing that the Minister's department seems not to have recognized that a growing number of jurisdictions are developing policies for mammography screening because the medical research proving the value of screening programs is, in fact, overwhelming.

Madam Speaker, broadly speaking, mammography has proven effective, particularly for women aged 50 to 69 and significantly reducing mortality. But only, Madam Speaker, where there is a policy which ensures uniform access to women. When there is a policy of providing the service in a coordinated, programmed manner for women without other symptoms of disease, more lives are saved in the most cost-effective manner.

Madam Speaker, the national workshop on the early detection of breast cancer has proposed that high quality screening be made available to all appropriately aged women throughout the country, including indigenous women and those living in rural areas through programs and dedicated screening sites. This recommendation has been taken seriously in other jurisdictions and, Madam Speaker, I think it is shameful that we, in the NWT, have not.

Madam Speaker, I will be posing further questions to the Minister of Health and Social Services this afternoon on this important issue during question period. Thank you.

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Mammography Screening In The Nwt

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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Funding For Arctic Winter Games

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise today to speak of the Arctic Winter Game trials and summer game trials. It is obvious that these games will continue in the future. Madam Speaker, I urge the government to find some more funding for these Arctic Winter Game and summer game trials that take place in communities. The smaller communities are not often able to raise their own funds for this. I urge the government to look into finding some more funding for this purpose. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Funding For Arctic Winter Games

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot .

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The Passing Of Mr. John Nanegoak

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. On last Wednesday, October 19th, three individuals left Umingmaktok by snowmobile to set fish nets on a lake approximately 30 miles from the community.

John Nanegoak and his niece, Carol Kiloadluk, were on a snowmobile and sled while Doug Stern travelled on his snowmobile. As both Mr. Nanegoak and Mr. Stern are well-seasoned veterans of on-the-land travel, they tested the ice thickness of lakes they travelled on throughout their trip.

After setting his net, Mr. Nanegoak and his niece left first to return to the community by following their same trail. Unfortunately, their trip ended tragically as they broke through the ice before making it back to the land.

It's with deep regret that I announce the passing of the well-respected elder, Mr. John Nanegoak, as a result of an accidental drowning.

Having met John Nanegoak in the early 1980s, I had the greatest respect for him as one of the few remaining individuals living a traditional lifestyle. He was one of the kindest, most carefree and unselfish individuals I have ever had the pleasure of knowing.

Mr. Nanegoak leaves behind a daughter, Jessie Hagialok of Bathurst Inlet; a son and daughter-in-law, Ikey and Helen Nanegoak of Cambridge Bay; two brothers, Tommy Maghagak also of Cambridge Bay and Charlie Keyok of Umingmaktok. He also leaves behind numerous grandchildren, great grandchildren, a great grandchild and dozens of other friends and relatives. My condolences to all family and friends of John Nanegoak on their tragic loss.

Mr. Nanegoak was born and raised in the Bathurst Inlet area and most recently was a resident of Umingmaktok. Many friends and family were brought from Cambridge Bay and Bathurst Inlet to attend the funeral service this past Saturday in Umingmaktok prior to shipping Mr. Nanegoak to his final resting place in Bathurst Inlet.

Madam Speaker, there is one positive side to this tragedy. The young girl, Carol Kiloadluk, was saved from drowning by Mr. Doug Stern, who risked his life by going out on the broken ice and into the water to rescue her, upon his discovering the mishap on his way home.

A lesson to all as a result of this unfortunate incident; that no matter how experienced you are with travelling on the land, always be extra cautious if you have to travel across ice.

Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement, please.

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The Passing Of Mr. John Nanegoak

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Ng .

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The Passing Of Mr. John Nanegoak

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker, and honourable colleagues. Madam Speaker, on behalf of my constituents, the family and I, we wish to thank the Kitikmeot Divisional Board of Education, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, the Department of Health and Social Services, the Bathurst Inlet Lodge and Adlair Aviation for their financial assistance towards the aircraft charter cost for transporting friends and relatives to and from the funeral. Thank you.

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The Passing Of Mr. John Nanegoak

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Moving Royal Oak Mine Headquarters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I want to talk briefly about a lady who is well-known to us; a lady named Peggy Witte, president of the Royal Oak mine. She is the former Peggy Kent, a Member of a prominent family of the small Nevada town of Falon and a graduate of the Mackay School of Mines.

She generated tremendous enthusiasm, during 1994, throughout the mining world, not just Canada and in the States. In fact, she was named by the Mining World News as woman of the year in 1994. Right from the very beginning, I know the lady generated passionate emotion, some for and some against, but I have always been concerned that when a company acquires properties in the Northwest Territories, that you have some sense that you belong to that part of the world. You should have some commitment to it.

So I am sad to say today, Madam Speaker, that despite all the good things that many people may have said about her, the fact that she has now moved the headquarters of Royal Oak from Vancouver to Seattle tells me where her heart really is. It is not in the Northwest Territories or Canada. To me, this is a sad story. We like people to pay their taxes where they make their money. I know that as a chief executive officer, you have an obligation to your shareholders, but you also need the goodwill of the people you have to work with.

Many people have shown goodwill, despite tempestuous times in the Northwest Territories. It is a sad reflection on the state of the industry that this event has taken place, because there was much hope and expectation that this company would become an important part of our structure. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Moving Royal Oak Mine Headquarters

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Dedication Of Monument To Inuit Who Died From Tb

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, many of my constituents have been touched by the tuberculosis epidemic which hit the eastern Arctic in the 1950s. Many families lost parents, grandparents and children to TB. Many families lost track of those people. Large numbers of Inuit were sent for treatment to southern sanatoriums, all across southern Canada. One of those, which took TB patients from Baffin Island and Ungava in northern Quebec in the 1950s, was the Hamilton Mountain Sanatorium.

I am pleased to announce, Madam Speaker, that a dedicated group of northern and Hamilton residents, most notably, Mr. Chester Orzel, who for 24 years ran Woodland Cemetery in Hamilton, have developed plans for a monument to 36 Inuit who died there.

The city of Hamilton committed the funds estimated at about one-third of the total $50,000 cost of the monument, and perpetual care, on the understanding that their contribution would be matched by the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Department of Indian and Northern Affairs.

I will be asking the Minister of Health whether our government will be making a contribution towards this memorial to Inuit TB victims later today. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Dedication Of Monument To Inuit Who Died From Tb

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Return To Question 183-12(6): Status Of H&ss Committee's Recommendation

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, this is in response to a question asked by Mr. Dent on the 19th of October with regard to the status of the Health and Social Services' committee's recommendations.

Mr. Dent asked about the status of the Family Law Review report, with respect to the power of courts to make orders of exclusive possession of the family home for victims of violence. This recommendation was supported by the Department of Justice response in a report dated December 1993, and was distributed in the winter of 1994.

This specific recommendation will be incorporated as part of the

section of the proposed Family Law Act dealing with the possession of the family home. The department is currently in the process of drafting this act, and we expect to be able to table the bill for consultation purposes during the life of this government. Thank you.

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Return To Question 183-12(6): Status Of H&ss Committee's Recommendation

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Sorry, Mr. Kakfwi , did you have another return?

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Return To Question 183-12(6): Status Of H&ss Committee's Recommendation

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to Ministers' statements.

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Return To Question 183-12(6): Status Of H&ss Committee's Recommendation

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to return to Ministers' statements. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Proceed, Mr. Kakfwi .

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Minister's Statement 36-12(6): United Nations Day

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you. Madam Speaker, today is United Nations Day and the start of the fifth anniversary of the founding of the United Nations. In Ottawa today, the Prime Minister is participating in an official launch of the anniversary year by delivering a speech which will be the first in a series in the coming year by world leaders on their vision for the future of the United Nations.

The United Nations merged at the end of the Second World War as an institution primarily concerned with international peace and security. Today this organization comprises of 184 member countries, has a much broader mandate including health, education, the environment, international development, human rights and disarmament.

In the coming year, there will be an intensified effort by organizations and governments in Canada to get Canadians thinking about the United Nations. In May 1993, a Canadian committee for the 50th anniversary was struck by the United Nations Association in Canada and the Department of Foreign Affairs to help focus this effort, in the period between October 1994 and December 1995.

This committee has been working with federal, provincial, territorial and municipal governments and with the private sector to help deliver a series of high-profile activities over the course of the year which will help Canadians reflect on United Nations' achievements over the past 50 years and to get them thinking about ways to reform the United Nations. The committee is also encouraging the participation of community groups, including schools, youth organizations, associations, churches and women's and multicultural groups.

Madam Speaker, I believe that northerners will want to initiate or get involved in activities in the coming year, and consider the ways in which the United Nations has or can affect their lives in this part of the world, generally. Many aboriginal organizations, for example, have been active in international activities associated with the United Nations in areas such as health, environment, human rights and self-determination, and can share their experiences through the sorts of activities planned for the 50th anniversary year. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 36-12(6): United Nations Day

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Zoe .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Mahsi, Madam Speaker. I would like to recognize a former dental therapist who served in a number of communities across the Northwest Territories, Mrs. Brenda Flack who is in the gallery; her son, Nikia and husband Murray, are visiting Rae-Edzo and Yellowknife. I would like to welcome them to Yellowknife and to the chamber. Mahsi.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Baffin South , Mr. Pudlat .

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I want to introduce to the Assembly some visitors originally from my constituency. Constable Jimmy Akavak, his wife Mary Hanson Akavak, and daughters Naiomi, Emily and Julie. Constable Akavak whose father and grandfather were RCMP constables, has just been transferred to the Yellowknife RCMP detachment from Iqaluit. Welcome. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

I, too, would like to recognize Mr. and Mrs. Akavak, former constituents of mine. I would like to welcome them here. And also, Ms. Dolly Zoe, wife of the honourable Member for North Slave . Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake , Mr. Dent .

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Question 225-12(6): Mammography Screening Policy

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 463

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services. Madam Speaker, the Minister has said that the government is not planning to develop a mammography screening policy. A major reason for putting a policy in place is to ensure targets are set for reaching a high percentage of women who could benefit from such screening. My question is, is the Minister aware that seven provinces and the Yukon have, in the past few years, instituted organized screening programs?

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Thank you. Minister of Health , Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I am aware that some provincial jurisdictions and the Yukon have conducted screening in their areas. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Supplementary to the same Minister. Madam Speaker, starting in 1990, preventative health services division of the federal Department of Health, has held twice-yearly national workshops where participants discuss breast screening programs. The federal government even picked up the cost for participants' travel and accommodation.

Madam Speaker, since we're not participating in these discussions, can Members be assured by the Minister that we have more qualified people in our Department of Health than in other jurisdictions?

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Minister of Health , Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, since I'm unaware of the qualifications of other jurisdictions, I couldn't given an answer, so I don't know, Madam Speaker.

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Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, this government has missed another opportunity. The Department of Health did not send a representative or a representative team to the national forum on breast cancer. And I think it was particularly disturbing that nobody was sent to discuss prevention and screening. The sole NWT representative went in the survivor classification. My question, Madam Speaker, is has the Minister read the final report on the national forum on breast cancer?

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Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services, Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I will again say that mammography screening is offered every one to two years to women aged 50 to 59 in the Northwest Territories. According to information gathered from various publications and what other jurisdictions are doing, this is the only age group for which there is good and compelling scientific evidence that routine screening, coupled with clinical breast examination, can actually reduce mortality from 33 per cent from breast cancer. These guidelines have been endorsed by a growing number of authoritative bodies across the world. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Premier didn't answer whether or not she had read the final report of the national forum on breast cancer, which was my actual question. My final supplementary will be, why is this government not taking advantage of an opportunity to share the knowledge and experience of others across Canada, especially when it would not have cost anything for this

government to do so? Why have we failed to take advantage of an opportunity to learn something for nothing?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Health and Social Services, Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I'm not informed of every meeting and every course available in specific areas. Perhaps the department and the Stanton Yellowknife Hospital board have gained the information in other ways. Madam Speaker, I don't know if I can say there were missed opportunities. As for the report, I read several of them. I'm a female and I'm sort of in the danger category myself, so I read many publications about this topic. But, I don't know whether I have read that particular report or not.

Madam Speaker, I would provide extra information to the Member in areas where the department, the Stanton Hospital or the health system has gained knowledge, if it is not through the meeting

schedule that has been set up that he refers to. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Zoe .

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Question 226-12(6): Evaluation Of Affirmative Action Policy

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 464

Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to pose my question to the Minister of Personnel . I would like to ask the Minister of Personnel if there are any plans to undertake an evaluation of the affirmative action program.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Personnel , Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Minister who knows about this is Mr. Pollard . Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker, good afternoon. Madam Speaker, I've addressed this Assembly before about the issue of management of the public service. Obviously, the affirmative action policy plays a

part in that. We are presently looking at the development and the retention of our human resources. It is ironic that Mr. Zoe would ask me the question today, because today at 1:00 pm in the Explorer Hotel in the Melville Room, consultations started with aboriginal leaders in the Northwest Territories and our staff about the review of the affirmation action policy and how it should be conducted in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Zoe .

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My supplementary to the same Minister, I would like to ask, is the department going to involve an independent third party to do this evaluation? I understand from the comments that the Minister has made that they are consulting with aboriginal groups. I'm not too sure about the purpose of that. My question is, shouldn't an evaluation take place prior to consulting with aboriginal leaders?

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister responsible for Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, the purpose of the meeting today is to solicit from various people across the Northwest Territories some input into how they feel a review should be conducted, and what their feelings are about it. So, from those people, from the information we gather from them today, we will decide how to address the next step of the affirmation action policy review. I have an open mind, and I will take their suggestions today, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Supplementary, Madam Speaker. Could I ask the honourable Member to explain to the House the participants from the aboriginal groups who are participating this afternoon? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, I'll table the original invitation list and I'll also table information, as soon as I find out, about how many people showed up and made presentations, or mailed in presentations and submissions to us, later on this week. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Thank you. Final supplementary, Mr. Zoe .

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

Madam Speaker, I wonder if the Minister would entertain the idea of undertaking an independent evaluation of the affirmative action policy. If so, would it not be wise to use this round table group, that the Minister made reference to, to put together the terms of reference for the evaluation, to put out a call for proposals, to choose a reputable consulting firm to undertake this evaluation, and, with the results of this evaluation in hand, undertake a community consultation

process? I wonder if the Minister would entertain this idea? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, the focus today is on the format and scheduling of a consultative process in the Northwest Territories. I will await the recommendations made by the group today and then bring back to the House what the proposals are and how they should be handled, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Justice . Since corrections is no longer part of Social Services and is no longer a social program and, in light of the comments made last week by the Minister on community justice, is consideration being given, in the proposal to do more work locally, to privatizing some of these functions?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, there is some consideration being given to contracting for services, yes. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I guess people who break the law can be considered a renewable resource. I hope it will not be a growth industry, however. My question to the Minister is, if you are considering this, have your officials examined where privatizing of corrections has happened elsewhere in this country?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 465

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, when I said earlier that we are considering contracting for services, I was speaking specifically about the move we should make in the next year to building community-based correctional facilities that we think should be owned, but definitely staffed and managed by communities. So there would be no government employees staffing such a facility.

Aside from that, at this time, there is no serious consideration given to privatizing the territorial facilities that we have presently. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Since the Minister did talk about owning facilities, is it expected that any proponent to provide this service locally will have to come up with the capital funds to build that facility?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the thinking at this time is we think there are suitable conditions and environments in which to begin discussions with a community in a region that requires a community-based correctional facility. It would be built using territorial government capital money. We would also be interested in looking at groups providing the capital and perhaps leasing to us on a long-term basis. Thank you.

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

I would like the Minister to confirm then that the government will consider giving capital funds to a private organization that is in the business of doing business.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, I am not certain what the Member is suggesting. We can do what we practice presently. When we need a facility, we either build it ourselves or else we enter into a long-term lease with someone who has the capital and is willing to build it to our specifications. Those are the two options that we have at this time. Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Ballantyne .

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Question 228-12(6): Extra Revenues Generated By High Water Levels

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 465

Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a question for the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation . Madam Speaker, it seems that there was a large unanticipated surplus generated by the Snare power system because of high water levels from the time the GNWT took over the Power Corporation to the time of low-water levels in 1994. That surplus, I understand, is about $7 million and was used to keep down power costs throughout the territories. My question to the Minister is, did the Power Corporation inform the Minister

that the Snare system had generated an extra $7 million because of high water levels which were spent throughout the whole territories, at the same time they informed the Minister that they were going to try to recover the full $4.8 million in this year caused by low levels? They were going to try to recover that from the Snare system alone.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister responsible for the Power Corporation , Madam Premier .

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Page 466

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, there are three or four questions in that one question, so I will take it as notice. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 466

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Question 229-12(6): Contribution For Monument For Inuit Tb Victims

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 466

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to thank the honourable Members in this House who complimented me on my haircut. I am very grateful.

---Laughter

---Applause

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 466

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Health , Madam Premier .

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Page 466

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Thank you, Madam Speaker. As we did in St. Albert, when they had a monument put up there for the patients who were buried there, the Government of the Northwest Territories or the Department of Health will be making a contribution to this new monument the Member is referring to. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson , supplementary.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Health if she is willing to say how much the government would be prepared to contribute towards this monument? Thank you.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, the contribution is for $5,000.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 466

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am sure that contribution will be appreciated, Madam Speaker. But I would like to ask the Minister of Health , since the amount of $5,000, announced by the Minister, is considerably less than the one-third share of $16,500 the city of Hamilton is expecting from the GNWT, would the Minister be willing to use her good offices to encourage other organizations, including corporations to help make up the shortfall, so this monument can go ahead. Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, if the Member wants to talk about the issue and I can be of any help, I will be pleased to take whatever action is necessary. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for North Slave , Mr. Zoe .

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Question 230-12(6): Tb Outbreak In Rae-edzo

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 466

Henry Zoe

North Slave

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am glad my colleague from Iqaluit is speaking to a very important issue; that is the seriousness of TB. My question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services. I just learned, Madam Speaker, that we have again a TB outbreak in the community of Rae-Edzo. My question to the Minister is what her department and the Mackenzie regional health board are doing to combat this very serious disease. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Minister of Health , Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, on the issue of tuberculosis in Rae, the Mackenzie regional health staff are now insisting that all prescribed medicine be taken under observation for six to nine months. The whole population of the area is targeted for tuberculosis screening. As well, there are some issues in terms of the social conditions of these communities in trying to identify these areas which can be corrected. They are creating a presence and spreading of tuberculosis. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Henry Zoe

North Slave

I would like to ask the Minister if the department or the Mackenzie Regional Health Services are providing additional resources in the community of Rae-Edzo, in terms of human or monetary resources.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I will have to take that question as notice.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Natilikmiot , Mr. Ningark .

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Question 231-12(6): Plans For Gjoa Haven Elders' Facility

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 467

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister responsible for Health and Social Services, who is also the Premier of the government. Last week, Mr. Ng , my colleague from Kitikmeot, and I made a statement regarding the lack of facilities for elders in the Kitikmeot. In fact, there is no facility in the Kitikmeot region for elders. My question to the honourable Minister, Madam Speaker, is what is the honourable Minister planning in making the elders' home a reality for Gjoa Haven this year? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 467

The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, as a result of the issues in the Kitikmeot region, both myself and the honourable Minister responsible for Housing have met along with our officials to see what could be done in the short term and in the long term in addressing the issue of the facility at Gjoa Haven, as well as Cambridge Bay and Coppermine. We're trying to find out just how we can accomplish that. There will also be a meeting with the community of Gjoa Haven to further identify just exactly what the needs are in terms of the kind of housing requirements that community has.

So once we've addressed that, we'll try to make every effort to have a positive response to the needs, particularly in Gjoa Haven, then addressing Coppermine and Cambridge subsequently. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 467

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, supplementary to the same Minister. Is the honourable Minister aware of the fact that the community wants an elders' facility rather than home care? Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Madam Speaker, I'm well aware. The message has become loud and clear that the community is very much wanting to have a facility built in Gjoa Haven. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .

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Question 232-12(6): Approach Taken In 1995-96 O And M Budget Preparations

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 467

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Finance about O and M budget preparation for the 1995-96 O and M budget. Madam Speaker, I've heard -- and this may not be reliable, but -- that the Minister of Finance and his officials have taken the approach with departments of asking departments to identify across-the-board restraint measures for the 1995-96 budgets of their departments now under preparation. I would like to ask the Minister if this across-the-board cut approach is indeed being taken by the Minister in preparing the O and M budget for 1995-96. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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Page 467

John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, across-the-board cuts sort of indicate 10 per cent or five per cent right off the top. That wasn't the approach that FMB decided to take. The Financial Management Board decided to form envelope committees where Ministers and deputy ministers were meeting together. They made up different envelopes. There were three envelope committees, and each department was looked at and presentations were made with regard to areas that could be cut back, areas that could not be touched, et cetera.

So each of the budgets were combed in that fashion, and reports were made to the FMB and FMB took those particular reports and recommendations into consideration. The Financial Management Board then met in camera and discussed all the recommendations that were made and, eventually, last week a budget was arrived at, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. So, do I take it from the response of the Minister, Madam Speaker, that the across-the-board cuts departmentally that have been employed in the past to achieve financial restraint, that method will not be followed in the budget development process for 1995-96, and, instead, there's a more selective approach being taken for financial restraint? Is that how the new process is working, Madam Speaker? Thank you.

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Hay River

Madam Speaker, each envelope committee knew that they had to arrive at a particular percentage, but when it came down to department by department, the Member is correct; there was much more selective...It was done on the basis of an impact that a certain adjustment in budgets would make in a particular area. So it wasn't just a blanket across-the-board shotgun type of approach; it was done in a selective manner, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I think the Minister of Finance has undoubtedly heard the clear concern of the Standing Committee on Finance and of Members on this side of the House that the social issues are important. Just last Friday, Members of this House unanimously approved a motion to finally do something about the wages of shelter care workers. I would like to ask the Minister of Finance , since the budget development process is geared to identifying priorities in developing the coming year's budget, are social issues one of the priorities that the Minister of Finance will bear in mind in developing the budget for the 1995-96 O and M main estimates? Thank you.

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Hay River

Madam Speaker, as you speak to people across the Northwest Territories, priorities change, depending on the group, the environment, the location and the topic of the day. When Cabinet meets as the Financial Management Board they try to look at all those areas. So, we're cognizant of the suggestions made to us by ordinary Members, and the Standing Committee on Finance in particular, with regard to social programs. Yes, that was in our minds when we made our decisions, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Justice . It's regarding the change of name procedures. After the issue was raised during the last session, he recognized a need to simplify the procedure, making it easier for people to correct the spelling of their names or to change their names. I would like to ask the Minister what the status is of any changes that might be coming in the department towards that. Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the legislation for that particular item of business should be coming forward in the next while. There will be an announcement about it. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Supplementary. I would like to ask the Minister, will that legislative proposal that comes forward remove the requirement for having lawyers to perform change of names? Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Yes, Madam Speaker, the Member is aware that presently for change of name, it has to be done through application to the Supreme Court of the Northwest Territories. We are working to simplify the process so it can be done, perhaps regionally, perhaps even locally. Thank you.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Supplementary. I would like to ask the Minister then, will there be any fees attached to change of names and, if there are will they be minimal fees? Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Madam Speaker, the people who are largely responsible for signing names and changing names in the Northwest Territories, amongst aboriginal people at least in the western Arctic, are the Hudson Bay Company, the Anglican church and the Catholic church. These institutions took great liberties with people's names, last names. If anything, the fee should be paid by these people for correcting a lot of the names that have been changed frivolously over the last few generations.

It is the intent of the legislation, for the Member's information, to make it simple so that people in the small communities and in the outlying regions can have easy access to the process of changing their names, but also to make it cheaper; not only for this government, but for the applicant as well. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Finance . Madam Speaker, when this House was considering the reductions in the federal tobacco tax during last winter's budget session, the Minister of Finance recommended to the Legislature that the NWT should not reduce its tobacco tax and should retain its previous levels of taxation on tobacco because our government needed the revenue.

I would like to ask the Finance Minister -- since only the other day I received another flyer urging me to buy tax-free cigarettes from a southern location at a 1-800 number, no questions asked -- if he's been tracking tobacco tax revenues since those measures were accepted by this House, including a measure to collect NWT tobacco tax. Have our tobacco tax revenues kept up, as the Minister had hoped? Thank you.

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Yes, they have, Madam Speaker. Thank you.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Madam Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister if they've kept up with previous years' levels, does that mean more people are smoking or does it mean the same number of people are continuing to pay the territorial tax? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, I wish I could say to the House that less people are smoking in the Northwest Territories because, as you know, the Minister of Health of the day was also saying that high prices tend to stop people from smoking as much. But, it would appear that smoking is at the same level in the Northwest Territories as it was before. I think you are seeing the same kind of trend in the rest of Canada; that smoking is not on the decline as it was some years ago. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, when this issue was under discussion, some of my constituents who are merchants who sell tobacco predicted that, particularly in Iqaluit, northern tobacco sales would be eroded as smuggling and other means of purchasing cheap tobacco from Quebec and Ontario would be pursued by residents of my constituency, including food orders and direct mail campaigns.

The Minister said the tobacco tax revenues are holding. Has he had a chance to look at the trend in Iqaluit and the eastern Arctic which have ready access to cheap tobacco in Quebec; tax-free tobacco? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Madam Speaker, there have been illegal tobacco products detected in Iqaluit. I believe that matter will soon be before the courts. There was another incident in Norman Wells, where Alberta and ourselves discovered somebody who was bringing in tobacco, and that will go before the courts shortly. I'm not saying that there haven't been any incidents of smuggling in the Northwest Territories. There certainly have been two that we've been able to catch.

With regard to direct mail, we are discussing with Canada Post this week whether it is legal to put those flyers into mailboxes because they had told us they weren't going to do that. We will try to get that matter straightened away.

Two weeks ago at the Ministers of Finance meeting, the western Finance Ministers got together to discuss the issue of Manitoba who is sort of right on the front line, as Iqaluit is, with regard to being next to jurisdictions where there are lower tobacco taxes. Manitoba is not seeing any erosion of their market either, and they attribute that to the fact that most Canadians are honest people and they are not interested in smuggling. I think that is the case in the Northwest Territories as well, Madam Speaker.

Madam Speaker, I am aware of an incident in Iqaluit where there is a business person who believes they are seeing lower sales;

whereas, our records indicate the same, if not greater, supplies going to that particular merchant. We are trying to work out that problem, to see where this discrepancy is occurring. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Madam Speaker, I am going to send the Minister of Finance the flyer I got in my mailbox which gives a 1-800 number and offers sale prices on Canadian name brand

cigarettes. I would like to ask the Minister, if such information about such solicitations -- which makes no mention of paying territorial taxes -- is provided to the Minister, as I'm going to do today, does the Department of Finance have the capability of investigating these people and, in cooperation with whatever jurisdiction it is where this offer is coming from, preventing these people from selling directly to our residents without paying territorial tax? Will he act on such information? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I'm not sure what flyer Mr. Patterson has in his possession, but if it's the same one we had last week, then we're already acting upon it. But, I would like to get a copy of the flyer. I think it is on its way to me. Rest assured, the Department of Finance will do whatever it can to follow this issue up and to prevent it happening in th