Oral Questions, Health and Social Services — 15 June 1995 (12th Assembly, 7th Session, pp. 1341–1373)

1995-06-15, 12th Assembly 7th Session, pp. 1341–1373

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Oral Questions, Health and Social Services — 15 June 1995 (12th Assembly, 7th Session, pp. 1341–1373)

1995-06-15, 12th Assembly 7th Session, pp. 1341–1373

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of June 15th, 1995

This is page numbers 1341 - 1373 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was chairman .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Sahtu Residents Return Home

Family Law Legislation

Family Law Legislation

Dismissal Of Employees

Benefits Of NWT Mines

Appreciation To Her Worship Lorraine Doctor And Airline Companies

Disturbing Winnipeg Free Press

Article Re Inuit Art

NWT Tourism Industry And Outfitters

Election Of Chief And Band Council In Fort Simpson

Congratulating Graduates Of Samuel Hearne Secondary High School

Appreciation To Cabinet Ministers

Procedures Used To Dismiss Bird Dog Officer

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Results Of Arctic A Airport Negotiations

Northern Accord Negotiations

Reason For Failure To Comply With GNWT's Lay-off Procedures

Delivery Of Nwthc Services By District Office

Status Of Community Water Pumps For Fire Protection

Status Of Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act Implementation

Application Of NWT Safety Act To Bird Dog Officers

Status Of Birthing Centre For Baffin Region

Taloyoak Funding Request For Full-time Court Worker

Inclusion Of Ndilo In Five Year Capital Plan

Enforcement Date Of Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act

Residency Requirements For Qualifying Under Bip

Stricter Residency Requirements Under Bip

Adherence To Policies Re Lay-off Of GNWT Employees

Criteria For Seniors For Rent-free Housing Units

Reduction To Fort Smith's Town Boundaries

Written Question 32-12(7): Impact Of Regional Reorganization Of Canadian Heritage

Written Question 33-12(7): Resolutions Of The Nunavut Leaders' Summit On Education And Training

Return To Written Question 24-12(7): Firefighters Hired To Accompany Pilots

Return To Written Question 30-12(7): Purchase Of Services From Northern Municipal Governments

Item 9: Replies To Opening Address

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Legislative Assembly's Request For Senate Public Hearings On Bill C-68

Legislative Assembly's Request For Senate Public Hearings On Bill C-68

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Committee Report 11-12(7): Report On The Review Of Bill 25 - The Education ActBill 25: Education Act

To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 25

To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 25

To Amend Clause 1 Of Bill 25

To Add A New Clause 4.1 To Bill 25

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Hon. Samuel Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mrs. Thompson , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 1341

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Allooloo . Good afternoon. Orders of the day; item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 92-12(7): Sahtu Residents Return Home

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1341

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, residents of Fort Norman and Norman Wells are returning home.

---Applause

Although the forest fire which forced the evacuation continues to burn, it is not a threat to the communities at this time. The caterpillar tractors are completing a fireguard between the fire and the communities and the perimeter of the fire is being closely monitored. An infrared scanner is being used to find hot spots which must be dug up and watered down to be put out. Over the next 10 days, the fireguard will be completed and fire crews and air tankers will remain on site to help put out hot spots.

Now that the communities are no longer threatened, this will be my final statement on the Sahtu forest fire. Once again, I would like to thank the fire crews who continue their hard work, those people who helped and opened their homes to the evacuees, and the residents of Fort Norman and Norman Wells for their patience and cooperation. As the weather forecast continues to be for hot and dry conditions, I remind everyone, as the weekend approaches, to be careful when out on the land. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 92-12(7): Sahtu Residents Return Home

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1341

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Minister's Statement 93-12(7): Family Law Legislation

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1341

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, later today I will be tabling two proposed acts: the Child and Family Services Act and the Adoption Act. The draft legislation is based on recommendations made by Members of the family law review committee. This group recommended substantial changes to the Child Welfare Act, many of which are incorporated into the proposed acts.

Our current Child Welfare Act was drafted in the 1960s. It is outdated and no longer meets our needs. It is time to bring forward legislation that supports and strengthens family ties and enables communities to become more involved in child and family service matters. Tabling these documents now will enable further dialogue about family law and child welfare issues that are of major concern to all residents of the Northwest Territories.

Mr. Speaker, it is anticipated that this next phase of the consultation process will involve seeking ideas from young people, parents, helping agencies, aboriginal groups, women's groups and other interested persons. Finding a balance between the roles and responsibilities of government and of parents in raising and protecting children, especially children at risk, is a difficult task. There are bound to be some parts of these proposed acts that are controversial and it will not be possible for everybody to agree. The important thing, however, is to start exploring these issues and to involve the public in the discussion.

These legislative initiatives will be dealt with by the Members of the next Legislative Assembly. Meanwhile, public consultation that is needed to move towards a family-based, service-oriented child welfare system will continue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 93-12(7): Family Law Legislation

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1341

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Madam Premier . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .

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Minister's Statement 94-12(7): Family Law Legislation

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1341

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, later today it will be my pleasure to table two proposed acts in the area of family law reform: a proposed Children's Law Act and a proposed Family Law Act.

The tabling of these proposed acts is for the purpose of facilitating the next stage of public consultation in the process of family law reform, which began back in December of 1988, when the Ministers of Justice and Social Services commissioned an eight-member working group to review family law in the Northwest Territories and to make recommendations for change. The working group included representatives from a number of interested organizations. Their work resulted in the family law review report received in September, 1992.

The report of the working group has provided guidance to the Department of Justice in our work on legislative reform. The Department of Justice developed a discussion paper in response to the family law report and circulated the discussion paper to interest groups in 1994. It received positive comments.

Throughout the process, the departments of Justice and Health and Social Services have been coordinating their efforts. Following the completion of the last round of consultation, the departments proceeded to draft four new proposed acts. As Minister of Justice , I will be tabling two of these proposed acts and, as announced, the Minister of Health and Social Services will be tabling the other two.

The proposed Children's Law Act covers the legal status of children, the establishment of parentage, custody of and access to children, support for children, and guardianship of a child's estate. The proposed Family Law Act covers the division of family property, the rights of spouses in a family home, support for spouses and other dependants, and domestic contracts.

The Department of Justice, in cooperation with the Department of Health and Social Services, will be continuing its consultation, using these proposed acts as a foundation for discussion. Some of the areas of law are complex, and review of the proposed acts as a package will assist people in placing the proposals in context.

I am looking forward to receiving comments from the public so that the government can proceed with the development of legislation for consideration by the 13th Legislative Assembly. Mr. Speaker, family law reform is a huge undertaking for a government and the people of a province or territory. The tabling of the proposed acts today demonstrates that significant progress has been made by this Legislature. Thank you.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 94-12(7): Family Law Legislation

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1342

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Minister's Statement 95-12(7): Dismissal Of Employees

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1342

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I have reviewed the procedures relating to termination proceedings against the assistant manager of air operations and an air attack officer stationed in Fort Smith. I am satisfied the government has handled this matter properly and that there has been no political interference.

I understand the secretariat has now sent letters to both employees that officially advise them of the recommendation and allow them five days to respond. In addition, an investigation is being carried out by labour relations. Following a review of the employees' submissions and the completion of the investigation, this matter will be determined and the employees will be notified. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 95-12(7): Dismissal Of Employees

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 1342

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Whitford .

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Benefits Of NWT Mines

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1342

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Members will notice the items on their desk, and it is probably not necessary to remind everybody that June 12th to June 18th of this year is Mining Week. Since prospectors arrived here on their way to and from the Yukon gold rush -- at least in Yellowknife -- found rich gold samples, the toil and dreams related to mining in this region began.

CM&S, now Miramar Mine, poured it's first brick back in August of 1938 and the little town of Yellowknife has since grown to the point of crowding mining property lines. In 1986, Giant Mine poured it's 10,000th gold brick, one of the very few gold mines in the world to reach that level of production. Of course, the latest hope are the diamond fields that lay beyond the Canadian Shield in the Slave province. As the highest-priced commodity in the world, it is estimated that one high-yielding diamond region would have the economic potential to equal ten Yellowknife gold mines.

Pine Point was responsible for the construction of the third hydro plant in the Northwest Territories in the Taltson River. Great Bear Lake's Eldorado Mine initiated river shipping and Eldorado's need for fuel was instrumental in bringing the Norman Wells oil fields into current production. The Mackenzie Highway was constructed to reach the gold mining town of Yellowknife, long before it became a government centre. The territories' only rail road was built in 1964 to service Pine Point and it's world-class deposit of lead and zinc ore.

Mr. Speaker, I seek consent to continue.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1342

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife South is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Whitford .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1342

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker; thank you, colleagues. More recently, the MV Arctic, the world's only icebreaker ore-carrying ship was built to service the Nanisivik and Polaris Mines. The mining industry also offers significant employment opportunities for our aboriginal population. The Colomac Mine has already formed a comprehensive employment agreement with local communities, as did Echo

Bay's Lupin Mine.

On the other side of the coin, our modern mining must also respond to the new environmental standards that meet the expectations of our aboriginal communities and the people of the Northwest Territories government's regulations. Ongoing environmental assessments will monitor the impact of any change, such as caribou migration or air pollution. All things considered, we may all agree with the mining industry's claim that mining is helping to dig Canada out of debt. It certainly has contributed largely to our economy here in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1343

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .

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Appreciation To Her Worship Lorraine Doctor And Airline Companies

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1343

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, I made some comments about the events that led to the evacuation of the people of Fort Norman and then Norman Wells. I wanted to add to that statement today by also making mention of the mayor of Fort Norman, Lorraine Doctor. Some of you may have seen her on CBC National News last weekend. She has been working throughout the crisis in Fort Norman.

I want to mention how proud, not only myself, but many people from Fort Norman are of the way she carried out her work. It was stressful and she had very little sleep, but she carried out her work, in a very well-thought-out and determined manner. Throughout the whole process, she has kept her own counsel and has done an excellent job in showing how much she cares for her people and her community. I wanted to add that to the comments I made about the contributions that Chief Jonas Neyelle made to the whole operation, in spite of his health problems.

There should also be mention of the excellent job that the owners of North-Wright Air, Caroline and Warren Wright, performed. They contributed to the evacuation last Thursday of the people of Fort Norman from Norman Wells to Deline. I would also like to mention the owners of Ursus Aviation, Blair Jensen and Bea Jensen. Both airlines, along with Williams Arrow of Norman Wells put all their planes to work: Twin Otters, Islanders, Navahos, down to two-seaters, flying people as quickly as they could and as safely as they could over a six-hour operation.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Kakfwi , your time is up.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I seek consent to conclude.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Kakfwi .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1343

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I mention that because throughout my stay in Norman Wells from Thursday to Saturday, I must say that the most stressful time for me was during the period between 9:00 pm and 3:00 am when all of these little planes were shuttling the people of Fort Norman from Norman Wells to Deline. I found that the most stressful part of the operation because there were so many planes flying in and out, it was late and people were tired. I was very relieved when, at 3:00 am, the last plane load left and the planes stopped flying.

So, I wanted to thank again, the owners of the airlines, the pilots and the mechanics who made it all possible. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Thompson .

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Disturbing Winnipeg Free Press

Article Re Inuit Art

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1343

Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Tuesday, June 13th, an

article appeared in the Winnipeg Free Press on the perceived decline of Inuit art in the north. The individual responsible for these comments is Mr. George Swinton, a Winnipeg artist and a semi-retired professor. He argues that the pace of change over the past 50 years has been so swift that Inuit carving has suffered, as a result. Mr. Swinton also argues that the introduction of workshops and power tools has lead to the creation of nouveau Inuit art which is more detailed and naturalistic compared to the old, almost prehistoric look of the original art.

Mr. Speaker, I find this

article disturbing for several reasons. First, the Inuit culture will continue to evolve over time. This is a natural process that cannot be halted. Inuit cannot close themselves off from the rest of the world and live isolated in the past. I am very confident that our language and our culture is still strong and will continue to survive even in the rapidly-changing world in which we live.

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Article Re Inuit Art

Item 3: Members' Statements

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An Hon. Member

Hear! Hear!

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Article Re Inuit Art

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Secondly, Inuit should be able to take advantage of better and new technology to improve their craft. We have proven that we are very capable and adaptable people. Inuit have combined the traditional ways of the past with the modern techniques of today to provide the world with some of the most outstanding art available. His reference to Inuit art being "sleeker" is an insult to my people.

Mr. Speaker, the

article states that Mr. Swinton travelled to Arviat in May, "in an effort to help repair the declining quality of Inuit carving in the region." This type of paternalistic attitude towards Inuit is not welcome. Inuit do not need people from the south telling them how to carve and what to carve. I find the comments made in this

article to be inappropriate and an unwarranted attack on my people and their way of life. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Dent .

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NWT Tourism Industry And Outfitters

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1344

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to talk about one of the best renewable resources we have in the Northwest Territories, that being tourism. Mr. Speaker, according to Economic Development and Tourism figures, between May and September last summer, 48,000 tourists spent over $51 million in the Northwest Territories; and that doesn't include the cost of them coming here, that's

actually money that was spent while they were here in the north.

Further, Mr. Speaker, it's estimated that at least $10 million from tourists was left in the territories over the past winter, including the trips to see the northern lights taken by 1,100 people from Japan.

Mr. Speaker, there are approximately 230 NWT businesses which cater to visitors: hotels; beds and breakfasts; fishing lodges; and, one I would specifically like to talk about in more detail today, outfitters. Outfitters are significant contributors to the NWT economy. Most northerners are touched to some degree by the effects of outfitting businesses, because for every dollar of income paid directly to owners and employees of an outfitting business, another 20 cents is generated in the supplier and consumer industries.

In terms of employment, for every person week of direct employment in the caribou outfitting industry, for example, another three work days are generated in supplier and consumer industries.

Mr. Speaker, a lot of people don't know exactly what an outfitter is. An outfitter provides the complete hunting experience, supplying necessary equipment and employing licensed guides to accompany the hunter. Mr. Speaker, like most small businesses in the NWT, these are usually family operations that develop, market and deliver their NWT adventure products to hundreds of visitors each year. An outfitter must be a jack of all trades because they have to be a mechanic, a plumber, a carpenter, an electrician, a problem solver and sometimes a counsellor, just to name a few.

With the new gun control act, they may also have to employ psychiatrists to make sure that people who borrow the firearms from the company are of sound mind.

---Applause

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Dent .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and honourable Members. Mr. Speaker, an extensive financial investment and time commitment is required to run an outfitting business. An average day is generally about 16 hours long, and a seven-day week is needed for the duration of a camp which includes setting up and tearing down. Of course, the guides are the hardest workers of all in an outfitting business. All of them, Mr. Speaker, have a significant capital investment in the north, with the average being over $300,000 in their business.

So, Mr. Speaker, there is an awful lot of employment and spin-off employment provided through this business, and all of the revenue is export or new revenue. It's new money into the NWT, not merely recirculated government money, it is new money coming in from outside.

Mr. Speaker, it's important to remember that tourism serves as a bridge between the Northwest Territories and the rest of the world, because it helps promote us as a world-class destination. We cannot afford to lose economic benefits that the tourism industry brings to us, and we must remember than an investment in tourism is an investment in our future.

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An Hon. Member

Hear! Hear!

---Applause

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

It's an industry that must be recognized, nurtured and promoted.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to see a close working relationship between the Department of Economic Development and Tourism, the new Western Arctic Regional Tourism Authority and all tourism operators to promote and enhance tourism in our region. We need to have a long-term, comprehensive tourism marketing strategy and program for the western Arctic. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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NWT Tourism Industry And Outfitters

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1344

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. At this time I would like to recognize a visitor in the Speaker's gallery, Monsieur Pierre Marchal. He's the Consul-General of France and he's based in Edmonton. Also with him is his wife. Welcome.

---Applause

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Election Of Chief And Band Council In Fort Simpson

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1344

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) What I would like to say today is on our land, the Dene land, there was an election for the chief and band council. This is happening in a lot of communities. Whoever wants to be a chief, there is a lot of work for them. It's hard work to hold the office of chief. Being a chief is hard work. Every day they work for almost 24 hours. It is a lot of work and, on top of that, when there is a shortage of funding, it makes it even harder.

Also, being a chief, they work for the betterment of their people. This is what I would like to say.

The reason I am saying this is that yesterday in Fort Simpson there was an election for the chief and council. As a result, Herb Norwegian is the chief again. On the council is Mary Cazon, Cheryl Cli, Fred Deneyoua, Hazel Isiah, Loyal Letcher, Anita Villeneuve, and Jonas Antoine. There are the people who were elected during the treaty days. During the treaty days, there was also an election for chief and band council. There were two other people who ran for chief. I would also like to thank those two.

When we put our names forward for important positions like this, we are doing this for the betterment of our people. If they work well with the new chief, the whole community will benefit as a result. Also, the people who sat as chief and council in the past, I would like to say a big thanks to them. When we are in those positions, we are working for the betterment of our people. Today, with the different system of governments, when people are running for chief it is hard work. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Antoine . I would also like to say congratulations to the people who have been elected. (Translation ends)

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Koe .

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Congratulating Graduates Of Samuel Hearne Secondary High School

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to congratulate the 31 students who graduated from Samuel Hearne Secondary High School on Friday, June 9th. I was fortunate to make it to that ceremony and was very impressed by the numbers of graduates, but also the mix of graduates. They came from all the communities in the region and they were well dressed and a very impressive lot. The theme of that graduation ceremony was "reach out to the future."

In today's world, in the economy that we are working under and with all the disaster's of the world, I think these young people have a lot that they have to reach out for. The world is at their feet and they are young and energetic. I hope they take advantage of the opportunities that are before them. I would like to thank the parents and the staff of the high school and also Members of the Beaufort/Delta divisional board for their support and helping these kids get to where they are at.

I wish all the graduates well. Reach out high and far to the future. Mahsi.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Koe . Item 3, Member' statements. Mr. Patterson .

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Appreciation To Cabinet Ministers

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, at least once a session, I try to be positive and uplifting. I don't always like to rant and rave.

---Applause

So today I would like to talk about some good things that have happened...

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Bravo!

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

...and give credit where it is due. First of all, I would like to thank Ministers Arngna'naaq and Todd for the good work which has been done by Minister of Renewable Resources and Workers' Compensation Board officials to provide timely compensation for the families of the full-time hunters who died tragically in the waters of Frobisher Bay last fall.

---Applause

Since not every one of those hunters, like many of our constituents, had birth certificates or even marriage certificates, quite a lot of work had to be done to get their applications in order. Credit also goes to Anne Crawford and Maliiganik Tukisiiniakvik for their very hard work assisting the families. But I would like to commend the Ministers for the fact that interim payments have already been received by the families of the full-time hunters and they are well under way to getting the compensation package finalized.

Secondly, Mr. Speaker, I would like to give credit to Raymond Ningeocheak, who has overseen the implementation of the Nunavut Tunngavik hunters' support program this year with the assistance of his capable director Burt Dean and advice from the hunters' and trappers' organizations and the regional organizations throughout Nunavut. This program has received substantial one-time capital contributions from the GNWT and my assessment is they have done an excellent job.

They have recently approved a total of 260 applications to hunters in need of assistance throughout Nunavut and I know this will be a very important contribution to developing the renewable resource economy, which we all so much want to support in Nunavut.

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to thank the Honourable Nellie Cournoyea , Minister of Health and Social Services for the attention she gave to care givers in Iqaluit. Since I have some more good things to say, I would like to request consent to conclude my statement, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Iqaluit is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister for the attention she gave to a meeting with care givers in Iqaluit during her recent visit and also for the attention she and her officials gave to the meeting with the officials of the Baffin Treatment Centre. Also, they worked out some funding and implementation problems, which have now been solved, allowing the new Baffin Treatment Centre to start its work and take an in-take clients, successfully, this spring.

I would also like to commend the Minister and the Minister of Justice for finally accomplishing a project that has been long-awaited in this Legislature and that is the tabling of legislation in family law reform. I think this is something that was really expected in the previous Legislature and it never occurred. So it is very gratifying to me that, even though we are in the last few days of the 12th Assembly, that this important work has got to the point where the legislation has been tabled. I know this represents an enormous amount of work.

There have been lots of problems and challenges, but I think the Ministers and their officials deserve tremendous commendation for having taken it this far. I am confident that the next Assembly will act upon this long overdue need for reforming our family law.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, I would like to mention my gratitude to Mr. Morin and Cabinet colleagues for having, in principle, approved the negotiation of an office space contract for the Department of Renewable Resources for a building, the first phase of which is going up in Iqaluit this summer under the auspices of the Kakivak Association and Qikiqtaaluk Corporation. Cabinet support to this new aboriginal venture in my constituency is appreciated and it will be a big economic boon to the community to have this project going ahead this summer.

The last good thing I would like to comment on, Mr. Speaker, has to do with myself and...

---Applause

...but I want to express my gratitude to my colleagues on the Standing Committee on Finance for having elected me deputy chairman. That was gratifying for me and an honour which I appreciate. That is another good-news item I wish to celebrate with you today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Yea.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Patterson . Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Procedures Used To Dismiss Bird Dog Officer

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1346

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, prior to this session, the Minister responsible for fire management took the responsibility to ensure he terminated the manager of air operations, Mr. Rick Pederson. This position was responsible for the air attack officers, better known as Bird Dog officers.

Mr. Speaker, yesterday, in speaking to Mr. Pederson, he advised me that only yesterday he received his lay-off notice. Up until then, he was at home not knowing whether he was laid off, fired or his position deemed redundant. Mr. Pederson was given verbal notification on May 9th. Yesterday being June 14th, he was advised officially of his employment status with this government.

Mr. Speaker, first of all, I find it shameful that our own act we passed in this House, this government, up until yesterday, I believe, ignored. Mr. Speaker, today I will be tabling a letter which was sent to me on May 29th, and I quote from one paragraph in the letter:

"Rick Pederson is no longer with the fire management program. His services are not required. The decision to proceed without Mr. Pederson was made since I took responsibility for this program."

The letter was signed by Mr. Morin .

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Shame.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, this type of language in a letter tells me that there is blatant political interference on the part of the Minister filling his Cabinet responsibility. In addition, Mr. Speaker, for the Premier of the government to have full confidence in her Minister in the methods used in carrying out his responsibility was somewhat shameful. It's further seen by my constituents that these types of comments

are totally out of character for the Premier to conduct herself in this manner.

However, Mr. Speaker, in light of the proposed method the Premier announced in this House today, I am sure it will give some comfort to my constituents, her willingness to address this issue. Although she stated this investigation would only apply to the assistant manager of the air operation and air attack officers, I would encourage her to also review the method used for the manager of air operation's position, Mr. Pederson.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to continue with my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Thebacha is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and honourable colleagues. I have stated over the past couple of weeks the concern of Bird Dog operators and how this government is ignoring the safety aspect of

section 13 of the NWT Safety Act, particularly when it was this government who placed this requirement in the request for proposals for the heavy land-based and air tanker proposal which is critically needed to fight fires. I am pleased an investigation is being carried out by labour relations.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier is ultimately accountable for the actions of any of her Cabinet Ministers, and it's her responsibility to ensure our legislation is upheld. The Cabinet, as a whole, has a legal responsibility to uphold our laws we enact, that is why they are called "Ministers of the Crown."

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the Premier for her announcement of what course of action she's going to take. The Premier is displaying a professional attitude towards addressing this tense situation, and is more in line with her character. Mr. Speaker, if this government is serious in ensuring the fire operation runs smoothly, then it is important they take every measure to avoid a disaster this summer. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Return To Question 538-12(7): Completion Of Official Languages Act Regulations

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Koe on June 7th. Mr. Koe asked when the regulations for the Northwest Territories Official Languages Act will be completed.

The introduction of regulations on official languages must be considered carefully due to the complex and varied nature of each official language. For example, the provisions of the act grant varying status to the official languages, there are different literacy and fluency levels for each language, and oral tradition will play an important role in language development.

Mr. Speaker, once the official languages policy and guidelines are finalized, the GNWT will meet with the Languages Commissioner and the Department of Justice in order to discuss the needs for regulations under the Official Languages Act.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I have a further return to an oral question. The question was asked by Mr. Koe on June 7th. Mr. Koe asked when the official languages handbook will be ready for distribution.

The GNWT remains committed to the completion of the official languages policy and guidelines. In order to complete this task and given the changing fiscal reality of the GNWT, two rounds of consultation with GNWT departments, boards and agencies affected by the proposed official languages policy and guidelines were necessary.

The proposed official languages policy and guidelines are currently being translated.

Language groups will be consulted on the proposed official languages policy and guidelines throughout the summer. Following this consultation, the policy and guidelines will be finalized. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Morin , I understand you have several. Just go through them.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

(Microphone turned off)

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Just one? You have only one return? Okay.

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Return To Question 570-12(7): Bip Status Of Northern Municipalities

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Patterson on June 9, 1995; BIP status of northern municipalities.

Municipalities are not eligible to register as northern companies under the business incentive policy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Whitford .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Page 1347

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, colleagues. It's a pleasure to introduce to you a long-time friend and northern businessman, Mr. Joe McBryan. Mr. McBryan is the founder of Buffalo Airways, Buffalo Courier Services and now Buffalo Air Tanker Services.

As well, I would like to introduce to you Barb Paquin, executive director, NWT Literacy Council.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Whitford . Welcome to the Assembly. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Koe .

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Question 613-12(7): Results Of Arctic A Airport Negotiations

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Transportation . Over the past months, the Minister has been making various statements, culminating in his statement last week that the transfer of the Arctic A airports is going to take effect come July 1st, I believe. There is still some concern, though, with the operations of the airports.

Even though these transfers will take place and ownership and management will transfer from the federal Ministry of Transport to our government, it seems that the federal government is still making decisions on contracts and how the airports are being run; and these decisions are long term, in some cases. So I would like to ask the Minister, since he stated that in the negotiations he would try to ensure that services of these Arctic A airports are maintained at the current levels, what the results of the negotiations are and if there are any cutbacks proposed to the operations of these airports.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Transportation , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't believe, at this time, that there will be any significant cutbacks on the operations of the nine Arctic A airports. As I said earlier last week, we've negotiated a base funding of $24.5 million. We believe that that level of funding will be adequate to maintain the current services that we have in all of these airports, and maintain the positions and the jobs that relate to them. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi. Thank you for that information. I've read and heard several reports about cuts, not only in the north but across Canada, to the weather information services. Most of

the airports, especially in the south, have transferred to automated weather information services. I would like to ask the Minister if our airports will continue to be manned, or will they be cut and replaced by these automatic weather information services? I know there have been some cuts already, but will all of the airports be transferred to these automated services?

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, I think it is important to differentiate. The flight service stations still remain in the hands of Transport Canada. They will be looking after the operations and maintenance of the airports. I do recognize what my honourable colleague is saying. There is some talk about putting in automated systems, both in his area and in the Cambridge Bay area. That is being done in southern Canada at the present time.

We are under discussion with Transport Canada that the difference, if you want, between us and the rest of the country is that in most cases, but not in all cases, the primary mode of transportation into Arctic communities is by air and that some preference must be given to ensure that they are manned by people rather than by automated equipment. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you. There is also some concern about the role of firefighters in these airports. Some of the airports have manned teams on 24-hour standby at the airports. Are there going to be any cuts to these services at these airports?

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We recognize that right now the firefighting and safety aspects of airports are coming under review right across Canada. We are working hard, as I said earlier to try to maintain the current level of services and the jobs that relate to operating these nine Arctic A airports, but it's my understanding that the discussions, as they relate to fire safety and emergency measures, are still under debate with the different organizations in the aviation industry, and, at this time, I couldn't assure the honourable Member whether or not there will be cuts. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1348

Fred Koe

Inuvik

In response to one of my earlier questions, the Minister made a statement about the federal Ministry of Transportation are still going to have some responsibilities, and I am not really clear what they will be, but I would like to ask in terms of the aerological weather observation program.

Last week, I raised a question about the tenders which are being let, and I believe the tenders for this service are for two or three years, so I am wondering why the federal Ministry of Transport would be letting these long-term contracts if ownership and management are going to change.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Todd .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In discussions right across the country, not just in the territories, it is my understanding that in the flight services and safety components of airports, the federal ministry will still retain authority and responsibility for that. Even though we may be negotiating the nine airports here or a municipality in southern Canada may be negotiating to run their airport, the flight safety and services components of Transport Canada would remain with Transport Canada.

Therefore, if there are any contracts which come under their jurisdiction, then they have the mandate, responsibility and fiscal authority to meet these decisions that my honourable colleague alludes to. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ballantyne .

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Question 614-12(7): Northern Accord Negotiations

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1348

Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you. My question, Mr. Speaker, is to the Minister of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources . It is to do with northern accord negotiations.

We seem to be getting mixed messages. I know the Minister has been in discussions with aboriginal organizations and the federal government for many months. There seem to still be some differences of opinion as to whether or not a northern accord will go ahead. My concern is, if the northern accord doesn't go ahead or if the federal government, for whatever reason, decides that it won't proceed with a northern accord, do we have a fall-back position? So my question to the Minister is, is there is another mechanism besides the northern accord to protect northerners to make sure they get their share of benefits and opportunities if the northern accord doesn't go ahead?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1348

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources , Mr. Todd .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1348

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As my colleagues in this House know, I am the eternal optimist. I believe that even though this is a difficult task, we will be able to reach an agreement on the northern accord with the aboriginal groups in the territories, and if we reach an acceptable agreement, then we can move forward with the federal government.

That doesn't mean to say, as my colleague asked, that we are not looking at options. I am not a man of one option. We need to ensure that whatever takes place in this part of the country benefits the north first and everywhere else second. So we are looking, particularly in the diamond area, at other diamond-producing countries to see what mechanisms they have in place to ensure that they get their fair portion, if you want, of the benefits.

With respect to my department's action plan, we are looking at the possibility of doing some research with respect to the possibility of further processing and value-added opportunities that go with diamonds. We are looking at the sorting and valuing of diamonds and the impact that will have.

I think that one of the ones that my colleague is really looking for is that we are also, should all else fail, looking at policy options including taxation, taking royalties in kind, or the establishment of marketing boards.

However, Mr. Speaker, I do want to say that this is a second position that we are looking at right now. As I said earlier, I am an eternal optimist. I am confident that northerners will see the need to reach a compromise. We were still at the table, I understand, yesterday, and I am confident that by June 30th we will be able to move forward with a common position to get an accord in place that will ensure that all northerners benefit from the significant mineral and mining development that takes place in this country. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question 615-12(7): Reason For Failure To Comply With GNWT's Lay-off Procedures

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1349

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister responsible for fire management. Mr. Speaker, the procedures for lay-off of employees are fairly clearly laid out in the government's human resources manual, and earlier the Premier described the procedures which the government is supposed to follow. Can the Minister explain why these procedures were not followed in the lay-off of Rick Pederson, the manager of air operations? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1349

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Minister responsible for forest fire management, Mr. Morin .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1349

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding is that the procedures were followed, and I will look into it and take the question as notice. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1349

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The question is taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Patterson .

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Question 616-12(7): Delivery Of Nwthc Services By District Office

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1349

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation. Mr. Speaker, I think the Minister knows that I am concerned about how staff housing has been transferred to the corporation, and I think I have also made him aware of the fact that, recently, a new employee of the Housing Corporation responsible for staff housing had to go to the enormous expense of travelling from Iqaluit to Hall Beach, just to check two or three transferring teachers out of their staff houses. Mr.

Speaker, my question is, if the Minister is committed to allowing local housing authorities to deliver all the programs in communities, including staff housing, why are these services being delivered from the district office? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1349

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We plan on working with the local housing authorities and associations to ensure that they take care of all the staff housing needs.

At the present, the Housing Corporation has planned to go into every community and work with the local authorities to train them to take on those needs. It seems like a fairly straightforward task to check people in and out of staff housing, and they should be able to take on those as soon as possible.

They should be able to take on the other portions of it as soon as they get the proper training. That is going to happen. That responsibility will fall in the hands of local housing authorities. We will assist in giving them training and support. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Patterson .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm glad to hear that this is the way it will be done. But, I guess I would like to ask the Minister, wouldn't the most efficient process have been to train and support the local housing authorities to deliver the program on the ground in the communities, and then transfer the responsibility to the Housing Corporation, rather than transfer it to the district office first and then get the communities' training up and running afterwards? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That would have been good, if everything happened that way, yes, I agree with the Member. But what was happening in the communities is the communities were very involved in implementing the new rent scale, documenting people, getting training to implement the new rent scale, and also this transfer was happening at the same time. So, we have taken on the responsibility at the end of the fiscal year of the government and are catching up with the training. It should be all on par by the middle of July. That's the information I received. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Antoine .

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Question 617-12(7): Status Of Community Water Pumps For Fire Protection

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1350

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs. In the winter session, Mr. Speaker, I raised concerns about the protection of the communities from fire. My comment at that time was that people in the smaller communities had only a chemical tank as the means for fire protection. It's not adequate in the smaller communities, so I had suggested to the Minister that they should look at putting water pumps with enough hose to reach the furthest house in the communities for protection.

I repeat this because of the situation that we have had in Fort Norman and Norman Wells, where we just about lost these communities; and, there is a chance for brush fires in the communities, because it's so dry.

I would like to ask the Minister if his department looked at the suggestion that I made earlier this winter. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1350

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm not sure about the status of the honourable Member's suggestion, but I will get in touch with the department and get back to the Member on that. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Ms. Mike .

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Question 618-12(7): Status Of Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act Implementation

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1350

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week, I made a statement about custom adoption in Clyde River; that I'm currently working with 13 families in an attempt to get the birth certificates for those custom adopted children. Some are now old enough to enter the workplace. My question is for the Minister responsible for Health and Social Services . What is the status of the implementation of the Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1350

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Health and Social Services , Ms. Cournoyea .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1350

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, given the fact that to have the act implemented would take a bit of time, and recognizing that people want to move ahead and get the outstanding problem areas resolved, what we are doing in the short term is bringing together a couple of people presently in the department and giving them assignments so we can help these people along.

The implementation of the Aboriginal Custom Adoption Act Recognition will just take a little bit more time; however, we realize the urgency of some of these matters and I will be prepared to appoint two people who will take on the task in the interim, probably by Monday. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Ms. Mike .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On February 28, 1995, in response to Mr. Koe 's question, the Minister responsible informed this House that an information kit will have to be prepared for communities, that an orientation process was needed for an Adoption Commissioner and payment procedures will have to be finalized. What is the status of that information kit?

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Ms. Cournoyea .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, this work is presently being done. I will have to take the question as notice because I don't know right at the moment exactly where the kit is at. As I said, Mr. Speaker, it has taken a little longer than expected to get the work concluded. However, I will make a report on that and, in the meantime, we will try to accommodate some of the initiatives that are moving ahead of the process and the policy, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question 619-12(7): Application Of NWT Safety Act To Bird Dog Officers

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1350

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Good afternoon, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask a question of the Minister of Safety and Public Services . Mr. Speaker, last week, I questioned the Minister at great length, about the matter of legal jurisdiction. He indicated that this government did not have the responsibility under our Safety Act, to deal with the refusal of the Bird Dog officers to work. He indicated the responsibility lies under the Canada Labour Code.

Mr. Speaker, I want to indicate to the Minister that I sought a legal opinion on this, because I believe the responsibility lies with the Government of the Northwest Territories, under our Safety Act. I want to indicate to the Minister that, in as much as he feels this is covered not by the NWT Safety Act but by the Canada Labour Code, it is currently, indeed, under the NWT Safety Act that this responsibility does lie.

So, I want to ask the Minister whether or not he will review, once again, the NWT Safety Act to assure the air attack officers, who refused to work for this government, that they are, indeed, the responsibility of the Government of the Northwest Territories under the NWT Safety Act. I would like to ask the Minister, would he review this to determine whether this act applies to the Bird Dog officers? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1350

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Page 1350

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will certainly review the matter. In fact, I have given instructions already to my staff to get the Department of Justice to advise

them about the legal responsibility we have, and to ensure we have the proper

interpretation necessary for us to carry out our responsibility.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate that response. I would like to ask the Minister whether or not he will be able to provide the House with that response before we decide to prorogue. Thank you.

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Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm not certain, Mr. Speaker, if I will be able to do that; I will certainly advise all honourable Member of the situation once that information is provided to me, through written correspondence. If I receive it before then, I will hopefully be able to provide that information to the honourable Members.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can certainly advise the honourable Member that we will review the matter of the legal

interpretations that are given and their application. Certainly, if the matter is such that we have legal responsibility, then we will assume the responsibility accordingly, if that is the legal opinion that is provided to me and to the Cabinet. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Final supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to ask the Minister whether or not he is aware of the penalties under the act, which indicates that if the Government of the Northwest Territories discharges, suspends, disciplines; or threatens to discharge, suspend or discipline, otherwise discriminating or threatening to discriminate against air attack officers because that person has exercised his right to refuse to work under

section 13, the government may be found guilty of an offence under the act and liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $10,000. Is the Minister aware of that? Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'll certainly ensure that we are clear about the

interpretations given to the legislation, and I will advise my colleagues about its application and ensure that we are all certain about the legal obligations that we have under the legislation, as well. Thank you.

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Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Pudlat .

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Question 620-12(7): Status Of Birthing Centre For Baffin Region

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will direct this question to the Minister of Health and Social Services . Last winter when we had our session here, I requested a birthing centre for the Baffin region. I spoke on that as a Member this winter, and I asked whether this was going to be invested, to see if they could establish a working relationship with the Baffin Regional Health Board to establish a Baffin birthing centre so that the people in the Baffin region can exercise their cultural rights as Inuit. As well, in Quebec, I know that is how they have always used their culture.

How is this procedure going, this far, with the Baffin health board discussions? Are there any discussions going on between the government and the Baffin health board? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Health and Social Services , Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The issue of birthing centres is an ongoing discussion that we're having with all the health boards across the Northwest Territories. The Baffin health board is completing their needs assessment as it relates to a new hospital, and also taking into consideration what is going to be available at the community level in the health centres.

This has been an ongoing discussion, Mr. Speaker, and we have not neglected to bring to the attention of the Baffin health board the honourable Member's interest in having some kind of clear direction on birthing centres. Certainly, the department is in support of attempting to keep families closer to home or in the communities. I know that the evaluation of the Rankin Inlet Birthing Centre has shown that there's great value in this, and that the idea should be incorporated in the health needs studies that are presently taking place, not only in Baffin, but in other regional health centres. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ningark .

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Question 621-12(7): Taloyoak Funding Request For Full-time Court Worker

Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Justice . By this time, the Minister may have received a request for funding from the hamlet of Taloyoak. According to my understanding, Mr. Speaker, the hamlet of Taloyoak has a part-time court worker, and that community has requested funding to make that part-time court worker full time. We all know that the justice system is very complicated. The court system is also complicated. Even we, as seasoned politicians, find both to be very complicated.

I am sure the people in the small communities find them to be more complicated than we expect them to understand. Has the honourable Minister received a request from the hamlet of Taloyoak for funding? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Justice , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I will take the question as notice. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

The question has been taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ballantyne .

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Question 622-12(7): Inclusion Of Ndilo In Five Year Capital Plan

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the chairman of the Financial Management Board and the Finance Minister . Mr. Speaker, last year, for the first time in many years, the community of Ndilo in my constituency was left out of the five-year capital plan. Chiefs Sangris, Beaulieu and myself had a meeting with the Minister of Finance a couple of months ago. He was going to look at some ways to get Ndilo back in the plan. I would now like to ask if the Minister can confirm that Ndilo will be put back into the capital plan of the Northwest Territories.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, even though Ndilo is not on the capital plan in the books this year, the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs advises me that there is $100,000 set aside for them this year to make some upgrades on an access road. The Minister of MACA and myself have discussed this issue, and we will address the five-year capital plan and Ndilo's requirements as we go through the planning cycle in this upcoming budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Antoine .

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Question 623-12(7): Enforcement Date Of Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1352

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services regarding the Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act. Mr. Speaker, this act was passed in the House, and my constituents have approached me on this particular act wanting to know how they could go about using the custom adoption act so that an adoption would be recognized. There are people aware that such

an act is in place and they want to use it, but I understand that a lot of development has to take place with this act before it can be implemented.

The information I have is that the proclamation of the Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act is expected to occur on or before September 30, 1995. I would like to ask the Minister responsible if this proclamation will happen on or before September 30, 1995. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Health and Social Services , Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, just to give an outline on where we are, what the plans are and the target dates; we're now ready to establish a registry at headquarters complete that by June 30th. The target date to prepare an information kit for communities in the process of recruiting, appointment and training and for the payment of fees is by September 30, 1995. The target date for selection of the Adoption Commissioners is November 30, 1995. Training for Adoption Commissioners will take place by December 31st.

Mr. Speaker, as I indicated earlier, while we are going through the process and the steps that have to be taken, the department and I are trying to work out an interim measure where we can take care of some of the areas where people want quicker action and to try to look after the backlog that presently exists. So, although we have to go through the process and take these steps, we still feel we should assign a couple of people just to deal with trying to get some of the outstanding backlog completed.

Mr. Speaker, I hope we can stick with our targets and get the job done, and I'll make a further report on just how far along we are in our ability to meet all our targets and to have the act completely enforced, called and in action. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the answer. It further clarifies for me the status of the Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act. I think it's long overdue. We have debated it and passed it in the House, and this government is just trying to implement it.

It's good to hear that there might be an interim measure. It seems to me, Mr. Speaker, that it is not too certain whether or not the government will do this, and I would just like to ask the Minister if she could further clarify for the House exactly what this interim measure means, especially with the time frame? Thank you.

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Ms. Cournoyea .

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Page 1353

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, as I earlier indicated to the Member and Ms. Mike , the deputy minister and I are discussing with two very well-known workers within the system who have been involved with this type of work before to see if we can give them a special assignment to deal with these outstanding issues until we get the custom adoption act in place.

I hope, as I have also previously indicated, that I will give an update on just who they are as soon as possible, within the next week. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Patterson .

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CollectionNorthwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
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