Budget, Oral Questions, Health and Social Services — 24 May 1996 (13th Assembly, 3rd Session, pp. 619–646)

1996-05-24, 13th Assembly 3rd Session, pp. 619–646

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Budget, Oral Questions, Health and Social Services — 24 May 1996 (13th Assembly, 3rd Session, pp. 619–646)

1996-05-24, 13th Assembly 3rd Session, pp. 619–646

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of May 24th, 1996

This is page numbers 619 - 646 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was communities .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Minister Absent From The House

Community Empowerment

Air Attack Officer Trainees

Baffin Leaders' Summit In Iqaluit

New Process In The Legislature

Successful Cdsc Meeting

Hockey Game Between Western Caucus And Nunavut Caucus

Demonstration Of Kids On The Block

Appreciation To Family

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Marketing And Exporting Great Slave Lake Fish

Response To Concerns Re Water Quality In Fort Mcpherson

Status Of Revised Business Incentive Policy

Tuktoyaktuk Access Road To Gravel Source

Approval Of Health Boards' Budgets

Status Of Affirmative Action Policy Review

Devolution Of Fisheries And Oceans Responsibilities To GNWT

Amalgamation Of Health And Social Services In Regions

Air Attack Officer Trainees' Identities

Use Of Existing Human Resource Officers In Hiring Process

Cost Of Southern Treatment For Northerners

Plan For Devolving Staffing Functions

Briefing On Coordination Of Public Affairs

Bill 14: Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act, No. 3

Bill 15: Statute Revision Act

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Jim Antoine , Hon. Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Hon. Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Hon. Samuel Gargan , Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Hon. Manitok Thompson

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 619

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Rabesca . Before we get into the orders of the day, I would like to recognize in the gallery, Vital Manuel. Vital Manuel was born in Inuvik on December 17, 1973, to Denise and Thomas Manuel. They are his parents and now live in Fort Good Hope. Vital was raised in Fort Good Hope but attended school in Inuvik and Yellowknife, as well as his home town. He has been in a wheelchair all his life, but it hasn't slowed him down one bit.

Vital is very musical and often uses spoons to keep up with the music played on the fiddle by his father, Thomas. Vital now makes his home here in Yellowknife attending the Abe Miller Centre where he works with ceramics. As a courier and xeroxing important documents, he lives independently with a friend in his own apartment. Many of you have seen Vital in a wheelchair on the streets of Yellowknife riding up and down, greeting his friends and running errands.

During the winter months, he is often seen in 40 below weather riding his wheelchair to the Legislative Assembly, where he works for the MLAs three days a week. Vital has asked that Steven Kakfwi be recognized for the support and guidance and for the job he has provided to Vital.

He also wants to acknowledge his parents and family for their assistance and love throughout his long climb to independence. Vital has made a special cross for the Legislative Assembly. One day while visiting the Legislative Assembly, he asked the security guard if he could look into the House, when he noticed that there was no cross to guide the MLAs on behalf of the communities, so he promptly set to work to make this special gift. Vital is here with us today. Mahsi cho, Vital.

--- Applause

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 619

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

I would also like to thank Mr. Kakfwi . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 68-13(3): Minister Absent From The House

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 619

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to thank Vital for that very special gift and I will think of him when we see that hanging on the wall. Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable John Todd will be absent from the House today and part of Monday to attend meetings with NTI, NIC and the Baffin and Iqaluit chambers of commerce in Iqaluit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 68-13(3): Minister Absent From The House

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 619

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mrs. Thompson .

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Minister's Statement 69-13(3): Community Empowerment

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 619

Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank Vital for recognizing that there is a bigger power than the Legislative Assembly.

Mr. Speaker, the government's Agenda for Change names the community empowerment initiative as one of its priorities. This initiative is a turning point in the history of the Northwest Territories. Never before, have we had the opportunity to make such a difference in programs and services to people.

Mr. Speaker, I know that Members of this Assembly are interested in the opportunities which will become available for communities across the NWT, once we get community empowerment up and running; and, I know that community leaders and members of the general public have expressed an interest, as well, in finding out more about community empowerment.

I would like to follow up on the recent statistics made in this Assembly on community empowerment, by the Premier and the Minister of Finance , and provide Members with an update regarding this important initiative.

Communities used to look after their own affairs but, as programs and services became more complex, government made more and more decisions for the people. Communities have told us they want to take their rightful place; to make decisions for themselves. From the strengths of their past, they can truly build their futures.

Mr. Speaker, as there are no new resources to add to the government's budget, community empowerment, like all the government's priorities in the Agenda for Change, will use existing program resources.

Communities, however, will have the flexibility, through community empowerment, to direct money and other resources where they can do most good. We are trying to preserve as many dollars as possible but, when tough decisions have to be made, communities should make those decisions in partnership with the government.

Mr. Speaker, communities must expect more accountability and responsibility for community-based programs, services and infrastructure; but, all this cannot happen in every community overnight. We need to take the time to work with communities and jointly plan for success.

Mr. Speaker, community empowerment involves all GNWT departments. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs has been designated as the department to facilitate and coordinate the initiative between communities and all government departments, in all regions of the NWT. By the fall of this year, we will have in place a community empowerment action plan for communities to begin taking on greater responsibilities and authority over community infrastructure and the programs and services delivered locally.

The action plan will outline two key areas of empowerment: the GNWT programs and services available for communities to assume control of; and, a community development approach which will ensure support to communities to identify and work on their own needs and priorities.

Using locally-based planning initiatives, the community development approach will assist communities to identify those areas where they need to develop expertise, skills and capacities to carry out a wide range and mandate of program delivery. A community development team in every region will support communities to undertake assessments and to determine their needs based on local strengths and conditions.

Mr. Speaker, some communities, however, are at a stage now and are ready to take on additional responsibility and authority. Communities like Fort Liard and Aklavik are already looking to take steps to develop new opportunities and approaches through community empowerment. Other communities, like Pangnirtung and Baker Lake, are looking at the transfer of government positions and functions. We have to work in partnership with these and all communities to make sure they can be successful. Through community development, we will support communities as they identify their priorities, the resources they already have, and the resources that are available from government.

This government will make sure communities receive the training and support they require to manage their affairs.

Mr. Speaker, community empowerment is about creating opportunities for communities to take control of community based programs. Communities will have an opportunity to manage their own buildings and lands. They will have an opportunity to manage social assistance to make it work for their residents. Community empowerment means that communities can develop and manage their own community wellness programs.

Mr. Speaker, some communities, like Holman, Cape Dorset and Fort Good Hope, have already started to manage social assistance. Others have started training community people to deal with wellness issues. We need to celebrate these successes, and to encourage all communities to share in this empowered future.

A key part of community empowerment is information and monitoring. Some small communities may wish to work together, to pool their resources to make the best use of the dollars and people they have. We must support them in this. Other communities will face social challenges which may seem impossible. We must support them to meet these situations and conditions. The government is committed to partnership with the communities and people of the Northwest Territories. As part of the community development approach, government will disclose fully all resources now dedicated to local programs and services.

In addition, all information which will assist communities to identify their needs and priorities will be shared. These planning tools are being developed now and will be available to communities in the fall. MACA will be working with communities to support and coordinate regional leadership meetings and to provide the information communities will need to plan for empowerment.

Another key part of community empowerment is legislation to give communities accountability and responsibility for local programs and services. This government will develop legislation to support community empowerment. As well, changes to income support regulations to enable communities to take on income support programs are due this summer.

The new Education Act will come into force this summer and it will enable communities to assume greater control over local education programs. In the area of legislation, the government is prepared to move quickly to provide communities the room they need to manage their own affairs.

Mr. Speaker, though we are in the early stages and days of planning for community empowerment, I will be writing very soon to every community leader in the NWT to outline the opportunities available to them under community empowerment. I look forward to our future. This government is committed to working with communities to make their own decisions, set their own priorities and answer to their own residents. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--- Applause

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Minister's Statement 69-13(3): Community Empowerment

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 620

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .

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Minister's Statement 70-13(3): Air Attack Officer Trainees

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 620

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to congratulate the eight individuals who were recently hired by the Department of Renewable Resources to undertake training to become air attack officers. These seven men and one woman are all northerners and were

selected, after a lengthy evaluation process, from over 100 applicants.

An air attack officer flies with a pilot in a Bird Dog aircraft, and is responsible for controlling the air space around a forest fire and ensuring that air tankers are used effectively and safely on a fire. If there is no fire boss on the ground, the air attack officer is in charge of the fire. When there is a fire boss, the air attack officer coordinates the use of the air tankers, based on the plan developed by the fire boss.

Mr. Speaker, the job of an air attack officer can be described as difficult, challenging and, at times, exciting. It takes very special people who have a lot of on-the-ground experience fighting forest fires and are willing to undertake a lot of intense training. The eight successful candidates will receive about four weeks of classroom training in Fort Smith, before being assigned to work with experienced air attack officers over the summer. Over the winter, they will take further training in resource and forest fire management.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Renewable Resources is committed to training young northerners for careers in resource management and we are pleased to have, as partners for this venture, the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and Northwestern Air Lease Limited, of Fort Smith. Mahsi cho.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 70-13(3): Air Attack Officer Trainees

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 621

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Kakfwi . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Evaloarjuk .

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Baffin Leaders' Summit In Iqaluit

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 621

Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

We will also receive a presentation from the Honourable Manitok Thompson and we will have a discussion on community empowerment. I would like to thank the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , for allowing his regional staff to prepare a presentation on the Baffin economy. I do believe this will greatly assist us to guide the discussion towards a common Baffin economic strategy.

We are also grateful to the community of Kimmirut and Mayor Kowisa Arlooktoo and his council for agreeing to host this important meeting. Mr. Speaker, I will be pleased to report the results of this important meeting to the Assembly at the next opportunity, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Baffin Leaders' Summit In Iqaluit

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 621

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Evaloarjuk . Mr. Krutko .

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New Process In The Legislature

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 621

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today is regarding why we are here. We have been elected to represent the people and be the voice for the people. I believe that it is our duty, as MLAs and as Cabinet, to listen to what those people are saying and to speak for those people who cannot speak for themselves. I have been speaking to a lot of issues lately. I have been asking a lot of questions. I believe it is my duty as an MLA to ask those questions and get those answers for those people who are probably asking themselves the same questions.

I feel that there are rules in this House we have to follow, yes. But there is also a fundamental purpose for this House and that is to debate laws, regulations, budgets and also to make decisions on how our government is going to operate. Yet, there are times when you ask question after question, wait for answers and the answers you get aren't the ones you want. I think it is important to realize the questions that you ask may contain information that someone else may be looking for. They may not get to see you on TV, but people do read Hansard.

People want to know what goes on in this House; what questions have been asked with regard to water problems and the budget problems. They see one area getting something and another area gets nothing. They want to know what the process of government is.

We, as Members of this House, should not be stuck in the mould of having to rush through everything and make a decision like let's get out of here by the end of the month because I have other plans. People want to do other things, travel to other regions and meet with constituents. Some of us don't have the privilege of living in Yellowknife or the surrounding ridings, where you have the opportunity to run home to your riding and come back the next night. I seek unanimous consent to conclude.

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New Process In The Legislature

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 621

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Krutko .

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New Process In The Legislature

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 621

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think one thing people have to realize is we have established a new system of doing business with government and new committee structures. I believe the move is a step in order to assist Cabinet and Members to work closer together. With regard to certain committees that I don't sit on, I don't have the privilege of having a say with regard to my riding and if anything will be changed, until it comes to this House in the form of a budget. That is the time we have to ask those questions. We have to go through the budget and ask why there is money here and there.

In my case, I am finding out that a lot of the projects in my constituency are for the year 1999 to the year 2001. We are talking about a new form of government in the West. We are also talking about today's problems that I have to raise in this House; for example, the water problems in Fort McPherson. I ask questions and I

may be irritating Members because I am asking so many questions. I ask for those people who are probably asking themselves the same question. Why haven't we got this or that?

With that, I would like for all Members to realize that we are here for a purpose. Asking questions is for the benefit of the people we represent. Thank you.

---Applause

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New Process In The Legislature

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .

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Successful Cdsc Meeting

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Qujannamiik, Uqaqtii. Last night, I and other Members of the Western Caucus attended the Constitutional Development Steering Committee. I thought perhaps, because there is a possibility of the Constitutional Development Steering Committee being put on hold for a period of time, that we would have be there for a half an hour. However, we had a very encouraging meeting with the Members and it was decided and resolved in the end that the aboriginal summit would work with the Western Caucus Members to develop a constitution for the West.

Then, once the draft is done, it would be submitted back to the Constitutional Development Steering Committee, of which other Members are the tax-based communities and the women's organizations of the Territories. At a later date, it will be put before the public for ratification. I was quite encouraged by this meeting and after many years of efforts to try to get going on the development of a constitution, we are finally able to set it on the road to being done. I congratulate the Members of the Western Caucus and the Members from the aboriginal summit for the agreement reached last night.

I look forward to participating in the development of this constitution. We do, unfortunately, have a time frame crunch. But I think we can deal with that and as time goes, hopefully we will all brief our constituents on this draft constitution. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Successful Cdsc Meeting

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas .

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Hockey Game Between Western Caucus And Nunavut Caucus

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (Translation ends) Last night, I was watching hockey and I thought I would tell all the Members what it was like. It is Friday, so I am going to tell a joke.

Last night, I was watching a hockey game between the Western Caucus and Nunavut Caucus. In the third period, it was getting interesting. Jake "the Snake" Ootes had a hat trick; Vince "Macho Man' Steen was defending very well. Those policing our team: John 'Charles Bronson" Ningark was policing very well on our team. In the Western Caucus, Mr. "Sunshine' Henry was policing as well.

Mr. "Mark Twain" Evaloarjuk was the head referee with his two assistants: Mr. "Pink Floyd' Roland on the right side and "the Curley" David Krutko on the left side.

--- Laughter

There were also arguments between Ed "Forrest Gump" Picco...

--- Laughter

... and John "the Axe" Todd. They were arguing so Mr. "Mark Twain" Evaloarjuk was able to break the fight and put them in the penalty box for two minutes.

Mr. "Cheese Burger" Miltenberger was checked by Tommy "T. Hall" Enuaraq at the corner and he had to be carried out to the lockerroom. Sam G. also had two minutes for checking. Mr. "Oh" Donnie Morin was coaching the West and Mr. Goo "Pilook" Arlooktoo was coaching the East. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--- Applause

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Hockey Game Between Western Caucus And Nunavut Caucus

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Barnabas . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Henry .

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Demonstration Of Kids On The Block

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Uqaqtii, at 2:00 p.m., the Council for Disabled Persons will be making a presentation in the great hall. This will be a demonstration of Kids on the Block, not to be confused with New Kids on the Block, performed by two students from St. Patrick High School in Yellowknife. I would urge all Members to take some time at 2:00 to come to the great hall and see these students perform.

The purpose of the program, Mr. Speaker, is an awareness program that models positive attitudes and behaviours towards people with disabilities. The goal of the program is to have the audience see people not disabilities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Demonstration Of Kids On The Block

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Henry . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Roland .

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Appreciation To Family

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It seems at times, especially as days go by, that we may feel that it has been a long sitting. We have sat late a number of days. We go home late in the evening and rise early to get to the grind once more. I feel it has been a long spell and am looking forward to getting home. At the same time, we think it has been long here but we have our families back home who only get to see us, hear us on the radio or when they watch the program late at night. They must be feeling it is a long time as well.

I would just like to say to my children and wife back home, thank you for standing by me in these times.

--- Applause

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Appreciation To Family

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 622

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Steen .

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Appreciation To Family

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 623

Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think I will follow the example of Mr. Roland and thank my family and my wife for having to stay home instead of being out on the land, like I know she would like to be, and having to make sacrifices in order to proceed with some progress and betterment for our people. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to listen to the Minister of Renewable Resources saying we can now hunt in the spring without worrying about the government coming down on us. I am sure the people back home are taking full advantage of that. I would like to be with them; unfortunately, I can't. I wish them good hunting.

--- Applause

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Appreciation To Family

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 623

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Steen . Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Arlooktoo .

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Further Return To Question 195-13(3): Application Of Negotiated Contract Policy Outside Nunavut Area

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 623

Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Steen on May 8th regarding application of negotiated contract policy outside Nunavut area.

In 1994-95, the Government of the Northwest Territories drafted a government-wide policy on negotiated contracts. However, Cabinet review of this policy was put on hold until consultation could take place with Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated regarding the government's obligations under

article 24 of the Nunavut final agreement. Now that those consultations have been completed, the government policy on negotiated contracts will be completed and provided to Cabinet for review.

The negotiated contracts policy will reflect the requirements of all the settlement agreements in both East and West. It will also reflect my commitment to develop options to enhance aboriginal and local access to economic opportunity, not only in the Nunavut area, but throughout the Northwest Territories.

However, at the present time, and until those policies are complete, the 21-day notice period applies only to negotiated contracts for activity in the Nunavut settlement area. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize some constituents from Cambridge Bay: Joe and Susie Koaha; their daughter, Laurie; their grandson, Etegik; and, his adopted mother, Christianne Clarke.

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Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 304-13(3): Marketing And Exporting Great Slave Lake Fish

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday in my Member's statement, I raised the issue of the Great Slave Lake fishery and the management and marketing of that resource. This industry is very important to the community I represent and I am most interested in seeing that this northern resource, as any other, derive the absolute maximum benefits possible.

When you consider how few species the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation accepts, what little processing takes place in Hay River and how little product and marketing development has occurred in the recent past, perhaps it is time to assess whether the monopoly for the purchase and export is still an effective agency. My question to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism : Is the present system of marketing and exporting Great Slave Lake fish the most beneficial means? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, as a government, we will be taking a look at that and considering it. We will be responding to it in due course. Thank you.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand that some work has been done in this area in the past. When was the last time the issue of the Great Slave Lake fishery was comprehensively examined? Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I understand that a number of years ago, there was a committee that was set up to review commercial fishing of Great Slave Lake, and marketing. The MLA for Hay River at the time, Mr. Pollard, and the MLA for Tu Nedhe, Mr. Morin , and Mr. Fabian from the Hay River Reserve were on that committee. That was about five or six years ago.

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to make it very clear that, in asking these questions, I am asking them as questions. I am not making a statement. I think it is astute to examine these things once in a while. I would also like to ask the Minister, would he concur that possibly this is a function that could be more effectively handled by breaking the monopoly of Freshwater and allowing large-volume operators the option of marketing their own product and perhaps providing support to the smaller operators through some type of cooperative which would be managed by this government, as opposed to a federally legislated organization. Thank you.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the government will review that suggestion as it has in the past and respond to the Member. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 624

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Public Works with regard to the water treatment plant in Fort McPherson. I asked a question on March 14th with regard to the status of that plant and what the implications are, because at the present time there still seems to be a problem with the quality of water. I have been told that they're using about six different chemicals in the water system to try to resolve it. Because of the number of different chemicals and also the concern about cancer, could the Minister tell me when he would be reporting back to me on this since I raised it on March 14th?

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, 1, as Minister of Public Works, and the Minister of MACA am taking this issue very seriously. We have brought this up at Cabinet; in fact, this morning. As I have said before, we are sending staff to Fort McPherson and we will be making arrangements to sit down with the Member and work closely with him to see how we can deal with the issue.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister for that. I also see this as a critical priority in which we should have done something on this

when it originally occurred. I do feel that we have to get in there as soon as possible and I suggest to him we go there once the House has completed sitting. But, in the meantime, we need to continue to work on this.

I feel that we do have to look at the other issue: the health aspect; the long-term implication that possible health problems may cause from all these chemicals that are in the system. I have been told there are six different chemicals they've been adding to the system to try to resolve this problem. They didn't have to do that before and that is another concern that has been raised since this problem has occurred. Can you also look at the different chemical components that they have been putting into the water system? Thank you.

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, the area of chemistry is not my speciality, but I am informed that, as it stands now, the different additives they are putting into the water through the treatment process is allowing the water to meet the Canadian drinking water standards. However, I understand that there is great concern about the water colour and odour, which I completely understand and which I agree we must deal with as soon as we can,

With that, I will commit again that I will work with the Member. I do have other commitments, as the Minister of MACA for travel that we made some time ago, immediately after session. But we will send our staff up in the interim and hope that we can deal with this issue as soon as possible.

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Samuel Gargan

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If the Minister cannot make it at this time, can he have one of his senior people travel with me to Fort McPherson? Your deputy minister may be able to travel with me to Fort McPherson to deal with this, because I would like to have this dealt with at a senior level so something will get done and so that we don't just look at it as another study.

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, I believe I made that commitment before, that we will send senior officials from either Public Works or MACA, or both. As I said before, we're taking it seriously. There is a question of the cost. I am informed that a conservative estimate is another $8 million for a water treatment facility that would deal with the problem correctly, because of the lack of suitable sources close to the community. So there are a whole range of

issues that we need to deal with and, yes, we will send senior officials with the Member to his community.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Economic Development and it's in relation to the business incentive policy. I've been hearing, for some time now, complaints from people who are involved in business. They're saying that implementing the policy is too complex, that it's not working properly and that southern-based companies are finding ways to get around the policy. There was a review done quite a while ago and there has even been some sort of report. I would like to know when the new business incentive policy will be coming out.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I understand the policy is still being reviewed internally, consultation has been conducted by the previous Minister and, as the new Minister responsible for that policy, I have yet to be fully briefed on all the intricate elements and the history of that policy. I understand the target is to have a new policy by September or October. Thank you.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister tell us whether the policy has been developed to such an extent that you can tell whether the new policy will save this government some money?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the policy is going to be reviewed and changes may be made to it, possibly within the new few months. For instance, the advisory panel that the Premier has set up recently will be asked to advise the Premier on the merits and the pros and cons of that policy. We will know later, over the course of the summer, how changes, if any are made, will improve the performance of that policy with the goals that were set out for it in the first instance. Thank you.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Most of the MLAs will be gone from Yellowknife until October or some time during then, whenever the next session starts. How will the rest of the ordinary MLAs be involved in this policy? Are we going to be given the opportunity to give advice and final recommendations and perhaps even approval of this policy?

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Mr. Speaker, we can make a commitment to the Member that the appropriate committee will be advised of the developments of the new policy and input will be sought from the appropriate committees to advise the government on changes and concerns that may be brought forward by the Members through the committee. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister be seeking approval from the Caucus as a whole before implementing the policy?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, it would be a policy of Cabinet. As I understand it, we will be consulting with the appropriate committees before proceeding to finalize the policy. However, we will, as a Cabinet, decide on the final form of the policy, knowing very well that if it is not well thought out and not thoroughly supported, we will have difficulty when session resumes if we adopt a policy before that. So we will gauge the support that we have and how well we can defend the policy and whatever changes we institute between now and fall, and make our decisions accordingly. Thank you.

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Question 307-13(3): Tuktoyaktuk Access Road To Gravel Source

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 625

Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. Antoine . Mr. Speaker, my community has written to the Minister of Transportation requesting that Department of Transportation meet with them to consider construction of an access road to a gravel source nine miles south of our community. Mr. Speaker, gravel in my community is worth anywhere from $40 to $60 a metre and the community is looking at any options available to bring this price down so people can afford to develop lots and land

Mr. Speaker, in the last week, we have been discussing access roads and the purpose of these access roads. I believe the Minister did state in Committee of the Whole that access roads were to serve all purposes; including fishing, hunting and other recreational activities that the communities may wish to pursue. Mr. Speaker, this particular road would serve a very good purpose. I would like to ask the Minister if he would reconsider this letter he has written to the community and, perhaps in conjunction with MACA, meet with the community to see whether this access road could be considered in future budgets. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, I will reconsider the letter that I have written to the community that Mr. Steen is referring to. Along with my colleague, the Honourable Manitok Thompson , we will try to resolve this issue. I think it's a very legitimate request. I think if we could all work together, perhaps we could resolve this issue. Thank you.

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Question 308-13(3): Approval Of Health Boards' Budgets

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 626

Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question will be directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . During the budget process, when we went through the business plans, when it came to the budgets of the health boards, the Social Programs committee sent a message back saying that the reductions should be made by the health boards. I would like to ask the Minister if the health board budgets have been adopted. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the health board budgets have been adopted. With respect to some of the reduction options that were put forward by the health and hospital boards, a large majority of the ones that were acceptable have been given consent to go forward with, but there are a few other matters that still require some additional information. Generally speaking, a large percentage of the reduction options have been approved, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister also give us some more information? Are the targets going to be met by their proposed budget?

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Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I certainly hope so. Thank you.

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Question 309-13(3): Status Of Affirmative Action Policy Review

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 626

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On several occasions, I've asked when we could expect the affirmative action policy review to be tabled in the House. The reason I am persisting in this is that this is continuing to be of concern to several of my constituents who have written me letters on this. It is also a policy that is still in effect when it comes to hiring students.

It was certainly a big issue during last September's election campaign, and a lot of us spoke on the subject, stating that we would take this up as an item to be discussed and to try and resolve and come up with some solutions to the affirmative action policy. I wonder if the Premier could tell me again what is the status of the policy and when may we expect to have the policy tabled in the House.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be happy to make a copy of that policy available to any Member who requests it, As far as I understand it, the policy was reviewed by the Minister responsible last year. It is in effect and is still in effect as is. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand that public hearings were held last fall and a report was to be issued on those public hearings. That report was completed and then submitted for review by the Minister. The Minister, in turn, was looking at assessing the report and was then going to table it in this House. I wonder if the Premier could clarify when we may expect that to be tabled in the House.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll take that question as notice and get an answer back to the Member on Monday. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The question has been taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 310-13(3): Devolution Of Fisheries And Oceans Responsibilities To GNWT

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 627

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question again is with respect to the fishing industry. About 20 years ago, I worked for the federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans in Hay River and at that time, I believe, besides myself, there were 13 people on staff there. The functions they were responsible for were management, conservation protection and inspection. It's my understanding that today I personally know of only one person involved in each of those functions. I personally know of three people who work for the Department of Fisheries and Oceans in Hay River; there may possibly be more.

I guess what that indicates is that the federal government has pulled back quite considerably in their role of overseeing the fishing in the Northwest Territories.

Over the years, they have acquired a tremendous amount of infrastructure in Hay River: docks, land, buildings, equipment, boats, bombardiers. I understand that there is talk of Fisheries and Oceans being amalgamated with the Canadian Coastguard. My question to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism is has the territorial government considered taking over the role of the federal Fisheries and Oceans, like so many other federal departments that have been devolved to the territorial level of government. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Economic Development and Tourism , Mr. Premier .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That falls under the responsibility of devolution of powers from the federal government to this government. Two terms ago, we had almost reached a deal with the federal government to take over the responsibilities of Fisheries and Oceans in the Northwest Territories. While we were getting closer to the end of that deal, the federal government continued to pull back dollars. In the end, they would have liked to have transferred the responsibility, but transfer no dollars with it.

So at that time we backed out of that deal, but it is something that will be back on the table again that we will look at. We, as a government, are a firm believer that northerners should control the northern resources. That way, we will have the people's issues in the forefront on all issues to do with fishing in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Question 311-13(3): Amalgamation Of Health And Social Services In Regions

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 627

Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . We've heard about the amalgamation process of Health and Social Services. It has been done at headquarters. I would like to know from the Minister how far along the process is in the regional centres. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, different regions are at different stages in the process, but the overall intent with the consolidation of Health and Social Services is to have it done by the end of this fiscal year, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 627

James Rabesca

North Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for Renewable Resources regarding the air attack training announcement that he made this morning. Of the eight individuals who were originally hired by the department, I was wondering what communities they were from, how many years of experience each person had, their names and the communities they represent.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Kakfwi . That was two questions.

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, it's the appeal process that prevents me from sharing the names of the successful candidates; their names and their home towns. It's because of the appeal process that we are not, at this time, able to share the names of the successful candidates with the Members. Once the appeal process period has lapsed and all appeals have been dealt with, then we will be in a position to share the names with the Members and the public. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 627

Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister responsible for Personnel. Some time ago, I asked a question regarding the amalgamation of Personnel into other areas and time ran out, so I thought I would finish what I had started. Now that the staffing function has been removed from the Personnel Secretariat, I would like to ask

the Minister how government departments will hire new employees. Will they be using existing resources to manage their staffing needs?

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Mr. Premier .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

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Samuel Gargan

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Do all departments have some sort of human resources officer in place, or are there some smaller departments that may not have such a position in the organizational charts?

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's my understanding that the majority of departments now have those positions in place to do the hiring, and there is some training that Personnel is doing with some other departments to bring them all up to par. Hopefully, in the very near future they will be all up to par. Thank you.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Do all departments have staff responsible for human resources in all of their regional offices?

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It must be the hair, I guess.

---Laughter

My question is to my colleague and partner in crime, Mr. Ng , Minister of Social Services . I have asked for information with regard to the costs that are presently being charged to send people to southern institutions and facilities. I would like to know the cost to send someone through a program such as Bellwood or to other institutions in southern Canada.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as soon as possible. It's my understanding that the information has been provided but, if it hasn't, I'll make sure the honourable Member gets another copy. Thank you.

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Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, The information I had asked for and have not received is with regard to southern institutions; programs that we presently acquire through Social Services and Health in Alberta, Ontario or southern institutions, so we can have an idea what the costs are to send people to these southern programs.

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Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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How soon can I acquire that information? Will you have it to me before we leave the House next week?

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Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I'll have it over to the Member before the House breaks. Thank you.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With regard to the amalgamation of the Personnel Secretariat into other areas, is there an overall plan in place to have these Personnel functions done in other areas?

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Mr. Premier .

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Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister for being so brief and saving a lot of time for us to ask more questions. I would like to know when the ordinary MLAs are going to see this overall plan, because we've heard lots about it but we still haven't seen it.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The plan to amalgamate the Personnel Secretariat into the Department of the Executive; the principles of that plan are recruitment will be the responsibility of the departments, boards and agencies of the Government of the Northwest Territories. Recruitment will be carried out in accordance with established guidelines, procedures and policies of this government.

The Personnel Secretariat will establish and distribute appropriate guidelines and procedures, the Public Services Act and regulations, the affirmative action policy, the official languages policy and guidelines, and the human resource manual will also govern the manner in which staffing is conducted. The secretariat will conduct regular audits of the departments' staffing activities that will be frequent at first. Annual audits should be significant after the first year of delegation. Audits are intended to determine compliance with established procedures.

Audit results will be provided to the deputy ministers and will contain recommendations to correct procedural deficiencies. Any complaints will be investigated. The secretariat will also be available to investigate specific staffing complaints when necessary. For example, there is no appeal mechanism when a position is excluded from the UNW bargaining unit, and Ministers regularly receive enquiries from fellow MLAs as well as from constituents. So we would investigate those complaints.

The Personnel Secretariat will provide specialized training to department staff at both headquarters and the regions for the first year or two. Departments will then recruit their own staffing in a normal manner. Training and support for selection committee members will continue to be provided on an ongoing basis, Mr. Speaker.

During the transition period, the Secretariat will continue to provide recruitment services until the Minister of Finance delegates authority to the individual deputy ministers. Those deputy ministers will then be held accountable.

The secretariat will provide support and assistance to departments, when requested, during the transition period. This includes coordinating summer student employment, casual employment, assistant and senior management, Hay

Plan recruitment activities, maintenance of staffing priority lists, and also for laid-off employees.

Beginning immediately, training will be provided to the department staff which will enable individual departments to conduct recruitment activities. Training will include group sessions and short internship. While in completion of the training program, departments will assume full staffing responsibility.

The Personnel Secretariat will continue to be available to departments on a consultative and advisory basis, should the need arise. As departments' training needs are met, staffing authority will be delegated by administered departments. Departments will then be fully accountable for their staff decisions, rather than sharing the accountability with Personnel.

It is intended to sunset the four positions as the need for training and assistance is reduced, no later than the end of this government's term of office. We will sunset all the other positions in Personnel and then the departments will have full responsibility.

Departmental staff have received practitioner training. The Personnel Secretariat will continue to provide a recruitment service. However, departments can expect to be more involved than they have in the past. These recruitment actions will be used as a training session and will facilitate a smooth transfer of the authority, Mr. Speaker.

Departments will assume full responsibility for casual employment. Applications for casual work will apply directly to individual departments for employment. Similarly, summer students will also apply directly to departments for summer employment opportunities.

The secretariat will play a coordinating role for student and casual employment by referring candidates to the departments and meeting with individuals to discuss employment. As well, Mr. Speaker, compliance with the policy and procedures, the secretariat will review all staffing appeal decisions to determine if departments have misapplied policies or failed to follow established procedures. Corrective action will then be recommended, Mr. Speaker. Complaints that cannot be addressed through the appeals process will be investigated by the Personnel Secretariat. Appropriate reports and recommendations will then be prepared.

The Minister of Finance who is responsible...

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Mr. Morin , I believe you did answer the question. Thanks. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Erasmus , supplementary.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Actually, he didn't answer my question, but I'm glad he had lots of water there to keep his throat a little bit wet. What I wanted to know...

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Excuse me. Please be seated. Mr. Erasmus .

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am glad the Minister finally is explaining how the process will work. Is it possible we could get some kind of a briefing, as the ordinary MLAs haven't had any type of briefing. Some of us have a hard time understanding things if it is just read to us. It would be nice to have a nice little briefing with those nice little coloured pictures the staff makes, so we could really understand how things are going to be coordinated. Is this a possibility? I know we will be having a few days of Caucus after the session is over.

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be pleased to do that with Caucus. I will set it up and send a letter around, I will work with the chairman of Caucus and share the information with you. Thank you.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Mahsi cho, Mr. Chairman. I wonder if the Premier could also tell us if a similar briefing could be provided of how the communications officers and public affairs officers work within the departments. A similar process has happened in that end where there is no centralized coordination by the public affairs office, to the best of my understanding.

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Thank you. Premier , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my understanding that departments have, in the past, always done their own work in communications. There was never a central agency or central press office. So those things will continue to happen. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Item 7, written questions. Item 8, returns to written questions. Item 9, replies to Opening Address. Item 10, petitions. Item 11, reports of standing and special committees. Item 12,

reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 13, tabling of documents. Item 14, notices of motion. Item 15, notices of motions for first reading of bills. Item 16, motions. Item 17, first reading of bills. Mr. Ng .

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Bill 14: Legislative Assembly And Executive Council Act, No. 3

Item 17: First Reading Of Bills

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Nahendeh , that Bill 14, Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 3 , be read for the first time. Thank you.

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Question is being called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

--- Carried

Bill 14 has had first reading. Item 17, first reading of bills. Item 18, second reading of bills. Mr. Ng .

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Bill 15: Statute Revision Act

Item 18: Second Reading Of Bills

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Nahendeh , that Bill 15, Statute Revision Act , be read for the second time. Mr. Speaker, this bill provides for the appointment of a statute revision Commissioner and for the preparation, approval and coming into force of the revised statutes of the Northwest Territories, 1998, and the statutes of Nunavut, 1999. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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