Debates of Oct. 11th, 1996

This is page numbers 1093 - 1119 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was information .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Ministers' Statement 106-13(3): Socio-economic Agreement With Bhp

Ministers' Statement 107-13(3): Graduates Of NWT Power Corp Training Program

Ministers' Statement 108-13(3): Correction To Statement Regarding Staff Housing

Ministers' Statement 109-13(3): Concerns Voiced By The Status Of Women's Council

Ministers' Statement 110-13(3): Results Of The NWT School Relationships Survey

Internet Access To Statutes Of The Northwest Territories

Members' Statement On Hay River Fire Department

Members' Statement On

Article Regarding Farley Mowat's Writings

Members' Statement On Yellowknife South Riding

Members' Statement On Access To Public Information

Senior's Fuel Subsidy

Members' Statement On Draft Constitutional Package

Members' Statement On Beneficial Results Of Budget Cuts

Return To Oral Question 393-13(3): Concerns Regarding The Registration Process For Nurses

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Suicide In Inuit Community

Contract Information

Resignations Of Therapists Contracted For Eap

Positive Relationships In NWT Schools

Aboriginal Rights Recognized In GNWT Planning

Communities Surveyed Re: School Relationships

Reductions In Fire Fighting Training

Causes Of Fatalities In Correctional Centres

List Of Negotiated And Sole-sourced Contracts

Responsibilities For Repatriation Of Remains

Further GNWT/bhp Negotiations

Meeting To Address Inuvik/baffin Hospitals

Status Of Allowances To Adult Students

Identification Of Negotiated/sole-sourced Contracts

Funding Options For Tl'oondih Healing Society

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Item 15: Notices Of Motions For First Reading Of Bills

Item 14: Notices Of Motion

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 21: Third Reading Of Bills

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Hon. Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Hon. Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Hon. Manitok Thompson , Hon. John Todd

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Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you Mr. Rabesca . Good morning. Orders of the Day. Ministers' statement, Mr. Kakfwi .

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Ministers' Statement 106-13(3): Socio-economic Agreement With Bhp

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to be able to inform Members of this Assembly this morning, that representatives of the Government of the Northwest Territories, together with senior representatives of BHP Diamonds Incorporated, have completed negotiations on the Socio-economic agreement regarding BHP's/NWT's Diamonds project. On behalf of the government I initialled that agreement yesterday, as did Mr. Jim Excel of BHP.

This agreement is an important step forward in moving the proposed BHP Diamond Mine in the Lac De Gras area towards reality. Together with the anticipated environmental agreement which this government has participated in, I believe we are at a point where we can be comfortable in clearly expressing our support for this project.

Mr. Speaker, the results of the past several weeks were very encouraging. This agreement establishes principles to ensure that to the greatest extent possible, the people of the north will have access to the training, employment and business opportunities associated with the project.

Mr. Speaker, I plan to say more about this next week. My goal today is to make this assembly aware of this important development and I would like to express my appreciation to BHP officials for the strong commitments they have brought to the table to more forward together on this important northern initiative. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 106-13(3): Socio-economic Agreement With Bhp

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Just for the record, this was an emergency statement and we did not have the translation quite completed for it. Ministers' statement. Mr. Dent .

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Ministers' Statement 107-13(3): Graduates Of NWT Power Corp Training Program

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning.

Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories Power Corporation is committed to providing and maintaining safe, reliable and cost-effective facilities. As part of that commitment, the corporation recently honoured the first 15 graduates of an innovative training program for diesel plant operators.

These people have the critical task of supplying power to their communities, 24 hours a day, every day of the year. Their dedication to the job of keeping the lights on should not be overlooked.

The Power Corporation believes it is important that plant operators be able to upgrade their knowledge and skills. Well-trained operators are more confident in the job they are doing and they can do it more safely. Training programs are a wise investment because they provide employees with a solid opportunity for career advancement with the corporation.

The Operator Training Program brings regional operators together for two weeks of classroom training under the instruction of Ernest Murdoch, a veteran diesel-electric operator and stationary engineer with 20 years experience in the Territories. Mr. Murdoch also spends another week with each operator in their own plant.

The fifteen recent graduates are all from the Baffin region. They include ten Inuit operators, and among them is one woman. When the program is completed in the spring of 1998, more that 60 operators in 43 communities will have had their skills improved. Other courses are now underway for system operators, and a third program is being developed for shift operators at large plants in Iqaluit, Yellowknife and Inuvik.

Mr. Speaker, these people have a great responsibility, not only to the corporation, but to their friends and neighbours in communities across the North. Making sure they have the right training is the best way to help them continue to do their jobs safely, effectively and efficiently.

Mr. Speaker, I know this Assembly joins me in congratulating these operators, and future graduates, on their accomplishment. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers' Statement 107-13(3): Graduates Of NWT Power Corp Training Program

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Ministers' statement. Mr. Todd .

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Ministers' Statement 108-13(3): Correction To Statement Regarding Staff Housing

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Wednesday I made a statement in this House concerning staff housing. This statement contained some inaccurate information regarding or concerning the new deadlines we have established for our employees to take part of this program. I would like to correct that statement, if I may, Mr. Speaker, for the record.

We are extending the deadline for current tenants to submit an offer to purchase a single detached unit to November 30, 1996. The date to receive an expression of interest on multiplex units is extended to November 30, and on multiplex offers to purchase until January 31, 1997.

I apologize to my colleagues for any confusion that resulted from my previous statement and would ask for Members' assistance in providing their constituents with the correct information.

Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 108-13(3): Correction To Statement Regarding Staff Housing

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Todd . Ministers' Statement. Ms. Thompson .

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Ministers' Statement 109-13(3): Concerns Voiced By The Status Of Women's Council

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last May, I advised you that the Status of Women Council holds a vision that womens' equality can be achieved through developing healthy families and communities -- where womens' roles as nurturers, healers, leaders, advisors and teachers is respected and honoured.

The council's vision is in keeping with both this government's community wellness and community empowerment strategies.

The council has advised me that women are very concerned about the social issues that are seriously affecting our communities-suicide, depression, teen pregnancy, drug and alcohol abuse, child neglect and sexual abuse, family violence and sexual assault. I share their concern.

The council believes that its expertise in community development and wellness is a tool that can be used to foster and support community wellness and empowerment initiatives and economic development.

Full scale economic development and job creation will not bring benefits to the north unless we have a healthy, educated labour force.

Looking ahead to division and beyond, we need to develop our young people so they are capable of taking on leadership in the future. But this will not happen if too many of our children and their children are incapacitated or ruined by the effects of alcohol, drugs, child abuse and violence.

The Status of Women met last week with officials from MACA and Health and Social Services to begin exploring ways the council's expertise could be used to assist in the implementation of community empowerment and community wellness strategies.

Mr. Speaker, I commend the council on its efforts to support the development of strong, healthy families and communities. I urge this Legislature's support for the valuable contribution the council can make to community wellness and empowerment. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers' statement. Mr. Dent .

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Ministers' Statement 110-13(3): Results Of The NWT School Relationships Survey

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to advise this House that the results of the NWT School Relationships Survey have now been released. This project was initiated by the Northwest Territories Teachers' Association, which invited the Department of Education, Culture and Employment to participate.

The survey includes information from students, regional board members, teachers, principals, and other staff. It describes the relationships in NWT schools, and between schools and the community.

The results show that in schools with a positive climate, there is teamwork and an effective discipline policy that is applied consistently. The survey also shows that schools must be flexible and use a variety of approaches to find what is most effective for students, staff and community.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Education, Culture, and Employment and the Teachers Association are already working with district education authorities and teachers to improve the relationships in NWT schools.

Several initiatives are designed to help students deal effectively with challenges. These include the use of school community counsellors and peer counselling. The school health curriculum helps students learn anger management, problem solving, and personal management skills.

Providing support to teachers is also very important. A staff member from the department has travelled extensively across the NWT to train teachers in non-violent crisis intervention so they can work more effectively with students. Through the Principal's Certification Program, principals learn how to foster a school environment that encourages learning.

Developing this climate depends very much on the co-operation of parents, elders, and the community. And to ensure that students, teachers, and the community know what is expected of them, the Education Act requires every school to develop a discipline policy. The relationships within a school, and between the school and community, are very much a matter of community wellness. The resources of the entire community, including sport and recreation opportunities, play an important role in helping young people develop healthy lifestyles and the confidence they need to work effectively with others.

Mr. Speaker, I am confident that the School Relationship Survey will encourage a healthy discussion of school relationships in communities across the Northwest Territories, and help stakeholders develop an action plan to improve relationships. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Ministers' statement. Mr. Ng .

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Minister's Statement 111-13(3): Internet Access To Statutes Of The Northwest Territories

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a data base of the consolidated Statutes of the Northwest Territories is on line and available on the Internet. The consolidated statutes are located within the Access to Justice Network, also called ACJNet, which is sponsored in part by the federal Department of Justice.

The statutes data base is a joint venture of the Government of the Northwest Territories and the federal Department of Justice, with the latter having agreed to bear the costs of creating and maintaining the data base.

The data base was set up in February, 1996. Since that time, users have been accessing NWT Statutes an average of 1500 times per month. These numbers should increase as the statutes data base and the GNWT web site are being hot linked together. A user will be able to travel either way between the sites at the click of a mouse.

The statutes data base will only be truly useful if it is kept current. To this end, the statutes will be updated twice yearly. The material necessary to update the statutes to October 1, 1996, has been submitted to the ACJNet manager. The data base will be next updated in the spring.

The on-line availability of the statutes enhances the public's access to the laws of the Northwest Territories. ACJNet is a free service and for Internet users our statutes are only a few keystrokes away. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Ministers Statement. Members' Statement. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Members' Statement On Hay River Fire Department

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The week of October 6-12 is Fire Prevention Week, and this is the time of year when we honour those who devote their time, talents, and sometimes even their lives to protecting us from the dangers of fire.

Today, I rise to boast about the Hay River fire department. This all-volunteer department consists of 28 dedicated members under the direction of fire chief Ross Potter. Nowadays fire fighters just don't fight fires. Some of the most important work they do is working with community members to prevent fires. Teaching us to install and maintain smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, to install and know how to use fire extinguishers, to plan exit drills in the home and even to clean the lint out of our clothes dryers are all part and parcel of a modern fire fighter's duties.

Our fire fighters are as well trained as those anywhere. With the help of the St. John's Ambulance, Lethbridge and Red Deer Colleges, Alberta Fire Training Services, North American Rescue, and in-house training, our fire fighters are prepared for any emergency.

Fire fighters also handle medical emergencies. In Hay River, we have 2 ambulances with 3 trained emergency medical technicians, and 4 members with emergency rescue status trained at NAIT and SAIT, and who are amongst our fire fighters, and they have handled 204 medical emergencies and 78 medevacs to date this year.

Through funding from both the federal and territorial governments, the Hay River fire department has used volunteer labour to build a 3 storey fire tower with annexed smoke house and training room on Vale Island. The complex also includes a hazardous goods training area, an extrication area, and a propane tree. This facility was opened during last year's Fire Prevention Week with its first live practice burn in the tower in May, 1996. The Town of Hay River has provided funding for 2 ambulances, 3 pumpers, 1 tanker, and heavy and light rescue vehicles, but the Fire Department itself funds a rescue boat and a winter rescue vehicle.

Mr. Speaker, I think we should all ensure that the fire fighters in our communities receive the respect and honour they deserve this week. I would especially like to recognize 4 outstanding, long-serving volunteers in Hay River's volunteer fire department; Ken Hunt, a fire fighter with 30 years service; Roger Reidman, 21 years; Floyd Hopkins, 20 years; and fire chief Ross Potter with 19 1/2 years service. Thank you to all our volunteer fire department members who improve the quality of life and safety in our communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members' Statement On Hay River Fire Department

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Members' statement. Mr. Ootes .

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Members' Statement On

Article Regarding Farley Mowat's Writings

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my statement today will be a little dated. This is the first session of the Legislature since this issue arose. Last spring, Saturday Night Magazine published an

article accusing Farley Mowat, a Canadian author, of embroidering the tales in his popular books about the Arctic.

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Article Regarding Farley Mowat's Writings

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Some Hon. Members

Shame, shame.

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Article Regarding Farley Mowat's Writings

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

I am glad to see Saturday Night Magazine and author John Goddard, the author of the article, are not so easily duped by tall tales. In fact, they have now joined a long list of northern writers who have been rolling their eyes over Farley for years. Many of you have known Ernie Lyall and have likely read his book, his well publicized and best selling book, "An Arctic Man". Today, the Lyalls are a large and well known family here in the North. Betty Lyall works here as a translator in the Legislature. Any member of this clan is a highly qualified spokesperson on northern affairs.

It was Ernie who first dubbed Farley Mowat as "Mr. Hardly Know it". Many of you also know News North columnist Cec McCauley. She is a Farley Mowat critic as well. In an item last May, Cec summed up the Saturday Night

article with these words: "Poor Farley. They finally caught up with his fairy tales."

Mr. Mowat has not taken the criticism lightly. He has defended himself by saying he never intended to be a non-fiction writer. True; but neither did he take pains to say that he made up stories in his books, which have sold millions of copies world-wide.

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Some Hon. Members

Shame, shame.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank Saturday Night for publishing the

article by John Goddard, who, by the way, once worked as a reporter here in the NWT. Northerners are taken for granted too often. People come up here, form opinions, and go away. I am mystified by the fact that other people take them seriously. Is it so hard to talk to us directly? Mr. Speaker, it took awhile, but the rest of the country now knows what residents of the NWT have known for years. Hopefully, the Saturday Night

article will demonstrate that Northerners are the best experts on life in the North. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Members' Statement. Mr. Henry .

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Members' Statement On Yellowknife South Riding

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know that all of us who have been elected to the Assembly are proud of our constituencies. We all feel a sense of pride in our home communities and regions, and appreciate the unique benefits that each different part of the Northwest Territories brings to the whole picture.

I must confess I feel a special pride in my riding. Of course, I think it is the best place in the north to live. For that matter, it is the most heavily populated riding in the Northwest Territories, so I am glad to see that so many northerners agree with me.

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Hear, hear!

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

But the source of my greatest pride, Mr. Speaker, is seeing how many of my honourable colleagues in this assembly have chosen to live in Yellowknife South, when they are in the capital doing business. The honourable Members from Baffin South , Kitikmeot, North Slave, Inuvik, and Keewatin Central have all shown impeccable taste in their choice of Yellowknife residence.

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Bravo, Bravo!

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Even the honourable Member from Yellowknife Frame Lake is a resident of Yellowknife South. I am honoured that such an impressive list of distinguished Members, including half of the cabinet, have chosen to join me in the best riding in the north, and I look forward to representing all of you to the best of my ability as elected member for my constituency. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Laughter and applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you Mr. Henry . Members' statement, Mr. Picco .

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Members' Statement On Access To Public Information

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, recently we had heard about the crisis in Great Britain. No, I am not referring to the continuing saga of the Royal Family, or the continued activities of the IRA. Mr. Speaker, I am referring to the outbreak of mad cow disease. Yes, Mr. Speaker, mad cow disease. Now it would seem that this most vicious and virulent strain has appeared in the NWT. It has taken on a new form and now is referred to as sacred cow disease.

Mr. Speaker, sacred cow disease is in evidence in the way this government continues to deny access to public information on all negotiated and sole-source contracts entered into by the government. Repeated attempts by yours truly to have this information available have been stifled at each request. My motion that requested the government to table the information has been ignored.

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Kingsley may not be affiliated with a clandestine agency, but the Premier in his teflon and espionage-like way, must have had training at the Mondeno Top Secret facility for covert operations, the way he keeps ducking and diving on my questions concerning disclosure.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier said there were no sacred cows, but covertly, he did not mean public information.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to wish the residents of Iqaluit, Apex, and Burwell very happy Thanksgiving, and thank the good Lord for his blessing and support.

As for the continued fight to eradicate mad cow disease, I will be asking, Premier Morin, later today about publishing the sole-sourced and negotiated contracts for the umpteenth time. I hope that Mr. J. Edgar Hoover is listening. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members' Statement On Access To Public Information

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1099

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Members' Statement. Mr. Krutko .

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Senior's Fuel Subsidy

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1099

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to express opposition that our government that preached our community wellness, community empowerment at the community level, and they would have the best means by using that information at the communities for having the knowledge, the experience to have a say on how the programs are going to be delivered by residents.

Yet, the government does not see fit to man the income eligibility for the senior fossil fuel subsidy in regards to the cost of living in communities and taking into account regional disparities. And also, the cost for individuals to maintain a home, and the number of individuals within that home.

Presently, the subsidy for a single senior home owner has been marked at $12,973. It is nearly impossible to live in a home for below $20,000, maintain your water bills, your upkeep, food, and clothe yourself, yet this Government states that they can do it for $12,000. I would like to see them try it. Communities, especially with families where there is high unemployment, high rates of alcohol abuse, suicides, gambling, and other crimes associated with that are 2 to 3 times higher than the national average in most of the northern communities.

A motion that I put forth to the committee of the whole and the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , considering amending the seniors' fuel subsidy was rejected. But I also would like to put a face on a person, Mr. Ben Firth, and Sarah Firth, who is 74 years old, who is raising 2 of his grandchildren, and had a stroke over a year ago, has been 1 of the people excluded, and also there are 30 other families presently in the same dilemma. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to complete my statement.

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Senior's Fuel Subsidy

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Mackenzie Delta is seeking unanimous consent to complete his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent, Mr. Krutko .

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Senior's Fuel Subsidy

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1099

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this time, I would like to thank those Members, Mr. Barnabas , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , and Mr. Steen , for supporting me in the Motion, regardless of the fact that it did not go forth. I believe our message is now out there, where people can say this is an important item to the people on this side of the House. In concluding, Mr.

Speaker, I find it awfully hard to believe that in this day and age when we talk about stimulating our economy, keeping incomes in our community, and keeping healthy and economically stable communities, to start taking away those little privileges that people have put into our society by paying mortgages for these units they live in, paying their property taxes, paying for the services that they use, water, sewer, light bills, which we, on the other hand, subsidize to the hilt of God knows what, in regards to all the other programs, especially in social housing.

So an individual who tries to maintain his own way of living by being independent, being productive to the community and society in general is being penalized. Yet this government spends in the area of $600,000, or $600,000,000 to clarify my point, in the area of the Social Envelope.

To incarcerate people, pay for judges to basically incarcerate, to take children away from people's families, to basically penalize those people why are trying to be examples in communities, and basically find the resources to incarcerate people and also use those revenues for an individual who can be in government social housing, be an elder, and not pay any rent. Yet an individual who tries to maintain a household is penalized. There is something wrong with that.

We have to look at it in the context of how do we run government, and who are we penalizing here? The economy of the North should be maintained so that it is economically sound. Healthy communities have healthy people who are independent and show that they can make it.

Do not put them to the point where they become another social statistic in our elders' homes or in our social programs and dollars are being used to clothe, feed and in most cases, incarcerate those people at a fee of $80,000 a year to have 1 individual in the correctional system. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Senior's Fuel Subsidy

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Page 1100

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Thank you Mr. Krutko . And just to remind the Members, under the rules, there is a

section in there regarding, referring to an issue that has been decided during the current session. I believe in this case the subsidy for fuel has been referred to a committee for discussion and should not be brought up while that discussion is still being decided. Members' statement, Mr. Miltenberger .

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Members' Statement On Draft Constitutional Package

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1100

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the summer the Constitutional Working Group, made up of Members from the Western Caucus of the Legislative Assembly and Members from the Aboriginal Summit, has been working to draw together 30 years of northern constitutional discussions into a draft constitutional package.

Press reports this morning seem to suggest that this draft, which will be tabled in this House next week, is a done deal. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is and has always been the intention of the Constitutional Working Group to prepare a draft package which we would give to the people and give them something concrete to talk about.

After the package is tabled, an intensive process of consultation across the western NWT to get feedback will take place. The people of the western territory need to review the package and talk about it. Our constitution will set our course for the future. We need the ideas of everyone to make sure the final constitutional package is something we can all agree and live with.

Yes, Mr. Minister Antoine is in Ottawa, and will talk to Mr. Irwin about our constitutional development process. It is critical that we keep the federal government aware of what we are doing. However, the decision about what our final constitution will look like will be decided first and foremost by the people of the western territory.

Over the winter we will have an opportunity to shape the draft package until it reflects the constitution we want to have. Finally Mr. Speaker, we will be the authors of our own destiny. Thank you.

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Page 1100

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' statement. Mr. O'Brien .

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Members' Statement On Beneficial Results Of Budget Cuts

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1100

Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, although I have many reservations and concerns about the serious budget cutting course that we are on, as I have mentioned on many occasions in this House, before we continue with this exercise, we should be able to demonstrate and also be able to measure the beneficial results of this process. To speak on a positive note, we should also be thankful for what we do have.

With that, I wish a very pleasant Thanksgiving to all the residents in Arviat and Baker Lake, especially the seniors and the children. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 1100

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Members' Statement. Returns to Oral Questions Mr. Ng .

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Return To Oral Question 393-13(3): Concerns Regarding The Registration Process For Nurses

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 1101

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Picco on October the fourth, 1996, in respect to the registration process in the nursing profession in the NWT. The nursing profession in the Northwest Territories is a self-governing profession.

The registration process is done by the Northwest Territories Registered Nurses Association's Registration Committee. The Committee meets every three weeks to review applications. The NWTRNA at their biannual general meeting this summer revised the bylaws related to the registration committee to appoint more members to the Committee.

These changes have improved the review process. The expectation is that it should be easier to obtain a quorum to consider applications. Delays in registration are often due to missing documentation that needs to be provided by the applicant.

Registration cannot be taken lightly, as the primary purpose is to ensure protection of the public; therefore, documentation must be complete. The operations process has been improved by notifying applicants of what documentation is missing from the applicant's file.

A survey of the turnaround time of other Canadian licensing jurisdictions conducted by the NWTRNA shows that the time it takes for registration in the NWT is reasonable. In the 1996 year, 789 registrations were completed by the registration committee. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 1101

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Returns to Oral questions. Mr. Todd .

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Return To Question 380-13(3): Person Year Reduction Figures

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 1101

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have two returns to oral questions. One asked by Mr. Ootes and one by Mr. Krutko on October 3 and 4 with respect to position reductions and layoffs. A number of questions have been asked in the past regarding position reductions and layoffs within the GNWT as a result of the Deficit Recovery Plan. In the fiscal year 1996/97, to date there has been an overall reduction of 345 positions.

This figure includes positions reduced debt, pardon me, includes position reductions made by all government departments, divisional boards of education and colleges, but does not include position reductions made by health boards. Information on health board reductions is being gathered, and I will update this figure when the information becomes available.

Every effort has been made within the government to minimize the impact of the budget reductions on employees by wherever possible eliminating positions that are vacant or redeploying staff.

As a result of these efforts in 1996/97 to date, a total of 207 GNWT employees have been laid off, of whom 22 have been rehired and redeployed. We do anticipate further position reductions and possible layoffs in 1997/98 as we implement year two of our Deficit Recovery Plan.

Departments are finalizing business plans for next year, and are in the early stages of preparing the 1997/98 budgets. However, we will not know the full extent of potential reductions; that will be Main Estimates tabled in the House next January.

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Return To Question 398-13(3): Contract Hiring Of Laid Off Employees

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 1101

John Todd

Keewatin Central

If I may Mr. Speaker, I have another one asked by Mr. Ootes on October 10, 1996, again specifically with respect to staff reductions in Yellowknife. In the fiscal year 1996/97, to date there has been an overall reduction of 175 positions in Yellowknife, out of a total of 345 within the government system. During this year 90 people have received lay-off notices in Yellowknife. Three of these people were redeployed, and one lay-off notice rescinded, leaving a total of 86 people laid off. Thank you.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 1102

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Morin .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Page 1102

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Marie Coe, who is a long-time employee of this Legislative Assembly and did Hansard for previous Legislative Assemblies. She is a long time friend of many of the older sitting Members; not older sitting, any of the Members that sat here for more than one term. Thank you.

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Page 1102

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Oral questions. Mr. Evaloarjuk .

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Question 468-13(3): Suicide In Inuit Community

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1102

Mark Evaloarjuk

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services concerning suicide. Suicide is an issue of great concern to me; I see so many people lose relatives to suicide nowadays. It is something that has not been part of traditional Inuit ways.

I am looking for answers. I wonder why some people seem to fear death. I wonder how alcohol and drugs affect people's fear of death, or their decisions to attempt suicide. I wonder how much of an effect violence on television or violent music or lyrics has on suicide attempts. I wonder how the availability of shelters has affected the suicide rate.

Can the Minister tell me whether his department has done any studies on these issues, and can he provide us with any answers those studies may have found? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 468-13(3): Suicide In Inuit Community

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1102

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng .

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Question 468-13(3): Suicide In Inuit Community

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1102

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is a serious issue that is of major concern to many of us. The department has not done any formal studies on suicide. What we have done is held our sponsored regional and Territorial forums in the past, with community agencies and community leaders and interested individuals, to try to come to an understanding of some of the causes of suicide, and to try to formulate suggestions on how to tackle this significant issue, Mr. Speaker.

What those forums did identify were that some of the issues relating to suicidal behaviours were indicated to be: abuse, whether it was sexual abuse, spousal abuse, alcohol and drug substance abuse; conditions in housing; personal conditions of whether you were employed, what your personal relationships were with your peers and your family members, the past loss of maybe close family or friends. There are a whole multitude of factors that come into consideration in leading an individual to try to move to the drastic step of attempting to take their own lives, Mr. Speaker.

So what we found also, Mr. Speaker, from these discussions that were held, these issues that were brought up as possible causes or contributors to the possibility of suicide, they were very consistent with other studies that have been done by other jurisdictions, and nationally, for groups and formal studies that had taken place. We recognize that our circumstances are certainly no different except for the fact that our rates, Mr. Speaker, are significantly higher than the national standards. In fact, anywhere from 2 1/2 to 5 times the national average, depending on which year you compare suicide rates to. It continues to be an issue of great concern, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1102

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. Picco .

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Question 469-13(3): Contract Information

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1102

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, this government does list all contracts entered into. That is true. But this voluminous book does not indicate what is negotiated or what is sole-sourced. Can the Premier indicate when he will provide that information?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Premier .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1103

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We continue to provide this information to the Standing Committee on Government Operations on an annual basis and on a quarterly basis. So it is provided to Members. Thank you.

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Page 1103

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Oral question. Supplementary, Mr. Picco .

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Question 469-13(3): Contract Information

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1103

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the list provided to the Government Operations Committee is not a complete list. For example, it does not give you what has been sole-sourced. It is provided to the Government Operations Committee but it is not provided to the public at large. So when will the Premier be allowing this government to table sole-source and negotiated contracts entered into by this government on an annual basis for public review? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1103

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1103

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This fine document here, which is a contract report for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1995, is provided to the public in general, and it is available to the public. All Members of this Assembly receive this report, and they receive it at no charge, because we believe in sharing information.

The public is asked in the spirit of cooperation and user pay, that they pay nine dollars for that document, and it is available to all public that want to pay that price. We, as Members of this Assembly, all of us have to watch how we produce paper. We as politicians seem to produce a lot of paper, and there is a cost associated to that. I know that we are all on restraint budgets, so the public will continue to pay nine dollars, and they can get the information. I am sure that if the press wants that information, they can pay the nine dollars as well. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Oral question. Supplementary, Mr. Picco .

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Question 469-13(3): Contract Information

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1103

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not have a copy of the voluminous book. I am glad to see the Premier has a copy of it, and as we know, it does list all contracts entered into by this government, that is true. But it does not specify what contracts were negotiated, or what contracts were sole-sourced. A simple asterisk on the listed contract -- two for sole- sourced, and one for negotiated -- will tell you that information.

So, indeed, the contracts are listed, but it does not specify what I have been requesting for the last six months, and what the public want. So, my question again is to the Minister -- to the Premier -- when will that information will be available? When do you actually break it down into what is negotiated and what is sole-sourced? I cannot make it any clearer than that, Mr. Speaker. I have tried, I have tried, I have tried. And I am sure the Premier has tried and tried and tried.

Maybe the Minister could give us an example out of the book of a contract that has been negotiated. Could he find one? I do not think he could, because it is not listed as such. So when will he list the contracts as negotiated or sole-sourced? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Morin .

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Page 1104

Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My understanding from the Minister responsible for putting that document together is that it took approximately five PYs approximately two months to put this document together for public information.

Like I have told Members, and I continue to tell Members, if you have an issue to raise, get to the point, get directly to that point. You can ask a question in a broad statement if you want to find out information. But if you have a specific contract you are interested in, we will be happy to answer those questions, or the Minister responsible would be happy to answer any questions any Member of the Legislative Assembly has with any contract this government has.

We have already been advised by Justice that the way we are doing business right now, by sharing the information with the Standing Committee on Government Operations, is the right way to do business. That leaves us with enough flexibility so that we give them all the information, and if the general public want the information, they can pay the nine dollars for this document. Thank you.

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Page 1104

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Picco .

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Question 469-13(3): Contract Information

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1104

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

This is like pulling teeth, Mr. Speaker. That is true, the document is available, and it is true that the contracts are all in there, and it is true that it has been given to the Government Operations Committee. The cost associated with putting in a couple of stars..

Every other jurisdiction in this country publishes in the public accounts copies of the negotiated and sole-sourced contracts. If I wanted to know about a contract in Fort Smith -- I do not live in Fort Smith, so I would not know what was negotiated in Fort Smith and how many contracts were going in there. I do not live in Paulatuk so I would not know what was negotiated or sole-sourced in Paulatuk.

I am not on a witch hunt, I am not on a vendetta, I do not like to go to the Minister and ask, can I find out about the negotiated contract in Toughluck Bay? That is not my point.

My point is, when it is listed as to what is sole-sourced and negotiated, when I see a line in there, Len Flett, Len Flett, Len Flett, Len Flett, then I can ask a question. Why is Len Flett getting 15 sole-source contracts making a living in Resolution, or making a living in Toughluck Bay? I do not know where he lives. But when you see that.. So my question again is, will that information be made available so that the public can look and see what has been negotiated and what has been sole-sourced? When? When? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 1104

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Again, just a friendly reminder to our Members. In question period, your

preamble explains the intention of your question. I think the first time the Minister hears it, and understands where the Member is coming from; your supplementary should be a response to the Minister's question. Members do waste quite a bit of time if you continuously repeat your

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member asks, when, when, when will the information will become public? The information is public, it is public, it is public, and the public will pay $9.00 for that information. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1104

Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services . I

understand that 4 therapists employed in the Employee Assistance Program in Yellowknife have resigned. I believe these therapists had a large workload. My question to the Minister is, if this information is correct, what provisions has he put in place to indeed take care of the large workload that the government employees here in Yellowknife may require services on? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, is the honourable Member referring to the Family Assistance Program for our employees? Thank you. Then if that is the case, Mr. Speaker, that service is provided under contract with the NWT Family Services local group here in Yellowknife. They have the responsibility for providing the counsellors for that service.

I am aware that there is some staffing turnover with the NWT Family Services. I am not aware at this time whether or not the positions are vacant. Certainly I can check into the matter and follow up on it to see if the services continue to be provided. To my understanding right now, I have not heard any information that would suggest otherwise, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Question 471-13(3): Positive Relationships In NWT Schools

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Page 1105

Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . It is in reference to a statement earlier today regarding the NWT school relationships survey. The Minister indicated that the results show that in schools with a positive climate there is teamwork and an effective discipline policy that is applied consistently. Can we take it to mean that where there is not a positive climate there is no teamwork, and that discipline policies are applied inconsistently?

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Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . Two questions.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think the survey demonstrates that creating effective and positive relationships is one of the most challenging tasks that schools face. There is no doubt that some schools are better than others in creating the atmosphere that fosters satisfaction in the school.

I think that rather than taking the view that the Member seems to bring forward, I would say that the survey has helped us determine which schools need some assistance to work at fostering a better consistency of approach and better teamwork to ensure that all students feel comfortable and safe, that the same is true for the staff, and that the programs are being delivered effectively. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you. Mr. Speaker, did the survey indicate whether a low or a high student-teacher ratio affects a positive climate in the schools?

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The survey did not attempt to address that issue. This survey was addressed to determine the current situation and the results that staff and students were seeing in the schools. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, could the Minister indicate how our current student teacher ratio compares to the provinces' ratios?

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe that our student teacher ratio is among the highest in Canada. It may be the highest; it is difficult to tell. We are at 17.4:1 officially in this school year. Last year Alberta was at 17.9:1 but I am aware that they have added money back into their programs and I am not quite sure yet whether that has brought them back down so that they would be below us or just slightly above us. In any case, Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories will have the highest or very close to the highest student teacher ratio in Canada. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 472-13(3): Aboriginal Rights Recognized In GNWT Planning

Item 6: Oral Questions

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the honourable Member for Health and Social Services, Mr. Ng . My question is in relation to this government's commitment to make sure that aboriginal rights, Treaty rights, aboriginal concerns and views are taken into account in the planning, process, and decisions of this government, especially in relation to people that we represent at the community level.

The aboriginal organizations also represent the same people that this government delivers programs on behalf of in regards to the government and the Assembly's work towards healthy communities and community based programs and solving and trying to find ways of resolving those areas, especially based on community wellness. Is that still the position of this government to work in conjunction with those organizations in relation to those issues?

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is the intent, as we move towards reforming our health and social services system, to work with all organizations that will be impacted by these changes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister of Health and Social Services commit to enter into negotiations on funding options in conjunction with other departments on core funding for the Tl'oondih Healing Society?

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I have indicated in the past, we will try to do all we can to assist the Tl'oondih operation and other operations to make them viable and assist in trying to enable them to provide programs for people throughout the Territories, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the Minister of Health and Social Services committed to the whole concept of community empowerment and involving community organizations such as the Gwich'in Tribal Council, the band councils, and metis locals in those communities to strive towards community empowerment of their members?

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is this government's position, and mine is included in there, that we are fully supportive of community empowerment initiatives and giving the decision making authority down to the local community level. So in answer to that question the answer is yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister of Health and Social Services provide an exact budget figure his department is willing to contribute as block funding towards community wellness, to my constituency, in regard to the aboriginal organizations that I represent.

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, those amounts, depending on the programs and how the funding and the resources for these programs are put out into the communities will come at a later date. I can't at this time commit to any dollars or figures or numbers, because of the fact that there is a vast array of programs out there, there are different communities at different levels of empowerment, of asking for and receiving responsibilities for deliveries on these programs.

So it is something that is an issue, and a number that will continue to be amended as different programs come on line and as the restructuring of the health and social services system takes place in the Northwest Territories, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1107

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . In regards to his statement on the Northwest Territories school relationship survey, I concur that effective learning takes place only in better schools, where there is a positive climate.

I was wondering if the Minister could indicate to the House, were all communities surveyed as part of this initiative?

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not, I cannot answer the question about the methodology of the report with that detail. I would be happy to give a copy of the detailed report to the Member, but whether or not every single school in the Northwest Territories was recorded in the study, I can't answer at this time.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate then whether the results were collated by region, is that too specific a question?

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the report the results are not reported by region, by specific region. It is taken as an indication of how schools seem to be performing in this area in general. There is a comparison in the report to how respondents see schools in their region comparing to other schools in the NWT. But the specific results by region are not broken up. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 473-13(3): Communities Surveyed Re: School Relationships

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1108

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Member indicate whether the document he has held up will in fact be a document available for public consumption, and will it also be used as a planning tool? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Mr. Speaker, this is a public

summary. We had intended to make a

summary of the report public, and not necessarily the detailed one, largely because of the cost of distributing the extra number of pages. But the intent is that the report can be available to those who have need to use it and the public

summary will be widely distributed and completely public by the end.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I didn't catch the last part of the Minister's answer, but I would also like to know, maybe he did answer when will that document be available?

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Mr. Dent , I would ask you to just clarify your last response first.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was saying that the document was intended to be publicly available, and in answer to the Member's most recent question, it has been publicly released and is available now.

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Question 474-13(3): Reductions In Fire Fighting Training

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1108

Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I spoke in recognition of national firefighting week. In reference to my statement, I would like to ask The Minister of MACA if there have been any cuts to the budget regarding the volunteer fire fighters, with regard to their training. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Ms. Thompson .

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The funding for the program in 1996/97 is $200,000, and the scope of the program for this year will be to concentrate on training, along with additional basic fire training as requested by the communities so we are doing some training work with the volunteers at the community level. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Kevin O'Brien

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, my question was whether or not there was a reduction to the monies that were allocated for training for volunteers. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Ms. Thompson .

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I realize that at the community level this is a very important initiative. We value the fire fighters and we are doing everything we can to assist them in their training. I will get back to the Member with the details on the cuts. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 475-13(3): Causes Of Fatalities In Correctional Centres

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1109

Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Justice . In the last few years, not last year but the year before, there were cases of deaths in some correctional centres.

My question to the Minister is that people that have died in the correctional facilities. I am sure the families of those people would like to know the reasons for the deaths and how they died. I wonder if the staff has checked to see what the causes were, and in the future will they be looking into the reasons why there were these deaths in the corrections facilities? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1109

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Samuel Gargan

The Minister of Justice . Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not positive there have been any deaths in correctional facilities. However, I will check into that, and if it were to happen, of course it is a very serious matter, in the respect that those individuals will have been incarcerated under our jurisdiction. Since it would be our responsibility, I would assume that there would be a full investigation into the reasons behind it. And all Members, all family members and individuals concerned would be notified because of that.

Mr. Speaker, I know that there have been some deaths in RCMP cells, if that is what the honourable Member is referring to. Again, because of the fact that those individuals are under custody, in those circumstances a coroner's inquest is held to determine the causes of death. Of course, with that there is a full public inquiry process that takes place with those inquests, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was talking about the people who are in the jail cells in communities and this has come up. Thank you.

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Was there a question there, Mr. Enuaraq ?

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Maybe my question was not translated properly. My question to the Minister of Justice was that I was referring to people spending a night in the cells, not in correctional centres. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

I still did not hear a question there, Mr. Enuaraq .

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Tommy Enuaraq

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was talking about, I was asking a question about people who were locked up overnight. I was not referring my question, I was not asking a question about correctional centres, but I was asking a question about people being

locked up, overnight, at RCMP cells. Thank you.

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Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I believe if individuals were to pass away while in the custody of the RCMP, in their custody, then a coroner's inquest would be held, as I indicated. Due to the fact that we would want to determine the causes of the death, certainly, and make sure it was the full public process in that determination, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Question 476-13(3): List Of Negotiated And Sole-sourced Contracts

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 1110

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, my apologies. I was on the run. My Speaker, I was the seconder of Mr. Picco 's motion on disclosure which was passed on May 13th and I have listened to the Premier 's replies to Mr. Picco 's questions.

I appreciate what he stated, that there were five PY's involved and they worked for two months to produce the document. I am now making some assumptions that this is computerized, and that to me, the staff are there to be directed to do as requested. To me it would not be an onerous task to identify which are contracts that were negotiated, and which are contracts that are sole-sourced.

My question is, can the Premier provide a list of all the negotiated and sole-source contracts that this Government entered into for the year ended March 1996.

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Mr. Premier .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do, do that, and we do provide that list to the Standing Committee of Government Operations already. Thank you.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Can the Premier tell me if it is specifically identified by negotiated contracts and sole-source contracts. Are they identified separately.

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Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

During the previous government, Mr. Speaker, the Standing Committee on Finance requested information on all negotiated contracts. The government agreed to provide the information to committee on a regular basis. The practice has continued into the present government and a listing of all Cabinet approvals related to negotiated contracts is compiled into the document that is released to the Standing Committee of Government Operations, on a periodic basis. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Yes, Mr. Speaker. I have to be honest, perhaps I have not seen it in my committee. I wonder if the Premier would undertake to provide me specifically with only the list of negotiated and sole-source contracts that were entered into for the year ended 1996. Only the negotiated contracts and the sole-sourced, thank you.

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