Debates of Feb. 18th, 2010

This is page numbers 4333 - 4364 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was community .

Topics

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 75-16(4): NWT Day At The Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games

Minister’ Statement 76-16(4): Best Wishes To Olympic Performers

Minister’s Statement 77-16(4): Vancouver 2010 Olympic And Paralympic Winter Games

Minister’s Statement 78-16(4): Territorial Dementia Facility

Speaker’s Ruling On The Premature Release Of Confidential Committee Information

Yellowknife Association Of Concerned Citizens For Seniors

Salvation Army Christmas Hamper Program

Adherence To Treaty Rights Housing Provisions

Aven Cottages Territorial Dementia Facility

Nahendeh Housing Concerns

Administration Of The Public Housing Rental Subsidy

Mackenzie Delta Constituents’ Participation At The 2010 Winter Olympics

Promotion Of Northern Film And New Media Industry

Safer Communities And Neighbourhoods Legislation

Annual Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Hockey Tournament In Inuvik

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Written Question 23-16(4): Electricity Rates In The NWT

Tabled Document 79-16(4): Take-A-Kid Trapping Program April 2007 – March 2009 Report

Tabled Document 80-16(4): Supplementary Appropriation (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 4, 2009-2010

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Revocation Of Appointments And Appointments To Standing Committees

Extended Adjournment Of The House To February 22, 2010

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:36 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome back to the Chamber. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Minister’s Statement 75-16(4): NWT Day At The Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games

Ministers’ Statements

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, tomorrow is NWT Day at the Vancouver Olympics and the beginning of Northern Weekend. It will also mark the culmination of our participation and investment as a government in these Winter Games.

Our goal was to build an awareness of our NWT identity, to encourage healthy choices among our people and to promote and advance the development of a diversified economy. We wanted Canada and the world to know that the Northwest Territories is a dynamic Territory with immense economic potential, diverse cultures, world-class art and fine crafts, unique tourism opportunities and a great place to live.

Tomorrow evening a group of representative NWT performers will showcase our Territory at the nightly Olympic Victory Celebration. They will represent and celebrate who we are to a sold out audience at B.C. Place, as they have all week to representatives of the more than 10,000 journalists in Vancouver and the three billion television viewers around the world.

Mr. Speaker, the Olympic Games have given us an unparalleled chance to demonstrate to the world the reasons why the NWT is a great place to live, invest in and work, and our government has capitalized on this opportunity.

Members are aware of our successful partnerships in the creation of Canada’s Northern House, our official pavilion at the games. Its displays, activities and daily performances by NWT artists have become a smash hit.

In fact, I’m very pleased to note, Mr. Speaker, that Northern House has had more than 70,000 visitors to date, including more than 50,000 in the last week alone.

Our government has also worked hard to include a human component to our efforts. We have sent dozens of NWT residents to the games: as traditional games athletes, as performing artists, as visual artists, and as youth ambassadors. They are not only showing the North to the world, they are also broadening their own horizons and performing in front of larger audiences than they have ever seen before.

Mr. Speaker, I believe the NWT’s efforts at these games has been a gold media winning performance. Through the extraordinary hard work and commitment of individuals and participants either employed or sponsored by our departments of Education, Culture and Employment, Municipal and Community Affairs, Industry, Tourism and Investment and the Executive, we have taken full advantage of this rare opportunity and have realized a phenomenal return on our investment.

We have successfully created a presence that is informing and highlighting to visitors from all over the world the riches and opportunities of our Territory. NWT artists and traditional athletes have been drawing crowds throughout the games, and, Mr. Speaker, our Territory is receiving rave reviews from the public and the media alike. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 75-16(4): NWT Day At The Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Roland . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister’ Statement 76-16(4): Best Wishes To Olympic Performers

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, tomorrow is a very special day for our Territory as we celebrate Northwest Territories Day at the Vancouver Winter Olympics.

Throughout the day there will be events and activities at venues like Canada’s Northern House to promote the people and culture of our Territory. In the evening our northern performers will take centre stages at B.C. Place in the heart of downtown Vancouver. This will be the main event of the Northwest Territories Day Victory

Celebration. During this event, the Northwest Territories Performing Collective will reveal, through traditional and contemporary music, stories and dance, why our Territory is such a great place to live, visit, play and work.

I can’t say enough good things about the performers and the show. Each member of the group has an incredible amount of talent and skill. Although they come from different cultural backgrounds they’ve all done a fantastic job of blending their influences and creating a distinctly northern performance. They’ve worked for months in rehearsals, making sure everything is perfect for when they take the stage at B.C. Place.

The show is powerful and full of energy. With the theme, The Drum – The Heartbeat of the North, reflects the many aspects of life in the Northwest Territories, from the importance of our cultural heritage to how we keep ourselves entertained during the long, harsh winters. I’m sure anybody who saw the preview of the Northwest Territories Day performance at the Northern Arts and Cultural Centre on February 7th shares my excitement about

tomorrow night’s show.

I want to thank the members of the Northwest Territories Performing Collective, the Inuvialuit Drummers and Dancers, youth ambassadors and the Dene and Inuit Games athletes for the great job they’ve done promoting our Territory in Vancouver. I also want to thank our partners at the departments of Municipal and Community Affairs and Industry, Tourism and Investment and everybody else behind the scenes who have invested so much time and energy in preparing for the Olympics. I want to specifically thank staff at the Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre for their support of the NWT Performing Collective.

I invite my fellow Members and all residents of the Northwest Territories to join me in sending best wishes to our performers as they make final preparations for tomorrow’s show. On Northwest Territories Day, the world will be watching. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’ Statement 76-16(4): Best Wishes To Olympic Performers

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Minister’s Statement 77-16(4): Vancouver 2010 Olympic And Paralympic Winter Games

Ministers’ Statements

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Robert C. McLeod

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to provide Members with an update on Northwest Territories participation in the Vancouver 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games.

Over the past several months, youth ambassadors and traditional games participants have spent many hours preparing to represent the NWT at the games. These individuals have shown great

determination in improving their knowledge on northern people, places and culture and activities, so that they may share this knowledge and understanding with the rest of the world.

Mr. Speaker, our youth ambassadors are fabulous representatives of the NWT. They will be placed in many different roles and in a wide range of activities. In each and every area, they will demonstrate that youth from across the North have great strengths and character, attributes required of our future leaders.

Our traditional games participants will spend countless hours demonstrating, showcasing and teaching Dene and Inuit Games to the many spectators, visitors and perhaps even some lucky Olympic athletes. All of our participants will be spreading the word that the North truly is a wonderful place to live, work and invest.

Mr. Speaker, the NWT’s participation in the 2010 Winter Games will also feature the NWT artists and performers. I would like to congratulate my colleagues, the Ministers of Industry, Tourism and Investment and Education, Culture and Employment for their support of the games and our northern talent.

Our team of young leaders are heading to Vancouver to showcase the NWT to the world. The unprecedented television coverage of the games means that many of these individuals will receive international exposure. Their effort over the last number of months has been outstanding and has certainly helped prepare them. I am confident they will be the best young northern ambassadors the world has ever seen.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask that all Members join me in congratulating our youth ambassadors and traditional games participants and wishing them good luck. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 77-16(4): Vancouver 2010 Olympic And Paralympic Winter Games

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Minister’s Statement 78-16(4): Territorial Dementia Facility

Ministers’ Statements

Range Lake

Sandy Lee

Minister of Health and Social Services

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise today to announce that Aven Cottages – Territorial Dementia Facility will celebrate its official opening on this Friday, February 19, 2010.

---Applause

In our A Foundation for Change document, we talk about providing the right services, through the right providers in the right places. This capital project is an example of our government working closely with corporate and community partners and delivering a program that meets the acute dementia care needs of the residents of the Northwest Territories. It is

also about building a Health and Social Services system based on best practices.

Operated by Yellowknife Association of Concerned Citizens for Seniors, YACCS, the new facility will serve NWT residents as a centre for excellence for dementia care, with a total of 28 beds of which four are for respite care. A day program for five to seven residents will also be part of the program.

Mr. Speaker, the Territorial Admissions Committee is in charge of receiving and assessing the applications from all across the NWT for admission to this facility. The committee has already approved 12 residents.

The programming at this facility will be based on a “carewest supportive pathway delivery model.” This is an industry best practice which means that the residents will receive personal, home-like care in specially designed environments and also provide meaningful lifestyle activities for residents.

Mr. Speaker, this project started with a feasibility study in 2003 and the Department of Health and Social Services has invested $15 million for construction of the facility and will continue to invest in ongoing O and M funding. YACCS is expecting to admit residents to the facility in March of this year, with 38 fully trained people to provide service.

I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge corporate partners and contractors for this project: YACCS, Diavik Diamond Mines, the City of Yellowknife, NWT Seniors’ Society, Nahanni Construction, Diamond Glass, JSL Mechanical Ltd. and Ryfan Electric Ltd.

There are many individuals and small businesses who have contributed to make this project possible and they will be recognized at the opening celebration. I would like to extend our thanks to everyone who have volunteered their time and donated money towards this project.

In closing, Mr. Speaker, I would like to add that this project has had enormous support from this Legislature. I would like to express my special appreciation to former Ministers of Health and Social Services, Honourable J. Michael Miltenberger and Honourable Floyd K. Roland and the many Regular Members of this House over the years for making this facility possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 78-16(4): Territorial Dementia Facility

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Speaker’s Ruling On The Premature Release Of Confidential Committee Information

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during my reply to the opening address last Friday, I stated that I would accept any ruling you made on the point of privilege made by Mr. Miltenberger . I do accept your ruling, Mr. Speaker, and had hoped to have a chance to address the matter immediately yesterday. Mr. Speaker, the issue of the Deh Cho Bridge is a serious and highly sensitive one, particularly for those of us who have watched the project evolve from the beginning.

During the in-camera briefing offered by Minister McLeod last week, I strongly urged him to issue a press release prior to the commencement of the House on Friday to enable all Members to debate this issue and let the public in on this very important matter. The Minister did issue a press release Friday morning and I thank him for that. As is now obvious, there were specific details included in the in-camera briefing that were not included in the Minister’s press release.

I did not and sometimes don’t always understand why certain pieces of information are more sensitive than others, but certainly I was not aware that some parts of the in-camera briefing were, in fact, intentionally left out of the press release.

Mr. Speaker, it is always a challenge in our system of government to manage and keep track of the information that is public, what is not public and even after my 15 years as a Member of this Assembly, I still miss things, and for that I do apologize.

This being said, Mr. Speaker, in expressing my concerns about the recent developments in the Deh Cho Bridge Project, I made reference to a specific number that was provided to the committee in camera, but not included in the Minister’s press release.

Mr. Speaker, I apologize to my colleagues for this oversight and to the Minister of Transportation . I have great respect for the privileges of this House and the important role that confidentiality plays in the work that we do. I hope my colleagues will accept the fact that this was not an error made in bad faith or with the intention to limit the ability of committees to do their work.

Mr. Speaker, I will continue to do my best, to be diligent in the future as I continue to monitor the progress and the management of the Deh Cho Bridge Project and work with my colleagues on this side of the House to hold this government to account on this project, to share with the public

what we can but to respect the committee structure and the privileges of this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Speaker’s Ruling On The Premature Release Of Confidential Committee Information

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Yellowknife Association Of Concerned Citizens For Seniors

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I want to pay tribute to the Yellowknife Association of Concerned Citizens for Seniors, or YACCS. YACCS was formed in 1983 by a group of Yellowknife citizens concerned about issues facing YK seniors and it’s governed by a volunteer board.

From its inception, YACCS has worked continuously to achieve its mission and that mission is building a supportive community for the health of seniors. YACCS first accomplishment was to plan for and build a long-term care facility. Aven Manor, which opened in 1987, is a 29-bed facility for NWT seniors who require nursing and/or personal care. Then in 1993, the first of YACCS two seniors independent housing projects was completed. Aven Court consists of six buildings, each containing four one-bedroom units which allow seniors to live independently. The second independent housing project was completed in 2007 and consists of four duplexes.

In between those two housing projects, YACCS, along with the community of Yellowknife, planned and built the Baker Community Centre. This facility opened in 1997, provides for the social and recreational pursuits of seniors and the community. It’s important to note that the building of this facility was made possible through a generous donation by Mr. Ed Baker. This centre is operated by the Yellowknife Seniors’ Society in partnership with YACCS. All of these facilities together form a complex located together on one piece of property close to downtown Yellowknife.

Last, but definitely not least, Mr. Speaker, is the soon-to-be opened Territorial Dementia Centre, Aven Cottages. This impressive, modern facility, which I had the good fortune to tour yesterday, has been a long eight years in the making. Formal planning began in 2002 and the official opening will be tomorrow, February 19, 2010. Without the visioning of YACCS and their recognition of the need for a dementia centre, Aven Cottages would not have been built. It was the persistence of this group of volunteers and their dedication to Yellowknife seniors that ensured this project came to fruition.

Partnerships are crucial to all of YACCS operations and thanks must go to the GNWT Department of Health and Social Services, Yellowknife Health and Social Services, the NWT

Housing Corporation, Diavik Diamond Mines and the Yellowknife community for their ongoing support to YACCS operations.

So, Mr. Speaker, I offer my congratulations to the Yellowknife Association of Concerned Citizens for Seniors on their latest accomplishment and encourage everyone to get out and celebrate with them at the official opening tomorrow. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Salvation Army Christmas Hamper Program

Members’ Statements

Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today, on behalf of the Tu Nedhe residents, I would like to take this opportunity to recognize a few people for the kind contributions and selfless acts during Christmas holidays.

Mr. Speaker, Christmas can be a trying time for families, particularly elders living alone or single mothers in small communities. For some of these, the Christmas Hamper Program provides the only opportunity to have a nice Christmas dinner with their family.

Mr. Speaker, each Christmas the Salvation Army here in Yellowknife runs a Christmas Hamper Program in collaboration with Air Tindi. They send over 25 Christmas food and toy hampers to the community of Lutselk’e.

Mr. Speaker, since being elected MLA for Tu Nedhe, I have assisted with getting the Christmas Hamper Program into Fort Resolution. This would not be possible without the tremendous effort of Donna Beaulieu in Fort Resolution. Donna singlehandedly takes on the task of identifying those in need and completes all the necessary paperwork or assists the people with paperwork and then, on top of all that, her and her spouse and children deliver the hampers to each household.

Mr. Speaker, the Christmas Hamper Program is an important program for some families in Tu Nedhe and is only made possible by the kind generosity and acts of these people.

I would like to take this opportunity recognize and thank those people; first and foremost the staff with the Christmas Hamper Program at the Salvation Army here in Yellowknife. Each year they work long hours making sure the hampers get to all the families in need. Secondly, I would like to thank Air Tindi for flying the hampers into Lutselk’e at no charge, and to North Best Foods for storing and assisting with loading the hampers for delivery to Fort Resolution and, of course, Donna and her family in Fort Resolution for getting the hampers to each household.

Mr. Speaker, because of the generous efforts of these people, Christmas for some residents of Tu Nedhe is much happier. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Salvation Army Christmas Hamper Program

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Adherence To Treaty Rights Housing Provisions

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I represent the community that has the second highest percentage of households in core need. I often talk about health and transportation needs in my region. Today I will continue with housing needs in my region; housing and treaty rights, to be exact, through our ancestors.

People are looking to the intent and spirit of the treaty rights; treaty rights related to housing as explained by our elders whose parents and grandparents were encouraged to leave the land, move into town and live in homes that were built for them by government.

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Adherence To Treaty Rights Housing Provisions

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Yakeleya , your time for your Member’s statement has expired.

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Adherence To Treaty Rights Housing Provisions

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Adherence To Treaty Rights Housing Provisions

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

There is a misunderstanding later, because they do not fully understand what they’re signing for. We need to make sure that the NWT Housing Corporation receives proper orientation to understanding their clientele.

In closing, the issue of bringing up the treaty will continue until it is clear what was meant when the government asked for our ‘X’. We were promised, as the saying goes, as long as the sun shines, the grass grows, and the river flows. This is a good treaty.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Aven Cottages Territorial Dementia Facility

Members’ Statements

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to join my colleagues Ms. Bisaro and Ms. Lee today and speak about Aven Cottages Territorial Dementia Facility that will officially open tomorrow, February 19th .

I believe the facility is very strong proof of what is possible when people are willing to work together. The facility has been talked about for many years and is finally on the verge of its opening, which is very exciting for the city of Yellowknife and this Territory.

The facility will be a great asset in the services this Territory has to offer seniors with Alzheimer’s and other forms of dementia. This territorial facility will have 28 beds and be located directly behind Aven Manor. It will include four respite beds and will also accommodate a day program.

The building was also constructed through a partnership between Diavik Diamond Mines and Nahanni Construction. I’d like to thank both of those companies for their efforts in building this facility.

Aven Cottages Territorial Dementia Facility would never have been possible were it not for the vision of the Yellowknife Association of Concerned Citizens for Seniors, or YACCS as they are known. I want to thank the present YACCS board and all that have come before them for the work and effort they have made to make this facility a reality. I’d like to make special mention of the very first president of YACCS, Ms. Barb Bromley, whose dream it was to get this specialized facility located in the North.

In addition to the YACCS board I want to also mention the great work being done by a constituent of mine, Mr. Greg Debogorski, who is the executive director of YACCS. Of course, I would be remiss if I didn’t thank the Department of Health and Social Services and Minister Lee for the capital dollars required to construct the facility and their ongoing support to operate and maintain the facility.

The facility officially opens tomorrow, February 19th ,

and I would like to encourage everyone to come out and see the facility for themselves. In closing, I again want to thank all those involved in providing their efforts in getting this specialized piece of health care infrastructure here in the Northwest Territories.

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Aven Cottages Territorial Dementia Facility

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Nahendeh Housing Concerns

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’m going to continue my statement from

Monday and speak about housing problems in Nahendeh. In 2009 the NWT Community Housing Survey confirmed that Nahendeh tops the region with the highest rate of core need at 36 percent. This survey also reveals that 236 houses or 32 percent of total households are inadequate and require major renovation or repair. I am looking forward to seeing repairs completed on both public housing and privately owned housing.

However, in some cases homeowners are in arrears with the NWT Housing Corporation. In many cases it is because they still owe money from previous repairs of their homes. Some of these people claim that work was not properly done or was incomplete and thus they were not willing to pay for it.

I have not heard about the use of the independent appeal process that I spoke about for the last couple of years, and I’m not sure if it is actually functional, Mr. Speaker. If this process was accessible, I think that homeowners could make a case that their debt should be cancelled or reduced. Many homeowners who need repairs on their homes are still in arrears from previous repairs. If major house repairs are not completed, core needs will continue to escalate in Nahendeh. There must be a way this debt can be forgiven and required repairs be completed, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Nahendeh Housing Concerns

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Administration Of The Public Housing Rental Subsidy

Members’ Statements

Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the recent announcement regarding the Government of the Northwest Territories intent to transfer various administrative responsibilities back to the community housing authorities is long overdue, Mr. Speaker. For years, the community governments and Members of the Legislative Assembly have been urging the government to transfer these responsibilities to the local government.

However, during the transitional implementation period, the government must seriously review the important issues that impact how effective these transfers will be.

Firstly, the government must recognize the true cost of operations in the North, especially small and remote communities and provide necessary resources so local housing authorities can adequately provide administration. They should not view this as an opportunity to save money and to cut costs, Mr. Speaker. This government should provide equal resources at a minimum, that they would allocate to the community office of the GNWT staff. Any less would be unfair.

Secondly, this government must not transfer only problematic administrative responsibilities, they must transfer a complement of compatible administration. This would not only ensure efficiency, but would provide enough capacity and resources for local housing authorities to coordinate various responsibilities in a progressive manner.

This government says they are committed to community capacity building. This government has to start fulfilling these promises made earlier. Other Nunakput communities… Government administrative services at the community level would start making a dent in the problem. Each community must be given the money, resources and commitment needed to fulfil the roles that they have been assigned to do. Without that, we’re setting them up to fail. Mr. Speaker.

Housing is a core responsibility of this government, such as water, health, education and protective services; however, developments in government seem to contradict the principle.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Administration Of The Public Housing Rental Subsidy

Members’ Statements

Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, this government must get serious and tackle these real issues with real solutions. Mr. Speaker, I will have questions for the Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Mackenzie Delta Constituents’ Participation At The 2010 Winter Olympics

Members’ Statements

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I’d like to acknowledge the many performers that have gone down to the Olympics to showcase the Mackenzie Delta’s dancers and drummers.

Mr. Speaker, from Fort McPherson the Gwich’in Nation dancers, which consist of some 15 members from fiddlers such as Dennis Thompson and Michael Francis who are well known throughout the Northwest Territories, and also includes the Aklavik drummers and dancers who have showcased their drumming and dancing all over Canada and internationally. Part of the dance group includes some 12 youth and I think, Mr. Speaker, that shows how we’re passing on our culture and also retaining our dances in the Mackenzie Delta.

Mr. Speaker, these performers are the real ambassadors for the Northwest Territories with their performance and, more importantly, the carrying on of the culture and dances. On behalf of the people

of the Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Speaker, they are showcasing the North and the Northwest Territories to the rest of the world and they make us all proud.

Mr. Speaker, I’d just like to congratulate each and every one of them and, more importantly, wish them all the best as they do their best to represent the Northwest Territories at the Olympics. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Mackenzie Delta Constituents’ Participation At The 2010 Winter Olympics

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Promotion Of Northern Film And New Media Industry

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I spoke last session on the opportunity for promoting our homegrown and new media industry. Since little has changed in the meantime, I will again try to convince the government to take advantage of this economic gift.

Every other national jurisdiction has acted on the evidence that a dollar spent in multimedia multiplies up to six times in local expenditures. We’ve seen Ice Road Truckers, Ice Pilots, productions that base their appeal on what no one else has: the magic of the NWT. They shoot their stuff with their crews then leave to do post-production, taking their money with them.

SEED program funding is doled out in meagre portions, ill designed for the realities of an industry that moves from project to project. We have a registry for film production businesses and that’s it.

The Canadian Media Fund recently held nationwide consultations for modeling its new $300 million Production Fund. Local producers attended. No ITI staff took time to attend. ITI turned down a request for help to attend national discussions on a specific northern fund component described by the fund president as “coming at a critical junction in the film, television and new media industry in the NWT.” A shot at a dedicated slice of the $300 million fund and we turned it down.

Let’s get serious here, Mr. Speaker. We have a precious, infinitely renewable resource: creative minds in a place like no other on earth. We know the amazing impact of film spending in local economies, the enviable success of Yukon and Nunavut territories and the approaches of every other jurisdiction. What we don’t have is meaningful and appropriate government support. In correspondence dating over years, our local producers, those who haven’t fled south, have been calling on this government to take simple steps. We need now a commitment from this government to carry out an independent assessment of the role a northern film industry could play in diversifying our economy.

The Minister has told me that an internal review is underway, whether resources are directed to the right areas and that recommendations will be made for the future. In carrying out that review I hope the Minister will see the need for more than a film commission that exists only on paper. We need expert industry minds to help us guide the development of their industry.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Promotion Of Northern Film And New Media Industry

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I am calling on the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment for a commitment to meet with representatives of the NWT film and new media industry to discuss the actions that he will immediately take to begin setting up an NWT multimedia and supporting programs. I will be asking the Minister questions today, if I get the opportunity, on current support to the film and new media industry and his vision for its development. Mahsi.

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Promotion Of Northern Film And New Media Industry

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Safer Communities And Neighbourhoods Legislation

Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’d like to talk about SCAN, that’s Safer Communities and Neighbourhoods Act. Mr. Speaker, a couple of years ago I raised this issue as a way and a means to deal with drug dealers in our communities. Mr. Speaker, I felt very strongly at the time that it is a way that our government can help support our government officials to help push back on the drug community.

Mr. Speaker, this is legislation that’s found in other places across Canada. It’s found in Alberta, Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, even the Yukon, Mr. Speaker. It works in the Yukon by showing that the community can help stand up for itself. As many people know, the criminal process is quite a lengthy process that requires a lot of steps and it takes a lot of time. So when a person calls their MLA or calls the RCMP, they have to follow along in a lengthy process in order to show the drug dealers they’re not welcome there.

Mr. Speaker, the SCAN process is through a civil process and it allows steps for our officials to go in and put pressure on those drug dealers to get out of the neighbourhood. Mr. Speaker, it really is an empowerment of the community; you say that these types of people, these types of industries are not welcome in their community.

Mr. Speaker, the government showed its support by trying to move forward on this initiative, but it never made it quite all the way to the goal line and it

eventually died on the Order Paper of the last government.

Mr. Speaker, this government needs to show some vision going forward that we need to ensure that our staff, our officials and even the RCMP have the appropriate tools for the appropriate process and certainly the appropriate crime.

Mr. Speaker, I think it’s unfair that we watch these types of things grow in our community without tools that we can react in a timely way, because, like I say, when a constituent calls and complains about these types of things, sometimes they take months and even years to solve through the typical criminal process, but the SCAN legislation through a civil system would move much faster. Mr. Speaker, I think this Legislature could show its support by moving forward on this imitative.

Back in November I talked about the great work that the RCMP have been doing putting their finger right down on crime and making sure they catch them, such as those drug dealers and bootleggers. Mr. Speaker, I think it’s time that we continue to fill that toolbox full of appropriate tools to do that work that they could use in the system, again, to crack down on those bootleggers and drug dealers that really poison our community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Safer Communities And Neighbourhoods Legislation

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Annual Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Hockey Tournament In Inuvik

Members’ Statements

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Starting this evening in Inuvik they’re having their annual IRC native hockey tournament. This is a tournament that started some 20 years ago and with a small group of teams. It has grown into a fairly big tournament today.

On Friday night they will be honouring one of the founding fathers of the IRC Cup, who unfortunately passed away on Boxing Day. They will be dedicating the arena to Roy Ipana, who was a huge supporter of hockey in Inuvik. He was one of those guys who was just larger than life and you just expected to be around forever. You don’t appreciate how much these people bring into the communities until you no longer have them around. I want to commend the Town of Inuvik for acting very quickly in renaming the arena after a well-deserving individual.

I’d like to wish all the folks up in Inuvik and Mackenzie Delta the best of luck this weekend. Be very safe when you travel and honour Roy’s memory by playing hard and playing fair.

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Annual Inuvialuit Regional Corporation Hockey Tournament In Inuvik

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 4, reports of standing and special committees. Item 5, returns to oral questions. Item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Premier , Mr. Roland .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Inuvik Boot Lake

Floyd Roland

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to welcome Ms. Weslosky to the House. Ms. Weslosky is the executive producer of CNBC weblog DealFlow that has a viewership of 88 million people. She is in the capital working on a series which will focus on the aboriginal business partnerships. She is joined by Mr. David Connelly, president of Ile Royale Inc., a management consultancy firm in Yellowknife. Welcome.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Paul Delorey

The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also would like to recognize David Connelly, a resident of Weledeh.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Colleagues, I’d like to take this opportunity to thank all our Pages that have been working in the Legislative Assembly for us this week and I’d like to mention two from Hay River North, Scott Burrows and Jenna Aitken and Colleen Burros has come over to chaperone for them.

Item 7, acknowledgements. Item 8, oral questions. Item 9, written questions. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess I should look at you when I lift my hand so you know I’m looking at you.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Some Hon. Members

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Written Question 23-16(4): Electricity Rates In The NWT

Written Questions

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation .

1. What kilowatt hour rates has the NWT Power

Corporation charged to Northland Utilities in each of those communities where Northland Utilities provides the services within the community, from the year 2000 to present?

2. What kilowatt hour base rate has the NWT

Power Corporation charged to residential customers in each of its NWT communities from the year 2000 to present?

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Written Question 23-16(4): Electricity Rates In The NWT

Written Questions

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Item 10, returns to written questions. Item 11, replies to opening address. Item 12, petitions. Item 13,

reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 14, tabling of documents. The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Tabled Document 79-16(4): Take-A-Kid Trapping Program April 2007 – March 2009 Report

Tabling of Documents

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table the following document entitled Take-a-Kid Trapping Program, April 2007 to March 2009 Report.

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Tabled Document 79-16(4): Take-A-Kid Trapping Program April 2007 – March 2009 Report

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Finance , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Tabled Document 80-16(4): Supplementary Appropriation (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 4, 2009-2010

Tabling of Documents

Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document entitled Supplementary Appropriation (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 4, 2009-2010.

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Tabled Document 80-16(4): Supplementary Appropriation (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 4, 2009-2010

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Tabled Document 80-16(4): Supplementary Appropriation (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 4, 2009-2010

Tabling of Documents

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to return to item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Tabled Document 80-16(4): Supplementary Appropriation (Infrastructure Expenditures) No. 4, 2009-2010

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Return to item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was so busy reading. I would like to thank Rhea Klengenberg and Ronald Oliktoak who have been here all week paging for us, for all their hard work and long hours they’ve been putting in with us.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . Item 15, notices of motion. Item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Item 17, motions. The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Motion 14-16(4): Revocation Of Appointments And Appointments To Standing Committees, Carried

Motions

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

WHEREAS Rule 85 requires that Members be appointed to the standing committees of the Legislative Assembly,

NOW THEREFORE I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Nahendeh , that the appointments to standing committees of the following Members be revoked:

Mrs. Jane Groenewegen , Member for Hay River South , from the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Infrastructure;

Mr. Jackie Jacobson , Member for Nunakput , from the Standing Committee on Government Operations; and

Mr. David Krutko , Member for Mackenzie Delta , from the Standing Committee on Government Operations;

AND FURTHER, that the following Members be appointed to standing committees:

Mr. Norman Yakeleya , Member for Sahtu , to the Standing Committee on Priorities and Planning, the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Infrastructure, and the Standing Committee on Government Operations;

Mrs. Jane Groenewegen , Member for Hay River South , to the Standing Committee on Government Operations;

Mr. David Krutko , Member for Mackenzie Delta , to the Standing Committee on Social Programs; and

Mr. Jackie Jacobson , Member for Nunakput , as an alternate member to the Standing Committee on Government Operations.

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Motion 14-16(4): Revocation Of Appointments And Appointments To Standing Committees, Carried

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Motion 14-16(4): Revocation Of Appointments And Appointments To Standing Committees, Carried

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Motion 14-16(4): Revocation Of Appointments And Appointments To Standing Committees, Carried

Motions

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Question has been called.

---Carried

The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Motion 15-16(4): Extended Adjournment Of The House To February 22, 2010, Carried

Motions

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha , that, notwithstanding Rule 4, when this House adjourns on Thursday, February 18, 2010, it shall be adjourned until Monday, February 22, 2010;

AND FURTHER, that any time prior to February 22, 2010, if the Speaker is satisfied, after consultation with the Executive Council and Members of the Legislative Assembly, that the public interest requires that the House should meet at an earlier time during the adjournment, the Speaker may give notice and thereupon the House shall meet at the time stated in such notice and shall transact its business as it has been duly adjourned to that time.

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Motion 15-16(4): Extended Adjournment Of The House To February 22, 2010, Carried

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion.

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Motion 15-16(4): Extended Adjournment Of The House To February 22, 2010, Carried

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Motion 15-16(4): Extended Adjournment Of The House To February 22, 2010, Carried

Motions

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Question has been called.

---Carried

Item 18, first reading of bills. Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Bill 2, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 2009-2010 ; Bill 4,

An Act to Amend the Child and Family Services Act ; Bill 7,

An Act to Amend the

Summary Conviction Procedures Act ; Tabled Document 62-16(4), NWT Main Estimates, 2010-2011; Minister’s Statement 47-16(4), Transfer of the Public Housing Rental Subsidy; Committee Report 5-16(4), Report on the Review of the 2008-2009 Human Rights Commission Annual Report; Tabled Document 78-16(4), Supplementary Appropriation (Operations Expenditures) No. 3, 2009-2010, with Mr. Ramsay in the chair. By the authority given me as Speaker by Motion 12-16(4), I hereby authorize the House to sit beyond the daily hour of adjournment to consider the business before the House.

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Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

The Chair

David Ramsay

I’d like to call Committee of the Whole to order and ask what the wish of committee is. Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We would like to continue with Industry, Tourism and Investment today and then move on to the Department of Justice. And if time permits, we would like to also perhaps call up the Speaker and the budget for the... I’m sorry. Okay. So conclude Industry, Tourism and Investment, Public Works and Services and then, if possible and time permitting, we go on to the budget of the Legislative Assembly.

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Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Does committee agree?

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Thank you, committee. I’d like to ask the Minister if he would like to bring in some witnesses.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Yes, I would, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you, Mr. McLeod. If we could please have the Sergeant-at-Arms escort the witnesses in. Does committee agree?

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David Ramsay

Thank you, committee.

I would like to welcome Minister Bob McLeod , Mr. Vician and Ms. Magrum to the proceedings this afternoon in Committee of the Whole. We are continuing on with ITI’s main estimates. We are on page 12-29, economic diversification and business support, operations expenditure

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a question to the Minister with regard to the whole mandate of the development corporation and the whole establishment of facilities such as the Fort McPherson Canvas Shop, the fur shop in Aklavik, Tuktoyaktuk, now we got Fur Clouds. We have all these different ventures throughout the Northwest Territories, but the whole initiative of the government back then was to generate employment in communities where we have high pockets of unemployment.

I think especially with the recession that we’re in, that’s something we should be seriously considering looking at and possibly formulating partnerships with aboriginal corporations or other organizations to find ways to generate employment.

One area we have to look at is dealing with the forest sector potential we have. I noted yesterday looking at home markets in communities. We need to formulate that partnership or relationship. I know the Fort McPherson Canvas Shop has been in McPherson going on over 30 years, yet there is no community ownership of that business. For a company to be in a community for 30 years, we should at least try to make arrangements to get some community buy-in through share equity or a partnership between a local business, the community development corporation or the co-op.

I would like to ask the Minister if we are looking at expanding that type of mandate and formulating those important partnerships especially in our communities where job creation is key. We have to be able to expand these enterprises and find unique products that we can produce out of those facilities. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Mr. Minister.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The BDIC’s mandate is to provide for business

opportunities to create jobs. We have a subsidiary program which operates on the premise that it’s better to have people working, even if the business operation is losing money. So if you can create jobs and if the government or if the corporation has to provide a top-up so that jobs are created, we are prepared to do that. We are mandated by the Financial Management Board, so for every job created, we can top up the contribution up to a maximum of $25,000 per job. So we have a number of subsidiaries that operate on that basis.

Also I’m pleased to say that we have a number of businesses that have been started up on that basis and were repatriated to either Aboriginal Development Corporation or an aboriginal band controlled corporation, so they take over ownership and full operation.

We also have the mandate to issue preferred shares in participating business development. In the cases that you mentioned, the Fort McPherson Canvas Shop has been operating for a long time. It has products that are renowned for how well it’s constructed and so on. Again, it’s a subsidiary of BDIC. We have approached some of the development corporations and they have seen fit not to invest at this time up until now, but we would be quite prepared to approach them again to see if circumstances have changed so that they are now interested in investing in these kinds of corporations.

We are always looking for opportunities and if there are opportunities in the forestry section, we are prepared to examine them. We have, as a corporation, been involved in forestry in other communities, so we have some experience in that sector as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Could we get some order in the House? The sidebar is getting a little loud over here.

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David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr, Krutko. I’d ask Members to keep your sidebar conversations to a minimum in an effort that we can hear the Minister’s responses. Mr. Krutko .

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I have talked to the development corporation in McPherson, I have talked to the co-op board, I have raised this in workshops we’ve held locally because they are talking about craft shops. They are talking about trying to help the crafts industry in McPherson. I asked them why do you want a craft shop. You have a perfect facility in Fort McPherson which is known, it’s marketable. It’s the Tent and Canvas Shop. It says Fort McPherson on the logo.

We have to work with those other sectors in the communities and work with the Fort McPherson Canvas Shop to allow them that opportunity to work in conjunction and formulate that partnership, but also to work with local entrepreneurs to look at marketing their products also. I think Fort McPherson, we still have

the traditional sewing style, which is not being used as much today as it used to by others where you use the different styles of sewing. Because of that, we are able to market their products throughout Alaska, Yukon and southern trade shows. It’s a perfect opportunity to work in conjunction with the craft sector in Fort McPherson, the canvas shop business and the local business.

I think under the manufacture directive we have, as government, we have a warehouse sitting right next door to the canvas shop which is owned by the development corporation and could be used to manufacture products either for the Housing Corporation or the oil and gas industry, so we are able to not only expand the economic opportunities in those communities and generate jobs in the different sectors that are there, use existing government facilities to do it and not just focus on one product. I think that’s something that I feel quite strongly about.

I have been talking to leadership, the development corporations, the Gwich’in Tribal Council and I think this is a perfect opportunity for government and the aboriginal organizations to formulate this partnership. In order to do that, we have to allow for some way of having the government and the development corporation, it could be the local Rat River Development Corporation, which is the development corporation based out of Fort McPherson, or the co-op, which is owned by a majority of the shareholders who are residents of Fort McPherson.

I think working with those groups and identifying these partnerships...but it has to be meaningful partnerships where you actually have a board of directors, which is a joint board of directors. It’s not people you just pick off the street.

You have to allow them to have a say in the operation and if they are going to invest, they want to be able to have a say in regards to how you develop products and consider other products that can be developed out of that facility. It’s formulating a business plan and working forward by way of job creation and look at the manufacturing directive and see how we can provide more job opportunities, more skilled people in the different sectors and work to entice that business venture so it can generate profit and get more people to work. Thank you.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We have our senior management travelling to Tsiigehtchic and Fort McPherson as we speak. So I’m sure those kinds of opportunities will be brought to their attention. I think that any opportunities to increase the revenue stream of our businesses under the BDIC will be pursued.

As far as working with the co-op, we work with the co-op in a number of communities, so we can do that. In terms of directors of the various companies, we went out and advertised for volunteers to sit on

the different companies because it was an Auditor General requirement, so most of the businesses are filled by directors from BDIC, as well as members that have applied to serve on the boards from the different communities. That’s the way we have been operating. If there are better ways of doing it, we are quite prepared to hear it and look at how we can better represent the community in these businesses. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Krutko , your time is up. I can put you back on the list, if you like. Now the chair will recognize Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, previously in Fort Resolution, the NWT Development Corporation, prior to their amalgamation into the Business Development and Investment Corporation, supported a business in the community of a sawmill. Similar supports to the businesses that are successful now under that investment corporation like Acho Dene Fur Clouds and Fort McPherson Canvas Shop. I understand from discussions with local people that there was always an intention, even though that business of the sawmill did receive a lot of support from the government, ultimately at the end of the day, it was not viable.

I was made to understand from the people in Fort Resolution that there was always a plan for the dev corp and now the investment corp to return to that community to create a business in the community. I just want to get the Minister’s opinion on that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Mr. Minister.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am quite familiar with the history of the Fort Resolution sawmill. I think that it was in existence for quite a long period of time through different management regimes and the last operation that I am familiar with, it was owned by the NWT Development Corporation. At that time, there was always an issue with accessing timber and that’s still an issue for forestry operators in the Northwest Territories.

The biggest problem in finding an efficient sawmill that could maximize the utilization of the timber. I believe, if I recall correctly, the recovery rate was something like 50 percent, which is very, very low when you’re harvesting timber.

Also, the corporation, for a number of reasons, lost a significant amount of money and consequently there was a lot of investment written off. I don’t think there have been any proposals that the corporation has looked at recently which would indicate it was feasible at this point.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I recognize that the sawmill didn’t work out, although it existed and created lots of business and put some income into the community and some employment. As I’ve often indicated, the

low employment in Tu Nedhe communities, I was more or less thinking of opportunities for some other business in both Fort Resolution and Lutselk’e, opportunity for a business similar to the type of businesses that the investment corporation now supports in other parts of the North. There is no business in Tu Nedhe that is supported by the investment corporation. That’s basically what I’m asking. Are there plans for the government or ITI to work with BDIC to try to get back into Tu Nedhe through Fort Resolution and Lutselk’e to look at some business that may be viable if not lumber?

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

The direction that I’ve provided to not only BDIC but also to the Department of ITI is that we want to work towards the objective of having an ongoing operation in every community in the Northwest Territories. So that’s our objective. We only have limited resources, so in the long term we are definitely interested in having something in Fort Resolution and Lutselk’e. We are working at establishing new economic development initiatives right now. We’re looking at establishing at least three every year. Ultimately we’ll have something in every community.

Certainly if there is a business opportunity that can be identified for Fort Resolution or Lutselk'e, we would try to advance it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Chairman, just shifting gears for a minute here, one of the other key areas in both Tu Nedhe communities, Lutselk'e and Fort Resolution, seem to be small loans. I’m not sure if that’s some sort of venture capital needed by some smaller scale businessmen in the community just employing one or two people and just some capital to get their business off the ground. Right now, the structure is set up where the economic development officers don’t work directly for the department but actually the department has a contribution agreement with the local organization to bring the EDOs into the community to deliver programs.

I’m not sure if the department... I guess my question would be: would the department go and support the economic development officers to maybe advertise or do some sort of communication strategy within the communities so that individuals are aware that that’s where they go and maybe advising what type of programs are available? I notice that in one community through ITI, like, through trapping they’ll get $5,000 grants. Then another community hasn’t even heard of it or I can’t track down where the holders of the grants in that community are.

So I’m wondering if the Minister can just fill me in on those two points. One is EDOs there, what type of support are they getting from ITI? The other is when they do provide pots of money into the traditional harvesting, what type of communications are in place so the people in the community know? Thank you.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We have a variety of delivery agents and either they’re ITI staff or they’re community transferred positions or we contract with a band or some other entity to provide the service. So what we do is if it’s a community transferred position, we review it periodically. We make sure that the funding we’ve been providing is adequate. We bring together all of our delivery agents together on a regular basis to make sure that everybody has the same information and also to communicate and market the programs that we have.

If the Member feels that that’s not happening in his community, well, we will follow up and take proactive action so that all of the programs are being marketed and promoted in Fort Resolution. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Beaulieu , your time has expired as well. I can put you back on the list if you like, but now the chair is going to recognize Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I had one follow-up. The Minister did let me know earlier that a review is being done of the support for the film industry. I’ve been having a lot of meetings with the folks lately and I guess they’re calling it now the new media industry. It involves a little more than film. Media is changing so quickly. I thought I’d start by asking what’s the focus of the review, what’s entailed in it, who is doing it and if there’s a time frame to it. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Mr. Minister.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Because of the different projects we have been working on, we are looking at starting the review later this spring and it will be done internally. Our expectation or my expectation is we would look at what all of the different jurisdictions are doing. A lot of people are referencing what Yukon is doing or what Nunavut is doing. In the past, with support to the film industry, the biggest concern was we were just funding southern companies to come up and leave with the money in their pocket and there was no benefits remaining.

Obviously times change and we were prepared to do a review and once we determine that there are significant benefits, then we would make representation to obtain additional resources and perhaps even go as far as looking at tax credits if that’s what other jurisdictions are doing to compete to see who ultimately...it’s whoever provides the most benefits that attract these filmmakers. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Weledeh

I appreciate those comments and it’s a very positive move. Of course, there are many and they are easy to get at, a couple of clicks on the Internet and we can see what Nunavut and Yukon are doing. It’s very similar between the two territories, assistance with local hires. You can put conditions on it to ensure that the majority of hires

are local or territorial before you get the support and so on; different mechanisms to maximize the degree of support with the investment made; travel assistance, recognizing the size of the Territory and so on.

I know the department has looked at it before, but it’s regarded so far as fairly shallow when they have looked at it. They don’t have the expertise on staff or at least they probably don’t have all the answers. Few agencies do have all the answers. I’m wondering if this review is open to participation by the public. As I mentioned earlier, we do have a lot of people who have on the ground experience, both within this jurisdiction and elsewhere. They usually have to go elsewhere to get support even if they are working here.

If the Minister will be incorporating their perspectives and insights into that review and how that will be done, again an important diversifying opportunity for our economy.

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We will be seeking input from filmmakers in the Northwest Territories. Our preference is doing it internally. We don’t want to be accused of relying too much on outside consultants to do things that could be done internally. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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That’s good to hear. I know there are a number of eager people out there who would enjoy the opportunity to participate in a review. For that matter, there are probably lots of people in the Territory who have expertise and could do an actual independent review rather than an internal review that I think might bring some benefit as well. I hope the Minister could consider that or perhaps that’s next on down the road as the next after we do our internal one.

Right now we have a Film Commission as we hear from the Minister often and yet there is really nothing there. It’s a paper exercise. I think one of the things is really our perspective in how we approach this. Really, if we want to see it develop, we are going to have to think positive on it and do some meaningful things.

I’m wondering if the Minister would also consider developing a commission with actual expertise and real bodies in it that have an interest in seeing this opportunity develop.

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Yellowknife South

I guess I see that as being part of the assessment. We do have an NWT Film Commission. Basically it provides liaison and provides advice to perspective filmmakers. So far, as the Member indicated, we do have three reality TV shows that have been operating in the North and we would like... I think obviously there are a lot of stories to be told up here, so we should take advantage of that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

The Minister brings up a good point. We do have a lot of stories to be told. Unfortunately, right now, it’s people elsewhere who

are coming up and trying to tell our stories, spending a few dollars and then leaving and spending all the big dollars in production and labour and so on elsewhere. I know that’s one of the real motivating factors of our artists in the film industry, is that they want to be telling their own stories, the northern stories themselves. So I hope that will be considered as well.

My last focus, Mr. Chair, is will the Minister be bringing this review, the framework for the review to committee and when the results are here, will he be bringing that to committee as well?

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We always consult very closely with the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Investment, so we would be doing that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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David Ramsay

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Anything further, Mr. Bromley ?

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

No, I appreciate that commitment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Next, the chair will recognize Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have a couple of questions. The first one references the study and the potential changes to the Business Incentive Plan, which has been out there being studied, being reviewed for quite some time. I wonder if I can get an update from the Minister on where the consultation on potential changes to the BIP is at and whether or not there is any plan to make changes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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David Ramsay

Thank you, Ms, Bisaro. Mr. Minister.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am pleased to advise that the consultation has been completed. We have confirmed a date to come back to the standing committee to report on the results of the consultation as per the direction we received from committee. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

As usual, I need to be a little more specific with my dates to get it into my head. The Minister mentions a date, but whether that is in 2010 or 2011, I would like a little bit more specific information of when that date might be, please. Thank you.

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My understanding is we have a date that’s been confirmed for the first week of March. I don’t have the exact date, but it’s one of those dates between March 1st and the 5th . Thank

you, Mr. Chair.

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Frame Lake

That’s great to hear that. I would just like to know, once the information has gone to committee, is it the intention of the Minister to publish the results of this consultation to the general public? Thank you.

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Yellowknife South

We would follow policy review convention and it would be referred to a committee, whatever the process is. We’ve already done all the consultation. All the stakeholders are aware of what is being proposed, so we would follow the policy convention of the government. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister, I think. That wasn’t totally clear, but I’ll follow up when the briefing comes down.

I wanted to ask a question with regard to support for Avalon, the company Avalon and the potential for establishing a secondary industry for processing within the NWT for Avalon Rare Earth Metals. I know that the company has been speaking with the government. I believe they have been speaking with ITI. I just want to know from the Minister whether or not the conversations the government is having with the company are going to...if we are entertaining all options and if we are aggressively looking to keep this particular secondary industry within the NWT and trying to avert any possibility of them fleeing and taking their operation to the South. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We’re doing a number of things with regard to value-added. We are undertaking a review of the competitiveness of the Northwest Territories and we would be looking at competing jurisdictions, because Avalon has told us that they are looking at different locations, not only in the Northwest Territories but also in Alberta and Saskatchewan. So we will be looking at the different jurisdictions.

We’re also planning with our colleagues from DIAND, or CanNor I guess is the more appropriate term, a value-added workshop so that we can determine how we can best support it. Specifically it has been reported in the media about what Avalon is looking for, is power in the Pine Point area, and we are examining what the barriers are. So the question becomes how much are we prepared to contribute in order to maximize the benefits to the Northwest Territories.

With regard to the secondary diamond processing, for example, when we first set up the value-added there we put up loan guarantees for the different manufacturers and more recently we’ve been told to move away from that. So what we’re doing is establishing what it would take to provide incentives for Avalon to set up their secondary processing in the Northwest Territories. So at the appropriate time we would come back and seek support as to what our government would have to do in order to do exactly what the Member has said, to keep the company here and operate in the North.

We would say, okay, well, this is what it would take to get them to stay and I guess we would make a conscious decision at that time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks for that explanation. I’m very glad to hear that. It sounds as though we are being very positive about wanting to keep this industry here. Judging by the information that I’ve been given, this is a long-term mining project and one that’s going to benefit our Territory, particularly the South Slave for a long time to come. So I think we need to do as much as we can to encourage this industry to locate themselves within the NWT as opposed to outside.

The last time we got information from Avalon there was a bit of a suggestion that they haven’t really had a lot of meetings with either the department or with the Minister and they sort of gave me the suggestion or the

interpretation that they sort of felt that we didn’t really want to talk to them, that we didn’t really want to keep them. So I just would like to know from the Minister, are there plans to get in touch with these guys sooner rather than later and to keep the dialogue open and to communicate early and often, as they say. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I can assure the Member that we have regular interactions with Avalon; our regional staff interact with them almost on a weekly basis. I myself meet with them at every opportunity. The last time I met with management of Avalon was at the Cordilleran Roundup in Vancouver and they do have representatives here in Yellowknife as well. So we have the opportunity to meet with them on a regular basis. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. That’s all I have.

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David Krutko

Thank you. Next on the list I have Mr. Yakeleya .

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to talk about the traditional economy. I want to ask the Minister about the support for traditional economy. There are several suggestions that were coming from Deline in terms of having the elders and trappers take out some young people to pursue this traditional economy and to support them. I think there were some programs, I’m not too sure, but it was something that they were telling me that it wasn’t enough, they want to continue on this here. Is there something like that within the budget here for supporting the traditional economy in regard to the trapping industry?

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David Krutko

Minister of ITI .

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We do have a whole host of programs that are available and also we work in very close partnership with other departments and other Ministers. So, for example, we work very closely with the Department of Education, Culture and Employment and Municipal and Community Affairs and also we’ve even had the federal government provide funding on occasion. So the communities that have been most successful in getting the youth to become

interested in trapping or being exposed to trapping are the ones that have involved almost the whole community. They bring in elders and so on to work with the youth on these projects. So we’re quite pleased with the Take-a-Kid Trapping Program and I would think that that would be the venue to have the elders participate. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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David Krutko

Mr. Minister.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

I should point out, also, that through the Minister of Youth , they are also involved in this Take-a-Kid Trapping Program. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you. I know that small communities that rely on trapping people have gone out trapping for a good portion of their lives, these elders, and certainly there are some young trappers who also want to be part of that lifestyle. I agree with the Minister that there are programs that contribute to trappers in the Northwest Territories. Just in saying that, I wanted to ask the Minister about the Trapper Training Program. I’m not too sure if it quite goes with the youth trapping, but I could be wrong.

It was just something that they were asking that, you know, we have a group of trappers, but maybe six trappers want to take out some youth and go out there for a month or two months, but not a one-time, but have it on a continuous basis throughout the year. There’s different trapping seasons, I guess, and they want to use that. That’s what they were asking. So they do appreciate it, they just say that we wish the government would put this or redirect or allocate some funding from the budget to do this in a way that they know they will have success with the youth there.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We have a bit of flexibility in the program, so our regional office has worked closely with the schools and I think that’s where the flexibility comes in. I know some of the communities, the teachers go out so the kids or the youth can also learn while they’re out there. So if a group of trappers want to get together and bring youth out, I’m sure it could be worked out. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you. I appreciate the comments from the Minister about the flexibility on this issue. I do agree with the Minister that some of the teachers in some of the smaller communities certainly enjoy getting out on the land with elders and learning about different cultures and that, and they appreciate being in the community. It sure makes a big difference for them to live in our community. They know that they’re taking a risk by going out, but they’re also learning a lot from the people. So I do want to thank