Budget, Oral Questions — 3 March 1995 (12th Assembly, 7th Session, pp. 431–457)

1995-03-03, 12th Assembly 7th Session, pp. 431–457

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Budget, Oral Questions — 3 March 1995 (12th Assembly, 7th Session, pp. 431–457)

1995-03-03, 12th Assembly 7th Session, pp. 431–457

Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)

Debates of March 3rd, 1995

This is page numbers 431 - 457 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was area .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Ministers Absent From The House

Achievements Of Ronnie Hauck

Survey Of Tourists Visiting Yellowknife

Nunavut Mlas Not Getting Two-week Break

Mammography Screening In The Nwt

Fort Smith Public Servant Misrepresenting Credentials

Traditional Events In Taloyoak

Achievements Of NWT Athletes

Territorial Championships Of NWT Speedskating Association

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Status Of Funding Cuts To Victims' Services Programs

Clarification Of Statement In Budget Address

Procedures For Verifying GNWT Candidates' Credentials

Impact Of Federal Budget On Overlapping Responsibilities

Status Of Corrections Strategy And Facilities Plan

Purpose Of Condition Rating GNWT Staff Housing

Funding For Traditional Events

Investigation Of Fort Smith Unw Regional Vice-president

Polar Bear Survey Near Resolute Bay

Status Of Bip Consultation Report

Summer Student Employment Program

Source Of Funding For Minister Morin's Lawsuit

Initiatives To Restructure Liquor Commission Mark-ups

Status Of Energy Accord

Information On Staking Claims

Assistance For Disabled Adults Living Outside Institutions

Fort Liard Request For Community Hall

Concerns Re Early Closure Of Winter Roads

Early Closure Of Winter Roads

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Defence Of Extreme Drunkenness

Bill 18: Northwest Territories Energy Corporation Limited Loan Guarantee Act

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates

To Adopt Recommendation 8

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Hon. Samuel Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Ms. Mike , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 431

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ng . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Minister's Statement 28-12(7): Ministers Absent From The House

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 431

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Don Morin will be absent from the House today to travel to Edmonton to attend to matters relating to the conflict of interest inquiry. The Honourable John Todd will be absent from the House today to meet with the chief executive officer of the Northern Stores in Rankin Inlet. Mr. Todd will also be absent from the House Monday, March 6th and Tuesday, March 7th to attend a prospectors' and developers' conference in Toronto.

Mr. Speaker, I will also be absent from the House Monday, March 6th and Tuesday, March 7th to attend the prospectors and developers' conference in Toronto and on Thursday, March 9th to attend the Pauktuutit annual general meeting in Inuvik. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Minister's Statement 28-12(7): Ministers Absent From The House

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

Page 431

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lewis .

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Achievements Of Ronnie Hauck

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 431

Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I walked to work this morning with a young man who I have known since he was 15 years old. He is now 32 and his name is Ronnie Hauck. He's a person with very special abilities and special challenges. A few years ago, the Abe Miller Centre assisted him in setting up a courier service out of the centre. About a year ago, I asked Mr. Todd to assist in helping Ronnie to set himself up as an independent courier service. He learned quite a bit about Ronnie and he was very impressed with his achievements.

I'm happy to say that on April 1st of this year, Ronnie will achieve the independence he's been trying to achieve since he was a teenager. In many ways, Ronnie's success is an example of what we would like to achieve with our entire economy. We are a very small population and we shouldn't depend only on mega projects to be our major economic saviour. In the long run, Mr. Speaker, it will be the hundreds of small businesses that will sustain us because they, themselves, will be sustainable.

This seems like a small issue, Mr. Speaker, but if we are successful in many small projects, the economic impact could be very significant. I would like to make this statement today in the absence of Mr. Todd because I would like to thank him for his attention and assistance in this matter, but do not want to see him blush.

---Laughter

So, perhaps this can be passed on to him. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

Speaker's Ruling

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 431

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. I would like to provide my ruling on the point of order raised by Mr. Lewis on March 2nd which is contained on page 988 of unedited Hansard. The point of order raised by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis , was in regard to comments made by the Member for Thebacha , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , surrounding the use of unparliamentary language by Mr. Lewis .

The point of order raised by Mr. Lewis was that Mrs. Marie-Jewell , in her comments as contained on page 987 indicated, and I quote: "Mr. Speaker, I did not appreciate those comments then and I still don't appreciate them. In fact, those comments are unparliamentary." In her comments earlier, Mrs. Marie-Jewell quoted from remarks that Mr. Lewis had made during his Member's statement given on February 20th, which is contained on pages 433 and 434 of unedited Hansard. The Member for Thebacha also added her own

interpretation of Mr. Lewis ' comments, and I quote again from page 987 of unedited Hansard: "He even said that the people of Yellowknife feel that Members who support the idea of a spring election are guilty of sleazy tactics."

In reviewing the comments made by Mr. Lewis in his Member's statement surrounding the use of the word "sleazy," I think it is important to actually read the whole statement to understand the context in which the word "sleazy" was used. I would like to quote what was said by Mr. Lewis , contained on page 434 of unedited Hansard, and I quote: "Any move to have a spring election very soon would be seen as opportunism and an attempt by MLAs to catch the opposition with their pants down and would be seen by many of the people of Yellowknife as completely sleazy tactics."

I have considered the matter. The use of a word or words that are intended to convey a direct imputation on another Member or on the House, itself, is of course out of order and unparliamentary. In considering the matter, the chair considered the words of the Member that lead up to the use of the word that appeared to offend Mrs. Marie-Jewell . I find that in this situation the Member for Yellowknife Centre did not make a direct imputation with the use of the word "sleazy," therefore, Mr. Lewis does have a point of order. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 432

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I, too, reviewed Hansard last evening and recognize that Mr. Lewis did not refer "sleazy" toward us as Members. Therefore, I would like to withdraw the quote with regard to these particular words as being unparliamentary. Thank you.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 432

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Point of privilege, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

Point Of Privilege

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 432

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, on a point of privilege, I rise under rule 20 concerning a report that was on CBC radio this morning.

Mr. Speaker, as you are aware, I did file the required statement with you that was on the news report and I would like to quote it. The particular area that I would like to quote is Giles Penney's report, "...it was an unpleasant struggle with frequent pleas to the Speaker." And particularly to the reference where he stated, "Thebacha MLA, Jeannie Marie-Jewell , started out saying she wanted to have an election in June. But, before she finished talking, she was asking the Speaker to rule on MLA Brian Lewis 's comments from February 20th when the Yellowknife Member used the word "sleazy"."

Mr. Speaker, I feel that CBC, once again, are reporting incorrectly. It was in fact Mr. Lewis who raised the point of order as we have just discussed this issue. Once again, we find that CBC is reporting incorrectly and not focusing on the issue that was under debate and more on sensationalism. The CBC does no favours to the residents of the Northwest Territories in not reporting accurately the events of this Assembly. They are not giving them information that they want to be informed about.

I know, Mr. Speaker, that we can't do much about this, but I want to correct CBC for the record. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 432

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Whitford .

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Survey Of Tourists Visiting Yellowknife

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 432

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism for conducting a recent survey of Japanese tourists here in Yellowknife. A survey of this nature will help Yellowknife and other regions to improve our northern tourism industry.

Part of the story that came out says, "the untouristy city and warm and friendly people of Yellowknife drew praise from Japanese visitors in a survey." In fact, 71 per cent of the respondents said that they would recommend to their families or friends a visit to this city, and only three per cent said they would not recommend a trip here. I think if you look around at any time during the wintertime, you will see an awful lot of people from the Pacific Rim visiting our city. They're here to view the northern lights. One of the biggest attractions, Mr. Speaker, and I wish we could export some of it, is the cold.

Forty below weather is also an item that tourists from the Pacific Rim areas like to experience for a short time, knowing they can come here and then they can go back where it's warm. But if we could only figure a way of exporting some of this cold weather, we would make a fortune. But they like it.

Also, Mr. Speaker, I have to agree with some of those surveyed who stated that some of the souvenir items are often too large and too expensive to purchase by the average tourist. It says that the price and size of the souvenir, gifts and arts and crafts are an area that the Japanese would like to see changed and improved. According to the survey, a number of the residents stated that these items were often too expensive or too large to purchase. I made those comments to Economic Development the other day during committee of the whole when we were discussing their budget.

Mr. Speaker, having been a tourist myself, I know very well that the size and the weight of items can often determine whether or not they are practical for me to buy and to carry home. An item may be beautiful, but if it is too big and too expensive to put in luggage, and weighs more than the tourist does and it costs much more than they can afford, tourists will probably end up leaving it on the shelves. They were interested in much smaller items.

Mr. Speaker, my time has run out. I seek unanimous consent to continue.

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Survey Of Tourists Visiting Yellowknife

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 432

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Whitford .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 432

Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. Items of a smaller nature are probably much more attractive. That way people can take home a number of items for a number of family members on an equal basis. They like to have something for everybody, and we mustn't forget that they come from far away and it's often quite expensive to carry stuff like that home, especially if it's only part of a tour that they're doing here.

Mr. Speaker, I was really pleased to note that the friendly residents of Yellowknife scored so high with our Japanese visitors. Their friendly attitude is not something that any government department can create by legislation or even by increased funding. A city or town either has to be friendly and helpful to visitors or it will not succeed. They either have it or they don't have it, I guess is what I'm trying to say. It's a very important item for tourists.

Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to recognize the huge part that our residents have in making Yellowknife a tourist spot that so many of our offshore visitors come here to see. They're to be commended and so is Economic Development and Tourism for getting this kind of information to the public. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 433

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Whitford . Item 3, Members' statements. Ms. Mike .

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Nunavut Mlas Not Getting Two-week Break

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 433

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just for the record, I would like to state that the motion to amend Motion 14-12(7) was defeated, which is unfortunate because the Nunavut Caucus ordinary MLAs will have less than a two-week break when everybody else will have a two-week break.

Furthermore, I was somewhat saddened to see that our Nunavut Cabinet Members did not support the amendment for the March break. I say this because, as I said yesterday, I did try to change the dates with the chairperson of the Nunavut Implementation Commission, but because of the Price Waterhouse report not being available prior to that date, we could not change the date. As a result, some of our Members will have to fly home and then return again the middle of the next week to attend this very important meeting that really is a key

part in designing the Nunavut government. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 433

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Dent .

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Mammography Screening In The Nwt

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 433

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, on October 31, 1994, the Honourable Nellie Cournoyea responded to my written question about a policy, on mammography screening for the NWT by providing statistics showing that the number of women having mammographies in the NWT compared favourably with five other provinces that have screening programs.

Mr. Speaker, the implication from these statistics is that there is no need for the NWT to have a breast screening policy because even without a policy, we still have roughly the same percentage of women having mammographies as provinces with screening programs.

Later today, I will table that documentation as an interjurisdictional survey. At the same time, I will retable the Minister's return to written question so the Members may compare the two.

Mr. Speaker, on December 15, 1992 the federal government announced the federal breast cancer initiative, totalling $25 million over five years. One of the initial activities was the National Forum on Breast Cancer. The forum's primary purpose was to recommend, to the health care community at large, priorities and directions for future action in four main areas: breast cancer research; prevention and screening; treatment and care; and, support and advocacy of, and networking by, women with breast cancer.

Mr. Speaker, all 10 provinces and the Yukon took

part in that national forum. The NWT was the only jurisdiction absent, even though the federal government offered to cover expenses for an NWT representative. In addition, the federal government committed $20 million over a five-year period to the Canadian breast cancer research initiative. This money is to provide funding for a broad spectrum of research relating to the prevention, early detection and diagnosis of breast cancer, as well as the treatment and care of people living with breast cancer.

Currently, Mr. Speaker, membership on the Canadian Breast Cancer Screening Initiative Committee includes representatives from Departments of Health in all 10 provinces and the Yukon territory. I understand the NWT is still not participating, the only jurisdiction in Canada not in.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 433

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Frame Lake is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Complete your statement, Mr. Dent .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 433

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, honourable Members. Mr. Speaker, Health Canada through the CBCSI has committed $1 million over five years to support and coordinate breast screening programs across Canada. Already, seven provinces and the Yukon territory have organized breast cancer screening programs -- planned or in place -- the NWT has not.

Mr. Speaker, it is distressing that the Minister's department seems not to realize how far along the other provinces and even the Yukon are in developing policies for mammography screening. Medical research proves the value of screening programs is overwhelming.

The national workshop on the early detection of breast cancer has proposed that high quality screening be made available to all appropriately aged women throughout this country, including indigenous women and those living in rural areas. Mr. Speaker, I really cannot understand why this recommendation which will save lives has not been embraced by the government. I have heard it argued that we, in the NWT, have a lower incidence of breast cancer than in other areas of Canada, but that is still no excuse for not participating in this type of program.

Mr. Speaker, we are talking about a program that could save lives. How long do women in the NWT have to wait? How many more will die when they could have been saved? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 434

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Fort Smith Public Servant Misrepresenting Credentials

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 434

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, recent public statements have been made about a matter that has caused many concerns to my constituents in Fort Smith. I am speaking of reports indicating that the regional vice-president of the Union of Northern Workers in Fort Smith falsely represented his credentials on an employment application to work in a government position.

Many of my constituents were very concerned with the fact that he was in an area working with troubled children, despite the fact that he allegedly presented fraudulent accounts of his training and education. There are further concerns that even when it was discovered that misrepresentation took place, it has appeared that no formal action has been taken by the Department of Personnel or the Department of Justice.

In fact, Mr. Speaker, this individual continues to retain his executive position with the Union of Northern Workers, even though he resigned from the public service upon discovery of his deceit.

Mr. Speaker, this matter has the potential to create a disruptive situation with the regional operation of our territorial civil service. It also has the potential to effect employee morale and to erode public confidence in the GNWT personnel policy.

Mr. Speaker, I believe it has left many of my constituents, who are in fact hard-working members of our public service, unhappy and confused about the sort of policies that are being implemented by their own collective bargaining unit.

I believe there are a couple of concerns and questions that need to be raised as to what formal action was taken by the Department of Personnel to investigate and respond when it was alleged that this employee misrepresented his formal background during a candidate selection procedure. How can the Union of Northern Workers possibly retain its credibility as an organization that is representative of public service employees when regional vice-presidents are not even required to work for the government?

Mr. Speaker, there is no doubt that many of my constituents are concerned and, as you are aware, I know that when matters like this occur...

My time is up, I seek unanimous consent to continue.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Thebacha is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please complete your statement, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 434

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you are aware, I know when matters like this occur in small centres or remote communities, impact on workplace relations and employee confidence can be much greater than people in Yellowknife might realize. On one hand, it creates turmoil and interpersonal strain within government operations, while on the other, it attempts to mediate the situation which risks being interpreted as interference in the operation of a legal and independent collective bargaining unit.

You know in many ways, Mr. Speaker, for an MLA, it becomes a no-win situation. For this reason, Mr. Speaker, I believe it requires further examination; particularly when this position was held to look after youths of our territory, and troubled youths. Therefore, I will be looking to the respective Ministers of our Cabinet to enquire and to take the necessary leadership to address this kind of situation.

However, in closing, Mr. Speaker, I want to reiterate what some of my constituents have told me. That they want me at the same time to compliment one of our northern news organizations, News/North services, for researching and reporting this matter in News/North, especially considering that our local newspaper, the Slave River Journal, has been ignoring the situation. Some of my constituents have even suggested that this may be due to the fact that the union office space is rented from the Slave River Journal owner. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 434

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark .

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Traditional Events In Taloyoak

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 434

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, during my visit to my region, mainly Taloyoak, I had the opportunity to talk to one of the local business people, Mr. Dennis Lyall. Mr. Lyall has indicated to me on two occasions that he wants to put together traditional events, which are slated for the early summer of 1995.

Mr. Speaker, such events are good for the community; it brings together different entertainers from outlying communities as well as from other regions. Mr. Speaker, cultural events are good, they are mentally healthy; physically healthy and culturally healthy, and, Mr. Speaker, it is God-given for people to get together in the spirit of goodwill. So I would urge the department which has the money to support such events to do so. At the appropriate time, I will be asking the Minister of Education, Culture and Communications for some possible funding for this event. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 434

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Nerysoo .

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Achievements Of NWT Athletes

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 434

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to have an opportunity to speak about a young man I think many of us know personally, at least I do. He's a young man who is setting what I consider is an example worthy of recognition. He's a young man from Yellowknife, actually, by the name of Jeremy Jaud. We pay great tribute to our athletes. Mr. Whitford , Member for Yellowknife South , spoke about our athletes at the Canada Winter Games. The chair of the Ordinary Members' Caucus spoke about the Koe curling team. Sometimes, Mr. Speaker, we have a tendency not to realize the importance of sports to the development of young people.

I wanted to rise to pay tribute to Jeremy Jaud, and not only for his character because I had an opportunity to be at the Canada Summer Games where I saw Jeremy Jaud and members of the Yellowknife Polar Bear Swim Club, who are the majority of the team, cheer on other athletes, whether they were playing volleyball, soccer or fastball.

For those who don't know and who didn't read the papers, from the 10th to the 12th of February at the 1995 Junior Nationals in Victoria, Jeremy took gold in the 100-metre freestyle, the 100-metre breaststroke, the 200-metre individual medley, the 200-relay, the 200 metre breaststroke; and, in the 400 metre relay, Jeremy and his team broke the old youth national record by a full two seconds.

Jeremy Jaud also won silver medals in the 200-metre freestyle, the 400-individual medley, the 200-backstroke and the 400-metre freestyle.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Mackenzie Delta is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Nerysoo .

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Page 435

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker and thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to make a point of raising this issue today because I think, oft-times we have a tendency of spreading bad news. Jeremy Jaud is giving the territories a chance to spread good news about things, about young people and the reason why determination and commitment is important for young people, whether it is in school, athletics or at work. A young man like this who, along with other athletes like Ron Gonzales of Hay River, Pinto Dragon of Fort Smith, and Kevin Koe of Inuvik/Yellowknife, set wonderful examples for our young.

I think we should always encourage young people to participate in athletics because it develops character, commitment and the desire to do better, whether or not they win. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Nerysoo . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ballantyne .

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Territorial Championships Of NWT Speedskating Association

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 435

Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to talk about young athletes, and Jeremy Jaud is a very impressive young athlete. I would like to talk about our speedskaters. This weekend, the NWT Speedskating Association is holding their territorial championships. There are 150 skaters involved in the Yellowknife club. They've been coached by very dedicated long-time coaches, Gay Kennedy and Dave McCann, who have been with the club for many, many years.

We also have a wave of the future. Three of the great young skaters in the club, Giny Wainwright, Dwight Pennington and Jamie Sanders are fantastic skaters and have taken certification courses with Sport North and are giving back to the sport, as coaches, so that the club continues. The Yellowknife Speedskating Club has held clinics in Igloolik, Fort Providence, Pangnirtung, Tuktoyaktuk, Norman Wells, Inuvik and in Aklavik. Last week, we had eight athletes at the Canada Winter Games

and everybody at the Winter Games were very impressed with the calibre of our athletes.

Speedskating is a wonderful sport for those who have ever seen it. Those kids skate like the wind. There are very simple rules: skate fast and turn left, at least that's what they tell me. It's a sport that can take place anywhere in the territories because all you really need is an arena, skates and a helmet. I understand that Pangnirtung is one example where it's really catching on and two kids from Pangnirtung are competing here at the championships. They are a really good bunch of kids and a good bunch of coaches, with tremendous camaraderie. I think the Yellowknife Speedskating Club is a great credit to the community.

The championships are being held at the Yellowknife Community Arena on Friday from 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm and on Saturday from 12:00 pm to 4:00 pm. Everybody is welcome. On behalf of the Legislative Assembly, I wish all the competitors well in the NWT championships. Thank you.

---Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ballantyne . Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Nerysoo .

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Further Return To Question 140-12(7): Funding Provided To Students At Lester B Pearson College

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 435

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Antoine on February 22nd with regard to funding provided to the students at Lester B. Pearson College. In the past, the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment supported one northern student a year to attend Lester B. Pearson College, through the payment of a two-year scholarship. The scholarship covered costs for tuition and room and board for this two-year program. In addition, the department also paid the transportation costs for NWT students.

Due to fiscal restraint, in 1993 the department informed Lester B. Pearson College that they would no longer be providing a scholarship for students to attend this program. The last student the department fully funded to attend was a student from Fort Smith, sponsored for the 1993-95 academic term. This year, the cost of tuition and room and board for the college is $19,000. The department did provide the college with a list of possible private sponsors, including land claim organizations, that might be willing to support NWT students.

I am pleased to inform you that, starting in 1994, Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated, in conjunction with Lester B. Pearson College, is supporting a student from Rankin Inlet to attend the program. I am also pleased to inform you that Lester B. Pearson, itself, is also offering a scholarship for one NWT student for each new two-year term. A Fort Simpson student is now receiving this scholarship for the 1994-96 term. In total, there are three NWT students now attending the college. A student from Fort Smith is in the second and last year of the program and the Fort Simpson and Rankin Inlet students are in the first year of their program.

I'm not aware of any letters sent to these students telling them that they would no longer be receiving scholarship funding to attend Lester B. Pearson college and I would appreciate receiving a copy of these letters so I can help resolve this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Page 436

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Dent .

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Question 223-12(7): Status Of Funding Cuts To Victims' Services Programs

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 436

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Justice . Mr. Speaker, several of the victims' services programs of the NWT have been able to tap into federal funding on a three-year term basis to augment the funding from this government. Without this funding, it is questionable whether many could have even operated. Is the Minister aware of any cuts to this federal funding as a result of the federal budget?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 436

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Justice , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 436

Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I have to take the question as notice. I have yet to receive the details of the implications of the federal budget to our specific programs. Thank you.

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Page 436

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. The question was taken as notice. Mr. Koe .

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Question 224-12(7): Clarification Of Statement In Budget Address

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 436

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the budget speech delivered on February 20, 1995, the Minister of Finance made a statement and I wish to quote that statement: "We are committed to treating our employees fairly and it is our intention to work cooperatively with the unions, be it at the bargaining table or in joint consultation, to determine the most effective means to reduce wage and benefits costs." What does the Minister mean by this statement?

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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Page 436

John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, I wanted to send a clear message to our employees, either through the NWTTA or the UNW, that we would bargain with them in good faith, whether it was creating workforce adjustment programs if any downsizing were to occur, or if it was concerning community transfer where jurisdictions are changing for certain employees. Most of all, Mr. Speaker, it was regarding the collective bargaining that has been going on and that we have asked for certain concessions from our employees through their union, the UNW.

I wanted to send a clear message that that would be done in good faith and that we were willing to cooperate and use the bargaining process properly and come to good arrangements with our unions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 436

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi. This particular statement that I quoted seems like a real paradox, Mr. Speaker. I am sure that the union is not as interested in reducing wages and benefits costs, as some Members of this government are. How are the negotiations between the UNW and this government proceeding?

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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Page 436

John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are no negotiations going on at the present time. We are looking and have exchanged names with regard to mediation and arbitration which is a course in the bargaining process.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Has an arbitrator or mediator been chosen yet?

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Not to my knowledge, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Final supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

When does the Minister expect that process to continue and expect a mediator to be chosen?

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

I can't give a specific date, Mr. Speaker, but I would hope that it will be occurring very soon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 436

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question 225-12(7): Procedures For Verifying GNWT Candidates' Credentials

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 436

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I commented earlier this morning in my Member's statement that many of my constituents in Fort Smith are

concerned about a matter involving a former government employee in Fort Smith. Public statements have been made suggesting that this individual falsely represented himself as having a higher education than he actually did. Since then, this employee has resigned from his position which is similar to a position of trust working with youth. Mr. Speaker, the seriousness of the matter is compounded by the fact he continues to retain a senior position on the union executive as the regional vice-president.

My question to the Minister of Personnel is what policies and procedures are in place to verify the information that candidates for government employment provide with respect to their education and training, which will reflect their proper credentials? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 437

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Personnel , Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I will take the question as notice.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The question was taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ballantyne .

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Question 226-12(7): Impact Of Federal Budget On Overlapping Responsibilities

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 437

Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Finance . A number of months ago, the Minister of Finance had meetings with the federal Minister Masse. The meetings were regarding the reconciliation of federal, provincial and territorial bureaucracies to try to end duplication and overlapping. What impact did the last federal budget have on these discussions?

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the responsibility for overlap and duplication rests with me, although the arrangements between governments are between the Prime Minister and the Premier across the country. The Premier assigned me to conclude the issue with Minister Masse and our first round has been concluded. Mr. Ballantyne raises a good point, Mr. Speaker. With the federal cutbacks that are going to occur in the federal government, already we have seen Mr. Todd suggest that there are some federal things that could be done to mitigate the effect of the cutback on the EDA.

There are all kinds of signs out there that we need to get together again with the federal government. Just last week, there was a letter from the Prime Minister to the Premier saying the first round was over. We will be now be looking at what we can suggest for the second round. I would like to get more information on the budget first, but sometime in the next 30 days, I will be drafting a letter for the Premier to send to the Prime Minister to instruct Minister Masse to get back to me, so we can look at the impact of the federal government cutbacks on the NWT and see if there are some efficiencies that we can gain. At the same time, we need to mitigate some of those cutbacks upon us.

We need to see if we have too much administration and whether we can cooperate with the federal government. That is what we intend to do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Ballantyne .

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for that information. In the letter and subsequent discussion with Minister Masse, could the Minister outline the concern that if the federal government continues to cut back all their programs, at the end of the day, there is going to be nothing to harmonize. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Indeed, Mr. Speaker, those issues will be pointed out. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 437

Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Another area that I would ask the Minister and the Premier to explore -- and I would ask they include this area in the letter and discussion -- is DIAND. DIAND was relatively unscathed through the last budget. We are not sure over the next five or six years if the northern side of DIAND will remain unscathed. It seems that that is one area where there is a lot of duplication between what they do and what we do. Would the Minister specifically look at DIAND and see if there are areas in DIAND that could be better done by us or if there could be some harmonization between what DIAND does and what we do in the Northwest Territories.

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Mr. Pollard .

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Hay River

Yes, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Question 227-12(7): Status Of Corrections Strategy And Facilities Plan

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 437

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Justice . In last fall's capital Budget Address, the Minister of Finance stated that the Department of Justice was preparing a continuation plan to implement a correctional facilities plan. Again, in the recent budget speech, the Minister of Finance made reference to the corrections plan. My question to the Minister of Justice is what is the status of the corrections strategy and facilities plan?

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Samuel Gargan

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The commitment that we made is that before the end of this session, a fully detailed plan will be presented to this Legislature. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

There has been a lot of talk about putting emphasis on community corrections. What initiatives are under way in the department to prepare communities to develop community corrections programs?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have written to communities, asking those communities that are interested to put forward proposals on how they would envisage community correctional facilities being provided and developed by them, should we be able to find the money and the capability to assist them in making that happen. We have received some proposals which are presently being reviewed in anticipation that we will have some definite money to follow up our plans. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There have been advertisements out for proposals, as the Minister mentioned, for community corrections programs or youth facilities. When does the Minister envisage implementing some of these programs?

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Stephen Kakfwi

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the department is presently reviewing the proposals that communities have sent in and will be coming forward with some recommendations to me about how we should proceed. Again, it's one of those initiatives where we give a great deal of leeway to communities to come forward with their own ideas of how...(Microphone turned off)...look at them. The department will come forward with some recommendations to me on how we should proceed. All this is awaiting some definite financial commitments from our government once we are able to decide how and where that money should come from. Thank you.

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Question 228-12(7): Purpose Of Condition Rating GNWT Staff Housing

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 438

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of DPW. On my last constituency visit, I met with the GNWT staff, mainly with the teachers to deal with their request, along with DPW staff from the region. The outcome of our meeting was generally satisfactory; however, I still have some concerns.

The houses that cause me concern are more than two decades old and are in poor shape. Condition ratings were done shortly after the implementation of the housing strategy more than three years ago. What was the purpose of condition rating GNWT staff houses in level II and III communities?

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of DPW, Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, we were assessing the condition those particular units were in. I know the problem that the Member is raising. It has been brought to my attention, and I have asked the department to go in there again and look at these units that are causing the problem and give me a full report. So there is going to be an update on that condition rating, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Ms. Mike , supplementary.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe the honourable Minister did not answer my question. I wanted to know what was the purpose of the condition rating on GNWT staff houses.

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John Pollard

Hay River

We wanted to find out what condition they were in so we could make plans on what would happen with those units; whether or not we put a lot of money into the units, whether we dispose of the units or whether they have to be written off. We needed to know at that time what we were looking at for the condition of those particular units, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understood in his first response that he will get a full report on these units that I'm talking about, as to what condition they're in. Does this mean that the condition rating will be done again?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I've received specific complaints from people in Pangnirtung about some of the units that they're living in at the present time. I was concerned about some of those complaints, and I've asked for an assessment of those particular units. So I will have a better idea of what condition the unit is in and whether or not the maintenance has been done. It may even come back and tell me whether or not it's worth doing any more maintenance on those particular units, Mr. Speaker. From that report, I'll decide on what course of action to follow after that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Final supplementary, Ms. Mike .

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It has been more than three years since the housing strategy was implemented. My understanding of the condition rating, as Mr. Pollard put it, is to assess what shape they're in. However, three years has gone by and nothing has been done to a lot of these units. From what I am told from the region, it's because there is nothing available to either make any repairs or to do any retrofit if that's what must be done. Will the Minister assure me, after he receives the report on the condition of these units, that everything will be done, that he locate some funds to at least bring these staff housing units to substandard condition? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I want to find out what those units are like and get an assessment of what is the most economic way to either fix them or give me some outlook on what we can do with those particular units. I can't commit that we're going to refurbish those houses, but I can commit to the Member that as soon as I get that report back, I'll sit down with her and go over the report and we'll decide on a course of action. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

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Question 229-12(7): Funding For Traditional Events

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 439

John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I indicated earlier in my Member's statement the plan of Taloyoak people to have a cultural event some time in the early summer. This may be preliminary at this stage. As I also indicated, it is God-given to enjoy life in a spirit of goodwill. It promotes the future young artists in the field of music, Mr. Speaker. It enhances the cultural identities of the specific group in this area. My question is to the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment . Could the honourable Minister provide me with information on what is available to support such events in terms of finances? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I don't have all the information of all the programs available, but I will commit to the honourable Member, through writing, that I will advise him of all the programs that are available and, in fact, Mr. Speaker, I will even commit to writing and having the departmental staff in Cambridge Bay work with the people to whom he is referring so that they may fill out the appropriate forms so that they can be considered for accessing resources which are available in the department. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the honourable Minister. Would the honourable Minister assure me that he will take action, at the first opportunity, with his staff? Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will certainly take this issue along with some of the other issues the honourable Member has raised from his particular constituency, and we will see if we can combine them and try to address them collectively, maybe with a visit of the staff to that particular area. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question 230-12(7): Investigation Of Fort Smith Unw Regional Vice-president

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 439

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Justice . Mr. Speaker, the Minister should be aware of public statements that the regional vice-president of the Union of Northern Workers falsified information provided on his resume when he was being considered as a candidate for a treatment position in Fort Smith working with youths. I would like to ask the Minister if he can indicate whether there has been a formal investigation of this matter; with a view to determining if formal legal action should be taken in the event of deliberate or fraudulent misrepresentation of employee information. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 439

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Justice , Mr. Kakfwi .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I think that question should be more appropriately referred to the Honourable John Pollard .

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, there are a number of departments involved in this one. Our department, Financial Management Board Secretariat, was the lead department, and it may eventually have to be turned over to somebody else, but in the meantime, Mr. Speaker, I will take the question as notice. Thank you.

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Question 230-12(7): Investigation Of Fort Smith Unw Regional Vice-president

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. (Translation) Today I would like to recognize some people in the gallery. They are from overseas, the Soviet Union, now called Russia. When I look back to 1972 when Canada and the Soviet Union played hockey, the Canada Cup series, I recognize the names of some of the players, but the names of the guests we have in the gallery right now are very difficult to pronounce. I would like to try to say their names today. I might not be able to say them well enough but I will try. (Translation ends) Mr. Bremey Aipin.

---Applause

Mr. Aipin is the deputy chairman of the Committee on Aboriginal Affairs in Russia's Parliament. He is also the president of the association of aboriginal minorities in the north, Siberia and far east of the Russian Federation. So that is Bremey Aipin.

---Applause

The next gentleman is Ivan Ledkov.

---Applause

He is the deputy of the Legislative Assembly of the Okrug region. He is also the deputy chairman of the legislative committee.

The next person is a lady by the name of Elena Mal'steva.

---Applause

She is the medical doctor responsible for regional hospitals.

The other person is Vladimir Kryazhkov.

---Applause

He is a professor of law. I hope I pronounced your names correctly. I apologize if I didn't. Welcome to the Assembly.

---Applause

Also, just to remind Members, you will have an opportunity to meet with that delegation this afternoon.

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Pudluk .

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Question 231-12(7): Polar Bear Survey Near Resolute Bay

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

(Translation) I would like to thank the Minister of Renewable Resources for having been able to visit my community. I apologize for not being able to be with him when he was in Grise Fiord. He met with hunters and trappers in Resolute and they talked about polar bear hunting. There is going to be a survey done near my community of Resolute Bay with regard to polar bears. The study will be to find out if there are enough polar bears left in my region. I would like to ask what other survey will be done during this time. Is there going to be another survey with regard to polar bears done? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Arngna'naaq .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was glad to visit my honourable colleague's communities. I felt welcome when I visited these communities. We had successful meetings and we discussed a possible survey that would be done with regard to polar bears. At the same time, we were able to consult with local people to find out their problems and this was through questions that were raised in the community visits. The survey that will be done in the spring is with regard to counting the polar bears around the Resolute Bay area; in particular, they are going to be counting the numbers of polar bears in the High Arctic region. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Dent .

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Question 232-12(7): Status Of Bip Consultation Report

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Public Works and Services . Mr. Speaker, the department has been undertaking some consultation and review of the business incentive policy. I know there has been a fair bit of concern expressed over the consultation process because in many situations, there were no departmental officials present. I was wondering if the Minister could advise if the consultants have provided their report of these consultations to the department yet?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Government Services and Public Works, Mr. Pollard .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

John Pollard

Hay River

We anticipate that a report will be made to Cabinet by March 31, 1995, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Dent .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 440

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Supplementary, Mr. Speaker, to the same Minister. Could the Minister advise whether or not changes are expected to be made to the BIP for this spring's tendering?

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Pollard .

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Page 441

John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I think there may be one more step in the process and I should be honest about it. That is, I made a commitment to Mr. Ballantyne earlier this session that if there were people who wanted to meet with me -- and I think there were some people from Yellowknife -- with regard to the BIP, that I would do so. That's one thing that I have made a commitment to do, if necessary.

I don't know what the recommendations are going to be yet, Mr. Speaker, but I can tell you that it's my feeling that there may have to be some changes to the BIP suggested to Cabinet, certainly, by the first two weeks of April, which may influence tenders that are let after that particular date, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Supplementary, Mr. Dent .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister just indicated that he thought changes might have to be made by the first two weeks in April to the policy. Given that the consultant's report to Cabinet isn't expected before the end of March, that obviously doesn't leave any time for the review of the changes by the contractors in the Northwest Territories. Is the Minister now saying that contractors will not have a chance to comment on the revised BIP before it is actually put in place?

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Pollard .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

John Pollard

Hay River

No, I'm not saying that, Mr. Speaker. I'm saying that changes may be suggested to Cabinet, changes that they may wish to put in place. If that is the case, then we'll ask the construction people, the companies and so forth, what they feel about it. But, if some of those changes are ones that companies in the Northwest Territories have been asking for, I wouldn't see that they are going to be totally upset with them. I stress again that it may be that we suggest changes to Cabinet, but it wouldn't be carte blanche, this is what we're doing. We'll advise people and let them know what the changes are. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Page 441

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Allooloo .

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Question 233-12(7): Summer Student Employment Program

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Premier or to the Finance Minister . I understand that through the summer student employment program communities are given opportunities to hire students. Unfortunately, when the GNWT hires students, because of the union scale, they have to pay students $18 per hour while local businesses and housing associations' student rates are $7.50 per hour. Because of the high hourly rate that the government pays, they seem to run out of money very fast because they don't allocate a lot of money into that program.

I wonder if the government is willing to contract that service out to private companies and housing associations so that money could be spread out over a longer period of time and more students could be hired in the summer so that more people benefit from the program. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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Question 233-12(7): Summer Student Employment Program

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I'll consult with Mr. Nerysoo on this matter and get back to the Member. I'll take the question as notice. Thank you.

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Question 233-12(7): Summer Student Employment Program

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The question has been taken as notice. Item 6, oral questions. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Question 234-12(7): Source Of Funding For Minister Morin's Lawsuit

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Premier . Mr. Speaker, as Members in this House are undoubtedly aware, a Minister of this government is suing me, alleging that I have defamed him. The statement of claim alleges that the Minister in question has been greatly injured and: "His office, as a Minister of the Crown, has been brought into public scandal, ridicule and contempt." Mr. Speaker, I don't wish to get into the merits of the lawsuit against me. I am, however, concerned that the Minister in question has brought into the lawsuit the issue of damage to him as a Minister.

Because of this reference to the Minister's office, can the Premier advise me whether the government is financing this lawsuit? Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the government is not financing the lawsuit. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm glad to hear that. Given the fact that a Minister of the government is suing me, in my capacity as a Member, I would like to ask the Premier how can this government assure me that the interests of my constituents will not be affected by decisions that are made by the Minister in his capacity as Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation . Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Madam Premier .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 441

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I am aware that the concern has been raised. I have, at this time, no evidence whatsoever that the Minister, in his capacity, will act in a negative way towards the honourable Member's constituency. Thank you.

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Page 442

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Koe .

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Question 235-12(7): Initiatives To Restructure Liquor Commission Mark-ups

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 442

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. In the government's recent Budget Address, the Minister of Finance mentioned some revenue initiatives. One of these initiatives is, and I quote: "The structure of the mark-ups charged by the Liquor Commission will be revised." My question is to the Minister of Public Services, what initiatives will he be taking when changing the structure of mark-ups charged by the Liquor Commission?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 442

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 442

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The intention is that the lower-priced products will increase while higher-priced products will decrease. Mr. Speaker, for 1993-94, the flat mark-up would be: spirits, $19.96; wine, $6.05; beer, $1.52; and, coolers, $1.60.

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Page 442

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 442

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you. I assume those are percentages, but it wasn't very clear what the mark-ups were. One of the other revenue initiatives in his speech was that liquor licensing fees and import fees will be increased. Can the Minister advise us when these fees will be increased?

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Nerysoo .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 442

Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just so that I will be clear, the pricing that I was talking about were prices based on dollar values. The flat-rate mark-up was determined for spirits to be $19.96 per litre; for beer it was $1.52 per litre; wine is $6.05 per litre; and, coolers are $1.62 per litre. The mark-up rates will be implemented on April 1, 1995.

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