Debates of Feb. 9th, 2012

This is page numbers 291 - 320 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was work .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 6-17(2):

An Act To Amend The Borrowing Authorization Act

Minister’s Statement 7-17(2): Update On Barren Ground Caribou Management

Minister’s Statement 8-17(2): Apprenticeship And Occupational Certification

Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre In Aklavik

Northwest Territories Fishing Industry

Terminal Illness Compassionate Travel Policy

Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

Breakfast For Learning Program

Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

Edmonton Airport Options

Funding And Support For The Voluntary Sector

Procurement Guidelines Relating To Giant Mine Bypass Project

Procurement Guidelines Relating To Hay River Construction Projects

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

Support For NWT Fishing Industry

Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

Terminal Illness Compassionate Travel

Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

Review Of Business Incentive Policy

Caribou Outfitters

Diabetes Programs In The Sahtu

Written Question 1-17(2): Diabetes Rates Among Sahtu Residents

Tabled Document 9-17(2): Workers’ Safety And Compensation Commission 2012 Corporate Plan

Tabled Document 10-17(2): Buying A Condominium: A User’s Guide Tabled Document 11-17(2): Owning A Condominium: A User’s Guide

Bill 1:

An Act To Amend The Borrowing Authorization Act

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Resume Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-2013

Defer Consideration Of Item No. 11, Department Of Transportation, Interim Appropriation 2012-2013

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:32 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Finance , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister’s Statement 6-17(2):

An Act To Amend The Borrowing Authorization Act

Ministers’ Statements

Thebacha

Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Mr. Speaker, later this session I will be presenting Bill 1,

An Act to Amend the Borrowing Authorization Act. The purpose of this act is to increase the short-term authority to borrow provided in

section 1(2) of the act from $175 million to $275 million.

This should not be confused with the federally set borrowing limit of $575 million. The Government of the Northwest Territories continues to discuss an increase to that limit with the federal Finance Minister so we will have more flexibility to invest in the long term. We have recently received a letter from Minister Flaherty assuring us that the federal government recognizes the importance of a timely resolution to the borrowing limit issue so that we can move forward with our fiscal planning and infrastructure investments.

However, we also have to do a little housekeeping of our own with respect to our short-term borrowing authority. The Borrowing Authorization Act gives the GNWT the authority to borrow up to $175 million over the short term. This allows the GNWT to manage its cash. This limit has remained the same for over 17 years while government operations and revenues have increased. As a result, the GNWT’s flexibility to properly manage cash resources has eroded over time.

Increasing the limit will make it easier to manage cash, especially if new infrastructure programs are announced by the federal government in the next three or four years. The GNWT will need to ensure that any borrowing under the Borrowing Authorization Act will still fit within the overall limit

provide by the federal government under the Northwest Territories Act (Canada).

There is some urgency to the proposed increase because we need to make a $65 million corporate income repayment on March 31

st that relates to an

overpayment of corporate income tax from the 2007 tax year. In a sense, the $65 million represents an interest-free loan from Canada that has come due and as a result will cause the GNWT to exceed its current short-term borrowing limit when the repayment is made on March 31

st . The following

day, April 1

st , the GNWT will once again be within

the current limit when it receives the first Territorial Formula Financing payment for 2012-13. This brief moment of being over the current limit is why we will be proposing introduction and passage of the amendment during the February 2012 sitting of the Legislative Assembly.

Although this proposal increases the short-term borrowing limit, the GNWT will, under its current fiscal strategy, start to recoup cash resources over the next few years and actual short-term borrowing requirements will therefore start to decrease. The increase will restore flexibility in our cash management and will not affect the GNWT’s credit rating or factor into the discussions we are having with the federal government on the federally imposed borrowing limit. Thank you.

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Minister’s Statement 6-17(2):

An Act To Amend The Borrowing Authorization Act

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister of Energy Mines and Resources.

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Minister’s Statement 7-17(2): Update On Barren Ground Caribou Management

Ministers’ Statements

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, the sacrifices of the barren ground caribou harvesters during the past several years have not been in vain.

Recent surveys indicate the Porcupine herd has increased from an estimated 123,000 animals in 2001 to 169,000 in 2010. The population estimate of the Bluenose-East herd has increased from 65,100 animals in 2006 to 98,600 animals in 2010.

Recent surveys point towards a stabilization of the Cape Bathurst and Bluenose-West herds, though overall numbers remain very low.

Reconnaissance surveys on the calving ground of the Ahiak herd in 2011 suggest that the herd is also stable but we are waiting for final results from the Government of Nunavut.

Preliminary results from last April’s recruitment survey of the Bathurst herd show a 46 to 100 calf/cow ratio which is considered good and suggests that this herd has also stabilized. A similar survey done on the Bluenose-East herd indicates a 41 to 100 calf/cow ratio which is considered normal.

These are positive signs but we need to conduct population surveys to give us more concrete information on the status of these herds. Population surveys are therefore planned for the Cape Bathurst, Bluenose-West, Bluenose-East and Bathurst herds this summer.

While good information on the status of the herds is an important part of management, so too is planning. The Department of Environment and Natural Resources is working with our co-management partners and stakeholders to develop caribou management plans for all the NWT herds.

A Draft Cape Bathurst, Bluenose-West and Bluenose-East Caribou Management Plan is in the final stages of public review, with final comments due by the end of this month. We are also engaging our co-management partners in developing a management plan for the Bathurst Caribou herd, with a goal of having a final plan this fall.

The results of this year’s population surveys will be provided to our co-management partners and the public in the fall once the analysis has been completed.

The results of the surveys, the guidance provided by the management plans and recommendations on herd harvest levels from the wildlife management boards will allow us to re-examine current limitations on barren ground caribou harvesting.

All harvesters in the Northwest Territories have made sacrifices during the past seven or eight years. In the Beaufort-Delta, all harvest was suspended. Resident and non-resident harvesting was suspended in the rest of the territory while Aboriginal hunters limited their harvest substantially to help these herds recover.

The reduction in harvest has helped these herds to stabilize and, in some cases, increase. I thank everyone for their sacrifices and their commitment to maintaining healthy and sustainable barren ground caribou populations for current and future generations. I also look forward to ongoing collaboration and cooperation between everyone involved in the management of this important species. Thank you.

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Minister’s Statement 7-17(2): Update On Barren Ground Caribou Management

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment .

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Minister’s Statement 8-17(2): Apprenticeship And Occupational Certification

Ministers’ Statements

Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment

Mr. Speaker, this government promotes the importance of trained and certified skilled journeypersons. We encourage our youth to consider skilled trades as a great career choice, and we celebrate the success of our apprentices and journeypersons.

Every year the Northwest Territories dedicates a week to those in the skilled trades and occupations. This year, Apprenticeship and Occupational Certification Week is scheduled for February 6

th to

th . Each regional ECE Service Centre will host

Apprenticeship and Occupational Certification Award ceremonies for the 37 top mark awards achieved by our northern apprentices. Mr. Speaker, we thank our many partners and, particularly, northern employers. Without them, apprenticeship programs in our territory would not exist.

The Department of Education, Culture and Employment commits funding to apprenticeship for both technical training for tuition and related training expenses, and job wage subsidies that assist employers in the Northwest Territories with their apprentices’ wages.

From September to December 2011, the department issued 23 certificates of qualifications and eight certificates of competence to journeypersons in the Northwest Territories. Today there are 421 apprentices in the Northwest Territories. More than half of these apprentices are Aboriginal, but we still need more people in the skilled trades and occupations.

The vision for the 17

th Assembly, believing in

people and building on the strengths of Northerners, is the cornerstone of our apprenticeship and occupational trades program. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister’s Statement 8-17(2): Apprenticeship And Occupational Certification

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre In Aklavik

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is almost a year since the government closed the Joe Greenland Centre in Aklavik to elders who cannot live independently. Now there is a lineup of elders waiting to go to the facility in Inuvik which serves the entire Beaufort-Delta region. I am not convinced

that the Inuvik facility can handle all the elders who need care. I am not convinced that sending the elders to Inuvik from the communities is the best way to care for them.

In my riding alone of the Mackenzie Delta there are more than 300 elders over the age of 60. They wonder what will happen to them if they can no longer take care of themselves.

In Fort McPherson and Tsiigehtchic there’s only one home care worker in each community. Even if they can’t stay at home, the elders themselves would rather live in one of the delta communities instead of Inuvik. That is because family and friends visit regularly and bring traditional food.

The Joe Greenland Centre is part of the social and cultural fabric of the delta. The community of Aklavik is proud of its role in taking care of our elders.

Members of the 16

th Legislative Assembly agreed a

year ago, they passed a motion to continue providing long-term care for elders at the Joe Greenland Centre. I know that our Health Minister supported that during the last Assembly when he was a Regular Member. For all these reasons I am asking the Health Minister to reverse his department’s decision to end long-term care at the Joe Greenland Centre. I believe the current building can be renovated to meet the necessary standards, but if this is not possible, a new facility should be built.

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Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre In Aklavik

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Northwest Territories Fishing Industry

Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As many of you know, Hay River is known for its long-standing history of fishing industry in the community. The industry is at one of its weakest points. The industry has many issues such as the price per pound that they can get for their catch, the price of gasoline and the limited amount of youth that want to work in that harsh of an industry.

One of the issues that has been debated is the marketing of northern fish, whether it be to the Fresh Water Marketing Corporation. Where else can we sell the fish that they catch in Hay River and the Great Slave Lake for the best dollar?

One area that I would like to open up to the fishermen is the NWT border. In today’s economy with free trade, NAFTA, demands from provinces to open the borders to every province and territory, and even Europe wanting free trade, but the NWT fishermen cannot sell their fish to other provincial customers.

My questions today will be for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment to open our borders for the fishing industry. We don’t need to teach these people how to fish; we just need the NWT government to give the fishing industry a fighting chance.

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Northwest Territories Fishing Industry

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Terminal Illness Compassionate Travel Policy

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When the Minister of Health and I did a tour in the Sahtu, we listened to the people in our communities of the Sahtu. One of the things that we heard was that people talked about cancer, people who are dying or have died of terminal illness, and they talked about a government compassion policy to help people at their last stages of their life. People talked about one of the hardest things they have encountered was when they take their family and loved ones to the airport not knowing if that would be the last time they’re going to see them. If there’s any type of policy in the government to help them be with their loved ones.

With the policy right now, we have to argue with the administrative medical travel to see if they fit the requirements. We asked if this government here could look at a policy that would be a compassionate policy that would support family members to travel either to Inuvik or to Yellowknife or even further south to be with their loved ones in their last dying days on this land here. The people talked about how hard it is. Sometimes they have to argue with government administrative offices to let them get on either as an escort, or they create some other barriers that just frustrates the people in our communities to travel with their loved ones.

What happens is that people go back to a time in history where a lot of our people went to Edmonton under the TB sickness and they have never seen their loved ones come back north. A lot of them are buried in the South. Today people are still talking about that, so it gets to be very emotional.

I want to ask the Minister later on what type of compassion policy the department has with people who have terminal disease and someone is dying, and what the family can do to help, and more importantly, how can the government help our people get down there on time with the people and stay with them. Thank you.

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Terminal Illness Compassionate Travel Policy

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Colleagues, before we go on, I’d like to welcome long-time past Member Mr. David Krutko, a former Speaker, Minister and long-time serving Member for the Mackenzie Delta . Welcome.

---Applause

The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our overall approach to development of a secondary diamond manufacturing industry has missed the opportunity to tap into the amazing artistry of our people. By pouring millions into a northern diamond cutting and polishing industry, we’ve gone head to head with global producers. Their competitive advantage of rock-bottom wage rates and established expertise has proven difficult to beat. In contrast, we have a strong local, regional and national market for art, foreign tourists looking for northern-made, authentic NWT souvenirs and a motherlode of talented but untapped artists to fill the demand.

Any cursory survey of our current artistic production – our painting, sculpting, fine crafts and designs – confirms the cadre of artistic talents equal to any on the globe. That’s our competitive advantage.

What’s been lacking is training in the skills and techniques of creating fine jewellery. Nunavut provides a successful example of combining northern skills with training in attractive silver and gold jewellery making. We see these beautiful products today in Arctic Co-operatives and other outlets. What we want to do is combine the proven artistic design talents of our unique northern artisans with the technical know-how to produce quality jewellery with a volume that modern technology allows.

I have no doubt that when unleashed with appropriate support, this product would develop a strong value-added market to our territorial and polar bear diamonds. We know that the diamond polishing route has been problematic. Let’s respond and add the magic ingredient of our artists’ vision.

One local highly successful producer of jewellery has been recognizing this opportunity and suggesting such training for years, and could provide some of the required training. Given that one of our diamond mines is a partnership with one of the world’s prestigious jewellery producers, perhaps arrangements for local benefits could include access to these skills through training.

What I’m talking about is playing to strength, Mr. Speaker. Our artists’ endless creativity and a northern artistic motif found nowhere else in the world; these are our strengths. As we enter into the business planning for our future ITI programs, I’ll be looking for innovative support of this fertile sector and I’ll be asking the Minister for his ideas on how we can make this happen. Mahsi.

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Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Breakfast For Learning Program

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Breakfast for Learning program plays an important role in helping our children succeed in school, and I’m pleased that this government recognized them with a gift of $5,000 following the most recent Governor General’s visit.

Breakfast for Learning provides grants and support for school-based breakfast, lunch and snack programs. Last year Breakfast for Learning provided grants to 47 of the 49 schools in the Northwest Territories. More than half the students in the NWT had access to these nutrition programs on a daily basis.

When students are hungry, it is hard to learn. Nutrition impacts the student’s ability to focus. It impacts their levels of fatigue. It impacts their classroom behaviour, their self-esteem and their classroom attitude. But most of all it impacts their health and their school attendance. We know that education opens doors, but the first step is to open the door to the schools and the classrooms.

This government is working hard to increase the schools’ attendance and graduation rates. School meal and snack programs not only encourage students to get to school but they also help them learn once they are there.

Corporate donations and non-government agencies are keeping snack and breakfast programs running in our communities. By collaborating with organizations like Breakfast for Learning, we can maximize our efforts in supporting students. There currently exist a significant number of stakeholders that share a common desire to ensure that our children are well nourished and ready to learn.

We now need to solidify our collective efforts and establish shared goals and objectives while building on existing infrastructure and valuing work that has already been done.

Mr. Speaker, it is disheartening that in Canada one in 10 children and one in four First Nation children live below the poverty line. Those are national statistics and not NWT statistics. This places them at a risk for hunger and for food and security. At the same time, more than one in four children and youth in Canada are overweight and obese. While pairing hunger and obesity may sound like a contradiction, their impact is similarly devastating. The immediate and long-term consequences of childhood hunger plus overweight and obesity affect both the academic performance and the health of children.

Mr. Speaker, at this time may I seek unanimous consent to conclude my Member’s statement? Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Breakfast For Learning Program

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. Consequences range from inability to focus in school to behavioural issues. Combine these with the health conditions that were previously seen almost exclusively among adults but are now seen in children, such as high blood pressure, Type 2 Diabetes, high cholesterol and sleep apnea are all leading to a preventable health crisis, something that we can address here in the Legislative Assembly in this government.

Recognizing the importance that nutrition plays in educating our children, we need to look for ways that we can ensure that children in our territory have daily access to healthy foods. School meal and snack programs are effective and measurable in this regard. Schools readily recognize the impact that hunger and poor choices have on learning, yet schools are forced to cobble together meal and snack programs, taxing already overburdened school staff to plan, shop for and prepare as well as serve the food. On top of this, schools are constantly having to source funds for these much needed programs.

Breakfast for Learning has been providing funding to the support of NWT schools since its inception in 1992. They are well recognized as leaders in the field of school nutrition. I am proud that our government brought public recognition to the work that they do. However, we must find additional ways to support their work and, by extension, school nutrition. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Breakfast For Learning Program

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to speak about the environment and the concerns of Fisherman Lake near Fort Liard. There is a difference between monitoring and remediation, just like there is a difference between a lake and a tailings pond. I have some concerns about the contamination of Fisherman Lake in the Pointed Mountain Gas Field near Fort Liard. This lake provides for seven families of Fort Liard. They have been there for generations. Groundwater, surface water and soil in the Fisherman Lake area, only 20 kilometres north of the hamlet, is contaminated after years of oil and gas activity, but remediation efforts seem sluggish.

Fisherman Lake has a long history of water quality concerns. Production drilling in the Pointed Mountain Gas Field started in the mid-1960s. The property has had various owners, the most recent being Apache Canada that took over from BP in 2010. Ten years ago the field was shut in after three flow line failures. Shortly afterwards, the wells were abandoned and the pipelines removed, but

surface and groundwater naturally flows towards Fisherman Lake.

Residents have noticed changes in the water and the fish five years after the spill. The environmental site assessment found high levels of solidity, hydrocarbons and metals. Last summer Canadian Forest Oil re-entered two abandoned wells that test for gas reserves. Companies must submit waste disposal and remediation plans before the federal government can permit drilling. What are these plans? How are they being implemented and who will cover that cost? Annual site reporting, testing and inspection took place as recently as last fall as required in the existing land use plan, but BP Canada only authorized Apache to work under its land use and the plan expires in June of 2012, this year.

I understand that until we negotiate a strong Devolution Agreement, ENR can only take limited action to clean up Fisherman Lake. I urge the Department of Environment and Natural Resources to forward concerns about responsible remediation to federal regulators. Responsibility for land use plans must be clear to all stakeholders. Everyone has a role in being stewards to our land and resources and I will be asking the Minister questions on this topic at the appropriate time, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Edmonton Airport Options

Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Edmonton City Centre Airport is still facing closure, which will impact our medevac flights here from the North, but there is a viable alternative on the horizon. A well-known Edmonton city airport known as the Muni is facing closure, but the Province of Alberta has been working closely with the federal government to come up with a solution of using the old Edmonton Garrison airstrip, which is seven kilometres north of the city of Edmonton. The National Defence runway is located on a good transportation route, which connects to the Anthony Henday road, which rings it right into the centre of Edmonton.

Early indications say that this Garrison airstrip may be a cheaper, more practical solution for air carriers that are flying to Edmonton on medevac flights. Clearly, the option of flying into the Edmonton Garrison clearly warrants more investigation. At the same time, I’d like to hear our government taking a lead role in supporting this initiative.

The Edmonton Garrison may not be as close as the Muni Airport, but darn near close is considered a viable option. Yellowknife has had a close relationship with Edmonton over the years when it

comes to our medevacs. Last year Mayor Mandel came to the North on an invitation I had given him. I’ve spoken to Envision Edmonton, as well as many others. A lot of people want viable solutions for an airport there that provides good access. Hundreds of patients come from the North; they travel to that city every year, many with life-threatening conditions. The fact is every minute counts. So, safe, fast and effective medevac flights are critical when it comes to health care services.

May I remind the Minister of Health that medevacs are only one part of the continuum of health when it comes to this solution. We must look at the whole process as one problem and break it down to elements to see where we can help on all fronts of our medevac process.

Later today I will be urging the Health Minister to stay on top of this particular situation. I need to see that he is taking an active role and dialogue with the Province of Alberta, working to hopefully get the solution of the Edmonton Garrison once and for all to make sure that all Northerners who have to fly south on medevacs have a safe and reliable airport to land in, and clear access to good medical services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Edmonton Airport Options

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Funding And Support For The Voluntary Sector

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the GNWT departments are developing their business plans right now, I want to comment today on the importance of volunteers and volunteer groups, and I want to comment on the need for adequate funding for this most valuable human resource.

The GNWT seems to recognize the value of volunteers. We had a 2005 Declaration on Volunteering and a Volunteer Support Initiative. We all recognize the importance of volunteers, at least we should. The work of Northerners in the voluntary sector touches us daily. Volunteers and volunteer groups build communities through their work with community radio stations, carnivals, seniors, disability and youth groups, school councils, food banks, advocacy groups, churches, friendship centres, cultural activities, sporting events, daycares and many other services and programs that improve our lives.

Unfortunately though, our own government pays little more than lip service to the role of volunteers and the people in the voluntary sector. The GNWT has only two programs that focus on or support volunteers. One is the annual Outstanding Volunteer Awards, four of them, and the other is the Volunteer Organization Development Fund that provides funding for training up to $4,000 per

organization. What the GNWT does not do is provide for coordinated umbrella support for NWT volunteers.

In 2008 when the federal government cut volunteer funding to provinces and territories, this government did not fill that financial void and Volunteer NWT ceased operations. Since 2008 no one has carried out the activities that Volunteer NWT used to do.

Contrast our commitment to that of the Yukon. Volunteer Yukon is alive and well, and has a long history of providing training services. It’s Volunteer Yukon that provides public seminars and workshops on board roles and responsibilities, financial management, strategic planning, liability and risk management, and volunteer management. Their volunteer training fund allows individual organizations in Yukon’s non-profit sector to hire their own trainer. Volunteer Yukon annually receives $67,000 as core funding, funding which allows them to hire a part-time executive director.

As well, Volunteer Yukon gets $50,000 annually for programs and that’s almost twice as much funding as the NWT, but it allows oh so much more support for non-profit organizations.

I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Here in the NWT we also provide money for training purposes. What is missing is the core funding which would allow for enhanced training and centralized help for volunteers. Our hundreds of volunteers deserve the financial commitment to match our verbal commitment. I expect MACA’s 2012-2013 business plan to include core funding for Volunteer NWT to show our commitment.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Procurement Guidelines Relating To Giant Mine Bypass Project

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will attest that this will not be the last time that I will be discussing this topic during my term in office. This topic is how this government has and is dealing with its procurement guidelines, negotiated contracts and sole-sourcing arrangements. What makes this so bitterly sweet is that my questions later today are for the very Minister whom not that long ago was the MLA champion of such nonsense, but we’ll come back to that in a couple of minutes.

It’s come to my attention via some very concerned businesses in my riding and the riding of Kam Lake that the Department of Transportation has entered into some preliminary negotiations with a group of proponents for the contract of the Giant Mine

Bypass Road Project. What’s interesting is that this project was being fast-tracked and only recently, due to some pressure by some of the businesses not invited to the dance, has now gone back to the department and Minister for option consideration. I find that interesting.

Is it wrong for a business to be considered for a project? Is it wrong for a business to ask for an opportunity to do business for the public with the use of public funds and a transparent environment? We think not. I think the proper phrase people use here is opportunity, not exclusivity, as it pertains to one being faced against a negotiated or sole-sourced situation; a situation that happens all too often in the history of past Assemblies.

In the end I can stand here and quote the various passages in the GNWT procurement guidelines and procedures manual or I can use fancy terminology like negotiated contract, which really means sole-sourcing, or terms like building competitive capacity, which I think should be called government market disruption program. I won’t stand here and regurgitate such a leading and misunderstood contracting process.

Instead I wish to leave the Members here today with a statement, one of many statements that repeated itself countless times in Hansard and one that one could really not tally up, and a statement that might seem very familiar to a certain Minister here today as these are his words as a Regular Member: “When you do go to a sole-sourced way of acquiring goods and services, the transparency and accountability take a back seat. The people of the Northwest Territories deserve a better way of doing things. We are stewards of public funds and we can’t forget that fact.” I couldn’t agree more.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Procurement Guidelines Relating To Hay River Construction Projects

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to talk about a very frustrating flaw in our procurement policy. We hire engineering services for the Department of Transportation for transportation infrastructure on a standing offer agreement basis.

A constituent of mine, Darrell Dean, born and raised in Hay River, Aboriginal, owns a drilling company called Procore. This company has expended resources to buy equipment and hire employees to be involved in geotechnical work. Last winter and again this winter he has observed our government continuing to use the services of a southern company called Mobile Augers.

Mobile Augers is doing work for which my constituent had no opportunity to bid. The frustration is compounded by the fact that the GNWT work instigates their mobilization into the North from the South, and while already in the North they then start to clean up on the private work from the private sector because they’re in the neighbourhood.

We as a government, with all our glowing claims of wanting jobs and economy in the North, can ill afford to be forfeiting any jobs to the South. Look at our Stats Can report on population. While my constituent is laying off his employees and his equipment is sitting idle, he has to drive by a southern competitor doing work in his home territory for which he had not even an opportunity to bid.

I took it upon myself to speak with officials in the Department of Transportation about this. What I was told is that the engineering services are awarded through a standing offer agreement and they have no control or say over who the engineering firm subcontracts to for geotechnical work. May I suggest, on the principles set out in other types of contracting methods, that northern content should play a large and decisive role in the consideration of proposals for engineering services. It appears that Transportation officials are acting within the policy but the policy is flawed. It’s a glaring gap.

Again, in

summary, we must support northern companies who live, pay taxes and hire people in the North. Later today I will be happy to question my friend Mr. Ramsay , Minister responsible.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Item 4, reports of standing and special committees. Item 5, returns to oral questions. Item 6, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Monfwi , Mr. Lafferty .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize former Behchoko resident Peter Beggair who is here with us.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize the former Member for Mackenzie Delta , David Krutko.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize a constituent of Yellowknife Centre, the former Member for Mackenzie Delta and a guy that

could out-talk everybody in this Assembly, and certainly a guy who knows a heck of a lot of the goings on in the Northwest Territories, the one and only Mr. Krutko.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to take this opportunity one more time to recognize my constituency assistant Maia Lepage, doing great work here at the Assembly this week.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . I’d like to welcome all visitors in the public gallery here today who are taking an interest in our proceedings. Thank you and welcome. Item 7, acknowledgements. Item 8, oral questions. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 25-17(2): Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . How does moving elders from the Mackenzie Delta communities to Inuvik for long-term care fit with the government’s priority to foster healthy and independent communities?

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Question 25-17(2): Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu . Members, Mr. Beaulieu has the floor. Thank you.

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Question 25-17(2): Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The closure of the Joe Greenland building coincides with the government’s plan to provide long-term care where the care can be provided best, where there were services available with doctors and nurses and so on. However, with the closure of the Joe Greenland building, the department has increased their support for elders in the community as well.

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Question 25-17(2): Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Is the Minister willing to at least review the decision to end long-term care at the Joe Greenland Centre and come up with a plan that meets the needs of elders in the delta communities?

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Question 25-17(2): Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

The department is always looking at better ways to provide services to the elders in the communities. An example is coinciding with the closure of the Joe Greenland Centre in Fort McPherson, we’ve upgraded the services that are being provided to the elders in – I’m sorry, not Fort McPherson but, rather, Aklavik. We used to do 139 visits annually and we’ve increased those visits to almost 700 visits to the elders and we added a

nurse to work with home care and one licensed practical nurse as well.

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Question 25-17(2): Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

At this time I have no further questions.

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Question 25-17(2): Closure Of Joe Greenland Centre

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said in my Member’s statement today, it seems that we have a gap in our procurement policies. Standing offer agreements can be offered to firms who can then turn around and subcontract southern companies to do work here in the Northwest Territories. I’m not sure if it’s the Minister for which the work that I’m referring to is being done or if it’s someone else on the other side that’s responsible for this policy on standing offer agreements. I would like to know why standing offer agreements do not uphold the same standard of northern content that other contracts do.

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. David Ramsay .

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. That certainly is something that I believe the government can take a look at on the standing offer agreements. The situation that the Member speaks about in Hay River has been dealt with by departmental officials sitting down with the individual to get a better understanding of when that equipment was procured by that company. Hopefully going forward that company will be involved in any future procurement that requires that type of equipment in the South Slave.

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

One of the features of a standing offer agreement is that it’s in place for a period of time. Can the Minister tell us if standing offer agreements are usually in place for one year or for longer? Because I do appreciate that Mr. Dean has made the department now aware of his equipment, and his capacity and his ability to do this kind of work, but how long before an engineering company can be taken – not taken to task, that’s the wrong word – can be held to account for making sure that they subcontract to northern contractors?

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

I agree with the Member that we have to ensure that the money we are spending, whether it’s through standing offer agreements or other sources of procurement, is done so that it maximizes the benefits to the economy here in the Northwest Territories to local businesses. I want to assure the Member that this

is something that this government is going to continue to pursue.

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Can the Minister assure me that no more standing offer agreements will be awarded by this government without clearly identifying what the northern content and the requirement for northern content is, and for procuring the services from northern contractors, that no more standing offer agreements will be let until this matter is resolved?

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

We hear the concerns from the Member for Hay River South very clearly and it’s something that we’ll take under consideration.

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

At what point and through what vehicle, by what method do we Members on this side of the House get to be involved in the revision of the procurement policies of this government to ensure that Northerners get the work and get the jobs?

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

I think as we move forward there will be ample opportunity for Cabinet to work with the Regular Members to do just that and I look forward to the Regular Members’ participation in that policy review that will take place. Thank you.

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Question 26-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Hay River Construction Projects

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 27-17(2): Support For NWT Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Like I made a speech on my Member’s statement about the fishing industry in Hay River, I’d like the Minister of ITI to maybe let me know if they’ve had any discussions about opening the NWT borders. We have, throughout the country, everybody wanting to open the borders through NAFTA and through European agreements. Are they looking at that availability for fishermen to sell out to the other provinces?

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Question 27-17(2): Support For NWT Fishing Industry

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 27-17(2): Support For NWT Fishing Industry

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Member for the question. I think the department is very interested in finding a way to do just that. The FFMC has gone through a corporate review. There’s a meeting in a couple weeks’ time where some of these recommendations will be presented. There are jurisdictions looking to pull out. Back in 2010, the NWT fishermen voted to stay within that organization. I do think that, going forward, we need to find a better way to get things

done and work with the fishermen and the industry here in the Northwest Territories to maximize those opportunities. Thank you.

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Question 27-17(2): Support For NWT Fishing Industry

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

I’m aware of the discussion on Freshwater. My concern is the availability to allow fishermen in the Northwest Territories to go out on their own and market in those areas. Some believe that BC and Alberta may be areas to expand. My question is: Has the department been working on other marketing of the fish along with Freshwater, I guess?

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

ITI has been working on promotion and support of commercial harvesting, processing, and marketing of fish and meat program that we have here in the Northwest Territories. It’s designed to increase the availability of locally produced healthy food in NWT communities. We’ve done some of that work such as a holding facility and processing facility in Kakisa. We’ve also renovated a building at Wool Bay and are looking at mobile processing facilities in the Sahtu.

Any opportunity that we get to enhance the ability for people that are harvesting fish in the Northwest Territories to get it to not just a market outside the Northwest Territories but to markets here in the NWT, we’re interested in pursuing that. Thank you.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

That goes right in line with my next question. Is the department working with all the other departments within the government to ensure that these types of fish products from the Northwest Territories are in the jails, in the hospitals, in the schools? Are they working to market in those areas?

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Question 27-17(2): Support For NWT Fishing Industry

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

The short answer is yes. This is an important aspect and will be an important aspect of a future economic development strategy here in the Northwest Territories that would include an industry like the fishing industry, again, so we can maximize the opportunities and get fish to market both locally and south of our border.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 28-17(2): Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to follow up on my Member’s statement today, keeping the Minister of Transportation and ITI, ITI in this case, busy today. I’d like to start by seeking the Minister’s statement of principled support for the issue I raised earlier. I know ITI’s SEED program identifies value-added manufacturing as a priority sector for program support, so promoting value-added manufacturing is definitely government policy. In this case, does the Minister see the diamond jewellery industry as value-added opportunity and support the development of training

programs in the skills of producing fine jewellery incorporating our world-class diamonds with our northern artistic talent? Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 28-17(2): Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Going back to the election campaign in the fall, in my election material I had specifically stated in there support for the northern jewellery manufacturing industry. I think, going forward, we have to try to find a way to create jobs in the small communities. In my mind, jewellery manufacturing is one way to accomplish that. They’ve met with a great deal of success in looking at jewellery manufacturing in northern Russia, in small communities.

I think, you know, if we put our minds to it, we can come up with a program that’s going to allow us to move forward with a jewellery manufacturing program. Maybe we could start in one community and try to branch out from there. Some of the best jewellery makers in the world started out as carvers. We’ve got an abundance of those here in the territory and very talented ones. Thank you.

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Question 28-17(2): Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I look to the Aurora College calendar and I see a traditional arts program which offers a three-month hands-on course providing the skills to create and market high quality Aboriginal arts and crafts for local, national and international markets, so again, I see an opportunity here for a similar diamond jewellery program, and apparently the Minister does too. I’m glad to hear it. I appreciate that support.

Will the Minister commit to working with his colleague, the Minister of ECE , perhaps including inquiries of Harry Winston Diamonds on the development of a diamond jewellery skills program right here in the Northwest Territories? Mahsi.

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Question 28-17(2): Secondary Diamond Jewellery Industry

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

I believe in getting some work done very quickly on that and working with my colleague not just in ECE but my Cabinet colleagues. We’re going to have to try to find money as we go forward. If we’re going to do a pilot project or something to that effect, we’ll have to work with the Members and come up with a plan on how best to start that jewellery manufacturing. I could see it including diamonds and also other metals that are produced here in the Northwest Territories. I look forward to doing that. It’s something I really believe in. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thanks again to the Minister for those remarks. Of course, the reason I’m focusing on diamonds is because we are already unsuccessfully spending millions and millions of dollars on trying to get a value-added industry, so I’m talking about taking some of those unsuccessful dollars and shifting them into a successful program. Again, the Minister mentioned it’s tough to do this.

You know, a real partner might be Harry Winston, because, of course, if we were successful they’d be selling a lot more diamonds.

Of course, our greatest resource here is the artists. Will the Minister commit to ensuring that there is a wide invitation and support for the involvement of our artists from all regions in the investigation and development of any programming? Mahsi.

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

You don’t develop a program and get it off the ground without seeking the input of the stakeholders involved, and that would include, obviously, the artists in the territory. Again, it’s not something that is going to magically appear in all the small communities out there. I think we have to be strategic in how it’s done and try to at least get something started. Again, I do look forward to doing that. I’ve had some initial discussions with the department and we have to find a way forward. I thank the Member for raising those concerns in the House today. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Your final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks again to the Minister. I know that he’s onto this. Finally, in the consultation aspect of it, obviously we need to produce products that meet the needs of our sales outlets. In developing any training program we need to start modestly, perhaps one or two artists from each region or something, as the Minister said. Will the department include consultations with the retailers and wholesalers so that skills can be developed to produce a range of products that are relevant and well designed for the marketplace? Mahsi.

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Yes, I think that’s an important part of this or an aspect to this. We need to talk to industry, as well, in preparation for a program, a pilot project, whatever it may end up being, but certainly, they’ll play a

part in that. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 29-17(2): Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my questions are going to be a follow-up on a moratorium that was brought forth to us earlier or actually towards the end of our last session. It is for the Minister of Housing in regards to the short-term moratorium on evictions due to public housing arrears. I just want to get an update from the Minister on how many tenants were in arrears or actually getting caught up on their rental payments. Thank you.

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Question 29-17(2): Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you Mr. Moses . The honourable Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. McLeod.

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Question 29-17(2): Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There was recently a meeting held in Yellowknife with all the LHO managers across the Northwest Territories. One of the items discussed was the moratorium. At the time, it was noted that of the 20 people that were facing eviction, none of them have actually come forward and entered into a repayment plan. It is not going as well as we would have liked. We have two months left. We are hoping there is not a rush at the end and hoping that people start dealing with it right now. That way, we are not faced with mass evictions come April 1

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Question 29-17(2): Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As the Minister stated, we have less than two months to get our orders in place here to have more tenants get their orders in place and get caught up on their arrears or come into a payment plan. Has the department looked at an action plan to help these tenants who are in arrears to get into an action plan to get their payments back on schedule? Thank you.

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Question 29-17(2): Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

In communicating with tenants of the public housing portfolio, they were asked to come into the LHO and work out a repayment plan. I am not sure if we are following up with that, but right now the opportunity is there for them to work with our LHOs, enter into repayment plans and honour them, and come April 1

st there is

a possibility that they would be able to stay in their units. Thank you.

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Question 29-17(2): Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Mr. Speaker, as stated in the moratorium, on April 1, 2012, the NWTHC will once again be carrying out its evictions. We have a number of tenants who have not got into a payment plan. Is the Minister of Housing committed to possibly having their LHOs go out and speak with these individuals? In some cases we may have some individuals who have some language barriers or some mobility issues. Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, we would do the best we can to try and work with all of these tenants, those with language barriers. We are more than willing to work with them so they understand the whole process. The same thing goes with mobility issues. If there are mobility issues, we are more than willing to work with them.

Again, we have a lot of tenants that don’t face these challenges. The onus is on them to come into the LHOs and try and work out repayment. Part of the duties of our LHOs is they try to communicate with the tenants as much as possible. This is one of those cases where the tenants would be wise to come into the LHOs. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses .

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Question 29-17(2): Moratorium On Evictions Due To Public Housing Arrears

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This last question deals with the tenants that have not gone into a repayment plan. Do we have a number of tenants across the Northwest Territories who will possibly become evicted April 1

st that will result in

some of our other programs being accessed such as income support? Does he have a number of tenants that are possibly going to be evicted come April 1

st ? Thank you.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, right now we stand at about 20. The number was at 36. We are at 20 right now. There could possibly be more. We are encouraged by the fact that there were many people that were non-payers, as far as rent goes, before this moratorium came into place. A lot of them are actually stepping up to the plate and entering into repayment plans or working with their LHOs. There has been some positive news come out of this. Those that have always paid their rent are continuing to pay their rent. There has been some positive come out of this, but again we are hoping we are not facing mass evictions come April 1

st because we have given people every

opportunity to come in and enter into a repayment plan. Unfortunately, it is not working out the way we would have liked. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 30-17(2): Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to follow up on my Member’s statement wherein I spoke about Fisherman Lake just across from Fort Liard and the contamination that is present. I would like to ask the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , it has been on the agenda for some time for Fort Liard and the residents. It is almost 30 years there. During my recent visit to Fort Liard, the concern of the families there is that it has been contaminated. What type of mitigation efforts, what type of ongoing monitoring is happening in Fisherman Lake?

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Question 30-17(2): Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 30-17(2): Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a project that is on federal land and regulated by the federal government. We have a marginal role, as the Member pointed out, due to the fact that that responsibility is a federal responsibility, and should the day come with devolution, we would be able to have a much more fulsome and thorough discussion. We review their plans if the remediation plans are available on their website doing their testing. There has been testing done in 2011. The Member’s point is well taken. It is a long existing project and there are concerns as

he indicated. The steps that are being taken fall within the requirements under their land use plan. Thank you.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

When it comes to the water and the fish that is in that lake, there is potential contamination of that as well. What can this government do to work to get the water also tested and monitored? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We monitor and track what is being done. We work with federal agencies and officials to ensure that they take the right steps. There are the concerns that the Member has stated. We have, as well, our own officials, as I indicated, that will work with the federal government keeping in mind still that they have the lead role to play here. Thank you.

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

All this contamination will affect about seven families, not to mention all the users from Fort Liard. I would like to highlight this as a grave concern for the community. I would like to ask the Minister how can the community act on highlighting this with the federal government to ensure that it is a priority on the federal agenda. What steps can we take to heighten the awareness of this contaminated area? Thank you.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, having the Member stand up in the House to voice their concerns is a good way to do it, but in the long term the Member himself has observed the key way to get control of these matters and these issues is to sign the Devolution Agreement and take over that authority or responsibility. There is a separate

chapter under remediated sites that would allow us to make sure that work is done. It would be a federal responsibility, but once we have the authority, we can make sure of the legal ability to go after the federal government to ensure that they honour their responsibility. If the Member stands up and says that devolution is going to help us sort this out, the leadership in the Deh Cho say we have to take over control over land, water and resource planning because looking to the future, we want to avoid these various situations. That is the surest, most imminent way to make those significant changes. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 30-17(2): Environmental Remediation Of Fisherman Lake

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am well aware of the government’s intent to have devolution for our northern territory, but I think the most important thing for the residents of Fort Liard is to address their serious environmental concerns that are affecting their people. I would like to ask the Minister once again how can we raise and heighten the awareness of the environmental concern of Fisherman Lake for the residents of Fort Liard. It could be up to and including a public inquiry. Thank you.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We will be following up based on this discussion in this House. There are officials from all levels of government that listen closely to the debate here. I am completely and fully serious when I talk about the benefit and the ability for us to do this job properly being greatly enhanced within the next very few years and within the life of this Assembly, as a matter of fact, to be able to have that transfer over to the Government of the Northwest Territories so that we don’t have to have the discussion about a third order of government that has their headquarters in Ottawa. It’s very real, it’s very imminent and it’s very doable. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. In my Member’s statement today I talked about medevacs and I need not remind anyone in this House how important those services are. A lot of Northerners depend on them and it’s more than just lip service when I say that in a lot of cases it is life or death on those medevac services. So of course time is very important.

Yesterday I was speaking to someone which has caused the reason why I need to make today’s statement to talk about medevacs. I found out that Deputy Premier Doug Horner of Alberta is moving towards the Edmonton Garrison solution for the medevac problem on the pending closure of the Muni Airport.

My question to the Minister of Health and Social Services is: Is his department willing to get behind this particular initiative, work with the Province of Alberta, work with the City of Edmonton and lobby the federal government so that Edmonton Garrison can be turned over to the Alberta government as a viable solution for medevacs? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Although the department and the Government of the Northwest Territories has no official role with the Alberta government in these deliberations, we do understand preliminary discussions have occurred between the government and the Department of National Defence on the possibility of using the Namao strip, which is the Garrison strip. Thank you.

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. Last term our government did mention or at least talked about their somewhat willingness and participation in the Health Quality Council in Alberta in their dialogue

and overview of services, and the Alberta province itself says until we have a solution we won’t be closing the Muni. This is a solution, but part of that relationship would be that the Health Council of Alberta is the Northwest Territories government through the Minister of Health ’s office was formulating some relationship on this particular subject and it may have been weak, but at the same time they were still involved. That said, I’d like to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services if he will take an active role on this particular file to make sure that the northern voices are heard and protected when it comes to medevac services.

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you. The discussions that I was referring to were discussions about the Garrison Airport. As far as the airport and the Edmonton City Centre Airport, one runway is shut down, but medevacs are continuing to use that airport. The only time the medevacs are diverted to the International Airport at this time is because of weather. Thank you.

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. The fact is we have a missed opportunity. We’re going to have to go wherever they present us. Well, let’s be part of the solution when I say where they present us. That means if they’re going to tell us what airport we can send our medevacs to, we should be on the front of this problem rather than just being told at the very end of the equation and that’s kind of what I’m getting at with the Minister of Health and Social Services here. We need to get involved in the solution to ensure that northern needs are taken care of; otherwise we’re going to have to put up with whatever they give us.

That said, I once again ask the Minister of Health and Social Services will he be willing to take an active role in finding out what’s going on and perhaps even join the deputy premier of Alberta on lobbying DND, that’s the Department of National Defence, so they’ll turn over the Edmonton Garrison for Capital Health of Alberta to ensure that our medevacs arrive safe and in a timely way in Edmonton. Thank you.

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you. The Department of Health in the Northwest Territories is involved with this and had been involved, but this is a relatively new development and we know that that airport could be a viable alternative to the International, but we know that it also requires upgrades and we do believe that it warrants full consideration. Thank you.

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the Minister saying to this House that they’re now involved in this particular observation and discussion and evaluation of the Edmonton Garrison solution? I think it is a viable solution and I just want to make sure our government is involved

in the final decision. Even if it’s a small voice on there, it needs to be a voice at that table. Thank you.

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you. As I indicated earlier, we play no official role but we are aware of the discussions. We’re staying in the loop, but we haven’t engaged officially either with the National Defence or any involvement with the City of Edmonton at this time. Thank you.

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Question 31-17(2): Edmonton Airport Options For Medevac Services

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are addressed to the Minister for Municipal and Community Affairs and I’d like to follow up on my Member’s statement. Since Volunteer NWT folded, I think most non-profit and non-government organizations in the NWT have found it much more difficult to do their job. They have volunteer boards and they have less volunteers to work with. I think it’s been a loss to all of the NWT in the fact that they can’t provide the same services to the effectiveness that they could before when Volunteer NWT was alive and well.

I’d like to ask the Minister, I noted on MACA’s website that the Volunteer Support Initiative Action Plan is listed there. It’s dated Action Plan 2005-2008. The last Volunteer Support Initiative status report was dated 2006-2007. I’d like to know from the Minister whether or not there is any document that exists other than what’s posted on the website with regards to the Volunteer Support Initiative that is more up to date. Has there been any activity on the part of MACA to do updates and to do work on the Volunteer Support Initiative? Thank you.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. McLeod.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The final report on the Volunteer Support Initiative is expected in the fall of 2012. So we’re hoping to get that out by the fall and it will be an update to the past work that’s been done. Thank you.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you. That didn’t really go very far to answering my question about what kind of activities have been in the works, but I’ll wait anxiously for the updated report.

From my information, MACA’s volunteer budget this year is some $263,000, and that, I understand, goes to staffing and management of the two programs that I mentioned, but only $70,000 of that $263,000 goes to the actual programs. It would seem to me that it would be possible for the department to re-profile $50,000 out of that $263,000 so that we could have a Volunteer NWT

back in business. I’d like to ask the Minister whether or not he would be able to see his way through that. Thank you.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. Volunteer has a budget of $150,000 in the past year and that goes out to help support a lot of the volunteer groups under that particular umbrella organization. As well, the volunteer organization development contribution increased from $20,000 to $70,000. Again, our preference would be to put money right into the volunteer groups themselves and not in an umbrella organization. However, we’re coming up to a business planning process and it’s an issue, obviously, that the Member will raise and it’s something that we’d be more than willing to listen to. Thank you.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister. I’m hoping that he’s listening now as I raise this issue. I agree that certainly, and I was very pleased to see that the department has increased the contributions to volunteer organizations from $20,000 to $70,000, but without a coordinator, without a centralized person to assist organizations, they lack the ability to do the training that is needed for volunteers that allows our NGOs to do the business that they need to do for us. So if the Minister at this point, as he seems to have indicated that $50,000 is not available to reinstitute Volunteer NWT, what can the Minister suggest he could to do to get Volunteer NWT back up and running? Thank you.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I can assure the Member that the Minister is listening, and the Minister is listening also to other voices from across the NWT. I’ve heard nothing, really, on Volunteer NWT. They’re pleased with some of the volunteer support that they’re given; however, Volunteer NWT provided a service that was required by some organizations. We’d not be willing to commit money at this point; however, as I mentioned to the Member, we are going through a business planning process where it would be an opportunity for the Member or Members to raise any monies that they would like to see put towards Volunteer NWT again. As I said before, we’re listening and we’d be more willing to listen further.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thanks to the Minister. I’m really pleased to hear his assurance that he’s listening and I can assure the Minister that, yes, I will raise this issue when we review business plans.

If the department doesn’t feel that half a PY or some kind of human resource is necessary for Volunteer NWT, is there any hope that the Minister may see his way to increase the $70,000 going to the various organizations could be increased so that it could go to more than the 17 organizations – or, sorry, 16 I guess it was last year who were able

to access it. I’m sure there’s a lot more organizations who would access it if they could.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Obviously it is something that we would have to look at. If we’re getting more requirements or needs for the money that we have, or more demands, then it’s something that I think as an organization, as a department that we would have to have a look at and see how we can best support those groups that are actually out there delivering these programs to their communities. We understand the importance of volunteerism and every one of us in here has volunteered at one time or another. We need to ensure that we do our

part in assisting volunteers as much as possible.

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Question 32-17(2): Update On Volunteer Support Initiative

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I alluded to in my Member’s statement today, I will be asking the Minister of Transportation questions today on sole sourcing and the methodologies or process management policies he and his department will be using for projects such as the Giant Mine bypass and projects for the coming years.

Bottom line, I have a bit of trouble understanding the rationale when the government decides in its best interest of public funds to sole source contracts and when not to. My first question to the Minister today is: Under what circumstances can the Department of Transportation, deputy minister, Minister and Cabinet award contracts without some sort of competitive process?

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The honourable Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. David Ramsay .

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we have an obligation to ensure that all the information is on the table, that we maximize the opportunities for local involvement in projects, and I want to assure the Member that no decision has been made on how this realignment project will be delivered. It isn’t being fast-tracked. I think I heard the Member say it was being fast-tracked during his Member’s statement. This project has been in the works for several years. It isn’t being fast-tracked, nor will the procurement delivery model that will ultimately be decided upon by Cabinet be quickly or fast-tracked to arrive at.

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

So in the case of Highway No. 4 Giant Mine Bypass Road Project, I won’t use the word fast-tracked but I’ll say perceived rush to have started on the pathway of a negotiated contract and

then later removed for consideration by Cabinet Ministers. Can the Minister explain that process?

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

Again, I don’t believe we are in a rush. I think we are getting a little bit behind

schedule when it comes time to make a decision on procurement on the realignment of Highway No. 4.

Again, this project has been in the mix now for several years. Construction was to begin in the winter/spring of this year to be completed by this fall. We’re moving now to look at a construction start date sometime in April.

We need to find out the best way to maximize the benefits to the economy of the Northwest Territories. We’re interested, as your colleague Mrs. Groenewegen stated in her questions to me, in trying to ensure that the money that is spent stays in the North as much as possible, and the jobs and opportunities and training are going to local people. All those things will be put on the table and ultimately Cabinet will have to make a decision on the best way to proceed with the procurement of the realignment of Highway No. 4 and that will happen in due course.

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

I appreciate the Minister’s response on that. To dig a little further here, Mr. Speaker, and to the Minister, did the proponents in this case approach the GNWT, or did the GNWT approach the proponents for this project?

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Transportation

I believe it was the former, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 33-17(2): Procurement Guidelines For Highway No. 4 Realignment

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final supplementary, Mr. Dolynny .

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