Debates of March 2nd, 2017

This is page numbers 2115 – 2164 of the Hansard for the 18th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was information .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Progress Statement – Governance: Office Of The Auditor General Of Canada Performance Audit

Online Service Improvements

Pursuing An Agreement With The Federal Government On The Management Of Offshore Resources

Health And Social Services System Transformation Implementation

Snow King Winter Festival

Chief Julian Yendo School Annual Trip To Alberta

GNWT Land Lease Rates

Diamond Mine Environmental Agreements

Community Support In Response To K’atlodeeche Tragedy

Deline Got’ine Library Proposal

Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

Indigenous Wellness And System Of Care

Health Information Act Implementation

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

Diamond Mine Environmental Agreements

New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

GNWT Land Lease Rates

Junior Kindergarten Funding

Deline Got'ine Library Proposal

Health Information Act Implementation

New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

Diamond Mine Environmental Agreements

Return To Written Question 17-18(2): Impact Of Proposed Aurora College Program Changes

Return To Written Question 18-18(2): Instructional School Hours

Committee Report 8-18(2): Report On The Review Of The 2014-2015 And 2015-2016 Annual Reports Of The Information And Privacy Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories

Motion To Receive Committee Report 8-18(2) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Tabled Document 311-18(2): Strategy For Revitalizing The Great Slave Lake Commercial Fishery - March 2017

Tabled Document 312-18(2): Follow-Up Letter For Oral Question 572-18 (2): Social Services Facilities In Downtown Yellowknife

Tabled Document 313-18(2): Letter From Giant Mine Oversight Board Dated February 28, 2017 Regarding Giant Mine Oversight Board Roll Over Provision

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Finance, Deferral Of Directorate Activity

Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Department Of Finance, Deferral Of Further Consideration Of The Estimates For Finance

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

Members Present

Hon. Glen Abernethy , Mr. Beaulieu , Mr. Blake , Hon. Caroline Cochrane , Hon. Jackson Lafferty , Hon. Bob McLeod , Hon. Robert McLeod , Mr. McNeely , Hon. Alfred Moses , Mr. Nadli , Mr. Nakimayak , Mr. O'Reilly , Hon. Wally Schumann , Hon. Louis Sebert , Mr. Simpson , Mr. Testart , Mr. Thompson , Mr. Vanthuyne

The House met at 1:30 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Good afternoon, Members. Ministers' statements. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs .

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Minister's Statement 151-18(2): Progress Statement – Governance: Office Of The Auditor General Of Canada Performance Audit

Ministers' Statements

Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs was recently the subject of a performance audit conducted by the Office of the Auditor General of Canada. The audit assessed the department's performance as it relates to supporting community governments with the provision of essential services to residents.

The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is always looking for ways to improve our programs and services. Given this commitment, we welcome the report and recommendations of the Auditor General.

The report of the Auditor General was tabled in this Legislative Assembly in October 2016 and included 13 recommendations, focusing on four key areas:

1. Supporting the delivery of essential services;

2. Developing tools to support community governments;

3. Supporting designated authorities; and

4. Supporting community government capacity.

Municipal and Community Affairs developed a comprehensive plan to take action on all 13 recommendations. This action plan was presented to the Standing Committee on Government Operations on January 17, 2017.

We anticipate receiving feedback from the standing committee to help us ensure that our action plan is on the right track and represents the broad interests of the Office of the Auditor General, community governments, and Members of this House.

Mr. Speaker, Municipal and Community Affairs is committed to building stronger relationships with community governments and collaborating and fostering government-to-government relationships with Aboriginal governments.

The department is open to changing its practices and processes where it will result in better services to community governments. The department has a strong relationship with community governments as well as the Northwest Territories Association of Communities and the local government administrators of the Northwest Territories.

These well-established and cooperative relationships will be vital in ensuring that the action plan and its implementation respond to the needs of community governments.

Mr. Speaker, I remain committed to supporting community governments and ensuring that the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is providing programs and services in the best way possible, delivered by our dedicated and professional staff. This report of the Auditor General will help further focus the work we are already doing to improve our services. I look forward to providing updates to Members as we proceed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 151-18(2): Progress Statement – Governance: Office Of The Auditor General Of Canada Performance Audit

Ministers' Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Transportation .

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Minister's Statement 152-18(2): Online Service Improvements

Ministers' Statements

Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Over the past four years, residents and businesses of the Northwest Territories have been able to access a number of secure online driver and motor vehicle services such as vehicle registration, renewals, driver abstracts, driver testing appointment booking, rescheduling or cancelling, access to commercial permits, and much more.

Mr. Speaker, more and more people are taking advantage of these online services. I am happy to say that there have been over 185,000 online services performed to date. Due to the recent additions, such as commercial vehicle permitting, the use of online services has grown by 90 per cent from a year ago.

The Department of Transportation recently completed a successful soft launch of new services for driver licence and general identification card renewals. Residents from the communities of Inuvik, Norman Wells, Tuktoyaktuk, Fort Smith, Hay River, and Yellowknife participated in the soft launch by applying online for their drivers' licenses or NWT identification cards.

This process allowed the Department of Transportation to work out any issues with the new services beforehand in order to ensure a successful future official launch. We are now ready to roll these services out more broadly, along with online accident reporting and personalized license plates. This will allow the residents to access even more services from the comfort of their homes.

The new services will reduce the need to travel for people living in communities without a local Driver and Motor Vehicle Office. The services will also decrease wait times at all offices, making for a more enjoyable client service experience.

Businesses, meanwhile, will have online access to commercial fleet management for upgrading or downgrading vehicle weights and self-managing tolling transponders for the Deh Cho bridge.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Transportation has budgeted $1.2 million in capital to continue improving online driver and motor vehicle services over this fiscal year, and we continue to pay $350,000 for the program's operation and maintenance.

The online services have also achieved operational efficiencies, enabling the department to discontinue services provided by southern contractors, which now saves the Government of the Northwest Territories $360,000 annually.

Online service delivery is part of our government's Service Innovation Strategy, which supports effective and efficient government. The Department of Transportation is committed to ensuring that these services are accessible for as many residents of the territory as possible under its 25-year transportation strategy. I'm proud to say that residents from all NWT communities have now subscribed to online services. The department has also provided training to community government service officers so that they can help elders and other clients use our online services in their communities.

Our achievements in delivering online motor vehicle services affirms our government as an industry leader among other jurisdictions. None of these innovations would be possible without the commitment of our staff. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the Government of the Northwest Territories employees involved with this project. The Department of Transportation looks forward to continuing the success and improvement of online driver and motor vehicle services to ensure residents get the services they need from anywhere with Internet access. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 152-18(2): Online Service Improvements

Ministers' Statements

The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Ministers' statements. Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Intergovernmental Relations .

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Minister's Statement 153-18(2): Pursuing An Agreement With The Federal Government On The Management Of Offshore Resources

Ministers' Statements

Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories made a commitment in its mandate to pursue an agreement with the federal government on the management of offshore resources.

Our economy depends heavily on resource development as the major contributor to our GDP and a source of jobs and income for our residents. Ensuring that there are options for Northerners and economic development alternatives must be part of the decision-making process. One of the ways we can ensure our people have good options is by working in partnership with Nunavut and Yukon on a pan-territorial sustainability and development strategy.

Mr. Speaker, despite the moratorium, advancing negotiations for the management of offshore resources remains a priority for the Government of the Northwest Territories. Yes, there is currently limited offshore activity in Canadian Arctic waters and, given the cost of production in the Arctic, world prices would need to substantially improve to make Arctic extraction viable. However, it is important that we do not sit back and wait for the economy in the Arctic to "get better."

Based on current market conditions, Imperial Oil has suggested a maximum remaining life of 10 years for its Norman Wells operation. The temporary shutdown of its facilities in February has emphasized just how critical a permanent closure would be for the governments, communities, and people who are reliant on the investment that is realized from exploration and development in this sector.

In my view, the low level of resource development occurring presents us with an opportunity to invest our efforts now in developing a management regime for the offshore, including sharing resource revenues, that will be well supported by the people of the Northwest Territories should activity levels increase.

The time is right to get on with these negotiations, Mr. Speaker. This is the message that I have conveyed to the Prime Minister and I look forward to receiving his positive response in the near future.

I am optimistic that, with a renewed commitment from all parties, we can proceed quickly in our negotiations for the management of oil and gas resources in the Beaufort Sea in a manner that balances economic and environmental considerations, and respects the interest of all parties, particularly those of us who live and work in the North. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers' Statements

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Minister of Health and Social Services .

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Minister's Statement 154-18(2): Health And Social Services System Transformation Implementation

Ministers' Statements

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories made a commitment in its mandate to continue the integration of the health and social services system to improve care for our people. Today, I want to provide an update on our work to transform the Northwest Territories health and social services system.

This work reached a major milestone with the establishment of the Northwest Territories Health and Social Services Authority on August 1, 2016. I would like to thank all of my colleagues here today for their support in reaching this important goal.

At the same time as the authority was established, the Northwest Territories Health and Social Services Leadership Council, chaired by Mr. Jim Antoine, began its work to inform future changes to the way we deliver care and services. The council has met numerous times, with two formal public meetings taking place in September and December of 2016 and further meetings are being planned in March of 2017.

Members of the Leadership Council continue to be supported in their information gathering and decision making by the new Regional Wellness Councils. The councils have all participated in development sessions that allowed members to build a shared understanding of their new roles, with an emphasis on engaging residents in their regions.

Regional Wellness Councils have all held at least one meeting in their regions with many more planned. Taking their meetings beyond regional centres so residents in all our communities will eventually have the opportunity to meet their members is part of the plan.

Mr. Speaker, creating a responsive, high-quality health and social services system our residents have confidence in is a priority for us. Giving residents an easier way to bring any concerns they might have to our attention so we can find solutions is one of the reasons we created the new Regional Wellness Councils. We also look to the Regional Wellness Councils to provide a strong and clear voice for their regions at the territorial level.

Another area where progress has been made is in the move to a single Territorial Medical Staff, a priority item that will have an immediate positive impact on our system.

A unified medical staff will be able to deliver more consistent care as they set shared standards and work across geographic boundaries to make improvements to our entire system. Fostering an environment of collaboration among our medical professionals is an exciting development and I look forward to seeing it roll out.

Mr. Speaker, change will not happen overnight. The new governance and administrative structures are foundational building blocks to improving our system, but there is still much work to be done. We are also developing a robust evaluation plan to ensure that we can measure and monitor progress as change occurs.

Behind all of the work in our system is a dedicated staff. We have made it a priority to engage staff throughout the transformation process and asked them to help identify what areas of our system need improvement. In support of this goal, senior staff from the Northwest Territories Health and Social Services Authority completed a number of regional visits to have face-to-face conversations with those on the front lines.

In this time of change we will continue to focus on delivering the best possible care and services to patients and clients. I know that our front line workers throughout the Northwest Territories work hard every day to ensure the people of the NWT are taken care of, and I continue to commend every one of them, every individual involved in this work.

I am confident that with the help of these staff and our new councils, we will be able to deliver improved cultural competency, enhanced quality and consistency of care, and better outcomes for those who rely on us.

Mr. Speaker, I am optimistic that we will continue to see improvement, and I look forward to providing updates on system transformation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 154-18(2): Health And Social Services System Transformation Implementation

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Snow King Winter Festival

Members' Statements

Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, something remarkable happened yesterday down on Yellowknife Bay. For the 22nd time, the Snowking's Winter Festival kicked off its annual celebration of all things snow, ice, and winter.

Mr. Speaker, as Northerners, most of us grew up knowing that it's fun to play in the snow. More than 22 years ago, Yellowknifer Tony Foliot took that concept and ran with it and, if he could build a castle out of snow, well, it is only right that he should be the king of the castle!

Now the Snowking festival has evolved into a celebration of winter that draws visitors from across Canada and other parts of the world. Starting just after freeze-up, a hardy band of souls is down on the lake every day. They cut the ice to make windows, steeples, and sculptures of all kinds. Then for two months they scoop and shovel and pile and blow and shape the snow.

What emerges from this labour is an amazing castle. With a courtyard and slide, a grand ballroom, and various nooks and crannies, the Yellowknife snow castle has evolved into a masterful thing of beauty that is bigger and better every year.

Its programming has evolved too. Every day in the month of March there's something unique and fun going on at the castle. The festival provides a venue for many local musicians, and also brings in national musical performers. Everything from DJs at the Royal Rave to country to rockabilly and blues and roots, even a Burlesque show and a comedy night.

The festival is great for families, and not just to go down the slide. It features children's plays and music and stories. It's a venue for art of many kinds. Its art shows feature the works of local schools and celebrations of uniquely northern groups such as Arctic FOXY.

There is a hockey tournament, a fish fry, a film festival, table tennis, and a TV screening, and its snow carving competition, which ends today, Mr. Speaker, now draws participants from as far away as China. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Snow King Winter Festival

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, this celebration of arts and music and life in the snow has evolved into a true treasure for our community and territory. The ingenuity, commitment, teamwork, and inventiveness of the Snowking and his team has become a significant asset and an important feature of our winter.

I invite my colleagues to join me in congratulating the Snowking on beginning his 22nd season. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Snow King Winter Festival

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Nahendeh .

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Chief Julian Yendo School Annual Trip To Alberta

Members' Statements

Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Chief Julian Yendo School junior high school students have been working really hard all year to be able to be part of the annual Jasper and Edmonton field trip. The school staff, the District Education Authority, and the parents worked together to come up with guidelines the students need to fulfill to be able to go on the trip.

Mr. Speaker, some of the guidelines involved the students to have good attendance, complete their assigned work, be well behaved in school, and be respectful of their fellow students, visitors, and school staff. On top of this, the students needed to help out with fundraising events such as movie nights and monthly recycling days.

Mr. Speaker, I am very proud to say that almost all the students from grade 7 to 9 were able to participate in this trip. These students are considered to be role models for the younger students and you can hear them speak highly about this trip. The younger students look at this trip as something to work for and it motivates them to stay in school, work hard and keep up with their school attendance. It is like they are preparing themselves for when they get to grade seven.

Mr. Speaker, this year the school trip took place from February 8th to 16th. From all accounts, it was a very positive experience for the students, staff, and one young adult chaperone -- the community's recreation coordinator.

All students got along great, they bonded as a group, gained self-confidence. As well, this trip helped promote healthy life choices and build on the school's spirit.

Some of the highlights involved them participating in snowboarding, swimming, staying in hotels, and eating out at restaurants. The funny thing about eating out, the students really enjoyed having pizza. Some things don't change!

Mr. Speaker, the students had the opportunity to visit the Telus World of Science Centre where they got see the various science displays and watch an IMAX 3D documentary titled "Wild Africa." To round out the trip, they went to an Edmonton Oilers game at the Rogers Centre and witnessed an Edmonton Oilers win. Believe that? Oh, that's pretty impressive.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the Wrigley District Education Authority, Pehdzeh Ki First Nation, and Municipal and Community Affairs for helping to sponsoring this trip. As well, the students and the staff, for all the hard work they did to go on this trip.

Mr. Speaker, these extracurricular trips continue to be of great value to the students, and the students continue to be great ambassadors for the school, community, region, and the NWT. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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Chief Julian Yendo School Annual Trip To Alberta

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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GNWT Land Lease Rates

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Elders who are making under $25,000 per year are being asked to pay over $2,000 per year for their property lease or lot rental. This is actually a discounted amount. People who are not elders yet pay the full amount of over $4,000 per year.

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Lands must take a second look at this extremely unfair policy. There are situations in the riding of Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh where people cannot afford to apply for a lease of the land they have occupied for many, many years, let alone afford to pay the extremely high yearly lease cost.

Mr. Speaker, if people could pay these lease rates, they would eventually pay for the value of lot, but Mr. Speaker, they would still not have title to this land.

At this point, Mr. Speaker, I don't even think the Government of the Northwest Territories has the right to tax people on our land. I realize the leases are not truly taxes, but our forcing people into leases or rentals is just another way of taxing the people.

Mr. Speaker, when poor people are telling me if they were to pay their leases they would have to go without food or shelter, never mind the fact that people cannot afford to buy new clothes for their families, there is something seriously wrong.

I will ask the Minister to re-examine the land lease policy, or ask him and his Lands staff to start paying 10 per cent of the value of their property per year for land tax and see how fair they think the policy is then. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Diamond Mine Environmental Agreements

Members' Statements

Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. Our government signed off on several legally binding environmental agreements covering diamond mines in the Northwest Territories as follows:

• BHP NWT Diamond Project in 1997;

• Diavik Mine in 2000; and

• Snap Lake Mine in 2004.

These agreements are part of the network of arrangements that includes impact and benefit agreements, socio-economic agreements and licences, and permits that allowed the diamond mines to proceed in advance of Indigenous land rights settlements and a complete environmental management regime with air and wildlife regulation.

The diamond mine environmental agreements were also necessary given the need to build public confidence in this new economic commodity and to help dispel doubt as to the capacity and willingness of governments to properly protect the public interest. The agreements formed an important component of what has been called the social licence for the diamond mines to begin operation.

There are a couple of other special features of the diamond environmental agreements. The federal, territorial, and Indigenous governments are all involved or signatories, and there is an oversight body formed for each mine. The oversight bodies vary from independent and technically focused to representative and, finally, more consultative. Each has its advantages and drawbacks, but in general these oversight bodies have helped create and maintain public confidence in environmental performance of the mines.

A couple of years ago, partly as a result of devolution, there were efforts to amend the diamond mine environmental agreements. The then federal government was withdrawing from its environmental responsibilities and severely weakened its legislation and functions. At the same time, our government was doing its best to rid itself of any federal presence at the expense of the experience and funding that the national government brings to the table. The weakening of the diamond mine environmental agreements was questioned and even resisted by almost all Indigenous governments here and in Nunavut.

With a change in federal government, this effort was put on the back burner and I understand that there is a renewed interest in amending the agreements, in a proper fashion, to reflect the residual federal responsibilities over matters such as fish, transboundary issues, species at risk, and toxic substances.

I will have questions later today for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources on the current initiative to amend and hopefully strengthen the diamond mine environmental agreements. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Community Support In Response To K’atlodeeche Tragedy

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Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

We had a tragic accident happen on the K'atlodeeche reserve, and I wanted to say thank you to everyone who pulled together in a short period of time to bring the family back home. With the amounts of donations accepted from communities such as Yellowknife, Fort Providence, Kakisa, Enterprise, Hay River, Fort Smith, and Fort Resolution and so on, they were able to furnish a whole house plus more for the Buggins and Chambaud family.

Mr. Speaker, the response of compassion and support and donations for the family speaks volumes of the true northern spirit. The family are back home on the Hay River Reserve and have been assisted by the Hay River Dene Band with a house to live in. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Deline Got’ine Library Proposal

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The Deline Got'ine Government has started after many years of negotiations. Preservation of their culture and heritage is high on their mandate.

Mr. Speaker, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission came out with a number of recommendations, one of them being preservation of traditional knowledge.

Mr. Speaker, recognizing the resource staff in this building and coming to know the wealth of knowledge and supports given by the staff members, in particular the library and resource centre we have here, this archived wealth of knowledge is exactly what the Deline Got'ine Government is pursuing to add to their administration as well as capture the great wealth of knowledge and archive this knowledge the traditional elder community has. Later I will have questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Deline Got’ine Library Proposal

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Jackson Lafferty

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Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

Members' Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we know that our seniors want to stay in their homes and in their communities for as long as they can.

Elders want to maintain their independence. They also want to stay close to their family and friends, and to the places where they grew up and where they built their lives.

They also have knowledge and expertise to share, knowledge that they want to give back to their communities, to help the next generation learn and grow. Having to move to access suitable housing or long-term care can be frightening and stressful, particularly if you primarily speak your traditional language and have to move to the city.

Mr. Speaker, when you come from our smallest communities -- like Tsiigehtchic, for example, with a population of around 178 people -- even the move to a relatively nearby town, to long-term care in lnuvik, can be jarring.

It's not what you know and it's not your home. My constituents have come to me to talk about these challenges, and we as Members know that seniors' housing and care needs is an oncoming storm facing this government.

The Department of Health and Social Services has clearly identified the shortfalls we are facing in the long-term care beds. The department is also planning work to improve rates of chronic disease like diabetes in the NWT.

As you know, Mr. Speaker, Regular Members have advocated for increased support for homecare in the communities. Prevention work like that means healthier elders, elders who can stay comfortable and safe in their homes longer.

I want to talk about where the NWT Housing Corporation fits in. In Tsiigehtchic, there are just four dedicated housing units for elders as part of a row house. There is a real demand for real space. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, the corporation needs to get the wheels turning, evaluating these needs and getting started on capital planning. A retirement home in Tsiigehtchic would keep families together, improve elders' local access to healthcare and support, create jobs from construction to operations to maintenance, and strengthen the community's cultural foundation. I will have questions for the Minister of the Housing Corporation later today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Kam Lake .

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Indigenous Wellness And System Of Care

Members' Statements

Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is no secret that the North faces significant challenges when it comes to the health and wellness of our residents. During the last election, and since then, I have heard many calls for a brick and mortar treatment centre or some kind of facility that can offer made-in-the-North, culturally appropriate care for Northerners.

I think, with the very recent and tragic events involving the death of an Indigenous man in one of our communities who was mistakenly thought to be drunk when in fact he was suffering from a stroke, it is further evidence that we need a system of care and treatment that is informed by Indigenous culture and Indigenous traditional knowledge.

Thankfully, we have a group in the Northwest Territories now, the Arctic Indigenous Wellness Foundation, that is actively pursuing creating a new Indigenous wellness foundation here in Yellowknife. I am very pleased to support this work. This project has been brought to the attention of our standing committees and our Members. At the time, it was very well received. I am glad that the foundation has moved forward, and we can start to take action.

These sorts of facilities are not uncommon in Canada. In fact, many other jurisdictions have similar facilities, including cities such as Toronto and Vancouver. Certainly, this is something that our residents would benefit from. As the foundation has said, it is not a gift. It is a sustainable investment in real solutions that take into account the very complex and critical needs of Northerners, who are often left outside of the health system despite our best efforts.

It is time to think outside the box. It is time to listen to the wisdom of the elders and to end the practices of colonization that often do more harm than good and start reversing the course of a legacy of colonization that continues to hold back the futures of our Indigenous people. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Member for Hay River North .

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Health Information Act Implementation

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I usually take this opportunity to talk about issues specific to Hay River, but, believe it or not, there are important issues beyond Hay River's borders as well. Today, I am using my Member's statement to inform the public about an issue that affects everyone in the territory.

In 2015, the NWT's new Health Information Act came into force. The act establishes the rules for the collection, use, disclosure, and security of every resident's personal health information. It is intended to balance one's privacy with the need to provide healthcare services. The Department of Health and Social Services, regional health authorities, pharmacies, and healthcare providers in the private sector are all governed by the act.

Individuals are given important rights under the act, including the right to set limits on the collection, use, and sharing of your personal health information; the right to withdraw your consent for the collection, use, or sharing of your personal information; and the right to access and be informed about the use and sharing of your personal information.

These rights are based on the concept of implied consent, meaning that, if you access healthcare services, you are agreeing for your information to be shared. If you wish to limit the use of your information, you can do so, but the conditions must be put in writing. However, the mechanisms to enforce these wishes don't seem to exist.

In her most recent annual report, the NWT's Information and Privacy Commissioner raised some serious concerns with how this legislation is being implemented and stated there is still much work to be done to ensure compliance with the new obligations that the act places on those who can access your information and to ensure public awareness of the rights the act provides.

The Commissioner also noted that the act requires the Department of Health to undertake a privacy impact assessment whenever there is a proposed change to an information system relating to the collection, use, or disclosure of personal health information.

The Information and Privacy Commissioner stated that the Department of Health and Social Services contravened the act by not doing this in advance of the amalgamation of the health boards, which the Minister referred to today as the "system transformation." The department's decision was made despite the recommendations of the 17th Assembly's Standing Committee on Social Programs that it do so.

I agree with the Commissioner's assessment, and I believe that the department's

interpretation of the legal requirement to conduct a privacy impact assessment is flawed.

The government has stated that the department takes the privacy concerns of patients and clients very seriously, yet they are refusing to undertake a privacy impact assessment, even though our Information and Privacy Commissioner is telling them that the law requires them to do so. Later today I will have questions for the Minister on the implementation of the Health Information Act. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

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Jackson Lafferty

Colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to a few people in the gallery. I am pleased to recognize a group of 19 international exchange students and three chaperons from the Rotary District 5370. These students represent 19 different countries from around the world and each is billeted in a different high school in a different community in Alberta for the whole year. They are in Yellowknife for three days to experience life in Canada's North and are being hosted by the Rotary Club of Yellowknife. They are also joined by Laura Morie, Rotary district governor for this region.

I would like to say masi for joining us. It is always great to have guests in as part of our proceedings. Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Hay River North .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize the two pages from Ecole Boreale in Hay River, Sarah Buth and Victoria Tweedie-Pitre. They have stuck with us through some late nights this sitting. I want to thank them and just say we all appreciate the hard work they have been doing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to recognize two of my constituents from Fort McPherson, Joanne Tetlichi and Perry Robert. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Member for Yellowknife South .

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize the page from Yellowknife South, Kailyn Unka, who attends St. Patrick School, and also all the pages who are here today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. If we missed anyone in the gallery, welcome to our proceedings. It is always great to have an audience. Masi. Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

Oral Questions

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in follow-up to my Member's statement, I have a few questions for the Minister responsible for the Housing Corporation . I would like to ask the Minister: how has the Housing Corporation tracked and evaluated seniors' housing needs in Tsiigehtchic to date? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for Northwest Territories Housing Corporation .

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently at this moment I do not know if we have tracked the seniors' needs in Tsiigehtchic at this point. I can make a promise that we will do an assessment on the community and see how many seniors there are. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I would like to ask the Minister: what criteria does a community need to meet to trigger planned construction for a new seniors' home?

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

The current practice is that we try to do an assessment every year, and we try to look at all of the housing needs throughout the whole Northwest Territories. In my opinion, that was not always the best practice. That is why we are doing the survey and actually developing community plans, because, at that time, each community would have its own identified priorities, which, in my opinion, is a better way of providing services.

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I would also like to ask: what other housing programs and services does the department offer to support Tsiigehtchic elders who want to say in their communities and the families who want to help support their elders?

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

There is a variety of supports that seniors can actually access for renovating their own homes that they currently live in. Recently, we also put an extra $500,000 into our budget specifically for seniors' homes, that they can actually use to help renovate so that they can stay in their homes as long as possible.

We are working hand in hand with Health and Social Services. We recognize that, seniors, there is a huge need, that the population is growing, and we are doing the best we can to try to help seniors to be able to age in place, whether that means staying in their own homes or having extra supports.

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Mackenzie Delta .

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, will the department look at a planning study to see, if there is a real need in the community, which areas, for elders in the community? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Caroline Cochrane

Range Lake

As the Members are aware, the housing survey actually just closed the other day, and so we will actually have the statistics coming in which we will share with all Members, which will identify the prioritized needs of each community and what they say. So, once that information is all compiled, I will share that with all of the Members.

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Question 667-18(2): Elders’ Residence For Tsiigehtchic

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake .

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday the honourable Minister of Transportation spoke at length about Yellowknife Airport evolution. This plan is somewhat controversial, and even more so perhaps in the light of a recent CBC investigative report that showed that between 4 to 6 per cent of airport improvement fees are pocketed by airline carriers and go into their direct revenues. How does the Minister plan to avoid this in light of our airport improvement planning and ensure that 100 per cent of all of the proposed fees are invested in crucial airport infrastructure, as he has promised? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The plan moving forward is, yes, we are going to introduce an airport improvement fee into the Yellowknife Airport to help pay for some capital expenditures moving forward. The airline fees typically charge a percentage on these fees across Canada, and it is something that we are keeping a close eye on. As the Member alluded, that is in the news today, and we will see what the outcome is from that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

So it does not sound like there is a plan. When they were considering doing this, was the Minister aware of how these fees operate across Canada, or is this investigative report new to the Minister's knowledge, too?

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Yes, we were well aware that this fee was charged when the airlines collect the outbound passengers, so that is the answer.

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

I and my constituents eagerly await the Minister's plan to stop the pocketing of this fee. Further to his statement, the Minister also made reference to the Yellowknife Airport currently employing approximately a thousand people and that there is an opportunity to generate more jobs. How many direct jobs will the proposed airport plan create?

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

I want to thank the Member for bringing that forward. Yes, the Yellowknife Airport has a significant economic benefit to the City of Yellowknife and the residents of the Northwest Territories, with a thousand direct jobs. When we move to this new funding model for how we develop the airport, it has the potential of creating probably tonnes of more jobs. I couldn't give him the exact number. We realize the economic potential that lies there, particularly for the City of Yellowknife. It brings in significant amount of dollars to the community as well as the Northwest Territories.

I can't remember the number exactly, off the top of my head, the amount of GDP that the Yellowknife Airport brings. I believe it is somewhere in excess of $100 million. The direct taxes to the City of Yellowknife and the Government of the Northwest Territories is around $40-some million.

If we could take this asset and develop it into a better economic opportunity to bring more tourists to the Northwest Territories, more business through cargo, more direct flights, more businesses that are operating in the airport, it is going to bring significant opportunities for all residents of the Northwest Territories.

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake .

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Kieron Testart

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have tonnes of more questions, but I understand I only have one left. You know, for the definition of "tonnes," I think it is a thousand, so maybe a couple of more thousand is what the Minister is getting at, but I digress.

The Minister also said that there is an infrastructure deficit, there is a strain that needs to be upgraded in the short term to cope with the pressure. These improvements that the Minister has listed off today, and on other days, as well, when will Yellowknifers be able to enjoy them? Is it next year? Is it the year after? Is it 10, 20, 30 years? What year will a new airport be delivered to Northerners and we will start seeing all these benefits, and what is the cost? Thank you.

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Question 668-18(2): Yellowknife Airport Improvement Plan

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Wally Schumann

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As soon as we pass the budget and pass the Revolving Funds Act, we will be able to address this. Moving forward, we anticipate to collect upwards of $8 million to $9 million extra in revenue per year, offsetting the $4 million that the government already subsidized the airport by, so, with the collection of these new fees, we will be able to invest this money at an opportune time once we move forward.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Frame Lake .

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Question 669-18(2): Diamond Mine Environmental Agreements

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Merci, Monsieur le President. As I discussed in my Member's statement, diamond mine environmental agreements are an important part of the network of arrangements that form the social licence for the diamond mines to operate and to maintain public confidence. My questions are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . Can the Minister summarize the thinking and action that has taken place on amending the diamond mine environmental agreements? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 669-18(2): Diamond Mine Environmental Agreements

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, after devolution, the Government of the Northwest Territories assumed the responsibilities of the Minister of Indigenous and Northern Affairs, or INAC, as outlined in the environment agreements for the territory's three diamonds. However, the environmental agreements have not been formally amended to reflect this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 669-18(2): Diamond Mine Environmental Agreements

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister for that response, because it leads perfect into my next question. There are still residual federal responsibilities in the Northwest Territories for fish, toxic substances, migratory wildlife, transboundary issues, and then the value, of course, that the federal government can bring to the table in terms of experience and funding. Does the Minister recognize these roles of the federal government, and will they be adequately reflected to any amendments to the diamond mine environmental agreements?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

I thank the Minister again that he recognizes that there was opposition to the sorts of changes that were being proposed by our government on the environmental agreements in the past. So can the Minister explain how his department intends to meaningfully consult with Indigenous governments and the public regarding any amendments to the diamond mine environmental agreements?

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, the decision was actually not made by our government. We were prepared to sign an agreement with Canada; however, because of the concerns of the Aboriginal governments the agreement was not signed.

In December of 2016, there was a joint letter that was sent to the environmental agreement signatories and parties to inform them that the GNWT and INAC recommended that Canada remain a signatory to these agreements but with limited responsibilities.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Kevin O'Reilly

Frame Lake

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, and thanks again to the Minister for that response, but I can assure him I was in the room in my previous life when the changes were being proposed. We couldn't even get the federal government into the room, and it was actually being led by the territorial government, these changes last time around.

I'm pleased to hear the Minister say in this House that he recognizes that there's an ongoing role for the federal government in these agreements. So can the Minister commit to engaging the Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment regarding changes to the diamond mine environmental agreements? Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Mr. Speaker, that was the one unanswered question and the answer would be, yes, that I would continue to update and upgrade the Regular Members as we move forward with the discussions we're having with Canada and the Aboriginal governments.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Such a unique word, "upgrade." Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Question 670-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today with breaking news stories from around the country on a local level we learned from CBC News today about a story with regard to the Power Corporation and some generators which the Power Corporation has ordered, so my questions today are for the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation .

Mr. Speaker, it seems as though these generators have been awarded to a contractor. Some 25 inspections or visits have taken place with regard to the progress of the design and development of these generators, and it seems as though, according to the article, little or no progress has been made to date. So in the interests of protecting our investments,

I want to ask the Minister: has the Power Corporation put any kind of funds towards this $2.5 million contract to date? Is there some form of deposit or funds that ratepayers have paid to date? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can advise that the Power Corporation did order generators from Virdi Power Inc. in June of 2015; I understand that $1.1 million has been paid to the vendor and we're hoping that the generators will arrive by the end of spring. Thank you.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

One of the things that the

article pointed out was that there were three bidders on this particular project, two of which have very familiar names and are very well-known brands and have experience and came within just a few dollars of each other in terms of the bid.

The winning bid, apparently, came in a million dollars shy of that. Would that not have been a red flag to the Power Corporation as something that could be considered a non-responsible bid? Would there not have been some work that needed to be done to further evaluate whether that bid was even a legitimate bid? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

The company that did win the bid, Virdi Power, is a company very well known in the industry. I understand that there was a careful evaluation of the bid made by the Power Corporation. The bid from Virdi was the lowest rated, and among the factors looked at was price.

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Mr. Speaker, I guess the question has to be: now that we've had a delay in receiving these generators, what kind of costs are we incurring? What kind of costs have we had to incur to date? I'm not talking about the deposit or what have you that was put down; I'm talking about locally. These were intended to replace aging infrastructure. Have we got temporary generators in place? What kind of costs have ratepayers incurred to date to take care of this void that was supposed to be filled by these new generators?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

The Power Corporation, when they became aware of this, this problem of delay, went back to the company, and the company to its credit, to compensate for the lack of delivery, the vendor, Virdi, agreed to cover any additional costs, including the costs of the modular rental units that were brought into Jackfish for the winter of 2017 to ensure reliability. So the company will be absorbing those costs.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I had a separate question for my final question, but I now have to ask: what are those costs? If they're going to cover them and we are notably incurring them, what are the costs? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I mentioned, the company, Virdi, which is a very reputable firm, has been in the business for many years, supplies American military among others, has agreed to cover those costs. I do not have a detailed list of the costs, but I can seek that from the Power Corporation.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Question 671-18(2): GNWT Land Lease Rates

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Marci cho, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I made a Member's statement on the cost of land leases, rental. I would like to ask the Minister of Lands questions. Can the Minister explain why the lease costs or lease rates are so high? Thank you.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The lease rates are determined by our land pricing policy, which is based on 10 per cent of the assessed value of the land. I understand this is consistent throughout the NWT and, in fact, is the practice across Canada. Thank you.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Can the Minister explain what's involved in determining that rate?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Yes. The rate is determined on the assessed value which is established by the Department of MACA.

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Earlier I spoke of this being akin to a 10 per cent mill rate. So can the department look at ways to make the lease rates more in line with what are in other parts of the territory? By that, I mean, Mr. Speaker, we don't pay 10 per cent of the value of the property that we live on here in Yellowknife or in some of the larger centres, so I'm not understanding what the Minister means by applications similar across the territory. Can the Minister tell me how that could be brought more in line with other parts of the territory?

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

I think we're talking about two things here: taxes and lease rates. The lease rates, as I say, are based on 10 per cent of the assessed value of the land, and that is consistent throughout the Northwest Territories. They are different things, obviously, taxes and leases, as anybody who owns property knows, and 10 per cent of the assessed value of the land, I suggest, would be a reasonable rental or lease rate.

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh .

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Question 671-18(2): GNWT Land Lease Rates

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, is Lands working with Aboriginal governments involved with the issue around the land titles moving forward with settlement of land rights and all of the other things that are involved in the negotiation? Currently, it appears as though, if you do not have a negotiation position, then it is just 10 per cent.

I guess I am kind of wondering if it is different for the areas where the land rights are settled. Can the Minister tell me how his department can work with the Aboriginal governments to look at this policy? Because it is a very unfair policy to have 10 per cent of the value of the land as an annual cost to either rent or lease the land. Thank you.

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, it is conceded that tax and lease rates are controversial in that they can be different in different areas in the sense that, certainly with respect to taxation of properties outside settled boundaries of communities, that is often the subject or sometimes the subject of a treaty or settled land claim. As to progress with respect to those unsettled claims, perhaps that question could be best addressed to the Minister for DAAIR.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 672-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Funding

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week, during the public meeting on junior kindergarten funding, ECE advised us that junior kindergarten would be funded according to a pupil-teacher ratio of 12:1, but, in the same discussion, the ECE also advised that the funding formula was an allocation tool, not a tool to determine whether or not funding that ECE delivers is adequate to meet schools' and students' needs. So, Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain how this impacts schools and school boards who have identified where funding is inadequate to meet the needs of the students and the schools? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 672-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Funding

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 672-18(2): Junior Kindergarten Funding

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we continue to work with all of our education authorities on the roll-out of junior kindergarten for the 2017-18 school year. It is the responsibility of the education authorities to decide how they are going to best staff their junior kindergarten classrooms with the funding that we provide. The money that we are providing this year, that we committed to.

I am confident that the funding provided to these education authorities will be adequate for these authorities to offer quality early childhood programming for four-year-olds, as I mentioned, that is optional for parents.

More specifically, Mr. Speaker, for the Member's riding, where we have implemented junior kindergarten for the past three years in a lot of our communities, we have spoken with the superintendent and had discussions with her, and we have heard from the superintendent that junior kindergarten is working; it has shown success, great outcomes. As well, she has mentioned that the JK in the Member's riding of Nahendeh is adequately funded. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for that answer, but he has to also realize that I speak for the territories. I sit as the chair of social development, and I am hearing these concerns across the territories. I have to agree with the Minister. It is working well in my region, and I am not saying that. I am saying, across the territories, there are concerns, and this is why we are asking these questions.

Mr. Speaker, ECE has indicated that it will take $5.1 million to implement junior kindergarten in all of the remaining NWT classrooms, not including some one-time spending to make classrooms physically ready and other investments. Can the Minister explain how many junior kindergarten students the ECE is expecting to be enrolled in 2017-18, and how does that compare to past enrolments? When we are looking at including all of the schools, how is it going to be related to the enrolment?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

As the Ministry of Education, Culture and Employment, we want to provide the best services for our teachers, our families, and our students, and we represent all communities across the Northwest Territories. Junior kindergarten has been implemented in 20 of the communities to date. It is working well.

We are seeing some good results, and we are going to continue that. With the 13 communities that are remaining, we want to offer them the same opportunities that we are providing to all 20 communities. Any concerns, questions, we are continuing to consult with our education authorities moving forward.

Mr. Speaker, in the 2017-18 school year, we are looking at estimates of about 533 junior kindergarten students that are going to be enrolled in schools right across the Northwest Territories. Since we began piloting the project, on average we have had about 94 students in the Northwest Territories, in all the schools where we are currently providing it.

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

I thank the Minister for his answer. When we look at the $5.1 million plus one-time spent to prepare classrooms, communication, advertise, and all of the other expenses to implement junior kindergarten in 2017-18 plus spending on junior kindergarten to date, what is the total amount the government has invested in junior kindergarten, Mr. Speaker?

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Since we have started the pilot program in the previous government, we have averaged about $1.4 million to fund the continued operations of junior kindergarten throughout the communities that have been offering it. Our one-time costs that include advertising, review, evaluation, the upgrades of infrastructure, classroom equipment, as well as the engagement that we have had with school boards and the communities, that is an extra $1.14 million that we have had for junior kindergarten since it started.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Shane Thompson

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for that answer. I think we are looking at the bigger centres, and that is why we are seeing a larger increase. With the implementation of junior kindergarten from the start, my understanding is the department required the divisional education councils to provide $2 million of the start-up cost. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister confirm if this $2 million is on top of the $1.4 million? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The $2 million that the Member is referring to was the original cost that we looked at when we implemented junior kindergarten about three years ago. That money was in the last government. The $5.1 million that we are committing in this government to fully fund junior kindergarten is new money, as well as some of the one-time start-up costs. Right now, we are averaging about a million dollars to continue the implementation of junior kindergarten that we have in the 20 communities where we currently provide junior kindergarten.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 673-18(2): Deline Got'ine Library Proposal

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Adding to my Member's statement earlier on the preservation of the Deline culture and heritage by establishing a library similar to ours, but probably a little bit smaller, my first question to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment is: are there appropriate funding support and programs for this initiative? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, and we continue to fund community libraries right across the Northwest Territories. We are working with schools to actually work on making the libraries that are in our schools open to the public. We will share with the Member, as well, that our NWT Literacy Council does also offer funding. We can get the information to the Member, but, in the recent newsletter that the NWT Literacy Council just released, I think it was today, there were grants, also, from Better World Books.

There are literacy grants particularly for libraries, and it is an opportunity to look at unique and innovative ways to do community projects. However, that is for all of the libraries across Canada, but I think here in the North we have an opportunity since we have nine official languages and the culture that we have in the Northwest Territories is to get some of our communities to apply on that funding, which is up to about $15,000 per project, and we could share that information with the Member.

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Question 673-18(2): Deline Got'ine Library Proposal

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

I am very glad for that response here. It is leading toward the establishment of this centre and, aside from the curricular libraries we have in the schools, this will be somewhat uniquely different for the fact that we're supporting a government library that is going to archive the many histories and locations around the Deline Great Bear Lake area, as well as the wealth and knowledge that the elders have, and that has to be captured before, unfortunately hopefully not, the passing on of the individuals who possess that wealth and knowledge.

Is the Minister willing to provide these resources and delegate somebody to work with that government, then you have a government-to-government dialogue going for the incorporation and establishment of this centre?

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Question 673-18(2): Deline Got'ine Library Proposal

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Yes, with the new self-government that Deline Got'ine Government has created I think it is a great opportunity now to start looking at the history, the heritage of the people of Deline, as well as the Sahtu. I know we were just recently in Fort Good Hope.

There was a book launch around the Dene heroes of the Sahtu, and I think that is a really good starting opportunity to work with the self-government to create such a place or use our existing resources to enhance and promote the culture and the heritage of the Deline peoples.

Definitely we can bring in our stakeholders, NWT Literacy Council, as well as our other regional offices and our office in headquarters to start up those discussions.

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Question 673-18(2): Deline Got'ine Library Proposal

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Daniel McNeely

Sahtu

Now, we have $15,000 and some supports here. Will the Minister provide some dates for a stakeholder's meeting?

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Question 673-18(2): Deline Got'ine Library Proposal

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Just to clarify, that $15,000 is application based. It is not through our government, it is actually through a third party that the NWT literacy is promoting through their newsletter. We can share that with the Member and work with the community and put in an application, which would be great if we can get that approved, as well as our continued support through the department for libraries not only in the community but right across the Northwest Territories. We can start those discussions and start looking at some dates where we can sit down and have these discussions.

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Question 673-18(2): Deline Got'ine Library Proposal

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North .

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have some questions for the Minister of Health and Social Services . Earlier I spoke about the Health Information Act, and the purpose of the Health Information Act is to govern the collection, use, disclosure, and protection of personal health information while balancing the right to personal privacy with a need to deliver healthcare services.

I will not debate the Minister about whether or not the

section of the act that applies to privacy impact assessments. I will not debate whether that applies to the health authority amalgamation. I have done that, but the department clearly disagrees with me and the Privacy Commissioner and the Standing Committee on Social Programs.

So I will just ask the Minister: will the department provide assurance to the public and to Members of this House that all of our rights are being properly protected by undertaking a privacy impact assessment as required by law under the Health Information Act? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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Jackson Lafferty

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, under the Health Information Act, the Department of Health and Social Services and its authorities are required to complete privacy impact assessments before implementing a change to or implementing new information systems or communications technology that involved collection, use or disclosure of personal health information.

To be clear, Mr. Speaker, there have been no changes to the Department of Health and Social Services Authorities Health Information Systems as a result of system transformation. These systems were in place and utilized by the authorities prior to amalgamation. So under the legislation we are not required to do a privacy impact assessment on the transformation.

Having said that, Mr. Speaker, we do take privacy very seriously in the Department of Health and Social Services and our authorities. We are currently working towards the implementation of one shared Risk Assessment Management Reporting Information System as well as one shared Clinical Information System, and as per the legislation and our due diligence we are doing PIAs on both of those systems that we are implementing. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

I guess what it comes down to is the department believes that an information system is an electronic information system, a piece of software. I will post on my website my argument against that because clearly the legislation speaks differently to it. So I will take that as a no for now and I will keep fighting this, but I only heard about the Health Information Act because I am a member of the Standing Committee on Government Operations, and now that I know about it I can attest that it is difficult to comprehend.

Our Information and Privacy Commissioner says that it is one of the most complicated and confusing pieces of legislation she has ever seen and she is a lawyer.

Given this, I ask the Minister what has the department done to inform and advise the public of their new rights and obligations under this act?

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, when the Health Information Act was going through the House, the Information Privacy Commissioner actually had a number of concerns and they focused around the need for policies and training to ensure compliance with the Health Information Act. The need for more public awareness efforts to ensure clients know their rights, the EMR system and its ability to address client consent conditions needs to be clear and understood.

Mr. Speaker, we have moved on all of those recommendations. Additional privacy policies are being developed to address privacy breaches, Privacy Impact Assessments, masking the types of things that need to be done in order to ensure our residents' privacy is protected.

We have training modules that have been conducted throughout the Northwest Territories for staff and we are rolling out more modules all the time and more training to ensure our staff, new staff as well as existing staff, get the appropriate training.

Mr. Speaker, we have over 1,500 brochures that have been distributed and 1,000 notices that have been distributed throughout the Northwest Territories to residents who are accessing our systems. We are working on e-versions of those brochures to get that information out so the information is widely distributed so people know their rights, know when they can say they do not want their information shared.

We are still in the early days, Mr. Speaker, with the Health Information Act, and we can get better and better and better as we go on; and we will.

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

I just want to clarify something the Minister said. He said there was no information system changes as a result of the amalgamation, the system transformation as it were. Now, was he referring only to the electronic system because what a system is it? Is a way of organizing, collecting, and storing information. It is not necessarily electronic. It could be handwritten, and my understanding was this Health Transformation System, the health transformation was because there was eight authorities with eight different ways of doing things.

So are the eight authorities which are now one, are they still doing things differently or did they change the way they are doing things under the system transformation? So I just want to clear that up with the Minister.

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

To be clear, once again, under the Health Information Act the Department of Health and Social Services are required to complete Privacy Impact Assessments before implementing a change to or implementing a new information system or communications technology that involves, and I think this is the key point, the collection, use, or disclosure of personal health information.

Mr. Speaker, we already had EMR in the Northwest Territories and we were rolling it out throughout the Northwest Territories. We did not change that; that was still the same. With the health amalgamation moving to a single authority we were able to put in place standard protocols for procedure and actions when people present. That is different than dealing with the personal health information. The Health Information Act is dealing with personal health information.

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Hay River North .

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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R.J. Simpson

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Moving on, I understand that the act obligates health information custodians, like the health authorities, to ensure that health information is protected. The electronic information system used to collect and store information doesn't have the functionality to shield or protect information from being accessed when an individual requests that information not be made available to a certain custodian.

If you were to put in a request and say I don't want this pharmacy or this pharmacist having access to this information, you have to write a letter to someone at the department and they are supposed to honour that request, yet the system doesn't allow for that. What steps are being taken to ensure that these sort of requests can be honoured in the future? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the department has actually been working with TELUS to upgrade our EMR to be able to mask or hide client information to address consent conditions brought forward by clients, those individuals who don't want their information seen. Limited masking is currently available in the EMR but there is an upgrade that is currently being installed and tested. It was put in place in September 2016. We are doing some testing on it now that will do exactly what the Member is asking. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 674-18(2): Health Information Act Implementation

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The Speaker

Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North .

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Question 675-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier I was raising some questions with the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation . The Minister indicated that he didn't in fact have costs with him as it related to how much has been incurred to date due to the delays of not receiving these generators on time. Can the Minister commit to actually getting us the costs, a breakout of these costs, and when can we expect them? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 675-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Jackson Lafferty

Masi. Minister responsible for the Northwest Territories Power Corporation .

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Question 675-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

Yes, Mr. Speaker. I only became aware of this issue today after listening to the news on the CBC this morning. I will undertake to request the figures from the Power Corporation and will, upon receipt, share them with the Member opposite. Thank you.

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Question 675-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Cory Vanthuyne

Yellowknife North

I find that interesting that the Minister responsible for the Power Corporation has only found out now about these delays that might have incurred cost to them and that it was in fact found out through the news article.

To the question, though, Mr. Speaker, we do a lot of business in the United States as a government. There is obviously a difference sometimes in dollar amounts based on the Canadian dollar. Now that we have waited a significant period of time for these generators, the Canadian dollar has gone down. It was a $2.5 million awarded contract. Are we going to expect to see a supplementary appropriation for any kind of increases to this contract given that the Canadian dollar has gone down? Will we see an adjustment supplementary appropriation?

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Question 675-18(2): New Generators For Yellowknife Power Plant

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Louis Sebert

Thebacha

I would not expect that we would. I am not certain whether in Canadian or American dollars the contract was entered into. Often, contracts with American providers are entered into in American dollars. That is simply the way of the world. I am not expecting there to be any significant additional costs as a result of the change of dollar. I am not certain what the contract said about that.

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