Debates of Feb. 23rd, 2015

This is page numbers 5727 – 5768 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was know .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Anti-Poverty Round Table And Territorial Action Plan

Update On The Implementation Of The Economic Opportunities Strategy

Hay River Economic Opportunities

Income Support Policy

Senior Cager Basketball Tournament

Gameti Hand Games Tournament

Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

Dene Language Community Name Changes

Yellowknife Gathering Of Sahtu Beneficiaries

Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

Paul Stipdonk Soccer Tournament

2015 RCMP/firefighters Memorial Hockey Challenge

GNWT Position Vacancies In Mackenzie Delta

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Income Support Policy

Yellowknife Diesel Generation

Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

Skills For Success Initiative

Deline Palliative Care Study

Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

Deline Access Road

Skills For Success Initiative

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Bill 12: Northern Employee Benefits Services Pension Plan Act Bill 43:

An Act To Amend The Borrowing Authorization Act

Tabled Document 102-17(5): Sharing, Love And Respect: Report On The Deliberations Of The 2014 NWT Anti-Poverty Round Table

Workplace Safety At Stanton Territorial Hospital

Recorded Vote

Bill 46: Deline Final Self-Government Agreement Act

Recorded Vote

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:31 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Abernethy .

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Minister's Statement 157-17(5): Anti-Poverty Round Table And Territorial Action Plan

Ministers’ Statements

Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

Mr. Speaker, the late Nelson Mandela said that overcoming poverty is not a gesture of charity. It is

an act of justice. It is the protection of a fundamental human right; the right to dignity and a decent life. As a government, we are committed to helping residents be self-reliant and to live with dignity. We have made investments in a wide range of programs, including education, housing, early childhood development, health promotion and addiction prevention and treatment, to help reduce and prevent poverty in our territory. However, government alone cannot eliminate poverty. It takes a coordinated response from communities, Aboriginal governments, non-government organizations and businesses.

Annual anti-poverty round tables that engage representatives from all sectors in every region provide an important way to share success stories and identify common issues and priorities. These collective discussions help align the poverty reduction efforts of all partners for maximum impact.

On December 2 and 3, 2014, the second annual NWT Anti-Poverty Round Table was held in Yellowknife. Over 100 delegates from community organizations, Aboriginal and community governments, non-governmental organizations and businesses from every region of the NWT came together to identify and address key priorities to reduce and prevent poverty. The common themes that emerged from the round table were food security, homelessness, on-the-land programs, early childhood and wellness.

Mr. Speaker, the atmosphere at the round table was positive and encouraging. We are using input gathered at this event to finalize a territorial Anti-Poverty Action Plan.

This territorial action plan, developed under the leadership of the Anti-Poverty Advisory Committee I established last year, is a multi-stakeholder plan that will address priorities identified by stakeholders and provide a roadmap to help guide our collective efforts for reducing and preventing poverty.

Another important component of the fight against poverty is the GNWT Anti-Poverty Fund. This $500,000 fund was created to support community-based anti-poverty efforts and allow territorial stakeholders to submit funding proposals for initiatives to tackle poverty or symptoms of poverty in their communities, regions or at a territorial level. Fourteen projects, covering a range of innovative activities from communities across the NWT, are currently being funded and we anticipate receiving even more applications for the 2015 fund.

Mr. Speaker, healthy, educated people free from poverty is one of the goals of the Assembly and the Government of the Northwest Territories. It is only by forming a strong circle of partnerships that we can be successful in reducing and preventing poverty. Working together we will help residents live with dignity and self-reliance. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 157-17(5): Anti-Poverty Round Table And Territorial Action Plan

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Minister's Statement 158-17(5): Update On The Implementation Of The Economic Opportunities Strategy

Ministers’ Statements

Kam Lake

David Ramsay

Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment

Mr. Speaker, the NWT Economic Opportunities Strategy, or EOS, is the most informed approach ever taken to advancing economic development in the NWT. Since the implementation plan for the EOS was tabled last October, we have been working hard to put the recommendations and initiatives outlined in the strategy in place.

Today I would like to update Members on the progress we are making on a few of these initiatives.

Recognizing the opportunities that tourism offers for economic development throughout the NWT, several EOS recommendations reflect how to capitalize on these opportunities.

This year ITI and NWT Tourism formalized a two-year contribution agreement in which NWT Tourism would develop a convention bureau to attract and facilitate business tourism, conferences and industry events to the NWT. The convention bureau is already working to attract meetings and conventions to the NWT, and I am confident that all regions will benefit from visitors who travel to other parts of the territory before and after their meetings.

We have also reached an agreement with the Canadian Executive Service Organization to strengthen our Tourism Business Mentorship Program, and we continue to work with the Aboriginal Tourism Advisory Council to establish cultural tourism products for the NWT. Destination Deline is a partnered initiative between the community and ITI and a great example of a proven viable model for attracting tour groups to the NWT’s smaller communities.

Mr. Speaker, we have also been responding to recommendations to grow a stable and attractive entrepreneurial environment in our territory. This includes exploring opportunities to diversify our economy and strengthen the fishery, film and agriculture sectors.

Last month we launched the Great Slave Lake Fresh Fish brand and accompanying marketing campaign. This is the first element of a multi-pronged initiative to revitalize our territory’s fishing industry.

To support the film sector, we have put a pilot rebate program in place. For the first time in the NWT, this program will provide financial incentives to productions filming on location in our territory.

We are also developing an agriculture strategy to grow our territory’s rapidly evolving agriculture sector with our partners, the NWT Association of Communities, the Territorial Farmers Association and the Northern Farm Training Institute. Also, using a partnered approach, the NWT Chamber of Commerce is leading an initiative with ITI, the Northern Aboriginal Business Association and CanNor to develop an information and media campaign promoting and encouraging small business growth in the NWT, and we are also developing a marketing plan that will increase

awareness and purchase of made-in-the-NWT products.

In response to services that entrepreneurs have said they need, we are connecting businesses and entrepreneurs in the NWT’s small communities with professional bookkeeping and accounting services, through the Professional and Financial Support Program.

We are streamlining information about funding programs and services through a new online database.

Mr. Speaker, our partnered approach to advance the recommendations set out in the EOS is key to this strategy’s success.

Our partnership with CanNor has offered us the opportunity to leverage significant joint funding efforts in support of advancing everything from geoscience, to agriculture to tourism.

This includes CanNor funding of $5.3 million to build the geoscience knowledge base of the Lac de Gras region, joint funding of $4.2 million to establish a permanent campus for the Northern Farm Training Institute in Hay River and the launch of the Northern Greenhouse Initiative to advance the commercialization and productivity of greenhouse projects across the North; and the most recent announcement of joint CanNor funding of over $10 million in our tourism industry, which will be focused on smaller communities with emerging tourism opportunities.

Mr. Speaker, the responsibility of developing a strong economy belongs to us all as we work to achieve our goal of a diversified economy that provides all communities with opportunities and choices. I look forward to sharing a complete report of all the work, initiatives and investments that we have taken to advance the EOS recommendations with Members later this spring. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Minister's Statement 158-17(5): Update On The Implementation Of The Economic Opportunities Strategy

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Hay River Economic Opportunities

Members’ Statements

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s interesting that I’m going on the heels of such a happy report from the Minister of ITI , because today it’s Monday. I don’t know if I’m in a Monday mood or what, but I want to talk about Hay River. Hay River, Hay River, the Hub of the North.

My question to this government is: Who cares about Hay River, the second largest community in the Northwest Territories? People say things like, I like Hay River, I like coming to Hay River, but that’s

not going to cut it. That’s not going to be good enough. They say Hay River is resilient, they’ll figure it out. I’m tired of being the happy, optimistic champions of all things economic and all things entrepreneurial.

Hay River needs some help. The absolute success of Hay River over the years has been its diversified economy and was made up of things like tourism, manufacturing, agriculture, the commercial fishery, the transportation hub, the railhead of the North. But, Mr. Speaker, lots of these things are being left to languish right now.

You know, it seems that we can spend – I don’t know; I don’t want to say the number, I don’t know how big it is – you know, to go off, well, let’s just say hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to China and Japan to get more tourists for the Northwest Territories. But those tens of thousands of tourists are coming to Yellowknife. I mean, let’s call a spade a spade. They’re not coming anywhere else.

Where was this government when the Greyhound bus service, which is a national bus service, cut off its bus service to Hay River? Oh, that was only 25 little tourists getting off the bus every week in Hay River. Oh, but we don’t care about them. But we sure care about those tens of thousands that are coming to Yellowknife. But anyway, where was our government? The Yukon government effectively lobbied Greyhound, and guess what? The Greyhound bus still goes to Whitehorse today.

In the manufacturing sector, Hay River is innovative. They put their money where their mouth is. They put their money on the table when it comes to manufacturing. But we shouldn’t, as MLAs, have to intercept contracts going out to southern companies for something that can be manufactured in Hay River. We shouldn’t have to have a political intervention every time somebody in the manufacturing sector draws that to our attention. There should be a mindset in the government, like, hey, this can be done in the North, let’s figure it out.

Agriculture, the Minister spoke to that here today, and we are seeing some. But I give a lot of the credit to the federal government and to people like Jackie Milne. Sorry, our government has been saying they’re going to have an Agriculture Policy. They’ve been saying that for the last 20 years. It’s coming. So is Christmas. We haven’t got it yet.

Mr. Speaker, I guess I made a too long list of things to complain about today because I haven’t even made it through half of them, but that’s the end of my time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Hay River Economic Opportunities

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Income Support Policy

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Not too long ago I spoke about what I consider to be punitive income support policies. I was, and still am, particularly concerned with the Minister of Education ’s view that an RRSP, a retirement savings plan, is considered a rainy day fund by the department and that an RRSP must be cashed in for a client to access income support.

With the help of our very capable Legislative Assembly staff, I did a little investigating of income support policies across Canada, and surprise, surprise, most provinces and territories exempt RRSPs from consideration as income for income support purposes. With slight variations, almost everywhere in Canada, except in the NWT, income support clients can keep their RRSP funds. As long as the funds in the RRSP are locked in, meaning they cannot be cashed in before retirement, then they are not considered when calculating income support payments.

In Newfoundland and Labrador, Saskatchewan, British Columbia, Nunavut, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Ontario the client’s locked-in RRSP is exempt. In Quebec and Alberta, RRSPs are exempt up to a certain value, $60,000 and $100,000.

Mr. Speaker, 10 of the 12 jurisdictions I could check recognize RRSPs as a savings tool and allow income support clients to keep that safety net for retirement.

When I questioned the Minister previously, he made sure to tell me that registered savings disabilities plans and registered education savings plans are safe from liquidation for income support purposes. The income support manual states, “A Registered Disabilities Savings Plan, RDSP, is a savings plan to help parents and others save for the long-term financial security of a person who is eligible for the disability tax credit.” So, it’s okay in the NWT for a client to save for a child’s future, but it’s not okay for the same client to save for their own financial future.

Do we value our elders? I keep hearing that we do, but this policy flies in the face of that. It ensures that our seniors, our elders, will have no savings to top up their Canada Pension Plan payments when they retire. It’s well known that seniors are often our poorest residents, usually because they have no pension other than Canada Pension Plan. Our policy is contradictory to most other Canadian jurisdictions where locked-in RRSPs are excluded. If that is so, why do we have so many seniors and elders who can barely make ends meet?

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Income Support Policy

Members’ Statements

Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

The NWT income support policy in regards to RRSPs puts people into poverty and ensures that they stay there right through retirement and into old age.

Mr. Speaker, I will have some questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment at the appropriate time. Thank you.

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Income Support Policy

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Senior Cager Basketball Tournament

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week I stood up in the House and I congratulated our young boys who were at the basketball championship. I’m happy and proud to say that our 19-and-under boys won the championship again this weekend. It’s the first time in about 30 years that Inuvik has won that championship.

They had a real great game. They won 61 to 56 over a very hard, very sportsmanlike St. Pat’s team, and I want to thank the coach and the St. Pat’s boys for making the game very exciting for everybody who was in attendance.

I would say there are a few boys on that team that are going to be leaving high school this year, and it was really great to see them leave with such a great memory that they’re going to cherish for the rest of their lives.

This weekend was a great weekend of basketball. We had teams from Lutselk’e for the first time ever. We had a team from Deline win a school banner, and we had some from Cambridge Bay attend as well. But this couldn’t all be possible without sponsorship. The NWT Power Corporation has been sponsoring that tournament for years, so I want to give them the recognition that they deserve.

Just like last week, I want to take this opportunity to thank the volunteers, the chaperones and both schools for hosting a very successful Cager Tournament this weekend. I would also like to make a special thank you and acknowledgement to all the coaches for their dedication, their time, their guidance and their support for our youth in the small communities and throughout the Northwest Territories. Two in particular that I’d like to recognize are the coaches for the East Three Eagles Basketball Team, Mr. Will Logan and Mr. Al Gillis, who have worked with these boys for years.

For them to finally win a championship, especially some of those boys leaving school this year, they deserve that championship. They worked hard, they gave sound advice to the athletes and they showed a lot of sportsmanship to the referees, to the other teams, to the coaches and they did a great job.

Just before I finish off my Member’s statement here, I’d like to recognize a young gentleman, Mr. Liam Larocque. He’s only 15 years old. He moved

up into the senior division and played for Inuvik and he was recognized as the tournament MVP. So, great job, boys, and I look forward to seeing more basketball championships in the future. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Senior Cager Basketball Tournament

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Gameti Hand Games Tournament

Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to talk about this weekend. I happened to drive to Gameti for the first annual John D. Quitte Men's Hand Game Tournament. I truly appreciated the invitation of the Tlicho chiefs that encouraged me to go there, and more particularly, I want to thank Chief Wedawin for his personal welcome to his community.

I drove that winter road and I have to say it was a wonderful experience, unlike some of my experiences on Highway No. 7, of course, but that’s a story for another day. Several community members said that they look forward to the year that their winter road becomes a real highway, and they look forward to seeing that in the capital plan with some real money behind it.

Even though I drove the winter road and it took about four and a half hours to get there, the drive was certainly well worth every moment of it. The community of Gameti was very welcoming from the moment I got there. When I got there I ran into Minister Jackson Lafferty , who was enjoying the games himself.

From the moment I stepped into the community hall, the hand games were being played and it was full of excitement from everyone. It was tremendously exciting to see the energy of our youth, and it was obvious to me the joy of those young at heart who were having a fantastic time. Mr. Speaker, that’s a nice way of describing the elders.

The Tlicho region, like all our northern regions, does such a wonderful job of putting on their community events and their cultural games. This was no exception. While I was there, they gave me an opportunity to speak and address the crowd, and I made sure I underscored how important these community events are to instilling culture and language in our people.

I even got to do a little drumming, although I don’t know if I’ll be welcomed back to drum again. But I certainly had a great time doing the drumming.

In closing, I want to say that I would describe that, with my modest experience around hand games, I didn’t get to play this time, but I would certainly say it is the excuse for the future for me to attend my next event. I want to finish by saying this is a breathtaking opportunity that I would encourage all

Northerners to get involved and enjoy the culture that’s around us. It’s an experience you’ll remember for a lifetime. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Gameti Hand Games Tournament

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A Medical Travel Policy gap causing grief for northern families needs resolution. Specifically, problems are arising for those who have children going to school in southern Canada under the Student Financial Assistance program and who fall ill and require hospitalization or treatment. At a time when these kids desperately need them, their parents are unable to access travel support to attend them because the medical travel is not initiated in the Northwest Territories. Yet if these students had fallen ill at home, their own plus an escort’s travel costs would be covered to travel south for treatment.

As an example, take a family whose child is going to school in Alberta and who is suddenly diagnosed with cancer. Alone and away from home, she desperately needs the support of her parents who live in the North. While funding for her mother’s travel is initially approved, the second application for a parent to be with her during the actual surgery is denied with an attempt at clawing back the original support. Far from theoretical, this has actually happened. This family was denied any further medical travel assistance.

The reason for denial by Health and Social Services was that only medical travel originating in the NWT is covered. Yet these students are NWT residents fully covered by NWT health care and parental travel originates at home in the NWT.

The issue of needing third-party health insurance when travelling outside of the NWT is a real issue, and I appreciate the profile my colleague Mr. Bouchard has brought to it. But this is not relevant to this policy gap. School students outside the NWT and supported by our SFA are fully covered under our Health Care Plan. If it is relevant at all, SFA should ensure that a group insurance plan is in place for the northern students it funds.

Northern students attending school in southern Canada should be treated as if they are residents in the Northwest Territories, and if they are unfortunate enough to require hospitalization or treatment for serious illness, they should be able to expect that a parent can be there to support them in their time of need.

I understand that the seemingly continual review of our Medical Travel Policy is still underway, this time a medical escort policy is underway again. I urge the Minister to close this medical assistance travel

policy gap and assure our residents the support they need and deserve, both to ensure proper care and to ensure the interest in remaining as residents.

I will have questions.

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Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Dene Language Community Name Changes

Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. [Translation] About 400 years ago there was now here in the Northwest Territories our communities, we liked to name our communities using our Dene language. I feel that would strongly support the culture and also the people that have access to schools and, therefore, the history. If they have to change the names to a Dene name they would have to go through MACA.

In the past there were other communities like Tuktoyaktuk in the 1950s. When they changed their name in 1993, Fort Franklin, they reverted back to their Dene name of Deline. Tsiigehtchic also changed their name in 2006. Ulukhaktok also changed their name back to their Inuit name.

The Hay River Reserve is presently K’atlodeeche and Fort Providence is called Zhahti Koe and Kakisa is called Ka’a’gee tu. If we could name our communities in our Dene language, we would feel proud and our culture would be strong and also make the people feel good about their language and their culture. Perhaps if we talked about it those Dene names would be accomplished.

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Dene Language Community Name Changes

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

[Microphone turned off]… Mr. Yakeleya .

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Yellowknife Gathering Of Sahtu Beneficiaries

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This past weekend, specifically yesterday, the grounds in Yellowknife were hopping. About close to 500 people from the Sahtu region live in Yellowknife. So, yesterday they had their first ever Sahtu Dene-Metis beneficiary gathering for all beneficiaries that live here in Yellowknife. People come here for school, to raise their families, for work, whatever.

It was the unofficial Sahtu day here in Yellowknife. It was a gathering of the large families that came together yesterday. The board of directors said, you know, we have close to 40 percent of listed

beneficiaries living here in Yellowknife, let’s get together.

There was a feast, there were giveaways, there was a dance. They had a lot of caribou meat to give to the families and they loved it. When they started playing the drums, the people said that just lifted them right up, and they came into the hall to hear the drums and they started to dance. The young kids were running around more so because of the activities for them, also, but for the fun they had in saying this is a family that’s coming together. They’ve been apart in the large city. We don’t get together much and the land claims, through their initiatives, brought everyone together. People had fun yesterday.

That’s the thing about our land claim. People were there to encourage people to go back to school, get a job, work hard, work the land claim. It’s been over 20 years. They’re saying that this land claim was put in for a reason. You are to go out and get your education but also remember the culture.

Yesterday when they were playing the drums and playing the fiddle, people had fun, they got together. There were a few visitors from the Akaitcho, the Deh Cho, even an old lady from Kugluktuk came over and as soon as the drums started playing, she walked right over into the hall and started dancing.

So, I wanted to say thank you to the people in Yellowknife for hosting a good event for the Sahtu people.

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Yellowknife Gathering Of Sahtu Beneficiaries

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to talk about decentralization. I’ve spoken of this many times in the House. I know Hay River has had some opportunities to get some of this decentralization, but I’m still a little bit disturbed in the fact that we don’t have a general plan for decentralization. We don’t have a plan of how many jobs are going to get out to the smaller communities, how we’re going to do that.

When we started in this Assembly, it was a priority. We were looking at all the issues that are there, whether it’s housing or office space, or how do we do that staffing. We’ve heard that from HR about staffing in those communities.

We need to continue to work on that. We need to continue to figure out a plan going forward. We’ve had Members concerned about how it’s being implemented. How are those people that are being moved, how are they being told? Are they being told three months away, two months away, or a year ahead? Maybe we should have a better plan to go forward on decentralization. It’s important.

We know the populations are moving to Yellowknife. We just heard a bunch of people from different regions are in Yellowknife. We need to move those people back out to their regions, out to their communities when we get jobs out that way. We need to work on decentralization more. We have to have a bigger plan and figure out how all these departments can work together to figure out a plan to get jobs in all of the small communities and out in the public. Thank you.

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Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Paul Stipdonk Soccer Tournament

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I just want to speak about a sporting event as well. I was home for the weekend. It was a pleasure to attend the second annual Paul Stipdonk under-12 soccer tournament. I spoke in the House before about him. Paul was an avid soccer coach and teacher in Fort Simpson, and a big thanks goes out to the Stipdonks who allowed the organizers to pay tribute to a great man for a second year.

All ages were involved in the sport of soccer this weekend. There were travellers from Fort Liard, Behchoko, under-12-teams, as well. We spoke in this House last week about mental health. Like the arts, children who are involved in sports have improved self-esteem and improved mental health and awareness and improved schooling.

I think the best part of the whole tournament was they actually had an under-three category there. We were watching little tykes chase soccer balls. It was outstanding and awesome for all the parents involved to watch their youngest getting involved in soccer. I’m sure that one day those three-year-olds and under will be on a soccer team representing Fort Simpson at the Arctic Winter Games.

I just want to extend a big thanks to the Bompas Elementary School, the teachers, coaches and volunteers, as well as to Thomas Simpson School, Village of Fort Simpson recreational staff and to the communities that travelled to Fort Simpson. Mahsi cho. It was great to see that event continue and I look forward to the one next year. Mahsi.

MR. SPEAKER : Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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2015 RCMP/firefighters Memorial Hockey Challenge

Members’ Statements

Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Great. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last Saturday, on February 21, 2015, I had the privilege of emceeing while Yellowknife played host to the 9th Annual Memorial Hockey Challenge in

which our fire department and our RCMP squared off in a good old-fashioned hockey game.

This annual event honours their colleagues, Yellowknife firefighters Cyril Fyfe and Kevin Olson and Hay River RCMP officer Chris Worden, who lost their lives while in service.

I am pleased to say that my legislative colleagues MLA Alfred Moses , MLA Robert Bouchard , Minister Glen Abernethy , Minister Dave Ramsay and Premier Bob McLeod were in attendance. Minister Ramsay was actually playing for the RCMP team that night and, incredibly, against all odds, didn’t require the use of a defibrillator.

---Laughter

In fact, although he did score a goal, his team was unable to win that night in overtime.

Although this evening was about fallen comrades and heroes, this event was about a community coming together to help support an incredible Range Lake little boy and his family. The city has come to know the struggles of “The Incredible Malcolm” and the strength he is finding with our community’s support.

Although we know all too well the issues of cost of living, wanting better health care and other various obstacles that overwhelm us in our day-to-day activities, it is comforting to know that through all this a community can rise to the occasion and find strength to persevere. I’m proud to say this is a strong community that has done incredible things for its residents, and I’m extremely humbled by the many sponsors, donors and volunteers that give so much.

I wanted to finish by saying thank you to our men and women in uniform who keep us safe, and for our fallen heroes, we are grateful. We will never forget your sacrifice. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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GNWT Position Vacancies In Mackenzie Delta

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It often takes a long time to fill vacant jobs in our government, especially in our smaller communities. The irony is that this is where jobs are needed the most and where unemployment is the highest. Even one job, even one new employee can make a real difference in a community as small as Tsiigehtchic, or even Fort McPherson.

I know one problem is matching local skills to the jobs available. I hear from Minister Lafferty that his department is improving education and training, and I really look forward to some of the good results.

The job vacancy statistics are a little surprising. In my riding, the largest community, Fort McPherson, had the highest vacancy rate last year. Mind you,

the numbers, the latest ones that I get from Human Resources are from April 2014. So, I am hoping to see some progress since then, but it seems to me that there are still too many jobs vacant.

The final part of this story is one that does not get enough attention. What is the impact of these vacant jobs on our services to the public, and how much extra work and overtime end up as a burden on our other staff?

I have two suggestions, and the first one is: do more training that is linked to the vacant jobs available. The second is: use a little ingenuity in looking for people to fill our jobs in our small communities. Hosting those jobs on the GNWT website and waiting, well, it’s probably not enough to get the job done anytime soon.

I’ll have questions for the Minister later today. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Today, colleagues, I’d like to welcome Julia Pokiak-Trennert, originally from Tuktoyaktuk, and her daughter Brendalynn, who works with us here at the Assembly. Ms. Trennert was also a participant in our 2012 Elders Parliament. Welcome to the House. Mr. Abernethy .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize a couple people in the gallery. I can’t see if two of them are behind me, but I’m hoping they’re there. Ms. Rachel Kirizopoulos, who is the executive assistant/research analyst for the office of the chief public health officer, Dr. Andre Corriveau, who has been working with the anti-poverty file with us, as well as Mr. Grant Gowans, who is the senior advisor of anti-poverty.

I’d also like to take the opportunity to recognize a respected consultant for fundraising, communications and advocacy issues, a member of various committees and boards for a number of NGOs in Yellowknife and a current member of the ministerial Anti-Poverty Action Plan Advisory Committee, Ms. Julie Green. Thank you for all you’ve done to support the initiative. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d also like to take this opportunity to recognize a former Tuktoyaktuk resident but a resident of Hay River, Julie Trennert. She’s done many, many things, but I would like to also say that she and her daughter Brendalynn are outstanding, renowned artisans. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Mr. Hawkins .

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thanks, Mr. Speaker. I too wish to acknowledge and recognize a couple constituents. First off, Ms. Julie Green, a well-known person here in Yellowknife for her many activities. Thank you very much for your hard work. I believe Grant Gowans is still a constituent of Yellowknife Centre, if he hasn’t moved and, of course, if he’s still up there. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Mr. Moses .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to recognize a couple people up in the gallery today: Ms. Julie Green, who is a very strong community advocate and one for the Anti-Poverty Strategy. I really appreciate what she does for the small communities and speaking up for the small communities. I’d like to recognize Mr. Grant Gowans who’s been a childhood friend of mine. He grew up in Inuvik and now resides in Yellowknife. But he’s taken on a new portfolio and I wish him luck in that portfolio.

I’d also like to recognize Mr. Andre Corriveau. He’s been a very strong mentor of mine but also a very strong health advocate for people of the Northwest Territories. Welcome, and I hope you enjoy the proceedings. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . Mr. Bromley .

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d also like to recognize Dr. Andre Corriveau, a resident of Weledeh and a well-known member of Yellowknife; also Julie Green who is also well known for all her work on the many social issues including the poverty one, but all the related ones, as well, housing and so on. Thanks to those for attending today. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . I welcome everybody here in the public gallery today. Thank you for taking an interest in our proceedings.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to follow up on my statement and ask some questions to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . When I questioned the Minister previously, he told me that he would consider reviewing policy. I’d like to ask the Minister, to start off, considering the information regarding locked-in RRSPs right across the country, will he consider

revising our income support policy with regards to registered retirement savings plans? Thank you.

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Within our policy there are amendments every now and then, and this is an area that I spoke to last week I believe it was. Making some changes to a policy obviously comes from the general public’s feedback and also the MLAs. If there is an area that we need to make some changes, then there is an opportunity to do so.

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

To the Minister: I guess I would say that if there is a willingness to make changes, this would seem to me to be a change that should be made sooner rather than later. The Minister seems to suggest that he has to wait for changes to be suggested from the public or from us as MLAs. Well, I’m making the suggestion. It seems to me that the policy says that it’s okay to save for certain things but it’s not okay to save for other things.

If the money is not available to be cashed in, I’d like to ask the Minister, will he not wait for more complaints but will he, in the next month, look at revising this policy?

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

When we speak to income support and Income Assistance program, it is a program of last resort that helps the most vulnerable of community members in the Northwest Territories. When I speak of vulnerable citizens, I mean those that do not have anything to fall back on as opposed to RRSP, that there is financial support that is available to them.

We have to be very careful how we deal with policy changes when it comes to these particular areas. That’s why I am very cautious of changing the policies with respect to this particular area that we are faced with.

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I can appreciate that we need to be cautious, but I only asked the Minister if he would consider looking at revising the policy.

I would like to ask the Minister if he would like me to forward the information on RRSPs in other jurisdictions which I have gathered.

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Any information that the Members can contribute to our decision-making will be valuable. Also, my department, obviously, has done some research, as well, so we can compile all that information, and if changes are necessary then we have to seriously look at those areas.

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Ms. Bisaro .

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Minister: I guess if his department has done some research, he should know by now that we are out of

step with the rest of the country, and I think we ought to get back in step.

I asked the Minister a number of weeks ago whether or not there’s a cost to the department to allow somebody to keep their RRSP to allow them to have something to fall back on when they eventually retire or when they get to old age.

I would like to ask the Minister, again, is there, in his mind, any cost to the government for allowing an individual to keep their RRSP?

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Anytime we do a payment plan or subsidy to our clientele, obviously, there is a cost factor to it. I don’t have the actual figures because this is the first of its kind of RRSP clientele requesting income security area. We need to do further work in this area of the cost factor. Once the Member is compiling all the information with my department, we should have a clear idea of where we stand on this.

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Question 677-17(5): Income Support Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to use the opportunity to ask some questions to the Minister of the Northwest Territories Power Corp about the latest damage and repair process that’s happening. As I see news reports point that it’s costing the NWT Power Corp over $40,000 a day additional to run that operation, that burden is going to fall on someone. Maybe the Minister can highlight what’s being done and how we’ll recover some of that process to make sure that that cost isn’t falling on the NWT residents.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The Minister responsible for the Power Corporation , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. They are looking at the repairs. We, earlier on, made a contribution of $20 million to the Power Corporation to offset some of the diesel requirements due to the low water. This is related but not directly tied to that. However, we had anticipated that we would be saving some money with the lowering price of diesel and that we will be using that $20 million to offset the additional diesel costs as the appropriate repairs are affected. Thank you.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you. What’s the anticipated cost of this particular problem that we have going on right now? Can the Minister qualify the additional cost it’s going to run? Although he’d pointed out how we’re going to pay for it, let’s find out exactly how much we think it’s going to cost. Thank you.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

I don’t have a definitive estimate at this point, but I will keep the

House up to date when I do get that number. Thank you.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Is the Minister able to speak to the issue of when we think it will be repaired? I mean, I can do my own math at $40,000 a day. The territorial resident needs to appreciate and understand are these parts available, are we going to see the NWT Power Corp run on diesel for how long? That’s part of the issue here, is we’ve got a dedicated service, which only has parts that probably can be sourced from one or two places in the world, who knows where, and we need to appreciate how long and how complex this is. So can the Minister speak to the availability of this? Thank you.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Those are all legitimate, real concerns that we are as well very cognizant of, and as we plan to affect repairs, those are issues that are being addressed. Thank you.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

If we estimate that this could take – one day is $40,000 – six weeks, that’s almost $1.7 million. This is certainly an expensive meter running at the cost of the NWT taxpayers.

Is the Minister able to update us at all other than what the media report has already covered out there? Otherwise, we’re just sitting in the dark not knowing what’s happening and it’s very difficult to deliver any type of accountability on this particular initiative. It’s not about criticism, it’s about transparency as to what’s happening and what will taxpayers be on the hook for. Thank you.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you. I will commit to provide all the most current information to the Members before the end of the week. Thank you.

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Question 678-17(5): Yellowknife Diesel Generation

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 679-17(5): Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to follow up on my Member’s statement today on the subject of medical travel for the parents of children who are attending school in southern Canada and diagnosed with serious illnesses. So, for the Minister of Health and Social Services , these youth obviously need a parent with them at this stressful time and normally would be escorted by a parent to their treatments if the child’s travel originated in the NWT. There’s a clear policy gap here. I understand that there’s a review of the medical escort policy underway.

Can the Minister tell me who is conducting the review and if this specific policy gap is being addressed by this review? Mahsi.

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Question 679-17(5): Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The Minister of Health , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 679-17(5): Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We actually have a private organization doing the current review of the medical, or escort portion of the contract. I do forget the name of the provider, but I will get that information for the Member. I have asked the department to make sure that this is one of the issues that’s being discussed. To that point, I’ve also asked that the group that’s doing the review actually get in touch with the family that is in this particular situation. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thanks to the Minister. I know the Minister is keenly interested in this and very open to investigating and considering the various perspectives.

This review is a welcome one, of course, and long overdue. I’m sure that there are many people that could provide valuable insight and have experiences to relate, such as my constituents.

How is the Minister engaging the people of the North for input into this review? Mahsi.

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Question 679-17(5): Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you. I went into some detail on this when we were in front of Committee of the Whole, but at this point the working group has actually gone out to a number of communities in the Northwest Territories. What we’re trying to do is get a small community, a large community and a remote community so we can get a variety of different inputs and opinions. We’re also looking at all the data that’s been gathered on medical travel over many, many, many years. So that’s been thrown into the mix. There will be some discussions with different stakeholders and groups in Yellowknife. They’ve also been in touch with Larga House as somebody who is a recipient of our residents and our escorts.

This particular review is focused around escorts. There’s going to be one later this year on an appeal process and then we’re going to be looking at some other portions of that Medical Travel Policy, as well, as we go through 2015-2016. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you to the Minister for his response. I’m sure he’s hearing from MLAs who have constituents with ideas to contribute.

Medical travel insurance for people travelling outside the Territories has been rightly suggested for NWT residents who travel. The issue of SFA, Student Financial Assistance, sponsoring students possibly needing such extra coverage, which could possibly include medical travel support for parents when appropriate, seems to me a special case that could be covered under a group insurance plan included in SFA for sponsored students.

As the Minister responsible for social programs, Health and Social Services, is this idea of group insurance by SFA for NWT students in this situation something he would investigate and consider? Thank you.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I’m not aware of any group insurance that Education, Culture and Employment might provide to students that are on SFA, but I’ve already asked the deputy minister of Health and Social Services to be in touch with the deputy minister of Education, Culture and Employment to find out what, if anything, they do. Once we know, then we will be in a position to have some discussions with Education, Culture and Employment whether that is something that they might possibly be able to do for our students who are travelling south. As I get more information, I will absolutely share that with committee. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 679-17(5): Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Question 679-17(5): Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister’s initiative. Of course, students are on a budget, so a group plan might be something attractive.

I support the Minister’s review of the Medical Travel Policy including this apparent policy gap under the medical escort travel.

When will the Minister be seeking input on the draft results of the review from committee, and when can we expect it to be completed and implemented? Mahsi.

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

The initial work being done by the contractor is going to be done, I believe, at the end of March, at which point we will start putting together the results and how we’re going to move forward. Of course, this is a consensus system, so we will be sharing those results and having further discussion with the Members as the report comes in. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 679-17(5): Student Medical Escort Travel Policy

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 680-17(5): Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll follow up from my Member’s statement and I have questions for the Premier of the Northwest Territories about decentralization.

My first question would be: What is the general plan going forward with decentralization? I know we’ve done the first, second and third phase, what is the general plan going forward from… How do we decentralize these positions into the regions? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 680-17(5): Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Premier , Mr. McLeod.

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Question 680-17(5): Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Premier

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m very pleased to report to the Member that we have decentralized 150 positions from Yellowknife to the regions, and it has been spread out over a variety of positions.

We have a plan. We’re continuing to work towards fulfilling our plan. We’ve invested $21 million over three years to build 100 houses. We’re now entering our second year of building houses. We are spending $750,000 to have another 100 market houses built in the communities. We are investing $300,000 so that we can use that money for coming up with a plan to acquire office space so that we can no longer use the excuse of not having housing or office space to prevent against decentralization.

Of course, we have introduced a Regional Recruitment Strategy so that we can start filling these hard-to-staff positions and also fill those positions that are being decentralized to the regions and to the small communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

I understand a lot of the information that’s there that the Premier just provided me, but there is no plan out there. There’s no long-term plan that the Cabinet has been sharing. This is information that Cabinet has, Cabinet’s keeping close to their chest. We’re moving these positions, we’ll be moving these positions eventually here, but we don’t know all those plans. The public doesn’t know those plans.

Is there a plan that the government will be presenting to the public?

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Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Premier

We have a plan. We’ve been sharing it. We have a Refocusing Government Cabinet committee and one of its primary focuses is decentralization. The Minister of Finance is the lead Minister on decentralization, and I’m proud to say that Hay River has the second highest number of decentralized positions in this 17th Assembly. Thank

you, Mr. Speaker.

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

I didn’t look for the report and I already indicated in my statement that Hay River is appreciative of the positions we’ve had decentralized. We were looking for the plan, a public document to be presented to the public of the Northwest Territories. Is the government presenting that going forward? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 680-17(5): Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

We have laid out the three phases repeatedly. Also, as part of the 2015-16 business planning process, that’s part of phase three where all of the departments, with the exception of those new departments that came through devolution, those three departments will have to come up with their plans for decentralization. So we have a plan. We have been

filling and decentralizing positions in this 17th Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 680-17(5): Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bouchard .

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I understand the Premier is giving me all the history and all the information that’s there.

My question is: Is there a one-page document advertising that we can share with the general public that there will be jobs in Fort Res, Tsiigehtchic in the third, fourth year? Is there a document out there? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Fort Resolution has 53 jobs. Tsiigehtchic has 11 jobs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 680-17(5): Decentralization Of GNWT Positions

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I have questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . This week I believe the Minister and his department will be going out and doing some regional engagements throughout the Northwest Territories starting, I believe, today in Hay River, regarding a program called Skills for Success Initiative.

I want to ask the Minister in terms of this Skills for Success Initiative, what does he plan to get out of these regional engagements? I believe there’s a symposium that’s happening next month here in Yellowknife. What’s the Minister’s goal and objective of these regional engagements and the symposium he’s going to be hosting next month? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Part of the forum we are having in these communities, more specifically Hay River, Fort Smith, Fort Simpson, Inuvik, Norman Wells, Yellowknife and Behchoko in February and March, is to gather all the information, the data that we require that will lead to the development of a strategic framework that will set out a new direction for adults and post-secondary and skills training in the Northwest Territories. That will be followed by an action plan, monitoring and evaluation and also an accountability plan.

So there is a great deal of work ahead of us, but we want to compile the information to share the northern perspective, to hear their voices and plant a seed from there. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I know he’s going to all the regional centres. What is he doing for all the small

communities where you’ve heard, more and more in this House, that’s where we’re having the highest unemployment rates? They are in the small communities.

How is he getting input or engaging people in the small communities to get them on board for this program but also get them trained and educated so they can get the employment they need, support their families and also the economy? What is he doing to engage the small communities outside of these regional centres that he mentioned earlier? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I agree with the Member that we also need to focus on small communities. Small communities tend to feel left out and this is an area that will capture them as well. Even though we have regional representatives, that does consist of community members as well. That is educators, trainers, students, employers, industries, job seekers. All those will be captured. I assure you the small communities will be well represented.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

I appreciate the effort. The Minister is showing the need to engage the residents of the Northwest Territories. I went on the Department of Education, Culture and Employment website and I was looking at what we currently do for the labour market and got some information. What I did pull up was an NWT Labour Force Development Framework from 2009-2010 that is supposed to guide us until 2020 that has specific recommendations, statistics from all the communities and from the Bureau of Statistics Canada, some really good reports.

I didn’t get a chance to look at all the reports, but why is the Minister redeveloping a framework that he went out and engaged in in 2009-2010 and actually has reports right up to 2013, I believe. Why does he want to reinvent the wheel and spend more money, when this government has been telling us to be on a fiscal restraint policy, and start putting the words into action? We have something here. Let’s start putting into action instead of consulting about it and talking about it. Why is the Minister reinventing the wheel when we already have it here, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

I am fully aware of the framework that was initiated in 2009. It has been six years now. A lot of things have changed over that six-year period, such as employment and training stats. We’ve been told over and over, either by this Assembly or the general public, that we need to engage the public. We need to seek their input. We need to gather that data. That’s what we’re doing, Mr. Speaker. Over six years there’s been a lot of work put into play and now we want to build on that. That’s what we’re doing. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses .

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

We’ve got some really good strategies out there such as the Economic Opportunities Strategy, which was mentioned earlier, the Oil and Gas Strategy being developed, Mineral Strategy. We have strategies in place. These reports give us information on what has been happening. Now we have to put it into action.

All the recommendations are in there, I’ve read it. Why don’t we put those into action rather than continuing to talk about it? We know these statistics are low. We know the economy is slow.

Will the Minister take this report and give this Assembly and residents of the Northwest Territories an up-to-date report on the progress his department has made with regard to this framework? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

That’s exactly what is going to be happening. Today and tomorrow in Hay River there’s a visitation that’s happening, and in the following regions, as well, up to March 2nd .

Once there have been visitations and forums that have taken place, then there will be a follow-up with an action plan and also monitoring, evaluation and accountability. That needs to be established. Once the action plan has been developed in the business planning process, then we will be moving forward to implementation. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 681-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last week the Minister of Health and Social Services talked about the plans for palliative care beds in Deline. Is the planning study expected to be completed by the end of this Assembly? Thank you.

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister of Health , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

Mr. Speaker, we are planning to have individuals from the Department of Health and Social Services go into the community of Deline during the 2015-2016 fiscal year, which is the fiscal year coming up, to do the analysis and identify what kinds of needs exist in the community. We anticipate that information will be ready and available for discussion with committee during the ’15-16 fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Minister Abernethy . So, in 2015-16 the needs assessment and analysis will be done for Deline palliative care beds in that community and that discussion will come forward for discussion for the ’15-16 infrastructure. Is that correct, Mr. Speaker?

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

That will give us the ability to insert it into the capital planning process, which the Member does know takes a bit of time. I do hear the Member clearly around palliative care. We want to make sure, where possible, individuals can be supported for palliative care in the communities. While we’re doing the planning study and we’re getting the information which we can have further discussion on, we are making sure that our staff are trained so that the communities can support palliative care where medically possible in our communities in individual’s homes for short periods of time.

In Deline, by way of example, we do have equipment that can be shared on a temporary basis with residents who are providing palliative support.

Although the capital planning process is going to take a bit of time, this planning, this will help inform the capital process, and we are also doing things to make sure that we can provide palliative care in the community without beds until such time as we get through the capital process.

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

There are provisions, there are training resources in the community of Deline should an elder want to go back to the community for their final resting area. Are there provisions and resources in that community that people are trained to look after their loved ones?

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

At this time, depending on the medical condition of a person, whether they’re an elder or whether they’re a young person who wishes to return to their community and die in their community, we can provide palliative care for certain conditions. There are some conditions that we’ll probably never be able to provide palliative care for, for a person who wishes to die in their community, because of the extreme medical needs of some. But for certain medical conditions we can do it now. Yes.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Is there any funding in the provisions to train and assist local people in the community of Deline to look after their loved ones in times of need?

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Health and Social Services

There isn’t a specific fund for that but there are different types of training that are available to all residents of the Northwest Territories. Things like First Aid, Medical First Aid, and Mental Health First Aid. There are a number of programs that are available. But as far as specific palliative care training, no, there isn’t. But we do have some dollars in our budget that allow staff to put in some overtime to provide some one-on-one support to families and the patient if needed.

Just a reminder, this is palliative care for short periods for certain medical conditions. It certainly can’t cover all conditions.

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Question 682-17(5): Deline Palliative Care Study

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a few questions for the Minister of Human Resources . I’d like to ask the Minister, what is the most current vacancy rate for GNWT jobs in the Mackenzie Delta including education and health authorities?

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The Minister of Human Resources , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I can give the Member a snapshot of what we have on PeopleSoft October 31, 2014. There were 19 vacancies. Usually by September all of the positions in the schools are filled so that there will probably be no vacancies there, but with the rest of the GNWT there are 19 vacancies in the Mackenzie Delta at that time.

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

I’d like to ask the Minister, on average, how long have these jobs in the Delta gone unfilled and how does that compare to the NWT average?

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Right now there are nine of those 19 jobs. Well, as of October 31st , when

those vacancies were identified, we proceeded to try to fill nine of those jobs, so either those jobs have been filled or are in the process of being filled. Then there is also the possibility that there have been more vacancies created. On average, the jobs that we go to fill are being filled in the same time period as other jobs across the territory.

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Last year the Minister announced the Regional Recruitment Program which was supposed to link on-the-job training to a permanent job.

How often has this been done in the Mackenzie Delta and what are the results so far?

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

I don’t know if any of the regional recruitment positions are in the Mackenzie Delta riding. I can get that information. However, I do know that if there is a possibility that any of those positions would be eligible for the regional recruitment position, we would use that as a method to fill jobs. If a standard process was not working, then we would use a regional recruitment to fill those jobs.

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Blake .

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Within the last year the Gwich’in, the GNWT and Canada have all signed an agreement to build capacity within the communities. I’d like to ask the Minister for the status of that as of today and how many jobs are working towards being filled.

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

This is a committee between the Gwich’in and GNWT. The Premier and the president did sign this memorandum of intent on April 1, 2014. We set up a working group between the Gwich’in, GNWT and the federal government. The intention is to have three people starting at the Gwich’in, three people starting in the GNWT and three people starting with the federal government all at the same time and working in those positions for one year and then they would rotate. We would also make accommodations if any of the Gwich’in people wished to stay exactly where they were after year one. We’re expecting to make the first placements of those positions on September 1, 2015.

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Question 683-17(5): Mackenzie Delta Position Vacancies

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m going to ask questions to the Minister of Transportation . Just before I do that, of course, I’d like to send a little hello and a shout out to Patrick Joss who is watching our proceedings here all the way in Ulukhaktok. It’s really exciting that we have people watching.

Speaking of people watching, many of the people I had talked to in Gameti wanted to know when the Tulita winter road would be worked on as a capital project and when would money be put into the capital plan so they can eventually see the Tulita winter road connect from Highway No. 3 all the way to at least Whati.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The Minister of Transportation , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We’ve done a considerable amount of work in the plan to build an all-season road off of Highway No. 3 to Whati. It’s one of the roads where we have a group working on it, GNWT and the Tlicho government. This is something that we are looking at. I don’t have the exact status as of today, but there are some requirements that need to be filled prior to this going forward in the capital plan and we’re working on those requirements now.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I think I was reading in the Huffington Post a few weeks ago about how important connecting communities to road infrastructure is and how it changes the life when it comes to cost of living. It adds benefits such as regular fuel supply, regular grocery supply and certainly family connections. I could go on about the merits, but the question really is when can we expect to see it in the capital plan to help lower the costs of communities like that, that are so close to the highway? We could make a real difference and

a dent in the cost of living in their lives. We should be on this.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

We’ve certainly talked about the highway a lot. I can’t give a definite date on how close we are, but we consider that to be one of the roads. We have a few roads right now. We have a proposal into the federal government on the Mackenzie Valley Highway, so we’re looking at that as well as a couple of other all-season roads.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I want to assure my good friends from the Sahtu that I’m not wanting to take away from their road. I think the Mackenzie Valley Highway merits stand on their own. This road would provide close community access to major infrastructure and connect family, food, people, everything. You name it, it comes with all the fantastic benefits.

When will this government hear back from our proposal about connecting with this community? I think it’s time this government comes up with a policy to ensure that if we had a community within a certain amount of distance, we need to get together right away and start building these plans and building these highways that make all the world of difference to these folks when it comes to their cost of living. Thank you.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Certainly if we had the money to do all the roads we would be able to do it. The Whati all-season road has a price tag of about $150 million to go from Highway No. 3. It’s approximately 105 kilometres into Whati. There are certainly benefits to doing that. Again, it’s tied into our capital, our ability to borrow the money if need be. So, that affects the borrowing limit of the GNWT. We’d like to do all these roads, but we have to put them into some sort of priority as the borrowing limit makes the decision on whether or not we have the money to borrow to build these highways. Thank you.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is the GNWT willing to put, sort of, money where their mouth is and start to make a commitment to the engineering and the environmental assessment on this particular project so we are able to get this off the ground so when the federal government does get off and make a decision and finally agree that this is an important highway to connect people and families and certainly put industry together and create a window of opportunity for people to go to work?

Is the GNWT placed in order to be able to respond in a timely way to these important things? Thank you.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Like I indicated, we are doing a lot of the legwork, environmental assessment. We’ve looked at some of the roads,

some of the planning that’s needed to build the highway to Whati. However, it’s based on whether or not we have the ability to borrow money to build that road. Thank you.

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Question 684-17(5): Tlicho Region All-Season Highway

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 685-17(5): Deline Access Road

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Transportation . The Minister of Transportation and I had a visit in Deline last year and we talked about the safety of the lake and we did talk about the concept of the road going around a

section of the lake to hook up to the winter road on the other side of the Bear River.

Is that concept still alive within this department as to the wishes of the people of Deline?

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Question 685-17(5): Deline Access Road

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Minister of Transportation , Mr. Beaulieu .

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Question 685-17(5): Deline Access Road

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Tom Beaulieu

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member speaks about the road that would go around the arm that’s near Deline, as opposed to going straight across. For sure, if there was an all-season road across there, that would be something that would be good for even the speed with which we put the winter road in.

I guess the issue is there also has to be, in order to gain access to that side during the winter months, we’d have to cross the Bear River to get to that all-season road that they’re wishing to build. The community looked at that as one of the possibilities in case there was a viable way to put hydro on the Bear River and they felt that that was the ideal location. So they would build a road to it. It would take money, we recognize that. It’s about a $20 million project that the community is looking at. It would be looked at along with other major access road projects that the region is looking at. Thank you.

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Question 685-17(5): Deline Access Road

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu . The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 685-17(5): Deline Access Road

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to follow up with more questions to the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , but it seems like he’s stepped out for a second. So please put me back on the list, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The list is done. Mr. Moses .

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Question 686-17(5): Skills For Success Initiative

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

My apologies, Mr. Speaker, and my apologies to the Minister there. Like I said, I just want to follow up to questions about these reports

that I’ve been trying to catch up on and getting reports on.

Under these last stakeholder meetings, there were nine sessions held throughout the Northwest Territories between 2