Debates of Feb. 19th, 2013

This is page numbers 1937 – 1976 of the Hansard for the 17th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

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Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Canada’s Best Diversity Employers

Education Week, Heritage Week And French Weeks

Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

Avalon Rare Minerals Thor Lake Project

Deline Traditional Hand Games Tournament

Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

Federal Funding For Inuvik Children’s First Centre

Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

Consumer Protection Legislation For Cell Phone Contracts

Deh Cho Queen’s Diamond Jubilee Medal Recipients

Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

Federal Funding For Behchoko Community Sportsplex

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik

Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

Avalon Rare Minerals Thor Lake Project

Consumer Protection Legislation For Cell Phone Contracts

Addressing The High Cost Of Living In Small Communities

Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

Written Question 11-17(4): Flaring At Petroleum Exploration And Production Sites

Written Question 12-17(4): Community Fuel Prices

Tabled Document 24-17(4): Information And Privacy Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories Annual Report, 2011-2012

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:31 p.m.

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Prayer

Prayer

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Good afternoon, colleagues. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Justice , Mr. Abernethy .

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Minister's Statement 14-17(4): Canada’s Best Diversity Employers

Ministers’ Statements

Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Justice

Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to announce that the Government of the Northwest Territories has been chosen as one of Canada’s Best Diversity Employers for 2013. This recognition, by the Globe and Mail and Mediacorp Canada Incorporated, follows our recent recognition as one of Canada’s Top 100 Employers for 2013.

Each year the editorial team at Canada's Top 100 Employers identifies organizations that exemplify exceptional inclusiveness and diversity practices. The editors highlighted a number of features of our working environment. We have a wide variety of inclusiveness training on topics like Aboriginal cultural awareness, disability awareness and gender-based analysis. We use a consultative approach for recruitment and staffing initiatives, working with the Government Advisory Group on Employability and the Aboriginal Employees Advisory Committee.

We have also committed resources to assist with inclusion and workplace accommodation, such as the diversity officer and duty to accommodate advisor positions.

The Government of the Northwest Territories has long been committed to building a representative public service. During the development of 20/20, the NWT Public Service Strategic Plan, we recognized that diversity and inclusion are crucial aspects of a strong and stable public service, one staffed by innovative and engaged employees delivering relevant programs and services to the people of the North. In addition to traditional staffing measures such as the Affirmative Action Policy, over the past several years we have undertaken

many new initiatives to develop a diverse workforce. Some of these initiatives include:

a soon-to-be launched Aboriginal cultural

awareness training program aimed at enhancing and promoting Aboriginal cultural understanding;

the

Associate

Director/Superintendent Program,

which provides senior developmental positions to increase the number of Aboriginal employees in senior management;

the Aboriginal Employee Advisory Committee,

which recommends strategies and tools to enhance recruitment, retention and advancement of Aboriginal employees;

the GNWT Advisory Committee on Employability, consisting of government, non-government and union representatives, which examines ways to increase the representation of persons with disabilities in the GNWT workforce;

the creation of a diversity officer position

responsible for developing a diversity and inclusion framework;

the establishment of a Duty to Accommodate

Injury and Disability Policy and the hiring of a duty to accommodate advisor to assist in workplace accommodation;

a very successful disability awareness

campaign that highlighted physical, social and invisible disabilities; and

opportunities for employee feedback through

the Inclusive Public Service Survey.

These initiatives are resulting in real progress. For example, during the lifetime of the 17

th Legislative

Assembly up to December 31, 2012, 10 new managers joined the ranks of GNWT senior management. Of these 10, five are indigenous Aboriginal persons. This is an indication of the significant progress that is being made in expanding the representation of Aboriginal persons in the public sector and, specifically, within senior management.

Being chosen as one of Canada’s Best Diversity Employers is a testament to the importance the GNWT places on a public service that reflects the diverse makeup of the North. I recognize that there

is still more work to do and we must remain committed to a diverse and representative workforce, but this award is a wonderful confirmation that our steps so far have been in the right direction and that we are a national leader and role model in advancing diversity in our workplace. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Minister's Statement 15-17(4): Education Week, Heritage Week And French Weeks

Ministers’ Statements

Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, February 18

th to 22

nd is Education Week and is also

Heritage Week.

To celebrate Heritage Week, the Prince of Wales Northern Heritage Centre is hosting a number of heritage-themed free events in partnership with the City of Yellowknife, including Amazing Family Sundays, an art show and guided tours of the Back Bay Cemetery. Association Franco-Culturelle de Yellowknife is hosting a youth film night and school programs. The Norman Wells Historical Society is offering snowshoe-making workshops and Fort Smith’s Northern Life Museum is holding behind-the-scenes tours of its facility and collections. These activities highlight our collective heritage and culture, and provide unique learning opportunities.

Mr. Speaker, technology is a powerful force in the lives of youth. Young people are immersed in this, moving beyond traditional boundaries as they access, absorb, communicate, create and repurpose media content. Youth need to develop critical thinking skills and awareness of how powerful the Internet can be and how it can impact their lives. They must be comfortable walking in two worlds, where they are proud ambassadors for their culture but also well versed in modern technology.

The theme for Education Week is Innovative Learning, which shines a light on the opportunities to use technology and culture inside the classroom. Our new video contest encourages second language learning. To enter, youth can submit a video clip of themselves learning to speak any of our territory’s 11 official languages. As we move into Aboriginal Languages Month and French Week, we will use the video clips received from this contest to promote language speaking across the North. In our approach to northern education, it is essential that we integrate our culture and language into our learning environments.

Our French Weeks, or Les Rendez-vous de la Francophonie, will take place March 8

th to 24

th . It is

an annual national initiative to promote and celebrate French language and culture. The theme for 2013 is Joie de vivre. This year, French

translators from the francophone affairs secretariat will facilitate hands-on workshops with students at both Ecole Allain St-Cyr in Yellowknife and Ecole Boreale in Hay River.

As the world continues to look north with increasing curiosity, these kinds of activities contribute to our larger body of work in language preservation, culture and education, helping our cultural communities create interesting perspectives on where and how we live. We have a tremendous opportunity to showcase this work for the upcoming Northern Scene Festival from April 25

th to May 4

th ,

2013, in Ottawa. Northern Scene is part of a series of nationwide arts presentations providing opportunities for exposure, as well as marketing and economic opportunities. The department, along with the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, has committed $200,000 to Northern Scene from existing resources.

Mr. Speaker, education, cultural preservation and language revitalization in the Northwest Territories are priorities and opportunities for the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, and we employ many approaches to share these messages. With strategic and measured steps in all of our programming and initiatives, we are on a new path of discovery and economic opportunity, which will help us achieve our goals as an Assembly, with healthy, educated Northerners and proud cultural ambassadors. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Education Minister has been talking about reforming our school system and we are sure it can be improved. We also need to fully support education councils that are making positive changes to help their students.

They have a very good example of this in the Beaufort-Delta. The education council has successfully grown and improved its e-learning program. The schools are using the…(inaudible)…on-line platform and the telehealth system to broadcast courses from Inuvik to three smaller schools. After sorting out the best systems, video and audio quality is now very clear. This should bring better and more varied courses to students in small communities.

Fifteen academic courses have been developed. This also makes very efficient use of our teachers. Even so, students in the smaller schools still need support to succeed.

We have a great opportunity to inspire students through new technology. We are showing our young people that their home community, no matter how small, is not isolated from the rest of the world.

I am told that 15 students in Fort McPherson and Tuktoyaktuk are now taking e-learning academic courses at their local schools. It should be available to the rest of the schools in the Northwest Territories also.

E-learning is efficient, but there are still costs such as course development, teacher training, additional training classroom assistance, dedicated Internet connections, computer software and hardware. There are probably a couple of things that I’ve overlooked.

In the long run, e-learning is likely to save money. For example, high school students will be able to stay in their home communities longer instead of going to Inuvik. The Beaufort-Delta has four year-round fly-in communities with very high costs of living, and two more fly-in about half the time, but the Beaufort-Delta Education Council is actually cheaper to run than some other agencies.

On a per student basis, it costs about the same as it does in the French schools in Yellowknife and Hay River. In the Sahtu region, it costs about $4,000 or more per student –

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Mr. Blake , your time for Member’s statement has expired.

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Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Members’ Statements

Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

The point is that Beaufort-Delta schools need better funding. We need to make sure they can expand and improve the courses available through e-learning.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Avalon Rare Minerals Thor Lake Project

Members’ Statements

Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This week Avalon Rare Minerals is having hearings on their project, both in Yellowknife and in Fort Resolution, and I have an opportunity this evening to make a presentation at the hearing in support of the project at Thor Lake.

Hay River is looking forward to the opportunity that this project represents. There’s a great deal of optimism for employment as well as the small business opportunities in Hay River, and all the Hay River entrepreneurs are looking forward to this project and the opportunities it brings.

The Avalon project will create a hydromat facility in the old Pine Point site area where there hasn’t been any activity since the 1980s. This project will also bring jobs not only to the north side where the mine project is, but the hydromat. It not only brings job opportunities but it also brings training; training that some of our youth need for the future in the mining industry, they can bring forward to not only this project but other projects to come forward.

This project also brings opportunities in the Hay River area for pre-staging where we can actually build some of the infrastructure that’s supposed to go into the mine site. The usage of our rail spurs in Hay River, the barging system, the marine system that’s set up in Hay River. NTCL has been named one of the contractors to do the barging into the hydromat facility.

They will be establishing an office in Yellowknife and Hay River, so there is a great deal of opportunity for employment. There are projections of 80 personnel at the mine site and 87 personnel at the hydromat facility in the construction phase.

I will be speaking tonight at the hearing in support of this project and we’re looking forward to that opportunity.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Deline Traditional Hand Games Tournament

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This coming weekend the Sahtu will be rocking and rolling, shaking and baking. This weekend the Sahtu, along with other regions such as the Tlicho, South Slave, Deh Cho, Akaitcho, even as far as Sachs Harbour are starting to learn and participate in traditional hand games. The Sahtu is holding a $60,000 men’s hand games tournament. There are people from Alberta, Yukon and the Northwest Territories making their way through the Mackenzie Valley winter road to go to Deline.

Last year in the Sahtu, Deline held this event and it was a success. There were many people who came to the hand games. We see this opportunity as our Mardi Gras of the North. This is where people celebrate, they cook, they put people up for bedding, and they play, and the drums go on. There’s excitement, excitement in the people for their culture and they’re at their best when they’re playing the hand games. People from all over come to these hand games to see the true spirit of the Dene and the northern people.

I want to say thank you very much to the people in Deline for the volunteers, the sponsors that make this possible. As I said, this event hosts the world’s greatest and best hand games players. I am sad to say that the Government of the Northwest

Territories does not have a team yet to represent ourselves at the hand games. We have Premier McLeod, who I think is a good shooter. He could win lots of prizes for us at these hand games, and have fun, and enjoy, and eat with the people and dance with them. This is a good time to celebrate. Yes, we work hard, but we should be playing hard, too, and we should have a team one day representing the government at these hand games. It would truly be a northern experience, one we can take to the books and say yes, we’re all in this together in the Northwest Territories.

Good luck to all the hand game players and good luck to everyone who’s coming in. I also want to congratulate Tsiigehtchic who won the little league hand game tournament in Tulita. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our EDI report on fracking provided a start to learn about fracking, but as we learn more, the management challenge grows. In fact, urgent action is needed to make good decisions. We need to adopt best practices, yes, but what are these, will we actually adopt them, and how will we do so and ensure that they are followed? Many jurisdictions profess a similar commitment but have failed miserably to protect their citizens, despite good intentions.

The need for environmental and geological baseline data essential for good management is clear, but are we committed to achieving this information before allowing full-scale development should reserves prove up? This data collection typically requires a full field program, partnered with local knowledge. It’s expensive, takes time, and requires analysis and synthesis with existing information to be applied. Some of it requires a baseline before development is no longer possible.

The list of policy needs is long. Strong standards are required for all phases of the drilling process, including the placement and integrity of casings. Horizontal tracking and hydrocarbon production results in harmful emissions of toxic and carcinogenic compounds elsewhere and will here unless strictly regulated.

Given accelerating effects of climate change, greenhouse gas monitoring and mitigation measures aimed at ensuring no net increases are required. The impacts of contaminating billions of litres, perhaps trillions of surface water, removing them from the water cycle and storing them forever in the bowels of the earth, particularly given our low

precip and changing climate, must be clearly understood before we permit such activities.

The paramount importance of full and transparent communication and public engagement through all phases of the development has been demonstrated. Let’s educate our public, support their fact-finding trips to actual fracking sites, and fully respond to their concerns with actions to address and resolve them.

Every one of these are a tough challenge. Many jurisdictions have concluded they are too tough. For example, Quebec suspended fracking pending review. Vermont, Ireland and France have banned it. New South Wales in Australia bans the use of some chemical additives. Some who haven’t affected bans are now realizing steep costs.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Mahsi.

---Unanimous consent granted.

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Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Some who haven’t affected bans are now realizing steep costs to people’s health, drinking water, climate, livestock, wildlife, municipal systems and so on. All this to mine an energy source that is destroying our global climate and the ability of our natural system to support life and cultures as we know them.

Healthy and beneficial energy alternatives abound. I will have questions for the Minister. Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Federal Funding For Inuvik Children’s First Centre

Members’ Statements

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This morning I had the opportunity to attend an announcement made by the Honourable Leona Aglukkaq, Minister of the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency. What she announced this morning is very joyous for the community of Inuvik in terms of community infrastructure, federal funding for the Children’s First Centre that we’ve had a strong group working for over the years.

That was great news in terms of making this project become a reality. The community of Inuvik and the staff at the Children’s First Society have been working very hard and have been very dedicated to get this off the ground, and I believe, this summer it should become a reality and be opening its doors. It will have about 120 spots available for the growing need of child care spaces. Not only that, it is going to create jobs in the construction of the building and ongoing jobs for running the centre itself.

At this time, with the great news that came out this morning, I’d just like to offer my congratulations and a heartfelt thank you to the people of Inuvik for their

ongoing support for the children’s centre, for all the hard work that they do, the tireless efforts, the long hours, the volunteering hours that they put in day in and day out to get the funding to make this centre a reality.

Like I said again, I just want to congratulate all the hardworking people with the Children’s First Society on the record, and all the leaders and lobbyists for getting this funding and ongoing funding that’s going to make our children healthier, and our community healthier, and bring economic prosperity. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My constituents tell me that they love the small town life. The petroleum products division provides fuel to a number of these small towns in my riding. Fuel is delivered in the winter; however, the fuel rates are set in July and sold at a fixed rate throughout the year. Rates can be very high and put a lot of pressure on people who rely on the traditional economy. Many people in small communities choose to live there because they can pursue traditional lifestyles. They choose to live this way and they have a right to do so.

Aboriginal governments and organizations, and even the Government of the Northwest Territories, have made a lot of effort to help people uphold traditional lifestyles and make it possible for people to live as they have for generations hunting, fishing and trapping. Some of the finest furs come from the Deh Cho region. But just because these people participate in traditional activities does not mean that they live like their ancestors. They rely on fuel to reach their traplines and to run outboard motors. They drive quads and other vehicles and use fuel in their homes just like other places.

The high cost of fuel is hard to manage, especially for an elder or someone who has seasonal employment, and unfair, especially when fuel prices

can go down in the regional centres but stay fixed in the remote communities. Yellowknife really collects the benefits when prices go down on fuel.

I urge this government to look at ways to make fuel prices fairer and more reasonable. One of the ways we could do that is through a freight subsidy that would help make up for the fixed costs. I urge our government to commit to a supplementary expenditure, like the Minister did yesterday. Assisting the cost of fuel through this kind of subsidy recognizes the difference in the economy between remote communities that are not on the road system and regional centres that are much more accessible, populated, and where people make a lot of money in the wage economy.

If we want to reduce the disparities between our communities, forcing everyone to work in a mine or in an office tower is not going to do it. We need to recognize the value of traditional lifestyle and community life. We need to make this lifestyle possible for people who choose to live that way. Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Consumer Protection Legislation For Cell Phone Contracts

Members’ Statements

Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Many Northerners and Canadians generally have been raising concerns for years about the restrictive and confusing terms of their cell phone contracts. They complain about being locked into three-year contracts with unreasonably high penalties to get out of them, changes to fees and services without their consent, automatic renewals and the lack of clear information about their contracts.

In response to these complaints, the province of Manitoba has stepped in with legislation to protect consumers to ensure a degree of fairness. On May 1

st , Nova Scotia will follow Manitoba’s lead with new

rules that cap cancellation fees at $50 or 10 percent of the amount remaining on the contract, whichever is lower. Further, any cell service providers will not be able to make unilateral changes to important contract terms such as services, fees and locations where phones can be used unless those changes benefit the consumer. Automatic renewals will no longer be permitted. Cell phone companies will have to contact their customers to confirm whether they want to continue their service. The legislation also includes rules around advertising and information provided to customers before they sign on.

This is more than a boondoggle opportunity to create changes, this is a real opportunity for real protection. As we see the cell phone services are

finally rolling out and expanding across our northern regions, the time to act is now. There are some simple and fair changes that protect consumers and we can see them easily adopted here in the Northwest Territories.

Later today I will be asking the Minister as to what he will be doing about these changes to finally put real protection for Northerners, and show them our government stands with them and not against them. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Nadli .

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Deh Cho Queen’s Diamond Jubilee Medal Recipients

Members’ Statements

Michael Nadli

Deh Cho

th .

A former colleague, Mr. Sam Gargan, was among those who received this honour yesterday. For 16 years Mr. Gargan was a Member of the Legislative Assembly for the Deh Cho and also Speaker of this House. He also served his people as chief of the Deh Ga Got’ie First Nation, grand chief of the Dehcho First Nations and mayor of Fort Providence. As founder and guiding member of Keepers of the Water, Mr. Gargan continues to raise the profile of northern water quality and environmental issues, and upholds traditional Dene values, culture and ways of life.

Johnny Landry was born and raised in Fort Providence. He started singing in South Slavey in the early 1980s, writing songs inspired by stories the elders told. He recorded his first album “We Are Standing” in 1986 and toured extensively throughout Denendeh, helping people heal and revitalize their Dene culture, heritage and language through music.

Mrs. Margaret Thom is a well-respected Fort Providence elder and role model. She has dedicated herself to counselling and education, facilitating, and volunteer work to benefit people of all ages, lending her skills to healing circles, parenting workshops and cultural camps, among many other endeavours. Mrs. Thom is the former Deputy Commissioner, as well, a title she held for six years.

The medal presentation ceremony was a wonderful celebration of the people of the Deh Cho and their great impact Mr. Gargan, Mr. Landry and Mrs. Thom have made on our future. Once again, it was my honour to participate in recognizing the outstanding accomplishments of these individuals and how they continue to influence and inspire the people of the Northwest Territories. Mahsi.

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Deh Cho Queen’s Diamond Jubilee Medal Recipients

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Nadli . The Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Let me give you an example. Recently I discovered a GNWT sponsored and developed Facebook page with a number of likes on the page. For those of you Facebook luddites, a like indicates support for the person, business or organization. A like on a Facebook page is prominently displayed and can influence readers to support the person or the organization or to use the business. It can also be a selling tool. I’ve found private businesses liked on more than one GNWT-sponsored Facebook page. This is inappropriate, Mr. Speaker.

There seems to be a gap in policy development here. Facebook pages are initiated throughout the government and by many different departments, but do we as a government have any policies or guidelines to assist those people in their development of webpages and Facebook pages? It

appears not. We often use contractors to do things like develop Facebook pages and websites. Do they have any policies or guidelines to follow? It appears not.

We have a chief information officer and we have an information policy gap needing to be fixed. This is a job for his office. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Colleagues, before we go on, I’d like to welcome former Premier Floyd Roland back to the House today. Welcome back, Floyd.

---Applause

The honourable Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When a life is lost and a community must grieve, it begs the question of why does this have to happen.

The community of Yellowknife last summer lost a vibrant young man to a head injury while he was longboarding. Consequently, this tragedy has spurred a great debate on the personal responsibility of helmet use in road sports, the need for further education but, more importantly, the urging for legislative intervention.

Not that many years ago, our former Premier Stephen Kakfwi was quoted as saying, “We have to step up to the line and account for our inaction.” He was referencing dealing with the owners of snowmobile legislation. As a result, territorial-wide measures were implemented.

There was a time in our generation that even hockey players didn’t wear helmets, yet society today would not even fathom playing the sport without such protection. So why, Mr. Speaker, is society pitted against what would seem a logical move?

I believe the key to answer this question is always linked to enforcement. The debate about where such legislation should be implemented, as for in-house business, may be a bit premature for us now, but what we should be supporting is the ongoing involvement in the proper education programs that offer head and brain injury protection.

I must take a quick moment to thank the years of support by BHP Canada Limited, with Think First Canada and with our own in-house use of Use Your Head Program, which has provided children, youth, parents, schools, recreation providers, health care authorities and communities with information and resources such as helmets. Without such contributions, people impacted the most, due to cost, would have been affected.

I will be asking the Minister of Transportation today about our ongoing education and support on our future initiatives, and the protection and safety of head and brain injury prevention on our roadways. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Recently in the media we’ve heard of an inquest that’s taking place in the Yukon with respect to the loss of five of their residents’ lives due to carbon monoxide poisoning.

This is a very real threat and it’s something that I think the Yukon government is going to respond to. I’d like to, later today, ask questions on how our government is going to respond to this threat.

Most of us know our homes to have either hardwired or have plugged-in smoke detectors, and this has become a very, very common practice, but less thought is given to the possibility of carbon monoxide poisoning.

When I was a child, I remember my parents had very close friends who both died in their home as a result of, I believe, squirrels had built a nest in their chimney over the summer months and when their furnace came back into operation in the fall, they were both found dead in the home. I remember that very vividly as a child.

About 20 years ago in Hay River, a very well-known couple in our community decided to put a mobile home on the outskirts of town and they were off the power grid. So they put a diesel generator under the mobile home to provide power to that unit. Many trips to the medical clinic with headaches and feeling of nausea did not help anybody find out what it was that was causing them to feel unwell until, unfortunately, the man succumbed to the carbon monoxide poisoning. His partner, who still lives in Hay River today, was able to be medevaced and survived this poisoning.

We as a government have put many measurements in place to support public safety, and I think that this is an area where we as a government also need to develop a policy. Perhaps all new construction of new homes require a carbon monoxide detector to be installed as part of the construction. Perhaps also a policy that would see the availability of carbon monoxide detectors for residential and commercial applications.

Later today I will have questions for the Minister responsible, and I’m not sure which one it will be, as to what our government’s action is going to be to

curb this threat and any future loss of life for something that is so preventable. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Member for Monfwi , Mr. Lafferty .

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Federal Funding For Behchoko Community Sportsplex

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I just want to say a big thank you, similar to Mr. Alfred Moses , on this CanNor announcement from this morning. Minister Aglukkaq announced new funding for our sportsplex, a sportsplex that’s badly needed in the community of Behchoko.

I would just like to thank her for her contribution, ongoing contribution. Thanks to the chiefs and the grand chief in the region and the GNWT for all the support over the years. We are doing this for the youth, and I just want to highlight the generosity and ongoing commitment from the federal government, territorial government and Tlicho Government for making this a reality. I would just like to say mahsi cho.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. McLeod.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to take this opportunity to recognize former Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Floyd Roland. With him is Mr. Grant Hood, SAO, Town of Inuvik and a constituent of Inuvik Twin Lakes. Welcome, gentlemen.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Mr. Moses .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d also like to welcome Mr. Grant Hood, the SAO for the Town of Inuvik; and the current mayor of Inuvik, Floyd Roland, also former Premier . Welcome to the House and enjoy the proceedings.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s my great pleasure to recognize the president of the NWT Teachers’ Association, Ms. Gayla Meredith, and thank Gayla for the reception meet and greet that was held this morning. It was very enjoyable. Thank you

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Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d also like to take the opportunity to recognize a

former colleague in the House today, as he mentioned last night at a gathering, he and I and Minister Miltenberger were all from the class of 1995 and there were four of us elected in 1995. So many memories of his presence and presentations in this House. Thank you.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker, I, too, would like to recognize Gayla Meredith, president of the NWTTA for her ongoing support and partnership. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . I’d like to welcome all our visitors here in the public gallery. Thank you for taking an interest in our proceedings today.

Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I listened with interest to the Minister of Human Resources , Glen Abernethy , when he talked about the soon-to-be launched Aboriginal Cultural Awareness Training Program aimed at enhancing and promoting the Aboriginal culture of understanding. I want to ask the Minister, in light of what I said in my Member’s statement about Deline hosting a huge hand games tournament, with something like that, is the Minister looking at some type of cultural training program where we can fully immerse in the training and culture and understanding of Aboriginal people at their best. Is the Minister looking at something like that in terms of a training program for our employees?

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister of Human Resources , Mr. Glen Abernethy .

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Human Resources

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The program that we’re designing is actually designed with the intent of helping new employees, as well as some existing employees, understand the cultures and reality of working in the Northwest Territories. It was designed in participation with a number of different Aboriginal groups in the Northwest Territories. As far as having it presented at something like the hand games, it’s not really designed for that. It’s designed for employees to help them understand the different cultures and the realities in the Northwest Territories.

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

I wanted to ask the Minister to be open and flexible, because what better way to

learn about the Aboriginal people than to get into them, play the hand games with them, understand the culture. Even learn a few hand signals, which I really can’t say in the House here. I think that’s the most opportune time to have employees come and sit and eat, and dance and learn the hand games of the Aboriginal people. Would the Minister look at something like that to fully understand the Aboriginal people at their best?

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Human Resources

I’ve had an opportunity to travel to a lot of the communities in the Northwest Territories with the Member, as well, and had an opportunity to participate in the hand games, which I thoroughly lost. I do understand the value of these types of activities and initiatives but, once again, this program is really designed to help the individual employees who happen to be in Yellowknife or other communities where maybe the hand games aren’t taking place.

As a government, we do encourage our employees who live in smaller communities to engage and become part of the communities and I would hope to see members of the GNWT public service participating in the activities in Deline. The program is more designed for all communities, not one particular location.

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

If young kids in Sachs Harbour can learn the Dene hand games, certainly we can look at some of our regions and the departments that we’re responsible for in the Tlicho, the Deh Cho, the Sahtu, even the Gwich’in coming to Tulita and taking that prize. I want to ask again the Minister, it would be good if we had a GNWT representative look at and understand the Dene culture, and one aspect is to see these magnificent hand games and really understand, okay, this is how the people celebrate life. I know it’s designed for some things, but I’m asking to leave some room for flexibility in the training program.

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Human Resources

I’d say that we’re absolutely going to be flexible and open. We have some of the most generous leave policies here in the Government of the Northwest Territories and we encourage our employees to maybe take some time to go participate in these types of events.

As Cabinet members, I know we’ve all had an opportunity to travel to the Sahtu and many of us did participate in the hand games when we were there previously. We do see the value of these types of activities and we encourage involvement. We will continue to encourage our employees to take advantage of these opportunities as they present themselves.

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

Oral Questions

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On page 3 of 3 of the Minister’s statement he said, “so far have been in the right direction and that we are

a national leader and role model in advancing diversity in our workplace.” I’m with the Minister on that. I want to ask the Minister how I can support him. Can he write some kind of directive or initiative that would support cultural awareness, such as participating in regional hand games, when the opportunity is available to our workers.

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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Great Slave

Glen Abernethy

Minister of Human Resources

We, obviously, want a public service that represents the population that we serve, and as such, we have put in a number of these programs to help us attain that. I’m interested in what the Member has to say and I’d be happy to sit down and have a conversation with the Member to see what we can do, and discuss it further with committee as well.

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Question 89-17(4): Fostering Cultural Awareness Through Hand Games Competitions

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Hay River South , Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

Oral Questions

Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In follow-up to my Member’s statement today, I have questions for the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs . Back in November my colleague Mr. Dolynny made a very good statement on this very same topic. I believe that since then, the report of the unfortunate and tragic incident that took place in the Yukon has progressed further, and their government, the Yukon Government, is looking at putting in place measures to avoid this very preventable loss in the future.

I’d like to ask the Minister what our government has done to date to address the issue of carbon monoxide detectors in buildings in the Northwest Territories.

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen . The honourable Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The National Building Code requires that all structures built from 2008 now have to have CO

2 detectors. Any structures built prior to then, it wasn’t a requirement at the time. However, with the incidents that took place in the Yukon I think there are a lot of people who are starting to install CO

2 detectors.

The department, working with the NWT Fire Chiefs Association, had a very good awareness campaign and I believe they were even handing out free detectors to those who wanted them. We are trying to raise public awareness. There are some requirements for it in the National Building Code to have these installed after 2008.

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

That is very good news, both the mandatory installation in public buildings, the public awareness campaign, and the handing

out of carbon monoxide detectors. The potential problem is all too prevalent in our residences.

I’d like to ask the Minister if there’s anything that our government could do further to step up the efforts to ensure that people have access to these detectors in their homes. I understand that they are not that expensive, and in our communities they are probably not readily available in some of the small communities in stores. Is this government prepared to go further with this?

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I can assure the Member, and all Members of the House, that we will do whatever it takes to try and ensure that all our residents across the Northwest Territories are covered. The National Building Code that I pointed out before does apply to residents also. That protection is there. We are monitoring the legislation that the Yukon is planning to enact and see if there’s opportunity for us to enact the same type of legislation. We’re monitoring that quite closely. Once that’s all done, we will have discussions with committee and Members of the Assembly.

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

That is very good to know. Is there anything that we as a government could do legislation-wise? New construction I understand. What about existing homes? Is there anything we can do, from a regulation and monitoring perspective, to ensure that people have carbon monoxide detectors in their homes?

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Other than trying to wear public awareness and that, I suppose we would have to look at trying to work out some regulations. I do note that if they are renovating a home that was built prior to 2008, then the new requirements would take place where they need to install a CO

2 detector. If renovations are being

done, then it would be mandatory to install CO

2 detectors.

Again, I can assure all Members that we will do whatever we can to ensure all members of the public are aware of the dangers of carbon monoxide and work with the public in any way that we can. If it means handing out CO

2 detectors, then

we would have to explore that also.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mrs. Groenewegen .

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Jane Groenewegen

Hay River South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I for one would strongly support handing out these. We take a lot of measures, as a government, to address public safety, everything from making sure we wear our seatbelts and our kids wear seatbelts. We do a lot of things by regulation and by law to ensure public safety. I would like to see us address this and would certainly support an allocation of funding to purchase carbon monoxide detectors and give them out to anybody who would be interested.

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

We appreciate the Member’s support and look forward to working with all Members to try and raise awareness out there. I think the event that took place in Whitehorse, unfortunately, was a sad way to make the public aware of the danger to carbon monoxide detectors. I do know our NWT Fire Chiefs Association is working very hard on this issue because they recognize the importance of it too. I think, in partnership with all the stakeholders, we’re doing all we can to make sure our public is well protected.

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Question 90-17(4): Installation Of Carbon Monoxide Detectors

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Frame Lake , Ms. Bisaro .

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . The honourable Minister of Finance , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Apparently none that I’m aware of.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I didn’t hear the answer. Thank you very much, colleagues. To the Minister, I would like to know whether or not this is something that, as a government, I feel that we need to remain impartial and I would like to know from the Minister whether or not he thinks there’s a policy gap here and, if so, is he willing to do something about developing some guidelines and some policies to handle Facebook sites and websites.

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Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

I’ll commit to review the matter with the appropriate officials in the departments and if there is deemed to be a policy gap, then we’ll, of course, take the steps to close that gap.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

Thanks to the Minister for that commitment. I appreciate that. In the absence of anything right now, if we have Facebook sites which have likes on them, a particular business that has been liked which indicates that the GNWT likes this business and not another one, for instance, what is the Minister going to do to try and monitor Facebook sites and website that we have that may

have particular preferences for a business or organization?

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Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

I’ll commit to put this matter on the table for Cabinet strategy tomorrow, and where all the senior officials are, as well, and we’ll discuss the best way to make sure that we are impartial in all the appropriate areas as it pertains to government policy.

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Wendy Bisaro

Frame Lake

I appreciate the commitment from the Minister. I guess I would just like to say I appreciate this is coming before senior management and Cabinet. I’d like to suggest to the Minister that we don’t have to reinvent the wheel. There are lots of governments out there that, no doubt, have policies and guidelines, so I would suggest to the Minister that we copy them more than develop our own.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro . No question there. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Michael Miltenberger

Minister of Finance

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the Member’s sage advice and I will keep that in mind as we move forward.

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Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake , Mr. Moses .

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Question 92-17(4): Delivery Of Income Assistance Program In Inuvik

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . I guess basically it’s in terms of planning and getting ready for a region when we go through an economic downturn. I just want to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment if he has seen an increased cost in our Income Assistance Program and, if so, does he know the figure of how many dollars we’re putting in to the income assistance in the community of Inuvik. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Moses . Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. With the Income Assistance Program, we made some changes in 2007 to reflect the cost of living in the North and also the remoteness of the communities and, of course, the high costs. So we made those changes in 2007 and we have continued to monitor that since then until today. I have instructed my department to re-evaluate the program itself and continue monitoring it. If there are changes in the cost factor in, let’s say, the Beaufort-Delta, we need to take those into consideration. If we’re going to make changes, we have to come back to this House to make those changes. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Just along those lines, I’d like to ask the Minister if there has been an increase in the amount of applications and an increase in the amount of residents that are now collecting income assistance in the community of Inuvik, has there been an increase in the amount of dollars that are allocated to this particular program. I’m trying to get to a point here, because with the lack of jobs and the downturn in Inuvik right now, we’re going to see more families, we’re going to see more people, more residents who are becoming dependent on government and income assistance. I’ve seen it through my office.

I’d like to ask the Minister if he has seen an increase in the applications and the number of people who are on income assistance and an increase in dollars. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, by all means I would like to see more people and a population increase in the Northwest Territories. Based on that, it does fluctuate. People leave, people come, depending on the opportunities. When there’s an increase in the caseloads for, let’s say, the Beaufort-Delta, then have a monetary mechanism. If it’s higher than what is expected or budgeted, then we have to come back to this House. We’ve done that in the past, so we’ll continue to work in that regard. We do have a budget for the Income Security Framework overall. Again in 2007 there was an increase. If there needs to be another increase, that’s an area that we need to look at.

I have instructed my department to look seriously where we’re at with income security overall. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Mr. Speaker, through my office I’ve had a lot of constituents come and express their concern about not being able to work or find contracts, and have to refer to looking at other social programs that can help them assist. I’m asking the Minister if he’s seen an increase in the amount for my community. If he has seen an increase, he kind of alluded to it in his last statement, but is there an action plan to address the higher costs of income dollars going into Inuvik specifically, so that more residents are actually having to, not by choice but having to, because of the economic downturn. Is there an action plan to address the high rates of applications? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, there is additional or higher caseloads, then those areas are continually monitored through my department. It’s not only Inuvik or the Beaufort-Delta, it’s all 33 communities that we service.

As I stated, there is a fluctuation in the population in the communities and the caseload does go down as well. Of course, we’d like to see the caseload go down. There are opportunities and activities happening in other regions, whether it be the Sahtu

region, and in the Beaufort-Delta there’s the road that’s been discussed. So there are going to be opportunities there.

At the same time, we are working closely with the regional representatives. The number has increased a bit in the various areas, but I can share that information with the Members for their information. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Mahsi, Mr. Lafferty . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses .

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Alfred Moses

Inuvik Boot Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I guess my final question – the Minister did mention that it’s high throughout the Northwest Territories – what is the Minister doing to address it? I know they have the pro choices program, but what else is he doing to address this? He’s also the Minister of training and education. What is he doing to address and reduce the number of applications to get our people back into the workforce and off income assistance? What is the Minister doing to address these high rates of incidences of applications and dollars that have been going into this program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, I’d like to thank the Member for that particular question. Those are the key areas that we are focusing on. We want to have a trained workforce, whether it be from the Beaufort-Delta, Sahtu or other regions. If there are opportunities and activities that are happening, we need to be ready for them.

We are working closely with industries. We have the productive choices part of the program through income security. I’ve told my department to seriously look at the productive choices, how we can improve and have the programming we have now, so it’s sort of like incentives where individuals can explore training and explore other opportunities out there. So those are areas that I will be talking to Members, as well, and standing committee. I want to bring that forward to the standing committee if there are going to be changes and options that we need to work with. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources . We are in the earliest stages of learning about fracking. The policy development needs are huge and the time frame urgent. We know the drive for fracking is underway in the Sahtu. Funds and time are needed to determine the basis on which to make good management decisions.

Recognizing that the resource will not disappear, will the Minister of ENR commit to ensuring that we dedicate both the funds and the time required to develop a policy on fracking that will protect both our people and our land? Mahsi.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member is correct; this is an important issue. It’s a practice that we need to look at carefully. We’ve already invested considerable time and effort. We intend to come forward by this coming spring, early fall at the latest, with some guidelines built on best practices. We’ve had some very interesting meetings with the National Energy Board, as well, who’s going to be working in conjunction with us, especially at post-devolution, about the way to manage our way through this.

The Member raises a lot of issues that we are working to address and we will be sharing, of course, and involving committee in all the work that we do. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thanks for the comments from the Minister. It’s good to know that we’re on this.

Regulation of the exploration and production process is another critical matter. I mentioned the particular threat of failure of drill casings and contamination of massive amounts of water. We need a review of other jurisdictions’ regimes and evaluation of their suitability for our needs, then action to develop and put in place our own regs. Perhaps that’s part of what Mr. Minister was referring to.

Upon the release of the government response to our EDI report, will the Minister move quickly to contract and manage a review of regulatory options toward development of appropriate law for the Sahtu situation? Mahsi.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We are committed to working with committee. We are going to share the work, we are going to come up with best practices, we are going to do the regulatory review from across not only the country but we’re going to look around the work to see how it’s being dealt with in other jurisdictions that haven’t had moratoriums but are actually engaged in managing this process as they look at resource development. We will come forward and we’ll map out the next steps as we do that. Thank you.

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Mr. Speaker, thanks again to the Minister. Some jurisdictions have banned fracking. That isn’t something they do lightly, so we need to understand the serious concerns that led to this.

As I mentioned, our so-called EDI fracking tour didn’t include a visit to even one fracking site. As part of this information gathering, will the ENR

Minister work with the Industry Minister to ensure the promised southern tour of regional leaders includes a visit to a no-fracking jurisdiction and to meet with the Aboriginal leadership with extensive fracking experience in northeastern BC? Thank you.

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, I will commit to work with the Minister of ITI . I can appreciate the Member’s concern about meeting with the Aboriginal governments and going to an actual fracking site. I would think we could probably gather the information about those jurisdictions that have decided to go ahead with fracking, by looking at what is available and having those conversations. But we will do a full review of all those particular positions as it pertains to fracking. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Question 93-17(4): Good Management Practices For Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking)

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know the Minister is committed to water quality preservation, so he will understand how little we know about the state of our surface waters and the potential impacts of fracking contamination. We can’t permit fracking without knowing how it will eternally affect our waters.

Will the Minister commit to commissioning the research necessary to understand the threats and prepare for the need to act fast with supplementary budget requests if required? Mahsi.

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Michael Miltenberger

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We all have a common concern not only about not only surface water but groundwater baseline information and wildlife baseline information. We have funds put aside in the budget to put money on the table. We are working through the Environmental Studies Research Fund, as well, which is funded by industry. There’s going to be dollars available to work on the groundwater mapping, the surface water and the wildlife baseline information as well.

All the wells that are being drilled and have been drilled have to do well monitoring sites, water monitoring sites. That information is going to be collated and pulled together so we can build a map of this central Mackenzie, the Sahtu region, as it pertains to the status of the groundwater and surface water. So that work is being done. It is a critical piece, as the Member has indicated, and we are fully involved in getting that work done. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Blake .

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Question 94-17(4): Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is Education Week. It’s very important that we give

the Education councils the resources that they need to provide a quality education to our students.

I’d like to ask the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment how much funding is currently provided to the Beaufort-Delta Education Council for the e-learning program and how much is projected over the next couple of years. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Blake . The honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. The detailed information, which I can provide to the Member, I don’t have in front of me. The breakdown of the funding that the Beaufort-Delta Education Council receives on an annual basis that pertains to e-learning, I can provide that to the Member and also the forecast, how much it will cost the organization. It’s all based on the enrollment and also the programming. I can provide the breakdown to the Member. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that the Beaufort-Delta could actually lose positions in the next school year. Given that it already cuts costs per student in the Sahtu and Deh Cho regions, will the Minister ensure that no positions will be cut in the Beaufort-Delta next school year? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 94-17(4): Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, that’s a tough question to answer, but at the same time, I as Minister responsible provide funding to the school boards based on enrollment. If enrollment goes down, unfortunately, the funding is less than the previous year.

However, e-learning is a very interesting program itself. My department has been working closely with BDEC and other organizations, how we can enhance in that area, where it can be a teleconference, having a discussion as opposed to having a teacher there. Those are discussions that we are currently having as a resource tool. I believe there is a plan for a meeting with BDEC. I’m very interested and curious to know where they’re going with this, and other organizations as well. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 94-17(4): Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

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Frederick Blake Jr.

Mackenzie Delta

Mr. Speaker, I’m aware that funding is based on enrollment, but we need to ensure that it’s based on the needs of the communities.

Will the Minister commit to expand funding for the Beaufort-Delta Education Council for their e-learning program? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 94-17(4): Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mr. Speaker, this is an area that we are at the present point exploring. We’re seeking input from the general public, the stakeholders, on the renewal. Part of the renewal process is talking about the funding. Because it pertains to a small community, professionalism is

part of the pillars, and there are six of them. I just touched on two. It will be capturing the small, isolated communities. The opportunity is here before us for the next business planning cycle. That is part of the process that we want to tackle. We want to complete that by this fall so we can put that as part of the business planning cycle. Thank you.

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Question 94-17(4): Beaufort-Delta E-Learning Initiative

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister of Public Works and Services questions related to my Member’s statement earlier about freight costs for the fuel hauled into the remote communities. How does the petroleum products division currently set its fuel rates in the remote communities? Thank you.

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The Minister of Public Works and Services , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The petroleum products division works on a cost-recovery calculation. We don’t actually make profit on the fuel; we intend to actually cover the total cost. The price is determined by the product cost when we purchase it in the South, transportation costs to get it to whichever the 16 communities we provide fuel in, a sales commission that’s provided to a local vendor who adds that. Those commissions are determined based on an RFP process where they submit their potential costs, some O and M expenses, some taxes and a little bit of evaporation loss. It’s a complete cost recovery, no profit to the Government of the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Can the Minister tell me how often these fuel prices are reviewed?

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, we do fuel hauls into the different communities depending on their location. In the summertime we provide fuel by barge to some of the communities in the High Arctic. In some communities, we bring it in by ice road. Prices are reviewed every time we bring new fuel into the community.

Once again, it is a full cost-recovery program based on the cost of the fuel that we purchase and have provided to the communities. Mahsi.

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

What happens to the money that is collected when fuel prices go down after the rate is fixed in the communities served by the petroleum products division?

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you. I’m not sure I understand the question completely. The fuel

in the tanks in the community was set on a fixed price in the community and we don’t bring more fuel in for most of these communities other than once a year. So there is no variation of price. The price in the tank is what we paid for it. Thank you.

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll make it as brief as I can. Does the Minister agree to look at ways to make fuel prices more fair and reasonable in small communities, such as a freight subsidy or another form of subsidy? Thank you.

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you. Obviously we’re committed to try and get the lowest prices for fuel in the 16 communities that we provide fuel to and we’re always looking for ways to decrease the cost. As far as subsidy on transportation, I’m not sure that that would actually lower the cost, because the GNWT would still have that cost on them, but I’m interested to have a further conversation with the Member and possibly with committee to get their thoughts on this. But we’re always looking for ways to control the cost of fuel in our 16 communities. Thank you.

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Question 95-17(4): Fixed Fuel Rates In Remote Communities

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . Member for Range Lake , Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today I made reference to a tragedy in the Yellowknife community this past summer. Again, it’s important to share our thoughts for the Hardy family as I continue with this conversation.

The community and the NWT have been debating about helmet legislation and who should spearhead such legislation. I agree, as I said in my Member’s statement, it might be a bit premature to consider this legislation in the House, but I do encourage municipalities to further this process.

I believe this government could have more impact and effectiveness in the education and prevention by supporting the proper programs. So the rest of my questions today will be for the Minister of Transportation on this subject.

One of those programs, as I refer to it, is the Use Your Head Program. Can the Minister of Transportation indicate to this House his department’s commitment on this program’s continuance for the remainder of this calendar year? Thank you.

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny . The Minister of Transportation , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, getting back to the head injuries, DOT does not regulate the use of helmets for uses like with

snowmobiles, bicycles, skateboards or ice skates, in-line skates or skis. That is left up to the municipalities to deal with and that’s how that’s completed.

On a going-forward basis, DOT has initiatives under the Healthy Choices Framework. I know the Member talked of the Use Your Head Campaign that was used last year with a commercial with an Aboriginal elder wearing a helmet, a public awareness campaign. We also help with giving out funding to communities outside of Yellowknife for bicycle helmets.

There’s seasonal safety messaging, including helmet use while operating and riding of ATVs and snowmobiles, annual helmet funding to the SideDoor Skateboarding Program in Yellowknife, safety advertisements, including those showing an Aboriginal elder, like I spoke of, wearing his helmet. We also collaborate with Parachute Canada, formerly Think First Canada, to promote helmet safety in schools, and we also support community helmet safety initiatives and communications with youth centres respecting helmet safety programs around the Northwest Territories and we will continue to do that. Thank you.

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you. I do appreciate the Minister’s recant of all the initiatives I believe the government is working on here and I applaud their actions.

Can the Minister elaborate as to what other initiatives that we’re now doing currently as a result of this recent tragedy? Is there anything else that the department could consider doing in promotion and prevention of head and brain sports injuries on our NWT roadways? Thank you.

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you. I certainly do believe the Department of Transportation has a role to play in educating the public, and especially young people on the use of helmets and the safe use of helmets.

As far as future activities go and initiatives go, we’re looking at a release of an animated public service announcement on helmet use to be aired during Northbeat programming on CBC and also that would be available on demand on You Tube. We’re looking at the organization of a Take Your Helmet to Work Day, and perhaps that’s something that Members of the Legislative Assembly could in fact bring a helmet to work at some point in time.

We’re looking to increase involvement with Parachute Canada, as well as with the TD Think First for Kids and the Scotiabank Think First Smart Hockey programs, also safety advertisements featuring some NWT politicians and leaders around the Northwest Territories promoting the use of helmets around the territory. Thank you.

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you. I’m strongly encouraged with what I’m hearing today, and I applaud the department and the Minister for sharing

those great initiatives with everybody here. A lot of the initiatives may not have an educational overtone or an affect in our school system.

Can the Minister indicate if there has been collaboration with the ECE Minister to work on educational programs through the Department of Transportation, which we can touch the lives of more of our school children out there in the Northwest Territories?

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you. I’m sure our staff have talked to the staff at ECE and that dialogue will have to continue. I think getting the message into schools around the Northwest Territories is very important, and we will continue to work with ECE to make sure that any programs that we do have, any educational component reaches out to schools and young people across the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . Final, short supplementary, Mr. Dolynny .

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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Daryl Dolynny

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again great news and thanks for sharing that information from the Minister.

We know that it’s pretty hard to argue that a bicycle or a skateboard helmet will not save lives. We know they do. Unfortunately, as I indicated earlier in my statement, we might be a bit premature to bring in the legislation to debate into the House. But in order to assist municipalities prepare for their future agenda on this topic, would the Minister of Transportation provide municipal and territorial data on head and brain injuries due to road sports in the past five years and would he table such information in this House? Thank you.

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you. We could certainly take a look at compiling those statistics for the Member and sharing with the Members of this House. Thank you.

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Question 96-17(4): Helmet Safety Legislation And Education Program

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The Member for Hay River North , Mr. Bouchard .

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Question 97-17(4): Avalon Rare Minerals Thor Lake Project

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Robert Bouchard

Hay River North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated, I’m making a presentation to Avalon public hearings today. My questions today are for the Minister of ITI related to that project. Has the Department of ITI begun to create a socio-economic agreement for this project and this company? Thank you.

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Question 97-17(4): Avalon Rare Minerals Thor Lake Project

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The Speaker

Jackie Jacobson

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard . The Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 97-17(4): Avalon Rare Minerals Thor Lake Project

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We’ve been discussing, with Avalon, their plans for the development of a mine at Thor Lake for a

number of years now. Last October Cabinet gave us the mandate at ITI to look at the establishment of a socio-economic agreement with Avalon. We are currently in negotiations with Avalon on a socio-economic agreement and we hope to see that agreement put in place within the next several months. Thank you.

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