Debates of May 17th, 1996

This is page numbers 467 - 493 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 3rd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was community .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Ottawa Meeting With Prime Minister

Iqaluit Generator Failure

Minister Absent From The House

New Math Curriculum Framework

National Aboriginal Day

Member's Absence From The House

Naming Of New Western Territory

Yellowknife North Constituency Meeting At Prelude Lake

Tl'oondih Healing Camp Program

Results Of Community Leaders' Forum In Yellowknife

Traditional Spring Activities On The Land

Benefits Of Nanisivik Mine To Nwt

Closure Of The Northern Addictions Program

Loss Of 26 Neckties

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Cost Of Health Care For Northerners

Membership On Panel Of Advisors On Economy

Funding For Substance Abuse Program

Replacement Of Iqaluit Generator

Advisory Committee On Economy Membership

Maintenance Of GNWT Staff Housing In Nanisivik

Sponsorship Of Community Leaders' Forum

Inclusion Of Sale Of Assets In Budget Projections

GNWT Control Of Fuel Prices

Status Of Fort Mcpherson Water Treatment Plant Review

Air Terminal Requirements In Grise Fiord

Regular Meetings With Prime Minister Before Division

Shoreline Erosion In Tuktoyaktuk

Plans For Disposal Of GNWT Assets

Recovery Of Compensation For Victims

Amount Of Grants-in-lieu Of Taxes In Yellowknife

Topics Of Discussion At Meeting With Prime Minister

Item 10: Petitions

Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Removal And Recovery Of Consumer Price Index Increase To Members' Allowances And Expenses

Bill 15: Statute Revision Act

Bill 17: Business Corporations Act

Bill 16: Workers' Compensation Act, No. 2

Revert To Item 13: Tabling Of Documents

Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 11: Appropriation Act, 1996-97

Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 22: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Jim Antoine , Hon. Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Hon. Charles Dent , Mr. Erasmus , Mr. Evaloarjuk , Hon. Samuel Gargan , Mr. Henry , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Hon. Manitok Thompson , Hon. John Todd

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

Page 467

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Good morning. Orders of the day, item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin ,

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Minister's Statement 57-13(3): Ottawa Meeting With Prime Minister

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to inform the House this morning about my meeting this week with the Prime Minister in Ottawa.

The Prime Minister and I met Wednesday afternoon, in the Prime Minister's office on Parliament Hill, to discuss a number of issues of relevance both to Canada and the Northwest Territories. I found the discussion to be very productive and I am confident that our exchange established a strong foundation for future meetings.

The most important aspect of our discussion focused upon the creation of two new viable political jurisdictions in the North with the creation of Nunavut and a new Western Territory in April of 1999.

I informed the Prime Minister that planning for the development of these two new territories is proceeding reasonably well; however, there are areas of concern which will require attention in the coming weeks and months. in the western part of the Northwest Territories, a considerable amount of work remains to be done to ensure that the new government in the West will have a proper and sufficient constitutional base by April of 1999. 1 informed the Prime Minister that we will require the support and assistance of his government in making certain that all necessary work will be completed in the very short time remaining to us before division takes place.

With respect to Nunavut, I had a blunt and forthright conversation with the Prime Minister about where we are at the present time. I told him that I understand the financial circumstances of the country are difficult, but I felt that Nunavut requires a greater level of support than what is contemplated by the recently-announced federal decisions on infrastructure for Nunavut.

I pointed out to the Prime Minister the irony of plans to have the federal Department of Public Works involved in building infrastructure for Nunavut when the Government of the Northwest Territories is a recognized leader internationally on building in the North. The Prime Minister understood the point very well and this government will be pursuing that matter in the coming weeks.

Overall, Mr. Speaker, the discussions with the Prime Minister were very positive and I am confident that we will have his support in addressing concerns of the North as we move towards division. Thank you, Mr. Speaker,

--- Applause

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Minister's Statement 57-13(3): Ottawa Meeting With Prime Minister

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Morin . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent .

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Minister's Statement 58-13(3): Iqaluit Generator Failure

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have an emergency statement.

Mr. Speaker, I wish to advise the Assembly of a situation which may affect the power supply for the community of Iqaluit for the next few weeks.

Last night, a 2.5-megawatt generator failed in a building located near the airport. The town of Iqaluit lost power for about 20 minutes, but was fully restored and there have been no interruptions since. Technicians are investigating the situation at this moment. It is too early to know for sure whether the unit can be repaired, whether it will have to be replaced, or how quickly this can be done.

Mr. Speaker, the loss of the unit accounts for about 30 per cent of the corporation's generating capacity in Iqaluit. The remaining generators can handle the full demands of the community at this time and there is no emergency. However, other unforeseen breakdowns or problems could occur. The community then may be asked to assist by reducing consumption, or may experience rotating outages, while repairs are made.

Operators are stepping up their monitoring and maintenance programs to ensure plant reliability. In addition, a new twomegawatt generator has recently been ordered and will be installed by September.

Mr. Speaker, the corporation regrets the inconvenience and concern this may cause for Iqaluit residents, but we hope that customers will be prepared to lend their cooperation should it be required. Thank you.

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Minister's Statement 58-13(3): Iqaluit Generator Failure

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Minister's Statement 59-13(3): Minister Absent From The House

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to advise Members that the Honourable Stephen Kakfwi will be absent from the House today to attend an economic planning conference in Norman Wells. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Morin . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent .

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Minister's Statement 60-13(3): New Math Curriculum Framework

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Quyannamik, Ohaqti.

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Some Hon. Members

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Minister's Statement 60-13(3): New Math Curriculum Framework

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Parents across the Northwest Territories, particularly in small communities, have expressed concerns about the standards of education their children receive. In light of those concerns, I am pleased to announce that boards of education will introduce a new math curriculum framework during the next school year.

Once it's in place, parents can be assured that the math lessons being taught to their sons and daughters will be the same as they are in the western provinces and Yukon.

Mr. Speaker, the new framework will help students develop positive attitudes about math and learn skills they need to take them into the 21st century. It emphasizes problem solving, how to communicate effectively about math, and how to connect mathematical ideas to other school subjects and to everyday experiences.

About 150 key resources have been selected to help educators teach the concepts in the framework. Because the western provinces and northern territories make up a sizeable market, publishers and suppliers can now develop learning resources specific to western and northern needs.

The math framework is one of the first joint projects under the Western Canadian protocol, signed in December of 1993. Participating in the Western consortium allows us to share information, pool expertise and use our resources more effectively. The common framework ensures that students can move and not have to worry about catching up with a different math program in their new school. Developing frameworks with other jurisdictions provides us with further assurances that the quality of NWT curricula is as good as anywhere else. Mahsi cho.

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Minister's Statement 60-13(3): New Math Curriculum Framework

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Dent . Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Antoine .

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Minister's Statement 61-13(3): National Aboriginal Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have the pleasure to announce in the Assembly today that

the federal government has proclaimed June 21st of each year as National Aboriginal Day.

National Aboriginal Day has been proclaimed as the day to celebrate the contribution of aboriginal peoples as Canada's First Nations to Canadian society, and to recognize the importance and richness of their different cultures. The Government of the Northwest Territories has lead by example in integrating aboriginal values and traditions into almost every aspect of its activities. The Legislative Assembly, the educational curriculum and the delivery of health care are but a few examples of how aboriginal influences have been steadily advancing to the forefront.

A National Aboriginal Day is long overdue and I'm confident that in the years to come, it will become an important day for the citizens of the Northwest Territories and, subsequently, the citizens of Nunavut and the new Western Territory.

On June 21st, the summer solstice, I encourage groups and individuals to participate in the celebration of the contribution of and the foundation laid by Canada's First Nations -- the aboriginal people -- towards the development of a rich Canadian society. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

--- Applause

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Minister's Statement 61-13(3): National Aboriginal Day

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark .

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Member's Absence From The House

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning. Mr. Speaker, I wish to inform this House that the honourable Mr. Enuaraq will be absent from this House to attend to a personal family matter in Clyde River. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ningark . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .

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Naming Of New Western Territory

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to briefly comment on the naming of the territory. I found the comments made by the Honourable Steve Kakfwi, a colleague and friend, to be very eloquent and, I thought, very appropriate. They outlined very clearly why we should have a new name for the territory. I would hope that over the course of the upcoming months, we will have a very clear choice between not just accepting the status quo, but a name that does reflect the North, made in the Worth, picked by the people in the North, that reflects what we want and who we are. I fully support the sentiment of my colleague's comments.

The name that comes to mind, that I've heard over the years, 'Nahendeh," seems to have a certain amount of merit for consideration. It is one of the languages spoken up here, so I hope that we do have a clear choice. I was very, very impressed by the comments of my colleague. Thank you.

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Naming Of New Western Territory

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An Hon. Member

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Naming Of New Western Territory

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus .

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Yellowknife North Constituency Meeting At Prelude Lake

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased today to announce that I was a part of history the other evening. I held a constituency meeting at Prelude Lake and I was told it was the first one they ever had there.

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Yellowknife North Constituency Meeting At Prelude Lake

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Roy Erasmus

Yellowknife North

Some of the concerns and suggestions, things that were discussed, was that perhaps we should keep the name of the Northwest Territories for the Western Arctic; people were very concerned that the youth inhalant program was not going to be funded any longer and they want our territorial government to do something about that; that trucking companies should pay to maintain the road on the Ingraham Trail because the use of that road by the big trucks is very destructive to the road.

They also wanted someone to tell the people from Census Canada where they are, because they still have not received their forms and nobody has come out there to see them. So if Census Canada is listening, they're out on the Ingraham Trail.

They also wanted to know the status of the shooting corridor and they wanted something to be done. They also wanted to know about the MLA compensation package; the debate. When I explained the package that we had taken, people seemed in agreement that it was quite reasonable. People wanted to know if there could be some kind of a block fund transfer along the trail, because the Mackenzie Valley Resources Management Act is going to be implemented and seems to be quite haphazard.

They also wanted to know what the government is doing about a new constitution or government here; whether there are going to be regional and central governments. I told them I was pretty sure there was going to be a central government. They also wanted to know if lots would be available at Cassidy Point for people to buy.

Finally, I'm also pleased to announce that one of the constituents there felt that I worked too hard and that I should get a raise. Thank you.

--- Applause

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Yellowknife North Constituency Meeting At Prelude Lake

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Just to again remind the Members, under Members' statements, they should confine a statement to one matter only. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .

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Tl'oondih Healing Camp Program

Item 3: Members' Statements

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last year was the first year of operation for the Tl'oondih Healing Camp, which is operated by the Tl'oondih Healing Society, which is a registered, credible organization in Canada. There were 152 men, women, children and infants who participated in the program. Only four people have dropped out of the program for one reason or another, which means that 97 per cent of those people who attend the Tl'oondih program stayed to the completion of the program which is a five-week program.

However, Mr. Speaker, there were no last-minute drop-outs for the program. Everybody who said they were going to attend, attended the program and made an effort to be in McPherson and up to the camp.

As I mentioned earlier in the last couple of weeks in my statements, there is currently a waiting list of 215 men, women and children who would like to attend this unique program, which is designed and developed in the North by Northerners. Mr. Speaker, the Tl'oondih camp provides employment to 22 people in such areas as community health workers, therapists, administrators, cooks, camp maintenance people, adult councillors, youth councillors, child care workers and day care workers.

The healing camp also hires people to cut wood, transport people and goods as they are needed, and the program is unique; its basic initiative is to help families. This is basically the first program in the country which has been developed by an aboriginal organization and which has been funded by the Gwich'in Tribal Council. We urge this government to seriously consider looking at this program with regard to its uniqueness.

A family who goes through this program together will save this government large amounts of money and allow people to gain pride in themselves and fit into the wage economy. With that, I will be asking the appropriate Minister a question in this matter, at the right time. Thank you.

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Tl'oondih Healing Camp Program

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .

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Results Of Community Leaders' Forum In Yellowknife

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Qujannamiik, lksivautaaq.

--- Applause

In March, the city of Yellowknife sponsored a two-day community leaders' forum where about 25 community leaders from various groups and organizations attended. The purpose of this forum was to begin the process of developing a shared vision for the future of Yellowknife.

The comment was made that over the next few years, Yellowknife will be exposed to major influences that could radically change the community. These issues that were discussed were division of the Territories, the continued downsizing of the government in the NWT, decentralization of services and the development of community empowerment and community wellness strategies, the potential development of new mines in the region, the settlement of land claims and development of aboriginal self-government and the need to position the city to take advantage of new business opportunities.

At the end of the forum, the participants held a joint session and they summarized some of their major conclusions. I will briefly touch on those. The forces of change affecting Yellowknife over the next few years will radically transform the community. Planning for change means developing a vision of the kind of community we want to live in. In developing our vision, we have to address a number of issues. One of the most significant is our need to create a unique identity apart from the Government of the Northwest Territories.

In a new Western Territory, the residents of Yellowknife will make up close to 50 per cent of the population. It is time that we take a leadership role in creating the new territory and in defining our role within the new territory.

City council must play the lead role in creating the new vision and developing the strategic plan. They stated that in order to carry this out, City Council must reinvent itself. The time is right for change. With the GNWT willing to hand over responsibility for a wide variety of services, the city has a window of opportunity.

The Members have stated that though we expect council to take the lead role in shaping the new vision and strategy plan for Yellowknife, they didn't expect it to act alone. They expected council to involve the Yellowknife MLAs and the leaders from across the community.

The forum was the first step in developing a new vision.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Ootes , your time is up.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Ootes .

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Qujannamiik, lksivautaaq. Several weeks ago, the four Yellowknife MLAs held a follow-up session with the city, aldermen and the administration, to discuss creating a shared vision for Yellowknife. Another follow-up meeting is to be held in June.

I commend the city of Yellowknife for this progressive attitude they are taking in planning their future and the city administration and political leaders. I felt the process was excellent and it will likely lead to a better community. I would encourage other communities throughout the Territories to start looking at the same process considering the changes that the territorial government is making to itself, which will affect the communities. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Just to correct the Member, 'Iksivautaaq" means Mr. Chairman. Mr. Speaker is "Uqaqtii.' I didn't know that either, so...

--- Laughter

Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Roland .

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Traditional Spring Activities On The Land

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good morning, honourable Members. This morning, I would like to speak about people travelling on the land. This time of year, there are many people who prepare for spring out on the land, travelling and taking

part in their traditional activities. Many people from my riding in the Inuvik area and the Delta at this time of year, prepare and are travelling to their camps and will stay out at their camps for the spring break-up.

This time of year is also dangerous during the spring breakup. I would like to send to the people travelling out on the land a message of safety to prepare well because we can never tell what Mother Nature will do.

I also have my parents travelling out on the land preparing for such a time of year. I have relatives back home doing the same thing. I wish them the safe spring season and hunt. I would also like to send greetings back to my family in Inuvik. Thank you.

--- Applause

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Traditional Spring Activities On The Land

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 470

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Roland . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Barnabas .

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Benefits Of Nanisivik Mine To Nwt

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 470

Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will bring this up even though the Minister is not here. The Minister is already aware of my statement. (Translation ends)

The agreement provides for education and training for northern residents to ensure that the people of the North benefit from the mine being established on their lands. The Commissioner of the NWT was supposed to appoint a counsellor. The counsellor was to have the responsibility of arranging training and educational upgrading for northerners. Training and education would give them hiring priority. The counsellor was also responsible for helping northerners working at the mine with work and living conditions, helping them cope with stress from working in the mines.

It is clear that this type of person would help northerners to get and keep jobs in the mine. However, it appears that this government has never appointed a counsellor. With no one monitoring the agreement and ensuring the terms are being adhered to, northern residents are being left out in the cold. As a result, the number of northern residents employed by Nanisivik Mine has declined in recent years. There are plans for other new mines in the Northwest Territories. Northerners have the same concerns now as they did in 1974, NWT residents need the benefits of this mine to stay in the North.

Among the biggest benefits from opening the mine were provided to its employees and to boost the economy...

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Samuel Gargan

Mr. Barnabas , your time is up.

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

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Samuel Gargan

The Member for High Arctic is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Conclude your statement, Mr. Barnabas .

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This government has been very clear in its intention to have as many northerners working in the new mines as possible. Perhaps this government can back up its intention by implementing this dated promise from 1974 and follow through on its good intentions. I intend to ask questions to the appropriate Minister on Monday when he is in the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Henry .

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Closure Of The Northern Addictions Program

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 471

Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Over the past week, we have heard from various Members who addressed concerns over the imminent closure of the northern addictions program for inhalant and substance abuse, which is currently offered in Yellowknife, with services used from across the North.

As my fellow Member from Yellowknife North stated, this facility will be forced to discontinue the program next month due to a lack of federal government funding. This situation is very unfortunate as there is such an obvious need. The eight-bed facility is operating at capacity and has a waiting list of youth needing this service.

Mr. Speaker, within the past week, we have had several calls of concern from our community over the closure and are in receipt of a large number of letters supporting the continuation of this facility. I will be tabling these letters later today in the House.

This facility has a valuable role in our social network. I believe our youth are our future and we must provide enough resources for them to grow into healthy members of our society. If we do not, we will further place a burden on our social, health and justice systems. It is vital that we provide the needed programs for our youth. If this means we have to sacrifice some levels of programs for adults, then so be it.

We must provide the services for all youth who need support from drug, alcohol, substance and solvent abuse. If we do not, the repercussions felt later will far outweigh what the costs are for providing these services now. Later today, Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister for some responses.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Henry . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Picco .

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Loss Of 26 Neckties

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 471

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, a major loss occurred approximately two weeks ago when this honourable Member, in response to the dapper and debonair standards of this House, were called into jeopardy, Mr. Speaker.

As a result of these standards, proceeding from the Centre Square Mail area to my domicile, it became evident that my suit appendage was missing. Mr. Speaker, 26 appendages - or neck ties in some circles -- were gone astray. Retracing my steps, I was not able to recover the appendages, but lo and behold, the Honourable John Todd jumped into the breach and presented me with two wonderful ties.

However, Mr. Speaker, as most Members know, because my neck and my style are a little different than the Honourable John Todd , I have only worn those ties twice. I will endeavour to reciprocate the honourable Member when he comes to Iqaluit next week for his visit and I would recommend to the Minister that he would wear the pull-away ties on his visit to Iqaluit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

--- Laughter

--- Applause

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Ng .

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Further Return To Question 248-13(3): Response For Requests For Intervenor Funding

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 471

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Roy Erasmus on May 16, 1996, in response to his request for intervenor funding.

Mr. Erasmus asked me about an application for aboriginal rights court challenges funding on behalf of the Yellowknife Dene First Nation and the Treaty 8 Tribal Council.

I acknowledge that letters were received in connection with this application, dated April 19, 1995, December 21, 1995 and May 8, 1996. No written response has been sent by the Department of Justice, but there has been contact by telephone. The chairperson of the Aboriginal Rights Court Challenges Committee called after both the April and December 21 letters and explained the nature of the additional information that would be required before the application could be considered. That additional information has not been provided.

Although this request for additional information has been conveyed by telephone, I have asked the Department of Justice to ensure that a letter is sent confirming the additional information that is needed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Krutko .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

I would like to recognize a former Member of the House, Mr. Fred Koe, who is acting executive director of CDSC, at this time.

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Page 472

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Welcome to the Assembly. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ootes .

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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Page 472

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to recognize Mr. Koe, as he is a constituent of mine now.

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Page 472

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ningark .

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize a friend and hunting partner, Mr. Koe.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Krutko .

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Question 252-13(3): Cost Of Health Care For Northerners

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng . I say that with great pride, since he is becoming a close friend of mine.

--- Laughter

The question I have for the Minister is with regard to the overall cost to this government of what is being paid to facilities in Canada and what we are paying in the way of costs for clients per day in these southern institutions and northern institutions. I would like the Minister to tell me if he can have those costs tabled in this House for all the Members, to see the comparison.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng . That was two questions.

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Question 252-13(3): Cost Of Health Care For Northerners

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be willing to get into the details of that information when that budget of the Department of Health and Social Services comes before Committee of the Whole. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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Question 252-13(3): Cost Of Health Care For Northerners

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As you know, the Tl'oondih healing program is a new program and they have been trying to acquire resources to operate as a northern facility. As I stated earlier, they are registered as a charitable organization in Canada. Yet, they seem to have difficulty in maintaining adequate funds to continue to operate. La st year, the program cost in the range of $1.2 million compared to other facilities such as Hay River, Yellowknife and Iqaluit.

Because the Tl'oondih Healing Society is trying to fund-raise to southern institutions and look for additional resources because they may not be able to operate fully this year without those resources. As the Minister stated in the last couple of weeks, they have contributed $300,000; but my understanding of the $300,000 is that that is not core funding, that is basically for services that they will be willing to provide as they admit clients to this program through Social Services. They are for non-insured health benefits. That means that only status Indians and Inuit can take this program.

Will the Minister agree to deliver to this House the status of being able to deliver this program to Metis and non-aboriginal people, as well?

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Question 252-13(3): Cost Of Health Care For Northerners

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . Again, to remind the Members, to limit your

preamble to before you make your three supplementaries. Mr. Ng .

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Question 252-13(3): Cost Of Health Care For Northerners

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the department has agreed to cover treatment costs at Tl'oondih for non-status individuals through the extended health program, provided that those individuals have received approval to attend the Tl'oondih Healing Centre. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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Question 252-13(3): Cost Of Health Care For Northerners

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

To date, the Government of the Northwest Territories funds four facilities to the tune of $4 million. I would also like to know about costs for the services we get from southern institutions, such as Bellwood and other areas like that. There are some options that the government is looking at, where we talk about empowering communities and finding new ways to do government. I think we have to consider looking at the private sector, but also looking at it in the context of trying to use northern facilities more then we use southern facilities. I would like to have something on that also. Thank you.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Ng .

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 472

Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I acknowledge the comments of the honourable Member. It's something the department is striving towards, in setting out

in our business plans the priority of trying to keep our resources in the North utilized as fully as possible, by trying to minimize the amount of dollars being spent in southern institutions. That's something we've recognized and we've already started working on planning for that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ootes .

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Question 253-13(3): Membership On Panel Of Advisors On Economy

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 473

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now that we're working our way through the budget, I think that the government will be starting to shift its focus to economic stimulation. Members have spoken on that, and Mr. Todd outlined that in his budget address. There will be a challenge there to create jobs for people. I wondering if the Premier would be in a position to advise us of the membership of his panel of advisors on the economy.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 473

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

The Premier , Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have written to all the members and I've talked to them on the phone. They've all agreed to sit on that panel. I wrote to Members yesterday. You should be getting that letter fairly quickly. What we've come up with are 16 members on that panel, and those members are from every region in the Northwest Territories. There are a mix of people with many different business backgrounds, and I'm looking forward to meeting with them fairly quickly once we get out of this session; hopefully, in June sometime.

I had hoped we would be able to make the panel a bit smaller than 16, but I'm also of the full understanding that business people are business people and they have to run their businesses. So we appointed 16 people and I'm expecting them all to come for a meeting in early June. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes .

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased to hear that the Premier has expanded the panel. I feel that because some people may not be able to make it from time to time, that's excellent. I wonder if the Premier could tell us if he will develop the objectives of this panel in conjunction with the panel members. Perhaps if he could tell us when he expects to have his first meeting with them.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I expect our first meeting to be sometime in June. I will be looking

forward to the panel's input and I'll take whatever they say into consideration and take their advice. That's the main reason to establish this panel; to get the advice of these independent business people on what direction we can go and how we go about getting there. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Ootes .

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Page 473

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

This panel will be of great importance to us and of interest to the Members of the House. I wonder if the Premier could commit to keep us updated on progress; perhaps a

summary of each meeting as he has held meetings with the business community.

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Mr. Morin .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would be pleased to do that. Thank you.

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Question 254-13(3): Funding For Substance Abuse Program

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 473

Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Health , Mr. Ng . This House has recently heard concerns over the imminent closure of Northern Addictions program for inhalant and solvent abuse provided to aboriginal youth from across the Territories, and is presently funded by the federal government. I would like to ask the Minister if he has had the opportunity to look into this area of providing funding so that that function can still remain in operation.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Health and Social Services , Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yes, as I indicated earlier in this House, the department is looking at their internal spending to see whether or not we can divert some funding from our existing programming to try to keep the adolescent solvent abuse treatment program in operation. Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister if he has a time line when this report will be ready for presentation to himself, for a decision on this program. The federal government funding ends on June 30th, I believe. Does the Minister have a time line when he would be able to report back or make a decision on this?

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Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would anticipate that, during the early part of June, I would have some kind of options put before myself from my departmental officials to see what action we could take in respect to this issue. Thank you.

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Question 255-13(3): Replacement Of Iqaluit Generator

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 474

Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is concerning the very serious situation in Iqaluit. I would like to say that I appreciate Mr. Bill Braden from NTPC, who contacted me last night shortly after the failure, keeping me up to date on the situation. Mr. Speaker, the Minister has said that NTPC will be replacing the 2.5 megawatt generator, but they're going to replace it with a two-megawatt generator. Will the two-megawatt generator be enough when it's replacing a 2.5-megawatt generator? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation, Mr. Dent .

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the two-megawatt generator which I mentioned in my statement, is one that was planned to come into the community as a replacement already. So that generator had been ordered and was scheduled to be delivered on the sealift this summer. What that will do is provide us with the extra capacity. I said in my statement that the generators in place right now are sufficient to run the town at peak load. At the present time, there isn't a danger of having rotating outages or running into problems with there not being enough power, but we do have a problem with back-up.

The two megawatts will provide us with sufficient back-up to get through, but that's not necessarily a long-term solution. We will be assessing whether or not the generator that failed last night can be re-built or whether it should be replaced, and I would be happy to keep the Member and the community informed as to the progress on that decision. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm pleased to hear that. There have been ongoing problems with the generators in the last couple of years. Maybe the Minister could inform the House, from preliminary investigations, of what happened last night. What caused the failure of said generator? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the exact cause of the failure is still under investigation. A preliminary examination of the situation tends to indicate that the generator itself failed, and that's what caused the fire. The fire did not significantly damage the building or the switch gear. At this point in time, it looks like it's only the generator and perhaps the engine which are damaged. As I said, we're still assessing whether or not it's possible to rebuild those. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Edward Picco

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, in light of the failure of the generator, has NTPC looked at the capacity in the community of Iqaluit? As the Minister knows, it's one of the fastest-growing communities in the Northwest Territories. With it being named the capital, we expect more growth. Has NTPC looked at increasing the capacity in Iqaluit after this serious situation; even though we are having the two megawatt now coming in this fall, will that be enough? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, because of spring coming and the impact that has on power demand, which means that the demand should go down, it gives us a little bit of room to enter into the sort of planning that the Member is asking about. The plan right now would be to replace the unit which has failed, in addition to the new unit that was coming in. We will, however, take a new look at the situation, given the circumstances of the fire last night, and make sure that we are covering off our future requirements. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 256-13(3): Advisory Committee On Economy Membership

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Vince Steen

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the honourable Premier if he could give us some information on how he's proceeding with the appointments to his Advisory Committee on the Economy. I believe it has been a while now since he advised the House that we would have such a committee, and I'm sure that other Members are as anxious as I am to know who these members are and when this committee will start meeting. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To start that process, I wrote to all Members of the Legislative Assembly to ask them for recommendations on who could sit on this independent advisory panel. Some Members did reply, then I went and looked into every region in the Northwest Territories for independent business people out there, as well as people with business experience. From that, I finalized the list approximately 10 days ago. I have been able to contact nearly all those people and all of them have agreed to sit on that panel.

I sent them a letter last week and I have written to every Member of this Legislative Assembly, yesterday, advising them of who is going to be on that panel. Hopefully in June, we will have our first meeting. Also, Mr. Speaker, I would be pleased to give a statement in this House on Tuesday, advising the public at large, as well as this House, who is going to be sitting on that panel. Thank you.

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Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Barnabas .

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Question 257-13(3): Maintenance Of GNWT Staff Housing In Nanisivik

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Levi Barnabas

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question regarding government staff housing in Nanisivik. The supervisor who was in charge of looking after that was laid off. What are the plans with the government staff housing in Nanisivik? I'm asking this question to the Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan

Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Arlooktoo .

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, I will take this question as notice and get back to the Member, once I find out. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Question 258-13(3): Sponsorship Of Community Leaders' Forum

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 475

Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I spoke earlier this morning on the community leaders' forum that had been held in Yellowknife, and I'm wondering if the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs could advise if she would consider promoting the holding of similar meetings in communities -- especially the larger communities throughout the Northwest Territories -- in consideration of the fact that the Government of the Northwest Territories is looking to transfer a lot of the programs to community authority.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , Mrs. Thompson .

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We will be having a regional leadership summit happening in the regions and, yes, I will consider that. Thank you.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the successes I found, of the several meetings I attended, was the presence of a facilitator which allowed the meeting to flow towards a certain direction and have goals. I'm wondering if the Minister would consider, as well, if community forums are held, that the use of a facilitator be obtained.

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Mrs. Thompson .

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I will consider a facilitator. At this time, MACA will be facilitating the regional leaders' summit and we will be considering that. Thank you.

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Jake Ootes

Yellowknife Centre

I wonder if the Minister could keep us informed as to the results of the community leaders' conference that's planned.

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Manitok Thompson

Aivilik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will keep the Members informed on all regional leaders' summits that will be happening in the future. Thank you.

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Question 259-13(3): Inclusion Of Sale Of Assets In Budget Projections

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 475

Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Finance . The Minister is proposing a balanced budget next year. I would like to add that that gives me some glimmer of hope. We've also heard that, through petroleum products privatization, we have assets worth approximately $80 million. The government has also told us that they are looking at privatizing and selling off the staff housing. My question to the Minister is, in his assumptions about a balanced budget next year, is the potential sale of

these assets figured into his projections of a balanced budget?

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Item 6: Oral Questions

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd .

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The sale of the staff housing is the only factor built into our budget projections. Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So the staff housing is calculated in. Petroleum products are, I take it, not calculated in. Does the Minister have any potential estimates on what staff housing will generate if the sale of that goes ahead, and what he's calculating as an additional revenue.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe we have somewhere around 560 staff houses that we haven't sold. It is our intention to, once again, give the tenants who are in the current houses another opportunity to purchase those houses at significant discounted rates. However, if the tenants choose not to, then we would more than likely put the houses up on some sort of public tender. We are working on a paper right now. My understanding is we are calculating, based upon some experience we have gotten from the houses we have sold across the Territories, somewhere between $15 million and $20 million. Thank you.

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Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have also talked in this House about the spending habits the government has. Will the addition of this revenue also be included additional cuts to spending? Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will certainly try. We are looking at generating some revenues from the sale of staff housing. I will also ask the Minister, will he be looking at cutting other forms of spending and not just selling off assets. You will run into a wall sooner or later when all your assets are gone if you still don't get your spending under control. Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do have in place, as my honourable colleague knows, a two-year fiscal plan to balance the budget. In that two-year plan, there are cuts and amalgamations. I did indicate to the Government Operations committee the other day if we meet our targets that we have set for each other, we will need a contingency plan and we are working on that plan should we not be able to meet the targets through some unforseen circumstances, whether it is future cuts to the base by our colleagues in the South, the federal government, or whether it is an emergency in terms of disasters, et cetera.

We are reasonably confident that with the cooperation and support of the House, we can meet these targets. However, I want to assure my colleague that I am not a man of one option -I never have been -- and we will be making contingency plans in case we can't meet these targets that we have set together in the deficit elimination strategy. Thank you.

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Seamus Henry

Yellowknife South

On the sale of assets, Mr. Speaker, can the Minister inform us of any other potential assets that the government is looking at selling in the future? There are petroleum products and housing. Are there any other assets they are looking at privatizing or disposing of? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We do recognize that, clearly, just the privatization initiatives we put forward for consideration and the strategy of the selling of assets with respect to staff housing is only one part of our program. My colleague, Mr. Arlooktoo , Minister of Public Works , is currently working on a paper to identify other potential areas of sale of government assets that perhaps are no longer required and will be presenting that soon I believe to Cabinet and, ultimately, to the committees. Thank you.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, I had questions on the price of gasoline to the Minister responsible for petroleum products. Today I have another question for the Minister. Does this government have any control over the price of gas at the pump?

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, in the areas where fuel is bought and sold by private companies, we do not have control. In the majority of communities where the government buys and sells through its contractors, we do set a price at the beginning of the year and generally stick with those prices.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Would it then be in those communities that the government is subsidizing the rate of gas at the pumps?

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, on a cost-recovery basis, they have had no fuel price increase since 1992 in areas where the government provides the fuel. This is where the petroleum products revolving fund has kicked in and we are now into a bit of a deficit. The petroleum products revolving fund, in a sense, does help stabilize the prices.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So this government doesn't have any effect on the price of gas in communities where there are private companies that deliver fuel. Does this government realize any revenue from any portion of the price of gas at the pumps?

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, the government does receive some tax revenue from gas in communities.

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Floyd Roland

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is what is realized from the pumps in communities where private operators provide the service the same in the communities where the government is the one that provides the service?

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Public Works with regard to the Fort McPherson water treatment plant. I am still receiving a lot of phone calls on that. I would like to ask the Minister what the status is on the review that is being done right now on the water treatment plant.

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs is currently beginning a study to look for any options that the committee may have, and have identified $40,000 for this study.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think the concern of the community is not another study, but the question of the water quality. There was a report issued by your department and it stated that there are some traces of cancer-causing components in the water supply. I think that is the biggest concern of the community to date. We are talking about six different chemicals that you have been adding to the water system to try to resolve this problem ... So with regard to that, the $40,000 study is great, but we have a concern with the community which is now becoming a health concern.

I see there is a real urgency to try to find a mechanism of dealing with this. Will the Minister, and his honourable colleague, the Minister of MACA , make an attempt to go into the community and sit down with community members and the people from the Health department, municipality and band council to try to resolve this ASAP?

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Goo Arlooktoo

Baffin South

Mr. Speaker, I very well understand the concerns of the community and of the MLA. According to a recent sampling, the water quality meets the standards of the Canadian drinking water standards. The Department of Municipal and Community Affairs and Public Works representatives who represent the Minister and myself will be in the communities and have been consulting with the communities to work on any future solutions.

The water treatment plant that is in Fort McPherson right now was built in 1989 at a cost of $2 million. We are currently spending $120,000 a year on some improvements since then. I am informed that the occurrence of these chemicals is a seasonal spring-time occurrence due to lowwater levels and isn't unique to this community. I share the concerns of the Member and I assure him that we will work as closely as we can to try to deal with it.

I am also informed that the cost of another supply would cost in the area of $8 million to $10 million. Because of that, we need to look at this very carefully.

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With regard to the statement by the Minister, I would like to ask him and his colleague from MACA, if they could travel to Fort McPherson with me to have a public meeting on this issue and get input from the community, and also see exactly what we are talking about. You are talking about $40,000 to do another study. You are saying because it is going to cost $8 million to look at an additional water source, you are coming up with a Band-aid solution. Yet, the community feels strongly that it is more than a water quality issue; it is a health issue.

I would like to send an invitation out to the Minister and the Minister of MACA to travel to Fort McPherson to have a public meeting on this issue.

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