Debates of June 24th, 1992

This is page numbers 745 - 761 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 2nd Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was housing .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Ministers' Statement 73-12(2): Abortion Services

Ministers' Statement 74-12(2): Hay River Reserve Treatment Centre

Ministers' Statement 75-12(2): Ministerial Assignments

Revised Business Incentive Policy

Aboriginal Representation In Corrections Services

Rcmp Detachment Remain In Grise Fiord

Inmates Voting In Elections

Ingamo Hall Programs

Economic Development Of Nwt

Lack Of Phone Service In Small Communities

Tfn Land Claim Ratification And Political Accord

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Question O634-12(2): Factors Considered In Advancement Of Children In School

Question O635-12(2):aboriginals Employed In Management Positions, Corrections Services

Question O636-12(2): Amendments To NWT Elections Act

Question O637-12(2): Responsibility For Government's Operations At Expo

Question O638-12(2): Meeting With Quebec Premier On NWT Concerns Re Great Whale Project

Question O639-12(2): NWT Disability Pensions

Question O640-12(2): Ministerial Information Re P And L Services Contract

Question O641-12(2): Status Of Report Of Traditional Knowledge Working Group

Question O642-12(2):report On Feasibility Of Privatization

Question O643-12(2): Communication Services In Communities

Question O644-12(2): Federal Government Funding Based On Census

Question W43-12(2): Adequacy Of Educational Assessment

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

W34-12(2):payments To Chairpersons Of Agencies, Boards And Commissions

W39-12(2): Availability Of Financial Assistance For Post-secondary Students

W40-12(2): GNWT Employees On Educational Leave In 1992-93

W42-12(2): Operation Of The Information Contra Dawson City, Yukon

Report Of Standing Committee On Legislation On The Review Of Bill 30

Report Of The Standing Committee On Finance On The Review Of Bill 9

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Notice Of Motion 21-12(2): Appointment To Fill Vacancy On Executive Council, Cabinet

Notice Of Motion 22-12(2): Support For Participant Funding In The Great Whale Hydroelectric Project

Regulating Adventurer Travel In The Nwt

Appointment To Fill Vacancy On Executive Council, Cabinet

Item 18: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Item 19: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 20: Third Reading Of Bills

Item 21: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Hon. Thus Allooloo, Mr. Antoine , Mr. Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Hon. Michael Ballantyne , Mr. Bernhardt , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Ms. Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Mr. Ningark , Hon. Dennis Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Mr. Todd , Hon. Tony Whitford , Mr. Zoe .

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Good afternoon. Orders of the day for Wednesday, June 24, 1992. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Ministers' Statement 73-12(2): Abortion Services

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, at a meeting on Thursday, June 18, the abortion services review committee presented me with its report. The report, with a translated introduction and recommendations, will be tabled at the appropriate time today. Translation is continuing on the remainder of the document, and it will be made available to Members as soon as it is completed.

The abortion services review committee completed the difficult task set out for it in its terms of reference tabled in this House on April 15, on time and within budget. I am pleased with the general approach taken by the committee, and support the positive nature of the 32 recommendations.

Earlier today, I met with members of the Status of Women Council of the Northwest Territories to provide them with an overview of the report. A complete briefing of the council's membership is taking place this afternoon.

In addition, the board of management of Stanton Yellowknife Hospital and the Department of Health, in consultation with other health and hospital boards, have been directed to examine the report and Its recommendations and to develop an implementation plan by July 31 of this year. I will table the implementation plan early in the fall session.

Mr. Speaker, it is important to note that the committee was given the mandate of referring any matter arising from the review for more specific investigation by a professional licensing or other disciplinary body where It considered such action to be desirable and in the public interest. The chairperson has advised me that there was no evidence of professional malpractice and no basis for recommending disciplinary action. As a result, the committee made no referrals.

The chairperson has also advised that all members of the committee were offered the opportunity of providing an addendum to the report to set out issues or facts which they believed warranted communication. In that respect, one member concurred fully with the recommendations, but would have preferred to see additional editorial changes to the body of the report, although no specific dissenting opinion was put forward.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to personally thank all individuals and organizations, such as the Status of Women Council, who came forward to provide information and opinion to the review committee members. All of them played a positive and

constructive role in sharing their experiences with the expressed intention of improving the delivery of abortion services in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

--- Applause

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Ministers' Statement 73-12(2): Abortion Services

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Mr. Morin .

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Ministers' Statement 74-12(2): Hay River Reserve Treatment Centre

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

Mr. Speaker, during the last session, the Member for Deh Cho announced that site clearing had been completed and foundation work for the Hay River Reserve treatment centre would begin this spring. Tu Cho Gha Contracting Ltd., a construction company which is 100 per cent owned by the Hay River Dene Band, undertook this work.

On June 4, 1992, the Department of Public Works, with the approval of the Financial Management Board, awarded a negotiated contract to Tu Cho Gha Contracting Ltd. for the construction of the centre. The contract is worth $2.3 million. The treatment centre is expected to be finished in the spring Of 1993.

This construction project will provide much needed employment for band members and valuable business experience for this company. This is the largest project ever undertaken by Tu Cho Gha. The subcontractors and suppliers are all NWT companies, and include Mackenzie Electrical Ltd., Weaner's Plumbing and Heating, United Carper/United Furniture, Alternative Energy Supplies, Igloo Building Supplies and Lakeshore Building Supplies, all from Hay River. In addition, Silverado Painting from Yellowknife is also a subcontractor.

The band leadership has played a major role in securing this facility for their community. During the past several years, members of the band, along with representatives from surrounding communities, have helped DPW and Social Services in planning this project.

The Department of Social Services has supported DPWs efforts to work with Tu Cho Gha and the Hay River Dene Band throughout the planning of the project and contract negotiations. Construction of the centre is managed by DPW on behalf of the Department of Social Services. This facility will provide an important service for many years to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ministers' Statement 74-12(2): Hay River Reserve Treatment Centre

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Ministers' Statement 75-12(2): Ministerial Assignments

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, over the past few weeks I have been considering a re-alignment of ministerial responsibilities, particularly because of our plan for consolidation. More recently, a motion of this House has requested that I report, by today, on what I plan to do in respect to a lack of confidence ordinary Members have expressed in certain Ministers.

Mr. Speaker, I have given this matter careful consideration, and do not believe there is good reason to act on the premise of lack of confidence. However, a more equal distribution of portfolios will be announced shortly, once I have had the opportunity to speak with the new Minister to consider individual preferences and abilities in relation to the strength and workloads of other Ministers. As previously mentioned, these changes will be accompanied by the re-assignment of some deputy ministers. Thank you.

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Ministers' Statement 75-12(2): Ministerial Assignments

Item 2: Ministers' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Todd .

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Revised Business Incentive Policy

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is not often that I get an opportunity to stand here and throw compliments to Members of the cabinet on a job well done. However, today I am pleased to give credit where credit is due. Earlier this month, the Minister of Public Works , the Hon. Don Morin , brought forward a revised business incentive policy. This improved policy will allow northern businesses a greater opportunity to receive GNWT contracts. I was particularly happy to see this policy now apply to all authorities that receive over half their funding from the GNWT. This is long overdue.

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Morin was also able to convince CMHC to allow this policy to apply with respect to the Housing Corporation contracts. This is surely a major breakthrough. Many past Ministers have attempted to convince CMHC to accept this provision. Mr. Morin has succeeded in getting it done. Perhaps we should allow Mr. Morin to undertake more negotiations with the federal government, considering his stunning success.

-- Applause

It would certainly be really stunning if he could convince the NWT Power Corporation to accept a similar policy. It is no secret that I have long been a major opponent of an absolute preference for northern businesses who bid on GNWT contracts. While the revised policy does not go this far, it does indeed represent a substantive improvement that should see a large reduction in the dollars flowing south.

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Revised Business Incentive Policy

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Ms. Mike .

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Aboriginal Representation In Corrections Services

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to raise a concern about the way corrections services is administered by the Department of Social Services. Mr. Speaker, the corrections field can be a rewarding career for aboriginal people, who have had an interest in working with people, throughout the Northwest Territories. This field can offer them an opportunity to help others and to develop their skills in fulfilling work with offers and potentials for career advancement. But, Mr. Speaker, aboriginal people are not well represented within the corrections field. There are 254 corrections positions in the Department of Social Services.

Seventy-four of these are filled by aboriginal people. Mr. Speaker, that means aboriginal people hold 29 per cent of corrections jobs, and that Is not good enough.

What concerns me even more is that of 13 positions that are classified as management, only one position is held by an aboriginal person. Mr. Speaker, that is a very poor record for corrections services. Although aboriginal people are turning to the corrections field for a promising and fulfilling career, it seems there is a block within the system. Aboriginal people are simply not advancing to the management level. I am very concerned with the record of the Department of Social Services with respect to the representation of aboriginal people at the management level. The government must make serious efforts to improve their performance in this crucial area. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Aboriginal Representation In Corrections Services

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Pudluk .

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Rcmp Detachment Remain In Grise Fiord

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of my constituents in Grise Fiord is concerned that the RCMP will be removed because of what Inspector J.W. Rushton had written. For a number of reasons, Grise Fiord feels they need the presence of the RCMP. It was created by the RCMP with the present population coming from other communities in the High Arctic. Even though it is a remote place to live in, it has been a community for quite some time now. So the people feel that if the RCMP is removed from Grise Fiord, their people might move out.

The people that were raised there feel they are aboriginal and want to keep living there too. But if the detachment is to be closed and moved to other communities, the people born there will feel quite an impact of this.

They say the reason is because of the budget cutbacks but, from my point of view, I feel the funding should not be used as an excuse for law enforcement program cuts.

Today I would like to ask the federal government to review and to reconsider that the detachment should remain in Grise Fiord. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

-- Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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An Hon. Member

Hear, hear!

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Pudluk . Members' statements. Mr. Gargan .

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Inmates Voting In Elections

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Members of the Legislative Assembly may recall that I introduced a motion on July 3, 1991, which urged the Minister of Justice to refer the prohibition against inmates voting contained in our legislation to the Supreme Court of the Northwest Territories so that the court could determine whether the prohibition was constitutional. At that time, a number of lower level courts had determined that similar provisions in other jurisdictions contravened the Charter right that guarantees every citizen of Canada the right to vote in an election for Members of the House of Commons or the Legislative Assembly.

At that time, Mr. Speaker, we were facing a territorial election, and I believed that it was important that the courts ruled on the issue before an election, rather than during an election and risk disrupting the entire election process. The motion was defeated, Mr. Speaker, much to my dismay.

We are fortunate that no challenge was launched by inmates during the last territorial election. A challenge could have seriously disrupted the entire election and, I believe, based on recent court decisions, would have been successful.

Very recently, Mr. Speaker, yet another high level court decision was released which held that a similar provision of the Ontario Elections Act was unconstitutional. The Ontario Court of Appeal, in the case of Sauve vs Attorney General of Canada, hold the prohibition unconstitutional saying that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms confirms "that the right to vote must be protected against those who have the capacity, and often the interest, to limit the franchise."

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to bring to Members' attention the fact that the chief electoral officer, in Tabled Document 50-12(2), a report on our last election, has suggested that the Legislative Assembly may wish to review the issue of inmates' voting rights with a view to possible future amendments to the NWT Elections Act.

I am, today, calling on this government to recognize that our Elections Act contains a

section which has been held unconstitutional by other courts and to take the wise advice of the chief electoral officer. I urge this government to correct this situation immediately and remove this ancient, outdated and unconstitutional prohibition. Thank you.

--Applause

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Gargan . Members' statements. Mr. Koe .

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Ingamo Hall Programs

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to say a few words about the programs Ingamo Hall offers to the people in Inuvik. Ingamo Hall is constantly looking at programs that will enhance the community. Since Inuvik has an equal number of Gwich'in, Inuvialuit and non-aboriginal residents, the centre tries to appeal to these groups. The staff are using innovative ways to bridge gaps in the community. One way that the centre is trying to bring people together is to plan programs that will strengthen the relationships between youth and elders.

Ingamo Hall has taken on a stronger community spirit and has become involved in a variety of community agencies. The centre has provided practise space for organizations and donated time to fellow agencies.

Over the past 12 months, Ingamo Hall has run 18 regular programs, eight annual events, and hosted a variety of feasts and dances, seminars and workshops. The friendship centre has also initiated now programs. These programs are offered to the community and taught by local people. The new programs offered this year included art classes, a healing circle, literacy programs, monthly coffee houses, new dimensions, strings across the sky and a trading post. These programs were delivered to enhance the skills of the community people.

As well, the programs are accessible to any individual or group in the community. Individuals from outlying communities are also welcome to got Involved. The staff at the friendship centre are presently looking into other programs for the upcoming year.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to recognize the opportunities that Ingamo Hall is providing to the people in Inuvik and the surrounding communities. Any time that visitors are in Inuvik, please take the time to visit Ingamo Hall. Mahsi cho.

--Applause

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Ingamo Hall Programs

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you, Mr. Koe . Mr. Lewis .

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Economic Development Of Nwt

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today because I am very concerned about the direction in which this government is going as it relates to the overall economic development of our Northwest Territories. What I have seen in the Now Directions paper is an attempt to decentralize jobs to other places, and there is a mixed signal, Mr. Speaker, when at the very time we are in need of economic development, the amount of money that is made available for the Development Corporation, which has already been reduced once from $10 million down to eight million dollars, is now going to be reduced to six million dollars.

It had been our recommendation over the last four years that what we should be doing is looking at some mechanism for creating wealth in our small communities; not simply by providing government jobs.

Although that may be an interim thing, what we have to look at is to find ways to develop another sector of our economy. It is a bad signal, I think, to the people of the Northwest Territories that we have so little imagination that all we can do is out down the amount of money that will create real wealth in the future by simply replacing it in the easiest way which is simply to just move a job out. Thank you.

--Applause

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Economic Development Of Nwt

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Members' statements. Mr. Antoine .

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Lack Of Phone Service In Small Communities

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I am going to speak in my language today. (Translation) Where I am from, there are three communities Jean Marie River, Nahanni Butte and Trout Lake, that do not have telephones. In each community, they only have one pay phone. If one wants to use it, sometimes the offices are locked up late at night, so it is difficult for people to use the phone. Now there are such things as faxes and telephones, and a person can communicate very easily, but not in those communities.

The reason I am saying this is because the NorthwesTel company over there, last year, raised a lot of money through the pay phones that are in these communities. As a government, we should get the government to assist them to get more phones for those communities. Mr. Zoe and Mr. Bernhardt have a similar situation in their ridings. I am really concerned about this, and this is why I wanted to raise it. Thank you.

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Lack Of Phone Service In Small Communities

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Allooloo .

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Tfn Land Claim Ratification And Political Accord

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was very pleased last May 5 when the results from the plebiscite were finalized, and it appeared that the dream that we had carried in our hearts, Nunavut, would be established within the next decade. However, I would like to emphasize that there is a lot of work to be done before this now territory becomes a reality. The residents of the entire NWT began to march down the road toward Nunavut when we voted to confirm the boundary line. However, the next stop is up to the Inuit residents of Nunavut when we vote to ratify the Tungavik Federation of Nunavut land claim early in November.

Without the acceptance of the claim by the Inuit the establishment of Nunavut becomes less likely and, indeed, almost impossible

at this time.

In order to approve the claim, a majority of Inuit in each region must ratify the claim. This does not mean that only a majority of Inuit who vote must approve of the claim, but that at least 51 per cent of all Inuit on the voters' list must agree to accept the claim. It is vital that the beneficiaries show their support by voting, as a "no show will count as a 'no'." I, as chairman of the Nunavut caucus, urge all Inuit who are eligible to vote to be sure that their vote counts that we may move toward the attainment of our shared dream, a now territory called Nunavut.

There is much work to be done before Nunavut is established on April 1, 1999. The successful ratification of the land claim is the first stop in the process, and negotiations toward the successful creation of Nunavut must proceed in an orderly manner with full participation of residents of the territory. We look forward to participating in the building of our new homeland, and wish to get on with the work. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tfn Land Claim Ratification And Political Accord

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

I have cautioned ordinary Members about trying to stay within the time frames of Members' statements. I think it is only fair that I caution Ministers, when they are giving Members' statements, to try to live within the guidelines set out in the rules. Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Return To Question O612-12(2): Status Of Report Re Fuel Oil Contracts

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I have a reply to Mr. Arngna'naaq 's question regarding contracts for fuel oil delivery, Anderson report follow-up. Copies of the second phase of the Anderson report were given to the standing committee on finance and to the standing committee on public accounts on March 3. Additional copies of the report will be distributed to all Members today. In light of the report's findings, existing petroleum delivery contracts were extended for one year to enable the government to look at ways of improving the award process.

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Return To Question 560-12(2): Grise Fiord Polar Bear Quota

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

I have a reply to a question asked by Mr. Pudluk on June 19 regarding the Grise Fiord polar bear quota. In April 1992, the communities of Grise Fiord, Arctic Bay and Pond Inlet signed a co-management agreement on the polar bear population that they share. The agreement recommends that quotas cover all polar bears taken from that population. The Department of Renewable Resources will meet with the hunters' and trappers' associations from these communities to discuss some options of what should be done about the polar bears that are killed by the Greenlanders.

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Return To Question O544-12(2): Recruitment Of Manager Of Medical Travel

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Page 748

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

I have a return to an oral question asked by Ms. Mike on June 17, regarding recruitment of manager of medical travel. Ms. Mike is correct in stating that a competition was held, and the successful candidate declined the offer of the position.

Subsequently, efforts were made to identify a suitable individual within the Department of Health or the Department of Social Services, given the plans to amalgamate these two departments. Again, a suitable candidate was not identified.

The position of manager of medical travel is a very important one, and the plans to fill this position have not been put on hold. The position is now before the staffing officers, who will look for persons affected by the work force adjustment program across the Government of the Northwest Territories, in order to identify any suitable candidates. Thank you.

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Further Return To Question O565-12(2): Prospects North Conference In Eastern Arctic

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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John Pollard

Hay River

I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Todd on June 18, 1992. It concerns funding for Prospects North and Russian delegates. Mr. Speaker, under the Department of Economic Development and Tourism organization support policy, Prospects North, a non-profit organization established to promote business and investment in the North, received $50,000 from the Government of the Northwest Territories in the fiscal year 1991-92 and another $50,000 this fiscal year.

The government did not provide any financial assistance to the Russian delegates attending the conference. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Gargan on June 16, 1992. On the highway reconstruction project near Fort Providence, the department has a service contract with DIGAA Enterprises Ltd. for the supply of engineering support and services personnel. On June 12, out of 19 persons working on the contract, 18 are native residents of Fort Providence, with the survey party chief being an experienced surveyor from British Columbia.

The contract for the reconstruction work is with Amy's Construction Ltd. of Rae. Of the total of 28 persons employed by the contractor, 16 supervisors, equipment operators, mechanics and servicemen are from Alberta, while three equipment operators are from Fort Providence. All of the labour and flag persons, eight in total, are local native hires from Fort Providence. The administrator of the project is a northern native from Fort Rae.

The department's own hiring policy is in line with the overall GNWT policy in that preference for casual summer employment is given to returning native students, returning northern students, and other Northerners, in that order. Thank you.

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Question O634-12(2): Factors Considered In Advancement Of Children In School

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 749

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Education . I have a situation which I have lot ride for the last three years. It is with regard to the end of each school year, when report cards are given. One of the factors, Mr. Speaker, in determining whether or not a student advances to the next grade, is based on his size, including his age. I can only refer to my own situation, in which I have a young boy who is seven years of age, who is going to fail his grade for the third year because of his size, and I cannot believe the teachers are allowed to do that.

If a child is smart enough to advance, I think that should be the determining factor, not his size or his age. I would like to ask the Minister whether or not he is aware of these kinds of practices happening in the communities because it has gone on now for about three years.

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Mr. Speaker, no, I am not aware of that kind of situation. I am under the impression that when the students are able to pass their grades, they are able to advance a grade in the following year. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister whether or not he may be able to look into the situation I am referring to in Fort Providence if I refer the students and the parents that were told that?

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I will look into it.

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Question O635-12(2):aboriginals Employed In Management Positions, Corrections Services

Item 5: Oral Questions

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Social Services . As I stated in my Member's statement today, Mr. Speaker, there is only one aboriginal person within the corrections services in the management level. What is your department planning to do to increase the number of aboriginals, or to encourage the aboriginals to get into the management level within corrections services?

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Mr. Whitford .

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department is instituting in-house training, a competency based training package, that will help persons in the corrections field to advance to higher levels as they develop their interests and their skills.

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Question O636-12(2): Amendments To NWT Elections Act

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 749

Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under tabled documents, the report of the chief electoral officer,

section 10 refers to inmates voting. The chief electoral officer is suggesting that the territorial government should review its Northwest Territories Elections Act in light of the fact that recent court cases have made certain sections of the NWT Elections Act unconstitutional. I would like to ask the Minister of Justice whether or not he is aware of the Ontario case and the recommendations of the chief electoral officer, and to ask if his department is prepared to make amendments to the Northwest Territories Elections Act to reflect that?

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Mr. Patterson .

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I am aware of the current cases in Ontario, Sauve vs the Attorney General of Canada and the Belczowski case, earlier. Mr. Speaker, I am advised that the Belczowski case is presently under appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada, and that the prudent course of action would be to await the result of that issue by the Supreme Court before making any decision to change the NWT Elections Act, so we are awaiting the Supreme Court of Canada ruling on this case. I think we have the benefit of some time because, fortunately, there will not be a territorial election for a few years. That is the position I am now taking on that matter, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, with regard to the last court challenge, which has been referred to the Supreme Court of Canada, it was appealed because of the recent election in Manitoba, and that was the only reason it has gone to a higher court. But that does not stop an inmate from challenging the

section of our Elections Act, regardless of whether we still have three more years to go. If there was a challenge, I would think the result would be the same anyway. I would like to ask -- I am not too sure about the length of time it will take before a decision is made by the Supreme Court -- whether or not the Minister should be working on changing the

section that is in the constitution now, in the event that it is challenged.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Mr. Speaker, I would venture to say that if an inmate challenged the territorial Corrections Act -- or I should say the Elections Act which would be the statute at issue -- there is some possibility that the court would await the final word of the Supreme Court of Canada on that

matter. I want to assure the honourable Member that if it appears that once this issue is resolved in the courts, if it appears that our statute is contrary to the Charter of Rights for Canada, then this government will bring forward an appropriate amendment to the Legislature to correct that inequity. We are prepared to do so.

I am told, however, Mr. Speaker, that there are some special circumstances in the Northwest Territories that may not have been considered in the Ontario case, and that the prudent approach would be to await the Supreme Court of Canada judgment, see whether it applies to us as well as it applies to Ontario, and then, as I said, if the judgment is that this ruling should apply to the Northwest Territories, this government will bring forward the appropriate amendment. But for those reasons, I believe the prudent course would be to await this appeal which will settle it by the very highest court in the land. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

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Samuel Gargan

Deh Cho

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister what he meant when he said the circumstances in the North may make it so unique that it does not require a change to our Elections Act.

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Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, in the Ontario case, Crown counsel stated that the practical problems of providing security to inmates to vote would not be an issue in the case; that in Ontario these problems would not be argued as a justification for preventing inmates to vote. However, Mr. Speaker, in consultation with the corrections services, I think we have to be sure, in the Northwest Territories, that those practical security issues would not be a problem or would not be a barrier to allowing inmates to vote.

It may be that in a small community, given our staff-to-inmates ratio, It may be that we would have practical problems in allowing inmates to vote in an election. I am not saying this is the case, but it is a factor that I think makes the Northwest Territories perhaps different from Ontario, and that was one of the considerations we will have to evaluate in light of the Supreme Court ruling. Thank you.

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Question O637-12(2): Responsibility For Government's Operations At Expo

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 750

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On June 22, 1 asked the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism whether his office was taking responsibility for the government's operations at Expo in Seville. The Minister responded that it has been a joint operation between the departments and that it has been co-ordinated through his office. My question to the Minister is, if this is a joint responsibility, can he tell me what aspects of the operation his office is responsible for?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Ward reports to my office. The people on site at Expo report through Mr. Ward to the department, so Mr. Ward deals with the department when he is looking for extra supplies or logistical items. Any problems that Mr. Ward encounters come to my attention. He is usually reporting his sales daily to my office, and my office is responsible for collating that information and putting together the report that I intend to put before the House tomorrow. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

My supplementary is to the same Minister. Who is Mr. Ward, and what are his responsibilities?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Ward is the agent general, and is running the operation for the NWT in the Canada Pavilion. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Is Mr. Ward a government employee, or is he a contract employee?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Ward is a contract employee for the life of the fair, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Were all residents of the Northwest Territories given an opportunity to bid on the contract, executive general, or whatever you call it, of the pavilion? Were all residents of the Northwest Territories given an equal opportunity to bid on this contract?

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Mr. Speaker, the position was not advertised. Thank you.

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Question O638-12(2): Meeting With Quebec Premier On NWT Concerns Re Great Whale Project

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Government Leader regarding the Great Whale project. The Premier of Quebec and Members of his Cabinet have taken the position that they are not willing to see the Great Whale hydro development delayed in order to satisfy the interests of a group of aboriginal people which they consider to be a small and insignificant fraction of the Quebec population. Is the Government Leader willing to meet with Mr.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, yes, I will relay that message. As a matter of fact, I had a meeting, I think earlier this month, with Premier Bourassa, at which time I relayed to him a number of issues of concern that we have, and that is one issue I brought to his attention. However, I will formalize that more by stating again the concern that you have raised. Thank you.

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Supplementary to the Government Leader . There has been some well-reasoned speculation that Quebec's motivation to proceed with this project is tied to prospective sovereignty issues. Is the Government Leader prepared to make the issue of transboundary environmental damage between provinces and territories a matter for discussion at national constitutional negotiations? Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, we can make an attempt to bring it forward, and I believe when Mr. Kakfwi and myself meet with the premiers at various meetings that are set, we do bring up these issues. it may not be discussed at the table, but in order to justify why we feel we should be part of the broader government discussion is because a lot of individual actions taken by the provinces really do affect us, and we will continue to take those key issues. In particular, this project has been brought up on numerous occasions but not necessarily at the table, and we will continue to do so.

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Question O639-12(2): NWT Disability Pensions

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Social Services . In yesterday's Member's statement, I noted that the Northwest Territories Council for Disabled Persons has estimated that over 5000 persons with disabilities live in the Northwest Territories. During the 11th Legislative Assembly, this House was informed that work was proceeding on the development of a plan to establish disability pensions as opposed to the current process of forcing disabled people to rely on social assistance payments to meet their living needs.

Can the Minister indicate to the House whether or not, under his administration, the department will set a priority on evaluating whether a system of indexed disability pensions could be developed to remove the stigma faced by disabled persons when they must turn to social assistance?

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, we will.

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Jim Antoine

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a supplementary to the Minister of Social Services . What community consultation has taken place to date with respect to identifying enhanced approaches to meeting the needs of disabled persons across the Northwest Territories?

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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will take the question as notice.

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Question O640-12(2): Ministerial Information Re P And L Services Contract

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism . Yesterday when I asked him whether he was aware that there are three identified areas of scallop beds in Cumberland Sound, one being the mouth of Pangnirtung Fiord, his reply was, "Yes," and that the vessel that was used to do the resource assessment stopped due to the engine problem before the resource assessment was completed. I would like to know from where the Minister is getting his information.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the resource was identified in 1987 and 1989. I believe that the vessel in question was working on those beds when it lost its engines, Mr. Speaker.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Mr. Speaker, my supplementary to the same Minister. Is the Minister aware that P and L Services, who was contracted out by Economic Development and Tourism at the time, had to stop the resource assessment of scallop beds because the Economic Development and Tourism contract was not covering the costs incurred by P and L Services?

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John Pollard

Hay River

I am aware of some dispute with regard to that vessel, P and L, and the department, Mr. Speaker, yes.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Mr. Speaker, a supplementary to the same Minister. The impression I got from his response yesterday was that the reason the resource assessment did not continue was because the P and L Services' vessel's engine broke.

Is the Minister aware that the reason why P and L Services discontinued their resource assessment was because they were losing money with the contract that was provided by Economic Development and Tourism?

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John Pollard

Hay River

As I have said, Mr. Speaker, I am aware that there is a problem, or that there has been problems in the past. I would advise the Member that we received an application from P and L with regard to this vessel. It was returned in March 1992 because it was incomplete. We are anticipating that their application will be tabled again tomorrow, Thursday, June 25, with a view to seeking assistance from us. Tomorrow there should be another application with regard to this vessel. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All I wanted to know was where the Minister of Economic Development and Tourism getting his information from because, as I said, P and L Services did not stop the resource assessment on scallop beds due to the engine problem. It was due to losing money with the contract that they had with Economic Development and Tourism. My question was, from where is he getting his information?

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the information comes from the department. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Friday, June 19, 1 asked the Minister of Culture and Communications about a report prepared by the traditional knowledge working group. The Minister responded to one of my questions by stating that he was asked by the executive director of the cultural institute to hold back on responding to the report's recommendations until the group had a chance to review, re-evaluate and reconsider its recommendations. It is my understanding that the group has met, re-evaluated and reconsidered, and has decided that the original recommendations are still relevant.

This was communicated by letter dated May 1. The Minister subsequently responded on May 25 stating that he will be bringing a proposal to cabinet in June outlining the way they are going to respond. Has the Minister brought his proposal dealing with this issue to cabinet?

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Titus Allooloo

Amittuq

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have directed the department to prepare a paper for cabinet. We have not dealt with it, but I can assure the Member that it is on the move. Thank you.

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Question O642-12(2):report On Feasibility Of Privatization

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister responsible for the NWT Power Corporation. Yesterday, in Hansard, the Hon. Nellie Cournoyea indicated that Mr. Abbott, a retired partner with Coopers and Lybrand has been retained to prepare a report on the feasibility of privatization. Would it be Mr. Abbott's intention to discuss this privatization with Northerners? Are we going to be involved in discussions that relate to privatization, or is it going to be an academic exercise?

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Mr. Minister.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would believe that in any exercise such as this, that everyone possible who has information or some assessments should be contacted and dealt with.

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Mr. Todd , supplementary.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Given that privatization could have an impact on the employees and unionized employees, will Mr. Abbott be discussing with the organized labour, their concerns and their input into this privatization thrust?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, when we took over the Power Corporation from the federal government, part of the take over included the union aspect of that corporation. When we deal with the privatization of the petroleum products, that would also be part of the consideration in privatization.

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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Michael Ballantyne

Supplementary, Mr. Todd .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Will the employees who will be effected through privatization be given an opportunity to put forward their input into the feasibility of privatization?

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Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would say yes to that.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Antoine .

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Question O643-12(2): Communication Services In Communities

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 752

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know the government is not responsible for communications telephones, but I want to ask if the Government Leader would be willing

to get a hold of NorthwesTel for us to try to provide better services into the communities that require better telephone services.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Morin , Minister of Government Services .

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Don Morin

Tu Nedhe

I commit to the Member that I will got in touch with NorthwesTel and raise those concerns with them.

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Todd .

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Question O644-12(2): Federal Government Funding Based On Census

Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 753

John Todd

Keewatin Central

To the Minister of Finance . It is my understanding that the government received additional funding from the federal government based on the revision of the new population census. Is it the intention of the government to redistribute some of these funds to hamlets with respect to their increased population as it is currently funded under the old population figures?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Pollard .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

Page 753

John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, it is true that we received some good news in that respect. We have not as yet crunched all the numbers or received the agreement of the federal government. I would suggest to the Member that perhaps the new funding policy, that has been worked on by Mr. Patterson through Municipal and Community Affairs, will address the population increases in communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Mr. Todd .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

I appreciate It will address the population increase in the community. Will it address the additional funding that would be required given there is a population increase in the community?

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Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Pollard .

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Item 5: Oral Questions

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I am not an expert in this new funding policy for municipalities. I will take the question as notice and provide a copy to the Member.

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The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Question has been taken as notice. Item 6, written questions. Mr. Antoine .

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Question W43-12(2): Adequacy Of Educational Assessment

Item 6: Written Questions

Page 753

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a written question for the Minister of Education . Would the Minister please table the following information in the House:

a) the cost spent in the 1990-91, 1991-92 and to date in 1992-93 fiscal years for travel and contract services related to educational, learning and occupational assessments of NWT students in southern Canadian resource facilities;

b) the number of full-time educational psychologists capable of completing educational assessments who are presently on staff at divisional boards of education, district school boards or the board of secondary education;

c) the number of resource teachers working for the same educational boards who' have advanced training in the assessment of learning disabilities; and

d) the amount of contribution funding provided in the 1990-91, 1991-92, and to date in 1992-93 fiscal years, to community organizations mandated to provide support or training for learning disabled children, their families and their teachers?

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Item 6: Written Questions

Page 753

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Written questions. Item 7, returns to written questions. Mr. Clerk.

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Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Mr. Speaker, returns to Question W34-12(2), Question W39-12(2), Question W40-12(2) and Question W42-12(2).

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W34-12(2):payments To Chairpersons Of Agencies, Boards And Commissions

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

Page 753

Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Nellie Cournoyea 's return to Question W34-12(2), asked by Mr. Koe on April 3, 1992: A chart showing payments made to chairpersons of boards and agencies for the 1991-92 fiscal year may be obtained from the Legislative Assembly.

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W39-12(2): Availability Of Financial Assistance For Post-secondary Students

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

Page 753

Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Thus Allooloo's return to Question O39-12(2), asked by Mr. Koe on June 19, 1992:

The following NWT student financial assistance programs are available to students to continue post-secondary education in the 1992-93 school year: supplementary grants, basic grants, post-secondary student incentives (remittance loan), special training allowances, primary loan, secondary loan, needs assessed loan, scholarships and correspondence course fees.

In addition to these programs, the federal government funds the GNWT to provide the university college entrance preparation program for Inuit and treaty Indians. Also, the GNWT provided, in 1991-92, four seats by contract with the University of Manitoba.

One thousand and forty-eight students were approved for financial assistance in 1991-92. Figures for the 1992-93 school year are not complete yet as applications are still being received. The names of students receiving financial assistance, or those who have been refused assistance, is considered confidential. All students applying for financial assistance will receive funding if they meet the eligibility criteria under the Student Financial Assistance Act and Regulations.

Students receiving financial assistance in 1991-92 were taking over 110 programs. Three hundred and seventy-two students were registered at Arctic College. Four hundred and seventy-five were enrolled in other institutions in a degree or certificate program, and 275 in a technical program.

The levels of assistance individual students are receiving are determined by the Student Financial Assistance Act and Regulations.

Information on the funding individual students are receiving is considered confidential.

A lengthy report with detailed information has been provided directly to the Member asking the question, the MLA for Inuvik, Mr. Koe .

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W40-12(2): GNWT Employees On Educational Leave In 1992-93

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

Page 753

Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. Titus Allooloo 's return to Question W40-12(2), asked by Mr. Koe on June 19, 1992

Due to fiscal restraint, there were no funds available in the education leave program to support any employees who applied for education leave in 1992-93 to begin a new program of studies. Twenty-six employees applied to begin a new program.

Fourteen GNWT employees applied to continue in their programs for the 1992-93 school year. The 14 employees applying to continue their programs were approved for 1992-93. The 14 employees are continuing on education leave in a variety of programs and a number of post-secondary education institutions.

A report providing further details on employees applying for and receiving education leave has been provided directly to the Member asking the question, the MLA for Inuvik, Mr. Koe .

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W42-12(2): Operation Of The Information Contra Dawson City, Yukon

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

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Clerk Of The House

Mr. David Hamilton

Hon. John Pollard 's return to Question W42-12(2), asked by Mr. Nerysoo on June 19, 1992. The visitor centre in Dawson City is being operated by the Department of Economic Development and Tourism, and It is staffed by three casual employees during the 1992 tourism season. The person hired to manage the facility lived in the Inuvik area prior to attending Arctic College in Fort Smith. The other two staff members are summer students from the Inuvik Region.

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W42-12(2): Operation Of The Information Contra Dawson City, Yukon

Item 7: Returns To Written Questions

Page 754

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Returns to written questions.

Item 8, replies to Opening Address.

Item 9, petitions.

Item 10, reports of standing and special committees.

Item 11, reports of committees on the review of bills. Mr. Arngna'naaq .

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Report Of Standing Committee On Legislation On The Review Of Bill 30

Item 11: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Page 754

Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to report to the Assembly that the standing committee on legislation has reviewed Bill 30 , and wishes to report that Bill 30 is now ready for committee of the whole.

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Report Of Standing Committee On Legislation On The Review Of Bill 30

Item 11: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Page 754

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Mr. Patterson .

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Report Of Standing Committee On Legislation On The Review Of Bill 30

Item 11: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Page 754

Dennis Patterson

Iqaluit

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In light of Mr. Arngna'naaq 's report, I would seek unanimous consent to waive Rule 66(5) and have Bill 30,

An Act to Amend the Workers' Compensation Act , placed on the orders for committee of the whole for Thursday, June 25, 1992. Thank you.

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Report Of Standing Committee On Legislation On The Review Of Bill 30

Item 11: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Page 754

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

The Member is requesting unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays, Mr. Patterson . Bill 30 will be referred to committee of the whole for Thursday. Mr. Todd .

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Report Of The Standing Committee On Finance On The Review Of Bill 9

Item 11: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Page 754

John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Rule 66(1) requires that a bill referred to a standing committee shall not be proceeded with until the Assembly receives the report of the committee or 120 days have passed since the second reading. The standing committee on finance has not completed its review of Bill 11 ,

An Act to Amend the Insurance Act, and therefore requests the unanimous consent of the House to recommit Bill 11 to the standing committee on finance under Rule 66(1).

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Report Of The Standing Committee On Finance On The Review Of Bill 9

Item 11: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills

Page 754

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Bill 11 will be recommitted to the standing committee on finance. Kom 11, reports of committees on the review of bills. Item 12, tabling of documents. Mr. Pudluk .

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Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Page 754

Ludy Pudluk

High Arctic

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At this time I would like to table Tabled Document 59-12(2), addressed to the Minister of Education , May 21, 1992, from the Nanisivik community education council. it supports the recent action taken by Joe Enook of the Baffin Divisional Board of Education. Mr. Enook refused to sign Appendix B to the contribution agreement. Thank you.

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Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Page 754

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Tabling of documents. Ms. Cournoyea .

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Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Page 754

Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table Tabled Document 60-12(2), Report of the Abortion Services Review Committee, Northwest Territories, June 1992.

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Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Item 11: Tabling Of Documents

Page 754

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

If I could correct the record, I understand that the bill we dealt with, the Insurance Act, is actually Bill 9 , not Bill 11 , so I will correct that for the official record as I speak here.

Item 12, tabling of documents. Item 13, notices of motions. Ms. Mike .

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Notice Of Motion 21-12(2): Appointment To Fill Vacancy On Executive Council, Cabinet

Item 13: Notices Of Motion

Page 754

Rebecca Mike

Baffin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Friday, June 26, I will move the following motion: I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Inuvik , that this Legislative Assembly recommends to the Commissioner of the Northwest Territories that Mr. Arvaluk , the Member for Aivilik , be appointed to the Executive Council, cabinet. At the appropriate time, I will seek unanimous consent to proceed with this motion today.

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Notice Of Motion 21-12(2): Appointment To Fill Vacancy On Executive Council, Cabinet

Item 13: Notices Of Motion

Page 754

The Speaker

Michael Ballantyne

Notices of motions. Mr. Pudlat .

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Notice Of Motion 22-12(2): Support For Participant Funding In The Great Whale Hydroelectric Project

Item 13: Notices Of Motion

Page 754

Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South