Debates of Nov. 1st, 2010

This is page numbers 5399 - 5430 of the Hansard for the 16th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was northwest .

Topics

Oral Questions

Members Present

Prayer

Minister’s Statement 77-16(5): Devolution Of Lands And Resources - Environment And Legislation

Minister’s Statement 78-16(5): Updates To Extended Health Benefits

Minister’s Statement 79-16(5): Drive Alive

Minister’s Statement 80-16(5): Employee Satisfaction And Engagement Survey

Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

Condolences To The Families Of Archibald Lennie Sr.

Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

Bathurst Caribou Herd Management And Preservation Agreement

Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

Inmate Transition Facilities

Proposed Revisions To Occupational Health And Safety Regulations

Eligibility Criteria For Homeownership Entry Level Program

Status Of Deh Cho Bridge Project

Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

Committee Report 4-16(5): Report On The Review Of The 2008-2009 Annual Report Of The Languages Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories

Motion To Receive Committee Report 4-16(5) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Committee Report 5-16(5): Report On The Review Of The 2008-2009 Annual Report Of The Information And Privacy Commissioner Of The Northwest Territories

Motion To Receive Committee Report 5-16(5) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Committee Report 6-16(5): Report On The Review Of The Report Of The Auditor General On Education In The Northwest Territories

Motion To Receive Committee Report 6-16(5) And Move Into Committee Of The Whole

Tabled Document 106-16(5): Letter Of Instruction To Commissioner George Tuccaro, Dated October 6, 2010

Tabled Document 107-16(5): Geographic Tracking Of Expenditures, Expenditure Data For The Year Ended March 31, 2008

Tabled Document 108-16(5): Waste Reduction And Recovery Program 2009-2010 Annual Report

Tabled Document 109-16(5): NWT Business Development And Investment Corporation 2009-2010 Annual Report

Tabled Document 110-16(5): The Arts Professions Act,

Chapter A-28.002 Of The Statutes Of Saskatchewan 2009

Tabled Document 111-16(5):

Summary Of Members’ Absences For The Period February 27, 2010 To October 13, 2010

Lower Maximum Unit Rents For Public Housing

Bill 21: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2009-2010

Bill 22: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 5, 2009-2010

Bill 23: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 2010-2011

Bill 24: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 4, 2010-2011

Referral Of Tabled Document 103-16(5), Government Of The Northwest Territories Contracts Over $5,000 Report, Year-To-Date Of The Fiscal Year Ending March 31, 2010

Bill 13: Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2011-2012

Bill 14:

An Act To Amend The Conflict Of Interest Act

Bill 15:

An Act To Amend The Fire Prevention Act

Bill 16:

An Act To Amend The Dog Act

Bill 17:

An Act To Amend The Income Tax Act

Bill 18:

An Act To Repeal The Settlements Act

Bill 19: Municipal Statutes Amendment Act

Bill 20:

An Act To Amend The Evidence Act

Bill 13: Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2011-2012

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Bill 13: Appropriation Act (Infrastructure Expenditures) 2011-2012

Orders of the Day

The House met at 1:41 p.m.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Good afternoon, colleagues. Welcome back to the Chamber. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers’ statements. The honourable Minister of Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Minister’s Statement 77-16(5): Devolution Of Lands And Resources - Environment And Legislation

Ministers’ Statements

Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Gaining northern control over the resource management decision-making process is one of the main reasons the Government of the Northwest Territories is pursuing devolution.

Until Northerners have this control, we are not in the position to determine the pace of development in our Territory.

The residents of the Northwest Territories, especially aboriginal people, have a special relationship with the land and water. We all have a strong interest in making sure our land and water is protected and our resources are developed in a wise and sustainable manner.

A devolution agreement will give Northerners the ability to make sure development proceeds in accordance with the principles of environmental protection and sustainability that are so important to all of us.

The draft agreement-in-principle for devolution of the authority over land and resources from Canada to this government includes a number of key elements which support the vision and priorities of the Legislative Assembly.

Mr. Speaker, all Members believe, and agree, our natural resources are a fundamental element of our identity and our capacity to generate wealth and a sustainable future. This is the reason we established a Managing This Land Strategic Initiative, managed by a Ministers’ committee.

Through this strategic initiative, we have worked closely with aboriginal governments to develop the Northwest Territories Water Stewardship Strategy, which outlines our vision, values, goals and objectives for the protection and use of our water resources. This is an example of what can be done when northern governments, organizations and residents work together.

We have developed a collaborative process with aboriginal governments and other stakeholders to develop important legislation such as the Species at Risk Act and the proposed new Wildlife Act. This uniquely northern approach brings all parties to the table, shows mutual respect and creates a stronger finished product.

Mr. Speaker, we recognize the mirror federal legislation required to transfer the jurisdiction from Canada to our government will not immediately reflect the values of NWT residents. We know amendments to legislation will be needed. However, mirroring the federal legislation is a requirement that will provide for a smoother transition of responsibility and administration between our two governments. It will also provide certainty to existing right holders, residents and industry that the rules will not be immediately and drastically changed. It will give us the time needed to lay the foundation for policy change using the expertise of transferring federal employees.

Mr. Speaker, our commitment to work with NWT aboriginal governments will not be lessened by devolution. Not only does the draft agreement-in-principle respect and protect aboriginal interests, it also contains a commitment, with associated funding, to negotiating a government-to-government relationship on post-devolution resource management. These provisions commit GNWT and aboriginal parties to a review of land and resource systems and, where appropriate, recommending changes to these systems and the legislation governing them. This work is expected to be completed within a specified period of time after the effective date of an agreement.

Mr. Speaker, this process will provide the Northwest Territories with a made-in-the-NWT land and resource management and regulatory regime.

More importantly, the draft agreement-in-principle provides the federal funding to achieve this.

Aboriginal parties would receive up to $4 million to support their participation in the transitional stage and a further $3 million annually after an agreement has been reached for ongoing participation in the post-devolution resource management regime.

It also provides many challenges and opportunities. Much of the current federal legislation is old and needs to be modernized. However, if we do not proceed with devolution, the current process will continue to reflect Canada’s national interests first and the Northwest Territories’ second. The latest regulatory review process is a prime example of this. NWT residents and their governments are represented as stakeholders.

We need to bring the management and administration of our resources home to the Northwest Territories where management of these resources can be directly accountable to our residents in accord with their values and needs. The proposed agreement-in-principle provides a possible basis for a deal on devolution that could see real authority and control transferred to the people of the Northwest Territories, to the benefit of all NWT residents.

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Minister’s Statement 77-16(5): Devolution Of Lands And Resources - Environment And Legislation

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Minister’s Statement 78-16(5): Updates To Extended Health Benefits

Ministers’ Statements

Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to provide further details on the process that we are taking to implement the recommendations from the Supplementary Health Benefits Joint Working Group surrounding updates to the existing Extended Health Benefits Program.

The recommendations that were made by the Joint Working Group require varying levels of additional research and planning before implementation. We plan to move forward as quickly as we can while ensuring we have done our homework.

We will immediately begin working with the Department of Human Resources, and later on, other employers in the NWT to ensure third-party insurance coverage is maximized both by current employees and retirees.

We will also initiate contact in November with existing program clients who have been grandfathered additional benefits from 2004, to inform them that this grandfathering is being discontinued effective April 1, 2011. This will allow time for them to work with their health professionals to ensure we have a seamless transition to generic medication.

Health and Social Services will begin work to reform the prescription drug system to provide better access to lower-cost generic drugs for patients, as part of an NWT pharmaceutical

strategy. We will begin work in December with pharmacists, doctors and nurse practitioners regarding this reform and continue to keep them informed. We expect to announce the new program this spring.

Revisions to the Extended Health Benefits Policy to accomplish the Joint Working Group’s recommendations surrounding third-party insurance, extended residency requirements and the implementation plan for parity with NIHB will also be introduced in the spring.

During the same time period we will do a thorough analysis of the cost of enrolling those who are excluded from parts of the Extended Health Benefits Program, also known as “working poor.” It is expected that the savings from the changes we make to the program that I have mentioned will allow for the inclusion of this group of our residents who need the assistance of the government.

We will also plan for a new appeals process for extended health benefits that will be implemented by March 1, 2011. This will allow time for those affected by the change in their status to appeal decisions based on medical necessity.

This will be a busy time for the Department of Health and Social Services as we continue to finalize details and policy. I will continue to work with the Members of the Standing Committee on Social Programs and keep the public informed of our progress.

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Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Minister responsible for Transportation , Mr. Michael McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 79-16(5): Drive Alive

Ministers’ Statements

Michael McLeod

Deh Cho

Mr. Speaker, it’s my pleasure to rise today to give Members an update on the Drive Alive travel safety program.

Drive Alive is a partnership-based initiative that promotes safety on the roads, trails and waterways of the Northwest Territories. By promoting action that will reduce the number of collisions, serious injuries and fatalities in the Northwest Territories, we are helping to deliver on the government’s commitment to building our future as well as this Assembly’s priority to build sustainable, vibrant and safer communities.

Over the next few weeks we will be unveiling initiatives under Drive Alive to promote pedestrian safety, improve seat belt and child restraint usage, and reduce distracted driving. These are all measures we expect will help reduce avoidable collisions, injuries and deaths on our highways.

Mr. Speaker, this morning many of us had the pleasure of witnessing Commissioner George Tuccaro as he was inducted into the Lifesaving

Society of Canada as a vice-patron of the society. I was also pleased to be joined by my colleagues, the Minister of Health and Social Services and the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs , in an announcement committing the Government of the Northwest Territories to make the Lifesaving Society’s Water Smart program available in each of our communities across the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, this initiative is expected to reduce the number of avoidable drowning deaths each year due to boating and recreation.

As winter continues its journey across our land, I am mindful that there is a great deal that we can do to improve travel safety. I will close with some examples:

Equip your vehicles with snow tires. They grip the road better and provide better traction on snow and ice.

Drive at a speed appropriate to road

conditions.

When weather and road conditions are poor, slow down to get to your destination safely.

Prepare for the unexpected by packing

supplies you may need if your vehicle breaks down.

Let someone know when you expect to arrive at your destination, whether you’re driving or sledding.

As this holiday season approaches, Mr.

Speaker, be the life of your party, be a designated driver.

Thank you. Mahsi cho.

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Minister’s Statement 79-16(5): Drive Alive

Ministers’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Minister responsible for Human Resources , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Minister’s Statement 80-16(5): Employee Satisfaction And Engagement Survey

Ministers’ Statements

Yellowknife South

Bob McLeod

Minister of Human Resources

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to announce the results of the 2010 Employee Satisfaction and Engagement Survey. As I have often stated, Mr. Speaker, our employees are this government’s most important asset. Though difficult to quantify, employee engagement and satisfaction is of vital importance to the effectiveness of our public service.

The Employee Satisfaction and Engagement Survey is part of a national initiative started in 2004. At that time, several governments from across Canada agreed to conduct employee surveys every two years using a common set of questions. These shared questions allow us to compare results across jurisdictions and track changes over time. This is the third satisfaction and engagement survey conducted. The full survey results are

available on the Department of Human Resources website.

Mr. Speaker, I am very happy with this year’s results. Approximately 43 percent of Government of the Northwest Territories employees responded to this survey. Those who responded continue to show a high degree of satisfaction and engagement, as more than half agreed or strongly agreed with the majority of statements provided. Nearly 77 percent of respondents were satisfied with their work as Government of the Northwest Territories employees. Over 70 percent feel inspired to give their very best.

I am especially pleased that over 70 percent of those surveyed would recommend the Government of the Northwest Territories as a great place to work. This is a significant improvement over the 2008 survey, where only 53 percent agreed with that statement.

In addition, Mr. Speaker, survey respondents communicated an increased level of satisfaction with the services provided by the Department of Human Resources. Benefits and payroll staff achieved a high level of client satisfaction, over 70 percent on most questions. The majority of Government of the Northwest Territories managers expressed satisfaction with the services provided by our staffing officers and client service personnel. Overall, nearly 78 percent of those surveyed were satisfied or very satisfied with the services provided by Human Resources.

Mr. Speaker, we should all be proud that the Government of the Northwest Territories scored higher than the national averages on 18 of the 19 shared questions.

The survey also highlights some areas of employee concern. Survey respondents communicated the importance of career growth within the Government of the Northwest Territories. Training in particular was highlighted as an important aspect of employee engagement. In addition, those surveyed indicated a desire for an increasingly inclusive workplace where all staff are treated equitably, along with the need to further raise the profile of people with disabilities in the Government of the Northwest Territories. Managers identified recruitment strategies as an area that needs continued attention.

Mr. Speaker, these issues are at the forefront of our human resource planning today. Under 20/20, A Brilliant North, the Northwest Territories Public Service Strategic Plan, new recruitment and marketing strategies are currently in development, including aboriginal recruitment initiatives, a Talent Acquisition Strategy and partnerships between various departments to align marketing plans and the recruitment of specific occupations. Investment in employee development is being addressed through new and innovative training programs, such as the Leadership Development Program, the

Associate Director/Superintendent Program and the development of a Performance Management System and Learning Policy. Diversity initiatives include a Cross-Cultural Awareness Program and the creation of our diversity officer position within the Department of Human Resources.

Over the past several years, human resource management in the public service has gone through a period of considerable change and transition. One of the priorities of the 16th Legislative Assembly has

been effective and efficient government through improved human resource management. The Northwest Territories Public Service Strategic Plan, 20/20, A Brilliant North, has put greater focus on human resources strategies and practices. Mr. Speaker, I believe that the survey results demonstrate that our efforts have been successful and that human resource management in the Northwest Territories public service is on the right track.

Mr. Speaker, I am very proud of the work done by our public service employees. They also deserve our recognition for making the Government of the Northwest Territories such a great organization and such a great place to work. Their hard work and dedication today have laid the foundation for a very bright future for the Northwest Territories public service. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 3, Members’ statements. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

Members’ Statements

Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I am speaking on the community of Tuktoyaktuk and the shoreline erosion problems that we are having in the community. The shoreline has been in the national news, Mr. Speaker. This government has to help the community deal with the problem which is going to take a lot of work and resources over a period of time.

In my lifetime, I have seen a lot of coastline disappear. Areas where there used to be cabins are now under water. A couple of times a year with high west winds the sea floods the roads on one end of town where the swimming pool and the youth centre is. One of the reasons erosion happens so fast in Tuk is that it is built on a very thick layer of permafrost. The warming climate change, rising sea waters and bigger storms are doing a lot of damage. We are lucky we didn’t have one this past summer, otherwise the breach in the shoreline that we are having, it would have breached.

The town’s policy is to build the structure further inland but we have to...these important buildings at

risk including the RCMP station and their six units, our fire hall, the Glad Tidings Church, our former old folk’s home, 31 units in total and the house of one former MLA, Mr. Vince Steen’s unit, the breach is right in front of his house.

Mr. Speaker, we need a long-term plan for the community of Tuk before it is too late. Right now we have to protect the shoreline. But sometime years ago the community placed concrete slabs on the outer peninsula, which helped a bit, but we need to extend the deficiencies about three-quarters of a mile, Mr. Speaker. The rock has to be done this year and I’ll be asking for extraordinary funding at the appropriate time. We started this job years ago, but funding was cut off and the job remains unfinished, Mr. Speaker. If we don’t do this soon, Tuktoyaktuk, its very foundation will wash away.

Fortifying the peninsula would give this government and the community time to come up with a long-term plan.

Mr. Speaker, I will be asking the Minister of Community Affairs questions later today. Thank you.

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Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

Members’ Statements

David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to follow up with a statement I made earlier this session on the continuance of the respite program for the 29 families that currently utilize the service from the Yellowknife Association for Community Living.

Mr. Speaker, first off, the mere suggestion that this government is cutting this critical service is unconscionable. The Minister could not even tell me the other day where the $250,000 was going. Mr. Speaker, the federal funding through THAF would have enabled the program to be funded until 2012. Someone has made the decision to move the money and the Minister just doesn’t know where it went.

Just like the $1.7 million announced by the federal government to fund anti-drug programs. The Minister is quoted in the news story, but the reality, Mr. Speaker, is she has no idea where the money is going and what it will be spent on, just like the respite money.

I’d like to refresh the Minister’s memory when it comes to her support for the respite program. As a Regular Member, February 1, 2006, Hansard, “for many months and number of years I’ve been here, there has been a call for the need or speaking about the need for the respite care program. There is a huge need for this and I think the Members on this side of the floor have been getting lots of calls

from those parents or caregivers who are able to get some relief, which is what the program is meant to do.”

Then, Mr. Speaker, Minister Lee was responding to my colleague Mr. Yakeleya on February 16, 2009, as Minister of Health and Social Services, and I quote from that Hansard. “I was simply pointing out that the pilot program in Yellowknife started three or four years ago and I think that just showed the need and the value of giving families who are spending every day, 24/7, taking care of their children in need.” The program, according to Minister Lee , was so successful that the department decided to expand it to smaller communities. So, Mr. Speaker, I’m left completely and utterly confused by a decision to cut the funding for the respite care program here in Yellowknife.

Mr. Speaker, it defies any logic and the Minister can’t even blame the federal government for it. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Condolences To The Families Of Archibald Lennie Sr.

Members’ Statements

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The

chapter of a strong Metis life was closed last week in Tulita, Mr. Speaker. A Metis man of the land, a gentle man with a loud voice, you knew when he was in the house. Also, Mr. Speaker, there are many honourable elders who have passed away in the Sahtu this year too. Mr. Speaker, with them we lay to rest their experience, their knowledge and their wisdom that make us proud to be Dene or Metis in the Sahtu region and in the North.

Mr. Speaker, in keeping with the passing of the elders, the ones who hold the sacred knowledge to speak with wisdom and live life as life should be lived, mostly they were happy, always smiling, Mr. Speaker. These elders lived the old way of life in these modern times today. They live with strong principles, walk with the old laws in hand and practice traditions that sustain them many times over. They have a spiritual connection to the land, Mr. Speaker. Only now we’re recognizing that special relationship that they had.

Mr. Speaker, I mentioned earlier, closing the

chapter of a strong Metis life last week. Mr. Archie Lennie Sr. was laid to rest in Tulita last week, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Lennie was born on January 17, 1927, to Mr. Dan Lennie and Adele Lennie, on White Fish Lake. He was my mother’s oldest brother. He came from a family of 12. Mr. Archie Lennie Sr. was married to Jean Lennie, nee McLeod, and they had 10 children and numerous nieces, nephews, grandchildren and great-grandchildren and many foster children.

Mr. Speaker, Mr. Lennie worked on many projects in the North. For example, the construction of roads on the highways, maintainer operator -- on especially Highway No. 8 -- he helped build Inuvik, and he was also a long-time DPW worker. Our elders knew the value of hard work, good work, and Mr. Lenny was such a man in the North here.

I offer, in closing, our prayers and thoughts to the family in their sorrow and loss and know that their losses are comforted by the prayers of many people in the Northwest Territories.

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Condolences To The Families Of Archibald Lennie Sr.

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

Members’ Statements

Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

The sawmill operations in Jean Marie River have always been a large part of their lives for about 50 years. Last spring the community was provided support by the federal government through the First Nations Forestry Program to relocate the operations closer to the community. Needless to say, the community was quite excited about this as the current site is not very good due to soft ground conditions. To date they have cleared and prepared the new site and built an access road to it. Regretfully, the funds from the federal program were not enough to complete the move.

I would like to request the support of the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources to review the request from Jean Marie River to assist with determining how much more resources are needed to complete the move.

During my most recent visit, I can say that the community does need some gravel for the new site and finances to complete the move. They are also very interested in implementing their business plan to start operations again. There is a market out there for them and I know with support from our government we can get the sawmill operations running again and provide the much needed jobs and business income for the community of Jean Marie River.

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Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

Members’ Statements

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Bathurst Caribou Herd Management And Preservation Agreement

Members’ Statements

Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The agreement reached between the Yellowknives Dene First Nation and the GNWT for the management and preservation of the Bathurst caribou herd is momentous. We’ve come a long

way since last year when confrontation, emergency, shock, and perhaps even fear were the words most associated with the Bathurst caribou management. Today the words are partnership, commitment and respect between government and aboriginal partners like the YKDFN.

The agreement provides a two-year interim management regime featuring joint harvesting monitoring, shared population monitoring that blends scientific and traditional knowledge and steps to reduce harvest of females. These measures reflect the hard work and commitment of both parties towards the recovery of the herd and its contribution to the health of the people.

There’s still a long way to go. The costs of the crash to all people who rely on caribou are huge. For people with low incomes, access to caribou is the difference between meat and macaroni.

Restrictions affect the cultural fabric woven by the hunt, the passing of traditions between generations, the community bonds and strong connections of harvesting from the land. Outfitters have suffered great losses to businesses established from years of hard work and investment.

I’m on record saying that I don’t support bans and I don’t support hunts. I support caribou. I and others who stopped hunting five years ago realized caribou were in trouble. Self-regulation, however, wasn’t matched by the casual and permissive approach of ENR. ENR seemed to sleepwalk into this catastrophe, not even knowing how many animals were being harvested by all users. Belatedly, bag limits were reduced, cows-only education programs were conceived, harvest was broadly estimated, and finally an emergency closure demonstrated the extreme long-term breakdown in responsible management.

Important lessons are captured in this new agreement. Cooperative management, accompanied by basic and objective knowledge of population size and harvest, is the only approach that will work. Greater attention and the courage to act early, all within the context of accelerating climate change, must be the basis of our management of all animal and plant species.

I salute the government and the Yellowknives Dene for finding the way to go forward. I will look for the application of these lessons in our future approach to resource management.

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Bathurst Caribou Herd Management And Preservation Agreement

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the important aspects of water protection and

protecting our land, air, and resources is the protection of the watersheds, as we hear on the news what’s happening in Fort McMurray and what effects it is having on the Athabasca and Mackenzie rivers systems.

An area of controversy in my riding is dealing with the Peel River watershed and the planning commission report that is presently before public hearings. There were some 60 people at a public meeting in Fort McPherson where they made their voices heard loud and clear that they don’t want 80 percent protection of the Peel River watershed; they want 100 percent protection.

We may ask why. Anyone downstream from major resource developments should be worried, in consideration of what’s happening in Fort McMurray. There are some 8,000 mineral claims in the Peel River watershed that have potential to have long-term effects downstream, especially for those communities on the Peel River, such as Fort McPherson and Aklavik.

I think it’s important that we consider this as a jewel to protect for the national interests of all people in Canada and the world. This region has not only cultural value to the indigenous people but also important significance to protecting a watershed that still flows freely and has an abundance of wildlife and plant species that have been there for thousands of years.

I think it’s important as a government that we take positions when we talk about water bodies that affect jurisdictions downstream, such as the Northwest Territories by way of the Peel River watershed, which flows from the Yukon into the Northwest Territories and through to the Arctic Ocean. I think it’s more important that as a government we make our position known.

At the appropriate time I will be having questions for the Minister of Environment on this important issue to the people I represent.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In early October I attended the Prospects North Conference organized by the NWT Chamber of Commerce here in Yellowknife. It was a great opportunity to meet with and talk to businesses in the North and organizations interested in doing business here in the North. There was a lot of talk during the conference about resource extraction projects in the Northwest Territories.

Big projects are important, as they bring new money into the Northwest Territories, and I

welcome them on the right environmental and social terms. These opportunities continue to be important and must be pursued by this government. However, my focus today is not on the large resource extracted opportunities in the North. Today I want to talk a little bit about small and medium businesses throughout the Northwest Territories.

As we all know, injecting new money into the Northwest Territories is critical for our future, but our ability as Northerners to circulate those dollars throughout our local communities and economies is just as critical. Currently, a lot of money being spent in our communities flows straight south. It doesn’t circulate in our northern communities for very long, or at all. This does not help us support local sustainable communities.

I applaud local businesses, the local chambers of commerce, as well as organizations such as the NWT Chamber of Commerce and the Northern Aboriginal Business Association -- NABA -- which are committed to small and medium businesses owned and operated in the Northwest Territories. These organizations will continue to play an important role in the future of the Northwest Territories, but they can’t do everything. The Government of the Northwest Territories must play a role as well. We must be supportive of our small and medium local businesses in all communities throughout the Northwest Territories.

I know the GNWT is doing much to support these types of businesses. We have SEED, we offer training to small entrepreneurs, we have the ITI supporting the Community Futures Development Corporation, and we have BIP. Unfortunately, small and medium business growth is still moderate and existing businesses continue to struggle. Money continues to flow south. Last year the Canadian Federation of Independent Business – CFIB – reported that the NWT is one of the worst jurisdictions in Canada when it comes to the trappings of red tape. Small and medium businesses are overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of forms and applications that must be completed during start-up and ongoing operations.

Let’s be business friendly in our Territory.

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Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Mr. Abernethy , your time for Member’s statement has expired.

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Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

---Unanimous consent granted

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Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

I have a suggestion for the Minister responsible for Industry, Tourism and Investment . I recognize that red tape is not the creation of the Northwest Territories and that local, community and city governments, as well as the federal government, also contribute to the load.

However, as the territorial government, we have the ability to contribute to solutions to help reduce the overall red-tape load. During question period today I will be asking the Minister to consider working with organizations such as the NWT Chamber of Commerce and NABA to conduct research on red-tape burns on our local businesses, have them help us identify the overall burden and make recommendations which the GNWT can action to begin the process of reducing the burn.

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Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I want to talk about the government and how they can support a very important part of our northern business economy, that being our NWT artists. By way of fact, approximately 18 percent of the NWT population considers themselves an artist in one form or another. That’s almost one in five, which is an amazing population in our Territory. That could be your friends, your neighbours or whoever, but when you look around, one in five is a lot of people who consider themselves in a special area.

These artists are involved in carving, sewing, needlecraft, drawing, painting, creation of jewellery, visual arts, literary arts and publishing, performing arts, photography, film and video production. It’s a big list not to be considered as important.

Sadly, there are not very many of these people that we call artists that can make a full-time living through their skills and talents. Of all these people, they certainly make a serious and considerable contribution to the richness of the North and certainly our economy.

Last summer the Government of Saskatchewan enacted a law called the Arts Professions Act, which protects the intellectual property of artists and supports the development of properly prepared contracts. That law includes a definition of a professional artist and commits the Saskatchewan government to develop a cultural policy framework and action plan.

With Northerners and Southerners alike always raving about northern arts and culture, be it traditional or even modern art as I’ve made note of earlier, it is time that this government trade its lip service by providing a backstop by protecting and enshrining what artists mean in the Northwest Territories by recognizing them, supporting them, and protecting their works.

I believe with legislation similar to the Saskatchewan Arts Professions Act it is something that the GNWT in partnership with our northern

artists should consider. If the artist community thinks it’s important enough and similarly needed in the NWT, a lot could be benefitted here. I believe this is something that the government should take seriously and work towards.

As I’ve often said, business may be known as the engine of our economy, however, arts and culture will definitely always be known as the soul of our economy. Let’s tap in to our one-in-five artists in our Territory who definitely make a considerable difference in our day-to-day lives.

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Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It gives me great pleasure to recognize an elder from the Sahtu and advisor to me, Mr. Andrew John Kenny.

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Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . Item 6, acknowledgements. Item 7, oral questions. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement I spoke about the sawmill operations being relocated in Jean Marie River. I would like to ask, I believe it’s the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources some questions on it. In the springtime they had First Nations funding from the federal government to relocate the sawmill. They’ve only completed half the job. I’d like to ask the Minister, at what stage has their department been assisting the community in relocating the sawmill.

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Environment and Natural Resources has been working with the community. As the Member knows, Jean Marie River has indicated interest in biomass and we are hoping it would be the site of a pilot project that would take advantage of their location in the boreal forest and the work that they’ve done. They’ve been involved on this project, but I am not aware of the specific information that the Member has mentioned about the shortfall of the funding. Thank you.

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

The Minister may not have seen the proposal yet from the community, but what

type of programming would be available from Environment and Natural Resources to assist the sawmill operation like this and relocating them? Thank you.

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Mr. Speaker, Environment and Natural Resources has the lead with the file as it pertains to the development of the Biomass Strategy and implementation across the North. We, as the government, have put $60 million over four years for alternative energy. One significant piece of that is dedicated towards biomass. There is funding available for different projects.

Once again, I’d have to check with the department and maybe talk to the Member and get some more detail, but there is a biomass plan, there is funding in place to assist with biomass projects. The question would have to be to see what flexibility is there. Thank you.

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I’m pleased to see that there is some programming. Hopefully, what they would like to do will fit in the guidelines.

My next logical question is: Have all the programming dollars been taken up for this fiscal year? Is this an opportunity for the community of Jean Marie to relocate the rest of the equipment this coming winter? Thank you.

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We’re breaking trail in a lot of different areas and as we’ve discovered with this whole initiative, we’re moving ahead in many places but there is often some slippage.

Once again, I will commit to the Member that I will look at what the proposal is -- I have yet to see it -- and then I’ll talk to the deputy minister and we’ll see what’s possible. Thank you.

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Question 301-16(5): Relocation Of Sawmill Operation In Jean Marie River

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I spoke earlier about the elders and the passing of them. Mr. Speaker, I want to ask the Minister of Health and Social Services , I know it’s been a wish of the elders prior to them passing, that a lot of them want to stay in their own communities and be laid to rest there. However, sometimes that’s not possible. I want to ask the Minister, in terms of helping with the families with the elders’ wishes, what type of palliative care do they have in the Sahtu region in terms of helping with the elders and their last days in their communities.

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Currently, the palliative care or support for elders or those who are suffering from other medical conditions in small communities are supported by local health staff and home care staff. Thank you.

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, the support that is there, sometimes it is not meeting the needs of these elders and their families. What can be done to increase the support so that families do have time to rest and take a break to take care of their families?

Right now we have six families, possibly, in Deline who are going to need support for the families. What can the Minister do and what can this government do in terms of supporting these families, in terms of the needs for these elders?

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Enhancing home care service and community support is one of the goals of the department. We appreciate that extra resources are needed to expand those services, but for now we deliver those services with the staff and resources we have in the communities. Thank you.

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Certainly we want to enhance the resources and the support in the communities and certainly that is one of our goals. However, I want to ask the Minister: When can we reach that goal? What is it that she needs us to do in terms of going into the communities in the Sahtu, going into Deline and saying we have these dollars, here, we are going to help these families in need?

Right now there are six families that do need palliative care support. Right now we are not meeting them and soon we’re going to have these families make some tough decisions as to sending their families into Inuvik or Yellowknife and that’s where they’re going to die. I want to ask the Minister what is she going to do to help these families in the Sahtu region.

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

That’s the first time that I’ve heard of the six clients that the Member is mentioning. I will be happy to undertake to get those names and get information from the authority as to what work we are providing for them. Thank you.

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Your final supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya .

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Norman Yakeleya

Sahtu

Mr. Speaker, I will certainly be happy to give those six names to the Minister. Also, there are other elders in the Sahtu who have already passed away and should have had support by this department to know that they can die an honourable death in their communities rather than come to Yellowknife and...(inaudible)...other facilities that passed away. This has put a lot of stress on the people in the Sahtu. I want to ask the Minister what is it that she needs to do to put extra support within her department, extra support within the communities to have palliative care support in

the communities right now. Right now, it’s not adequate. What does she need to do?

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

For the immediate future, right now I need to get more information on the situation with the families and to talk with the authority to make sure that the resources needed are supported for those families. In the long-term and mid-term, the MLA knows that this is what we want to do more of. It’s part of our Foundation for Change action plan. We want to be able to change our system so that we strengthen our local and community delivery and find more resources so that we can support our elders, and chronically ill, and persons with disabilities in our local communities. Thank you.

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Question 302-16(5): Palliative Care Services In Sahtu Communities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Kam Lake , Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ve got questions today for the Minister of Health and Social Services getting back to my Member’s statement from earlier today and the one I had previously during this sitting of the House. It gets back to the respite care program and the decision to cut $250,000 out of that program.

Now, the Minister, and I find it really hard to believe, who was so supportive of this program coming into existence… I worked alongside of her here with other Members in this House on getting this program established. It’s been running now for four years, and somebody made a decision to cut the $250,000 from the program. I’d like to begin by asking the Minister whose decision it was to cut the $250,000. Thank you.

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay . The honourable Minister responsible for Health and Social Services , Ms. Lee .

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Member knows he’s asked me lots of questions about the deficit of our department. I’ve indicated many a time that we have a health and social services deficit. It’s in the multi-millions. We are not able to expand any programs. The respite care program was a pilot project and it was time limited. Thank you.

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

The Minister didn’t really answer my questions. She can stand up in the House, but, obviously, I’m talking about some responsibility and accountability. Somebody made the decision to cut the $250,000. I want to know who it was so we can direct our questions to them. If it’s not the Minister, can the Minister please tell me who it was? Thank you.

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

We can speak about responsibility and accountability, and the Member,

on the same discussion, speaks about lack of accountability in balancing the budget, dealing with the deficit, how are we going to deal with it, and in the same breath he brings me all kinds of additional program money that I need to approve.

Mr. Speaker, everybody here knows the Department of Health and Social Services has a multi-million dollar system deficit. I have to work with the budget we have. We are making foundational changes to deal with the system, and the respite program was time specific. It was a three-year pilot project. We have no money to enhance that program.

Mr. Speaker, I understand this is a program that is near and dear to everybody. We are doing everything we can to see how we could assist YACL. But, Mr. Speaker, the Members here have to...they are speaking about accountability and responsibility. We get the money from the same pot. We cannot keep increasing spending when at the same time they criticize for not dealing with the deficit. Thank you.

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Mr. Speaker, the fact of the matter is that funding was supposed to extend until 2012. There was funding. This government had the funding to see the respite program continue to 2012, Mr. Speaker. That is the bottom line. We shouldn’t have been talking about this program and in the next year we should have been coming up with a plan to fund that program. However, Mr. Speaker, the Minister and this government has decided to cut the program, take the $250,000 and put it somewhere else. Mr. Speaker, what I would like to know is where is that $250,000 going. The Minister didn’t know it the other day. Does she know it today, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, the Member is quite incorrect in saying $250,000 is there for 2011-12. The budget for THSSI for 2011-12 has not been decided, so I don’t understand where he is getting that information from. The supplementary appropriation we approved yesterday is for 2010-11, because even though we have the funding from the federal government, as a government we are dealing with it as a supplementary appropriation. We have a budget in the books for respite care, but that is not, and $250,000 that we approved is for 2010-11. We don’t have a budget for 2011-12. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . Final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay .

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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David Ramsay

Kam Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the Minister for the lesson in semantics. Listen. The bottom line is the money was there. It is not there. The Minister didn’t answer my question again, Mr. Speaker. Where is the $250,000? If it is not being spent in respite care, where is the Minister proposing that that $250,000 be spent? Thank you.

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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Sandy Lee

Range Lake

Mr. Speaker, it is not semantics. It is not semantics. I am not changing the wording there. Mr. Speaker, I hear the Member and I tell the Member now, there is no money for respite care for 2011-12. The money we approved yesterday for $250,000 is for 2010-11. Yellowknife Health and Social Services Authority was proactive in approaching YACL to say that there is no money there up to March 2011 and can we work together to come up with a plan.

Mr. Speaker, having said that, I am willing to work with YACL to see how we can transition. They were given six months’ notice to tell them that we do not have money to fund additionally. The money we received from the federal government is to change the way we deliver our programming and to fund our nurses in small communities, nurse practitioners and midwives in Fort Smith, and physicians. Mr. Speaker, we are dealing with limited resources. We need to work together on how we spend our money. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 303-16(5): Respite Care Program Funding Reductions

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Ms. Lee . The honourable Member for Great Slave , Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions today are for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment and follow along with my Member’s statement today. I talked about red tape and the existence of red tape. We know we can’t eliminate red tape and I’m not talking about the red tape as a result of legislative requirements, but there is lots of extra red tape that comes out of policies and procedures. It is not all GNWT, but I think we have an opportunity here to work with NABA and the NWT Chamber of Commerce to identify what the real burden is.

I am asking the Minister today if he can work with NABA and the NWT Chamber of Commerce or possibly some other organization -- maybe not them -- to help us identify what the true burden is. Once we know the burden, we might be able to find some solutions to reduce some of that red tape. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Abernethy . The honourable Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment , Mr. Bob McLeod .

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I certainly agree with the Member that small businesses in the Northwest Territories are the backbone of the Northwest Territories economy. Not only do they provide a value-added, they also provide employment and growth.

Two of the things that we have to guard against in the Northwest Territories are the high cost of doing

business and leakages. One of the best ways to reduce the high cost of doing business is to reduce red tape. The Member quoted CFIB, and CFIB also said that 60 percent of the Members felt that we could reduce red tape by 10 to 15 percent without sacrificing any personal safety requirements. I would be quite pleased to work with all of the organizations that you mentioned. I do have a ministerial advisory panel in which NABA and the Chamber of Commerce are members of.

Some of the things that we have done as a government, for example, under the SEED program, our application form we reviewed and reduced it to one page. We also have BizPaL, which will help us identify the permitting and licensing requirements. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, it is awfully nice when we are in agreement so easily. The Minister mentioned BizPaL. I think BizPaL is a great program, but I understand that the City of Yellowknife isn’t partnering with us on that. Right now, the City of Yellowknife has a lot of requirements for permits and whatnot. Has there been any work done with the City of Yellowknife to see if we can get them on side with us to help the businesses overall and reduce the amount of red tape? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, as part of our Business Incentive Policy review, we identified that there are currently 1,350 businesses that are BIP under the Business Incentive Policy, and 75 percent of those businesses are in Yellowknife and the five larger regional centres. Currently, we have BizPaL in Hay River and Fort Smith. We are working with the City of Yellowknife and the City of Yellowknife is in the process of developing BizPaL as well. I think that they will bring us a long ways forward if we can concentrate on the other regional centres. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Mr. Speaker, I am really happy to hear that. I would like to go back to the Minister’s first response, where he was talking about reducing some of the red tape. I appreciate everything he was saying, but we are in that reality today. The red tape exists today and every day that it continues to exist, businesses continue to struggle. Frankly, I want small and medium-sized businesses to succeed in Yellowknife. I want them in small communities. I want them to offer employment in small communities. Every second counts. When can we expect to see some progress on this?

When can the Minister commit to having his department maybe go out with an RFP or something to help have somebody help us identify the burden so we can eliminate the burden? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Mr. Speaker, I think we are fortunate. We also have the Canadian Federation of Independent Business that does regular surveys of all the businesses in the Northwest Territories. We

can undertake to work on this so that we can have something by the end of this 16th Legislative

Assembly. Also, I think it is very important for us to also look at reducing leakages. We have a number of government programs that go a long ways to doing so, so we will be focusing on those as well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Final supplementary, Mr. Abernethy .

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Glen Abernethy

Great Slave

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is one thing I haven’t touched on but it is related. Right now, that federal legislation, we have federal permits. We have federal forms that people have to fill out. We have territorial, we have city, we have everything. In looking at some of the forms, I often see what appears to be some level of duplication. In the review, if I can get the Minister to commit that they will look at where all the requirements for business are coming from and hopefully by working with our partners, the federal government communities and other organizations, we can identify some of that overlap.

Can I get the Minister to commit that they will try to identify that overlap and work with those partners to eliminate it as well? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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Bob McLeod

Yellowknife South

Thank you. We do recognize that red tape exists at all levels of government. It exists at the federal, territorial and local level, and through our different partnerships we will work to reduce it at all three levels. We’ll have to rely on businesses to tell us what some of the more significant red tape is at the federal level, but certainly we can work within the Government of the Northwest Territories, and also with the municipal governments to find ways to reduce this red tape. Thank you.

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Question 304-16(5): Support For Small And Medium-Sized Businesses

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Nunakput , Mr. Jacobson .

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today my Member’s statement was on shoreline erosion in the community of Tuktoyaktuk. Over the past summer when I was home I was picked up by my uncle, John Steen, and then we went down and I looked at the shoreline embankment. It’s probably about 75 feet total, but the total from top of the soil to the lake, to the Pokiak Lake, is almost 50 feet. So one bad west wind, Mr. Speaker, where the rock ends, it’s going to open up that whole backend of the community where we have 31 units, including the RCMP, and all the units are going to be opened up to the ocean.

So, Mr. Speaker, where do we start with the Minister on getting extraordinary funding for the community of Tuk and making sure they’re not going to come at me and say use your gas tax

money? I want extraordinary funding for the community to see where we start in getting this project for this upcoming season. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson . The honourable Minister responsible for Municipal and Community Affairs , Mr. Robert McLeod .

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I won’t tell him to use their gas tax money, but I will say you can use your capital infrastructure money that we provide to the community each year and they identify projects as a priority. I do know for a fact that in the latest capital plan from the community, they have identified some funds to put towards shoreline erosion. There’s no scope of work that’s been determined yet, nor have we had any requests for technical assistance, which we would be more than happy to provide to them. Thank you.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

That was on my list, I just didn’t read it on capital infrastructure. It’s not enough, we don’t get enough. But with that being said, I’m asking the Minister now for his assistance in the Department of MACA in Inuvik to go into the community and to meet with the mayor and myself sooner rather than later, because of the rock hauling that’s going to be done. Hopefully it could be in this year coming. So what are the chances of that? Thank you.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

Thank you. I could commit to the Member that if it’s the request of the community, we’d be happy to go in there and provide them some technical assistance. I did say before that they have identified some funds in their capital plan to go towards the shoreline erosion, but we’d be more than happy to meet with the Member and the leadership in the community to see what we can do to assist them. Thank you.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you. Today, from the department’s work from the federal agency of Geological Survey of Canada, how long does the Minister think that it will take to claim that area, to think is the centre of town? Thank you.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

I’m not quite sure how to respond to that, other than saying I would have to follow up and see what some of the recommendations were, but I will follow up and see what kind of information I can gather. Again, I’ll commit to the Member that we will work with the community to come up with some kind of a plan to deal with the shoreline erosion. Thank you.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Your final supplementary, Mr. Jacobson .

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Jackie Jacobson

Nunakput

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to thank the Minister for that and just remind the Minister that I want extraordinary funding and I don’t want it taken out of the gas tax, I don’t want it taken out of the capital infrastructure, because the

community has a big task in itself to keep all the buildings going. But I look forward to his department making sure it gets a hold of the community and myself to do this project. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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Robert C. McLeod

Inuvik Twin Lakes

We do provide, through the capital infrastructure acquisition or plan, we provide all the money to the communities and this has allowed a lot of communities to deal with some of their infrastructure deficits and some of the infrastructure needs a lot sooner than they would have been able to had it been still part of the corporate plan, and this is just another example of that.

You know, as a department, I mean, if we’re aware or we know of any other possible sources of funding out there that could assist the community, then I will commit to the Member that we usually follow any pots of money that we may be able to access on behalf for supporting the community. So we’ll continue to do that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 305-16(5): Tuktoyaktuk Shoreline Erosion

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 306-16(5): Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In my Member’s statement today I talked about ways we can support the artists’ community in our North, and as I said, that represents one in five of our population, or I should say almost one in five of our population. Mr. Speaker, it is a considerable amount of people and I would say that they certainly deserve a certain amount of respect certainly by this government.

Saskatchewan has adopted what’s called the Arts Professions Act and what that basically does is it recognizes, supports, enshrines and protects the work that these artists do to make sure that they’re treated fairly and certainly treated properly.

Mr. Speaker, my question would be to the Minister of ECE -- Education, Culture and Employment -- and I’m hoping that he would task his officials to investigate the Arts Professions Act as put into statute by Saskatchewan government, to see if we can enshrine and protect our northern artists to make sure they’re getting fair value for work here in the North. Thank you.

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Question 306-16(5): Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins . The honourable Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 306-16(5): Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. This is an area that we can definitely explore in other provinces, the Arts Professions Act that they may have in other provinces. But we do provide, as Members would know, increasing funding to support performers as well, and also artists. The

Member talked about recognizing and supporting them. We currently do that already and we’ve increased our funding, but this is legislation that we can definitely look at in other jurisdictions as well. Mahsi.

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Question 306-16(5): Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

I want to recognize the fact that the Minister has worked hard to make sure that artists do receive both their due and financial support from this government and certainly by his department. This Arts Professions Act, which I’ll table later today, is a very small act. It basically defines what artists are, and how they’re recognized and certainly how they can be supported by the government. Again, it’s by the Government of Saskatchewan protecting Saskatchewan artists.

Does the Minister see any chance that once he has a copy of this, does he foresee any chance that perhaps he can task his department officials to investigate it right away and see if they can respond with some type of discussion paper into the new year, if that’s considered possible or reasonable? Thank you.

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Question 306-16(5): Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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Jackson Lafferty

Monfwi

Mahsi. I did commit to the Member that we will explore and review the Saskatchewan legislation to see if it has the context and also relevance from a Northwest Territories perspective. So I did commit already and we will look into this. Mahsi.

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Question 306-16(5): Legislative Framework To Support Northern Artists

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty . The honourable Member for Weledeh , Mr. Bromley .

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are to the Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources in follow up to my Member’s statement earlier today.

Mr. Speaker, the agreement with the Yellowknives Dene First Nation around the management of the Bathurst caribou herd is a two-year plan of activities. I’m wondering if the Minister can tell me what resources, both the dollars, direct dollar support and personnel support, staffing support, are being provided to the Yellowknives Dene First Nation to carry out their end of the bargain and whether this is going to be assessed partway through to see if it’s adequate. Thank you.

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Bromley . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is a joint committee that’s been formed and we are going to assist them with funding to staff a coordinator to work with us as we do the increased monitoring and supervision of implementation of the plan. The Member is correct

that there will be ongoing assessment to see how things are going and if resources are an issue.

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I’m glad to hear there’s a coordinator being supplied. I wasn’t sure I heard a figure on the dollars that are being supplied. One of the major issues is the overlap with the Tlicho Agreement. I’m wondering how this has been handled and how it’s being handled in a final sense until such time as the Yellowknives Dene complete their land claim agreement, given that the Tlicho have already finished theirs.

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The intent is to set up a broad, multi-stakeholder management plan for the caribou in the North Slave region that will include, of course, the aboriginal governments and the territorial government -- the Tlicho, Akaitcho, the Northwest Territories Metis Nation -- and it’s going to be a complex undertaking, given the fact that we have to look at the Ahiak, the Beverly, the Bathurst, the Bluenose-East, and significant overlap areas as well into Nunavut and some with the Beverly down into Saskatchewan.

The challenge over the next two years is to get a process in place that will allow us to bring all those players to the table to come up with the steps necessary to manage and enforce the right actions on all those various herds.

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

I appreciate the response from the Minister. I have no doubt that he’s fully committed to making sure that does progress strongly during the two years of this interim agreement. The Yellowknives Dene First Nation agreement contains measures for a limited harvest to meet subsistence needs. One aspect of this is, of course, the understanding of what sort of adequacy this meets in terms of their nutritional and subsistence requirements and so on. I’m wondering if the Minister could tell me what we must see in terms of herd recovery before the harvest guidelines will be opened up a bit to meet some of those requirements.

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

That kind of technical, herd-specific decision is going to be based on the work of the assessment that’s going to be based on the recommendations from the boards, both of the Wekeezhii and the joint board we’ve set up with the Yellowknives. We’ll all be looking to their advice.

I don’t have an immediate, final definition in my mind. We do know that some of the indications have been somewhat comforting. From what the information is, there’s been no further decline of the Bathurst herd. It seems to have flattened out. The same with our basic work on the Ahiak. There’s even been a bit of modest growth in the Bluenose-East. Each one of those herds is going to have to be looked at individually.

I would point to what was agreed to with the Yukon and the management of the Porcupine caribou herd

there, that they came up with all the appropriate triggers based on herd numbers that would determine what kind of action is going to be available to be considered if those numbers are hit. I would suggest that a similar type of approach, in my mind, makes good sense here as well.

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final supplementary, Mr. Bromley .

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Bob Bromley

Weledeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Caribou have been essential to the nutritional, cultural and spiritual well-being of the Yellowknives Dene since time immemorial, as I’ve recognized earlier. I recognize that the Minister is providing for some alternatives in the meantime, such as opening the season on bison and assisting Dene to hunt other herds. However, caribou are also extremely important to many non-Dene in similar ways. What measures are being put in place to provide them with increased access to alternate meat sources such as bison and other caribou herds as their numbers improve?

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

The one area is going to be the possible access to bison tags. There is no harvest anywhere in the Northwest Territories at present for any harvesting except the aboriginal harvest. So there is no capacity to open up access to caribou tags anywhere at this point, given the pressures the herds are under. We’re looking at other types of animals besides bison. There is moose, of course, and depending where you live up north, there’s other things like muskox, as well, that could be considered.

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Question 307-16(5): Bathurst Caribou Herd Management Preservation And Agreement

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Krutko .

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Environment regarding my Member’s statement on the protection of the Peel River watershed and the Peel River land use planning commission’s report, which has now gone to public review. They have had formal meetings in Fort McPherson and at that point there were some 60 people who turned out. The majority of the people there asked for 100 percent protection. Right now the commission is recommending 80 percent. I’d like to ask the Minister of Environment what is the position of the Northwest Territories government regarding the Peel River planning commission’s report.

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Krutko . The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources , Mr. Miltenberger .

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Keeping in mind that the vast majority

of the Peel River watershed is in the Yukon and it is subject to, in addition to this process, a transboundary agreement with the Yukon, weak though it may be, the Government of the Northwest Territories is supportive of the aspirations of the people on the Peel to protect as much of the watershed as possible for traditional lifestyles.

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Also in my Member’s statement I made reference to the implications and major effects of resource development on the headwaters, which will have a direct affect on the communities in the Northwest Territories, particularly Fort McPherson and Aklavik all the way to the Arctic Ocean. I’d like to ask the Minister with regard to our Water Strategy and looking at the implications we’re seeing at Fort McMurray and the downstream affect that is having, does the government have a position regarding the Water Strategy and the implication of these developments downstream on the waterways?

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

I’ve had a relatively recent communication with the Minister from the Yukon and I’ve indicated to him in that conversation that we have, and have had, concerns about the Peel River watershed. There’s lots of activity there. We also have concerns about the efficacy and efficiency of our transboundary agreement that was one of the only ones that has been signed under the existing Mackenzie River Basin Transboundary Agreement and that we are drafting a communication to open discussions on that whole issue.

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

I’d like to ask the Minister if there has been any formal written correspondence from the Government of the Northwest Territories regarding its support of the Peel River planning commission report regarding the protection of the watershed for the people in the Northwest Territories.

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

We are engaged in water issues across the Northwest Territories. As it pertains to the Peel, we are paying very close attention and we are involved. If my memory serves me correctly, it is the one region that is yet to have their water conference. We’ve opened up our discussions with the Yukon and we’re trying to be as supportive as possible of the work that’s being done in the Peel River watershed land use plan.

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger . Final supplementary, Mr. Krutko .

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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David Krutko

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to ask the Minister responsible for the environment if he could formally write a letter to the planning commission regarding the Government of the Northwest Territories’ position on where we stand with regard to the planning commission report so that the people of the Northwest Territories from Fort McPherson and Aklavik, the people that I

represent, will get an understanding where this government stands on this important issue.

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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Michael Miltenberger

Thebacha

I will talk with the officials in the department, starting with the deputy minister, to see if we can follow up on that request.

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Question 308-16(5): Protection Of The Peel River Watershed

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Menicoche .

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Question 309-16(5): Inmate Transition Facilities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Recently I was contacted by a constituent who has a son incarcerated in our jails. I’d like to ask the Minister of Justice a question. I guess one of the changes that have been brought to my attention is that apparently there are no halfway houses here in Yellowknife for the inmates. We’re actually going to be sending inmates down to Edmonton. Of course, the concern is that it’s going to be that much more costly for the parents, friends and family to visit inmates. I’d like to know more about what this change is as well.

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Question 309-16(5): Inmate Transition Facilities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . The honourable Minister responsible for Justice , Mr. Lafferty .

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Question 309-16(5): Inmate Transition Facilities

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Monfwi

Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I think we need to gather more information on this particular case. Who are we referring to? The condition of the case if it’s going to be transferred to Edmonton, there are always certain cases why they’re transferred to Edmonton. I need to gather more information on this subject.

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Question 309-16(5): Inmate Transition Facilities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I guess just in general, is there a change in our policy or directive at the jail that we have to send inmates out to a halfway house in Edmonton or outside our jurisdiction?

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Question 309-16(5): Inmate Transition Facilities

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Jackson Lafferty

Minister of Justice

There have been, within the policy, changes to certain programs. I need to dig further into this particular area. The Member is referring to individuals who are being sent to a halfway house. I need to work with my colleague, as well, at the Health and Social Services department and find out what the status is, which file he is referring to.

Like I said, with certain inmates, they are transferred to certain areas, depending on their circumstances and their positions. I need to gather more information on this particular file.

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Question 309-16(5): Inmate Transition Facilities

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Kevin A. Menicoche

Nahendeh

I’d be pleased to share the details with the Minister and follow up on this issue. I’m not sure, but I think the Minister took the question as notice as well.

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Question 309-16(5): Inmate Transition Facilities

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The Speaker

Paul Delorey

Thank you, Mr. Menicoche . I didn’t hear a question there. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Hawkins .

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Question 310-16(5): Proposed Revisions To Occupational Health And Safety Regulations

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Robert Hawkins

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recently asked some questions regarding the WSCC and my concerns regarding the occupational health and safety regs that are being reviewed and certainly ensuring that they will be fairly reviewed by the public, such as businesses. The Minister did respond in a good way and certainly said that he would make sure that did happen. After that, I did approach the Minister with some concerns regarding this situation with the Safety Advisory Committee. Specifically, where do they get their mandate to do this review that’s approximately 400 pages of regulations?

In discussing this matter with a number of people in the community, be it with the Governance Council and in some light with the Minister, it sounded like no one knew who gave them that mandate. Can the Minister comment specific to that issue in the House today, which is: Who gave the Safety Advisory Committee the mandate to go out and review those