Debates of Feb. 24th, 1995

This is page numbers 281 - 307 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 7th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.

The word of the day was development .

Topics

Members Present

Item 1: Prayer

Assent To Bills

School Material Written In Different Dialects

Policies Governing Social Assistance

Coastlines Of Canada

Second Annual Beer Tasting Festival

Exploration For Oil In Fort Liard Region

Using "drunkenness" As A Defence In Court

Halting The Transportation Of Wood Bison South To Auction

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Export Of NWT Wildlife To United States

Changes In WCB Coverage For Hunters And Trappers

H&ss Budget Supplement Document

Issuance Of Social Assistance Cheques

Assessments Of Fas/fae

Operation Of Hanging Ice Bison Ranch

Status Of Negotiations Re Mining Accord

Current Initiatives To Increase Revenues From Gaming

Status Of Community Action Fund

Authorization For 90-day Time Frame Re Fire Suppression Negotiations

Birthing Centre For Taloyoak

Status Of Settlement Operating And Assistance Policies

Reduction Of Gas Tax For Off-road Users

Licensing Of Cb Radios

Written Question 10-12(7): Dene Metis Holdings Request To Extend Negotiations

Item 10: Replies To Budget Address

Item 14: Tabling Of Documents

Bill 17:

An Act To Amend The Nursing Profession Act

Bill 16:

An Act To Amend The Retirement Plan Beneficiaries Act

Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters

Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1995-96Committee Report 4-12(7): Report On The Review Of The 1995-96 Main Estimates

To Defer Consideration Of Department Of Health And Social Services

Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole

Item 23: Orders Of The Day

Members Present

Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Hon. Samuel Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Mrs. Marie-Jewell , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Hon. Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe

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---Prayer

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Item 1: Prayer

Item 1: Prayer

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Good morning. I have been informed that Her Honour, the Commissioner of the Northwest Territories, is prepared to assent to bills. Mr. Clerk, would you ascertain if the Commissioner is prepared to enter the Chamber and assent to bills?

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Assent To Bills

Assent To Bills

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Commissioner Maksagak

Please be seated. As Commissioner of the Northwest Territories, it gives me pleasure to assent to the following bills: Bill 2,

An Act to Amend the Apprenticeship and Trade Certification Act ; Bill 3,

An Act to Amend the Judicature Act ; Bill 4,

An Act to Amend the Limitation of Actions Act ; Bill 5,

An Act to Amend the Maintenance Act ; Bill 6,

An Act to Amend the Petroleum Products Tax Act ; Bill 7,

An Act to Amend the Co-operative Associations Act ; Bill 8,

An Act to Amend the Dental Mechanics Act ; Bill 9,

An Act to Amend the Legal Profession Act ; Bill 10,

An Act to Amend the Liquor Act ; Bill 11,

An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act ; Bill 12,

An Act to Amend the Judicature Act, No. 2 ; and, Bill 14, Miscellaneous Statutes Amending Act, 1994. Thank you.

---Applause

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Assent To Bills

Assent To Bills

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ningark .

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School Material Written In Different Dialects

Item 3: Members' Statements

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, when Nunavut Caucus had their meeting in Gjoa Haven, there was a resident of Gjoa Haven who made a presentation to the committee regarding the use of the Inuktitut language instruction in the schools. We are happy to have aboriginal languages taught in the schools; however, there was one concern raised by the presenter that the materials being used in the schools are written in a different dialect and not the dialect used in Pelly Bay. There are dialect differences and the materials that are being used right now are currently from another area, Mr. Speaker.

I think the material should be made available in different dialects, so that the appropriate dialect can be taught in the school. I will be asking an oral question to the Minister regarding this item. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Pudlat .

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Policies Governing Social Assistance

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Under Members' statements, I would like to say that in the north, we have people receiving social assistance from Social Services. Recipients are able to cash their cheques. People would like to know who made the cheques cashable. Mr. Speaker, I will be asking questions regarding where the authority to cash welfare cheques came from, if there are policies regarding social assistance and how it should be dealt with. I will be asking a question of the Minister in this matter.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 281

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Pudlat . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Whitford .

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Coastlines Of Canada

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, there are a few times that things really irritate northerners, to the point where they write or phone to complain. Sometimes the complaints are listened to and positive changes are made and other times not. One of the things that has irritated people quite a lot in the last little while is the phrase continually used by our national broadcaster, the CBC, that Canada is from coast to coast. Anyone looking at a map can tell at a glance that Canada has three oceans. It is bordered on the east by the Atlantic, the Pacific on the west and the Arctic Ocean on the north.

Our national radio, the CBC, continues to use this phrase. They even have programs called "Coast to Coast." Cross Country Checkup on Sundays continuously uses the phrase that they are broadcasting from coast to coast. I was in Cambridge Bay not too long ago, on the northern coast, and I listened to CBC there and there was no reference made to it at that time. Even more irritating, Mr. Speaker, is our national broadcaster continuously advertises on the news and their current affairs programs, "Just call us and let us know your concerns," and they give a 1-800 number.

Oft-times constituents of mine have tried to call these numbers and they are told that number doesn't operate here in the Northwest Territories. Well, excuse me, Mr. Speaker, but the last time I checked the map, the Northwest Territories was still in Canada.

I wrote a letter to the CBC asking that this be corrected and, hopefully, something will come out of it. Northerners do like to participate in these programs and we certainly want to have some reference made to the fact that Canada is from coast to coast to coast. Thank you.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Whitford . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Lewis .

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Second Annual Beer Tasting Festival

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to mention today a small business which seems to have done very well over the past several years. A Mr. and Mrs. Koshynsky run a little business called E-Zee-Brew and many, many people go there to buy all kinds of supplies so they can make their own product at home. It has become a bit of a tradition now in the north that more and more people are beginning to make these things which normally, if they go to the local liquor store, cost them a lot of money.

I know that some proprietors are getting very concerned because this year, Mr. Speaker, the sales of alcohol in the Northwest Territories have gone down significantly. That's a good thing because when you brew gentle stuff at home; it is mild and often good for your system. I would like to point out, Mr. Speaker, that nearly all the stuff that we bring in from the south, especially if it's not distilled, is water. Northern people know that we have lots of water.

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Item 3: Members' Statements

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Second Annual Beer Tasting Festival

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Brian Lewis

Yellowknife Centre

Well, maybe not the Power Corporation, but we do have enough. A few gallons is not going to make a difference to the cost of power in the territories, Mr. Speaker. This is a gentle kind of industry done at home which most people seem to be enjoying and which seems to have resulted in quite a reduction in the sale of the more damaging kinds of brews that come in from the south and which possibly cause people damage. At least that's the evidence that I have.

In the next few weeks, there will be the second annual beer tasting festival in Yellowknife and those people who have been brewing and have perfected their art over the last 30 years will be competing with each other to see which individual has created the most palatable brew. So, Mr. Speaker, I wanted Members to know that this is a small industry which is flourishing quite well and is, in my opinion, having a good effect on those people who are very moderate in their needs to consume any kind of alcohol. This is, in fact, a very gentle sport, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Second Annual Beer Tasting Festival

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Lewis . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Antoine .

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Exploration For Oil In Fort Liard Region

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. (Translation) I am going to speak in my own language. What I wanted to mention today is apparently in one of the communities in my constituency, Fort Liard, they are going to be starting to drill for oil where Fort Liard sits, right at the edge of the BC border. It is good country for oil.

Last December, the federal Minister Ron Irwin and Harry Deneron, the chief from Fort Liard, met and discussed the possibility of drilling for oil in Fort Liard. (Translation ends)

The opening of land in the Fort Liard region occurred when the federal government approved a partial lifting of the ban on exploration in the north. The ban was there to give aboriginal people time to settle their land claim negotiations.

The winning bids, Mr. Speaker, included a large piece of land about 150,000 hectares, which is about 575 square miles, that has opened up in the immediate area of Fort Liard. Mr. Speaker, the following companies were successful in their bids in this area: Ranger Oil Limited, AMOCO Canada Petroleum Company Limited, Chevron Canada Resources Limited, Ocelot Energy Limited, Shell Canada Limited, and Paramount Resources, all of Calgary. Mr. Speaker, approximately $22.7 million has been committed by these six companies in assessing the region's potential, and this is for the next four years.

Mr. Speaker, the federal government awarded the exploration licence early this month, but it was effective from late December of last year. Mr. Speaker, this is what Mr. Irwin, the Minister of Indian Affairs, had to say about the arrangement: "By working in partnership with the federal government and the Fort Liard band council, we have successfully reopened this highly prospective area.

The results will be much-needed employment and business opportunities for the Fort Liard residents." This statement was also endorsed by the chief, Henry Deneron, who said: "I am pleased that the federal government worked with my community to ensure that exploration activities will be managed in a way that meets our needs. These investments will not only create opportunities for the people of Fort Liard, but will benefit our region as a whole."

Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to recognize the efforts of Fort Liard and their cooperation with the federal government in taking the initiative for establishing economic opportunities for the community and the region. Mr. Speaker, using Fort Liard as an example, it is imperative that we ensure that any economic activity generated by the presence of southern companies must benefit the community and the region first. Mr. Speaker, if the necessary resources are available here, then there is no excuse to preclude employment and business opportunities for local residents and businesses in the community as well as in the region. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

---Applause

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Exploration For Oil In Fort Liard Region

Item 3: Members' Statements

Page 282

The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Antoine . Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Ballantyne .

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Using "drunkenness" As A Defence In Court

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Supreme Court of Canada's decision legitimizing drunkenness as a defence has inevitably come to slap us here in the Northwest Territories. When Minister Allan Rock was here in the fall, I remember asking him, in a Caucus meeting, what the implications would be for the Northwest Territories. He said two things, at that time. He said that the Supreme Court decision was so precisely worded that it would be only

used in the rarest case. He also said that he would look at bringing in legislation to deal with the whole issue.

Now it seems that the legal experts who advise them were wrong again. It seems to be used more and more frequently. Here in the Northwest Territories where alcohol and drug abuse are major social problems, the implications of this Supreme Court decision are immense. Minister Rock, this week, is introducing a bill -- today, I think, in the House -- where he is going to address the problem.. Time will only tell, during the next two or three days, if the bill goes far enough. Already some of the preliminary responses of women's group are that it hasn't gone far enough.

But for here in the territories, the reality has hit home. Violent drunks now have the opportunity to justify their actions in the Northwest Territories. This is unacceptable to all of us. In light of the fact that we now have our first case here in the territories, I think that it is imperative that our Justice Minister re-emphasize our government's opposition to the Supreme Court decision and that our Justice Minister does everything in his power to ensure that Mr. Rock's legislation is an adequate response to the decision.

If, in the opinion of the government and this Legislative Assembly, the Justice Minister 's legislation is not an adequate response, then I, along with others, will be asking for our Justice Minister to suggest amendments to that legislation. Thank you very much.

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Using "drunkenness" As A Defence In Court

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mr. Ballantyne . Item 3, Members' statements. Mrs. Marie-Jewell .

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Halting The Transportation Of Wood Bison South To Auction

Item 3: Members' Statements

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to take the opportunity to thank the Minister of Renewable Resources for halting the exportation of the live wood bison from the Hanging Ice Bison Ranch near Fort Smith, to be auctioned down south.

Mr. Speaker, the reason that I requested this to be halted was because concerns were expressed to me by the native organizations in Fort Smith. Both the Metis Nation and the band had brought these issues to my attention. It has further been brought to my attention the sustainable development committee of the town could not come to a decision on whether or not to support this particular move.

We all know that it is critical to listen to the user groups of our renewable resources. The Department of Renewable Resources has made it a practice to consult with the band and the Metis with regard to addressing trappers' cabins, traplines, trappers' funding allocation, and also if policy changes are required for addressing fire management. So, Mr. Speaker, the band and Metis felt it was critical to consult with them regarding the exportation of wood bison.

They fully support the exportation of bison meat but, until they are consulted, they have a sincere difficulty with supporting the current process to export these live wood bison. Mr. Speaker, the concern of such a unique genetic animal -- as we all know, wood bison is bigger than the prairie bison -- and also the fear of what may happen -- which happened to the char industry

where aquaculture has taken place -- and the future could have a negative impact on what could happen to the ranch.

Mr. Speaker, these types of concerns expressed are legitimate and I am sure the community will welcome the Department of Renewable Resources for the consultation process which will take place next week.

The community groups also want to thank the department for their caretaking role in the bison ranch, and would like to let the Minister know that they have appreciated the efforts the department has been making to make this ranch viable. Thank you.

---Applause

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Halting The Transportation Of Wood Bison South To Auction

Item 3: Members' Statements

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you, Mrs. Marie-Jewell . Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Nerysoo .

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Return To Question 106-12(7): Tabling Of Special Needs School Survey

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Dent on February 20, 1995 with regard to tabling a special needs school survey.

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Return To Question 106-12(7): Tabling Of Special Needs School Survey

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Nerysoo .

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Return To Question 52-12(7): Status Of Vacancies On Liquor Board

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This is a question asked by Mr. Whitford on February 15, 1995 with regard to the status of vacancies on the Liquor Board.

A maximum of nine people can be appointed to the Liquor Board. The board is currently comprised of eight members. Of these members, five are men and three are women. I am hoping to appoint another member. Just for additional information, Mr. Speaker, Theresa Crane and Don Strang of Yellowknife have been appointed; Mary Rose Casaway of Lutsel K'e; and, Red Pedersen of Kitikmeot, so that there is a representative from generally every region in the Northwest Territories.

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Return To Question 52-12(7): Status Of Vacancies On Liquor Board

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery.

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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

I would like to recognize today, sitting at the Clerk's table, Ms. Karen Shaner, who is our newly-appointed Deputy Law Clerk.

---Applause

Welcome, Ms. Shaner.

Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Ningark .

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Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the honourable Minister of Education, Culture and Employment . Mr. Speaker, subsequent to my Member's statement that I made earlier in my language, I would like to ask the Minister...While Nunavut Caucus was meeting in Gjoa Haven a lady made a presentation to the Caucus -- incidently, the lady has been working as an Inuktitut teacher for many years -- and one of her concerns that she brought to our attention was the teaching materials in Inuktitut used across the board in the eastern Arctic.

Mr. Speaker, the teaching material in Inuktitut is written in one dialect, although dialects differ from region to region. According to the lady who made the presentation, the teaching staff from Netsilik area literally have to translate the material into the appropriate dialect. My question to the honourable Minister is could the Minister communicate and seek advice from the Kitikmeot Divisional Board of Education to see what can be done to address the need in the Natilikmiot area. Thank you.

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Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Education, Culture and Employment , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Return To Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do want to advise the honourable Member that it's our intention to be as supportive to the aboriginal languages as possible, no matter what dialect they are. I want to say to the honourable Member that yes, I will communicate with the Kitikmeot divisional board on the matter of curriculum issues and ensure that they respond positively to the concern the honourable Member has raised. Thank you.

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Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Supplementary, Mr. Ningark .

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Supplementary To Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Item 6: Oral Questions

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to the same Minister. When will the honourable Minister communicate with the Kitikmeot board of education? Thank you.

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Supplementary To Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Item 6: Oral Questions

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Mr. Nerysoo .

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Further Return To Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Question 155-12(7): Teaching Materials Used In Eastern Arctic Schools

Item 6: Oral Questions

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'll communicate as soon as possible. I think the honourable Member has raised an important issue, and I need to do a bit of research, but I'll do it as soon as I can, depending on the information that I receive. In fact, I will send a copy of any communication that I have with the Kitikmeot board of education to the honourable Member.

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Supplementary to the same Minister. The indication that I'm getting from the honourable Minister is the honourable Minister will be communicating with the Kitikmeot divisional board within a week from today. Thank you.

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you. If the honourable Member is making that suggestion, I'll certainly consider it.

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Question 156-12(7): Export Of NWT Wildlife To United States

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have a question I would like to direct to the Minister of Renewable Resources . In the past several weeks, we've been hearing a lot on the news and seeing on television the provinces of Alberta and British Columbia transporting live wolves and live sheep to the United States for restocking their herds of sheep and packs of wolves in Yellowstone, I think it is, and other parts of the United States. The program has received both praise and condemnation from the public in both Alberta and British Columbia.

In some places, they have asked it be stopped, and in other places, they are encouraging it. It has some possibilities for both those provinces to develop a relationship with the United States for restocking areas where there is depletion. I would like to ask the Minister of Renewable Resources whether or not the Americans have ever approached the Northwest Territories for permission to export live animals or birds from the Northwest Territories.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Arngna'naaq .

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that in the early part of this calendar year there were some officials from the United States who came in and looked at the administrative process we have and the way in which we

manage polar bears in the Northwest Territories. This is in accordance with the work that they have been doing on the importation of polar bears. Whether they have come to a final decision as to whether the work that they are doing will be enough to support the idea of transporting animals to the United States from Canada, at this point, I don't know. But I do know that they wanted to be sure when they export polar bears from Canada to the United States, that our management of the polar bears was sufficient to meet the needs of the people here in the Northwest Territories as well as to meet some other requests that are being made by residents of the United States. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Tony Whitford

Yellowknife South

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Minister, were the consultations limited to just the polar bear? Have there been any overtures towards the importation of wolves or muskoxen?

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To my knowledge, it has been limited to polar bears. Because of the vast area of land that the polar bears cover, I believe that the Northwest Territories is only one jurisdiction of many that they were going to visit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 157-12(7): Changes In WCB Coverage For Hunters And Trappers

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of the Workers' Compensation Board. In the past, the Standing Committee on Agencies, Boards and Commissions completed a review of the Workers' Compensation Board. One of the recommendations in the report recommended providing extended coverage to hunters and trappers. My question to the Minister is what changes have been made in the provision of coverage for hunters and trappers.

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Samuel Gargan

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The ABCs committee, along with yourself, Mr. Speaker, have been strong advocates of increased coverage for hunters and trappers. We were able to reach a satisfactory arrangement early last year where I believe we were able to determine an appropriate amount of money that was greater than what was there before. That is now in place where we're providing increased coverage to the hunters and trappers. The actual dollar amount, I think is somewhere in the range of a maximum of $20,000, but I can check into that.

I want to assure the honourable Member that we did meet the objectives and the recommendations made by ABCs and the consistent and dogmatic lobbying done by the current Speaker. Thank you.

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you. I thank the Minister for the action taken. What does it now cost the average hunter or trapper to get coverage under the current regime?

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Mr. Speaker, I should know that answer. Unfortunately, it has slipped my mind right now, so I will have to take the question as notice. Sorry.

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Question 158-12(7): H&ss Budget Supplement Document

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, the Minister of Health and Social Services referred to a budget supplement document which summarizes the cooperative efforts among the departments in the social envelope. As far as ordinary Members know, this document is not part of the budget nor was it tabled in this House. I would like to ask the Minister of Finance why this document was brought up as part of the debate on the budget. Mahsi.

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Finance , Mr. Pollard .

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John Pollard

Hay River

Thank you. Good afternoon. Mr. Speaker, that document was put together by the departments for presentation to the Standing Committee on Finance to enable them to see how different areas of the budget relate to the overall problems that they experience in their departments. At that time, it was a possibility that we would bring that document forward and present it to the House to give the House the same kind of knowledge that the Standing Committee on Finance had gained from that document during their review of the budget. So that was the plan at the time, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Good morning to you, too, John. Mr. Antoine .

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mr. Speaker, this budget supplement document was provided to Members of the Standing Committee on Finance during the review of the main estimates in January. Information provided to the Standing Committee on Finance is considered confidential by Members of the committee and great care is taken to ensure that these documents remain confidential. For this reason, standing committee Members do not feel it is their place to distribute

documents provided to them by the government during their review of the budget.

However, the Minister of Health and Social Services yesterday appeared to imply that it should have been the responsibility of standing committee Members to distribute the document to all Members. Can the Minister of Finance please clarify whether the Standing Committee on Finance should distribute documents provided to them by the government during their review of the budget? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, and I apologize for the good morning, good afternoon confusion, Mr. Speaker.

---Laughter

I deal an awful lot with the Standing Committee on Finance, Mr. Speaker, and I think that Members of Cabinet sometimes assume, and perhaps wrongly so, that documents that go to the Standing Committee on Finance, automatically go to ordinary Members of the House who are not Members of that committee. So, I would agree with the chairman that it is not the responsibility of the Standing Committee on Finance to distribute those documents and I would suggest that if we make reference to documents in our statements on this side, that we take full responsibility for providing those documents to other Members of the House. That's the way we will do it in the future, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. If the Minister considers this document, the budget supplement document, to be part of the budget, why did he not refer to it in the budget address? Mahsi.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, I don't consider that document to be part of the budget. It was described as a budget supplement when the information was provided to the Standing Committee on Finance and it was referred to in that manner because it was supplementary information that compiled three particular departments' efforts into something that we felt would be readable and would make more sense if it was put together in one document. It was supplementary information to the budget, not considered part of the budget, Mr. Speaker. So, consequently, I didn't mention it in the budget speech. Thank you.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi. Once again, Mr. Speaker, it appears that this budget supplement document should be accompanying a supplementary appropriation, as it refers to initiatives which are not mentioned in the main estimates. Can the Minister of Finance tell this House whether the government will be introducing a supplementary appropriation for the additional initiatives that are mentioned in this document? Mahsi.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, depending on what Mr. Martin says on Monday, I may be coming back with a different kind of budget. Mr. Speaker, as the chairman knows, there is going to be a meeting between myself and the Standing Committee on Finance on Wednesday morning, I believe at 9:00 am. That is one of the issues that I will report to them on. There is a meeting of Cabinet on Tuesday evening and that is one of the issues we will be deliberating upon decisions on the contents of that document and the discussion that took place in committee of the whole yesterday, will be made next week as to how this thing will be addressed, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Mr. Speaker, I made a Member's statement about social assistance recipients. Now, Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister of Social Services about the procedures for converting cheques to cash, especially for people with children. They only convert a small amount. There are responsible people out there who do not misuse these funds. What are the reasons for making just a certain amount cashable? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Minister of Health and Social Services, Madam Premier .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the social assistance regulations for issuance of assistance include that cash can be made payable to the recipient; jointly to the recipient and the supplier; to the supplier on behalf of the recipient; or, to a trustee. On the issuing of a voucher, this is left to the discretion of the worker, the person who deals with the client. It is done in consultation with the person who is receiving the social assistance.

In that regard, the cheque is usually issued to the supplier -- and this could be at the request of the client -- if there is evidence that the client is unable to manage the money when the money is being used for the care and feeding of children, or as recommended by the hamlet and regional councils. So there is a degree of

flexibility about how social assistance can be issued. Thank you.

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Kenoayoak Pudlat

Baffin South

(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, it is at the discretion of the community and social worker whether social assistance will be issued by voucher or cash. Do I understand that it is at the discretion of the social worker? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, the discretion is exercised with the worker and the client.

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Question 160-12(7): Assessments Of Fas/fae

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 287

Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Health and Social Services. In the past, Mr. Speaker, we have heard a lot of discussion about the problem of fetal alcohol syndrome and fetal alcohol effects in this House. Many northerners, both in this House and out, have expressed concern about how many young people may be affected by these disorders. However, Mr. Speaker, the symptoms of FAS/FAE-related disorders have much in common with many other kinds of disabilities. My question to the Minister is, is it commonly accepted that teachers or parents can accurately assess whether a child is affected by FAS or FAE and the extent of their disorder?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I don't believe it is common or very easy to do, if that is what the Member is implying. I don't believe that's the case. In some cases, FAS is more apparent and FAE is less apparent. These assessments are not easily made, as originally stated by some professional people. These assessments really have to be done in cooperation with the medical profession. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Charles Dent

Yellowknife Frame Lake

Supplementary, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, unless we know the extent of a problem, it is difficult to deal with it. The Minister has just indicated that, typically, lay people cannot diagnose FAS or FAE disorders. Some level of expertise is required. However, Mr. Speaker, last fall the government rejected the need for a professional survey of individuals in an area in the north in order to provide a baseline study on the extent of FAS and FAE in the north. Instead, the Minister told this House that the department would rely on a household survey being conducted by the bureau of statistics. Mr.

Speaker, the Minister has just confirmed that the only accurate assessment of FAS and FAE disorders is through professional diagnosis. Could the Minister advise this House how this household survey will provide accurate baseline information regarding the extent of FAS and FAE in the north?

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I will take the question as notice. Thank you.

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Question 161-12(7): Operation Of Hanging Ice Bison Ranch

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 287

Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask a question to the Minister of Renewable Resources . Mr. Speaker, with regard to the Hanging Ice Bison Ranch that the department takes care of, I would like to ask the Minister if it is the department officials who operate the ranch or do they get any advice from any other groups in Fort Smith? Thank you.

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Samuel Gargan

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I believe that the person who has been working at the Hanging Ice Bison Ranch is a manager who has worked with bison in Alberta over a number of years -- in particular, in the Wood Bison National Park -- and has been dealing with bison for many years of his life. I think he is very capable of managing the ranch in Fort Smith.

As far as consulting with groups in Fort Smith, I believe that they have been working with the sustainable development committee in the town of Fort Smith. Whether any further contact with people in the community of Fort Smith has been made, I don't know. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Samuel Gargan

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you. Since the Minister doesn't know particularly, I would like to ask whether or not the Minister would endeavour to find out whether or not there is a management group to oversee the Hanging Ice Bison Ranch in addition to the sustainable development committee that is assisting through the town of Fort Smith. Thank you.

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Silas Arngna'naaq

Kivallivik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I will.

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Question 162-12(7): Status Of Negotiations Re Mining Accord

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 288

Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources . It is with regard to the mining accord. Mr. Speaker, it's my belief that if we don't get a mining accord before the next election, there will not be a mining accord. We will be in the division mode. The federal government, by that time, will be looking very greedily at whatever revenues will come out of mines. So one chance, I think, to provide self-sufficiency in the Northwest Territories is to get a mining accord. My question to the Minister is, when does he expect the negotiations for a mining accord to be concluded?

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Samuel Gargan

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me say to the honourable Member up front that the mineral accord is a priority of this Cabinet, of the Premier and myself, as the Minister responsible. We are endeavouring, through consultation with the aboriginal groups, to try -- and I stress "try" -- to reach a consensus as to what should be included in the accord. There are two meetings that have taken place. Everybody has come to the table and stated their opinions. In an ideal world, I would like to think we can conclude an accord prior to the call for a new election. Whether, in fact, we will is a difficult question to answer at this time. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the Minister, it seems right now that the federal government is open to the concept of a mining accord. The Premier has established a good relationship with the Prime Minister. All the potential is there right now, and I guess I want to ask the Minister if he can undertake and give a commitment to this House that he will do everything possible to conclude a mining accord before the election, which is, theoretically, going to happen in the fall. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, assuming there is no call for an early election and we do look to October 15th, I am optimistic that we have given this issue top priority for a variety of reasons and both the Finance Minister and the Premier have spoken to them on a number of occasions. I am optimistic that the will is there to reach an arrangement at our level. I have met with the Minister of Indian Affairs directly and asked them to view this as a priority. He has indicated to me, and I believe to other Ministers, that he's prepared to do that.

So the optimist in me says that assuming we can reach a reasonable arrangement that is broadly supported in the Northwest Territories, we should hopefully be able to come to a satisfactory conclusion, hopefully by the fall. Thank you.

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Michael Ballantyne

Yellowknife North

My last question. Some Members have talked about the possibility of an early election and I want to ask the Minister if it would be possible for the Minister to conclude the northern accord or mining accord by June of this year. Thank you.

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John Todd

Keewatin Central

I don't think it would be possible at this time to conclude an arrangement by mid-June of this year. Thank you.

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Question 163-12(7): Current Initiatives To Increase Revenues From Gaming

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 288

Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of Safety and Public Services . There is a lot of talk, especially during the budget reviews, of ways of increasing revenues to this government. Early in the term of this Cabinet, one of the initiatives for looking at increasing revenues was to look at the gambling and lottery initiatives in the way that we are licensing and to maybe review that whole initiative. My question to the Minister is what current initiatives are being looked at to increase revenues from gambling and lottery activities?

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Samuel Gargan

Minister of Safety and Public Services , Mr. Nerysoo .

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just to indicate that the whole matter of the gaming initiatives is not on at this particular time. When the matter began as a matter of public discussion, we began to, I believe, receive some very significant criticism from a number of leaders -- particularly the

community leadership and the church leadership -- about the consequences of opening up this particular matter. So we took the position that it wasn't an issue that should be dealt with at this particular juncture.

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The Speaker

Samuel Gargan

Thank you. Item 6, oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Koe .

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Thank you. So I understand then, from the Minister's comments, that whatever reviews and activities looked at to amend the gaming regulations are now stopped. Can the Minister confirm that there is no further activity being done in that regard?

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, that is correct. We are not pursuing this matter at this particular time. I want to advise the honourable Member, however, that we did do a number of analyses about the potential for this particular matter. The potential looked good. The issue was one of political decision-making and the fact was that there was some criticism. Whether or not you are prepared to take the challenge of the consequences of this, is the issue.

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Samuel Gargan

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Fred Koe

Inuvik

Mahsi. Is that a Cabinet decision to cease any further investigations and review of licensing and increasing revenues from gaming activities?

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Richard Nerysoo

Mackenzie Delta

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, it is not my decision. I took the matter to Cabinet, the decision in Cabinet was that we not pursue this particular matter. The decision was made in July 1994.

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Question 164-12(7): Status Of Community Action Fund

Item 6: Oral Questions

Page 289

Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, Mr.

Speaker, the Minister of Health and Social Services referred to a community action fund in its discussion regarding the budget, and from the unedited Hansard the context is: "That is why the social envelope Ministers" -- this is reading from the unedited Hansard -- "recommended a community action fund to help community groups test their ideas." The reason for that is "...there is a need to try new approaches to deal with priorities in areas such as family violence, early intervention and services to youth." It also says : "The viability of such a fund and the means of raising the money need to be discussed." With that, can the Minister of Finance tell us exactly what is involved in this community action fund?

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, if I could just go back to the envelope process. What we decided this year during the budget process was to put groups of departments together who had similar interests. We decided in the Social Envelope Committee that those departments, in all probability, are dealing with the same client. We were looking for some efficiency in that particular envelope because if we got all of those people around the table working together, we felt that there would be some efficiencies and we would be better able to save dollars and service the same clientele and not have any overlap and duplication.

From the Social Envelope Committee, flowed this document that suggested a community wellness fund. It does bring the same kind of cooperation back to the community level and I think that was the purpose of the document; to explain that to the Standing Committee on Finance. So the idea comes from the Social Envelope Committee and it is to work together at the community level for community wellness. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The government has referred to this as a "fund" or a "plan." There seems to be one important element that is missing; namely, the identification of funds. In the unedited Hansard, they make references to such a fund and raising this money. Can the Minister explain what initiatives the government is taking to identify funding for this plan or this fund? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the Financial Management Board has not yet given approval for this initiative to go ahead. The Financial Management Board probably will not make that decision until such time as there is some agreement on where this $3.2 or $3.4 million is going to come from. I have some ideas on that, particularly on that amount of funding. I will be bringing that to the meeting on Tuesday evening, at which, Cabinet is going to discuss this issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With that, does the Minister intend to introduce a supplementary appropriation to fund this community action fund if he is successful in convincing his colleagues on the Financial Management Board? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the community wellness fund has yet to be discussed at Cabinet level or at the Financial Management Board level, so if there is agreement that the initiative should proceed, then my question to the Members of that particular board is going to be, where do we get the money from. They are going to say to me, well, what do you suggest.

So if there is agreement that the fund is required because FMB says this program is required, and if we can reach agreement on how to raise those funds or where to get that money from then, yes, we would propose bringing that issue back to the floor of this House and amending the budget or department somehow so that it is reflected in the 1995-96 budget. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is amazing that the government would suggest a plan without providing means for funding it. I recognize that the government is in a very difficult situation trying to balance expenditures and revenues, but I don't think it's appropriate for government to bring up a program without proposing a means of funding it. Can the Minister explain why means of funding the community action fund were not included in the budget? Thank you.

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John Pollard

Hay River

Mr. Speaker, the program is not in this budget. It is not in the documents before this House. It was a reaction from the social envelope committee to questions about how you are going to deal with these particular issues in communities. It was a way of showing the Standing Committee on Finance a way of addressing these problems. But, certainly, the program hasn't been adopted. It is not in the budget and it is not intended to be delivered at this particular time.

Although we know that it is something that a lot of the Members in this House want to have happen, we know that it is something that communities want to have happen, but it is certainly not there at the present time. Until such time as there is agreement on (a), the program; and, (b), where the funding comes from, it will not be brought back to the floor of the House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 165-12(7): Authorization For 90-day Time Frame Re Fire Suppression Negotiations

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Premier . Mr. Speaker, we all know last year that the Cabinet made a decision to allow negotiation of the Dene-Metis Holdings to address fire suppression. And when that decision was made in August -- specifically, August 10, 1994 -- a time frame of 90 days was granted. Could the Premier advise this House who determined the 90-day time frame? Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, it was a Cabinet decision.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could I ask the Premier as to why 90 days was used? Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I would have to go back to the discussion paper, but the 90 days -- if my recollection is correct -- is sufficient time for a person to prepare and come back with the proposal. So it was in the general limits of what is normally allowed to give adequate time for the proponent to come forward with a proposal. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Jeannie Marie-Jewell

Thebacha

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Recognizing the proposal that Cabinet wanted developed was to address the multi-million dollar contracts -- specifically, in excess of $5 million -- I would like to ask the Premier , was there any

consideration for an extension of 90 days prior to the decision being made? Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I will have to take that question as notice. Thank you.

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John Ningark

Natilikmiot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services, but before I pose the question, I think the call for an early election by some affiliates is, in my mind, downright conniving. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, the Minister has indicated that the government is waiting for the results of the birthing project in Rankin Inlet before making a decision on the Taloyoak project. Under what circumstances would the government consider proceeding with the Taloyoak birthing centre before the Rankin Inlet review is complete? Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Ningark . I would just like to remind Members that question period is for questions and not for statements. Minister of Health and Social Services, Ms. Cournoyea .

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I believe even though the Rankin Inlet project evaluation has not been done, we are talking to the health interest group in Taloyoak on how that could happen. So, even though that assessment hasn't been done, we are in the process of trying to understand what the community wants to do so we would be ahead of the game. These things take some time and discussion. In the Kitikmeot region, there are some health facilities which are presently being either renovated or redone. I feel it is appropriate to have the discussions along with health planning for that region. It is not as though we are not discussing it just because an assessment hasn't been concluded. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. If the Rankin review is positive, Mr. Speaker, will the Minister guarantee that Taloyoak will be the next community considered for a birthing centre? Thank you.

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Nellie Cournoyea

Nunakput

Mr. Speaker, I believe there are a couple of other communities that are also interested in a birthing centre. Yes, I will commit, but I can't guarantee. The fact is we are discussing with the community right now on how we can proceed or what has to be done to have a birthing unit in Taloyoak. So it is really next on the list because it is happening right now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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Question 167-12(7): Status Of Settlement Operating And Assistance Policies

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Jim Antoine

Nahendeh

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Honourable Kelvin Ng my first question. First of all, I would like to congratulate him for being in the Cabinet now. Working with him on the Standing Committee on Finance, I'm sure he'll be a good Minister. Speaking of SCOF, I certainly hope he still stands behind all the motions he supported as a Member.

---Laughter

Especially to my communities.

---Laughter

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Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Ng .

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Kelvin Ng

Kitikmeot

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, it is the policy that Mr. Antoine and other Members of this House have been pursuing over the last couple of years. It is the settlement operating and capital assistance policy that is meant to bring a fair and equitable allocation and distribution of funding to smaller communities. The policy itself was approved by Cabinet yesterday and there will be a submission made to the Financial Management Board for the allocation and finalization of dollars to implement the policy. Thank you.

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