Budget, Oral Questions — 31 January 1997 (13th Assembly, 4th Session, pp. 315–335)
1997-01-31, 13th Assembly 4th Session, pp. 315–335
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Jan. 31st, 1997
This is page numbers 315 - 335 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 4th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was chairman .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
NWT And Yukon Reach Agreement On Dempster Highway
Innovative Revenue Initiatives
Funding For Alcohol And Drug Training Programs
Impact Of Budget Reductions On Language Services
Stanton Hospital Patient Representative
Importance Of The Mining Sector
Community Libraries
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Housing Shortages In Clyde River
Funding For Alcohol And Drug Training Programs
Community Libraries
Principals' Employment Contracts
Contracting Procedures
Dempster Highway Closures
Student Summer Employment
Funding For Self-government Negotiations
Confirmation Of Amalgamation
Status Of Liquor Law Review
Funding For Self-government Negotiations
Post Lay-off Training Assistance
Item 10: Replies To Budget Address
Item 14: Tabling Of Documents
Appointment Of Conflict Of Interest Commissioner
Item 20: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 21: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Members Present
Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Mr. Barnabas , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Enuaraq , Mr. Erasmus , Honourable Samuel Gargan , Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Don Morin , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Picco , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable John Todd
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Oh God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people for peace and justice in our land and for recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
Page 315
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Arlooktoo . Good morning. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Antoine .
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Minister's Statement 36-13(4): NWT And Yukon Reach Agreement On Dempster Highway
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 315
Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier this year, communities in the Mackenzie Delta were surprised to hear reports that the Yukon Territorial Government was considering closing the Dempster Highway during the winter months as a cost-saving measure. The Delta communities were quick to respond, pointing out the importance of this highway link for the delivery of their fresh groceries and supplies. They also identified the volume of business that Delta residents and businesses create in the Yukon every year.
I am happy to report to the Members that the Yukon Government does not plan to close the Dempster Highway.
-- Applause
Here in Yellowknife, the Members for the Delta area, community and business representatives and I met on Wednesday, January 29th, 1997, with the Honourable David Keenan, Yukon's Minister of Community and Transportation Services. With the exception of the short periods each fall and spring, when the Mackenzie and Peel River crossings are out of service, we confirmed that maintenance on the Yukon portion of the highway will continue and traffic will continue to flow.
Yukon's government is facing the same financial problems we are. Like ourselves, budget cuts in the Yukon are a reality. Early in their budget exercise, the Dempster Highway was targeted and options evaluated. I am pleased to say that they contacted us and gave us an opportunity to contribute to their evaluation. This week's meeting shows that they gave our concerns and advice genuine consideration and the impact of the budget cuts on Delta residents has been minimized.
The cuts to the Dempster Highway's budget are best described as operational efficiencies rather than service cuts. The closing of one of the three highway maintenance camps may result in little longer response times to changing road conditions but should not affect the safe operation of the highway. The closing of the highway and redeploying of staff to other activities, during the fall and spring periods when the Mackenzie and Peel River crossings are also closed, will have only a minimal impact on the highway's use.
Even this impact can be reduced by scheduling opening and closing dates, so that travel and shipping plans can be made in advance. Other changes, such as increasing dust control and eliminating snow catchments, will actually improve the service on the highway, while achieving long-term savings in operating costs.
While he was here, I expressed my appreciation to Minister Keenan for the cooperative approach his government has taken in this matter. Today, Mr. Speaker, I would also like to acknowledge the efforts of honourable Mr. Krutko , Mr. Roland and Mr. Steen , as well as the community and business representatives, who took the time to offer their advice and expertise, both to my office and directly to the Yukon government. By working together, Mr. Speaker, there will be no interruption in the Dempster Highway's vital link to the communities of the Mackenzie Delta.
Mahsi cho, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 36-13(4): NWT And Yukon Reach Agreement On Dempster Highway
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 315
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Antoine . Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. Mr. Henry .
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Innovative Revenue Initiatives
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 315
Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the issue of revenue generation opportunities in the north came up several times recently in the House. It is important, Mr. Speaker, that we develop a strategy to gradually reduce our dependence on transfer of payments from the federal government. We have to explore innovative ways to broaden our economic base by examining new avenues to generate revenues in the north. We must strive to create new economic opportunities and jobs so that we can achieve a sustainable level of growth.
Mr. Speaker, we must be proactive and seriously examine the revenue side of our budget, to help ensure a more hopeful and promising future for our children. Promoting the north, and enhancing economic links with the south, is one viable option. Mr. Krutko has been a visionary in this regard since he combines Mickey Mouse ties with traditional attire. Mr. Speaker, I wonder if we can pursue this innovative approach in our desire to creatively explore potential revenue generators in the north. With these colourful Mickey Mouse ties displayed on the television screen, the Disney company has certainly been benefiting from this free form of advertising.
Mr. Speaker, I wonder if, in the north, we can now share in the wealth, by inviting Disney to come to Yellowknife and develop a show about the north, or even take
part in discussing the dress code in the House. This item has been referred to the Rules Committee, of which I am chair, so I believe we will be inviting Disney to appear before that committee. They can also promote the north's fashions in the south, but also our northern environment and lifestyle. Given Mr. Krutko 's contacts with Mickey Mouse, perhaps he can link us with Walt Disney and invite them to the north. We can send a copy of Hansard, with our invitation, and also invite the national media to get maximum national coverage, here in Canada and in the US.
Mr. Speaker, we have all the amenities to accommodate events such as this and display our northern hospitality. I am sure this event will benefit many businesses in the north, including airlines, hotels and restaurants. Mr. Speaker, this may seem a mickey mouse way to generate revenue, but so what, as long as we get the revenue and the publicity. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Innovative Revenue Initiatives
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 316
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Henry . Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .
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Funding For Alcohol And Drug Training Programs
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 316
David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today is in regards to the whole question about community empowerment and, also, healing for the communities in regards to alcohol and drug programs. The government policy talks about community transfers to create opportunities in communities and more control and authority over programs for communities to empower themselves. Without trained, qualified individuals within those positions to take on those responsibilities, the communities will be lacking a very critical resource, which is the human resource, in those particular fields.
One of the fields that seems to have taken the most impact lately is the whole area of alcohol and drug programming, the Tl'oondih Healing Society, Delta House. Now, in relation to training those individuals to take on the role of helping the communities heal, we have to have adequate resources, and the people in place with the qualifications, who have received diplomas and have gone away for that training. Yet, we hear today that the Delta Cultural Institute, in relation to the training program that they have conducted into the alcohol and drug counselling program, is being cut. Yet, Mr.
Speaker, the communities that I represent, have sent individuals to Hay River to take on this responsibility and assist the community in the area of healing. So, Mr. Speaker, I would like to know, what is it? Are we empowering the communities by giving the authority, or are we impairing the communities by not having trained resourceful people in those positions to take on those responsibilities?
Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be asking the Minister of Social Services a question on this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Funding For Alcohol And Drug Training Programs
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 316
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Picco .
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Impact Of Budget Reductions On Language Services
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 316
Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, over the past week we have discussed at some length the new budget. We have spent the first year and a half of our mandate as an Assembly trying to deal with the legacy of debt that we inherited. We have also spent time gearing up for division. With this in mind, it is unclear how replacing regional librarians in the east with support services from the west is either cost effective or logistically sound. Mr. Speaker, in less than 800 days two new territories will be formed.
Is it sensible for this government to downsize, in this case, library services before division because on April 1, 1999, Nunavut will not have the regional librarian position because the whole basis of the operation will be in far off Hay River. What will we do then, Mr. Speaker? Who will provide those library and languages services? Language is an issue here, Mr. Speaker, because the regional librarian coordinates and facilitates the collection of Inuktitut materials. Following on this, Mr. Speaker, the proposed closure of the language bureau is another attack by this government on language and education.
How can we justify closing the language bureau when the monetarial savings will be minimal? No, Mr. Speaker, we need this government involved with language issues. We need a presence with Dogrib, Gwich'in, North and South Slavey, Cree, Inuktitut and other aboriginal languages. It is sad, Mr. Speaker, sad that some people see the language bureaus as only a den of interpreters and translators. The language bureau is more than this, and I will be asking questions on this area, later today. Mr. Speaker, a reputation for a 1,000 years can depend on the conduct of a single moment.
Let the Members of the 13th Assembly remember this, Mr. Speaker.
-- Applause
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Impact Of Budget Reductions On Language Services
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 316
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Picco . Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus .
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Stanton Hospital Patient Representative
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 316
Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My statement today, is in regards the service that is available through Stanton Hospital. Mr. Speaker, the other day I made a statement concerning eye glasses. My intent, Mr. Speaker, was to try to fix the problem, wherever it may be, whether it is through the prescriptions, the dispensing of the prescriptions, or if it happens to be the people who make the glasses down south, or whatever. I have tried different means of getting some action prior to that, but there was one avenue that I was not aware of, and I would like to make the public aware of that today.
When people deal with health care professionals and facilities, it can be an intimidating thing, particularly for people who do not work in offices. They may be unhappy with how they were treated, or they do not understand why some things were done. Stanton Hospital recognizes this, and they recognize that patients and families may have questions, but do not know where to find the answers or that they may have a complaint to register.
To help the general public, Stanton has appointed a patient representative back around 1993 or so, and patients or their families who have questions or concerns can go to this representative. They can raise questions about the hospital itself, its various clinics, or its staff. The patient representative tries to help in a way that is easy for the patient or the family. The current representative is Heather Chang, and she can be contacted in person at the hospital or else you can call a toll free number which is 1-800-661-0896, or you can reach her by letter at Stanton Hospital.
She will do what she can to try to help you. Each and every concern is followed up, and additionally a
summary of concerns is given to the board and a quality management committee regularly. This is how the hospital has responded to try to listen and to improve its service. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
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Stanton Hospital Patient Representative
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Member for Yellowknife North is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent, Mr. Erasmus .
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Stanton Hospital Patient Representative
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said, the hospital is trying to respond to concerns in this manner. One of the things that I would like to suggest is perhaps they could advertise this a little bit better, so that more people know about the representative and this 1-800 line and the rest of that. Perhaps they could up a sign prominently displayed at the hospital, at the eye clinic, at the health clinic and the various offices that they have, so people will know this. Mr.
Speaker, I applaud the Stanton Hospital's efforts to be responsive to the needs of their patients, and if people have a concern or questions to ask, I urge them to let Stanton Hospital know through this agency, because if they do not know there is a problem, they cannot fix it. Thank you.
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Stanton Hospital Patient Representative
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Erasmus . Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .
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Importance Of The Mining Sector
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have often spoken on the importance of mining in the Northwest Territories, and the need for us to diversify our northern economy, and I know that Mr. Henry spoke on this a little earlier, and he has a good idea, but I think what we certainly have to concentrate on is to reduce our dependency on federal government financing. On Wednesday of this week, I attended a future focus meeting sponsored by the City of Yellowknife. They have held these meetings for the past year on various subjects such as seniors' education. This week's meeting was on mining.
Mining is a $1 billion industry here in the Northwest Territories, and it employs some 1,700 people, and that makes it the largest private sector employer, and actually it is just behind the territorial government. They contribute to the creation of a lot of spinoff jobs, such as the chartered airline industry, the main airline industries, supply companies, and on and on it goes. So when we speak about 1,700 jobs, there is likely 1,700 other jobs in the Territories that are dependent upon mining.
But all is not good news on the mining front. The price of gold is dropping, and it will likely stay there for some time. What that means is that it puts some of the mines in a precarious position. Some of the mines are very old and nearing the end of their life. Polaris is another mine that might well reach the end of its life in 2001. We need to encourage mining here in the Northwest Territories and exploration, but what we need to do, and we certainly have to keep that in mind here as legislators, is that we need reform, regulatory reform.
Mining companies need a harmonization of regulations. They need a single efficient system. Land claims need to be settled quickly and fairly, so that mining groups can continue and know who to approach with respect to who owns the land. A database needs to be made accessible for geoscience information. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
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Importance Of The Mining Sector
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Member for Yellowknife Centre is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. You have unanimous consent, Mr. Ootes .
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Importance Of The Mining Sector
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Infrastructure needs to be built. We need roads, there are resources, a program such as existed years before, and we need to bring that to the attention of the federal government. They, after all, are the major beneficiaries of the diamond mine that is coming in through the royalty factor, so we need to pressure the federal government. We need a trained work force, and mining companies need access to land. Mining can kick start our northern economy, Mr. Speaker, and that leads to job creation, and that leads to improvement in our ill social conditions. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Importance Of The Mining Sector
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Ootes . Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .
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Community Libraries
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to make some brief comments today about the concern I have about community libraries across the Northwest Territories. Mr. Speaker, community libraries are very important institutions at the community level. The community library in Fort Smith is a centre place for literacy and it also, in a community of 2,500 people has over 10,000 users a year. I am very concerned Mr. Speaker, because I have heard that the government has a review under way which would show a cut to existing budgets to community libraries
Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that the existing community libraries have not had their funding raised in 10 years. The community in Fort Smith cost shares the library with the territorial government. If in fact this is the case, that this study will be recommending that there will be cuts to existing libraries, it is something that I will be hard pressed to support. The intent of the government may be laudable to try to spread community libraries around, but it makes no sense to me, Mr. Speaker, to cut already underfunded institutions to create even more underfunded and under-resourced institutions.
So, I would encourage the government, if they are going to pursue this initiative to in fact make it a positive initiative where they try to identify funds to build community libraries, not to cripple the existing ones to try to build more inadequate community library services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
-- Applause
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Community Libraries
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 317
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Return To Question 90-13(4): Housing Shortages In Clyde River
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 318
Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Mr. Speaker, I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Enuaraq on January 23, regarding housing shortages in Clyde River. Mr. Speaker, I would like to address the question raised by Mr. Enuaraq about the Housing Corporation's policy on so called matchbox houses. There are approximately 300 homes left that were built under the northern (inaudible) program of the federal government back in the 1960s and early 1970s. Many of these homes have been renovated to more modern standards. There are only a dozen of the old matchbox houses left.
Clyde River is the only community in the NWT which still uses the original matchboxes for rental units. The Housing Corporation, as a result of the elimination of federal funds for new public housing, has had to amend its policy about replacing all northern rentals. A recent letter to all LHO's from the Housing Corporation's president outlined the new plans. All of the northern renters are being evaluated with particular emphasis on those home which still lack basic facilities like hot and cold running water. The Housing Corporation will renovate or replace all northern rentals in poor condition.
The matchbox houses will be replaced with new homes in 1997/98 and 1998/99. Thank you.
--Applause
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Return To Question 90-13(4): Housing Shortages In Clyde River
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 318
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mrs. Groenewegen .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Page 318
Jane Groenewegen
Hay River
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today is professional development day in Hay River at Diamond Jenness Secondary School, so I am pleased to have my son, Jeffery Groenewegen and two of his friends, Michael McBryan, and Jeremy Studney are visiting today from Hay River.
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Page 318
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Krutko .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Page 318
David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Pat Thomas with the NWTTA.
-- Applause
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Page 318
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6: oral questions. Mr. Enuaraq .
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Question 188-13(4): Housing Shortages In Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 318
Tommy Enuaraq
Baffin Central
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask a question first to the Minister of Housing , to Goo Arlooktoo . As it states here, what he just read regarding housing shortages in Clyde River and also 1998 and 1999. According to my way of understanding what the Minister said. Did he state that the matchboxes that are still left over, there are still seven, and also, are they going to be replaced? Is that his statement? (Translation ends)
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Question 188-13(4): Housing Shortages In Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 318
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Minister responsible for the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Return To Question 188-13(4): Housing Shortages In Clyde River
Question 188-13(4): Housing Shortages In Clyde River
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 318
Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
(Translation) You understood my question. Those old houses in Clyde River, the so called matchboxes, they are in existence still because there is a great deal of shortage in housing in Clyde River. There are no more matchboxes in any other communities. Also, there is going to be a new house being built up to 1999, a smaller house. (Translation ends)
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Question 189-13(4): Funding For Alcohol And Drug Training Programs
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Social Services , Mr. Kelvin Ng . In relation to my opening statement, the whole question about alcohol and drug counsellors and training for those counsellors in the communities, so that once we do take on more authority in relation to the community transfer initiatives by his department, which he is calling the community wellness, and also in regards to the healing process that a lot of our communities are presently in.
In the case of Fort McPherson, Mr. Speaker, several individuals who were associated with Tl'oondih Healing Society have taken the challenge of going to Hay River in regards to the Dene Cultural Institute to program for alcohol and drug counselling diploma program have made the adjustment to take on that authority with eventually coming home and working along with the Tl'oondih Healing Society to assist the community in the healing process it is presently going through. Mr.
Speaker, my question to the Minister is: do they have adequate resources for training dollars so when the communities do take on these responsibilities, they will have resources to have people trained and able to take these things on in a fashion that will meet the success of that program?
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we commend them on their efforts, all alcohol and drug community workers in trying to upgrade their skills to provide services to all our constituents throughout the territories.
We will be giving communities the flexibility by having the dollars at the community level or at the regional level if it is chosen to be held there to allow them to set their own priorities, and if training is one of those priorities outside of current funding, that would be available through the college, the Aurora and the Nunavut Arctic college program system that we have in place, then by all means if that is there priority they can, to complement those programs that the colleges offer then they would have the ability to do that, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regards to the whole question about the training dollars, will those dollars come in a way of block funding or will they be associated with the transfer itself and how much will the transfer for these training opportunities that will come along, be so that people can be trained to eventually take over those programs in the communities.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I do not have the specifics on the dollar amounts now. As I indicated, there will be some movement of dollars in the allocation dollars outside of Yellowknife to the regional level. It may be determined at that time that further dollars may be pushed out to the community levels, so that local municipal councils, band councils, local alcohol and drug organizations will have significantly more input into where they would see those dollars best being utilized, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regards to the whole question about training dollars to the communities, could you give me the exact breakdown of those dollars for my constituency in regards to how much they are going to be getting with these transfers so I can have an idea of what we are talking about here?
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would say that the actual specific dollars identified for training would be minimal. As it stands now in the whole scheme of the alcohol and drug funding provided through the Department of Health and Social Services, as you know, the focus has been on some of the treatment and the communities base programs. That is historically where this department has channelled their financial expenditures in that area, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just in regards to the whole question about having the minimum training dollars allocated to communities to take on these responsibilities. Do you not think the government is also reneging on the responsibility to ensure that we have adequate people in the communities to take on these transfers so they can deliver these programs to its fullest?
Could the Minister give me a listing of exactly the amount of dollars that will be allocated with these transfers so that communities could be made aware of exactly the amounts of money they will be getting for these transfers, so when they do take them on, they are aware of all the aspects of these transfers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I fully support what the Member is alluding to and the fact that the increased training of alcohol and drug workers is beneficial to all of us. We recognize that now. I am not trying to minimalize the question or the answer to the honourable Member. The fact is that the funding for training alcohol and drug workers specifically is not entirely held by the Department of Health and Social Services.
The fact that I was trying to get to was that the Arctic college programs, both east and west, provide alcohol and drug training funds and they have students financial assistance programs that allow our constituents and the workers to access program dollars to upgrade their skills, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Education, Culture, and Employment . Could the Minister indicate whether in fact there is a review taking place of community libraries? Please.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, like all of the programs offered by the department, there are generally reviews undertaken, and libraries are certainly going to be looked at in the course of the next little while. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Michael Miltenberger
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister indicate whether in fact a draft has been developed that does indicate that the plan is to cut discontinued library funding to try to parcel it out in a more equitable fashion, but not put any more new funding in? Thank you.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I believe that there has been a draft that has been circulated for public comment. It certainly does not represent a position taken by the department. We are at this point in time, looking for comment only and there have been no decisions made as to how to proceed with this project from here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister indicated that they have gone to the public for consultation. Could the Minister indicate the type of public consultation? Have library boards, for instance, been consulted at that level? My understanding was this was still a fairly exclusive piece of documentation.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I do not believe that the process has become a public process yet. I think what has happened is that there have been some ideas kicked around. The department is looking for some guidance in terms of what would make sense to some people out there and I expect that the consultative process will broaden after there has been some refining of the initial kick at the can, if you will. Thanks.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Could the Minister indicate whether he would be also referring the document, when it is ready, back to the appropriate standing committee, so that we as well could have input into this territorial wide review? Thank you.
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Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It has been the policy of this government to ensure that the Committees of this House are brought into the picture and we seek their guidance when talking about changes in policy. There will be no exception in this case, Mr. Speaker.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Education, Culture, and Employment , the Honourable Charles Dent . The letter dated January 8, 1997, addressed to the District Education Authorities and Divisional Education Councils, the Minister outlined the terms under the new Education Act regarding principals who are already hired on indeterminate status.
Section 63(1) of the Act requires principals to be hired on terms not exceeding five years. In this letter the Minister declared that all principals hired in indeterminate positions are notified that their status will end as of June 30, 1997, and they will then be deemed to be hired on a five year term, running from July 1, 1997, to June 30, 2002. My question for the Minister is: why are principals guaranteed positions for six years from the time the Act came into force?
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, jobs are not guaranteed for anybody. What has happened is that there has been a change in the type of employment. Until now, principals have been employed in indeterminate positions, in other words there was no term involved. The new Act, which came into effect on July 1, 1996, states that principals could no longer be hired on an indeterminate status, but for five year terms. Until the Act was proclaimed on July 1, the principals were still in indeterminate positions. With the new Act coming into force on July 1, we then had to give principals notice.
According to the collective agreement, they are required to receive 60 days notice regarding any change in the terms of their employment. Since the Act was not in force 60 days prior to July 1, 1996, that notice could not be given in advance, it could only be given subsequent to the Act coming into force. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, now if I understand the Minister correctly, it would seem that this policy will go on after 1997 and of course if it goes on after 1997 the implication here is it goes on after April 1, 1999, to the year 2002. So can the Minister confirm to me that this government, then, in this new Act, is guaranteeing employment to the principals after the year 1999, the year 2000, the year 2001 and 2002, as outlined in his previous statement. Thank you.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. No, that is not a correct
interpretation. The correct
interpretation is that the maximum term of employment for a principal is five years, after which that term can be renewed by the Divisional
Education Council, if they should so choose. There are always methods to remove an employee who is not doing a good job. Do not think that this is a means of guaranteeing employment. It is just notification to principals that the terms of their employment have changed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Edward Picco
Iqaluit
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain to me then how this policy has been directed to the local education authorities as keeping with the community empowerment initiative by setting time limits, and so on, and the appointment of these very important people in smaller communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would concur with the Member's comment that these are very important people in every community. I think that principals, by and large, across the Northwest Territories, are doing exceptional jobs in difficult circumstances. The previous Legislature saw a need to change the legislation so a principal's position was no longer indeterminate but was limited to a maximum of five years. Because that is set in legislation, we had no choice but to enforce it. The letter that has gone out is a clear response to legislation and is not tied to the community empowerment initiative.
However, I would like to point out, Mr. Speaker, that the Education Act is probably one of the best examples that we have of community empowerment, already in place, in the Northwest Territories. Local communities, through this Act, can have, in consultation with Divisional Education Councils, significant powers in the administration and running of the schools in their communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 192-13(4): Contracting Procedures
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Public Works and Services . Yesterday, I asked the Minister about the various methods by which the government awards contracts and the Minister made reference to requests for proposals. I wonder if the Minister could tell me, is that the same as a construction management proposal?
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Mr. Speaker. No, not necessarily. A request for proposals, as I explained yesterday, is when the government has a specific job that it wants done but does not have all the details on how it should be done. What we do is, we send a call letter out asking for proposals which is different from a public tender contract, where we know exactly what needs to be done. A request for proposals could be on construction management proposal.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Yes. Does the Minister mean that a request for proposals is made up of various methods, one of which is construction management proposal?
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A request for proposals could be on absolutely anything. We have had requests for proposals this past year on field contracting, on privatization of systems and computers, some housing projects. So, a request for proposals is just that. We are asking companies to submit plans and ideas, costing et cetera, on how they would do a specific job for the government to review.
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Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, that does clarify the request for proposal. I wonder if the Minister could tell me what the construction management proposal is?
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Mr. Speaker, there are specific cases where the government does have some resources, some equipment, that it has for use on a specific project but requires the use of expertise to manage them. That is what it covers.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Is that the same as site supervisor services?
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Goo Arlooktoo
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Mr. Speaker, I really do not know. There are various construction projects, some of them large, that do have site superintendents or site managers and they could be called various things and called site superintendents.
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Question 193-13(4): Dempster Highway Closures
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question today is directed towards the Minister of Transportation , the Honourable Jim Antoine . Mr. Speaker, I took
part in the meeting with the Minister of Transportation , and I would like to thank him for allowing our input as ordinary MLAs and the Council members that did come down. I would like to know, he mentioned in his statement about working on dates for closure between when the ferries are in and out. Can the Minister inform me when those dates will be discussed or what time will they come up to firm up these dates? Thank you.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the information that the Honourable David Keenan, Minister of Transportation for Yukon, passed on to us in regards to the cost reduction exercises relating to the Dempster Highway, involves closures and seasonal staff reductions on the highway system. According to their proposal, during the spring break-up and during the fall freeze-up, there is about a period of maybe four weeks, four weeks in the spring and four weeks in the fall.
As we all know, living in the north, we do not know exactly when the ice is going to break up in the spring and we do not know exactly when it is going to freeze up as well in the fall. So, trying to look at the times over the years, around what time these natural incidents happen, with that in mind, and working along with us, we will try to develop a more firm time with the Yukon Government. At this point in time, we do not have the exact time.
I think what the honourable Minister from the Yukon was trying to do, was pass on information to us that this is their intention of doing it. They are still not into their budget yet. I think they are still developing their budget. I think, in time, we will have firmer dates. Thank you.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am sure many people in Inuvik, and Inuvik region, will be quite happy to hear that the closures are not going to be as extreme as initially discussed. I would like to encourage the Minister to keep the community, and the region, informed as to any changes that are coming up and when dates are set. I would like to know if the Minister would continue working with us as a community of Inuvik, and region of Inuvik, on the Dempster Highway. Thank you.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I think the example where, a couple of days ago, when the Honourable Minister Keenan came down and the three MLAs from the Delta were invited, along with community leaders, should be an indication of the type of working together that I would like to see continue on as we deal with the Dempster situation. We will be keeping you very well informed as we move along. Thank you.
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Question 194-13(4): Student Summer Employment
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd . It is concerning student summer employment. It is about the time of the year that we have to start thinking about employing as many students as we can, so that we can be prepared, by the time they get out of school. I know that, last year, we did not have as many job openings as we had wanted to. I know that the Finance Minister had indicated that he was going to try to improve the situation this year, so, I was wondering if the Finance Minister has, in fact, done anything so that we can get more students employed this year than last year.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker and a good question by my honourable colleague. Just a little history, if I may, for clarity's sake. If you remember when we were negotiating last year with the UNW, we indicated to them that we thought we could try to find a wage rate for students that was different from the normal civil servant, so that we could employ more students, not less. Unfortunately, for one reason or another, we could not get an agreement. We are, as I have said in the House before, as Mr. Dent has said, looking at an affirmative action policy and also looking at a northern job strategy.
As part of that overall northern job strategy, we are also looking at, specifically, a program for students this summer. We are going to be, hopefully, bringing forward to the committee, the Government Ops Committee, both these papers to seek their input and direction on and get this thing under way, so that we can be up and running for the summer. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Would the strategy result in more jobs being available for students than there was last year?
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is certainly our intention to do that. We hope to be able to get the resources from within and as I said, hopefully next week, we are going to have both these reports ready. We are going to be presenting to the Government Operations Committee, have a healthy dialogue at committee to try to get some consensus as to where we move forward and, I am optimistic and confident, that this summer we will be able to bring more students to the work force than we have in the past, based upon the cooperation and support we get from the Ordinary Members with respect to our overall job strategy and the affirmative action policy. Thank you.
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. One of the problems that many students have from the small communities, is that there is no work in the communities. Often they have to come to Yellowknife, Hay River or Rankin Inlet, to a larger centre to work and they may not necessarily want to do that. Is it possible to provide, perhaps, some funding to the communities or some other means so that there are more jobs available in the communities, as well for summer students. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our overall objective is to accomplish exactly that. It is going to take the energetic cooperation of the government committees and the Ministers, who are leading this, both myself and Mr. Dent . As I said to my colleague in answer to his last question, I am confident, if we move quickly and enthusiastically, we can get some changes into the system for implementation this summer.
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Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday the Premier indicated there was no central agency for hiring people in Yellowknife. Is it possible to have a central agency for the students, so that we can be more properly coordinated in our efforts to make sure that they get their jobs?
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The details, as I say, have not really been worked out in terms of where we are going with this. We need to sit down with the committees. Plus Cabinet will ultimately have to approve some of the initiatives that we are considering right now. I think it would be fair to say that the general thrust, at least at this early stage, is for more of these things to be driven from the communities, rather than from the centre. So, it is a little early, at this time, to determine exactly what the deliberating stage will be but there will be adequate opportunity for the committee to give us advice and direction on that, as we proceed through this exercise, hopefully in March and April. Thank you.
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Question 195-13(4): Funding For Self-government Negotiations
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Vince Steen
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Aboriginal Affairs , Mr. Antoine . Mr. Speaker, yesterday we heard in the House from Mr. Todd that Mr. Antoine was submitting a supplementary appropriation request for $1 million for self-government talks. I would like to know, from the Minister, why he feels it was not necessary that this pass through the Infrastructure Committee? Thank you.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the honourable Member asked a question here in regards to additional funds that are required to carry on the very important work in with Aboriginal Affairs, and as other Members know from the Infrastructure Committee that every time I appear before them I made a point that we are lacking funds and we have a lot of work to do to accomplish the kind of directions that is put forward here for us to accomplish and as a result of that we move forward. I thought the understanding there was that the different Members that there is a real need to secure additional fundings to carry on the work that is directly for this ministry to do. Thank you.
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Thank you. Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Steen .
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Vince Steen
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are sitting in the House for at least another month, I wonder why the Minister felt it was so urgent to have this passed through supplementary without going through the committee, since we are here anyway. It does not seem to be that much of a big issue to call a meeting of the Infrastructure Committee, and the Committee would then have responded. Could the Minister indicate what was the urgency?
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is a financial matter and as a government we like to defer these type of financial matters to the Minister of Finance to answer this question. Mr. Speaker, thank you.
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Thank you. Mr. Todd , would you like to respond?
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well I did already respond to another question asked by Mr. Picco as to the dollars and the process for it. The reality is that self-government negotiations are under way. We believe, the Cabinet and the FMB and to some extent many Members in this House believe there is an urgent need for additional resources to move this thing forward. A submission came in through the normal process through FMB, which was approved and that will be subject to approval of this House, either in this session. It is not for expenditures until the new fiscal year and we follow due process. Thank you.
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Vince Steen
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday when the question was put to the Minister of Finance , it was suggested that it be redirected to Mr. Antoine because it was put forward in the request to the Finance Minister , so, the first question is: why did the request go to the Minister of Finance before the need was discussed with the appropriate committee? I understand, Mr. Speaker, that the process is going to the envelope committee, from there to the operational Committee for Government Ops, and then from there back to the Minister. Therefore, what is the point of the committees?
I guess what my question is, what is the point of the committee process if we are going to go from one Minister's department, speak to the Finance Department and the committees do not have any option to discuss the thing. So the question really comes back, what was the need for the request?
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Thank you. There is a bit of a confusion here too and I am not too clear on which way to direct my question. Mainly because there are two Ministers involved and it is difficult to determine which has the responsibilities, but can I ask Mr. Todd , the Minister of Finance , if he can clarify the situation. I believe there were two questions asked. One with regard to yesterday and the direction to question two. Mr. Todd .
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Yes, thank you Mr. Speaker. I think it would be fair to say if matters of a fiscal nature would be referred to myself as the Finance Minister , matters of a self-government nature as it relates to the talks or process or whatever, would be addressed to Mr. Antoine . Maybe I just need to explain the process. We have followed the process. Budget was prepared. There was a request came in after the budget was prepared for an FMB submission to support the self-government negotiations that are under way that the Minister got forward and got FMB approval for. Period. Thank you.
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Thank you. Oral questions. Final supplementary, Mr. Steen .
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Vince Steen
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we are back now to the first question. Why did Mr. Antoine feel it was necessary to put forward this request, without that request being tracked through the committees straight to the finance board, Financial Management Board? What was the reason for the million dollar request? I do not understand. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
There is a confusion here, and perhaps we need to get, again, as long as there is that confusion, we still have to go by one question and three supplementaries rule till we clarify the confusion. I would like to ask the Premier if perhaps he might help the Members to clarify the confusion here. Mr. Morin .
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Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just on process, when a department feels it does need dollars or it has a request into the Financial Management Board this for process alone, Mr. Speaker, on paper A, for example, it will come to Cabinet for approval, then it goes to FMB for approval, then, once Cabinet and FMB approve that, then it goes to committee and then ends up in this House on a financial matter, but that is the process. It would be very unrealistic to take money requests to committees prior to it going through the proper process. So, that is just on process alone. Thank you.
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Thank you. Oral questions. Mr. O'Brien .
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Question 196-13(4): Confirmation Of Amalgamation
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Housing Corporation . Mr. Speaker, we recently passed a motion to stop the amalgamation of Transportation, Housing, Public Works. I would like a confirmation from the Minister as myself and some of the Members are hearing things that are contrary to the motion that was passed. Will the Minister confirm to this House that this amalgamation is not proceeding now and/or in the future. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
The Minister of the NWT Housing Corporation, Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Mr. Speaker, the amalgamation proposal as we presented it, is not going ahead and I made an announcement to that effect last week, Friday. We are, however, obligated in my mind to keep working on finding efficiencies, cost-saving measures in the department that we run. The amalgamation is not going ahead as we had proposed. There are no other departmental amalgamations planned, but, within the departments we will keep working on finding efficiencies and cost savings.
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister tell this House exactly what revisions, and I use that word, that the Minister is looking at regarding these departments? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Again, I would like to remind the Members, the question is a bit hypothetical. Perhaps, can I ask the Member if he could rephrase his question?
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think my question is fairly straightforward. Mr. Speaker, my question, Mr. Speaker, is, what changes, or what revisions, is the Minister presently looking at regarding these departments? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Mr. Speaker, one of the things with the original amalgamation proposal that we said we would do, is reduce the management level and the bureaucracy in the administration by combining them together to one. Because the amalgamation proposal was rejected by original MLAs, that part of the penny savings is lost. The fact is that pretty much all of the departments have been stripped of any fat and inefficiencies that we traditionally had, but it is still important and it is still our obligation to keep looking at the duplications, inefficiencies, et cetera. That is what we are going to keep doing, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you. Oral questions. Again, just to remind the Members to be a bit clearer when you direct your questions. What I heard was vision, not revision. That is why I made the ruling. Mr. O'Brien .
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, can the Minister explain to the House what this new proposal is that his department is working on?
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Mr. Speaker, there is no new proposal that we are currently working on.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question at this time will be directed to the Minister responsible for the liquor legislation, the Minister of Justice , I believe. Mr. Speaker, tabled in this House back in November of 1994 was a liquor law review. I would like to know from the Minister responsible for this area, what has been done with this document? And what with the review? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Thank you, Mr. Roland . The responsibility would be to the Liquor Licensing Board which is Mr. Todd . I will redirect for the Member. Mr. Todd .
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
What I would like, Mr. Speaker, is some clarity from my honourable colleague. Is he referring to the legislative changes that the former government and this government have been working on? If he could just clarify that for me, thank you.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I am referring to the legislative proposal that were like that. I am just wondering what has been done with this document. As I have said in this House before, we have been studied to death, and is this one of those studies that been done and shelved? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Not under my leadership, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, if my memory serves me correct, Mr. Alan Downe who was a well-known researcher in this House, and did a considerable amount of work on behalf of the former Minister, and the ministry in consultations with the communities as to the changes that they felt, the commu