Oral Questions — 17 February 1994 (12th Assembly, 5th Session, pp. 183–213)
1994-02-17, 12th Assembly 5th Session, pp. 183–213
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Feb. 17th, 1994
This is page numbers 183 - 213 of the Hansard for the 12th Assembly, 5th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was chairman .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Appointments To The Workers' Compensation Board
Departmental Posters
Contributions Of Mr. Joe Enook To Education
Rcmp Charged With Impaired Driving Causing Death
Actions Of Us Military Units
Pauktuutit's Annual General Meeting
Diamond Mining In Dogrib Region
Appreciation Of Constituents For Support
Fire Alarm Systems In Communities
Member's Statement Thanking Constituents On Providing Support To Elders
Lack Of Public Involvement In Government Structure
Results Of Election In Wrigley
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Follow-up On Photoflashes In North Baffin
Update On NWT Housing Crisis
Maintenance Of Fire Alarm Systems In NWT Communities
Occupancy Of Victor Sammurtok School
Minister's Response Re Incompetence Of Coral Harbour Nursing Staff
Funding For Family Violence Meetings
Student Financial Assistance For Post-secondary Education
Justice/social Services Joint Response To Family Law Reform
Legislative Action Paper On Family Law
Criteria For Building New Schools
Duration Of Tranquillizer Effect On Polar Bears
Fort Resolution Water Treatment Plant
Drug Used To Tranquillize Polar Bears
Inclusion Of Dall Sheep In Study
Procedure To Increase Caribou Quotas
Site Selection Of Correctional Facilities
Social Services' Response To Family Law Review Recommendations
Written Question 7-12(5): Employment In NWT Mines
Written Question 8-12(5): Purpose Of Madam Premier's Trips
Written Question 9-12(5): Monitoring Of Big Game Hunting Outfitter Quotas
Item 13: Tabling Of Documents
Use Of "premier" As Government Leader Title
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Bill 1: Appropriation Act, No. 2, 1994-95Committee Report 2-12(5): Review Of The 1994-95 Main Estimates
To Adopt Recommendation No. 3
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Mr. Allooloo , Mr. Antoine , Hon. Silas Arngna'naaq , Mr. Arvaluk , Mr. Ballantyne , Hon. Nellie Cournoyea , Mr. Dent , Mr. Gargan , Hon. Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Koe , Mr. Lewis , Hon. Jeannie Marie-Jewell , Hon. Rebecca Mike , Hon. Don Morin , Hon. Richard Nerysoo , Mr. Ng , Mr. Patterson , Hon. John Pollard , Mr. Pudlat , Mr. Pudluk , Hon. John Todd , Mr. Whitford , Mr. Zoe
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
Page 183
The Speaker
Good afternoon. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Keewatin Central , Mr. Todd .
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Minister's Statement 18-12(5): Appointments To The Workers' Compensation Board
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 183
John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I am pleased today to announce that the following members of the Workers' Compensation Board have been reappointed: Mrs. Vivian Stevely of Hay River for a two year term effective February 18, 1994; Mr. Fred Coman of Iqaluit for a three year term effective February 18, 1994; and, Mr. Tom Hoefer of Yellowknife for a one year term effective May 4, 1994.
In addition, it is also my pleasure to announce that I have appointed Joan Mercredi to the Workers' Compensation Board of the Northwest Territories.
Most people are aware of the vacancy left on the WCB when Jim Bourque resigned in January to take a position with the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples. After carefully considering suggestions from a number of sources, I have chosen Ms. Mercredi for her skills, her background and her valued perspectives.
Ms. Mercredi is an aboriginal person, who currently practices law here in Yellowknife. Before becoming a lawyer, she worked many years in the petroleum and telecommunications industries as a front line worker and manager, and she has also been self-employed. She knows first-hand the experiences of the modern workplace and understands the perspectives of the WCB's many stakeholders.
As an aboriginal in the north, Ms. Mercredi grasps native issues and she will ensure that our WCB is more than just a mirror of a southern institution. She is joining Vivian Stevely, increasing the number of women on the board to two and emphasizing our government's commitment to work towards greater representation of women on boards and agencies.
Ms. Mercredi joins a group of individuals who have worked diligently over the past year to improve service and involve their stakeholders through better communication. At the same time, the board continues to strive to provide full funding for current and future liabilities, without reducing workers' benefits.
Ms. Mercredi, chairperson, Jeff Gilmour and other members of the board, still have difficult tasks which they must address over the next several years. The board is considering changing the classification system, introducing a merit rebate/surcharge program and enhancing its safety education programs. There will be many challenges for Ms. Mercredi during her two year term.
I have complete confidence in the board members and in the appeals tribunal commissioners. The board is clearly committed to effectively handling the money employers trust in them and to provide timely and sensitive services and benefits to injured workers. Thank you.
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Minister's Statement 18-12(5): Appointments To The Workers' Compensation Board
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 183
The Speaker
Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Tu Nedhe , Mr. Morin .
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Minister's Statement 19-12(5): Departmental Posters
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 183
Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Department of Public Works and Services has produced two posters to stress to students the importance of staying in school. These posters are being distributed to MLAs, schools and government offices throughout the Northwest Territories. Posters are part of the department's ongoing career awareness efforts.
The posters feature two Public Works and Services outstanding aboriginal employees. They are successful now because they completed their post-secondary education.
Madam Speaker, I wish to add my encouragement to young students in the Northwest Territories to stay in school and to complete their education. I can guarantee students that a good education will go a long way towards helping them to achieve their lifetime goals. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 19-12(5): Departmental Posters
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta , Mr. Nerysoo .
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Minister's Statement 20-12(5): Contributions Of Mr. Joe Enook To Education
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I rise today to pay tribute to Mr. Joe Enook for his many years of dedicated service to education in the Baffin region.
---Applause
Mr. Enook is stepping down this week after nine years as chairperson of the Baffin Divisional Board of Education.
Many of you know that in 1985, the first divisional board of education in the Northwest Territories was formed in the Baffin region. Mr. Enook became its first chairperson and has been chairperson ever since. Previous to that, he was the chairperson of the Baffin Regional Education Society, the structure that preceded the divisional board.
Joe is very proud of the fact that he's a graduate of the Northwest Territories education system. He attended the Gordon Robertson Educational Centre, as it was known then, in Iqaluit.
Joe believes that education is critically important to the young people of Nunavut and he believes strongly that the education system must meet the needs of students. He has worked tirelessly to achieve that.
Two weeks ago, Joe Enook became a grandfather. His little granddaughter, Jennifer, will start school in the first kindergarten class in Nunavut in 1999. In that class, Jennifer will learn Inuktitut and be taught by an Inuk teacher. Her schooling will reflect the commitment and dedication of her grandfather, and others like him, to build an Inuit system of education for the children of Nunavut.
Today, Madam Speaker, I would like to publicly recognize Joe Enook's commitment to education in the Northwest Territories throughout his years as chairperson of Baffin Divisional Board of Education and to thank him for his contribution. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
---Applause
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Minister's Statement 20-12(5): Contributions Of Mr. Joe Enook To Education
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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The Speaker
Thank you. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .
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Rcmp Charged With Impaired Driving Causing Death
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 184
Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Recently, in Prince Edward Island, an RCMP officer was charged and acquitted in a case involving impaired driving causing death. The reason, Madam Speaker, that this officer got off was that he challenged the validity of the breathalyser test administered to him because the test itself was not administered until 90 minutes after the accident. Normally the prosecution goes backwards based on the time of an accident to determine the level of alcohol at the time of the accident.
This RCMP officer's lawyer successfully argued that the beer the officer had in his stomach at that time, was not yet absorbed into his system and that any reading obtained later would be suspect. To make a long story short, Madam Speaker, the judge in this case agreed that there was reasonable doubt as to the accuracy of the breathalyser test and had no choice, but to acquit the officer.
Madam Speaker, as always, I am outraged when people who are in positions of authority and have knowledge of how the system works, manage to get out of being punished to the full extent of the law. I have looked far, Madam Speaker, to see cases of a similar nature in the Northwest Territories. When I think of Diane Doyle being in Fort Smith, as opposed to a federal prison down south, I am reminded again that if a person knows which bell and whistle to pull, a person can and does get out of the full consequence of their actions.
I am bringing this up, Madam Speaker, because I think a very important point has to be made. A person who is in the position of public trust, be it a policeman, a senior civil servant or an elected official, these people have to be able to stand up to the full responsibility of their inappropriate actions and be prepared to suffer the consequences.
Madam Speaker, no one can tell me that the RCMP officer who killed the 15 year old boy in Prince Edward Island did not know that he would be impaired after drinking five beer. No one can tell me that Diane Doyle...
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The Speaker
Excuse me, Mr. Gargan . Your allotted time has lapsed. The honourable Member for Deh Cho .
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Madam Speaker, I request unanimous consent to continue my statement.
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The Speaker
The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Gargan .
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Rcmp Charged With Impaired Driving Causing Death
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker and honourable Members. No one can tell me, Madam Speaker, that Diane Doyle did not realize that her system...(inaudible)...was wrong. When you occupy a position in the public trust, your actions must be above reproach. Madam Speaker, the code of conduct we recently adopted goes some way to addressing this concern. We must be careful not to betray the trust the public has placed in us as MLAs. Mahsi cho, Madam Speaker.
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The Speaker
Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Amittuq , Mr. Allooloo .
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Actions Of Us Military Units
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Further to my comments the other day on the United States military activity in the north Baffin from 1956 to 1958, I thought I would make a statement today to clarify the situation for Members.
What we have managed to find out has raised more questions than have been answered. We do know that the experiments involved dropping a substance from an airplane and taking pictures of this using a flash mechanism powerful enough to turn the winter nights into day. We know, Madam Speaker, that a lot of people in the region developed painful blisters and boils upon their skin. I myself remember not being able to walk for three months due to pain associated with a skin condition. We do know that a lot of seemingly healthy people died shortly after we observed this phenomenon.
Madam Speaker, I can remember myself, and the honourable Member for High Arctic , giving interviews on this matter in the spring of 1987 to Peter Downing from the CBC Midday show. This interview never made it to air. The reason given was that the tape was lost on the way to the airport from Mr. Pudluk 's office. I was later told that CBC Television was not going to air this interview, even if they had it.
As a result of this, CBC Yellowknife got interested in the story and I gave another interview for the radio. This interview aired once at 6:30 in the morning. Then I asked why it wasn't aired on the 7:30 and 8:30 newscasts. I was told by the regional manager, at the time, they could not air the interview.
Madam Speaker, I have been told by former MPs and friends that I had at the federal Cabinet that the information does exist outlining what happened in the north Baffin in the late 1950s. But that information is a matter of national security. What we don't know, Madam Speaker, is what the substance was the United States Air Force was photographing as it descended to the ground. Given the recent developments in the United States, that uncovered citizens who were...
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Actions Of Us Military Units
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The Speaker
Mr. Allooloo , your time has lapsed. Mr. Allooloo .
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
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The Speaker
The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Please proceed, Mr. Allooloo .
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Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
Thank you, Madam Speaker and colleagues. Given the recent developments in the United States that uncovered citizens who were exposed to radiation as part of the ongoing experiment, I offer the suggestion that the residents of north Baffin were the victims of cold war experiments. Madam Speaker, this matter must be addressed. We must find out what happened in the north Baffin over 30 years ago for the peace of mind of my constituents. I will be pursuing this matter in question period. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Iqaluit , Mr. Patterson .
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Pauktuutit's Annual General Meeting
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise with pleasure to inform Members of a very important event taking place in my constituency next week, February 22 to 24, the annual general meeting of Pauktuutit, the Inuit Women's Association. There will be a full agenda for the AGM. One workshop will feature economic development opportunities for women focusing on arts and crafts, textiles and traditional clothing. I am told there will also be serious discussion of Pauktuutit's strong concern that there is, at present, no legislation in place to provide copyright protection for traditional Inuit designs. This may well be an area in which recommendations may come forward to this Assembly.
The meeting will also include in-depth consideration of Pauktuutit projects, especially social issues and family law concerns, and will include healing sessions. I will be presenting copies of our Legislature's recent declaration on zero tolerance of family violence.
As a special event this year, in celebration of their tenth anniversary, Pauktuutit will be holding a fabulous fashion show featuring traditional Inuit clothing on the last evening of their meeting. I am told there is a great deal of interest in this meeting. In addition to the 43 voting delegates, about 250 people are expected. Many women are making arrangements to travel at their own expense to attend the meeting. I hear that charters are even being organized from Inoucdjouac and Ivujivik in northern Quebec. A hard working local volunteer committee has lined up activities every evening.
Madam Speaker, I have been invited by Pauktuutit president, Martha Flaherty, to officially welcome delegates to the meeting on behalf of the people of Iqaluit and to participate in some of the workshops. I am very much looking forward to attending this event in Iqaluit. This is to inform you and Members that I will, therefore, be absent from this House next week. I will give you a full report on this important event. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Pauktuutit's Annual General Meeting
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The Speaker
Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife North , Mr. Ballantyne .
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Diamond Mining In Dogrib Region
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Michael Ballantyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to speak about mining in general, diamonds, specifically, and the opportunities they afford the Northwest Territories, the Dogrib region and my community of Yellowknife.
I strongly support the proactive and aggressive approach taken by the Minister of Energy, Mines and Petroleum Resources , Mr. Todd . Mr. Todd has put the mining accord on the front burner. He is forming a coalition from the effected regions, of the private sector, aboriginal groups, government and the mining industry. This opportunity will only come once. If we don't seize it, it will be gone forever.
If the economics are there, mines will be built. Some people may not like that, but that is a fact of life. This is a big play and either we are in on it or it is going to happen without us. There are very legitimate concerns that have been expressed by Members in this House about the environment, about broken promises from the past, about how it will effect land claims and how it will effect the treaties. I, for one, think those issues are very serious and have to be dealt with. But it still comes down to some hard and cold realities.
Either we work with the industry to maximize opportunities for jobs and business or we are left out in the cold. We will watch airplanes carrying our diamonds, our jobs and our business opportunities flying at 30,000 feet overhead.
If we want to lessen our dependence on Ottawa, we have to take advantage of these opportunities. There is no doubt in my mind that as the federal government tries to wrestle down their deficit, no matter what the Minister of Finance does -- and he is doing a very good job -- we are going to be hit. I think we have to recognize that is a big reality.
I want to take this opportunity to thank the government, to thank Mr. Todd for the support and the cooperation they've given to the Yellowknife business community. The Yellowknife mining community, as many of you may not know, have been involved in this diamond play for many, many years. However, the magnitude and the speed at which this play is developed has been overwhelming. I think it's been difficult for the government, and definitely difficult for the business community here in Yellowknife to gear up for it.
Madam Speaker, could I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement?
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Diamond Mining In Dogrib Region
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Thank you. The honourable Member is seeking unanimous consent to continue with his Member's statement. Are there any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Ballantyne , continue.
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Diamond Mining In Dogrib Region
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Michael Ballantyne
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yellowknife is gearing up, the NWT Chamber of Mines, the Yellowknife Chamber of Commerce and the city MLAs have been working through the Yellowknife economic development committee for a number of months now. Mr. Todd has met with Yellowknife business people. Our community is coming together. Mr. Todd has set up a committee consisting of the mining industry, Yellowknife MLAs, Mr. Ng , Mr. Zoe and the private sector. The message has been strong and clear. We can't wait until we finalize our constitution. We can't wait until division.
If we wait until we figure out our internal differences there will be nothing left for any of us to control. I think we've had enough doom and gloom. We could have the opportunity of a lifetime. Every country in the world, right now, is looking at the NWT with envy and aspirations to be in our situation. Wars have been fought over mines of this magnitude. I fully agree with Mr. Todd that if we take some risk we can win big, if we do nothing, we lose and we lose and we lose. Thank you very much.
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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Aivilik , Mr. Arvaluk .
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Appreciation Of Constituents For Support
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James Arvaluk
Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. It's good to be back.
---Applause
The past year has been a long and stressful one due to an investigation that you're all aware of which I will not dwell on. Now that it's over, I would like to assure this House and my constituents that I will continue working hard in fulfilling my obligations as a Member of the Legislative Assembly, and be active in the development and human development of the Northwest Territories.
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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .
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Fire Alarm Systems In Communities
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Our municipalities have always had the need for adequate fire alarm systems. These systems are critical in minimizing the response time for our fire fighters. Some communities currently utilize a pull box system, a paging system accessed through telephones or a combination of both. There may be other systems in use which I am not aware of.
In these communities there are problems with both systems. Communities using the pull box system have encountered some pull boxes being unusable as a result of breakdowns which have proven to be difficult or expensive to repair. The problems with the pager systems have primarily resulted from the difficulties in activating the system, as an individual must have access to a telephone. As we all know, not all our residents have telephones. There have also been instances in which fire fighters have misplaced or forgotten to carry their pagers.
Madam Speaker, in a majority of our communities, the most recent problem has been in keeping up with the growth of new subdivisions. In particular, the installation of new sirens where existing ones are ineffective and inaudible due to their location. The sirens are critical in the fire alarm system due to many fire fighters and fire fighting support staff such as water truck drivers, RCMP and medical personnel, et cetera, not having pagers.
Madam Speaker, our government must place a priority on evaluating, upgrading or repairing all fire alarm systems in the NWT in order to ensure the effectiveness of these systems to protect the safety of the residents in our communities. Mahsi cho.
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Fire Alarm Systems In Communities
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 186
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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Sahtu , Mr. Kakfwi .
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Member's Statement Thanking Constituents On Providing Support To Elders
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 186
Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Madam Speaker, I have been asked by some of the people from Fort Good Hope -- mostly the old people, the elders of the community -- to mention three
people they wanted to have recognized in some form. So I have chosen to mention them in this House.
It's a recognition for the extremely hard work, long hours that three individuals put in during the long, cold spell that many of us -- especially people in the smaller communities -- endured, particularly in the month of January when we had a few weeks of minus 40 degree weather.
These three individuals: George Voudrack, Francis Erutse, and Alfred Masuzumi, were three people who made an extraordinary effort to check on all the old people of Good Hope and other people who didn't have the capacity to make sure they had enough wood to make it through this cold spell. I think many people were not prepared for it.
These three individuals pushed themselves to the limit every day, from morning until quite late at night, with their machines and their equipment to make sure that everybody had enough wood to survive. I think, very often, some of us forget living in a place like Yellowknife that there are still people who struggle daily just to make sure they have enough food and wood to provide for themselves. So for that reason I wanted to make special mention of them, at the request of many people from Good Hope. Thank you.
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Page 187
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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre , Mr. Lewis .
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Lack Of Public Involvement In Government Structure
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 187
Brian Lewis
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I was disappointed when we met at our planning committee in Cambridge Bay that we didn't discuss an issue on our order paper about the changes we could possibly make in our style of government. We keep on talking about constitutional development and yet the government we have is not the people's government, it's a government, in fact, that's figured out by 24 people. And there's been no real public debate about the form of consensus we have. It's something we decide among ourselves. This is the way we're going to do it. It seems to me that we're turning a blind eye towards the evolution of our consensus type of system so it can work better than it is.
There has been a proposal made by several people, which we no longer seem to want to discuss, about strengthening the form of government by choosing our Government Leader through a public vote throughout the territories. This could result in a more cohesive Cabinet because along with that election of a Government Leader there would be the power of a leader to choose her own Cabinet. It would be a more coherent government policy. The government would be accountable to the people, not just to the 24 of us. And it would give the leader a bit more power.
I'm not advocating this. All I'm saying, Madam Speaker, is that we seem not to want to discuss it. We want to discuss all these huge issues, yet our government and the way it's evolving we don't want to talk about. We just want to keep it within our walls so there's no public debate. Perhaps this forum could be used for the public to discuss how we should evolve, rather than to wait for things to happen. Thank you very much.
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Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 187
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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. The honourable Member for Nahendeh , Mr. Antoine .
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Results Of Election In Wrigley
Item 3: Members' Statements
Page 187
Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Mahsi, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, on Tuesday, February 15, there was an election in Wrigley. This is one of the communities in my constituency of Nahendeh. A new chief and band council were elected. I would like to congratulate Mr. Gabe Hardisty, as the elected chief. Mr. Hardisty is no stranger to this position, since he has been the chief before. The other new band council members are Stella Pellisey, Mike Canadien, Martha Drake, Gilbert Antoine, Tim Lennie, who was the former chief, and there is a position that still has to be finalized. Mr. Hardisty replaces Mr. Tim Lennie as the chief.
I want to recognize the leadership of Mr. Lennie. I believe he has shown great leadership to help the community benefit substantially. I would like to thank Mr. Lennie and the members of his council for their support and cooperation to provide programs and services to the people of Wrigley.
I am sure that Chief Hardisty and the new band council will be consistent and provide equal support to their people in the community. It is important that this House, and the government, recognize and support community governments, such as the band council in Wrigley. It is a community government, after all. In respect to this House, Madam Speaker, I will be absent from this House tomorrow to attend a community gathering in Wrigley in recognition of the new chief and council as well as thanking the chief and council from the past. Mahsi cho.
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Item 3: Members' Statements
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Thank you. Item 3, Members' statements. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Minister of Social Services and Personnel, Ms. Mike .
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Further Return To Question 30-12(5): Salaries And Benefits For Hay River Treatment Centre Staff
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 187
Rebecca Mike
Baffin Central
(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have a response to a question asked by Mr. Gargan concerning the salaries and wages of the Hay River Treatment Centre.
On February 9, 1994, Mr. Gargan asked for information about salaries paid out in the treatment centres. The salary scale is quite lengthy and does not lend itself to a verbal response. therefore, I have provided the Member with a separate list of salaries for different levels of staff in treatment centres. The salary varies depending on the training and the years of experience of the staff. The salaries also take into account the recent increase of $2,500 per year.
In addition to the salaries, the benefits provided to treatment centre staff include: -A housing allowance of $5,400 per year.
-A payment equal to 7.5 per cent of the base salary to cover the cost of employer's share of benefits and workers' compensation.
-A settlement allowance equivalent to that paid to government employees in the community. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Page 188
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Thank you. Item 4, returns to oral questions. Item 5, oral questions. Mr. Allooloo .
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Question 118-12(5): Follow-up On Photoflashes In North Baffin
Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Titus Allooloo
Amittuq
I would like to ask a question to the Premier about my Member's statement. Hazel O'Leary, the United States Secretary of Energy has promised to probe the radiation wrong-doings. Eight other US government departments and agencies have promised to follow suit. Madam Speaker, given this potential for new access to information, is this government prepared to follow up with our federal government to find out exactly what was dropped on the residents of north Baffin from 1956 to 1958? Thank you.
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Thank you. Madam Premier .
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Nellie Cournoyea
Nunakput
Madam Speaker, when the issue was first brought up a few days ago, I immediately looked into what avenues we could expedite and research what happened at that time. The direction has been put out to the office in Ottawa to quickly consolidate what is in our knowledge now. As well, the Members of the Legislative Assembly and any other people who have had some experience in that area will be contacted, so we can consolidate at least the information we have. We will move as quickly as possible to try to finalize some of the questions that have been long-outstanding to the residents who were affected by that particular event. Thank you.
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
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Question 119-12(5): Update On NWT Housing Crisis
Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Dennis Patterson
Iqaluit
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I believe the Minister responsible for Housing has just been away to attend meetings with the federal Minister about the housing crisis. I wonder if there is any news to report to this House? Thank you.
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
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Thank you. Minister of the Housing Corporation , Mr. Morin .
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Page 188
Don Morin
Tu Nedhe
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I wasn't meeting with the Minister of Housing . I went to Cambridge Bay to meet with the KIA. I have no news to report. Thank you.
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Page 188
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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Kitikmeot , Mr. Ng .
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Question 120-12(5): Maintenance Of Fire Alarm Systems In NWT Communities
Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs and it relates to the fire alarm systems. I would like to know if it is the department's responsibility to maintain these systems in NWT communities? Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
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Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Arngna'naaq .
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I believe it is the responsibility of the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs to maintain fire alarm systems in the Northwest Territories.
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Supplementary, Mr. Ng .
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to ask the Minister how often the department undertakes reviews of the fire alarm systems for adequacy and effectiveness to identify upgrading requirements as a result of community growth? Thank you.
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Thank you. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Arngna'naaq .
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Madam Speaker, I don't know if it is the department's responsibility to make sure that the equipment is inspected every year. I believe that is the Department of Safety and Public Services. From what I understand, it is the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs' responsibility to maintain. But, for the inspections...(Microphone turned off)...how well the equipment is operating is the Department of Safety and Public Services. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 188
Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
I would like to ask the Minister then, if there are problems identified in fire alarm systems in communities, would it be his department's responsibility to rectify those problems? Thank you.
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Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs, Mr. Arngna'naaq
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Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I believe it is my department's responsibility. If there is a particular case the Member is alluding to, I would most certainly like to find out and would thank you for raising any problems they may be having. Thank you.
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Page 189
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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Aivilik , Mr. Arvaluk .
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Question 121-12(5): Occupancy Of Victor Sammurtok School
Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 189
James Arvaluk
Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I have to apologize, I cannot stand up straight right now. My question is directed to the Minister of Education . In the last session, the Minister assured me that he would investigate on the difference between Chesterfield Inlet education council and the Keewatin Divisional Board of Education on the occupancy percentage of the Victor Sammurtok School. Has he done that yet, Madam Speaker?
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Page 189
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Thank you. Minister of Education , Mr. Nerysoo .
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. We have raised the issue. However, I have not received the analysis yet of the differences. Thank you.
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James Arvaluk
Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. When does he expect to receive the analysis?
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will get on the matter immediately and see if I can report back to the honourable Member about the matter he raises.
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Question 122-12(5): Minister's Response Re Incompetence Of Coral Harbour Nursing Staff
Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 189
James Arvaluk
Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Health . The hamlet of Coral Harbour wrote a letter to the Minister about three weeks ago, regarding the attitude and incompetence of the nursing staff in Coral Harbour. Has he received and responded to that letter? Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Thank you. Minister of Health , Mr. Pollard .
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John Pollard
Hay River
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, when complaints come in with regard to Health, they are ultimately the responsibility of the boards. That complaint has been passed on to the health board and we will monitor the situation and watch their answers. Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Social Services . Madam Speaker, in February of 1991, the federal Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs put a budget of $36 million together to go to native communities for family violence initiatives. It has been four years now since the money has been into operation, has the government submitted a budget for part of the $36 million?
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Rebecca Mike
Baffin Central
(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will take that as notice and will inform the Member as soon as I get the information. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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James Arvaluk
Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Education . The community education council of Coral Harbour sent me a copy of a letter they had received from Mr. Ernie Comerford, manager of student services. The students just received this letter a few days ago, but the letter was written December 24, Christmas eve.
This letter stated, "Please be advised that students who have applied for student financial assistance for the courses will not be receiving support as the course has not been accepted as post-secondary education." Arctic College has contracted an arts professor from the University of Calgary. The course has been recognized as a first year university course. How was it determined that this was not a post-secondary course? Thank you.
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am not totally aware of the specifics. But the indication to me is that the program that the honourable Member is referring to is not certifiable. In other words, there will be no certificate that is issued once this particular program is complete. One of the
requirements we have with regard to student financial assistance is any provision of that financial support is based on the fact that the resulting educational program is to be certified and the individuals certified. So, I believe that was the basis on which the decision was made with regard to student financial assistance.
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James Arvaluk
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Thank you, Madam Speaker. I don't know who is right then because I am told that there will be a certificate issued for that ten-month course. Will the Minister find out who is right and act accordingly?
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yes, I will take note of the honourable Member's suggestion and as soon as I can resolve this matter, I will report back either way, so he is aware of the circumstances, conditions and reasons why the department has made the decision it has.
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James Arvaluk
Aivilik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Premier stated earlier this year that there is a need for more employment and self-sufficiency amongst the individuals of the NWT. Will the Minister of Education try to follow the policy of the Government Leader in trying to provide student financial assistance. They are taking an arts course and working to improve the quality of their arts and crafts work so they will be more self-sufficient. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I just want to indicate to the honourable Member, in his absence I did indicate to the Members in this House that this government and myself, as Minister leading the initiative, are trying to ensure and negotiate with the federal government a utilization of programs that are available to us that will allow this government, hopefully in future, to provide the kind of financial assistance to those students that the honourable Member has made me aware of. We are seriously taking the issue to heart.
We will respond, through our initiatives, to the very issues the honourable Member has raised with us, on a more permanent basis. In fact, on a pilot project basis if that is possible.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Justice . Recently, Madam Speaker, I received a letter from the Minister of Justice , along with a document on family law reform. During the special committee hearings last year we were told that we could expect a joint response from both Social Services and the Department of Justice to the family law review. Members of the special committee were very disappointed that we didn't get that in this House in the fall session as originally planned, but we had been told that we could still expect legislative proposals by March 31 of 1994.
I was just wondering if the Minister could advise whether as having now received this paper -- Family Law Reform -- from the Department of Justice, does this mean we can no longer expect a joint response from Justice and Social Services?
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Madam Speaker, this business with the family law reform, which you know had recommendations within the report that fall clearly within the mandate of the Department of Social Services, and some that fell to the Department of Justice. We have some difficulties in trying to come up with a cohesive report because both departments were writing their own respective responses to that.
What we will try to do is in the end, after we have responses coming back from the public, from the different agencies and organizations with regard to the approach you were suggesting, the recommendations we're making within the Department of Justice that I suspect Social Services will do the same thing. Following that, there will be a lead department, probably Social Services, that will be trying to write a more cohesive response for consideration by the Legislative Assembly, once we come up with concrete legislative proposals. Thank you.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Supplementary, Madam Speaker, to the same Minister. Given the overlap in the recommendations between Justice and Social Services to the recommendations from the family law review, the special committee was quite impressed that both departments were working together to try to come up with a joint response. I was a little surprised now to hear the Minister say that it looks like -- although he didn't answer clearly -- it sounds like the two departments are taking a completely separate approach to this.
In the fall, the special committee met with the combined group from both Social Services and Justice, and everything seemed to be on track. Perhaps the Minister could provide a little more detail as to when the process fell apart and why this House didn't hear about it before .
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Thank you, Mr. Dent . You did ask two questions within your supplementary, and you are only allowed one supplementary. Minister of Justice , Mr. Kakfwi .
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Madam Speaker, it's kind of like talking about what happens in practice, I guess. My response was intended to reflect the fact that we have two departments that are trying to provide responses to one report. And that for some of us internally we felt that having two different sets of writers writing responses created some difficulties, but that's sort of an internal perception. If externally, there is no perception of that I'm grateful for that. Regardless, internally we thought there should be one lead department putting it together instead of working side by side. So that was more a comment of our internal workings and my own perception as a Minister.
I think, and I share the view, that the work we've done within the Department of Justice, the work that was done by the Department of Social Services is very good work. We're looking forward to the next round of consultation and the responses we get to the kind of proposals we've made and are circulating them now to the MLAs and the different organizations so we can sit down and actually draft out some concrete actions to take. Thank you.
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Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Madam Speaker. The Minister touched on some information that I'm interested in getting a little more detail on. That is, specifically, could he advise the House how widely has this discussion paper been distributed now? For instance, could he list some of the groups to which it has been sent?
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Stephen Kakfwi
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Madam Speaker, the family law reform was set up with some agencies and groups. It's primarily with the same groups that we've initiated contact. So I think it's with all the native organizations, the representatives of the Status of Women, the Native Women's, Pauktuutit, amongst others that we've maintained contact with and to whom we've sent our recent response paper back. Thank you.
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Supplementary, Madam Speaker. I think the Minister may wish to confirm some of the information. I have been told today that Pauktuutit has not yet received a copy of
this discussion paper, for instance. I believe he just mentioned Pauktuutit in his response to me.
Madam Speaker, could the Minister advise when we can expect to see a legislative action paper or proposed revised legislation that comes from this discussion paper presented to this House?
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Madam Speaker, I think I'm getting ahead of myself here. The paper hasn't been sent out but it will be sent out shortly to the organizations that I've mentioned. That might explain why Pauktuutit hasn't received it yet. To be certain, I can't say for certain that they have been mailed. We can check on that. It's not anyone's intention to leave any particular group out.
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Madam Speaker, I have a new question to the Minister of Justice . Could the Minister of Justice tell this House when we might expect to see a legislative action paper or proposed new legislation as a result of the family law review discussion paper, which has been distributed to MLAs?
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Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I am sorry, I missed the question.
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Charles Dent
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Thank you, Madam Speaker. I should be good at it, this will be the third time. Could the Minister of Justice please advise this House when we can expect to see either a legislative action paper or proposed new legislation as a result of this family law reform discussion paper which has been distributed to Members?
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Madam Speaker, I believe the intent is to have draft legislation available as early as this fall, following responses we get from MLAs and groups. We will wait for input before we get into drafting the draft legislation for consideration by this House. Thank you.
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Charles Dent
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Thank you, Madam Speaker. Supplementary to the same Minister. Could the Minister advise whether or not the department will be undertaking a process to ensure that there is some public discussion? We know that the department has sent out, or is planning to send out, copies. Will they also be running workshops or will there be some form of generating public discussion on this issue?
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Stephen Kakfwi
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Madam Speaker, it is my expectation that some of the responses we get will say that we proceed with the suggestions we are making. It will range to the other end of the spectrum with some people saying we should consult everyone in the Northwest Territories before we proceed with any particular action plan. So somewhere in the middle, considering the money and time we have to meet some of the requests, we will settle on the middle of the road approach to fulfilling some of the recommendations and the responses we have laid out in our plan. Thank you.
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Question 127-12(5): Criteria For Building New Schools
Item 5: Oral Questions
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is for the Minister responsible for Education, Culture and Employment . This is with regard to building new schools and the criteria used to design new schools. I would like the Minister to tell the House if the previous SCOF recommendations from last year and this fall have been followed? We recommended that your department change the criteria of the new schools to be built this year. We all know we have been approving additional funds for additions to new schools, which have been recently built. The criteria was a problem.
We passed a motion in the House to see if your department could change the criteria. Has your department done anything about changing the criteria for the size of schools. Mahsi.
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. We have developed the new draft criteria and standards for schools for the Northwest Territories. About two weeks ago, we were at a stage where we were reviewing them again. They remain draft until Cabinet has seen them and approved them. We have not taken them to that stage. There are still some changes that need to take place. But I will be bringing those
new standards and criteria to Cabinet for their approval within the next month.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would like to thank the Minister for his reply. It looks positive. Will this criteria be in place so the new schools that are being built this coming fiscal year will have this new criteria to be incorporated into the design? Mahsi.
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is my hope that it will be in place for the schools. We are certainly going to consider using the draft criteria for schools, even though we have completed the standards and criteria document. It is our consideration that we will be using them as a basis before construction of new schools.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
So based on that reply, Madam Speaker, would it be all right to tell the people in the communities, when they have approval to have new schools built, they will be getting a larger school than originally intended for them this coming year? Is it fair to say that?
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I would be a lot more careful than that. To be honest with you, Madam Speaker, and Members of this House, I think it would be premature to make the suggestion to the community that that is going to happen. I think the situation with our standards and criteria requires the support of my Cabinet colleagues before we proceed to give the impression to communities that that is, in fact, what is going to happen.
There are some basic requirements we must meet and we will meet those needs with a view that, as has been pointed out to us on a number of occasions, where kindergarten classes are not as big as they should be and we are going to consider those as part of the design of new schools without the major changes. But it still requires the support overall because it is very substantive. We are going to deal with issues like child care programs in high schools and those decisions require the support of my colleagues.
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Jim Antoine
Nahendeh
Mahsi, Madam Speaker. The people in your department work with communities to help design schools. I know they go into communities and meet with them to try to design the type of schools they are going to build in the community. It is based on the old criteria. Are your people going into communities and instructing the host communities that they might be changing the criteria, and once the criteria has been changed, perhaps some of the spaces in the schools are larger than originally planned? Thank you.
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Richard Nerysoo
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is certainly our intention to be more open in the way in which we are doing the planning for the schools. The honourable Member and Members in this House have pointed out to us the weaknesses of the existing standards and criteria. As such, we will review with each community their requirements and the circumstances for those requirements and add them as part of the project, so we don't have to go back next year to build an addition to what we perceive as a need for next year.
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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for High Arctic , Mr. Pudluk .
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Question 128-12(5): Duration Of Tranquillizer Effect On Polar Bears
Item 5: Oral Questions
Page 193
Ludy Pudluk
High Arctic
(Translation) Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is directed to the wildlife Minister. For more than one year, near the community of Resolute Bay there has been a study on polar bears. The polar bears are tranquillized while they do their tagging. This has been an ongoing survey for quite some time now. My question is how long will this tranquillizer be in effect once it is put into the polar bear? I wonder if the people who were doing the study have given a report to the Minister of wildlife with regard to how long the tranquillizer will be in effect after it is put into the polar bear? Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Thank you. Minister of Renewable Resources , Mr. Kakfwi .
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Madam Speaker, the Department of Renewable Resources does some rather fascinating areas of research that are given a lot of credence internationally. Polar bear research is one of them. Having said that, it is an area that I haven't been briefed on in detail, but I have asked the department if they would prepare specific briefings on the research we do on polar bears, caribou, Barrenland Grizzly, Mountain Grizzly, Dall Sheep, muskox and other areas of research that are specific to our jurisdiction, which may be of interest to individual Members.
So, in a week or so, we will be contacting individual MLAs and asking them if they would be prepared to spend an hour or so being briefed on different areas of research we have. Polar bear research was going to be one of the first ones, since it is an area that has received extensive questioning in previous sessions of the Legislative Assembly.
I have no technical knowledge of the kind of tranquillizers that are used to put down bears so they can be handled by researchers. But we can get the department to write the details of that response to the Member and it will be provided. Thank you.
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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Deh Cho , Mr. Gargan .
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker. My question is to the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs. It is with regard to something broadcast on CBC on Fort Resolution. On both occasions, at 12:30, the mayor in Fort Resolution was expressing a concern over the water treatment plant and the concern has been expressed over the radio to get the government's attention, but also the public's attention. Is the Minister aware of the situation, since no one seems to be too concerned about the situation in Fort Resolution.
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Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, I didn't catch the full question. I would ask his indulgence to ask the question again.
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Thank you. Mr. Gargan , can we ask you to put your question to Mr. Arngna'naaq again?
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Perhaps I could wait for the answer tomorrow, once the Minister reviews the Hansard on what I said.
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Mr. Gargan , the Minister didn't hear all of your question and he has asked you to repeat your initial question. He did not take your question as notice and it is not the responsibility of the chair to interpret your question and pose it to the Minister. So can you repeat your question for the Minister?
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Question 129-12(5): Fort Resolution Water Treatment Plant
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I will then repeat my question, if I can, as concisely as I did the first time. My concern was that this morning at 8:30 and again at 12:30, there was a CBC newscast regarding Fort Resolution, in which the residents have to boil their water and they cannot drink their water because of the amount of chlorine that is mixed with the water. The location of the water treatment plant is in the wrong place and the water intake pipes are also in an area where garbage and sewage is draining into it in the spring run-offs. There was a concern expressed.
But there was also a concern expressed that officials in MACA are not doing anything to address this situation. So, since it was a public concern expressed by the residents, I believe it requires some public attention. I just asked the Minister of MACA whether or not he is aware of this situation and what he plans to do about it.
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Silas Arngna'naaq
Kivallivik
Thank you, Madam Speaker. I apologize to the Member, I wasn't paying attention the first time he asked his question. I would also like to thank the Member for bringing this up. Water is something that is very important to our people in the Northwest Territories. At this point, I am not aware of the problem, but I will have the department investigate the problem and get back to the Member. Thank you, Madam Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
Deh Cho
Thank you, Madam Speaker. Would the Minister of MACA also involve DPW in that investigation?
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Silas Arngna'naaq
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Thank you, Madam Speaker. Yes.
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Thank you. Item 5, oral questions. The honourable Member for Amittuq , Mr. Allooloo .
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